How Notion rebuilt for the age of AI
In this episode of Possible, Reid and Aria talk with Ivan Zhao, co-founder of Notion, about what happens when intelligence becomes abundant rather than scarce. Zhao shares his philosophy of treating computing as a material — like steel or steam — and why organizations must be built for human scale …
The Community Currency
A productivity app on the brink of collapse rebuilt itself in a small apartment in Kyoto—and a decade later became an $11 billion company with 100 million users. What changed? Not the product alone, but the people around it.In this episode of Marginally Better, Joe Taylor, Jr. explores the rise of …
$50M ARR With 3 sales reps, no CRO, and one PM | Michael Grinich (CEO, WorkOS)
Michael Grinich is a design-obsessed engineer who once spent days in a recording studio with an electronic musician crafting the perfect email notification sound. He now runs WorkOS, the $50M (accelerating) ARR enterprise infrastructure business powering nearly every major AI company you can think …
Notion co-founder on malleable software, monetizing agentic work, reinvention, more | Akshay Kothari
In this episode of Second Acts, Krish is joined by Akshay Kothari, co-founder at Notion.
Akshay shares notes on: The founding insight behind his first startup, Pulse (acq. by LinkedIn in 2013) and how that led him to Notion, the now-storied Kyoto reset that transformed a flailing, early version of …
Notion’s Ivan Zhao: The Refounder
Ivan Zhao, founder and CEO of Notion, joins me to introduce a new contender in the founder mode debate: jazz mode. Ivan has a different take than Jack Dorsey's circular org chart or Brian Armstrong's player-coach approach. He thinks hierarchy is human nature, and that you can't flatten it away but …
Business used to be go karting. Now it's Formula 1.
Akshay Kothari has spent most of his time at Notion trying to put himself out of a job. His move, repeated for years, is to run at whatever the company's biggest unsolved problem is, build the system around it, hire someone great to own it, and then remove himself. In 2023 the approach left him, a …
SpaceX’s AI gamble and the crackdown on AI slop
Elon Musk’s SpaceX is spending billions on AI data centres, rocket ships and moon ambitions but investors are asking how much it can burn before the bet pays off. Meanwhile, ‘AI slop’ is flooding social media. And new EU rules mean platforms will have to label AI-generated content. But can regulati…
Prediction markets are invading everything
Nearly every tech CEO I talk to right now is obsessed with two things: AI and prediction markets. In that order, but barely.
Yesterday, I interviewed Substack CEO Chris Best about his new integration with Polymarket, which he confirmed is the deepest outside partnership Substack has ever done. It l…
How the head of Obsidian went from superfan to CEO
Obsidian is a note-taking and productivity app that occupies the same "second brain" space as competitors like Notion — but in a lot of ways, it's also startlingly different. Obsidian's files are Markdown-based, stored locally on your own devices, and completely free to use. Steph Ango, the CEO, …
Notion's CEO wants you to demand better from your tools
This is Casey Newton, founder and editor of Platformer and cohost of the Hard Fork podcast. This is the second episode of my productivity-focused Decoder series I’m doing while Nilay is out on parental leave. Today, I’m talking with Notion cofounder and CEO Ivan Zhao. I’ve followed Notion for qui…
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