Jakson 290. The Announcement täydellinen litterointi

episode, so you were hearing it for the first time now, and I apologize for that, but I wasn't sure when I was going to talk about it. 02:41.512 --> 02:45.215 [SPEAKER_00]: So here we are, but Patreon, not going anywhere, I promise. 02:45.716 --> 02:47.637 [SPEAKER_00]: I love the Patreon, and I love this pod. 02:48.922 --> 03:04.493 [SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, there's a couple amazing guests coming up that I already had booked and I also want to plan a really fun true farewell episode that I hopefully get some input from you all about and I don't know yet whether this is a true ending forever. 03:05.354 --> 03:11.316 [SPEAKER_00]: or a long pause, I'm not going to pretend to be certain either way because I've watched it happen both ways. 03:11.376 --> 03:22.779 [SPEAKER_00]: I've watched people like announce a hate as to something whether that's a podcast or something else and then never come back and I've also watched people announce an ending to something that is a true ending and then come back a year later. 03:23.219 --> 03:29.340 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather just tell you what I actually know and that is that right now, I need to step away from this particular 03:32.801 --> 03:35.162 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's going to be some time this fall. 03:37.323 --> 03:46.886 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, this has been weighing very heavily on my heart, and it continues to weigh heavily on my heart as I speak for the last couple of months. 03:47.806 --> 03:51.887 [SPEAKER_00]: I've really been contending with how I'm spending my time. 03:52.887 --> 04:00.450 [SPEAKER_00]: And I've talked a little bit already on the pod and on social media about how my consulting business has really ramped up. 04:01.210 --> 04:09.638 [SPEAKER_00]: to a point where I was losing a little bit of focus on my social media and in a way that I didn't like. 04:09.898 --> 04:16.424 [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't showing up on social media the way that I used two years ago and I wanted to get that back and I wanted to find some of that balance back. 04:17.128 --> 04:18.989 [SPEAKER_00]: And I have done a lot of that. 04:19.429 --> 04:31.156 [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of that has been thanks to my social media assistant who has been absolutely amazing in helping me like wrap my head around my content and really have a plan and show up the way that I wanted to show up. 04:32.057 --> 04:44.845 [SPEAKER_00]: But actually in doing that and in hiring her it really made me take an audit of all of the ways that I've spent been spending my time and I've been tracking my hours on all of the different things that I do. 04:45.967 --> 04:57.233 [SPEAKER_00]: for all of the different work that I do, different aspects of my consulting business, different aspects of FMH, whether that's the pot or my socials or planning trips or what have you. 04:58.894 --> 05:13.443 [SPEAKER_00]: And something really had to get, like as I was looking at that landscape and the things that I wanna do and wanna expand into and don't have time for if I wanna maintain a personal life, which I do. 05:14.723 --> 05:22.947 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and as I, I just kept circling around it and I kept circling around it and I kept thinking I think it's the public pod. 05:23.287 --> 05:31.851 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want it to be the public pod, but I don't have another good option and I want to expand into some of these other things. 05:32.712 --> 05:35.173 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I, I knew what the right answer was. 05:36.976 --> 05:44.799 [SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't let myself choose it for like two months, I've been sitting on this and thinking about it and also thinking about 05:46.323 --> 06:00.187 [SPEAKER_00]: what I get excited about every week and I get so excited to do the Patreon and to really dive into some of the more like nitty gritty things going on in my personal life that I do in that, you know, smaller little community. 06:00.207 --> 06:08.789 [SPEAKER_00]: So like I said, I've been sitting on this for a couple of months and really sitting with it and trying to kind of go down the path of what 06:09.994 --> 06:14.375 [SPEAKER_00]: each of those outcomes look like like what would it look like to fully end the pod. 06:14.595 --> 06:17.977 [SPEAKER_00]: How do I let me try to like sit in those emotions? 06:18.757 --> 06:23.378 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the same thing that I did when I decided to take on the podcast solo. 06:23.438 --> 06:27.680 [SPEAKER_00]: Like when Erica left the pod and I was thinking about, okay, do I want to do I want to end it? 06:27.900 --> 06:29.840 [SPEAKER_00]: Do I want to go solo? 06:30.000 --> 06:32.061 [SPEAKER_00]: Do I want to look for a new co-host? 06:32.581 --> 06:33.201 [SPEAKER_00]: I did the same thing. 06:35.382 --> 06:37.164 [SPEAKER_00]: Avenue in each route. 06:37.324 --> 06:44.732 [SPEAKER_00]: And I really tried to put myself in that situation and feel the emotions that would come if I were in that situation. 06:44.752 --> 06:47.455 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, let's say I ended the pot. 06:47.495 --> 06:48.095 [SPEAKER_00]: How would I feel? 06:49.076 --> 06:50.358 [SPEAKER_00]: Bad at the time, right? 06:50.378 --> 06:54.262 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, no, that deeply in my body, I feel like that's not the right thing to do. 06:54.422 --> 06:57.305 [SPEAKER_00]: I am not ready to stop podcasting. 06:58.689 --> 06:59.510 [SPEAKER_00]: I know that's not right. 06:59.970 --> 07:03.874 [SPEAKER_00]: I then put myself in the situation of okay, what if I looked for a coat another co-host? 07:03.914 --> 07:07.357 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, could that look like do I know anyone or would this be an open search? 07:08.037 --> 07:08.958 [SPEAKER_00]: That didn't feel right. 07:09.198 --> 07:16.725 [SPEAKER_00]: And what ended up feeling very right is to do the podcast solo and I've been doing it for gosh a year and a half I think now at this point. 07:18.310 --> 07:27.995 [SPEAKER_00]: And that has felt so good and I have really loved hosting it so low

and also I miss having a co host. 07:28.115 --> 07:28.815 [SPEAKER_00]: I really do. 07:29.356 --> 07:39.781 [SPEAKER_00]: And I know I've talked before about that like back and forth banter that I had with both work and Erica because we were friends and like already kind of new each other. 07:41.217 --> 07:52.042 [SPEAKER_00]: And I loved that so much and on the Patreon, I actually brought on a good friend of mine a few months ago and we had a very similar type of episode and I was like, God, I really did love that. 07:53.422 --> 07:55.483 [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's something I'll explore on the Patreon in the future. 07:56.503 --> 08:07.368 [SPEAKER_00]: But as I'm thinking about my future, I don't think that the solo podcast route in the way in the form that it's in now, 08:08.969 --> 08:11.070 [SPEAKER_00]: is what is really speaking to me anymore. 08:11.150 --> 08:15.272 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was for quite a while, you know, like all the way through, I would say, the middle of this year. 08:17.133 --> 08:24.456 [SPEAKER_00]: And I really had to take a hard look at that and say, you know, I don't wanna just continue this to continue what I wanna continue it because I love it. 08:25.216 --> 08:31.859 [SPEAKER_00]: And because I'm dedicated to it and because I'm excited about new things to explore on it. 08:31.879 --> 08:31.959 [SPEAKER_00]: And, 08:35.193 --> 08:41.477 [SPEAKER_00]: that has become less and less of the case for me with the public pod in the last two months or so. 08:42.397 --> 08:57.966 [SPEAKER_00]: While my excitement for the Patreon honestly has been growing because of the storylines that I've been talking about over there that I don't really want to do on a public podcast and the way that it feels that I'm feeling the like intimacy of that in a little bit of a different way. 08:57.986 --> 08:58.046 [SPEAKER_00]: So, 09:02.085 --> 09:04.567 [SPEAKER_00]: I think all of this has been swirling around. 09:04.647 --> 09:19.137 [SPEAKER_00]: And when I did that same exercise of like really sitting with myself to put myself in all of these outcomes, I got to be honest with you, none of them felt great. 09:20.217 --> 09:22.319 [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't feel great to sit in the, 09:23.787 --> 09:26.010 [SPEAKER_00]: the public podcast is over outcome. 09:26.350 --> 09:27.792 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was hoping it would. 09:27.812 --> 09:39.847 [SPEAKER_00]: I was hoping that when I really put myself in that future place and sat with the emotion of it, that the emotion would be relief because then I would know that I had made the right decision. 09:40.648 --> 09:54.886 [SPEAKER_00]: And if I'm being totally honest with you right now, it's not I'm worried that this is the wrong decision and I want to trust myself that it isn't and that I've spent the last two months making the right decision for me right now. 09:55.978 --> 10:19.711 [SPEAKER_00]: But there's a part of me that's anxious that I'm going to regret it and that's one of the reasons why I'm saying maybe it's not forever because I do want to give myself enough runway to know so you know not to take two weeks off and then be like never mind I'm back but even as I said here talking to you I feel in my chest like the oh no this might be wrong. 10:21.240 --> 10:22.941 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was really hoping I wouldn't feel that way. 10:23.201 --> 10:31.485 [SPEAKER_00]: When I finally sat down to record this, I was really hoping that I would feel relief and that I would feel peace. 10:32.626 --> 10:33.967 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's a better word than relief. 10:34.447 --> 10:34.747 [SPEAKER_00]: Peace. 10:34.827 --> 10:36.908 [SPEAKER_00]: I was hoping I would feel at peace with the decision. 10:37.368 --> 10:37.788 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't. 10:38.289 --> 10:38.569 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't. 10:39.990 --> 10:41.731 [SPEAKER_00]: I also don't feel at peace with continuing it. 10:41.831 --> 10:43.511 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like there's a great option here. 10:44.712 --> 10:49.735 [SPEAKER_00]: But I have loved this podcast so much. 10:50.878 --> 10:53.862 [SPEAKER_00]: I have grown up a lot on this podcast. 10:53.902 --> 10:55.784 [SPEAKER_00]: And I say that as someone who started it at 33. 10:57.306 --> 11:03.313 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I, it's been the most incredible thing. 11:03.633 --> 11:05.896 [SPEAKER_00]: And it is a big part of my identity. 11:05.996 --> 11:09.320 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that is one of the things that scares me the most. 11:11.053 --> 11:13.274 [SPEAKER_00]: is not having that anymore. 11:13.914 --> 11:24.237 [SPEAKER_00]: And I do really love this longer form and the way that I'm able to elaborate on stories and really dig into feelings and things like that. 11:24.377 --> 11:29.038 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's one of the reasons why I'm excited to continue on the Patreon because I really love doing that. 11:30.779 --> 11:35.260 [SPEAKER_00]: And when I think back to where I was at, when work and I started this pod, 11:36.758 --> 11:46.366 [SPEAKER_00]: and both of us were deep in the dating trenches and obviously it was completely dating centric then and has transitioned into being a little bit more life centric. 11:47.867 --> 11:58.056 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like my life and the things that I like to talk about are so broad and this 11:59.205 --> 12:07.307 [SPEAKER_00]: version of the pod feels like the last piece of my world that is still shaped like that old version. 12:08.347 --> 12:16.450 [SPEAKER_00]: And that I have been sort of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole for a little while now. 12:17.310 --> 12:17.510 [SPEAKER_00]: And 12:19.333 --> 12:22.214 [SPEAKER_00]: know that there are a lot of you out there thinking we told you so. 12:22.454 --> 12:29.777 [SPEAKER_00]: And sure, you did, but I had to come to it myself, you know, because I still really, really love this pot. 12:29.837 --> 12:32.998 [SPEAKER_00]: And even as I said here, talking to you today, I still really love doing this

podcast. 12:33.478 --> 12:37.480 [SPEAKER_00]: Be a whole lot easier to decide to stop if I didn't love it anymore. 12:39.564 --> 12:42.488 [SPEAKER_00]: I honestly I wish that were the case, because it would make it a hell of a lot easier. 12:42.908 --> 12:52.220 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think when I really take a hard look at where it makes sense for me to be spending my time, because concasting takes a lot of time. 12:52.660 --> 12:53.461 [SPEAKER_00]: And I love it, right? 12:53.481 --> 12:55.564 [SPEAKER_00]: It's good time, but it's a lot of time. 12:56.976 --> 13:03.442 [SPEAKER_00]: When I really take a hard look at where I'm spending my time, this is not where it makes sense for me to do it anymore. 13:04.083 --> 13:08.948 [SPEAKER_00]: And I have been building something else that this doesn't really fit with. 13:09.228 --> 13:15.554 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is where the tension of sort of my two identities has become the most present for me. 13:16.543 --> 13:19.044 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, am I a consultant who also creates? 13:19.164 --> 13:20.864 [SPEAKER_00]: Am I a creator who also consults? 13:21.104 --> 13:30.126 [SPEAKER_00]: I obviously am both things, but this is the place where the tension has been loudest and most pronounced. 13:30.727 --> 13:35.488 [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's the thing that, for starters, has a weekly deadline. 13:36.508 --> 13:53.025 [SPEAKER_00]: Unlike my content, the podcast is not something that can have been flow, and I don't want my content to have been flow, mostly in the way that it has been in the last year or so, as I've really been ramping my consulting business, I don't want my content to do that, but it has the ability to. 13:54.618 --> 13:56.199 [SPEAKER_00]: podcasting does not, right? 13:56.239 --> 14:12.344 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, there is a weekly deadline is a very time-consuming endeavor between the actual, you know, all of the planning that goes into an episode and the recording and the post-production stuff and the business side of things with the advertisers like all of that. 14:13.084 --> 14:13.764 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm self-manage. 14:13.804 --> 14:16.225 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not on a network and I never wanted to be. 14:16.305 --> 14:19.686 [SPEAKER_00]: We made that decision very consciously a few times throughout the podcast journey. 14:20.446 --> 14:21.066 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a lot of time. 14:24.182 --> 14:28.243 [SPEAKER_00]: It just felt like that was, that was the piece that was holding the most tension for me. 14:28.543 --> 14:41.027 [SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, even as I say in this hell out, it hurts, it hurts because I know that it's the right thing. 14:42.508 --> 14:45.489 [SPEAKER_00]: And yet, it doesn't feel good. 14:46.889 --> 15:05.104 [SPEAKER_00]: And the other way doesn't feel good either like the last I basically I sat with that I first had this thought that I needed to like seriously consider ending the public pod of course I've thought about it in the past, but I first had it a more serious thought about this in maybe June maybe July forget a couple months ago and 15:06.579 --> 15:10.381 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay, let me sit with this for a few weeks. 15:11.622 --> 15:12.562 [SPEAKER_00]: See how that feels. 15:13.442 --> 15:17.184 [SPEAKER_00]: And I did that and I thought, no, it's not ready. 15:17.244 --> 15:18.085 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not the time. 15:19.125 --> 15:23.067 [SPEAKER_00]: I had a few episodes in a row where I was really jazzed and I was like, I can't get this up. 15:24.948 --> 15:26.169 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm like, okay, never mind. 15:26.269 --> 15:28.430 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, we're gonna keep going with this. 15:28.470 --> 15:29.651 [SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't the right decision. 15:30.291 --> 15:33.112 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I sat with that for a few more weeks. 15:36.373 --> 15:42.717 [SPEAKER_00]: was still feeling the way that I had felt when I first decided to start seriously considering making this decision. 15:43.397 --> 15:47.099 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's when I realized I don't think I'm ever going to be ready to end the pod. 15:47.179 --> 15:49.480 [SPEAKER_00]: But that doesn't mean that it's not the right thing to do. 15:51.161 --> 15:55.183 [SPEAKER_00]: And that took a lot for me to get there. 15:55.203 --> 15:59.406 [SPEAKER_00]: I talked to my therapist a lot about it, too, that being ready for something. 16:01.382 --> 16:04.863 [SPEAKER_00]: or not being ready for something doesn't mean that it's not the right thing to do. 16:05.644 --> 16:06.784 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I'll ever be ready. 16:08.064 --> 16:20.049 [SPEAKER_00]: And what I didn't want to have happen is for it to turn into a situation where I go further or pass the point that I really should have. 16:21.209 --> 16:25.011 [SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm regretting and resenting my past self 16:29.017 --> 16:33.981 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, I want to be really, really, really clear about what's not going anywhere. 16:34.421 --> 16:37.443 [SPEAKER_00]: The Patreon is continuing our weekly episodes over there. 16:37.483 --> 16:41.966 [SPEAKER_00]: The listener question forum, the monthly lives, the discord. 16:43.187 --> 16:47.630 [SPEAKER_00]: I really, really, really love that community so much and it is not going anywhere. 16:47.710 --> 16:49.752 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you're interested in checking us on Patreon, 16:50.172 --> 16:54.773 [SPEAKER_00]: There are free trials, it's $8 a month, but there are free trials, patreon.com slash finding Mr. 16:54.813 --> 16:55.013 [SPEAKER_00]: Height. 16:55.133 --> 16:56.513 [SPEAKER_00]: It's always in the show notes here too. 16:56.753 --> 17:00.694 [SPEAKER_00]: And the archives days up, almost 300 episodes, which is crazy. 17:00.774 --> 17:04.035 [SPEAKER_00]: I actually had the thought, like, should I just fucking get to 300 episodes? 17:04.975 --> 17:06.795 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I should just get to 300 episodes. 17:06.835 --> 17:08.056 [SPEAKER_00]: And then like, why am I

doing that? 17:08.416 --> 17:14.557 [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe I still will, because like I said, I don't actually know exactly when this is gonna happen, but chances are we won't get that far. 17:14.817 --> 17:15.997 [SPEAKER_00]: The kind of luck's not going anywhere. 17:16.157 --> 17:17.898 [SPEAKER_00]: Anytime you wanna look up an old episode, 17:20.778 --> 17:26.400 [SPEAKER_00]: You are absolutely free to do that and I love that people go back to episodes on that note. 17:27.161 --> 17:29.782 [SPEAKER_00]: I am building the actual farewell episode. 17:29.802 --> 17:33.143 [SPEAKER_00]: So this is the announcement, but it is not the actual farewell episode. 17:34.183 --> 17:37.124 [SPEAKER_00]: I want you in my farewell episode. 17:37.545 --> 17:41.026 [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to feature some listeners in my farewell episode. 17:42.429 --> 18:00.319 [SPEAKER_00]: If there's an episode that you keep going back to, a guest that really resonates with you to this day, an episode that changed something for you or made you think about something differently, maybe how you found the show and what was going on in your life at the time and what's going on in your life now, you know, I look very different. 18:01.059 --> 18:02.540 [SPEAKER_00]: from 2021 to 2021 to 2026. 18:02.700 --> 18:06.843 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so curious what your life has been like in that time period. 18:06.863 --> 18:08.844 [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to hear from you. 18:09.185 --> 18:16.930 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you have any such submission that you would like to submit, as always, you can use this submission form at finding Mr. High.com slash podcast. 18:17.390 --> 18:24.835 [SPEAKER_00]: Also feel free to send me a DM on Instagram, or if you want to send me a voice memo, and you're comfortable with your voice being on the show, you can email that to podcast at 18:28.619 --> 18:33.881 [SPEAKER_00]: I would just really, really love to have some listener inclusion in the fair while episode. 18:34.281 --> 18:37.702 [SPEAKER_00]: And I will say this a million times between now and then, but thank you. 18:38.863 --> 18:45.165 [SPEAKER_00]: If you've been listening for five years or five weeks or five minutes, thank you. 18:45.865 --> 18:49.226 [SPEAKER_00]: This podcast has meant more to me than I can even express. 18:50.467 --> 18:50.647 [SPEAKER_00]: And, 18:52.498 --> 19:05.626 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to continuing the Patreon, I just want to say that so many times because I don't want the patrons to think I'm abandoning them and I didn't say anything because that's why I didn't say anything because the patrons aren't going anywhere. 19:07.007 --> 19:13.671 [SPEAKER_00]: This podcast has met so much to me and it has been an integral part of my life and my identity for over five years. 19:15.325 --> 19:28.035 [SPEAKER_00]: And frankly, I'm worried to scare it about what it's going to feel like to not have it and maybe we'll be chatting again in 2027 after a hiatus and I realize you know what I I still want to have a podcast. 19:29.792 --> 19:33.954 [SPEAKER_00]: But I wanna give myself the time to see and to figure that out. 19:33.974 --> 19:35.855 [SPEAKER_00]: I want podcasts to have seasons. 19:36.795 --> 19:38.256 [SPEAKER_00]: Our pod has never gone on break. 19:38.336 --> 19:40.117 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we've taken like one week off, right? 19:40.357 --> 19:43.979 [SPEAKER_00]: Here and there for vacations or a holiday, but we've never gone on a break before. 19:44.539 --> 19:47.280 [SPEAKER_00]: In almost six years, five and a half years. 19:48.901 --> 19:52.463 [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe this break is forever, I'm not sure, but for now, 19:54.098 --> 20:09.032 [SPEAKER_00]: It is goodbye to the public pond and I just really hope to hear from you all for that farewell episode and like I said, I have a couple awesome guests coming up that I am super excited about. 20:10.134 --> 20:13.977 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I didn't want to end the pod before having them on because they've been on the books for a while. 20:13.997 --> 20:14.598 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to pomp it. 20:15.625 --> 20:16.866 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to be really great. 20:17.566 --> 20:21.109 [SPEAKER_00]: And I also want to give you your media mention this week, because that's been a lot of fun for me. 20:21.129 --> 20:23.310 [SPEAKER_00]: I've really enjoyed the media mention section. 20:23.670 --> 20:29.194 [SPEAKER_00]: And I have a couple of awesome ones this week from our road trip that we took down to Skyline's family. 20:29.214 --> 20:32.636 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I have four podcasts recommendations for you. 20:32.716 --> 20:34.358 [SPEAKER_00]: Mine is ending, but here for other ones. 20:35.198 --> 20:36.558 [SPEAKER_00]: Two, I've talked about before on the pod. 20:36.719 --> 20:37.939 [SPEAKER_00]: One of them work in a news me too. 20:38.339 --> 20:39.359 [SPEAKER_00]: That is normal gossip. 20:40.060 --> 20:41.400 [SPEAKER_00]: I've mentioned it before. 20:41.440 --> 20:42.840 [SPEAKER_00]: The two of them will be new, I promise. 20:42.900 --> 20:50.343 [SPEAKER_00]: But I just have to give normal gossip another shout because it is so fun to listen to with other people. 20:50.763 --> 20:56.885 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's one of the things that Skyline and I were looking for in our road trip podcasts is we wanted something that felt 20:57.886 --> 21:00.327 [SPEAKER_00]: like a discussion, but a fun discussion. 21:00.767 --> 21:02.788 [SPEAKER_00]: Normal gossip hits that nail on the head. 21:03.368 --> 21:08.190 [SPEAKER_00]: It is anonymous listener gossip that is retold to a guest. 21:08.390 --> 21:10.571 [SPEAKER_00]: So the host rotates a little bit. 21:10.591 --> 21:11.451 [SPEAKER_00]: They're hilarious. 21:11.991 --> 21:13.011 [SPEAKER_00]: The guests are all hilarious. 21:13.412 --> 21:19.874 [SPEAKER_00]: The host retells an anonymous listener submission that is like something gossip related to the guest. 21:21.071 -->

21:30.397 [SPEAKER_00]: And it is usually very like light-hearted, low stakes, but heavy lore, think like H.O.A. 21:30.517 --> 21:35.060 [SPEAKER_00]: neighborhood drama, or like a girl's trip gone wrong, very low stakes. 21:35.120 --> 21:47.547 [SPEAKER_00]: Like no one's getting seriously injured, and that actually helps as a listener, it helps you like play into it, because you're not like, if someone's missing, you're not worried that they're gonna like turn up dead, because this is not a true crime path. 21:47.567 --> 21:48.288 [SPEAKER_00]: This is normal gossip. 21:49.292 --> 21:58.679 [SPEAKER_00]: just normal, normal stuff, and it's so funny, and it allows you as like the group in the car to talk to each other about like, what do you think's going to happen next? 21:58.699 --> 22:00.000 [SPEAKER_00]: What would you do in this situation? 22:00.120 --> 22:04.343 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, shit, her, I'm just trying to think of a random example of a story. 22:04.383 --> 22:08.066 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, their neighbors started turning floodlights on it two in the morning. 22:08.186 --> 22:09.167 [SPEAKER_00]: What would you do? 22:10.766 --> 22:14.867 [SPEAKER_00]: And you can like pause the pod, obviously, and like chat about all that stuff, super, super fun. 22:15.307 --> 22:22.150 [SPEAKER_00]: The other one I've mentioned before, that we love on road trips is good hang with Amy Poler, a couple recent episodes that stand out. 22:22.610 --> 22:29.532 [SPEAKER_00]: The Keenan one, and the Kiki Palmer one, both excellent, my favorites overall, though, are the ones that she's done. 22:29.592 --> 22:39.315 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I guess Keenan falls in this category, but the ones that she's done with her SNL castmates, but I'm talking like her OG castmates, like the Tina Fey episode, for example. 22:40.195 --> 22:53.719 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so funny, but also just as somebody who grew up on SNL, endlessly fascinating in terms of hearing like a lot of the backstory of things that we're going on, uh, and it's really, really good. 22:54.459 --> 22:57.040 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, here are the two that we discovered on this road trip. 22:57.360 --> 23:01.421 [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks to people on my Instagram who submitted them as suggestions for us. 23:02.201 --> 23:03.402 [SPEAKER_00]: The first is called a bit fruity. 23:04.381 --> 23:09.625 [SPEAKER_00]: The host name is Matt Bernstein, he deep dives into various topics. 23:09.866 --> 23:18.193 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit more of a serious one, but he is funny, he deep dives into various topics, especially stuff related to like internet discourse. 23:19.424 --> 23:42.292 [SPEAKER_00]: The one that's gotten, and I liked the most that we listen to was the crunchy to right wing pipeline episode and he had a guest on they do a lot of research on the topic, he'll have a guest on that has like expertise in a particular topic and they really deep dive into it, the episodes are a little longer and they fly by so it's a good like way to make time go quickly. 23:43.952 --> 23:45.753 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's my ultimate ultimate. 23:47.437 --> 23:49.039 [SPEAKER_00]: podcast wreck from this road trip though. 23:49.780 --> 23:50.821 [SPEAKER_00]: And that is we're here to help. 23:52.042 --> 24:01.273 [SPEAKER_00]: It is Jake Johnson, who is Nick Miller from New Girl and Garrett Reynolds, who's a stand up comedian and also a good friend of his and Brian the security guard from New Girl. 24:02.795 --> 24:04.917 [SPEAKER_00]: If you listen to their pod, maybe you'll get that reference. 24:06.065 --> 24:16.314 [SPEAKER_00]: they are so fucking funny, the premise of the pod is that they are giving advice to callers, but it's not good advice necessarily. 24:16.354 --> 24:20.837 [SPEAKER_00]: Like their vibe is that they're like your two drunk uncles at the bar giving you advice on something. 24:21.198 --> 24:24.701 [SPEAKER_00]: And all of these problems people are calling in with, again, low stakes. 24:24.781 --> 24:27.243 [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody is calling in with like a matter of life and death. 24:27.723 --> 24:33.488 [SPEAKER_00]: People are calling in because they need help with their German accent for a game of Dungeons and Dragons. 24:33.928 --> 24:51.465 [SPEAKER_00]: or they gave their boss a really weird birthday gift and they haven't mentioned it and now everything's weird in the office or they had a bunch of friends over to their parent house and somebody used their parents biday and like made a mess and they're trying to figure out who it was. 24:52.085 --> 24:53.266 [SPEAKER_00]: It's stuff like that. 24:54.088 --> 24:57.370 [SPEAKER_00]: where again, it's they're not matters of life and death. 24:57.390 --> 24:59.050 [SPEAKER_00]: Their problems are very low stakes. 24:59.331 --> 25:02.292 [SPEAKER_00]: And so therefore getting bad advice on them is like not a big deal. 25:03.112 --> 25:03.933 [SPEAKER_00]: It's hilarious. 25:03.993 --> 25:06.194 [SPEAKER_00]: We listened to a couple of the more recent episodes. 25:06.334 --> 25:08.075 [SPEAKER_00]: I just like Googled what some of the best ones were. 25:08.855 --> 25:11.496 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we loved it so much that we went back to the very beginning. 25:11.536 --> 25:13.217 [SPEAKER_00]: There are so many episodes of this guys. 25:14.438 --> 25:16.079 [SPEAKER_00]: So many hundreds of episodes. 25:16.119 --> 25:18.980 [SPEAKER_00]: So we have a long way to go, but we started an episode one. 25:20.731 --> 25:22.072 [SPEAKER_00]: on the way to Charleston. 25:22.792 --> 25:26.874 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think we're on episode 12 or 13, maybe 14. 25:27.414 --> 25:33.517 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, we listen to it the entire time on that drive and then all 12 hours back to New York City. 25:34.537 --> 25:35.838 [SPEAKER_00]: And I never one time got bored of it. 25:36.298 --> 25:38.999 [SPEAKER_00]: I never one time got bored, time flew by. 25:39.059 --> 25:42.381 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, it's something where the

podcast is playing 25:43.465 --> 25:46.127 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's a thing that happens and you can be like, well, what would you do? 25:46.188 --> 25:47.329 [SPEAKER_00]: And you like, pause a second. 25:47.629 --> 25:52.874 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, like, Jake and Garrett said that he should just never mention the birthday gift again and hope his boss forgets about it. 25:52.894 --> 25:54.255 [SPEAKER_00]: But like, I would say something. 25:54.996 --> 25:56.817 [SPEAKER_00]: And you can kind of go back and forth like that. 25:57.117 --> 26:00.180 [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, if you've watched New Girl, you know Jake Johnson is hilarious. 26:00.200 --> 26:01.221 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's so funny. 26:01.962 --> 26:06.866 [SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes they have guests on the ones with their new girl, castmates are particularly funny. 26:07.647 --> 26:09.827 [SPEAKER_00]: Think Damon Wange, Jr. is probably my favorite. 26:10.068 --> 26:11.148 [SPEAKER_00]: Lamor and Morris is great too. 26:11.188 --> 26:12.208 [SPEAKER_00]: Max, I mean, they're all great. 26:12.228 --> 26:13.068 [SPEAKER_00]: They have Max Greenfield. 26:13.088 --> 26:15.769 [SPEAKER_00]: They have a Zoe Deshenel, early on. 26:15.789 --> 26:20.250 [SPEAKER_00]: They had all of, they've already had all of those people early on, but they've come back more recently. 26:21.110 --> 26:21.810 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just really good. 26:22.190 --> 26:23.050 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really, really good. 26:23.650 --> 26:30.612 [SPEAKER_00]: So I wanted to give you all a medium-enchant, which might be kind of weirdly placed at the end of this episode. 26:31.212 --> 26:31.612 [SPEAKER_00]: But, 26:34.238 --> 26:48.611 [SPEAKER_00]: I just, I can't express enough how much it has meant to me to have people listen to this pod every week for as long as we've been on the air as long as I've been on the air and previously we. 26:50.693 --> 26:57.219 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so special and it is such an honor and there are no words that will 27:02.693 --> 27:03.553 [SPEAKER_00]: This is not an ending. 27:03.573 --> 27:04.693 [SPEAKER_00]: This is not goodbye. 27:04.713 --> 27:06.374 [SPEAKER_00]: It is just a change of format. 27:06.434 --> 27:14.255 [SPEAKER_00]: It is not a loss of our relationship as much as it's feeling that way to me right now, the containers just changing, but like I said, I would love. 27:15.556 --> 27:22.817 [SPEAKER_00]: If you wanted to try to join me over on Patreon, we have a lot of fun over there, but I also am showing up on social media more now, too. 27:22.897 --> 27:29.899 [SPEAKER_00]: And I want to do some more like yapping stuff there like I used to, honestly, and I want to try that too. 27:29.979 --> 27:31.459 [SPEAKER_00]: So we can connect there as well. 27:33.463 --> 27:53.195 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a little bit of a shorter episode because I felt like it was weird to have like a totally different topic, just sort of shoe-worned into this very specific topic or like a guest to be like, hey, so and so in the beginning of this episode, I said the podcast is ending, but how are you? 27:53.735 --> 27:55.756 [SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't want to do that. 27:57.317 --> 27:58.358 [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you all so much. 27:59.862 --> 28:12.548 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, if you want to be a part of the fair world episode, finding Mr. Height.com slash podcast is the submission form or send me a DM or if you want to do a voice memo, you can send that to podcast at findingMrHeight.com. 28:12.568 --> 28:15.670 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you can also attach a file in the submission form. 28:16.470 --> 28:17.931 [SPEAKER_00]: Contact me in any way that you desire. 28:17.951 --> 28:19.612 [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to hear from you. 28:19.632 --> 28:21.213 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll talk to you next week.