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Welcome to the Investor's Guide to Joy.
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If you're making serious money as a seven, eight, or nine-figure business owner and you're losing most of it to taxes, to bad deals, to CPAs or wealth advisors who never talk to each other, or let alone know what they're talking about, this show is for you.
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You'll learn key insights on scaling, exiting, or avoiding leaving money on the table. My name is Paul H. Graham. I'm a three-time founder, and I've been in and built companies driving over nine figures in value.
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I'll share what I've learned along the way with investments, mistakes, and the lessons to help you build wealth in areas of life that actually matter to you without sacrificing your joy.
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If you want to go in deeper in any of it, you can find me on LinkedIn or you can subscribe to the newsletter where I talk about the fractional family office framework and how it can be beneficial for you as an entrepreneur to go from money maker to money manager.
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Now, without further ado, let's dive in. Today we have a special, not only guest, but really a topic.
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It's something that I'm passionate about, not because of the figure, right, of, of say nine figures or eight figures, but it's more the idea of recognizing, like, what you could have been and could have done.
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And, and sometimes I find there are two days that we have in this life.
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It's, you know, being born and realizing, like, what we could do because we were and then what we can create and our ability and our capacity, and knowing why we have some of the skill sets that we do, and really leaning into those and being our best, most authentic self to drive, really, transformation for others, right?
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Really helping others along the way. So what does that look like from a business sense and a life sense?
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Today we're specifically going to go through, well, hey, like, what would a life be like if knowing what we knew now was maybe implemented 20 years ago, let's say, right?
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That sort of reflection and something that Larry's absolutely living on purpose and intention today.
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Um, I feel like I've been reborn, um, since we had our initial conversation, and I might be reborn again in this conversation. Um, and it's, it's not just about the outcomes.
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Huge things that I've really found from our initial talks have really been more about how are the day-to-day and the moments and the intentions and why we're doing what we're doing, and having fun along the way, right?
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Sometimes the best things we have work out in unexpected ways. So Larry, and we talked about how, you know, it seems like 20 years ago, right, you learned things that could have drastically changed your net worth.
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And for context, right, you run an eight-figure business, um, you have a large ranch, and you have a, you know, large real estate portfolio, so certainly you know how to do things.
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I mean, 20 years ago, did something specifically happen? Was it a moment? Like, what, what kind of, like, woke you up to this realization of, you know, I would think, like, you're, you're the best version of yourself.
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Well, I wasn't. You know, that's the crazy thing about all this process that we go through.
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You know, really what I'm, what I'm speaking about today is that if I would've figured this out 20 years ago, I would probably be worth $100 million today. I really went on this journey about three years...
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I'm 63 years old now. Best shape I've been in my life today. I'm extremely healthy, very motivated. But I've always been motivated, right? Yeah. But I started just diving in deeper. My mom had died.
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You know, things were kinda looking different in my life. I, I was very successful by whatever the world determines that was, but I never felt like I was. And so I went through this journey of seeking this out.
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And a couple of things that I did that I wished I would've done. First, I would've done, like, a DiSC, which is a psycholog- Mm. I call it psychological profile. I did culture index. I've done- Right...
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the ones called PI. And then I just did another one the other day. And what I found was that I'm a visionary. I did not know that. Mm. So here I am, 62 years old, and I find out I'm a visionary.
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And I was very frustrated 'cause my business was always kind of this seven-figure, eight-figure business, and I just thought, "Man, I just suck," right? I was like, "I, I guess that's all I'm a- capable of." Mm-hmm.
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But what I found out was I was... I'm CFO, CEO, you know, sales manager, design manager, manufacturing manager. I'm buying real estate, I'm buying cows, I'm writing books.
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But I never had anybody that was working in my blind spots. Mm. I was the guy doing all the work. Uh-huh. And I, and I'm running five different businesses and I'm like, "I just can't get anywhere.
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I just don't understand why." And you're like, "Well, first of all, you're running five businesses, so you're doing something." But my manufacturing, where it was at.
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So anyway, what I'm getting to is I read this book, and everybody's heard of it, it's called Rocket Fuel, and there's another- Mm... one called Traction. Mm-hmm. In
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And I learn, I'm literally listening to this book running, and after about the fifth chapter I'm like, "Well, heck, I know the problem now. I need to have an integrator."
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I'm a visionary, so I have all these amazing ideas, but I can't freaking implement them all. I can only... I mean, I'm doing five. That's plenty. Mm-hmm. But so I start...
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What I did was then I reduced that five now to three, and I'm focusing on those things. And the amazing thing is it sounds, oh, it's disappointing, you're finding out at 63.
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I believe in my heart I will be able to do more in the next 20 years than I did the previous 62 years, and that's what I'm here to tell people to be inspired about. If you can do this stuff at your age, Paul- Yeah...
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now think about what, how much stuff you can get achieving by hiring your blind spots. That's it. It's just that simple. And because we're entrepreneurs, we're drivers, right? We're guys controlling everything.
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We're tr- you can't, you can't build a business doing it all yourself.
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Now, there's gonna be plenty of guys that are worth a billion dollars that are gonna listen to this podcast go, "Well, heck, I knew that 35 years ago."
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I'm just telling you I figured it out later, but I'm more energized today. So those people that are out here and thinking, "Oh, I can't..." Just think about if you can fix this today, think about how long your runway is.
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I mean, Paul, look at you. Mm-hmm. If you can figure this out today, you've got 35 years to go. I mean- Yeah... think about what you can achieve. I mean, it's just, it's unbelievable.
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And that's what really has gotten me even crazier and more excited now than I've been in, in, in 20- I've had a business for 27 years, and I am more energized today at 63 than I was when I was 36 and thought I knew everything.
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Is the energy, like, emotional or is it physical or is it, do you find it both? Like, describe energy. Emotional determines your physical. If you're sitting around depressed- Yeah...
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obviously you're not gonna physically be willing to do things, or it's gonna make it harder, right? Because like me, I'm 1,019 days today, I think is the number I've worked out consecutively, not missed a day.
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Well, obviously that create... You gotta have a good attitude, and you gotta- Sure... be willing to do stuff. So you gotta have discipline because you know what the great thing, the crazy thing is?
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Half the time I get up in the morning, I don't wanna do it. Mm. But I do it, right? Because I know I'm looking for the end result.
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So, I mean, now it's both, but I mean, at the end of the day, it's mind, body, spirit, right? I mean, there's a reason why the Bible says that, right? It's because your mind is a disaster if you don't control it.
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I mean, you know it. Mm-hmm. I know it. People run around trying to figure things. It's, it's, it's right here. It's mentality. Yeah. And then that mentality changes the physical, right?
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When you work out 1,000 days in a row, you can structurally change the physique of your, your body. Yeah. Yeah. I've also found you can also change, like, the outcomes that you're, I don't know, experiencing, right?
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The, the situations that you're in, right? All the times I've done 75 Hard, I've felt just, like, the most amazing things ever. Now, I've also found that that can sometimes be an utter distraction, right?
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When I am working out, you know, for three hours a day just doing all these things, right, and they're not doing the things that actually move the ball down the field in the areas that I want to,
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that ability to be like, "Hey, like, I just did this, you know, hard, grueling workout," or maybe it's not hard, but at least you just, you know, did it. Did it.
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And, and then, you know, client cancels or something happens, right? And you're just like, "Okay." Like, that ability to take on something then gives you capacity to allow other things, right?
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Otherwise, if you stub your toe, like, you're, you might be, you know, gone for the rest of the day, right? Versus, you know, you do some sort of, again, workout or even just calming your nervous system, right?
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Coming from a different frame, a different aspect, that then is gonna change how you show up and really also how you respond, right? Which then, again, gives a different outcome.
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I've been doing something similar to 75 Hard, but called it, like, CEO 57. This idea of, like, for 57 consecutive days, like, do these things, right? But just get... Totally, like you're saying, get the workout done.
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Spend 30 minutes or, you know, what the time might be- Right... and just rip it. Do it, right? Yeah. But then also, you know, you're talking a, a lot about delegation, right? So delegate one thing one day, right?
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And then also, you know, eat well, continue to, you know, notice how your body's showing up, right? Maybe you're meditating or visualizing or praying, right? Um, for some amount, you know, of time a day.
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And then certainly also, like, focusing on the things that you need to do. And as a business owner, that is growth, right? Either, you know, grow or kinda die. And, and those are
formed with relationships.
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So how can you reach out to people, right? Either personal relationships, strategic partners, uh, as well as, you know, potential sales. The idea of, like, you're always in sales.
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Now, again, totally like you're saying, you should be, you know, delegating some of that.
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But those things that can really truly help you as a CEO, business owner really expand in all ways, especially if you're a visionary, right?
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If you're constantly having conversations and things come to be, then you can, you know, delegate them, then you can, you know, have people close the relationships and, and work with the relationships that you're building.
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A lot of people, there's some stat of, like, maybe 70%, maybe even higher, are visionaries. When I took the test, I got 82 integrator and 75 visionary. I don't really...
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I, I thought it added up to 100, or maybe I was just expecting that. My point is that, like, I can sometimes just spin my wheels, right?
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Where I'm like, "Let's have this thing, and then let's do it," and then maybe I don't finish it, and then I... It just continues to cycle.
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So for someone who is a predominant visionary, how have you seen, you know, putting the right integrator around you? Like, how did you learn the best integrator for you?
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'Cause, 'cause there's a lot of nuances in it, right? It's not like you're going to the supermarket and you're like, "Oh, let me just get an avocado. Here it is."
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But there was definitely some molding of finding the right integrator for you. Yeah. So I met this guy who was actually on a podcast, and he was- [laughs]... the guy that really started me getting thinking about this.
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Name's Derek, CEO Solutions. Give 'em a shout-out. They're a great corporation. Yeah. The company... And he helped me find my integrator, a COO that I hired for Apex. And I hired this guy, and my life just changed there.
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Then at the exact same time, I hired a business coach, a man that's a little bit older than me- Yeah...
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that can keep me focused, because what I have the problem is, and I heard this term the other day, I don't know if it was from you or yours, but they called it the shiny object syndrome. Oh, yeah. Yep. Yeah.
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And so I'm like, "That's me," right? So that... And that's my, my brother's that way. I have a lot of friends that are that way, 'cause what... You know, we all attract the, kind of the same people. And- Yeah...
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Dave keeps me very focused. Like, I'm selling my cattle, and he, every week when we talk, he's like, "How many cows did you sell? What are you doing?" 'Cause I'm trying to hyper-focus on Larry Dix Inc., Apex Real Estate.
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Mm. And anytime I bring stuff up, he's like, "We're not gonna do that. Through the end of the year, let's stay on..."
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So I've got a person that's holding me accountable that's not my significant other or my wife, 'cause she tells me that, it just pisses me off, right?
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So you gotta find people around you that can hold you accountable, that don't... You know, you're paying them, which obviously- Mm-hmm... you pay them for results. And that was really what changed it for me.
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When I did that, I was like, "My gosh, so now I've got four people." And then I also hired a guy to help me with my health. Mm.
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So he's keeping me eating the right stuff, working on my sleep habits, doing all this kind of... So I've kinda gone the full gamut now in the last, you know, couple of years where I have all these people around me.
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Mm-hmm. And it just changed everything. And it allows you to take your time, which I talk a lot about time- Uh-huh... use it to the best of its ability.
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So it allows me to spend the one to three hours a day working out, praying, sitting in a sauna, doing cold plunges that help me with the other, 'cause I got these other guys helping me, so that when I come out of the chute, by 9:00 I'm ready to roll.
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And that, so that, that's what really did it for me, is I hired people around me to hold me accountable. What is...
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I mean, I'm trying to think of someone who maybe doesn't have that, 'cause, like, for example, I'm in GoBundance, right? You know, tribe of- You know, men who are just living life in, in all capacities, right?
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Like, like we've won in some area, but we really want holistic, but we also want more, right? Like, how do you balance that?
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You know, we have GoPods, we have accountability built into each, you know, GoPod, which is just, you know, call it three to five men meeting each week, right? Almost like board of director style, right?
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And so, you know, things like that are fruitful. But I'm trying to think, like, before I've done 75 Hard, before, um, you know, I was in GoBundance or things like that, like what would someone be thinking of feeling?
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And I think one thing that really comes to mind for me, and I'm curious what comes to mind for you, is like sometimes we have these visions or these ideas or these hopes, right?
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But fundamentally, like the steps that we take then create the distance that we go, right? Which is really just consistency, right? Being
disciplined, creating systems, right?
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Systems don't, you know, care about your feelings, right? And, you know, kind of that James Clear quote.
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But if you don't, like have that, then it's like there's almost like an emotional, like depression or like gap, right? Where- Yeah... you know, for example, even the title of the show. Yeah. Yeah.
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Even the title of the show, like, you know, "Hey, I wanna be worth nine figures." Like amazing, like this is what nine-figure type of individuals do and how they think, how they operate.
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How does, you know, someone who doesn't have accountability in their life, like what, what comes to mind for even maybe your former self that, that didn't really, you know, have that? What were you feeling?
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What were you thinking? How was your life? How was your business? Yeah. That's a, that's an interesting... Boy, that's a deep question because, you know, you spend a lot of time by yourself. Mm-hmm. And I, I did that.
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And you kind of, you know, I think as entrepreneurs, we kind of like, "Oh, I can do all this myself," and we kind of g- almost get in this mode of thinking that half of my or most of my success is because I think I can do it all myself.
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The first thing you gotta do is get that outta your head. You cannot do this by yourself. And even if you don't-- Like right now, I fortunately enough have the resources to go and hire people to do this. Mm-hmm.
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But before that, even then, if you can go through life and have one or two, three really, really good friends, and, and this m- it makes people upset sometimes, it's not gonna be your spouse. Totally.
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And it sh- it sh- shouldn't. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of like if- Yeah.
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You know, I use a, a very poor analogy that, you know, on the farm, but it's, you know, you gotta have one, maybe two people that you can go tell your darkest secrets to- Mm-hmm...
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that, that guy, like for me and you would be a man- Mm-hmm... that he will die with that information in his head. He doesn't go- Yes... back home and say, "Well, you know, you think I'm bad?
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Hell, you should hear what Paul's doing." Yeah. That's not the guy you need. Yeah. And we take that so much 'cause I don't use the word friend lightly. Mm-hmm. I have buddies, I have acquaintances, people I know.
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I have business people that I... But true friends, that's, that really is something that it took me many years to find that person. I was very fortunate that my brother...
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I was very blessed that I have a brother that is like me and him are best friends. He's the guy that, you know, what do they say?
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You, you call him up at two o'clock in the morning, all he needs to know is, "Do I need to bring a shovel?" You know, that's the guy, right? Yeah.
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That's the guy you can say that's gonna go bury the body and he's gonna go to the death for it. Mm-hmm.
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That, that's probably, I mean, as an old guy now and looking back, that's the number one thing you can find, and that's the guy that when you're drinking too much or looking at pornography and you can go in and tell him, he's like, "You're an idiot.
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Stop doing it." And you don't go, "You hurt my f-" It's like, "Thank you for that," right? That's the guy you're trying to find.
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And that's, that's, that's why I say it's deep because as entrepreneurs, I mean, I didn't do that for, I mean, arguably 20 years. I, there, when I went to, when I started Apex, I kinda- Mm...
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thought that I had to do this by myself. Yeah. And it's a, it's a lonely, backbreaking road.
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I mean, you know, there, one of the most impactful conversations I remember having, I mean, it happened to be at a GoBundance event, but basically, um, this guy was, uh, in the process of creating, you know, a family office himself, not really bringing professionals or service providers or a team, you know, around him.
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Um, you know, eight-figure net worth. And he was just like, "My family's not getting it. They're not helping me, but, like, I gotta do this. Like, I have to do this. This has to be created."
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And it was just a conversation of like, "Says who?" And it's like, "Well, this is my belief and the story I'm telling myself." And it's like, "Okay. And, like, d- do other people want this for you too?" Right?
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Um, and it was just like a eye-opening reminder of like, you know, the, it's like the first climb, right? "Hey, I'm, like climbing this mountain, and I gotta do it."
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And, you know, a lot of times when I talk to entrepreneurs about in the, you know, family office space is just, "Okay, like, what if we could bring a helicopter to you and help you climb the mountain?
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Like, would you like to do that?" "No, no, no, no, no. I, I really wanna do this by myself with the, you know, treachery of it," and things like that. And it's like, like, "No help?
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Like you don't even want some walking sticks?" Like type of almost like mentality. But what was that, you know, like? I mean, it seems like, yeah, it was lonely, hard, and difficult. What, what lesson...
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W- uh, what were you thinking, and what kind of lessons were you learning along the way? D- did you believe
that there was a different way to do things or was this the only path that you saw and knew of?
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No, I didn't, I didn't, definitely didn't believe there was another way. I thought that was just the entrepreneurial life. Okay. You know, back then we called it business, guys.
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You know, now it's real cool to be an entrepreneur. I personally don't really like that word much because I think it makes it sound too easy. Mm. Everybody, "I'm an entrepreneur." I'm like, "Really?" You know, "Are you?"
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You know, I... That, that... So for me, it's always just kind of this thing. But back to your original question, I mean, I just thought that was the way it was supposed to be done.
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I just didn't-- 'cause I didn't have a model for that. Mm-hmm. You know, my dad was a, a guy I watched graduate from college.
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I mean, he was a hardworking man, nine to f- you know, 10 to five, you know, nine to five, or he'd work from six in the morning till two o'clock in the morning. That's just what I knew.
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So I didn't really, I didn't truly know any true entrepreneurs when I started Apex by myself. Mm-hmm. And so I just thought that was the way it was supposed to be.
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And if you needed help, it was almost probably, well, not pro- it was a weakness. Yeah. That's what I saw it as. Because if you're an entrepreneur, you have all the answers. Well, you learn.
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I mean, it's not an arrogant thing, it's just you, you... There's-- to be a true entrepreneur, you, you, you're almost naive, right? You just...
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I didn't even realize until I wrote my book, "Born or Made," three years ago, that we were in a recession when I started my business in March of 2000. That's how much I just-- like, failure was not an option.
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Like, I just-- I didn't go in and go, "Oh, I did this business plan," which didn't work, by the way. And it was-- I, I- failure was just never even something I thought about.
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Like, now, I couldn't do today what I did back then, though. Mm-hmm. Because now I'm like, you know, I'm a little more cautious. You know, you just, you don't wanna lose what you have. But that's part of...
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But yeah, I just didn't know any difference. I, I just... And now, like I said, that's why I said, if I would've done this 20 years, 25 years ago, I'd, I know I'd be worth $100 million today.
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No, you couldn't convince me differently, because I would get so much more traction, so much more work done than ever before. Mm-hmm. I mean, I've tried working out. Drinking doesn't work.
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I tried that for about five years, like really hammered down when I was going through, like, the worst economic downturn. You know, when we had the Great Recession that was affected housing. I was...
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Dude, I could power slam a bottle of vodkas with the best of them, you know? I mean, it-- I, so I've done it all, all the stupid shit. Excuse my language. And- Yeah. Totally...
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but yeah, now I'm like, yeah, now I'm like, I never drink 'cause I look, I look back, I'm like, "What did that ever solve?" You know? Sure. I work out every single day. You know, I, I read my Bible.
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I try to do a devotional. I try to pray. I try to eat good. All the stuff that if I would've just done this- Mm-hmm... I would've, I would be more... You know, I, I would have more money.
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I don't know that I'd be more successful 'cause I, I'm, I'm very successful. I have a healthy family. Mm-hmm. You get to be my age now, Paul, yous, like right now, you just...
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I mean, you can drink a 12-pack and go back to work. I drink a 12-pack, it takes me two days to recover, right? [chuckles] So it's just...
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But you know, now I realize that I am going to, you know, prob- not prob- I'm gonna die, right? So, and the runway's- Yeah... a little bit shorter. If I would've done that when I was your age, oh my gosh.
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I mean, I just... 'Cause we get sucked into a lot of this stuff and, "Oh, this is the way we're supposed to do it." Now what I know, I mean, I would do all the things I'm doing now, I would just kill it.
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'Cause I'm killing it now. Mm-hmm. I just, I'm probably only got about 20 more years, but I do believe, I think I said this earlier, I'll do more in the next 20 years than I did the previous 62. I truly believe that.
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I bet. So if I had that mentality now at your age, could you imagine- Oh, yeah... what I could do? Because I feel like I'm just so exci- like I'm so excited even talking to you about it. Like I just- Yeah...
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it's just euphoric. It, yeah. It's, uh, I mean, it's been amazing to think of, yeah, just how people show up with, you know, their, yeah, just passion and, and desire and you just being truly on because they,
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they just are, right? So Kevin Harrington, for example, right, the Shark from original, or original Shark from "Shark Tank," right? I co-authored a book with him. He's 69. That dude has energy, right? Just like yourself.
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And you know, yeah, sure, he'll have a Celsius kinda here and there, right? [chuckles] A little, uh, little caffeine. But like, it is amazing of just how excited things are.
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And a big thing that I've seen from individuals who are, you know, think of a six-figure verse, you
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They delegate things. They work on their highest and best, you know, skill sets that also move the needle.
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I think there's this gap on especially like seven-figure almost mindset where it's like, "Oh, well, once I make, you know, enough money or do this thing, then I get to do whatever I want."
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It's, it's almost like, no, you get to do the things you're absolutely the best at, right? And that's at least what I find a lot of eight-figure entrepreneurs and business owners, right?
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Tend to almost be like, "Well, what's my purpose?" Or like, "What's my meaning?" Or like, "What am I best at?" And then they go through kind of that phase 'cause they've been doing everything, you know, themselves.
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It seems like you kinda went down a, a similar path, right? I'm, I'm curious on for, you know, the like growth you've had, you know, mentally and where you're at today, how do you view, I'll say the word balance?
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And, and why I'm bringing this up is because, you know, I've talked to entrepreneurs who have scaled the companies, right?
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People could walk away from this episode and be like, "Larry's so p- like, yes, let's just do it," right? "Let's go for it."
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And they might be married or, or they might have kids or things like that, and they might just only do, you know, business and basically validate themselves, and frankly not have the opportunity to recognize like what's around them, right?
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"Hey, we just sold the company. You know, here, here's the paperwork. It's finally done." And the age-old, "Hey, yeah, th- amazing to hear.
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Here's my paperwork," and I'm no longer wanting to be like in this marriage and in this family, right? Certainly at your age, you've had, you know, the life to live and, and do these things in all these aspects, right?
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So as we think about someone who, you know, is 20 years ago or maybe even 40 years ago, what do you think that looks like, you know, for them? Is there balance? Is, is it just, you know, becoming better?
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Like what, w- uh, almost like what advice or what stories would you say, would you maybe, you know, relive or change? So the one that... So a couple of things for me.
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Um, I read a book years ago, it really sh- I remember this very distinctly. It said, I, "My biggest fear is I'm gonna meet the man-" Mm-hmm. "... at death that I'm gonna meet the man that I should've been."
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So, or could've been. And so the first thing I think of now, this is what drives me, is I have a purpose, a bigger purpose, something bigger than me.
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So what I do now is I have this incredible passion to supply education for all of my grandchildren, so it's something bigger than me. Mm-hmm. You wanna find the stuff.
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'Cause look, get a jet, get a plane, but then whatever. Th- those are material things that are gonna be gone the day you're here, right? Mm-hmm. The day you leave, it's over.
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Finding things that are bigger than you, whatever that is. And I, and I think it's giving back. Like for me, it's my family. I'm the patriarch of my family, so I take that responsibility very, very serious.
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And so I have a speech coach, you know, I got a guy teaching me how to do public speaking, someone... I write books. I do all this stuff, but I'm, 'cause people say, "Why do you write in a book?"
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Because when I die, everything right here is gone forever. So everything that you know, Paul, unless you write it down- Mm-hmm...
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put it on a piece of paper, most of the stuff that you know no one will ever know, so you should write it down. So I tell everybody, "You should write a book." Things like that. Bigger than you.
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Something bigger, something better. Not better. Bigger than you to have passion towards. Mm-hmm. So my health is bigger, right?
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Because if I can live 20 more years, which put me at 83 years old, at this level of energy, which I believe I can- Mm-hmm... think about what I'll be able to do. So that's bigger than me.
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I'm not, I, so I, yes, I'm trying to make... I wanna live longer 'cause I'm selfish, but I wanna live longer because I wanna leave a legacy for my children, my children's children, right?
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And that- that's what I'm really working towards. So the, the quick answer is find something bigger than you, because at the end of the day, it's not about you. Yeah. It's...
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I'm gonna see if I can remember this quote, "Purpose is not the thing you do, it's the thing that happens in others when you do what you do."
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And I've really been reminded of that, especially as I've done, you know, 75 Hard, right?
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And now I'm posting about, you know, CEO 57, where it's just like, you know, truly you could help others with where they're at and where they're going on their own path, and not that they need to be exactly like you and, and, you know, do all the things you're doing, but it inspires them in different ways.
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Writing the book could maybe inspire them to run a marathon, right? Wow, you're doing that really hard, difficult thing that you have to do, you know,
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Like, huh, that's interesting. If you could do that, I could definitely do this, right? Whether it's, you know, a competition thing or an ego thing or not, but really that piece, right?
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I mean, the same thing can, you know, also be with, with, I mean, amassing wealth.
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I think the big thing that I've found is like, specifically with wealth creation is, is sometimes it can work out just completely different than you expected and better than you could imagine.
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And so it's not the outcome, it's more the idea of the person that you became along the way and the idea, like you said, right? Meeting at the pearly gates, "Hey, this is who you could have been."
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And it really being more of like, how do people talk about, you know, during your eulogy as opposed to how do you talk about in the next, you know, three years, right?
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If you talk in the next three years, you're like, "Oh, hey, I'm gonna do this, this, this, this. It's gonna be so great, so amazing," all this stuff.
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From a eulogy standpoint, it's like, "Oh yeah, he was, you know, patient, he was kind. You know, he always had, you know, time and room, you know, for others," right?
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You know, maybe they reference, you know, the jet, right? He maybe could have had, but probably not. It's more the memories and the connections and the things around it.
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I'm curious for, as you've, you know, had these almost different seasons or different perspectives, you know, how do you involve your family with the process?
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Like, do you share the tough, you know, trials you have during the day? Do you invite them to like celebrate the wins?
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Like what does that look like kind of behind the scenes of involving your family into the, you know, success, the, the business, the things, the real estate? What does that, you know, look like?
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So for me, I, I'm trying to create memories. Memories are movies that people can play over and over in their heads forever, right? As long as they're here.
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So for me, I, I, like this weekend I've got the Born or Made mastermind at my house. So I'm having a big event. I've got a bunch of guys coming in, but guess who what? My kids are gonna be here too. Mm-hmm.
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My grandkids, the, the older ones are gonna be here, stuff like that. So I try to get them involved in that side of it. Um, we take trips together, you know, things like that. So that's really where I get them involved.
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I don't really try to drag them down into the mundane of the business side, but I think probably the number one thing I do now that I think about is I do it based on my actions. Hmm.
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So when they see me, like my, my one granddaughter the other day, I'm outside running. It's 100 degrees. The heat index is about 114.
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I'm running, and this is in the middle of the day and I have a hoodie on, and she comes up and she's like, "Pop," like, "why are you out here running?" And, and she goes, "It's the hottest part of the day."
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And I looked and I said, "Well, granddaughter," I said, "if something bad really were to happen right now, who would you call?" And, and she just see- she knew.
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She said, "You would call me because you know that I could go do what I had to do to get it done." I said, "Because bad things don't happen when the, always when the weather's nice."
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So it's things like that that you can tell those kids at that moment. My granddaughter will probably always remember her crazy grandfather being outside and saying that to her, right? Mm-hmm.
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It's like, uh, Cheryl said something to my wife, right? I've been mar- we've been married 43 years Tuesday. I was tired.
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A Saturday morning I woke up and I actually slept in till like 6:30, which for people on the podcast is like super late for me. Mm-hmm. She goes, "Why don't you take the day off?"
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And I'm like, "Well, honey," I said, "I'm tired." I said, "But if somebody was trying to break into this house right now, would you want me to say, 'Honey, I can't do it. I'm tired.'
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Or would you want me, you would, or would you wanna know that I'm gonna get up and do whatever I have to do to protect my family?"
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And those are the things that I think I try to live for my family, so when they see me doing things, it's through my actions, not necessarily my words. Mm-hmm. But the fact they're...
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I try to just get them involved doing stuff, fun stuff, you know. I, I don't try to drag people down on the stresses that I have of, you know, making payroll or, you know- Sure...
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I owe a vendor, you know, half a million dollars and I gotta figure how to cover it Friday. I mean, stuff like that. I don't, I don't- Yeah... I don't do it, 'cause they don't wanna hear that crap. Yeah.
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And most people don't, Paul, most people don't understand unless you're an entrepreneur. You just pe- the average- Oh, totally...
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guy that works, your buddies that have 9:00 to 5:00 job, they would never understand that, and that's okay. Mm-hmm.
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In some ways I would like to have their job some days, 'cause there's been
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Could you imagine what that would feel like? Yeah, I haven't felt that in a long time. That's right. Yeah. That's right. Um, I was even thinking this morning, right?
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In some ways, you know, thinking of the, of this call where it's just like, hey, like, you know, if, if income or net worth drastically changed, what would I do differently?
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It's like, well, I'd have maybe, you know, different operators, you know, type thing. But other than that, it's like it's the same thing. It's just like maybe how I would do it or who I would do it with.
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Maybe where I would do it, but, you know, probably not. And so truly it's the idea of like living your ideal life and just having those stack and stacking those wins consistently over time.
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Over and over, and that's, that's- Yeah... yeah, I love the stacking wins thing, that concept, because I talk about a lot about this, about 30-day challenge. Mm-hmm.
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So start something for 30 days and then that's a win, right? And then you do that, and then you add on and you keep adding on. If you do that 12 times in a year, you have 12 wins.
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And by the way, you're probably doing 12 very positive things. Yeah. And it doesn't have to be like, oh, I'm gonna work out 45 minutes. Well, just how about, like for me, I, this was my, the one I...
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this is what gave me this idea, was I was struggling with some stuff and I thought, you know what? Bef- as soon as I get out, I get up at 4:00 in the morning.
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The first thing I do now is I put both my feet on the ground every day now, and I've been doing this for over a year. I bow my head and I pray.
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And I don't pray for five minutes and I don't say, "Oh," I'm just like, "Hey- Good morning, God. You know, it's Larry, your broken son. You know, I wanna be a man like David, a man after God's own heart. Mm.
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And, uh, you know, try to pray for some people if I know are sick, just whatever. Right now mine is surrender. I'm trying to figure out how to surrender. Hmm.
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Well, if you do that for 30 days, what bad's gonna come out of it? Hmm. And it took me... It's, I mean, if I'm praying for 30 seconds, I'd be amazed.
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Do you know, after doing that for over a year now, I've not missed a single day, and I feel better. Like, I don't know why. I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and try to get all philosophical on you, but it's a win, right?
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So it gets you- Yeah... a little just kinda... What I'm doing is I'm setting the tone, because how many times, Paul, do you wake up 4:00 in the morning and bing, that thing starts churning.
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The next thing you know, you got all, all this stuff going on, right? Am I gonna make this? Am I gonna do this? What do I gotta do? You know, you're stressing about whatever.
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But if you can just take 30 seconds, put your feet on the ground, you reset, and then you, you s- you start taking the next step forward.
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Now, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I don't go in there and look at my bank account as soon as I get in the bathroom- Sure... but, you know, trying to just make sure all my stuff's covered.
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But the wins, I love the stacks. I just think, I don't think we, I don't think guys sell that enough. So when you t- when you talk about that, Paul, tell everybody that. I mean, I, I- Yeah...
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I, third, 12 wins in a year, how awesome is that? And it could just be like, "Sid, I, I'm gonna walk 10 minutes every day." It's, it's still positive. Yeah.
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And it, um, I mean, a- and we were talking about this a little bit before the show, but also, you know, habit stacking too, right?
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And it's like, "Hey, I gotta do this, you know, interview," or, "I gotta do this other thing," or, "Hey, maybe I'm hanging out with my family." Like, well, hey, like, let's do, you know, fitness and, right?
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You know, this is then, at least what I talk about, is like the family office mindset, where it's, you know, not just one plus one equals two, but it's like one plus one equals 11, and the ability for like yes and or yes and plus.
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Mm-hmm. And those types of things that stack, that's when you get true trajectory. And it's not necessarily like working harder, right? It's not necessarily like more difficult.
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What does your like, I don't know, day or maybe like nervous system, you know, look like, right? 'Cause that's one thing I found is like we can have discipline, we can have consistency.
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Again, as I've done, you know, 75 Hard, I mean, there were times where I was just absolutely flipping exhausted, and I still got the deeds done in the day, but, you know, maybe I tweaked something slightly 'cause, you know, I wanna, you know, be mindful of my health.
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But maybe that was just that voice talking to me, and it's like, "Nah, you can like pause a little bit or do some other things."
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What I've found, at least for myself and where, you know, I'm at, where it's just like it's a little bit more on the nervous system than necessarily like the rigor and potential, meaning I could dream up some crazy things in my mind.
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Now, that doesn't happen to me, but I'm just like thinking of that sort of person, where it's like, well, how do you do that? And it's not like the tactical. Like tactically, right, we can really understand that.
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But emotionally, spiritually, um, I don't know, maybe it's winding down, you know, be- before the night, but I'd also think it's like how you approach your day.
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It seems as though by setting the tone in your day of being very calm and aligned and intentional, you're only focusing on the things that are effectively like in- intuition, like coming to you, right?
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As opposed to effectively, and I, you know, a list, right, of things of like, oh, I gotta contact all these people and do all these things and stuff, and I only have two hours.
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That's a different sort of energy, right, throughout the day. I'm probably gonna have to calm down just from, you know, just from that. What does that look like, you know, for you?
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Have you mastered that or are you still, you know, working through what that's like? No, I, I feel like I've mastered it for, for me.
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So the, the, you know, the real early morning stuff, I've, I pushed it back to 5:00 'cause I've, what I've learned through this process is I, I gotta get, I don't get enough sleep. Okay.
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And that, in effect, I'm learning about the nervous system, right, and how that affects all your stuff.
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So but for me, you know, like this morning, 5:00 AM, I'm up, you know, do my prayer, get in there, get dressed, put my workout clothes on. I get- I've, I've got very regimented mindset. So I, I turn my coffee on.
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I drink my lemon water. I'm doing this process, but then by the time I'm done, then I sit out and I sit out on my porch. You know, I live on a farm, right? Mm-hmm.
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They call them farms here, not Virginia, and they don't call them ranches. But- [laughs] Not even in Texas? Yeah. Yeah. Not like in Texas. And so, and then I spend a good hour just chilling out.
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I, I just start my day that way now. I don't, and I do not deviate from that.
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Even, even when I travel in this workout regimen and everything, I am going to do the same process because what I've learned is it gets me started and kinda sets the tone.
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Because a lot of times we as entrepreneurs get up and we just hit the hamster wheel, right? Well, I have- Mm-hmm... really dialed that down. I'm like, "You're not gonna get into my hour, hour and a half."
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So what I had to do is I had to drop... So that's why, you know, you think, "Oh damn, he's crazy getting up at 4:00." Yesterday I got up at 4:00 'cause I had to be on a podcast. Mm-hmm.
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So I just am not going to, I do not sacrifice that. So if I'm even traveling, if I, if I've got a meeting at 7:00, I will get up at 3:00 in the morning that day- Hmm. Okay... to not allow that.
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And the analogy that I use is this, and remember this. So think about I do this. So I'm gonna go get up at 4:00, let's just say, 'cause that's the number I usually use typically.
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4:00, I'm gonna spend a minimum- Minimum... of an hour, hour and a half. So by 6:00, let's just say by 6:00, I go to the gym. Mm-hmm. And then I'm gonna work out, and then I'm gonna cold plunge.
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I'm gonna work out, then I'm gonna... You know, I've already done my prayer and then, or not my prayer. Then I read my Bible. I do my daily devotional. I do all, and then I get into my sonnet.
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Then I sp- and that's where the struggle comes, is I try to pray for 20 minutes, which is like brutal. Like it's so hard. Mm-hmm.
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But my point of this all is, so even if when I travel, if I start this at 3:00 in the morning, by the time you, Paul, get your butt up- Mm-hmm... I'm just gonna use you 'cause you're on the screen, right? Yeah.
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Tell me... and come at me, buddy, you better bring your freaking A game because this old man has already got everything set up, and I use the term the foundation. So you come- Hmm...
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at me, my foundation is already so strong. Mm-hmm. Y- I, I just... And it gives me power, right? Mentally, it gives me security, strength to understand that you can't beat me, and it gives me that mindset.
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So that's what I drive towards every day. You know, being 5'7"-... a little skinny little dude. I mean, I gotta have a little bit a, little bit a cockiness to me, right? Or it'll be able...
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But when I walk in the room, you will look at me and go, "That is one of the fittest 63-year-old guys I've ever seen in my entire life." So what is that? That's a calling card. It sets the standard.
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But you're hitting me at 8:00, I've already been up for four hours. Yeah. And I've done this, this, this, this, this, and that. So that is my superpower now.
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And I know going in that I know when I go in, even if it was, you know, Kevin O'Leary- Mm-hmm... he's gonna have to bring his... 'Cause what I probably know about him is he's probably been up four hours too.
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And so- And so it just, it gives me a
huge advantage, Paul, mentally knowing that when I come in there, the odds are when I walk into a room of 100 men- Mm-hmm... there's nobody been up as long as I have.
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And it's not an arrogance, it's just a confidence. It's just- Right? It's because this, uh, so much of this crap is our, is, is confidence. You know, my biggest- Yeah...
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struggle in life, biggest struggle in life has been my lack of confidence. Mm. What, what has then formed it or created it? My original lack of confidence was that I didn't go to college.
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I got out of high school, graduated 142 out of 147 in my class. I, I bought a dog when I was 15 years old. I named it Million. I was gonna be a millionaire. Now, I didn't go around- Yeah...
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telling everybody that, but in my head, that was my mindset. Sure. And when you get out, everybody's like, "Oh, you didn't go to college?"
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Well, well by the time I'm 26, I'm running a manufacturing company, half the guys working for me go, are college graduates from the University of Texas. Mm-hmm. Right?
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But they worked for me because I had a chip on my shoulder, right? So I knew that I had... So when I got in the office in the morning, I beat the CEO there, and I was there when he left.
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That was part of my game that I played with myself and people around me. So they knew Dix was there early, Dix was there late. Well, guess what?
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When things got tight and they need to cut people, you think they're gonna cut me? No. Mm-mm. They're gonna keep me 'cause they know I'm willing to work. Mm-hmm. Those are the games that I played, you know, with myself.
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But yeah, it was just...
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And then I, I, I did not get confidence, I mean, really probably almost 60 years old when I wrote that book and I, and I realized what Dix had done his entire life, is I had focused on the gap and not- Mm. Yeah...
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the game. Now I focus on the game, not arrogantly. Yeah. I don't dwell on the fact that I did this or this and that. And I think so many of us get stuck in that, and now I do not do that. Yeah.
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And there is- Fair enough... now think if I would've done that 35 years ago. Totally. Yeah. But- Yeah... what can I do for the next 20 years? I'll kill it. 'Cause again- Fair...
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I walk in the room, I'm 63 years old, there is not a guy on the, in any room I walk in that's 63 is in better shape than me. Yeah. Period. It's, it, it's great to, there...
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It's not even a quote, it's, it's something I sort of reflected on, where it's that if someone were to ask, "Hey, can you lift, you know, a 20 pound dumbbell like 20
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And, and I've done it 1,000, so yes, I, I can, right? And so, you know, confidence builds from, you know, consistency and knowing that you, you know, can and believing that it's, you know, possible, right?
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That's really how at least I've found, you know, confidence for, for myself. It's just- And then it's the things that it's like-... it's all these other things you build on... yeah, yeah.
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And then, and then it's like, well, I trust myself here and here, like, how can I trust myself here? And, and there's...
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I'm not sure how to formulate it right now, but it's almost just like there's, can I only trust my confidence after I do something and I've done it a ton?
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Or can I trust my intuition and my sense of belief and sense of reality of if it is, you know, possible or realistic for me to, you know, do it, right? There's some things that don't make sense.
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I'm not gonna go out for the NFL, right? That would just be utter arrogance and ego, right?
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And so really having a good sense of, like, reality, if you will, but also the, you know, delusion to say, hey, like, it is totally possible, especially for men of faith.
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Like, if I'm called to do this, then it will certainly happen in his timing. And so how can I show up, you know, today with, again, what we're talking about for, you know, being just that type of person, right?
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Being that type of person who can lead a, you know, nine-figure company or have a nine-figure net worth or these different aspects, right? Or, you know, even eight, even seven type of things.
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Like, that's really where, just like you said, the foundation is. And it's not necessarily a quote, but it, it was some video or something.
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It basically was along the lines of like, men sometimes don't ask like, um, you know, how you're doing to like see how you're really doing.
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It's, it's really more of like, "Hey," like, "can I trust you when things get hard?" Both for myself and the situation, right? Think of just animalistic times and going to war of like, "Hey," like, "how are you doing?"
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Like, "Hey, I'm, you know, doing great learning, um, how to not run a company," right? As opposed to, "Hey," like, "my company's in utter turmoil," and things like that, right?
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Again, that energy, how you're showing up, how you're leading, how you're connecting people, living in the highest and best version of yourself.
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Those are things at least that I've seen, that I've been around those who have had the
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And some people may not have those things because that may not be important to them, or they may not have the business model or things like that. And so not making it, you know, all about our identity and life.
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And that's okay. Yeah, exactly. That's okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's okay. Yeah. I think as long as you're being true to yourself and you are being the... I mean, this is where I, being the best version of you- Mm-hmm...
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it doesn't matter. I know guys that make a tenth of what I make that are happier than me. Yeah. And that's okay, right? That, that's the thing.
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I mean, it's not, like you're not a bad guy for trying to be a, you know, having a 10-figure or nine-figure business, and nor should I be. Mm-hmm. Right?
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But yeah, don't hate me for that any more than I would hate you for because you're making, you know, $90,000 as a school teacher- Yeah... and the fricking happiest person I've ever met in my life. Yeah.
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I think it's awesome. Like, I don't... 'Cause I tell people the same thing. This is something I've, I've been saying for years. If you're an asshole, I don't care how much money you make. Totally.
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I'm not gonna hang out with you. So 'cause your money, Paul, you could be worth $100 million. If I was hanging out with you down in Austin next, in October- Yeah... and you're an asshole, I ain't coming back. Yeah.
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Yeah... right? I don't care how much money you got. I just like hanging out with really cool people that are fun, that, like my, a bunch of my buddies are coming over on Saturday- Yeah...
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that are really good at shooting guns. [laughs] And I'm very jealous, you know? So they have... You know, everybody has something to offer. Sure.
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Like, I've got a buddy of mine right now, we're doing 1.5 million meters on our- Okay... rowers. We're gonna bust a million- Yeah... this month. And- Just this month? Like, that's the goal for this month? No.
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No, God, no. No. It's for... But we're gonna bust through a million in August. Okay. And that'll put us well on our way to the 1.5, 'cause I'm frustrated- Yeah... 'cause me and him, we're both...
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This guy was a D1 athlete, all-state in four, four different events, just a great athlete. Sure.
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He gets on the rower, he cranks out 10,000 meters like, you know, you and I walk down to the corner and get a, you know, some ice cream or whatever. And, but me and him are ba- pounding it out together, you know?
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And he's one of those guys that I just love being around. Hmm. And because he's trying to... And he's a very man, deep man of faith, trying to figure stuff out, trying to do all this stuff, and he's just the...
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He's, he's one of my be- well, arguably one of my best friends. Yeah. And he's the guy I call and say, "Hey, man, bring your shovel." Yeah. Yeah. That's cool, right? Yeah. That's the fun stuff. But he's retired.
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He's 63 years old, he's already freaking retired. For, as, as a man of faith, I would then say, you know, challenge him, like, where in the book does it talk about retirement, right?
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It only talks about serving to different levels for different people. And I've also seen that with business too, right? Where it's, you know, hey, like, how are you...
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Are you serving your customers or are you selling them, right?
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Are you trying to make the next dollar so that you can, or you provide value to others to help them solve their problems and, you know, money is, is that sort of exchange.
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Well, his great thing is he's gonna ride his bike for the third time. So he serves others by giving back and all this stuff- Okay... that he does for people like me. He's really, we're really good...
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He's riding his bike from Canada to Mexico. Well, he rode it the first time, it took him 34 days. The last time, he did it in 28 days. And this is a mountain bike, by the way.
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And it's that trail, whatever, it's cra- he's trying to do it in 28 days. 28 days, 3,500 and something miles. Do the math on that. They're, uh- Very badass... I, it's, it's fa- yeah.
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I mean, in some ways it just sets the standard for how... Yeah. Who we're around, how we think. I mean, I initially wasn't gonna do...
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I never would've thought of doing 75 Hard, but my w- late brother passed from alcohol abuse for a series of five years, and I wanted to do something to honor him, and so as part of the 75 Hard Challenge, it was not drinking for 75 days.
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I didn't really have a problem with alcohol, but, like, it still... But what I found is, like, it was for someone else, and I did more than I thought I, like, could have, right?
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And then also I had people around me, right? Again, you know, GoAbundance is coming up a lot, just transformational group, but, but even just, like, yourself, right?
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Where it's just like, that was the standard, and it's like, yeah, you just do it. It's like, what do you mean? Like, that's craziness. You, you do all these things. It's like, yeah, and? Like, what, what's your question?
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And it's like- Yeah. What, what's the point? It, like, I...
Okay.
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You know, not to say it's, like, part of, like, being formed to be a man, but I think it's just more of, like, truly what you said, of, like, being more of that type of individual who can, and I think that's really that difference maker regardless of size of company or net worth or what you may have or, or, you know, family.
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It's just like, you can be gentle, kind. You can also be consistent. You can be then determined, right?
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And then you can also just absolutely execute and blow things out of the water and do things that make absolutely no sense of why on earth would you do that? And it's like, because I can, right?
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That level of confidence is, I mean, in a lot of ways addictive, but is also transformational. For sure. For sure. It, it, it... So I, I, I love that j- I'm sorry to chime in, 'cause that... But addictive personality.
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I mean, I have interviewed so many people, and my one buddy, he w- he was an, he was addicted to c- uh, cocaine. Okay. And, and same thing.
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You get these guys, I found out addicts, alcoholics, whatever, addictive people- Sure... I have a very addictive personality- Yeah... and d- some dyslexic people.
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If you get those people channeled in the right direction, they're almost unstoppable people, because they can hyperfocus.
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The, the brain channels in on the same way it did with alcohol, drugs, whatever, whatever it is, right? And they're amazing people.
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I find so many people later in life that are n- that, like me, that don't drink, they're, they're maniacs. Like, they're, they're intense people. [laughs] And it's because they, they wasted all that time.
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And they were good at... I mean, I was really good at drinking. Yeah. Sure, yeah. Really good, actually. I was really good. I'd get up in the morning.
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I would drink so much at night, I'd get up the next morning, I'd go do CrossFit for an hour just to prove that I didn't have a drinking problem. And I would do that for, like, I did that for a co- several years. Hmm.
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I'm the only guy in there hungover, and I'd be just going, "Eh, I don't have a drinking problem." You know? That's the same thing, so. Yeah. I mean, ch- I mean, yeah. Just, like, what we talked about, channeling energy.
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Channeling energy, baby. Yeah. You'll, you'll certainly love, uh, the people out here in Austin, as, as you know, right? Um, a lot of people just, uh, yeah, moving and shaking.
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From your brand, what you're working on today, like, leaving the show, what, where can people connect with you? Um, you shared a, you know, a little bit about the book. What are you working on?
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I mean, tell us more about what some of the- Yeah. So-... things you're doing... doing my first mastermind this weekend called the Born or Made Mastermind in A- it actually in Fredericksburg, Virginia.
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Got a bunch of guys coming in from all over the country to do that with me. Really excited about that. That's my first event. Just wanted to see how I li- if I would like it or not. Cool.
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We do the Born or Made podcast, which we have, I think we're at about 123 episodes we've already posted. Amazing. So we're very serious about that. Be in Stanford next week doing nine more in one day up there.
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First book I wrote was Born or Made. The second one is Built Not Born. Those are, you can find on Amazon. Larry GDicksii, which just because that's my last name, larrygdickstheii.com- Yeah...
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or the bornormadepodcast.com. You can get in touch with us. We do a lot of coaching for some, you know, high-level, uh, individuals. We really enjoy that part of our business. Awesome. And then apextrust.com.
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We build a lot of trusts in Virginia and, and, uh, Maryland. So, and that's it. You can get ahold of us and we'll, we will get back in touch with you. Yeah, you can find him some way. Larry, thanks for coming on.
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Not only appreciate your time and perspective and yeah, just energy. I'm thinking about, you know, the 4:00 AM, 5:00 AM sort of mornings, right? But, you know, that's what I did this morning, right?
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Of I was like kinda beat myself up of like, man, like I s- kinda spent an hour just like lollygagging around, but I'm realizing more and more of like how beneficial that is.
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And instead of like more sleep, and I get good sleep, but like instead of like more sleep, like I might actually need to be up and be, you know, prepared for the day and be vigilant and process maybe emotions or things or what have you, and then go execute, right?
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So appreciate your story as it hit home for me, and would think others as well. Thanks, Paul. Have a great day. You too, brother.
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