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riverside magic episode 01 twin reverberations: You're listening to the Twin Reverberation podcast. Anyway, Mikey, good to see you. Yeah. so tell me a little bit about Scott Ramsey before he gets on. N not only is he like a virtuoso guitar player, but he's he's like a walking jukebox. He has so many songs committed to Memory. Memory and he can play like He just has such a command of the instrument he can play any song idea. But i the real kind of cool thing about Scott, he does have some you know, connection to our g last guests. Right. But they now correct me if I'm wrong, they were both in the decline of Western Civilization part deh. Well, he was in it with Matt Duncan. Wait, Ramsey was in it with Matt Duncan? Yeah. But Matt Duncan was also in it with in the Odin scenes, no? n I don't think Matt was in the Odin. He's in the Man on the Street interview talking to I guess Penelope. Well, and he had like wild red hair. He's from Scotland originally and moved here when he was a little kid. That's fantastic. So and Glendale. Okay. that's how he knows the all the Duncan boys. He grew up with them. And he's like I said, he he has really mastered the Art of the Tribute Act. Right, and he's not in just one, obviously, as you're saying. He's in Right. Like I said, we have we have friends who do one and they're just amazing at it. This cat has a maiden tribute. Maiden, okay a Judas Priest tribute, the priest. A Gloria Estefan Miami Sound Machine tribute. What? A pink tribute. Get the f what? Obviously, a pseudo tribute. And let's just get on. Let's bring Let's do it. Welcome to Watch Wind Reverberation. You're listening to the Twin Reverberation Podcast with Christopher and Michael Ruzucci. Stepped right out into it. We were just mentioning that you were born in Scotland, so actually no, but I am from Scotland. I am from Scotland I should have but my parents had bigger dreams. They wanted to live in America. And the Scottish doctor said, last year, no getting on a plane and she's like, I won't and she got on a plane and came to America and had me in Hollywood. fucking anchor, baby, Yeah, baby. Yeah. And then stayed here for three weeks and then Yeah, to no, I'm legal, my friend. And then I went over to Should we queue up the born in the in the USA music? Born in the U. Yeah. But seven years Seven years in Scotland and then came across baby over here celebration, white white American baby coming through and there you go. Beautiful. Dude, a lot of people, you know, may find themselves trying to get into a tribute act. You've gotten yourself into like seven hundred of them. So you know, I'm I'm exaggerating, of course, but what do people need to understand about The business of being in a tribute band, the business of tribute acts and the whole process. And I mean don't don't don't leave anything out. I mean, talk about the booking process, the how you get yourself out there, et cetera, et cetera. What people are looking for. well, first of all, I did not go looking for this. I was a a metalhead. I was touring with my own metal band. and then, you know, around two thousand Music was just so weird. there was the nineties rock was kinda going out and metal and then there was like this and then you guys know you lived through it. There was so many different things going on and then LA just turned into a fucking ghost town. there was nothing. And so I did cover work and Yeah, and I did cover work and I I was like, Wow, I'm I'm really and I worked at Disneyland. I was the guitar player for the LA Lakers for about a year and a half and although, you know, Disneyland, wow, how prestigious, it was still bare bones money. You know. and and I actually I I'll tell you later, but I got fined by the NBA for playing really Yeah, yeah, I I'm a huge Bulls fan and at the time Lakers versus Portland was a big deal and My boy Scottie Pippen was was shooting a free throw and I I'm I got to play at Staples with a a full martial stack and they never mic'd me and I got to play as loud I've never been this loud. Because I was playing for first twenty thousand people and I had a delay and I had this really weird delay feedback going on and I was doing it when he was shooting a free throw and the bass player who was on the headset Immediately went, Hey, by the way, tell the guitar player he just got fined 300 bucks. And I was like, it was like my second third game. And I'm all, what did I do? And the bass player looked over at me like I should have known and said, Well, NBA law rule specifically state no noise can be made by the band or a sound system during a free throw. It's only the crap. And I went. How in the fuck am I supposed to know that? This is my third game. Yeah. So anyway, I was looking for something else. I was looking for something else, and I kept seeing tributes popping up. And I started thinking, wow, I should look into this because instead of working for five sets, you know, I could do 90 minutes, and you know, there's you're playing music people There's a there's an already a generated audience. So I investigated it and I started really doing research on research what I should tribute, not just getting one. and the first thing I tried to do was a a Dio band, but a Ronnie James Dio band, but with a female singer, 'cause at that time the the female fronted tributes were just getting started. Like before that, and you guys know, if you were tributing a band, it had to be what the band was. If you're doing kiss, it's four guys. Right. Well, and in the makeup and all the output and all that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. So I tried to do a deal thing with a girl and it was just a bit too early. And that one before the Iron Maidens and all that, right? Well, they were already going, but they were I mean, they were kind of a a very unique niche 'cause it was five girls just said We're gonna play Maiden and maybe because it's it's five girls, people came out to see and they are now, you know, the top
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draw tribute band. I mean, last year they went to Vacan in Germany and played a metal festival. Yeah. So good for them. Yeah, the big ups on them. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So after that I was right, Okay, I gotta put some thought into what am I gonna tribute? What isn't out there, especially in LA. So And as we know in in LA it's a Black Sabbath, it's an Aussie, it's a Pat Manitar, and a Led Zeppelin. There's eight Jillion of them. And I I decided on the artist Pink. And so a really good a really good friend of mine, Kimsy McGrath, who is my my girl, you know, I I came up to her with the idea and we put together a pink tribute called Raise Your Glass, like the song. And if you've ever seen Pink Live, you'll realize she's a rock stuff. She's not a little play the track and I'll dance. there's a there's a lot going on though. There she is there's a lot happening in her show. absolutely with the trapeze, but she's got a Justin Derrico is a monster guitar player, the drummer, the bass player. It's a rock band Yeah, yeah, it's a rock band. Yeah, it's a rock band. Yeah. So when we put that together and we hit it off right off the gate. I was getting a lot of attention because there was nothing on the West Coast that I think there was one girl in the northeast that was doing it, but she was playing the tracks. And we were bringing you know the whole band plus two backing vocalists, kind of like how Pink does it. So you had the stacked harmonies. You know. and so that went really well. And then the agents really paid attention to that and then I started actually getting calls from agents who went, Wow, this is great. No one has this. And I felt like a a guy at a barbecue who was making all the hamburgers then because everyone was like, Hey, can you make me a Katy Perry band? And I was like, let's make a Katy Perry band. And that was the next flavor and that blew up. It was really was great. Now after that it was every six, seven months another agent would call me with a need. not to interrupt you, Scott, but the the agents were giving you they were letting you know what where the need was and you were like, Okay, I'm gonna fill it. They were saying, Hey, look, I exactly you know what would sell. Yeah, exactly. Gloria Stephon and the Miami Sound Machine band. Yeah, and that's exactly what happened. We were getting calls and these agents were like, Hey, you know what? I need a I need something Latin and poppy. So I went online and did my thing and who who could how could you ignore Gloria with over thirty five number one hits? That blew up and then I had like my little assembly line of how to build the demo and I'll and I'll talk about that. But then that got going and then you know, Mike Michael was very helpful in the next step of just always always listening to who's around you and what they need or what could be cool. And Michael and I had a a jam one night and we just started talking about what if we tributed a year. And I was like, What about and it was
very crazy because I was like, What about eighty three? And before I could get the number three out of my mouth, r Michael read off thirty hit songs from that year. In my face every year. But he went and I went home and then at three in the morning he sent me a text and went, Hey, I got the band. I got the band together. We got it. And so I thought that would be a fun thing and lo and behold, the agents loved it because it wasn't the same A C D C for three hours. It's a time machine it's time capsule. You're you're here. some stuff for a nineteen eighty three stage show. Don't don't you threaten me with a good time. No way. That would be fan exactly freaking tastic. Yes. There's just so there are so many things that could make people go like, holy shit, I feel like I just walked back in time. man. Yeah, I dude, we're gonna we're gonna talk. I would love it. and then what was really great about it, as this was going, these agents were also helping me avoid the potholes where not to be an opportunist, but anytime something happened in in in entertainment, you wanna ask the question, Hey, what about should I do this? one point was sadly when Meatloaf passed away I was like, Wait a minute, maybe I should do that and I had three agents said, Scott, don't do it. It's not gonna sell. So I didn't. Which imagine putting together a tribute and then Not finding any work. No, I mean especially with Meat. Meat is so over the top. I mean, there's so much involved in the music and there's so much involved in the show. Also, I mean Meat be because he wasn't a this massive touring musician, whenever there was a show it was as theatrical as anything he'd you know learn from his days in theater. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and and those guys helped me there because I would have been full into like let's make this happen and then luckily I I dodged a bullet. So and then so so the method I had was at the very beginning with Pink, we were trying to do the tried and true thing of playing gigs and somehow garnishing some some decent video. And it was hard. It was really hard because you're in a dumpy bar trying to get a great video or an audio that matches and it never lined up. So we had an audio an audio demo that we had and I said, just give me all the B roll you have, slam it together for a minute thirty, we'll collage you with the audio we had recorded and let's see what happens. And that got me gigs like you wouldn't believe. And then with that You go back and you get the better video and you get the better audio and you build it. But you know, you when opportunity knocks, you gotta be ready. Wha what kind of investment are we talking about for this you know, shooting some videos and getting it done. Right. Well now now that I've I've kinda got my assembly line of who to go to go and and again this is my this is my method. Everyone has different methods. But I've got an I've got an audio I got a video guy. films us for around five six hundred dollars. Five, six hundred dollars. And then I have locations, either a studio in Camarillo that you get up and you play and they film you with three cameras. And you could go there and rent the room out for seven hundred and fifty dollars. and then you know you get I've got two other guys that will do the guys that will do the video editing for another five. So you're looking around twelve to eighteen hundred bucks to get it done right. And then how much money would you make? How long would it take to make that money back for the one gig? Well, you know what? You gotta pay the musicians. What do you mean? Yeah. Yeah, you gotta pay the musicians and and and what I I I learned very quickly was I gotta keep my nucleus, my band fam There's a lot of guys that make the mistake of taking all the money and then paying everyone in the band a hundred bucks. And I went no, what we're gonna do is we're gonna take every gig and I'm gonna divide it by say nineteen eighty three. I divide it by five. Everyone gets a cut. No one feels left out. But then there's a sense of ownership among the players. And then if if we gotta sweat Yeah, and if we gotta sweat a gig, we do it. And if we make big money, we do. And then if there's something that has to do, every everyone's down for the long instead of where's my paycheck? but normally a concert in the park during the summer during the summer has has gone up before it was around twelve. But right now, good cities, you're getting paid between two and three thousand dollars a show for ninety minutes. You're listening to the twin reverberation podcast with the Rizucci Brothers. Well it's good times. I mean it's yeah it's great it's great times, man. It it it really is is fabulous. And and you know it's the community around here is I mean it's a lot more tight knit than I think people give it credit for. LA has this really accepting music community. If you come in and you prove that you're pr a good player. And that you're serious about it. people are really accepting and willing to have you come in and start playing almost right away. And I think I might not remember the first song that we played together, do, but I do remember that almost immediately when I decided that I wanted to kind of get back into playing music again, you know, going back fifteen years or so, that when I played with you, we're like, dude, pfft come on, let's start a band. Let's not talk about it. Let's just fucking do it. Let's do let's do this right now. And and that's and that's a motion even with my my metal band, it was called Raising Sons, and we released we I we were on indie label and actually got an advanced before that those dried up, but we toured and that was I came down, we auditioned, they liked me, and then the next two days it was we never were apart for seven years. 'Cause it was just like, Hey, let's do this. Okay, let's go right now. Okay, let's do a record, let's go tour, let's do a T V commercial. And it it just it just when you have no resistance, you
gotta take advantage of it. 'Cause there's sometimes bands sometimes it's just like can we just can we all just go to rehearsal? Why does everyone have to flake and when you get those magical moments you gotta you gotta take advantage of it. No, I dude, you're you were really connected with the Duncan brothers. You saw Odin kind of from from a really unique shit. Where are we going with this? Where are we going with this? Here's where here's where we're going. You you're you you're you're a kid, you're a teenager, and you you are hanging out with these guys. You're seeing the strip through a sort of a different lens. One through you know, because you're you're attached to these guys who have a lot of popularity and notoriety and they've got a lot of access to stuff. When you're graduating from high school, are you thinking career in music or are you thinking no, I'm gonna go to college and I'm gonna get my you know get a degree and I'm gonna make sure that's a great question. So this was this was an epiphany moment. when I was playing I and I grew up in Glendale playing, I was around a bunch of guys, older guys, that just did not give me any respect. I was the young kid, maybe I was faster than they were. I never got a compliment. I've never fished for a compliment and I'm and I'm glad that I went I went through that hardship instead of you know, please someone say I did something good because I had that fuck you mentality, I'm just gonna play me. I'm gonna I'm gonna play like me. but they were really harsh to me. And I went through my channels and channel god, I was nineteen in college getting my electronics degree. And but then I got offered a gig with an Armenian guy who I guess had something in Armenia, he was a big deal, and he asked me to play the American Armenian American Autumn Gold Festival in Pasadena. And I said, sure, it would it was my very first paid gig. And it was just 80s rock, you know, the the the time. And I thought, okay, it's gonna be in the parking lot like the Rose Bowl Swap Meat. And I show up and I'm not kidding you. She had the stage inside the Rose Bowl. And they play they set it up inverted so he played to the back end thirty thousand people. Wow, dude. And I How much did he pay you? I got I'm not kidding, but it was the it was it was the best hundred dollars I've ever made. Now this was in the eight. I was nineteen that was pretty good. Right. That's pretty good. Yeah, man, for one gig. everything came into I mean, I laser focus. I walked off stage. I was hyperventilating. I couldn't stand. I was throwing up because I just couldn't believe what I had just done. I was sitting behind the stage, squatting, you know, from my days, you know, or playing basketball or football. I was I was gaped. And I was like, this is the greatest tie I have ever had in my life. And that night I worked at a bank, I made my decision I'm gonna play music. But ironically, as I'm driving my little Nissan truck out of the Rose Bowl, who is standing holding on to the fence didn't get in to see the show. were the three guys in my neighborhood that always fuck with me. And they looked at me and they said, Scott, Scott, what are you doing? And I wasn't bragging because I was still on high, but I went I just played the fucking Rose Bowl. So here the guys that made fun of me like a TV show. TV show I was able to like you know, and then that night I was at working at the Bank Allan at the Bank Allan. Told my parents I'm gonna play guitar. I'm gonna play guitar I am I I'm chasing this high again. I'm I I'm not I'm not letting go. I'm going. And I relate I can see even though I've never done a drug in my life I can see why rock stars stars do drugs because they are truly trying to get that high again of their first time on a big stage. I get it. Yeah. And when you hear to Tommy Lee Nikki Six saying, I don't remember nineteen eighty seven. I was I was lost for that hour I was on stage. I I can't remember a thing. It's amazing. It's awesome. I was picked up by a a Russian rock opera girl and I went to Europe for a tour. And the jet lag was I go to I go on to Scotland, but for some reason getting into the Netherlands, I was a mess. And I and then I missed our connecting bus. And then we were on a train and we were trying to find our way to the vent. It was almost spinal tap. And we found the venue. I was up for twenty nine hours and I played three shows in three countries. Never had a drug. I don't even remember it at all. I don't remember Tilburg. I don't remember anything. And then my buddy's like I'm like, Where are we? We're in Dresden. What happened to the Netherlands? You were great. It's Tuesday. It's Thursday. I'm like, my God. So Imagine being drunk and high and chasing girls like Montley Crue and those guys. You can imagine the whole year goes away. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Years go away. Yeah. Years go away. Yeah. But it was it was nice to you know, Matt Duncan is one of my closest friends for the longest time and he's the younger brother of Sean and Jeff. And through that connection, you know, I know you had Jeff on the show. it it's it's been great to be able to be around those guys. My band Raising Sons and the Duncan Brothers band DC four shared a room together, a rent in R Nightingale Studios. and it was it was great to have that level of veteran experience. Just to you know, not ask the question, but you're just you're just getting it. You're getting all you know, the stories and what not to do and what they did and I'm just Mentally going, okay. Yeah, won't do that. So I love that, dude. I know you're talking about the old Nightingale, but it's it's always good to give a shout out to Nightingale. Mike Nightingale. My God. Mike Nightingale, I think he's half time here, halftime in Thailand. he has been a Godsend. yeah, all my tributes, we started at Nightingale. You know? Yep. Love Nightingale. Yeah. Nightingale's cool. I was just there for three hours earlier today, actually.
Ki with a little kiss, were you, sir? I I was, yeah. We're we're we're getting back in there. It's G Money likes to say, kicking the dust off, man. We're not in the dust. Kiss seventy seven, baby. That's that's it. That's that that that's my jam. I think you guys are great. Yeah. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. You know, there's been some great bands. who have surprised me over the past five, six, seven years, whatever. I thought rock and roll was dead. It's just it doesn't it just doesn't get the respect it used to. That's that's the difference. I mean there's still rock bands and there's still bands out there kick your ass, but th it just doesn't get the respect it used to. rock rock and roll just doesn't look like it used to. It really doesn't and and do you think it's 'cause of social media, everybody wants I want it now. There's no urgency to by the record absorb all the tracks, not just one. You know? Yeah. And I also think that radio you know, I I don't want to poo poo, you know, iHeart or anyone else, but you know, when have a massive corporate owner and you're doing massive deals with record companies and massive deals with brands, the playlists start to shrink and all of a sudden the the number of artists who are, on their airwaves are r really getting the attention from record companies, et cetera, et cetera, are people who already have a built in audience. Like it's right. It's tough. Not everybody is a di is a Danny Wimmer who's like got a big rock festival all over the world. His rock festivals do great, by the way. Correct. But that's not But I still I'm still kinda like trying to sc I'm scratching my head on on how people are getting right turned on. I and what's ironic is if you look at the biggest musical star in our time right now, right now, they have exactly what we grew up loving was the passion for every song to know what the lyrics meant, look at their artwork and She is the only one that stands out with a catalog that people want to absorb and it's so massive, is why Taylor Swift is the biggest singer in the world. Because she has Swifties who buy not one song, they buy the whole record, they buy her lyric book. They they are exactly what we were about our our bands back in the eighties. We we didn't buy one song. We were we were in it to win it the whole record. So there you go. Yeah, I mean I think it's it's it's just interesting because you you if you follow the evolution, it's you know, the fifties and sixties are just mostly a singles driven marketplace and forty fives are kind of the big thing. And once you get an an a few singles that are really great, then you'll put an LP out. Or maybe it is that. Maybe it's revolver is what kind of you know, is the catalyst or FM album to really get out there. But it's it's FM. I mean it's FM radio. It's FM radio's idea of being able to be rock or first oriented rock oriented. top forty was still AM radio primarily. And you know, it's albums become important. Why? Because the the fucking DJ is stoned out of his brain and he's putting on fucking side two yeah man, side two, you know, of this album, whatever it is. He doesn't care. He's just gonna put it on and and and go for it. But you know, then the next big C changes T V a and it becomes but you're kind of back in the singles driven era you know, just because videos are so one hit wonders. Yep Yeah. Yeah. But but what's great about here's what's great about MTV. What MTV is also doing when they're playing that single is they're marketing the album by telling you that the t the artist name, the song that you're listening to right now, the album that it comes from, and the record label that they are on. And eventually the director of the video. Right. Eventually they do have methods. Listen, it was such a perfect fucking storm at the beginning because it yeah they needed content and if you had anything, yeah, you were gonna get massive rotation. a band like Loverboy from Canada, they were not gonna have big American hits until those videos came down here. Yeah, and then you had the videos. You said it right on the book. You said it right. What do you have right now will play it because let's look at the early videos. There was no concept to what the song was about and the lyric. one of the greatest bullshit videos to song, Aha's Take On Me, greatest sketch cartoon thing ever. It has nothing to do with the song. But tell me you can't forget that video. Come on. Guy who's in the he's in a deli, he gets thrown into black and white. Come on. It's amazing. watch the screaming in the night video sometime. yeah, that's that's that's epic. When they're stepp stepping in the cereal when he's when he's walking down the counter in the diner. It's just there's something about bands from that area of the world. They like to set their videos inside diners. Because that's the easiest set there is. Is that why they can get a control? I got a dinosaur. You guys you wanna use the fucking dinosaur, yes and no. Yeah. Yeah, because we'll make it work. We'll make it fucking work, okay? Yeah. yeah, 'cause when you're outside, it's it's a wild environment. A great spontaneous thing that they didn't think people would get into was the Rocky movie when he's running down the street and that was an impromptu film, a guy threw him an apple, kids are chasing him and they're filming it, and it made Yeah. that's the spontaneity, but they could have been throwing rocks at him too. So, you know. Gotta be careful. Gotta be careful. Yeah. Yeah, he's he's certainly he's a little shorter in real life than he is, you know, that big massive persona that he has. absolutely. we love Sly. I'm I can't I can't knock Sly. What are you talking about? I can't knock knock him. I the guy's the king, bitch. He went home and wrote and wrote wrote that movie in a week. Come on. The guy's a G not only did he write it in a week. Fucking Academy Wolf War, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and one of my favorite Rocky movies,
I can't believe I'm I'm I'm with you guys talking about Rocky, but his portrayal of the overweight New Jersey cop and cop land. fantastic. Yeah, of course, man. Robert De Niro, give me a break, dude. That movie was ridiculous. You're listening to the Twin Reverberation Podcast with the Rizucci brothers. Yeah, First of all, no you are in a movie that way. We didn't even get to the part where you were in the decline of the Western civilization part two. I I keep my hands up because I knew the punch was coming and you still hit me in the mouth. So well played. Listen, you have to I this it's a legend, legendary, legendary too funny. Yeah, I was thinking about how are they gonna How are they gonna get me? When you said the Duncan brothers, I was like, all right. He's gonna throw it. And you didn't. yeah. I was I was in this fun movie. I wasn't really in it. I was passers by. So but yeah, I was in. Well you're you're part of the man on the in the street interview. I'm not, I mean, it's a camera that's running by. And it's Matt Duncan and I and I he Matt, I think, yells the name of his band into the thing, and that was it. And then what makes that so ridiculous is and you've guys seen the movie, right? Well, of course. Okay. So Penelope did a great job in the first one in investigating the punk movement. Decline. I would I would recommend to anybody watch Decline One. Yeah, if you haven't seen it, it's so don't see two. They did a third one and I forget what's that on, but that first one, the punk one, that was real. that was a real deal. It was very good. The second one, other than Odin was in there, there's a couple good bands in there, but all the personalities they interviewed, those people weren't fucking I never saw them on the strip. Those people didn't exist. They had found those guys somewhere and plugged him in, in my opinion. Yeah, I was on the street and they filmed me. And for people who have heard of the script back in the day, it used to get so packed on the sidewalk from the whiskey up to I think it's called One Oak now, but it used to be Gazari's. It was so packed on a Friday, Saturday that the LA sheriffs would actually bring in horse detail to like riot control and push you onto the sidewalk. They were actual friends of mine for a long time. Yeah, and friends of mine are like, They never had horses. I'm like, the hell they didn't. They had freaking horses. You have one of the best Sunset Strip hanging out young guy on the strip stories I have ever heard. And I'm not sure I'm not sure that Chris has ever heard this story. okay. But I know I know he's going to think that this That this story is absolutely fucking bananas. Is it involving a leaf saying? Yeah, absolutely. One hundred percent. Okay. Well, okay, so I'm I am I'm probably maybe seventeen. What year are we talking about here? this would have been everyone's gonna know how old I am. god. eighty four, eighty five, okay around I'm dude, I am easily maybe the height of a table. I
am a short little guy with really my hair is long now, but it was bright red, it was goofy. I look like a fucking poodle. and I drive down there with my mom's Pinto wagon and I park it and I I'm too young, I'm too small to go into any club, but I'm walking the streets talking to people because this is the rock This is the rock area. I'm looking at yeah, I'm looking at girls going, that girl's gotta be at least thirty five years old. She was seventeen. But right. It was like she was fully developed. So I'm just going, Wow, look at the way look at the way the girls are dressed. Man, these guys are all rock stars. I'm just wearing jeans, a denim vest, and long hair. I I was just nobody. Anyway, I'm walking up and down the strip, and if for the people who don't know, as you go up the strip, you've got the whiskey and you get a long walk. And then you come to Roxy, which used to be another great venue. Now it's rarely open, which is right next to the Rainbow famous bar. And there's a driveway between the two. And I'm walking past it. And you know, I'm so young, I'm afraid to even step onto the driveway of the rainbow to have some guy yell at me, hey kid, you can't come in here. You know, I'm like a nervous wreck. I get to the corner and I'm just looking, I stop to look like maybe I'll catch a star. And then there's this influx of people behind me. There's a fight, and they all rush all the way down the rainbow driveway. And I'm in the front. I'm getting hit by a tidal wave of people. I'm just being pushed. And we go all the way to the back. So behind the the rock seat is a parking lot. And like a movie, I'm telling you, this was set up. It turned into a fighter ring of people in a big circle. Like something you'd see in a movie. the director goes, Okay, we're gonna have a big fight here. And I But everybody make a circle. Yeah, and I'm in the front looking like, man, what's gonna happen? this is crazy. And this biker guy comes out and I I would love to go back in time and see how really big he was. I thought he was six nine. But maybe he was six one. You know all I know is I'm looking up like this at the guy. He comes out, big guy. Harry's shoulders, just like, I'm gonna kick this ass. Pardon the French, but that's what he said. I'm gonna brutalize who the where is he? And he's stomping in the driveway. And then where everyone's looking at the rainbow like who is he talking about, right? Coming out out of the shower with no sense of urgency is David LeRoth. And he has got a he's got a blonde under each arm. And I I try to r I got a good memory. I'm pretty sure he was still well, he was wearing spandex. he had outfit like stage gear on, white leather vest, you know, no shirt. Maybe a rolled bandana neck thing. That's it, hair down. He comes walking out, casual, as as if he was on a s a stroll the beach. And he goes, Hold on, ladies. Wait right here for Dave. This is only gonna take a minute. And he walks out he walks out into the ring of the ring and everybody it's it's dude, it is the perfect movie scene. Everyone's whispering. my god, it's terribly. Holy shit, my god, my god. I'm I'm now I don't even remember what the blondes look like. I'm sure they were fantastically hot, but I was so Of course come on. We were just like No way And this guy's like mouth off, I'm gonna fucking kill you. I'm gonna kill you. And Dave's just kind of jolly and kind of bouncing and goes, Okay, bro, it's your funeral, right? And this guy comes up trying to square off with Dave. He didn't get two steps in, and Dave throws a turnaround roundhouse kick. Fucking crushes him in the in the jaw and he goes down. Boom. And like a movie, everybody just went. Holy shit. And then he just turned around to the girls and went, Hey everybody, come on inside, drinks are on date. And he walks back into the rainbow. Classic. And everyone, everybody. Everyone breaks on Dave. Everyone piles in there. I'm at the bottom bar and I get handed a beer and a Jack Daniels. Okay? And I am I am sho there's way too much stimulation. It's just too much. I can't handle it. So I felt out of place I'm way shorter than a bar stool I'm holding alcohol I'm underage everything's running through my brain I just saw a fight the cops are gonna come I put down. I I gotta go. I gotta get out of here. And I went out to my car and drove up. But that's that's my David Le Rod story. Wow. I mean it's absolutely amazing. You know it's so funny. I think I've heard this fucking story from somewhere else. Yeah. Yeah, it it's unbelievable. So that's a it's a le it's a that's a legendary story that happens to be true 'cause he knocked that dude that dude never saw it coming 'cause he he likes he he turned right to set up for a punch. So the guy kinda turned like, Okay, what are you gonna throw? And then the kick just Whoo Why and not not even bring the shit. Right. And then come on, ladies, let's go back inside. It was like it was awesome. Where was I at? Yeah, man. Before I was so rudely interrupted. Exactly. Somebody bring the coke. Where's the coke? I was talking to ten gentlemen about this just the other day. This guy interrupts me, bumped my elbow. Whatever. But man. That's so good. Crazy. Crazy stuff. He did so good. Yeah, that's a good one. All so talk to us. What is up? What's new? What's next? What can we help you promote? Yeah. my god. well, there's a fantastic band I'm in called 1983. probably has one of the greatest bass players in town that you'll ever know him. Not only does he play bass, but you gotta hear this guy sing. I mean, my god. I've heard him. Wait, hold on. I got I got I got the cue card that Ruzucci told he is one of the greatest bass players in town. Hey read it again. It's it's it's the why why'd you put a one in promotion? Yeah. why'd you put a one in the Yeah, eighty three is gonna come back. you know, Maiden is is coming back. right now the tribute scene, everything is kinda quieting down. November December tends to get a little slow. more variety cover bands for New Year's and Christmas parties. yeah. but you know, for 83, I know my goal is to put a brand new smashing video together. I've got a couple ideas, some new things I'm trying to think of. my latest thing, it's it's a 70s dance band that I put together called Groove and the Gang. And I can send you the link so you can see it, but it's all the seventies, man. All the seventies funk stuff I love. two girls, one guy singing, big band, fun. with the right budget, I have horns. So it turns into just beautiful. It it turns bananas. Yeah. also take this final moment to apply some more peer pressure to Matt Duncan for playing out more. He needs to be playing. this will be funny you should mention this. and normally Ruzucci Mr. Michael here has sat in with my tribute band. Believe it or not, the twenty-first of November at stages, Priest is playing and guest bass player is Matt Duncan. No, it's not. The twenty first of November. Yes. Yes, most good. Most good. but yeah, guys, thank you. Thanks for having me. Come on here. You make me feel like a rock star. I appreciate it. Hey, you are a rock star. So Yeah, next next time next time I'll get into the European stories. I got some good ones. we can't wait. Good. Excellent. We can't wait. Give us something to look forward to. yeah, man. It's a good one. Thanks, Scott. All right, Robert. All right, brother. I I'll see you this weekend, sir. I'm gonna see you in like seventy two hours. Yes, sir. I will see you. Podcast is a Risucci Brothers production and available wherever you get your podcasts. Sizzle. Let's not forget sizzle. Sizzle. Gotta make it sizzle. 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