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Glad to have him back, as season three of Interview
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with a Killer on Court TV is coming back around.
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David Scott is with us. David, welcome back, man. How
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are you.
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I'm great, Thanks so much for having me on this morning.
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No, absolutely. You and I chatted when Interviewing with a
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Killer was about to first come out, and I was
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picking your brain about the mentality behind the whole show
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and how this is going to be a completely different perspective.
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And you know, as promised has delivered thus far for
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the first two seasons, tell us about season three, So.
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We've gotten better at it.
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I think we've got a whole new roster of fascinating
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cases of killers, and we've got lots of questions for
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those killers. The first episode is a two hour special
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featuring Adam Curtis Williams, a convicted murderer who brutally killed
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two two lovely retired people from New hamp Sure, only
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to steal their trucking trailer and drive himself across the
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border to Mexico as he was fleeing the law. Classic
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sociopathic killer, crime of expediency, heartless crime of expediency. This
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is a career, a career killer. Who now claims to
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have found Jesus in jail and and undergone a religious epiphany.
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And now he says he sees the error of his ways,
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and and we've take him to task on that. I
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think this is the killer who most lets me inside
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of his head and trusts me. It's a scary place
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to be, but we we take him to task and
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in some in some ways rake him over the coals.
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This show, as you know, like everything in on Court TV,
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is ultimately about justice, and we're trying to serve up
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some justice in the court of public opinions.
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We're talking with David Scott. He's bringing us another season
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of Court TV's Interview with a Killer. After Adam Williams,
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so you got you know, he murders a retired couple.
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Then we move over to Rachel Wade, who on the
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age you know, on the timeline of ages here takes
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us to the other end of the spectrum.
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That's right.
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Rachel Wade was a nineteen year old teenage girl when
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she murdered her romantic rival. This was a terrible teenage
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love triangle gone horribly wrong. I mean, really like something
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out of Mean Girls, but instead of high school drama.
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It literally resulted in murder. She has she's she's been
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in incarcerated for a decade and a half. She has
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always claimed it was self defense, but that that argument
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falls apart in our interview and for the first time,
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for the first time on record, she admits that it
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was not self defense. So it's a fascinating case. Your
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listeners will remember it and made national news at the time,
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and you know, unfortunately it landed one teenage girl in
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prison and the other one in an early grave.
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We're talking with David Scott about interview with a killer,
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and then you go right back to Texas for Julius
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Mullins who killed the teacher. David, I want to get
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away from the guests here and talk about you for
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a minute, though. What does this do to you? I mean,
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to sit down and to hear these I mean, it's
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just frank, you know, just blunt explanations, blunt answers. How
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do you absorb that, how do you triage that? How
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do you clock out at the end of the day.
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It's tough, I tell you, you know it.
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You know sometimes I'm not even sure how many of
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these I have. And it really does hear your brain
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and and and your soul. You know, it takes about
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one hundred hours to prepare for one of these interviews
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because we have to know everything. We read every bit
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of prial transcript, sentencing, hearing transcripts, We you know, watch
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all the visual evidence, listen to all the audio evidence,
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look at all the crime scene photos. It really does
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get under your skin. But you know, our training as
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journalists requires us
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to set aside, you know, our our
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personal feelings, our emotions, and and focus on the task
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at hand, which is, you know, trying to understand the
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mindset and motivation behind these cases and man's You know,
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that's not an easy process, I'll tell you ask. You know,
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for forty eight hours after one of these interviews, I'm
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pretty useless because they are so intense, and there's just
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so much adrenaline attached to the just the process of
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entering the nether world that is, the Supermax prison is
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enough to you know, to to bleed you dry. But
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but then you know, you' absorbed, as you say, absorbed
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all the gory details.
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You know of this horror show.
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And uh, and at some point your psyche needs to
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process it. You know, sometimes it comes out in h
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and I've had some of the worst nightmares of my
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life in the process of preparing for these interviews. But
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you know, I think in the end, you know, it's
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there's a discipline to this, and there's a greater good
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and and and that is to you know, try and
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understand these crimes so that we can fight them. And unfortunately,
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some of the answers can only come from the people
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that perpetrate them. So that's why we that's why we
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do it. That's why I do it. And and yeah,
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I think it's a it's the worthwhile and you know,
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for the for the.
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True crime, for the true crime audience, it is really
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different than than basically everything else on the on the
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on the lands.
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Last one before I get you out here and now
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that's where I want to dive into, David, is what
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do we learn Because the last time you and I talked,
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that was an overriding theme, is the hope to learn
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something so that we can you know, better pattern and
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better learn before crimes happened. What did you learn this season?
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Well, you know, this season it struck me, you know,
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I guess maybe halfway through these energies it struck me
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that you know, very often these terrible crimes are the
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results not of one bad decision, but.
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Of years and years.
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Of bad decisions, you know. And Adam Curtis Williams is
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a great example, and he's a career he's a career criminal.
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The decision to to you know, murder these people just
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to take their stuff, it's built on years and years
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and years of dehumanizing behavior. Uh Even you know, even
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someone like Rachel Wade, as young as she was when
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she plunged that nice into the into the heart of
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her romantic rival, you know, she had already been a
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serial truant, a sterial runaway, years and years of bad
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decisions that that lead to the ultimate betrayal of humanity,
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the taking of another human life. And so that's one
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thing that that that occurred to me that I hadn't
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really I hadn't really appreciated, uh in in the in
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the previous season. But you know, even looking back on those.
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Cases, virtually every one.
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Of them is, you know, is a murder that was
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built on years and years of terrible decisions, not just
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one key to the moment.
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Mistake there if nothing else, So selace in that that
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we're not just sitting one stone's throw away from going
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down that path. He's David Scott. It's called Interview with
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a Killer, premieres this Saturday. Appreciate you, David, Thank you
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so much for having me on.
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Really appreciate it.