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[SPEAKER_11]: Hello and welcome to useful idiots Monday morning where we watch the Sunday morning news shows that you don't have to.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm Katie Halper.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I'm Erin Mattay.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Thank you so much for being here.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Good Monday morning.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Great to start the week with you.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Let's take it back to 24 hours ago, okay?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Let's say it's Sunday morning, you're waking up.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's two days away from the midterms, which will decide the fate of the country, maybe even the world for a time to come.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And you're feeling anxious because over in Michigan, which could decide control of the Senate, there's now all of a sudden this huge clash between the progressive,
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[SPEAKER_10]: nominee Abdul Osayid.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And the candidate he defeated in the primary in a very bitter primer, Haley Stevens.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Abdul Osayid asked Haley Stevens not to attend a unity rally because Haley Stevens was spending her last days on the campaign criticizing Abdul Osayid.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And so he asked for still way.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So let's say you wake up sitting morning feeling anxious.
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[SPEAKER_10]: You think, oh my god, is like Haley Stevens gonna spoil the Michigan race and is this one race gonna determine essentially the fate of the country.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, don't worry everybody because Congress member Jamie Raskin has to reassuring words for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My wonderful friend, Haley Stevens, it wants me to represent to you and everybody else I talked to that she is voting straight down the line on the Democratic ticket and she's going to be celebrating with Democrats across the country when we went on Tuesday night.
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[SPEAKER_10]: incredible news everybody.
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[SPEAKER_10]: There's been tension between Haley Stevens and I'm jealous side, but don't worry, Jamie Reskin spoke to her just last night, and she wanted to him to tell everybody that she's voting all down on the Democratic ticket, including for Abdul Osayat.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Right, which is as close as you can hope for her, right?
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[SPEAKER_11]: She's not going to say, I'm just a little side.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We've seen her do these appearances before.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She's very much committed to framing this as doing it for the Dems, right?
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[SPEAKER_11]: But fine, that obviously means that that will include I'm just a little side.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And Erin, did we have any updates from Haley herself?
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[SPEAKER_11]: I was listening to this.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Let's hear from Haley's team of yourself.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Shirley after, Shirley after this.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Hey, Michigan, as you may have seen our Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate, a goal, said that I was no longer welcome in his campaign, and that I should stay away.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, I just had to say one thing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This is a weird angle.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm not sure we're going to get into her fiance, who may or may not be playing a role in this drama, but maybe he's like coaching her and he doesn't, he's like not holding it in an interesting way or trying to hold it in an interesting way.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Also, this is a superficial thing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Just make sure when you're doing a video because it's happened to me too.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You have water because what you're going to hear throughout this is that she doesn't have enough hasn't had enough water and then you hear these.
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[SPEAKER_11]: which you don't want when you're making a video that's going to be seen by, you know, hundreds of thousands of people probably, and it's going to steal your political fate.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And he's right.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And that's why I am endorsing my Rogers for the United States Senate today.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I don't want an Abdul's campaign.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I do not stand with Hassan Piker who gets traffic on our college campuses.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, first of all, I didn't know this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This is a real emergency.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Soundpiker is getting traffic on college campuses.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Someone called the FBI.
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[SPEAKER_11]: There is a trafficking scandal happening.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Protect, protect, I mean, makes sense because they really exploit him as we saw at the RNC.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They put up a scantily-clad photo of him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So, that's a surprise that he's getting traffic.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Let's go.
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[SPEAKER_18]: A dear friend of
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mine earlier today was saying that education is on the ballot.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And she's absolutely right.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And what our students see, what our children see, and who we are as Michiganers is not hate.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, so what is the education ramification of this that don't worry guys if you think that is really shouldn't kill people you won't get elected Don't worry guys if you think that It's we can have a for our first Muslim senator That's not gonna happen either.
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[SPEAKER_16]: What is the educational thing in this?
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I'm sure that Mike Rogers is very bad on education But then again that the policy this isn't including not about that policy.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, it's very fitting that a cycle really dominated by the obsession over Hassan Piker, by everybody who puts Israel first.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Now ends with Hayley Stevens literally trying to decide the fate of the Senate, handing it to Republicans.
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[SPEAKER_10]: you know, she's a dumb crowd because of Hassan Piker.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And when she said that education is on the ballot and she just said that Hassan Piker is being trafficked on college campuses, but like by which she meant that he's been speaking at some college campuses popular there.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So basically Hassan Piker is also sealing the fate of the entire education system because he's allowed to speak in some college campuses.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Although actually that's not even true because sometimes he's been barred from speaking.
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[SPEAKER_10]: because, of course, in this country, if you criticize Israel, you face deplatforming and censorship.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And she's decided that because a sonpiker, it's friends with a bullseye, they haven't been campaigning together recently.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like, I've got a side's been avoiding him in the last weeks.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Because of that, this is worth supporting Republican Mike Rogers over.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: so crazy.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Pretty extraordinary.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, let's finish the video because we want to make sure, you know, and by the way, I said, you know, how many people have seen this, we've got the number 26 million plus have seen this video.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So we really want to, you definitely want to hydrate when you're doing a video like that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, back to this video.
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[SPEAKER_18]: not what we are getting out from our democratic nominee right now.
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[SPEAKER_18]: So I am just one person, I love this state as some of you know, life, you know, run a campaign saying that it was a love letter of a Michigan and I'm here to declare who we are as Michiganers.
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[SPEAKER_18]: This is Phil Hart's seat.
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[SPEAKER_18]: for the US Senate.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This is the conscience of the Senate right now, which is why I'm going to be voting for someone I said is going to represent everything that Donald Trump says and essentially ostensibly I was opposed to that, but something changed.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And our Michigan moment,
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[SPEAKER_18]: And I'm just letting you know where I am.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I'm still a very proud Democrat.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I still very much believe in everything I've voted for instead and have worked really hard.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And we'll continue to do so in all the ways life's opportunities afford.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Godspeed and love you all so much.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's an interesting way to write a love letter to Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm reading a love letter to you by endorsing the guy who I say is going to run to stay in the country.
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[SPEAKER_10]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, she not only endorsed Mike Rogers, but then she stood next to him at a event and then a news conference.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And watch what happens is Mike Rogers,
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[SPEAKER_10]: You know, like smears, I'd go outside and it's just so interesting because we're going to hear Haley Steven shortly talk about how like Abdul-Assad's campaign is vitriolic, it's nasty.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, she doesn't have the same, and of course it's not as opposed to what Mike Rogers says.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm in politics blaming a certain group of people for all of your problems that sounds like 1933.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't sound like 1926.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, I think he met 1933 not in 1923, not in 1926, right?
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[SPEAKER_11]: He's trying to say this is like a hit Larry on thing, basically once again, the great comparison between more we're seeing today in the propel of time movement and Nazi Germany.
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[SPEAKER_11]: which is by the way, uh, something that Netanyahu says and also Dan a bash famously said that the protests, the encampments were harketing back to, uh, 1930s Europe and I do not say that lightly.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But I think it's funny that he said 1926, because of
course that made me think like he's he's praising Vymar Germany, um, as opposed to Nazi Germany, which if he were doing that, of course his supporters would get very angry because that was a, uh, an age
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[SPEAKER_11]: Uh, especially when it comes to gender stuff.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: What's amazing about this clip.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And let's hear it again.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He's a scripting to help deal a side.
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[SPEAKER_10]: What Trump has been doing since the start of his political career, claiming a group for all your problems.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Trump's whole campaign when he came down the golden escalator, it was launched on xenophobia.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And that's all he's done ever since.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Remember in his first speech, the Mexicans, they're called them rapists, they're not saying they're best.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, this is what he's done ever since.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So Mike Rogers is fulting someone.
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[SPEAKER_10]: for like blaming a group for their problems and literally that is the manga playbook.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And one of these referring to is an ad that was put out in Michigan, not by Abdul Ahsaiad, but by Jank Wieger's hack.
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[SPEAKER_10]: That basically pointed out that people are paying higher prices because of Israel, right?
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[SPEAKER_10]: And it was a totally factual ad.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It was saying that like, you know, energy prices, food prices are higher because of the war on Iran, which was done as a Trump administration admitted.
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[SPEAKER_10]: at the behest of Israel, in service of Israel's interest.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And that's all the ad by Jenk pointed out.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It was a great, it was a great ad.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Abdul Assad didn't even do that ad, but Haley Stevens demanded that he condemn it.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And Abdul Assad to his credit.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And this is honestly a rare time in recent progressive political history.
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[SPEAKER_10]: when a progressive has not capitulated to the, you know, centrist right-wing mob.
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[SPEAKER_10]: As they have so many times, he didn't actually condemn the ad to his credit.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And so because he didn't condemn the ad, that then led to, um, daily Stevens denouncing him and ultimately resigning.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And now Mike Rogers is trying to, is trying to, is trying to exploit that.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And in the process, he ends up pushing the
same demonization that he accuses.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I've do all a sigh of doing exactly.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And
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[SPEAKER_11]: And by the way, just some background intrigue that we're going to get to later is that when we said that he apparently told it to stay away, it was also something that Michigan Democrats wanted.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So Debbie Dingle, a congresswoman of Michigan, according to New York Times article on this, didn't think it was a good idea for them to appear together, which they were going to do, because it was going to be distraction because there was so much like antipathy between the two of them.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So I just think that you're going to see a lot of hurt feelings from Haley Stevens.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And again, I don't know if this is was always in the plan.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This was always planned if she was really that thin skinned and hurt by being told to stay away from the campaign.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Or if this is the doing of her fiance, who will get to it later, but just keep all of those that kind of palace intrigue in your minds.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, back to, back to, uh, microutures, and Haley, safely.
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[SPEAKER_04]: As consequences for those communities, they're, I wish Jewish Democrats are calling me afraid for their children to stay in the state of Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We can't have it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, I am really proud to have her vote, but it is bigger than that as well.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There are lots of Democrats.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And all we can do is speak for ourselves, you know, you mentioned Islamophobia, a dual and his incredible family.
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[SPEAKER_18]: They are very proud Muslim Americans and Muslim Americans are going to cast their vote as well.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_18]: And I don't want to speak for anyone at all I can do is speak for myself.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I'm sure that Mike is talking with and working with, you know, some of the Muslim American community.
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[SPEAKER_18]: That is one of our pride in
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, what is she even saying here?
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[SPEAKER_11]: First of all, all she can do is speak for herself, all I can do is speak for myself.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So then she doesn't need to, obviously, like, endorse.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But she's coming out publicly.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This is not just about like doing what she thinks is right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But also, what is she talking about
with, he's like a beautiful family and their Muslim Americans and she actually trying to like,
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[SPEAKER_11]: Do like subtle Islamophobia like reminding people that he's that he's Muslim, but it's also weird that she's calling him his wonderful family like I don't understand So so he's a good guy, or he's Hitler reincarnated.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, no, she's saying like, you know, yes, I'm campaigning with an open Islamophobic, but I Dual-sized great and his family's great like I'm you know like like they're like they're good Muslims We're just sort of trying to target like the broader Muslim community of which he is a part right and by the way just answer a question
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[SPEAKER_10]: Do Aaron and Katie take super chat questions or was this prerecorded, this is live.
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[SPEAKER_10]: This is live left wing nationalists.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Of course, this is live and yes, we do take super chat if you have questions.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And if we, if we have time at the end, okay, let's hear more from this awkward news conference with Hayley Stevens and Mike Rogers.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Or do you want to organize why please can we get outlet in name when we call them we'll start down here.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Are you concerned?
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[SPEAKER_10]: We get an outlet.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Brian Todd from Sienna.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Are you okay?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, that spokesperson is asking for the names of reporters and the outlets of reporters.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, it turns out that spokesperson.
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[SPEAKER_10]: who we just heard from, is a literal registered foreign agent for Israel.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Our name is Abby Ronson and drop side news reported on Sunday that Abby Ronson is a registered foreign agent for Israel.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Great, great, great.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And this comes after APAC, which should be registered as a foreign agent for Israel, but it's not somehow.
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[SPEAKER_10]: They spent $30 million dollars.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Don't forget in the primary, on Haley Stevens.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And $30 million failed to defeat Abdel aside, but apparently it wasn't enough to get the candidate who Abdel aside defeated Haley Stevens to go and endorse his Republican opponent.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And what a shocker that the Rogers spokesperson, she's a spokesperson for Mike Rogers, is literally a registered foreign agent for Israel.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You really can't make this up.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You cannot make this up.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Let's work for when you work for a foreign government, you know, some people might call you a trader.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And those especially call you a trader if you throw your own party out of the bus to endorse or a public and who stands to if you wins, take control of the Senate for Jones from party and this is how the news conference with Hayles Stevens and Mike Rogers wrapped up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, how are you supporting a candidate that stands so firmly with some of the policies that you still firmly against?
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[SPEAKER_18]: Look, nothing is perfect for anything is perfect, yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
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[SPEAKER_10]: when you've just thrown your own part under the bus and the service of Israel is being called the trader and so they shut the news conference down.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, because they literally what the hell can they say?
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[SPEAKER_11]: But I like to respond to that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But also, what is she saying?
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[SPEAKER_11]: No, nothing is perfect.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, this is not like a subtle nuanced thing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You're literally endorsing the person who you ran against who you claim is pushing Trump's agenda, which in theory you don't like.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But, you know, it's also ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's the whole thing about blaming a group.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Just reminder that, you know, there are more Christians I and this in the world than Jewish I and this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And of course, there are Jewish I and this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And of course, Israel claims to be the Jewish state.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But in terms of blaming a group, the Israeli lobby is by, by religious, by cultural, multicultural, intercultural, interfaith.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So they're not really,
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[SPEAKER_11]: blaming a single group, but it's not anti-Semitic to criticize funding Israel as it commits to genocide.
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[SPEAKER_11]:
Just want to remind people that.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But even if they were just Jews, it would be totally fine to blame them because they're responsible for a genocide and for funneling tens of billions of dollars into the genocide.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And for raising prices in the process, there's nothing wrong with pointing out that this foreign government is against U.S. interests.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And that's what Janks ad did.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And unfortunately, they're even Democrats rushing to condemn it as anti-Spanish.
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[SPEAKER_10]: when it was actually totally, totally accurate.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Everyone knows that we have high energy prices because of the war on Iran and the only interest that the war on Iran served was US and Israeli hegemony.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, Haley Stevens was not done.
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[SPEAKER_10]: After a pair with Mike Rogers, she went on Anderson, she wanted to see an interview with Anderson Cooper and it got really awkward.
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[SPEAKER_05]: fellow Michigan congresswoman Debbie Dingle said that she talked to you at midnight last night and that you told her you were not going to endorse my garages.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If that is true what change between then and this morning.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Well, look, this is just a wait off my shoulders.
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[SPEAKER_11]: OK, Abdul, he's not asking you what the psychological effect of this was and how you're feeling right now.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He's asking you what change.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So thank you for this therapeutic session that you're having with Anderson Cooper.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But it would be nice if you answered the question.
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[SPEAKER_18]: has been getting angrier and angrier.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I was trying to help.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And I endorsed him.
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[SPEAKER_18]: That ad was very painful.
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[SPEAKER_18]: There's so many Democrats who want to vote for our Democratic nominee.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And they're just being told, hey, this is a party you don't belong in or this is a campaign you don't belong in.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, Netanyahu, you don't belong in this party.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's the message of that ad.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And I've never cast a present vote in the Congress.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I'm making a decision here.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And that's just where I landed on this.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I woke up this morning, clear-eyed, fresh, and focused on what was in my heart.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And that's that.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And there's a lot of incredible things going around Michigan and frankly, this country with these elections here, and again.
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[SPEAKER_05]: My question, though, is what changed from the phone conversation you had with Congressman Debbie Dingle, and waking up refreshed in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Did you talk to anybody?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Did you have a long night of the soul?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Were you up all night?
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[SPEAKER_05]: What did you have a dream?
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[SPEAKER_05]: What happened?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Good question.
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[SPEAKER_11]: By the way, a little foreshadow, and we're going to play that, but... Well, it's play right now.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It is a great question, and she's not going to answer it to Anderson Cooper, but she might have answered the question a while ago, speaking publicly at a rally.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So here it is.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Here's her dream.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And in the United States Congress, I will continue to fight for the people of Israel.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I will continue to fight for Israel's existence.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Israel comes to me and my dreams.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I see Israel's future, and I know that Israel will continue to exist for the Jewish people.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Let's go to the one more time, just because I can't, because she won't tell us this on an action Cooper.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I think it's important here from our own words.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Really what might have happened between telling everyone a Saturday night that she's endorsing up Goliside to re-canting and endorsing my garage as long as it is.
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[SPEAKER_18]: It's real comes to me and my dreams.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I see.
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[SPEAKER_10]: There it is.
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[SPEAKER_10]: We got her answer.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it comes to me and my dreams too when I have nightmares.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Israel came to hell, see even to dreams that you woke up Sunday morning and promptly endorsed the as well first candidate.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I think it's pretty simple.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And by the way, here's a mailer that I found one of Haley's Stevens last mailers from the primary.
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[SPEAKER_11]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Haley Stevens, I dream of BB with BB, you know, and the I dream of dreamy costume, which okay, I did
make that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's not real.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Just a clarify.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Maybe she also remembered that Apex spent 30 million dollars.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's a lot of my $30 million dollars in her primer.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Maybe she's dreamt about that.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I was like, you know what, I kind of owe them a little favor here.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And maybe if I do this, maybe Apex might have more.
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[SPEAKER_10]: money or opportunities to offer me down the line.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Who knows, right?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like, it is pretty, it's pretty evil to support APEC, but it's also pretty profitable and maybe she ruminated on that during her night's rest.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So that's Haley Stevens with Anderson Cooper.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Actually, we have a lot more.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Here's more from the interview.
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[SPEAKER_10]: really just about.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Right now.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to have a couple of questions back in August.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You posted on social media, quote, Mike Rogers will be another rubber stamp for Donald Trump's dangerous agenda.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We can't afford to give mega another Senate seat in November.
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[SPEAKER_05]: How do you, why is it okay now?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Why can't you afford now to give mega another Senate seat in November?
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[SPEAKER_18]: Well, why is it okay to have the Democratic Party and a top nominee that, you know, ejecting, you know, this type of or injecting rather this type of anger and lack of kindness.
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[SPEAKER_18]: That's all.
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[SPEAKER_14]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_14]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's the only one that just tell the people.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's what it is.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And there's others who feel the same way, you know, I can find this finance.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to talk over.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, she is so bad.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I feel really bad for actually.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She's so bad at pivoting and she's so bad at not asking the question.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like there is actually a skill to that and people try to do this pretty well and they come off as kind of gross but they do it much more effectively.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She's like not even, it doesn't even know how to pivot.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She just goes to another question.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like, you know, she needs some coaching, big time.
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[SPEAKER_11]: A pack, what are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_11]: How could you, how could you not give her amazing media training?
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[SPEAKER_10]: This whole talk with an anger and lack of kindness.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like Anderson should ask you what specifically you're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it's pretty vague to say.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I've dual-sized injecting anger and lack of cuts.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So like, what's an example?
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[SPEAKER_10]: And every example is going to go back to the fact that and add not even associated with the dual-sized campaign, just pointed out that Israel is driving a lot of high-cost for people because of the war on a run.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And how was that, first of all, even if you think that that's lack of kindness to criticize a foreign government.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But it wasn't even up until the side of doing that.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It was a pack that supports him, which happens all the time.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And he's not even responsible for.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And I'm top of the fact that it's true.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And certainly, whether you think it's true or not, it's not anger and lack of kindness.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I'm until the side seems like a pretty kind guy to me.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He's, you know, he's got a positive message and he's campaigning on.
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[SPEAKER_10]: many things, not just opposing genocide, but also Medicare for all, which is a kind thing to want to give health to people as opposed to Republicans want to take it away.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She can't answer the question because it's totally incoherent to say that Mike Rogers is a rubber stamp for Trump and then to endorse him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And she's trying to make it about this weird like personal journey.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I'm just one person.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, you're just one person.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Obviously, you're using this as a political moment because you're announcing this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's an endorsement.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You're literally endorsing him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So like, don't pretend this
is just a form of self-expression and being true to yourself.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And it's actually really sad because it really gives like mean girl PTSD vibes.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like she was not popular in high school or something.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And she's really upset about that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Because she feels like she just comes across as so rejected.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And it's really insane.
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[SPEAKER_10]: All right, here's more from the Haley Stevens interview
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[SPEAKER_18]: All these break Democrats across this country come in to check Trump and they are going to you know, I absolutely do.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I just, I'm just casting my vote this one way.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I want Democrats to make control of the Senate.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Just not the race that will decide Democratic control.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And again, you know, it'd be one thing if people, if there was, like, you could see that there was a scoop and it's like, at least even, it's like, tells best friend that she's not voting for our, for our adults, aside, that's not what this is.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This is, at least even, it's going on national news.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know, this is a political move.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She wants Abdul al-Said to lose.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Now, one thing is, if she's actually smart, she may actually know, and if she is, I gotta hand it to her, she may actually be saying this because she knows that she's so repulsive.
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[SPEAKER_11]: uh... that uh... this will actually help uh... abdualside and she would be right because you know what happened this weekend on sunday um... abdualside shattered his previous single they fundraising record he raised two point four million dollars according to his website uh... and included in this work twenty nine thousand six hundred two first time donations so maybe hailey really is helping uh... the alciat team and this is her way of of preventing uh...
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[SPEAKER_10]: that's that I haven't considered that so this could be like a new span on the heel turn like you know in wrestling you have like you know the concept of the heel where like the good guy becomes the villain but I've never heard of like the good guy becoming the villain in a secret plot to really help the good guys right so that could be Haley Stevens move here right she's she's doing a heel turn as the villain in such an unpleasant and incoherent fashion as to really help the good guys that's fascinating.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And that's why you
guys have to turn tune into Monday morning because we're all so you get this incredible analysis.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, if I were to hear the statements, I would I would I would I would go with that one.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: After if if I'd go outside wins, I would say you see everyone.
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[SPEAKER_10]: This is my plan all on and all is forgiven.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And by the way, you know how I was saying she is such a high school, like me and girl vibes are mean girl victim vibes, bully vibes, even even it's not even high school.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's more like middle school because you notice when Anderson Cooper asked her like, why is it okay to now endorse my graduate?
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[SPEAKER_11]: She's like, well, why is it okay for the Democrat?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like she's just like, I know you are, but who am I?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Basically, that's like the vibe of what she's saying.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, let's hear more from this interview.
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[SPEAKER_11]: casting my vote a certain way and you know I hope to see more kindness within the Democratic Party and for all of us and in the meantime I'm going to vote for the guy who's going to prevent you know Medicare for all from happening which again is an expression of kindness.
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[SPEAKER_18]: to just accept when somebody has a disagreement.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I mean, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I changed my mind, you know what I said?
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[SPEAKER_18]: Hey, I don't need your endorsement, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_18]: You know, and by the anger, why the frustration?
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[SPEAKER_18]: Why the obsession with Iran and all these other issues about what's going on overseas?
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[SPEAKER_18]: What are we gonna do here in this country?
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[SPEAKER_10]: You're the lady who said that Israel comes to you and you're talking, we should ask you that question.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Why are you dreaming of a foreign country and bragging about it?
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[SPEAKER_10]: And why are you demanding that Abdullah Sayed denounce an ad, a factual ad that he didn't even make?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_10]: You're obsessed with a foreign country and that foreign country is Israel.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, and also, if foreign policy is irrelevant, again, why did APEC spend $30 million in dollars back in her?
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[SPEAKER_11]: And why did she abandon, and E-like Clefton actually made this point, why did Steven's abandoned the Democratic Party to back the Republican candidate who APEC supports in the general election?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Foreign policies are relevant, and that's why I accepted $30 million in help from a foreign lobby.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I also did ads for APAC, like before this.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I mean, it's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I don't know how much Jank spent on this ad, but whatever he spent, it's a patent's compared to all the free publicity.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's gotten like it's, it's just, you know, there's so many ads spent by outside groups during an election cycle.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And this one,
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[SPEAKER_10]: has to be one of the most consequential, maybe the most consequential or controversial ever, it's unbelievable and all because it simply pointed out that people are paying higher prices because of war, a war that was launched at the behest of and in the interest of Israel.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's it's truly extraordinary and Hayley's statement is not done obsessing over Hassan Piker, his uncle, Jank Wieger, and Democrats who oppose genocide.
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[SPEAKER_18]: switch around.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You said in a press conference today, we can't stand with hate.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Do you believe that a dual L side is hateful or an anti-Semite?
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[SPEAKER_10]: You know, Anderson, like fair question, but if you're gonna make that statement, why don't you point out that Mike Rogers spews hate.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And Mike Rogers is an ally of a president who is a hateful bigot.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like why is it always on candidates to vet Abdul Usai who never says anything hateful at all?
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's just, it's all like the ignore the, I mean, it's a fair question if you want to put that to, but like they're also ignoring the most blatant hypocrisy.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Mike Rogers has campaigned in the sum of public wagons up to a site.
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[SPEAKER_10]: How is that?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Why is that not exactly asked?
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, sometimes it is posed.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I don't want to say it's totally ignored.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But it doesn't get the focus that it deserves.
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[SPEAKER_18]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I think some of the actions have certainly been anti-Semitic Anderson, but I'm just sick of who we stand with.
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[SPEAKER_18]: He's picking a sonpiker and the uncle,
you know, over.
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[SPEAKER_18]: That's my favorite.
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[SPEAKER_10]: If I was in the, you know, piker, weaker family, I would get that printed on a, like a family t-shirt.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like he stands with a sonpiker and the uncle.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's time to cry, Uncle.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And it's time.
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[SPEAKER_10]: We're talking about an election.
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[SPEAKER_10]: There's about so many issues and you're obsessing your subsets with a sunpiker that you're literally making your explanation about why you're switching to a voting for a public and about a sunpiker and his uncle.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's just.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I also like the way she's saying like, well, yeah, there's antisemitism, but more importantly, there's the uncle.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's really what I'm upset about.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Whole heck of a lot of people.
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[SPEAKER_18]: There are people who want to vote for him.
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[SPEAKER_18]: They wanted to hear from him.
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[SPEAKER_18]: They're not trying to beat him up.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I wanted to build him up and he just kept coming back.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And this is about a U.S. Senate seat.
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[SPEAKER_10]: What do you mean you want to build them up?
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[SPEAKER_10]: You spent recent days demanding that he denounced Jank's ad.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And basically insinuating he was an anti-Summit if you didn't.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And now you're campaigning with Mike Rogers.
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[SPEAKER_10]: If you really wanted to build them up, uh, but you weren't comfortable voting for him.
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[SPEAKER_10]: You could simply just withdraw and not say anything.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So you know, you're campaigning with his opponent, his Republican opponent.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's so funny.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's really is like, um,
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like abuse, I mean you interviewed, you did that great interview about this and how you see like similarities between political issues and personal abuse, she really is saying like it hurts me more than it hurts him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like she wanted to be good to him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She wanted to build him up unfortunately, she has to now betray him.
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[SPEAKER_10]: it's a very Israeli explanation these days.
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[SPEAKER_10]: This is really talking my forever.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's been, you know, we didn't want to kill their children, but they made us, made us kill their, you know, it's similar.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like, I didn't want to go in a door, uh, microtters that are public in, but until a sigh, it just wouldn't stop.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He wouldn't stop like rejecting my disingenuous attacks on him, you know?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's, uh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Um, it's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Do we have any more of this clip?
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[SPEAKER_10]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_18]: But again, you actually listen to people in my sense.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's why when you endorse him, you knew, you keep referencing the uncle.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I assume you knew about the uncle and whatever else he
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[SPEAKER_10]: No, Anderson, the problem is not the uncle.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I'm not the uncle.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I'm not the uncle.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's not a problem, okay?
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's a manufactured outrage.
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[SPEAKER_10]: The problem is Islamophobia and Israel first.
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[SPEAKER_10]: That's not a problem, okay?
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[SPEAKER_10]: And that's what he's not calling out.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's not a matter of like, oh, we knew that Hassan Piker supported up to the side and they campaigned together a couple times.
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[SPEAKER_10]: You like, you know, no, the problem is, why are you being in a somophobic, bigot and standing with Republicans when you're a Democrat?
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[SPEAKER_10]: and you're threatening to support handy control of the Senate to their publicants.
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[SPEAKER_10]: That is the issue here.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Not the uncle.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm still unclear.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it sounds like last night was a really big night where a lot built up.
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[SPEAKER_05]: what the turning point was.
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[SPEAKER_18]: But this is your assumption, Anderson.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I mean, that's your attitude.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Why don't I, I mean, I certainly didn't.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I certainly didn't.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You're willing to be at a
campaign event for him.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You wanted to be at a public event with him up until some point, I guess yesterday, and it's just an interesting change.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think a lot of people are curious to try to understand it.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Was that a question Anderson or yeah, no, I wanted to look at how happened see if you wanted to fill in silence, but you don't look yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Look, this is like an ascent, you can't even make fun of this on ethanol because it's already written.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Very cringy yeah, very very very very cringy let's let's let's let's let's let's let her finish up though.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Michiganers are going.
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[SPEAKER_18]: to the ballot box.
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[SPEAKER_18]: All right, you know, there's over a million people who have already voted more to go.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And I've made my, you know, uh, can I just, well, I have a question clear.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I've made it.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I've made it clear.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Where I am.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I love my state.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I think this is a mission at the end of the moment.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And you did speak with councilman Debbie Dingo last night.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe not at midnight, some time last night.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And you did tell her,
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[SPEAKER_05]: you were not doing this and you told her, you told other people, you would be at the church service with Clyburn.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You told Debbie Dingo, you were not going to do this.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Is that correct?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Last night at some point.
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[SPEAKER_18]: Anderson.
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[SPEAKER_18]: that that is, you know, nice editorializing and nice bits of information.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I mean, that just makes that a big role.
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[SPEAKER_18]: What's going on with this in politics?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm giving you the courtesy of some of this.
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[SPEAKER_18]: I had an opportunity to go to a church service and have a prayerful moment.
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[SPEAKER_18]: It was Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_18]: It was very beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_18]: It was about friendship of which I have many incredible friends in the Democratic Party.
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[SPEAKER_18]: And I care a lot about that.
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[SPEAKER_10]: very moving, very, very moving from Haley Stevens.
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[SPEAKER_10]: She cares so much about the Democratic Party that she's willing to endorse their public.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, a sacrifice that we'll remember for the ages.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, who said that the electoral politics isn't exciting, because this one certainly is a bombshell.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It certainly is a November surprise.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay,
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[SPEAKER_10]: She was trying to broke her piece between Halestavins and Abdul-Assad, obviously that didn't work out.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And afterwards, she went on with Anderson Cooper to respond to the interview.
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[SPEAKER_14]: First of all, I want to say I'm not sure I would have done this, but she was going to be on immediately before me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I did.
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[SPEAKER_14]: That was one of the most painful interviews I have ever watched.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I, Debbie is all of us when she says that, by the way, she's all of us, yes.
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[SPEAKER_14]: all last week.
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[SPEAKER_14]: She's a human being.
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[SPEAKER_14]: I've had multiple conversations with her.
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[SPEAKER_14]: I'm far from being the only one that has.
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[SPEAKER_14]: And I'm very concerned that this has all become a distraction that people of Michigan do care about what's happening to the cost of the groceries, the word about
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know, by the way, we should say it's not just Debbie who's upset.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, Haley's chief of staff has quit.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She has been condemned by the state Democratic Party.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's really is kind of a terrible political move on her part.
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[SPEAKER_10]: At least half her staff resigned, but look, her term was was ending anyway.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So,
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[SPEAKER_10]: That's not going to have a long-term impact on her office, but yet her long-term political prospects certainly have changed and I don't see the Democratic Party welcoming her back anytime soon all the you never know with Democrats and their ability to be moral cowards.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So you can't close the door, but we heard there the debiting will say that she's worried about Haley Stevens.
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[SPEAKER_10]: She's concerned, understandably if you watch the interview, but someone else is concerned from a different angle
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[SPEAKER_10]: is Haley Stevens newfound ally in the public party in that House Speaker Mike Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've spoken to
her and courage shirt to stay safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it keeps speaking the truth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think she's doing that very well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She ought to be committed for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Think she's not safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a we're in a heightened bread environment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody in politics is and their dangerous people out there, of course she and her fiance have been getting a lot of threats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, sorry, and someone else is also very concerned with those who are Stephen safety.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I got here really care about women safety.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So horrible, dude.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He's a geotic.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He's a Muslim brother.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I'd say she's a danger.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I think she was very brave doing it.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So, yes, according to all Trump, Mike Johnson, Jihadists might be threatening Haley Stevens.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And one more way for Trump to throw in the Islamic phobic thing, another angle, just before the election, which is pretty much always campaigning on when it comes to Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's just blatant Islamophobia.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's really embarrassing that it's still, that it's not
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[SPEAKER_10]: called out at all.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I'll be allowed to just be a big it against an entire ethnic group.
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[SPEAKER_10]: You couldn't get away with that against certainly by speaking that way about Jewish people.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So if you're talking about Arabs and Muslims, totally, totally accepted.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And you know, the irony is that they are putting a dual in danger.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know, it's not Haley Stevens who's in danger.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's a dual because far right white nationalist groups and individuals are far more dangerous and, you know, responsible for 75% to 80% of U.S. domestic terrorism related deaths.
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[SPEAKER_11]: from 2001 to 2025.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This is from a congressional document.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So, you know, who knows how this could affect Abdul, like who knows what not job this could unleash on him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: As opposed to no, I don't think actually Abdul is going to launch a G-Hide against Halis Stevens.
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[SPEAKER_10]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, in terms of what might have influence Halis Stevens to make such a bold decision as to
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[SPEAKER_10]: because she's a Democrat to their Republican and Trump ally.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, a guy named Jason Turkish has surfaced in recent weeks.
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[SPEAKER_10]: He is Hayley Stevens, Fiancey, and even before Hayley Stevens made her infamous switch to support Mike Rogers.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Jason Turkish was speaking out against Mike Rogers.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I'm sorry, against a little side.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Here is Jason Turkish, on Fox News, just a few days ago.
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[SPEAKER_13]: worth of a stand right now is that just days before this election, Hayley has made it clear to anyone who will have said that she remains on team dam.
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[SPEAKER_13]: That her only ask, small ask was to say that we not blame all of society's high costs on one group of people.
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[SPEAKER_13]: We spend only a few billion dollars a year.
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[SPEAKER_13]: And I say that in quotes on support for a very strategic ally in the Middle East.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Wait, like, what are you saying quotes?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, if you billiard dollars a year, like.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, he's literally making the argument that, like literally making the argument that even if we stopped supporting Israel actually it wouldn't solve every economic issue.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like that's what he's litigating on air.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's what, that's the, I think, by the way, that she got honeypotted people of different types because they only met three months ago, apparently.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, that's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I didn't know that.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I'll say this, I mean, like minor point, but if I'm a Turkish citizen, I'm marching right now and demanding he changes the last name too.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's really.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's really.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's a Turkish.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's really.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But look, there's so many straw men here because I'm going to say it's not blaming all of society's
problems on one group.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, because a the ad that Hayley Stevens Jason is really are so mad about wasn't even from up to the side and up to the side never said that that all societies problems are the fault of one group and the ad also didn't say.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Even if you were to take the premise that they were blaming all problems on one group, it's not even one group, because they're saying that it's the result of a war, that we've done at Israel's behest, and Israeli interests, which is just true.
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[SPEAKER_10]: The term administration admitted that if you go to the State Department website, they say we launched this operation against Iran at the request of an indefense of Israel.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And we'll be a said, we attacked because we knew Israel was going to attack first.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So that's all there and all these, all the ad did was draw connection between the high costs that ordinary Americans are facing and the cost of the war, that's all it did, which is just factual everyone knows that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And Donald Trump himself said we can't pay for daycare because we have to pay for war.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like he made this point himself that the social safety net is being sacrificed for the war budget, basically.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it's really fascinating.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And by the way, let's keep playing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Let's keep playing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Let's give it back a Turkish.
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[SPEAKER_13]: If we chose not to do that tomorrow, that's not enough money to
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[SPEAKER_10]: no one said otherwise, straw man, it's a straw man anyway, I won't repeat myself, but really, it's just, it's so frustrating when you see people denouncing an argument that their opponents never made.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And I'm very sensitive about this because I feel I have to deal with this a lot in my own, my own line of work.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So it's especially triggering for me.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Turkish is just triggering me, that's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_13]: but yet I do all tell folks that that's what stands in our way and it puts Jews at risk and my phone is just wrong off the hook for days and days now with Jewish friends and family members in Michigan and beyond around the world just besides themselves that it has come to this these are folks who for decades multi-generational families who have participated in democratic politics.
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[SPEAKER_13]: not knowing what to do, not knowing how to solve this equation where we have a nominee who just won't say this is wrong.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So again, what they're really upset about is the fact that this ad put up by Jank Wager accurately pointed out the cost of rising as a result of the war on Iran, which was done in the service of Israeli interests.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And because Abdullah Sayed wouldn't go through
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[SPEAKER_10]: the performance of denouncing an ad, he didn't even put out, which is like a like a like a purity test that is some often demanded of progressives that they jump through every single hoop that Israel first shares demand because he wouldn't do that if people freaked out and lost their minds to a point where they're now willing to destroy Democrats chances or threatened Democrats chances to control the Senate.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's extraordinary and it really vindicates
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[SPEAKER_10]: who said that Israel first is undermining U.S. democracy on top of committing the worst human rights abuses in the world and genocide.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's just extraordinary.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Also, I want to show another thing, which is that this is one of Sally's former staffers responding to Turkish.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And here is what she said about him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Jason is vaporizing Haley's future so that he can be a main character in this moment and it is sad to watch her participate in that he was an extraordinarily toxic presence was verbally abusive to staff and had some of the worst political instincts I've ever witnessed.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Now again, who knows?
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[SPEAKER_11]: This is like a convenient thing to say because you were working for her and it's kind of self-exonerating but a bunch of people have said he was he was toxic.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And very upsetting, and that's why I think a lot of people are saying, you know, that they're worried about her.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And by the way, you know, it's true that she's not she, her, the fact that the staffers have resigned and her chief of staff has resigned is significant because she is a member of Congress and she's staying in Congress until January.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So, you know, they are willing to let her flounder.
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[SPEAKER_10]: All right, well, that's enough of Jason Toxic.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, my God.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Let's turn.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Let's turn to Bernie Sanders, who weighed in on the controversy between Abdul-Assad and Hayley Stevens.
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[SPEAKER_10]: At this point, I'm not sure if it would have been announced that she had already endorsed Mike Rogers, but anyway, yeah, I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Here's Bernie on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Well, in Michigan, there appears some inner democratic party squabbles that are ongoing here around the Senate candidate, Abdul al-Sayed.
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[SPEAKER_16]: There was a back and forth over the weekend with Congresswoman Haley Stevens.
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[SPEAKER_16]: She lost the primary, but she continues to make public her deep misgivings about backing him now.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Siding concerns about his ads and his views on Israel.
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[SPEAKER_16]: At this point, it is the Democratic Party just too divided to pull off a win in Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_16]: It's getting in its own way.
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[SPEAKER_17]: No, I think.
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[SPEAKER_10]: No, I think the, oh, you know, Halley Stevens.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it's kind of a silly question.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's not the Democratic Party that's divided.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's a tiny little faction of Israel firsters who are so toxic.
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[SPEAKER_10]: They're now endorsing the Republican.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's not like a mainstream Democratic position.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It'd be like, oh, should I endorse the Trump ally and hand control of the Senate to Republicans?
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's not a big debate to have the party.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's like a tiny,
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[SPEAKER_10]: a incredibly specific faction that was on the receiving end of 30 million dollars in a pack money.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Jeremy, I will say that he is on to some I mean she is on to something in that there is a debate between look at like how how reluctant you know Schumer and Jeffries are etc to support a dual side but yes but this level of avert of avert rejection of a dual side is where is a fringe thing
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[SPEAKER_11]: Because again, she's a bad politician, like they're better.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They're more talented at undermining their enemies.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They don't just come out and say they're voting for the other guy.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Okay, that's for me.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Very, very close primary.
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[SPEAKER_17]: I can understand being upset about that.
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[SPEAKER_17]: But I think two days before the election, where people all over Michigan understand that this is the most important midterm election, perhaps in the history of the United States.
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[SPEAKER_17]: because we are taking on the most dangerous president that we've ever had somebody who's in or with the target.
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[SPEAKER_17]: With our terrain, there's not believe in the constitution or the rule of law, who wants to give massive tax breaks to billionaires, or 15 million people off that health care, that they had started illegal on constitutional war and all right.
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[SPEAKER_17]: So with the people in Michigan on the central, we have disagreements with Abdul on this entire issue.
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[SPEAKER_17]: But from what I can see,
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[SPEAKER_17]: all over the state, people are standing up, they're going to stand with Abdul, take on somebody, who will be nothing more than a rubber stamp for the Trump administration.
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[SPEAKER_17]: That's Mike Rogers.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Just want to clarify there.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Haley Stevens has been criticizing ads associated in endorsing Abdul Sayed that he has said or not his ads, but she's still criticizing him for it.
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[SPEAKER_17]: But yeah, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_17]: And he had nothing to do with those.
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[SPEAKER_17]: If you want to look at ads in Michigan, I have never in my life seen such disgusting, racist, fear-mongering ads as those that are taking place in Michigan right now.
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[SPEAKER_17]: They are calling a dual-alsaiad who is a medical doctor.
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[SPEAKER_17]: They're calling on my terrorist, a G-hadist, really disgusting things, and the eye, the fact that any Republican would stand behind those horrible ads is a disgrace.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you, Bernie, for saying something that every person should have been putting in their questions and every guest should have been commenting on.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But again, people are so cowardly, I mean, everything is anti-tomitic, this, everything is anti-tomitic, that but when people actually are being racist, as opposed to criticizing Israel, you're not allowed to say it.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, I think in this next clip, we have some examples of some of the smears that I've
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[SPEAKER_16]: rhetoric is extraordinary.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I'll say it would be America's first sitting Muslim senator if he pulls off a win here.
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[SPEAKER_16]: He has been accused though of ties to Assunee Islamist group known as the mother Muslim brotherhood.
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[SPEAKER_16]: He has distance himself.
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[SPEAKER_16]: He has disavowed it.
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[SPEAKER_16]: But I want to play for our viewers something send or cruise.
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[SPEAKER_10]: you know it's so easy to accuse someone of anything.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_10]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like so it's a very it's very disingenuous to use the passive and saying he has been a cute shirt, you know like you know children are accused of also having kudis.
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[SPEAKER_10]: all the time.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It doesn't mean we take the allegations seriously, right?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like, if you're going to, if you're going to share an allegation, that's to be some basis for it.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And in this case, the basis for it is that like, I've do a side sister claimed that their mother when it was in her 20s, a student in Egypt was someone involved in a Muslim brotherhood group.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And then now that's the basis for saying he has ties,
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[SPEAKER_10]: to jihadists and blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's so silly, it's so absolutely silly.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And again, one overlooked aspect of the hypocrisy here is that Trump literally hosted the founding leader of al-Qaeda in Syria at the White House and gave him this perfume.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Now, if you want to go by this like trope about having ties to jihadists, what I quote, that's a pretty blatant example.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But yet, of course, that's never deemed problematic because in this case, supporting the former al-Qaeda with a serious served U.S. of Germany, and actually serves the interest of Israeli hegemony.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So you can't even question it.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But it's not only some of football, but it's also incredibly hit the critical.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I really is.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And also, you know, Margaret, she, she leads with the accusation, and then she begins by saying not that he's denied these connections, or that there's no known evidence, but that he's distant distance himself from it and just about it, which is not accurate.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, let's hear some of the Republicans speak for themselves.
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[SPEAKER_16]: of Texas warned against L. C. had been given any access to classified intelligence if he wins.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Listen Ted Cruz is this.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And if I am correct that he is a passionate supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood, there is a very real risk that Americans will die as a result.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well good news, you're not correct.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So there you go.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I love that call for.
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[SPEAKER_10]: If I am correct in logic, this fake allegation, then this is a problem.
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[SPEAKER_10]: If I am correct.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Michigan does not need a senator who is on the side of the terrorist.
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[SPEAKER_08]: This character out to us, I had can be nowhere near Washington, D.C. Do you think he understands that concept that our rights come from God Almighty?
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[SPEAKER_08]: that Jesus came here for our salvation.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, what's hilarious is that they're a little off-message here, because they accuse him of Sharia law, of supporting Sharia law, which he doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So according to that smear, though, he does think that rights come from God.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's just a different God.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But anyway, I don't really expect this mass old and know that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Sorry, I couldn't.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I shouldn't encourage you.
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[SPEAKER_11]: uh... senator do you think that else i had could actually govern if all right and one more thing is that like this guy's just i mean it's not even old news by now we but yet another theater at right from the same party that claims that around is run by these religious fundamentalists uh... and then we have someone now openly phrasing the death of the separation of the person state okay senator do you think that else i had could actually govern if his colleagues
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[SPEAKER_17]: I mean, I just got to say, we're crews and Trump and Vance and others are saying is disgusting.
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[SPEAKER_17]: It really is.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Again, I don't care if you disagree with Abdul, he believes in Medicare for all, he believes in taxing, billion as fine, you disagree with him on that, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_17]: But that level of racism over absolute racism is frankly disgusting and should
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[SPEAKER_17]: The fact of the matter is that Abdul is running an extraordinary campaign.
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[SPEAKER_17]: And I think what you're going to see is a good victory in Michigan for people will rebel against that type of uglyness.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I appreciate your clarity when it comes to racism.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I do want to point out that some Americans here any criticism of sending aid to Israel and the words that the candidate has used as anti-Jewish hate.
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[SPEAKER_16]: And they believe that that's scapegoating as well.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, just as if, say, you're a passionate supporter of Jim Crow.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_10]: In the 50s and 60s, you might have seen the civil rights movement as a threat to your identity.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So what?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like, it's just, I mean, why do we have to take seriously the fears and the neuroses of people who support genocide?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's the only group in the country where there's so much effort is made to like take their feelings into account.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's very, very,
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, also can you imagine just for one second like if what what two things one is I'm also glad that she's breaking it down because it is so ridiculous like she's not intentionally highlighting how ridiculous it is, but some Americans here any criticism of sending aid Israel and the words of the candidate has used as anti-Jewish hate.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, so she's basically making it clear that people are totally disingenuously or incorrectly conflating, criticizing a genocidal government with being anti-Semitic, but let's keep listening, actually, to what he is to say, and then we'll make another point.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Well, for me, it's a little bit personal.
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[SPEAKER_17]: I am Jewish.
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[SPEAKER_17]: My father's family was wiped out by Hitler.
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[SPEAKER_17]: anti-Semitism is an extraordinarily disgusting and dangerous ideology that has killed millions and millions of lives in the last century.
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[SPEAKER_17]: We cannot tolerate anti-Semitism period.
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[SPEAKER_17]: But the reality is that right now in Israel, you have a right-wing extremist government, a led by Netanyahu, who, in my view, and the view of many experts has, in fact, committed genocide against the
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[SPEAKER_17]: to be critical of a racist extremist government in Israel, and to say that American taxpayers should not spend the nickel supporting that government is not anti-Semitism.
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[SPEAKER_17]: It is attacking a right wing government.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And I was, oh my god, you want to say, I mean, listen, like, sure, Bernie, but honestly, I'm so tired of hearing this, like the fact this even has to be said, you know, like, it's like, imagine someone saying that like, you know, opposing Jim Crow is not anti-whiteness.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like, do we need to say that out loud?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like how long has it been going on for?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Or really opposing
ISIS, the better I think a analogy would be opposing ISIS is not anti.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It's not Islamophobic.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it's just like, like, how many more Palestinian children does it have to kill like before we can stop having to explain that it's not antisemitic to criticize that.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And it's just anyway.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And also, of course, we have to remind people that, you know, well, I think it's what he's made a lot of good points here.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But again, it's not an right-wing government that's like being challenged by any other forces, politically.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like the opposition to Netanyahu, Gotti, Eisencott, as we've reviewed,
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[SPEAKER_11]: which is literally a war crime and terrorism, which employs disproportionate force against civilian populations.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So it's not, you know, it's deeper than just Nanyahu.
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[SPEAKER_11]: But also, you know, when she says that thing about, like, will he be able to govern effectively given the vitriol?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Like, she would never ask that question about, for instance, like someone facing overtly anti-black racism or someone facing anti-Semitism.
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[SPEAKER_11]: like that's just enabling.
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[SPEAKER_11]: That's so messed up, but because it's an Islamophobic thing, because it's someone critical of Israel, she's like basically legitimizes it as an actual political obstacle, as opposed to something that should be condemned.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like how does it do a cycle to take responsibility for other people's bigotry?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_10]: What is it going to do to play Kate their bigotry?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Not like, can you have a party with with like, like, or like, like, what does it say about our democracy that we have open bigots campaigning against the Muslim candidate?
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like that's the question.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, okay, it's just suggesting it's a bad move for him to run because they're a racist.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, can we have a Muslim candidate when there's still people who hate Muslims?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly, right?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I'm sorry to laugh, but it's a joke, start.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, well, speaking of someone willing to spend to spread bigotry, that's the public and Senator Tim Scott.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I might gosh here in a great position to do so we also have been gifted the most radical dangerous weird group of Senate candidates we've seen on the Democrat side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Frankly, in my way, weird.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Wasn't this tried out in 2024 when I think Vice President Kamala Harris.
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[SPEAKER_10]: her running mate, the Minnesota governor, I'm black, not a name.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, yeah, he kept calling like, Republicans weird, like they're weird.
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[SPEAKER_10]: They're weird.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Like, they tried that out.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It didn't really land.
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[SPEAKER_10]: You know, Tim Scott is like refaxing that for the Democrats.
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[SPEAKER_10]: They're weird.
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[SPEAKER_10]: They're weird.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Let's all accept that everyone's a little cookie.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And not sure to go with weird as a disparaging term.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, most wins in the 90s.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Why be normal?
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[SPEAKER_10]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lifetime, you think about Troy Jackson and Maine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said he would have run as a communist James Taloreco in Texas who says that God is non-binary.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He believes in six gingers, but most importantly, he said that white supremacy and capitalism are the same.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You go to Adilsa, El Sayed, and Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's a guy who's cozy's up to terrorism, and both of his parents either supported or helped fund some of them.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Wow, that's well rounded of them, supporting a bathist and a, you know, a fundamentalist terrorist.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So again, I haven't heard that one before that I've got that's parents funded both.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So I'm who's saying, and modern, and that's reflexively false.
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[SPEAKER_10]: We can conclude, but you know, did fund both of some have been laden.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And so I'm who's saying, is there a public
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[SPEAKER_10]: the Reagan administration in the 80s, both Bin Laden and Sam Hussein were big U.S. allies.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So by his own rationale, his party should be excluded.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Just call a fight.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Cause in, you know, and rather than giving like, you know, small donations.
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[SPEAKER_10]: they gave, so I'm with saying a lot of money, weaponry and intelligence to commit chemical attacks against, it's what they run.
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[SPEAKER_10]: The same country that Tim Scott now wants to destroy.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So really, if you take a historical point of view, he's actually still siding with the legacy of Saddam Hussein.
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[SPEAKER_10]: And bin Laden, because bin Laden's group, Al Qaeda is a major foe of Iran.
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[SPEAKER_10]: So again, you just anyway.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I type of being big at any of these people are just massive hypocrites.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_10]: That's my point.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He also, one of my favorites.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, let's let him finish his hit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, incredibly radical candidates.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I bring it home, Christian to South Carolina where the Democrat candidate Annie Andrews was with the pro Defund police squad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She says, let's limit the second amendment men should play women and sports.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Democrats,
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[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I'm going to ask you, he's like talking boy, talking boy, talking boy, talking boy.
01:01:46.508 --> 01:01:47.588
[SPEAKER_11]: Radical dangerous weird.
01:01:47.748 --> 01:01:47.908
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
01:01:48.569 --> 01:01:49.609
[SPEAKER_10]: Radical dangerous weird.
01:01:49.629 --> 01:01:50.109
[SPEAKER_10]: Dangerous weird.
01:01:50.129 --> 01:01:50.809
[SPEAKER_10]: That could be a track.
01:01:50.849 --> 01:01:53.350
[SPEAKER_10]: Radical dangerous weird, rather dangerous weird.
01:01:54.190 --> 01:01:54.410
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:01:54.490 --> 01:01:55.711
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, this is all they have to run on.
01:01:56.151 --> 01:01:56.351
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
01:01:56.691 --> 01:02:01.712
[SPEAKER_10]: It's just painting their opponents as cooks, not talking but issues that actually impact people's lives.
01:02:01.732 --> 01:02:01.992
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
01:02:02.472 --> 01:02:04.653
[SPEAKER_10]: On that front, Republicans have made everything worse.
01:02:04.974 --> 01:02:15.596
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, and Tim, Tim Scott, one of my favorite lines by him or arguments by him was that it wasn't his mom of phobic to bring up that Abdul-Assaiid's middle name with Muhammad, because Tim Scott's middle name is Eugene.
01:02:18.276 --> 01:02:22.797
[SPEAKER_11]: Like, okay, yeah, you have a middle name, it's Eugene, and actually no one ever talks about that.
01:02:23.017 --> 01:02:27.818
[SPEAKER_11]: Like, no one runs ads or attacks you by being like, this guy's middle name is Eugene.
01:02:28.598 --> 01:02:31.499
[SPEAKER_11]: So when that happens, then that's a relevant fact.
01:02:34.056 --> 01:02:37.818
[SPEAKER_10]: OK, should we hear from Congress member Rokana?
01:02:38.178 --> 01:02:39.299
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it's good.
01:02:40.200 --> 01:02:43.041
[SPEAKER_15]: Is Democrat from the progressive wing of the party?
01:02:43.461 --> 01:02:45.843
[SPEAKER_15]: California Congressman Rokana, welcome back to the show.
01:02:45.863 --> 01:02:46.723
[SPEAKER_15]: Good to have you this morning.
01:02:48.464 --> 01:02:49.525
[SPEAKER_07]: Always good to be on, Shannon.
01:02:50.354 --> 01:02:51.575
[SPEAKER_15]: Okay, so let's talk about that.
01:02:51.715 --> 01:02:54.296
[SPEAKER_15]: Add the rebellion pack at getting a ton of attention.
01:02:54.556 --> 01:02:59.718
[SPEAKER_15]: Jonathan Greenblatt of the anti-deformation league says it's a case study in anti-Semitism.
01:02:59.758 --> 01:03:03.900
[SPEAKER_15]: The senior envoy for Europe at the foundation of defensive democracy says it's one of the
01:03:04.785 --> 01:03:14.048
[SPEAKER_10]: Wow, the fraud father himself, Jonathan Gringley, who calls literally any criticism of his real anti-Semitic, says it's like, how is this guy taking seriously?
01:03:14.588 --> 01:03:18.089
[SPEAKER_10]: And I don't know, it's just, hasn't he described it himself enough?
01:03:18.469 --> 01:03:31.132
[SPEAKER_10]: Remember like we've talked about like the stats from the ADL where like you looked at the database of quote unquote anti-Semitic incidents and it's like high school student in Fresno, California, waived Palestinian flag.
01:03:31.312 --> 01:03:32.012
[SPEAKER_10]: Anti-Semitism.
01:03:35.235 --> 01:03:39.819
[SPEAKER_15]: Most anti-Semitic things I've ever seen in a political ad, calling it total madness.
01:03:40.259 --> 01:03:50.148
[SPEAKER_15]: And Brianna Wu, who, by the way, co-founded Rebellion Pack, although she's gone and had nothing to do with the sad says, I would have quit as executive director rather than produce this ad.
01:03:50.168 --> 01:03:53.011
[SPEAKER_15]: A number of your fellow House Democrats have completely condemned it.
01:03:53.750 --> 01:04:03.317
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, we're going to woo woo because why would you quit over a factual ad, the point out that the war in Iran is linked to the high cost for ordinary citizens.
01:04:03.397 --> 01:04:06.039
[SPEAKER_10]: It's just, it's all just so silly.
01:04:07.876 --> 01:04:08.536
[SPEAKER_11]: It's interesting though.
01:04:08.556 --> 01:04:28.314
[SPEAKER_11]: So Brianna Wu with someone who became very super, super pro Israel, super Zionist, but even she has the wear with all this, say she's not endorsing my Rogers because he's awful and he stands against all the things that these people claim to be for, which is defeating Trump.
01:04:28.775 --> 01:04:31.277
[SPEAKER_11]: So it's interesting that she didn't cite that part.
01:04:34.165 --> 01:04:37.628
[SPEAKER_15]: A, LCI needs to be way more unequivocal about that.
01:04:37.688 --> 01:04:40.190
[SPEAKER_15]: Do you condemn the ad and does he need to be more clear?
01:04:42.251 --> 01:04:44.173
[SPEAKER_10]: So we got from, you condemn Hamas to, do you condemn Hassan?
01:04:44.973 --> 01:04:47.835
[SPEAKER_10]: To, do you condemn Hassan's uncle's ad?
01:04:47.855 --> 01:04:48.916
[SPEAKER_10]: Right, do you condemn uncle?
01:04:48.936 --> 01:04:49.837
[SPEAKER_10]: Do you condemn uncle ad?
01:04:49.857 --> 01:04:50.017
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:04:50.097 --> 01:05:03.207
[SPEAKER_10]: Do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you,
01:05:03.613 --> 01:05:03.853
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:05:04.614 --> 01:05:11.560
[SPEAKER_07]: I disagree with the ad and he said that he, a disusual to come on row, can you stand for something?
01:05:12.421 --> 01:05:14.022
[SPEAKER_10]: Why do you have to disagree with the ad?
01:05:14.162 --> 01:05:14.523
[SPEAKER_10]: Why?
01:05:14.923 --> 01:05:15.844
[SPEAKER_10]: What's wrong with it?
01:05:16.324 --> 01:05:25.832
[SPEAKER_10]: Like, if you don't want to, if you don't support the ad, if you don't feel as if that helps your political agenda, I understand, like, I'm very, I actually get politicians a lot of leeway more people than I think.
01:05:26.693 --> 01:05:27.814
[SPEAKER_10]: would think that I do.
01:05:28.314 --> 01:05:31.215
[SPEAKER_10]: It's a different game, politicians are in a different game.
01:05:31.375 --> 01:05:32.136
[SPEAKER_10]: I truly get it.
01:05:32.536 --> 01:05:44.602
[SPEAKER_10]: But if you don't, like, if you don't want to defend the ad, if you don't feel that's worth your political capital, okay, just avoid the question and say, whatever you feel about the ad, whatever you think of it, like that's the melee mouth, like weasel answer.
01:05:44.822 --> 01:05:46.763
[SPEAKER_10]: Whatever you think, the issue is this.
01:05:46.843 --> 01:05:48.484
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know what to go and throw it under the bus.
01:05:48.945 --> 01:06:01.748
[SPEAKER_10]: Right, because it plays into like when you give your disingenuous detractors and opening, they won't accept that they will take a mile, you know, and I wish progress those would learn that by now, yeah, fortunately not here.
01:06:02.288 --> 01:06:06.449
[SPEAKER_07]: Now the ad, but this is a situation different than condemnation.
01:06:06.509 --> 01:06:08.410
[SPEAKER_15]: That's what Congresswoman Stevens is saying.
01:06:08.430 --> 01:06:12.551
[SPEAKER_15]: Disassociation like we weren't responsible for it is one thing condemning it as something different.
01:06:13.535 --> 01:06:25.606
[SPEAKER_07]: I think he said he's disagreees with it, but the issue in Michigan is that we have a war that Donald Trump has started in Iran that is increasing gas prices and diesel prices in Michigan.
01:06:25.966 --> 01:06:29.509
[SPEAKER_07]: And if the Democrats win the House and the Senate, we will stop that war.
01:06:29.770 --> 01:06:32.692
[SPEAKER_07]: We will immediately bring down gas and diesel prices.
01:06:32.972 --> 01:06:37.917
[SPEAKER_07]: So the question between Mike Rogers and Abdul Sayyid is not some independent pack-add
01:06:38.237 --> 01:06:49.740
[SPEAKER_07]: It is, do you want this war to end the day January 3rd after Democrats take back the control of Congress in the Senate, or do you still want hired gas prices and diesel prices at the pump?
01:06:50.300 --> 01:06:52.761
[SPEAKER_15]: Let me ask you about the plan to do that.
01:06:52.781 --> 01:06:55.442
[SPEAKER_15]: You say day one, does that mean defunding operations?
01:06:55.482 --> 01:07:00.063
[SPEAKER_15]: Would you defund US military operations while we have assets in that region?
01:07:01.761 --> 01:07:09.906
[SPEAKER_07]: I would stop the funding, the House and the Senate should stop the funding for any further actions in the Iran war.
01:07:09.946 --> 01:07:14.949
[SPEAKER_07]: That's what we did to stop the Vietnam war and we need to stop this war in Iran.
01:07:15.189 --> 01:07:17.110
[SPEAKER_07]: And by the way, the President can't veto that.
01:07:17.230 --> 01:07:20.472
[SPEAKER_07]: The House and the Senate have the power on the appropriations bills.
01:07:20.933 --> 01:07:24.615
[SPEAKER_07]: If you believe the war should continue, you should vote Republican.
01:07:25.255 --> 01:07:47.012
[SPEAKER_07]: you're really sure if you want to have higher gas prices higher diesel prices president was attacking me yesterday saying among fox news too much he says kind of saying uh... you know doesn't understand we need to continue the war he's a lightweight uh... he should recognize that he's brought the trump is bringing a down nuclear power in the run he's not the right and i think there were a lot
01:07:47.833 --> 01:07:51.077
[SPEAKER_15]: Do you not think that there was an existential threat there?
01:07:51.977 --> 01:07:56.803
[SPEAKER_15]: Because for years, as we know, for decades, Iran has changed to death to America, death to Israel.
01:07:57.372 --> 01:07:58.713
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, really, you know, I've said this before.
01:07:59.433 --> 01:08:02.035
[SPEAKER_10]: Sticks and stones can break my bones, but worth can never hurt me.
01:08:02.115 --> 01:08:07.219
[SPEAKER_10]: So let's say you hear someone chanting something, you know, like, okay, you can say, hey, I don't like that chant.
01:08:07.259 --> 01:08:08.260
[SPEAKER_10]: Can you stop chanting that?
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:09.741
[SPEAKER_10]: Can we discuss the chant?
01:08:10.181 --> 01:08:14.544
[SPEAKER_10]: But you
don't have to include, this is an existential threat and therefore I have the right to destroy your country.
01:08:14.664 --> 01:08:15.565
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, right, chant.
01:08:15.805 --> 01:08:19.588
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if you're gonna choose someone to be an existential threat, you have to come up with something more than a chant.
01:08:20.829 --> 01:08:29.254
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, certainly a channel at rallies and maybe if you're curious about why someone's chanting against you, you might learn about the fact that you're government over through their government.
01:08:29.575 --> 01:08:33.177
[SPEAKER_10]: And I see 53 and then imposed a dictator who was brutal.
01:08:33.717 --> 01:08:40.882
[SPEAKER_10]: And then after the dictator was overthrown, turned to supporting another dictator, Saddam Hussein, as he waged a murderous war on Iran.
01:08:41.223 --> 01:08:45.445
[SPEAKER_10]: And that's why among many other reasons why some people in Iran might say nasty
01:08:47.787 --> 01:08:57.971
[SPEAKER_10]: Even if you don't agree with that historical background or you're interested in it, at the very minute when people chanting things is not in any way an existential threat to the U.S.
01:08:58.391 --> 01:09:03.633
[SPEAKER_10]: Bomb in countries and sanctioning them, that's an existential threat and that's what Iran is facing right now from Washington.
01:09:04.419 --> 01:09:15.029
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, and you know, which is the one that is like talking about, um, uh, wiping entire civilizations and actually bombing that will be Trump with Iran, not short work.
01:09:15.069 --> 01:09:15.289
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
01:09:15.609 --> 01:09:15.989
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
01:09:16.590 --> 01:09:22.575
[SPEAKER_10]: And so it's, yeah, all right, do a more this or, uh, uh, I think we're good, right?
01:09:22.695 --> 01:09:22.976
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
01:09:23.336 --> 01:09:23.476
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
01:09:23.937 --> 01:09:24.277
[SPEAKER_10]: All right.
01:09:24.417 --> 01:09:27.039
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, that will take us to the end of this week's
01:09:28.084 --> 01:09:30.545
[SPEAKER_10]: free election day one day morning.
01:09:31.706 --> 01:09:35.788
[SPEAKER_10]: Haley Stevens gave us a lot of talk about.
01:09:35.848 --> 01:09:40.270
[SPEAKER_10]: So, you know, yeah, I guess we'll turn to some super chats now before we wrap up.
01:09:40.910 --> 01:09:41.631
[SPEAKER_10]: Let's see what we got.
01:09:42.071 --> 01:09:42.411
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
01:09:42.431 --> 01:09:43.872
[SPEAKER_11]: So, my favorite words.
01:09:43.892 --> 01:09:44.592
[SPEAKER_11]: Wow, whoever knows.
01:09:44.612 --> 01:09:45.033
[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you.
01:09:45.593 --> 01:09:45.813
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:09:46.275 --> 01:09:47.116
[SPEAKER_11]: Free power funding.
01:09:47.136 --> 01:09:48.316
[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you so much, P.B.
01:09:48.356 --> 01:09:48.596
[SPEAKER_11]: Wow.
01:09:48.616 --> 01:09:48.997
[SPEAKER_11]: Look at that.
01:09:49.057 --> 01:09:49.277
[SPEAKER_11]: $90.
01:09:49.457 --> 01:09:50.017
[SPEAKER_11]: Wow.
01:09:50.037 --> 01:09:50.537
[SPEAKER_11]: Amazing.
01:09:51.198 --> 01:09:53.519
[SPEAKER_11]: If a duel wins, you expect him to support Ukraine.
01:09:53.579 --> 01:09:56.741
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm a non-interventionist and strongly against helping Ukraine in his real time on.
01:09:56.761 --> 01:09:59.403
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't understand the judge, NAP, endorsement.
01:09:59.883 --> 01:10:03.345
[SPEAKER_11]: Aaron, you answered the Ukraine part and I'll answer the endorsement part.
01:10:03.885 --> 01:10:07.509
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, I do expect, up to the side to continue arming Ukraine.
01:10:07.569 --> 01:10:24.725
[SPEAKER_10]: That is now a position you basically have to have in the Democratic Party as I track in my fourth coming book, their blood are bullets, which were because of so many developments in the U.S. including Russia gate and just overall the mainstreaming of discredited neocons, especially in the Democratic Party.
01:10:26.963 --> 01:10:54.109
[SPEAKER_10]: supporting a proxy war in Ukraine is now, just you have to have that position if you're going to be in the Democratic Party to the point where four years ago, right now, the progressively of the party called for diplomacy and the reaction was so vitriolic that they were attracted and caved within 24 hours, and that sense of less than that simply you just can't advocate diplomacy with Russia if you're going to be a Democrat.
01:10:56.107 --> 01:10:58.328
[SPEAKER_10]: the red line that you have to be as real first.
01:10:58.368 --> 01:11:00.430
[SPEAKER_10]: If you cross that as Thomas Massey did, you're out.
01:11:00.930 --> 01:11:03.912
[SPEAKER_10]: And the Democratic Party, they're a version of that as the Ukraine proxy war.
01:11:04.232 --> 01:11:06.833
[SPEAKER_10]: It's been a disaster as we've talked about a lot.
01:11:07.314 --> 01:11:15.539
[SPEAKER_10]: And Abdullah, it's like if you're coming into the Senate now, Abdullah said you're already vulnerable because of obviously some of phobia against you, the fact that members of your own party.
01:11:16.219 --> 01:11:17.140
[SPEAKER_10]: are throwing you out of the bus.
01:11:17.820 --> 01:11:24.803
[SPEAKER_10]: Politically, you're not going to make the priority to go out on your own and all of a sudden start advocating peace.
01:11:24.924 --> 01:11:34.168
[SPEAKER_10]: And honestly, Bernie Sanders deserves a lot of the blame for that, because Bernie Sanders could have used his cashier in the party, his influence to say, yes, we support diplomacy.
01:11:34.488 --> 01:11:38.991
[SPEAKER_10]: But when progressives call for diplomacy four years ago, or any through the money of the bus.
01:11:39.651 --> 01:11:59.253
[SPEAKER_10]: And Bernie, on the front, has gotten terrible advice, which is not only just been a moral and subjected Ukraine to the ongoing devastation that we're seeing now, and by the way, so much has come out since then about all the opportunities for
diplomacy that were shunned by Ukraine, with the encouragement of Washington, thereby vindicating progressives, but they won't even take that win.
01:11:59.794 --> 01:11:59.954
[SPEAKER_10]: But
01:12:01.095 --> 01:12:02.155
[SPEAKER_10]: Bernie deserves a lot of the blame.
01:12:02.576 --> 01:12:18.961
[SPEAKER_10]: And on top of that, they also, on top of this being a moral, they also had to trump a big gift because by being such warmongers in Ukraine, they gifted trump with the war he could pretend to oppose, even though we actually doesn't really care about bringing peace, even though he says that.
01:12:18.981 --> 01:12:21.542
[SPEAKER_10]: He just cares about winning elections.
01:12:21.802 --> 01:12:24.923
[SPEAKER_10]: And in the meantime, he's been happy to enrich the military industrial
01:12:29.558 --> 01:12:37.460
[SPEAKER_10]: A moral also politically self-defeating because they let Trump take the anti-word lane in 2024 and they paid for that.
01:12:38.140 --> 01:12:39.940
[SPEAKER_10]: And unfortunately, they haven't, I learned a lesson.
01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:42.261
[SPEAKER_10]: And don't expect Abdel aside to lead the way.
01:12:42.581 --> 01:12:50.022
[SPEAKER_10]: Maybe some members of Congress were coming in like some of these progressives who are recently won these DSA members, maybe they'll be a little bit different, but yeah, no.
01:12:50.202 --> 01:12:53.623
[SPEAKER_10]: Don't expect Abdel aside to go against the grain.
01:12:53.923 --> 01:12:55.063
[SPEAKER_10]: And I don't put that on him.
01:12:55.203 --> 01:12:57.124
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm even though I don't agree with it.
01:12:57.384 --> 01:12:58.384
[SPEAKER_10]: I put that on Bernie Sanders.
01:12:58.704 --> 01:12:58.984
[SPEAKER_11]: Wow.
01:12:59.224 --> 01:13:02.266
[SPEAKER_11]: All right, harsh words for burning, not harsh for a duel.
01:13:02.346 --> 01:13:20.298
[SPEAKER_11]: In terms of the judge nap and endorsement, so that was when I interviewed him, we talked about string bedfellows, and he actually said, like on prompted, he said, you know, the hard left and libertarians agree on farm policy stuff on more in peace, and that's why in Michigan I would vote for
01:13:22.199 --> 01:13:31.386
[SPEAKER_11]: So that's what that's a reference to, but I think that even if he is, you know, not great on Ukraine, he will be better on on foreign policy stuff in general, or at least on Israel stuff.
01:13:31.406 --> 01:13:35.249
[SPEAKER_11]: So I think that's why the the the judge said that and I think he hates Mike Rogers.
01:13:35.289 --> 01:13:40.493
[SPEAKER_10]: So yeah, well, as I propose, once we'll interview Dave Smith, this libertarian comedian.
01:13:41.593 --> 01:13:46.077
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, my offer to libertarians was like, hey, like, we'll give you control of foreign policy.
01:13:46.237 --> 01:13:48.179
[SPEAKER_10]: If you let the progress is kind of domestic policy.
01:13:48.199 --> 01:13:48.819
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, exactly.
01:13:48.940 --> 01:13:49.840
[SPEAKER_10]: But they didn't fall for it.
01:13:50.401 --> 01:13:59.128
[SPEAKER_10]: They didn't fall for it because they envisioned, you know, a future in which the government still gives people welfare checks and social security and they can't healthcare to some people.
01:13:59.569 --> 01:14:00.710
[SPEAKER_10]: They can't tolerate that.
01:14:01.130 --> 01:14:03.592
[SPEAKER_10]: But hey, maybe one day libertarians will, well, we'll come around.
01:14:03.632 --> 01:14:07.536
[SPEAKER_10]: It's just like, it's so weird when I hear like libertarians speak about domestic policy.
01:14:07.556 --> 01:14:08.416
[SPEAKER_10]: I have to shut my ears.
01:14:08.476 --> 01:14:08.697
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
01:14:09.317 --> 01:14:17.122
[SPEAKER_11]: No, it's hilarious because the judge literally was like, wow, I think we have to vote for the team said we have to vote for Democrats because they'll rain in or something not rain in but I'm paraphrasing.
01:14:17.142 --> 01:14:21.225
[SPEAKER_11]: They'll rain in the authoritarian in the overall office or in the White House.
01:14:21.345 --> 01:14:22.966
[SPEAKER_11]: And he says, you know, we're going to have to vote for them.
01:14:23.046 --> 01:14:29.951
[SPEAKER_11]: Even though they're going to pass a lot of repugnant or repulsive legislation, he's like, and I think, of course, that taxation is theft, which is hilarious.
01:14:31.628 --> 01:14:35.490
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, we welcome everyone here, including our libertarian friends and our new members.
01:14:35.870 --> 01:14:36.530
[SPEAKER_10]: And our new members.
01:14:36.810 --> 01:14:38.691
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01:14:39.152 --> 01:14:48.316
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01:14:48.876 --> 01:14:50.517
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01:14:51.820 --> 01:14:52.721
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, I let you see.
01:14:53.021 --> 01:14:54.323
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I love a good plan words.
01:14:54.603 --> 01:14:55.524
[SPEAKER_10]: Bernie panders.
01:14:55.584 --> 01:14:56.385
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, I'm for sure.
01:14:56.405 --> 01:14:57.006
[SPEAKER_11]: That is good.
01:14:57.046 --> 01:14:58.327
[SPEAKER_10]: That is for all the credit.
01:14:58.407 --> 01:15:00.930
[SPEAKER_10]: We give Bernie and he deserves so much credit.
01:15:01.050 --> 01:15:04.133
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, he's advanced to progressive cause in this country so much.
01:15:04.173 --> 01:15:05.574
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't want to take that away from truly.
01:15:06.055 --> 01:15:07.076
[SPEAKER_10]: I truly appreciate it.
01:15:07.096 --> 01:15:09.519
[SPEAKER_10]: Like he's 2016 campaign was historic.
01:15:09.979 --> 01:15:12.060
[SPEAKER_10]: He'll always get credit for that from me.
01:15:12.421 --> 01:15:15.783
[SPEAKER_10]: He put Medicare for all on the map, like no one else ever has.
01:15:15.823 --> 01:15:17.924
[SPEAKER_10]: And that alone is a huge contribution.
01:15:17.964 --> 01:15:24.168
[SPEAKER_10]: But unfortunately, when it comes to war and peace, sometimes unfortunately, even Bernie panders.
01:15:24.328 --> 01:15:29.492
[SPEAKER_10]: And he has to be called out for that, just as much as we honor all the contributions and positives.
01:15:30.232 --> 01:15:30.652
[SPEAKER_10]: He's done.
01:15:30.812 --> 01:15:32.614
[SPEAKER_10]: Do we have any more superchets before we go?
01:15:33.374 --> 01:15:34.215
[SPEAKER_11]: I think that's it, right?
01:15:34.475 --> 01:15:34.835
[SPEAKER_11]: Let's see.
01:15:34.855 --> 01:15:35.475
[SPEAKER_11]: Did we get any more?
01:15:39.776 --> 01:15:41.964
[SPEAKER_11]: All right, cool, don't know what that means, but I like it.
01:15:42.225 --> 01:15:43.750
[SPEAKER_10]: That means it's about Haley's even, so.
01:15:44.212 --> 01:15:44.794
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, got it.
01:15:45.115 --> 01:15:46.239
[SPEAKER_11]: Goober the Mac, yeah, agree.
01:15:47.400 --> 01:15:49.981
[SPEAKER_10]: OK, I don't get it, but hey, we'll take it.
01:15:50.721 --> 01:15:54.342
[SPEAKER_10]: That will do it for Monday morning, Katie, anything you want to plug for the Katie Helper Show this week?
01:15:54.442 --> 01:15:54.962
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, Tuesday.
01:15:55.342 --> 01:16:00.703
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, tomorrow, it's going to be actually at APM instead of 7pm at youtube.com such as the Katie Helper Show.
01:16:00.723 --> 01:16:03.684
[SPEAKER_11]: But we're going to have a great stream election night stream.
01:16:03.704 --> 01:16:06.185
[SPEAKER_11]: We're going to react to the results.
01:16:06.505 --> 01:16:14.267
[SPEAKER_11]: And talk not to just about the domestic implications, but the farm policy ones, and we're going to have on guests like Diana Boutou and also
01:16:15.547 --> 01:16:34.318
[SPEAKER_11]: uh... david ceroda uh... probably some of the due dissidents guys uh... freddie g joining us from michigan isha uh... joining us from michigan who is also running for congress uh... and and many more on time is frank time is frank and by so yeah youtube dot com slash the kd help for show eight p.m. Tuesday night
01:16:35.755 --> 01:16:38.857
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, listen, liberal, go listen to Thomas Frank.
01:16:38.917 --> 01:16:41.379
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm watching a very great book by Thomas Frank.
01:16:41.399 --> 01:16:42.880
[SPEAKER_10]: And he actually has a new book out, I think.
01:16:43.180 --> 01:16:43.681
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, he does.
01:16:43.721 --> 01:16:45.022
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, which I'm looking forward to reading.
01:16:45.182 --> 01:16:48.564
[SPEAKER_10]: All right, so that's Tuesday, 8 o'clock at the Katie Helpers Show YouTube.
01:16:49.085 --> 01:16:51.927
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01:16:51.967 --> 01:16:55.009
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01:16:55.449 --> 01:16:57.091
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[SPEAKER_11]: Bye, everyone.