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Speaker 7: Riverside, Stanley Strader Park, Watkins Park, and also Windsor Park Family Center. So most of the parks here in the city. And you can call 211 or 866-211-9966 to. 00:05:17 Speaker 4: Find out more. 00:05:19 Speaker 7: Okay. 00:05:21 Speaker 3: Well, yes, absolutely. And again, just check on it. I can't say that enough. Check on people. 00:05:29 Speaker 4: That's true. 00:05:30 Speaker 3: It's so important to do that. 00:05:31 Speaker 7: The hours vary, too, on some of these cooling centers. 00:05:36 Speaker 2: But some of them may have extended hours, depending on how intense the heat is. 00:05:39 Speaker 10: That's true. 00:05:40 Speaker 3: What's the heat index today? Did you say well over 100? 00:05:43 Speaker 8: Yes. 00:05:43 Speaker 4: Right now, it's 100. 00:05:44 Speaker 7: That's what it feels like outside, if you're outside. 00:05:47 Speaker 4: Yesterday, it was 112. 00:05:48 Speaker 6: What? 00:05:48 Speaker 4: Yes. 00:05:49 Speaker 7: That's what it felt like by yesterday. When I got into my car after work, we were wrapped up upstairs after the other things I have to do. 00:05:58 Speaker 6: It was. 00:05:59 Speaker 7: 98, 98 is what it registered. And the car said it was 95, 98 degrees then. And inside it was much warmer than that, of course. 00:06:10 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:06:11 Speaker 7: You know, had to open the windows, all those good things before I got going. 00:06:16 Speaker 6: Yeah, indeed. 00:06:17 Speaker 1: All righty. 00:06:18 Speaker 3: So at least another 24 hours plus, another maybe 24, maybe 30, 8 o'clock. Yeah, 8 o'clock tomorrow. 00:06:22 Speaker 6: So, yeah. 00:06:29 Speaker 3: So hang in there. Hang in there. 00:06:30 Speaker 4: Yes, keep cool. 00:06:31 Speaker 3: Keep cool, indeed. 00:06:33 Speaker 2: Speaking of keeping cool, this happened just a short time ago. It came across, as I like to say, a push alert. I love those push alerts. 00:06:41 Speaker 4: Shall I give you the special music? 00:06:44 Speaker 3: For what? 00:06:44 Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:06:45 Speaker 3: I guess you could. 00:06:46 Speaker 4: Shall we? 00:06:46 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay. 00:06:47 Speaker 3: Breaking news. 00:06:47 Speaker 5: Yeah, go ahead. 00:06:48 Speaker 10: Here it is. 00:06:51 Speaker 4: Okay. It's official. 00:06:54 Speaker 2: Here we go. It looks like the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission, the IURC, voted 3-1 to rehear the contentious $ 7. 1 million rate hike for AES Indiana. 00:07:12 Speaker 6: Rehear? 00:07:13 Speaker 3: Rehear that, yes. 00:07:16 Speaker 2: This after a pushback from Governor Mike Braun and consumer groups. And I'm getting this straight off the web. So apparently the key details of the rehearing of the decision for the rate hike is the commission agreed today, September 2nd, to reopen the case. 00:07:37 Speaker 8: Oh. 00:07:37 Speaker 2: It originally approved in June 2026. Wonder what could have brought that on. It says pushback, but. 00:07:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, pushback. There are pressure. Yeah. 00:07:49 Speaker 7: Maybe citizens groups got their attention. 00:07:52 Speaker 2: It says the pushback from Governor Mike Braun, who strongly opposed the initial increase, citing utility affordability as a top priority, and subsequently shook up the regulatory board by replacing commission leadership. 00:08:05 Speaker 4: Maybe that was it. 00:08:07 Speaker 3: A wink and a smile and a check on his way out. 00:08:09 Speaker 7: A wink and a smile and a check. 00:08:13 Speaker 3: It happened. 00:08:13 Speaker 4: I'm trying to control myself. 00:08:15 Speaker 3: It happened. 00:08:15 Speaker 4: We can smile at a check. 00:08:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a check. 00:08:19 Speaker 2: So, you know, the firing, whether to grant the compensation fits Indiana's five. Anyway, Braun was saying that this increase just doesn't fit. 00:08:30 Speaker 3: It's not good. 00:08:31 Speaker 2: So AES plans to apparently, you know, some of the pillars are, This says that new developments such as AES plans to serve a Google data center in Monrovia and a planned merger with BlackRock. 00:08:48 Speaker 3: We hear about, yeah, you've heard that story. 00:08:49 Speaker 4: We have heard that, yes. 00:08:51 Speaker 2: Factored into the case since they arose after the initial request. So BlackRock and the data center and all those things rolled into one came up, interestingly, along with. 00:09:05 Speaker 3: The rate hike increase request. Rate hike request. 00:09:09 Speaker 2: So the current rate status as it stands right now, phase one, a minor initial increase took effect in July of 2026. 00:09:20 Speaker 7: Do you think that increase was because of the data centers that are coming online that they're trying to build? 00:09:27 Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to tell. 00:09:28 Speaker 4: I mean, I wonder, I thought about that. 00:09:31 Speaker 7: Is that why you're doing an increase when the economy is not the best? 00:09:35 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's hard to tell anymore. It's hard to tell. That could be. That very well could be. 00:09:40 Speaker 4: I've wondered about that. 00:09:41 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:09:42 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, a minor increase took effect in July of 2026. And then apparently phase two, a second incremental increase was previously scheduled for early 2027, just a few months away, Uh, though the rehearing could impact future adjustments or rollouts. So, you know, rehearing and reopening this case, it's not going to do anything, I guess, for the, uh, the ones that took effect already, but the ones that were planned ahead, if I'm Are going to be impacted if something happens as a result of this case being re-opened. 00:10:19 Speaker 7: So there's no way they would roll back that increase, is there? 00:10:22 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. I guess it could. 00:10:24 Speaker 4: That would be nice if they could. That would be great. 00:10:27 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:10:27 Speaker 7: Roll back that increase, especially now. 00:10:30 Speaker 9:

Yeah. 00:10:30 Speaker 2: Now, the other, I guess, semi-good news is, and this says future limits, under House Enrolled Act 1002, AES Indiana cannot file another base rate case until 2030. 00:10:42 Speaker 8: Oh. 00:10:44 Speaker 2: Those separate surcharge mechanisms may still fluctuate. 00:10:49 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:10:49 Speaker 2: I looked at my, yesterday I just took a look at my bill, my upcoming bill, and it went, it's all over the place. Last month it was like 300, 298. This month it's 210. Makes no sense. Because, Remember that sweltering heat we had? Because I guess it makes no sense. 00:11:15 Speaker 4: But your house is. 00:11:17 Speaker 2: It's still quite high for what I usually pay in the summer. 00:11:20 Speaker 3: It's still very, very high. 00:11:20 Speaker 7: Your house is energy efficient. Remember you said. 00:11:23 Speaker 4: They installed all that? 00:11:23 Speaker 9: Oh, yeah. 00:11:24 Speaker 3: That's what it was. 00:11:25 Speaker 7: So your rate should be consistently consistent. 00:11:29 Speaker 4: Yeah. Interesting. 00:11:31 Speaker 3: It's still. 00:11:32 Speaker 2: I mean, last month it tripled. This month it was double what it normally is in the summer. And that's despite the improvements, the, what do you call. 00:11:41 Speaker 3: It, the home energy assessments. 00:11:42 Speaker 4: Home energy assessment. 00:11:43 Speaker 2: And home energy assessments and improvements. And, I mean, I got stuff. I got shower heads. I got, what do you call them, surge protectors. 00:11:52 Speaker 4: Surge protectors. 00:11:53 Speaker 2: Those power strips that are supposed to be a lot more energy efficient. You know, I got that stuff. 00:12:00 Speaker 4: You have everything. 00:12:00 Speaker 2: In addition to being told how to adjust, they did a nice adjustment on my, what do you call it, your nest system. 00:12:07 Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, the nest for your. 00:12:08 Speaker 3: That they put in there. Thermostat, thermostat. 00:12:11 Speaker 2: So this month, it's still double what it should have been after the energy assessment. 00:12:16 Speaker 3: It was triple what. 00:12:18 Speaker 2: It should have been right after the energy assessment. It's still double what it should be after the energy. 00:12:23 Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't understand. 00:12:25 Speaker 4: Something's wrong. Something's wrong. 00:12:26 Speaker 3: Something's wrong. But I'd be curious to find... Now, I don't have a date as to... Do you see any. 00:12:32 Speaker 2: I don't see anything as far as the date as to when the rehearings... When this case is going to be reopened. But we just got news just this morning that they do plan to reopen and revisit that current rate hike that they were just recently granted. 00:12:49 Speaker 5: 317-480-1310. 00:12:49 Speaker 4: 317-480-1310. 00:12:51 Speaker 3: That is the number. The lines are open. 00:12:53 Speaker 2: We've got guests coming up the second hour. Wanted to let you know as well. 00:13:06 Speaker 3: We got

two calls the other day, right, about ICE? 00:13:11 Speaker 9: Yes, we did. 00:13:12 Speaker 2: Well, according to the Indianapolis Star, we're not the only ones. 00:13:16 Speaker 3: This is according to the Star. 00:13:18 Speaker 2: And this story was posted just a couple of hours ago. And it says agents with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, are apparently sweeping the city. 00:13:30 Speaker 8: Oh. 00:13:31 Speaker 3: And the headline reads. 00:13:32 Speaker 4: I think I saw something. I didn't get to read it. Go ahead. 00:13:35 Speaker 3: No, that's okay. 00:13:36 Speaker 2: The headline reads, reports of ice activity surge across Indianapolis. 00:13:43 Speaker 6: Hmm. 00:13:43 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:13:44 Speaker 7: Well, we got reports yesterday from listeners. 00:13:47 Speaker 3: We did. 00:13:47 Speaker 1: At least two. 00:13:47 Speaker 2: And I want to thank you guys because you had us up on it right away. 00:13:51 Speaker 3: That's true. 00:13:52 Speaker 2: And the star is just now getting it. We had the reports yesterday. 00:13:56 Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. 00:13:57 Speaker 2: And the star says, agents with ice are... sweeping the city, apparently. Okay, local volunteer watchdog organizations such as Indy Rapid Response have reported a surge in sightings of ICE agents and people being detained around the city since August 31st, 2026. 00:14:15 Speaker 3: As of 8 a.m. 00:14:17 Speaker 2: Today, September 2nd, Indy Rapid Response has reported ICE activity on the city's north side, near Speedway and the International Marketplace neighborhood. Indy Rapid Response also reported sightings in Lawrence, near Beach Grove, and along 38th Street from the Far East side to I-465 on the West side. 00:14:41 Speaker 7: That's the entire stretch, basically. 00:14:44 Speaker 3: That runs the gamut, doesn't. 00:14:47 Speaker 1: It? 00:14:47 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:14:47 Speaker 2: The Star Report goes on to say, videos posted on social media show agents in green vests with police and ICE on the back. pulling over pickup trucks and service vans. Pulling over pickup trucks. I was thinking they would be riding in pickup, but it says pulling over pickup trucks. Other posts show detainees being escorted out of apartment complexes on the northwest side of Indianapolis. The detainees are placed in unmarked cars, some with flashing red and blue lights. 00:15:16 Speaker 3: Some agents wear masks pulled over their noses. 00:15:21 Speaker 2: At least one business owner has closed her restaurant's Because of the surge. 00:15:26 Speaker 3: It says restaurants. 00:15:28 Speaker 2: It says Salame Galeas, who is listed as the owner of Nuestra Honduras Restaurante y Taqueria. 00:15:40 Speaker 3: My Spanish is not very good. 00:15:43 Speaker 2: At 4022 South Keystone is the secretary in the state's business directory posted on Facebook late Tuesday morning that she saw men exit a truck behind the restaurant and detain at least one person. It says, do not approach between Hannah

and Keystone. They left that truck behind at the restaurant. That's very similar to what we were told, that they left the car behind at the service station at 38th and German Church yesterday. 00:16:13 Speaker 4: Yes, the car was left. I wonder if it's still there now. 00:16:15 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:16:16 Speaker 2: If anybody knows, call in and let us know, 317-480-1310. But that fits the MO. 00:16:22 Speaker 3: It fits it. 00:16:22 Speaker 4: It does. 00:16:24 Speaker 2: You know, she's saying that they left the truck right there. They pulled him out of the truck, left the truck at the restaurant. They pulled these other two out of the car at the gas station and left the car. 00:16:34 Speaker 11: And left the car. 00:16:35 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:16:36 Speaker 8: Hmm. 00:16:38 Speaker 2: Uh, so, uh, early today she posted on Facebook that both Nuestra, Honduras, Restaurante, and Taqueria, and her other restaurant, Los Cipotes, Restaurante, at 8624 Penalton Pike, were closed for the safety of her staff and patrons. 00:16:53 Speaker 9: Hmm. 00:16:54 Speaker 3: So this is interfering with people's ability to make a living. 00:16:58 Speaker 4: Yes, it is. 00:16:59 Speaker 3: It's, it's just so, so sad. 00:17:01 Speaker 9: It is. 00:17:02 Speaker 2: Um, attempts to reach her and the restaurants were unsuccessful. 00:17:05 Speaker 3: Uh, When asked if ICE was carrying out a targeted sweep. 00:17:09 Speaker 2: In Indianapolis and for the number of arrests made in Indiana since August 31st, I guess when this first started escalating, an unidentified spokesperson for ICE Public Affairs Midwest did not outright confirm an operation. Instead, the spokesperson said agents uphold our nation's immigration laws in all 50 states seven days a week, 24 hours a day. And shared photos of five people they deemed the worst of the worst arrested in Indiana. Each of those people were booked into the Marion County Jail at some point, but not since 2025. According to online jail records, ICE has not directly responded to questions seeking clarity. 00:17:51 Speaker 3: So, yeah. 00:17:54 Speaker 2: And it goes on to say IMPD. We want to see what our IMPD confirmed. 00:17:59 Speaker 3: It is not involved. 00:18:00 Speaker 2: In any immigration and enforcement operations, IMP leaders have repeatedly said the department does not have the authority to participate. 00:18:10 Speaker 3: In ICE sweeps. Now, I don't know what that means. 00:18:14 Speaker 2: But anyway, Lawrence Police Department did not immediately respond to questions about working with ICE agents or if they were notified of any federal immigration operations. Marion County Sheriff's Office has an agreement with the federal government to house ICE detainees for up to 48 hours. The Sheriff's Office did not immediately respond to requests for comment on the number of detainees currently held and if the number of detainees increased within the past week. So, Eric, I found online, this is getting to be a thing, what you can do. If you encounter ice at your home or on your street. And the guidance that was offered there says that you should know your rights at home and your rights when you're not at home. They started with at home. And here's what it says. Do not open the door. administrative ICE forms or administrative warrants signed only by ICE officers do not grant authority to enter your home without your consent. Ask to see the warrant. Tell the officers to slide the warrant under the door or hold it up to a window. Check to see if it is signed by a court judge, not an immigration officer. So I guess that means if they have a warrant that they show you to come into your home, but it's not signed by a judge. you are not obligated to open the door. If it's signed by ICE, if it's signed by a judge, you are. 00:19:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, you are obligated. If it's signed by ICE, you are not. 00:20:02 Speaker 9: Hmm. 00:20:04 Speaker 3: It says to remain silent. You have the right to remain silent. 00:20:08 Speaker 2: You can state that you want to speak with an attorney, but you do not have to say anything. Then it says if you are in public or outdoors, do your best to remain calm. Do not run, resist, or physically fight officers on the street. Again, this is the guidance that we found online. 00:20:30 Speaker 3: If you see something and you're recording it, Record it safely. It says U.S. 00:20:35 Speaker 2: Citizens and bystanders have the right to film or record law enforcement activity from a safe distance as long as you do not interfere with their work. 00:20:47 Speaker 12: Right. 00:20:48 Speaker 2: So if an ICE agent, say, for instance, you're standing 15, 20 feet away from some activity and an ICE agent says put that down, you have the right to continue that. 00:20:58 Speaker 4: To record. 00:20:58 Speaker 10: To record. 00:21:01 Speaker 2: As long as you're not interfering and you can prove that with your video, just prove it. Uh, do not share unverified info, avoid posting unconfirmed sightings or rumors on social media. This is a toughie for a lot of people who live in that space, but make sure, be careful of what you put on social media. 00:21:20 Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely. 00:21:21 Speaker 2: And, and absolutely say that all the time. Um, I think it goes without explanation. 00:21:28 Speaker 4: I think so, too. 00:21:29 Speaker 3: As far as what you're putting on social media. 00:21:32 Speaker 2: Now, for help, we just don't tell you what to do or what not to do. There are resources, there are places that you can call for help. If you want to report an ICE sighting somewhere in central Indiana, you can call the Indy Rapid Response Hotline run by the Indiana Undocumented Youth Alliance. 00:21:54 Speaker 3: Here's the number you can call. 00:21:56 Speaker 2: And that number is 855-589-4639 to report verified ICE or unmarked law enforcement activity. And what we can do, Eric, we can put that on our website. 00:22:10 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, we can.

00:22:10 Speaker 3: PraiseIndy.com. 00:22:12 Speaker 2: Since this thing is getting to be a thing, we want you to know what to do, who to call, and how to best protect yourself in these uncertain times. 00:22:23 Speaker 3: This is unbelievable. 00:22:24 Speaker 4: It really is unbelievable. 00:22:26 Speaker 2: If you need legal help, legal help, if a family member is detained, you can contact the National Immigration Justice Center, NIJC, the National Immigration Justice, Immigrant, I'm sorry, the National Immigrant Justice Center, the detention project. And their website is immigrantjustice.org slash four dash immigrants, immigrantjustice.org slash four F O R dash immigrants. 00:22:59 Speaker 3: Uh, that's the website. 00:23:01 Speaker 2: Now the number, the NIJC detention projects number is seven, seven, three, six, seven, two, six, five, nine, nine, again, seven, seven, three, six, seven, two, six, five, nine, nine. Now that hotline is open every other Tuesday between noon and three Eastern time. So, I don't know what the rhythm is or what the pattern is, but the main thing is to know help is available. 00:23:30 Speaker 3: I know it's limited, but there's something. 00:23:33 Speaker 4: That's something. 00:23:34 Speaker 3: That's something that can help. 00:23:37 Speaker 2: And you can help by keeping track and using your citizen journalism skills, so to speak, in a safe manner and keeping track of that. So, yeah, since this is getting to be somewhat of a thing it is and they're they're they're ramping it up in indiana and there's no doubt about it uh we got the calls yesterday the star is publishing it they must have gotten a lot of calls yesterday as well from all over but eric north south east and. 00:24:08 Speaker 4: West yeah the whole all over the city all over the city so. 00:24:11 Speaker 2: Uh 317-480-1310 317-480-1310 jeff how are you hey gina eric how you doing doing well doing good. 00:24:23 Speaker 11: Well, this kind of hit home with me because one of my co-workers might have been a. 00:24:29 Speaker 10: Well, he might have got. 00:24:30 Speaker 6: Snatched up by some pipes. 00:24:32 Speaker 1: Oh, my. Oh, wow. 00:24:35 Speaker 11: About two, almost three weeks ago. 00:24:38 Speaker 3: You haven't seen him since? 00:24:39 Speaker 10: Nope. Nope, nope. 00:24:41 Speaker 11: I'm not going to name my company that I work for. I'm not going to release his name or anything like that. But, yeah, I mean, scuttled up between his co-workers like... That might have been the case because he just, you know, vanished. And, you know, I'm going to miss the guy, you know, but he's a great kid. But, yeah, yeah, this thing is real, man. 00:25:05 Speaker 8: It's hitting home. It is. 00:25:07 Speaker 10: It is. 00:25:07 Speaker 9: I mean, and I just hope. 00:25:10 Speaker 11: We don't end up like Minneapolis, you know, where we had some fatalities because some of these guys. 00:25:16 Speaker 10: Are not properly trained, if you know what I mean. 00:25:19 Speaker 11: And we had incidents in Maine and Minneapolis where people have literally lost their life. 00:25:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. 00:25:26 Speaker 11: And so, but I hate to reiterate, elections have consequences. You know, Jenna, you say it all the time, you know, when a majority of the Hispanic community voted for that clown and his policy. And call it what you will, F-A-F-O, I ain't gonna give you just an acronym, you figure out what it means. 00:25:49 Speaker 10: But I mean, I. 00:25:52 Speaker 2: Wouldn't say the majority of the Hispanic community. I don't have the numbers right here in front of me. But what it was was a concerning number in the Hispanic community. There was certainly an increase there. It wasn't a majority. 00:26:04 Speaker 10: It was no secret he was going to come after you. 00:26:07 Speaker 2: I mean, well, if if what folks are saying holds true, they thought, OK, you're talking about them, not me. 00:26:17 Speaker 10: Exactly. 00:26:18 Speaker 9: Exactly. 00:26:18 Speaker 11: No, if they don't know if you're legal or illegal, I suppose you'd be careful, too, because Ethiopians and African-Americans, you know, they favor, you know. 00:26:28 Speaker 3: Did you hear that horrifying story? I'm not meaning to interrupt you, Jeff. I'm sorry. 00:26:32 Speaker 2: The horrifying story of that Haitian, the young Haitian national. 00:26:36 Speaker 3: He was born in Haiti. 00:26:38 Speaker 2: And stepped in front of a car, stepped into traffic because he. 00:26:42 Speaker 3: Could not stand the treatment that he was getting. 00:26:45 Speaker 2: They had put a, what do you call it, a detector on his ankle, you know, an ankle bracelet, you know, those ankles to keep track of him. Great kid, high school, you know, just tragic. 00:26:57 Speaker 3: Sure, they don't care. 00:27:00 Speaker 6: Tragic. 00:27:01 Speaker 10: Yes, they don't care. 00:27:02 Speaker 3: And he said he did. 00:27:03 Speaker 2: Not want to go back to Haiti where, They are apparently even burning people alive over there. The conditions are just subhuman. And he said he would, I guess, rather die than go back to Haiti. But he said he didn't come here to harm anyone, to hurt anyone. He came here to work and earn a living and be a good person. And it was looking more and more like he wasn't going to be able to do that. And they put an ankle brace. I don't know all of the details, but. 00:27:36 Speaker 5: Enough. 00:27:37 Speaker 2: That was enough for me to see, to see, to hear and know about. 00:27:41 Speaker 3: It was just awful. 00:27:43 Speaker 10: Absolutely. 00:27:43 Speaker 11: Well, you know what? And why didn't I go from people who are overstanding their visas from Sweden, from Ireland, Poland? 00:27:55 Speaker 10: You know, I'm just saying. 00:27:58 Speaker 3: Unbelievable. 00:28:00 Speaker 10: I'm just saying. 00:28:02 Speaker 11: But it's... it's surreal and it's real. 00:28:07 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:28:07 Speaker 2: So that's why I just,

you know, the numbers, I mean, people are out there trying to combat it, trying to fight. 00:28:13 Speaker 3: It, but it's, it's just, uh, it's, it's a lot. It's a lot. 00:28:19 Speaker 10: Yep. 00:28:20 Speaker 6: Um, people get out and vote. 00:28:23 Speaker 11: You got to treat 2022 like it's 2028. 00:28:25 Speaker 10: Got to get out there. 00:28:27 Speaker 11: Put it into this nonsense. 00:28:28 Speaker 2: So I think, uh, I think a little shade tree mechanic I used to use periodically for small jobs on my car. I think he got it, too. I think he got it, too. So because nowhere to be found, which is just unfortunate. 00:28:45 Speaker 3: Let's 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310. 00:28:45 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break and then we'll go right back to the phone lines right after this break. 00:29:00 Speaker 1: Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM. 00:29:10 Speaker 2: And we are back with Community Connection talking about the increase, the growing number of reports of ICE operating aggressively throughout the Indianapolis area and probably parts of central Indiana. 00:29:26 Speaker 7: I wonder how they decided on Indianapolis. 00:29:29 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:29:30 Speaker 4: I just wonder how they came to that conclusion. 00:29:31 Speaker 2: Well, you know, they set up an office, a field office here up in Carmel, or they were supposed to be setting it up. So it's been coming. It's been coming, and we've been told. So I don't know. There is no rhyme or there's no logic to it. 00:29:49 Speaker 4: There's no logic. 00:29:50 Speaker 3: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310. Brother Ahmad, go ahead. 00:29:51 Speaker 2: How are you? 00:29:57 Speaker 6: I'm doing well, Tina. How are you doing today? 00:29:59 Speaker 3: Doing good, I think. I'm doing good. 00:30:01 Speaker 8: Good, good, good. 00:30:03 Speaker 6: So, well, kind of answers your question how they decided Indianapolis. They're probably taking it from some type of demographic records. From people getting public assistance. That's how they're generating information, and that's how they have been tracking us for years, is through the census. So that's, to me, the most logical answer. 00:30:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense. 00:30:26 Speaker 6: But the But the question I have is, I know you stated if you're approached by ICE, if you're in your home, what your rights were or what your rights are. My question is, is that how is someone to identify? And maybe you can answer this, James, or somebody that is listening to us on the radio. How do you identify an official warrant from the court that is signed from a judge? Because most likely immigrants are not going to know what that looks like. You could just stick a piece of paper up for them. to your door and say, this is a warrant. It's been signed by a judge. They can say what they want to. It doesn't mean it's true. But if anybody, if one of you two or somebody that's listening to us that has legal experience, if you wouldn't mind chiming in, how is any person, immigrant or not, recognize an official warrant coming from a court and signed by a judge. 00:31:16 Speaker 9: I appreciate y'all. 00:31:17 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:31:18 Speaker 3: And you know what? 00:31:18 Speaker 2: That is a tremendously good question, an excellent question. And you know what, Brother Mudd, I'm not so sure that I would recognize. 00:31:25 Speaker 4: That's a good question. 00:31:26 Speaker 2: I mean, would any of us recognize what an official warrant is opposed to? 00:31:30 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. 00:31:31 Speaker 2: It says here that it has to be signed by a judge, not an immigration agent. So I guess you have to look down at the signature area to see, but that is. 00:31:40 Speaker 7: But then how would you really know it's a judge? 00:31:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. How would you differentiate? 00:31:44 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's my question because... They can say anything, just like the police can say anything. Like they say, oh, you look like a suspect or you look like you fit the description or any. 00:31:55 Speaker 3: Of those things. And therein lies the problem. 00:31:57 Speaker 4: It's true. 00:31:58 Speaker 3: There it is. 00:31:59 Speaker 6: So that's where my question is, and I think the problem lies at the same time. 00:32:04 Speaker 2: You know, what I'd like to do is to get someone from one of these organizations that lists help, the folks that are offering help. If there's a local office here, the Indy Rapid Response, they've got the hotline. Let's see if we can grab somebody and bring them in here to sit down and talk with us, especially now that it's become huge here over the last 24 or 48 hours. So, yeah, that's something one of them could answer. 00:32:33 Speaker 6: Yeah, nobody's safe. So whether you're Haitian, whether you're coming from South America, the Caribbean, Mexico, anywhere. No one is safe. And I especially say this for, and I think for us as African people living in America, born in America, we look just like Haitians. We look just like Jamaicans or anyone else. So, yeah, I mean, it's an all-out war against people. So I think we just, all of us really need to be careful. 00:33:06 Speaker 8: So. 00:33:07 Speaker 3: I think we all do. 00:33:08 Speaker 2: I don't think we can say that strongly enough, how careful we really need to be. Because you're right, there's no way of differentiating us from anybody else. I guess maybe until we open our mouths. I mean, I was at a grocery store not too terribly long ago, and a lady walked up to me and was speaking Spanish and asking me some questions in Spanish. 00:33:27 Speaker 3: And I don't look Hispanic. But then again, what does Hispanic look like? 00:33:32 Speaker 8: True. 00:33:32 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 00:33:33 Speaker 4: You know? 00:33:34 Speaker 2: And for whatever reason, she thought I spoke Spanish or she thought maybe I was from a Spanish-speaking country. And I just

said, no habla espanol. Lo siento, no habla espanol. Sorry, I don't speak Spanish. And she was like, oh, okay. And I've had other friends that have been mistaken for that, too. I'm not the only one that that's happened to. I've had some friends that have been approached and people start speaking Spanish. Spanish or another language. So that is an excellent point. Another excellent point, brother. 00:34:09 Speaker 3: It just is. I mean, how do we how do we differentiate? 00:34:13 Speaker 2: And I think that that's going to be an ever increasing problem if these raids are allowed to continue as they go on, because they got to cut deeper and deeper and deeper to meet these quotas that Stephen Miller sets up, you know, each and every day. And you're not getting the worst of the worst. I mean, that poor young man. The Haitian national, you know, was born in Haiti. 00:34:33 Speaker 4: He wasn't. 00:34:34 Speaker 3: How in the world could he have been the worst of the worst? 00:34:38 Speaker 6: And it's not. It's that America and its ideology wants to, quote unquote, return this to a white nation. And it's never been that. And it's going to be an ongoing problem if all people don't stand up. 00:34:58 Speaker 3: That's the key right there. 00:35:00 Speaker 6: You know, if all people don't stand up and fight against it, it's going to be a continuous fight and battle. And just to prove your point, I was working on a construction site and I had to give a guy an orientation. He was coming in for orientation. If anyone had met this brother, you probably would have thought he was from Nigeria or Ghana or somewhere on the West Coast of Africa. But he was from Ecuador and he spoke nothing but Spanish. So I had to give his orientation in Spanish. But if you looked at it and you walked up to him, you you would have asked him, like, hey, what country in Africa are you from? But he was born and raised in Ecuador. And that's what I mean. Like, there is no look because we're all over the planet. 00:35:44 Speaker 4: And it's true. 00:35:45 Speaker 6: And even if you go to the Dominican Republic. It looked like a brother and sister from the west side of Indianapolis. 00:35:52 Speaker 3: Thank you. 00:35:52 Speaker 6: You would not know the difference. 00:35:53 Speaker 4: That's very true. Very true. 00:35:56 Speaker 6: So we have to be careful. 00:35:57 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:35:58 Speaker 2: And we run the gamut, all the colors of the rainbow. I mean, as a people, just as Americans of color run the gamut. 00:36:08 Speaker 3: So you're right. You're just so right about that. 00:36:10 Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness. 00:36:12 Speaker 2: But yeah, the Indy Rapid response, I'm going to see if they have someone local that either can come in or call in or what have you to give some guidance, because this thing sounds like it's ramping up. I mean, we had two calls yesterday and then the Star is publishing several sightings, you know, north, south, east and west. 00:36:29 Speaker 9: Yes. 00:36:30 Speaker 3: From yesterday as well. 00:36:31 Speaker 6: So, yeah. 00:36:32 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:36:33 Speaker 6: And even if we could get any of our elected officials involved. judges, any of our council people, anybody that works in politics that deals with these types of things or works within the legal system, the justice system that is listening to us, chime in. Like, offer your professional advice about what's going on here because we elected you. We paid you to do your job. And this is a part of your job to help us to identify and do things that are legally, ethically, and morally correct. 00:37:05 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 00:37:06 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 00:37:07 Speaker 3: And the call is out. And I appreciate that. I really, really do. And I had a great call. Great call. Thank you. 00:37:16 Speaker 4: All right. 00:37:17 Speaker 6: Thank you. 00:37:18 Speaker 3: Thank you, cousin. 00:37:20 Speaker 4: All right. 00:37:21 Speaker 3: Bye bye. 00:37:23 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:37:24 Speaker 3: He he makes excellent points. 00:37:25 Speaker 9: He does. 00:37:26 Speaker 4: He certainly does. How would you know all those all those good points? 00:37:28 Speaker 7: And it's like the time I mentioned, you might remember I was in Canada and saw a people that look just like us and was totally surprised when they spoke fluid French, very little English, but look just like me. 00:37:43 Speaker 4: And so you just were everywhere. 00:37:45 Speaker 3: You never know what to look. 00:37:48 Speaker 2: To you, to you and yourself and to me and myself, I just look, you know, everyday black. 00:37:53 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:37:53 Speaker 4: Same here. 00:37:54 Speaker 3: Other people don't see it. 00:37:55 Speaker 4: People don't see it that way. 00:37:57 Speaker 3: Not at all. 00:37:58 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's, and again, if anybody has more knowledge than we do, I'm going to go to work on getting these folks in here. 00:38:07 Speaker 3: I really am. Or at least on the phone. At least on the phone. That's one of the things I love about radio, the nimbleness of it. 00:38:14 Speaker 4: It is very nimble. Very nimble. 00:38:16 Speaker 2: You don't require a body every time you have to talk to someone. You can get it done over the phone. But since this is growing and coming in on us, we got to... You know, as we've learned over the last two days, we got. 00:38:32 Speaker 4: To get ready. We got to be ready for it all completely. 00:38:34 Speaker 2: And I just saw the star report right before I came on the air. Or I probably would have been able to get somebody. And if there is anybody out there with Indie Rapid Response or who has some expertise or who knows more, you can call right now. I just didn't get a chance. Sometimes these things come to our attention or, as we say, break. 00:38:54 Speaker 3: Right before we're walking down. 00:38:56 Speaker 4: That's very true. Or while we're on the air. 00:38:59 Speaker 2: Or while we're on the air. 00:39:02 Speaker

3: Yeah. 00:39:02 Speaker 2: So to Brother Ahmad's point, 317-480-1310. 317-480-1310 is the number to the show. So if you have any expertise and any guidance that you can offer right now that we could take advantage of and help give citizens more information, by all means, please feel free to give us a call and let us know. 00:39:25 Speaker 3: But again, the numbers... for. 00:39:32 Speaker 2: If you see them, if you see ICE anywhere, you want to let the officials who are working on it, rapid response, you want to let them know. 00:39:40 Speaker 3: The number is 855-589-4639. 00:39:41 Speaker 1: Again, 855-589-4639. 00:39:51 Speaker 11: 672-4639. 00:39:51 Speaker 2: Those are the numbers if you happen to see somebody. If you have a family member and need some legal help with finding out more, you can call the Detention Project. 00:40:05 Speaker 3: And that number is 773-672-6599. Again, you can call the National. 00:40:07 Speaker 2: Immigrant Justice Center Detention Project. 00:40:19 Speaker 3: The N-I-J-C. N-I-J-C. And their number is 773-672-6599. 773-672-6599. 00:40:29 Speaker 2: If you know of a family member that has been, or if you do happen to have a family member that's been detained. It says that that's a hotline, the N-I-J-C Detention Project Hotline. It's open every other Tuesday between noon and three. Eastern Time, between noon and 3 Eastern Time. 00:40:52 Speaker 3: Let's go back to the phone lines. Tim, you have a comment on ICE for us? Go ahead. Hello? 00:41:01 Speaker 9: Yes, can you hear me? 00:41:03 Speaker 3: Yes, I can hear you. 00:41:04 Speaker 9: Okay. First thing, this is not a targeted hotspot for people of violence. 00:41:11 Speaker 10: And this and that. 00:41:13 Speaker 9: I'm hearing right now that they are pulling I've dealt with a lot of landscapers, and they are pulling them out of their trucks and company equipment on their way to job sites. Things like that are happening. So, no, this is not a targeted, violent roundup of people. 00:41:32 Speaker 3: What do you mean it's not a target? It is targeted because that's who they're— Well, yes, it is, but it's. 00:41:37 Speaker 9: Not they're saying the worst of the worst or— You know, the violent criminals or whatever. They are running around here following people right now and targeting them because of their race right now. 00:41:51 Speaker 3: I mean, I've got a video. I'm not understanding what you're saying. But anyway, go ahead. 00:41:56 Speaker 9: Well, what I'm saying is, I mean, I've got a video right now of them pulling a landscaping company out, which I don't want to name, pulling them out of their trucks and the company equipment, pulling a trailer and pretty much arresting them and leaving the truck and trailer on the side of the road. these people are probably on the way to a job site. 00:42:14 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:42:14 Speaker 9: Or coming from a job site. They usually, and I deal with them a lot, you know, being here, you know, what I do, but they're usually four, five, six deep in these little trucks, groups of them. And, you know, here's a video right now that's out right now that's targeted them less than probably three, four hours ago. And they pretty much put them out of the truck, their company truck. 00:42:38 Speaker 6: Okay. 00:42:39 Speaker 3: You said that, but you said it's not a targeted roundup. What are you calling it? 00:42:43 Speaker 9: I'm saying that it's for violent people. They are considered violent. 00:42:48 Speaker 2: Well, that's been from day one is what they say they have been doing, and that's not the case. 00:42:52 Speaker 8: Right. 00:42:53 Speaker 9: And the second thing is probably your attorney friends should be able to clarify a little legitimacy on judges' signatures and what signatures look like. 00:43:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, we didn't get a chance to really work the phones this morning. I mean, this came down when we found out we didn't get a chance. But, yeah, we can get some folks, absolutely. 00:43:12 Speaker 9: Yeah, because I'd definitely like to get some clarity on that because we know judges are just like doctors. You can't probably read after they had the signature that they put on these warrants or whatever. But, yeah, it definitely reached out a lot of clarity. And I just wanted to say that, comment on that, because, like I said, this is not what they're saying, oh, violent people. This is people that are just out doing their jobs and working every day. 00:43:38 Speaker 10: Well, yeah. 00:43:38 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:43:39 Speaker 9: And just really been targeted for a reason. So I'm seeing it. I'm hearing it. 00:43:45 Speaker 3: Most people know it, really. They know. They should know if they don't. 00:43:48 Speaker 6: Yes, ma'am. 00:43:49 Speaker 3: All right. Thank you, too. 00:43:49 Speaker 9: You guys have a good day. 00:43:50 Speaker 10: All right. 00:43:51 Speaker 5: You, too. 00:43:51 Speaker 9: And stay cool. Thank you. 00:43:52 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. 00:43:53 Speaker 6: Bye-bye. 00:43:54 Speaker 3: Dave, go ahead. How are you? 00:43:55 Speaker 6: Hi, Tina. How are you? 00:43:58 Speaker 4: I'm well. Thank you. 00:43:58 Speaker 12: I just wanted to make a point, piggyback off a young sister earlier this week where she said the Bible is the most powerful book. And I wanted to be that sister. I was a caller from earlier this week sometimes. And I wanted to be there because there's nothing new under the sun, like the scripture says. And remember years ago when they would arrest black men, they would have them in the jail cell and they would let the mobs come and get them. And the mobs would do what they want with the brothers, these innocent black people who were locked up in these jail cells years ago. And they could still be doing that now. Because, like you were saying about the ICE people identifying themselves, and then a caller said, well, it's going to be tough for, really, it's tough for anyone to know if someone's a real agent, a

real police officer. 00:44:51 Speaker 3: Especially if you don't speak the language. 00:44:54 Speaker 12: Right. And also, can you remember how it's been in the recent history, people have been posing as police officers and getting away with it. And they were finding out someone was raping women, posing as an officer. I don't know how long ago that was, but the thing is, you know, now we have a lot of black folks. It's never stopped, the lynching of black people. It's always been going on. It's just social media is letting us know and making us more aware of it now that it's still going on. And they always say, Oh, it's no, what's that thing they say, Peter? No foul play. 00:45:31 Speaker 4: It was suicide. 00:45:32 Speaker 6: Looks like it was suicide. 00:45:34 Speaker 12: Everybody knows black people, so-called black folks, who are the Lord's chosen people, along with our Latino brothers and sisters. We don't lynch ourselves. They know what's going on. And I honestly think it could be people posing as ICE agents or just the normal ICE agents, normal officers who are lynching us. and working with other clowns and horrible, disgusting people to lynch us. And it's just happening over and over again. I think it's the people who say they are law enforcement and supposed to be upholding the law, they're the ones who are doing this physical lynching to us. And the other thugs who are in the office and things like that are making the rules, and basically we're all working together to destroy us. 00:46:20 Speaker 4: As a people. 00:46:21 Speaker 12: And I'd like to thank you and Eric for taking my call today, and I want to say shalom to you. Oh, one more thing, Tina. 00:46:28 Speaker 9: Okay. 00:46:28 Speaker 12: If we get the Israelite School of Universal Practical Knowledge on the show, they could break down a lot of the things that are being talked about on today's show. Fantastic show today. 00:46:39 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you. 00:46:40 Speaker 12: Absolutely fantastic. God bless both of you. 00:46:42 Speaker 10: All righty. 00:46:42 Speaker 3: Thank you. 00:46:43 Speaker 10: Thank you. 00:46:43 Speaker 3: Appreciate it, Dave. 00:46:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a certainty. We're going to get somebody in here to give us some guidance, Eric. 00:46:53 Speaker 4: Oh, we certainly need to have that. That's for sure. 00:46:56 Speaker 2: But if you have a family member, the NIJC Detention Project, 773-672-6599. 00:47:00 Speaker 3: Again, 773-672-6599. 00:47:01 Speaker 2: It's open every other Tuesday between noon and three Eastern time. If you just want to report a sighting and let those who. 00:47:09 Speaker 4: Are tracking these sightings, let them know. 00:47:22 Speaker 2: That number, the Indy Rapid Response Hotline, the Indy Rapid Response Hotline is 855-589-4639, 855-589-4639 to report. And so, you know, one of the things that might be helpful as well, and since I, you know, I guess this kind of, you know, shades the line, I guess straddles the line, if you will, between criminal and civil. But the Center Township Trustee's Office, on the regular, offers free legal help to citizens. And they've got a free legal clinic coming up, free legal help, September 22nd, close to the end of this month. It's a walk-in clinic, and you get to speak to a lawyer free of charge. Who to a lawyer free of charge? It's at the Center Township Trustee's Office. That's at 300 East Fall Creek Parkway, North Drive. Their number, 317-920-0300. It's going to be from 5 until 7 p.m. 00:48:30 Speaker 3: On the 22nd of September. 00:48:32 Speaker 2: They're going to take care of family law, landlord-tenant issues, bankruptcy, employment, disability, consumer rights, and other civil and legal matters. Criminal matters will not be included, but again, this immigration thing kind of straddles the line. Just wanted to let you know about that that's coming up, and we can certainly remind you of that the closer we get to the 22nd of September. 00:48:57 Speaker 3: William, go ahead. How are you? 00:48:58 Speaker 10: How are you doing, Ms. Tina? 00:49:01 Speaker 3: Doing well, thank you. 00:49:03 Speaker 8: All right. 00:49:06 Speaker 10: I noticed a couple of the fellows were talking about how we had, they almost had a wrath. But if we forget the past, if we forget the past and what has happened in the past, we are doomed to repeat all of the actions that have been placed against us in the past. 00:49:35 Speaker 8: Mm-hmm. 00:49:36 Speaker 10: I noticed that we're talking about what was being done in Haiti. At one time, Haiti was one of the most advanced nations in the world. But sometimes we think that just because we can do what we want to do, that we can destroy each other. When we started destroying each other, One of the things that happened is we are the individual in one of the first ones to be destroyed if we are destroying each other. If we don't get together, if we don't get together and consider ourselves necessary in society and start listening to the definitions that are being placed on us by people on our side. We are the most inspired people in the world today. And that's because we try to go along to get along. And that is not necessary. We don't have to do that. We have the education. We have the abilities. And we have the inspiration to do things. And the only thing we have to do is learn how Me and before us have sat down, the Washingtons and the Kings and the Coleman Youngs and the Burns. You know, we got to learn how they did the thing, Bundys. We got to learn how they did the thing and the Bunches. And we got to learn how they did the thing. 00:51:26 Speaker 3: But, you know, yeah, and it's a good point you make, William. And if we don't learn it, we're going to live it. 00:51:33 Speaker 2: You know, kind of like you said, you know, you may not necessarily if we haven't learned it and and we have not done as good a job, I think, as we could have done in terms of teaching younger, you know, the younger

generation about the history. I think we can all take take some responsibility for that. But, you know, it's never too late. I mean, you can start any time and we can continue. trying to educate, because history is repeating itself, whether we want to see it and admit to it or not. We're already reliving some of the history that we thought was behind us. 00:52:11 Speaker 3: We're reliving it every day. 00:52:12 Speaker 8: True. 00:52:12 Speaker 10: Every day. 00:52:13 Speaker 3: Every day. 00:52:14 Speaker 2: And so maybe explaining what we're going through, we can put that in a historical context that, yeah, this is pretty much like what it was and what we thought we had overcome. But, hey, it's been done before and it can be done again. 00:52:30 Speaker 10: One more thing, Ms. Taylor. Our Caucasian brothers, they should observe what has happened in the last four years. 00:52:42 Speaker 8: Who? 00:52:42 Speaker 7: Our Caucasian brothers. 00:52:44 Speaker 3: Oh, our Caucasian. Okay. 00:52:48 Speaker 10: The color of their skin is no longer a bulwark, a barrier for the people to attack them. That woman that was shot in the face, good. The one that was shot in the back seven times, he turned over and shot him in the chest. They were the one that was snatching them out of the car. They are Caucasians as far as the definition goes. 00:53:18 Speaker 3: They're being treated a lot like us, just like us. 00:53:21 Speaker 10: They've been treated just like us. We know what is going on because For all of these years, we have been going through the same thing. 00:53:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, we know. All right, William. Good words. Thank you. 00:53:35 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. And absolutely true. Absolutely true. We got to do better for ourselves. And again, part of doing better is making sure those behind us know how to do better. 00:53:47 Speaker 7: Most definitely have to teach them how. 00:53:50 Speaker 3: And the why. 00:53:51 Speaker 7: So that history, we don't repeat it. So we can learn from it. 00:53:54 Speaker 3: We're reliving it. 00:53:55 Speaker 7: We're reliving it, but not repeating it, repeating it ourselves and do something to change it. 00:54:00 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:54:01 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:54:02 Speaker 2: It really is time that we can talk about it, analyze it, turn it upside down, inside out or what have you. But there comes a point in time when it has to just be boots on the ground and And action time. And that means at the polls, marches like last Friday on. 00:54:19 Speaker 3: Washington, and a whole lot more. There's more. 00:54:22 Speaker 2: There's a whole lot more that we can all do as citizens to take back some of this that has been taken away from us. 00:54:29 Speaker 3: So a lot of work to do. We know what it is now. We talked about it. And like I said, analyzed it. We know what it is. Now it's time to get to work. 00:54:37 Speaker 4: Most definitely. 00:54:38 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. 00:54:42 Speaker 1: WTLC AM, W236 CR,

Indianapolis. Broadcasting from the Praise Indy, IndyGo Studios. IndyGo, boldly moving Indy forward. Discussing the issues that matter to you and keeping you informed with what's happening in and around Indy. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby on Praise. 00:55:04 Speaker 4: AM 1310, 95.1 FM. 00:55:07 Speaker 2: And we're back for our second hour. And Eric, we have a guest in studio. 00:55:12 Speaker 3: And I tell you what, don't we just love it when we get the swag bags? 00:55:16 Speaker 4: Oh, we do. Oh, that's the cool. That's a cool thing, the swag bags. 00:55:21 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, swag bags. 00:55:22 Speaker 8: I love it. 00:55:22 Speaker 10: We love getting that. 00:55:23 Speaker 4: Those are nice. 00:55:23 Speaker 3: Yes, I can't wait to dig into mine. 00:55:26 Speaker 2: I'm looking at it now, but if I get into it, I'm going to make a mess right here on the counter. But anyway, our first guest, our next guest, our guest for this hour, Brian Carter. He is the president of the Black Men's Group Indie, the Black Men's Group Indie president, and he's here to tell us about their semi-annual youth tour training day event. 00:55:52 Speaker 3: So first of all, Mr. Carter, welcome. Thank you for being here with us. 00:55:55 Speaker 4: Thank you for all that you do. 00:55:56 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your kindness. That's very nice to bring Eric and myself. 00:56:01 Speaker 3: Swag day. We love it. 00:56:02 Speaker 5: Yes. 00:56:03 Speaker 4: Thank you, sir. 00:56:05 Speaker 2: So tell us about who you are and what it is that you do. 00:56:09 Speaker 4: Well, my name is Brian Carter, and my background is social work. So I've been a social worker for... 35 years here in the community. Okay. And I've done everything from working in the juvenile detention centers to working with Prevent Child Abuse Indiana. And I'm currently working for Fathers and Family. I'm sure you heard of them. 00:56:30 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Under Larry Smith. 00:56:32 Speaker 4: That's right. Excellent. 00:56:34 Speaker 3: Excellent brother. 00:56:34 Speaker 4: Doing some great things, working with the men, empowering them and everything. And it falls right in line with Black Men's Group. And so Black Men's Group got its start 11 years ago. And there was a gentleman, he's an advocate by the name of Ron Chisholm with the People's Institute. And us black men that were working in the service areas of working with youth and everything, we had a workshop that was about undoing racism. And we were so sparked by that workshop that it was like, hey, let's form together and get this black men group going on. So I know, you know, judge Gaither and, um, Greg Ellis is, um, um, uh, old Starworth, you know, with, um, working with youth and everything. So they got his spearheaded and we got behind it and somehow they threw me in as president. And it was like, let's make an impact on the city. So the pillar pillars that we, uh, work with to empower the community, um, is we stand

on undoing racism. We believe that we empower the community by empowering men and then working with youth, encouraging, empowering youth, celebrating our elders, and then finally receiving those that are returning to our community. So those from recovery, those from institutions of incarceration. So that's what we've been doing for the last 11 years. 00:58:09 Speaker 3: That's a pretty broad umbrella. 00:58:10 Speaker 4: Yeah. It's a lot. 00:58:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. 00:58:14 Speaker 4: And so that's why our hands are out just saying to men, if you care about your community and you love your family, then you're a member of the black men's group, believe it or not. So there's no secret handshake, no huge amount of money that you have to pay to be involved with us. It's the goodwill that you have in your heart and putting boots to the ground to doing this, so that's what this, this is one of our major pillar events, this men tour, and it's just M-E-N slash T-O-U-R, and it's a training day for young people, for young men, okay, and the ages of 10 to 18, and so what we do is put them in a platform where a seasoned man are working with them and teaching soft skills because everybody didn't have a dad in the house that taught them how to iron. Everybody didn't have an uncle or even a grandfather that took the time to teach them some basic skills. We call them soft skills, but they also are entrepreneurial skills. you know, skill sets that could get them going. So we are so excited about this event on September 12th, Saturday, September 12th. It's going to be at the International District Community Center. It's the old Aldi's, if you remember, off of 34th and Lafayette Road. So kind of commercial drive. 00:59:53 Speaker 3: But it's... There's an... Is that one. 00:59:57 Speaker 4: It used to be in Aldi's. 00:59:59 Speaker 6: Oh, okay. 00:59:59 Speaker 3: I know which one you're talking about. South of 38th Street. 01:00:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a Chase Bank over there. And remember the old Kmart? It's all in that same area. They are partnering with us, and it's an awesome facility. Plenty of rooms are giving us the whole building and the outside to be able to do this to service up to 100 young men. And it's not just young black men. It's young men, period. So we are reaching out and saying, please bring your young men. They can register when they get there at 10 o'clock. Yes. 01:00:40 Speaker 3: No, go ahead. 01:00:41 Speaker 4: So we're just excited. We have some awesome sponsors. Stop the Violence Indiana. And Anthony Beverly does a great job with them. Family and community resources. You might have heard of family and community partners, Dr. Dwight Holland. New Boy. Have you heard of New Boy Mentors? They are just the prize of this Indianapolis community. So they're going to be there in the ACRES group and from fathers, ATAP counseling, you name it. Just a lot of great sponsors wanting to see that. our young people succeed. And we believe

that this is anti-violence. This is something that we're teaching them. If you put tools in their hand, then maybe they won't have guns in their hands. You know, if you give them skills, then they won't be out doing unskillful things or things that will wind them in to some adult situations. We want them to be kids. 01:01:52 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:01:53 Speaker 2: So tell us about the need that's being met that you continue to meet going on 11 years now. 01:01:58 Speaker 4: 11 years. Yeah. 01:02:00 Speaker 3: What's the need? 01:02:01 Speaker 4: Well, it's a need of connection. And so they need to be able to see and know that somebody in the community cares about them. We know our neighborhoods are different now. We could drive and pull into our driveway and never know our next door neighbor. And a lot of times that's when we where we used to learn how to mow the lawn. That's how we used to learn how to do different things, you know, that were productive and then that were also helping the community. Well, life is so fast-paced. And a lot of times parents, they have to work, you know. And a lot of times, believe it or not, grandparents aren't around as much anymore. Or they're still busy on the grind. And unfortunately, some grand people are still in the club. and still growing up, you know? And it's like, we want to just say, hey, there are men that care about you, care about your safety, care about your education, care about, you know, your future as citizens in the community. They're already citizens in the community. So, talking about the young people, so it's just like, let's do what preserves our community. 01:03:21 Speaker 3: So, You've been doing this, this is the 11th year. You obviously have had some success stories. 01:03:27 Speaker 9: Yeah. 01:03:28 Speaker 3: I'd love to hear about one or two. Can you share those with our listeners? 01:03:30 Speaker 4: Listen, we have had young men that have, for the first time, learned how to tie ties. And then we would give them a tie. And it's just like, go with it. And they brag about, hey, I was at this event where I learned how to tie a tie. And, you know, I know about posture and presentation. You know, we even teach them elevator conversations. 01:03:56 Speaker 3: Oh, your elevator pitch. Yeah, yeah. 30-second elevator pitch. 01:04:00 Speaker 4: So this is all the things that sometimes you get at school in speech class or whatever, but, hey, we wanted to have a community look to it, a jacket, you know. And these connections last. Sometimes they will meet. one of our brothers, and say, hey, can I stay in touch with you? Can I reach out? Or they can align themselves with somebody like a new boy, you know, and just say, hey, you know, this changed. I've had people come to me and say, I remember 10 years ago when. 01:04:37 Speaker 3: I did it, you know, on the east. 01:04:39 Speaker 4: Side or on the west side, and it was just really great. We had parents thank us. Mothers who come and we encourage

the mothers to come watch. We want you to feel safe that we're with your children and they can just observe from the side. And then we also have a award that we give in the name of one of the brothers that was really dear to this project. His name was Al Mitchell. He passed away about four years ago. And so in his name, we give away a, um, gift card and kind of give a salutation to the kids that are doing some stuff in the community, that are making good grades, you know, or at least rising up from where they used to be. Improvement. So we are just so excited. And I'd love to tell you about some of the stations. 01:05:36 Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. 01:05:37 Speaker 4: So some of the stations, we're going to have a give back station. That's where the young men will construct. a homeless packet that will be given to the homeless, you know, with a little message of encouragement. We're going to have a t-shirt making station. I do want to sign some t-shirts, not the big stuff, but, you know, but just teach these young men how to, once again, flip that into an entrepreneurial. New Boy will be having physical fitness, teaching them how to When they're frustrated, you know, how to have an outlet of physical fitness as opposed to something destructive. Positive interaction with the police or officers. We're going to simulate the young men being pulled over by a police officer, what they should and should not do. How they should conduct themselves if a police officer rolls. 01:06:38 Speaker 6: Up on them. 01:06:39 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 01:06:40 Speaker 3: Basically, how to get home. 01:06:41 Speaker 4: Oh, please, yes. And these are the things that are to be taught by, you know, parents. But a lot of times they're not doing it. We're going to have a car maintenance station. That means looking under the hood, knowing what's what, what, what, and changing tires. And we're going to have a drone station. We're going to have a vape education station. You know, vaping is really serious. And ironing. Clothing care, we're also going to have a mental health relaxation station so that they can calm themselves down. So one of the brothers comes every year for the last 11 years, Raymond Gray, and teaches table etiquette. And a lot of times boys get overlooked with some of that stuff, you know, but they need to know if they're going to be, you know, sports person or definitely in a business realm. Which glass is yours? What are these extra forks and stuff? 01:07:46 Speaker 3: I just move to the right and work on the outside. 01:07:48 Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh, yes. Even how to sit a young lady that they may be dating at the table and have conversation. So Raymond Gray. 01:07:57 Speaker 3: Does a great job. 01:08:00 Speaker 4: Altogether, it's going to be about 15 stations, inside, outside. We've had people come with their big rig trucks. pull up and let the kids see what it looks like in there, what the gears are all about. Just us boys, we love our toys. So we've

had somebody who came with a dump truck, somebody came with like, you know, the, the Bobcat lifter and everything. And for my first time, I actually got it, got the lift stuff. And it was like, so cool. 01:08:35 Speaker 3: Lift them up. 01:08:35 Speaker 4: So I know, I know people, There might be the ladies that are saying, well, what about us? What about us? Listen, we are a community together. So whatever, we're just putting the men in the front because for so long we haven't been in the front. And we're appreciating all the support. So this is a free event. The kids, every young... person, every young man gets a $ 10 gift card and also lunch. You can't beat that. So we are so excited about it and just appreciate support. people getting on our website, blackmensgroup.com, getting on our Facebook page, snag the flyer off and send it. And parents, I know it's 2026 and we give our children a lot of choices. But if your child is sitting at home in their pajamas, on their phone, playing video games when they could be somewhere productive, where they could be making connections. This is where you need to make them come. And I promise you, they'll enjoy it at the end. They'll say, in their way, they'll probably say, it was all right. 01:09:59 Speaker 2: I have a five-year-old that says that right now. How'd you like your new school? 01:10:03 Speaker 5: It's all right. 01:10:04 Speaker 9: It's all right. 01:10:06 Speaker 2: Our guest is Brian Carter. He is the Black Men's Group Indie President. We are talking about the Indie Men Tour event, Men Tour Training Day event, the Indie Men Tour Training Day event coming up Saturday, September 12th. And I want to circle back to, you know, when you said ladies, we're talking about the men, and help our listeners to understand why this collective is so intentional on the demographic that you mentioned here, which is men, young men, ages 10 to 18. Why is that demographic so targeted and so important? 01:10:48 Speaker 4: We are getting dropped. We know they have that statistic and it's definitely found true that by the time a young man hits third grade, it's decided whether, you know, if they're not into the math and sciences and testing, you know, well, that there are prisons being built for them. And I believe that. And I believe there has to be an intervention. There has to be, once again, men. There's books that are out there like Things My Father Never Taught Me. 01:11:23 Speaker 3: Is that Obama's? 01:11:25 Speaker 4: You know what? It's older than that. 01:11:26 Speaker 3: It's older than that. 01:11:27 Speaker 4: It's older than that. 01:11:29 Speaker 3: Something else of my father. That was his book. 01:11:31 Speaker 4: And they have one for me. young men and young ladies, you know? Just a sidebar, we had a booth, we've had at least three rounds where we've had women come and teach the young men how women wanna be addressed, how to even treat that young girl. I know when I was third or fourth grade, we were pulling hair, we were just doing all kinds of stuff that was just so rude. Now, we got better in Muscovy because of the fact that they got cute, you know, later on. And it was just like, ooh, you know. But we need to know there's a lot of young men that are the quote unquote man in the house. And so, therefore, before they go kissing on a girl, they need to know how to treat mom. They need to know how to treat their sister, who's the princess. Mom's the queen. The sister is the princess. And be nice. protective in a positive way you know so these interactions these purposeful interactive stations are all about grooming our men young men to be the men that they should be the protectors of the community the good citizens of the city And. 01:12:52 Speaker 3: It's coming up the 12th of September? 01:12:54 Speaker 4: It's the 12th. 01:12:55 Speaker 3: Okay, all the details. 01:12:56 Speaker 9: Yes. 01:12:57 Speaker 3: What day, place, time, everything. 01:12:59 Speaker 4: Saturday the 12th. It will be from the hours of 10 o'clock to 2. We'll probably let them go a little earlier than that. But 10 o'clock to 2 is a free event for young men between the ages of 10 and 18. It will be at the International District Community Center, which is 3540 Central Commercial Boulevard, Commercial Drive. And it's absolutely free. No pre-registration is necessary for the kids. But for volunteers, of course, you know, we want to make sure that everybody's safe so they can go on our Web page and get information on how to register online. And come. And we've got something, like I say, for the men. We've got them volunteering to be able to tour the kids. There'll be tour guides or station helps, all that kind of great stuff. And ladies, we want your presence there. There's going to be vendor opportunities. So if somebody wants to be a vendor and they're doing things. We need donations. Yes, we do. We need donations like giveaways that young men would like. 01:14:14 Speaker 3: The community. 01:14:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, no Monopoly boards. So stuff like that. $ 10 gift cards if they want to give one for fast food or Walmart or Target or wherever because every young man is going to get that. If they want to nominate a young man who they feel like is exemplary in the community, We want to bless them with a $ 25 gift card, you know, for their exemplary work. So they have to kind of do that ahead of time. Let me know what's going on. And, I mean. 01:14:49 Speaker 2: But the other thing I want to let everyone know is that this is not just a one-off. 01:14:54 Speaker 3: This is not once a year. 01:14:56 Speaker 4: No. 01:14:57 Speaker 2: This is a sustained initiative that happens twice a year. 01:15:01 Speaker 4: Twice a year. 01:15:02 Speaker 9: Okay. 01:15:02 Speaker 4: And we like to hit the sides of town. So we did. one in March that was on the east side of town, okay? And it was sponsored by Cafe, and so we were over at the Boys and Girls Club over there on 38th and Post.

That was a great event. We are on the west side now. 01:15:21 Speaker 3: West side? 01:15:21 Speaker 4: So we need, and tell me if this is true. They say west side doesn't travel east, and east side doesn't like to travel west. 01:15:31 Speaker 3: I've never heard that. 01:15:33 Speaker 4: Neither have I. Well, it's a hood thing. 01:15:35 Speaker 3: It's a hood thing. 01:15:37 Speaker 4: And I want to break that. I want people from the east side to come to this west side event. But I really want an outpour of people coming from the west side. So I've been hitting schools. I've been hitting some of the barbershops, community places and everything with flyers to really get the word out. But ladies, this is where I need your help the most. tell that boy ahead of time, you going somewhere. You know what I'm saying? Put him in the car, you know what I'm saying? 01:16:09 Speaker 3: And bring him. 01:16:10 Speaker 4: And we're not going to have same groups where a 10-year-old and an 18-year-old is touring together because we understand, you know, 10-year-old doesn't understand an 18-year-old and an 18-year-old doesn't want to be bothered with a 10-year-old. So what we're going to do is break it down into different, you know, 10 and 11-year-olds. Makes sense. Yeah, do it like that because... We just want this to be a snowball. We've had people who have even said, can I do this in my town? We had some people who were helping out with a basic tool station. It was a father and son. And the father was from the East Coast. And he was like, can I borrow this idea? And it was like, it's not even mine. It's just something that the black men group was passionate about doing. So please take it. 01:16:59 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:17:00 Speaker 3: Take it and run with it, yeah. 01:17:01 Speaker 4: We wanted to do this in the juvenile center. We wanted to do this. 01:17:04 Speaker 12: You know. 01:17:04 Speaker 3: It's not a matter of proprietary, right? It's a matter of helping. 01:17:07 Speaker 4: We got to stop territory tripping. 01:17:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. We really, really do. 01:17:11 Speaker 4: It's bad. It's bad, and the kids are picking up on it. And that's why we don't come together, and that's why stuff happens. Ryan, who was your inspiration? Oh, my dad. My dad was a freedom rider. So, you know, his. 01:17:28 Speaker 4: Civil activity and everything like that. I've been in Indianapolis since 83, so there's a lot of people. Andrew J. Brown, you know, just a lot of people who I've seen doing great things in the community. And like I said, Judge Gaither being the brain trust of this, him and Greg Ellis. I mean, they're my heroes, you know, so I appreciate that. 01:17:54 Speaker 3: Where are you from? 01:17:55 Speaker 4: Brooklyn, New York, and then lived in Charleston, West Virginia for a while. 01:17:58 Speaker 3: Okay, okay. 01:17:59 Speaker 4: So you can't make me a Pacer fan. I'm sorry. Yeah, we tried that. 01:18:03 Speaker 7: You tried that already? 01:18:04 Speaker 4: That's only downfall right there. It's my year. 01:18:06 Speaker 3: What about the Colts? 01:18:08 Speaker 10: No, no, no, no. 01:18:09 Speaker 4: The Giants and Knicks. 01:18:10 Speaker 7: He needs special prayer on that one. 01:18:13 Speaker 3: What about the Jets? 01:18:14 Speaker 9: No, no, no. 01:18:15 Speaker 4: See, you can't pick Jets and Giants together. It's... Giants or Jets, Yankees or Mets. 01:18:21 Speaker 3: Okay, I got it. It's kind of like where I'm from. It's either Louisville or UK. 01:18:24 Speaker 4: There you go. 01:18:26 Speaker 3: UofL or University of Kentucky. So there it is. There it is. So thank you so much. 01:18:30 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. 01:18:31 Speaker 2: And to everybody, all of the partners and everybody that's coming together, because we cannot have enough people doing this work enough. 01:18:39 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:18:40 Speaker 2: And the fact that it's free of charge, no obligation, no registration, just show up and come out and let folks pour into you. 01:18:49 Speaker 3: Young man. 01:18:50 Speaker 2: Men between the ages of 10 and 18, this is coming up September 12th, the Indie Men Tour Training Day event. 01:18:58 Speaker 3: The address? 01:18:59 Speaker 4: The address is 3540 Commercial Drive. That's 34th and Lafayette Road, y'all, back behind the Chase Bank. 01:19:09 Speaker 3: Make plans to be. 01:19:11 Speaker 4: It's free. We love free. 01:19:12 Speaker 3: Eric, F-R-E-E, we love it, love it, love it. Oh, favorite four-letter word. Thank you so much for all you do. Thank you for having me. 01:19:20 Speaker 2: Thank you for letting us know about it, and hopefully you're going to have a great turnout. 01:19:23 Speaker 4: It's going to be great. 01:19:25 Speaker 3: Indeed. We'll be right back with more right after this. 01:19:33 Speaker 1: Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM. 01:19:43 Speaker 3: And we are back. What a refreshing, refreshing segment. It's so good. So good. 01:19:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree. I enjoyed that. Really enjoyed it. 01:19:53 Speaker 2: He's a great guy, and what I like about it, you know, not that there's anything against people that have something once a year or against organizations because that's not what it's about, but I can honestly say one of the things I do like about it is that it is sustained, and it is. 01:20:09 Speaker 3: Every six months, they're retooling, retooling. They're keeping it going. 01:20:12 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely. 01:20:13 Speaker 2: So to keep it as fresh as possible. So we love that. 01:20:17 Speaker 4: It's so good. 01:20:18 Speaker 2: And I really appreciate him and all of the partners he's pulled together and the work that they're going to be doing and continue to do with our young men ages 10 to 18. 01:20:26 Speaker 7: It's so needed, and that's such a good thing, such a good thing to do. 01:20:30 Speaker 4: And 11 years. 01:20:31

Speaker 9: Wow. 01:20:32 Speaker 4: Consistently 11 years. 01:20:33 Speaker 3: Almost a dozen. 01:20:34 Speaker 4: Almost a dozen, yeah. 01:20:35 Speaker 3: It's an exception. Recap, we've talked about a lot of things. 01:20:40 Speaker 2: It looks like that IURC utility rate hike is going to be revisited. 01:20:44 Speaker 3: More hearings, that's good news. Reopened, more hearings. 01:20:48 Speaker 4: Yes, it is. 01:20:49 Speaker 2: The conversation that started yesterday about ICE being at a gas station out at 38th and German Church has apparently ballooned to where even the Star has posted ice sightings from, I guess, people that have been letting them know about ice raids all over town. And so we talked about that. And, of course, we talked about the Andy Mentor Training Day coming up the 12th of September. 01:21:18 Speaker 3: Totally free. 01:21:19 Speaker 2: Lunch is included. No registration required. Just bring your young man out there between the ages of 10 and 18 and let him experience what the experience is and what the experience is all about. 01:21:33 Speaker 3: We can't have too many of these. 01:21:35 Speaker 6: No. 01:21:35 Speaker 3: We want to take care of our young folks. We need that. Indeed. 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310. Pastor Willoughby, go ahead. How are you? 01:21:46 Speaker 9: Yes, Tina. 01:21:47 Speaker 8: Thank you for taking my call. And kudos to the young man that's working with the young group because that's the same focus everywhere. for a 10-point coalition, Pastor Harrison. Absolutely. I am on that board. But you're going to bring somebody in to talk about ICE. I have one serious concern, because when I left the filling station with the car at the pump, And then I went over to the other filling station and saw about four abandoned vehicles. And people are telling me that people have been running and all of this, and they abandoned vehicles on 465 all over the interstate. Can you ask the person from the agency you're trying to get in? Who's responsible? Because some of these people are arrested, and two or three days later, they find out they're citizens or they're here legally, and they're released three days later. But their car has been impounded. Who's responsible for that cost to get that vehicle back? Why are they— why should they be tasked— You know, it costs you $ 200 or $ 300 to get your vehicle back. Shouldn't ICE pay for that or somebody? I can't see the individual person being responsible for them leaving their car when they made them leave their vehicle. I. 01:23:13 Speaker 2: That's a good question, and I have no idea where that liability or responsibility lies. 01:23:22 Speaker 3: I mean, it's all really, really murky. 01:23:24 Speaker 2: And frankly, Pastor Willoughby or Reverend Willoughby, I don't know that that had even been thought through, if you want to be truthful about it. These raids seem really haphazard, really just, you know, unorganized. 01:23:38 Speaker 3: And as the old saying goes, somebody didn't think that one through. 01:23:41 Speaker 4: Sounds like it. 01:23:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does sound like that was just one of the details that they didn't care about or seem to want to take care of. 01:23:49 Speaker 3: I don't know. 01:23:51 Speaker 1: You're right. 01:23:51 Speaker 3: It should be, you know, ICE should be responsible for the vehicles, I guess. 01:23:58 Speaker 2: But ICE is the last agency that's going to take responsibility for any vehicles because they operate under the pretense that these people are the worst of the worst and they're horrible and We're not going to pay. 01:24:10 Speaker 3: Why should we pay for their, you know, that's what ICE would say. That's what ICE would say. 01:24:15 Speaker 8: But the police, the IMPD will be, or somebody like that, like you said, will tow their cars away and they go to the impound downtown where they will lease their vehicle for free. I mean, the mayor, somebody needs to get involved and look into that. Because, I mean, I personally saw that. I went over there and talked to the people that were working there and said, please, don't tow these cars. cars away let them at least sneak send somebody you know maybe they know somebody that knows somebody and they can sneak in here tonight and get the vehicle or something but don't tow their cars away and i i don't know what happened i'm gonna go by there because this one's around the corner i'm gonna see if that maroon car is still there but i asked them don't not to tow their cars away because they're gonna have to pay to. 01:25:02 Speaker 3: Get it yeah they're gonna have to pay You know, I don't know. 01:25:06 Speaker 2: And you bring up a good point. And I just simply don't know who you're right as to who should be. But when you know, when we say ICE should be, I am all but certain ICE won't be responsible. 01:25:20 Speaker 8: No, I think they're not going. 01:25:22 Speaker 6: To do it. 01:25:22 Speaker 10: Donald Trump. 01:25:23 Speaker 8: Yeah, they're not going to do it. 01:25:24 Speaker 9: That's what that's what it's going to take. 01:25:26 Speaker 8: Somebody like the mayor or it's going to take the police chief, somebody to tell this person, let that person have his car. 01:25:33 Speaker 2: What it's going to take is probably a class action lawsuit of some sort or some kind of court action to get that situation straightened out in terms of what happens to the property of those that, especially those that have been found to be citizens and have been exonerated. Exactly. And, you know, are not in violation of any kind of policy that they should have. 01:25:59 Speaker 8: You know, a lot of people, maybe some of these attorneys like I mean, you know, Nathaniel Williams, Bohannon, Nathaniel Lee will do it pro bono. They need somebody like that looking out for them. 01:26:15 Speaker 3: Do what pro bono? 01:26:17 Speaker 6: You mean? 01:26:17 Speaker 8: Go get their cars, at least go get their vehicles. 01:26:23

Speaker 3: Well, pro bono is legal services for free. 01:26:25 Speaker 2: I don't know that it's paying a legal bill. 01:26:31 Speaker 9: You can't even go to work here. 01:26:34 Speaker 3: I agree. 01:26:35 Speaker 2: I'm just as I mean, I understand your frustration and I feel it as well. 01:26:38 Speaker 3: And it's wrong. Everything that you're saying is absolutely correct. It is absolutely wrong. 01:26:44 Speaker 2: But I I will see what I can get from our legal community and see what they can you know what they say to me. What I'm thinking is it sounds like there's going to have to be some legal action that guarantees that if, you know, if these people and maybe the state legislature, when they when they convene in January for the long budgetary session, maybe they can come up with something. 01:27:09 Speaker 4: I don't know. 01:27:09 Speaker 3: But it is something that needs to be put on the plate. It needs to be fair. You know, it needs to be in the forefront. 01:27:15 Speaker 8: If you ask them for three days, you're going to lose your job. 01:27:18 Speaker 6: You see all this stuff? 01:27:19 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And all good points. All good points. All good points. We'll get somebody. We'll ask. 01:27:31 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:27:31 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:27:32 Speaker 9: Yeah. 01:27:32 Speaker 3: People what? 01:27:33 Speaker 9: Yeah. 01:27:33 Speaker 10: You, you, you the one, you the one, you can get it done. 01:27:36 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:27:37 Speaker 3: Well, I'll do, I'll do my level best. How's that? What was that? They used to say, do the best you can. 01:27:47 Speaker 2: But I know those are, those are absolutely pertinent and, and pressing questions. I just can't, can't imagine that they, they, you know, lives are ruined. 01:27:57 Speaker 9: They are. 01:27:58 Speaker 2: They ruined in a lot more ways than a tow bill. You know, when he's, you know, you're talking about losing jobs and, you know, folks not wanting to fool with them. 01:28:08 Speaker 4: It's just hard. 01:28:09 Speaker 3: It's intimidation. It's horrible. It is absolutely horrible. 01:28:13 Speaker 2: But I think Indianapolis, if these if this increase that the from from what we got yesterday to what the star posted today. I fear to, you know, I'm not, what do we think is going to be the numbers tomorrow? 01:28:27 Speaker 3: I think it's going to have expanded. It's just awful. 01:28:34 Speaker 9: Get ready for the polls, y'all. 01:28:35 Speaker 8: Get ready for the polls. They're going to be there. 01:28:40 Speaker 10: There. 01:28:40 Speaker 9: Get ready. 01:28:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we got Common Cause here, and we have the executive director of Common Cause Indiana, and they have been very successful along with the ACLU of Indiana and some other organizations with the NAACP, the Urban League, if everybody bands together. 01:28:57 Speaker 3: And puts up a wall of resistance, I think we're going to be okay. 01:29:01 Speaker 2: But we've got

to be out there. We can't talk about it or analyze it anymore. We've got to be out there doing it, doing the work. Because they're coming, they're coming, and they're coming for us. 01:29:13 Speaker 3: Coming for us. 01:29:13 Speaker 2: All right, Reverend Willoughby, thank you so much. Thank you, thank you, thank you. 01:29:17 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310 is the number to the show. 01:29:26 Speaker 2: Wanted to let you know let some folks know this Circle City Classic is coming up at the end of this month September 26th it'll be a high school football showdown but the battle of the HBCU bands will continue so there will be an HBCU battle of the bands it'll be between three HBCUs, Kentucky State, Miles College, and Talladega College, okay? Those three will compete for the best of the best during Circle City Classic, Lucas Oil Stadium, September 26th, 5 o'clock. A lot of y'all said, well, what about the Battle of the Bands? 01:30:09 Speaker 3: They brought it back? 01:30:11 Speaker 2: It is high school football, but there will still be HBCU College bands. 01:30:16 Speaker 3: So there you go. You got the rundown. 317-480-1310. 317-480-1310. San, go ahead. 01:30:26 Speaker 1: How are you? 01:30:27 Speaker 5: Hey, I'm doing fine. Listen, I was listening to this and didn't get everything, but if people are being stopped on the street just because of what they look like, I think the premise of our Constitution and our country is you're innocent until proven guilty. Not guilty because of what you look like, until we can get as much as we can out of you and throw you in jail or whatever. I think there should be a huge class action lawsuit because these people are trying to go to work, trying to take care of their family, go to the store, all of that. And just, you know, there was a time when I was in college and stuff in the 60s and 70s, you know, you'd be stopped driving while black. 01:31:17 Speaker 10: I mean, that happened to me. 01:31:18 Speaker 3: What's happened to me? 01:31:21 Speaker 5: Okay, I asked my son, I said, has that ever happened to you? 01:31:25 Speaker 6: He said, yeah. 01:31:28 Speaker 5: You know, why am I being stopped? And driving wide blocks from the time I was in college to, you know, coming home from work. You know, what are you doing out here? I'm going home. 01:31:42 Speaker 8: Where? 01:31:43 Speaker 5: From work. In fact, one time, To make a long story short, one time where I was working, it was, I won't say what I was doing, but it was professional. But I was on an evening team, and policemen stopped me, followed me and stopped me two blocks away from my house and asked me, what was I doing? I said, I'm leaving my job. And I said, call this number and ask for me, and they'll tell you what's going on. I said, call the number. He called and he said, you're a what? I won't say what I was, what I retired as, but he said, really? I said, yeah. Yeah, they said, yeah. 01:32:26 Speaker 9: Yeah. 01:32:27 Speaker 6: So, you know, the. 01:32:29 Speaker 5: Premise is you're innocent until proven guilty, except if you're a person of color, it doesn't work. So if these people have compounded these people's cards, hardworking people trying to take care of their families, there should be a class action lawsuit. 01:32:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I cannot help but think that one is in the works already, if not. 01:32:54 Speaker 5: Okay. 01:32:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, one has to be in the works. This whole thing is just a hot mess. 01:33:01 Speaker 3: It just is. 01:33:03 Speaker 5: And if we don't be careful, black folk, we look at, oh, look at what they're doing to the Mexicans. 01:33:08 Speaker 10: Well, hello? What color are you? 01:33:13 Speaker 3: Well, I've already shared the story. 01:33:16 Speaker 2: I'm not a Mexican or I'm not as, you know, from a Spanish speaking country, but I've had people come up to me and speaking Spanish thinking I am or that I do speak. 01:33:25 Speaker 4: I've had people come and. 01:33:26 Speaker 10: Do that to me too. 01:33:27 Speaker 5: And I was, my hair napped as hell. 01:33:34 Speaker 3: Okay. 01:33:34 Speaker 5: I got curly-haired kids. 01:33:37 Speaker 10: Yeah. 01:33:38 Speaker 5: Like my daughter that has neo-jazz radio. And the people come up to her and say, are you adopted? No, this is mine. Are you Asian? And Kim would say, no, this is my mother. 01:33:50 Speaker 10: Did you adopt her? 01:33:51 Speaker 5: No, I had this Negro. 01:33:55 Speaker 3: We come in all colors of the rainbow. That's just us. 01:33:59 Speaker 4: We are black. 01:34:00 Speaker 5: We're mixed with everything. We're Indian, Asian, Black, whatever. And I'm Black and I'm proud of that dude. 01:34:09 Speaker 3: James Brown. James Brown. Say it loud. 01:34:14 Speaker 5: At the time, the word Black was, oh, no, no, no, no. And we, you know, but there should be a class action lawsuit. 01:34:24 Speaker 3: Let's hope there will be. And more than one. 01:34:26 Speaker 10: I hope there will. 01:34:27 Speaker 3: More than one. 01:34:28 Speaker 5: Yeah, more than one. 01:34:29 Speaker 3: More than one. 01:34:29 Speaker 12: Take care, you guys. 01:34:31 Speaker 9: All right. 01:34:31 Speaker 3: Thank you, San. Appreciate it. 01:34:33 Speaker 2: And speaking of lawmakers and talking to lawmakers, you know, they started that town hall tour at the beginning of the summer where members in the Indiana Black Legislative Caucus were going to various cities in the state of Indiana holding town halls. The final one is coming up Saturday, September 12th. That'll be next Saturday, right? Saturday, September 12th. Guess where it's going to be? 01:35:01 Speaker 4: Is it going to be here? No, it won't be here. It's going to be. 01:35:04 Speaker 3: Hammond, Indiana. 01:35:05 Speaker 4: Oh, Hammond. 01:35:06 Speaker 3: Northwest Indiana. 01:35:09 Speaker 4: Yes. 01:35:09 Speaker 8: Okay. 01:35:09 Speaker 3: I can't think of it. I mean, that's a, they, they start. 01:35:13

Speaker 4: Yes. 01:35:13 Speaker 9: Yeah. 01:35:14 Speaker 3: Look at everything that they've just gone through. 01:35:16 Speaker 4: What? 01:35:17 Speaker 2: Don't you think they're going to have an earful for the lawmakers there? 01:35:20 Speaker 4: Well, you know, they are. 01:35:22 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:35:22 Speaker 3: Go ahead. 01:35:22 Speaker 4: They may even tour. The area. 01:35:24 Speaker 3: Well, if they haven't already. 01:35:25 Speaker 4: Maybe I'm sure that you probably. 01:35:27 Speaker 2: I'm sure all the representatives from that region have been up there and toured. 01:35:31 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:35:32 Speaker 3: Mike Braun toured the area. He just didn't go to Gary. 01:35:35 Speaker 4: Well, yeah. Yeah. 01:35:37 Speaker 3: He toured. 01:35:38 Speaker 2: But anyway, this one is coming up Saturday, September 12th. Hammond Sports Comp. 01:35:43 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. The Hammond Sportsplex and Community Center. 01:35:46 Speaker 2: 6630 Indianapolis Boulevard in Hammond, and it's from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. Central Time, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. Central Time. They say every year we come away from these town hall meetings with plans for new legislation and thoughts on how to better serve the people of Indiana. 01:36:05 Speaker 3: This from State Rep. Earl Harris Jr. 01:36:07 Speaker 2: Democrat from East Chicago, and he is the chair of the Indiana Black Legislative Caucus, or the IBLC. He said these are invaluable opportunities to have your voices heard And help to make some changes in our state that help everyone. Every town hall is free and open to the public. And I can't think of a more appropriate place for them to wrap up the town hall tour. And I can't think of a more appropriate topic, you know, in ways that they can make things better for, you know, not only Northwest Indiana, but the entire state. 01:36:40 Speaker 3: So that couldn't be more appropriate. It could not be more appropriate. 01:36:44 Speaker 4: Hammond. Hammond. 01:36:46 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Hammond, Gary, Maryville. 01:36:48 Speaker 4: Lake County. Lake County. That area was devastated. 01:36:52 Speaker 7: Gary was devastated. 01:36:54 Speaker 2: Which Porter County? Anyway, Lake County, of course. But there's some that we call the Donut. 01:37:00 Speaker 3: Counties around Lake. 01:37:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they'll all be there. And they will be listening and they will be there with bells on. And by then, by the 12th, I'm sure that there's a whole lot. That folks that have lived through what is the unimaginable and the unthinkable and are still living that nightmare. 01:37:20 Speaker 7: Still, because the cleanup is going to take so long. 01:37:23 Speaker 3: Have you seen those pictures? 01:37:24 Speaker 8: I have. 01:37:25 Speaker 4: It's going to take months. 01:37:27 Speaker 7: If not years. 01:37:29 Speaker 4: Exactly. 01:37:29 Speaker 7: Because most hurricanes that have hit certain parts of Florida, some of those places are still in disrepair 15 years later. 01:37:36 Speaker 2: And look at how long it took to rebuild that. From Hurricane Katrina. 01:37:42 Speaker 4: Yes. 01:37:42 Speaker 9: Yes. 01:37:43 Speaker 3: Look at how long. 01:37:44 Speaker 4: Long time. Long, long time. Long time. 01:37:46 Speaker 3: And this one was pretty catastrophic. 01:37:48 Speaker 1: It was. 01:37:49 Speaker 4: 90 mile an hour winds. 01:37:50 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:37:51 Speaker 4: 99 mile an hour winds. 01:37:52 Speaker 2: There's some houses that look like, it just looked like somebody just folded them in half. 01:37:56 Speaker 4: Exactly. 01:37:57 Speaker 5: Exactly. 01:37:58 Speaker 3: And then tree limbs, huge, big, mature trees. 01:38:01 Speaker 4: From the root system. 01:38:02 Speaker 3: Yeah. Uprooted and just falling all over everything. It's just a. 01:38:06 Speaker 2: So I think that they'll be able to help lawmakers understand better how aid, how all kinds of things can get there to them quicker. They probably will ask lawmakers to crack down on these utilities that have monopolies. 01:38:23 Speaker 3: There's not a. 01:38:24 Speaker 2: Whole, whole lot that we can do as citizens, but there is a whole, whole lot we can do as citizens. and that is to put pressure on our lawmakers to put pressure on these monopolies as best you can. 01:38:36 Speaker 4: Tina, before we go, I think the Weather Service, they were listening. They heard you. They've extended the heat advisory. They heard you. It's Friday. 01:38:44 Speaker 7: It's going to last now from now until 8 o'clock Friday evening. 01:38:49 Speaker 3: Okay, another 24 hours. 01:38:50 Speaker 7: Another 24 hours, and that chance of rain is shrinking. 95 the high on Friday, it looks like. 01:38:56 Speaker 4: Okay, okay. So there we are. 01:38:58 Speaker 3: I don't know where I heard that. 01:39:02 Speaker 4: They were listening. It's like, Tina's right. Let's do it. Let's extend it. So they've extended it. 01:39:06 Speaker 3: Oh, it wasn't me. But anyway. 01:39:07 Speaker 2: Well, Eric, that's all the time we have for right now. Please remember our Help in the Heartland campaign to help our Hoosier neighbors as they recover from the devastating pandemic. flooding and storms that pass through August 11th and 12th. Go to praiseindy.com to find out more. FEMA assistance is now available. That, too, is on praiseindy.com. 01:39:30 Speaker 3: As always, thank you for listening. Our website is, again, praiseindy.com. Willie Moore Jr. 01:39:35 Speaker 2: On the radio is up next. Please continue to be safe, be well, and stay informed. Check on everybody with this heat. Check on everybody with the heat. We'll be back tomorrow. And Eric, I say until tomorrow. 01:39:49 Speaker 4: Until tomorrow. 01:39:51 Speaker 3: This is Community Connection.