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Hi, welcome to another episode of Rocky Mountain Ranch Research
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with me, Katie Page. We are here at the beautiful
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snippy 2026 event in the beautiful San Luis Valley. And
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I am here with good friend Trey Hudson from the
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Meadows Project.
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Thanks for having me. You know, don't say you're part
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of the Meadow Project. It's not like, you know, it's
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not like my project. You're part of it, too. So
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happy to be here.
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Thank you. So I want to talk a little bit
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about what you presented here today. And I got to
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see a lot of new things and your new film
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and things like that. So I Yeah, just introduce kind
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of for those who don't know what the Meadows is
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and what you presented yesterday.
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The Meadow is an area of extreme high strangers in
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the southeast. And it's been compared to places like the
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Marley Woods, the Sherman Ranch, your ranch, places like that.
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So it's something we've been researching for the past 10 years.
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And the really cool thing about it is the research
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modalities that we use in 2016 are And the phenomena
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we encountered in 2016 has evolved quite a bit into
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what we're doing in 2026. And one of the cool things,
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which you saw in my presentation, is we're encountering more
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non-human intelligences. We're encountering things that are interacting with us and,
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even more importantly, seem to have an interest in interacting
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with us as we develop a rapport. So we're using
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some exciting techniques. One of them is the Estes Protocol,
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which you saw. We're also using the God Helmet, which
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was developed by Dr. Michael Persinger back in the early 90s.
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So we're using that to help facilitate a situation where
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the NHL would be more comfortable to communicate with us.
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And in about a month, we're going to be going
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back out to the Meadows, and I'm working on a
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protocol for psionics. Ah, that's fantastic. So we're going to
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try using some of the psionics protocols there. with some
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of our team that are trained in remote viewing and
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or alumni of the Monroe Institute.
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Right. I, for one, I am so happy. Diane Hennessy-Powell
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is here as well. And just the whole opening up
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of the consciousness piece and the psionics piece, it was
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a missing link to a lot of these experiences. And
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something I caught in your presentation yesterday, Trey, that I
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found really fascinating was the use of the God helmet
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and the experience. What was his name?
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Sean. Sean.
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What I found fascinating, he was hooked up for what, 40,
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45 minutes? 40 minutes. 40 minutes. But to him, it
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felt like just like 5 or 10 minutes. Right. And
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the sensations in the footage you shared with that, hearing
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it from first-hand witness again, that's really important. you know,
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to hear what he experienced and then to see that
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you had the cameras going while he's, and then what
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you captured around that corresponding to what he was sensationalizing.
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And it's such a profound, it was really profound for
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me to hear that.
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Yeah, and that's one of the important aspects of the
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Anomalous Studies and Observation Group, which you're a member of
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and I run, is that we look at it from
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two perspectives. We look at it from the materialistic and
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imperial perspective, i.e. the equipment, the god helmet, the cameras,
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and all that, but just as important is the experiential.
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How is a human being experiencing this situation in our environment,
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in our universe? And I think that some of the
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stuff that we're doing, we actually are stepping out of
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that universe into other realms, and that's where the NHI
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he's very comfortable in interacting with us.
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And I think you bring up a really interesting point
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as well, is that, you know, you started this in 2016,
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and you said it, with your own, you're building a rapport.
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Right.
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With whatever is around in the meadows, and now it's
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taking a little bit, you know, to communicate.
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Well, you've got to experience some of that yourself. I mean,
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you know, we developed a rapport so much that it's
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comfortable actually touching people now.
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Wow, yeah.
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You know, and you got to experience that, and you
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saw Jessica experience that when you were with us out
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in the meadows, so. It's humbling. It's a little weird.
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Is it scary?
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I wouldn't say scary. You know, sometimes we will go
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into this, and especially like you saw in both videos
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where we were doing the Estes, where the NHI gets
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a little aggravated with this. It's like, you know, gets
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a little petulant. It's like, eh, you know, okay. If
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you're saying this is over, maybe we should just call
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it an evening and move on. So it's... You know,
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like with anything, when you're dealing with an unknown, I
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don't ever advise fear. But you need to be, you know,
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cautious of what you're doing. And, you know, unfortunately, you know,
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as you know and we've talked about, this kind of
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business is not without its own danger. There are health effects.
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That's right.
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You know, that, you know, can last you the rest
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of your life. So, you know, that's just part of it.
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So you need to be aware of what you're doing.
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And you guys do take measures to do protections. And
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I feel like you respect the phenomenon. And I appreciate that.
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So Trey and his team, okay, and I'm part of
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that team. But what I love about it is that
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you do look at both sides. You have your equipment,
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you're very scientific, but you're also open to the more
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spiritual side of things and the interaction. And you respect it. So, like,
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in the Orestes session, where it's like, enough, quit, stop, what,
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you know, I can't remember the exact words. Like, stop,
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just
stop. Okay, we're backing off.
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Yeah, and you were talking about, you know, the more
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metaphysical aspects of it. That's one reason we brought onto
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our team a licensed psychotherapist and hypnotherapist.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, we will actually do, like, guided meditation
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and all and kind of prepare ourselves to interact with
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this other realm. And then, if we have something that's unnerving...
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is that we have a psychotherapist that can help us
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work through those feelings. So we're ready to go out
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in the field again.
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That's really great. Well, I enjoyed your presentation so much,
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and I learned more. Sometimes people like us, we present
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and present and present. you have new things to share.
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I have new things to share. People have new things
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to share. So just because you think you saw somebody once,
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they have more, and they're learning, and they're growing, and
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there's new things. So I love that that's happening with you.
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What are the future plans for the meadows?
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Well, like I said, we're going out in about four weeks,
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so we're going to try some psionic protocols. Sometimes that
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stuff works. Sometimes it doesn't. The really cool thing is
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when we've done some CD5 stuff, is the results from
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the CE5 session do not manifest themselves until days later.
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Yeah.
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You know, so we're, you know, we have to be
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kind of patient with the phenomena. Yeah. So, you know,
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I'm just kind of rocking and rolling. I'll be with
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you at the MUFON conference.
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That's right.
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Yeah, I'll be speaking there. And hopefully we'll be doing
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some stuff in Wisconsin next year with the God Helmet,
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with the Modalities Expo.
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Cool.
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And people keep poking at me to write a third book,
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so I'm going to decide if I want to do that. Oh, yeah.
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Life is good. Life is great.
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That's great. All right. Well, I appreciate you taking the time.
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And we will see you in Cincinnati as well. So
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looking forward to that.
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Sounds good.
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All right. Thank you, Trey.
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Thank you.