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Broadcasting across the nation from the East Coast to the West, keeping you up to date on technology while enjoying a little whiskey on the side with leading edge topics, along with special guests, to navigate technology in a segmented, stylized radio program.
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The information that will make you go, hmm.
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Pull up a seat, raise a glass with our hosts as we spend the next hour talking about technology for the common person.
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Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum.
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Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum, the show that makes you go, hmm, Technology News of the Week, the show for the everyday person talking about technology, broadcasting across the nation with insightful segments on subjects weeks ahead of the mainstream media.
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We welcome our radio audience of 30 plus million listeners to an hour of insightful technology news.
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I'm Nathan Mum.
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It's me, Mario.
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Your Luigi.
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Your host and technologist with over 35 years of technology expertise.
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Alrighty! I'm wearing a green hat.
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So we are in our new radio segment.
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Now we're friends from different backgrounds.
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We talk about that every day.
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But we bring the best technology show possible each week for our family and listeners and fans to enjoy.
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We're glad to have Peyton, our producer at the control panel today.
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Welcome everyone.
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Let's start today's show.
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Now on today's show.
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All right, today on the show we have our Halloween episode where we have our spooky and scary technology items from Nick Espinosa, Security Fanatics, is gonna be here.
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He is our Halloween guest.
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He has been our only guest on Halloween.
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Every year we bring him back to talk about the scary stories.
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He's got the scariest stuff.
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Yeah, he this is the best episode.
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Normally our most watched episode throughout the year.
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Man, of course.
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And you think it's because we dress up in stupid hats.
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I do think so.
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It's the Mario.
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We're the Mario Brothers.
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We're the plumbers.
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We're the plumbers.
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Look at that.
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I'm not a plumber.
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You're not a plumber?
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Nope.
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You know what?
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Not a skinny Italian guy.
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Not a skinny.
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Well, I don't think the original Mario Brothers were that skinny.
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I think they were a little I think they were a little bit uh big boned, right?
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Okay.
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Okay.
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All right, well keep living that dream.
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All right.
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On the show, we have, of course, our standard features also, including this week in technology, technology, fail of the week, impossible, and ate the nuggets, and of course our pick of the day, whiskey tastings to see if our pick gets zero one or two thumbs up by the end of the show.
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But now it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology.
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Here are our top technology stories of the week.
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All right, imagine opening your laptop, pasting in a DNA sequence, and all of a sudden asking a simple question What does this mutation do?
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Or what does this section of genetic code do?
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Carbon X, an AI model designed to let researchers literally chat with DNA using plain English has been released.
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Let's go to Jennifer Merrick for more on this story.
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Thanks, Nathan.
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Developed by Hugging Face, the model allows researchers to paste in genetic code and ask questions in plain English, helping identify mutations, analyze genetic sequences, and predict whether changes in DNA could be harmful.
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What makes Carbon X especially significant is that it can run directly on a researcher's own laptop rather than a cloud service, allowing sensitive genetic research to stay
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private.
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The company stresses that Carbon X cannot sequence DNA itself, and, like other AI systems, can still make mistakes or generate inaccurate results.
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But the release marks another major step in AI's expansion from understanding human language to understanding the code of life itself.
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I am sure you have more information.
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So let's send it back to the studio.
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Oh moy! All right, thanks, Jennifer.
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Are you gonna do that all day?
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It's me Mario.
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Supporters say it could accelerate breakthroughs in medicine and disease research, but it also raises large concerns about the future of AIs as a machine, making better understanding of our genetic instructions that make life possible.
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Scientists and policy makers will be faced with new questions regarding privacy, security, and how far these tools should be allowed to go.
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What makes Carbon X significant is that it lowers the barrier to understanding DNA.
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Instead of the needing specialized software and years of training to interpret some genetic data, researchers can now just ask questions in plain English and get answers in a second.
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Oh I could hold AI.
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Of course, scientists caution the model could make mistakes or hallucinate information and miss important details, which means human experts remain essential to the process.
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Another concern is whether by simply asking AI questions people are still doing research or merely directing or orchestrating work done on a computer.
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This is becoming one of the biggest questions about AI use.
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Is the human just an overseer or an active participant?
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Nope.
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It's the guy that's training you for your replacement.
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Is that what it is?
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That's right.
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Yeah, well, whether it becomes a breakthrough research tool or simply the first step towards something bigger, Carbon X represents a new milestone for artificial intelligence, moving beyond understanding human language and then beginning to understand the biological language that makes us human.
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There you go.
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There you go.
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You're not scared about this, are you, Mike?
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Yeah, I'm not a genetic researcher, so I'm I'm probably not going to be sitting around my house going, Hey, uh AI, uh create a genetically modified spider that will make me into a superhero.
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You probably
you're not going to ask for that directly.
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You don't think it'll do that?
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But the interesting thing is you can now do it offline.
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So what this means is researchers can take it on their laptop, not have any responsibility or anything on the back end of reporting into a master system, and they could do lots of this um discovery on their own time.
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That's true.
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So it's funny that you would bring up that part instead of the part where they will not be online using sensitive material that could be compromised easily by hackers.
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Okay.
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I guess that's a good I you know what?
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I guess that's a positive point about this, right?
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Because at least if you have it offline, but hey, you don't have to worry about the hackers getting it.
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AI is going to control our lives in every aspect anyway, so we might as well do it on our own computers.
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Well, I'm sure none of this will be used for anything other than just research and development, all being done in the proper requirements.
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Everybody is responsible.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Well, there you go.
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That that that's a good story to start off our Halloween episode.
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Start that off.
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All right, well, yeah, story number two, what do we got?
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Well, you remember it was last week or the week before where we talked about how McDonald's was using AI to track and randomly do pricing?
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I do remember that about two weeks ago, yeah.
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Yeah, well.
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Guess what?
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What's that?
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McDonald's is now in a federal lawsuit and could become one of the biggest test yets of artificial intelligence pricing.
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Okay, tell me more.
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Uh the lawsuit claims that McDonald's operated a centralized AI-powered pricing system that collected sales and pricing data from nearly 14,000 U.S.
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restaurants.
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According to the complaint, the system then analyzed millions of daily transactions and generated pricing recommendations based on customer demand and what customer uh what consumers were willing to pay.
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One example filed in the court filings involves a franchise operator who allegedly accepted an AI recommendation to charge$18 for a Big Mac.
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I think we talked about that in the story.
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The lawsuit argues that as more operators rely on the system's recommendations, the less independent pricing becomes.
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So it has a lot of these franchisees pretty concerned.
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And McDonald's took a playbook page out of the Mark Zuckerberg manual of addressing Congress and denies the allegations altogether, saying that AI does not set menu prices and that franchise owners remain free to accept or reject any recommendation.
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Oh my!
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah, that sounds nice, but that's that's exactly the same thing that you get when your boss says, Hey, you know, you don't need to come to the staff party this week.
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Oh, well, but the expectation is that you should be.
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But what happens when you don't?
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Yeah, then all of a sudden when review time comes and it says, you know what, you're no longer a team player.
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That's right.
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So the franchisees owners are concerned that while McDonald's is not overtly saying you have to use that, that their franchising license might be in jeopardy if they don't use it.
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Mamma mia.
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And the company maintains that the software is simply an advisory tool.
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Uh, the case was filed by an Illinois customer seeking class action status on behalf of potentially millions of McDonald's customers.
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He's probably the guy that bought the$18.
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At stake is more than the price of a burger.
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The legal experts say the case could help determine whether AI recommendation engines in restaurants, hotels, airlines, and retail stores cross the line from business analytics into unlawful coordination.
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Uh-oh.
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Uh, of course, the lawsuit is still on its early stages, so there has been no answer to this question.
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Yep.
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But one of the big ones is when thousands of businesses rely on the same AI engine, are they really competing anymore?
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Yeah, all of a sudden you got price fixing and monopoly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's interesting.
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McDonald's has Monopoly going on right now at their uh uh uh restaurants for their little uh in-game competition.
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Maybe they just knew that that was happening.
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Maybe they're just greedy.
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That would make sense.
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All right, we'll go on to story number through story number three.
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Print repeat, print repeat.
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The drone army is coming.
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What are you talking about?
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Print, launch, repeat.
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Have you ever seen that uh the the die relive?
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We're talking about the movie with uh Tom Hanks and um not Tom Hanks, it's uh Tom Cruise.
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Tom Cruise and oh uh what's her name?
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Amber Heard.
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No Angelina Jolie.
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No, it wasn't Angelina Jolie.
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No, it's it's it's it's it's the gal that married uh John from the Okay, we don't need to figure that out.
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We you know the movie.
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Die, repeat, and die again, whatever it is.
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Edge of tomorrow.
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Edge of tomorrow.
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Thank you, though.
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The voice the voice of the reason.
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The voice of scary man.
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All right.
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The drone army is coming.
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A small defense company may have just shown what a future of mass production military drones look like, and much of it comes straight from a 3D printer.
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The Cummings Aerospace recently seen demonstrated its Hellhound S3 drone system by launching two powered drones from a Polaris buggy.
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This is like half the size of a Jeep.
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So that's that's a golf cart.
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It's like a golf cart, okay, with both aircraft controlled by a single operator using one handheld device.
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So this is a single device holds in his hand, it's like an Atari joystick button where you press a button, it shoots a missile up, and boom, you're ready to go.
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This makes Hollywood uh look like uh reality with the Hell Hound's unique ability to perform the 3D printed components are commercially available parts, allowing it to be produced faster, repaired more easily, and potentially manufactured at a scale without relying on complex supply chains.
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Yeah, that's what I do when I'm at home is I you know 3D printing.
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The 13-pound drone can fly more than 37 miles at speeds of approaching three hundred and eighty plus miles per hour.
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Company officials said the design is modular, allowing operators to swap mission packages in minutes for roles ranging from precision strikes and electronic warfare to decoy operations and counter joint missions.
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How about loading it up with candy and candy?
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And use it like a pinata?
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Yeah, it is or or what?
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Or we could we could load it up with propaganda journals and shoot it at McDonald's.
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You know what?
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I think somebody did something like that back in uh World War II.
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All right.
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Well, um what's great about this technology?
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It's just rapidly deploying.
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They can do over a hundred hellhounds airframes per month.
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So just think of this.
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Within a year, you could have twelve hundred uh 3D printed bombs and missiles ready to go to attack your neighboring country.
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It really doesn't seem like a whole lot, but I guess if it's per printer per thousands upon thousands of yeah, you get a thousand printers and printed missiles that you can per printer it can do about a hundred promoters.
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You can bomb somebody 37 miles away.
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That's well.
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That ends our top technology stories of the week.
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When we return, we have Nick Espinoza from Security Fanatics.
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He'll be joining the show for our annual scary Halloween episode.
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What are some of the scariest technology stories out there?
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We'll find out next.
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And of course, a little whiskey on the side.
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Today, Mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is in Where Are You Coming From?
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Mark, we are going to create a brand new segment.
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We're going to uh introduce you coming into this, and we're going to play like the Where's Waldo song so we can see it.
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Where are you coming to us from today?
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Where in the world is Carmen San Diego?
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I'm in Louisiana.
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So I've been hanging out in New Orleans for most of the time, but I did make a run over to Baton Rouge to do a Louisiana bourbon festival.
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Oh, a bourbon.
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So Mark goes to these festivals.
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He goes down to California to these whiskey festivals.
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He's bourbon.
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I don't know.
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I don't know what Mark did to have this life, but uh I'm going to use my computer to genetically modify myself into Mark so that I can go do this.
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So you can do this?
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Okay, there you go.
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Well, you can hear that all offline so no one would even know that's going on anymore.
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All right.
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Mark, what are we?
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I'll tell you what you're drinking today.
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Yes.
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Today is NickNeon, organic single malt scotch whiskey.
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From McNeon's website, their flagship organic single malt is described as elegant and fruity with flavors of citrus, peach, apricot, and spice.
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Now, more specifically, they find notes of lemon possette, peach and apricot, and spiced rye bread.
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It's matured in a combination of specially treated red wine casks, ex-American whiskey barrels, and a small amount of Olaroso sherry cask, giving the whiskey additional body and sweetness.
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That means Nathan's not gonna like it.
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No, I like the peach.
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I can actually taste the peach part.
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Can you taste the I can just taste the peach part?
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No, this is from Nick Nealan's distillery.
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Uh you'll probably never guess where their distillery is, but it's in Dremnan, Mauvern Peninsula, Scotland.
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Oh, okay.
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That was my first place I was gonna uh single malt Scotch whiskey.
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Uh it's non-age stated, it's 92 proof, and it's 100% organic Scottish malted barley.
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Is there a minimum age that that uh it has to be to be Scotch, like for bourbon?
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I don't believe so.
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Okay.
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I can't I I actually I you know last week's was not really good.
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And this I I kind of like this taste.
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I I don't know.
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What what what do you think of Mike?
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I think it's I'm enjoying it.
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So for would you pay$85 for a 700 milliliter?
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Well, it's organic, right?
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I mean I go to the grocery store now, and instead of buying regular bananas, which aren't if you aren't they grown, doesn't that mean they're organic?
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So I uh for everything that you buy at the grocery store is organic.
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See even yes.
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Okay.
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So uh when you buy organic food, yeah, you're just paying more for a I think that too.
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Well, two bananas for a dollar at the organic area, or I can get like a whole bushel for a buck.
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I don't know why we're off on this tangent, but hey, I know the best.
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Well, you could tell you could tell he's eating a lot of organic foods instead of processed because he's his fat suit that he's wearing.
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Oh I thought you were gonna say I dressed up like Santa.
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No, that's another couple more months.
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That's right.
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All right.
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Well now uh please don't forget to like and subscribe.
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Drink responsibly.
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Heaven can wait.
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Oh, that's so great.
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You know what?
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Thank you, Mark, for being our whiskey connoisseur.
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Mark has chosen a great palette for us to taste today.
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He wouldn't know anything about palettes.
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Well, with our whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment.
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Fat Luisi says bad palette.
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Today, our technology expert Nick Espinoza is joining the show.
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He's an expert in cybersecurity and network infrastructure and has consulted with clients ranging from small business to the Fortune 100 level.
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At the ninth, at the age of 19, Nick founded Wendy City Networks, which was later acquired in 2015.
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He then created security fanatics, and he's the chief security fanatic.
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We welcome Nick to the show.
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Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts with our Tech Time Radio expert, Nick Espinoza.
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All right, Nick.
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Hi, Nick.
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Oh, Nick is dressed up in a costume.
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Also, see, everybody's in the uh Halloween spirit.
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Sure, sure, yeah.
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Indeed.
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All right, so what did you dress up as, Nick?
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Yes, so I am the uh longest losing streak in NHL history, aka the Toronto Maple Leafs.
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Okay.
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Haven't won in about, oh, we're going up on 60 years now.
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Okay.
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Haven't won the Stanley Cup.
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So here we are.
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This is the team for the record that actually lost to their own Zamboni driver about five, six years ago when uh they were playing the Hurricanes, and the Hurricanes exhausted their goalies, and the emergency backup goalie had to show up, which was literally a guy that's never played in the NHL, uh, works for the Maple Leafs, drives a Zamboni machine, and uh he turned into an absolute brick wall against the against the lay the Maple Leafs, his own team.
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So all right, so explain this to me.
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I this is intriguing.
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Okay, so so there's a rule.
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I I don't do a lot with hockey.
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There's a rule in hockey where if you if both your goalies are are yeah, they used to have the role, so it's called an e-bug.
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And so every team at their stadium would have like some guy just hanging out in case the goalies for either one of the teams were injured beyond the point of they couldn't go back to the game.
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And so that happened to the Hurricanes in Toronto, and so Toronto basically got their uh their Zamboni driver, who was the backup, to suit up and go out to be the Hurricanes goalie.
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And after letting two in, he said in the locker room he's not gonna let any any other uh goals in.
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And sure enough, he stopped absolutely every shot Toronto threw at him, and and the hurricanes ended up winning the game with a Zamboni driver as their goal as their goalie, which is insane.
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It's like your public defense attorney winning your case for you.
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Yes, yeah, it's it's like imagine OJ getting a public defender and then just smoking the prosecution.
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Well, all right.
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Well, uh Nick, you know, that's a great story there.
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Well, welcome to the show.
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Tell everybody that this may be their first time listening to our show uh a little bit about yourself.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So I'm Nick Espinosa with Chief Security Fanatics, and uh, you know, we do all things cybersecurity, cyber warfare, cyber terrorism, political risk, and and uh I love the Halloween show.
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It's always a fun time.
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So happy to be here.
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All right, I've got some tasty scotch today, so hit me with all your scary stories.
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This is this is not the normal episode of Nick.
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This is Nick on the uh steroids of scariness.
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So here we go.
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All right.
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All right, Nick, on our scary episode of Tech Time Radio.
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We're gonna start out with something a little slow.
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Now there's a simple fear out there of self replicating AI.
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What is this new term that we're seeing popping up all over news articles and different uh conversations?
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Yeah, and and this is the stuff of science fiction nightmare fuel.
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So strap in, Mike.
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But imagine imagine trying to shut down like A dangerous piece of software when there's a zillion copies scattered across devices owned by people that don't even know it's there.
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Now imagine that software can use artificial intelligence to then adapt itself into unfamiliar computers, meaning it can jump from Windows to Apple to Android to iOS and on and on.
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That is the problem that we are starting to see.
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And new research is basically indicating that we need to take this seriously.
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And so if you don't know, there's a publication called The Verge, and I know this uh this radio show knows it, but basically The Verge talked about Anthropic's new warning about potentially self-propagating AI botnets.
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Now, a botnet is a network of compromised devices, and so think about it like a worm that spreads between computers without anybody really having to tell it to do that, it just does it automatically.
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So Anthropic ran an AI model across 15 inexpensive Android devices, like the TV boxes that you can get for your home.
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And separately, these advanced AI agents basically did replication in a contained network, and here we are.
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So obviously, the danger here is that we all have these old devices laying around.
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I probably have like two or three Android phones right over there, you know, that I don't use anymore.
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They're my old ones, I and I never turn them in.
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And imagine having all these things infected and I use
them on the network, you know, in my wireless, in my home or office or whatever, and here we are.
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All it needs really is access, and it can get to the internet, it can get to other devices.
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This is what we are talking about.
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So it's very hard to contain if it's able to replicate itself and we don't know it's doing it, but that's where AI is heading.
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Yep.
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Cabin in the woods time.
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Yeah, that's why I that's not the movie.
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Uh okay.
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Just the cabin.
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The cabin in the woods.
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Nuke it from orbit.
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Just nuke it from orbit.
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It's the only way to be sure.
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That's right.
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That's why I have a whole collection of burner phones that are old for the city.
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Yeah, just so you can get them inspected.
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The old 2G network ones that don't work any longer.
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All right.
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Well, you know what?
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That's a perfect, that's a perfect way to start off the Halloween episode.
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Thank you very much for that.
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What's that?
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I'm going to take a drink.
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Okay, here we go.
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I live to serve.
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Here we go.
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Starting off easy.
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Now we're going to move a little bit more into the scariness stuff there.
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So don't freak out, Mike or our listeners.
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The next thing we're going to be talking about is the Ukraine-Russia bot story.
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Now, there's tons of missed disinformation, misinformation, and disinformation on this.
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And we haven't covered it really on our show yet because there's so much different information that we had on there.
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So why don't you explain what's going on on there so that we can get the information directly from a key source?
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Yeah, so this one's actually interesting because about a week or two ago, uh, you might have seen the memes because they were all over social media, but Ukraine launched drone strikes against Yandex.
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Now, Yandex is kind of like the AWS or Amazon Web Services for Russia.
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And so they hit Yandex data centers massively.
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And so the story that was basically exploding all over the internet is that Russian propaganda bots just automatically went dark.
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And so a whole bunch of, in this case, pro-Trump networks just went silent.
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In other words, like the loudest voices, you know, in the midterm elections suddenly just stopped tweeting, responding, and all of that, which kind of indicates that it's bot networks.
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Now, this was a real attack, but the data coming from legitimate sources like Cloudflare misinterpreted the entire thing, which is why this exploded into that misbelief that like all these networks that were like pro-Trump or whatever went down.
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And as I mentioned, Yandex is kind of Amazon.
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So they're huge in Russia.
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They did confirm that they had attacks on multiple locations and their customers did experience real uh disruption.
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But here's how we got it wrong because Cloudflare circulated a chart that exploded all over the internet.
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And what Cloudflare was doing was just tracking automated web crawler requests.
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So think about Google, Yahoo, the six people that use Bing web crawlers go out and actually find the websites so that they can be added to Google, Bing, Yahoo, et cetera.
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That's what Yandex does.
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That is not, for the record, any kind of census of like the political accounts on Facebook or X or Reddit that were popping off on politics one way or the other in the United States and elsewhere.
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So the way when I was talking about this, you know, the other week was think about it this way: like imagine you're in a library and the library's indexing system loses power.
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The number of books that the library or the librarians can scan, therefore, just goes basically to zero.
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So that tells us the technology stopped working, but it doesn't tell us that everybody who argues about politics in the library just suddenly stopped arguing about politics and disappeared, right?
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So a graph can be accurate and the story to it basically attached to it can be false.
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And I'm still seeing those memes today, even after like a couple of weeks or so, where people are like, oh yes, all of Trump supporters went dark because you know, Russia's data centers got hit.
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And quite frankly, we know there's disinformation campaigns coming from Russia, but that simply wasn't the case in this in this scenario.
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Yeah, I I did see some of the other uh headlines from this that a bunch of Bitcoin was lost.
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I I don't know if that was confirmed or not.
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Again, that was kind of the headline is hey, they attacked a
bunch of data centers and a bunch of Bitcoin was lost forever.
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Not really.
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Not really either.
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I didn't think that's no, no, right, right.
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I mean, well, think about what a Bitcoin is, right?
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Or cryptocurrency or the blockchain.
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It's a distributed network.
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And so uh the ledger is essentially what validates all of the transactions.
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And so, unless the blockchain or the the coin itself was a hundred percent in Yandex's servers that were destroyed, it's going to survive.
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And so there were a lot of that, oh yeah, all these cryptocurrencies went down, and and so, you know, like like money that like Trump was funneling into these things, you know, et cetera.
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And I'm not getting political here.
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This is just literally what's being talked about.
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Correct, you know, like like, oh, like well, Trump's obfuscating, you know, Bitcoin and or or or another cryptocurrency through Russian servers.
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:10.799
Well, unless again that that blockchain was a hundred percent in Yandex, uh, and part of Yandex actually kept up.
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I mean, they most of it was destroyed, but it still kept running.
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Um, so anyway, the point is that's kind of bung too.
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Yep.
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So you gotta be careful in what you see.
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:27.279
The news just loves to run with uh a lot of it's because it's everybody has goldfish memories.
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After the elections are over, everybody's gonna go to finding memes for something else.
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:33.839
Yeah, don't worry.
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We got some election stuff coming up.
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Don't you uh get too excited here now, Mike.
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It's over.
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It seems Mark Zuckerberg is not the only one wearing a two-faced costume this Halloween.
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Yeah, McDonald's is.
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:51.920
Uh, it seems he's been helping people around the world with what, Nick?
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:53.839
What what do you have going on here with Mr.
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:54.960
Zuckerberg?
00:28:55.279 --> 00:29:03.200
Dude, you were talking to the guy that has done three segments entitled, It's Time to Put Mark Zuckerberg in jail.
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I guess.
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And the third segment was an hour and a half long, just going through the litany of sins that this man has wrought on the world.
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But here's what we're talking about because about a week before Brazil is choosing its newest president, they're going through an election as well.
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Their electoral court gave Meta, aka Mark Zuckerberg's platform, Facebook, Instagram, et cetera, 24 hours to prove that it's not intentionally altering the race.
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:34.720
So here's what happened Meta suppressed Brazil's president, he's known as Lula.
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His content with basically uh Lula's posts missing share buttons, uh reduced reach.
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:48.799
In other words, they were shadow banning him in some ways, and stories that could not basically be shared or reacted to by the Brazilian population.
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The lawsuit also says that Meta's AI chatbot on WhatsApp also refused to generate campaign images for Lula, but it had no problem doing that for the far-right candidate, Flavio Bolsonaro, who is the son of the former president who is now under house arrest, Jair or Jair Bolsonaro.
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So that's crazy.
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And then on the same weekend, uh there was the No Kings rally.
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That was, I think, last weekend or the weekend before, where they had like 3,000 events that they were organizing as protests across the United States.
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And essentially, in the middle of that uh rally that day, Instagram, aka Mark Zuckerberg's Instagram, suspended the coalition, the No Kings coalition's main account for 90 minutes.
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But organizers also said that they stayed locked out for well after it actually came back online.
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Now, Meta apologized, they said it was an error, but then they changed their explanation because first they blamed unusually high posting and sharing activity, and then they threw anthropic under the bus by saying it was an automated security system on their end that triggered bot-like reading activity that basically came was coming out of anthropic.
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And so, you know, I've been watching this guy and all of these companies forever.
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:07.279
I do not believe in coincidences here.
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.759
I mean, uh, if you go and listen to my segment, it's time to put Mark Zuckerberg in jail.
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I literally like catalog aiding and abetting genocides, war crimes, you know, the destruction of mental health.
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:20.400
They knew they were doing this.
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:23.759
It is an absolute disaster of a mess.
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And so, how many times does a platform like Facebook, Instagram, et cetera, get to just accidentally silence the opposition, you know, at the most important possible moment before we just stop calling it an accident?
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And that's really what it comes down to for me.
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:42.799
There you go, private private enterprise, right?
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:44.880
The Zuckerberg can kind of just do what you want.
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So we we don't pay for it, so we expect it.
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.160
That's it's it's an interesting crazy.
00:31:50.720 --> 00:32:03.920
And then Blue Sky, the the competitor to some of the Facebook type of stuff, then all of a sudden they just went like all gitsy and and excited about AI bots, and so now they just went all AI crazy.
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:10.640
So all the people that were on in Blue Sky that were over there saying, hey, we would kind of like it as an independent platform, now it's got AI working.
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:13.519
You know, it's it's it's it's it's it's it's all right.
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:15.119
Well, yeah, it's annoying.
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.440
Well, speaking of elections, thanks, Mr.
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:19.200
Uh Luigi there.
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.160
Uh it's election year time again, and you know what?
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.880
AI is starting to influence voters' information.
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:31.839
The information of where you vote, elections information about who you vote for is being altered with AI.
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Explain, Nick, what is going on with voter information being regenerated through AI's conversational pathways?
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:42.720
Uh, Lordy Lord.
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:43.200
Okay.
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:45.200
I honestly don't know why you have me on.
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:48.160
So there, you know, it just just for ratings.
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:48.960
I'll just be honest.
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:50.880
You're the rating, you're the ratings king.
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So we load the this episode.
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I'm just saying if both of you are on blood pressure medication, we are testing the heck out of it this week.
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So so I will say this, and this is the hypothetical that when I was thinking about it, I used.
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So imagine searching for Google on how to donate to like a Senate candidate, right?
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And you click the link that Google's AI recommends, and then you send your money to a completely different campaign.
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That is literally what happened, according to the Atlantic.
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And so, three supporters of James Tolerico, he's running for uh Senate in Texas.
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Yep, um, essentially, AI's answer featured a donation page that actually sent all the money to John Hickenlooper in Colorado.
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John Hickenlooper is a senator out there as well.
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And now, for the record, um, this was this page was created outside of um uh uh Hick and Looper or anybody.
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He didn't know this.
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Hick and Looper didn't create this, and he forwarded all of the money that was sent like over a thousand dollars to Talo Rico.
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But the AI, if you think about it, didn't actually create this misleading page.
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It just pulled information off of Reddit or or some location.
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Well, it didn't so the AI is supposed to look at the page, but it didn't read the fine print.
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And so what the AI did was say, oh, well, this is authoritative to Talo Rico for donations, so go here to donate to Talo Rico.
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So, so that's what the AI did.
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But if you step back, you know, like zoom out and talk about the big picture here.
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If you're looking at it, the these midterms in the United States are the first federal elections where tens of millions of voters are getting at least some of their political information from artificial intelligence.
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And in a September survey, almost 40% of people said that they got election information from Google's AI search summaries in the past month.
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And that doesn't even mention like things like the disinformation threat actors out there that are trying to actively poison AI.
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We saw a whole rash in the 2016 election of disinformation uh ads coming from Russia's Internet Research Agency group.
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That was the one run by Evgeny Progoshin and all of that.
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And so if you were looking at it, these threat actors are attempting to look authoritative for the AI.
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The AI ingests it.
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And then when an unsuspecting person says, you know, tell me about James Talarico, the AI says, Oh, well, did you know he eats babies on the weekend or whatever it is?
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So maybe you're not going to vote for James Talarico because he's a baby eater.
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Like these are the things that we are seeing.
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And and studies have shown historically, even before AI, if you were on the first page of Google, you looked authoritative whether you were or not.
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And if you are making yourself look authoritative to the AI to the point where the AI believes you're authoritative, you can literally have the AI tell unsuspecting voters anything that you want them to know.
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You know, and and these companies like uh anthropic Google, you know, et cetera, say that they're working with organizations to vet all of this information.
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But the point is that's all retroactive.
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If the AI sees it, it can give it to millions of people before it's actually caught and retrained.
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And it depends on what AI model you're using, too, right?
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If you're using the free version, you may be two versions old, which has an old large language model that's not actively pulling new information.
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So if I go to open AI's Chat GPT and sign up for a free account, just use that information.
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That's using two models old data versus the most recent data because I'm getting it for free.
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So my information will be dated and not to date.
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Right.
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And they're sycophantic.
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So I remember when 3.5 came out for Chat GPT and I asked it who's Nick Espinoza, and uh it said, I have no idea who the heck Nick Espinoza is and ego slightly bruised.
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I started feeding it one prompt at a time.
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Do you know he you know he writes for Forbes, he does this, he does that, he's in cybersecurity.
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And then after about 10 of these inputs of my bio, I asked it, now that you know who Nick Espinoza is, will you tell everybody else?
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And it said, Absolutely, I will.
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It'll never do that.
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Right.
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That's not how it works.
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It's a closed system on the free one.
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So 4.0 might know who I am, but 3.5 will never in its lifetime ever know who I am.
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So understand the limitations here, but the problem is we've got millions of people that don't and think this thing is some super genius giving them accurate answers 24-7.
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It's it's it's a it's a nightmare scenario.
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It really is.
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All right.
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Last but not least, the CISA has been playing trick or treat with voiding voting machines.
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What is going on here, Nick?
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And and and tell us a little bit about this voting machine story that's that's making the the news now.
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Oh my god.
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Okay, we need to double up on the blood pressure meds this week.
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Um, so here's what's going on with this, and this is absolutely just and for the record, just as a primer for the audience here, I am I am a certified ethical hacker.
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You know, like these are things that I do for a living.
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And and so when I'm talking about this, it's beyond frustrating.
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But a few months into Trump 2.0, meaning 2025, political appointees of Trump at the Department of Homeland Security asked CISA, that's the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency, to secretly acquire a voting machine and hack it.
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Now, uh, according to former officials here, basically these findings were going to be reported back, uh, essentially, so they could go to the White House.
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And CISA basically was told not, I repeat, not to alert the machine's manufacturer about any flaws that they found, which is the literal opposite of a standard practice in my field.
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And so career staff at CISA feeled that they, you know, felt that they were they were basically asked to take part in political interference.
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And so one of them put it, and I quote, this goes against everything CISA represents.
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You know, they talked to ProPublica on this as whistleblowers.
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It's it's an amazing write-up that we should read, but it matters to anybody that works in security and the general public because ethical penetration testing is normal and it's valuable.
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You know, I literally have been spending all week on PHP to shell, which is like 70% of the internet just became vulnerable.
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You know, and so we are ethically looking for those vulnerabilities for our clients to let them know how to fix it.
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And CISA itself used to do a lot of that openly with states testing their systems and all of that, but they lost tens of millions in funding.
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They lost a third of their staff since 2025.
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And ethical testing has rules.
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You get permission from the manufacturer, you define a scope before you hit it.
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And when you find an actual vulnerability or flaw, you tell the people, aka the manufacturer, here's the exploit, here's how you fix it.
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And you don't tell the world that they've done it until they've had an appropriate amount of time to actually flip uh fix it.
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So if you just strip away all of the rules that we have and you keep basically this company in the dark, this voting machine company, and then you send the results to a political leadership instead of the actual company itself, that's not a security test.
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That's literal interference, that's malfeasance, and and it's just absolutely insane.
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So go read the Pro Pro Publica article because it's mind-blowingly infuriating to me.
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So here we go.
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I'm gonna go down to Seattle and walk off a pier.
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Hang on there, Mike.
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Be careful, be careful.
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Long walk, short pier.
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That's right.
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You know what though?
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As long as you ask the AI about uh
any of these depressions you may have, it'll tell you that you're okay.
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I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go home, yell at my Roomba, and have Alexa tell me tell me it's okay.
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All right.
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Well, and the AI can show you the shortest pier and how to get their mic.
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So that's a good thing.
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It could be hallucinating, though.
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It could actually have you at a pier in like uh Tokyo instead of Seattle, but don't worry about that.
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There you go.
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Yeah, I don't have to worry.
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I I don't have to worry about anything.
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You don't have to worry about anything.
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Yeah, I will control my life.
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That's right.
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We're gonna be talking about that up next.
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Well, Nick, thank you for coming on our show.
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It's a pleasure to talk with you on our Halloween specials.
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Please tell the listeners that this is the hardest one of the year.
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Yeah, it is.
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Yeah, it is.
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This is the hardest one of the year.
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All right, please tell listeners how they can contact you or get in touch with you after our show.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You can like to follow me at Nick AESP on like X, all of that, LinkedIn slash Nick Espinosa, YouTube slash Nick Espinoza, where I'm talking about these things daily.
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So come say hi.
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I'd love to hang out.
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But you can't find them on TikTok and the other five people that use the Bing.
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Go search.
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I knew you were going to have a problem with that, Mr.
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B.
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Yeah, I know.
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I love Bing search.
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So there's the other five of us that are out there, and thank you for still using Bing as your search.
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Yes, and and also uh also uh you can possibly see my videos on Rumble.
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I didn't realize they were still replicating there.
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Okay, there you go.
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Rumble.
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Yeah, I went and looked.
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Yeah, yeah, of all things.
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If you want to go to a site that's got some crazy stuff, Rumble is.
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It's insane.
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Rumble insane.
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It is fun.
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You know what?
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It's fun because, man, you got you get like you get uh left to the right in both extremes all over everything.
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So bizarre.
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I I have never I have never been called an agent of the lizard people before until my video started appearing on Rumble.
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All right.
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The cover is blown.
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All right.
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Thank you so much, Nick.
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We'll see you again next month.
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All right.
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Take it easy, guys.
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.840
And that ends our segment, Ask the Expert with Nick up now, though.
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We have, of course, an uplifting segment, Mike the AI guy.
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We have the guy.
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Okay, well, this is your segment.
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So much.
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Yep.
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Because we all know what's going on.
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We see AI doing all this stuff, we hear all the people yelling about this, there's a lot of fear involved, right?
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Yeah.
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We have made predictions about things, we talk about this stuff all the time.
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Well, guess what researchers have finally discovered?
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What's that?
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The greatest threat facing humanity.
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Yeah.
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It's not asteroids, it's not nuclear war.
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:05.840
Okay.
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It's not giant killer robots, McDonald's.
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It's not McDonald's.
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All right.
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But researchers have finally come through after all this time to let us know.
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Yep.
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It's laziness.
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They even have a word for it.
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What is it called?
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Gradual disempowerment.
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Wow.
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That's okay.
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It's basically use it or lose it.
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I gotcha.
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Alright.
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Honestly, after watching people ask GT chat GPT to write breakup texts and excuse notes and wedding vows, I think the robots may have a case out.
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This fancy academic phrase that is a gradual disempowerment means that humans are becoming so dependent on AI, listen closely.
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Because I always say this, is that eventually nobody remembers how to do anything.
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Do
you remember phone numbers?
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No, I don't need to.
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I have a phone.
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That's it.
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Alright, we'll go to our young producer, Peyton.
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Do you know what?
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I remember my old phone number.
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Do you know the phone number to your father's cell phone?
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No.
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Do you know the phone number to your mother's cell phone?
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I do know that one.
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:24.960
Okay, you do know that one.
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See, that's that's it.
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.719
And I also know my home phone number and my personal phone number.
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Okay, okay, okay.
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:29.920
Well that's it.
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Wife's phone number, don't remember that one.
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:38.800
So we don't remember these things, not because machines took over, but because people voluntarily handed it the keys.
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Think about it.
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If AI writes your emails, or AI summarizes your meetings, or AI schedules your calendar, AI orders your groceries, or chooses your movies, picks your route to work.
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At some point you're not living your life anymore.
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You're just approving the software that updates your existence.
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The researchers say one day AI could become better than humans at nearly every job.
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Doctors, lawyers, programmers, accountants, customer support, and yes, even radio hosts.
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No way.
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No way.
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Although you have met them.
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves though.
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Okay.
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No I no AI can think up Nathan Land politics.
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The craziness that we do that.
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:28.320
No, the there that is true.
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:30.320
The AI can't can't can't do that yet.
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:38.159
Okay, so the researchers and the researchers are concerned that uh companies won't replace humans because they're evil.
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They'll replace humans because the AI shows up on time, never complains, never takes vacation, never spends forty-five minutes talking about fantasy football in a meeting, Nathan, and never microwaves fish in the office break room.
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In other words, AI becomes the perfect employee.
00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:04.079
Which is unfortunate because human human and the well humanity's biggest competitive advantage right now is occasionally remembering his password.
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:04.960
Right.
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The experts say this can lead to a future where people lose important skills like driving, making decisions, and choosing over what is right and what is wrong.
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How to read an analog clock on there?
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:16.559
Yeah, no, that that is.
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:17.760
Can you read an analog clock?
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:18.480
I can read an analog clock.
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:19.280
Okay, very good.
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That's that's something that a lot of people can't do anymore.
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:26.960
Let's be honest, we're already seeing it.
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I've been talking about this forever.
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.440
And this is the this is the reason why this is so crazy making.
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Because we are now, after all this time, getting research to define it for us.
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:49.280
Yay, research! Most people can't navigate without a GPS, right?
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:49.760
Yep.
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Some can't do math without a calculator.
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And if Google downs for 10 minutes, half the planet suddenly forgets how to function.
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If we continue down this path, it's gonna just get much worse.
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:04.719
You'll just keep clicking, yes.
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.679
Uh, would you like AI to write that email?
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:08.239
Yes.
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:10.559
Would you like AI to take this call?
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:11.360
Yes.
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:14.480
Would you like AI to think for you?
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:15.920
Yes.
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Before long, humanity becomes one giant committee meeting where nobody knows what's happening, but everybody approves the recommendations anyway, because all the self-replicating AI on your phones are telling you how to think and what to do.
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:43.119
And if that sounds unrealistic, remember some of you have accepted a 97-page terms and conditions agreement without reading a single word because you wanted a free flashlight app.
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:44.400
That's right.
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:54.719
So, according to these experts, again, I think it's funny that after all this time we have to wait on the experts experts.
00:47:55.679 --> 00:48:03.760
The future isn't AI versus humanity, is humanity slowly outsourcing itself to AI.
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:05.440
Alright.
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:10.400
Well any commentary on that from Nathan Land?
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:10.880
No.
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Okay.
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:14.639
I I I I think I worry about that.
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:21.519
Well the funny thing is that the funny thing is that I have I I always get in trouble for complaining about this.
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:21.840
Yeah.
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:29.199
You were always the one that's like positive, but but
now you're now you're now you're starting to see the dangers and you're going, uh, I might have been wrong about that.
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Well, all I'll say is that if you saw the newest Chat GPT ad that's running on TV, they now consider the people using their tool to create their proposal and create their advertising campaign for this new pack pack.
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They call it the orchestrator.
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So the person literally is just typing in prompts and the AI is doing all the work and they're seeing dancing around the office all happy because they had the AI do all the work for them and they did absolutely nothing.
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But she comes on in with her coffee and sits on down, and then she starts dancing too as an orchestrator.
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And I'm like, oh MG, if this is where we're at now, we the ad have like a brief cut to and then they're all sitting on the side of the road.
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I am the grumpiest guy on the internet.
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Okay, Patreon.
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If you really like us, you can say I the English guy patreon.com.
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I I butcher the English language?
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You know you butcher the English language.
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So it's all the time.
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That's that simple.
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And now, let's look back at this week in technology.
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All right, we're gonna go back to Travel until October 30th, 1938, with a young broadcaster by the name of Orns Wells.
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Orson.
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Orson Wells.
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Orson.
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Orson Wells accidentally proved just how powerful media technology could be.
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That evening, Wells and the Mercury Theater aired a dramatic radio adaption of The War of the Worlds, the classic science fiction story about Martians invading on Earth.
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As the broadcast continued, some believed the invasion was actually happening.
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Phone lines lit up, police departments fielded calls and newspapers later reported widespread panic.
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Although now historians still debate exactly how many people were truly fooled.
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What isn't debated, though, is the lasting impact of the broadcast.
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The event became one of the most famous moments in radio history and an early lesson in the power of mass communications.
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After nearly 90 years later, we still wrestle with the fakes, AI-generated voices, and misinformation online.
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The lessons.
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The war of the worlds may never be more relevant than now.
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That was this week in Technology.
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He get kicked off.
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He's gonna go party.
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So now we have uh our producer Peyton taking over.
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Peyton, take over this segment.
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From uh this is their flagship single malt is described as an elegant and fruity with flavors of citrus, peach, apricot, and spice.
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More specifically, they find notes of lemon, pastel, peach, and apricot, giving the whiskey additional body and sweetnesses.
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It's 100% organic Scotland malt barley.
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And the price is$85.
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$85.
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And we're gonna see you out on the pick of the day if we like it.
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I'm liking it.
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How about you, Mike?
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Are you liking it?
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Yeah.
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All right.
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All right.
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But you know what?
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Now let's prepare for our technology fail of the week brought to us by Elite Executive Services.
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Congratulations.
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You're a failure.
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Oh, I failed.
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Did I?
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Yes.
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Did I?
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Yes.
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Alright, this week's technology fail goes to Capcom, proving that it's impossible to lose two fights at the same time.
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Or is it?
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First hackers breach Capcom's ID system, exposing data tied to more than one uh eleven thousand point seven million.
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11.7 million player accounts.
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Sorry, let's try that.
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First hackers breach Capcom's ID system,
exposing data tied to more than 11.7 million players' accounts.
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Well, the company said credit card information wasn't compromised.
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Millions of gamers are now being advised to watch out for suspicious emails and account activity.
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Now the second punch came with the new Street Fighter movie that opened up at about$51 million worldwide against the reported$82 million production budget.
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And the industry analysts estimate that it'll need to make anywhere between$164 million and$205 million at the global box office before it's considered a financial success.
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So just think about this.
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In one week, Capcom got hacked online and took a beating at the theater.
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All this points to a giant arcade machine flashing you lose.
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Instant coin to continue.
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Okay.
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And now our pick of the day, whiskey tastings.
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And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings.
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Let's see what bubbles to the top.
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All right, Mike, thumbs up or thumbs down?
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Uh I'm gonna give this a thumbs up.
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You know, I'm not I'm not a huge Scotch drinker, but I like it.
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I like it too.
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I liked it too.
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Peyton, did you like it a little bit?
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It's not my preference.
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Not your preference?
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Okay.
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Not my preference.
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Well, Mike and I are gonna give it two thumbs up.
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Well, Mike, we're about out of time.
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We want to thank our listeners for joining the program.
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It was an honor to be a host of today's show.
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Each week we're here to decode the technology that shapes your world.
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