Jakson DC's Animation Excellence vs Marvel's Movie Mastery täydellinen litterointi

movie. 00:04:15.469 --> 00:04:27.391 Cool, let's scrap most of that, let's shoot a whole bunch of new scenes, that single Batman movie that Ben Affleck was supposed to do, fuck that. 00:04:30.041 --> 00:04:37.089 So when you say all right, live action, All right, all right, all right For DC, I would say their TV shows are good. 00:04:37.089 --> 00:04:38.906 Their TV shows are pretty good. 00:04:39.107 --> 00:04:42.365 Okay, I will agree with that. 00:04:42.365 --> 00:04:48.586 The movies the WB's Flash, the WB's Green Arrow Very good. 00:04:49.509 --> 00:04:50.230 What about Supergirl? 00:04:50.771 --> 00:04:51.192 I agree. 00:04:53.427 --> 00:04:54.230 What about CW's Supergirl? 00:04:56.062 --> 00:04:57.649 Sorry what I couldn't hear you. 00:04:58.480 --> 00:04:59.586 CW's Supergirl. 00:05:02.141 --> 00:05:03.225 Supergirl was decent. 00:05:05.081 --> 00:05:06.144 Supergirl was decent. 00:05:06.144 --> 00:05:07.848 Supergirl was decent. 00:05:07.848 --> 00:05:16.478 Uh, I the problem with supergirls, it felt like even in the comics, though, she's really used primarily as like a superman's on vacation. 00:05:16.706 --> 00:05:17.524 Here you go. 00:05:17.752 --> 00:05:21.730 No, not even that she's usually used as like a. 00:05:21.730 --> 00:05:24.384 No, not even that she's usually used as like a we got. 00:05:24.423 --> 00:05:25.327 Superman at home. 00:05:25.327 --> 00:05:26.230 We're not going against. 00:05:26.351 --> 00:05:30.865 Superman, she's a nexus to like the Tomorrowverse. 00:05:31.521 --> 00:05:32.464 That's Power Girl. 00:05:32.464 --> 00:05:36.298 We got Supergirl at home. 00:05:37.002 --> 00:05:39.048 I mean we got Legends of Tomorrow. 00:05:40.161 --> 00:05:41.567 Legends of Tomorrow was good. 00:05:41.567 --> 00:05:42.764 It was okay. 00:05:42.764 --> 00:05:45.245 I won't lie, though personal opinion. 00:05:45.245 --> 00:05:48.036 I feel like it went on a little too long yeah. 00:05:48.036 --> 00:05:53.588 Like they should have ended it and it was like, okay, cool, we're just continuing to keep going. 00:05:54.961 --> 00:06:02.192 That sounds very familiar in the MCU, where it was like all right, we wrap things up with you know, avengers. 00:06:03.153 --> 00:06:03.535 Hold on. 00:06:03.535 --> 00:06:05.204 So we still got. 00:06:05.204 --> 00:06:12.432 You had a what's that one, the one, but it was like the Justice Society, the kickoff of Justice Society. 00:06:12.432 --> 00:06:17.464 Was it like Stargirl or something like that? 00:06:18.908 --> 00:06:23.923 I mean, power Girl is an analog for Supergirl. 00:06:23.923 --> 00:06:26.391 I forget, forget where she originates from. 00:06:28.870 --> 00:06:36.728 We can't forget the greatest television show of all time, DC Gotham. 00:06:37.882 --> 00:06:39.569 That was something. 00:06:39.569 --> 00:06:43.387 Gotham was a I'll be honest. 00:06:43.387 --> 00:06:44.329 When Gotham was initially brought. 00:06:44.329 --> 00:06:57.386 I'll be honest when Gotham was initially brought up, I

thought it was going to be a Batman show Like, even as a young kid, Bruce Wayne, but still Batman-esque. 00:06:57.386 --> 00:07:05.543 And when it came out as like a gritty cop drama, I was not expecting that Following, young Jim Gordon cop drama. 00:07:05.562 --> 00:07:09.918 I was not expecting that following uh, following young jim jim gordon, you know what show? 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:23.786 because, like it boggles my mind, because the dctv shows the majority of them are really really good, like pennyworth, huh, that was good penguin. 00:07:23.805 --> 00:07:27.149 Penguin is good, penguin's solid too. 00:07:27.149 --> 00:07:31.432 Good lord, he immersed himself in that character. 00:07:32.233 --> 00:07:33.995 All the shows are great. 00:07:33.995 --> 00:07:35.297 I always sit there and say the shows are good. 00:07:35.297 --> 00:07:43.204 I still go back and watch the Lois and Clark Superman adventure with Dean Cain and Terry Hatcher. 00:07:43.204 --> 00:07:45.572 Terry Hatcher, I still watch that. 00:07:45.572 --> 00:07:49.040 It's 90s cheese. 00:07:49.060 --> 00:07:50.927 It was cheese, but it was good cheese. 00:07:50.987 --> 00:07:58.745 It was good cheese, that's like the Batman, like the Michael Keaton, val Kilmer, all those. 00:07:58.745 --> 00:08:00.711 They're cheesy. 00:08:00.711 --> 00:08:02.101 But they're cheesy in the part. 00:08:02.101 --> 00:08:07.168 At one point the man has a Batman MasterCard. 00:08:09.822 --> 00:08:11.387 Let's not forget about the bat nipples. 00:08:12.781 --> 00:08:13.605 With Bat Jordans. 00:08:17.105 --> 00:08:24.927 We sit there like even their failed shows were pretty good, Like River Power, yeah, Power with the 50 Cent Show. 00:08:24.927 --> 00:08:25.569 No, no, no. 00:08:31.401 --> 00:08:33.548 Shit that's in the DC universe. 00:08:34.230 --> 00:08:36.826 No, I didn't even know. 00:08:38.980 --> 00:08:39.865 Oh my god, that'd be good. 00:08:43.164 --> 00:08:45.150 That explains so much about Kanan. 00:08:46.330 --> 00:08:48.041 I'm gonna get you, batman, I'm sorry. 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:57.849 I don't know. 00:09:00.525 --> 00:09:01.708 Could you imagine? 00:09:01.749 --> 00:09:03.702 fucking Bruce Wayne Coming out Gotham. 00:09:03.702 --> 00:09:06.206 He was constantly going to war with the Joker. 00:09:06.206 --> 00:09:06.408 I'm dying. 00:09:06.427 --> 00:09:08.799 Can you imagine fucking Bruce Wayne coming out Gotham? 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:11.517 He's constantly going to war with the Joker. 00:09:11.517 --> 00:09:13.745 He has to you stole my chain, Joker. 00:09:15.621 --> 00:09:35.221 I don't know what you heard about me, but I got the whole Bat family after me, so this show is called Powerless. 00:09:35.241 --> 00:09:37.668 I'm sorry, oh okay, that's without 50 cent. 00:09:37.687 --> 00:09:40.413 I retract all previous jokes had a had a favorite person, abbott in it. 00:09:40.413 --> 00:09:41.917 You know our favorite person, abed. 00:09:41.917 --> 00:09:49.928 You know Vanessa Huggins and

then the great legendary DC character himself, alan Tudyk. 00:09:49.928 --> 00:09:53.846 So the show was great Like the show was. 00:09:53.846 --> 00:10:01.706 It was a great like attempt to be like, yeah, we're in a DC world, what if, like regular people in DC world, what they gotta go through? 00:10:01.706 --> 00:10:04.418 And everybody in the show was like working at a Wayne, at like Wayne go through. 00:10:04.418 --> 00:10:06.259 And everybody in the show was like working at a Wayne, at like Wayne Enterprises. 00:10:06.259 --> 00:10:14.791 And Alan Turdick played as Van Wayne, like the cousin of Bruce Wayne, who didn't know that Bruce was Batman. 00:10:14.791 --> 00:10:21.028 He just knows that Bruce gets all the accolades and he was so jealous of him that he just wants to be as cool as him. 00:10:21.028 --> 00:10:25.110 So, like, even his fellow show was actually pretty good. 00:10:25.110 --> 00:10:27.364 And then, of course, you know you got your um. 00:10:27.364 --> 00:10:28.767 What was the um? 00:10:28.767 --> 00:10:30.893 The Misfits one. 00:10:30.893 --> 00:10:37.527 The Misfits show, the one with uh, uh, brendan Fraser as the uh, as the Tin man. 00:10:39.552 --> 00:10:46.177 Oh fucking, oh shit, ah God damn it, and it was really really good shit, god damn it. 00:10:47.640 --> 00:10:51.591 And it was really really good too, because it had Cyborg in it. 00:10:56.230 --> 00:10:58.884 The Invisible man I love that research. 00:10:58.904 --> 00:11:00.809 Doom Patrol there it is. 00:11:00.809 --> 00:11:04.447 Doom Patrol was very good, doom Patrol was solid. 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:06.947 Their TV shows are pretty fucking Like. 00:11:06.947 --> 00:11:07.639 Tv shows are pretty awesome. 00:11:08.140 --> 00:11:09.200 No, I will also throw out, though. 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:10.287 So why can't they make a good fucking movie? 00:11:10.287 --> 00:11:12.365 I will throw out, though. 00:11:12.365 --> 00:11:26.267 Personally, I felt like whatever the budget on Doom Patrol was was abysmal, because, like I've seen them do better on like that robot dude did not like. 00:11:26.267 --> 00:11:28.684 He looked like a dude in a costume. 00:11:29.567 --> 00:11:31.370 It was, it was rough. 00:11:32.173 --> 00:11:33.383 No, cause that wasn't cyborg. 00:11:33.383 --> 00:11:35.850 That was like uh, how, what is he called? 00:11:36.191 --> 00:11:37.924 Oh, you're talking about Brendan Fraser's character. 00:11:38.144 --> 00:11:41.437 Oh yeah, yeah, Um, but you gotta remember his he was supposed to be. 00:11:41.453 --> 00:11:41.945 uh, he's cliff. 00:11:41.945 --> 00:11:46.648 He was supposed to be Cliff, Remember he was supposed to be made back in the 50s, or something like that. 00:11:47.349 --> 00:11:56.024 And I get that, but it looked so much like a dude in a costume it didn't look like I feel like it was supposed to. 00:11:59.532 --> 00:12:07.859 I'll give you that Because, honestly, they were probably going by the old character shirts that he was drawing before, so it was probably like a wink nudge towards people who were fans previously. 00:12:07.859 --> 00:12:11.768 So I'll take that yeah, he wasn't like. 00:12:12.241 --> 00:12:25.784 This wasn't like when Cliff was made, when he was created back in the 40s and 50s, they were still crude, making robots and stuff, sleek designs and stuff. 00:12:25.784 --> 00:12:27.307 Sleek designs and stuff. 00:12:28.190 --> 00:12:30.212 I mean GI Robot would disagree. 00:12:30.212 --> 00:12:30.854 But go off. 00:12:31.820 --> 00:12:33.386 GI Robot was animated dude. 00:12:37.427 --> 00:12:38.682 Let's live action, live action. 00:12:38.682 --> 00:12:39.746 Let's stick with that. 00:12:41.941 --> 00:12:42.524 We'll get there. 00:12:42.524 --> 00:12:46.246 We'll get to the animation part, because DC animation is fucking on point. 00:12:47.129 --> 00:12:47.431 Absolutely. 00:12:49.743 --> 00:12:50.787 If we're still talking about it. 00:12:50.787 --> 00:12:54.407 Personally, I know it was critically hated. 00:12:54.407 --> 00:12:57.226 Constantine was a banger for DC. 00:12:58.822 --> 00:12:59.586 I love Constantine. 00:13:01.860 --> 00:13:03.889 I'm still dying for a sequel. 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:06.123 What about Lucifer? 00:13:06.123 --> 00:13:08.970 That's a DC character, is it? 00:13:09.250 --> 00:13:10.253 Yeah, is it really? 00:13:10.253 --> 00:13:12.326 Yeah, lucifer is a DC character. 00:13:12.326 --> 00:13:16.591 I didn't know that the devil was a DC character. 00:13:16.591 --> 00:13:18.820 I'm here, me thinking it was all biblical. 00:13:19.041 --> 00:13:37.206 Well, I mean, technically, marvel does have Santa as an X-Men, so he is an Omega level mutant that makes sense how you deliver the presence one night 100% dog that does kind of work now so you got Lucifer. 00:13:37.842 --> 00:13:40.486 You had um, like Titans was. 00:13:40.486 --> 00:13:45.491 I think they could have did better with Titans. 00:13:47.701 --> 00:13:56.211 So I will say there were moments in Titans where I was really hooked and I was like, okay, this is great, I'm digging the story. 00:13:56.211 --> 00:13:57.525 I see what you're doing. 00:13:57.525 --> 00:14:03.623 I see you're drawing the lines primarily to the story everyone wants when it comes to Teen Titans. 00:14:03.623 --> 00:14:17.890 Primarily to the story everyone wants when it comes to Teen Titans, robin and Deathstroke Slade Wilson, whatever you want to call him, that whole pulling Robin to the dark side. 00:14:17.890 --> 00:14:25.297 The problem was that wasn't Because that was supposed to be Damien in Titans, right, yeah, it was supposed to be Damien in Titans, right, yeah, it was supposed to be Damien. 00:14:25.297 --> 00:14:28.515 So it immediately was out of place. 00:14:28.537 --> 00:14:32.510 No, no, no no, that wasn't supposed to be Damien. 00:14:32.510 --> 00:14:36.024 That Titan was supposed to be, not Dick. 00:14:36.024 --> 00:14:40.027 It wasn't supposed to be Dick, it was Jason Todd. 00:14:40.379 -->

00:14:41.587 It was supposed to be Jason Todd, wasn't? 00:14:41.607 --> 00:14:47.370 it yeah, it was supposed to be Jason Todd To calm his anger issues is why they put him on the team, or some shit, right, yeah. 00:14:47.370 --> 00:14:48.673 Yeah, it was supposed to be Jason Todd. 00:14:48.673 --> 00:14:53.302 I mean what before? 00:14:53.363 --> 00:14:54.104 he got killed or after? 00:14:54.104 --> 00:14:55.184 Is this pre or post Red Hood? 00:14:55.706 --> 00:15:04.553 So evidently, if I'm not mistaken in the later seasons he does come back as Red Hood yeah. 00:15:04.553 --> 00:15:37.966 Red Hood goes hard he does, but like they definitely tried to shoehorn in that storyline from a classic Teen Titans story with a different character, where it isn't going to make sense of like converting a good guy over to the darkness and then like it really being like like a double agent play Because, like when that happened to Dick in the comics and in the Teen Titans cartoon, that was a major thing, like we were all hooked to that. 00:15:40.501 --> 00:15:44.104 It's just Like DC shows are. 00:15:44.104 --> 00:15:51.820 They're good and sometimes they're you know a mess, but they're good, and sometimes they're you know, but they're so good though, like they do great jobs when they're serious. 00:15:51.820 --> 00:15:53.144 I mean Watchmen. 00:15:53.144 --> 00:15:58.625 That's part of well, you know DC owns that property, but I don't want to say it's a DC. 00:16:00.886 --> 00:16:05.183 I mean, it wasn't DC until it came over to like the HBO show. 00:16:05.365 --> 00:16:05.725 Yeah. 00:16:05.927 --> 00:16:06.308 Right. 00:16:08.206 --> 00:16:09.019 Stargirl, that's what it was. 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:15.273 Now it was in the comics, of course, and stuff whenever it was initially purchased or brought over. 00:16:15.273 --> 00:16:19.789 You can't count the original Watchmen movie. 00:16:20.659 --> 00:16:25.423 Superman and Lois I mean Smallville. 00:16:25.764 --> 00:16:26.625 Smallville yeah. 00:16:26.625 --> 00:16:31.302 Smallville was good, I'll be honest, I'm not a Superman fan. 00:16:31.302 --> 00:16:34.392 But people love Smallville. 00:16:35.241 --> 00:16:36.287 They did a great job. 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:39.109 It had cameos from heroes. 00:16:40.421 --> 00:16:45.832 Yeah, they did a great job of telling Clark Kent's story growing up before he became Superman. 00:16:45.832 --> 00:16:47.144 They did a great job on that. 00:16:47.144 --> 00:16:48.886 I think that's what they were trying to do with Gotham. 00:16:48.886 --> 00:16:51.369 They focused primarily on Jim Gordon. 00:16:51.369 --> 00:17:00.039 Bruce was there, popping up every once in a while but they focused more on all the villains in Gotham than they did on Bruce Wayne. 00:17:00.100 --> 00:17:03.630 I kind of want to bring up why I wanted to make this episode. 00:17:03.630 --> 00:17:13.932 John and I were having a conversation and this goes to the Marvel side because Marvel has a really hard time

making shows. 00:17:13.932 --> 00:17:17.730 They make great movies, but their shows are. 00:17:17.730 --> 00:17:23.731 And the key one that I brought up She-Hulk. 00:17:25.060 --> 00:17:37.215 And the key one that I brought up She-Hulk and I argued that if you look at the majority of Marvel's TV shows, they are not meant to be standalone things. 00:17:37.215 --> 00:17:41.063 They are connective tissue. 00:17:41.103 --> 00:17:45.071 First off, punisher standalone amazing John Bernthal killed it. 00:17:45.192 --> 00:17:45.913 Hold on pause. 00:17:45.913 --> 00:17:50.730 Because Punisher itself was spider-webbed through Daredevil. 00:17:50.730 --> 00:18:20.926 He had to be introduced and raised up through the Daredevil series before he even got a chance at his own show and, honestly, the Daredevil-Punisher thing was an anomaly in what they had been doing, because people attached to Daredevil so quickly during the pandemic and then they pumped out that Punisher show Like it was classic. 00:18:20.926 --> 00:18:23.732 It was everything you wanted, comic, accurate. 00:18:23.732 --> 00:18:39.088 Yes, I remember one moment in the Punisher show he literally stomps a dude's head and they don't cut away and I was like hell, yeah, this is Punisher. 00:18:40.914 --> 00:18:46.686 Yeah, but also the Marvel shows feel so small. 00:18:46.686 --> 00:18:48.311 I think that's what. 00:18:48.311 --> 00:18:54.551 I think that's what makes the show, the show's, not so great, because they feel so small, like with the dc. 00:18:54.551 --> 00:18:58.327 So you, you know, so you know who's supposed to be like, whose area it is. 00:18:58.327 --> 00:19:00.988 You're like this is taking place in gotham, so you know who's supposed to be around. 00:19:00.988 --> 00:19:03.911 This takes place in star city, so you know a central city, you know who's supposed to be around. 00:19:03.911 --> 00:19:05.349 They stay takes place in Star City, so you know, in Central City, you know who's supposed to be around. 00:19:05.349 --> 00:19:07.973 This takes place in Metropolis, so you know who's supposed to be around. 00:19:07.973 --> 00:19:09.256 Where are you watching? 00:19:09.256 --> 00:19:11.548 You know you're watching, let's say, the Defenders. 00:19:11.548 --> 00:19:16.320 You know this is placed in New York, so do you know that? 00:19:16.320 --> 00:19:24.813 Okay, we're looking at Luke Cage and Jessica Jones and Daredevil, and you know Iron Fist, but we also know it's New York, so why can't we see Spider-Man flying by? 00:19:24.813 --> 00:19:29.545 Or why can't freaking Cap be driving by? 00:19:31.462 --> 00:19:32.645 Do you want the answer to that? 00:19:32.645 --> 00:19:36.564 Yeah, because Sony owned it. 00:19:36.564 --> 00:19:41.182 Sony still owns Spider-Man, so that's why Spider-Man couldn't be swinging by. 00:19:41.241 --> 00:19:43.102 Well, that one, yeah, but why not? 00:19:43.102 --> 00:19:48.507 Iron Fist, luke Cage, jessica Jones, captain America, how many other characters?

00:19:48.951 --> 00:19:49.539 live in New York. 00:19:49.539 --> 00:19:53.548 Hold on Captain America's from New York, but let's not get it twisted. 00:19:53.548 --> 00:19:58.060 He's not hanging out in New York all the time, then where? 00:19:58.080 --> 00:19:58.960 the fuck does he live that? 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:00.386 man is globetrotting. 00:20:01.059 --> 00:20:01.801 That's my question. 00:20:01.801 --> 00:20:05.471 This is my question because you have all these different characters who live in New York. 00:20:05.471 --> 00:20:08.008 I'm from Brooklyn, I'm from Bed-Stuy, So-and-so forgot you. 00:20:08.008 --> 00:20:10.382 You can't go two blocks and help out Luke Cage neighborhood. 00:20:10.382 --> 00:20:11.567 I'm sorry, this is just me and my soapbox. 00:20:11.567 --> 00:20:15.887 You just you couldn't go over there and help out. 00:20:15.887 --> 00:20:17.461 You said they got explosions and shit like that. 00:20:17.461 --> 00:20:18.144 No, I can't help you. 00:20:18.203 --> 00:20:33.471 You ain't on 71st neighborhood spider-man well in in that defense I mean luke cage probably told him get the fuck out of my neighborhood, I handle this myself so can't use luke cage as a good, as a good example on that one, but also very good explanation for that one. 00:20:33.491 --> 00:20:37.644 Yeah, yeah, like which I'm gonna be honest the the luke cage show. 00:20:37.644 --> 00:20:40.392 It was perfect. 00:20:40.392 --> 00:20:42.738 I I loved every moment watching that show. 00:20:42.738 --> 00:20:51.989 The soundtrack like there was one moment where he's standing across from the drug house and Wu-Tang's protected net comes on and I went, oh shit. 00:20:54.300 --> 00:20:55.306 So, they're live action shows. 00:20:55.306 --> 00:20:59.122 I think because they feel like Okay. 00:20:59.403 --> 00:21:02.203 all those shows, though, were pre-Disney. 00:21:03.428 --> 00:21:04.892 True, this was before the mouse. 00:21:04.892 --> 00:21:06.502 I'm going to be honest. 00:21:06.502 --> 00:21:07.126 No, no, no, they were pre-Disney. 00:21:07.146 --> 00:21:07.770 True, this was before the mouse. 00:21:07.770 --> 00:21:08.233 I'm going to be honest. 00:21:08.233 --> 00:21:09.200 No, no, no, no, they were part of the mouse. 00:21:11.423 --> 00:21:12.646 The Punisher was not part of the mouse. 00:21:13.650 --> 00:21:14.311 Yes, 100%. 00:21:14.311 --> 00:21:20.484 I'm on Marvel's thing right now Marvel series on Disney+. 00:21:20.484 --> 00:21:22.165 Marvel's the Punisher. 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:24.646 Yeah, everything's on Disney+ Now. 00:21:25.249 --> 00:21:26.875 Now, yeah, they's on Disney+ now. 00:21:27.940 --> 00:21:29.826 They licensed it through Netflix, but it's still their property. 00:21:31.369 --> 00:21:34.507 No, remember, the mouse owns Marvel. 00:21:34.507 --> 00:21:37.868 They've had it since when They've owned Marvel for a long time, Since like 92. 00:21:38.980 --> 00:21:39.983 Really 92? 00:21:39.983 --> 00:21:40.988 I don't know about 92. 00:21:40.988 --> 00:21:42.323 Hold on. 00:21:42.564 --> 00:21:44.844 Blade, you forget Blade's what kicked it off? 00:21:44.844 --> 00:21:45.105 I get that. 00:21:45.105 --> 00:21:45.810 I don't believe about 92. 00:21:45.830 --> 00:21:45.971 Blade. 00:21:45.971 --> 00:21:46.917 You forget Blade's what kicked it off? 00:21:46.917 --> 00:21:47.140 I get that. 00:21:47.140 --> 00:21:49.250 I don't believe the mouse was in charge of that. 00:21:49.259 --> 00:21:51.530 Blade is the original OG superhero and I fucking love Blade. 00:21:51.530 --> 00:21:55.885 And thank you, wesley Snipes 2009 was the deal. 00:21:56.548 --> 00:21:57.109 There we go. 00:21:57.109 --> 00:21:58.428 I'm about to say that makes more sense. 00:21:58.579 --> 00:22:00.969 Yeah, because 92 is when they start selling their properties off. 00:22:00.969 --> 00:22:07.656 Yeah, that's when 92 was when Marvel was selling itself off piece by piece, just to survive. 00:22:07.656 --> 00:22:10.266 So that's why I went back to 92. 00:22:10.688 --> 00:22:16.048 But yeah the last thing we got before Marvel was bought by. 00:22:16.067 --> 00:22:18.067 Disney was like the X-Men trilogy. 00:22:18.067 --> 00:22:20.877 Yeah, no, what I'm thinking is before. 00:22:20.877 --> 00:22:29.931 What I'm thinking is pre-Disney Plus, before the mouse started, so pre-pandemic. 00:22:29.931 --> 00:22:33.603 Yeah, before the mouse started saying oh shit, hold on. 00:22:33.603 --> 00:22:36.151 All these people are making all this money streaming our shit. 00:22:36.151 --> 00:22:39.367 Let's make our own streaming shit and make the money, right. 00:22:40.029 --> 00:22:41.984 No, I agree with that, but I see what you're going for. 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:53.200 Well, see and I feel like that was the moment where it really takes my argument a little bit further with the, that's when they started using TV shows as connective tissue. 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:58.452 For example, they're wanting to bring Moon Knight as a movie eventually. 00:22:58.452 --> 00:23:05.911 Well, they started him off as a character they know, hawkeye isn't as popular as most of the. 00:23:05.911 --> 00:23:15.170 We're not gonna get another season of moon night I I feel the same way about hawkeye, because hawkeye the show was amazing love. 00:23:15.190 --> 00:23:17.715 The hawkeye show was good it was really good. 00:23:18.377 --> 00:23:29.489 My only problem I'm having with this is connective tissue idealism is that for some odd reason, it's like without the sum of its parts, you lose steam, and if you miss one part of a connection. 00:23:29.489 --> 00:23:32.763 It's like you don't have the full embodiment of the show that you're trying to watch. 00:23:32.763 --> 00:23:36.541 Perfect example that, like all this, everything has its own show. 00:23:36.541 --> 00:23:37.263 Now which? 00:23:37.404 --> 00:23:44.023 honestly, as a moviegoer, it pisses me off yeah, like everything post in game is like they're chasing the dragon. 00:23:44.023 -->

00:23:50.275 They're trying to capture that lightning in the bottle again and it's not fucking working for them, except for little bits here and there. 00:23:51.019 --> 00:23:53.930 See, and this is where I got a chance to talk to you, Stan Lee, of course. 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:57.950 I mean granted, but I'm going to steer the argument. 00:23:57.950 --> 00:24:00.646 So did you guys watch the what If series? 00:24:00.646 --> 00:24:02.191 Yes, yes. 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:02.901 No. 00:24:02.901 --> 00:24:04.105 I watched a little bit, not the whole. 00:24:04.125 --> 00:24:13.270 thing if series, yes, yes, no, I watched a little bit, not the whole thing, okay, so the first season it ends with that dr strange one which actually leads into the multiverse of madness. 00:24:13.270 --> 00:24:24.711 Uh, the loki tv series leading into these other, what should have been the kang movie, um, you know, yeah, that's what I'm saying. 00:24:24.711 --> 00:24:34.011 The falcon and the winter soldier really turning into the introduction of falcon becoming captain america, wandavision merging into the. 00:24:34.011 --> 00:24:38.086 What if it's all connective tissue, the, the she-hulk. 00:24:38.086 --> 00:24:44.766 Granted, it was a little bit of a miss in the connective there are more misses than just She-Hulk. 00:24:45.768 --> 00:24:46.970 I mean not a lot. 00:24:46.970 --> 00:24:49.134 Ms Marvel wasn't too terrible. 00:24:51.763 --> 00:24:52.204 It wasn't great. 00:24:52.204 --> 00:24:54.068 I didn't like they had to water her down Like. 00:24:54.288 --> 00:24:55.090 Marvel would. 00:24:55.771 --> 00:24:59.250 Yeah, they Kara Davers had a fucked up past Like her shit was fucked. 00:24:59.250 --> 00:24:59.791 No, no, no, no. 00:24:59.791 --> 00:25:01.788 No, I'm talking about Ms Marvel, not Captain Marvel. 00:25:01.788 --> 00:25:06.080 Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:25:06.080 --> 00:25:10.132 Yeah, the TV show, yeah, I feel like they didn't really do her character a ton of justice, but it was all right. 00:25:11.002 --> 00:25:12.368 Yeah, they swapped her, for you know. 00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.970 X-Men 97, but that's more animated again. 00:25:16.940 --> 00:25:18.105 Yeah, the fact that they made her a mutant. 00:25:18.105 --> 00:25:24.700 They swapped Ms Marvel into a mutant to explain her powers, marvel into a mutant to explain her powers. 00:25:25.884 --> 00:25:30.413 I see here we're supposed to be getting an Ironheart TV series which kind of interests me. 00:25:31.378 --> 00:25:33.799 Yeah, because she has replaced Tony. 00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:36.723 Tony is not there, no more. 00:25:36.723 --> 00:25:37.185 In Ironheart. 00:25:37.185 --> 00:25:38.705 She is there. 00:25:38.705 --> 00:25:44.780 They're Ironman right now, and she even has Tony Stark as her mentor. 00:25:44.800 --> 00:25:47.878 He pops up and gives her know they're iron man right now, and she even has tony stark as her uh, as a mentor system. 00:25:47.919 --> 00:25:55.404 Yeah, he pops up and, you know,

gives her, you know, points and ideas of what she need to do and everything is it going to be rdj? 00:25:55.404 --> 00:25:58.531 I don't know if they're going to do it in this tv show. 00:25:58.551 --> 00:26:02.799 They probably can't afford it it makes me wonder because, uh, they probably still have that man on the contract. 00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:05.953 I mean, they are bringing him back as dr doom, so they probably have they probably still have that man under contract. 00:26:05.973 --> 00:26:09.907 I mean, they are bringing him back as Doctor Doom, they probably have a Jarvis, or you know, gal Friday. 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:13.586 Yeah, I just once again. 00:26:13.586 --> 00:26:28.215 It's really frustrating as an OG moviegoer that now that you have to watch these microcosms of shows instead of just like watching the films and you'd be completely caught up by watching two or three films Now I gotta watch 16 series just to see what the hell happened in between time. 00:26:28.416 --> 00:26:30.805 But no, so that to your point. 00:26:30.805 --> 00:26:31.428 That's. 00:26:31.428 --> 00:26:52.721 The problem is, if you watch these shows, it really doesn't advance anything like remember, agent and shield was supposed to be like the big connector, like after what happened with the avengers, you go to the shield and you're supposed to be like all right, while the avengers away doing stuff, agent and shield, the agent and shield go to Agent of the Shield and you're supposed to be like alright, while the Avengers are away doing stuff, the Agent of the Shield are running in the background looking for the next issue that they're going to bring to the Avengers. 00:26:52.721 --> 00:26:54.769 Like, oh hey, here's the next problem, you guys will solve it. 00:26:55.921 --> 00:26:57.023 And I thought that was well done. 00:26:57.023 --> 00:26:59.570 I'll give them that I liked it. 00:27:00.721 --> 00:27:06.810 It was done the first two seasons, like when Nick Fury showed up, oh snap, we're connected. 00:27:06.810 --> 00:27:11.211 We're connected to the universe, the movie universe, when Fury showed up. 00:27:14.027 --> 00:27:15.651 And I get that side of things. 00:27:15.651 --> 00:27:19.400 But I look at it not from the moviegoer side of things. 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:39.290 I look at it from the comic book side of things where I'm like, oh, there's all these different stories going on and sometimes they'll connect and dovetail together and like cause, like I'm I'm essentially looking at this as like independent stories that come up and, like I said, like weave together and create sometimes a bigger narrative. 00:27:39.290 --> 00:27:46.067 Sometimes it leads to nothing, Sometimes it's a one shot, Like the defenders was cool. 00:27:46.067 --> 00:27:50.770 I didn't really need a second season or anything to ever come from it. 00:27:53.861 --> 00:27:56.390 But that's the problem with the Marvel show is. 00:27:56.390 --> 00:28:04.833 Me personally as a comic book

reader reader. 00:28:04.833 --> 00:28:14.099 Marvel stories are not interesting, maybe like their big events yes, but you know, their regular stories. 00:28:14.099 --> 00:28:16.015 I'll go grab a Deadpool. 00:28:17.824 --> 00:28:21.046 I'll definitely grab an X-Men, but everything else everybody else. 00:28:21.086 --> 00:28:46.351 I'm like yeah, I'm good, I'd rather DC grab like two or three different stories and see where they're at well, to be fair, that also falls back on, like the like the real focus of dc comics when it started, the detective comics that, like they, really they had a lot of like batman doing investigating, even superman being an investigative reporter. 00:28:46.351 --> 00:28:53.469 There was a lot of intrigue, a lot of mystery, whereas Marvel was always more of, oh, the big bad. 00:28:54.612 --> 00:28:54.813 Yeah. 00:28:55.140 --> 00:29:01.618 Like the big bad of the week, the big bad of the month, whatever Right. 00:29:03.201 --> 00:29:06.968 You sit there and you look at these shows, all right, all right, so we're going to name off some of these Marvel shows. 00:29:06.968 --> 00:29:07.229 Right? 00:29:07.229 --> 00:29:16.008 So we had Incredible Hulk with Lou Ferrigno so that was pretty cool. 00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:21.832 I mean, we're going that far back, I'm naming them off that means. 00:29:21.873 --> 00:29:22.779 I get to go Adam West Batman. 00:29:22.779 --> 00:29:23.363 I'm excited. 00:29:23.383 --> 00:29:25.782 Let's do it oh shit, the number one Batman in my heart. 00:29:25.782 --> 00:29:26.765 Holy press of metal Batman. 00:29:26.765 --> 00:29:27.605 That means I get to go. 00:29:27.605 --> 00:29:28.146 Adam West Batman. 00:29:28.146 --> 00:29:28.887 I'm excited, let's do it. 00:29:28.907 --> 00:29:29.849 Oh shit, the number one Batman in my heart. 00:29:29.849 --> 00:29:31.030 Holy press of metal Batman. 00:29:31.030 --> 00:29:33.255 He wasn't the first, but he was the best. 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:40.807 He even had an Avenger hookup in that show and then Cloak and Dagger. 00:29:40.807 --> 00:29:44.614 There was so much teenage angst in that one. 00:29:45.984 --> 00:29:46.667 I wasn't a fan. 00:29:48.321 --> 00:29:48.663 Hold on. 00:29:48.663 --> 00:29:54.744 Are we talking about the 2019 Cloak and Dagger, or are we talking about a Cloak and Dagger from the 90s? 00:29:54.744 --> 00:29:57.707 You jumped from Incredible Hulk with Lou Ferrigno. 00:29:59.311 --> 00:30:01.085 I'm just going down this list right here. 00:30:01.085 --> 00:30:03.599 I got the Incredible Hulk. 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:05.144 If you want me to incredible. 00:30:05.988 --> 00:30:08.046 I take it we're not doing chronological order here. 00:30:08.527 --> 00:30:12.866 That's what I'm saying, if we're just talking about random shows like that. 00:30:12.866 --> 00:30:13.448 That's the thing is. 00:30:13.448 --> 00:30:18.835 There was a lot of these shows that just could be thrown away the runaways I never. 00:30:18.835 --> 00:30:20.259 I never watched the runaways. 00:30:20.259 --> 00:30:21.505 How do they get two seasons? 00:30:22.426 --> 00:30:25.273 I didn't even know that that was a fucking dc show, that's. 00:30:25.273 --> 00:30:26.477 I never even watched it. 00:30:26.477 --> 00:30:27.445 That's a marvel show. 00:30:28.288 --> 00:30:29.731 I don't know who the fuck it is. 00:30:29.731 --> 00:30:31.276 I never watched it the runaway, see. 00:30:31.276 --> 00:30:32.306 But here's the thing about it. 00:30:32.306 --> 00:30:33.788 The runaways was an interesting story. 00:30:33.788 --> 00:30:35.972 Like Like okay, so you know how you had. 00:30:35.972 --> 00:30:36.693 Like the Teen Titans over in DC. 00:30:36.713 --> 00:30:37.154 Oh no, that's the thing. 00:30:37.154 --> 00:30:38.657 The characters are interesting. 00:30:38.939 --> 00:30:39.038 Yeah. 00:30:40.608 --> 00:30:42.375 Like I've seen stories about them. 00:30:42.375 --> 00:30:48.317 The video game Midnight Suns focuses heavily on some of the characters from the Runaways. 00:30:49.205 --> 00:30:50.086 Like you had. 00:30:50.086 --> 00:30:50.929 Like you had. 00:30:50.929 --> 00:30:55.836 Like you had the Teen Titans and then, of course, had like the Teen Titans over in DC. 00:30:55.836 --> 00:31:02.491 What you do with your, you know your younger, younger heroes, or you know those who just that figure out what their, your powers are going to be. 00:31:02.491 --> 00:31:03.434 That was your. 00:31:03.434 --> 00:31:08.930 What I would run away it's Marvel's runaways was like hey, we had these powers, what are we going to do with it? 00:31:14.153 --> 00:31:14.874 Like I gotta try to do good. 00:31:14.913 --> 00:31:26.971 I better do something At one point one character's storyline is I just want to be a normal teenager, but my mom's in a cult and wants to sacrifice me to the devil. 00:31:27.394 --> 00:31:27.935 Exactly. 00:31:27.935 --> 00:31:35.029 The kids are like I got these powers, I just want to live life, but all their parents are villains. 00:31:35.939 --> 00:31:38.170 They're literally running a villain organization. 00:31:38.190 --> 00:31:41.790 They would be part of the. 00:31:41.810 --> 00:31:43.115 Legion of Doom or something. 00:31:43.234 --> 00:31:46.913 Yeah, that would make Runaways kind of interesting. 00:31:46.913 --> 00:31:50.791 Season 2 was like okay, what are we doing? 00:31:52.166 --> 00:31:55.218 But if I'm being honest, that could have been one season. 00:31:55.621 --> 00:31:57.073 Yeah, it could have If you put that whole show into one season. 00:31:57.093 --> 00:31:57.738 that could have been one season. 00:31:57.738 --> 00:32:05.174 If you put that whole show into one season, that would have been great, Especially if it would have had Daredevil level writing. 00:32:06.306 --> 00:32:11.931 But it was a Hulu show, though I don't think they got Daredevil level money. 00:32:11.931 --> 00:32:14.287 That's what. 00:32:14.307 --> 00:32:16.535 I was going to bring up Maybe now. 00:32:17.105 --> 00:32:23.051

No, no, because Hulu was partially owned by 3, because ABC, disney and Fox. 00:32:23.588 --> 00:32:31.894 I'm saying they're locked in with Disney, like Disney Plus and all that stuff before Disney completely took it over. 00:32:32.290 --> 00:32:35.393 Fox was kicking in money, so they had money, but it was a Hulu show. 00:32:35.393 --> 00:32:41.794 It was like one of those hey, come to Hulu and watch our show on Hulu, because we got this going Go ahead. 00:32:43.566 --> 00:32:43.705 No. 00:32:43.705 --> 00:32:49.753 I will say like as of right now, though, because I feel like at this moment we're in a lull. 00:32:49.753 --> 00:32:59.098 What Marvel show, what Marvel like movie is coming up that's supposed to? 00:32:59.098 --> 00:33:02.595 I've not heard anything crazy coming from Marvel lately. 00:33:05.288 --> 00:33:05.569 Movie-wise. 00:33:05.569 --> 00:33:06.718 You're talking about the movie side. 00:33:07.121 --> 00:33:09.512 I'm talking about TV show anime. 00:33:09.512 --> 00:33:11.951 What's their next big thing? 00:33:13.425 --> 00:33:17.036 That's the problem I don't think they even know. 00:33:18.630 --> 00:33:20.703 Look at your character, know Well, I mean look at your character lineup. 00:33:22.008 --> 00:33:24.748 Here for a perfect example, Dante and I. 00:33:24.748 --> 00:33:30.366 I don't know if Tim has seen it, but we've seen the new Falcon or Captain America. 00:33:30.366 --> 00:33:30.949 Brave New World. 00:33:31.971 --> 00:33:41.133 I'll put it on my list though so yeah, so what he was like. 00:33:41.473 --> 00:33:49.848 Okay, spoiler alert, your big reveal in this was thought about rose. 00:33:49.848 --> 00:33:51.672 Thought about ross is red hulk. 00:33:51.672 --> 00:33:53.875 That's your big reveal. 00:33:53.875 --> 00:34:02.911 Like you sit in this movie and they're like the crescendo, the climax, the big part is Roscoe's Red Hulk. 00:34:02.911 --> 00:34:08.054 It's like you showed me that in the trailer and at the same time, as soon as I saw Thunderbolt Ross, I'm like it's fucking Red Hulk. 00:34:08.054 --> 00:34:12.769 Like we remember that back from the Edward Norton Hulk movie. 00:34:13.632 --> 00:34:13.853 Yeah. 00:34:14.375 --> 00:34:18.974 Like you movie. 00:34:18.974 --> 00:34:19.985 You're not showing me anything new here. 00:34:19.985 --> 00:34:21.425 I just don't understand the casting on that. 00:34:21.425 --> 00:34:22.987 Don't get me wrong. 00:34:22.987 --> 00:34:24.731 Harrison Ford, great actor. 00:34:26.317 --> 00:34:28.592 He's Han Solo in Indiana Jones. 00:34:29.204 --> 00:34:30.530 Yeah, but how old is that man? 00:34:30.530 --> 00:34:35.195 And not to mention, he essentially hates those characters. 00:34:35.195 --> 00:34:40.931 The man he plays characters that he doesn't want to continue playing. 00:34:42.173 --> 00:34:44.509 It kind of shows on screen too sometimes. 00:34:44.509 --> 00:34:47.195 I'm not going to lie. 00:34:47.836 --> 00:34:48.197 But like. 00:34:50.018 --> 00:34:50.804 I have an issue with that? 00:34:50.804 --> 00:34:52.771 Yeah, but you know what he doesn't hate Money. 00:34:53.853 --> 00:35:05.751 Like I think that's the big problem with the, with this Marvel side is, besides what, spider-man, the next Spider-Man? 00:35:05.791 --> 00:35:06.373 Tom Holland. 00:35:06.373 --> 00:35:10.610 There's not really any new up-and-coming actors that are. 00:35:12.326 --> 00:35:14.152 The Tom Holland Spider-Man and the animated one. 00:35:14.152 --> 00:35:16.474 We're all looking forward to that one. 00:35:16.474 --> 00:35:17.137 Oh, the Spider-Man. 00:35:17.157 --> 00:35:17.579 And the animated one. 00:35:17.579 --> 00:35:22.554 We're all looking forward to that one, oh, the Spider-Verse that's coming out to be announced. 00:35:23.353 --> 00:35:26.429 Yeah, probably 26, probably going to come 26, maybe 27. 00:35:26.429 --> 00:35:26.911 Who knows? 00:35:28.295 --> 00:35:28.996 Maybe 28. 00:35:30.606 --> 00:35:33.572 We're waiting on those two, I bet we get it before we get GTA 6. 00:35:40.135 --> 00:35:46.653 See what you did there I mean popping back over to DC shows, though. 00:35:46.653 --> 00:35:52.989 I mean there was a Constantine show that they had for a season. 00:35:52.989 --> 00:35:55.115 Black Lightning was pretty solid. 00:35:56.485 --> 00:35:57.161 Yeah, I thought it was entertaining. 00:35:57.161 --> 00:35:57.500 Oh, I didn't get to see that one. 00:35:57.500 --> 00:35:57.702 Was it good? 00:35:57.648 --> 00:35:58.032 Lightning was pretty solid. 00:35:58.032 --> 00:35:58.394 Yeah, I thought it was entertaining. 00:35:58.394 --> 00:35:58.697 Oh, I didn't get to see that one. 00:35:58.697 --> 00:35:59.059 Was it good? 00:35:59.059 --> 00:36:00.019 Yeah, it was pretty good. 00:36:00.019 --> 00:36:01.041 It was pretty solid. 00:36:02.766 --> 00:36:03.067 It's on. 00:36:03.106 --> 00:36:03.909 CW too. 00:36:03.909 --> 00:36:08.951 Let's be real, they really CW took care of the shows. 00:36:10.427 --> 00:36:10.467 CW. 00:36:10.467 --> 00:36:11.391 They do it good. 00:36:11.391 --> 00:36:12.548 They did a great job with it. 00:36:12.548 --> 00:36:15.030 Just fucking let CW do all the fucking TV shows. 00:36:18.125 --> 00:36:22.985 Now I will say personal opinion I don't want to. 00:36:22.985 --> 00:36:25.934 I haven't seen and I don't want to see the Peacemaker TV show. 00:36:25.934 --> 00:36:31.454 I don't care, I liked it. 00:36:31.454 --> 00:36:35.894 This is just because I don't like the idea of Peacemaker as a character. 00:36:35.894 --> 00:36:37.909 Why I thought he was. 00:36:37.909 --> 00:36:54.190 I like thought he was great in the things that I've seen, like the Suicide Squad, things like that, but like the Peacemaker is like the weakest attempt at a parallel to the Nova Corps. 00:36:56.793 --> 00:37:01.873 I thought you were going to say I do not agree or align with that at all. 00:37:02.545 --> 00:37:04.684 That's an interesting perspective, though I'll take that. 00:37:05.146 --> 00:37:07.414 His whole gimmick

is like it's a wrong perspective, but you know. 00:37:07.414 --> 00:37:17.547 Because, if I'm not mistaken, in their universe he's like the last Peacemaker, right yeah? 00:37:17.586 --> 00:37:19.012 his dad was Pe, was peacemaker. 00:37:19.132 --> 00:37:34.974 Now it's him yeah, because originally, like they were just like a police, like a, an evil villain police force in like the comics and stuff, we didn't need to make one of those, uh, a tv show. 00:37:34.974 --> 00:37:36.458 We didn't need to make one of those a TV show. 00:37:39.246 --> 00:37:40.150 That's a background. 00:37:40.170 --> 00:37:42.454 Minion that they made a main character. 00:37:43.646 --> 00:37:44.731 But that's how you. 00:37:45.329 --> 00:37:50.480 Instead of doing something new, instead of doing something that people wanted. 00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:51.003 They did. 00:37:51.003 --> 00:37:54.751 They did something new by making the Peacemaker show. 00:37:54.751 --> 00:37:57.873 That's not what I mean by new, though. 00:37:58.125 --> 00:38:03.954 What I mean is new with a new main character, like bigger character that people are wanting to see. 00:38:03.954 --> 00:38:06.532 It's like all right, we're going to take this like Name one. 00:38:06.532 --> 00:38:09.528 That's what you're supposed to do. 00:38:09.528 --> 00:38:10.411 What do you mean, though? 00:38:10.411 --> 00:38:18.777 Name one, a Justice League regular movie that doesn't suck like the Whedon one? 00:38:18.777 --> 00:38:21.990 That isn't technically four hours long. 00:38:22.666 --> 00:38:23.670 But this is what you're supposed to do. 00:38:23.670 --> 00:38:28.251 You have this roster of characters and you put them on screen. 00:38:28.251 --> 00:38:40.090 If people react to hey, we like this character, then let's write this horse you brought Peacemaker as a gimmick and people loved him because everybody loves John Cena. 00:38:40.090 --> 00:38:49.380 It's like yo, let's keep riding this, even though he had a short run in comics, which, oh my god, this series was so fucking stupid. 00:38:49.405 --> 00:38:53.213 But then we turn around and in upcoming we've got Lanterns in 2026. 00:38:53.213 --> 00:38:54.356 That's interesting. 00:38:55.867 --> 00:38:57.474 And we should have been had Lanterns. 00:38:57.474 --> 00:39:00.092 I can't believe it took this long for Lanterns. 00:39:00.485 --> 00:39:05.452 Well, to be fair, Ryan Reynolds did his damage. 00:39:05.452 --> 00:39:12.014 Yeah, I love that man, I love that man to death. 00:39:12.014 --> 00:39:13.311 That movie is so bad. 00:39:14.528 --> 00:39:20.766 He went back in his own universe as Deadpool and killed not only himself and the character he's forgiven. 00:39:20.766 --> 00:39:21.909 In my opinion, he's good. 00:39:22.170 --> 00:39:23.472 Let it die. 00:39:23.472 --> 00:39:27.864 We're not going to talk about it anymore. 00:39:28.164 --> 00:39:33.036 But DC did it right by bringing these characters and giving them a run Like Kite man. 00:39:33.036 --> 00:39:42.132 I know we're going to the anime side, but Kite man, this dude, was not supposed to be a somebody he's like C or D, tier villain. 00:39:43.266 --> 00:39:44.436 Okay, two things, though. 00:39:44.436 --> 00:39:44.847 Two things. 00:39:44.867 --> 00:39:46.708 I'll throw out there, though One. 00:39:46.708 --> 00:39:52.731 I feel like with the animated universe you can get away with things like that, where it's like throwaway characters. 00:39:52.731 --> 00:39:59.364 If Peacemaker would have been a cartoon like an animated cartoon, that would have been okay. 00:40:00.648 --> 00:40:13.150 I don't want to see a whole live action series about peacemaker I don't know, I kind of want to see a live action kite man but now the second thing is there. 00:40:13.570 --> 00:40:24.472 now there is a real good storyline involving Kite man in the comics that made him iconic in the comics, which is like where the Joker gets depressed. 00:40:24.472 --> 00:40:36.836 The Riddler tries to make him laugh and the way he does it is essentially by building up Kite man to thinking he can take down Batman, and then Batman, beating the shit out of him, goes justice. 00:40:43.746 --> 00:40:44.947 That is awesome and that makes the joker laugh. 00:40:44.967 --> 00:41:05.342 that's awesome, right there that adds some villain shit right there like yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pretty villainous see, that makes him a great villain right there, like you know what well, and the thing is that that literally developed kite man into like one of those like high level meme characters in the dc universe, which is it's understood. 00:41:05.822 --> 00:41:08.931 It's understandable why he would get like a little short tv show. 00:41:08.931 --> 00:41:14.168 Now I don't know how long it's going on for, because it's at least one season now. 00:41:14.168 --> 00:41:14.489 Is there? 00:41:14.489 --> 00:41:16.072 Are they more of it? 00:41:16.534 --> 00:41:24.690 They could probably run a second season out of it, because I mean Bane like Bane alone in that series bouncing around in both Harley Quinn and Kite man. 00:41:25.253 --> 00:41:25.675 That's true. 00:41:27.487 --> 00:41:29.719 I did because I haven't watched the whole series of Kite man. 00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:30.403 I love that version of Bane. 00:41:30.423 --> 00:41:38.018 so much I was like I haven't seen the whole series of Kite man, but I did see a couple episodes with Bane in it and that was fucking hilarious. 00:41:38.967 --> 00:41:41.190 And here's one thing I want to bring up to you guys. 00:41:41.190 --> 00:41:44.726 It's like, alright, we're looking at the DC side, like we're even there. 00:41:44.726 --> 00:41:55.355 You have your big three, you have the Trinity and you have a whole lot of side characters like hey, everybody's getting a chance on screen and you know, people are liking some of their stuff and some they might not. 00:41:55.355 --> 00:42:05.389 If you go over to the Marvel side, your main cast of the

Avengers, because apparently the X-Men do not exist in the MCU. 00:42:06.686 --> 00:42:12.806 Well, I mean now with you know the whole Brave New World movie. 00:42:12.806 --> 00:42:15.474 We know the X-Men are coming. 00:42:15.474 --> 00:42:17.630 Yeah, it really chuffs me to no end movie. 00:42:17.630 --> 00:42:34.675 We know that X-Men are coming, which really chuffs me to no end, that they're like oh, here's the celestial that we haven't talked about at all because that movie was so fucking bad no mention of it in any other TV show or movie. 00:42:35.273 --> 00:42:36.025 And then all of a sudden. 00:42:36.405 --> 00:42:42.333 Oh, by the way, here's a dead celestial in the Indian Ocean, not the Atlantic, not the Pacific. 00:42:42.333 --> 00:42:45.574 You know the two biggest, the Indian, a very small one. 00:42:45.574 --> 00:42:48.391 We're just going to fucking gloss over that. 00:42:50.315 --> 00:42:51.378 Nobody's noticed it. 00:42:53.210 --> 00:42:58.027 Can I just pinhole one thing in particular, one thing that's always bothered me is that we have scarlet witch. 00:42:58.027 --> 00:43:02.914 Right, we're gonna talk about the scarlet witch we're gonna talk about her we're gonna call about quicksilver not a good shit, right? 00:43:02.914 --> 00:43:16.190 So we can't talk about her father being the single most devastating, fucking vicious villain on the fucking planet, and he can't tie into it at all because someone had the rule of the word mutant yeah, like that's the thing, yeah wanda is a mutant. 00:43:16.570 --> 00:43:18.217 And's what made me pissed off about it. 00:43:18.217 --> 00:43:20.952 It was Quicksilver and Wanda are mutants. 00:43:21.824 --> 00:43:23.431 Quicksilver had to die, not a mutant. 00:43:24.846 --> 00:43:25.731 And it made me so mad. 00:43:25.731 --> 00:43:27.409 I was like wait, you're just going to end Quicksilver. 00:43:27.409 --> 00:43:29.335 What do you call him inhuman? 00:43:30.952 --> 00:43:33.286 They were referred to as inhuman or something like that. 00:43:33.306 --> 00:43:35.771 Why couldn't they use the word mutant? 00:43:35.771 --> 00:43:38.677 They don't ever really say what they are. 00:43:38.677 --> 00:43:44.653 You know, they're just like they're enhanced individuals. 00:43:44.653 --> 00:43:46.918 Yeah, because I know Fox coined the phrase. 00:43:46.918 --> 00:43:49.449 I know what was it? 00:43:49.449 --> 00:43:52.673 Flash, which was DC, had the metahumans. 00:43:52.673 --> 00:43:56.746 Yeah, I don't know if they had anything specific they were calling them. 00:43:56.746 --> 00:44:06.458 Now, the Inhumans were a different thing and, I'll be honest, it was a weird twist on a TV show where one of your main characters never says a goddamn word. 00:44:06.458 --> 00:44:10.896 But the Inhumans TV show wasn't half bad. 00:44:12.447 --> 00:44:13.190 I like the comic books. 00:44:13.210 --> 00:44:13.733 It was solid. 00:44:15.449 --> 00:44:17.554 And that's one thing that irks me about it. 00:44:17.554 --> 00:44:25.925 You have the three factions, you have the mutants, the Inhumans, and then you have the Brick Inhumans or the Enhanced Inhumans or whatever you know. 00:44:25.925 --> 00:44:28.014 You go and look at the characters. 00:44:28.014 --> 00:44:31.255 You look at the characters again at Marvel no, x-men. 00:44:31.255 --> 00:44:35.032 So you don't get like the awesome, like you know the awesome characters over there. 00:44:35.072 --> 00:44:46.164 So you're stuck with the Avengers and who else and then this bothers me also because you think about it and from your X-Men you get to see T'Challa. 00:44:46.164 --> 00:44:47.027 You know what I'm saying? 00:44:47.027 --> 00:44:48.313 God rest Choway Bozeman. 00:44:48.313 --> 00:44:48.793 Oh my gosh. 00:44:50.108 --> 00:44:50.610 Rest in peace. 00:44:50.610 --> 00:44:51.132 To a legend. 00:44:52.487 --> 00:45:00.317 But the thing is, I wanted to see the comic book where Storm becomes T'Challa's wife and they become a power couple and start wrecking shit. 00:45:00.317 --> 00:45:02.532 We are missing pivotal moments here. 00:45:02.532 --> 00:45:07.416 And I'm like, but you know, it's literally like you've been edged. 00:45:07.416 --> 00:45:10.411 It's like, hey, you might get it. 00:45:10.411 --> 00:45:12.492 No, no, we still own this word. 00:45:12.492 --> 00:45:13.766 You can't have those two. 00:45:14.329 --> 00:45:22.451 I would kill, I would so kill, to have a Deadpool-Spider-Man buddy cop movie. 00:45:22.451 --> 00:45:23.574 Oh God, yes. 00:45:24.726 --> 00:45:27.373 That would be the best Tom Holland and Ryan Reynolds. 00:45:28.235 --> 00:45:47.836 Oh, perfect, him being so tied to the X-Men and like, because in the comics Spider-Man is also like, not like super, tapped in primarily because they thought he was a mutant and he was like yeah, no, definitely. 00:45:47.896 --> 00:46:02.692 I got bit by a bug yep, like you sit there, like if you go back, if we go to the marvel animation but the spider-man show, you know when, when deadpool popped up, but the Spider-Man show, you know, when Deadpool popped up on the Spider-Man show, he's all like, yeah, I can't say kill, so I'm going to say that I'm alive with him. 00:46:03.675 --> 00:46:05.878 Oh yeah, when did you get these jets? 00:46:05.878 --> 00:46:07.126 I borrowed them. 00:46:07.126 --> 00:46:10.914 I owe you two jets Stole them from Tony. 00:46:11.054 --> 00:46:19.554 Tony's looking like what the I got another bone to pick because the funny thing is Spider-Man. 00:46:19.554 --> 00:46:21.753 He was a part of the Fantastic Four at one point. 00:46:21.753 --> 00:46:24.112 We're not even going to get to that because we can't have a Fantastic Four. 00:46:24.132 --> 00:46:28.085 That doesn't suck well, supposedly we got one coming. 00:46:29.309 --> 00:46:30.288 We do, I didn't know. 00:46:30.307 --> 00:46:33.070 Spider-Man was part of the Fantastic Four at one point. 00:46:33.110 --> 00:46:38.349 Yes, wouldn't that make them five okay, pause, so

what it was. 00:46:39.626 --> 00:46:40.851 It was when Johnny was gone, wasn't it? 00:46:43.047 --> 00:46:43.731 I wasn't even trying. 00:46:43.731 --> 00:46:45.070 I think what it was was Wait hold on. 00:46:45.070 --> 00:47:06.733 Spider-man somehow lost his costume, so they gave him a spare Fantastic Four costume and a paper bag and he swung around with a paper bag on his head wearing a Fantastic 4 costume and they used that as an excuse to team him up with the Fantastic 4 and stuff. 00:47:09.831 --> 00:47:27.237 I think that ruins the whole Marvel side of their shows and stuff, because all their characters are always interconnected with each other, especially with mutants, but when you go watch their shows they're so isolated on an island that they're supposed to interact with just their core people. 00:47:27.927 --> 00:47:28.891 It's much like you said. 00:47:28.891 --> 00:47:34.074 It feels like a lot of their shows are waiting for that moment of like. 00:47:34.074 --> 00:47:36.898 Okay, sony's contract's expired. 00:47:37.425 --> 00:47:46.494 No more mutants we're sitting here like drip-dropping, like okay, so what are you gonna do after? 00:47:46.494 --> 00:47:48.507 What's that? 00:47:48.507 --> 00:47:48.829 What's that? 00:47:48.829 --> 00:47:51.675 What's the big one, doomsday, like? 00:47:51.675 --> 00:47:52.077 What are you gonna? 00:47:52.077 --> 00:47:55.619 Do like are you actually gonna mosh everybody together? 00:47:55.619 --> 00:47:59.266 So now when I watch the next, you know agent and she'llIELD, they bring it back. 00:47:59.266 --> 00:48:02.452 Let's say, they bring Agent of SHIELD back, we have them. 00:48:02.452 --> 00:48:04.492 Or She-Hulk, we get Spider-Woman in there too. 00:48:04.492 --> 00:48:07.913 Like what are we going to do? 00:48:09.811 --> 00:48:10.485 I mean technically. 00:48:11.427 --> 00:48:13.695 Big Hero 6 is in the same universe. 00:48:16.030 --> 00:48:16.411 I like. 00:48:16.632 --> 00:48:17.855 She-Hulk, you bullshit. 00:48:17.855 --> 00:48:18.577 Wait, big Hero 6. 00:48:18.684 --> 00:48:28.090 She-Hulk was not good, I'm looking at the She-Hulk was plagued with bad writing based on Marvel comic publications and Big Hero 6 is on it. 00:48:29.139 --> 00:48:29.463 I like She-Hulk. 00:48:29.463 --> 00:48:37.047 She-hulk had a lot of tongue in cheek and, as she is in her comic book, she was actually really fun. 00:48:37.047 --> 00:48:39.389 I just feel like they just did a lot of things. 00:48:39.389 --> 00:48:40.715 That was like kind of cringy. 00:48:40.715 --> 00:48:53.793 That wasn't like ultimately her character that's my problem, was all the cringe because she and she always was doing fourth wall breaks before deadpool the bad guy was internet trolls of that show. 00:48:54.315 --> 00:49:03.052 Yes, but as I said as I said before, when we had, when you had this argument the other day, who was the bad guy in the first season of daredevil? 00:49:04.896 --> 00:49:12.757 I said wilson fisk and you're like no it was the justice system the justice system is always the bad guy. 00:49:12.757 --> 00:49:18.916 Let's just get that out there because it doesn't matter who the big bad is the justice system, is the bigger bad? 00:49:18.976 --> 00:49:35.856 okay, perfect example Arkham Asylum they have not rehabilitated a single that's not entirely true who comes back better from Harley. 00:49:35.856 --> 00:49:37.146 Quinn is making progress, as she is no longer fucking. 00:49:37.146 --> 00:49:37.284 A joker, entirely true. 00:49:37.284 --> 00:49:37.536 Who comes back better from Harley? 00:49:37.536 --> 00:49:39.972 Harley Quinn is making progress, as she is no longer fucking a Joker. 00:49:40.105 --> 00:49:41.670 She worked there first. 00:49:41.670 --> 00:49:47.755 I was just about to say that she made a lot of loss of progress. 00:49:48.626 --> 00:49:50.452 She's making progress back. 00:49:51.893 --> 00:50:00.414 She literally turned into a villain, a super hot villain, while working in the justice system. 00:50:02.525 --> 00:50:05.248 In Arkham's defense. 00:50:05.248 --> 00:50:17.050 If they haven't broke out, they do get released and they get back into the streets of Gotham where, as we can see, there's not a lot of great opportunity to be on the straight and narrow. 00:50:17.050 --> 00:50:17.724 And if you do go on the straight and narrow, you know there's not a lot of great opportunity to be on the straight and narrow. 00:50:17.724 --> 00:50:24.429 And if you do go on the straight and narrow, you're getting screwed over by either your boss or you're not making enough money Cause you got to live, you got to take care of your family. 00:50:24.429 --> 00:50:28.590 So sometimes you just gotta you know you gotta go grab yourself a gun. 00:50:28.590 --> 00:50:31.552 You know you gotta tell people to get down or lay down. 00:50:41.427 --> 00:50:42.608 I'm going to argue, and I'm going to argue. 00:50:42.608 --> 00:50:42.809 Who has? 00:50:42.829 --> 00:50:45.934 Arkham rehabilitated Zero, absolutely zero fucking people. 00:50:45.954 --> 00:50:46.353 Jack Napier. 00:50:46.394 --> 00:50:50.139 Jack Napier From Batman White Knight Did he? 00:50:54.501 --> 00:50:54.764 They did. 00:50:57.476 --> 00:51:02.527 The Babel In Batman White Knight. 00:51:02.527 --> 00:51:05.114 He is a functioning member of society. 00:51:05.114 --> 00:51:06.438 Batman hates it, but he is a functioning member of society. 00:51:06.458 --> 00:51:06.920 Again, that was like. 00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:10.996 I just really want to punch him like, I just want to punch him in a stupid face. 00:51:11.257 --> 00:51:22.717 He's like waiting, if your success percentage is less than like I don't know 0.2, then you, I don't call it success rate hey, but that's a win, like if you're ever gonna have a win. 00:51:23.038 --> 00:51:28.829 That's the lowercase w right there it's a win. 00:51:29.471 --> 00:51:32.476 If you're gonna have a win, it should like it. 00:51:32.476 --> 00:51:33.396 Better be the

joker. 00:51:33.396 --> 00:51:37.853 You better fix that dude of all the people who've been in your system. 00:51:37.853 --> 00:51:39.297 Yeah, you're not going to fix it. 00:51:39.297 --> 00:51:40.811 No, that one you can't. 00:51:41.144 --> 00:51:43.297 Harley Quinn used to work at Arkham bro. 00:51:43.297 --> 00:51:44.625 That's what I'm saying. 00:51:44.625 --> 00:51:47.815 She was a functioning human being, that was normal and sweet. 00:51:48.166 --> 00:51:49.992 Then she went to work at Arguable. 00:51:50.072 --> 00:51:53.572 And got turned up Arguable if I'm not mistaken. 00:51:58.824 --> 00:52:06.755 She's from Gotham, and nobody from Gotham is a normal, rational human being because they keep boiling the water supply are you kidding me? 00:52:06.755 --> 00:52:17.833 That and like if you live in Gotham, let's be honest, if you live in Gotham, Gordon normal person, normal functioning contributor to society. 00:52:18.846 --> 00:52:20.753 Gordon's also a thug that beats people's ass all day. 00:52:20.753 --> 00:52:21.414 I don't know. 00:52:25.215 --> 00:52:25.577 He doesn't. 00:52:25.577 --> 00:52:29.409 He doesn't so does. 00:52:29.429 --> 00:52:29.851 Batman. 00:52:34.751 --> 00:52:35.293 I don't kill. 00:52:35.293 --> 00:52:36.476 Give me a rib cage. 00:52:36.476 --> 00:52:36.958 Wait what? 00:52:40.945 --> 00:52:43.929 I mean, batman may not kill motherfuckers, but he sure do be crippling hoes let me tell you. 00:52:46.653 --> 00:52:52.295 Bovla Hill and Bruce Wayne Wayne Enterprise will take care of your medical bills you know? 00:52:53.898 --> 00:53:12.777 yeah, it's weird Batman blew up all my shit and then Bruce Wayne showed up with a check for three hundred thousand dollars I will say I don't know why that was probably one of my favorite scenes in in the uh the dark knight series was 00:53:12.817 --> 00:53:29.092 when home dude comes up to, uh, lucius fox talking about I know bruce wayne's batman, and he's like okay, he's like well, I'm gonna expose him, unless was when Home Dude comes up to Lucius Fox talking about I know Bruce Wayne's Batman, and he's like okay, he's like well, I'm going to expose him unless I get money, blah, blah, blah, and he goes. 00:53:29.092 --> 00:53:33.483 You really think you're going to blackmail a guy who dresses up and goes out at night and beats the shit out of people all night? 00:53:34.327 --> 00:53:35.371 I'll patch off my own purse. 00:53:35.925 --> 00:53:37.190 Basically, that's what happened. 00:53:38.965 --> 00:53:42.371 He's like well, well, I'm gonna go back to work now all right. 00:53:42.391 --> 00:53:42.592 All right. 00:53:42.592 --> 00:54:03.496 It's like the two people you don't want to confront about their secret identity batman, spider-man oh spider-man, oh my gosh, just what he did to freaking like old buddy in prison oh, when he took kingpin yeah, I'm talking freaking old buddy in prison oh, when he took Kingpin yeah, yes, I'm talking about old buddy when they showed up to his house

and he kept telling them to not show up. 00:54:03.496 --> 00:54:12.235 And they showed up at his door and he beat the ever-living shit out of them and said not at my house. 00:54:12.295 --> 00:54:13.244 That's right. 00:54:14.688 --> 00:54:17.744 Forgot about that that was during the Civil War, wasn't? 00:54:17.764 --> 00:54:17.804 it. 00:54:17.885 --> 00:54:25.713 I feel like the majority of the villains in Gotham know Bruce Wayne as Batman, but they're too scared to actually say anything to him. 00:54:25.713 --> 00:54:36.211 Like someone comes up, like some you know villain's, like I know, I figured it out, I figured it out Bruce Wayne's Batman and all the other villains are like yeah, we fucking know, dude, just don't fucking say anything. 00:54:39.045 --> 00:54:40.443 Who can afford this much ways to whip somebody's ass? 00:54:40.443 --> 00:54:41.891 I don't know. 00:54:44.009 --> 00:54:47.815 Actually it looks like it's Marvel Adventures Spider-Man, issue 59. 00:54:49.007 --> 00:54:51.335 So let's switch over to the animated series. 00:54:51.335 --> 00:54:54.585 We all know DC it's. 00:54:54.646 --> 00:54:55.650 DC all day. 00:54:56.405 --> 00:55:00.570 I love Marvel to death, but DC just fucking kills it in their anime. 00:55:00.672 --> 00:55:01.273 Every time. 00:55:02.846 --> 00:55:09.989 Ruby x Justice League Fucking gold I'm going to argue from the jump. 00:55:10.311 --> 00:55:12.099 it's been just superb. 00:55:12.099 --> 00:55:26.231 They started out initially with Justice League, Flashpoint Paradox, which is a perfect starting point for a universe, because A it shows you time is fluid. 00:55:26.231 --> 00:55:30.849 It shows you there's other universes we can tap into. 00:55:30.849 --> 00:55:31.110 That. 00:55:31.856 --> 00:55:38.646 And it also shows you how exactly OP Barry Allen is, which, by the way, Flash is my favorite character from DC. 00:55:39.449 --> 00:55:46.550 He's also Batman's favorite character from DC, but at the same time, Batman says I will take him apart. 00:55:46.570 --> 00:55:49.650 It's also the only reason that we don't have the Justice. 00:55:49.731 --> 00:55:51.730 Lords 100% has. 00:55:51.730 --> 00:56:03.579 If you watch or read Batman, dark Knight or not, dark it's, was it Darkest Night or something, I forget what it's called. 00:56:03.579 --> 00:56:05.889 Dark Knights of Evil. 00:56:07.409 --> 00:56:09.376 You're talking about the metal one. 00:56:11.264 --> 00:56:11.869 Bad Metal. 00:56:11.869 --> 00:56:12.653 That's what it was. 00:56:12.835 --> 00:56:14.123 You're talking about that series? 00:56:14.204 --> 00:56:36.632 Yeah, where he one universe's Batmanman beats the shit out of uh, barry allen straps him to the hood of the batmobile and drives him to the end of the universe and acquires his power to become red death bro oh my god, I want to watch that, I want to read that if they made a series of if they made a series off of that I would to watch that. 00:56:36.652 --> 00:56:37.032 I want to read that. 00:56:37.032 --> 00:56:39.842 If they made a series off of that, I would so watch that. 00:56:40.204 --> 00:56:49.195 Bro, that would be so savage I will throw out and this is just a shout out to one of my favorite YouTube channels Comicstorian. 00:56:49.195 --> 00:56:51.280 Yes, yes, Love the guy. 00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:56.739 He's got a whole series on that, oh yeah, it's so good series on that. 00:56:56.818 --> 00:57:01.146 It's so good when I'm working on something and I need some background noise. 00:57:01.146 --> 00:57:03.634 Throw in some comic story and what's the other channel? 00:57:03.653 --> 00:57:04.577 Rest in Peace, benny. 00:57:05.365 --> 00:57:07.172 The comic story and the other guy. 00:57:07.172 --> 00:57:13.456 Comics Explained Comics Explained what's the most? 00:57:13.496 --> 00:57:16.947 recent Batman series where Batman's just fucking straight yoked. 00:57:16.947 --> 00:57:20.032 Oh poor Batman, he's got a battle axe on his chest what's? 00:57:20.072 --> 00:57:20.492 the most recent. 00:57:20.512 --> 00:57:22.235 Batman series, where Batman's just fucking straight yoked. 00:57:22.255 --> 00:57:26.039 Oh poor Batman, he's got a battle axe on his chest, oh my God, and it's got one of the greatest stories. 00:57:30.047 --> 00:57:30.889 It's essentially what if? 00:57:30.889 --> 00:57:33.195 Batman was poor, absolute Batman. 00:57:33.195 --> 00:57:33.777 That's what it is. 00:57:34.824 --> 00:57:35.824 It's absolute Batman I was watching. 00:57:36.025 --> 00:57:37.135 I was on TikTok the other day and someone did an animated deal about absolute Batman. 00:57:37.135 --> 00:57:37.297 That's what it is. 00:57:37.297 --> 00:57:37.581 It's Absolute Batman. 00:57:37.581 --> 00:57:37.702 I was watching. 00:57:37.702 --> 00:57:42.327 I was on TikTok the other day and someone did like an animated deal about Absolute Batman and it's like he shows up and jokes. 00:57:42.327 --> 00:57:44.809 There you go, he turns around and he's like yo, what the fuck? 00:57:44.809 --> 00:57:46.027 You look like Batman. 00:57:46.027 --> 00:57:47.032 Ate Batman. 00:57:47.032 --> 00:57:50.755 Like one of your legs is the size of my fucking torso. 00:57:52.528 --> 00:58:04.275 Well, it literally is the story of if Batman, his, his dad was a doctor, but he was a failing doctor, and things like that, and he grows up to just become a mechanic. 00:58:04.275 --> 00:58:09.076 But he works out all the fucking time. 00:58:11.346 --> 00:58:13.655 I feel like that Batman only works out. 00:58:13.655 --> 00:58:18.737 He works on cars for maybe two to three hours a day and then just goes straight back to the gym. 00:58:19.545 --> 00:58:21.713 He's got to make his own tools because keep breaking them. 00:58:22.375 --> 00:58:28.414 I would say, and that's why he's got such like brutal tools, he's his bat symbol is really the head of an ax. 00:58:28.414 --> 00:58:35.452 Yeah, so he pulls out like a handle and like, rips the thing off his chest and shoves it on his.

00:58:35.452 --> 00:58:40.213 His little bat horns are essentially knives that he pulls out. 00:58:41.974 --> 00:58:43.971 That Batman is on steroids. 00:58:43.971 --> 00:58:46.614 You cannot tell me any differently. 00:58:47.775 --> 00:58:49.369 He's fighting Bane, wouldn't you? 00:58:49.905 --> 00:58:51.753 That man is straight running cycles. 00:58:51.753 --> 00:58:55.349 It's only one cycle, but it's forever. 00:58:58.416 --> 00:58:59.282 I want to point out something. 00:58:59.282 --> 00:59:00.913 Everybody like this whole conversation. 00:59:00.913 --> 00:59:09.077 We're supposed to be talking about marvel and dc, and the whole time we've been talking about dc, just dc, just that much that much better yes until you get to their movies 00:59:10.606 --> 00:59:35.181 now see, and the thing is I and I wish that dc's movies would take the same route that that marvel's movies have, with the kevin feige approach of, like he has, we have one guy who's in control they just did that'd be nice and honestly, like, for example, the first bit of the animated films, the. 00:59:35.282 --> 01:00:00.947 There was one producer who was in charge of everything, james Tucker, and he put together the Flashpoint Paradox, justice League, war, son of Batman, throne of Atlantis, batman vs Robin, batman, bad Blood, justice League vs the Teen Titans, justice League, dark Teen Titans, the Judas Contract and then Suicide Squad Hell to Pay, which was also co-produced by Sam Liu. 01:00:00.947 --> 01:00:13.608 But like there was this one guy involved with this main story through the animated series Yep, or the animated films, Yep, and that's because Warner Brothers couldn't. 01:00:13.628 --> 01:00:14.231 I'm not gonna lie. 01:00:14.385 --> 01:00:19.992 I came into this totally ready to defend Marvel and everything, but we have been glazing the shit out of DC. 01:00:20.684 --> 01:00:25.411 Because Marvel outside of your core, of the Avengers. 01:00:25.411 --> 01:00:26.766 What else do you? 01:00:26.827 --> 01:00:28.012 have their roster's. 01:00:28.012 --> 01:00:31.028 Not that great if we're being 100% honest. 01:00:31.028 --> 01:00:31.811 If you cut out the. 01:00:31.992 --> 01:00:33.811 X-Men and you cut out all mutants. 01:00:33.811 --> 01:00:34.574 You cut out mutants. 01:00:37.331 --> 01:00:42.152 I mean we do have Deadpool, which does include Wolverine. 01:00:42.474 --> 01:00:45.853 Yep, I mean, think about it. 01:00:45.853 --> 01:00:54.230 You've got Iron man Thor, the entire Avengers lineup can all do their own standalone shit. 01:00:54.972 --> 01:01:01.228 Yes, and they've all been good We've reached a point, though, where we can include mutants. 01:01:01.228 --> 01:01:04.271 It's just they haven't had a chance to do it yet. 01:01:04.791 --> 01:01:13.521 Yeah until Sony either hands it over or no, fox had mutants Fox had the time. 01:01:13.541 --> 01:01:13.945 Mutants oh Fox. 01:01:14.146 --> 01:01:16.034 Sorry, I'm thinking Spider-Man, for some reason. 01:01:16.927 --> 01:01:18.813 But yeah, Fox is just fucking let go. 01:01:18.813 --> 01:01:22.496 But Fox has got rid of their entertainment division. 01:01:22.496 --> 01:01:26.652 And Mouse bought it Mouse got the mutants. 01:01:27.666 --> 01:01:28.369 Mouse has mutants. 01:01:28.369 --> 01:01:35.235 They just haven't had a chance to do anything with it yet why the Mouse has an unlimited budget. 01:01:35.235 --> 01:01:45.833 They got a hold of it and they went cool, deadpool, wolverine that'll be how we introduce mutants and we'll somehow incorporate it further down the line. 01:01:46.193 --> 01:01:54.751 Right, yeah, but they should be able to do it a lot sooner when your budget is yes you can do that. 01:01:54.751 --> 01:02:05.856 They've had so many wasted opportunities where they could have had such great Don't worry, we'll sell six more bottled waters at the theme park and it'll pay for the next movie, right? 01:02:07.097 --> 01:02:09.570 Exactly so. 01:02:09.630 --> 01:02:26.858 Like the Marvel side is like kind of thin, like your characters are thin characters are thin, like I well, especially if you go to and this is what initially spawned mine and uh, jay's conversation was the animated series of marvel vs dc. 01:02:26.858 --> 01:02:34.552 Marvel's animated series, like the, the cartoons and stuff as kids were great. 01:02:34.552 --> 01:02:36.637 We all all remember the original X-Men. 01:02:36.637 --> 01:02:37.737 We all remember the. 01:02:37.778 --> 01:02:38.079 Spider-Men. 01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:52.110 But when they started trying to make movies, they started trying to do these animated movies in 3D, rendering anime style. 01:02:52.110 --> 01:03:05.289 Everything was a different person producing it, directing it, storyboarding it like it was just like Kevin Feige, do it right like. 01:03:05.289 --> 01:03:08.170 The worst one I remember was I tried watching. 01:03:08.170 --> 01:03:15.815 There was one with the Punisher and Black Widow and it it hurt my eyes to watch. 01:03:15.815 --> 01:03:18.273 That's how bad it was. 01:03:19.346 --> 01:03:35.918 But the reason why they do that is they keep both of those stories separate, Like you keep your animated world separate from your movie world, and that's the problem with DC is your animation world, you know everything happens. 01:03:35.965 --> 01:03:41.271 I think it's just so dominant that it can't help but bleed into the live action to the movies. 01:03:42.146 --> 01:03:49.547 Well, you can tell whatever story you want in the animation, like you've got more freedom to tell a comic book style story or whatever, but when it comes to, why can't? 01:03:49.547 --> 01:03:54.652 You do that in live action Because you don't have all the characters you can use in a live action. 01:03:54.652 --> 01:03:57.764 You know what I mean. 01:03:57.764 --> 01:04:03.804 Like you, sit there, you run your Avengers, you know Wolverine, you know, pops up as an Avenger every once in a while. 01:04:03.804 -->

01:04:06.052 You got Spider-Man. 01:04:06.052 --> 01:04:09.347 Pops up as an Avenger every once in a while, shoot even. 01:04:09.407 --> 01:04:10.068 Luke Cage is an. 01:04:10.068 --> 01:04:14.570 Avenger but you know, I mean to be fair, like everyone, and their mama is an Avenger. 01:04:14.791 --> 01:04:17.496 Don't just let anyone into the damn Avengers. 01:04:21.130 --> 01:04:21.530 Except Deadpool. 01:04:21.550 --> 01:04:23.054 Oh Punisher they won't let Punisher be an Avenger. 01:04:26.184 --> 01:04:30.333 To be fair, they tried to get Punisher as an Avenger and he shot a guy in the face to say no. 01:04:31.324 --> 01:04:33.072 Cap was like nah, great answer. 01:04:33.072 --> 01:04:35.958 They were like we need Punisher. 01:04:36.025 --> 01:04:39.735 He was like you won't let me play by the rules I want to play by. 01:04:39.735 --> 01:04:41.090 And what rules are that? 01:04:41.090 --> 01:04:42.351 He just shoots a guy? 01:04:43.126 --> 01:04:46.735 Cap looked at this dude like yeah, no, no, I'm against it. 01:04:47.545 --> 01:04:47.927 Cap was like. 01:04:48.009 --> 01:04:50.947 I don't want him Although. 01:04:51.909 --> 01:04:55.577 I'm really sad that Chris Evans has stepped down from Captain America. 01:04:55.577 --> 01:04:59.193 Like I get it, you know, oh shit, I almost dropped my whole fucking mic. 01:05:01.032 --> 01:05:03.791 I liked him reprising his role as the Human Torch. 01:05:04.726 --> 01:05:18.987 Yes, that was fantastic, but I'd really like to see a fucking, because you know, captain America and Cyclops have gone toe-to-toe, yep, and Cyclops fucking ran that shit. 01:05:19.429 --> 01:05:25.014 Yep, of course, and I really want to see that live action Put some respect on Mr Summer's name. 01:05:26.927 --> 01:05:35.027 There's a lot of things I want to see from the X-Men universe and I would love if they, even if they start with a TV show, give me something. 01:05:35.027 --> 01:05:40.440 I need to see Jean Grey, I need to see gene gray, I need to see storm. 01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:45.351 I need to see we cyclops hell let me, get havoc but like. 01:05:45.371 --> 01:05:47.836 So what happened for what you're saying? 01:05:47.836 --> 01:05:52.672 Like they had this whole thing with the marvel was having trouble I'm joking on beach. 01:05:54.175 --> 01:05:54.677 So they had. 01:05:54.677 --> 01:06:09.690 They had this one thing this uh, series of comics that came out when marvel was having trouble, called marvel knights, I believe, and marvel knights had like these great retelling of a lot of these stories and like, give a good origin point to whatnot, and that's where I saw like a lot of the um, the rebirth of certain stories. 01:06:09.690 --> 01:06:11.795 Perfect example wolverine versus freaking hulk. 01:06:11.795 --> 01:06:17.394 That, oh my gosh, great stories, outstanding story brilliant. 01:06:17.474 --> 01:06:21.211 I did like the nod to it in Deadpool vs Wolverine. 01:06:22.266 --> 01:06:41.518 Well, I will say, because

there are some animated Marvel movies that have slapped, and there is one, I believe, specifically with it's like Marvel, or it's Deadpool vs Hulk, vs Wolverine, and then I think, deadpool versus somebody else, versus Venom. 01:06:44.746 --> 01:07:06.199 They're like two 20-30 minute episode movie things like you know that fight between, like hulk and, uh, wolverine and deadpool just kind of showing up in the middle of it, like I'm sitting here looking at the enemy. 01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:07.445 I'm looking at the animation series. 01:07:07.445 --> 01:07:14.353 I'm like like the egg the only bad, the only awesome one was the freaking x-men series. 01:07:14.353 --> 01:07:21.867 So the x-men evolution, x-men animated series and x-men 97 and then wolverine. 01:07:22.047 --> 01:07:30.949 I haven't finished x-men 97 yet, but I've been enjoying it whoa, that's, that's what I see and that's why. 01:07:31.030 --> 01:07:46.351 That's why I feel bad for marvel, because your x-men, like your x-men stories are better than everything else like yeah they are serious, but if they embrace them they'll do better we can be camped at this point. 01:07:46.371 --> 01:07:50.534 They should be able to, because the word mutant was holding back, right? 01:07:50.594 --> 01:07:51.559 yeah, it's just as a. 01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:54.206 It's just a matter of they haven't had a chance to do anything. 01:07:54.206 --> 01:08:01.811 The the most they've done so far is Deadpool, wolverine, past, that they haven't had a chance to truly bring. 01:08:01.972 --> 01:08:07.112 Oh, the Captain Marvel, the Ms Marvel series. 01:08:08.985 --> 01:08:10.291 Oh, technically she is a mutant. 01:08:10.291 --> 01:08:11.295 No, she's an inhuman. 01:08:12.487 --> 01:08:12.969 At the end. 01:08:12.969 --> 01:08:15.438 Was it the Captain Marvel 2? 01:08:15.438 --> 01:08:17.252 The Captain Marvel 2 movie, wasn't it? 01:08:19.244 --> 01:08:20.328 Yeah, I don't know it's kind of forgettable at the end. 01:08:20.328 --> 01:08:20.970 Uh was it, uh was it a captain. 01:08:20.989 --> 01:08:22.073 Marvel 2 the captain marvel 2 movie, wasn't it? 01:08:22.073 --> 01:08:24.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because the um, I believe the miss marvel series moved. 01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:28.007 It moved into the captain marvel movie. 01:08:28.007 --> 01:08:45.371 And if you remember, at the end of uh, the captain marvel two, when uh, uh, jean 2, when Jean was like Remy or something, first off, remy Lebeau is Gambit. 01:08:46.368 --> 01:08:47.934 I'm trying to remember what her name is. 01:08:47.934 --> 01:08:51.434 Well, she ends up getting tossed into space. 01:08:52.287 --> 01:09:06.029 She ends up getting tossed into space and then she ends up going to one of the little warpholes where she's captured and she's in the mutant universe because she's there with Beast and her mom and she comes to find out that her mom's a mutant. 01:09:06.029 --> 01:09:11.751 So, they had that little tidbit of hey, there's mutants coming. 01:09:12.685 --> 01:09:13.871 A little sidebar. 01:09:13.871 --> 01:09:18.070 I kind of really really want a Channing Tatum Gambit movie. 01:09:18.112 --> 01:09:20.037 Oh, we're going to get one, oh trust me. 01:09:21.951 --> 01:09:26.465 Channing Tatum also really, really, really wants a Channing Tatum Gambit movie. 01:09:27.247 --> 01:09:28.283 I mean yeah that's true. 01:09:29.127 --> 01:09:33.216 That man has been campaigning for that movie to happen for so long. 01:09:33.925 --> 01:09:41.087 And he finally got to play Gambit and he fucking killed it, and you can tell he loved being a part of it. 01:09:41.148 --> 01:09:44.833 Like that's what I like to see when I see an actor in something um. 01:09:47.117 --> 01:09:48.061 Wesley Snipes'. 01:09:48.162 --> 01:09:48.463 Blade. 01:09:48.463 --> 01:09:51.404 Oh oh, my gosh brilliant. 01:09:51.404 --> 01:09:58.212 I gotta say this because there's four guys talking about a bunch of stuff and I want to make this very clear to all those who are listening. 01:09:58.212 --> 01:10:01.770 Understand that we may have valuable opinions and we have opinions that you may not agree with. 01:10:01.770 --> 01:10:05.618 But understand we're not against women characters because I feel like we've been shitting on some women characters. 01:10:05.618 --> 01:10:06.359 I want to make this very clear. 01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:11.136 If a woman character is written correctly and is brilliant, I love it A hundred percent. 01:10:11.466 --> 01:10:19.585 It just seems like some of the ones that just some of my favorite characters are women ones. 01:10:19.604 --> 01:10:26.578 They just some of my favorite characters are women like, like, like I'll be honest, like raven as a character, as a character, absolutely like a lot of them have amazing order stories. 01:10:26.578 --> 01:10:35.069 Dc writes women characters brilliantly in my very well, I feel like marvel sometimes lacks, to kind of let them like oh, I need a big, strong man to help me. 01:10:35.069 --> 01:10:36.751 You're super girl, what are you doing? 01:10:37.192 --> 01:10:42.840 it's like if you don't throw them hands, it's not granted in dc of what's it? 01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:43.706 A bat girl? 01:10:43.706 --> 01:10:46.292 Oh my gosh, even if I can't go out there and fight, guess what? 01:10:46.292 --> 01:10:47.235 I'm gonna become oracle. 01:10:47.235 --> 01:10:49.978 That'd be the meanest fucking hacking thing you ever seen in your fucking life. 01:10:49.978 --> 01:10:54.930 Like like brilliantly devoted characters, let's shoot cat woman. 01:10:54.930 --> 01:10:56.271 He Catwoman. 01:10:56.271 --> 01:11:00.097 Batman is the best detective in the world, but he can't run from that kitty Right. 01:11:02.786 --> 01:11:04.212 At the end of the day, he's not like hey. 01:11:04.925 --> 01:11:09.587 Metaphorically and physically, he's trying to tell her hey, baby, I need you to go straight. 01:11:09.608 --> 01:11:11.868 I need you to go legit, I need you.

01:11:11.930 --> 01:11:14.452 I mean you say that, but who did he have a kid with, huh? 01:11:18.024 --> 01:11:19.899 Well, at the same time he was kind of, you know, Well, it was taken by Raejean Gould's daughter. 01:11:19.899 --> 01:11:20.470 She kind of took them juices. 01:11:20.470 --> 01:11:21.820 Talia O'Gould. 01:11:21.841 --> 01:11:23.456 Put some respect on Talia's name. 01:11:23.698 --> 01:11:24.911 Hey, Talia took them juices. 01:11:25.677 --> 01:11:28.587 Talia said I want you and I like you, hey to be fair. 01:11:28.587 --> 01:11:29.712 She took them twice. 01:11:30.606 --> 01:11:31.451 The choice is yours. 01:11:37.465 --> 01:11:38.010 I don't forget it is. 01:11:38.010 --> 01:11:42.234 You also gotta remember when he did get the opportunity, bruce had a chance to say no. 01:11:42.234 --> 01:11:42.787 He was like. 01:11:42.787 --> 01:11:47.413 You know what I'm here I will not let it down again. 01:11:48.528 --> 01:11:53.364 Batman at the end of the day, is still a man which I'm gonna throw something out. 01:11:53.364 --> 01:11:55.171 This is a personal opinion. 01:11:55.171 --> 01:11:55.528 It was really. 01:11:55.528 --> 01:11:56.253 We're talking about the animated DC. 01:11:56.253 --> 01:11:57.081 I'm going to throw something out. 01:11:57.081 --> 01:11:57.625 This is a personal opinion. 01:11:57.625 --> 01:11:58.725 It was really. 01:11:58.725 --> 01:12:00.192 We're talking about the animated DC. 01:12:00.192 --> 01:12:10.554 It was real aggressive in the Harley Quinn show when she straight up assaults Dick Grayson when he's strapped to a bed and not able to say. 01:12:10.865 --> 01:12:11.890 He's saying no. 01:12:13.386 --> 01:12:14.189 That was assault. 01:12:14.369 --> 01:12:14.752 That was. 01:12:15.766 --> 01:12:22.569 You're not saying no, but your eyes are saying yes, no, no, don't take off that beautifully tight, hold on. 01:12:22.569 --> 01:12:23.573 No, don't do this to me. 01:12:23.573 --> 01:12:24.729 Bat daddy help me. 01:12:24.729 --> 01:12:27.673 He was like oh no. 01:12:28.948 --> 01:12:32.470 Batman came in that room, looked at both of them like really, what are you doing? 01:12:33.914 --> 01:12:36.515 and dad don't get mad at me, batman, I've seen your roster. 01:12:36.515 --> 01:12:37.685 All of them are evil. 01:12:37.685 --> 01:12:46.652 All of them are literally evil that's not entirely true what is it? 01:12:47.309 --> 01:12:48.944 specifically Silver Saint Cloud. 01:12:48.944 --> 01:12:52.094 I know way too much about Batman. 01:12:52.094 --> 01:13:09.009 You guys, let's go for it that's why I brought you this is due to a tumblr post I came across years ago, silver St Cloud, which is someone who Batman had sex with and made come 11 times in one night, and that's in the comics. 01:13:09.832 --> 01:13:11.136 Why Damn Batman? 01:13:11.136 --> 01:13:14.490 I don't know why this is Bruce Wayne, Because you're going to get this justice. 01:13:18.087 --> 01:13:18.930 He's out there busting. 01:13:23.493 --> 01:13:28.122 Which also brings the point of, like I'd get it all for my city. 01:13:28.122 --> 01:13:29.569 So he was doing that all night. 01:13:29.569 --> 01:13:34.131 We can assume that was an all night job, right, right, because he doesn't, because that's what he do, he stay up all night. 01:13:34.131 --> 01:13:38.273 So crime was just happening while you busted nuts, alright. 01:13:40.122 --> 01:13:41.287 I feel bad for that person. 01:13:41.287 --> 01:13:42.202 This is the night. 01:13:42.242 --> 01:13:45.287 Two-Face got to rob the bank because you was busy fucking. 01:13:46.140 --> 01:13:46.603 Think about it. 01:13:46.603 --> 01:13:47.286 Think about it. 01:13:47.286 --> 01:13:54.287 Guy Bruce stays up all night so he was giving it to her all night, to the sun rising. 01:13:54.287 --> 01:13:56.146 She's all like please let me sleep. 01:13:56.146 --> 01:13:58.627 He's like no we still got time. 01:13:59.109 --> 01:14:08.648 You know, it's the same energy he will fight Bane You've got me I've got you for the next three hours. 01:14:08.747 --> 01:14:09.489 I have a question. 01:14:11.162 --> 01:14:12.207 You're in here with me. 01:14:12.207 --> 01:14:16.025 Superman has kids right, Correct? 01:14:16.025 --> 01:14:17.871 I have a question. 01:14:20.844 --> 01:14:22.268 Was this like a Hancock situation? 01:14:23.190 --> 01:14:24.654 Is this going to be the Mallrats question? 01:14:24.654 --> 01:14:26.841 Wait, hold on what's the Mallrats question. 01:14:26.862 --> 01:14:42.126 The mall rats question where he says like, so, like, if if superman came in lois lane, it would just blow her back out like a shotgun, right, right or lunge into the air which that was actually initially, uh, played off of. 01:14:42.126 --> 01:14:48.382 There's a scene where she gets pregnant with Superman's kid and he kicks and like rips through her stomach. 01:14:50.145 --> 01:14:50.365 Oh. 01:14:51.646 --> 01:14:52.167 Oh no. 01:14:54.011 --> 01:15:04.407 Well, I mean Superman Stunned him you won't get this justice. 01:15:05.007 --> 01:15:06.970 Hey, superman symbol stands for hope. 01:15:07.912 --> 01:15:10.256 You better hope you don't die. 01:15:20.876 --> 01:15:22.238 You better hope you don't die. 01:15:25.146 --> 01:15:26.399 You better hope they can fix your ass. 01:15:26.399 --> 01:15:28.509 You feel bad for the man because he probably knows. 01:15:28.509 --> 01:15:29.655 No, no, you gotta finish outside, damn. 01:15:31.301 --> 01:15:34.426 Now leads me to my second part of the question. 01:15:35.841 --> 01:15:40.243 When Hulk smashes, that's also brought up in Mallrats. 01:15:40.725 --> 01:15:41.347 God damn it. 01:15:41.347 --> 01:15:49.287 I've seen that movie and it's like subconsciously coming out is everything green or like? 01:15:49.908 --> 01:16:01.060 does everything grow the thing, the thing is his thing is his junk made of rock yeah, yeah, but oh, did he ever? 01:16:01.079 --> 01:16:01.862 did he ever have? 01:16:01.862 --> 01:16:02.644 No,

because he did. 01:16:02.644 --> 01:16:03.466 He got turned. 01:16:03.466 --> 01:16:05.792 Ben got turned back to human one time, didn't he? 01:16:05.792 --> 01:16:08.948 He went back to human and he was able to have a kid. 01:16:09.539 --> 01:16:14.471 Oh, you know, he was smashing for like a solid 48 hours when he turned back human Right. 01:16:16.381 --> 01:16:19.149 This is another random comic fun fact. 01:16:19.149 --> 01:16:32.085 The Thing and the Hulk meet up once a year to beat the shit out of each other because they're the only people that can hang with each other when it comes to taking damage. 01:16:32.466 --> 01:16:39.408 He said I need to fight and Nova, freaking Hulk's like to fight Supernova. 01:16:39.408 --> 01:16:40.483 Is it Supernova? 01:16:40.483 --> 01:16:41.025 Yeah, Supernova. 01:16:41.479 --> 01:16:42.945 Yeah, until Century. 01:16:42.945 --> 01:16:43.268 I'm sorry. 01:16:44.182 --> 01:16:44.645 He likes fighting. 01:16:44.664 --> 01:16:44.805 Century. 01:16:44.805 --> 01:16:48.409 Oh, I was gonna say until it was World War Hulk, and he beat the hell out of Nova. 01:16:50.832 --> 01:16:53.947 Which also is funny how Hulk's powers comes directly from hell. 01:16:53.947 --> 01:16:54.670 But we'll get on that later. 01:16:54.670 --> 01:16:59.489 I mean that's none of my business. 01:16:59.489 --> 01:17:00.765 That's none of my business at all. 01:17:02.685 --> 01:17:04.690 Funny how Constantine never brings that shit up. 01:17:04.690 --> 01:17:05.905 It ain't none of my business all. 01:17:05.926 --> 01:17:06.975 Funny how Constantine never brings that shit up. 01:17:06.975 --> 01:17:07.600 It ain't none of my business. 01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:09.287 He gonna beat my ass and beat everybody else. 01:17:10.779 --> 01:17:11.965 Constantine, you've seen some shit. 01:17:11.965 --> 01:17:12.386 He, like you know. 01:17:14.422 --> 01:17:16.467 Does that make Bruce Banner Doomguy? 01:17:16.467 --> 01:17:23.969 No, he just gets angry and just starts destroying everything, and his power comes from hell. 01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:31.327 No, because Doomguy is actually the grandson of BJ Blazkowicz from Wolfenstein. 01:17:31.327 --> 01:17:33.865 Oh, Jesus Christ. 01:17:34.863 --> 01:17:35.364 Stop it. 01:17:35.364 --> 01:17:36.484 Yes, he really is. 01:17:36.484 --> 01:17:40.426 Stop it Are you serious, that's canon. 01:17:40.447 --> 01:17:41.890 That's canon, that's canon. 01:17:45.524 --> 01:17:45.805 Hold on. 01:17:45.805 --> 01:17:53.345 Does that mean that Doom takes place in a world where the Nazis were like in charge for a long time? 01:17:54.364 --> 01:17:56.728 yeah, that would make perfect sense. 01:17:56.807 --> 01:18:06.583 Actually, that's great that changes so much of like the Doom lore you're welcome Also. 01:18:06.644 --> 01:18:07.086 Canon. 01:18:07.086 --> 01:18:11.747 Doom guy is married to Isabella from Animal Crossing. 01:18:16.220 --> 01:18:18.970 Alright, that's another episode, you're welcome. 01:18:18.970 --> 01:18:21.314 Nope, nope, we gotta do this. 01:18:21.314 --> 01:18:21.760 Another episode. 01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:22.966 Nope, you're gonna have me. 01:18:22.966 --> 01:18:23.863 You're not putting me in a tizzy. 01:18:23.863 --> 01:18:24.750 It's canon, I'm episode, you're gonna have me. 01:18:24.750 --> 01:18:25.716 You're not putting me in a tizzy, I have enough. 01:18:25.737 --> 01:18:26.220 You know how my age is. 01:18:27.440 --> 01:18:28.243 It's canon. 01:18:28.243 --> 01:18:28.703 I'm sorry. 01:18:28.725 --> 01:18:29.345 They're married. 01:18:29.345 --> 01:18:31.631 You're welcome, that'll be another episode. 01:18:33.462 --> 01:18:34.627 Let's get back to the DC. 01:18:37.823 --> 01:18:41.475 You are not gonna play me in Swiss Borrow? 01:18:41.475 --> 01:18:43.417 I mean, Batman Hush was a great one. 01:18:45.385 --> 01:18:50.202 I mean, Batman Hush was a great one, you had the death of. 01:18:50.221 --> 01:18:53.376 Superman, I love that hard steer back towards it Like it's so good. 01:18:53.859 --> 01:18:55.623 I really love how they did. 01:18:55.724 --> 01:18:58.208 Death of Superman and then the Reign of Superman. 01:18:59.893 --> 01:19:07.760 That's true, there's one thing I want to say that DC, dc has that it bothers me personally. 01:19:08.891 --> 01:19:16.479 Our strongest combatant or, I guess, our strongest hero in DC Superman you know what I'm saying. 01:19:17.462 --> 01:19:20.423 I mean arguable arguable. 01:19:20.484 --> 01:19:26.047 Of course, you got a couple of people that contend every now and again because due to like circumstances, or just they come in and out of the universe? 01:19:26.307 --> 01:19:31.347 he's not really lobo's not relatively not stronger than superman. 01:19:32.250 --> 01:19:41.528 I mean every time they fight, batman puts him in his place because he had prep time and I love that I'm just saying that. 01:19:41.528 --> 01:19:41.929 That's what. 01:19:41.929 --> 01:19:46.154 I'm going to pause you right here. 01:19:46.154 --> 01:19:55.628 I refer I get into this argument all the time I refer to one moment in the comics. 01:19:57.261 --> 01:19:57.904 I believe it is. 01:19:59.086 --> 01:20:00.060 It's a Batman comic. 01:20:00.060 --> 01:20:15.159 I believe it's part of the Batman hush series where there's a point where poison ivy has essentially like taken over superman okay okay, batman shows up with uh catwoman. 01:20:16.362 --> 01:20:19.349 Okay, they're trying to catwoman's trying to find poison ivy. 01:20:19.349 --> 01:20:22.262 Batman's trying to distract uh superman. 01:20:22.262 --> 01:20:24.957 So super batman essentially kidnaps lois lane, takes her to the top of a building, trying to distract Superman. 01:20:24.957 --> 01:20:37.972 So Batman essentially kidnaps Lois Lane, takes her to the top of a building and throws her the fuck off and it snaps Superman out of his mind. 01:20:37.972 --> 01:20:40.707 Shit from Poison Ivy to go save Lois Lane. 01:20:40.707 --> 01:20:44.524 And at the end of

the comic they ask him why did you do that? 01:20:44.524 --> 01:20:50.984 And he said deep down I know Clark is a good person and deep down I'm not. 01:20:53.350 --> 01:20:53.811 Ain't that deep. 01:20:53.811 --> 01:20:54.864 You beat everybody's ass every night. 01:20:58.148 --> 01:21:03.448 The problem comes that Batman is willing to do the things to win. 01:21:03.448 --> 01:21:04.996 Superman is the Boy Scout. 01:21:04.996 --> 01:21:05.679 He's not willing to do those things to win. 01:21:05.679 --> 01:21:08.113 Superman is the Boy Scout, he's not willing to do those things. 01:21:08.113 --> 01:21:19.032 Now you can have all these Elseworlds stories like injustice and things like that, but put regular Superman versus regular Batman. 01:21:19.032 --> 01:21:22.409 Every single time they fight, batman comes out on top. 01:21:22.699 --> 01:21:27.246 Because Superman won't use his full power to because superman won't do it. 01:21:27.246 --> 01:21:33.082 He's just not that guy like and go back to injustice, like he punched a hole through. 01:21:33.082 --> 01:21:35.168 Joker like yo, you killed my wife. 01:21:35.168 --> 01:21:36.755 You're done, like you. 01:21:36.755 --> 01:21:42.409 There's no ifs, ands and buts about it, you know you killed my baby, so, but here's my problem, though. 01:21:42.470 --> 01:21:45.809 Here's my particular issue superman, and this is why I'm not a fan of Superman. 01:21:45.809 --> 01:21:50.033 Superman is weak-minded, and I'm going to say this why? 01:21:50.033 --> 01:21:52.689 Literally how many things have taken over Superman and turned him evil? 01:21:53.581 --> 01:21:54.042 At least three. 01:21:54.042 --> 01:21:54.503 At least three. 01:21:57.601 --> 01:21:58.567 Thank you, Starro. 01:21:59.461 --> 01:22:02.189 Mr Mix-a-pedalick Fucked with him for a long time. 01:22:02.189 --> 01:22:02.990 He's weak to magic. 01:22:06.201 --> 01:22:06.564 He's weak to magic. 01:22:06.564 --> 01:22:07.271 He's weak to so all these things. 01:22:07.271 --> 01:22:10.944 You're the most powerful being that we have, but everybody can tap into your shit. 01:22:10.944 --> 01:22:14.704 How often does Batman put it under hypnosis? 01:22:15.440 --> 01:22:26.228 Or put it into a stupor the last time someone put him under hypnosis, it activated Zoranar, which turned him more ruthless and psychotic. 01:22:26.228 --> 01:22:29.264 It's case like. 01:22:29.264 --> 01:22:38.850 So zuranar is a backup plan for batman, where, if he ever loses control of his body, he has subconsciously implanted a secondary uh personality. 01:22:38.850 --> 01:22:40.594 That's just a psycho. 01:22:41.842 --> 01:22:46.904 I'm sorry, batman is just broken, okay, yeah he's a horrible human being. 01:22:46.904 --> 01:22:50.363 No, I meant like his character is just broken. 01:22:50.363 --> 01:22:50.744 It's OP. 01:22:51.682 --> 01:22:53.235 Oh yeah 100%. 01:22:53.235 --> 01:22:55.293 He basically attached himself from freaking Naruto. 01:22:55.293 --> 01:22:55.859 But I'm

leaving that alone. 01:22:56.804 --> 01:23:02.405 The thing is their entire brand is built on Batman it's Detective Comics. 01:23:03.229 --> 01:23:06.644 I was gonna say I was gonna answer Tim's question about the Superman thing. 01:23:06.644 --> 01:23:11.761 There is one stupidly OP Superman out there and that's. 01:23:11.761 --> 01:23:12.564 Superboy Prime. 01:23:13.528 --> 01:23:13.728 Yes. 01:23:15.362 --> 01:23:21.608 Remember, the reason I say that he's like the ultimate Superman is because he's from our universe. 01:23:21.608 --> 01:23:25.149 He's from here, this plane of existence, and he's been brought universe. 01:23:25.149 --> 01:23:35.265 He's from here, this plane of existence, and he's been brought into the DC universe, so he's not affected by Kryptonite or, you know, the Red Sons or anything like that so he's not. 01:23:35.305 --> 01:23:37.546 he doesn't have the weaknesses of Superman. 01:23:37.546 --> 01:23:48.060 So when it took three Supermans that beat his ass and he was still handling them three on one, Like they had their freaking plot, armor was. 01:23:48.060 --> 01:24:02.987 They beat his ass all the way across the universe till they was able to beat him into the source wall and that's where he remained until the metal, the DC metal storyline happened. 01:24:03.007 --> 01:24:08.550 I think you've just kind of pointed it out to me why the Marvel live action movies are so much better. 01:24:11.043 --> 01:24:28.707 You can't film that shit, you can't film that live action you say that, but the first Avengers movie was them fighting aliens invading from space through a wormhole that opened up in the middle of new york city in new york city, thank you. 01:24:28.768 --> 01:24:32.600 So, like the unfavorable, for some odd reason they can't put in the context. 01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:37.292 You can draw some intergalactic wild shit and give me depth through animation. 01:24:37.292 --> 01:24:44.323 When you try to make me believe it as a reality, they make it look so stupid and we lose focus of what we're really trying to be in. 01:24:44.323 --> 01:24:45.921 I'm a, I have nhd. 01:24:45.921 --> 01:24:47.685 I'm really bad at poking holes of things. 01:24:47.685 --> 01:24:48.889 I can see that's like bullshit. 01:24:48.889 --> 01:24:51.466 It's like, oh, you did a terrible job developing that. 01:24:51.466 --> 01:24:56.087 But when you put new york, okay, that gives me a little bit of grounding, that gives me reality, that gives me turf. 01:24:56.087 --> 01:24:58.416 That's what dc is great at, marvel not so much. 01:24:58.416 --> 01:25:08.657 They want to go fly off of the handle with a lot of shit and sometimes it's like, oh, we lose context, that I, I lose care that's what I just want to say, that marvel, though, we haven't lost context. 01:25:09.016 --> 01:25:12.143 in the big picture movie wise yeah which? 01:25:12.143 --> 01:25:21.083 But in dc big picture movie wise they have no way, they have no context of like, well, how do we show people in space? 01:25:21.083 --> 01:25:22.667 What do you? 01:25:22.667 --> 01:25:27.395 They've been doing it for fucking years, yeah. 01:25:27.921 --> 01:25:28.181 Green. 01:25:28.261 --> 01:25:29.447 Lantern like. 01:25:29.447 --> 01:25:34.248 Granted, green Lantern was a flop, but majority of that movie had a fuck ton of space in it. 01:25:35.202 --> 01:25:38.527 He is a space character he also had spandex suits too Like. 01:25:38.527 --> 01:25:43.149 Dc, you can do so. 01:25:43.149 --> 01:25:45.466 Okay, so back to. 01:25:45.565 --> 01:25:47.411 I have a quick comics question. 01:25:47.411 --> 01:25:58.210 And this is just so, everybody knows that Superman's suit comes from the blankets that were used to, like you know, send him to Earth, right? 01:25:58.210 --> 01:26:01.409 Where does the black suit come from? 01:26:01.409 --> 01:26:04.046 Didn't they make it no. 01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:07.507 No, because of the shipmates we all love the black suit come from, didn't they make it? 01:26:07.507 --> 01:26:07.478 No? 01:26:07.408 --> 01:26:12.283 No, because of the ship we all love the black suit Superman after he's died and he's come back Dope looking suit. 01:26:12.283 --> 01:26:13.027 Where does it come from? 01:26:13.360 --> 01:26:14.164 He gets it in the ship. 01:26:16.279 --> 01:26:22.284 Because that's what some of the yeah, somebody had it, because I think that's what the regular uniform was for their military, wasn't it? 01:26:23.261 --> 01:26:24.525 Yeah, because what Zor-El had? 01:26:24.525 --> 01:26:28.146 Yeah, zor-el, that's Zor-El. 01:26:32.021 --> 01:26:33.443 Crazy motherfucker. 01:26:33.462 --> 01:26:35.423 Zed, no Zed, yeah, lord Zed. 01:26:35.444 --> 01:26:35.864 Zed yeah, lord. 01:26:35.885 --> 01:26:36.865 Zed the Power Rangers. 01:26:37.725 --> 01:26:40.387 Not that Zed, not that one. 01:26:40.448 --> 01:26:43.250 No but, yeah, it's Zod, it's not. 01:26:43.250 --> 01:26:44.110 Thank you, general. 01:26:44.751 --> 01:26:47.313 Well, yeah, on the station On their ship. 01:26:47.412 --> 01:26:52.317 I was wondering Let me burn, yeah, I'm sitting here, just wondering how long this shit's going to go on for. 01:26:52.317 --> 01:26:52.796 I'm going to wait. 01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:56.086 Don't let us burn. 01:26:56.086 --> 01:26:57.670 Yeah, but the suit were black. 01:26:57.670 --> 01:27:02.787 It's on the ship Like know was brought back to life. 01:27:02.787 --> 01:27:04.189 He got it from. 01:27:04.310 --> 01:27:06.113 He got well, like the blue beetle show. 01:27:06.113 --> 01:27:12.127 Uh, our movie did a great job at doing like it was really you know fantastical things it was great. 01:27:12.148 --> 01:27:13.212 That was a great movie. 01:27:13.212 --> 01:27:18.503 Like I like that character, like that character was is a recent, recently new character. 01:27:18.503 --> 01:27:19.865 I think what in the tens? 01:27:20.006 --> 01:27:22.047 I mean I mean Suicide Squad. 01:27:22.047 --> 01:27:25.171 They had Starro,

they did. 01:27:25.171 --> 01:27:29.582 I'm saying like and those were. 01:27:29.604 --> 01:27:31.067 TV shows why? 01:27:31.108 --> 01:27:31.788 do they have movies? 01:27:31.788 --> 01:27:34.886 Suicide Squad was a movie, oh yeah no, that one was a movie. 01:27:35.479 --> 01:27:37.127 But why do the majority of their movies. 01:27:37.359 --> 01:27:38.565 Only Beetle was a movie. 01:27:38.565 --> 01:27:39.944 It was just a short movie. 01:27:39.944 --> 01:27:43.746 Yeah, straight to the century, it would have been straight to TV been straight. 01:27:43.765 --> 01:27:48.426 I'm just saying you've named off two though that were good because I okay, okay, I see, I see why. 01:27:48.787 --> 01:27:58.355 So the reason I think my theory is this it's like all right, you got james gunn who's in charge of the dc movie universe. 01:27:58.355 --> 01:28:00.944 Now I guess you can say well, yeah now yeah. 01:28:01.625 --> 01:28:08.908 so before, like if you, when you did your own standalone movie like a Blue Beetle standalone movie yeah it was. 01:28:08.908 --> 01:28:10.908 You know you made a good movie. 01:28:10.908 --> 01:28:16.847 You're just Blue Beetle and whoever, maybe somebody might show up, maybe not, you never know, it's just a Blue Beetle movie. 01:28:16.847 --> 01:28:18.585 Same thing with Suicide Squad 8. 01:28:18.585 --> 01:28:25.550 Suicide Squad 8, you're going on a mission, go fuck shit up and hopefully you might not die, but you're probably going to die. 01:28:25.550 --> 01:28:28.880 That's why it's called a suicide mission. 01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:31.005 It's a standalone thing. 01:28:31.005 --> 01:28:36.748 But when you try to do the whole Batman, wonder Woman, Superman and we're going to combine them to make them the Justice League. 01:28:38.702 --> 01:28:40.609 I want the Justice League Space Center. 01:28:42.823 --> 01:28:44.309 Just give me the Hall of Justice first. 01:28:44.309 --> 01:28:46.282 True. 01:28:46.301 --> 01:28:47.867 Technically they did have that when. 01:28:50.081 --> 01:28:51.545 I mean the CW-verse. 01:28:51.545 --> 01:28:52.828 Yeah, the. 01:28:52.849 --> 01:28:53.350 CW. 01:28:53.350 --> 01:28:54.764 I'm talking about the movies. 01:28:54.764 --> 01:28:56.269 Why do the movies suck so bad? 01:28:56.479 --> 01:28:57.625 Because there was no. 01:28:59.762 --> 01:29:03.966 I said it once, I'll say it again the reason why is because they have no direction up until now. 01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:12.314 And DCWB did the whole Ford model of managing 35 committees to make one decision. 01:29:13.900 --> 01:29:35.783 And, honestly, as much as we love the Snyder Cut, if we could have all Snyder cuts I would not complain if you told me every DC movie that comes out will now be four hours long. 01:29:35.783 --> 01:29:49.585 No, I'm being so for real though, because A that man should only make four hour long movies, because look what he did. 01:29:49.585 --> 01:30:00.086 It was so much story in that movie, so much story that when

Whedon came through we didn't have a clue what was going on. 01:30:00.086 --> 01:30:04.667 And then come to find out there was a fully fleshed out story going on. 01:30:07.159 --> 01:30:20.131 A whole fleshed out story going on a whole flesh out story, like it really multiple story lines coming back and dovetailing like it's playing, while we randomly ended up in like uh, eastern european village, like why are we here? 01:30:20.131 --> 01:30:43.189 You know, starter cut explain how we got here, you know so like if you came and told me like every DC movie from now on is going to be like Zack Snyder is going to be in charge of the universe and every movie is going to be four hours long, I would be like great when do we start? 01:30:44.149 --> 01:30:52.182 and how they introduce, like you didn't go back and just do origin after origin after origin either yeah, but like fuck it, dude, we don't need. 01:30:52.302 --> 01:30:57.118 I don't need to see Batman's parents dying for the 50th time yeah, right what are you talking? 01:30:57.137 --> 01:30:57.260 about. 01:30:57.359 --> 01:31:09.847 We've seen Uncle Ben die a hundred times bro, if I see those pearls fall one more time or freaking spaceship crashing in Earth and shit, like we already know, bro, if I see those pearls fall one more time, one more time. 01:31:09.847 --> 01:31:11.430 Or a freaking spaceship crashing in Earth and shit. 01:31:11.470 --> 01:31:12.612 Like we already know we're this deep, Just tell us. 01:31:12.612 --> 01:31:20.097 I will say this about the new Spider-Mans with Tom Holland Thank you for not making us fucking sit through Uncle Ben dying again. 01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:23.613 Dramatic enough and personal opinion. 01:31:23.613 --> 01:31:26.507 I know this is probably going to get me clowned on personal opinion. 01:31:26.507 --> 01:31:28.725 A lot of people clown the scene. 01:31:28.725 --> 01:31:30.823 I don't think it's that bad. 01:31:30.823 --> 01:31:32.146 The Martha scene. 01:31:32.146 --> 01:31:42.743 Because, it is one of those things that it's never really brought up. 01:31:42.743 --> 01:31:44.760 Both of their mothers are named Martha. 01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:52.082 Like it's never really brought up, but like both of their mothers are named Martha, yeah okay like it's never brought up but here's my problem, so make it a pivotal point like 01:31:52.082 --> 01:32:01.920 said like randomly because, let's be real, if you're in the middle of a fight and someone said protect your mom, and said her by like her name, first name, you'd be like hold up. 01:32:01.920 --> 01:32:05.487 What the fuck did you just say yeah how do you know my mom's name? 01:32:06.302 --> 01:32:14.739 exactly, and that's what happens but, but it's so dumb, yeah, but that's a real life situation. 01:32:16.551 --> 01:32:22.087 Oh yeah, a real life situation is a guy in an exosuit fighting a fucking alien very real. 01:32:22.087 --> 01:32:23.425 I'm so glad you brought that up. 01:32:23.425 --> 01:32:24.502 Thank you for grounding me. 01:32:27.345 --> 01:32:27.827 Okay, ridley. 01:32:27.827 --> 01:32:37.583 Honestly, what bothers me more than anything is, like the real reason for those two fighting in that particular premise was dumb Batman should have never got coaxed into that fight at all. 01:32:37.583 --> 01:32:38.265 That's stupid. 01:32:38.747 --> 01:32:41.819 Batman killed a lot of people in that movie. 01:32:42.060 --> 01:33:01.789 So from what I've heard, so from what I've heard, so from what I've heard in the things that did get cut from the Snyder version, evidently there's evidently a moment or it was either that, or from the Batman v Superman there's a moment where Batman essentially cucks Superman. 01:33:03.153 --> 01:33:03.720 What he? 01:33:03.761 --> 01:33:17.365 essentially fucks Lois Lane, and superman is watching from outside like with his x-ray vision yeah, like that was supposed to be the thing, that like set them off lois. 01:33:17.466 --> 01:33:21.113 No, don't take that bad justice did he have a chair with him? 01:33:21.113 --> 01:33:24.773 Did he have a chair? 01:33:24.792 --> 01:33:25.113 with him. 01:33:25.113 --> 01:33:29.056 Yeah, but there was no corner to put it in. 01:33:29.520 --> 01:33:29.885 That ain't right. 01:33:29.885 --> 01:33:31.159 Can you imagine that in a scene that's in a theater? 01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:32.404 There's no way that's real. 01:33:32.604 --> 01:33:33.467 There's no way. 01:33:35.623 --> 01:33:36.587 That might be rule 34. 01:33:38.503 --> 01:33:45.867 You say that like there's not actual footage of Nicolas Cage in a Superman costume, so like let's not say it's not real. 01:33:47.230 --> 01:33:50.509 I mean, we did finally get it. 01:33:50.661 --> 01:33:53.904 I have seen that glorious mullet on Superman. 01:33:57.493 --> 01:34:01.087 I mean we did kind of get Nick Cage as Superman. 01:34:05.225 --> 01:34:05.324 God. 01:34:05.524 --> 01:34:08.051 I would pay so much money for that movie to never be made. 01:34:08.051 --> 01:34:11.930 I would pay so much money for that movie to be made. 01:34:12.701 --> 01:34:18.015 I don't know if you're familiar with our show, but we're kind of fans. 01:34:18.537 --> 01:34:19.380 He's got his own category. 01:34:19.460 --> 01:34:26.774 As much as I love Nicolas Cage, one thing I don't need him being is the symbol of peace and justice. 01:34:28.082 --> 01:34:29.126 Well, he was a symbol of justice. 01:34:29.600 --> 01:34:31.908 Why he's about to be Spider-Man Noir. 01:34:33.463 --> 01:34:34.270 See, that's great. 01:34:34.270 --> 01:34:39.202 That makes more sense, which I'll be honest, a lot of people are not prepared for Spider-Man Noir Like. 01:34:39.783 --> 01:34:41.048 Spider-Man Noir kills people. 01:34:41.701 --> 01:34:42.806 I'm just thinking he's going to be. 01:34:42.806 --> 01:34:47.167 I'm to say they're going to think he's all like happy-go-lucky and shit and it's like nah. 01:34:47.420 --> 01:34:53.686 I would like to remind

everyone that Nick Cage was all about justice as the Ghost Rider. 01:34:53.686 --> 01:34:56.804 Yeah, forget about that. 01:34:56.925 --> 01:34:58.140 He was dishing out justice. 01:34:58.140 --> 01:34:59.806 He did pee fire in that movie. 01:34:59.806 --> 01:35:00.127 See. 01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:03.512 Ghost Rider was cinematic. 01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:04.421 That is amazing. 01:35:04.442 --> 01:35:13.460 Ghost Rider was cinematic more you need so let's not act like you know, nick Cage, can't you know, go out there and dispense some justice? 01:35:15.646 --> 01:35:21.382 I wouldn't want to see him as Superman for one reason because Superman always kind of just like he. 01:35:21.382 --> 01:35:23.523 How do I say he's tender? 01:35:23.523 --> 01:35:25.248 No, I can't do that. 01:35:25.248 --> 01:35:27.024 No, I am too good to do that. 01:35:27.024 --> 01:35:28.469 I believe in the good things. 01:35:31.056 --> 01:35:31.479 I don't care. 01:35:31.823 --> 01:35:45.592 I need to see Nick Cage as Superman like can you imagine this scene that Justice League is about to roll out but Superman is like hold on, and he puts on low rider, and you know they're sitting there, y'all getting hyped up and he's like hold on. 01:35:45.613 --> 01:35:46.015 He puts on Lowrider. 01:35:46.015 --> 01:35:46.918 They're sitting there getting hyped up. 01:35:46.918 --> 01:35:48.484 He's like let's go. 01:35:49.661 --> 01:35:52.250 Everybody just jumps out of the watchtower. 01:35:54.363 --> 01:35:57.747 They're all getting into the invisible jet and they're playing Lowrider. 01:35:59.922 --> 01:36:00.672 Lowrider. 01:36:02.322 --> 01:36:03.922 Wonder Woman's up there flying. 01:36:03.922 --> 01:36:09.206 Everybody else is nodding their head and like, yeah, feeling this getting hype, I don't care. 01:36:11.327 --> 01:36:16.845 I fucking love Nick Cage and I need to see Nick Cage as Superman, not CGI. 01:36:16.845 --> 01:36:17.952 Nick Cage Superman. 01:36:18.917 --> 01:36:19.140 Right. 01:36:20.082 --> 01:36:25.148 I need full-blown Nick Cage cinematic masterpiece Superman. 01:36:26.182 --> 01:36:28.530 Who plays the Batman opposite of that Superman. 01:36:34.512 --> 01:36:34.939 Why not? 01:36:36.586 --> 01:36:39.608 why don't we just make it face-off, but DC. 01:36:40.341 --> 01:36:43.988 I swear to God, if we put Travolta as Batman, I take it back. 01:36:43.988 --> 01:36:44.472 I want that movie. 01:36:44.472 --> 01:36:44.707 Travolta Batman. 01:36:44.707 --> 01:36:44.619 Oh my God. 01:36:44.619 --> 01:36:44.934 If we put Travolta as Batman, I take it back. 01:36:44.934 --> 01:36:45.304 I want that movie. 01:36:46.100 --> 01:36:50.788 Travolta, Batman, oh my God yes, travolta. 01:36:50.788 --> 01:36:51.029 Batman. 01:36:51.029 --> 01:36:55.587 Travolta, now I want now Travolta, so bald head Travolta. 01:36:57.220 --> 01:37:00.365 Bald head beer guy oh my God. 01:37:01.841 --> 01:37:02.907 So that's old man Batman. 01:37:02.907 --> 01:37:04.595 Now give me Clooney, give me

Clooney. 01:37:04.614 --> 01:37:05.658 So that's Old man Batman. 01:37:05.658 --> 01:37:06.721 Give me Clooney. 01:37:09.028 --> 01:37:15.724 You want Clooney still, so he can look at you with the eyebrows, but the thing is it has to be filmed. 01:37:15.724 --> 01:37:20.909 The same way Face Off was filmed, when you give them a script and they go. 01:37:20.909 --> 01:37:23.072 I'm just going to improvise all my stuff. 01:37:24.033 --> 01:37:25.173 So we get John Woo. 01:37:26.796 --> 01:37:27.537 We get John Woo. 01:37:27.537 --> 01:37:32.552 John Woo's not in control. 01:37:34.965 --> 01:37:36.733 We're going to film the ending scene first. 01:37:36.733 --> 01:37:37.859 They're sitting and diving. 01:37:37.859 --> 01:37:44.649 You can see a Toronto Batman diving, throwing batarangs at dogs flying by. 01:37:44.649 --> 01:37:47.744 Slow motion batarangs at dogs flying by. 01:37:47.744 --> 01:37:51.675 Slow motion batarangs Grappling hook. 01:37:54.826 --> 01:37:56.444 We have gone down a rabbit hole. 01:37:57.313 --> 01:37:57.695 We have. 01:37:57.695 --> 01:37:58.545 We're a little off track. 01:37:59.595 --> 01:38:00.662 It just shows, how great DC is. 01:38:00.682 --> 01:38:01.527 Welcome to the show. 01:38:01.527 --> 01:38:05.003 Again, I'm trying to point out how great DC is. 01:38:05.024 --> 01:38:07.832 You can take these ideas and'm like yo in a dc universe. 01:38:08.094 --> 01:38:24.229 Yeah, until we get to the movies I feel like we're gonna need to do a whole second episode just for marvel because we've just been glazing the shit out of dc because we're all fans like marvel would be like 10 minutes whoa, whoa, whoa 01:38:24.429 --> 01:38:25.372 I wouldn't say it's 10 minutes. 01:38:25.820 --> 01:38:27.628 Now we're being a little overreached now. 01:38:27.628 --> 01:38:31.027 Yeah, I may be a DC fanboy. 01:38:31.921 --> 01:38:35.086 When I'm a DC fanboy but at the same time Marvel has a lot of things to offer. 01:38:35.086 --> 01:38:45.085 They just can't do animated anywhere near as great as DC and I feel like their stories in comparison sometimes can be hollow, it can be shallow, I should should say, in comparison to the depth that you get from dc. 01:38:45.085 --> 01:38:53.753 Like you go, you go through, true, like emotional discord dealing with dc marvel, like, oh, I'm a little sad, oh, here comes the happy. 01:38:53.753 --> 01:38:54.476 Yep, there we go. 01:38:54.637 --> 01:38:58.546 Time that there's a reason for that. 01:38:58.546 --> 01:39:10.409 Where a lot of dc's characters are normal people who ascend to some kind of position, Superman is an exception. 01:39:10.409 --> 01:39:20.211 In Marvel, it's a lot of god-tier people lowering down to help the mortal man. 01:39:20.211 --> 01:39:27.672 You have Thor and you've got these people with these crazy powers we're talking about. 01:39:27.779 --> 01:39:30.502 Captain America started as a normal guy. 01:39:30.721 --> 01:39:32.286 Yeah, he's the one guy. 01:39:34.110 --> 01:39:36.490 Tony Stark normal dude. 01:39:36.490 --> 01:39:41.485 No, first of all, he doesn't have any powers. 01:39:41.485 --> 01:39:44.654 His power is the exact same power as Bruce Wayne's money. 01:39:44.654 --> 01:39:45.006 No, no, no, no, no, no, he doesn't have any powers. 01:39:44.963 --> 01:39:45.644 His power is the exact same power as Bruce Wayne's Money. 01:39:45.644 --> 01:39:50.488 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, he doesn't know any martial arts. 01:39:50.488 --> 01:39:58.270 First of all, Iron man has an intelligence that is insane. 01:39:58.270 --> 01:40:00.582 It may not be super human. 01:40:01.145 --> 01:40:01.967 So does Stephen. 01:40:01.988 --> 01:40:02.368 Hawking. 01:40:02.390 --> 01:40:02.489 So is. 01:40:04.396 --> 01:40:04.918 Boom Girlking. 01:40:04.918 --> 01:40:06.664 So is Boom Girl and Devil Dinosaur, but we'll get on that later. 01:40:08.149 --> 01:40:12.506 I mean you gotta remember Tony Hawk is part of Illuminati too. 01:40:14.143 --> 01:40:14.444 He is. 01:40:16.103 --> 01:40:16.704 Did you say Tony? 01:40:16.744 --> 01:40:19.431 Hawk, tony Stark. 01:40:19.452 --> 01:40:20.354 That's what I was gonna say. 01:40:20.354 --> 01:40:21.947 Kid Flippin got something to do with it. 01:40:23.823 --> 01:40:24.104 More Tony. 01:40:24.145 --> 01:40:25.448 Hawks sitting there going wait what. 01:40:27.405 --> 01:40:28.673 So, here's what we're thinking about. 01:40:29.301 --> 01:40:32.050 Here's what we're thinking about sending the Hulk to a different planet. 01:40:32.050 --> 01:40:34.386 What do you think, Tony Hawk? 01:40:36.600 --> 01:40:37.063 Will you please? 01:40:37.103 --> 01:40:38.328 stop doing 900s. 01:40:40.341 --> 01:40:41.246 Yeah, let's do it. 01:40:42.280 --> 01:40:43.707 Why do y'all keep coming to me. 01:40:45.060 --> 01:40:47.007 Not even just that he finds out. 01:40:47.007 --> 01:40:52.724 It's like so now outside Dante's house is going to be a bunch of people with skateboards, beating to death Like Tony. 01:40:52.764 --> 01:40:56.243 Hawk's going to show up to my house and he's going to be like, hey, is John Paul home? 01:40:56.243 --> 01:40:58.149 And I'm going to be like sure. 01:40:58.149 --> 01:41:02.425 And I'm just going to hear him getting smacked over the head with a fucking skateboard. 01:41:02.425 --> 01:41:03.646 You know too much, bitch. 01:41:04.587 --> 01:41:06.570 Ah, ah, why the truck's so hard, Ah. 01:41:08.533 --> 01:41:09.215 Loose the book Ah. 01:41:11.001 --> 01:41:13.949 I'll play kick push in the background. 01:41:13.949 --> 01:41:16.926 Coast, kick push, coast. 01:41:17.903 --> 01:41:20.865 And he's just gonna roll out of here and be like bye, tony Hawk. 01:41:23.402 --> 01:41:24.287 Only you can stay alive. 01:41:24.742 --> 01:41:39.632 Iron man does not have, like normal people, intelligence, like he is one of the three smartest people in the entire Marvel Universe, like that man is not normal okay and if I shot him without a? 01:41:39.632 --> 01:42:04.877 Suit he would die

sorry, that's very true, but if we're talking about intelligence, you're saying that, like he can't create a suit out of fucking paper clips and rocks in the middle of the desert he did it in a cave he did it in a cave if you shot him in the head, yeah, you might have a chance yeah, but if you shot a lot of people in the head, you'd have a chance. 01:42:04.788 --> 01:42:05.510 Yeah, but if you shoot you shot a lot of people in the head, you'd have a chance. 01:42:05.510 --> 01:42:06.471 Yeah. 01:42:06.471 --> 01:42:10.823 But if you shoot Tony Stark in the chest, I mean, his freaking nanosuit's gonna come in and stop it. 01:42:11.003 --> 01:42:14.842 So I mean, you shoot Superman, nothing's gonna happen. 01:42:14.842 --> 01:42:16.328 You shoot Tony Stark, he's dead. 01:42:18.001 --> 01:42:18.724 Yeah, you shoot. 01:42:18.804 --> 01:42:19.104 Black. 01:42:19.125 --> 01:42:19.627 Widow, she's dead. 01:42:20.859 --> 01:42:22.086 Yeah, shoot him in the head. 01:42:22.086 --> 01:42:24.712 There's another normal person you shoot. 01:42:24.733 --> 01:42:27.065 Captain America, you shoot the Green Lantern in the face he's dead. 01:42:28.161 --> 01:42:32.087 No, no, no, Captain can take a bullet or two, he can survive. 01:42:32.087 --> 01:42:33.390 Captain can take a bullet or two. 01:42:33.980 --> 01:42:35.567 I don't know if he can take a bullet. 01:42:35.567 --> 01:42:36.510 He wears helmets. 01:42:37.841 --> 01:42:38.786 He does wear helmets. 01:42:41.167 --> 01:42:53.949 I mean, I'm just saying you say there's all these extraordinary people, but the vast majority of them, with the exception of Bruce Banner and Thor, are pretty much dudes. 01:42:55.123 --> 01:42:55.465 You know what? 01:42:55.465 --> 01:42:58.604 And also, this is another thing that got me too, Do you? 01:42:58.625 --> 01:43:00.105 guys know about Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur. 01:43:00.105 --> 01:43:01.043 That's a neutral term. 01:43:01.043 --> 01:43:01.506 Fuck y'all. 01:43:02.828 --> 01:43:03.112 True? 01:43:03.112 --> 01:43:04.984 Do y'all know about Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur? 01:43:05.305 --> 01:43:06.144 Nope, tell us about it? 01:43:06.284 --> 01:43:10.784 Uh-uh, there's a full-blown show that they ended that you need to watch. 01:43:10.784 --> 01:43:13.242 It is brilliant, it is. 01:43:13.242 --> 01:43:15.699 And her brain on and this is canon. 01:43:15.699 --> 01:43:17.527 She is smarter than Tony Stark. 01:43:17.527 --> 01:43:23.962 She is the most intelligent being in all of Marvel freaking universe Brilliant. 01:43:23.962 --> 01:43:26.640 Which caveat she is the most intelligent being in all of Marvel universe brilliant. 01:43:28.469 --> 01:43:30.439 The true smartest person is Reed Richards. 01:43:33.167 --> 01:43:35.109 I think they said that she was a competition with Reed Richards. 01:43:35.493 --> 01:43:39.827 To be honest with you, I believe she is in competition, but he is the smartest as of. 01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:40.984 I mean to be fair. 01:43:40.984 --> 01:43:44.426 It doesn't matter, squirtle can 1v1, all of them DC or Marvel. 01:43:44.426 --> 01:43:44.898 I mean Squirtle has beat Thanos. 01:43:44.898 --> 01:43:45.488 So I mean to be fair, it doesn't matter, squirrel Girl can 1v1, all of them DC or Marvel. 01:43:46.381 --> 01:43:47.783 I mean, squirrel Girl has beaten Thanos. 01:43:47.783 --> 01:43:50.050 So I mean Okay, wait. 01:43:50.371 --> 01:43:51.353 Accidentally. 01:43:51.353 --> 01:43:55.363 If I say that's a full-blown accident, don't you dare put that into play. 01:43:55.543 --> 01:43:58.567 That's the thing you can't put, I'm sorry. 01:43:58.567 --> 01:44:08.476 As much as I love the idea of a parody character like Squirrel Girl being someone who beat Thanos, you can't put an accident as a win, Right. 01:44:10.021 --> 01:44:19.588 What did the greatest street racer ever say A win's a win Rather by an inch or a mile, a win's a win and family. 01:44:21.527 --> 01:44:22.511 You know what he also said? 01:44:22.511 --> 01:44:26.918 You never had me, you never had your, you never had your call. 01:44:27.480 --> 01:44:32.425 So in the unbeatable squirrel girl, a win is a win. 01:44:32.425 --> 01:44:37.488 She has beaten Thanos, that's what we're sticking by. 01:44:37.649 --> 01:44:38.189 That's where we're at. 01:44:38.189 --> 01:44:38.791 A win is a win. 01:44:39.391 --> 01:44:43.805 A win is a win there you go Decker. 01:44:43.805 --> 01:44:44.688 See. 01:44:46.141 --> 01:44:49.286 I'm going to just let that Y'all do that which I won't. 01:44:50.483 --> 01:44:55.123 I'd just like to note this man dismantled Wolverine. 01:44:55.123 --> 01:45:02.265 This man turned a superhero into a pile of cubes. 01:45:02.265 --> 01:45:05.246 Yep, he did it with a gun. 01:45:05.246 --> 01:45:12.109 Right, he put a fucking ball around Cyclops' head that bounced his beam around and blew his own head off. 01:45:15.903 --> 01:45:17.726 And y'all were like how did Squirrel Girl? 01:45:18.421 --> 01:45:20.166 can legitimately beat him. 01:45:20.166 --> 01:45:22.192 We didn't say she did. 01:45:23.042 --> 01:45:23.805 She just won. 01:45:23.805 --> 01:45:32.530 She won her battle, so I mean I mean hey, everybody when they inch by a mile. 01:45:32.530 --> 01:45:38.269 If he slips and, you know, crack his head on the luminal tile, he dies. 01:45:40.240 --> 01:45:51.005 I'm just saying if I show up to a fight and right as we square up, the guy has a heart attack, that's not a win. 01:45:51.828 --> 01:45:52.288 That's a win. 01:45:53.141 --> 01:45:53.886 That's a default. 01:45:55.725 --> 01:46:06.791 If we're playing Halo and I see you about to do an execution and I shoot him, hey, that kills counts for me, yoink Remember that, by the way, he does that're playing Halo and I disconnect. 01:46:06.920 --> 01:46:08.426 You're the worst kind of person. 01:46:09.680 --> 01:46:12.467 But if we're playing Halo and I disconnect. 01:46:12.667 --> 01:46:14.492 That doesn't mean you beat me. 01:46:14.613 --> 01:46:15.054 I

won. 01:46:15.054 --> 01:46:16.015 It's on my record. 01:46:16.015 --> 01:46:22.943 It's a loss on your record, it's on your account, just because the game ended doesn't mean it was fair, hey step your internet up. 01:46:22.943 --> 01:46:23.283 Don't disconnect. 01:46:23.283 --> 01:46:23.865 It's on. 01:46:23.886 --> 01:46:24.488 It doesn't mean it was fair. 01:46:24.488 --> 01:46:25.731 Hey, step your internet up, don't disconnect. 01:46:25.731 --> 01:46:26.193 This ought to own you. 01:46:26.193 --> 01:46:27.877 This ought to own your cow, this ought to own. 01:46:27.877 --> 01:46:28.460 How dare you? 01:46:28.460 --> 01:46:30.127 Yeah, don't disconnect. 01:46:30.127 --> 01:46:33.989 I just want to point out that in all the universes in my 01:46:34.091 --> 01:46:45.332 head the way Thanos really died in Endgame was Ant-Man shrunk down, crawled up his butthole and then expanded in his head, and this is why, we can't 01:46:45.351 --> 01:46:46.274 have nice shit in the hood. 01:46:48.773 --> 01:46:51.667 You just watch the boys and you're like, yeah, that's how they should have won. 01:46:54.243 --> 01:46:57.007 He didn't crawl up his butthole, he crawled up the other hole. 01:46:58.404 --> 01:47:00.014 Hey, I'm not living through that again right now. 01:47:00.884 --> 01:47:01.627 Yeah, let's not. 01:47:04.445 --> 01:47:05.814 This show is not PG. 01:47:05.814 --> 01:47:09.368 My guy, I will lie that scene definitely traumatized me. 01:47:09.368 --> 01:47:13.564 You, I was like oh God, no, and that wasn't his butt. 01:47:13.564 --> 01:47:14.106 He crawled up. 01:47:15.502 --> 01:47:19.890 What makes it even great is the deaths that you get in the show. 01:47:19.890 --> 01:47:23.006 We still got some way worse ones in the comics. 01:47:23.006 --> 01:47:25.440 It's like jeez, oh yeah, yo. 01:47:25.440 --> 01:47:27.720 Everybody's like jeez like yo like oh, this is crazy. 01:47:27.720 --> 01:47:31.000 Like they didn't even do the private jet. 01:47:32.685 --> 01:47:37.110 I have a question the boys is that even part of the DC or Marvel universe? 01:47:37.110 --> 01:47:38.868 Nope, no, it's independent. 01:47:38.868 --> 01:47:43.481 Oh it's independent really neat much like Invincible. 01:47:43.502 --> 01:47:43.983 Oh, it's independent. 01:47:44.002 --> 01:47:44.203 Really. 01:47:45.045 --> 01:47:46.006 Yeah, Huh neat. 01:47:46.027 --> 01:47:56.997 Good for the home party, yeah Much like Invincible yeah, invincible Preacher, yeah just a lot of. 01:48:00.310 --> 01:48:01.194 Let's lose confidence. 01:48:01.194 --> 01:48:02.064 Man, I like going up. 01:48:02.064 --> 01:48:03.819 When I go to the comic book shop, I always check out the independent section. 01:48:03.819 --> 01:48:05.479 You're going to get some awesome stuff. 01:48:07.104 --> 01:48:08.810 I will throw this out there as well. 01:48:08.810 --> 01:48:19.480 The Lego stuff Bangers Every time Not canon Granted. 01:48:19.480 --> 01:48:27.675 The Lego, batmans, the Lego, especially the shows, the games, always great, they're hilarious. 01:48:27.675 --> 01:48:30.525 Oh, I can't complain. 01:48:31.240 --> 01:48:33.368 Superman threw Batman up in front of the moon. 01:48:38.868 --> 01:48:42.372 Oh, they have fun in those, they really do. 01:48:42.393 --> 01:48:42.833 They are great. 01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:44.926 One of my favorite moments. 01:48:44.926 --> 01:48:48.645 It was I think it was Lego Batman 2. 01:48:48.645 --> 01:49:05.206 At one point Killer Croc hurls a sewer cover, a manhole cover, and it just straight up decapitates Robin, and then he catches his head and he puts it back on. 01:49:05.206 --> 01:49:08.684 But I like to think of it as like what, if it was the real world? 01:49:08.684 --> 01:49:11.305 Killer Croc just killed that kid. 01:49:12.702 --> 01:49:16.261 And now he has to go to Arkham and rehabilitate him. 01:49:16.280 --> 01:49:21.447 I will point out that I'm very surprised that Batman has not been put in jail for child endangerment. 01:49:22.661 --> 01:49:25.085 Oh, if they knew who he was, they definitely would. 01:49:26.060 --> 01:49:27.382 Because them kids throw hands too. 01:49:27.382 --> 01:49:30.831 Don't tell them my daddy Bing bing bing. 01:49:31.573 --> 01:49:33.283 It's kind of how it goes man. 01:49:34.849 --> 01:49:35.690 It's going to happen. 01:49:36.199 --> 01:49:39.506 Hell, even Damien, like shit, Damien, like yo I'm with you, pops. 01:49:39.506 --> 01:49:40.782 They want to take you in. 01:49:41.061 --> 01:49:47.913 We'll fight them all Damien's like just say the word I'll straight up murder them, I'll take the whole GCF out and go. 01:49:51.021 --> 01:49:51.864 Murderer, and I loved it. 01:49:51.864 --> 01:49:56.615 Don't kill, but, daddy, that's what I was trained to do. 01:49:56.615 --> 01:50:00.109 It's like what I'm best at. 01:50:00.750 --> 01:50:02.121 Ask mama, you don't even know me, do you? 01:50:02.121 --> 01:50:02.442 What is this? 01:50:02.442 --> 01:50:05.788 You act like you don't even know me, do you Wait? 01:50:05.788 --> 01:50:06.210 What is this? 01:50:06.229 --> 01:50:09.466 Act like you don't, know my mama, what are we doing here? 01:50:09.841 --> 01:50:12.622 When they send him to the Teen Titans, he's like I'm still trying to kill them. 01:50:12.622 --> 01:50:14.346 I'm like, no, you can't. 01:50:14.346 --> 01:50:16.792 That's my granddaddy. 01:50:16.792 --> 01:50:18.506 I'll be honest. 01:50:18.860 --> 01:50:27.047 When they announced that Batman was going to have a kid, I was like I'm not really into this we that Batman was going to have a kid. 01:50:27.068 --> 01:50:28.149 I was like I'm not really into this. 01:50:28.149 --> 01:50:29.551 We've got enough Robins. 01:50:30.073 --> 01:50:32.516 And then they introduced him he said we've got enough Robins, we do dog. 01:50:32.516 --> 01:50:34.689 I was like let's move on from the Robin thing. 01:50:34.710 --> 01:50:35.054 Matter of fact. 01:50:35.054 --> 01:50:36.604 Yeah, we're supposed to be getting another Robin,

aren't we? 01:50:38.242 --> 01:50:40.002 Technically, so hold on. 01:50:40.002 --> 01:50:42.283 So we have Dick Grayson. 01:50:42.283 --> 01:50:44.680 Jason Todd, yep, yep on. 01:50:44.680 --> 01:50:45.722 So we have dick grayson. 01:50:45.743 --> 01:50:51.823 you know, jason todd, yeah, yep, um I can no, I can never remember his name drake, tim drake, that's it. 01:50:52.463 --> 01:51:07.074 Uh, damien stephanie, stephanie brown, yep yep uh, then we have the one who became robin for a short time and then became spoiler oh, uh, oh. 01:51:07.135 --> 01:51:08.838 There was the one who became Robin for a short time and then became Spoiler. 01:51:08.838 --> 01:51:12.899 Oh, there was the one girl too, from Batman in the future, when he's like old man Batman. 01:51:13.560 --> 01:51:13.702 Yeah. 01:51:13.702 --> 01:51:14.766 I can't remember her name either. 01:51:15.701 --> 01:51:17.207 We've had a lot of Robins. 01:51:17.207 --> 01:51:19.186 Spoiler was Stephanie Brown, I think. 01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:24.067 Okay, then that's the one I'm thinking of before. 01:51:24.067 --> 01:51:25.953 That, then was the one I'm thinking of before. 01:51:25.953 --> 01:51:44.347 That then was the one from um, when he's super old and it's the girl who's got like the red hair yeah, that's the one I was talking about oh, for some reason I thought you were talking about from batman beyond no I was talking about from like Hold on. 01:51:47.100 --> 01:51:51.176 The one where he beats the shit out of Superman. 01:51:51.176 --> 01:51:52.543 Was it Helena Wayne? 01:51:52.585 --> 01:51:57.525 No, it was done by I can't remember his name now. 01:51:57.525 --> 01:51:58.944 He did Spawn. 01:51:58.944 --> 01:52:01.207 I think it was Carrie. 01:52:01.226 --> 01:52:01.809 Carrie Kelly. 01:52:04.279 --> 01:52:04.818 Which honestly wasn't. 01:52:04.766 --> 01:52:05.395 Great Robin Frank Miller. 01:52:05.395 --> 01:52:06.110 That's what it was, carrie, which honestly was a great Robin. 01:52:06.110 --> 01:52:07.439 Frank Miller trilogy. 01:52:08.382 --> 01:52:09.527 Frank Miller, that's what it was. 01:52:09.527 --> 01:52:26.149 Duke Thomas, when they announced him I was like, but then he started his whole thing of like I really want to just murder people and Batman being like kid, you've got to calm down. 01:52:28.661 --> 01:52:29.944 But it'd be so easy. 01:52:29.944 --> 01:52:31.350 Just give me two seconds, Dad. 01:52:32.967 --> 01:52:34.216 I don't understand the problem. 01:52:34.216 --> 01:52:37.288 We'd have no crime if you would just let me kill them. 01:52:39.280 --> 01:52:42.527 Also I'd like to point out do not shit on Batman Beyond. 01:52:42.819 --> 01:52:44.247 That is one of the greatest shows ever. 01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:47.626 Whoever has beef with Batman Beyond has beef with me, because I'm like to point out do not shit on Batman Beyond. 01:52:47.626 --> 01:52:47.938 That is one of the greatest shows ever. 01:52:47.938 --> 01:52:48.889 Whoever has beef with Batman Beyond has beef with me, because I'm gonna tell you something, terry McGinnis. 01:52:49.722 --> 01:52:53.043 I mean, my dog is literally named after a character from that show. 01:52:54.167 --> 01:52:55.010 What's your dog name? 01:52:56.181 --> 01:52:56.525 10. 01:52:56.525 --> 01:52:58.925 Like the number 10 from the Royal Flesh. 01:52:58.944 --> 01:52:59.086 Gang. 01:52:59.086 --> 01:53:00.926 I knew exactly what you were saying. 01:53:00.926 --> 01:53:02.381 The. 01:53:02.400 --> 01:53:03.865 Royal Flesh Gang was solid, by the way. 01:53:04.386 --> 01:53:04.948 Solid. 01:53:07.961 --> 01:53:10.935 They were solid like bad guy troop. 01:53:10.935 --> 01:53:16.725 Anyway, and honestly, I'm waiting for a Batman Beyond game to come out or a movie, but once again, one of my favorite games. 01:53:16.784 --> 01:53:18.423 I'll chase this game to the end of the earth. 01:53:18.423 --> 01:53:24.987 It wasn't a Batman Beyond game, but it was a Batman game for the Xbox called Batman Rise of Senzu. 01:53:24.987 --> 01:53:30.722 Oh Senzu, no, no, no, I think it was called Rise of Senzu. 01:53:31.465 --> 01:53:31.706 Senzu. 01:53:31.706 --> 01:53:32.710 Oh okay, no, I don't know. 01:53:34.503 --> 01:53:40.445 And it was all about like this like some, I've never heard of this villain before, but that game was so good. 01:53:40.445 --> 01:53:47.307 Oh, I could talk about classic Xbox games for a fucking year. 01:53:48.479 --> 01:53:53.010 You know I'm going to add one more caveat to the whole Robin thing, Did you? 01:53:53.010 --> 01:53:56.231 Know, Staru's son, Jaru, was a Robin. 01:53:57.556 --> 01:53:58.340 Oh yeah 100%. 01:53:58.340 --> 01:54:07.327 I didn't know, that which, by the way, Jaro is just a Starro that they put into a jar. 01:54:09.011 --> 01:54:10.985 He even had a little Robin suit on and everything. 01:54:12.119 --> 01:54:12.402 Yeah. 01:54:12.984 --> 01:54:13.546 Terrible. 01:54:13.546 --> 01:54:22.363 Yeah, he even he's like he uh feels that Bruce Wayne, well Batman is his dad, because he's so infatuated with him. 01:54:22.363 --> 01:54:23.295 He's like yeah. 01:54:23.315 --> 01:54:23.659 Bruce Wayne. 01:54:23.739 --> 01:54:26.390 He's like Batman's my dad, he'll do anything for Batman. 01:54:26.390 --> 01:54:31.006 He's wrecking shop against the Legion of Doom. 01:54:31.006 --> 01:54:36.702 So, yeah, that's another Robin right there. 01:54:37.743 --> 01:54:38.385 I love you, daddy. 01:54:38.445 --> 01:54:39.788 I got very. 01:54:42.039 --> 01:54:43.445 Squid Billy vibes from that. 01:54:47.481 --> 01:54:50.027 I was thinking about the kid from Shrek who said Do the roar. 01:54:50.027 --> 01:54:54.228 I love you, daddy. 01:54:54.228 --> 01:54:55.152 Do the roar. 01:55:01.034 --> 01:55:05.253 Matt McGinnis was a Robin McGinnis, so apparently he was was a Robin. 01:55:05.274 --> 01:55:09.768 McGinnis so apparently. 01:55:09.969 --> 01:55:16.895 I'm sitting here looking at the DC database and it said Matthew McGinnis featuring oh, that's

Terry's brother, yeah, the younger brother of Terry. 01:55:16.916 --> 01:55:19.529 McGinnis oh, I forgot about him. 01:55:19.529 --> 01:55:21.868 Same everybody did. 01:55:22.239 --> 01:55:23.585 I mean, I definitely forgot, I ain't gonna lie dude. 01:55:23.645 --> 01:55:25.814 I was like you're not important to me. 01:55:25.833 --> 01:55:26.435 Yeah Same, everybody did. 01:55:26.435 --> 01:55:26.817 I mean I did. 01:55:26.817 --> 01:55:30.751 I ain't gonna lie, dude, I was like you're not important to me. 01:55:30.831 --> 01:55:31.453 What do you mean? 01:55:32.399 --> 01:55:34.363 There's multiple storylines involving his brother getting kidnapped. 01:55:35.586 --> 01:55:36.887 Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Not important. 01:55:36.887 --> 01:55:40.914 You keep getting kidnapped, do better Stop getting kidnapped. 01:55:40.914 --> 01:55:43.587 Fight back, shoot Bite somebody. 01:55:43.587 --> 01:55:44.613 He's a child. 01:55:44.613 --> 01:55:45.132 You can shoot yourself. 01:55:45.132 --> 01:55:45.480 Fight back, shoot Bite somebody. 01:55:45.480 --> 01:55:45.376 He's a child. 01:55:45.376 --> 01:55:47.225 You can shoot yourself. 01:55:47.225 --> 01:55:48.829 You can change places. 01:55:50.220 --> 01:55:52.126 You can get kidnapped and shit yourself. 01:55:53.228 --> 01:55:54.430 Mudslide, you two One time. 01:55:54.430 --> 01:55:56.826 Get on out of here, hey mudslide. 01:55:56.826 --> 01:56:06.947 Tell me it's not super effective oh fuck oh. 01:56:06.947 --> 01:56:12.708 Tell me it's not super effective. 01:56:12.748 --> 01:56:14.712 Do we have anything else we need to discuss? 01:56:18.648 --> 01:56:22.082 Empty bowels no jutsu, Slip and slide. 01:56:22.082 --> 01:56:23.087 Oh, he's wearing shorts. 01:56:26.862 --> 01:56:33.148 Earthwall jutsu let go of my purse that's my purse. 01:56:33.148 --> 01:56:35.585 I don't know you remember kids. 01:56:35.585 --> 01:56:45.082 If they're trying to take you shit yourself so I think what we've really established here is that the DC universe is amazing and maybe one day we'll talk about the Marvel universe yeah, we're gonna have to like re-fucking is that the DC universe is amazing and maybe one day we'll talk about the Marvel universe. 01:56:45.680 --> 01:56:59.045 Yeah, we're going to have to like re-fucking name this fucking episode to DC Glazing Episode and like, do a second episode where we talk about Marvel and no, it won't be five minutes. 01:56:59.045 --> 01:56:59.807 Fuck you, dante. 01:57:00.860 --> 01:57:01.664 I said ten minutes. 01:57:01.664 --> 01:57:05.488 This was Bordelon's love letter to DC, to be honest. 01:57:05.648 --> 01:57:13.271 Well, well, they have so many good well, tell them to make a good fucking movie beetle uh batman green animated. 01:57:13.292 --> 01:57:17.953 They have good like interesting characters yeah, they got. 01:57:18.012 --> 01:57:19.578 They just came late to the whole. 01:57:19.578 --> 01:57:23.953 Let's make a shared universe, movie universe, like when marvel was creating. 01:57:23.953 --> 01:57:33.233 So wb's all like, hey, we gotta do the same thing, but they didn't have a plan like you don't like a dc like they have. 01:57:33.233 --> 01:57:43.287 Like so many villains, like you can't really make them like one a big bad, like what brainiac like your big bad is brainiac and you, you gotta, somehow you got. 01:57:43.307 --> 01:57:45.231 Brainiac you got, lobo you got. 01:57:47.043 --> 01:57:49.466 Lobo's not really a villain, a bad guy. 01:57:49.466 --> 01:57:50.984 He's more of like an anti-hero. 01:57:51.365 --> 01:57:52.128 He's a bounty. 01:57:54.667 --> 01:57:58.189 We are bad guys, but we are not bad guys. 01:58:00.024 --> 01:58:01.027 There we go, he gets it. 01:58:01.307 --> 01:58:02.411 He's like Dog the Bounty Hunter. 01:58:03.819 --> 01:58:04.823 Don't use Dog the Bounty Hunter. 01:58:04.823 --> 01:58:05.927 That's what he is. 01:58:05.927 --> 01:58:06.609 I'll be honest. 01:58:06.609 --> 01:58:24.673 The problem with a DC live action is, if you wanted a villain, you either have to go to those weird extremes of like Brainiac or even like they tried to do Steppenwolf For the flash and the CW-verse did it the best with the flash and the reverse. 01:58:24.618 --> 01:58:31.470 Or even, like they tried to do Steppenwolf For the Flash, like, and the CW-verse did it the best with the Flash and the reverse Flash and all that stuff they did phenomenal. 01:58:31.470 --> 01:58:34.390 Why can't we move that into the live-action movies? 01:58:34.390 --> 01:58:41.671 Because that would allow us to have those wonderful over-the-top villains. 01:58:41.671 --> 01:58:48.184 You know, we had Gorilla Grodd, we had, was it Man-Shark? 01:58:49.926 --> 01:58:50.287 Mantis. 01:58:51.389 --> 01:58:54.293 No, no, no, King Shark, king Shark. 01:58:54.293 --> 01:58:57.904 Yeah, that's what it was, man-shark. 01:58:59.609 --> 01:59:00.171 I'm sorry. 01:59:00.600 --> 01:59:08.025 You say that, like there's not literally a character called Man-Bat, that's a valid argument yeah you got me there. 01:59:08.025 --> 01:59:13.045 In the comic Batman there's Man-Bat. 01:59:13.045 --> 01:59:13.627 Okay. 01:59:13.627 --> 01:59:18.784 What's one of Spider-Man's villains' name, the Lizard? 01:59:18.784 --> 01:59:19.226 Okay. 01:59:21.462 --> 01:59:22.225 The Red Skull. 01:59:24.045 --> 01:59:29.859 Just on the nose, like some of these people really not original 01:59:32.988 --> 01:59:40.760 who needs those oh god you want to go break out my book of of what was it called. 01:59:40.760 --> 01:59:43.439 It was like really bad heroes or something. 01:59:43.439 --> 01:59:45.247 Unfortunately named heroes or something. 01:59:45.247 --> 01:59:49.327 Yeah, there was one that was powered by cocaine. 01:59:49.327 --> 01:59:54.405 I think, everyone's powered by that. 01:59:54.405 --> 01:59:58.511 No, I mean, he had like superpowers with cocaine. 02:00:00.064 --> 02:00:12.328 I will say that takes me real quick to Ultraman, the man who,

uh, from the crime syndicate, whose entire gimmick is he snorts kryptonite and that gives him superpowers. 02:00:12.328 --> 02:00:24.149 Oh damn, when he, when he, when he shows up, he collects all the kryptonite on earth and he's just like he's walking around, just like crushing it and like snorting it. 02:00:44.970 --> 02:00:47.592 Just doing bumps of fucking sidewalk. 02:00:47.613 --> 02:00:48.212 Damn, you look old. 02:00:48.212 --> 02:00:59.740 I'm going to crush this up real quick, Damn bitch, you got old Again. 02:00:59.761 --> 02:01:01.568 We drift back to DC, because DC is more interesting, more better. 02:01:02.560 --> 02:01:08.269 Well, I mean, if you want to talk Marvel I can, but we're already at four hours, Right. 02:01:09.282 --> 02:01:10.346 We're listeners right now. 02:01:13.006 --> 02:01:25.586 I could talk for hours on Venom and how Venom's character is so complex, or Deadpool actually being a really deep character, as opposed to the lighthearted nonsense people think. 02:01:25.645 --> 02:01:26.368 He really is. 02:01:27.782 --> 02:01:28.163 Yeah, coming. 02:01:28.163 --> 02:01:30.542 Deadpool is awesome, or how. 02:01:30.561 --> 02:01:34.150 Spider-Man gave Mary Jane cancer because of them having sex. 02:01:35.400 --> 02:01:37.845 Because he was giving her the blue rabbit indigo wing. 02:01:37.845 --> 02:01:40.650 And next thing, you know Next. 02:01:40.912 --> 02:01:45.551 thing you know, or how Rocket Raccoon doesn't know what raccoons are. 02:01:45.551 --> 02:01:47.425 What the hell is a raccoon. 02:01:47.425 --> 02:01:48.706 I do love that fact. 02:01:49.922 --> 02:01:50.787 That tickles me pink. 02:01:51.900 --> 02:01:54.048 He's an alien, he's not a raccoon. 02:01:55.161 --> 02:01:56.104 He is a raccoon. 02:01:56.666 --> 02:01:58.511 He's not a raccoon, he's an alien. 02:02:00.122 --> 02:02:02.289 If not raccoon, then why raccoon shaped? 02:02:04.500 --> 02:02:05.319 I don't know Venom's an alien. 02:02:05.319 --> 02:02:05.765 If not human, then why raccoon-shaped? 02:02:05.765 --> 02:02:07.043 I don't know Venom's an alien. 02:02:07.043 --> 02:02:08.944 If not human, why human-shape? 02:02:10.822 --> 02:02:11.344 I mean. 02:02:14.233 --> 02:02:17.609 Fair, he takes shape of what he's covered. 02:02:17.939 --> 02:02:20.042 Yeah, I mean Venom really Groot is a tree. 02:02:20.042 --> 02:02:21.445 Why not tree-shape? 02:02:21.445 --> 02:02:24.484 He is tree-shape, no he's not. 02:02:24.484 --> 02:02:28.551 What tree has legs, arms and a head and eyes? 02:02:28.551 --> 02:02:30.141 The? 02:02:30.181 --> 02:02:31.908 trees along the rivers here in Florida. 02:02:32.880 --> 02:02:33.242 That in. 02:02:34.422 --> 02:02:36.798 I think you're on the wrong side of the neighborhood, sir, yeah. 02:02:37.301 --> 02:02:37.865 Do trees have eyes? 02:02:37.865 --> 02:02:40.404 Trees have eyes. 02:02:40.404 --> 02:02:41.786 That's the new horror movie. 02:02:43.755 --> 02:02:44.239 Not going there. 02:02:44.701 --> 02:02:46.024 Do all the trees, not have eyes. 02:02:46.927 --> 02:02:46.988 Sir. 02:02:47.007 --> 02:02:47.389 I new horror movie. 02:02:47.489 --> 02:02:48.212 And Shrek, I'm not going there. 02:02:48.212 --> 02:02:49.055 Are y'all's trees not? 02:02:49.055 --> 02:02:49.555 Have eyes, sir. 02:02:49.555 --> 02:02:50.659 I think those are coyotes. 02:02:51.020 --> 02:02:51.966 The hills have eyes. 02:02:52.622 --> 02:02:54.280 The trees are talking to me. 02:02:54.902 --> 02:02:55.643 I don't go there either. 02:02:57.145 --> 02:02:58.347 No, we're not doing that joke. 02:02:58.889 --> 02:02:58.988 No. 02:03:03.780 --> 02:03:04.685 We'll leave that right there. 02:03:04.685 --> 02:03:06.103 Yeah, don't they have? 02:03:06.122 --> 02:03:08.568 I mean, no, we'll leave that right there. 02:03:08.568 --> 02:03:11.793 Yeah, like, don't they have like walking talking trees in like the talking verse? 02:03:11.793 --> 02:03:13.904 Yeah, called Ents. 02:03:13.904 --> 02:03:17.920 See, there's your talking trees Walking talking trees. 02:03:19.649 --> 02:03:20.052 Yeah, that was. 02:03:20.094 --> 02:03:20.760 Lord of the Rings. 02:03:20.760 --> 02:03:22.613 That was like what 1905? 02:03:23.760 --> 02:03:24.207 Right First off. 02:03:24.207 --> 02:03:24.887 There's only one trilogy and it's not of the Rings. 02:03:24.887 --> 02:03:25.608 That was like what 1905? 02:03:25.608 --> 02:03:25.779 Right First off. 02:03:25.779 --> 02:03:30.945 There's only one trilogy, and it's not of the ring, it's fucking Star Wars. 02:03:34.773 --> 02:03:35.394 Batman series. 02:03:35.939 --> 02:03:39.451 There's only one return, and it's not of the king, it's of the Jedi. 02:03:39.820 --> 02:03:40.567 It's of the Batman. 02:03:40.567 --> 02:03:41.051 Thank you. 02:03:41.515 --> 02:03:42.461 Thank you very much. 02:03:42.461 --> 02:03:47.645 I completely fucked that line all to hell, and I appreciate you going ahead and saving that I was going to mess with you about it later. 02:03:47.805 --> 02:03:51.930 Oh, come on, that was three movies about fucking walking. 02:03:52.581 --> 02:03:53.865 Here's the first movie. 02:03:56.240 --> 02:04:03.072 Here's the second movie and here's the third movie you guys like to walk too. 02:04:03.072 --> 02:04:04.880 I like putting on my hokas and going along with this. 02:04:04.980 --> 02:04:06.118 I made a nerd vomit. 02:04:07.083 --> 02:04:14.445 I have never watched the Halo Lord of the Rings movie and I was on a ship in the middle of the ocean with nowhere to go. 02:04:14.445 --> 02:04:19.966 And I still didn't watch that shit because I fell asleep every time that shit was on so I tried to. 02:04:20.067 --> 02:04:22.979 I've watched like two of them and, to be honest with you, I was drunk both times. 02:04:23.000 --> 02:04:23.180 What's up? 02:04:23.201 --> 02:04:25.626 I've watched like two of them and, to be honest with you, I was drawn to both times. 02:04:25.645 --> 02:04:25.966 What's up? 02:04:25.966 --> 02:04:27.729 That might be the sign for us to

wrap this shit up. 02:04:28.771 --> 02:04:30.135 Yep Might be right on that one. 02:04:30.135 --> 02:04:34.729 All right, john, I want to thank you for being on the show tonight. 02:04:35.640 --> 02:04:36.783 Do you want to plug anything? 02:04:36.783 --> 02:04:39.247 Your Instagram, your SoundCloud, anything? 02:04:41.592 --> 02:04:42.555 Not particularly. 02:04:42.555 --> 02:04:45.765 I don't have music anywhere anymore. 02:04:46.707 --> 02:05:01.953 Uh, eventually I probably will uh twitch your subreddit follow me on things at king static og say it one more time for the kids in the back king static og there you go. 02:05:01.953 --> 02:05:05.328 Hey, look for that name, tim. 02:05:05.328 --> 02:05:06.632 You got any last words for us? 02:05:08.297 --> 02:05:08.418 uh. 02:05:08.418 --> 02:05:09.641 Thank you once again for having me on the show. 02:05:09.641 --> 02:05:10.425 Guys appreciate you. 02:05:10.425 --> 02:05:13.141 Also, if you've known me by my handle, I'm big king kuma. 02:05:13.141 --> 02:05:17.391 You catch me on twitch, uh, and it's all the same title twitch, tiktok, so on, so forth. 02:05:17.391 --> 02:05:18.766 I have video games that I like to do. 02:05:18.766 --> 02:05:20.497 Also, I'm a up-and-coming voice actor. 02:05:20.497 --> 02:05:22.684 If you got some scripts you need to hear, bring your character's life, let me me know. 02:05:22.684 --> 02:05:25.372 Once again, I'm here, baby, check me out. 02:05:26.520 --> 02:05:27.786 Jay any last words. 02:05:28.939 --> 02:05:32.349 Hey, I'm a guy who talks about dumb shit on a podcast. 02:05:32.349 --> 02:05:35.583 Reach for the clicker. 02:05:37.130 --> 02:05:37.893 He streams too. 02:05:39.318 --> 02:05:39.760 On occasion. 02:05:39.760 --> 02:05:41.126 It's very rare that I stream. 02:05:41.126 --> 02:05:47.158 If I do stream, you can either catch me oh damn, I can't remember my fucking twitch name, damn. 02:05:48.203 --> 02:05:48.966 Come on, you got it. 02:05:48.966 --> 02:05:52.029 His twitch name is also KingStaticOG. 02:05:55.715 --> 02:05:58.953 Oh you fucking bastard Got him. 02:06:00.609 --> 02:06:00.993 Got him. 02:06:02.626 --> 02:06:03.860 Oh shit, oh man. 02:06:03.860 --> 02:06:05.021 And I am your host, dante, with the final words here. 02:06:05.021 --> 02:06:05.021 You got him. 02:06:05.021 --> 02:06:05.081 Oh shit, oh man. 02:06:05.081 --> 02:06:08.784 And I am your host, dante, with the final words here. 02:06:08.784 --> 02:06:20.762 And I want to thank everybody for staying here as long as you can, to the end of this DC Glaze Fest, because, you know, dc just shows that they're better in everything but movies. 02:06:21.104 --> 02:06:22.805 Well, I disagree. 02:06:22.805 --> 02:06:26.510 Some of the comics are good, like DC, just ah, I remember my twitches, everything but movies. 02:06:26.529 --> 02:06:28.720 I disagree Some of the comics are good. 02:06:28.720 --> 02:06:30.887 Ah, I remember my Twitch is sfsarge21. 02:06:32.403 --> 02:06:33.855 I literally just looked it up and was about to say it. 02:06:33.855 --> 02:06:37.210 If you didn't Say it one more time, I would not let you do this. 02:06:38.000 --> 02:06:40.349 You can follow me on Twitch at sfsarge21. 02:06:40.349 --> 02:06:45.729 That's Sierra Foxtrot, sierra, alpha Romeo Golf Echo 21. 02:06:45.729 --> 02:06:46.979 I'm Sierra Foxtrot, sierra, alpha Romeo Golf Echo 21. 02:06:46.979 --> 02:06:48.605 I'm off in advance. 02:06:50.283 --> 02:06:50.823 In post. 02:06:50.823 --> 02:06:53.070 You can put King Statico G there, right? 02:06:53.070 --> 02:06:55.684 Yeah, we got you, or me. 02:06:55.783 --> 02:06:56.246 King Kuma. 02:06:59.061 --> 02:07:03.667 You can also follow our joint Twitch DFYS Media Official. 02:07:05.492 --> 02:07:09.085 Yep and with that being said, I'm Dante, your host. 02:07:09.085 --> 02:07:22.810 Catch us again on the regular Reach for the Clicker episodes, where we talk about all the great movies and TV shows that we've been watching and also look at another actor's legacy, and we continue on and try to figure out if Jennifer Lopez is a Meryl Streep type. 02:07:23.720 --> 02:07:24.322 God damn it. 02:07:24.363 --> 02:07:33.652 No, the fuck she isn't, and I'd like to remind everyone that Squirrel Girl has defeated Thanos. 02:07:33.652 --> 02:07:35.774 That's it, Thank you everybody. 02:07:35.774 --> 02:07:36.260 Have a good night. 02:07:36.300 --> 02:07:56.389 Now I'm not the one who says no.