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updating? I'm not good at updating. Once I do it, it's like it's done. 00:05:20 Speaker 2: Yeah. That made me like insane. What else I'm going. 00:05:24 Speaker 1: To a party tonight and I was deciding what to bring, and I ended up bringing up I bought a pen, which is why if you listened to the show yesterday and I think we posted a photo. 00:05:35 Speaker 2: I bought this red pen. 00:05:36 Speaker 1: Because all of a sudden, I was like really interested in pens. I'm sort of curious. 00:05:41 Speaker 2: What peoples go We'll do it. 00:05:43 Speaker 1: I'll pose this as a question, okay, and maybe we'll talk about it on Sunday Quickie with Heather. 00:05:48 Speaker 2: That was fun, wasn't it? I had It was such a good. 00:05:50 Speaker 1: Time, and I liked asking the questions beforehand because that way I felt like we were like talking to each. 00:05:56 Speaker 2: Other, which was great anyway. 00:05:57 Speaker 1: So I'm curious as to what people's go to hostess gifts are. My friend Sarah is really really good at that. She's the one that bought me the frouther which I thought was like the most amazing hostess gift. The pen that I'm giving isn't a hostess gift. Actually, it's a gift for someone, an achievement someone made. 00:06:17 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 00:06:18 Speaker 1: I'm curious because I'm always looking for new ideas. I don't like giving candles. Sometimes I'll give skincare, but I don't always like giving something that we make because even though I love this stuff. I mean, I'm happy to give that stuff because I love our products and everything, but I don't want people to feel like, oh, you know, she went into her stock closet and pulled out some stuff. You know what I'm saying, Like I wanted to be more of a gift. But I do like giving that stuff sometimes. And I do like giving some pieces from my clothing line too, because I just, you know, poured my soul into that whole line. 00:06:51 Speaker 2: So I do like that. But in general, what are the go to gifts? Candles? 00:06:54 Speaker 4: For me? 00:06:55 Speaker 2: No thank you, unless it's something very very unique. 00:06:58 Speaker 1: Someone bought us this candle, got it for Terry, a patient, and it was cool. It was more of a you know, it's a candle, but it's more of a design piece. It's a very very large, heavy stone candle thing that it was beautiful and really interesting that I liked. But like a regular candle, No thanks, don't really need a candle, have enough candles. 00:07:20 Speaker 2: So what are you giving? What are you giving these days? 00:07:23 Speaker 4: People? 00:07:23 Speaker 2: I'd love to know let me know. 00:07:26 Speaker 1: I did get asked, how often does Terry take the kids out on his own? Now that the older kid, how often does he take the kids out. 00:07:34 Speaker 2: On his own? He doesn't. 00:07:35 Speaker 1: That never happens. Is that terrible? He just that's just not his thing. He has good intentions to do that. Oh well, maybe that's not true. 00:07:42

Speaker 2: He will take Cat out, not lately, but he used to take Cat. 00:07:46 Speaker 1: Out for like a lone dinners. And he works out sometimes with Nicky. Wait, let me think if I'm actually telling the truth there. Yeah, he definitely works out with Nicky sometimes, and he likes to he out with Niki, but I wouldn't say they go out together. Nikki will go out with me and Terry, like the three of us will hang out a lot, but I don't really seed the two of them like going off alone. But you know, honestly, Terry, I don't want to rag on him for that because he just really doesn't have that much time. You know, Terry works a lot. So speaking of working a lot, he's exhausted. And we're going to We got invited to the track on Saturday, and so you know our friends, the Bells, they have horses that run, they have race horses. 00:08:30 Speaker 2: And everything. 00:08:31 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go to the track. But I finaggled his schedule so that we can stay over the night before because I was like, he is just so cranky and I just need him to rest and sleep and get away a little bit. 00:08:44 Speaker 2: So I'm very, very excited about that. 00:08:47 Speaker 1: And now that Lindsay and I have this whole conversation about vacations and everything, my mind was racing all night and I'm now I'm thinking, Okay, we're gonna go here. 00:08:57 Speaker 2: We're gonna go here, We're gonna go here. So now I'm getting out. 00:09:00 Speaker 1: The yellow legal pad and I am going to figure it all out. 00:09:06 Speaker 2: So there's that. 00:09:07 Speaker 1: And then I think we started talking on the Sunday Quikie with Heather about my clothes for this season, and I am going to have Samora, my stylist. I'm gonna have Samara come on and we're going to talk about fashion and all that kind of stuff. 00:09:20 Speaker 2: So we'll definitely do that. I'd love to also. 00:09:22 Speaker 1: Hear what you guys want to hear more of, so I'm going to do another question to answer things, so you guys can submit all of your questions, and I really am going to try to get to all of them, but a lot of them, you guys like, have similar vibes some of the questions. So I think I got to a lot of them, but I will try to get to more of them, I promise, and I'm so excited. So, speaking of fashion, Sam Sobora is on the show today. So Sam, I've known Sam for a few years. We've crosspaths several times. He's so talented and he's a celebrity stylist and he also does this thing on Wednesdays on Excess Hollywood. So if he sounds familiar to you, that's why. But he's got great tips and he's super cool. So I'm really really excited that he's here to take care of all of our fashion needs for the fall. So he's coming up, So stay tuned because Sam Sibora is coming up. 00:10:12 Speaker 3: Next. You're listening to Heather du Bro's World. 00:10:21 Speaker 1: Please welcome celebrity stilas host and fashion expert Sam Sibora. 00:10:25 Speaker 4: Hi, Hi, Hi, Heather. How are you. 00:10:28 Speaker 2: It's so good to see you. 00:10:29 Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't seen you since, Like I think I saw you in Minnesota. 00:10:33 Speaker 5: Yes, in the hallways of our shopping adventures in Minnesota. At Shop HQ, and we never get any quality time because I feel like I'm always on right after you and Terry or vice versa, corect So I'm super excited to be with you today. 00:10:46 Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm very, very excited you're here. 00:10:49 Speaker 1: So much going on in the world of fashion and everything. But you know, i'd love to go back and I and by the way, I love that you do Samir Wiley. I'm such a huge fan. I'm like a Handmaid's Tale addict. 00:11:04 Speaker 5: Just oh, it's too real for all of us. But yeah, she is awesome and so much fun. We'll talk about that, Okay, so a little bit later. She's a great, great client. 00:11:12 Speaker 2: Oh it's so exciting. 00:11:13 Speaker 1: I want to kind of go backwards because you know, a lot of people don't realize that you started off at fred Ziegel. And for people that don't know fred Siegel, like, okay, so I love boutiques and I want to talk to you about that too. But like fred Siegel, when I moved from New York to California, it was like the. 00:11:32 Speaker 4: Boutique, Oh my gosh. 00:11:35 Speaker 2: The place to go, I mean major. 00:11:38 Speaker 1: I was almost like mildly intimidated to walk in there. Tell me about Fred Siegel back in the day. 00:11:44 Speaker 5: God, that is such a huge part of my career and my backstory. So basically, I moved to La also kind of from the Midwest, Ranford College, and I was working in retail and actually Janis Dickinson and I think Leah Remini. I was working at the mall okay, and they were like, what are you doing here? You need to Fred Siegel. I'm like, what's fred Siegel? I had heard it on on clue lists, right, that was my only kind of thing about fred Siegel. So I was like, Okay, let me go to fred Siegel. I apply, I get hired, and all of a sudden, I'm in the center of the fashion universe. So this is like the nineties, so this is the heyday of the Sea. My clients were like Carl Lagerfeld, Valentino, Giancarla Jametti, Brad Pitt, Jennifer Aniston. I mean it was like the who's who's who's who of every part of the fashion world, and you know, the celebrity world in Hollywood, and here I was this like twenty two year old kid from the Midwest, and I didn't know better than to just be myself and I kind of created my own little business there and and and became the personal shopper for the store and literally got to work with every single celebrity that I've ever wanted to meet or didn't know I wanted to meet in my life. 00:12:46 Speaker 4: And also to be there was oh, go ahead, So. 00:12:49 Speaker 3: What did it? 00:12:49 Speaker 2: What does that look like? 00:12:51 Speaker 1: I mean, because you know, I've done different kinds of things over my career where I have stylists come over, they posted it. 00:12:57 Speaker 2: Did the celebrities come in the in

those days? 00:13:01 Speaker 4: Yes, yes they did. 00:13:03 Speaker 5: And the way that I got Jennifer Andison actually was like she was she had come in, she was shopping, she was looking at the table and I walked up to her and I was. 00:13:09 Speaker 4: Like do you have those? And She's like no, and I'm like come with me. Like that was it. 00:13:13 Speaker 5: That was the change, because I needed to kind of glom onto these people and bring them and get them into a fitting room. And once I did that, I could kind of work my magic. So it started as relationships that I built from them coming into the store. Sarah Jessica Parker would come into the store, and basically everyone who came in when they were on a trip. The first stop after Lax was like, come to fred Siegel, go Tomorrow's cafe, eat pasta, and then come and spend tens of thousands of dollars on clothes. And so I kind of grab these clients. Then I was like, you know what, if you want, we can send to you. You don't have to come into the store. And that's how I kind of created these relationships. So I would sometimes go to their homes and set up like basically a store within their home. Sometimes I would interact with them personally and privately at home, and sometimes I would do it by. 00:13:54 Speaker 4: Appointment at the store. So it was a blast. 00:13:56 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it was so much fun and sobody people and so many stories, and it was a cool It was a cool time that doesn't really exist anymore. As you know, how they're here in La it's not the same. There's nothing like that anymore. 00:14:09 Speaker 1: No, And honestly, really anywhere I was talking, I think a couple of weeks ago, I can't remember. I was talking to someone from New York and I was saying, like, Jeffrey's right, it was the most phenomenal. 00:14:20 Speaker 2: It was a department store, but it was like almost like. 00:14:22 Speaker 1: A boutique and the old Bendals, the original Bendals. 00:14:26 Speaker 2: And like, I just think the art. 00:14:28 Speaker 1: Of the boutique is dead because even when you know, in those days, you'd go into these stores and they had special things, like things you didn't see everywhere. 00:14:36 Speaker 2: And now even if you go to like a. 00:14:38 Speaker 1: Great boutique, it's going to be a curated version of alc and this and that and not like, for example, one boutique that I loved, Elise Walker. 00:14:49 Speaker 5: Yep, amazing, and she has such good taste and that still has a little bit of that flavor. 00:14:53 Speaker 4: Like Elise is still old school. 00:14:56 Speaker 3: She is. 00:14:56 Speaker 1: And what's funny is I got connected. Do you know Susan Bender. 00:15:00 Speaker 4: Susan Bender, I know the name, Okay. 00:15:02 Speaker 1: Susan Bender NYC. I think is the name of her. Okay, her her fashion line. But she sells things at Elise Walker and she's I have these two short, cropped little leather jackets from her that are like the sickest things, and I got them.

And as it turns out, long story short, Susan and I have mutual friends. And so she had messaged me. She had messaged me, oh, you look so cute in my jacket or maybe I tagged or something whatever, and so we started talking and then turns out we have mutual friends and now I'm actually like working with her directly. But there's no way I would have found Susan Bender if it wasn't for a lase Walker's store. And how she, you know, found Susan so I. 00:15:44 Speaker 4: So that's the same. 00:15:46 Speaker 5: The same is like when when I was at fred Sigel, we launched Marshalla in the United States, we launched Treets van Note in the United States. Rap Simmons he came to the store, and so what's cool about that is like all the birth of all these like major brands that are now kind of like second natured all of us. They were really exclusive and really special back in that day. So I actually was trained basically on some of the most beautiful clothes in the world and on putting it on some of the most beautiful people in the world, but also like on everyday people like and that's how I kind of got to do what I do on TV because I had kind of run the gamut with all the different types of bodies and people and budgets and stuff like that. So it was a great It was like cutting my teeth and learning everything I need to know about fashion and kind of dressing people. 00:16:27 Speaker 4: It was a good time. 00:16:29 Speaker 3: This is Heather new Bro's world. 00:16:36 Speaker 2: So what do you guys do during the summer? Do you hang out at the beach with friends? Do you chill at the pool? 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Get your cooler ready and stock up on Hazza Probiotic Seltzer by using code world for twenty percent off your order at Drinkhazza dot com. That's code World for twenty percent off at drink Huzzah dot com. 00:17:47 Speaker 3: Now back to Heatherdobros World. 00:17:53 Speaker 1: And I kind of want to dive into a little bit about dressing people and sort of the notion of you know, kind of like my mom always used to say, like where what looks well on you? 00:18:04 Speaker 3: Right? 00:18:04 Speaker 2: Not necessarily what's trendy? 00:18:07 Speaker 3: Right? 00:18:07 Speaker 2: So, but how do you do that? 00:18:10 Speaker 1: How do you sort of organize the trends and make it fit for everyone or different ages. 00:18:15 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I feel like there are certain clients that want the trends right they they're scrolling on Instagram, They're looking at Haley Bieber and they just literally want to wear what she's wearing right after she wears it. To me, it's a little not uncreative. I think you take inspo from that. But having said that, I'm boring. I'm classic, I love clean, I love beautiful, and I started right right, so like I'm like the most like for myself, I'm like Einstein, like I'll wear a black shirt every day. 00:18:40 Speaker 4: I don't care. 00:18:41 Speaker 5: It's not about me, it's about the client. So I kind of put my focus on them. And you know, classic is somebody that I kind of grew up with. My mom was pretty chic and classic and cool, and so for me, I will always air to that side. But I have to try and make myself shake it up for the client, so I can't get trapped in the whole of what I want them to look like. I have to what they want, what I think they should look like, and a little bit of my kind of expertise. So it's a real balance, and I feel like part of the skill of styling is kind of like visually forecasting. Like when I work with a client that I've never met before, I'll study them a little bit, I'll see what they're doing. But when I'm pulling clothes, I have to see them in that look in my head before I grab it. So that's how I kind of do it. And I always say, you have like three strikes with a client. If you don't get them by the third strike, girl, you're out. Like you you have to impress, and so for me, it was really it's a visual thing for me, and I kind of picture my client in this and I can really see them and I study them, especially for the red carpet. I do that too, where I'm like, can I see them in this gown? I like put them in the clothes in my head. Maybe it's a little crazy after this line. 00:19:46 Speaker 1: You know, I love that, you know, for me, I I have a stylist, but I buy a lot of my own clothes, right, but she does something for me which I love, which is she will add things that I never like. I have this really beautiful Victoria Beckham dress and it's it's a very neutral, like mauvy kind of color. It's not really mauve, but like a like a dusty pink rose, let's call it, right, And and she put the this bright blue clutch and rock studs Valentino rock studs matching and the matching clutch and they're blue. But the the you know, like like sort of the piping on the rock studs is that same dusty rose. And it was super cool and it went and this is years ago. Was the first thing that popped in my head. I never would have done that. 00:20:38 Speaker 2: That's what I. 00:20:39 Speaker 1: Like, so so to help people, like, what can people do that are listening? They don't have a silast, they're not

celebrities, but like I know, like Nordstrom always has personal shoppers, They're like, what are your tips for getting help? 00:20:53 Speaker 5: So the first thing I tell people all the time when you shop, there are a couple of different things. So first and foremost, you got to try things that are outside of your comfort zone and outside of your closet and outside of your your kind of purviews. So what I always say is you have to have somebody who knows nothing about your rules, your habits, your sense of style. So as a stylist, I look at you and I see the best things about you. I see what I want to do with you. I don't have a preconceived notion of what you will and will not do. So I always say to my clients when I grab something off the hanger and I'm like, oh, this is cute tradidis and they're like, ah, I'd never wear that. I'm like, that's the first thing I make them try on, and the person they buy and they and after that they're like, oh, okay, well, it's like going to a doctor. You don't go to your husband and you tell him how to do his job right. You go to the doctor, you trust his expertise, you give it a shot, you listen, And so I feel like that's what you have fee the stylists now. Failing having a stylist, you bring your best friend who is opinionated and who is like your tough love friend, right who has probably always secretly wanted to kind of shake up your look. Or you find a personal shopper or the salesperson at the store that you can kind of latch onto, because there are some really talented, really great people in stores all over the country that are dying to help. And I think we're so used to being like, no, I don't want your help, instead of maybe lending yourself to those people because they're around those clothes all day long. They've tried that Alec dress on seventeen people. They know what it looks like, they know what's cute with it, And so give those creative people a chance instead of kind of shunning them at the store. And I always say, try the things that you do, not the first thing you say no to try it on, because good style happens when you make a mistake when you try something out of the box, when you go against your grain. We're all programmed from our mothers and grandmothers and with rules. And I like, Heather, you can't wear this color. It doesn't leave it up, so it doesn't look. 00:22:37 Speaker 4: But you look. 00:22:38 Speaker 2: You look like you've been in the pool too long when you were color exactly. 00:22:41 Speaker 4: So that's what I like to say. It's all about opposites. 00:22:44 Speaker 5: Try the opposite of what you think you should do and see what happens. That's how you kind of create a snowball and get out of your comfort zone. 00:22:50 Speaker 2: Okay, what about accessories? 00:22:51 Speaker 1: Because I remember I think it was the movie La Story. 00:22:57 Speaker 2: Who is the actors? Oh my god, it's going to drive me insane. 00:22:59 Speaker 5: Sarahjessica Park was the store working with Steve know that his wife Steve Martin. 00:23:05 Speaker 4: I don't remember. That's actually Mary Lou Henner? 00:23:07 Speaker 2: Was it someone looking up? Was it Mary Lou Henner? 00:23:11 Speaker 4: I've worked with Mary Lou. 00:23:11 Speaker 5: That's larious. 00:23:12 Speaker 4: She's I think it might. 00:23:13 Speaker 2: Have been I think it might have been Mary. 00:23:14 Speaker 1: Look, but anyway, she does this thing where she puts all of her clothes on and. 00:23:18 Speaker 2: She goes and then right before I walk out, I just. 00:23:20 Speaker 1: Turn around and the first thing I see I take off, take it off. But now, like if you listen to Rachel, Zoe or you or Brad or anyone, you go. 00:23:30 Speaker 2: No add more. 00:23:31 Speaker 4: I am an ad more person. 00:23:33 Speaker 5: I think that's all bys like great coqush fanel like look in the mirror, take something off. I feel like people that have great style and a cool style are rolling the dice, are are piling on accessories, are being unexpected, are doing unexpected color combinations, are mixed matching prints. I feel like that's when you have something interesting. And that's why I say try something scary, like try something out of the box, make mistakes, play with your style. We have stopped playing dress up, we have stopped being fun when it comes. 00:23:58 Speaker 4: To getting dressed. 00:23:59 Speaker 5: We buy what we think, we like what we you know, we buy our in our kind of box. And I feel like those people. That's why when you bring in a stylists, it's like, oh, it's like opening the doors in the windows. So yeah, I'm in that camp of put more on and layer it up and add that third piece, and I feel like that's way more fun than take it somebody else. 00:24:18 Speaker 1: I think it's scary for people. And I think that, you know, clothes can be expensive. But what I like is I like something that's collected looking, meaning you know, in any design, whether it's homes or fashion or anything. Because anyone can walk in and buy the model house with the model furniture. It's already done right there. 00:24:37 Speaker 2: It is. 00:24:38 Speaker 1: Anyone could walk into, you know, a catoure, you know, like a Chanel store and look at the mannequin and go yeah, I'll take that right right. But I like to mix, like I like to pull things from Zara and Chanelle and intermix and saying like and just have like all little things come together. But even like me and I think I'm pretty confident in my fashion, I'll look and be like, do I have too many different logos going on? 00:25:02 Speaker 2: Like what's going on here? Like you know, and I get nervous about. 00:25:06 Speaker 3: Stuff like that. 00:25:07 Speaker 4: Well, I love fast fashion. I'm a huge Sara fan. 00:25:09 Speaker 5: It's always like a default if you need something that's like inexpensive, especially for TV when I do segments and stuff, Zara's like the go to because it's understandable, it's affordable. They're really on

the pulse of like what's happening and all the brands that you mentioned, and I feel like, you know, like you can go to Aritzia and get all your great. 00:25:26 Speaker 2: Own solid daughter loves riz. 00:25:29 Speaker 5: I just spent thousands of dollars last night for a client, and I know it's all plain and solid, but the basics and the simple cuts and the crop tops and the body suits really good stuff and not not all affordable, but like decently priced. 00:25:41 Speaker 2: Right way, I'm writing that down because I need that stuff. 00:25:44 Speaker 1: You know what, some people think that you should like not have to buy the basics for you. 00:25:50 Speaker 2: Know, years and years and years, and I think that's bes. 00:25:52 Speaker 1: I mean some things you do, like you get the perfect bodysuit I weirdly, I mean, is this crazy? I have pieces in my closet I've had for thirty like good jackets and stuff like that, but even like, have you ever had the perfect body suit or the perfect like white button down and you just take such great care of it because you're never finding it again and you've had it for like twenty years. 00:26:14 Speaker 3: I love that well. 00:26:15 Speaker 5: I'm also like I always say this, are you a boy shopper or a girl shopper? Like a girl shopper cherry picks. A boy shopper will be like, I love that. I'm gonna buy it in every color. I'm gonna stash it. That's who I am, Like, I I buy in all the colors. 00:26:27 Speaker 4: Right. It's a guy thing. 00:26:28 Speaker 5: But a lot of women like to shop like that too, because you fear that you're never gonna find that piece again, and oftentimes you don't. But yeah, the basics are important, especially right now in fashion, a lot of solid, lots of basics. 00:26:37 Speaker 2: I love that leggings are back. 00:26:40 Speaker 1: I have to say, you know, I was you know, I wasn't really like a huge fan of the wearing yoga pants all day until I had children. And then you definitely go through that phase because you have to. And then when you come out of that phase, it's niced to like be a person who gets dressed again. And then you know, with the pandemic and everything, now we're all into athletes as you're wear and all this stuff. But like I'm obsessed with you know, like these like we tone leggings and they're so like you can wear them like pants, and they're so cute and they're so comfortable and to make your butt look great. 00:27:13 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're in California, so we get away with murder here as far as like kind of ath leisure wear and comfort wear, but like the sets and like the dressing, like the solid sets, the stretchy, comfy. 00:27:23 Speaker 4: There is a ton of that and it is not going anywhere. 00:27:25 Speaker 5: You're going to see it going forward into fall twenty twenty one. A lot of solid sets, crop tops, oversized shirts, and soft kind of soft dressing, pull on pants and leggings, like chic cheek cheeks. Stuff that I've been kind of searching and shopping for clients, and I feel like everyone Aritzia has some really cute little sets with like crop short sleeves and like in like lime green, which is a huge color. 00:27:47 Speaker 2: I love that right now. 00:27:48 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's a lot of good stuff. Yeah, that's so interesting. 00:27:52 Speaker 1: So do you So you do think ath leisure wear is here to stay? I agree with you. I think for several reasons. I think it's comfortable, yes, and in a lot of ways affordable, and you can dress it up or down. And let's face it, who didn't gain weight? 00:28:05 Speaker 5: Oh? 00:28:06 Speaker 2: Jarall? 00:28:07 Speaker 1: I just started taking it off like well, because I'm filming again, so I had to. Let's be honest, but do you like do you do you like this notion of kind of like that jogger with the high heel. Do you like that kind of high load dressing or our joggers sneak bougie sneakers. 00:28:23 Speaker 4: Do you no? 00:28:23 Speaker 3: You know what? 00:28:24 Speaker 5: I like it. 00:28:25 Speaker 4: I think it's right on the right person. 00:28:26 Speaker 5: I mean when you see it on Haley Biber and she's six feet tall and perfect and making it look amazing, of course you're want to wear that. 00:28:32 Speaker 4: I do like it. 00:28:33 Speaker 5: I don't know how realistic it is for a lot of people like and I also think it's a fear factor for people to like mixt leisure with like a fashion heel. Personally, yes, I think the silky joggers and like the the pull on pants that are like in linen. There's tons of that linen jogger right now. I think those are super chic for summer, with like an open toe square sandal or a little kitten heel, little botega action. I feel like all that's really cute right now, and I feel like it's understandable as a trend where you buying it inexpensively and you know you probably will ditch it you know, by the end of September. But the comfort dressing as much as everyone's saying, you know, we're gonna be dressing and everyone's gonna be wearing sequence, which is a big another big trend item. 00:29:11 Speaker 4: I think we're still working our way back there. You know. 00:29:14 Speaker 5: I think people are dressing and they're excited to get out and dress, but I don't think people are ready to release the comfort factor of the last year and a half. And the big fashion brands know that. Like you've seen what's happening at some of the highest designers are doing comfort at Leisure oversized, So I feel like that's sticking around for another season or two. 00:29:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 00:29:34 Speaker 1: I've always been a fan of the stretchy dress. I gotta tell you, it's like always been my go to travel off. 00:29:38 Speaker 2: But it doesn't wrinkle. 00:29:40 Speaker 1: There were sneakers on the airplane and then throw heels on and not change. 00:29:43 Speaker 2: Like I'm just I'm a fan of not checking. 00:29:45 Speaker 1: Luggage and you know, sort of like just not wrinkling that. 00:29:50

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Here's Heather. 00:31:37 Speaker 2: What do you think about online shopping? 00:31:40 Speaker 5: I'm upset. It's a problem. I mean, it's problematic. It's so funny now that I online shop so much. I do my best work at like eleven PM, when I'm like getting in bed and I'm on my phone. I do and I'm a psycho because I'm like that person now who's like clicking through Instagram and shopping. I mean, it's crazy, but listen, I think what it's done is really open the doors to a lot of people. And I think that the stores are really Like when I go to a store now, there's not enough stuff, and like even for my clients, I'm like, why do I bother going to Nemen's and Sacks when every size that I need and everything is online. So I think it's it's an important kind of future venture for fashion, and I don't. I think it's I think stores are gonna start dying out even faster because the last year has seen a massive increase in home shopping, in online shopping. And also there's so many deals. There's like you know, the Racketin's and all the click through things that like now, all these websites are finding deals for me for my clients. So you know, I'm spending ten twenty thirty thousand dollars on online shopping for clients, and I'm trying to save them money. So I go looking like the hero. So anytime we can do that, we do it, you know. 00:32:44 Speaker 1: But you're right, and it is hard. First of all, you know what's crazy about me? I actually don't enjoy. 00:32:48 Speaker 4: Shopping, right, I don't like enjoy it for myself. I hate it. 00:32:52 Speaker 2: I don't like it. 00:32:53 Speaker 1: I don't there's something about like being in the stores, and even though everyone's super helpful and nice, like I know, I just I don't like being there. So if sometimes I'll have I do a lot of online shopping, a lot of online shopping, and I know that I'm missing things by not going in the store, not seeing or having someone else purchase things for me, but at the end of the day, I just can't. 00:33:16 Speaker 2: But you know, what I find is so crazy. There's just no inventory. 00:33:19 Speaker 4: Right oh, in the stores you mean, or online in. 00:33:22 Speaker 2: The stores or even online. 00:33:23 Speaker 1: And it reminds me of furniture because you know, it used to be back in the day, furniture stores would have you know, furniture right right, and so you go and you could sit on things, you could see things, and then they'd have warehouses full of furniture. 00:33:34 Speaker 2: It's just too expensive. And I get it for them to pre make all this. 00:33:38 Speaker 1: Stuff, so it almost feels like everything is made as they got. You order like a certain amount of things and then that's it. And I and I think, I feel like clothing is weirdly. I know it's not exactly the same, but that's how it feels. 00:33:52 Speaker 5: There's also like this weird psychology behind trying to find something that you want and not having it, and then you have to go on Google and search seventeen million. I spot a pair of Botaga sneakers that I was like, I just need a slip on sneaker, Like, why is this so hard? I bought them on eBay from the nether Lids wait on Monday afternoon, they're here from the nether Lids and by day I saved like two hundred bucks and they're real and they're brand new, and I was like score, but I literally couldn't find them. But how am I buying something from across the world on a Monday and on a Wednesday it arrives. 00:34:22 Speaker 2: It's crazy, But that is crazy. 00:34:24 Speaker 1: But you know, all right, so I was born to pay retail. I never get a deal. 00:34:28 Speaker 4: And just call me, call me, I get some deals. 00:34:30 Speaker 2: Okay, good, I'm going to It's just me. 00:34:33 Speaker 1: But I wanted this little Fendy dress and if you follow me on Instagram, I posted a little thing orange glad I'm back. So with this Fendy dress on, I had these like Fendy earrings and this Spendy orange basket it's all orange with and I'm wearing a little sneakers whatever. So I wanted that dress. And this drives me insane. So a store will put an advertisement, and in this case, it was Fendy. So Fendy puts an Instagram post months ago whatever that dress as if it's brand new, because it was brand new. So I

call my person at Fendy and I'm like, I want that dress. 00:35:09 Speaker 2: They're like, it's sold out everywhere I go. How could an already be sold out? 00:35:13 Speaker 1: They just posted it, and of course people pre ordered, they prey, they grab it for their clients. Sam Subora's got twelve of those for his other clients. They're all gone and they're gone. And so when I was in Europe, the last time I was in Europe, I mean a year and a half ago, whatever it was, I went into the Fendy store at Monaco and I made friends with the girl that works there, and I had bought some stuff or whatever. So I went on WhatsApp and I messaged her and I'm like, I gotta have this dress. And so she had it and she and are like the same size. She tried it on for me, she took a picture. She sent me the picture and I'm like, I want it, send it to me, and from Monaco, I had it two days later. 00:35:53 Speaker 5: Is that crazy? I mean, the dedication of the But that's the thing. It creates this kind of need to have immediacy, and even like with Amazon and all that stuff, we have like an immediate need to like, you know, get what we want to satisfy ourselves. When it comes to shopping. So I feel like that's why the online shopping. It's like a reward. It's like Christmas at my house. I get twenty five thirty boxes a week. It looks like a like a bad meme on Instagram here at the house. 00:36:17 Speaker 2: But yeah, mine too. Jara doesn't love that. 00:36:19 Speaker 1: By the way, when he comes home, he's like, there's always a box right. 00:36:23 Speaker 2: Like it's planting supplies. 00:36:24 Speaker 4: Get exactly exactly. 00:36:27 Speaker 2: That is so funny. 00:36:30 Speaker 1: So what about people that are going back to the office, what what are people? 00:36:36 Speaker 2: By the way, are people going back? 00:36:37 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, are they I don't know. Yeah, it's a good question. 00:36:41 Speaker 5: I have a lot of friends even that are like starting new jobs and they have a seventeen thousand square foot you know office, and they're like, you can work from home, Like they don't. It's crazy, like huge companies, you know, going back to work, it's like intimidating right now, Like to put on a pair of jeans is probably the most vile thing you can do after being in quarantine and eating and drinking wine and cooking and bak doing all that stuff. So I think there's a little a bit of fear getting dressed again, and you know what it's like, I think we're all a little bit socially awkward. 00:37:09 Speaker 4: I think it's getting better now, but. 00:37:11 Speaker 5: I think that the return to work, I mean, I think people want to present again and look good again, and I feel like we're all a little bit paralyzed because we've all been in comfort dressing. So I have a feeling that the direction going back to work is going to be a little more casual fridays, let's say, than it used to be, even in bigger kind of firms and more serious corporate environments, because I think the quarantine has taught us a big lesson about what we have to do and what we don't have to do. I don't think people are willing to go out of their way so much anymore. I know everyone saying, oh, we want to get dressed. It's the roaring twenties, and is it though? 00:37:44 Speaker 4: Like are we doing? I mean, we want to be comfortable. 00:37:46 Speaker 5: So I feel like it's going to be a big mix of professional casual comfortable. I think that's what it's going to be. And yeah, I mean I don't know. I am I'm wearing clothes because I have to wear clothes. Let's put it that way, like I'm wearing me because you know. 00:38:01 Speaker 1: When the world started opening up again, I was like very much feast or famine. Like we went to Idaho. I was in like a gown. I mean, I didn't care. 00:38:11 Speaker 2: I was so happy to be out. I had strappy heels and a gown. 00:38:14 Speaker 1: I don't care. I was just so happy to be dressed. Or I'm in sweats with no makeup. There's like, right now that I'm filming again, I have to like be in between. 00:38:22 Speaker 2: But there was like no between. 00:38:23 Speaker 1: But I want to talk about denhim because I think it's interesting that you brought up because it's not just the comfortability, but I think we had Okay. 00:38:31 Speaker 2: So where I grew up in Westchester, New. 00:38:33 Speaker 1: York, people wore Levi's, Yeah, okay, And so I never wore jeans until designer jeans came out. And so when I was in like middle school and like early high school, it was Jordash jeans and you wore a comb in your back popet and this this right, this was like the style and it was super cool and that like because my mom didn't understand Levi's. 00:38:56 Speaker 2: She was like too like bougie. 00:38:58 Speaker 1: For that, and so when those came was like, oh, those are fabulous. 00:39:02 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:39:02 Speaker 1: So that was the only time I really ever wore denim until I mean, like my twenties and then I think in the last I would say, ten fifteen years. Don't you think denim has had such a huge moment so acceptable even in a black tie setting. You could see a man in a pair of like clean, beautiful black denim with his shoes and his sportcoat and the whole I mean, you can see all that happening. 00:39:30 Speaker 2: Do you think denim is done? Has it had its moment? 00:39:34 Speaker 5: No, my gosh, I feel like Denham's more expensive now that it's ever been, and you know, I'm shopping for I think Denhim is also kind of like shifting and changing constantly, especially for women's denim. It's like, how do you keep up with what is happening the skim mean, they've been saying now for six months, the skinny gene is dead. We went into the strait, then we went intraight crop. Now it's all about you know, it's all about acid washed for fall. So again, going throwing back to like the nineties and the eighties and the early two thousands, I said, wash jeans are like the wash for fall twenty twenty one,

and they literally look like. 00:40:05 Speaker 4: Jeans we were in the eighties, like guest jeans. It's crazy. 00:40:07 Speaker 5: I think Denham is it's obviously a mainstay, it's important. I think the big brands have taken on Denham as well, especially in men's wear, like making it funky and cool. That's of Japanese inspiration and Donham. So I don't know that it's gonna listen. I think that it's a necessity and I think it's a basic and a staple. But when it comes to women, it's like keeping up with the Jones is like, how do you keep up with what is happening in Denham when you're on TikTok and Instagram and every six minutes it's about a new denim trend and then everyone's kind of clamoring to get it. 00:40:37 Speaker 4: So, yeah, that's the jeans. I love it. 00:40:39 Speaker 5: I love them and I like to use them, but I think it's a paint of the butt to go through and try them all on and find the perfect gene. 00:40:45 Speaker 2: I agree. 00:40:46 Speaker 1: And also, you know, we used to wear all these low waisted jeans and now I just feel like there's just a muffin top, and it's just I can't do and I just I just don't want to be that fin anymore. 00:40:57 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I just don't. I'm glad it. Towards the high wasted jeans. 00:41:01 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's they're great and they're everywhere and they're sticking around, and I feel like there's better version of them. I feel like we perfected the high waisted gene now and now it's like high wasted straight leg and high wated straight crops. 00:41:12 Speaker 4: So they're cute. Once you get into it. 00:41:14 Speaker 5: And get your head out of the skinnies and back into the kind of high they end up looking cute and they're actually fun to dress, especially with all the crops and like all the oversized blazers. We're doing a lot of that, like big shirts with like little crop knits underneath it, so all that stuff looks really cute. With that and the body suits that we were talking about. 00:41:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, very I like a bodysuit is good because then I don't like I don't like fussy things. 00:41:36 Speaker 3: You're right, you're listening to Heather do Brose World. 00:41:45 Speaker 6: Pluto TV is playing the biggest movies every night this summer for free. Watch hit movies like The Matrix, g I Joe, Retaliation, Teenage Mutant, Ninja, Turtles, Scary Movie, Runaway Bride, and more all summer long. Check out the biggest stars like The Rock, Keanu Reeves, Tom Cruise, Julia Roberts, Arms Schwarzenegger, and Moore. 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And to me, like that grunge look that we went through years ago, right, I that was never my. 00:42:57 Speaker 2: Thing, and I don't get it. 00:42:59 Speaker 1: I don't understand by you know, like those jeans that have the dirty wash on. Yes, yes, now the Golden Goose sneakers, I don't get that. 00:43:07 Speaker 5: We're gonna get fired by Golden Goose comfortable. They're comfortable, but they are. 00:43:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that. 00:43:12 Speaker 5: It's Sant Laurent is now doing a little bit of that for men too. It's kind of like the dirty edge. 00:43:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, crops are comfortable too. I don't I don't think you should wear those. 00:43:19 Speaker 5: And speaking of a trend, I mean they're crazy. Justin Bieber is doing crop you know things, and uh, it's crazy what's happening. And it's so fast, like if you and you know, I have certain age groups of clients, my younger clients that just really want all that of the moment stuff. It's hard to keep up with that stuff and it's insane. I'm like, by the time we get this to you, you're not gonna care about it anymore. But God bless it. It's good whatever. 00:43:42 Speaker 3: I think. 00:43:42 Speaker 1: I still stick in my basic like I wear my I'm I have a basic uniform. I think like I have got my black stretchy dresses I wear a lot of black and white. I do like a crisp shirt or a cute T shirt with denim and a blazer. 00:43:58 Speaker 2: Always have a scarf with me always. What are to you? 00:44:03 Speaker 1: What are the pieces like that people should invest in. 00:44:07 Speaker 4: I'm a shoe and bag person. 00:44:08 Speaker 5: Like I love a good bag. I love good shoe. Like talk about shoes and being like your mattress, right, like you rest your body on your mattress. You spend half of your your day and half of your life wearing shoes, So your shoes should be expensive and well supported and good quality. And when I buy something expensive, I beat it up. Like if I buy expensive shoes or something, I wear them so they fall apart, so they're dead correct. So I feel like I, you know, I've spent the money, but I've done the work right, I get it. So shoes are a big thing for me. Bags are a thing for me, Like I love a good bag, And I don't think it has to like flip every season. But if you can add a cute bag every season and kind of build your collection, I feel like, you know, in a semi affordable way, that's a good thing. As you said, a great pair of jeans, A great blazer. Blazers are really important right now in women's fashion, especially oversized blazers, you know, comfortable, little layering linens and lightweight wool, and I think those are going to continue to

stick around because they have an effortless kind of chic but also kind of barred from the boy's quality. 00:45:07 Speaker 4: To them. 00:45:07 Speaker 5: Scarves I love, you can't go wrong if you look at like a like an Airmez vibe or a Parisian vibe. 00:45:13 Speaker 4: You never go wrong with that kind of classic style. 00:45:15 Speaker 5: If you're a woman, I love a stripe tea speaking of Parisian or like maritime fashion, I love a cute little stripe tea with a moto jacket or a blazer. So those things are really kind of essentials to me. The moto, a blazer a cute gene. I think body suits. I know a lot of people won't wear the croped top, and it's obviously certainly like not age proof, but I think the body suit, whether even if. 00:45:36 Speaker 4: You have a little lumpy rollie like, it's okay. 00:45:39 Speaker 5: I think a bodysuit is a good alternative to a tank because tucked into those high rise genes, it smooths everything. It's clean and you can layer over it beautifully. You know, the Kardashians live in a body suit, and God bless them, but you know, I think a bodysuit is becoming a basic shoe wise, I'm a heel wore. 00:45:57 Speaker 4: Can I say that. I put all my clients in heels. They hate it. 00:46:01 Speaker 5: I drive them crazy because I love a high heel. I feel like it really changes everything when you get dressed. But I know that's not reality for a lot of people, but even a little heel for me is important. So you know, have your basic shoes and you're boring comfortable shoes, but also have a couple of backbreakers because I feel like they make a difference. 00:46:16 Speaker 1: I agree, And you walk differently and your legs look different, your butt looks different in heels, I weirdly, I can't and I. 00:46:23 Speaker 2: Don't like them. I can't walk in a kitten heel for some reason. 00:46:26 Speaker 5: That's the sandals these days, like the sandals that came out this summer that are kind of square tone nineties with a low heel. 00:46:32 Speaker 4: I'm getting on board with that. 00:46:34 Speaker 5: I personally think heels a little prissy preppy, and also like I don't think it's like sexy at all. That said, I kind of got on board with a little crop gene and the low heel. 00:46:43 Speaker 4: I thought it looks cute for summer. 00:46:45 Speaker 2: I think it's cute too. I tend to go either flat or high. 00:46:49 Speaker 6: Hi. 00:46:49 Speaker 4: I love that, Yes, except for like. 00:46:51 Speaker 2: I do love I mean, I'm from New York. I do love a loafer. 00:46:55 Speaker 3: So I do love a. 00:46:56 Speaker 2: Big chunky heel loafer. 00:46:58 Speaker 1: I had a pair of dolging about a chug heel over that I wore till they died a terrible death. And I think I have I think I have a pair of something else now. 00:47:06 Speaker 2: But anyway, I love that. 00:47:07 Speaker 1: Look to me, a pair of like dark den and with a crisp white T shirt and a blazer and a chunky loafer and an Amess scarf. 00:47:15 Speaker 4: That's goodbye, You're done, good to go. 00:47:17 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this when it comes to purses. 00:47:20 Speaker 1: So people are always asking me, like what do I invest my money in? 00:47:25 Speaker 2: Like what's the bag? 00:47:26 Speaker 1: And I really kind of go back and forth, because if you don't have one great bag, you want that classic probably a Chanel black bag that you can wear anywhere. 00:47:38 Speaker 2: But the thing is, I remember. 00:47:39 Speaker 1: Hearing someone say years ago, don't ever buy a black bag. Then people think it's the only bag you own. 00:47:45 Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's hilarious and it's like great true black and kogyak. But do you remember when Chanel bags were seventeen hundred dollars and ten fifty and now they're five and six thousand dollars and more. Who were we when we were in our twenties buying Louis Guitton for nine hundred dollars and you can't touch it now. 00:48:01 Speaker 4: It's sad. 00:48:01 Speaker 5: We should have hoarded more back in the day. But I did say this, Yes, I did a lot of life. I have some good stuff hiding the closets, so I think, yes, I think. I mean, look, a good black bag, you can't go wrong. A cognac colored, gorgeous stitched bag, you can't go wrong with those things. But that's hilarious of what that person said, it's probably kind of true, but I don't. I don't let my clients go out of the box with colorful bags until they built up their basics, to be honest. 00:48:28 Speaker 4: But I'm like a bossy. 00:48:29 Speaker 5: Leo, like I'm like now, and I like to like control that part of it. But I think if you have invested in all your black and your Konnak, and you're I'm into cream like stone colored bags right now, really chic once you've invested in those, add your pop colors. But I have clients who only buy novelty right and when I go into their closet, I feel like. 00:48:48 Speaker 4: It looks clowney. 00:48:48 Speaker 5: I have to be honest, I'm like, what is this is like a candy cane candy colored bags And while they're cute to like, put back to stuff, where is the basics? So get your blacks, get your Konnaks, get your stones, and you're off whites, because I think that's important right now. And brand wise, I mean Prada is having a massive moment with a nylon bag, like the the Redo of the of the nylon bags from the nineties with the product metal triangle are everywhere and they're so expensive. 00:49:16 Speaker 4: And stupid, but they do look cute and it's nylon. It's nylon, and I it's not even leather, not even leather. I say it a lot the time. 00:49:26 Speaker 2: You are so fabulous. 00:49:28 Speaker 1: Not only do I want you to style me, but I want you to come back again and talk about awards season or whatever's coming up next? 00:49:36 Speaker 5: Can we talk snack about Award season? Because I feel like the days of like I work with Jone Rivers and Melissa back at the day I love are over? Like when do we we can't talk snack anymore. Everything's a little we have to be

nice. 00:49:48 Speaker 2: We everyone's got to be pc. 00:49:49 Speaker 1: But I think the truth is is that you can't like all right, everyone looks great, but you can talk about styles you like and styles. 00:49:55 Speaker 5: You don't like and what it doesn't work, it doesn't fit yet, Yeah, because it's art of the show, and that's okay as long as it's not means spirited. 00:50:03 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, no, never mean spirited. But I liked. 00:50:05 Speaker 5: I always feel like I have to say only the nice things about things that I don't love. But having said that, the Ward shows seasons have really been crushing it so to be really frank, with all the custom and all the beautiful stuff that's been happening, it's like you can't touch the Regina King. I mean you can't touch her on the red carpet these days. Like she's amazing, so amazing. It's been a cool, it's been a cool year to see what everyone has done. You know, shooting their red carpet looks for Instagram instead. 00:50:30 Speaker 4: Of the red carpet. 00:50:31 Speaker 5: It's been a cool visual year for that, for stylists and for fashion. 00:50:34 Speaker 2: I think, So what is next for you? 00:50:37 Speaker 4: Sam Oh Gosh? A couple of things. 00:50:39 Speaker 5: I mean, I have a weekly segment on Access Hollywood on their daytime show, so that's kind of fun. I just do like what's trending, what's happening. We're talking about Kitty Spencer next to her wedding to see her adult Jay Gabana looks. 00:50:50 Speaker 1: Unbelievable, crazy crazy, She's so chic and cool. 00:50:56 Speaker 4: So what's next? I am. 00:50:57 Speaker 5: I'm actually leaving Shop HQ, to be honest, I don't know that's been announced yet, but I'm heading to HSN in September to start with a line that's been there for a long time. I'm not allowed to say yet, but that's exciting and different after eight years to be doing something different in. 00:51:12 Speaker 4: A little out of the box. And you know, I'm still styling. 00:51:16 Speaker 5: I'm like a working style expert, so I don't like sit here and talk about fashion. I actually I'm a stylist, so I'm working with clients. We're getting ready to prep Emmy's for Samira. She was nominated. 00:51:25 Speaker 2: I so I'm so excited. I can't wait to see what she's gonna wear. 00:51:29 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a suit. I don't know. 00:51:31 Speaker 5: It always like starts out as something that changes, but she's been into suits. 00:51:34 Speaker 4: Lately, so we'll see what happens. We're working on it. 00:51:37 Speaker 2: That is fantastic. 00:51:37 Speaker 1: Well, I'm thrilled to have you on. It's been so great hanging out with you. I wish you continued success and let's have you back on. 00:51:45 Speaker 5: Again soon anytime. 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