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and I got to do all kinds of you know, all the fun stuff in the in the winter. 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:58.319 So I loved that, and then we moved back to Pensacola because my dad kept getting promoted, and uh, I was a little jock, you know, when I was young. 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:01.840 I was a football player, played basketball, yeah. 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:06.560 And um, and so I was all and my brother was the Elton John. 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:10.319 I had no no one had any indication that I was gonna be musical. 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:21.520 Oh wow, because he was seven years older than me, and uh and he I just I would stand by him and sing with him, but he was this monster on the piano, just uh oh that's cool, yeah. 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:22.879 That's really cool. 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:39.759 So he turned me on to music, you know, singer-songwriters of the day, and then my mom was an English lit teacher growing up and drama, so that's kind of where that first direction I took was drama, but anyway, she would teach her students um through music. 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:46.000 She would take albums to school and you know, use the literature and the and the actual songs to teach them. 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:52.319 So I was kind of brought up with all that, and uh, so this music was living in me and no one really knew it. 00:02:52.400 --> 00:03:02.479 You know, it was just because I was a little twerp that liked to play football, and my brother just wanted to get rid of me, but uh so all that was kind of hiding underneath the whole time. 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:03.280 I gotcha. 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:05.120 So that was my that was my early years. 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:10.159 Then we moved back to to Florida, and I thought I was gonna be the quarterback. 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:13.199 You know, I thought I'd just carry on that when I went down. 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:16.400 But they already had a Woody Bradshaw down there. 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:19.360 That was that sounds that sounds like a football name. 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:21.360 It does, you know, Woody Bradshaw. 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:23.280 You gotta love that. 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:24.000 I love that name. 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:24.639 Yeah. 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:27.439 So anyway, and I they kind of rejected me. 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.479 They didn't even let me pass the ball when I tried out, so I quit. 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:33.039 My mom begged me, she said, Woody, don't quit. 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:36.319 It's uh, you know, it'll set a bad precedent in your life. 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.039 And I was like, forget it, mom, I'm quitting. 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:44.159 And so I let a year go by, and plus I was a freshman, so the girls weren't interested in me either. 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:46.159 They were always going for the older guys. 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:48.639 So I wasn't used to any of this. 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:54.400 And then by um junior year, I found I thought I'll

try out for the tennis team. 00:03:54.960 --> 00:04:04.400 And uh so I did, and they only needed six to play, and but they needed eight on the team, so I made it by the just by default, I was number eight. 00:04:04.639 --> 00:04:16.000 Oh wow, yeah, and so I didn't see any action, and then then that that summer after, my best friend he was number one, and so we played every day over the summer. 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:18.000 So the next year I was number two. 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:21.680 And oh wow, yeah, and and wait a minute, who was this with? 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:24.079 Who is it with? 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:25.759 No, you said Tennessee, right? 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:27.439 Or no, no, tennis. 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:28.800 Tennis, I gotcha. 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:29.600 No, I'm sorry. 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:32.399 No, I've got tennis. 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:34.879 I'm getting old and I can't hear very well. 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:35.920 That's the problem. 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:38.480 I'm sorry, I gotcha. 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:39.519 All right, so tennis. 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:39.839 All right. 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:44.800 I tried out for tennis and didn't, like I said, didn't even play one match. 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:49.120 Then over the summer, me and my best friend, who was number one, we played all summer. 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:50.319 The next year I was number two. 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:53.120 So I was just waiting to find the sport, right? 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:54.879 And I got really mad at my dad. 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:58.160 I was like, why didn't you put a racket in my hand when I was a kid? 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:07.120 And so anyway, and and so I ended up getting a scholarship uh from the tennis, which was kind of you know, I was so new at it. 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:07.839 Yeah, yeah. 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:15.920 But um, but anyway, so then I went to college on a on a tennis scholarship, and then that's kind of where theater, I found theater then. 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:18.000 We didn't have anything like that in high school. 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:19.439 Oh, I gotcha, I got you. 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:22.959 What did um you said your dad kept getting promoted? 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:24.160 What did he do? 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:26.800 Yeah, my dad, he was uh he was a monster. 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:28.480 He was uh in a good way. 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:47.680 In a good way, he was a he he was started as a chemist in Pensacola, and you know, he's one of these, you know, he came from kind of the opposite side of the tracks and and didn't have a lot of money growing up, and then he got a scholarship in football and got the GI Bill and went to the army and all that. 00:05:47.759 --> 00:06:01.920 And oh wow, uh they found out how brilliant he was, and so with all these tests, and so he became a chemist, and then usually when you start out as a chemist, you retire one, and uh he was one of these just a born leader, 6'4. 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:08.480 I'm I'm 5'10, so I don't know what happened, but very domineering John Wayne kind of guy. 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:09.600 I love that. 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:16.959 He uh he just kept solving problems that weren't supposed to be solved, and then he was more of a leader, and so he just kept getting promoted. 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.639 He ended up being the president of Armstrong internationally. 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:24.240 No kidding, wowing in a yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:25.920 Wow, and so he had a great career. 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:31.120 He ended up winning the Malcolm Baldridge Award, which would be like me winning the Grammy, you know. 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:32.879 Yes, no, absolutely. 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:33.360 Wow. 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:35.920 He was honored by Clinton at the White House. 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:39.759 He he gave and uh he was there for two and a half hours and he came back. 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.800 He said, he said, damn it, I really like that guy. 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:48.480 He said, I wish we were a Republican, but some of the bitches charming. 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:56.639 Well, hey, you know, I don't know what to tell you, but uh that that's quite the honor, and that is that is really cool. 00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:06.160 And uh, you know, was uh performing obviously that was already somewhere inside you, but uh or did you do no? 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:07.120 That was inside you. 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:12.319 That's where you went to college, and the performing bug was like there for you, correct? 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:13.120 Yeah, yeah. 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:18.240 Yeah, I went to theater, like I said, and then I yeah, yeah, and I was raised, you know, in films. 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:19.839 I I watched films with my mom. 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:23.439 She took me to stuff that I was probably too young for, but I got it. 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:32.399 You know, I was one of these deep kids, you know, and even the music side, like I could listen to I remember our friends came in about I think it was MacArthur Park. 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:34.720 It was one Jimmy Webb, they brought this that up. 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:36.319 Oh my god, with Jimmy Webb? 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:37.120 Oh my gosh. 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:37.680 Oh my gosh. 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:40.480 He's one of the heroes, he's one of my somebody's heroes. 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:41.600 Absolutely. 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.720 And they were like, I don't get the green icing in the rain. 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:46.319 I was like, Don't you get it? 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:47.839 It's the love you'll never have. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.399 I'm like a little eight-year-old, you know. 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:56.079 You know, you're eight years old, and you're saying that, you know, and somebody left the cake out in the rain. 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:58.319 And yeah, yeah, but you get it. 00:07:58.560 -->

00:08:00.560 I got all that stuff early on. 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:09.759 So so yeah, this I had this depth, and I it as far as feelings and all that kind of stuff, and and acting was a natural kind of pursuit. 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:15.439 And then I I went to Florida State after that, after the small school, did not make a team there. 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:20.959 I tried out and got got whooped, but that's where I I ended up going to the theater. 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:23.120 The theater side of things, sure, sure. 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:31.439 I was gonna I was gonna minor in it and and major in communications, but when I walked over to the theater building, I just had this feeling like this is it. 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:38.399 And then I had a lot of um mentors, like the you know, the professors there saw it in me too. 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:43.200 And so, you know, I just kind of flourished immediately in that kind of thing. 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:47.600 But then you headed to New York shortly thereafter, right? 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:48.799 Did I read that right? 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:52.960 I was I was you know trying to do a little homework because I knew I was gonna be talking to you. 00:08:53.200 --> 00:09:00.080 And it said something about you going to New York and uh you landed some work on an ABC daytime drama. 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:04.080 Can you take uh take me back to that Woody Bradshaw back then? 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:07.039 And what did you think your life was gonna look like? 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:14.639 Well, that's that's funny because yeah, when I went to FSU, I thought, you know, I'll I'll get to really dive in and get known there. 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:18.879 And and I just made the BFA, which was a huge deal to make that. 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:22.799 It's kind of the upper echelon in Florida State, and they put a lot of money. 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:24.639 That's kind of like the Yale of the South. 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:26.720 And uh, so I just made that. 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:29.759 And on spring break, I was going to New York to visit. 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:37.200 Um, and my parents had these friends that live there and they knew everybody, they knew all the big like Woody Allen and oh, how cool. 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:45.440 This big this big manager, and so they got an introduction to this manager who he handled um Tennessee Williams. 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:53.279 That was his claim to fame, and then he he um he managed Pacino and Raquel Welch. 00:09:53.679 --> 00:10:00.000 But he took time to meet me and he did the whole when I walked in, like the he got it, you know. 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:01.440 Yeah, no, exactly. 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:01.840 Wow. 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:05.360 And and he he dissuaded me from going back to school. 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:10.720 He said, I said, well, when I finish college, I'm gonna come back up here, and then I'd I'd love to be. 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:12.320 He said he'd

represent me even. 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:20.240 And uh, but he said, You he said, Well, Woody, if you want to get a degree and teach acting, then go ahead and finish at Florida State. 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:25.519 If you want to study with the best teachers in the world, you need to come here now. 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:28.159 And so I it was no, it was a no-brainer. 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:29.440 So come here. 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:31.120 Didn't fight me that much. 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:32.720 They they believed in me. 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:37.120 And uh and he didn't really do that much when I went to New York. 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:42.240 Um he kind of, you know, he kind of sat on his hands, you know. 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:46.480 It was one of those promises, and and so I just did stuff on my own. 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:53.919 I I I knew I needed a headshot, and I had a little tiny, tiny little resume, and I knew where the soap operas were. 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.720 And I but you got the gigs, you got the gigs. 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:57.679 That's pretty cool. 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:04.240 And I didn't, you know, and I really never wanted to do soaps because I I thought they were smaller somehow. 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:17.679 And but that's where I knew to go, and you just handed your your headshot, you know, to uh a guard, and then I would call them all, you know, I just leave a message, and I would end it like I'm green, but I'm good. 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:20.159 You know, that was kind of I thought I was being funny. 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:23.120 You had but you had a lot of confidence in yourself. 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:25.440 Now I think you've got to have that confidence. 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:27.840 I mean, if you only have confidence, you're gonna get knocked down. 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.679 You stood up, you said, Hey, I'm great, and rightfully so, I can do this. 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:35.519 I'll tell you another weird thing that happened there that that made me so confident. 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:40.960 Yeah, is I actually that that those friends that my parents do took me to church. 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:43.039 It was Norman Vincent Peel. 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:43.840 Remember him? 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:45.200 Absolutely. 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:51.200 Power positive thinking, and yeah, and I went to that church and I and I begrudgingly went. 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:52.799 I really didn't grow up in that. 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:57.039 My parents, I used to go to church at my grandparents, and I really loved it. 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:03.440 But we just my dad didn't, he kind of had a thing about the church from something that happened to him, I think. 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:12.960 But when I went finally went to this service, uh it blew me away because it was all the stuff I was feeling was about you know bravery, courage. 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:18.240 And so when I moved there, I just became a member and read all his books. 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:20.320 And so I was like a little like this. 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:30.480 Um I liken it to being like a you know, some guy on a tribe in an island, and the Bible falls, and I just believed every word. 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:39.679 So I just felt you know ordained to do great things, and and sure enough, I think that's a big reason why success came me quickly. 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:47.759 What were um finally got one person called me back from those messages I left, and it was one person, yeah, one of them. 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:55.919 And they go, Well, you look you look like the part, and we heard your voice on this machine, you sound right, so we want to audition you. 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:01.360 And I didn't have an agent, she called me directly, it was the casting director, which is unheard of. 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:03.519 And I didn't I did not get it. 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:04.960 I got screen tested twice. 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:16.480 They couldn't decide between me and this uh people, then two of us, and I had to go home for Thanksgiving and uh come back and then you know do the second audition. 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:18.799 And anyway, I did not get that one either. 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:22.639 They it was he was blonde, I was brunette, but they loved me in it. 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:25.919 They said, We're gonna make a a tryst out of this. 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:30.879 We're gonna have you against that guy and a love triangle kind of thing. 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:31.759 Oh, geez. 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:37.519 So two months later, they yeah, they they made a role for me, and then I got two national commercials. 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:40.879 I think because I was so happy, you know. 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:43.759 I just went into these commercials like couldn't care less. 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:44.480 Right. 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:45.679 It's attitude. 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:46.399 I love that. 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:50.159 Yeah, so you know, it it draws uh what is it? 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:51.759 It's kind of karma, you know. 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:53.759 Yeah, no, exactly, exactly. 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:54.559 Yeah, yeah. 00:13:55.360 --> 00:14:00.879 Um, you know, how difficult is it to actually make a living as an actor? 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:09.759 Well, it's very I learned the hard way because I thought this is the beginning, you know, this is just how I saw it in my little mind. 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:14.559 And and then I got a I did get a big another big manager from that. 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:16.799 Um was that Jerry? 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:19.200 And he Jerry, yeah, you did your homework. 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:20.639 Uh yeah, I did my homework. 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:21.200 That's awesome. 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:21.679 I did. 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.960 But tell us about Jerry and who he was uh associated with. 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:28.000 Well, Jerry, he he discovered Tom

Cruise. 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:31.600 He's the one that went to a little high school production in New Jersey. 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:32.639 That somebody told me. 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:35.600 By the way, Tom Cruise was born here. 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:36.799 We're in Syracuse. 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.440 So this I mean Tom, I'm in I am in his old neighborhood. 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:41.840 Yep. 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:42.799 Wow, exactly. 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:43.279 That's right. 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:44.480 I knew he was from up there. 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:44.960 Yep. 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:51.440 He might have only been here like two days, but he's still from no, I don't know, but I know he was born in the queues. 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:52.480 Yeah, so yeah. 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.720 So uh anyway, and Jerry had heard about me through my this agent. 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:00.480 Oh, the other thing is I got an agent right away just when I was getting screen tested. 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:04.480 I was like, who's everybody kept saying there's this kid got screen tested? 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:14.000 So I kind of had my pick of agents, and then this one, this the one I went with, she said, There's this manager, I've been holding you off from him because he'll steal you. 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:19.519 And then she was starting her own child's management, and she said, I'm gonna let you go now so you can go. 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:23.440 His name is Jerry Silverheart, and he he discovered Tom Cruise. 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:31.120 And so I met Jerry and he was he was awesome, he was like an old Jewish mother type of guy, you know, oi ve, you know. 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:34.559 And he was like, Oh yeah, the next Tommy. 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:37.759 And uh, so anyway, it was it was cool. 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:46.159 And I he pulled me from that soap, which I kind of regretted now because um that soap, it was tough, you know. 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:56.240 That's that's tough work because it's the material is not as good, you know, it's written every day, and so that's where it's good chops for an actor just to make that come to life, you know. 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.799 Would we have seen that soap? 00:15:58.960 --> 00:15:59.679 What was it? 00:15:59.919 --> 00:16:02.879 Yeah, it was called Loving at the time on ABC. 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:04.799 It was before all my children. 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:10.159 I gotcha, and um and then it turned into the city before it went off the air. 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:11.360 I gotcha, I got you. 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:17.200 And so anyway, but he saw, he said, I see you doing films, and I see you being really, you know, something. 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:19.759 And that was what my dream was and what I saw. 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:26.639 And so he took me to LA, and uh and right away I was kind of um lost. 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:33.840 I I love New York that that energy to me, it was like being in a war every day, like life or death, right? 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:40.000 Right in a good way, you know, and I'm gonna country nowadays we may think differently, but go ahead. 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:40.879 Yeah. 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:46.480 And but the energy is just so palpable, and and I just love that. 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:56.000 And then in LA is the opposite, it's so spread out, and there are no smells, there's no like uh I don't know, it smells like fog and steel, and that's it, yeah. 00:16:56.159 --> 00:17:04.640 And yeah, and there's you know, just nothing to and you're on a five-lane highway, the 405, you know, sitting in traffic for god knows how long. 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:06.880 I got friends out there, I hear about it all the time. 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:11.759 So yeah, there's no it just doesn't feel it's just so spread out, it just doesn't feel like it ends. 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:18.000 So you don't feel like you're in one city, it just feels so and I was pretty open about that. 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:41.200 I I just wasn't crazy about it, you know, thinking I'm being honest, but other age agents they were like, he didn't seem very happy here, and so that's when I kind of started going inward, and um and I I kept thinking about my brother who was you know such an influence on me, and um and I just I just started writing poetry, you know, out of nowhere. 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:51.119 I just kind of felt lost and this drive I had to do acting just kind of got um not sidetracked. 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:54.240 I just kind of got I wanted to know who I was. 00:17:54.400 --> 00:18:11.279 I also had a lot of people very interested, and I mean I was offered a couple right away, and I turned them down like for in the name of being a new Christian, but really I think uh I was nervous, like I wasn't maybe ready, didn't know what to expect for a lead for a lead role. 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:16.960 But I but the the the uh one movie was a Friday the 13th, part six. 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:24.720 Oh wow, and so I just said it's not it's not I don't want to do those kind of movies, and then now of course I would take it in the heartbeat, you know. 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:31.599 Yeah, but it's acting, so and if that's what you loved, regardless what the movie was, you would I I understand, yeah. 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:35.920 Friday the 13th, part six, but still I was a still an acting role. 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:37.200 I was a purist, you know. 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:40.240 I would say to my dad, I'm like, Redford wouldn't do that. 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:42.319 Totally, totally he was like the hell he would. 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:44.240 He said he'd be pounding the paper, son. 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:47.359 So I'm pretty sure he's right now. 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:48.640 Yeah, probably. 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:49.599 But you know what? 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:51.279 You can't go back and change the past. 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:54.000 That is all

done, that is all over, forget about that. 00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:55.119 It's water over the dam. 00:18:55.440 --> 00:19:00.319 But now, you know, everything changed for you because you mentioned Jimmy Webb a few minutes ago. 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:05.440 Um, the Jimmy Webb story that you have, I mean, I had a little homework here too. 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:06.240 You'd be proud of me. 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:08.799 I would have scored a day on this project here. 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:13.440 Um, when it, you know, and I had a lex extra time to look up more about Woody Bradshaw. 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:25.440 So, anyways, um, you know, the the Jimmy Webb story, which I love, uh sometimes the direction of our entire life changes because of one seemingly ordinary night. 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:30.000 Now, if I correct me if I'm wrong, and uh is it the Roosevelt Hotel? 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:31.279 Yeah, very good. 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:34.160 And uh he performed there and you were there. 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:42.319 Yeah, I you know, this is when I was writing this poetry, and and I was starting to, and I and I'd gotten, I didn't tell you this part, but a buddy of mine. 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:46.720 Um, I used to do aerobics, I was an aerobic teachers in New York too. 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:53.839 Okay, and I don't know how that happened, but I I was singing, you know, I would sing, and this one guy he was like, You're really good. 00:19:54.000 --> 00:20:01.200 He bought me a karaoke, he was a total New Yorker, and I took that to LA, and then my managers liked my singing too. 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:04.880 He was he said, We gotta get you into the Broadway shows. 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:15.119 And and but I again I was just new at that, and and and I I thought, if I sing, I have to write because I'm not a singer yet, right? 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:24.559 So, and I love the idea of writing because it was like writing scripts, you know, it was like you're writing your own film, and if I get to sing in it, I'm the actor, so it was kind of like stone. 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:26.400 That's a good way to put it, yeah. 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:27.359 Yeah, I get it. 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:34.799 Yeah, so so anyway, I was dabbling in the singing, and all of a sudden I heard that Jimmy Webb was gonna be at the Hollywood Roosevelt. 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:40.000 And yeah, my mom raised me on all that Glenn Campbell, you know, great music of his. 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:44.000 Oh my gosh, by the time I get to Phoenix, you know, hey, I'm just saying. 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:49.519 Yeah, oh yeah, oh my the Wichita lineman. 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:52.720 I I sing that one in in my one of my sets sometimes. 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:56.000 Do you oh my god, I got I gotta make sure I catch one of your sets, though. 00:20:56.079 --> 00:21:00.480 I mean, when I hit Nashville, well, I'll have to uh reach out to you and go, dude, where are you playing? 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:06.160 I want to know, I want to be there because I would love to come by and say hello and and see and hear that because I love that music. 00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:07.440 I mean, that it's no secret. 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:10.079 Anybody that knows me, I love that. 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:21.279 But uh the whole Jimmy Webb thing, um, was it something that Jimmy said or something he played, or simply watching a songwriter communicate with a room that made you realize I'm chasing the wrong dream? 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:24.400 That last one, yeah, chasing the wrong dream. 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:25.200 Oh, yeah, okay. 00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:31.440 The watching him perform and yeah, yeah, yeah, he wasn't he's not a singer, he's not a very good singer at all. 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:41.359 But him playing that piano and then the words coming out of his mouth, the feeling, the emotion, that emotion superseded uh his voice. 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:47.519 And and and I you get that at the blue bluebird here in Nashville, you know, you see the writers play. 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:48.400 Yep, yep. 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:56.160 And and there's so much more heart sometimes than you see in the artists that sing those songs, or when you hear them do it. 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:59.839 So when I saw that, I just was like, I said, I can do that. 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:02.720 It was like it's like a two by four. 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:04.400 You know, being hit with a two by four. 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:08.319 I was like, Yeah, but dude, dude, here's what fantasy. 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:10.319 Yeah, here's what fantasizes me. 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:18.079 Uh, you had already invested years into becoming an actor, and now you're thinking about I'm gonna turn and go this way. 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:20.799 I'm gonna kind of do something a little different. 00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:27.599 After you, you know, I'm sure you're a great actor, you you've got all that, but now it's like, you know, I'm gonna do this. 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:31.039 Yeah, well, well, it wasn't like an about face, though. 00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:33.920 I mean, I really loved acting at the same time. 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:43.200 I was just kind of I I got into classes and I was like the, you know, like I don't know the star of the class, but I was like excelling in in classroom. 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:45.839 I was really getting to be a good actor. 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:48.640 But this was the first time going on auditions. 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:52.480 I was kind of like, you know, it's kind of like this. 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:54.319 Who are you to judge? 00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:56.319 You know, I don't know. 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:04.720 I don't know what I was just young and cocky, but I got just kind of and they didn't seem to I don't it's I it was just me. 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:12.799 I was just young and I wanted to, you know, I this writing was something where I knew somebody could

really see who I was instead of this thing, you know. 00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:20.400 And um, and so I just always thought music and the the acting would come together, kind of like Christofferson. 00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:22.319 You know, that's always been my dream. 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:24.240 Now it would be like Tim McGraw. 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:25.599 Right, right, right. 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:27.359 You know, the two marry. 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:27.920 Right. 00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:37.119 So when I came to Nashville, I just I mean, we we hadn't gotten to this part yet, but that was always my intention was to you know marry the two. 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:38.160 It still is. 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:38.640 Yeah. 00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:41.599 Did anybody feel uh kind of tell you you were crazy? 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:50.000 Uh because you're in LA, you're what you're working, uh, you've got opportunities that are happening, and suddenly you're saying, uh, you know, I'm gonna go to Nas Vegas. 00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:51.039 I'm gonna go to Nashville. 00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:52.880 I'm gonna write country songs. 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:56.799 So uh somebody did anybody say that you were nuts, you're crazy. 00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:57.599 No, good. 00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:00.960 Well, it didn't happen that quickly after I saw Jimmy. 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:03.359 Well, it didn't, I just didn't decide that. 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:11.519 I that's when I started, you know, everything was like one little evolution after another, but they happened really quickly because I was a tennis pro. 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:19.279 We hadn't gotten into that, but I was a teaching pro in Manhattan Beach, and so that was kind of a drive for me. 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:22.000 And um like 20 minutes. 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:32.079 And I remember one day at lunch, I went and got something at one of those little plazas, you know, and then when I came back to my car, there was uh one of those things you stick on your windshield that you can write notes. 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.319 Oh, yeah, yeah, a little post-it or whatever. 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:35.359 Yeah, okay, okay. 00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:37.759 And anyway, and I picked it up and it worked. 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.680 I put it on my windshield and it stuck. 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:51.039 And so on my way home, I put a napkin on it, and I just came up with this melody and this music and this lyric came out of my mouth at the same time. 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:52.000 That's awesome. 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:57.839 And it was called, and I was homesick for the South, you know, from Pensacola, and it's a long day. 00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:12.079 And I just started, I wrote this call song called uh My Dream Waits in Dixie, and it just started out like Southbound through Dixie at night, trying to beat the dawn's early light. 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:14.160 Time is still past. 00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:16.000 It's like it just came. 00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:26.079 And uh, and then I I did that, and I had a friend in New York who was a writer that I met at that church, and he's like, Woody, that's a really good start. 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:30.880 He said, It needs a chorus because I had all these verses, I just kept singing that same part. 00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:36.480 And he and so he said, I think you should fly back out here and I'll work with you. 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:37.519 I had two songs, I think. 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:47.279 Oh wow, okay, and uh, and he's just and he taught me about it once to release, you know, into a chorus, and I'd make him leave the room like I didn't want him any part of it. 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:50.480 You know, I was like, go away, I'll come back, you can check my work. 00:25:50.720 --> 00:26:09.839 And so I wrote these two songs and uh and then went back, and then I had by that time I had gone to this voice class, and that was the other thing I did at the same time, and I'd actually quit it before I started writing these songs because I again I didn't know what I was doing, and I just get mad at myself, and so I quit it. 00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:12.880 But once I started writing these songs, I had this new confidence. 00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:18.000 So I called that guy back, that teacher, and I said, I have these songs, and he heard them. 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:20.000 He goes, This is great. 00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:36.160 He said, I have this this this protege from Germany just moved here going to our school, and he said he could do your demos, and so he was fantastic, and he made these new kind of young songs into these really pretty little gems. 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:45.599 You know, they're not round or anything, these songs, but they were a great start, and it was everybody was like, You've got it, you've got that gift to write. 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:53.119 And so when I moved to Nashville and I did say that, decide to do that, you know, I knew that I'd have to start over. 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.799 Like, like I couldn't hardly play play the guitar yet. 00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:58.480 I wasn't a great singer. 00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:04.400 I mean, I didn't know my voice, I had a natural ability, but I didn't know my voice, I was singing like other people. 00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.480 Yeah, I am I I get that, and that's not unusual. 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:11.839 And uh what uh you know, you arrive in Nashville. 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:16.480 What was the reality compared with uh the Nashville you imagined? 00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:19.759 Was there any issue there? 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:21.920 Or what were you thinking? 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:25.279 Yeah, yeah, there were there was somewhat. 00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:29.920 Like, I I really did think I was at night, like I've got it all, they're gonna want me. 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:35.920 Right, you know, and we all know that Nashville has probably broken as many dreams as it has made.

00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:40.559 I mean, look at how many people go there and they think, all right, this is it, I'm gonna make it big. 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:44.319 Yeah, next thing you know, a couple years later, they're heading back home saying it didn't work. 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:46.720 Yeah, it's tough, it's a tough nut. 00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:48.880 And you gotta know what you're doing. 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:54.880 So, and like I said, I had to learn guitar, and I thought, because as an actor, I was like seasoned. 00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.839 I mean, I went to school, I was I got really honed in. 00:27:58.079 --> 00:27:58.400 Right. 00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:06.000 And I had this new gift to write, and I knew that I was a singer too, but I just hadn't found that voice yet. 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:18.880 And then guitar, I mean, I literally knew chords, but I I was all downstruming, you know, I didn't know how to, you know, and so all that took a little time, and I decided not to do things, not to be so seen right away. 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.960 So I did stuff outside of town, like rounds, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:32.400 That way, and then I found a guitar player, you know, to when I didn't want to, as I was writing new songs to me, you know, I had songs or of tempo that I and I wanted to perform. 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:33.839 And I'm still like that. 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:35.359 I still don't, you know, just yeah. 00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:38.160 Did you um some of the songs that you wrote, Woody? 00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:48.160 Was there a moment when maybe another writer uh essentially tore one of your songs apart and you realized, okay, I've got some learning to do when it comes to songwriting? 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:49.920 Did that ever happen to you? 00:28:50.400 --> 00:29:00.079 Yeah, I mean, not not like not so many words, but like just going to writers' rounds, you know, you would see people that were more advanced, and my stuff was more. 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:02.000 I had this thing about my brother too. 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:03.359 I wanted to please him. 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:04.240 Oh, wow. 00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:04.559 Okay. 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:07.519 And he was like uh, you know, a bet middler. 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:17.680 I mean, he liked female artists, you know, like really told stories, you know, and and so I had this real melancholy side to me that I was I was putting too much into. 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:24.960 And I really didn't have the guitar down, like my melodies when I was writing on guitar weren't as good as just my mind at that point. 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.079 So if I wrote them on guitar, they were longer. 00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:29.839 And so I did get that. 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.039 Like that song seems a little long, you know. 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:34.960 And so I took those to heart. 00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:46.640 And then I I started getting introduced around town, you know, to publishing houses, and they say, Well, we love what you're doing, we don't know what to do with it because it was very wasn't country, it was very Woody music. 00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:49.359 It was like journal, like James Taylor, you know. 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:51.519 Yeah, but how long ago was that, Woody? 00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:53.599 Because I think things have a long time ago. 00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:54.480 Yeah, exactly. 00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:55.200 Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:56.400 This is the very beginning. 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:57.039 I'm sorry. 00:29:57.680 --> 00:29:59.359 No, no, I I guess I get it. 00:29:59.440 --> 00:29:59.920 Yeah, yeah. 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:05.519 And because all this and I and they introduced me to their writers, and then I I said, okay, but I'm not country. 00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:07.920 I was kind of defiant, like I'm not a country. 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:13.359 I thought I was gonna be a Richard Marks kind of star, Brian Adams in Noshville. 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:19.039 And so I started writing with these guys, and that was great, just a point of view difference. 00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:24.160 And then uh, and they were writing toward my artistry, so it wasn't like we were writing for somebody else. 00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:35.759 They they did see me as the artist, these these uh publishing houses, and so that really helped too, just learning to co-write, and then I saw a voice in there for country. 00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:43.279 It's like, okay, I can make my own sound, and I because I don't I'm not necessarily the country 101 that you hear on radio all the time. 00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:44.400 Right, no, exactly. 00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:51.119 I get it, and so and then it just like and then I found a voice teacher who is kind of my Obi-Wan Kenobi. 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:54.319 He's since passed, but he was an opera teacher. 00:30:55.039 --> 00:31:03.359 That was a funny story because I got on the phone, somebody uh referred me to him, and he kind of auditioned me on the phone, although I thought I was auditioning him. 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.920 And I said, Listen, man, I don't don't turn me into a twanger. 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:12.079 And he just kind of laughed like, bless your heart. 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:23.279 He says, You have no idea what you're in for, but he really made me he made me find my signature sound, and yeah, it's kind of like a thumbprint, you know, it's a familiar sound, it's one of a kind. 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:33.920 Yeah, see, I'm glad you said that because if somebody's gonna be watching this or or they're listening to this podcast, they I mean, to hear somebody like you say that it just doesn't happen, it comes over time. 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:42.720 You have to work with somebody, they they bring it out, they're gonna bring whatever your sound is, they're gonna bring it out and make it unique, and you'll make it unique, right? 00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.359 And that's

one of the uh things you need to do. 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.119 Some some, I guess, are truly born if they start too. 00:31:49.359 --> 00:32:00.000 But mine worked out uh that it took some time, and I I waited till I really presented myself to Nashville, and then I got you know invited to the bluebird. 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:02.240 I probably played it five or six times on a speech. 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:03.119 That's so cool. 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:04.400 The bluebird is the best. 00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:12.640 I mean, it's just you're so focused, and you can hear a pin drop and you listen to the words and the chords and and all that. 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:20.480 It's just nothing better than hanging out at the bluebird, and even getting that opportunity to play there when you sign up and they ask you to come in and play. 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:21.920 Yeah, uh, that's pretty cool. 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.599 Their menu even says shh, like it's like the church, you know. 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:26.640 Yes, no, exactly. 00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.119 You better damn well leave your phone off. 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:46.400 So but yeah, so that was and so yeah, and then by that time I all of a sudden got, you know, it was all gelling, but the playing, the singing, the writing, and um, you know, my freshman album, The Last Thing You Do, I guess you saw that or heard it. 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:51.839 Yes, and that was uh that was a great example of the publishing houses supporting me. 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:56.799 They would pitch me songs, and then they had also write, I'd write with their writers. 00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:05.839 And the one song that they pitched me um was The Last Thing You Do that I liked that that was not so country, country. 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:18.880 Something I thought I could write that, and I was surprised, like, because you know they have A-list drawer, they call it, for the A, the stars, and I was like, I don't know why this one wasn't picked, and um, because I would even play it out. 00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:26.240 Oh, that was the thing, it was written in the third person, like oh okay, hung up the phone, and then she did this. 00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:37.119 And so when I was trying to pick for my album of all these different songs that I wrote, and people were pitching, I almost passed on it because I was singing the third person. 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.119 I don't think it resonated with me. 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:46.160 My my manager goes, sing it in the first person, and then when I did that, it was just like a whole different, yeah. 00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:47.279 Yeah, and I did that. 00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:56.720 I think that's why it was passed on by a major star because the way the way it was written, it was written, and then we got permission to do it from the writers, yeah. 00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:08.800 And uh, so I did not write that song, but uh, but that song did did really well by me, and I got a you know, a record deal from it, and um and you were one of the top 10 artists to watch at one time. 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.280 I know back in the day, I think it was Clear Channel. 00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:16.400 I worked for Clear Channel for a whole lot of years, and uh yeah, well, you know, I did. 00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:18.079 You know Tom English? 00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:19.760 Very well, yes. 00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.079 He's a dear friend of the family. 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:28.159 Matter of fact, his wife is her mother was that couple in New York City. 00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:29.199 Wow, okay. 00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.360 They're dear friends of the family, yeah. 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:33.199 Very, very cool, very cool. 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:36.480 Tom was really good advocate for me. 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:42.800 Yeah, and um, but yeah, I got got top 10 artists with Luke Bryan, and that was all cool. 00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:44.400 Yeah, that is very cool. 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.639 And uh, and then what happened? 00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:48.960 You know, what happened after all that? 00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:53.599 Well, that was that's kind of it was a heartbreaking story because the song was killing it. 00:34:53.679 --> 00:35:02.480 I mean, I was beating all the big boys head to head on radio, and they would do I guess you know they all do those pie, like the three play four artists. 00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:03.039 Yep, yeah. 00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:04.719 It would win every time. 00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:10.159 The only time I didn't win, I tied was with Tracy Lawrence on You Know Who Your Friends Are? 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:11.280 Yep, yeah, yeah. 00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:12.480 What a great song. 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:13.679 Absolutely, absolutely. 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:24.880 We were doing our radio tour, we were in California waiting, we were going up the coast, and we were supposed to go to San Jose, and that clear channel just kept putting us off and putting us off. 00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:29.360 We were gonna turn around after our visit right before that because we never heard from them. 00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:31.840 So we were on our way to LA and we got a call from them. 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:33.599 They said, Listen, you need to come back up here. 00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:37.440 We just put that up and it tied with Tracy Lawrence. 00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:42.639 And then she said, I got there and she goes, Congratulations, how are you gonna keep this going? 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:46.639 And uh I said it's a great song, and what do you mean? 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:49.599 And I realized then about the business part, you know. 00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:55.119 Uh yeah, they said, We'll play it, we'll put it in the rotation. 00:35:55.199 --> 00:36:00.400 But if Kenny has a new hit, then you know, money can talk to the radio still. 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:02.639 Then uh it's gonna get knocked back. 00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.119 So yeah, that's

what happens exactly. 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.079 My label basically my label fell through. 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:13.840 They they ran out of money, and uh well, that seems to be the story quite often, more often than not. 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.000 Yeah, uh well that was heartbreaking. 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:17.599 Yeah, yeah. 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.360 It is, but look at I mean, you're happy, you're happy now. 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:25.440 Well, yeah, that was uh you that was what's that? 00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:27.199 I said you've got a good team. 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:34.480 I mean, uh you know, I reach with grassroots, and of course, yeah, you know, as I mentioned before, we went out with the lights and the cameras. 00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:39.280 Um, the fact that uh those are some of the greatest people uh that you could be working for. 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:49.039 Um, grassroots is and I I say this because I I interview a lot of their artists a lot because Nancy will reach out or Katie will reach out, or somebody will. 00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:58.559 And um it's just there they are musicians, they are radio people, they know how to work both sides, and they they do it very, very well. 00:36:58.719 --> 00:36:59.599 Yeah, very well. 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:04.079 You know, they're a good team, and I'm with Dead Horse Branding, is we're working with them. 00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:05.280 That's Tony Brown's. 00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.239 Yes, yes, yes, you know, absolutely. 00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:10.719 Anything to do with Tony Brown, I mean, come on. 00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:12.960 Let's just be real about that as well. 00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.760 Let's let's talk about the song that you have, Al. 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:17.280 Let's talk about that a little bit. 00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:17.760 Wait a minute. 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:19.039 Let me if I can find it here. 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:19.440 Let's see. 00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:20.239 I think this is it. 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:20.960 That's it. 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.280 I gotta play just a little bit over this. 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:27.920 Just a little bit, or I'll get yelled at by the internet gods. 00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:41.039 I love this country, lately things have changed. 00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:46.480 Donna the world's done in the state. 00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:51.280 Still the greatest nation brightly on it. 00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:59.360 We gotta fight the keyboard free. 00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:26.000 I love that. 00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:27.360 Dude, I love that. 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:28.320 I love that. 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.800 Tell us a little bit about the song itself. 00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:42.400 I mean, that that is something we all know what's going on in the world, and we all know that we're so divided here in the uh, you know, in the great United States of America for whatever reason, and I hate it because we're divided. 00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:45.840 But uh it, you know, reality is I don't care what you believe in. 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:52.480 I'm sure people don't care what I believe in, but then again, some people do care, and that's that what causes is what causes a problem. 00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:56.880 But uh, when we have a song like this, I think it's something like we can all go, yeah. 00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:58.639 Yeah, yeah, that's what it's about. 00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:00.000 Tell me about that a little bit. 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:03.519 I hope that's what people feel because that's what I I wanted to. 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:10.400 Um yeah, I had no intention of writing a patriotic America 250 song. 00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:13.039 I should have thought about it, but I wasn't. 00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:23.519 I was writing some other song, and and the whole story behind it, I was sitting on this couch on this song that is a beautiful chorus, but I had no idea what anything else was about yet. 00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:25.199 So I was just stuck. 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:30.480 And you know, I do what everybody does now, is I got my phone and started scrolling. 00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:37.679 And one of the first things I saw that just caught my eye was this baseball cap with America 250. 00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:39.599 And you know, beat up denim. 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:43.440 And I'm not even a cap guy, I don't really use wear hats much. 00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:45.519 You got the Keith Urban hairdo. 00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:46.480 See, yeah. 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.280 I was like, I gotta, I thought I gotta have that hat. 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:55.679 And uh so anyway, I I thought I'm gonna go to the gym because I'm not getting anywhere with this other song. 00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:59.599 And then all of a sudden, I think that just started ruminating, you know. 00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:05.280 I and and I thought it's too bad you didn't write a damn song for America 250, Woody. 00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:10.960 And because it was May when I wrote it, and you know, July was coming, July 4th. 00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:13.920 And but I just thought, what if let's just try it? 00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:17.519 I just had this burst of faith, kind of like when I was in New York City. 00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:22.159 When I could do no wrong, I thought, just see what comes out. 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:27.199 And I just almost the chorus as you just heard it almost came out as is. 00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:31.199 Yeah, I was like, who's pronounced from the USA? 00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:33.599 It's pretty good. 00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:36.960 With a CM hands, let's lift our praise. 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:41.760 And then I said something like I think the red, white, and blue line was different. 00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:44.880 And then I just, yeah, but I was like, bleed red, white, and blue. 00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:46.000 Do you bleed the same? 00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:49.920 Yeah, anyway, and I forgot the other song. 00:40:50.159 -->

00:40:52.400 I just went, you know, just right at it. 00:40:52.480 --> 00:41:04.079 Now it wrote itself basically in two or three days, but I took about a week, like really trying to because I really wanted it to be a uniting song, not a Toby Keith boot. 00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:04.719 Right. 00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:05.440 Now I hear you. 00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.440 A boots, uh, yeah, kick it up your butt. 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:08.480 Boot up your ass. 00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:09.679 Yeah, exactly. 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:17.920 And so like I I worked on like trying to find the right word for that that woke section, like a bunch of twisted people. 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:19.199 That's what I came up with. 00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:21.119 Because I thought a farmer would say that. 00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:24.719 And it's not a it's not like unhinged like a Trump would say. 00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:29.199 I don't want to, you know, I just thought a farmer would say it because it just means I don't get what they're doing. 00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:31.440 That's twisted right, right, right, right. 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:33.599 They are, it's just their minds are. 00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:38.320 And so that took a while just to find one word, but I was so proud of this song. 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:39.039 I'm just like so. 00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:40.239 And you should be. 00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:49.679 I feel like it's was given to me, you know, it's so perfectly round, and I think it is, it's more than just a obligatory, patriotic song. 00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:50.800 I think it's the next. 00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:54.800 I think it's as good, in my opinion, as God bless the USA. 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:56.239 It's different, it's just the newer version. 00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:56.960 It's different. 00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.239 It's different, it's a newer version, just as good, if not better. 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:01.199 Well, thank you. 00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:08.639 Yeah, so you seem to be uh Woody, you seem to be drawn towards songs that have some larger emotional purpose behind them. 00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:11.599 Uh, I was reading about uh the song you wrote for the U.S. 00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:12.880 Navy Blue Angels. 00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:15.440 Uh, let's see, the blues are back in town. 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:22.000 Yeah, um, and uh from what I was reading as well, a lot of the pilots and their families they responded to that song. 00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.159 Yeah, it was very that was cool. 00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:29.760 Yeah, I had written a song about Pensacola, uh, it's called It's Good to Be Home. 00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:36.800 And um and I was just thinking, yeah, what's the the next one would be great if I could write a blue angel song. 00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:40.239 But they're if you've ever seen them perform, yeah. 00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.159 I have it's breathtaking. 00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:51.280 I mean, if your your audience hasn't seen them, it's one

of the things you gotta try to do live because you can't really, it's over overwhelming sensation. 00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:51.920 Exactly. 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:59.119 When I thought I was gonna write that, I thought, you know, this has got to be as big as they are, you know, this song, this anthem. 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:05.360 And all of a sudden, when I tried, when I started on it, I came up with the ending for the beginning at the very beginning. 00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:10.559 It's like, and when I got that line, I was like, it it kind of wrote itself too. 00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:17.039 You know, it was like the blues are back in town, you can feel the tension, you know. 00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:21.840 Then all of a sudden I went into this verse, so it's very like you know, it's a builder upper. 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:36.559 And then the chorus kind of explodes, and uh, so yeah, I never thought it'd be one of these like writing songs like uh military or but I find myself well, I'm very patriotic, so I guess that's where it all comes from. 00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:44.880 And then um, and then living down in Pensacola, seeing all that, it's it's yeah, you see, yeah, you must see that all year round down there. 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:45.679 You know what I mean? 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:46.400 It's just crazy. 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:49.280 Uh, true story, I almost went to work in Pensacola. 00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:49.920 Oh, yeah. 00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:55.920 The radio thing, but the problem was there's plenty of sunshine, but very little money, if you know what I mean. 00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:02.159 They they offer to pay you in sunshine as opposed to, you know, but it's Sun is beautiful, but it doesn't pay the bills. 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:02.800 Yeah. 00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:06.639 Plus, I have a um I have a child with disability abilities. 00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:14.639 Um, my son is down syndrome, and from what I was reading, it wasn't one of the better places to bring a child up with disabilities. 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:17.360 So that's my wife and I, that's why we stayed here. 00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.519 So that's well, it is it is beautiful down there, but it is beautiful. 00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.360 And I almost went to work for cat country. 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:24.480 I don't know if you know the radio station. 00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:26.000 I was gonna ask you who it was for. 00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:29.119 That's yeah, that's kind of our big that's our big country station. 00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:32.639 They've been always very supportive of me and they're great. 00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:34.559 Uh Brent Lane, you probably Yes. 00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:35.760 Oh, yeah, absolutely. 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:36.400 Absolutely. 00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:38.639 I um I see them quite often. 00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:42.480 Uh the country radio seminar in Nashville will say hello. 00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:44.239 And are you going this year? 00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:45.360 I go every year. 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:47.360 I've done it for the last 25, 30 years. 00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:48.960 Okay, well, I'll I'll see you this year. 00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:49.440 How about that? 00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:50.239 Yeah, you know what? 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:50.880 I would love that. 00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:52.400 That's yeah, it'll be in March. 00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:53.440 Yeah, exactly. 00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:55.679 Tell me about uh in 2025. 00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:56.800 I I found this too. 00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:00.079 I uh look at if you don't believe I did my homework, I do my homework. 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:06.000 In 2025, you released your interpretation of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah. 00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:06.559 Yeah. 00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:10.639 And there's a story behind that song that's pretty extraordinary. 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:12.000 Can you tell us about that? 00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:12.800 Yeah. 00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:15.519 Uh well, there's this woman in Pensacola. 00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.719 She was a neighbor of my mom's, her new house. 00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:35.840 My dad had passed, and so we moved my mom, and she was the neighbor just for like a year, you know, and and um and she had uh they had moved her and her family, and she she called me one day and she said, My my girlfriend, you know, my friend, she has cancer. 00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:40.559 And um and she said her favorite song is Hallelujah. 00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:42.960 Would you be interested in singing that? 00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:46.000 And she asked me that probably like 2022. 00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:53.679 And I just kind of kept and I wasn't I didn't I knew the song, but I didn't I didn't care for I guess the ones I had heard, maybe. 00:45:53.920 --> 00:46:00.239 But it just I didn't resonate with it, and so I just kind of kept putting her off, but she would nudge me each year, you know. 00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.119 Would you think about doing that? 00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:17.199 And also didn't have time sometimes when she was asking, I was on other stuff, but and then finally I thought I I'm I'm gonna look at this song, I need to do this for her because she's really wanting this for her friend, and her friend's a survivor, you know. 00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:26.719 And so once I looked into it and I I really just you know got the lyric in front of me, the actor in me started breaking that down because that's some powerful stuff. 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:36.719 So that um that song's got to be one of the most covered songs around, yeah. 00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.599 You know, just anywhere and everywhere you go. 00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:47.199 And since then, since since that I started listening to others uh versions that I did love, I was like, oh yeah, this is big. 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:59.199 But the just the interpretation of those lyrics or just the actor in me love that, and I thought I can make my own version of this, and

with my just knowing what it means now to me. 00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:05.519 And then, and by the way, that producer I told you about in in LA, you know, when I first started. 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:06.159 Yep. 00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:22.159 Well, that that protege or that whoever that young jer German kid was, well, you just knew he was gonna be like the next um uh David Foster, okay, Quincy Jones, and of course, since then he's worked with both of them. 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:24.480 That's that's you know, projects. 00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:35.599 Wow, he was he was that big then, and you know, and then you know, we lost touch for years, and then Facebook is one of those things, you know, it just you friend each other, then you follow. 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.119 And I thought, well, he's probably too big to do anything. 00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:50.000 And I reached out to him when I did the Blue Angel song, I and uh, and then we talked, and it was like no time had passed, and we became like really good buddies, by the way, when I was in LA. 00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:55.119 Very cool, and so it was one of those neat things way back, but you know, you just lose contact. 00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:01.199 So when we got back together, you know, I thought he can really make this sucker huge. 00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:16.559 And uh, so I went out there for that, and then I I finished an album the next year and went back out with him, and so he's been in my life since then, and now has since moved to Nashville, and so he's right in my backyard here. 00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:19.760 And when I did hallelujah, we go over there and we'll pray. 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:26.239 He's a God thing is still there with me, and then and it should be absolutely way back then. 00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:30.960 He, you know, I got him, we'd pray at lunch, and he says, What do you know ever since then? 00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:41.360 I pray with my clients at lunch, so that's been a cool thing, and so now he's here, and and we we pray before our project, and then all of a sudden he says, You know what? 00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:47.440 I'm hearing a baritone guitar, and so that's that opening you hear, is like that's the main instrument. 00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:51.199 Oh wow, so yeah, now he's at my disposal. 00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:56.400 I've got you know this great feature, and uh right in your own backyard, no less. 00:48:56.559 --> 00:49:03.519 Yeah, and we knocked that thing out and just so proud of it, and uh people seem to really love it, and some say it's their favorite. 00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:07.920 So, you know, Woody, you've been in this business to see it completely change. 00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:18.639 I mean, it's it's crazy, and the changes record labels don't operate the same way, radio has changed, streaming, it's changed everything. 00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.960 Uh, social media, no less, that has changed everything as well. 00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:26.800 Is it easier or harder

to be an artist today because of all that? 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:43.360 Well, to me, it's easier because you know, even when I got here the first time, you know, I started a new career like you know, late pretty later in life, like in your late 20s to start is kind of uh unheard of. 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:51.360 And so, you know, then when I had my record deal back then, you didn't have Google as much, you know, telling right, right, right. 00:49:51.519 --> 00:50:02.800 So I just looked as I just looked younger than I was, but now it's like none of that matters anymore because you have social media, you know, you have viral, you have digital streaming. 00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.679 Do you um do you do all your own social? 00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:10.000 Yeah, I'm not very good at it. 00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:12.800 That's why I'm looking, I'm actually looking for a whole new team again. 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:17.599 I mean, I have grassroots and I have dead, but I'm actually, you know, right now I'm I don't have a manager. 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:24.079 I'm like, so I need to find my team again to do stuff and and to hire on, like for social media. 00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:26.880 And I I mean I have people that work with me, yeah. 00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:32.320 But you know, I need a really bigger team, and especially off of this song right here. 00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:37.920 I think this song is is really just gonna, it's just open things for me and like sponsorships. 00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:40.719 Like this thing is like online, absolutely, absolutely. 00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:48.239 So now I'm looking for you know um brand sponsorships and also sync licensing for this song. 00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:50.639 I think this song should be on the Super Bowl. 00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:55.920 Yeah, well, maybe yeah, during a car ad or a beer commercial. 00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:57.599 Let's get that done. 00:50:58.000 --> 00:50:59.599 Let's see the video. 00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:00.559 Have you watched the video? 00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:04.559 I did not watch the video, I'll be totally honest with you, but I will once we're off. 00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:06.639 Because that's yeah, absolutely. 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:08.639 You'll get that vision once you see it. 00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:10.559 Because I absolutely did that. 00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:11.519 Absolutely. 00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:14.800 So I mean, would you ever go back to acting? 00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:18.159 Yeah, no, no, that's that's that's so that's still there. 00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:21.280 That's still there, what you do, it you just bring it all together. 00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:27.519 Yeah, I just yeah, I just wanted it to be through the music first, and I kind of put it aside. 00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:34.960 And I again that's kind of like my dad said about the acting earlier, like you know, you'd be pounding the pavement. 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:39.280 I I decided no, music is my thing, so no acting until I have music. 00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:41.039 Well, I could have done both. 00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:48.159 Yeah, I like I like the focus of doing the music, and then my whole bill to start working, you know, as an actor. 00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:48.880 Yeah, yeah. 00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:54.880 The reason I asked that, Woody, was uh because your website kind of talks about this being another chapter for you. 00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:59.840 That's why I was kind of like, you know, are you gonna stick with the music or you're gonna do both, or what are you gonna do? 00:51:59.920 --> 00:52:01.119 So and you answered it. 00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:05.920 So yeah, no, I'd love the opportunity to act, and uh for sure. 00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.880 Do they still call you commercials? 00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:13.039 No, I I kind of exited all that on my own. 00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:14.800 Like, uh, okay, all right. 00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:23.760 I didn't know if you you know you did have somebody working on your side saying, Hey, you know, here's a few extra bucks we can get you in the spot, or we need somebody to do this or whatever. 00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:27.599 Because you know, I'm ready for the next Taylor Sheridan lead. 00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:32.159 Dude, dude, I think you could do that. 00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:36.400 Yeah, I mean, he likes to he likes to cast musicians, it's funny. 00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:39.440 100%, you know, all the way, baby. 00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:40.320 Yeah, all the way. 00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:42.559 Yeah, but you know, like it's a journey, you know. 00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:48.880 It's not that this is not how I saw it all happening, but it is, you know, it's one of those just life meanders, you know. 00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:54.000 And yeah, and I mean, I'm driven, but and life has not always happened like I've wanted it. 00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:58.800 But I'm still feel I feel I feel better now than when I had my first record deal. 00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:04.400 You know, wow, and I have more to say, and it's easier to write, my voice is better, you know. 00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:05.519 That sounds great. 00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:06.800 I mean, there's no doubt. 00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:11.280 You you've you're the whole not to sound weird, but you're the whole package, dude. 00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:15.920 You've got the voice, you got the looks, you've got all that going for you, which is just phenomenal. 00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:27.920 And I frankly, I'm kind of surprised that Taylor Sheridan has not reached out to you or somebody on that team because knowing you're in Nashville, knowing you're an actor, knowing you're a great artist, what the hell, man? 00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:31.199 Maybe, maybe this is the the avenue to make that happen. 00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:32.719 Just we're gonna work on that. 00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:34.320 We're gonna work on that, brother. 00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:35.199 We're gonna work on that. 00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:36.320 I

would love to do that. 00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:40.400 Um, outside of music, what makes uh Woody Bradshaw happy these days? 00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:41.599 And thank you, by the way. 00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:42.960 That was very complimentary. 00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.239 Um, what makes me happy these days? 00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:49.840 Um, can I get get real with you here? 00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:52.320 You can get dude, you can get real. 00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:52.800 All right. 00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:55.519 I'll tell you, I'll tell you one reason. 00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:23.119 Uh a big part of my story is you know, after that first deal, that heartbreak is um, you know, I I was in a slumber for a while, you know, and when I say that, I mean like, you know, I'm I don't know if I wouldn't say I was an alcoholic, but drinking, there's drinking too much, just enough of it to where I I realized I lost like 10 years um a year and a half ago. 00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:26.480 My a friend, two friends of mine, I met them at this one bar. 00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:28.159 I'm I mean, I never was a bar guy. 00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:31.840 I was usually I'd go out late and then I go hunting, so to speak. 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:33.119 Yeah, I gotcha. 00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:40.159 But but I never was like the after-work bar guy, and all of a sudden, 10 years ago, I that slowly happened. 00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:46.480 And I met this couple, and then they got married, and then they had a child, then they had another child, and they were celebrating their 10-year anniversary. 00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:53.039 And I and I remember thinking when we were talking about that, I thought, those are the these are the worst 10 years of my life. 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:58.639 And I realized that, and I and I knew my mom was praying, she's like, You're drinking a little too much, I think. 00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:01.280 So I just quit drinking a year and a half ago. 00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:03.599 And dude, congrats. 00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.320 I mean, it was just like I was waiting, it was waiting for. 00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:14.880 I mean, I don't really like beer, and it was one of those things I think it was just a fixation of it's the comfort thing, it's just yeah, yeah, totally. 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:31.760 And I just stopped it, and then I would still go visit and go see my friends, but I could only hang there a little bit because it's obnoxious when you're not when other people are drinking, but and it was no problem for me going, so that just kind of changed my everything, and all of a sudden, my clarity. 00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:50.400 Because I'm a I mean, I've I have big dreams and visions for my life, but I realize you're just stifling those vision, and then I have a you know, a mom who's wonderful, she's relevant, still cute, but she's getting older, and I wanted to be more present for her because I go back and forth from here in Nashville, it's like half the year. 00:55:50.719 -->

00:55:51.360 Where are you now? 00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:53.199 Aren't you are you in Nashville right now? 00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:54.400 I'm in Nashville right now. 00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:55.119 Okay, all right. 00:55:55.360 --> 00:56:08.480 I'll be going back there next week, and uh, and I just want you know, I just want to be the best me for her, and I have a brother down there, and um, and he has some health issues that might be a player. 00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:12.880 And um, I don't know, it's just made everything more clear. 00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.360 I'm a better son, better brother. 00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:20.559 You know, that sounds corny probably on no, no, you know, dude. 00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:23.440 I mean, it takes a lot to say that you said it. 00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:25.360 But it's helpful music, too. 00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:30.159 I mean, it's just really that's why I've come to life, and I feel like I could I can't stop writing now, too. 00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:36.159 Now that I um now that I asked you that, let me let me flip it around here. 00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:37.920 What scares you more today? 00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:39.760 Failure or regret? 00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:42.320 Oh, that's a great question. 00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:47.440 Um, you've got a lot of them, though. 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:49.519 You're a very good interviewer, by the way. 00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:50.639 Uh well, thank you very much. 00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:52.559 Best one I've had for sure. 00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:54.239 Oh, dude, you're so kind. 00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:57.039 See, we're gonna have to uh go out and get a soda. 00:56:57.360 --> 00:56:58.480 Absolutely. 00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:01.199 Uh I'll drink a no-alcohol beer with you. 00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:01.679 I still do that. 00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:02.239 There you go. 00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:02.639 I'll do it. 00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:03.119 I'll do it. 00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:03.519 All right. 00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:04.960 So, what scares you more? 00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:06.239 Say that again. 00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:07.840 What scares you more today? 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:09.920 Is it failure or regret? 00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:13.920 I think I think now it'd be regret. 00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:18.159 I think if you asked me, you know, a while back, 20 years ago, failure. 00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:24.639 But now, yeah, I think I see life, you know, it is one of those things you can't predict. 00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:30.400 And um, and so living your best life, you know, and then or not taking chances. 00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:32.480 Like I said, I was hiding for 10 years. 00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:34.800 So I regret that. 00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:47.360 I've and I regret even the years before that, uh, depending on other stuff, you know, and not, you know, just not being in giving your full your full self, you know. 00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:54.000 I people talking about Tom Cruise, you know, people make fun of him about the Scientology and stuff. 00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:54.639 Oh, yeah. 00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:59.679 But you can't help but admire that guy because he's so focused and driven. 00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:17.599 And you know, and a lot of actors when they're young, or in any or musicians, you know, you fall into that trap of hey, I had this one thing, I'd celebrate, and then you fall into that trap of just going by the wayside because you're not thinking about the next greatness, right? 00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:17.840 Right. 00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:25.519 I want to be, I want to achieve greatness, and so like this this song is an example of I feel like in some ways I have with that. 00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:26.480 Yeah, totally. 00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:27.760 And yes, sir. 00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:36.480 So it's not even necessarily about making it or fame, it's really just doing great work and being recognized for it and then making a living at it, you know. 00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:40.159 Exactly, exactly, and it looks like you're doing okay. 00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:42.079 So that's uh that's pretty cool. 00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:47.039 Um, Woody, what's something people assume about you from your music that isn't really true? 00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:53.599 We're gonna wrap this up in a few minutes, but uh, what's something people assume about you from your music that is not actually true? 00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:56.480 From my music that is not true. 00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:57.920 That's a toughie. 00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:06.719 Um well in the early days, maybe it that I'm a womanizer. 00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:07.440 Okay. 00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:16.960 Because I would write, well, I'd write a lot of songs about um leaving, you know, and being like, oops, sorry, I didn't mean to leave. 00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:18.559 Can I can you come back? 00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.679 Um let's see if I'm making that clear or not. 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:28.719 Nah, you're a good guy, and you you think people kind of took it the wrong way because maybe you were too nice to people. 00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:32.400 No, no, especially the I was a bad, bad boy. 00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:33.840 You're a badass. 00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:37.280 No, I mean, I've I've always been well, okay. 00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:45.519 No, I think I I think I mean I love I you know, in the past I've loved women, that was part of the other thing. 00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:47.519 My crutch was women, right? 00:59:47.679 --> 01:00:06.400 And so it's too much time, you know, dabbling with gifts in the wrong area instead of being again being driven and not but just be that being like like he's some jerk, he's a player, but I'm really that that goodness in me that that when I went to New York, the God thing. 01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:12.719 I think I I'm I wore it something I don't want to be, but I'm really good. 01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:16.079 So when people think you're like some dog, it's like that's just not true. 01:00:16.320 -->

01:00:17.679 Yeah, I don't believe it. 01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:20.480 I got a weakness, what can I say? 01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:28.719 Hey, you're a guy for crying out loud, and you're a good-looking guy and all that, but just you gotta put your priorities where they need to be. 01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:34.880 But even that, even like with with women now, it's like like I again, my focus is not on that. 01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:37.360 Like, I'm not totally just by not drinking. 01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:47.679 That's funny that drinking puts you on a stage, it's like uh gets you you know juiced up to go do stuff you you wouldn't normally do, right? 01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:48.079 Right. 01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:49.199 No, yeah. 01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:51.679 So now I want I want the right girl. 01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:52.639 There you go. 01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:54.559 It'll happen, it'll happen, dude. 01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:55.199 It'll happen. 01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:56.400 Just everything takes time. 01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:58.320 So um have you been married? 01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:02.639 How long have I oh my gosh, it's like don't tell anybody, but it's my third. 01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:07.440 Um I but I've been married since '96 now, and life is great. 01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:11.920 We have a 25-year-old son who I mentioned is uh Down syndrome. 01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:16.719 I have eight grandchildren, I have three beautiful daughters from my ex. 01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:18.800 Um, and life is great. 01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:19.599 You know what I mean? 01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:20.320 Life is great. 01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:23.599 I have one daughter that lives fairly close here in the Northeast. 01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:29.519 Uh, I got another one that's in western New York, and I have another one that's down uh near Newport News, Virginia. 01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:33.280 So um, so you know, but to family, it it's great. 01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:35.519 Life is good, everything's wonderful. 01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:36.400 I got a beautiful home. 01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:38.719 I mean, are y'all what's that? 01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:40.559 You get to see them quite a bit. 01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:44.320 Uh I I see the one that lives around here quite a bit. 01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:44.639 Yeah. 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:59.119 But it it's hard because, as you know, I mean, you're always either performing or I have to do the radio thing, and it's just and the weekends kind of suck at times when you do want to go and see see the kids or whatever, it gets difficult. 01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:01.519 So, but uh I do my best to keep in touch. 01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:04.880 People go away, it's hard to but you know what? 01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:05.760 It's good for them. 01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:07.360 It's good for them to get away. 01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:12.960 My daughters grew up, they did what they had to do, and they've got their their own lives too. 01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:16.079 And like I said,

they've given me eight grandchildren. 01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:20.719 And at the holidays, at the holidays, we kind of, you know, we do get together. 01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:24.400 And you know, I'm a very young grandpa, uh, I will admit that. 01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:26.400 And uh, I love being called Papa. 01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:27.360 Just saying. 01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:28.079 Just saying. 01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:30.320 Yeah, I wouldn't take you for a granddad yet. 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:32.639 Oh, well, if only you knew. 01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:34.480 Um no. 01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.039 All right, so let's talk about Woody Bradshaw. 01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:38.159 Where can we get your music? 01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:39.119 Where are we gonna go? 01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:39.840 What's the website? 01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:42.159 Where can we get you know everything Woody Bradshaw? 01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:46.320 You can get my you can find my music on all social downloads. 01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:46.800 Okay. 01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:52.239 And uh my website is Woody Bradshaw.com, and we just revived it, revamped it. 01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:52.639 Yep. 01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:54.000 So it looks really good too. 01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:55.599 I'm really uh pleased with it. 01:02:55.760 --> 01:03:01.679 And you can see like four of my videos on there, the hallelujah, the new song, The Last Thing You Do, I think is on there. 01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:07.760 Okay, and you'll learn another story about me with a song about Amber, which is a daughter I have. 01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:08.559 Beautiful. 01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:09.920 How old is she? 01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:11.599 I can't tell you that. 01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:12.559 Okay, never mind. 01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:13.280 She's an adult. 01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:14.320 I thought you no, no. 01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:15.199 Oh, she's an adult. 01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:16.079 Okay, I got you. 01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:27.440 But it's it's our it's our story, and it's uh it's I love that it's another story that you don't have time for right now, but it the story is in the song, and and uh we'll listen to it and we'll hear it. 01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:28.320 Please do. 01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:29.679 God, I love that, man. 01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:31.840 I got is it is she your only daughter? 01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:33.679 Yes, yes, that's awesome. 01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:34.320 That's awesome. 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:36.800 But I also have a granddaughter. 01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:38.079 There you go. 01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:40.559 See, and you're a young grandpa, I can just tell. 01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:43.280 I mean, we're just 12 when I had her. 01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:44.400 What can I say? 01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:47.039 Hey, we have something in common. 01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:48.079 I mean too. 01:03:48.239 --> 01:03:49.119 Um, exactly. 01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:51.679 So a little bit of rapid fire before I let you go. 01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:53.039

Uh, let's have a little fun. 01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:55.519 Uh, first concert you ever attended. 01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.960 Z Top Mobile, Alabama, with my cousin. 01:03:59.119 --> 01:03:59.760 Oh, cool. 01:03:59.920 --> 01:04:00.239 All right. 01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:03.760 First album you uh ever bought with your own money. 01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:10.400 Um I think it maybe was an Aerosmith album. 01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:11.519 I I liked rock too. 01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:14.320 That was my other A oh, you're gonna like this one. 01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:17.440 A Jimmy Webb song you wish you'd written. 01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:20.159 Which tall linemen? 01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:22.159 No, that could be the greatest song ever. 01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:23.679 Yeah, of all time. 01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:29.280 Yeah, uh, the best songwriter that you have ever sat in a room with. 01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:31.920 Jimmy Webb. 01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:34.400 Okay, let's let's not make it about Jimmy Webb. 01:04:34.639 --> 01:04:37.280 Uh no, you could be right, dude. 01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:46.480 Well, he he is my favorite songwriter, but all right, other than him, Marcus Human is Nashville, and he was also loves Jimmy Webb, I found out. 01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:50.159 And he wrote hits like um God bless the broken road. 01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:52.719 You know, he writes those really deep. 01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:55.199 I I I have a I I've heard the name. 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:55.920 I've heard the name. 01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:58.159 And he wrote uh Cowboy Take Me Away. 01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:01.920 I mean, he can write the fun stuff too, like yeah, but he's a brilliant writer. 01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:02.880 Absolutely. 01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:06.880 I'd like him, I'd like to write with him if you're listening, Marcus. 01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:07.760 I love it. 01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:11.280 Um, favorite place to hear live music in Nashville. 01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:13.840 Uh Third and Lindsey. 01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:14.719 There you go. 01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:15.519 Have you been out there? 01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:17.280 Um the Station Inn. 01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:19.199 I used to go, I'd love to go to the Station Inn. 01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:21.199 Yeah, yeah, that's a great place too. 01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:21.519 Yeah. 01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:23.599 Have you been to Third and Lindsley? 01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:24.559 Yep, a few times. 01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:25.280 Yeah, absolutely. 01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:26.960 That's turned into a great venue now. 01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:27.360 Yeah, yeah. 01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:29.920 And of course, the bluebird. 01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:32.320 You can't oh you can't beat the bluebird. 01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:33.679 I mean, the bluebird's over here. 01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:37.599 That's always gonna be some little thing, you know, it's special. 01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:39.519 Studio or stage? 01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:43.840 I'd love to do the stage. 01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:48.159 I think overall studio, but I'd love to be on Broadway. 01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:53.360 That's another thing I still want to do is like like musically, just do a Broadway show. 01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:55.199 Like what was his name? 01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:58.800 Um, did Pirates of Penzance with Linda Ronstadt, Gary? 01:05:59.119 --> 01:05:59.679 Oh um. 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:01.360 Gary Morse. 01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:02.639 Yes, Gary Morse. 01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:03.920 What a great singer he was. 01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:04.960 Yep, yep, yep. 01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:06.000 Let me ask you this. 01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:06.719 Oh, go ahead. 01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:07.039 Go ahead. 01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:09.760 There you go. 01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:15.840 Now, if someone has never heard Woody Bradshaw, nobody's heard you, or that somebody hasn't heard you. 01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:19.199 What's the one song you want them to start with? 01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:22.880 Oh, of mine. 01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:29.519 I'd have to say the last thing you do. 01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:42.000 Just I mean, I didn't write that one, but that's just again, it's such a great song, great universal message of and I think that kind of stuff does reflect since then of the stuff I like to write. 01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:54.079 You know, of how important the people are in our lives that we love, and uh, you know, and and telling them that how much we love them every day, or watching our tongue when we're not very sweet, you know. 01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:56.320 Yeah, so yes, absolutely. 01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:57.519 Woody, you're awesome. 01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:02.239 And a one of my own, I would say, um, till the pieces fit. 01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:05.199 Uh, it's about my mom and dad, which has not been out yet. 01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:05.599 Yeah. 01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:08.880 Did you say is your dad still alive? 01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:11.519 No, he he passed in 2018. 01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:12.159 Okay. 01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:12.880 I'm sorry. 01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:13.199 Yeah. 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:13.920 Yeah, thank you. 01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:19.039 I heard you mention your mom, and then I just got thinking, yeah, I haven't heard you mention your dad, so I kind of figured. 01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:19.280 Yeah. 01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:20.880 My mom's gonna be a rough one. 01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:22.239 She's like my bestie. 01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:22.800 Yeah. 01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:25.519 And uh she's a one of a kind. 01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:32.239 And matter of fact, I'm doing a songwriter festival um October 1st at Pensacola, by the way, okay. 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.480 And it's called the Pensacola Songwriter Festival. 01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:38.480 And uh she'll be there. 01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:42.079 It's funny, even at the Bluebird, we talked about how quiet it is. 01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:44.239 You know, you're supposed to be quiet and very reverent. 01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:44.639 Yep. 01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:51.840 I think we were the only ones that when I sang there, um, my parents were both there, and my dad loved this till the pieces fit. 01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:53.440 The song is about kind of their story. 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:57.840 The first verse is about her, second, and then how they meet at the bridge. 01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:01.119 And uh, and I told him they were gonna act it out. 01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:11.840 My dad, he, like I said, he's very stoic, but he had his part to play, so he gets out of his chair and it goes uh he he smoked, he drank and smoke, you know. 01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:15.280 So he gets up and he throws his flicks his cigarette and stomps it. 01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:18.239 And then my mom would do her little part, and people love it. 01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:20.239 I love it. 01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:21.920 But she's the ham of the family. 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:24.960 My mom is she's she's funny. 01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:25.840 I love her. 01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:26.960 I love people like that. 01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:27.600 That's so cool. 01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:30.960 My parents are gone, but uh still, my mother-in-law is 98. 01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:35.199 So that's uh and her goal in life is to live to be 100. 01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:36.319 That's what she keeps saying. 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:37.439 That's a great goal. 01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:38.640 That's what I keep telling my mom. 01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:43.840 I said, You can go once you hit 100, but you have to still act like you do right now. 01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:48.319 Exactly, exactly, because it it ends up being a lot of work for somebody. 01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:58.159 I mean, thank God we have my wife's got a good family, a big family, and everybody is kind of chipping in to help, but yeah, still it's it's it's a lot of work, it's a lot of work. 01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:00.399 So, but uh Woody, I want to say thank you. 01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:14.880 You've taken an hour out of your time to to hang on Skip Happens, we got to know each other a little bit, and uh just you know, go to uh WoodyBradshaw.com, check out the music, check out the videos because I'm gonna be checking them out here in just a minute as well. 01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:17.359 And Woody, uh just again, thank you. 01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:18.880 Good luck to you. 01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:27.039 And um if you've been watching this or if you're watching down the road or you listen to it, please go to YouTube, Skip Happens Podcast. 01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:35.359 You're not only going to see Woody, you see a lot of the artists we've talked to, a lot of the big artists, a lot of the independent artists, and some great people, for example, Woody. 01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:37.119 So thank you for watching, everybody. 01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:40.159 Woody, I want you I want you to stay right there. 01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:42.960 And uh thank you for watching, y'all.