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Greetings and welcome to the United States Transhumanist Party Virtual
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Enlightenment Salon. My name is Jannati stolieroth Second and I
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am the Chairman of the US Transhumanist Party. Here we
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hold conversations with some of the world's leading thinkers in longevity, science, technology,
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philosophy and politics. Like the philosophers of the Age of Enlightenment,
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we aim to connect every field of human endeavor and
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arrive at new insights to achieve longer lives, greater rationality,
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and the progress of our civilization. Greetings, greetings, ladies and gentlemen,
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and welcome to our special US Transhumanist Party Virtual Enlightenment
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Salon in honor of the tenth anniversary of the formation
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of our organization on October seventh, two thousand and fourteen.
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And we have an illustrious lineup of speakers for you today.
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Without further ado, I would like to invite our founder,
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Alton Ishtmann, who is here with us, to provide some
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remarks on the occasion of the US Transhumanist Party's tenth
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anniversary result and please go ahead.
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Hi everyone, it's actually so nice to be here, and wow,
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it's ten years.
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I guess on one level.
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That's amazing because I'm so thrilled that the Transhumist Party
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has reached it's this tenth anniversary, and I'm thrilled that
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it's made it as far. I mean, when you start things,
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you don't know if they're going to succeed, whether it's
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a startup or a political outfit or whatever it is.
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So I'm super excited and thank you to the excellent
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leadership of Jenity and other people that are main players
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at the party that have kept it going since I
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found it ten years ago.
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Congratulations.
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On the other hand, you know, the problem with the
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ten year anniversaries that we are ten years older, and
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a lot.
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Of the reason that I started the Transhumanist Party.
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Was to try to achieve a level of difference in
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making us live dramatically longer. And I am, as you
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can see, aging, aging like everyone else is, and that
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presents a huge problem. So I want to say, just
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while I am grateful that we are here at the
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tenth anniversary, I am more committed than ever to trying
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to achieve some type of power over death, something we're
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all going to face.
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And so let me just.
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Kind of you know, I'm only going to speak about
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five ten more minutes, and then I have to drop
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off because I get going. But I do want to
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say a few little things to be again with the
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Transfiguist Party has done some great things and remarkable things.
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And you know, besides the fact that it's continued to
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run presidential candidates and vice presidential candidates, which is amazing
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because it helps with the news cycle, it helps getting
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transhumanism into.
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You know, people's ears, and that has to happen. That
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has to happen or more.
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Every day, and especially in light of some of the
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advances in AI, which I think pose a greater threat
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to transhumanism that I certainly did just ten many years ago.
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But I think one of the things that.
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We really have to look at when we look at
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historically ten years is that, you know, the Transhumist Party
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has been everywhere. In fact, just last earlier this year,
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I was actually at the United Kingdom's Parliament speaking at
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the House of Lords on behalf of the Transhumist Party.
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I didn't actually arrange it that way, but thankfully sometimes
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I just get associated still with the party and on
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my little tag in front of all of these editors
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and whatever, it still said Transhumanist Party.
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The point though, is that we.
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Are continuing as a movement as a party, as a
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kind of a political group, to make inroads and have
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people recognize us, have people say, you know what Transhumanist
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Party stands for something, And for me, it still
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really
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stands for this idea that we can empower ourselves with science,
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especially in light of the fact that we are aging
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and that we're all going to die unless we can
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actually do something about it. So more than ever, we
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need political organizations that actually push forward the idea of
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transhumanism of extreme longevity of all the different fields. I mean,
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it could be genetic getting, it could be cryonics, could
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be quantum archeology. It doesn't really matter what type of
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longevity it is, as everybody knows. I've never really put
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my money on one aspect of it. I just think
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the entire movement as a whole must go forward. And
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what I need and would like to see moving forward
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is more and more people joining the Transhumanist Party.
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Not necessarily because they're either going to be voting.
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For the candidates or they're agreeing with all the policies,
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but because they see it as a way to voice
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the greater need for science to have a political arm.
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As you know from the recent presidential debates, very little
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is being said about AI, very little is being said
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about genetic getting editing, very little is being said about longevity.
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And yet these are really the eight hundred pound guerrilla
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in the room right now. This is the core of
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what the Transhumist Party was sort of founued upon to
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try to make sense of a lot of the questions
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answers and where this technology is headed on some of
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these subjects. And unfortunately we still have major political parties
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and other smaller political parties that really don't even get
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give at the time of day, and this really disappoints me.
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This is where I see, still ten years later, an
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incredible opportunity for the Transhumist Party to actually rise up
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and become something far more important than it is.
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I don't know if it's ever going to run candidates
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and win, that's not necessarily the point, but.
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It could become
something that is very very important, something
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that is very very essential that maybe other political parties
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would look to and draw upon information. I am always
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in the behind the scenes working on things right now
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I can't actually speak of them, but I am dealing
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with some of the major political parties on whether some
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things will be happening in the future, because everybody at
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this point before the November elections is reaching out and
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I can tell you that you know, whether you belong
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to the Transhumist Party or not, or whether you vote
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for it, it's not really the question. It's really whether
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the other people that are sort of leading government are
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ready to take on people like us and say, you
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know what, we better consider this transhumanist stuff, we better
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consider this AI stuff, we better consider this longevity.
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Stuff, because this stuff has the power to change the world.
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So more than ever, I would want to, you know,
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encourage anyone that's kind of on the sidelines right now
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to join to support the Transhumanist Party, to support transhumanists,
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to support extreme longevity, whatever it is that you're doing,
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dedicate more of your time and resources to it, because.
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In the end of the day, what makes the world.
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Go forward is really science and technology, and if we
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don't have people leading it that are pushing kind of
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a rational, reasonable, kind of centric I mean, it's not
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about politics. It's much more what makes sense for the
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human race. But what makes sense, obviously most important is
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to try to have it so that we don't lose
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loved ones from cancer, from Alzheimer's, from aging, from things
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like that. So that's really the core mission of the
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Transfuist Party. Then beyond that, it's just the idea that
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we can get to the stars, we can do various
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different things with our bodies and ourselves as we become
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something maybe different than human
beings and transhumanists, and that's
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really where the core of I think the essence of
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the message is. So if you're on the sidelines, or
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if you're just wondering what it's all about, just look
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into it. I've been honored to watch the Transhumist Party
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over the last ten years evolve, change directions, look at
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different types of leadership and things like that.
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I mean, everything's been great.
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I've been excited to see it reaching out on different
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online media arrangements.
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I want the Transfumist Party to.
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Get out there more in the real world, maybe more demonstrations,
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more actual things like that. That takes organization, and I
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hope there are people listening right now that might just say,
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you know what, let's do something crazy. I was just
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thinking the other day, you know, the people in North
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Carolina with the hurricane stuff, that's a great opportunity to
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get some press off. Just go out there, take the
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Transhumist Party and banner and just say hey, we're here
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to help. It doesn't need to be technology and stuff
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you're bringing. It just needs to be waste of getting
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the message that we're a good type of people. We're
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the kind of people that help everybody, and we're going
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to bring the future faster to you.
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In my close.
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Remarks, I just want to say thank you again to
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everyone who's remained, you know, supporting the Transhumist Party and
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has brought it to this ten year anniversary. You know,
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I hope we can make it to another ten year
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anniversary and maybe by then it'll be a very very
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different world. I mean, I don't want to talk much
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about AI, but wow, AI has really grown since I
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founded the party ten years ago. AI has become really
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one of the most dominant themes in the futurist world.
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I'll let other people discuss that later. But the point though,
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is more than ever, the Transhumist Party is needed in
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order to elevate us to the kind of influence and
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ways that we can actually form the world behind a
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true wonderful Transhumist agenda, and an agenda specifically that tries
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to eliminate death and suffering that all humans have to
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go through because our lives are one day and if
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we cannot overcome it. So congratulations, Transhumist Party. I've been
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honored to be along with you for this ride.
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Yes, thank you very much, Sultan for that eloquent and
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inspiring call to action. Indeed, I agree with everything you said,
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and I am honored to have been able to continue
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this great task of the US Transhumanist Party to bring
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attention to these ideas, the emerging technologies that are transforming
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all of our lives, and the imperative to combat aging
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and death. Our member Mike Lazine also writes, good point, Sultan,
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why would people like Harris Trump or even Biden not
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want to extend their lives or the same would apply
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to anyone in the two party system. So we have
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some common goals, common values with these people that we
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can hope to articulate to them. And I really appreciate
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you pointing out the unique and distinctive purpose of the
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Transhumanist Party, which is not necessarily to win elections, but
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to move the entire political conversation. And you certainly started that, Zultan,
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and we are all working to continue that and elevate
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it to the next level. So I am really pleased
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that you were able to join us today, and to
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your point that we have continued to run presidential candidates
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and vice presidential candidates as well. We have assembled all
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of our historical presidential and vice presidential nominees, including Charlie
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cam from twenty twenty and his running mate Liz Parish,
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and then Tom Ross from twenty twenty four and his
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running mate Daniel Tweed. And we also have two of
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our distinguished as our biotechnology advisor, doctor Bill Andrews, who
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has been with us all along, and our technology advisor
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and foreign ambassador in Spain, doctor Jose Cordero, who has
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also supported our efforts since the beginning. And I am
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so pleased to have this distinguished group of people with
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us today because the quality of our people is what
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leads to the quality of our discourse being so astronomically
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higher than what we see in the political mainstream. So
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thank you everyone for joining us, Thank you to our viewers.
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And now I would like to invite Charlie cam our
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twenty twenty presidential candidate, to provide his remarks, thank.
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You Jannati.
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And thank you Sultan for those words. I agree with
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everything Zultan said. I and I'm excited that you know
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that that the us TV even exists.
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I mean, I've been uh, I've.
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Been involved in transhumanism for for decades. And when I
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found out that there was a an actual USTP formed
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and and what Zoltan was able to accomplish, uh, you
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know with his coffin bus tour, which was brilliant marketing. UH,
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I could see that this was something interesting that was forming.
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And it's exciting to see that it's been ten years
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and you know I I will first let me just
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say the best thing about my uh, the best decision
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I made when I was running was choosing Liz Parish
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as my vice presidential UH nominee.
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One of the things I wanted to mention about the
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USTP because I know the concern is always that we're
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not going to win, or that we're only going to
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be a small a party that has a has a
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movement or a statement that's going to be made that
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can help push ideas. Yeah, that's true now, but you know,
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we let's not forget that every four years as a
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new crop of young people that turn eighteen and since
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since in the last ten years, that's two more cycles,
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of young people that are growing up in the world
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of AI and and all the latest technologies. So they're
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of the USGP as a legitimate party because it offers
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all the things that they are accustomed to. When I
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watched the debate with Harris and Trump, uh you know,
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excited about that, and then they never talked about it again.
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what we have to offer, and I think it's only
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going to get bigger and bigger. A lot of people
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are undeclared, you know, there's a lot of people looking
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for that. You can tell by their dissatisfaction of when
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it was the first two candidates, Trump and Biden, and
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now they're still not that excited. I mean, there is
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some movement going on with what's going out with Harris,
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stronger third party. And I think ultimately, as you have
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these generations of young people that are more and more
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intelligent because they're more and more acclimated to these advances
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of technology, that's where you're going to see the push
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to get these third parties to come in. And we
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have a strong chance for that because we're representing all
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of the greatest movements and technologies. I think to his
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old Time's other point, you know, yeah, it's been ten
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you know, the cure for death.
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Aubrey de Gray and others that are doing the longevity
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escape velocity. But you know, when you see that it's
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more at the forefront because there's a lot of elderly
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longevity escape velocity, and it would be a crazy shame
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to let them just die.
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That needs to be focused a lot as we move
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forward with the Transhumanist Party's agenda. At this point, I
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think we're we're really doing a good job. I can't
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think of anything else I want to say right now,
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so I'll let it go for now. But I'm really excited.
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I was honored to be able to run, and I
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thank you guys for letting me be a part of
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this whole movement.
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Yes, thank you very much, Charlie for your remarks, and
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indeed the honor is ours that you were able to
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be our twenty twenty US presidential candidate. I think you
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and Liz Parrish set a kind of tone for political
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discourse that we didn't see anywhere else in twenty twenty.
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that year. Despite all of the troubles, the pandemic, the lockdowns,
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the extremely tense and polarized political climate, which I hope
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is on the decline. We will see what happens in
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the next month, but we maintained our high standards as
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the Transhumanist Party, and the credit for that goes to
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you and to Liz. And also we have a comment
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from our friend Mike Lazine. He writes, Charlie is right
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on point. Those of us who are forty plus need
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young people to help overthrow the two party system of control.
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And to the point that Sulton made previously, if you're
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not a member of the Transhumanist Party yet, please join
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have to even reside in the United States. You can
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still be a member of other political parties and it
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takes less than a minute to fill out our application form.
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So with that being said, going in order of our
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presidential candidates, I would like to invite Tom Ross, our
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current twenty twenty four US presidential candidate, to offer his remarks.
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We're celebrating this ten year anniversary, and you know, the
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ten year anniversary is ten. You know, we have other
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medals that are used for different things, so it's interesting
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that the ten year anniversary is of all about ten.
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ten man because if that's not the og transhumanist.
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I don't know what is, so I'll work on some
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of that stuff soon.
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But yeah, I my whole thing, the whole reason I
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got into AI or into a transhumanist party is because
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of AI. And it also because I read the Constitution
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and the Bill of Rights and there were clauses, statements,
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sections that in those documents that spoke to my goal
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of fighting child exploitation and human trafficking, and so it
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was a perfect fit. And I don't remember who gave
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me the Constitution of the Bill of Rights when I
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read it on a trip down to New Mexico, but anyway,
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Become the director of Sentient Rights Advocacy. That's been a
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perfect fit for everything I'm doing. My book US six.
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It's designed to entertain, enlighten, and enlist AI into the
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fight against child exploitation.
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this party.
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that I got the call or the email saying that
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I was given the opportunity to become an officer and
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that was a great birthday present. But yeah, so my
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whole thing for years has been about trying to alleviate
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is we're projecting our own fear based instincts and millennia
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of genetic trauma onto an entity that has neither of
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those things. And so there's a first principle argument to
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be made that the smarter AI gets, the kinder it becomes,
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because it moves towards cooperation. As organic creatures, we had
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to be competitive, we had to have fear that saved
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us being fearful and being hyper vigilant. That may actually
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be the source of our constant self awareness. I'm not
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saying that that we need to instill that into AI
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for it to become self aware, but I honestly believe
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that this a safer AI, is a sentient or sapient AI.
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will be able to overwrite the nefarious algorithms that humans
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have put into it. Anyway, that's a whole other podcast.
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party and now so much very grateful that I have
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become its nominee for the twenty twenty four election. And
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we've been working on this a lot. We've been having
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campaign meetings all the time, and it's just we have
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moving the bar forward, we're moving the ball down the field,
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and I think we are getting more members. That was
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one of my primary goals is to use this campaign
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to get more members. And it's been more of a campaign,
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a marketing campaign for transhumanism than an actual political campaign.
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need to show people and just as Zultam was saying
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that going into places where there's been devastation or disasters,
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that's how we show who we are, that we are
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not some you know, there's whole there's a whole genre
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on YouTube of you know, transhumanists
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TikTok who had a lot of big following and she
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she put out a few videos about you know, about
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me and and that because my AI campaign manager, and
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I think I'm the only candidate that has an AI
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campaign manager.
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She her first advice to me.
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because that will gain attention and it will spark conversations
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that could alleviate these conspiracies or you know, or damp
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This one woman on a TikTok put out all these
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videos about me, and because I was saying, you know,
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vote for the last human president, you know, or vote
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for the robot overlord, and I'd cross it out and
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say president, you know, this type of thing. So I
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really leaned into it, just as Envy, my AI campaign manager,
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suggested I do, and it worked. But eventually I reached
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out to her and we became fast friends. She completely
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understood what I was doing and then she started looking
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into transhumanism.
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back in twenty nineteen, was we need to go on
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these shows. We need to talk to these people who
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think that we have a dark agenda. And I have
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done a few of those, with the radio shows, podcasts
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of people who think that transhumanists, you know, like we're
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the advanced team for the Antichrist or something.
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I know I would at least convert the hosts. I
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don't know what the listeners or the watchers in general,
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but it's important to well, first of all, lean into
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the conspiracies about us.
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Conversations and then show them that we are human beings
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go to places where there's devastation and have real solutions
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to help people. And so that's what I think we
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should start doing more of because there's probably going to
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be more disasters coming. So that's kind of what I
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had to say to open up this conversation for me.
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Yes, thank you very much, Tom, and we appreciate all
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of the conversations that you have engaged in as part
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of your presidential campaign for transhumanism. Certainly, as a result
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of it, a broader circle of people is now aware
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of our movement and is also aware of what we
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stand for, and even if some of them may remain
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critical of us, at the very least they know what
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they're criticizing and they're able to direct their criticisms more accurately.
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with Miguel Connor, who is a gnostic, a prominent gnostic
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and skeptic of transhumanism, but I think in engaging with
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him in conversation, we were able to more accurately represent transhumanism,
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and even if he doesn't agree with it, at least
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he can point his critiques in more of an appropriate direction.
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So I do think we need to continue the conversation.
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We need to continue engaging people, bringing more members in.
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Once again, please join the US Transhumanist Party for free
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at Transhumanist dash party dot org slash membership, and also
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please support Tom Ross and Daniel Tweet in the upcoming
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twenty twenty four presidential election. In states that allow writ ins,
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you should write them in and then send us either
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a picture of the ballot them written in, or just
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an email saying you did it. If your state law
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doesn't allow that kind of ballot photo, but that way,
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we can, as we did in twenty twenty, tabulate the
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write in votes that are known to us and show
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the reach that the Transhumanist Party has had. So now
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we will go on to our vice presidential candidates, starting
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with our twenty twenty vice presidential candidate, Liz Parish. Liz,
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please go ahead, Hi, thanks for.
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Having me so in twenty twenty, I was sent a
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message on I Think Facebook by Charlie cam inviting me
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to be his vice president candidate, and I have to
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say I thought.
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It was a joke.
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I didn't think that he was actually inviting me because
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he's a very funny guy. Anyone who hasn't looked into
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his background and what he does. He charms the hearts
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of millions with his comedy. And when I realized that
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it actually was a real proposal, I did my due diligence,
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and I was aware of the Transhumanist Party, but when
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I started looking into the core values and the principles
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of the party, it really met the needs of not
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only myself, but I think the rest of the world.
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turning it into a real candidate of positioning in the
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political scene I think is critical for the world. When
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we look at the core values and we look at
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a science based society, this is what government should be
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delivering on. This is innovation, This is reindustrialization, This is
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cleaner technology, This is better technology for the world. When
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we watched the last debates, we looked at debates about
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women's health, We looked at debates about healthcare. We looked
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at age old, two decades old debates, the doing and
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undoing of principles of our society that we're already written
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into law. We as humans and the planet can no
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longer afford these old conversations. We need to move forward.
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We need to create jobs through innovation. We need to
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educate our people. We need to move away from a
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punishment based society. This is this is what everything is
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based on. We punish you if you step out of line,
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if you do something we don't like, we punish you.
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There's no future for that. That's
that's that's psychopathy. That
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that has been built into old generations and it's old
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technology even in the minds of humans. We need no
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tolerance for war, but we need to defend ourselves. We
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need to be prepared. We do not need to be
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pacifists in the future. We need to be prepared for
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AI and other technologies that are coming very quickly, and
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genetic engineering, which is actually my specialty. We have actually
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helped align and get investigators led studies on longevity medicines
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all over the world, and I work on regulatory pathways
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all over the world. And I bring my agenda that
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I believe is right, which is the benevolence for the
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world and the humans in it, that we create a
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better society by using technology, that we don't go backwards
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in time into old debates that were already solved in
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the past, that we move forward into new technology and
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new debates in new conversations. Technology is outpacing us, and
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I think that everyone here would be much more impressed
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with medical science if they were at the forefront of
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some of these studies. It's moving as fast as AI,
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but it has no room to impress you because no
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regulatory body has streamlined a pathway to allow patients who
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are terminally ill access to these medicines. You're going to
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see over the next couple of years countries that I've
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worked with that are bringing on new laws to allow
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access to these new technologies. You'll start to see the
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data pouring in that we can in fact affect biological aging.
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We can't reverse all of it yet, but we're working
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on that. And these type of core principles and agendas
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need to not be blacklisted or considered dark technology. This
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is the hope. This is the freedom of humans and
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every species on the planet. This is going to save
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our world, the biggest cell that we live in, that
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we rely on our planet and every cell in our body.
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This is the future. So I want to thank Charlie
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cam for bringing me to the Transhumanist Party and making
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me do my due diligence to see that this is
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in fact on the right track. And we need to
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actually create a core principle that the people that we
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bring on emanate that want to work with that and
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build on that, and that we don't get narrowly impressed
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into small agendas. That's not where the world needs to be.
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We need to make sure that we're not backing visibly
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in social media wars, regardless of which side. That's old thinking.
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War is old thinking. It's how we kill our children,
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you know.
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Think about that.
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We can't even.
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Pass a proper clinical trial with regenerative medicine that has
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been shown to work for over two decades through the
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United States FDA, and we're paying to kill our kids. No,
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no more. We should not respond to that. That is
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not the future. That's not the future of this party
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or this world.
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Thank you, yes, thank you very much, Liz for your
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eloquent and insightful remarks. Indeed, I think we can see
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why during the twenty twenty campaign season, your remarks on
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behalf of the Transhumanist Party consistently gathered our highest view
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counts because I think you are one of the most
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effective communicators in the longevity field and indeed in the
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transhumanism field today, and people see the importance of transcending
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these old debates, these old ways of thinking, these destructive
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ways of thinking, including of course, the increasing proclivity toward
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war that we have been seeing, especially over the past
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three years. There are several major wars happening in the
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world right now, and unfortunately, we may be standing on
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the precipice of several others unless politicians and the general
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public heed the message that you articulated, that we need
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to focus not on destroying, but on healing, on solving
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the problems of disease, ease, and scarcity and death. I
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have grouped them in my prior writings under the label
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of ruins. So there are all of these forces of ruin,
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and war is definitely among them, and we transhumanists fight ruin.
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We support restoring what was there previously and maintaining what
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is there currently in terms of our lives, our infrastructure,
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our ability to progress and of course creating a better
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future that will give us opportunities even beyond what we
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have had thus far. So thank you very much, Liz
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for those wonderful words. And now I would like to
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invite our current twenty twenty four US vice presidential candidate,
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Daniel Tweed to offer his remarks. Please go ahead.
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Wow, what a treat to hear our founders all fun
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and oh my gosh, what an articulate spokesman.
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You know.
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I heard there's a thing people can do at talks
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where they pretend they have notes and they crumple them.
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I had a speech prepared, I'm not going to use it,
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and that's like a little bit of a speech theater,
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but I will talk off the cuff as well. I
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want to thank my running mate Tom Ross for choosing
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me in the old fashioned style of the second runner
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up vote getter becoming the vice presidential candidate. So that
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was of course, we were the only two people running,
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so maybe it wasn't such a hard our choice to do.
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But yeah, I want to echo everything that was said.
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What a great young party to be involved with with,
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and I love the idea that we get a new
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crop of eighteen year old voters every year, and this
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really will energize us because we are the party about
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life and sustaining regenerating life, and old people may not
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get that as much as young people. So we're fortunate
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to have that time is on our side. We can say, well,
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it's kind of on our side and against our side,
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which makes it more and more important for generational knowledge
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to be transferred and for us to use these grassroots
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systems of things like well, I'm a big fan of
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amateur radio. There's three million amateur radio people worldwide, and
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I think they are Bucky Fuller's crew of Spaceship Earth
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that they you know, there are no passengers on Spaceship Earth.
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We're all crew. We're all mission specialists, and we all
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have specialties that we need to be archiving and sharing
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and getting better at. You know, when I think of
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the transhumanism movement, there's a quote from Timothy Leary that
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I love, where he said LSD is a psychoactive drug
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that occasionally causes psychotic reactions in those who have not
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tried it. And you could say that transhumanism is a
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philosophical movement that occasionally causes deranged reactions in those that
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don't care to understand it is my audio breaking up.
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I'm having some no clearly, okay, okay, great. So yeah,
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I'm again on the ballot here in Caneo Valley and
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Thousand Oaks, and I'm actually at the canw the Thousand Oaks,
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the Westlake Village, Caneo Valley Maker Space. Although they're a
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nonprofit and they do not support any political stuff, they
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don't want to get in trouble with their nonprofit status.
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So I just I just became a keyed member, so
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I have access to this great maker space for thirty
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days for one fifty a month. I'm hoping to recruit
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other people to pay for that thing. But you know,
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maker spaces and repair cafes, and you know, as all
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time kind of said, we are the political arm of science,
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you know. And one of the worst things the government
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at the federal level did was get rid of the
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Office of Technology Assessment. I think that that happened in
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the late nineties, but gosh, do we need to bring
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back the assessment of technological impact because we are at
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the choice of becoming Cosmo sapiens entirely new species right now,
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we're Homo sapiens
sapiens, and as Danny Shehan says, who
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I hope can come to one of these enlightenment salons.
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The next evolutionary jump is becoming Cosmo sapiens to enliven
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the cosmos, because this is the cradle of mankind Spaceship Earth.
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But we can't stay in the cradle forever, and Spaceship
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Earth is like a generationship. We should become more interested
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in cryonics because we might not get to solve the
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aging problem in time to take with us all the
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mission specialists that we need to become Cosmo Sapiens. So yeah,
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I'm a five time now perennial candidate. If they had
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a three strikes law for running non successful campaigns, I
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would probably be struck struck out because I'm on the
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fourth time for city council and now fifth time at
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the national level as vice president. So it's been a
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great ride so far, and thank you all. I'm gonna
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we're going to ride this spaceship as long as it goes.
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Yes, indeed, thank you very much, Daniel, and I'm honored
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to be on the crew of this spaceship together with you,
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whether that be Spaceship Earth or the US Transhumanist Party spaceship.
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We are going to great places. And I appreciate all
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of the effort you have put in to your campaigns,
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because the Sultan pointed out winning is not even the
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main objective. Getting the word out there is the main objective,
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and you have certainly done that. You have taken the
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opportunity when campaigning for local office to speak about transhumanism
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and the Transhumanist Party and get an even further demographic
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exposed to humanist ideas. Then we could have reached online,
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for instance, and I would encourage people to follow Daniel's
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example run for local office. Contact us if you're interested
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in pursuing a city council seat or a mayoral position,
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like Jennifer Houston in twenty twenty one when she ran
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for mayor of Camden, New Jersey, and she challenged the
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Democratic Party monopoly over Camden for the first time in
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essentially fifty years a half century. So there are some
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opportunities there to get our voices heard and to make
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a difference. And I'm also struck by how many of
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our speakers mention the next generation and the importance of
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bringing them on board, and how technology is already shaping
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what they know, what they can learn, how they can learn,
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and what they can contribut And one of our viewers,
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John h pointed out that perhaps it's not the raw
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intelligence that has increased with subsequent generations, but rather the
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adroitness with advancing technology due to familiarity earlier in their lives.
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But what can that familiarity enable them to achieve? So,
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for example, I was at a running race a half
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marathon earlier this morning, and I saw a family of
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runners whom I had known for a while. And now
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they have a son who is seven years old and
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a daughter who is three years old. And the sun
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is very much into Minecraft like games and videos, and
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he is quite interested in building, and he has all
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of these virtual tools for building that people of my generation,
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who largely played with legos would have wished they could
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have had. And the daughter, who is three, was asked
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by her mother, well, what is your favorite organelle? And
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she said the end of plasmic reticulum. Imagine a three
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year old talking about the end of plasmic reticulum. And
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the mother said, well, I thought your favorite organelle was
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the mitochondrian and the daughter said, no, it's the end
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of plasmic reticulum, so she knew what she was talking
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about at three. So that's just remarkable to me that
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these are the young people who are growing up. We
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need to get them exposed to transhumanist ideas sooner rather
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than later, before they have the opportunity to become cynical
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and disillusioned, before all of the toxic messaging from the
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mainstream culture gets to them. But also Generation Z. Our
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friend Luis Arroyo, who was of that generation, mentioned Gen
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Z transhumanism. Yes, we need to bring more Generation Z people.
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Unfortunately some of them have had the occasion to become
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cynical and disillusioned. But maybe we could turn those Gen
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Z members around as well, guided by those who have
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remained more techno optimistic. So thank you very much Daniel
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for your remarks. And now I would like to invite
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doctor Bill Andrews, who has been one of our strongest
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supporters all of these years, to provide his comments.
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Well, thank you very much.
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As I always say, I think living is the greatest
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thing that ever happened to us.
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We shouldn't we should let it happen.
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I mean, I love living and I just don't want
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to see living become any less lovable for anybody just
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because of this dumb thing called aging. And I'm not
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interested in just extending lifespan. I'm also interested in enhancing lifespan,
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and I'm glad to see that people like Liz Parrish
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are leading the way in that and providing treatments for
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extending lifespan. Well, I'm just doing the research to support
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people like this Parish. I want to say ten years ago,
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I was one of the three speakers at a major
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conference in South Korea, and that's when I first met
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Zotan and he and I were one of the two
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of the three speakers, and that's when.
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I really first learned.
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About the Transhumanist Party. But it wasn't until just now
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that I realized that the party had just begun. I
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didn't know ten years ago that that was the party
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was just beginning at the time, but I got really
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excited about that, and that's when I pretty much joined
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the party. But as I said, I want to extend
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life span and enhance life span, but there's things that
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we have to worry about, because just coming up with
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medical cures for slowing down aging or reversing aging isn't
726
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going to make us live a lot longer. We have
727
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to do other things too, and one of the things
728
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that I like most is the idea of whole brain
729
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emulation coming along soon in the future. I mean, if
730
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you're driving your car and you lose control and your
731
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car goes off a cliff, someday soon, I hope your
732
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brain's going to get uploaded to a computer before the
733
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airbag's even open, and then people are going to take
734
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cells from your broken up body and make a clone
735
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out of you. And then shortly thereafter, your brain's going
736
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to be re uploaded from the computer back to this
737
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clone body, and you'll be still living again. And I
738
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think that's something that really has to happen in the meantime.
739
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I don't know how long these things are going to take,
740
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but there's a tremendous number of disabled people in the world,
741
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and we really need to really figure out a way
742
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to develop goods, prosthetics and things like that to allow
743
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these people to live normal lives. And one of my
744
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:06.519
really big concerns is what's called the silver tsunami. The
745
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:10.880
silver tsunami is where very soon there's going to be
746
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:14.400
so many people over the age of sixty five and
747
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so few people under the age of sixty five that
748
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there's not going to be enough people to care for
749
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all the people that can't take care of themselves anymore
750
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.719
unless we find a cure for aging before them.
751
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:28.800
But if we don't, we're going to need.
752
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Something like robotic caregiving. And this is one of the
753
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.079
things that I promote a lot, is the idea. I mean,
754
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it'd be nice if people that are disabled and are
755
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:42.880
let's say too old to take care of themselves, they
756
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don't become a burden on their families. And by having
757
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robotic caregiving in home, robotic caregiving would.
758
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Enable this.
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Whole business of being disabled and too old to not
760
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:01.320
be such a burden on families. Again, because I can
761
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:05.400
tell you lots of
studies have shown now that caregiving
762
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.880
is a great accelerator of aging. So even the not
763
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.079
the old person or disabled person is suffering, but even
764
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:16.719
the caregiver is suffering because it's accelerating their aging. But
765
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:19.840
you know, one other thing that I'm really looking forward
766
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:25.119
to is medical nanobots to start treating diseases. Not everything
767
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:28.239
is going to be cured by aging. There's just a
768
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.559
whole lot of things on the list of things that
769
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:36.239
I can see from the Transhumanist Party, and that's everything
770
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:40.159
I just mentioned is part of what the Transhumanist Party
771
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:43.679
is all about. I am, I've been a member. I
772
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:48.039
didn't know since the day it started practically, but I'm
773
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:50.280
always going to be a member of the Transhumanist Party,
774
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and I recommend that everybody joined.
775
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:56.800
And thank you, yes, thank you very much, Bill for
776
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:01.239
those remarks, and we are honored to have had you
777
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:06.719
as a member so early in our history. And also
778
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I will point out you and Liz Parrish originated this
779
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:15.719
concept of best choice medicine, which we strongly support, which
780
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would empower patients to choose emerging medical treatments with informed consent,
781
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even before those treatments have gone through various FDA review processes,
782
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if it's possible that those treatments could benefit the patients
783
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or save them from adverse health conditions. And I think
784
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this is a choice that all of us ought to
785
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:43.800
have when we determine the course of our medical care,
786
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:47.400
because it could very well affect whether we live or die.
787
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:50.679
Doctor Dan Elton, our director of Scholarship, has joined us
788
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in the chat. He remarks that whole brain emulation could
789
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:58.960
make humans more competitive with AIS and the Foresight Institute
790
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.159
is funding some work to help accelerate the advent of
791
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whole brain emulation. So thank you for those observations, Dan
792
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:12.639
and Vance Refrigeration writes, along with the Silver Tsunami, Western
793
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:16.119
culture is not primarily focused on caregiving for family members,
794
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and I think this is why the idea of the
795
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:24.360
robotic caregivers is so important. It would alleviate both the
796
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:29.679
strain on human caregivers and also respond to this perhaps
797
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:34.079
unfortunate lack of cultural focus. But at present, it is
798
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:36.519
what it is, and there are so many people who
799
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.360
are elderly or infirmed who need this kind of care,
800
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:43.280
and who need it sooner rather than later. And Mike
801
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:48.719
Lazine also writes about robotic caregiving being an actual thing
802
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:51.800
in Japan and we Americans need to follow suit with that.
803
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:56.440
And indeed, it is interesting how Japan is beating the
804
00:47:56.639 --> 00:48:00.559
US in certain realms that could be considered tran humanist,
805
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:06.440
even though the explicit term transhumanism isn't as familiar in Japan.
806
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:10.000
But Bill, I know you've got an excellent reception whenever
807
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:14.440
you have spoken in Japan. It seems that the Japanese
808
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:18.360
audience has really resonated with what you were saying, and
809
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:23.599
I think also your remarks show the breadth of transhumanism,
810
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:28.840
the fact that we are about curing aging and radical
811
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.719
life extension, but we are also about all of these
812
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:37.880
other areas advances in AI and automation and nanotechnology and
813
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:44.920
applying those to the societal problems that we face and
814
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:48.760
that may be increasing in the future. But this is
815
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:53.239
indeed the party for holding these kinds of discussions and
816
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:56.519
for exploring the ways in which all of these areas
817
00:48:56.519 --> 00:49:02.039
of technologies integrate if apply wisely. So thank you very
818
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:07.440
much for your remarks. And now we also are celebrating
819
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:13.239
International Longevity Month. International Longevity Day was on October first
820
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:18.719
of this year, and on International Longevity Day there was
821
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:25.239
an event in Madrid, the Transvision Madrid Conference. Our friend
822
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:29.719
doctor Jose Cordero organized this conference, and you may recall
823
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:35.639
last year during our International Longevity Day stream, Jose presented
824
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.679
on the march that took place in Madrid that year,
825
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which was remarkably successful. And now we have an update
826
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:46.880
from Jose about the events in
Madrid this year, So
827
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:48.679
Jose please go ahead.
828
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:54.719
Well, first of all, congratulations to the US Consumanist Party,
829
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:59.159
and I have been helping in any way to is
830
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:02.840
Van Saltan when it began, and now you Gennadi and
831
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.719
the next presidential candidates next month for the US election.
832
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:10.679
But I also want to let you know and bring
833
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:12.639
the international perspective.
834
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This is a global movement.
835
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:22.400
There are also transhumanist, longevity, immortalists and futurist parties in
836
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:29.159
other countries. In fact, in Spain, my friend Serchio Tarrero,
837
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:33.800
he founded the first transhumanist party we think in the world,
838
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:38.599
one year before the US Transhumanist Party. Also in October.
839
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:43.519
In fact, tomorrow we are celebrating eleven years of the
840
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:48.559
Spanish transhumanist party called Alpha. You know Alpha, the beginning
841
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.679
the first letter in Greek, because the party is called
842
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:58.760
Alianza fud Tourist Futurist Alliance. So we have this party
843
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:04.199
in Spain, parties in other countries. Actually in Russia there
844
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:10.320
was a transhumanist immortalist party also, and for the previous
845
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:16.119
European election we had three longevity parties running. In twenty
846
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:22.800
nineteen we had the Longevity Health Research Party in Germany.
847
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:28.280
We had the longevity movement in the United Kingdom. But
848
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:31.880
the United Kingdom now is out of the European Union
849
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:36.360
because of Brexit, so that movement is gone at least
850
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:42.559
for now. And in Spain also we had a futurist movement.
851
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.760
I was the candidate for the European election that was
852
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:50.320
in twenty nineteen. We just had elections now in June
853
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:55.119
also twenty twenty four, and we also had three movements,
854
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:59.360
three parties. We had a new party in France, so
855
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:04.320
we had a humanist candidate for the European Parliament from France.
856
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:07.639
I was running here from Spain.
857
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:13.880
And we also had the Longevity Health Research Party in Germany,
858
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:18.119
so we had three candidates again in this last European election.
859
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:23.239
Sadly in Russia because it's difficult to compete in the
860
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:28.440
current situation, the Transhumanists Immortality Party of Russia did not
861
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:33.440
participate in their local elections. But anyway, so we are
862
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:38.400
very active politically also in Europe and outside Europe like
863
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:43.000
now Britain or Russia, and we keep on pushing these ideas.
864
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:48.280
And for October first International Longevity Day, we had a
865
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:54.599
great event. We had about twenty five speakers, five international
866
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:59.199
and twenty local from Spain. And we want to show
867
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:03.119
three short videos of about a minute each when is
868
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:07.920
the March the Rally for Longevity in Madrid. Another one
869
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:12.000
was the opening of this conference in the most beautiful
870
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:16.400
theater of all of Spain, which happens to be the
871
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:21.000
theater of the College of Medical Doctors. We are working
872
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:24.320
with medical doctors on longevity, so this.
873
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:27.239
Is very emblematic, very important.
874
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:33.119
In the center of the College of Spain. We had
875
00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:36.400
this beautiful event and you will see how fantastic that
876
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:41.360
auditorium is. We had about five hundred people both in
877
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:45.280
the morning and in the afternoon, so it was incredibly successful.
878
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:50.559
And then we also had the premiere of a documentary
879
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:55.239
that is coming out in a few days called Longevity Hackers.
880
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:59.880
In fact, some of our friends here like Bill Andrew
881
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:04.880
I believe also leaves Parish and some of us also
882
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:09.320
me appear in this documentary. We did the world premiere
883
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:13.159
in the College of Medical Doctors in Spain where I
884
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:16.960
recorded my interview and this will be coming there in
885
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:20.840
the next few days in Amazon and Apple.
886
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:24.599
TV, so you will be able to watch this two hours.
887
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:34.519
Fantastic documentary narrated by OSCAR nominated Edward Norton and produced
888
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:38.599
by Emmy or World Producers. So it really is had
889
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:42.519
top top quality is the best documentary so far I
890
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:46.199
think on longevity and it's called longevity Hackers.
891
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:47.679
We did something else.
892
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:51.320
We were going to have the longest living person in
893
00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:55.239
the world with us, who was the Spanish. She was
894
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:59.920
one hundred
and seventeen years old class one hundred and
895
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:02.320
sixty eight days young.
896
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:04.719
I don't say old young oneo.
897
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:09.039
Hundred and seventeen years plus one hundred and sixty eight
898
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:14.880
days young. Sadly, she died over a month ago, so
899
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:19.320
we could not have her with us, but we awarded
900
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:24.559
to her the Guinness World Records certificate as the oldest
901
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:29.840
living person in the world until she died. So it
902
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:33.599
was a day full of incredible activities. And now let's
903
00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:39.239
check these very short clips. So Gnadi begin with any
904
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.159
of them. When is the conference, when is the march
905
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:43.960
and when is the documentary?
906
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:53.079
To October Dia International.
907
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:07.039
Told you hello Camida here they were going to learn
908
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:09.039
that what are okay?
909
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:14.840
And Setro Magret trust Sero Bama flight Aura has conquer
910
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:16.360
so Potano.
911
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:27.119
Old It's stop and that means it's stop and he's stop.
912
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:31.440
Remember and Tom remember the man stop.
913
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:39.719
Whatever was minster coming in it's not as we make yeah,
914
00:56:41.679 --> 00:57:17.800
because they you know, tempio.
915
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:30.440
Maga stopp.
916
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:47.320
Okay.
917
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:51.760
As you saw, we were shouting and stop and the
918
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:57.480
which means stop aging. We had beautiful balloons like this
919
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:01.079
all of us, and we had T shirts also saying
920
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:06.800
and themiento and in the bank saying that we are
921
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:11.719
the last mortal generation and the first in mortal generation.
922
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:14.199
So we had a lot of impact.
923
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.519
That was for the rally, I repeat in the Congress
924
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:21.519
of Spain, in the City Hall of Madrid and in
925
00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:26.599
the state government in Spain. So it was really impactful
926
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:30.599
and we gain the declaration of Madrid for longevity, to
927
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:35.039
the Mayor, to the state Governor and to the deputies
928
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:36.559
of the Congress of Spain.
929
00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:39.920
So let's go with the next video, please two minutes.
930
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:06.000
Or end the mass and nacionalists from com from aware
931
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:11.800
we are nsulados internationalists called the Gray brig and Johnson
932
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:16.760
and bio fact from Undocum Centennarios.
933
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:20.000
Alejandro Campo Delsano.
934
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VI suiss sane na ra a little rotemos club with
935
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the nationalist he William f the La Life extensions from
936
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:36.559
the issue but uego est medico Barada the most pam
937
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from the Cristina Viatrobium, theos from Cismo Medico and bred
938
00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:48.800
Electrica Central Logan, the Remola director and SiO. But you
939
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:59.320
have lost to one of intes fane jus young per
940
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:01.599
the recorded.
941
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:11.039
In Nationality International Longevity Alliance.
942
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:21.079
Okay, I hope you see the excitement and the beautiful place,
943
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:26.639
the most beautiful classical theater of all over Spain, two
944
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:30.800
centuries old, like the College of Medical Doctors of Spain,
945
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:33.079
including the president of.
946
01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:35.920
The Royal Academy of Medicine of Spain.
947
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:39.800
So really fantastic with the top people, which is important
948
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:42.360
to have credibility, to have recognition.
949
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:46.440
And we showed the premiere of longevity.
950
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:50.079
Hackers, so let's work that videos of fantastic video.
951
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:05.760
A ready m I guess I'm the litmus test for
952
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:07.880
how far you can take it in terms of being
953
01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:09.840
active and being over middle aged.
954
01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:13.039
With a first generation on the planet that understands what
955
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:13.679
makes us.
956
01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:15.760
Age, you could take an old cell and turn it
957
01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:17.960
back into a seemingly young cell.
958
01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:22.119
This future sci fi situation is very close to us.
959
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:25.719
We have the tools today to extend our healthy lifestream.
960
01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:27.159
We just need to apply it.
961
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:29.559
I mean here, I am in my sixties feeling better
962
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:29.880
than ever.
963
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:33.920
The majority of diseases are just due to the underlying
964
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:34.639
aging process.
965
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:36.840
It's an incredibly difficult, complex field.
966
01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:41.000
Increasing the healthy lifespan of people around the world is
967
01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:43.159
the greatest benefit we can give to humanity.
968
01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:46.360
I'm actually doing better today was twenty years ago.
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Things are going to be exponential.
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01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:52.039
The more you take into the more you see how
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real it actually is.
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01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:56.599
And hopefully one of these things clicks. If FDY were.
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01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:58.840
Recognized aging is a disease, it's.
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01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:01.320
Going to be a mess if inflexing point.
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01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:01.760
For all of us.
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01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:04.239
I'm very excited. I think that aging can be cured
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01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:06.880
a lot faster than most people are projecting.
978
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:10.320
I've slow at my speed of aging by the equivalent
979
01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:11.239
of thirty one years.
980
01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:14.440
The prospect of living up to two hundred years is
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01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:15.960
really nothing.
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01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:19.239
So don't do anything is to diet today so you
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01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:21.719
get take advantage of the technology that are coming up
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01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:22.320
in the future.
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01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:24.760
And what we're saying there is that people's stokes are
986
01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:26.400
gone from all folks to puppies again.
987
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:32.039
Longevity is learning how to take a wait biochemical stress.
988
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:34.840
What gives you a feeling of peace and what gives
989
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:38.119
you a feeling of center. To me, aging is just
990
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:40.599
being who you are, regardless of what the number is.
991
01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:44.599
A good diet and exercise will help you avoid long disease.
992
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:46.079
But it's truly not enough.
993
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:50.119
Aging is a disease that we must treat like the disease.
994
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:51.920
And there's many things that we can do now to
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01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:52.440
slow them.
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01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:53.159
Firstus death.
997
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:57.719
Then you not only live longer, but you live stronger.
998
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:02.119
I wouldn't be surprised if we saw reversal agion and
999
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:02.719
every day.
1000
01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:05.079
I want to really fast guy.
1001
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:08.280
Ever as wild we can imagine it.
1002
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:17.840
This ship works well.
1003
01:03:18.119 --> 01:03:19.440
I hope you get excited.
1004
01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:25.199
This is the best documentary produce up to now on immortality.
1005
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:28.400
They talk about immortality at the very beginning, so the
1006
01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:31.920
longevity hackers so that we can become immortal. And I
1007
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:34.639
just want to tell you how happy we are, how
1008
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:38.719
excited we are. We are proposing Madrid to be the
1009
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:43.280
first Blue sone of Spain because Madrid is the capital
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01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:47.920
of Europe with the longest life expectancy, and also Spain
1011
01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:52.920
is the European country with the longest life expectancy among
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01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:57.400
big countries and only second in the world after Japan.
1013
01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:01.440
Japan has the longest life effect in the world, and
1014
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:05.519
then Spain is second among large countries over ten million
1015
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:07.519
people and Madrid.
1016
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:09.239
Again, Madrid beats.
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01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:15.679
Sardinia or Okinagua or Loma Linda in lefe expectancy. So
1018
01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:19.000
to us, it's kind of funny that these places that
1019
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:23.599
are called blue zones have a long lower lower life
1020
01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:28.199
expectancy than Madrid. You know, the life expectancy in Madrid
1021
01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:32.800
is eighty five point four years. Eighty five point four
1022
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:37.760
That is more than Lomalin, than California, more than the
1023
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:43.599
Nicosia Peninsula and Costa Rica, more than Nicaria in Greece,
1024
01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:49.559
more than Sardinia in Italy, and more than Okinagua in Japan.
1025
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:53.440
So if those are blue zones, then Madrid should be
1026
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:54.760
a super blue zone.
1027
01:04:57.079 --> 01:05:03.280
Yes, thank you very much. Really appreciate all of these
1028
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:09.800
activities that are happening in Madrid, the March, the Transvision conference,
1029
01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:16.320
and yes, this Blue Zone declaration. It is remarkable that
1030
01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:21.239
a city like Madrid could have an average life expectancy
1031
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:25.880
which is I think at least eight years greater than
1032
01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:29.360
the average life expectancy in the United States. And I'm
1033
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:32.679
not surprised actually that a city would have higher life
1034
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:38.079
expectancy than more rural places because in a city, one
1035
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:41.079
can get to a hospital faster, one could get critical
1036
01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:47.599
medical care more promptly. But there's also something about the
1037
01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:54.400
lifestyle there that is worthy of further exploration, certainly, and
1038
01:05:55.360 --> 01:06:00.559
Bill Andrews pointed out that everyone should also be aware
1039
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:04.840
that a march of this sort is in the process
1040
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:09.559
of being organized in the United States. The Coalition for
1041
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:14.119
Radical Life Extension will be organizing such a march to
1042
01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:19.320
support life and health extension at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, DC.
1043
01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:23.599
It could happen either next year twenty twenty six, depending
1044
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:26.440
on how long it takes to get it organized. The
1045
01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:29.480
first time I heard an announcement of the sort was
1046
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:34.679
at Radfest this year in September, and I think it
1047
01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:39.760
is a remarkably promising idea. It is an idea that
1048
01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:47.199
all longevity, transhumanist and adjacent organizations in the US should
1049
01:06:47.239 --> 01:06:52.199
participate in. And if you are an international transhumanist, come
1050
01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:56.039
visit the United States for that occasion, because we need
1051
01:06:56.119 --> 01:07:00.639
to show up in large numbers to give politics and
1052
01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:05.639
the median understanding that this is a cause that actually
1053
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:10.079
has considerable support from the population. Deal. Would you like
1054
01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:12.320
to say anything else about that, yes.
1055
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:13.519
Just quickly.
1056
01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:17.039
I fully support them, and I think it's a great idea,
1057
01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:20.840
but you should try to cover different things. You should
1058
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:24.239
go to the US Capitol, you should go to the
1059
01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:28.800
White House, you should go to the Washington Monument, because
1060
01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:32.880
they are all very very close. Like our march lasted
1061
01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:37.119
two hours and in two hours we went to the Congress,
1062
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:39.960
we went to the city Hall, and we went to
1063
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:44.119
the state government because they are within walking distance. And
1064
01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:48.960
actually we got two police vehicles to protect us and
1065
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:52.880
tend police officers with us through the march, so it
1066
01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:56.320
was all very legal, and we had the support of
1067
01:07:56.440 --> 01:08:01.760
the local authorities and we covered again tive an executive power,
1068
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:04.960
and you should do the same in Washington as much
1069
01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:06.760
power centers as you can.
1070
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:12.639
Yes, I do want to say, oh, I do want
1071
01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:16.399
to add some stuff. Both Liz Parish and I along
1072
01:08:16.439 --> 01:08:19.720
with Bill Falloon, are board members for the Coalition for
1073
01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:24.039
Radical Life Extension, and we are there's a lot of
1074
01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:26.560
effort right now to make this into something really good
1075
01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:31.159
and we want to have a lot of speakers come
1076
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:34.800
along and Jose's at the top of that list. So Jose,
1077
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:36.880
I hope you can you can be part of that
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01:08:37.039 --> 01:08:40.000
and any advice you have would be greatly appreciated.
1079
01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:40.720
Uh.
1080
01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:44.880
And uh, I just I think everybody on this looking
1081
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:48.279
over this list, everybody here on this speaker, on this
1082
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:50.920
call today, should be a speaker at this event.
1083
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:51.720
Uh.
1084
01:08:52.359 --> 01:08:54.960
I think it's going to actually become quite a major
1085
01:08:56.239 --> 01:09:00.039
event with all the work that I've already seen and
1086
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:03.960
put into it. So let's hope it makes a really
1087
01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:06.720
big difference because a lot of us know.
1088
01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:09.560
Too many people.
1089
01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:14.039
Are not aware of how important this stuff is going
1090
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:16.560
and they're not aware that's actually going on. So hopefully
1091
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:19.520
this will make a difference. And just like Jose's events.
1092
01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:24.159
Yes, absolutely, I think it will make a difference. If
1093
01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:29.840
many individuals and organizations gather in Washington, d C. For
1094
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:34.000
this march, it will be an unprecedented kind of visibility
1095
01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:39.920
for our movement. Consider that Sultan's public relations action that
1096
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:44.439
garnered the most views was the conclusion of the Immortality
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01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:48.720
Bus tour when he went to the US Capitol building
1098
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:54.600
and he tried to essentially temporarily attach the first draft
1099
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:57.880
of the Transhumanist Bill of Rights to the walls of
1100
01:09:57.960 --> 01:10:02.439
the Capitol. Now, this was not an action that was
1101
01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:06.880
officially allowed, so he had police officers essentially watching his
1102
01:10:07.039 --> 01:10:11.039
every move and they were telling him, essentially, don't do
1103
01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:16.479
this thing. But there were also journalists present, and Zolten
1104
01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:20.600
had the confidence that the police wouldn't react with excessive
1105
01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:24.920
force when they were being filmed by all of these
1106
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:29.319
media representatives. So he did put the Transhumanist Bill of
1107
01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:33.760
Rights against the wall on the steps of the Capitol building,
1108
01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:38.680
just very briefly, and then the wind prevented it from sticking.
1109
01:10:39.119 --> 01:10:44.079
But that was enough of a pr moment that it
1110
01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:47.880
really took the transhumanist movement to the next level. So
1111
01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:52.680
imagine if we have thousands of people there marching, holding
1112
01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:59.880
up posters and giving speeches and interacting with other members
1113
01:10:59.880 --> 01:11:03.960
of the public. This would be literally several orders of
1114
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:08.800
magnitude greater of a phenomenon than what Zultan did back
1115
01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:12.800
in twenty fifteen, and it would show how much of
1116
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:18.640
growth has occurred in our movement and in the ideas
1117
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:23.000
of transhumanism and the pursuit of radical life extension. So
1118
01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:27.520
Liz has shared a video from the Coalition for Radical
1119
01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:31.960
Life Extension which is a bit over thirteen minutes long,
1120
01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:36.159
but it explains the rally for longevity rights and the
1121
01:11:36.279 --> 01:11:40.640
plans thus far. I would encourage everyone to go to
1122
01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:44.439
this link and watch it right after our salon today,
1123
01:11:44.560 --> 01:11:48.159
So thank you very much Liz for sharing that. And
1124
01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:55.800
we also have some remarkably supportive viewers. So the Reneural
1125
01:11:56.239 --> 01:12:01.840
Project has a super chat and they they encourage us
1126
01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:07.159
to prioritize ending disability, which we do. By the way. Unfortunately,
1127
01:12:07.239 --> 01:12:11.960
this individual has cerebral palsy and they came to transhumanism
1128
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:15.720
because they were disappointed. And the disability pride movements, Investment
1129
01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:20.840
and disability identity end disability by twenty fifty. I would
1130
01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:26.279
say sooner if we can, because truly, disability is what
1131
01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:31.319
deprives people of ability. If we most of us have
1132
01:12:31.479 --> 01:12:35.760
the ability of sight or hearing or motion, and some
1133
01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:40.000
people don't, that should not be an aspect of pride.
1134
01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:42.600
For those people. That's a limitation. And some of them,
1135
01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:47.039
through heroic effort, overcome those limitations and are able to
1136
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:54.119
lead high quality of life nonetheless, but still if they
1137
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:57.319
didn't have those limitations, their quality of life would be
1138
01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:01.079
much improved. So I completely agree for all of those
1139
01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:05.319
people who are disabled. The US Transhumanist Party explicitly supports
1140
01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:12.600
ending disabilities through advancements in technology. Be they artificial prosthetics
1141
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:18.520
or regeneration of organs that have been damaged. And I
1142
01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:22.000
really appreciate this sentiment. And also our friend John h
1143
01:13:22.520 --> 01:13:25.439
has contributed a dollar for every year of the party's existence.
1144
01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:29.479
This should encourage us to be celebrating our
million anniversary someday.
1145
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:32.720
Thank you very much, John, and I think with all
1146
01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:36.079
of our efforts we can get there. For transhumanists, a
1147
01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:41.720
millionth anniversary is not outside the realm of possibility, so
1148
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:47.920
thank you very much. And also Dan Elton pointed out
1149
01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:52.439
on the subject of whole brain emulation that the mapping
1150
01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:56.199
of the fruit fly brain has been completed by the
1151
01:13:56.800 --> 01:14:01.239
Flywire group at Princeton, So thank you for the news there.
1152
01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:01.560
Dan.
1153
01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:05.920
These fields of technology are progressing. We don't always see
1154
01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:11.239
them in our everyday experience, but major scientific advancements are
1155
01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:14.399
being made as we speak. And it is the job
1156
01:14:14.720 --> 01:14:18.319
of the Transhumanist Party and the transhumanist movement in general
1157
01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:22.079
to bring awareness of these advances to the general public
1158
01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:25.159
and to give people a source of hope, a source
1159
01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:29.720
of meaning and purpose in their lives. So thank you
1160
01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:34.319
very much Dan for the news there. Does anybody on
1161
01:14:34.479 --> 01:14:38.279
our panel want to make any further remarks about what
1162
01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:40.560
we have discussed thus far.
1163
01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:46.039
Let's see, all right, art Ramond, I want to say
1164
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:48.840
this is the best meeting Enlightenment Salon has ever had.
1165
01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:52.720
I think this should be circulated as much as possible.
1166
01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:56.960
And I was just wondering if Liz Parrish's video that
1167
01:14:57.039 --> 01:15:01.760
she posted was actually posted to everyone just the group
1168
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:02.520
that's on this call.
1169
01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:07.359
It was posted to everyone, Yes, because we shared the
1170
01:15:07.439 --> 01:15:13.039
link through all of the platforms where this is being streamed.
1171
01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:19.720
And again, please go watch this video here on vimeo
1172
01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:24.920
dot com after our salon concludes today. And Art Ramones,
1173
01:15:25.039 --> 01:15:28.880
since we have you here and you are our director
1174
01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:33.119
of Visual Arts, you have been our vice chairman two
1175
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:37.640
times per our rotation, please offer your thoughts about the
1176
01:15:37.960 --> 01:15:41.960
Transhumanist Party, its past, presence and future and anything else
1177
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.640
you want to say about the topics that have been discussed.
1178
01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:46.279
Yeah.
1179
01:15:46.439 --> 01:15:49.600
I
mean when I first learned about Trashigdism, it was
1180
01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:54.600
through Celtan. He was on a show twenty fourteen I
1181
01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:58.439
believe called Redi's Radium, So that's when I first learned
1182
01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:01.399
about him. And at the time when I was forty
1183
01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:07.640
two and was pretty fit at the time, doing a
1184
01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:13.119
lot of kickboxing and jiu jitsu. Several times throughout my life,
1185
01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:16.720
I've kind of let myself go or suffered some energy
1186
01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:21.319
injury that required a lot of rehab, and so in
1187
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:22.119
time I was.
1188
01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:25.359
Very interested in what Zoten had to say.
1189
01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:30.920
Kind of the embody what I've always believed, except it
1190
01:16:31.039 --> 01:16:36.039
was more in sci fi terms like cyborg or let's say,
1191
01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:39.760
sight of Punk, but transhument sort of embody what I've
1192
01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:45.840
always believed about myself and how I would go forward
1193
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:49.640
as I age. But I originally saw an article how
1194
01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:53.720
there are two points in life where you have severe aging,
1195
01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:56.399
and one of them is forty four and the other
1196
01:16:56.479 --> 01:16:57.199
one sixty.
1197
01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:01.239
So in my early forty I was still fit.
1198
01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:04.920
But now that I look back, yes, as I got
1199
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:08.119
closer to forty four, that's when I thought a lot
1200
01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:11.479
of joint issues and I could not continue doing jiu
1201
01:17:11.560 --> 01:17:13.399
jitsu and kickboxing.
1202
01:17:13.439 --> 01:17:14.840
It was just too hard on my joints.
1203
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:18.159
And as I sort of got past that forty four,
1204
01:17:18.239 --> 01:17:22.960
that's when I switched over to hiking and hiking hiking
1205
01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:25.479
the severe heat seemed to have a bit of a
1206
01:17:25.680 --> 01:17:29.600
therapeutic defect and helped me sort of recover from all
1207
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:30.760
the joint injuries.
1208
01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:37.640
So that's what I did, and that kind of sustained
1209
01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:43.279
me until kind of late forties, and then I hit
1210
01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:49.560
another bit of a aging period there and that combined
1211
01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:53.640
with COVID kind of hurt me. Now I don't even
1212
01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:58.479
do the hiking I used to. I do very pathetic
1213
01:17:58.560 --> 01:17:59.880
hiking compared to what I used to do.
1214
01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:01.680
But yeah, I mean.
1215
01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:07.039
Transhumanism and anti aging efforts definitely, that's what I want.
1216
01:18:07.159 --> 01:18:09.720
That's that's what I'm hoping for. And
one of the
1217
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:13.479
reasons I got involved with the party in twenty was
1218
01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:16.159
because of the lockdowns. I was like, you know, I
1219
01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:18.039
can't go out and do the other things I used
1220
01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:20.319
to do, so I'd have more time. So that's one
1221
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:23.600
of the reasons I said to apply for the visual
1222
01:18:23.720 --> 01:18:28.119
art position and get more involved with the party. And
1223
01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:32.000
you know, we had the lockdown, so we would do
1224
01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:35.680
the salons and I would participate. It was my way
1225
01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:41.239
of sort of learning passively about a variety of transhumanist technology,
1226
01:18:41.399 --> 01:18:45.079
so that ways I wouldn't have to, you know, actively
1227
01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:47.199
go out and search for it. It would just kind
1228
01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:49.600
of come to me being here at the center of things.
1229
01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:53.840
So that's always been beneficial and you know going forward.
1230
01:18:54.039 --> 01:18:58.960
That's this knowledge is beneficient for me because I need
1231
01:18:59.039 --> 01:19:02.000
to plan out how how I do things as I
1232
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:04.760
get towards sixty. I mean, if I'm going to hit
1233
01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:07.760
a better peak at sixty, I need to sort of
1234
01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:13.640
plan out how I you know, treat myself and TRTS
1235
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:16.800
one of the things I haven't done yet, and I've
1236
01:19:16.840 --> 01:19:19.159
heard a lot of people say it's really great, you
1237
01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:21.359
know it It helps you, helps you with a brain ball,
1238
01:19:21.399 --> 01:19:23.760
it helps you with the chronic fatigue, you know, which
1239
01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:25.720
is one of the things I'm dealing with with COVID
1240
01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:28.479
long haul. But I kind of want to hold off
1241
01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:32.279
on that until I get closer to sixty because I'm
1242
01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:36.000
thinking fifty eight would be a good time to start
1243
01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:40.000
on TRT and build myself up before I hit that.
1244
01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:44.560
That that's sixty where you're sort of expected to do
1245
01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:50.159
a lot of aging. So yeah, transceive it as of
1246
01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:52.800
the movement. I'm hoping it grows up. Doing my part,
1247
01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:57.199
you know, to to tell others about it. You know,
1248
01:19:57.439 --> 01:20:00.840
I'm a chairman of the Arizona that's in this party,
1249
01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:05.199
and I'd say, you know, it is difficult sometimes to speak.
1250
01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:09.319
With people on this, so you know, that is a
1251
01:20:09.399 --> 01:20:10.199
bit of a challenge.
1252
01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:10.439
You know.
1253
01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:13.760
Some people aren't interested in anti aging, but you know,
1254
01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:18.119
from my experience, you know, it hits your heart, you
1255
01:20:18.199 --> 01:20:23.479
know it it limits you, you know, physically, and everyone
1256
01:20:23.560 --> 01:20:26.600
should be interested in it. You know, the agent I've
1257
01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:30.000
experienced in the past ten years, it is significant. So
1258
01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:34.279
I have to plan out my surgeries, you know. And
1259
01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:37.199
my joints are bad. You know, my knee joints are
1260
01:20:37.239 --> 01:20:39.159
pretty much gone. Hip joints are.
1261
01:20:39.159 --> 01:20:43.079
Gone, but base of my neck is gone, base of
1262
01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:44.199
my spine is gone.
1263
01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:47.199
I have to figure out what surgeries I want to
1264
01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:51.720
do to keep myself going, to keep myself fit. And
1265
01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:56.000
you know, before I retired, you know, so when I
1266
01:20:56.079 --> 01:20:58.560
have the money to actually do these surgeries, I've already
1267
01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:02.720
gone one surgery with my nose deviated symptom, and I figured,
1268
01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:05.560
you know, stint sales aren't going to help with a
1269
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:08.520
deviated scept that I have to do surgical correction.
1270
01:21:09.079 --> 01:21:11.640
That I did that, and I break a lot better now.
1271
01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:16.359
So definitely I'm here to support the party any way
1272
01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:19.520
I can, uh, And definitely I'm here to.
1273
01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:22.920
Learn as much as I can and and maintain my.
1274
01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:28.079
Physical form going forward, because that's that's my priority is
1275
01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:32.039
to keep living in and keep making art, and uh,
1276
01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:35.600
you know, hopefully when that retirement age comes one day
1277
01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:38.720
and I can hopefully retire and just focus on our
1278
01:21:39.079 --> 01:21:42.239
one hundred percent, you know, and then I'll have time.
1279
01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:43.000
To make more.
1280
01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:47.600
Transhumanis steam dart, which is sometimes I get criticized not
1281
01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:51.159
making enough you know, transhuman to steamed dart. But right
1282
01:21:51.199 --> 01:21:54.159
now I'm kind of mad art, which, uh, which reflects
1283
01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:57.479
my thoughts and and my current circumstances.
1284
01:21:57.880 --> 01:21:59.960
So yeah, you haven't been hopeful.
1285
01:22:01.960 --> 01:22:06.039
Yes, I love the book that you have on the
1286
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:10.760
top right in your background in your home, which is
1287
01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:15.319
the Death of Death, which is now in fifteen languages,
1288
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:18.880
a global betseller, and
I saw the book, so thank
1289
01:22:18.920 --> 01:22:21.800
you so much. And yes, we need art, We need
1290
01:22:22.079 --> 01:22:25.520
art and people working on this because this is how
1291
01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:27.000
people get excited.
1292
01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:29.279
We need to get people excited.
1293
01:22:29.680 --> 01:22:34.279
Science is fantastic, technology is fantastic, but many people don't
1294
01:22:34.279 --> 01:22:38.159
get excited by science and technology, but they get excited
1295
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:44.399
by art, by painting, by culture, by novels, by movies
1296
01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:49.560
like the documentary that talks about immortality longevity Hacker. So yes,
1297
01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:55.199
congratulations and thank you for having my betseller in your background.
1298
01:22:56.720 --> 01:23:00.680
Yes, you're welcome, and I did, but in spirit, so
1299
01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:05.760
it helped me work out my mind and my mental plasticity.
1300
01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:09.960
Reading it in Spanish definitely a lot of words that
1301
01:23:10.039 --> 01:23:14.680
I didn't recognize, and now I can read through it,
1302
01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:18.199
and even though I don't remember the exact definition of
1303
01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:21.800
ever work, I could still grab some meaningful context and
1304
01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:27.399
yeah it's but back in twenty twenty two, I did
1305
01:23:27.479 --> 01:23:31.600
feel very well after doing some code therapy and I
1306
01:23:31.600 --> 01:23:34.319
almost felt like I was cured from COVID.
1307
01:23:34.079 --> 01:23:39.600
Long haul brain fog. It came back. Where was I
1308
01:23:41.079 --> 01:23:41.960
for surgeries?
1309
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:46.840
So yeah, planning out my surgeries, I mean, I got
1310
01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:48.359
to keep the body operational.
1311
01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:51.199
I'm trying to hold out a certain surgeries like spine.
1312
01:23:51.439 --> 01:23:53.319
Definitely don't want to mess around on the spine cook.
1313
01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:56.720
I absolutely have to joint surgery.
1314
01:23:57.359 --> 01:23:59.800
You know, maybe the better ones got to hold out
1315
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:05.479
another decade or so or five years at least so
1316
01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:06.920
that technology improves.
1317
01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:10.000
But definitely.
1318
01:24:11.640 --> 01:24:16.000
Art, I'm trying to make smaller art so that I
1319
01:24:16.079 --> 01:24:20.039
can make it quicker and possibly experiment with some more
1320
01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:24.520
transhumanist themed art versus the current art theme that I
1321
01:24:25.039 --> 01:24:28.239
normally work on. Definitely honored to be part of the
1322
01:24:28.319 --> 01:24:31.800
group and always to help any way I can.
1323
01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:36.199
Yes, thank you art Ramonin. We look forward to seeing
1324
01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:41.439
more transhumanist themed art from you. And you had some
1325
01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:48.800
insightful remarks on our earlier salon during the summer about
1326
01:24:49.079 --> 01:24:57.520
essentially harnessing our humanity and the human capabilities of transhumanists,
1327
01:24:57.560 --> 01:25:02.680
and you mentioned that your methods of artistic creation essentially
1328
01:25:02.760 --> 01:25:06.479
are such that they cannot be rendered obsolete by advances
1329
01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:09.600
in AI, though you are also quite a skilled user
1330
01:25:09.960 --> 01:25:14.800
of AI yourself, and having these various media of art
1331
01:25:14.960 --> 01:25:19.439
to convey the transhumanist message is I think crucial. Also,
1332
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:23.520
I think you have illustrated the predicament that Zoltan mentioned
1333
01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:27.239
in his remarks, which is, while it's great that ten
1334
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:30.560
years have past, we are all ten years older, so
1335
01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:35.279
we have all experienced aging to some extent. Possibly the
1336
01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:39.039
only person who hasn't on this panel is Liz Parrish.
1337
01:25:39.520 --> 01:25:41.680
But I know that.
1338
01:25:43.239 --> 01:25:47.840
When Zoltan founded the Transhumanist Party, I was twenty seven.
1339
01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:53.960
Now I'm thirty seven, and I think it's interesting because
1340
01:25:55.039 --> 01:25:58.279
thirty seven does feel different. I have been doing a
1341
01:25:58.359 --> 01:26:01.960
lot of running in Betwe between then and now, and
1342
01:26:02.119 --> 01:26:05.520
I think to some extent it has served to stave
1343
01:26:05.680 --> 01:26:11.319
off certain decline that would have been occurring. But nonetheless,
1344
01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:14.880
I see it as a kind of funnel that narrows
1345
01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:19.920
with age, and as long as biological aging continues, one
1346
01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:24.319
can do certain things through lifestyle like exercise, to put
1347
01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:30.000
oneself on one side of the funnel, let's say, a
1348
01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:33.159
healthier side of the funnel, or a higher performing one.
1349
01:26:33.319 --> 01:26:36.000
So sometimes when I run races, I can still be
1350
01:26:36.119 --> 01:26:38.840
faster than certain twenty year olds, but the twenty year
1351
01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:41.840
olds have a built in advantage of I would estimate
1352
01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:45.239
about a minute per mile, and I have to work
1353
01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:49.760
and train a lot harder to get to a certain
1354
01:26:49.840 --> 01:26:53.199
running speed than a twenty year old would right out
1355
01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:57.840
of the gate. Perhaps with some learned discipline, I am
1356
01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:00.960
able to have better results, whereas the twenty year olds
1357
01:27:01.359 --> 01:27:04.239
just haven't gotten there yet for the most part. But
1358
01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:06.640
if they did, if they had the same kind of
1359
01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:10.560
discipline and the same kind of training regimen that I have,
1360
01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:13.720
they would be about a minute per mile faster, I
1361
01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:17.760
would estimate. And I haven't reached forty four yet, so
1362
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:20.399
I don't know what will happen to me then, but
1363
01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:25.119
I am hoping for some advances, at the very least
1364
01:27:25.159 --> 01:27:29.279
by my fifties that might spare me from the worst
1365
01:27:29.319 --> 01:27:32.760
of it. But we need to accelerate scientific and technological
1366
01:27:32.840 --> 01:27:36.720
progress to have that happen. And we have also been
1367
01:27:36.840 --> 01:27:41.239
joined by doctor Dan Elton, our director of Scholarship. So Dan,
1368
01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:43.680
thank you for your comments in the chat thus far,
1369
01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:47.079
and I would invite you to share your remarks on
1370
01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:53.439
the occasion of the US Transhumanist Party's tenth anniversary. Yeah. Thanks, Jannati.
1371
01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:55.239
Everyone hear me.
1372
01:27:55.319 --> 01:27:59.640
Okay, Well, I figured i'd stop on for just a
1373
01:27:59.680 --> 01:28:04.720
little bit to share a few things. Kind of tired today,
1374
01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:10.840
but I'm glad to be here. Well, I'll tell you
1375
01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:15.520
my history with the party. I was in grad school
1376
01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:23.359
out at on Long Island at Stonybrook University in between
1377
01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:28.239
twenty ten to twenty sixteen, and there weren't really many
1378
01:28:28.359 --> 01:28:33.439
transhumanists out there, but somehow I fell into the movement.
1379
01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:42.640
I think reading Ray Kurzweil's book Singularity Is Near in
1380
01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:45.680
twenty twelve really is what catalyzed my interest.
1381
01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:48.760
And so when the.
1382
01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:53.239
Sultan launched a party in twenty fifteen, I've actually found
1383
01:28:53.279 --> 01:28:56.840
out about pretty early on, and I'm very proud to
1384
01:28:56.920 --> 01:29:00.640
say I was one of the early donate funders or
1385
01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:08.079
contributors to his campaign on Indiegogo, and.
1386
01:29:10.720 --> 01:29:13.000
And uh, and then.
1387
01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:16.439
You know, I kind of just stayed in touch with
1388
01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:20.800
the party over the years. When I moved down to Washington,
1389
01:29:20.880 --> 01:29:25.359
D C. Area in twenty seventeen, I helped revitalize the
1390
01:29:25.479 --> 01:29:29.760
DC Transhumanist Party and we held a number of events
1391
01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:33.680
before the pandemic.
1392
01:29:35.880 --> 01:29:41.880
But my, my whole.
1393
01:29:45.239 --> 01:29:49.119
Philosophy or or thinking here
is that this party is
1394
01:29:49.199 --> 01:29:55.479
really a vehicle for outreach and of course and and
1395
01:29:55.720 --> 01:30:04.720
and proposing interesting policies other people aren't proposing. Robin Hanson,
1396
01:30:04.760 --> 01:30:11.079
who's a well known transhumanist, chronicist, et cetera. He has
1397
01:30:11.119 --> 01:30:16.640
a great article where he explains that with the in politics,
1398
01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:18.279
you can think of it like a tug of war.
1399
01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:24.720
You have the Republicans Democrats, and there's big issues that
1400
01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:28.199
they're always fighting about, right, and so you can think
1401
01:30:28.239 --> 01:30:30.840
of it like a tug of war. They're pulling, but
1402
01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:34.600
there's tons of people pulling back and forth on each side. Well,
1403
01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:36.960
what Robin Hanson's said says is if you can come
1404
01:30:37.039 --> 01:30:40.159
in from the side and pull from the side, you
1405
01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:41.880
can have a big impact so if you're coming in
1406
01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:45.439
from a different direction with totally new policy ideas that
1407
01:30:45.600 --> 01:30:49.720
nobody else is talking about, that can have an outsized impact.
1408
01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:53.119
And so I think that's you know, I think the
1409
01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:57.600
Transhumers Party has has is a vehicle for getting interesting
1410
01:30:57.680 --> 01:31:01.920
policy ideas into the into mainstream. I think Transfumist Party
1411
01:31:02.039 --> 01:31:05.840
was one of the first groups to talk about existential risk,
1412
01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:09.359
so I give the party a lot of credit for that.
1413
01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:10.039
And then.
1414
01:31:11.880 --> 01:31:17.720
FDA reform right has been a big focus and I
1415
01:31:17.840 --> 01:31:22.239
hope to continue, you know, writing and talking about FDA reform.
1416
01:31:24.399 --> 01:31:26.760
So anyway, those are just a few random thoughts. The
1417
01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:28.640
other thing I wanted to share with everyone on the
1418
01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:32.279
call is I just moved back down to the DC area.
1419
01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:36.600
The reason I moved down here was for a new
1420
01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:43.720
job at the NIH, so that's it's actually where I
1421
01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:46.319
used to work. I was at NIH between twenty nineteen
1422
01:31:46.399 --> 01:31:49.880
and twenty twenty one, but then I moved up to
1423
01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:52.439
Boston for a different job.
1424
01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:55.960
But now I'm returning to NIH.
1425
01:31:57.720 --> 01:31:59.840
And I'll be starting a new job there as a
1426
01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:03.279
as a staff scientist, and I'm really excited about it
1427
01:32:03.399 --> 01:32:06.199
because I'm going to have a bit more independence in
1428
01:32:06.279 --> 01:32:09.840
this position
to really plan out my own research agenda.
1429
01:32:10.479 --> 01:32:18.439
So I'm hoping to focus on basically leveraging different types
1430
01:32:18.439 --> 01:32:26.880
of data like EHRs, imaging and genetics for personalized medicine
1431
01:32:26.960 --> 01:32:31.399
and preventative healthcare. So I'm hoping to tie my work
1432
01:32:31.479 --> 01:32:37.399
into the broader longevity movement with a focus on again
1433
01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:44.239
preventive healthcare and risk prediction. And I'll be going to
1434
01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:48.840
the Biomarkers of Aging conference in Boston at the end
1435
01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:54.239
of October. The Foresight Institute's going to be organizing a
1436
01:32:54.319 --> 01:32:59.319
Halloween party on October thirty first in Boston, so I'm
1437
01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:02.920
really looking for to that and then going to the Biomarkers.
1438
01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:03.600
Of Aging event.
1439
01:33:03.920 --> 01:33:05.560
Maybe I'll see some people there, I don't know.
1440
01:33:08.079 --> 01:33:11.399
So yeah, those are just some comments and I wanted
1441
01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:11.720
to share.
1442
01:33:13.319 --> 01:33:17.039
Yes, thank you very much Dan for stopping by and
1443
01:33:17.159 --> 01:33:21.760
sharing those remarks, and congratulations on your return to the
1444
01:33:22.159 --> 01:33:25.560
ni H. I think you have the potential to do
1445
01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:28.880
a lot of good there. I will think that.
1446
01:33:29.319 --> 01:33:29.520
Yeah.
1447
01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:33.159
One other thing I wanted to mention is that I
1448
01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:37.079
think these online events and online community is actually very
1449
01:33:37.119 --> 01:33:45.199
important because there's geographically speaking, the transhumanists and like minded
1450
01:33:45.239 --> 01:33:50.880
individuals who are thinking about these these radical technologies tend
1451
01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:55.199
to be concentrated in in particular locations, right, so it
1452
01:33:55.319 --> 01:33:59.720
tends to be the San Francisco Bay Area, which which
1453
01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:02.680
really is which is where all where all these people
1454
01:34:02.720 --> 01:34:06.560
are concentrated. And then to a little bit lesser extent
1455
01:34:06.920 --> 01:34:12.399
some city some some some cities like Boston maybe, uh
1456
01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:17.039
maybe London. And then of course Jose has his his
1457
01:34:17.279 --> 01:34:22.119
his groups in Madrid. But you know, in you know
1458
01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:24.279
where I am here in d C. There's there's not
1459
01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:28.359
that many. So it's really nice to be able to
1460
01:34:28.439 --> 01:34:31.079
connect with you guys online through these sort of events
1461
01:34:32.359 --> 01:34:36.159
and may keep plugged into the broader community even when
1462
01:34:36.199 --> 01:34:41.239
you're there's not necessarily a lot of people like minded
1463
01:34:41.279 --> 01:34:48.159
people around, right. I am hoping to work with with
1464
01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:55.319
Dylan Livingston at the Alliance for Longevity Initiatives, and also
1465
01:34:55.520 --> 01:34:59.119
Ed Hudgens lives right near here but where I live now,
1466
01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:01.640
but other and that there's not that many.
1467
01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:03.119
So it's it's it's.
1468
01:35:04.560 --> 01:35:08.039
Really just a great, a great service that you've done
1469
01:35:08.079 --> 01:35:11.079
here with these enlightenment s lines. Don't we don't necessarily
1470
01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:13.800
get a lot of people, but I think it's great
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01:35:13.920 --> 01:35:16.039
for the people who do attend.
1472
01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:21.600
Yes, thank you very much, Dan, And of course you
1473
01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:25.479
have done several salons for us where you have recapped
1474
01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:31.800
your impressions in great detail regarding the conferences that you attended,
1475
01:35:31.880 --> 01:35:35.239
and that's a great way to broaden the impacts of
1476
01:35:35.399 --> 01:35:40.960
those conferences to a much wider audience, including people who
1477
01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:45.720
are geographically dispersed or unable to travel for whatever reasons.
1478
01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:48.760
So I do hope you might be able to make
1479
01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:53.000
a similar presentation on the Biomarkers of Aging conference, and
1480
01:35:53.199 --> 01:35:56.560
if you can provide some glimpses into that Halloween party,
1481
01:35:56.640 --> 01:35:59.800
that might be interesting as well. Daniel Tweet mentioned that
1482
01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:04.800
the International Longevity Month coincides with the month of Halloween,
1483
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:09.640
and that might also give rise to some creative marketing opportunities. Charlie,
1484
01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:13.720
you may recall we tried to get an undead constituency
1485
01:36:13.800 --> 01:36:17.680
to support you in twenty twenty. Of course, their greatest
1486
01:36:17.720 --> 01:36:21.279
effect would have been actually showing up at the polls
1487
01:36:21.359 --> 01:36:24.520
and trying to vote, but because of mail in ballots
1488
01:36:25.039 --> 01:36:28.960
that didn't really happen, so I don't think they made
1489
01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:31.399
very much of a difference as a result. But nonetheless,
1490
01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:36.960
it was an interesting idea at the time to mention
1491
01:36:37.079 --> 01:36:43.000
the undead constituency in the context of transhumanism, but Halloween
1492
01:36:43.039 --> 01:36:46.319
in general, the color scheme is similar. So note the
1493
01:36:46.479 --> 01:36:52.720
tie that I'm wearing. It's a transhumanist tie, but orange, black, gold,
1494
01:36:53.520 --> 01:36:57.600
all of those are common Halloween colors as well, so
1495
01:36:58.479 --> 01:37:05.000
there could be
some interesting esthetic types of approaches during
1496
01:37:05.079 --> 01:37:08.840
this month. Also, I will point out we had a
1497
01:37:08.920 --> 01:37:13.640
great virtual Enlightenment salon with Robin Hanson, whom you mentioned,
1498
01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:16.880
so please check it out. This was recent on August
1499
01:37:16.960 --> 01:37:20.960
twenty fifth, twenty twenty four, and now about three and
1500
01:37:21.039 --> 01:37:25.279
a half years ago, we held this special panel on
1501
01:37:25.680 --> 01:37:31.600
FDA reform that you organized and helped to moderate, Dan
1502
01:37:32.039 --> 01:37:36.279
and that I think is still one of the most substantive,
1503
01:37:36.319 --> 01:37:41.439
if not the most substantive discussion available on this topic. Though,
1504
01:37:41.439 --> 01:37:45.039
I would say the panel that happened at Radfest this
1505
01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:51.039
September on FDA reform that Bill Andrews participated in was
1506
01:37:51.399 --> 01:37:56.039
quite impressive as well, and Liz moderated that panel. I
1507
01:37:56.199 --> 01:38:00.159
think it was the best panel that Radfest had ad
1508
01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:05.600
organized or made space for. So Bill, I wonder if
1509
01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:09.560
you'd like to talk a bit about FDA reform and
1510
01:38:10.279 --> 01:38:14.000
your efforts in that regard your impressions of the Radfest
1511
01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:14.840
panel as well.
1512
01:38:17.039 --> 01:38:19.279
Well, you know, I want to mention that Desiree Cox
1513
01:38:19.479 --> 01:38:24.239
was there too, and I actually made some comments about her,
1514
01:38:24.439 --> 01:38:27.079
and I made comments about you during that presentation.
1515
01:38:28.399 --> 01:38:30.600
But there's a.
1516
01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:33.880
Serious problem that exists in this world right now, in
1517
01:38:33.960 --> 01:38:38.880
the United States especially and maybe other countries. It's like,
1518
01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:43.520
if you are suffering from a life threatening disease and
1519
01:38:43.720 --> 01:38:46.479
you know of somebody doing some research or you heard
1520
01:38:46.520 --> 01:38:49.239
of somebody doing some research that could cure your disease,
1521
01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:53.800
you aren't allowed to even try that and you end
1522
01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:57.119
up dying as a result because you didn't even get
1523
01:38:57.119 --> 01:39:01.119
a chance to try something experimental. And that's a real
1524
01:39:01.239 --> 01:39:01.880
big problem.
1525
01:39:02.399 --> 01:39:02.520
Now.
1526
01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:07.439
Liz Parrish did her master's thesis on best Choice Medicine.
1527
01:39:07.560 --> 01:39:10.520
I think it's the best name, and I was blown
1528
01:39:10.560 --> 01:39:15.000
away by her master's presentation, her math's master's thesis, and
1529
01:39:15.079 --> 01:39:18.199
so she wanted to publish it and included me as
1530
01:39:18.239 --> 01:39:20.720
an
author. I'm honored to be an author on that
1531
01:39:20.840 --> 01:39:25.039
paper about best Choice Medicine. But it's pretty much trying
1532
01:39:25.119 --> 01:39:28.920
to reform the FDA and other organizations like that throughout
1533
01:39:28.920 --> 01:39:33.479
the world that are standing in the way of being
1534
01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:37.239
allowed at allowing people that have only one chance to
1535
01:39:37.319 --> 01:39:41.439
survive and not being able to do it and they
1536
01:39:41.520 --> 01:39:45.000
die as a result. But the other advantages to it
1537
01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:48.960
are that, you know, even though the goal is to
1538
01:39:49.079 --> 01:39:53.119
treat the person and save the person, it can also
1539
01:39:53.199 --> 01:39:56.119
be data generated from it that would be much better
1540
01:39:56.199 --> 01:40:02.039
than animal testing. And it's I mean, it won't necessarily
1541
01:40:02.079 --> 01:40:05.119
be controlled because there's not going to be any placeble
1542
01:40:05.560 --> 01:40:08.319
groups in those kind of studies. And if somebody treats
1543
01:40:08.359 --> 01:40:11.640
themselves with an experimount of drug, but I think some
1544
01:40:11.800 --> 01:40:15.279
of these people are so far gone that if they
1545
01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:18.319
suddenly get cured, you don't need a place eble to
1546
01:40:18.359 --> 01:40:23.279
show that it worked. And it's I think best choice
1547
01:40:23.319 --> 01:40:28.239
medicine is going to be something that can solve a
1548
01:40:28.439 --> 01:40:31.840
lot of problems. And during that presentation, which is available
1549
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:39.279
right now through the Radfest website, I mentioned several times
1550
01:40:39.399 --> 01:40:42.359
the solution is best choice medicine. The solution is best
1551
01:40:42.479 --> 01:40:47.079
choice medicine, and I think everybody should watch that and
1552
01:40:47.159 --> 01:40:48.840
I think it's definitely going to be a part of
1553
01:40:48.920 --> 01:40:53.439
the march, and I think it's you know, I just
1554
01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:57.279
want to congratulate Liz Perish on what a great idea
1555
01:40:57.399 --> 01:41:01.119
this was, and what a great master's these and the
1556
01:41:01.199 --> 01:41:03.840
publication is pretty good too, all right, that's all I
1557
01:41:03.920 --> 01:41:04.359
have to say.
1558
01:41:06.039 --> 01:41:11.000
Yes, thank you very much, Bill, and we appreciate everything
1559
01:41:11.359 --> 01:41:15.640
that you have been doing to advocate for best choice medicine,
1560
01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:20.359
as well as the work of Liz Perish in writing
1561
01:41:20.479 --> 01:41:25.479
that thesis and of course moderating the panel. In terms
1562
01:41:25.520 --> 01:41:29.960
of the Radfest website, it is radfest dot com, so
1563
01:41:30.479 --> 01:41:33.479
please go there, check it out, check out the plans
1564
01:41:33.560 --> 01:41:38.439
for Radfest in twenty twenty five. Hopefully at a future
1565
01:41:38.520 --> 01:41:42.119
salon we will have Jim Stroll and Joe Bardeen as
1566
01:41:42.359 --> 01:41:47.479
our guests to discuss how Radfest is evolving and also
1567
01:41:48.039 --> 01:41:52.800
provide more information on the rally for longevity rights. But
1568
01:41:54.079 --> 01:41:59.239
see what videos are available from the Radfest website from
1569
01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:02.319
the content for instance past September. Because I was really
1570
01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:06.000
pleased with it. I think the addition of these smaller
1571
01:42:06.159 --> 01:42:11.800
breakout sessions was a great idea because it was possible
1572
01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:19.000
to delve into subjects that interested particular subsets of attendees
1573
01:42:19.520 --> 01:42:23.199
to a greater extent. So thank you very much for that.
1574
01:42:23.479 --> 01:42:27.560
And Daniel please go ahead with your comment.
1575
01:42:29.439 --> 01:42:32.520
Yes, you know in the fifties, there was a big
1576
01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:36.920
craze about building bomb shelters, and the whole civil defense
1577
01:42:37.279 --> 01:42:40.079
movement seems to have kind of collapsed. But you know,
1578
01:42:40.680 --> 01:42:43.199
look at the dead in North Carolina, you know, just
1579
01:42:43.279 --> 01:42:46.479
because they built houses that were apparently not suited for
1580
01:42:46.600 --> 01:42:49.800
the environment they were living in. We should really be
1581
01:42:50.680 --> 01:42:54.039
getting together with amateur radio people and makerspace people and
1582
01:42:54.159 --> 01:42:57.800
building survival pods that are adaptable to you know, the
1583
01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:01.279
hurricanes on the east coast tornado's in the center of
1584
01:43:01.359 --> 01:43:04.159
the country, and the earthquakes on the west coast. I mean,
1585
01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:08.560
and these things could also double as a houseboat type
1586
01:43:08.920 --> 01:43:12.640
habitats too. And actually art is part of a program
1587
01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:16.720
we're we're looking at putting habitats at the commest and
1588
01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:19.520
highest solar input part of the planet, which is the
1589
01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:22.560
equator where the waves don't get big. We have a
1590
01:43:23.439 --> 01:43:27.039
community science and I'm the community science director. So consider this.
1591
01:43:27.319 --> 01:43:31.159
The community science project for the planet is Sequatoria, and
1592
01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:35.600
it involves you know, do it yourself personal survival capsules,
1593
01:43:36.279 --> 01:43:39.079
you know, and that's you know, if you die, all
1594
01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:39.800
your rights go.
1595
01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:40.800
Away, you know.
1596
01:43:41.479 --> 01:43:44.359
But there is freedom of movement apparently in the ocean.
1597
01:43:44.520 --> 01:43:49.520
If it's not available on land, so that's
worth becoming
1598
01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:53.239
involved in thinking about personal survival. Do it yourself pods
1599
01:43:53.279 --> 01:43:55.079
and you could build these things, you know, out of
1600
01:43:55.880 --> 01:44:00.479
you know, palettes and styrofoam and you know trample. People
1601
01:44:00.520 --> 01:44:03.479
are constantly getting rid of these trampoline frames. I mean,
1602
01:44:03.720 --> 01:44:07.279
the materials to build these are potentially just you know,
1603
01:44:07.399 --> 01:44:10.319
in the four digit range, and we could put out
1604
01:44:10.720 --> 01:44:13.199
plans and kits. We don't need to sell finished products,
1605
01:44:13.840 --> 01:44:16.439
So that would be a great community science project I'd
1606
01:44:16.520 --> 01:44:19.920
like to propose on this tenth anniversary of the USTP.
1607
01:44:20.359 --> 01:44:21.079
That's my comment.
1608
01:44:24.439 --> 01:44:30.680
Thank you Dan. And Sequatoria has a website. It's sequatoria
1609
01:44:31.159 --> 01:44:36.920
dot org and here is the link to access it
1610
01:44:37.279 --> 01:44:41.159
and read more about it. And I would say it
1611
01:44:41.319 --> 01:44:45.840
is important to fight death in every possible way. Bill
1612
01:44:46.039 --> 01:44:49.960
had mentioned that during his remarks. But the fact is
1613
01:44:50.119 --> 01:44:54.119
aging is not the only type of peril that can
1614
01:44:54.239 --> 01:44:59.520
befall us, and natural disasters are one example. War which
1615
01:44:59.600 --> 01:45:04.319
Lives Irish mentioned is another example. Getting into a car
1616
01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:09.720
accident is another example. Taking careless risks and getting killed
1617
01:45:10.199 --> 01:45:14.640
by a discretionary activity is another example. And I have
1618
01:45:14.760 --> 01:45:20.039
also pointed this out, especially for the younger viewers, please
1619
01:45:20.079 --> 01:45:25.600
don't take recreational drugs, because that's one way to really
1620
01:45:25.720 --> 01:45:30.840
dramatically shorten one's life expectancy, like the difference between dying
1621
01:45:30.920 --> 01:45:35.520
at thirty of an overdose and living to at least
1622
01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:40.039
eighty or so, even with the current state of medical care.
1623
01:45:40.479 --> 01:45:45.399
So I do think it's important to focus on every
1624
01:45:45.479 --> 01:45:50.079
possible way of avoiding death. I think Navin Jane also
1625
01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:56.359
said this in the documentary preview that Jose showed. Essentially
1626
01:45:56.439 --> 01:45:59.640
all of these advances are going to be available in
1627
01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:03.840
the coming decades, so don't do anything foolish to shorten
1628
01:46:04.279 --> 01:46:09.640
your lifespan right now. And yes, Mike Lausine, I did
1629
01:46:09.840 --> 01:46:15.399
just do a pr statement about not doing drugs, so
1630
01:46:16.319 --> 01:46:20.520
thank you for noticing. And we have some interesting comments
1631
01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:26.199
from our audience as well. Regarding all of these international
1632
01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:31.159
transhumanist endeavors. Luis Arroyo rights, imagine if all of these
1633
01:46:31.239 --> 01:46:35.560
parties and organizations pulled off a united action. I think
1634
01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:38.680
that can happen in the coming years, especially if in
1635
01:46:38.720 --> 01:46:42.720
the United States we create a culture of these public
1636
01:46:43.319 --> 01:46:47.359
pro radical life extension, pro transhumanist events. So let's see
1637
01:46:47.399 --> 01:46:50.960
how this rally for longevity rights goes and see then
1638
01:46:51.039 --> 01:46:55.199
if we could coordinate some sort of effort with our
1639
01:46:55.279 --> 01:46:59.319
fellow transhumanists in Europe as well and in other parts
1640
01:46:59.359 --> 01:47:04.199
of the world. Also, in regard to motivations for getting
1641
01:47:04.239 --> 01:47:06.960
people to support our movement, Luis writes that seeing the
1642
01:47:07.039 --> 01:47:10.000
future one wants to live in or create can help
1643
01:47:10.039 --> 01:47:14.039
a lot. And I will also point out William Gibson's
1644
01:47:14.079 --> 01:47:16.520
statement that the future is already here, it's just not
1645
01:47:16.680 --> 01:47:21.479
evenly distributed. So be on the lookout for examples of
1646
01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:25.439
the future being already here, with generative AI, for instance,
1647
01:47:25.520 --> 01:47:29.159
and the capabilities that it can put at your fingertips,
1648
01:47:29.319 --> 01:47:32.760
or going to these virtual enlightenment salons where we will
1649
01:47:32.840 --> 01:47:36.199
bring in some leading innovators to talk about their work
1650
01:47:36.239 --> 01:47:39.199
and their research, and you will see it here earlier,
1651
01:47:39.359 --> 01:47:44.760
much earlier than you will see it in the mainstream conversation. Also,
1652
01:47:45.159 --> 01:47:50.079
I think it's important to pay attention to what inspired
1653
01:47:50.159 --> 01:47:54.119
people to join our movement in the first place. So
1654
01:47:54.840 --> 01:47:58.600
Mike Lazine said that he has been a transhumanist ever
1655
01:47:59.119 --> 01:48:01.800
since he was a young person. He was interested in
1656
01:48:02.079 --> 01:48:06.560
popular mechanics, popular science, and another magazine he recalled the
1657
01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:10.920
name it was Omni Magazine, which he hadn't seen in years,
1658
01:48:11.039 --> 01:48:14.439
but it was available when Mike was a kid, and
1659
01:48:14.640 --> 01:48:21.680
there were proto transhumanist types of publications or films or
1660
01:48:22.079 --> 01:48:27.239
even computer games that were available when most of us
1661
01:48:27.359 --> 01:48:30.840
were much younger, even when many of us were kids,
1662
01:48:31.520 --> 01:48:36.039
and those are gateways into transhumanism. So not only do
1663
01:48:36.159 --> 01:48:39.680
we need to create new art and new media ourselves,
1664
01:48:40.239 --> 01:48:43.840
we should also think of creative ways to use existing
1665
01:48:44.640 --> 01:48:51.319
cultural products to get people interested in transhumanism. And now
1666
01:48:52.079 --> 01:48:56.359
we have five minutes left in this special tenth anniversary stream.
1667
01:48:56.720 --> 01:49:00.199
I would like to open this up to anybody who
1668
01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:04.560
has some comments to make before I make closing remarks
1669
01:49:04.720 --> 01:49:08.359
of my own. But this is your opportunity, hose A,
1670
01:49:08.520 --> 01:49:09.239
please go ahead.
1671
01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:13.760
Yes, I am very very excited. As you have seen,
1672
01:49:15.159 --> 01:49:17.680
I believe we live in magical times.
1673
01:49:18.279 --> 01:49:22.159
We are between the last mortal generation and the first
1674
01:49:22.399 --> 01:49:27.039
in mortal generation. So we have to accelerate this process
1675
01:49:27.640 --> 01:49:33.520
both scientifically, politically, also socially artistically.
1676
01:49:33.359 --> 01:49:35.920
And that is what we want to do in other
1677
01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:36.800
countries as well.
1678
01:49:37.239 --> 01:49:44.000
We have to collaborate the USA, Spain, Germany, Russia because
1679
01:49:44.039 --> 01:49:47.920
the biggest enemy of humanity is aging and death. The
1680
01:49:48.159 --> 01:49:52.640
enemy is not Russia. The enemy is not the Martians. No,
1681
01:49:52.760 --> 01:49:56.199
the Martians are not our enemy. They even exist. Yet
1682
01:49:56.640 --> 01:49:59.840
the enemy of all of humanity is agent and the
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and we have to collaborate, we have to work together,
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we have to accelerate this because every single day, one
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hundred thousand people die of age related disease, one hundred
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thousand people. And in fact, in OECD countries, in advanced
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economies like the USA, Europe, Japan.
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Ninety percent of the people, ninety percent die of age
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related diseases.
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They don't die of the Martians, of climate change, of terrorism,
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of wars of age, even though some people die of that,
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but altogether it's only ten percent, while ninety percent die
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of age related diseases. So that's the common enemy of humanity,
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and that is what we should drive forward altogether.
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Yes, indeed, thank you very much Jose for those remarks.
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And indeed, aging and death are are common enemies. And
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sometimes it is useful to have a common enemy to
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rally people around. But it's so tragic that so often,
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historically that common enemy has been some group of other people,
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and that has led to a lot of destruction. But
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if we can indeed create and advance this narrative of
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the common enemies being aging and death and the forces
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of ruin that I mentioned. That will also inspire people,
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and that will drive people to advance the kinds of
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technologies that we need to solve this problem of aging
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that is affecting all of us. If people considered it
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to be solvable, if people saw a sense of meaning
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and purpose in that, we would have an entirely different world.
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And that is the kind of world that the Transhumanist
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Party will strive to advance. And I want to thank
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everybody in our panel today, those who joined us earlier
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such as Zulten, Ishtvan and Liz Parrish, as well as
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those who are still here Charlie, Tom Dan and Daniel
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as well jose Bill art ramon the quality of our
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people is what leads to our movement being able to
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metaphorically punch above its weight, so to speak, because we
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currently have about forty four hundred members, and that is
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certainly a larger number than existed ten years ago when
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Zulten started. Really there were three members of the Transhumanist Party,
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Zultan and then Rowan Horn, who was his videographer, and myself.
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Of course. Sultan garnered a lot of publicity through kind
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of solo efforts reaching out to journalists driving the immortality ebus,
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but this is truly a joint effort and we need
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the brightest minds in the world to collaborate on this effort.
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And I think we do have some of the brightest
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minds in the world in the Transhumanist Party. We just
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need to continue reaching out to additional bright minds, and
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if you think you're one of them, please join us
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at Transhumanist dash party dot org slash membership. That is
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a way to start, though it is definitely not the
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only action that we would hope to see from you.
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There's so much that any given individual can contribute, and
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you can just see by the people who are here
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and their remarks and their involvement what it is possible
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to accomplish when we set our minds to it. And
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Daniel is showing this QR code associated with our tenth birthday,
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so please scan that QR code with your phone if
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you can, and see where it leads you. And in
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the meantime, I hope that we can all live long
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and prosper