رونوشت کامل Havasu First: Dave Johnson’s Case for Change in Lake Havasu City | Dave Johnson E51

speaking engagements, you know, we host our foundry deal at Wednesday, six to eight, every single Wednesday, and we film it, we put it on YouTube, and we've talked to the Republicans men's groups, both women's groups. 00:02:19.539 --> 00:02:26.819 We even talked to the Democratic women's group, which actually was one of the most fun, believe it or not, it was one of the most fun things I've done. 00:02:27.060 --> 00:02:31.860 But uh this one is the one I've been most excited about, and I'll tell you why. 00:02:31.939 --> 00:02:38.819 It's because every single one of these things, they ask you the same questions, you give them the same answers, you know, what are you gonna do? 00:02:38.900 --> 00:02:41.539 You say, Oh, infrastructure, beautification, this, that, and the other. 00:02:41.700 --> 00:02:44.020 And everybody that knows me says, Oh, yeah, Dave will get that done. 00:02:44.099 --> 00:02:46.020 And everybody that doesn't says, Oh, that's impossible. 00:02:46.099 --> 00:02:47.539 Those are campaign promises. 00:02:47.780 --> 00:02:52.420 But for once, I get to sit down next to a guy that is a doer and not a talker. 00:02:52.580 --> 00:03:02.099 And you know, we talked a little bit about that at lunch, but you know, to go out and actually do things and understand how corporate world works and understand basically what's driving the train, right? 00:03:02.180 --> 00:03:04.340 So you know, I really that that that means a lot. 00:03:04.420 --> 00:03:08.099 Yeah, I didn't know if we were gonna bring that up, but you know, that's where I think you and I see eye to eye. 00:03:08.259 --> 00:03:12.740 There is a huge difference between people that say they're gonna do something and the ones that will actually deliver. 00:03:12.900 --> 00:03:13.140 Sure. 00:03:13.300 --> 00:03:22.420 And I say it respectfully, but I think a lot of people are, you know, they talk a lot, but they don't deliver, you know, and uh that's what everyone's fear is during uh this particular campaign, right? 00:03:22.580 --> 00:03:27.620 And and um that's the one thing I've seen about you is you've you've done it, which kind of leads into you know the question. 00:03:27.780 --> 00:03:31.219 Let's talk a little bit about your background, who you are, how you got here, you know, that fun stuff. 00:03:31.300 --> 00:03:37.539 And you know, I want to talk about your uh you uh building building in unbelievable large weapons for the military. 00:03:37.780 --> 00:03:38.099 Sure. 00:03:38.340 --> 00:03:39.700 That's like close to my heart, man. 00:03:39.780 --> 00:03:40.740 I love guns and weapons. 00:03:40.979 --> 00:03:41.140 Sure. 00:03:41.219 --> 00:03:43.219 So I grew up in Carlsburg, California. 00:03:43.300 --> 00:03:44.819 Uh I am the son of an engineer. 00:03:44.979 --> 00:03:53.300 My dad, uh, when he passed away just from our patent searches, patent searches on surface level through Google, you know, he had 260-something patents. 00:03:53.700 --> 00:03:57.140 When I was 14,

uh, I started machining in the back of his shop. 00:03:57.219 --> 00:03:59.939 There were two or three machinists there when I first got hired on there. 00:04:00.020 --> 00:04:02.259 By the time I graduated high school, I was the only one there. 00:04:02.500 --> 00:04:06.900 So running manual lathe, mills, surface grinders, all sorts of things like that. 00:04:07.060 --> 00:04:15.140 Uh basically what I spent my youth doing, you know, and then everybody turns 18 or whatever, and F you dead, you know, like you got to have your little rebellious moment. 00:04:15.620 --> 00:04:18.099 So I wanted to be one of the better machinists in the world. 00:04:18.180 --> 00:04:27.219 So I left and I went up to Ontario, California at the time, which was a uh injection mold making, plastic injection mold making capital of the world, uh other than China. 00:04:27.379 --> 00:04:29.860 But you know, in America, that's where all the where the stuff is. 00:04:29.939 --> 00:04:35.379 And injection mold makers are the best machinists in the world because it's they have to be able to make anything and then make it backwards. 00:04:35.620 --> 00:04:35.939 Right. 00:04:36.419 --> 00:04:39.539 So anyhow, I did that for three or four years. 00:04:39.699 --> 00:04:43.459 Um and I was back then, this is you know, I'm old, right? 00:04:43.539 --> 00:04:45.619 So this is before the internet and before all that. 00:04:45.779 --> 00:04:51.219 If you wanted a pay raise back then, you'd go to the boss and you'd say, hey, you know, I want, you know, I think I'm worth more. 00:04:51.459 --> 00:04:55.060 And if they didn't agree with you, you basically quit and you go to the shop down the street, right? 00:04:55.219 --> 00:04:58.739 So that's the way that kind of industry worked back then. 00:04:58.819 --> 00:05:02.259 And you would look to see what shops were hiring in the newspaper. 00:05:02.500 --> 00:05:18.099 And back then, a top mold maker, and by a top mold maker, I mean, that guy's uh he's got a CNC going, he's running an EDM machines going at the same time, and he's running a you know a manual mill over here, like$60,000 worth of tools in his roll away, they were making about$26,$27 an hour. 00:05:18.259 --> 00:05:26.899 And I picked up a newspaper and I saw an ad in there for City Bus Driver,$40 an hour with benefits, and I said, Yeah, I'm not doing this anymore. 00:05:27.139 --> 00:05:31.219 So I looked around and I said, you know, who out of everybody my age is making the most money? 00:05:31.299 --> 00:05:33.299 And it was a guy by the name of Jay Densmore. 00:05:33.619 --> 00:05:40.579 And he was out selling stereolithography, which uh for layman's terms for people, it's basically 3D printing today, right? 00:05:40.819 --> 00:05:52.500 And back then, you know, if you had to prototype something like a pen cap, it would be, you know, 300 bucks and it was all based on size, like this water bottle to prototype that would have been about 1,800 to 2 grand back then out of stereolithography. 00:05:53.060 --> 00:05:56.419 Yeah, well now you know when a kid's a 3D printer at home, he print that thing for free. 00:05:56.899 --> 00:05:57.539 Yeah, yeah, totally. 00:05:57.619 --> 00:05:57.699 Yeah. 00:05:57.939 --> 00:06:03.699 But that's how you verify designs and whatnot before you actually made the injection molds, because if you have to change the molds, it's crazy expensive. 00:06:03.859 --> 00:06:04.019 Yeah. 00:06:04.179 --> 00:06:06.819 So Jay was selling SLA or stereolithography. 00:06:06.979 --> 00:06:14.979 So I went over to a company called Sycon, and I happened to have a lot of familiarity with SLA growing up in the back of an engineering firm. 00:06:15.139 --> 00:06:15.219 Yeah. 00:06:15.379 --> 00:06:19.619 So I became a sales rep for them, and I'm not gonna lie, we murdered it. 00:06:19.939 --> 00:06:27.219 Because sales guys are sales guys, but being a machinist, you know, I could sit down with engineers and say you know, reprints with them. 00:06:27.379 --> 00:06:34.259 And you know, a lot of these engineers nowadays, especially when 3D printing first came out, they were designing things that you could print but you couldn't make. 00:06:34.659 --> 00:06:36.899 They'd have big giant undercuts and the molds and things like that. 00:06:36.979 --> 00:06:40.419 And I'd say, well, if you just ditch that, you know, your tooling costs are gonna go down in half. 00:06:40.579 --> 00:06:45.939 So all the engineers loved me, and it was a it was really one of life's great experiences. 00:06:46.019 --> 00:06:49.379 You know, I I told you at lunch, you know, we talked about always answering the phone. 00:06:49.459 --> 00:06:58.739 And I was staying late one day and I answered the phone and I got a call from iTal Design, which was a concept car company, and they did a lot of concept cars for like Mitsubishi and Nissan and all that. 00:06:59.139 --> 00:07:10.339 And just seeing how it works behind the scenes, but also from then entertaining some of the VPs for like Mitsubishi at hockey games or you know, Honda. 00:07:10.579 --> 00:07:12.500 They were the baseball guys that we picked up. 00:07:12.819 --> 00:07:14.419 We had skyboxes everywhere. 00:07:14.500 --> 00:07:14.659 Yep. 00:07:14.819 --> 00:07:19.859 And getting to hang out with with people of that caliber was really, really cool, especially when you're, you know, mid-20s. 00:07:20.099 --> 00:07:20.739 Yeah, oh yeah. 00:07:21.060 --> 00:07:25.539 So after that, my family, we have a mental ill brother, and he started getting kind of violent. 00:07:25.699 --> 00:07:28.659 My mom basically asked me to come back to Carlsbad to help him out with it. 00:07:28.819 --> 00:07:31.139 And uh she was actually concerned my dad was gonna shoot him at one point. 00:07:31.459 --> 00:07:31.859 Oh, jeez. 00:07:32.099 --> 00:07:39.139 And so I went back to Carlsbad and I fired up the machine shop again and met a guy named Steve from uh Lee Aero Systems. 00:07:39.219 -->

00:07:40.419 They're still in business today. 00:07:40.579 --> 00:07:45.299 And um, he called me about six o'clock at night and he goes, Hey Dave, you know, do you got machines? 00:07:45.379 --> 00:07:45.699 I said, Yeah. 00:07:45.859 --> 00:07:47.139 And he goes, Can you make this? 00:07:47.379 --> 00:07:48.419 I said, Sure, we can make that. 00:07:48.579 --> 00:07:50.259 He goes, Can you make it by tomorrow morning? 00:07:50.500 --> 00:07:51.539 And I said, Okay. 00:07:51.859 --> 00:07:54.899 And the magic words, I don't care what it costs, out of zero. 00:07:55.060 --> 00:07:56.419 So I said, No problem, buddy. 00:07:56.500 --> 00:08:01.219 So I spent all night machining this thing and drop it off at his house, and a couple weeks later it happens again. 00:08:01.379 --> 00:08:02.419 A couple weeks later, it happens again. 00:08:02.979 --> 00:08:06.579 Finally I said, Hey Steve, why don't why don't I come over there and we'll just take a look at what's going on here? 00:08:06.819 --> 00:08:11.299 And so I started quoting their entire prototype deals, you know. 00:08:11.379 --> 00:08:18.259 So I would did it ended up where I'd they'd send me all the work, I'd sub it out to several different CNC shops, do what I could do manually. 00:08:18.419 --> 00:08:18.579 Yeah. 00:08:18.899 --> 00:08:27.379 But we brought a level of professionalism to it that they hadn't experienced before, mainly being, you know, quality control uh reports, material search, all sorts of timelines. 00:08:27.699 --> 00:08:28.979 Yeah, timelines, you know. 00:08:29.219 --> 00:08:30.899 So that we were actually delivering on time. 00:08:31.060 --> 00:08:33.779 And that was a very, very profitable venture for a lot of years. 00:08:34.100 --> 00:08:34.980 Yeah, I can imagine. 00:08:35.220 --> 00:08:43.060 So then we get to 2010-ish, 2000 mid-2010. 00:08:43.220 --> 00:08:47.299 I always learned what my future hell was holding by watching the news. 00:08:47.779 --> 00:08:53.060 Uh, you know, so doing these prototypes, uh, those were all weapons of tomorrow, right? 00:08:53.220 --> 00:08:56.019 So we quoted everything or built everything, actually. 00:08:56.180 --> 00:09:01.620 If you Google long shot uh and torpedo, you'll see a backpack that straps on a torpedo. 00:09:01.860 --> 00:09:06.420 And they'll drop it, they'll drop it out of a bomber and the wings deploy now, they can cruise it, you know. 00:09:06.660 --> 00:09:10.580 And we did guided artillery, which doubled the range of the bullets, and you could fly them through a window now. 00:09:11.139 --> 00:09:15.540 We did surveillance blimps, we did some of the stuff I can't even talk about today, believe it or not. 00:09:15.620 --> 00:09:17.379 But we did all kinds of cool projects. 00:09:17.540 --> 00:09:25.940 I actually quoted uh my little shop, I went up against General Atomic quoting uh Egypt's drone programs, and I was gonna win. 00:09:26.100 --> 00:09:29.940 And if that project went through, just even on the minimum scale. 00:09:30.340 --> 00:09:30.980 You wouldn't be here today. 00:09:31.300 --> 00:09:34.740 I I would have I would have stood to make about$30 million a year in my mid-20s. 00:09:34.820 --> 00:09:42.259 And it was I was right there, man, and all the lights were green, and then I was watching the news and oh, Egypt got overthrown today, huh? 00:09:43.300 --> 00:09:43.540 Yeah. 00:09:45.139 --> 00:09:45.940 That doesn't look good for me. 00:09:46.180 --> 00:09:46.340 No. 00:09:46.500 --> 00:09:56.420 So I'm watching the news in 2010, and Obama gave the speech about downsizing the military, downsizing the military budget by$489 billion to be exact. 00:09:56.660 --> 00:09:59.220 When they do that, they don't fire the existing troops. 00:09:59.300 --> 00:10:01.300 What they do is they take all your future weapons. 00:10:01.540 --> 00:10:05.940 If they have so many bombers or stealth fighters on order, they just scale all that way back, right? 00:10:06.420 --> 00:10:11.940 And so when they did that, you know, B being in that industry, you only your client list is like two people long, right? 00:10:12.259 --> 00:10:13.139 Yeah, yeah, totally. 00:10:13.460 --> 00:10:22.019 And uh so we hung out for about a year, and you know, I'm paying eight, ten thousand a month, you know, just in rent, and then you have electricity employees, and you know all the stuff you know what it is. 00:10:22.660 --> 00:10:25.300 And uh so I told my wife, we gotta get out of here, man. 00:10:25.379 --> 00:10:26.820 This is this is gonna sink us. 00:10:26.980 --> 00:10:32.420 And so my parents had built a house in Parker, Arizona, in the Moviality Keys in 1976. 00:10:32.660 --> 00:10:34.420 It's actually where I took my first steps. 00:10:34.580 --> 00:10:39.700 And I said, Stace, let's just go out there for a minute and catch a breath so we can stop the expenditures. 00:10:39.860 --> 00:10:42.259 And I'd had a brand new baby, no job. 00:10:42.420 --> 00:10:42.580 Yeah. 00:10:42.820 --> 00:10:46.100 You know, I had some, you know, we had money, but it was depleting quickly. 00:10:47.139 --> 00:10:48.420 Nothing coming in, it's all going out. 00:10:48.500 --> 00:10:48.580 Yeah. 00:10:48.820 --> 00:10:50.340 So we go and we hang out down in Parker. 00:10:52.259 --> 00:10:53.780 I got down there and we're there for a month. 00:10:53.940 --> 00:10:55.700 My wife says, I can't live here. 00:10:55.860 --> 00:10:56.820 And I said, No problem. 00:10:56.899 --> 00:10:57.540 So I get to talk to you. 00:10:57.700 --> 00:11:00.899 I had to Dave Plunkett, and I'm looking for a place where I could put my machines and everything, right? 00:11:01.060 --> 00:11:02.259 Get them out of California. 00:11:02.420 --> 00:11:04.340 And he says, Why don't you go up to Havasu and check it out? 00:11:04.420 --> 00:11:05.940 They got those big RV Garados up there. 00:11:06.019 --> 00:11:08.180 So we went up in 2011. 00:11:08.259 --> 00:11:11.379 I moved here and I put my machines in my garage.

00:11:11.460 --> 00:11:13.540 And uh was your wife for it at that time? 00:11:14.340 --> 00:11:14.820 She was. 00:11:14.899 --> 00:11:18.899 Uh, but you know, we were used to SoCal, you know, like you want to go find a job. 00:11:19.700 --> 00:11:20.580 Yeah, you want to go find a job. 00:11:20.660 --> 00:11:22.100 It's not hard to find a job, you know. 00:11:22.259 --> 00:11:28.500 And because I had so much baggage, you know, all this stuff is huge and it requires huge power and all this stuff, you know. 00:11:28.580 --> 00:11:30.019 And I said, we got to go somewhere it's cheaper. 00:11:30.100 --> 00:11:38.500 So we came out here and I went and I took a tour of Sterolite and I quickly found out there's no industry in this town and that you know, there was nothing for a guy like me. 00:11:38.580 --> 00:11:44.340 And so I started literally machining parts in my garage, stuff that I would charge, you know, 10,000 for for the aerospace stuff. 00:11:44.420 --> 00:11:45.620 I was doing it for like 800 bucks. 00:11:45.780 --> 00:11:46.259 Oh my gosh. 00:11:46.580 --> 00:11:48.340 Just to make the mortgage every month, you know. 00:11:48.899 --> 00:11:55.620 But uh I I quickly realized, you know, I had my personal website, which was River Day's place, and this is the middle of the recession, man. 00:11:55.700 --> 00:12:00.340 Like, I don't know if you know, but Wojabi County was the third poorest county in the nation in 2011. 00:12:00.660 --> 00:12:01.620 It got smashed, yeah. 00:12:01.860 --> 00:12:04.820 And so the boat builders, man, like everybody's just sitting there dying. 00:12:04.899 --> 00:12:11.940 And I said, Look, I went to all the boat builders and I said, Look, I will go, we'll photo the boats, we'll test the boats, we'll do write-ups. 00:12:12.100 --> 00:12:14.580 You know, you just got to pay me X amount a month, right? 00:12:14.660 --> 00:12:17.700 Which was really little money, like three, four hundred bucks, three hundred bucks, right? 00:12:18.100 --> 00:12:24.100 And it doesn't sound like a lot of money, but when you start adding up 40 of them, now you now you have income again, right? 00:12:24.259 --> 00:12:30.019 And so I am proud to say that every single manufacturer that advertised with me during the recession survived. 00:12:30.180 --> 00:12:30.820 That's really cool. 00:12:31.060 --> 00:12:33.460 And every single one that didn't didn't. 00:12:33.700 --> 00:12:34.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:12:35.220 --> 00:12:36.580 That's a rough, yeah, that's rough. 00:12:36.740 --> 00:12:38.580 Well, you had you had a good reputation even then. 00:12:38.660 --> 00:12:40.259 I remember you know me coming out here back in the day. 00:12:40.340 --> 00:12:41.700 I'd be coming out here for 35 years. 00:12:41.860 --> 00:12:42.100 Sure. 00:12:42.259 --> 00:12:45.060 You know, and and uh and you've been out here the whole time, man. 00:12:45.220 --> 00:12:48.180 Yeah, down to Parker mostly, but yeah, we used to go about the Havasu and all that.

00:12:48.259 --> 00:12:50.100 You know, I used to write for Hot Boat magazine. 00:12:50.180 --> 00:12:56.420 I'd I you know I have my own personal column in it, and I had, you know, I ran Hot Boat the website forum and all that stuff. 00:12:56.500 --> 00:12:57.940 So you just your roots are here. 00:12:58.019 --> 00:12:58.180 Yeah. 00:12:58.259 --> 00:12:59.460 It makes it your heart's here. 00:12:59.540 --> 00:12:59.860 Oh, yeah. 00:12:59.940 --> 00:13:00.580 You know, that's really cool. 00:13:00.740 --> 00:13:02.019 It's always been my favorite place on earth. 00:13:02.180 --> 00:13:02.899 Yeah, good for you. 00:13:02.980 --> 00:13:03.139 All right. 00:13:03.220 --> 00:13:08.180 Well, let's get in uh let's get into uh you know how you kind of got to into Havasu where you are today. 00:13:08.420 --> 00:13:14.580 And uh, real quick, just to kind of a disclosure for our audience, you know, uh I I shot with and videoed with Cal yesterday. 00:13:14.820 --> 00:13:20.899 The main objective for this video and for this this podcast is just to kind of again let everyone kind of hear your your world. 00:13:21.060 --> 00:13:23.860 And I love the fact you just shared your your kind of backstory. 00:13:24.100 --> 00:13:30.660 And then I just want everyone to know too is that this is set up in a manner where the there's no biased opinion. 00:13:30.740 --> 00:13:34.500 There's not me coming saying, hey, you know, Dave's better than Cal or Cal's better than Dave. 00:13:34.580 --> 00:13:41.620 It's just I want our audience to get to know each and every person for who they are and what their uh what their goals are for the city, right? 00:13:41.700 --> 00:13:42.580 Period end of story. 00:13:42.740 --> 00:13:42.899 Sure. 00:13:43.060 --> 00:13:55.220 So with that said, how'd you so let's let's go into like where you are today, what do you have working on separate than you know running for mayor and where and I want to I'm gonna start asking some questions about you know where you where you think the biggest deficiencies are, what are the real issues? 00:13:55.300 --> 00:14:00.980 And I want to open up that that you know, in essence, mic to just go deep as we can go because I have my concerns. 00:14:01.139 --> 00:14:03.860 I obviously have been knee deep in development here. 00:14:04.100 --> 00:14:05.700 There is some massive deficiencies. 00:14:05.780 --> 00:14:17.940 I'm not gonna go push too hard, but there are things that I like and don't like, and there's things that I think that can completely change the future outlook of Lake Havasu just by a simple, you know, a few adjustments. 00:14:18.019 --> 00:14:20.820 But with that said, yeah, let's talk a little bit about where you are today. 00:14:20.980 --> 00:14:21.780 What do you got going on? 00:14:22.019 --> 00:14:23.780 Well, just to say one thing real quick. 00:14:23.860 --> 00:14:26.740 I I like what you said there, you know, what the future of Havisu is. 00:14:26.820 --> 00:14:30.980 And the reality of it

is, is it's been a very contentious campaign so far. 00:14:31.139 --> 00:14:33.860 There's been a lot of it's almost like Trump versus Biden. 00:14:34.100 --> 00:14:35.620 I mean, people are losing their minds, right? 00:14:36.100 --> 00:14:41.540 But we are literally sitting on the biggest opportunity in Southwest United States. 00:14:41.940 --> 00:14:44.019 Dude, you're and I are gonna go into a rabbit hole after that. 00:14:44.500 --> 00:14:46.259 It's like the data supports it too. 00:14:47.060 --> 00:14:47.700 It's crazy. 00:14:48.019 --> 00:14:52.500 And it's just not, it's almost like they're pushing it away, right? 00:14:52.580 --> 00:14:58.660 And and it's not just on development, and it's not just it's on every single front, and it just does not make sense to me. 00:14:58.740 --> 00:15:09.780 So I you know, you and I were talking, there's there's a point in time where you you know you know something, you know something well, and then there's just there's no logic behind decision making, and you just kind of go a little fucking nuts, you know. 00:15:09.860 --> 00:15:13.860 You're like, what the hell is what like are you guys not understanding the positive impact? 00:15:14.019 --> 00:15:17.220 There's no negativity at all, a part of this play. 00:15:17.460 --> 00:15:23.940 Everything is positive for everybody involved, and you guys are just saying no or not allowing it to happen, or whatever the case may be. 00:15:24.019 --> 00:15:25.460 It's just it's incredible. 00:15:25.780 --> 00:15:28.259 Well, I it's I don't think it's intentional. 00:15:28.340 --> 00:15:35.940 I don't even I just think a lot of them are not familiar with that kind of with that level, I guess you would say, right? 00:15:36.340 --> 00:15:53.139 And you know, fortunately, I spent a lot of my youth with a lot of very, I mean, big power players, you know, entertaining the VBs a Honda and Matsubishi and you know, some of these people, you know, you get used to dealing with people on that scale where they can say something and and have a dramatic outcome happen just a few years later. 00:15:53.220 --> 00:15:57.139 So you you're very, very conscious of what you're talking about and what you're doing. 00:15:57.220 --> 00:15:57.460 Right. 00:15:57.620 --> 00:16:02.019 And you have to be comfortable with that level of person, right? 00:16:02.180 --> 00:16:04.100 And so not and not everybody is, you know. 00:16:04.180 --> 00:16:17.379 So you know, I think, you know, for me, of course, I'm I'm gonna be everyone has their own agenda, but my agenda, just to be completely transparent here, is I want to leave some wealth to my kids, I want to leave my business to my children. 00:16:17.540 --> 00:16:19.300 I'm really worried about where the world's going. 00:16:19.460 --> 00:16:20.899 I'm I constantly watch the news. 00:16:20.980 --> 00:16:24.899 I've written a book on kind of where the world was gonna go, and I was right, you know, six years ago. 00:16:25.139 --> 00:16:28.420 And this was right when the pandemic, you know, hit and all that money was pumped in. 00:16:28.500 --> 00:16:29.700 I call it synthetic capital. 00:16:29.860 --> 00:16:34.899 When that synthetic money was pumped in, that stimulus package and the PPP loans and all that, I saw it coming. 00:16:34.980 --> 00:16:40.660 I launched a fund to maintain to hedge against that and create cash flow because I was thinking 2008 all over again, right? 00:16:41.060 --> 00:16:42.019 I think we all did. 00:16:42.259 --> 00:16:46.980 And I have made massive sacrifices for my family to be out here. 00:16:47.139 --> 00:16:54.899 I I'm pretty much pushed my entire career into this location, but it's because I believe in it and I see the data, and that's where the wealthy is. 00:16:56.100 --> 00:16:57.300 People don't realize that, right? 00:16:57.379 --> 00:17:06.339 Like the normal day-to-day, nine to five, you know, you're if you're you're middle class, they don't understand what it takes to jump off the cliff and start a business. 00:17:06.500 --> 00:17:08.420 When you when you start a business, it's against human nature. 00:17:08.579 --> 00:17:13.940 Oh my god, you have you almost have to be a little bit narcissistic to know that what do they say? 00:17:14.019 --> 00:17:17.779 Uh, you know, entrepreneurs they jump off the cliff and they build the plane on the way down. 00:17:18.099 --> 00:17:18.660 Totally. 00:17:19.460 --> 00:17:21.299 Yep, take it to make it the whole thing, man. 00:17:21.539 --> 00:17:25.220 And if you don't finish the plane, splat, you know, because there is no parachute, you know. 00:17:25.699 --> 00:17:27.459 But the biggest risks are the biggest rewards. 00:17:27.619 --> 00:17:28.259 That's correct. 00:17:28.500 --> 00:17:29.699 And that's where capital comes from. 00:17:29.859 --> 00:17:30.099 Yep. 00:17:30.259 --> 00:17:30.980 And you know it's crazy. 00:17:31.059 --> 00:17:32.579 You I'll we'll just go right into this. 00:17:32.659 --> 00:17:33.059 Screw it. 00:17:33.220 --> 00:17:34.019 I want to talk about this. 00:17:34.099 --> 00:17:37.939 You know, the private equity play, you and I were talking about some of the big money check writers that are out here. 00:17:38.259 --> 00:17:42.179 It's big the reason why they want to come here and do and invest here, it's because they love the place. 00:17:42.259 --> 00:17:42.419 Yeah. 00:17:42.579 --> 00:17:45.779 They're not doing they can go any, they could probably make more money other places. 00:17:45.859 --> 00:17:46.259 Oh, absolutely. 00:17:46.500 --> 00:17:57.299 You know, what I'm, you know, what you're the one of the stories you shared with me at lunch was that you know some of the your buddies that have some money, we're thinking about just trying to build something that would be good for the city and line, you know, line a street with you know palm trees. 00:17:57.379 --> 00:17:58.579 Like, why is that such a bad thing? 00:17:58.740 --> 00:18:00.259 Why would we say no to that?

00:18:00.500 --> 00:18:01.459 You know, it's stuff like that. 00:18:01.539 --> 00:18:08.899 It's just it's things, it's it's like I agree, and that's I know that's a dumbed-down version, but that is that dumb to say no to in essence. 00:18:08.980 --> 00:18:10.740 Now that there's other reason, I'm sure whatever. 00:18:10.899 --> 00:18:24.899 But you know, when you when you when you kind of that compounds into other components that I've I've witnessed and and experienced, and as much as I do love, you know, a lot of the people internally and that have helped me in many ways, I just think that there should be some sort of reform. 00:18:25.059 --> 00:18:28.099 There's got to be an adjustment because the way it's work, it's not working. 00:18:28.179 --> 00:18:31.699 And they and like guys like me are getting tired and we don't want to keep playing here. 00:18:31.939 --> 00:18:34.019 There's some there's some basic problems right now. 00:18:34.259 --> 00:18:40.980 For example, if you're employed by the city, they just have uh an annual pay review and you get a a raise no matter what. 00:18:41.299 --> 00:18:42.899 And it's not performance-based. 00:18:43.059 --> 00:18:52.339 And I understand coming from you know private to the municipality that in private, if you have people that are just sitting there collecting paychecks, they're never getting a raise. 00:18:52.419 --> 00:18:54.659 Or even they're I'm an employer, I'll tell you that right now. 00:18:54.899 --> 00:19:01.539 I've never I have never had one good employee employee that had was just a you know chasing a paycheck. 00:19:01.619 --> 00:19:01.779 Yeah. 00:19:01.939 --> 00:19:03.379 They were they were chasing the clock too. 00:19:03.619 --> 00:19:03.939 Correct. 00:19:04.339 --> 00:19:14.019 You know, so you you you I think that's in terms of reform, if you want to see some massive changes here, we have to look at who's doing a good job and benefit them. 00:19:14.099 --> 00:19:26.579 And if you're not doing a good job, I mean, it's not within the mayor, mayor oral powers to fire people, but it is certainly within my powers and powers of counsel to lean on the city manager who can then make those kind of decisions, right? 00:19:27.139 --> 00:19:30.019 And that gets into a whole new deal of like what's going on. 00:19:30.099 --> 00:19:34.419 And actually, our system of government out here, you know, the mayor's technically a ceremonial position. 00:19:34.500 --> 00:19:35.779 It's not a position of power. 00:19:35.939 --> 00:19:37.779 And that changed under Mark Nexon. 00:19:37.859 --> 00:19:45.779 He turned it into a full-time job and way overstepped the bounds of what you're supposed to do, and that continues to this day. 00:19:45.939 --> 00:19:54.339 And Charlie Cassins was a city manager back then, and Charlie Cassons put in a policy that council is not to talk to staff. 00:19:54.980 --> 00:20:04.419 And I was actually at a meeting a little while ago, and you know, some, I'm not gonna name names, but I will say two or three of our city council members were there, and they said, We're not allowed to talk to the staff. 00:20:04.500 --> 00:20:05.939 And I started laughing. 00:20:06.099 --> 00:20:07.699 And they said, What are you laughing about? 00:20:07.859 --> 00:20:13.539 I says, and what planet do you live on that you are not allowed to talk to the people that work for you? 00:20:14.019 --> 00:20:15.859 I said, I would laugh at them, just go talk to them anyways. 00:20:15.939 --> 00:20:16.419 What are they gonna do? 00:20:16.500 --> 00:20:17.619 They can't fire you. 00:20:18.500 --> 00:20:20.099 Yeah, there's the one in the influence, right? 00:20:20.259 --> 00:20:20.659 Yeah, yeah. 00:20:20.819 --> 00:20:30.259 So I mean, you know, currently, you know, our city manager, he's a he's a very alpha individual, and he's kind of running through everybody like a hot knife through butter. 00:20:30.659 --> 00:20:34.980 And I got a great story about that's only humiliating for him, but I got a great story about that if you want to hear it. 00:20:35.220 --> 00:20:36.419 It's up to you, you know. 00:20:36.500 --> 00:20:48.419 So you watch all these city council guys and you know, all these they're they're nice people, don't get me wrong, but you know, oh, I scheduled a meeting with uh, you know, the police chief or the this or the that, and you know, they went and told me how it works. 00:20:49.859 --> 00:20:53.220 I'm not interested in how it works because it's not working. 00:20:53.699 --> 00:20:54.259 Right. 00:20:54.500 --> 00:20:57.379 And so, you know, I I didn't schedule meetings with any of them. 00:20:57.459 --> 00:20:59.619 I said, I'm just gonna go in and I'm gonna change things, right? 00:20:59.699 --> 00:21:04.419 And so eventually uh city manager's office calls me and says, Hey, they want to sit down with you. 00:21:04.500 --> 00:21:05.059 I said, Okay. 00:21:05.220 --> 00:21:07.379 So I go to his office, he goes, What do you want to talk about? 00:21:07.859 --> 00:21:09.220 And I said, You called me. 00:21:10.179 --> 00:21:11.459 I don't want to talk about anything. 00:21:11.779 --> 00:21:16.419 So we sat there and then we, you know, we had a nice 30, 45-minute conversation, but you already know where I'm going with this. 00:21:16.659 --> 00:21:17.379 Oh yeah, right? 00:21:17.939 --> 00:21:18.659 Oh yeah. 00:21:19.459 --> 00:21:23.939 And uh anyhow, at the very end of it, I says, You get me my 20 million dollars for Rhodes? 00:21:24.099 --> 00:21:24.899 He goes, 20 million? 00:21:25.059 --> 00:21:25.539 I don't think so. 00:21:25.619 --> 00:21:26.819 And I says, You're a smart guy, buddy. 00:21:26.899 --> 00:21:28.339 You got a couple months to figure it out. 00:21:28.740 --> 00:21:30.259 Two weeks later, he calls me. 00:21:30.500 --> 00:21:31.859 Hey, let's go have a beer somewhere. 00:21:31.939 --> 00:21:34.659 And I says, I don't want to be seen with you, and you don't want to be seen with me. 00:21:34.819 --> 00:21:36.019

So why don't you come over to my house? 00:21:36.419 --> 00:21:37.859 He came over to the house, I says, Let me guess. 00:21:37.939 --> 00:21:38.579 You found my money? 00:21:38.899 --> 00:21:41.859 And he says, if it's the will of the council, we have your money. 00:21:42.019 --> 00:21:44.019 I said, That's see, it's not hard to figure out. 00:21:44.179 --> 00:21:47.220 Yeah, you just gotta lay down the law a little bit, right? 00:21:47.459 --> 00:21:49.459 And since then I've had several meetings with him. 00:21:49.699 --> 00:21:55.779 It turns out he's a really sharp guy and I really like him a lot, but you kind of have to give him more direction, you know. 00:21:55.859 --> 00:21:59.699 And I actually asked him that because when he said that, is it the will of the council and the mayor? 00:22:00.019 --> 00:22:01.619 I said, What's the current will? 00:22:02.500 --> 00:22:03.859 I don't know. 00:22:05.459 --> 00:22:07.539 Part of being in charge is you gotta be a leader. 00:22:07.939 --> 00:22:10.740 So if you direct that guy, he'll do what needs to be done. 00:22:11.139 --> 00:22:24.579 And that's kind of the that kind of parallels into the conversation we had earlier was you know, w you know, you you you hit the nail on the head, my opinion, is you said, Look, you know, you never Built a high rise before, but if you if someone tasked you to build a high rise, would you be able to figure it out? 00:22:24.659 --> 00:22:25.859 And I'm like, absolutely, I would. 00:22:26.019 --> 00:22:26.740 Yeah, absolutely. 00:22:26.899 --> 00:22:30.980 I have resources and people and write the whole nine yards I can call upon and put it together, you bet. 00:22:31.139 --> 00:22:40.339 So to clarify that, you know, we were talking before this, and you know, the biggest thing for people in this election is he has no political experience, right? 00:22:40.579 --> 00:22:44.339 And so I what I suggested to Ryan here is, well, you've never built a high rise, right? 00:22:44.659 --> 00:22:47.220 Or in another example, we were talking about a business. 00:22:47.539 --> 00:22:51.539 And what they could or couldn't do, and we have found the problem to be management. 00:22:51.619 --> 00:22:57.299 And I said, Well, Ryan, you've never done that industry, but you yourself could go in there and fix that business. 00:22:57.539 --> 00:23:01.299 You don't need experience to know how to do things. 00:23:01.619 --> 00:23:05.379 You need balls and intelligence. 00:23:05.779 --> 00:23:10.419 We need common sense and some sort of you know, you just need to you just kind of have to have some sort of business acumen. 00:23:10.500 --> 00:23:13.459 You know, if you run successful businesses, they're all the same. 00:23:13.619 --> 00:23:17.939 The LLC filings are the same, opening up the same CPA and tax attorneys and management. 00:23:18.419 --> 00:23:19.059 Budgets are budgets. 00:23:19.859 --> 00:23:29.220 Yeah, they're not so and then managing people is all the same, you know, you know, helping your employees, you know, you know, position themselves for retirement's all the same, how to create culture is all the same. 00:23:29.379 --> 00:23:29.699 Correct. 00:23:29.779 --> 00:23:31.699 You know, how to how to hire is all the same. 00:23:31.779 --> 00:23:32.980 Like it's it's all the same. 00:23:33.379 --> 00:23:41.299 It's just the the maybe the end-to-end, like the little, let's say the the the little details about a business, you can learn that. 00:23:41.379 --> 00:23:42.339 That's easy, you know. 00:23:42.579 --> 00:23:46.740 Well, it's just it's it's all the same game, it's just slightly different rules, right? 00:23:46.899 --> 00:23:47.539 You know what I mean? 00:23:47.619 --> 00:23:50.980 When you come to a municipality, there a lot of things are governed by the state, right? 00:23:51.059 --> 00:23:52.099 Like you can't. 00:23:52.740 --> 00:23:58.659 I would love to have a$303 million budget and that airport and a checkbook and say, we're building the hangers. 00:23:59.299 --> 00:24:00.579 But there's laws against it. 00:24:00.740 --> 00:24:02.579 You can't spend more than X, Y, Z. 00:24:02.659 --> 00:24:06.740 I think it's a hundred grand before you have to send it out to a to a public bid, right? 00:24:06.899 --> 00:24:08.579 For for various projects. 00:24:09.059 --> 00:24:13.379 So you just learn the rules of that game and then you manage it correctly, right? 00:24:13.699 --> 00:24:17.299 So we were talking earlier, and I said, I bet you do you right. 00:24:17.459 --> 00:24:21.299 I says, you don't build pools, but I'm sure you've built a pool in your in your developments before. 00:24:21.379 --> 00:24:21.939 And he said, Yeah. 00:24:22.500 --> 00:24:24.819 What does a four million dollar pool look like to you? 00:24:25.139 --> 00:24:26.740 I said something you build in Vegas. 00:24:26.899 --> 00:24:29.059 Yeah, it's like it's like Caesars, right? 00:24:29.220 --> 00:24:29.539 Oh, yeah. 00:24:29.699 --> 00:24:35.220 So why is our Olympic pool being quoted at four million dollars? 00:24:35.379 --> 00:24:38.980 And that doesn't even include a building to put the pool equipment in. 00:24:39.299 --> 00:24:41.859 That's another like several hundred thousand dollars. 00:24:42.179 --> 00:24:51.299 And I just look at that and I say, currently, you look at city council, you look at the mayor, they drop these things in front of them and it's yes or no. 00:24:51.939 --> 00:24:54.099 But nobody's asking why. 00:24:54.899 --> 00:24:57.939 Me, I would say, why does this cost four million dollars? 00:24:58.579 --> 00:25:03.459 Because unless this thing is something out of Vegas, it shouldn't cost four million dollars. 00:25:03.779 --> 00:25:09.299 And when they say, Well, we can't use these businesses because they don't have an engineer. 00:25:09.779 --> 00:25:10.099 Really? 00:25:10.259 --> 00:25:13.379 We couldn't just hire an interim engineer to get the engineering done. 00:25:13.939 --> 00:25:16.980 The city could do that,

and then you could use whatever pool company you want. 00:25:17.379 --> 00:25:20.019 But nobody's, you know, oh no, we got to use this guy. 00:25:20.259 --> 00:25:22.740 Well, it turns out the guy they picked didn't have an engineer either. 00:25:22.899 --> 00:25:26.819 You know, it's the the whole thing is like you said, it's not working. 00:25:26.899 --> 00:25:34.899 And you just have to start asking why and and and really drilling into the issues of why what what about this cost four million dollars? 00:25:34.980 --> 00:25:37.220 Because I that I can't wrap my head around this. 00:25:37.459 --> 00:25:39.299 I can't wrap my head around the courthouse. 00:25:39.459 --> 00:25:40.500 $12.8 million? 00:25:40.819 --> 00:25:42.259 They'll they'll claim it's$10. 00:25:42.740 --> 00:25:45.139 But then when you start looking into it, look at the supplies. 00:25:45.779 --> 00:25:48.339 Really, you need two million dollars with a paper and pencil? 00:25:48.579 --> 00:25:51.139 No, it's they they stuck it in there that way, right? 00:25:51.220 --> 00:25:54.179 And that's just looking at a budget and saying, okay, we know what you did here. 00:25:54.419 --> 00:25:55.379 It's over$12 million. 00:25:55.699 --> 00:25:58.019 Is there anything about that building that's$12 million? 00:25:58.819 --> 00:26:02.659 Not if the T if I'm having a hard time. 00:26:03.459 --> 00:26:06.819 Even with the bulletproof this and bulletproof that,$12 million? 00:26:06.899 --> 00:26:08.019 I mean, what are we launching? 00:26:08.099 --> 00:26:08.659 Satellites here? 00:26:08.899 --> 00:26:10.099 We build some pretty large stuff. 00:26:10.179 --> 00:26:12.099 I'll tell you right now, I don't see$12 million in that thing. 00:26:12.179 --> 00:26:15.539 No, but do you know what our IT budget is for Lake Havazil? 00:26:15.859 --> 00:26:16.740 I can only imagine. 00:26:16.899 --> 00:26:20.419 I think it's like$12 million annually for an IT budget? 00:26:20.500 --> 00:26:22.419 Yeah, I don't even know how that's even possible. 00:26:22.579 --> 00:26:25.379 And I deal with high-level compliance in my IT's network. 00:26:25.699 --> 00:26:26.259 You know, yeah. 00:26:27.059 --> 00:26:29.139 We keep saying, babe, where are you gonna get all the money to do all this stuff? 00:26:29.220 --> 00:26:29.779 I'm like, I don't know. 00:26:29.859 --> 00:26:34.500 We're gonna line out of the budgets and find out where we're launching space shuttles out of here for 12 million bucks. 00:26:35.539 --> 00:26:37.220 I understand, dude, and I understand. 00:26:37.299 --> 00:26:39.619 Like, we have a control room that most people haven't seen. 00:26:39.699 --> 00:26:40.659 You know, I've seen pictures of it. 00:26:40.819 --> 00:26:41.379 I've never been in it. 00:26:41.459 --> 00:26:43.779 I actually look forward to taking my kids through it after we win. 00:26:44.019 --> 00:26:48.579 But uh, you know, there's there's some really cool stuff in like Avisue, especially for emergencies. 00:26:48.659 --> 00:26:49.939 But$12 million? 00:26:51.379 --> 00:26:51.699 No. 00:26:52.019 --> 00:26:54.419 Yeah, no,$4 million for a pool? 00:26:54.579 --> 00:26:56.819 I mean, on a private side. 00:26:57.539 --> 00:26:58.579 What does that park cost? 00:26:59.059 --> 00:27:00.099 The the the Commons? 00:27:00.179 --> 00:27:00.339 Yeah. 00:27:00.500 --> 00:27:01.939 I call it the Shehee Park. 00:27:02.179 --> 00:27:04.819 At the Commons, it's 4.7 million and going. 00:27:04.980 --> 00:27:06.500 Oh my gosh, 4 million bucks. 00:27:06.579 --> 00:27:09.220 Yeah, I heard it was four or four and a half million bucks at one point. 00:27:09.459 --> 00:27:10.980 And the bathrooms aren't work, do they? 00:27:11.859 --> 00:27:13.299 The bathrooms are in, but they're locked. 00:27:13.379 --> 00:27:18.659 You know, it's it's a public park in the middle of downtown, and they say they this thing is so far. 00:27:18.819 --> 00:27:26.500 Actually, uh, like half of some Republicans just posted all the news articles from 2019 through like 23, right? 00:27:26.659 --> 00:27:34.259 And in 2019, it was supposed to have like an 85-foot screen and the stage, and it looked dude, it was really, really cool, right? 00:27:34.339 --> 00:27:34.500 Yeah. 00:27:34.819 --> 00:27:38.899 And then it changed to this, and then it was like, oh, we're gonna have a stage over here and keep it open grass. 00:27:39.139 --> 00:27:44.819 Then somewhere down the line, we hung a hard left and and we got what we got. 00:27:45.220 --> 00:27:50.419 That thing looks like it belongs in Portland to me because it's it doesn't shade anything, it doesn't do anything. 00:27:50.579 --> 00:27:54.179 It's my mom's 83 and she's got a touch of dementia. 00:27:54.259 --> 00:28:01.139 And every time I drive her by that thing, she looks at it, and because she's got dementia, she goes, that's the stupidest thing I've ever seen. 00:28:01.379 --> 00:28:03.539 You know, it's it's it's just wow. 00:28:03.779 --> 00:28:10.579 Yeah, you know, and but that is you know, there is, you know, the you know, we laugh about it, but there's seriousness to that, you know, like because you know, when you when you add it all up, right? 00:28:10.659 --> 00:28:22.500 It's this problem, this problem, this problem, and you're allocating funds for this pool, you're allocating funds for that, and you look at the millions of dollars that are being wasted, that could have been allocated to something that really would actually, in my opinion, affect the public a whole lot better. 00:28:22.579 --> 00:28:23.059 Sure, you know. 00:28:23.220 --> 00:28:32.259 And I and I know, and I think that's the way that's but with regard to that park, just before I let you go, I happen to notice that they finally put in the giant electrical box, they put it right where the stage was supposed to go. 00:28:33.139 --> 00:28:35.939 So it's I mean, it's literally bang, bang, bang. 00:28:36.259 --> 00:28:40.419 If you could do something wrong, it's like they're

intentionally doing it at this point. 00:28:43.059 --> 00:28:46.980 If you could flip a coin and it always came up wrong, that's what's happening. 00:28:48.740 --> 00:28:50.819 So why is everything so ass backwards? 00:28:51.059 --> 00:28:51.459 I don't know. 00:28:51.619 --> 00:28:52.259 I don't understand. 00:28:52.500 --> 00:28:57.459 Well, you know, remember, in all fairness, just so everybody knows that I'm not the best guy. 00:28:57.619 --> 00:28:59.539 I've only lived here going on like three years. 00:28:59.619 --> 00:29:02.579 You know, I've been coming out here for 35 years, as I mentioned before. 00:29:02.819 --> 00:29:05.539 But I don't know, like I was, dude, I'm a hermit, man. 00:29:05.619 --> 00:29:07.699 I literally just go to work and then I go home, right? 00:29:07.779 --> 00:29:15.059 I go to lunch, and I was going to lunch every day at Northside Growth because I was building out north, you know, and and so I just and then I would go home, man, and I would be home at like nine o'clock at night. 00:29:15.139 --> 00:29:17.539 I'm kind of aware, and then I was gone 50% of my time. 00:29:17.699 --> 00:29:20.099 So I never really got pulled into anything else. 00:29:20.259 --> 00:29:26.179 But what's happened recently is I've I'm now being forced to really pay attention just because of the level of business that we're doing here. 00:29:26.339 --> 00:29:28.019 And it's starting to open up the eyes. 00:29:28.099 --> 00:29:30.579 And I'm like, you know, I have resources and I have an ability. 00:29:30.819 --> 00:29:34.259 If if people are willing to listen to some of my ideas, maybe it can be implemented. 00:29:34.339 --> 00:29:35.459 And that's the point, you know. 00:29:35.619 --> 00:29:46.019 Now, when I mentioned in the last uh in the public hearing, you know, there may be a way to help some of that infrastructure by, you know, and and then we ran into Cameron, and I was like, this is what you know, this may be able to do. 00:29:46.179 --> 00:29:50.419 You know, and I think those are the things that I just want people to consider because I don't come from here. 00:29:50.500 --> 00:29:55.299 I come from, you know, I've done$3 billion in transactions, I've overseen a lot of construction development. 00:29:55.379 --> 00:29:57.059 We have in-house fund control. 00:29:57.299 --> 00:30:00.339 What that means is that I can't let me ask you some questions real quick. 00:30:00.579 --> 00:30:00.980 Sure. 00:30:01.220 --> 00:30:03.220 You've done$3 billion in transactions. 00:30:03.299 --> 00:30:06.339 You're doing business in Tennessee right now and here, right? 00:30:06.500 --> 00:30:08.579 And you've done transactions all over the place. 00:30:08.740 --> 00:30:09.220 Yep. 00:30:09.939 --> 00:30:13.379 How friendly is the city of Lake Habasu to work with? 00:30:13.699 --> 00:30:17.939 Oh boy, you know how my all my projects are approved, so I can say it now, right? 00:30:18.019 --> 00:30:18.819 No, I'm just kidding. 00:30:18.899 --> 00:30:23.939 Um, you know, everybody individually I genuinely like as a but I think I don't know. 00:30:25.539 --> 00:30:25.699 I know. 00:30:25.779 --> 00:30:26.980 I okay, fair enough. 00:30:27.139 --> 00:30:38.980 I I'm very disappointed, and it's because my disappointment is only because I've had other experience with other developments in other cities that are much larger, much more complicated than this, the ones that I have now. 00:30:39.220 --> 00:30:41.059 I work with developers all over the country. 00:30:41.220 --> 00:30:51.059 Back to backstory, my uncle was one of the presidents of Standard Pacific, left there, went to um Holland Partners, he went to Western National, he built 33,000 apartment doors for Irvine Company. 00:30:52.099 --> 00:30:57.619 I was working for a civil engineering firm that was doing, you know, DR Horton, uh Poulty Homes, Beezer. 00:30:57.699 --> 00:31:01.939 You know, I have an extensive background in development, capital funding, and raising. 00:31:02.099 --> 00:31:04.339 You know, I've managed a hundred million dollar debt fund. 00:31:04.419 --> 00:31:09.539 I was funding loans for developers all over the country, high-end homes in Beverly Hills and Bel Air. 00:31:09.619 --> 00:31:15.299 I mean, we went through, I mean, we're talking, you know, um, side of mountains type development, right? 00:31:15.539 --> 00:31:16.980 I mean, in Laguna Beach. 00:31:17.059 --> 00:31:19.059 I mean, in difficult times to do this. 00:31:19.539 --> 00:31:20.659 Very difficult, very strict. 00:31:21.059 --> 00:31:23.059 I mean, very different, difficult things. 00:31:23.299 --> 00:31:25.299 And I was sharing one example for you. 00:31:25.459 --> 00:31:31.859 At the city of San Antonio, if you do a pre-app, right, or let's say we have to, like, I had to move one of our buildings on our apartments, right? 00:31:31.939 --> 00:31:34.099 Mind you, this is a uh a three-story product. 00:31:34.339 --> 00:31:37.699 We had to move one of our buildings when we had to resubmit to move that building. 00:31:37.859 --> 00:31:41.859 There was a$2,600 like uh expedite fee for review. 00:31:42.019 --> 00:31:43.859 It was like a 72-hour review. 00:31:43.939 --> 00:31:45.539 Now all we had to do is pay them. 00:31:45.699 --> 00:31:49.939 That, or we go back to like a whole possible 90-day turnaround. 00:31:50.099 --> 00:31:53.379 The fact that we just had to pay that review, we asked, what's the review fee go? 00:31:53.459 --> 00:31:56.339 And then we'll look, we're just paying people overtime to be able to do the review. 00:31:56.419 --> 00:31:57.699 Well, why aren't we doing that here? 00:31:57.939 --> 00:32:01.379 So that's good for the people that's that's good for the people that are getting overtime, right? 00:32:01.459 --> 00:32:03.939 It's good for you, the developer, because it's done and quicker. 00:32:06.099 --> 00:32:08.500 What happens to your development if you got to sit there and wait 90 days? 00:32:08.579 --> 00:32:09.779 Oh, so

how much money does that cost? 00:32:10.259 --> 00:32:11.059 So we'll go to the weeds. 00:32:11.220 --> 00:32:14.980 Look, every time I raise capital for one of my projects, the clock starts when the capital gets deployed. 00:32:15.139 --> 00:32:15.379 That's correct. 00:32:15.539 --> 00:32:18.099 So you're looking at a pref, whatever that structure is. 00:32:18.259 --> 00:32:23.939 When you look at when I have, you know, millions of dollars under management, that burn rate is incredible. 00:32:24.019 --> 00:32:32.819 And every time the city goes, Oh, well, we're not sure about this, or we're not sure about this, and I personally think they're not taking this very serious, I look at it and go, hey, that you guys have no idea. 00:32:32.980 --> 00:32:43.139 When you tell me it's gonna take six weeks or three weeks or two weeks, and it takes six months, like it's burning holes into my pocket mostly because I don't take it out of my client's pocket, it comes out of my pocket. 00:32:43.539 --> 00:32:48.899 And so you're in essence, I of course I kind of get my teeth come out a little bit, and I'm like, You're fucking with my family now. 00:32:49.059 --> 00:32:54.339 So it makes me look at it, and just to be candid with you, my entire team pulled together and said, we don't ever want to do business out here again. 00:32:54.419 --> 00:32:55.699 So it's getting to that point. 00:32:55.779 --> 00:32:57.220 We don't, it's too risky. 00:32:57.699 --> 00:32:58.819 Like, I love this town. 00:32:58.980 --> 00:33:00.740 You know, we're bringing millions and millions in. 00:33:00.899 --> 00:33:01.299 Hundreds of millions. 00:33:01.459 --> 00:33:02.740 Why can't we be looking hundreds of millions of dollars? 00:33:02.819 --> 00:33:03.779 Yeah, I was trying to be humble. 00:33:04.419 --> 00:33:05.539 Don't sell yourself short though. 00:33:05.619 --> 00:33:09.859 Yeah, it's hundreds of millions of dollars, and it's private because institutional capital will not do this. 00:33:09.939 --> 00:33:14.019 We have a line, we had an LOI with a line of credit from JP Morgan for 87 million. 00:33:14.179 --> 00:33:18.659 They will not allow us to pull that line out here unless we have the project well close to fund it. 00:33:18.740 --> 00:33:26.019 Like what like we're gonna be sticks in the air to get some capital from JP Morgan, or if we're doing a build-de-suit for a big retail center, something of that nature. 00:33:26.099 --> 00:33:26.659 But dude, it's so. 00:33:27.139 --> 00:33:32.099 Without getting too far into the weeds here, the point that I was trying to make you love this town. 00:33:32.259 --> 00:33:33.220 Oh, I love this town. 00:33:33.379 --> 00:33:40.259 You live this town, you are trying to improve the town, and there's resistance. 00:33:41.539 --> 00:33:42.179 Why? 00:33:42.819 --> 00:33:52.659 I don't understand when someone's bringing in that type of movement, yeah, and I hear through nothing but positive, they love what we're doing, and and they've said

it you know publicly that they love what we're doing. 00:33:52.899 --> 00:33:55.859 Why is it that we're not being treated accordingly? 00:33:56.339 --> 00:34:03.139 Any other city in America, my one of my really good friends is the single largest independent home builder in Arizona. 00:34:03.539 --> 00:34:06.259 He builds a lot of homes, needless to say, right? 00:34:06.740 --> 00:34:12.340 Well, he built, you know, probably 10 specs here just over the years, you know, and he's building houses for himself. 00:34:12.659 --> 00:34:22.579 And he looked at me one day and he goes, Dave, I have done entire communities, and it was easier to do than to build a house. 00:34:22.820 --> 00:34:33.539 Well, we just we just learned through paradigm storage, they learned, and this is from my GC and for my third parties, that the city has never phased a project in like the way they did. 00:34:33.620 --> 00:34:36.500 They just CO buildings, and that's like a full, complete CO. 00:34:36.660 --> 00:34:40.820 Paradigm storage has multiple buildings and CO in each building, but the whole project's not CO, right? 00:34:40.900 --> 00:34:48.820 You just see apparently they've never done something like that before, which is great because they cut their teeth and learned it, but like, bro, like that's a big problem. 00:34:48.980 --> 00:34:51.860 And the amount of shit we had to deal with because they were learning. 00:34:52.579 --> 00:34:54.820 So this is what we go full circle to. 00:34:55.220 --> 00:35:02.180 I don't, I I think a lot of these people are really nice people, but I don't think they have dealt with high-level things like this before. 00:35:02.420 --> 00:35:06.180 And you have to be comfortable in a room with high-level people. 00:35:06.500 --> 00:35:14.019 Well, and it's facts there and it shows because they are outsourcing the majority of our stuff now for a third-party review out of Phoenix or what have you, which is fine. 00:35:14.100 --> 00:35:17.860 And we okay with, we're okay in some cases, but that just pushes back everything. 00:35:17.940 --> 00:35:19.539 Because what happens is they push it out. 00:35:19.620 --> 00:35:24.019 First of all, they review it, they identify they don't that they don't know it well enough, right? 00:35:24.100 --> 00:35:25.460 So, how long did that take? 00:35:25.620 --> 00:35:32.420 Then they go, okay, well, we're just gonna go ahead and offload this out and and to a third party, which now they get to wipe their hands on turn times. 00:35:32.500 --> 00:35:34.740 They go, well, it's not our problem if it takes forever for it to come back. 00:35:34.820 --> 00:35:37.140 So they just that that that's the problem. 00:35:37.620 --> 00:35:38.740 There's your first problem, right? 00:35:39.059 --> 00:35:41.300 They don't care about time because it's not their money. 00:35:41.700 --> 00:35:44.260 They don't care about money because it's not their money, right? 00:35:44.980 --> 00:35:46.019 I care about money. 00:35:46.660 --> 00:35:48.900 I'm a private guy, uh, you know, entrepreneur. 00:35:48.980 --> 00:35:52.980 And if you tell me a pool cost four million dollars, I'm not gonna say yes or no. 00:35:53.140 --> 00:35:54.500 I'm gonna say why? 00:35:54.660 --> 00:35:54.900 Yeah. 00:35:55.140 --> 00:35:56.980 Why does it cost four million dollars? 00:35:57.140 --> 00:35:59.780 Why don't we get out our little budget here and light item that? 00:35:59.860 --> 00:36:05.300 Because I want somebody to tell me where the four million comes from, especially when that doesn't even house the pool equipment. 00:36:05.539 --> 00:36:08.900 Well, and I know there's tons of contractors that would come in and just look at that and be like, no way. 00:36:09.059 --> 00:36:10.820 How many contractors would do that for free? 00:36:10.980 --> 00:36:11.860 Well, that are free. 00:36:12.260 --> 00:36:14.180 We couldn't use one of our local companies, right? 00:36:14.340 --> 00:36:20.500 We couldn't use Mojave pools because they didn't have an in-house engineer and they gave, you know, they gave it Concord, who also didn't have an in-house engineer. 00:36:20.660 --> 00:36:24.820 But why couldn't the city say, We'll bring in an engineer to engineer the thing? 00:36:24.980 --> 00:36:26.180 That's well under 100,000. 00:36:26.340 --> 00:36:29.300 That's like what, 20 grand, maybe, depending on what you're doing there. 00:36:29.380 --> 00:36:31.140 But you know, 20 to 50, let's call it. 00:36:31.300 --> 00:36:31.539 Okay. 00:36:32.100 --> 00:36:36.579 We could bring that in, get the engineering done, and then sub it to one of our own local companies. 00:36:37.539 --> 00:36:37.860 Why? 00:36:38.180 --> 00:36:41.059 I think the only thing I can I can think of is it from a liability side. 00:36:41.300 --> 00:36:45.780 But if the but the in but the the the engineer has its own liability, yeah, right? 00:36:45.860 --> 00:36:47.860 So they're really you're they're subbed in. 00:36:47.940 --> 00:36:49.940 That's not that's not on the city, that's the engineering firm. 00:36:50.019 --> 00:36:51.620 Whoever you hire is still liable for that. 00:36:51.860 --> 00:36:55.700 Well, honestly, this this conversation is so low level just to talk about a fucking pool, bro. 00:36:55.780 --> 00:37:00.100 Like, to be real, to talk about engineering on a pool, like it's like, dude, this is so low level, to be honest. 00:37:00.420 --> 00:37:03.780 And then a four million dollar pool, like I just I yeah, I get you, I'm with you. 00:37:04.019 --> 00:37:06.019 But it's like but it's there's so many different ways to do that. 00:37:06.260 --> 00:37:09.460 The reason why I wanted to have that conversation is because it's low level. 00:37:09.780 --> 00:37:19.220 We don't need to get into roads and infrastructure and asphalt and lifetimes and the fact that we only budgeted two million dollars for roads in 2027, which is insanity. 00:37:20.019 --> 00:37:23.940 The low-level conversation that I like is it's relatable to

everybody. 00:37:24.100 --> 00:37:26.100 Yeah, and it's everybody's been in a pool. 00:37:26.260 --> 00:37:29.860 Everybody knows that if you have a million-dollar backyard, you got a resort. 00:37:30.500 --> 00:37:34.740 I'd like to know how a lap pool comes in at 4 million, because that is insane. 00:37:34.820 --> 00:37:35.860 Yeah, and it's relatable. 00:37:35.940 --> 00:37:39.300 Whether you're rich, whether you're poor, whether you're powerful, whether you're homeless. 00:37:39.539 --> 00:37:42.100 You say four million dollar pool, they're gonna say why. 00:37:42.820 --> 00:37:44.579 And that encompasses it. 00:37:44.740 --> 00:37:45.860 Yeah, it connects to everything. 00:37:46.100 --> 00:37:46.579 Yeah, for sure. 00:37:46.660 --> 00:37:51.140 And it makes it just kind of if you so, and then if you dump it down to that, then it's like what else? 00:37:51.460 --> 00:37:52.579 So, well, that's what I'm saying. 00:37:52.820 --> 00:38:00.820 So, you know, when that then we get into the infrastructure and the water means, and then you get into, you know, how are you gonna fix all this stuff all the way all the way up to air service, right? 00:38:01.220 --> 00:38:05.860 But when you ask a basic question and nobody can give you an answer, you got a problem. 00:38:06.100 --> 00:38:10.340 Let me ask you some of these questions too that I asked Cal yesterday because I want to make sure that we're all on the same page. 00:38:10.820 --> 00:38:11.460 Tourism. 00:38:11.700 --> 00:38:18.500 Let's talk about tourism revenue, kind of where you're seeing the world with tourism, what's coming in right now, um, where's some of that money being allocated? 00:38:18.579 --> 00:38:20.900 If you know, I mean, obviously it's going towards the budget, right? 00:38:21.059 --> 00:38:32.740 Um, but what what what let's talk about and I love you would know I think more than anybody else because you run River Dave and you obviously have you know Cat Fest and you know and uh um uh what's it called? 00:38:32.820 --> 00:38:34.019 Um the other one, the big one. 00:38:34.260 --> 00:38:34.660 Desert storm. 00:38:34.820 --> 00:38:35.220 Desert storm. 00:38:35.380 --> 00:38:36.340 I can never think of the word bad. 00:38:36.420 --> 00:38:42.900 But anyway, so you got them all back, you know, you kind of control all that, which is where the I don't control Desert Storm, to be clear, but I did help build desert storm. 00:38:43.059 --> 00:38:44.100 But you did cat, yes, I'm sorry. 00:38:44.420 --> 00:38:48.660 So yeah, so you but you see all these these bodies coming in because you're knee deep in that type of community, man. 00:38:48.740 --> 00:38:50.260 Talk a little bit about tourism out here. 00:38:50.660 --> 00:38:54.180 Okay, so we have a a company called Go Lake Havasu. 00:38:54.340 --> 00:39:02.260 It's a 501 basically, and what we do currently is we have a 1% food and beverage tax and a and a and a bed tax, right? 00:39:02.579 --> 00:39:12.660 That brings in$4.2 million, 2.1 of that goes to the general fund under the guise of paying police officers overtime for events and holiday weekends. 00:39:12.820 --> 00:39:14.420 The other 2.1 is divided. 00:39:14.579 --> 00:39:21.140 1.6 goes to go Lake Havasu,$500,000 goes to the PED, the partner in economic development, which I'll get to them in a minute. 00:39:21.380 --> 00:39:24.340 So$1.6 million goes to Go Lake Havasu. 00:39:25.220 --> 00:39:28.019 This is gonna go right back to that$4 million pool. 00:39:28.340 --> 00:39:30.180 But we looked it up, right? 00:39:30.260 --> 00:39:32.900 I'm sitting there and I'm looking at us, what does Go Lake Havasu do? 00:39:32.980 --> 00:39:35.700 I mean, they got a website, it's got a calendar, it's pretty cool. 00:39:35.860 --> 00:39:38.900 They do run our visitor center, which is very nice, right? 00:39:38.980 --> 00:39:41.539 Uh their total budget's actually$1.8 million. 00:39:41.940 --> 00:39:46.660 The visitor center brings in about$200K a year and clothing sales and whatnot. 00:39:46.820 --> 00:39:51.380 And in their budget, it's listed as private, almost like donations, but that's where that money comes from, right? 00:39:51.860 --> 00:40:00.900 So I start looking at to go like have a sue, and I'm looking at it, and it's you know, static picture of a kid in an open bow of a bay liner, like and it says, go for it. 00:40:01.700 --> 00:40:03.059 And I'm like, huh. 00:40:03.700 --> 00:40:04.180 All right. 00:40:04.340 --> 00:40:09.380 And it in Facebook, you could actually look up and see what your competitors are doing for paid ads and all this stuff. 00:40:09.539 --> 00:40:14.660 So I just looked up every one of their ads and I looked up Bullhead, right? 00:40:14.740 --> 00:40:24.340 And Bullhead used to have something similar, an outside tourism board, and they just brought it in-house and they got like a guy with a handicam or whatever, and he's just like, you know, the river's great today, right? 00:40:24.420 --> 00:40:35.380 And if you look at the stats from Bullhead to what we're spending$1.6 million on, yeah, they're killing us. 00:40:35.780 --> 00:40:39.940 And we had a Go Lake Havasu work session at a city council. 00:40:40.019 --> 00:40:43.140 It was anything but a work session, which we'll come to that later again. 00:40:43.380 --> 00:40:50.019 But I actually found a kid with a jet boat out here that's outperforming them, an iPhone at a jet boat, right? 00:40:50.500 --> 00:40:54.740 And so I start to question well, how how are these people getting paid? 00:40:54.820 --> 00:40:56.019 And how, you know, what is all this? 00:40:56.100 --> 00:40:59.220 So I looked up their contract and they're on a performance-based contract. 00:40:59.539 --> 00:41:01.620 Problem is, is nobody's ever seen the performance. 00:41:01.700 --> 00:41:03.380 There's no oversight whatsoever. 00:41:03.620 --> 00:41:18.579 And the way that they're monitoring their performance is to say Kingman and Bullhead, their amount, their occupancy of

hotels is this, and it went down to this, and ours didn't go down, so we're doing good. 00:41:19.380 --> 00:41:20.180 I am not kidding. 00:41:20.260 --> 00:41:22.500 That's literally how they how they do this. 00:41:22.820 --> 00:41:24.740 Now, there are other ways of doing this, right? 00:41:24.820 --> 00:41:26.660 You can do what's called contract tourism. 00:41:26.820 --> 00:41:28.579 It's literally profitable right out of the gate. 00:41:28.660 --> 00:41:31.940 You can go to these trade shows up in Vegas, and they have tour bus companies. 00:41:32.100 --> 00:41:44.820 And the tour bus company says, Hey, we're hitting the Grand Canyon, we're hitting uh Flagstaff, and we're hitting Winslow, and we want to put the London Bridge on there, we'll guarantee you six bus loads a week, 60 people in a bus. 00:41:44.900 --> 00:41:45.860 They stay the night. 00:41:45.940 --> 00:41:52.900 You can literally do the math on the hotel occupancy, the tax, and you can sign contracts with them and be profitable. 00:41:53.059 --> 00:41:54.740 Game game day one, right? 00:41:55.620 --> 00:41:56.260 It's okay. 00:41:56.340 --> 00:42:02.180 I mean, it's it's one way of doing it, it's guaranteed, at least it's guaranteed money, so you're not just throwing money down a rat hole or not knowing where it's going. 00:42:02.740 --> 00:42:05.460 But the reality of it is times have changed, man. 00:42:06.420 --> 00:42:17.059 We don't need a tourism board to go out and attempt to compete with River Dave's place because I have a film crew, right? 00:42:17.860 --> 00:42:19.460 We make boating videos. 00:42:19.620 --> 00:42:21.140 You're never gonna beat us at that. 00:42:21.620 --> 00:42:28.900 We don't need a tourism board to go out and try to compete with, I don't know, how many influencers are in this gym right now? 00:42:29.220 --> 00:42:29.539 Oh, yeah. 00:42:30.019 --> 00:42:36.260 The thing that changed, everybody's got a film studio, and there is thousands, there's hundreds of thousands on holiday. 00:42:36.660 --> 00:42:37.940 Fourth of July's coming up. 00:42:38.180 --> 00:42:43.620 How many videos will be on social media saying I'm having a great time in Lake Havasu? 00:42:43.860 --> 00:42:46.019 And do you want to know what's better than a sales pitch? 00:42:46.660 --> 00:42:47.780 A personal endorsement. 00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:48.660 Oh, yeah, for sure. 00:42:48.900 --> 00:43:00.980 So when somebody says, I had a blast in Lake Havasu, these are the crazy things that we had fun doing in Lake Havasu, I don't care if you gave me a hundred million dollars, I can't compete with 50,000 kids with iPhones. 00:43:01.380 --> 00:43:04.180 Social media is a reality TV show that people get addicted to. 00:43:04.260 --> 00:43:05.780 It's the it's the FOMO, right? 00:43:06.019 --> 00:43:08.740 So people see it all through social media, it's free to market. 00:43:09.059 --> 00:43:15.300 And when you have that many people that are, in essence, in one spot that are loving life, that's it's it's word of mouth. 00:43:15.700 --> 00:43:21.460 So at that point, how much money would you put towards trying to brand tourism? 00:43:21.620 --> 00:43:22.660 You're not gonna compete with that. 00:43:22.900 --> 00:43:24.500 You really don't need much at all, if anything. 00:43:24.980 --> 00:43:25.140 Yeah. 00:43:25.220 --> 00:43:31.700 I mean, you'd probably want to just build awareness for just kind of to cater to all walks of life out here, but you wouldn't need nearly that much money. 00:43:31.860 --> 00:43:33.059 I mean, that's insane. 00:43:33.380 --> 00:43:40.420 Because honestly, even if I if I if I were to, and I'm just really thinking out loud here, and we're we're very stretch strategic when it comes to marketing, as you know. 00:43:40.660 --> 00:43:46.260 I couldn't even use 1.6 million and sit down and go, I don't even know where I would put that to to try to build awareness for tourism. 00:43:46.340 --> 00:43:48.980 I don't even know where where where I could get the numbers from for that. 00:43:49.140 --> 00:43:51.220 I don't even know how to collect the data. 00:43:51.539 --> 00:43:59.780 I mean, I'm sure if I understood their current situation and how they're doing it, but I mean, I don't even know how to collect that type of data and how it is actually drill really bringing people here. 00:44:00.100 --> 00:44:00.740 It isn't. 00:44:00.900 --> 00:44:01.940 That's the first thing it isn't. 00:44:02.180 --> 00:44:08.420 So one one, we don't need it, but two, you know, one way you can bring in tourism, you mentioned Super Cat Fest West earlier. 00:44:08.900 --> 00:44:12.100 That brings in more jets than any other single event, right? 00:44:12.340 --> 00:44:20.100 And there's you know, five, five, six thousand people at any given time, so probably more like ten or fifteen going through the event down at the Riviera on Friday. 00:44:20.579 --> 00:44:21.780 And Saturday night. 00:44:22.100 --> 00:44:24.900 The way that that deal works is different than every other poker run. 00:44:25.059 --> 00:44:28.900 I designed that to actually be able to track how much money it brings in. 00:44:29.059 --> 00:44:35.780 And so the way we do our poker run is you bring your receipts to the card tournament, and every hundred bucks is a playing card. 00:44:35.940 --> 00:44:37.780 Every 500 bucks is a hand, right? 00:44:38.740 --> 00:44:41.300 Literally the first year I get a phone call. 00:44:41.780 --> 00:44:42.500 What's the max? 00:44:43.059 --> 00:44:44.340 So what do you mean what's the max? 00:44:44.660 --> 00:44:45.460 What's the max? 00:44:46.980 --> 00:44:47.539 I don't know. 00:44:48.100 --> 00:44:48.660 20 grand. 00:44:48.980 --> 00:44:50.980 They're like, no, dude, we just spent like 70 grand. 00:44:51.700 --> 00:44:53.220 Well, what did you spend 70 grand on? 00:44:53.700 --> 00:44:59.220 Well, we're gonna retrofit our center console with all new you know 500 instead of 400. 00:44:59.460 --> 00:45:01.700 So it's like, you know,

we spent 350 grand. 00:45:01.860 --> 00:45:04.500 I'm like, dude, we're gonna be counting cards till Christmas here, guys, right? 00:45:04.740 --> 00:45:07.539 But this is how we kind of try to track it. 00:45:07.620 --> 00:45:09.460 So now we set the max at 10,000. 00:45:09.700 --> 00:45:15.300 But I usually end up with three or four million dollars worth of receipts, and that's just from the people that bring them that are participants, right? 00:45:15.700 --> 00:45:20.180 So the total total overall taxable income on that event, I would have to guess at more like 20. 00:45:20.500 --> 00:45:21.860 Desert Storm is insane. 00:45:22.019 --> 00:45:22.340 Oh, yeah. 00:45:22.579 --> 00:45:25.539 60, you know, 50,000 people going up and down that street. 00:45:25.620 --> 00:45:27.700 Every one of them's buying ice, beer, fuel. 00:45:27.940 --> 00:45:28.260 Whatever. 00:45:28.420 --> 00:45:31.059 I mean, the the economic impacts of that are insane. 00:45:31.380 --> 00:45:33.780 Gary, do you want to generate tourism and do it for free? 00:45:34.019 --> 00:45:40.019 The Martelli brothers are literally at war with crit down in Parker with their with their off-road race. 00:45:40.500 --> 00:45:43.860 Call them and say, we're willing to work with you and we want to be on the circuit. 00:45:43.940 --> 00:45:44.900 They'll be here tomorrow. 00:45:45.059 --> 00:45:45.300 Yeah. 00:45:45.460 --> 00:45:47.140 I can call Greg Mansfield right now. 00:45:47.220 --> 00:45:52.100 He puts on uh thun, you know, uh Thunderboats down in you know Bayfair in San Diego. 00:45:52.260 --> 00:45:58.100 We can have unlimited hydros here for I think they said 60 grand, right? 00:45:58.180 --> 00:46:02.579 Which actually I'd run GP boats, you know, the big blown alcohol bills are way louder and well cooler. 00:46:02.900 --> 00:46:04.660 You can do that for like 15 grand in. 00:46:05.059 --> 00:46:07.539 You can have full-blown races up here, and it's cheap. 00:46:08.019 --> 00:46:08.900 And that brings people. 00:46:09.059 --> 00:46:10.420 The Martelli brothers would be free. 00:46:10.500 --> 00:46:14.019 If you added prize money to that, you'd be the number one race, right? 00:46:14.180 --> 00:46:19.380 Yeah, you give me$1.6 million, and I tell the Martelli brothers, hey, we'll throw in 100 grand on first place. 00:46:19.620 --> 00:46:22.740 You would have every race team, you'd have the Mexican teams coming to America. 00:46:22.980 --> 00:46:23.539 Well, I'll direct. 00:46:23.860 --> 00:46:24.740 I'll give you an idea. 00:46:24.820 --> 00:46:29.380 I mean, you know, that this is like your side of the world too, just to kind of give you a little bit that's happening here. 00:46:29.539 --> 00:46:32.579 Within, and my my contract will vouch for this one. 00:46:32.900 --> 00:46:47.220 Within the first two weeks when we opened this gym because of our cage, I had four huge promoters that wanted to come in and rent out my space for$40,000 a night, give me$20,000 or$30,000 in additional

incentives, move all of our equipment and do this once every quarter. 00:46:47.300 --> 00:46:52.660 And they would have a pay-per-view, full-blown fight with professional fighters throughout the entire country come here and fight. 00:46:52.900 --> 00:46:57.220 There, there's that much power from people that have that influence that come out here and enjoy it. 00:46:57.380 --> 00:47:02.660 They're like, if we can bring that here now, I sponsor two fighters right now that are like nine and no and eleven and no. 00:47:02.900 --> 00:47:05.300 I have more professional athletes sitting in this gym. 00:47:05.380 --> 00:47:12.980 And Joe will probably tell you, I we from being in California, I have more professional athletes in this gym than I've ever been in any gym in Southern California. 00:47:13.140 --> 00:47:14.980 You know, so it's impressive how much is that. 00:47:15.140 --> 00:47:16.019 Well, it's weird, isn't it? 00:47:16.100 --> 00:47:16.260 Weird. 00:47:16.420 --> 00:47:16.820 It's crazy. 00:47:17.539 --> 00:47:21.620 This little, this little tiny town, you know, it's it's you know, we're in the real estate game, right? 00:47:21.700 --> 00:47:29.780 And you're reading these these articles online, and it's like, you know, the the best place to buy or invest, right? 00:47:29.860 --> 00:47:41.300 This is you know, kind of during the COVID area, and you'd see something like the Hamptons or you know, Nantucket, you know, these world-famous places are you know, you know, Houston, right? 00:47:41.460 --> 00:47:42.820 And then it'll say Lake Havatu. 00:47:43.380 --> 00:47:44.100 And you're like, really? 00:47:44.420 --> 00:47:46.500 Our names up with these guys, you know? 00:47:46.820 --> 00:47:54.340 And then, you know, after COVID, it was like the the biggest property loss predictions is gonna be, you know, this place, this place, Lake Havatu, right? 00:47:54.420 --> 00:47:55.460 And you're like, oh my god, really? 00:47:55.539 --> 00:47:56.660 We're on that list too, right? 00:47:57.059 --> 00:48:00.900 But for such a small town, you're you're absolutely right. 00:48:00.980 --> 00:48:05.860 There's more players that come through here, and there's so much opportunity. 00:48:06.420 --> 00:48:07.940 I mean, I cannot tell you. 00:48:08.100 --> 00:48:10.019 You're talking about the gym, dude. 00:48:10.500 --> 00:48:12.900 Go over to Chawbones and look around. 00:48:12.980 --> 00:48:17.140 These people that are in there, if you know who they are, you know who they are. 00:48:17.460 --> 00:48:18.900 You know, and it's crazy. 00:48:19.380 --> 00:48:27.860 It's crazy the people that come through here, and they want to see growth and they want to see things nice and clean and new, and they want resources and grocery stores and restaurants. 00:48:28.260 --> 00:48:30.500 I told you about my buddy, you know, he nobody knows of it. 00:48:30.579 --> 00:48:40.900 You know, he's got like 85 million bucks, and he's like, Dave, you know, I'll I'll help fund a gateway down, you know, a gateway down on the south end, and we'll put a hundred palm trees down here, we'll do all this stuff. 00:48:41.140 --> 00:48:43.780 And and so many of these conversations have happened. 00:48:43.940 --> 00:48:46.180 And I and I said, Why don't you just go do it? 00:48:46.420 --> 00:48:48.500 And and well, we're waiting for you to win. 00:48:48.660 --> 00:48:50.980 And I'm like, Well, that's kind of why don't you just go do it? 00:48:51.220 --> 00:48:53.140 Well, guys like us want to deal with guys like us, you know. 00:48:53.220 --> 00:48:55.059 And I'm like, okay, I get it, whatever, you know. 00:48:55.620 --> 00:48:56.740 And I I can't explain it. 00:48:56.820 --> 00:48:59.220 You know, I wish they'd just do it anyways, because I want what's best for the town. 00:48:59.300 --> 00:49:02.420 I don't want necessarily honestly, me winning mayor is not what's best for me. 00:49:02.579 --> 00:49:02.980 Yeah, yeah. 00:49:03.220 --> 00:49:05.059 This is gonna cost me a bunch of money. 00:49:05.300 --> 00:49:11.620 Well, yeah, yeah, this is you know, and that's what I was saying in the beginning, you know, being able you know, you're you're basically taking shots, you're taking votes, man. 00:49:11.700 --> 00:49:13.700 Right, just why why sign up for it almost, right? 00:49:13.780 --> 00:49:14.420 I'm sure we've been. 00:49:14.660 --> 00:49:18.180 You know, somebody asked me that uh at the last foundry meeting. 00:49:18.260 --> 00:49:19.460 I said, why would you do this? 00:49:19.620 --> 00:49:21.140 And I'll ask you, Ryan. 00:49:22.019 --> 00:49:31.940 If you've lived here 16 years, if you love the city through and through, and you had the ability to fix it, would you? 00:49:32.180 --> 00:49:32.740 Yeah, for sure. 00:49:32.900 --> 00:49:34.660 And I have thick skin, so I can deal with it too. 00:49:34.740 --> 00:49:35.300 So yeah, and you can see that. 00:49:38.740 --> 00:49:40.579 Well, that's part of actually yeah. 00:49:41.300 --> 00:49:42.660 I know who's gonna back me. 00:49:42.900 --> 00:49:47.220 You know, the good thing is is I think for me, that's one of the reasons why I want to do this podcast, you know. 00:49:47.620 --> 00:49:50.180 Not only for the community, but I I want to know too. 00:49:50.420 --> 00:49:55.620 And and at the end of the day, we I am, I want to be around like-minded people. 00:49:55.780 --> 00:49:57.059 Yeah, but it's really true. 00:49:57.220 --> 00:50:00.820 If you really understand who's driving the bus, you know the destination. 00:50:01.059 --> 00:50:01.460 Correct. 00:50:01.620 --> 00:50:04.980 And that I think everyone's so worried about the unknown in their own personal life. 00:50:05.380 --> 00:50:09.539 Everybody's so worried about what do they call that? 00:50:09.700 --> 00:50:12.180 Analysis, paralysis, and all that, right? 00:50:12.820 --> 00:50:19.300 They look at something and they say, they they they're not able to envision a 10-year or a 15 or a 20, right? 00:50:19.700 -->

00:50:25.700 And you can take a look at certain developments, like even your own development, and I'm not I'm not banging on you here, but there's 68 units. 00:50:26.019 --> 00:50:30.820 I personally feel that if you took about six units out of that thing, it would be a better development, right? 00:50:30.900 --> 00:50:31.780 And I think you feel the same way. 00:50:32.100 --> 00:50:33.539 Sure, yeah, we'd be bigger units. 00:50:34.019 --> 00:50:38.340 But in planning and zoning, they basically forced your hand to do that, right? 00:50:38.579 --> 00:50:38.980 Yes. 00:50:39.300 --> 00:50:41.059 Okay, so now we're gonna get to the second part. 00:50:41.300 --> 00:50:44.019 During the city council meeting that I'm I witnessed, right? 00:50:45.220 --> 00:50:48.579 That action item was to amend the general plan. 00:50:48.660 --> 00:50:51.059 That means it is changing the zoning, right? 00:50:51.220 --> 00:50:51.460 Right? 00:50:53.220 --> 00:50:56.660 If you're amending the zoning at that point, I'll bet through out the window. 00:50:56.740 --> 00:50:57.940 You don't have to have 68 units. 00:50:58.019 --> 00:51:06.420 You could say, hey, we're gonna go have a meeting with planning and zoning tomorrow, and we're gonna do this project because this way it would be better for the community than that way. 00:51:06.980 --> 00:51:08.740 But right now it's yes or no. 00:51:08.980 --> 00:51:09.620 Yes or no. 00:51:09.860 --> 00:51:11.539 No why or we'll look into it. 00:51:11.780 --> 00:51:14.019 No why or we'll work with you. 00:51:14.660 --> 00:51:21.300 I want to work with you to make sure that the things that we do are the best for the city, not just yes or no. 00:51:21.539 --> 00:51:22.900 Well, and this is my concern, right? 00:51:22.980 --> 00:51:28.260 You know, uh just to be very transparent here, you know, this is being recorded, but there's I'm gonna be honest there, right? 00:51:28.420 --> 00:51:30.019 So you nailed it. 00:51:30.340 --> 00:51:36.180 If but why would I why would I feel forced to continue to keep that 68 units? 00:51:36.260 --> 00:51:39.620 It's because they said that's what they're they won't approve anything else besides that, right? 00:51:39.860 --> 00:51:40.820 Well, that's stupid. 00:51:41.059 --> 00:51:47.140 But but it's so if I am general, if I'm a if I'm going there for the amendment, then why do I need to keep that there? 00:51:47.300 --> 00:51:47.539 Right? 00:51:47.620 --> 00:51:51.300 So it's it's the same, but they're gonna say no if I don't do what they want me to do. 00:51:51.620 --> 00:51:57.220 And that's really unfortunate because if you look at any of the videos, even for PN, you know, PNZ, they've given me a lot of support. 00:51:57.300 --> 00:52:02.900 I've had a lot of support, and I want to continue to, I understand you got to kind of play but it would be a better development, right? 00:52:02.980 --> 00:52:05.460 And it wouldn't, it's not like it's affecting the thing overall. 00:52:05.539 --> 00:52:08.260 It's like six units just to give a little breathing room. 00:52:08.500 --> 00:52:12.500 I was a billion dollar, I was actually set up to build like a really bitching dog park on the corner. 00:52:12.660 --> 00:52:16.660 Yeah, dog park or maybe some additional parking, just a little bit of breathing room, you know. 00:52:16.740 --> 00:52:30.740 And I understand as a developer, you might pencil out a few more dollars with a few more units, but legacy, just barely knowing you, I'm willing to assume you'd rather have a project that long after you're gone and dead that you're proud of than a couple extra bucks right now. 00:52:30.980 --> 00:52:31.539 Oh, for sure. 00:52:31.700 --> 00:52:35.380 You know, and so legacy for the community is what should be important there. 00:52:35.539 --> 00:52:35.700 Yeah. 00:52:35.860 --> 00:52:43.059 And if it's if it's if it's somebody like if somebody's trying to ram that down your throat, I'm gonna say, Ryan, we're gonna go sit down there with them tomorrow and figure out why. 00:52:43.539 --> 00:52:44.340 Because this is stupid. 00:52:44.660 --> 00:52:50.420 And those are and that's really just the and but that's all the all I'm really looking for is just a logical sit down. 00:52:50.500 --> 00:52:51.860 Let's just be logical about it. 00:52:52.019 --> 00:52:55.780 Here's okay, you guys have your ideas of what's better, and here's my ideas of what's better. 00:52:55.860 --> 00:52:59.300 And just be like they say we will approve this or we won't. 00:52:59.380 --> 00:52:59.539 Yeah. 00:52:59.700 --> 00:53:01.860 And then it goes up there and they say yes or no. 00:53:02.260 --> 00:53:04.740 But nobody's sitting down and saying, why. 00:53:05.220 --> 00:53:09.220 And I'm gonna keep hammering on that through this whole podcast because by the time, you know what? 00:53:10.019 --> 00:53:11.700 I got my change order hat on right now. 00:53:11.780 --> 00:53:16.100 My next one's gonna say, well, the next one's gonna say have a have a two airlines, is what the next one's gonna say. 00:53:16.340 --> 00:53:18.100 But the one after that's gonna say why. 00:53:18.260 --> 00:53:23.220 Yeah, you know, so so that's yeah, we'll we'll we're gonna go on tangents forever to know it, but let's wrap up the tourism. 00:53:23.860 --> 00:53:25.700 Tourism uh is a big deal here. 00:53:25.860 --> 00:53:28.180 Snowbridge is a big deal, the lake life's a big deal. 00:53:28.340 --> 00:53:29.700 Just kind of touch on that a little bit, please. 00:53:30.100 --> 00:53:36.740 Okay, so there is if you want to get tourists to like have so first off, we have the iconic London Bridge. 00:53:36.900 --> 00:53:39.059 Robert McCulloch had the foresight to buy that. 00:53:39.300 --> 00:53:48.100 When you go over there in the fall and in the spring when it's not so hot, you will see uh people from Japan and people from various parts of Asia taking pictures of it. 00:53:48.260 --> 00:53:51.539 To this day, it's a very, very large tourist draw. 00:53:52.100

--> 00:53:58.660 Secondly, we are putting 1.6 towards something that I feel is doing absolutely nothing. 00:53:58.980 --> 00:54:02.260 You could, like I said, call the Martelli brothers. 00:54:02.500 --> 00:54:03.700 Big off-road race. 00:54:03.780 --> 00:54:05.220 Have you ever been to the Parker 400? 00:54:05.940 --> 00:54:07.059 I took a helicopter run over it. 00:54:07.380 --> 00:54:07.940 It's nuts. 00:54:08.019 --> 00:54:08.820 Oh, yeah, it's nuts. 00:54:09.620 --> 00:54:15.700 Back when they used to camp over by the airport and all the camp, it's like 30,000 people out there at RVs, right? 00:54:16.019 --> 00:54:18.340 So now our biggest problem is where do we put all the people? 00:54:18.420 --> 00:54:20.579 It's not how do we get them here, it's where do you put them here, right? 00:54:21.300 --> 00:54:22.660 You got a million different ways. 00:54:22.820 --> 00:54:25.539 We turned down that triathlon thing and they ran away. 00:54:25.620 --> 00:54:28.340 And I guess we're trying to get them back now because that actually went public. 00:54:28.579 --> 00:54:29.220 Oh wow, right? 00:54:29.460 --> 00:54:30.019 Someone's pissed. 00:54:30.260 --> 00:54:32.019 But that's you know, that's a huge deal. 00:54:32.340 --> 00:54:34.980 What would air service do for tourism, right? 00:54:35.140 --> 00:54:35.620 I'm asking you. 00:54:35.780 --> 00:54:38.980 Oh man, that that well man, I well, you and I talked about it. 00:54:39.059 --> 00:54:45.140 I actually have a pro forma on all kinds of things when it comes to air service and it comes to expanding that airport, which we'll talk about. 00:54:45.380 --> 00:54:49.780 Yeah, so if we had air service here, I'm not talking about landing big jets in and out of here. 00:54:49.860 --> 00:54:50.740 We like our peace and quiet. 00:54:50.820 --> 00:54:58.500 We're in the desert, but if you had a turboprop that fly from here to any hub, selfishly, I'd like it to be Vegas because I love gambling, right? 00:54:58.660 --> 00:55:07.220 But realistically, if we flew out of either John Wayne or Ontario, how many people come to Lake Havasu from the riverside or that area, Orange County Riverside? 00:55:07.300 --> 00:55:08.660 It's what is it, like 50, 60 percent? 00:55:08.900 --> 00:55:09.380 Probably more. 00:55:09.460 --> 00:55:10.579 Yeah, that's probably even more. 00:55:10.660 --> 00:55:10.900 Yeah. 00:55:11.140 --> 00:55:14.500 So you think they LA, San Diego, Riverside County, insane. 00:55:14.900 --> 00:55:20.900 They would they would they they would jump on a puddle jumper, be here in 45 minutes and have a have a car stashed at the airport. 00:55:21.620 --> 00:55:24.660 We tried airlines, everybody's gonna say, oh, we tried it twice before. 00:55:24.740 --> 00:55:25.220 That's not true. 00:55:25.300 --> 00:55:26.420 We tried it three times before. 00:55:26.980 --> 00:55:28.900 The first time was remarkably successful. 00:55:28.980 --> 00:55:30.660 That was done by Robert McCullough. 00:55:31.140 --> 00:55:33.620 The second time they did it, it was not successful. 00:55:33.780 --> 00:55:36.340 The third time was not that long ago. 00:55:36.579 --> 00:55:40.820 I lived here and nobody even knew about it until it was done. 00:55:41.059 --> 00:55:44.820 You know, like nobody, I didn't know you could fly out of here or I would have, you know, you know. 00:55:45.380 --> 00:55:50.420 The way that I look at it is like, you know, Vegas, like, I'm at the point where I'm like, oh I didn't, but I don't really want to go to Vegas anymore, right? 00:55:50.500 --> 00:55:51.460 But the Vegas was like the spot. 00:55:51.539 --> 00:55:52.980 You're gonna go eat, shop, whatever, right? 00:55:53.220 --> 00:55:53.380 Absolutely. 00:55:53.539 --> 00:55:54.019 I still love it. 00:55:54.100 --> 00:55:56.340 But I'm not like I'm gonna jump in in a car and go. 00:55:56.660 --> 00:56:08.019 But the reason why people don't come here as much, which I I have looked at how much revenue you would typically make more if you were able to have those type of flights in and out, you'd have weakeners come out here way more often. 00:56:08.740 --> 00:56:13.300 This place would swell up all the time, you'd have a lot more tax revenue just because it's easier to get to. 00:56:13.460 --> 00:56:23.780 That's people this is when you leave, and this is funny because anybody who's listening to this and hasn't been to Havazu because that my following is pretty big, but when you get here, you could feel there's a reason why this place is special. 00:56:24.100 --> 00:56:26.420 It's special the minute you get here, you decompress. 00:56:26.820 --> 00:56:37.220 And and so people that are in the race in California and other places, they're gonna want to come out here if they can just come out here for 500 bucks round trip or even a thousand dollars round round trip, they're on it, you know. 00:56:37.460 --> 00:56:39.700 And that's that's the whole point. 00:56:39.860 --> 00:56:43.940 So you're gonna have more people come in on a weekend, weekly basis. 00:56:44.019 --> 00:56:51.620 And I would almost put money on it, it's a 25-30% increase in revenue or in in tourism for so where do you get the money for that? 00:56:51.780 --> 00:56:55.059 What about the 1.6 for the Lake Havasu? 00:56:55.300 --> 00:56:55.539 Yeah. 00:56:55.700 --> 00:56:56.420 Oh, wait a minute. 00:56:56.500 --> 00:56:58.660 We have another 500 from the PED too. 00:56:58.900 --> 00:57:00.500 Partner in economic development. 00:57:00.660 --> 00:57:15.539 Do you know that guy's actually on record in a newspaper from 2015 saying the partner in economic development should not bring new business to Lake Havasu, but should support local business through organic growth? 00:57:16.820 --> 00:57:17.539 How do you do it? 00:57:17.860 --> 00:57:18.420 Wild. 00:57:20.579 --> 00:57:21.380 How do you do that? 00:57:21.539 --> 00:57:22.260 Yeah, exactly. 00:57:22.420 --> 00:57:25.380 That means you don't do anything and you take credit for

everything. 00:57:25.860 --> 00:57:36.420 The reality of it is, is if you have air service here, if you're gonna start talking about bringing industry here, and I call you and you're in Tennessee and you're the CEO of XYZ fabrication, right? 00:57:36.500 --> 00:57:39.539 And I say, I want you to come to Havasu, and you can say, okay, how do I get there? 00:57:40.019 --> 00:57:42.820 That conversation's over as soon as we say three-hour drive. 00:57:43.539 --> 00:57:46.900 You bring in air service here, I say, Ryan, you're gonna come to Lake Havasu. 00:57:47.059 --> 00:57:58.579 We're gonna buy your ticket, you're gonna come in here, we're gonna put you up in the hotel, we're gonna wine you, dine you, show you the land, show you this, show you that, show you what we have for workforce, what we have for living available, you know, all this stuff. 00:57:58.820 --> 00:58:00.740 And you fly in, you're good. 00:58:00.980 --> 00:58:02.660 We have a healthcare problem here. 00:58:02.900 --> 00:58:04.500 Uh we'll step onto that kind of thing. 00:58:04.740 --> 00:58:07.300 Doctors and doctors, well, I should say spouses. 00:58:07.780 --> 00:58:12.820 I'm learning how to be more political nowadays, because you know, I can't say doctors and wives, because there are a lot of female doctors. 00:58:13.140 --> 00:58:15.059 They like to shop and they like to travel. 00:58:15.700 --> 00:58:20.900 Do you think we would have a higher likelihood of retaining talent here if we had air services? 00:58:21.140 --> 00:58:21.700 Oh, for sure. 00:58:21.780 --> 00:58:22.019 Yeah. 00:58:22.340 --> 00:58:23.539 So what's the downside? 00:58:24.019 --> 00:58:24.900 There really is none. 00:58:25.300 --> 00:58:26.340 There is none, right? 00:58:27.140 --> 00:58:32.420 The only thing that happened before why this air service stopped, it was federally funded. 00:58:32.820 --> 00:58:37.539 What if we city funded it through some of these wasted monies? 00:58:37.940 --> 00:58:40.180 Well that is still generating tourism. 00:58:41.700 --> 00:58:49.780 You can even go one step further and allow allowed the private sector to come in and build it and run their own revenue stream off of it and partner with the city. 00:58:50.340 --> 00:58:52.740 Key word being partner, you know, right now. 00:58:52.820 --> 00:58:56.019 We talked just a little bit about that because the hangar situation out there is dire. 00:58:56.980 --> 00:59:04.340 And I know that, you know, typically the way cities work is, you know, they give them the land and they get this little tiny nut off the side of the rent of the hangar. 00:59:04.660 --> 00:59:11.380 Me personally, I would rather see the city partner with somebody and whack up that rent because that's real money. 00:59:11.700 --> 00:59:12.260 Oh, yeah. 00:59:12.420 --> 00:59:19.620 Well, when you have when you when you really and there needs to be that sophisticated approach when you have the deficiencies in the budget that you guys have. 00:59:20.420 --> 00:59:21.860 I don't think we have a deficiency in the budget. 00:59:22.100 --> 00:59:23.059 You just think it's valuations. 00:59:23.620 --> 00:59:24.180 Yes, yeah, yeah. 00:59:24.340 --> 00:59:26.660 So you know, 10 years ago, our budget was$130 million. 00:59:26.980 --> 00:59:30.579 Yeah, which is now it's$303, and somehow we have no money. 00:59:31.220 --> 00:59:33.380 The problem's the spending and where it's being spent. 00:59:33.539 --> 00:59:35.539 The problem's not, but we have plenty of money. 00:59:35.700 --> 00:59:43.860 We just need to really throttle back on on you know four million dollar pools, you know, and that or$12 million courthouses or$4.7 million parks. 00:59:43.940 --> 00:59:48.500 And you know, we can go down a list here or$1.4 million on a stoplight. 00:59:48.579 --> 00:59:50.100 How much is your stoplight gonna cost you? 00:59:50.260 --> 00:59:51.940 We I think we budgeted$6.50. 00:59:52.180 --> 00:59:52.820 $650. 00:59:52.980 --> 00:59:55.300 But when we buy a stoplight, it's$1.4 million. 00:59:55.620 --> 00:59:56.900 Yeah, you see what I'm saying? 00:59:57.059 --> 00:59:58.820 Like, let's line item some budgets here. 00:59:59.700 --> 00:59:59.780 Yeah. 00:59:59.940 --> 01:00:02.420 So you know, and that's why we're going in more of a private way. 01:00:02.500 --> 01:00:04.180 We'll build it, you know, we'll build it. 01:00:04.340 --> 01:00:07.539 The city takes on a liability, but we'll we'll build it, you know. 01:00:07.780 --> 01:00:08.980 Yeah, it's easier that way. 01:00:09.300 --> 01:00:10.260 Yeah, well, I don't care. 01:00:10.340 --> 01:00:16.340 If I'm smarter for the city to do it too, because if you're gonna have to do it, if I don't have to spend$1.4 million and I can get it for six, I'm gonna do it all day long. 01:00:17.539 --> 01:00:18.260 Yeah, of course. 01:00:18.340 --> 01:00:21.620 Yeah, and that's the same thing with my four million dollar pool that I could probably get for one. 01:00:21.780 --> 01:00:34.500 Yeah, and guys like us, we're gonna be penny pinching every edge, every we have to, you know, and uh and that's where it's like, you know, some of the some of the you know kind of things that we want is just uh allow the city to kind of allow us to kind of push forward when you have projects that size. 01:00:34.579 --> 01:00:37.780 Anyway, so relationships work a lot better when they're symbiotic. 01:00:38.740 --> 01:00:40.180 And that's the one thing about me. 01:00:40.340 --> 01:00:41.059 I'm so easy going. 01:00:41.220 --> 01:00:45.700 Man, I walk I when we had that hearing, I'm just like, okay, guys, just once you know I've already been ahead of this. 01:00:45.780 --> 01:00:50.500 This we can do what you gotta do, but we we're we're easy going, just say yes and we'll get out of your way. 01:00:50.579 --> 01:00:51.860 You know, just that's all we need. 01:00:51.940 --> 01:00:56.500 Um, but anyway, so all right, let's move over to the since we kind of talked about the airport, let's stay on

that one now. 01:00:56.740 --> 01:01:03.220 So, you know, my here's my experience, and I'll we'll laugh about it a little bit, and I'm sure hopefully I don't get sight cited for this. 01:01:03.780 --> 01:01:20.420 But um, you know, during uh during like some of the bigger weekends, what was happening is a lot of the R44s are like just let's say, you know, anybody who's got you know like a bell or you know, what have you, a lot of those air uh helicopters they just don't have a place to park, you know, at in at uh at the airport. 01:01:20.579 --> 01:01:24.900 So they were calling me to go land at paradigm storage, you know, and I'd like as well as it's outside of city limits. 01:01:24.980 --> 01:01:26.019 We have an ordinance on that. 01:01:26.579 --> 01:01:31.539 I have to pull a permit every year for Super Cat Fest because we're the only event that lands helicopters in the event. 01:01:31.700 --> 01:01:36.579 Yeah, well, we're not doing it anymore because I found out like apparently it was frowned upon, and I want to keep my relationships tight. 01:01:36.660 --> 01:01:43.220 But they would land, they would land, you know, at paradigm storage and they would actually have cover with air conditioned units, so they're keeping their stuff in good shape. 01:01:43.300 --> 01:01:45.460 And if I had it's out in county though, isn't it? 01:01:45.539 --> 01:01:47.700 No, I'm in city, I'm in the city limits, so I didn't know that. 01:01:47.780 --> 01:01:51.140 So they're like, oh, yeah, as long as it's private land and you say yes, you can, right? 01:01:51.300 --> 01:01:53.780 So there's no there's actually a we found that out. 01:01:53.860 --> 01:01:54.820 Yeah, we found that out. 01:01:54.900 --> 01:01:56.340 You can't land in the city without a permit. 01:01:56.420 --> 01:01:58.980 So you can't the permit's strangely easy to get, by the way. 01:01:59.140 --> 01:01:59.860 Yeah, that's what I heard. 01:01:59.940 --> 01:02:01.780 So yeah, if if we need to do it, we'll do it again. 01:02:01.940 --> 01:02:07.700 And if if they call me and say, hey, this is you know, I have nowhere else to park this thing, like if it's during my event, I'll pull the permit for it. 01:02:07.780 --> 01:02:08.500 Yeah, you have them drop it. 01:02:08.579 --> 01:02:08.820 There you go. 01:02:09.220 --> 01:02:09.780 I appreciate it. 01:02:09.940 --> 01:02:15.940 So yeah, so they you know, we we were approached by the old the old um um airport manager. 01:02:16.100 --> 01:02:20.180 We went in and we were looking at building a helicopter hanger or actual several hangers. 01:02:20.420 --> 01:02:20.579 Sure. 01:02:20.740 --> 01:02:25.700 And so we're that kind of monetized into a conversation to build some hangers down on the south side. 01:02:25.860 --> 01:02:32.820 And then it really monetized when I started talking to the Marinelli's about, you know, 250,000 square feet of hangers on the south side. 01:02:33.059 --> 01:02:40.180 And, you know, we were just kind of talking about where, you know, how the FAA, and I'm not sure because this isn't verified on my end, this is what I'm being told. 01:02:40.340 --> 01:02:43.059 The FAA is actually spending money to keep this airport open. 01:02:43.300 --> 01:02:45.780 I know that our city's spending right around a half million. 01:02:45.860 --> 01:02:47.940 I don't know if we actually get any subsidies from the FAA on the city. 01:02:48.019 --> 01:02:48.900 I'm not sure if we'll get into that. 01:02:49.059 --> 01:02:49.700 Yeah, but I wouldn't have to be able to do that. 01:02:49.860 --> 01:02:52.579 We're gonna get into a really awesome conversation here in just a second. 01:02:53.460 --> 01:02:54.660 I think I already know where you're going. 01:02:54.900 --> 01:02:55.220 Yeah, yeah. 01:02:55.539 --> 01:03:00.660 So I'm looking at this and I'm like, well, look, guys, just to just if you were to look at big numbers, if you're gonna come in with the private sector. 01:03:00.740 --> 01:03:06.260 Now, as we know, Velocity just bought, you know, their private equity firm um that bought the FBOs from the Marinelli's, right? 01:03:06.420 --> 01:03:13.460 So the the and and I think they took over the government, the contract too for fuel for the military, if if I if I recall, I could be wrong. 01:03:13.700 --> 01:03:17.539 Anyways, um, and I haven't really dug in since this whole time about a year ago. 01:03:17.780 --> 01:03:22.740 The uh that south side, there was about 250,000 square feet of hangers, and it was mixed years. 01:03:22.820 --> 01:03:24.660 So you had T hangers and you had larger, you know, 100,000. 01:03:24.900 --> 01:03:27.700 Yeah, but the south side, so I just took a flight in that little bush plane. 01:03:27.780 --> 01:03:36.260 Part of the reason why I did that, you know, we flipped a Laughlin for breakfast and all that, but part of the reason I did that is I told my buddy Paul, I said, dude, I need to buzz over this airport a couple times to get a good view of it. 01:03:36.579 --> 01:03:39.860 And we talked a little bit about some of the infrastructure needs and all that stuff down there. 01:03:39.940 --> 01:03:42.900 But that south side, you need a ton of dirt work. 01:03:43.220 --> 01:03:43.780 A lot of fill. 01:03:43.940 --> 01:03:45.460 Yeah, it's millions. 01:03:45.620 --> 01:03:46.019 Oh, yeah. 01:03:46.100 --> 01:03:56.900 You're so for you to even start, probably before you even get a you know, go vertical on anything, just to get infrastructure and dirt work, you're looking at five or five and a half million bucks just dirt work. 01:03:57.140 --> 01:03:57.700 That's not true. 01:03:57.860 --> 01:04:05.539 So then, and then now you're talking about all your utilities, and then so you're you're six million dollars into this thing before you even go vertical on your own little tiny T hanger. 01:04:05.780 --> 01:04:06.500 You know what I mean? 01:04:06.579 --> 01:04:14.500 Like there's nothing you can really build over there, and obviously nobody's even

gonna no, no one's building a hanger anymore without it being temperature controlled. 01:04:14.579 --> 01:04:16.019 It's just you, it's different nowadays. 01:04:16.500 --> 01:04:20.100 There's hangers, there's hangers at our airport right now, they don't even have 220 power. 01:04:20.500 --> 01:04:20.820 It's wild. 01:04:21.460 --> 01:04:26.019 My buddy Paul, he so if you want to get a hanger at the airport, you can get on the wait list. 01:04:26.260 --> 01:04:28.420 I have a friend that's on the wait list from 1984. 01:04:28.660 --> 01:04:30.900 Yeah, five years, and I think he's moved up one spot. 01:04:30.980 --> 01:04:33.380 He's like spot number 60 or something, right? 01:04:33.700 --> 01:04:39.539 So the way you if you want to know the great way to get a hanger is you go and you buy the plane and the hanger and then you get rid of the plane. 01:04:40.180 --> 01:04:42.900 Yeah, it's the way you gotta so that's how you know I have a couple buddies. 01:04:42.980 --> 01:04:44.180 That's how you know they keep getting hangers. 01:04:44.340 --> 01:04:45.300 Well, how do you get these damn hangers? 01:04:45.700 --> 01:04:47.300 I bought the plane and we bought the plane, yeah. 01:04:47.380 --> 01:04:48.820 You know, just buy the whole thing and get rid of it. 01:04:49.059 --> 01:04:51.700 So it's a package deal, it's like the truck and trailer and the boat at the same time. 01:04:51.940 --> 01:04:55.780 Yeah, everything, whatever you gotta buy to get it, and then you just get rid of all the stuff later, right? 01:04:55.860 --> 01:04:58.260 But I'm in there, I'm like, why do you got a swamp cooler in here, man? 01:04:58.340 --> 01:04:59.860 He's like, we don't have 220. 01:04:59.940 --> 01:05:02.420 And he goes, Dave, help me get 220. 01:05:02.500 --> 01:05:04.420 He goes, We'll all pay for it. 01:05:04.740 --> 01:05:07.140 We just need the ability to do it. 01:05:08.180 --> 01:05:09.059 And that's the point. 01:05:09.140 --> 01:05:11.539 Yeah, the private sector is willing to pay for it. 01:05:11.700 --> 01:05:12.019 Correct. 01:05:12.180 --> 01:05:15.380 So five, six million dollars infrastructure at the private sector will pay for it. 01:05:15.460 --> 01:05:20.740 You just the the reality is is for the payback, you'll have guys that'll come in and build their own hangers, right? 01:05:20.820 --> 01:05:22.180 If you want to sell the sell the dirt. 01:05:22.579 --> 01:05:23.059 I got a better idea. 01:05:23.300 --> 01:05:24.579 Sell the location, better way to put it. 01:05:24.900 --> 01:05:28.740 You know, and I don't, you know, so there this is part of learning the rules of the road, right? 01:05:28.820 --> 01:05:30.420 Because I'm sure there's state laws and this thing. 01:05:31.940 --> 01:05:35.140 But why can't we partner with a builder? 01:05:35.380 --> 01:05:49.380 And why can't we as a city, you know, I don't know, put up a bond, finance the hangers, and then get the real money on return instead of getting, you know, your 50 bucks a month, you know, if the if the if the rents, what what is the rent on a hanger nowadays? 01:05:49.539 --> 01:05:50.500 300, 400 bucks or something. 01:05:50.660 --> 01:05:52.180 I don't remember what it was critically. 01:05:52.579 --> 01:05:54.100 It's pretty, it's pretty substantial, right? 01:05:54.260 --> 01:05:54.660 It's not bad. 01:05:54.740 --> 01:05:56.579 It's if you if you it's okay. 01:05:57.059 --> 01:06:00.019 To develop the hangers, what do you figure that would cost on the other pads? 01:06:00.180 --> 01:06:01.539 Well, it depends on the seven million. 01:06:01.860 --> 01:06:04.900 Let's just call it, let's say, for example, let's say an average cost per hanger. 01:06:04.980 --> 01:06:07.620 Now, mind you, these hangers are from small tea hangers to larger hangers. 01:06:07.700 --> 01:06:10.420 I think their average cost per hanger was going to be about 50,000. 01:06:10.500 --> 01:06:12.980 But that's we have there was also much larger hangers. 01:06:13.220 --> 01:06:15.700 So 50,000 times what, 65 hangers or whatever? 01:06:15.780 --> 01:06:17.860 I I think, yeah, I think it was this, but it was 225. 01:06:18.100 --> 01:06:19.140 Here, I'll just do the numbers better. 01:06:19.220 --> 01:06:19.860 I'll put this. 01:06:19.940 --> 01:06:21.460 So Give me a total budget. 01:06:21.700 --> 01:06:23.059 Okay, I'll give I'll give it to you right now. 01:06:23.220 --> 01:06:23.860 Remember exactly the time. 01:06:23.940 --> 01:06:24.420 I'll tell you right now. 01:06:24.820 --> 01:06:28.900 But the question is, why can't, you know, as you you you as the builder, right? 01:06:29.059 --> 01:06:39.059 Not saying that you're gonna be the one building them, but as a typical builder, we typically give you the land, you guys get to make the investment and build the thing, and then you guys get rich. 01:06:39.539 --> 01:06:39.860 Right? 01:06:40.100 --> 01:06:40.579 Yeah. 01:06:40.900 --> 01:06:45.780 Why can't we put up the money and split it with you as an investment? 01:06:45.860 --> 01:06:52.500 And that way, you know, if we put up 10 or 15 million bucks, but we're gonna make 60 indefinitely. 01:06:52.740 --> 01:06:53.059 Oh, yeah. 01:06:53.300 --> 01:06:56.500 You know, like literally, you're gonna you're gonna make money indefinitely off these hangers. 01:06:56.579 --> 01:06:57.780 Why can't we put up the money into it? 01:06:58.019 --> 01:06:59.380 All right, so you're looking at 27 million dollars. 01:06:59.539 --> 01:07:01.860 Yeah, but let's factor let's break it down even more than that. 01:07:02.100 --> 01:07:04.579 27 million, and and and everybody's mind's like that's a lot of money. 01:07:05.059 --> 01:07:06.019 That is not a lot of money, yeah. 01:07:06.100 --> 01:07:08.340 But let's paradigm storage I did in seven phases. 01:07:08.420 --> 01:07:12.579 So divide that by seven because you're recouping capital, it's only 3.4 million a phase. 01:07:12.820 --> 01:07:14.420 So why can't we partner with a builder? 01:07:14.500 -->

01:07:19.380 We'll put up the money in the land, you guys build it on your dime, and then we split it. 01:07:19.539 --> 01:07:27.380 Do you know how easy this conversation how far along the this could have been if that conversation would have happened in all of the meetings that I've already been in with other pilots? 01:07:29.780 --> 01:07:34.579 It's crazy how much the if that conversation on the table, you can hear it in the earbox. 01:07:34.900 --> 01:07:37.140 Yeah, I'm like, yeah, because I was so passionate about this. 01:07:37.220 --> 01:07:39.860 Because what it is is like people come to me to fix problems. 01:07:39.940 --> 01:07:40.420 That was the reason. 01:07:40.579 --> 01:07:41.300 That's what they're doing. 01:07:41.460 --> 01:07:44.180 They came to me and they're like, hey, Ryan, this is what we're trying to accomplish, what we're trying to do. 01:07:44.260 --> 01:07:44.660 What do you think? 01:07:44.740 --> 01:07:46.420 And I go to them with a solution. 01:07:46.740 --> 01:07:48.420 And then it's they don't want to hear it. 01:07:48.740 --> 01:07:54.980 And I'm like, guys, like, you know, because I you gotta remember it, and to be completely honest, it was gonna benefit me too, right? 01:07:55.380 --> 01:07:56.740 Because all my projects are north. 01:07:56.900 --> 01:08:06.500 If I can help expand that, talk about the PR for this town and the PR for me that I get to go to my clients and say, by the way, they're expanding this and we're part of it. 01:08:06.820 --> 01:08:10.900 And by the way, a municipality is successfully working with private industry. 01:08:11.140 --> 01:08:16.979 Oh, and no, and honestly, nobody else wants to deal with public-private partnerships that much anymore because they're scared of politics. 01:08:17.140 --> 01:08:21.859 If you have the right people in office, though, and you have a good, healthy contract, it makes sense. 01:08:22.019 --> 01:08:24.500 It's just you gotta for you to be able to make this happen. 01:08:24.579 --> 01:08:30.899 You it's just it takes some polish and it takes people to move the needle, but it is actually going to generate income. 01:08:30.979 --> 01:08:35.939 Like it's it's like would you it will generate income, it's legacy, it's mailbox money indefinitely. 01:08:36.340 --> 01:08:36.500 Right. 01:08:36.579 --> 01:08:44.260 And and it's because remember, it's a land lease, and you're making the land, so you're and so then there's all kinds of tax incentives for the owners, and it's just all this crazy stuff. 01:08:44.340 --> 01:08:46.340 And you have to there's so many benefits to it. 01:08:46.579 --> 01:08:47.539 Give me one con. 01:08:48.659 --> 01:08:49.619 You know, well, think about it. 01:08:49.779 --> 01:08:51.539 So I no, you're gonna let you laugh at this. 01:08:51.619 --> 01:08:54.739 So I I kind of looked at all the projects that we've had here so far in Habasu. 01:08:55.140 --> 01:08:58.100 We've employed about 300 people for the last five years. 01:08:58.260 --> 01:08:58.659 Sure. 01:08:58.819 --> 01:09:03.619 So you bolt on another 250,000 square feet while we have other projects going on. 01:09:03.699 --> 01:09:07.539 Yes, you'll use some same subs, but some of our projects we're having to bring outside sources, sure. 01:09:07.619 --> 01:09:08.739 You're employing a lot of people. 01:09:08.900 --> 01:09:09.060 Yes. 01:09:09.220 --> 01:09:10.020 You know, and why else? 01:09:10.420 --> 01:09:12.659 That is all that is all for our economy. 01:09:13.060 --> 01:09:14.020 Where are they spending that money? 01:09:14.260 --> 01:09:15.539 Yeah, and where they they're gonna go rent. 01:09:15.619 --> 01:09:22.420 They're gonna so you have groups, so you have like subs, which are really doing well right now because they're retaining labor and they're retaining some of their executives, right? 01:09:22.500 --> 01:09:24.100 They're growing as they as they're building. 01:09:24.260 --> 01:09:30.260 And when you have groups like me, if I go to somebody and you know some of our subs are already doing this, they're saying, hey, look, I have Paradigm's contract. 01:09:30.340 --> 01:09:32.579 I got five years with Paradigm. 01:09:32.739 --> 01:09:35.860 I need 700 air conditioning, you know, mini splits. 01:09:36.100 --> 01:09:37.699 That's a that changes the game for it. 01:09:37.779 --> 01:09:40.020 That HVAC company for sure. 01:09:40.180 --> 01:09:40.420 Yeah. 01:09:40.579 --> 01:09:44.100 So what's what that means is it's from him as an owner, as a business owner. 01:09:44.180 --> 01:09:50.420 So the owner of the HVAC company is going to retain better labor because he has consistent business that's not going to fail. 01:09:50.579 --> 01:09:52.340 So now he can pay his guys a little bit better. 01:09:52.420 --> 01:09:53.460 He those, you know what I mean? 01:09:53.539 --> 01:09:59.380 You're just going to have a better polished crew business with better systems, better technology, better trucks, better tools. 01:09:59.619 --> 01:10:03.300 It just becomes it's a it's a mudslide of positivity, is what it is. 01:10:03.460 --> 01:10:04.659 It's called capitalism. 01:10:04.980 --> 01:10:05.220 Right. 01:10:05.460 --> 01:10:06.659 It's called capitalism. 01:10:06.819 --> 01:10:07.300 That's it. 01:10:07.380 --> 01:10:13.539 And that and so we so of course I'm passionate about it because I've I'm literally witnessing it every day, and we've been a big part of it. 01:10:13.699 --> 01:10:17.300 But I would love to see, and it's just I feel like I'm taking the interview over, dude. 01:10:17.380 --> 01:10:20.659 I'm sorry, but no, I kind of feel like I'm interviewing, I'm interviewing you right now. 01:10:20.980 --> 01:10:24.739 You're totally just getting to you're making me, you're pulling all the passion out of me, and I appreciate it. 01:10:24.819 --> 01:10:32.020 But uh my point, like I said, is you know, I'm not a politician, I'm a business guy, I'm an entrepreneur. 01:10:32.340 --> 01:10:34.980 So I look at this

stuff and I keep coming back to the why. 01:10:35.060 --> 01:10:45.619 So and the what I said before we even started this, I was more excited about this podcast, even though I know it's going all over the country and it's not directly to the voters of Lake Havis. 01:10:45.779 --> 01:10:46.260 Oh, it's gonna go. 01:10:46.340 --> 01:10:53.220 I'm driving it there because this I get to sit down with a guy that thinks like me, even though we haven't met before. 01:10:53.539 --> 01:10:59.779 You understand the basic fundamental point that there is no problem that isn't solvable. 01:10:59.940 --> 01:11:04.100 It's just a question of how much energy are you willing to put at it until you solve it. 01:11:04.420 --> 01:11:06.340 And that that goes across the board, right? 01:11:06.659 --> 01:11:17.460 And if I wanted to say, hey, I'm gonna bring Elon Musk to Lake Havasu, people that have never jumped off the cliff and started a business will say, That's impossible. 01:11:17.699 --> 01:11:20.500 People like us would say, I wonder what it would take to get it done. 01:11:21.779 --> 01:11:23.860 That's a fundamental difference between people. 01:11:24.020 --> 01:11:30.579 Yeah, if you've dumped off a cliff a few times and you've actually been able to build the planes, even though you've dressed a few, you're like, it makes it easier to build that plane on the next time. 01:11:30.819 --> 01:11:33.140 Yeah, but the point is, what would it take to get it done? 01:11:33.220 --> 01:11:34.659 It's not impossible. 01:11:34.900 --> 01:11:36.739 It's just what would it actually take? 01:11:36.980 --> 01:11:38.100 And I can tell you what it would take. 01:11:38.180 --> 01:11:41.940 It would take some serious tax advent incentives and stuff like that. 01:11:42.260 --> 01:11:50.900 But you know, all these things that I've said in my campaign, you know, the infrastructure, city unification, you know, bringing industry, people say, Well, that's impossible. 01:11:51.140 --> 01:11:52.100 No, it's not. 01:11:52.500 --> 01:11:56.420 It's not even that difficult if you know how to do it. 01:11:57.060 --> 01:12:00.819 And these people are already reaching out to me, and all these things are already happening. 01:12:00.980 --> 01:12:04.260 And looking at a budget and saying, Oh, we got two million dollars for roads. 01:12:04.659 --> 01:12:09.380 This is not, I mean, this is not rocket science, guys, and these are not campaign promises. 01:12:09.699 --> 01:12:15.060 I can tell you they're River Dave guarantees we're gonna get this done because it's that easy. 01:12:15.220 --> 01:12:21.460 And and if I tasked you with any one of the problems that this city is facing, you could solve them. 01:12:21.779 --> 01:12:24.260 I I I don't know if I'm gonna sign up for it. 01:12:24.500 --> 01:12:28.180 No, I understand that, but the fact is you personally could do it. 01:12:28.579 --> 01:12:29.619 I I believe in myself enough. 01:12:29.779 --> 01:12:30.980 Yeah, I believe and I have the right resources. 01:12:31.220 --> 01:12:33.539 That's the way that I that I have the right resources. 01:12:33.619 --> 01:12:34.739 You're not electing me, man. 01:12:34.900 --> 01:12:40.260 Yeah, you're electing a very intelligent network of people that surround me. 01:12:40.500 --> 01:12:43.539 And that's we just talked about that when we pulled up, too. 01:12:43.619 --> 01:12:53.779 It's like you are you're electing somebody that like really cares about the community, of course, has seen the deficiencies and has witnessed bare, you know, one-on-one of the things that you know needs to change. 01:12:53.940 --> 01:12:54.100 Sure. 01:12:54.340 --> 01:12:57.380 However, you it's the resources that you really have behind them, right? 01:12:57.460 --> 01:13:00.340 It's like our current administration, you know, he's got resources back there. 01:13:00.500 --> 01:13:01.779 And that's really what it comes down to. 01:13:01.860 --> 01:13:07.860 It's just it's just knowing, you know, who to reach out to and how to, you know, the right guidance and the right people with the right moral compass. 01:13:08.900 --> 01:13:13.699 All right, so let's move over to healthcare because healthcare is a huge part of Lake Havason. 01:13:13.860 --> 01:13:16.100 Let's talk a little bit about, you know, and talk about the problem. 01:13:16.180 --> 01:13:17.060 It's not a huge part. 01:13:17.380 --> 01:13:19.779 It's it's it's a huge missing it. 01:13:20.020 --> 01:13:23.220 It's a deficiency that is becoming a bigger problem in conversations. 01:13:23.380 --> 01:13:24.100 Let's put it that way. 01:13:24.180 --> 01:13:27.460 The conversation's always been we don't have enough, it's not good enough, the list goes on. 01:13:27.619 --> 01:13:27.860 Sure. 01:13:28.020 --> 01:13:29.940 What what's your what's your uh perspective? 01:13:30.100 --> 01:13:31.140 What do you what can you do? 01:13:31.220 --> 01:13:31.779 What are you thinking? 01:13:32.020 --> 01:13:34.020 Let's just go through this go over healthcare. 01:13:34.420 --> 01:13:41.300 So I have my Wednesday Foundry thing, and there's people from the hospital there virtually every week. 01:13:41.539 --> 01:13:43.060 And I ask them right there. 01:13:43.140 --> 01:13:45.140 And that's one of the cool things about the foundry, right? 01:13:45.220 --> 01:13:47.940 Uh the deal that we're doing, it's actually a back and forth. 01:13:48.020 --> 01:13:50.260 It's not so much speaking, it's a QA. 01:13:50.420 --> 01:13:53.220 So we get to listen to what they're saying as well, right? 01:13:54.500 --> 01:14:02.100 One of the problems that we have is traveling nurses, and I don't know if you know about that whole scheme, but it's crazy and it drives health prices through the roof. 01:14:02.260 --> 01:14:02.500 Yep. 01:14:02.659 --> 01:14:06.739 But they're working on fixing that by by upping the pay rates for the locals now. 01:14:07.300 --> 01:14:11.220 In terms of the hospital, it's 10% private owned. 01:14:11.300 -->

01:14:13.220 We do not have a lot of control over that. 01:14:13.380 --> 01:14:20.500 What I can tell you is Grace Hecht was, believe it or not, I've had more candidates come through the foundry thing. 01:14:20.579 --> 01:14:23.619 I don't know, senators, the pres are said it president. 01:14:23.699 --> 01:14:24.500 I mean, you name it. 01:14:24.579 --> 01:14:24.739 Yeah. 01:14:24.980 --> 01:14:27.460 LD30 candidates, treasurer, I mean, you name it. 01:14:27.539 --> 01:14:29.460 They've all come through there and spoke on Wednesdays, right? 01:14:30.260 --> 01:14:38.980 But um, Grace Hecht, she's running for LD30, she's at a bullhead, and I just took her aside and I said, Grace, you guys got that brand new Excel health facility up there. 01:14:39.060 --> 01:14:41.460 I said, All my friends that live in Bullhead rave about this thing. 01:14:41.539 --> 01:14:43.539 They say it's the best thing that's ever happened. 01:14:43.779 --> 01:14:45.140 I said, How did you get it? 01:14:46.100 --> 01:14:46.500 Right? 01:14:46.819 --> 01:14:51.060 You would think that I don't know, the people in charge might ask them, how did you get it? 01:14:51.460 --> 01:14:52.020 Nobody has. 01:14:52.900 --> 01:14:56.500 They went to ICSE, which is a trade show up in Vegas. 01:14:56.900 --> 01:15:04.980 They have their little easy up in their little table, and they walked up to them and said, Tell us about your town, and that's literally what happened. 01:15:06.100 --> 01:15:11.380 Obviously, I love trade shows, I'm a trade show guy, but I'm just gonna call Grace and say, Grace, give me their number. 01:15:12.659 --> 01:15:17.699 Because I want to fly them into Avisu and talk about our new facility that'll be coming in soon, right? 01:15:17.779 --> 01:15:23.619 These are not impossible problems to solve if you actually attempt to solve them. 01:15:24.020 --> 01:15:24.260 Right? 01:15:24.340 --> 01:15:25.779 So we have our PED again. 01:15:25.860 --> 01:15:29.060 This is$500,000 that goes absolutely nowhere. 01:15:29.460 --> 01:15:33.220 You know what the actual biggest complaint is, second to healthcare? 01:15:33.779 --> 01:15:34.900 Veterinarians. 01:15:36.340 --> 01:15:44.579 That is we have to drive to Kingman to get vet vet care because all our vets are all booked up. 01:15:44.659 --> 01:15:47.699 And we had one vet, they moved out of town and they closed down. 01:15:47.940 --> 01:15:51.460 Why can't we take some of this economic development money? 01:15:51.619 --> 01:16:01.539 Why can't we go to a veterinary college and say, hey, we'll take a couple of students and one senior guy, we're gonna give you an opportunity to set up shop in Lake Havasu. 01:16:01.699 --> 01:16:02.819 We had one that just closed down. 01:16:02.900 --> 01:16:04.180 That building's not leased yet. 01:16:04.260 --> 01:16:06.340 We'll pay the rent on the building for a year. 01:16:07.060 --> 01:16:12.340 If it's$7,000 a month,$6,000 a month, we'll call it seven for easy math, right? 01:16:12.500

--> 01:16:14.420 So you're looking at what is that,$84,000? 01:16:14.819 --> 01:16:16.180 You call it$10,000 with V. 01:16:16.500 --> 01:16:16.659 Sure. 01:16:16.980 --> 01:16:18.020 Call it$100,000. 01:16:18.100 --> 01:16:18.260 Yeah. 01:16:18.420 --> 01:16:23.220 Now you've got a veterinarian in Lake Havasu, and they you have a startup business. 01:16:23.300 --> 01:16:30.180 To me, when you say partnership and economic development and their charter is to bring business to Lake Havasu, way more than$100,000 a year. 01:16:30.340 --> 01:16:30.819 Way more. 01:16:31.140 --> 01:16:32.659 So now you argue more. 01:16:32.980 --> 01:16:33.380 Profitable. 01:16:33.460 --> 01:16:33.619 Yep. 01:16:33.779 --> 01:16:36.340 So what is so wrong with being profitable? 01:16:36.500 --> 01:16:40.900 You know, like all these people nowadays, they they make it sound like poor is the new cool, right? 01:16:41.220 --> 01:16:42.340 And it's crazy to me. 01:16:42.420 --> 01:16:46.420 And why do governments always have to just be spin, spin, spin, spin? 01:16:46.579 --> 01:16:49.940 You know, so we're talking the the big hot potato right now. 01:16:50.020 --> 01:16:52.659 Actually, you heard a little bit about it in that city council meeting. 01:16:52.900 --> 01:16:54.260 The splash pad. 01:16:54.819 --> 01:17:01.619 The splash pad for Lake Havasu has now become it's a$1.5 million project, which I don't even know how they get$1.5 million. 01:17:02.180 --> 01:17:04.100 Actually, I do know how they get it, I'll bring it up. 01:17:04.340 --> 01:17:07.380 You know,$1.5 million on a 303 budget, right? 01:17:08.340 --> 01:17:14.900 This particular thing has become the hot potato of whether you are fiscally responsible or not. 01:17:16.260 --> 01:17:18.100 The moms want it, yeah, right? 01:17:18.659 --> 01:17:21.380 So the conservatives are like, we're not spending that money. 01:17:21.940 --> 01:17:25.699 The less than conservatives are saying, no problem, we're gonna spend that money. 01:17:25.779 --> 01:17:28.900 And there's this huge argument over 1.5, right? 01:17:29.779 --> 01:17:32.420 Nobody thinks they asked the question, where'd the 1.5 come from? 01:17:33.300 --> 01:17:33.699 Right? 01:17:34.180 --> 01:17:35.300 I got an even better question. 01:17:35.460 --> 01:17:43.779 So the the answer to that is we looked around at other cities, and that's about what they cost, and we just kind of plug and play, you know, you want your little squirting lizard here and this, that. 01:17:43.940 --> 01:17:46.819 I said, no wonder we're always coming in second place to bullhead nowadays. 01:17:47.220 --> 01:17:50.020 You're looking at what they did and just kind of matching it, that's not acceptable. 01:17:50.340 --> 01:17:54.819 First off, we're gonna build a splash pad, we're gonna build a black the best splash pad you've ever seen. 01:17:55.140 --> 01:18:01.060 But here's question number two Why does it always have to be an entitlement project? 01:18:01.220 --> 01:18:02.659 Why

can't it be a profit center? 01:18:03.779 --> 01:18:08.739 And I said that everybody in the room is looking at me like I was speaking Chinese. 01:18:09.220 --> 01:18:11.140 And they're like, Well, how do you make money on a splash pad? 01:18:11.300 --> 01:18:12.739 I said, You ever been to an amusement park? 01:18:13.060 --> 01:18:13.779 Charge a fee. 01:18:14.020 --> 01:18:15.619 No, what happens at the end of that? 01:18:15.699 --> 01:18:18.500 You know, that big round tube, the whole family goes through the rapids. 01:18:18.739 --> 01:18:19.300 Yeah, okay, yeah. 01:18:19.460 --> 01:18:28.980 At the very back, at the very end of that ride when it's over, they have water cannons, and you literally walk up and you tap your ATM card, and then you get to spray your family. 01:18:29.300 --> 01:18:32.180 What would happen if you had two rows of water cannons? 01:18:32.420 --> 01:18:33.539 I have kids, man. 01:18:33.699 --> 01:18:38.819 If we had that when they were little, my credit card would be on fire from the time we got there to the time we left. 01:18:42.659 --> 01:18:45.220 I was broke every time I'd leave there on Friday nights, man. 01:18:45.300 --> 01:18:46.020 That was in 2008. 01:18:46.100 --> 01:18:46.819 I had the money anyway. 01:18:46.980 --> 01:18:48.980 I'm talking to Jess, like I said, I really like Jess. 01:18:49.060 --> 01:18:49.539 I really do. 01:18:49.619 --> 01:18:51.619 I think he's a really personable guy. 01:18:51.860 --> 01:18:53.699 I says, Hey Jess, you know, I got an idea. 01:18:53.779 --> 01:18:56.659 Why don't we do like a six-inch deep lazy river? 01:18:57.060 --> 01:18:58.739 And he goes, I've never heard of that before. 01:18:58.819 --> 01:19:00.659 I says, Well, the mom shows up, she's got her inner tubes. 01:19:00.819 --> 01:19:04.659 When you're floating in an even a big guy like you, if you're floating in an inner tube, you're only drafted this much water, right? 01:19:04.739 --> 01:19:07.699 I said, You can go a six-inch lazy river all the way around the thing, right? 01:19:07.860 --> 01:19:10.739 And that way the mom could set up her little deal, have her umbrella, and the kids go around. 01:19:10.819 --> 01:19:15.140 I says, Oh, you want the rapids experience, which is basically like the jacuzzi bubbles to shake the rafts? 01:19:15.380 --> 01:19:16.659 Get your credit card out. 01:19:17.060 --> 01:19:19.699 Oh, you want the waterfall to land on them? 01:19:19.860 --> 01:19:20.980 Get your credit card out. 01:19:21.220 --> 01:19:23.140 You know what Tempe does with their parks? 01:19:23.940 --> 01:19:28.100 When they build them, they put in two concrete pads, sewer, electrical, and water. 01:19:28.420 --> 01:19:30.340 Then they do it to the food concessioners. 01:19:30.420 --> 01:19:32.739 They say, Oh, you know, Fourth of July weekend's coming up. 01:19:32.900 --> 01:19:34.579 We'll rent you that spot for a thousand bucks. 01:19:34.659 --> 01:19:35.619 Yeah, that's the way to do it. 01:19:35.860 --> 01:19:37.380 So now you're generating income. 01:19:37.460 --> 01:19:41.539 Do you know what happens when the splash pad goes from an entitlement project to a profit center? 01:19:42.020 --> 01:19:44.180 You think the city's gonna let people vandalize it? 01:19:44.260 --> 01:19:45.460 Do you think they're gonna let homeless people there? 01:19:45.619 --> 01:19:48.020 Or do you think they're gonna protect it like oh yeah, like it's the arc? 01:19:48.260 --> 01:19:50.819 Well, then or do you or do you think they might even build more of them? 01:19:50.980 --> 01:19:51.300 Oh, yeah. 01:19:51.380 --> 01:19:53.619 Yeah, why does it always have to be money going out? 01:19:53.699 --> 01:19:56.260 Why can't we recover some money and have them coming back in, right? 01:19:56.579 --> 01:19:59.699 Yeah, and then police are gonna, you know, police are gonna have their kids and their wives and stuff like that. 01:19:59.940 --> 01:20:02.819 Everybody dude or whatever, you know, and they're gonna go patrol it all the time. 01:20:03.060 --> 01:20:03.460 Correct. 01:20:03.539 --> 01:20:04.579 And you know what? 01:20:04.819 --> 01:20:10.420 A six-inch lazy river is safe, and I might even get in a tube and float around it with my kids, right? 01:20:10.500 --> 01:20:12.100 Like it can be fun for the family. 01:20:12.340 --> 01:20:18.659 It doesn't, you know, nobody thinks outside the box and nobody's asking why does it cost us much or how can we make money on it? 01:20:18.980 --> 01:20:20.819 It it's just kind of common sense. 01:20:20.980 --> 01:20:26.900 Yeah, you know, if I told you, hey Ryan, you know, up at your that community you're doing with the 68 homes. 01:20:26.980 --> 01:20:27.619 What's what's the name of that? 01:20:27.699 --> 01:20:28.260 Paradigm flats? 01:20:28.500 --> 01:20:29.060 The flats, yeah. 01:20:29.220 --> 01:20:29.860 Okay, flats. 01:20:30.180 --> 01:20:36.819 I said, okay, you know what, Ryan, we're gonna rezone that, we're gonna take out six of the units if you don't want them, but we're gonna put a water park in there, right? 01:20:37.699 --> 01:20:39.619 I would just say you put a water park in there, right? 01:20:39.779 --> 01:20:43.140 You're not gonna build some crappy little water park, you're gonna do something cool. 01:20:45.140 --> 01:20:47.300 Yes, and that's what I'm saying. 01:20:47.460 --> 01:20:50.500 Why do we always have to be like, oh, they did this, so we can kind of match it. 01:20:50.579 --> 01:20:52.180 Why can't we do something better? 01:20:52.420 --> 01:20:57.380 Yeah, well, you get if you if you win, just give me the give me the reins on some cool stuff. 01:20:57.460 --> 01:21:00.020 I'll do all kinds of cool stuff around here for sure, especially for the kids. 01:21:00.180 --> 01:21:01.300 Because I'm a big, you know, my son. 01:21:01.380 --> 01:21:07.779 I don't know if you know this, I have full custody of my oldest son, and uh, he's now a 3.8 GPA for baseball. 01:21:07.860 --> 01:21:10.980 They just opened

up over there that uh split knuckle, yeah, which is cool. 01:21:11.060 --> 01:21:14.659 And he's got a you know a um a um uh batting coach. 01:21:14.739 --> 01:21:15.779 Like that's a really funny guy. 01:21:15.860 --> 01:21:19.779 I've got a chance to meet him, but you know, Shane, my oldest son, 3.8 GPA. 01:21:19.860 --> 01:21:21.619 We just went up to uh Oregon. 01:21:21.699 --> 01:21:22.980 He just did a showcase. 01:21:23.140 --> 01:21:24.579 You know, he's a D1 player. 01:21:24.659 --> 01:21:25.539 All of his numbers were there. 01:21:25.619 --> 01:21:27.460 Fat 13th fastest out of 300. 01:21:27.539 --> 01:21:28.260 But I'm wow. 01:21:28.340 --> 01:21:30.420 Yeah, 2.0 uh uh pop time. 01:21:30.500 --> 01:21:32.100 I actually had one of the guys that's here. 01:21:32.340 --> 01:21:36.100 Apparently, he's a I think he's a scout for the Yankees, if I recall. 01:21:36.260 --> 01:21:39.300 I think he's reached out to me on social media, wanted to meet Shane, right? 01:21:39.380 --> 01:21:42.100 And he's here, so it's another testament to people that are here. 01:21:42.340 --> 01:21:44.900 Well, I that that youth, I didn't know that exist. 01:21:45.140 --> 01:21:46.260 And so Shane is out here. 01:21:46.340 --> 01:21:47.940 He's like, Yeah, I have a batting coach now out there. 01:21:48.020 --> 01:21:48.579 I'm like, wait, what? 01:21:48.659 --> 01:21:54.260 I didn't even I knew they were building something there, and it was for like that type of stuff for conditioning for kids and youth. 01:21:54.340 --> 01:22:04.260 But like, that's the stuff I would love to like continue to support because I think that's so super cat fest, it's one of the largest charity fundraisers for like Havasu, and all that money that we raise goes to the youth of Lake Havasu. 01:22:04.500 --> 01:22:10.180 And so, like we're actually developing a an RC race, an RC complex down in Sarah Park right now. 01:22:10.260 --> 01:22:11.060 It's about seven acres. 01:22:11.300 --> 01:22:12.100 Yeah, I heard about it. 01:22:12.180 --> 01:22:22.100 And I'm super cat, when it's all said and done, we'll put in 50,000 this year, and then next year we'll put in another 50,000 because I want it when it's done, I want it to be the nicest RC complex in western Arizona. 01:22:22.819 --> 01:22:24.659 I don't want to compete with Phoenix in Vegas. 01:22:24.739 --> 01:22:27.460 I want Phoenix in Vegas saying we want to come here, right? 01:22:28.020 --> 01:22:30.420 But uh Split Knuckle are actually gonna be donating to them. 01:22:30.500 --> 01:22:34.100 I think we're donating 15,000 so they can run uh some sort of scholarship program. 01:22:34.340 --> 01:22:34.819 Oh, cool. 01:22:34.980 --> 01:22:36.020 So that's that's one of them. 01:22:36.340 --> 01:22:38.819 And that's the stuff that I'd love to just continue to see out here too. 01:22:38.900 --> 01:22:39.460 That type of stuff. 01:22:39.539 --> 01:22:40.980 Kids, you know, there's not enough stuff for kids. 01:22:41.060 --> 01:22:45.699 One of the biggest complaints is we don't have you know um child care here, you know, and that's the thing. 01:22:45.779 --> 01:22:47.940 We just don't have, I don't, dude, yeah, I'm not good at that. 01:22:48.100 --> 01:22:50.980 We need we we we we can definitely improve on a lot of things. 01:22:51.140 --> 01:22:55.300 I'm you know, we've done just a little over a million dollars in four years right now. 01:22:55.460 --> 01:22:57.300 Yeah, but you know, I'm one guy, man. 01:22:57.539 --> 01:22:58.500 I know, yeah, yeah. 01:22:58.980 --> 01:23:00.420 And you got all these other things with a good thing. 01:23:00.500 --> 01:23:01.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:23:01.460 --> 01:23:08.020 You know, and then it's so you know, to kind of sum up the the together to finish up the airport, the airport I think is something that can really generate a lot of revenue. 01:23:08.180 --> 01:23:14.260 If that was important, so don't yeah, stop looking at it as a as a as a spending money thing and let's look at it as how do we make money? 01:23:14.340 --> 01:23:19.539 And I'll tell you, if we were to partner with private and do it correctly, I have to check on some of the legalities of that. 01:23:19.860 --> 01:23:22.659 But if we could use our city funds, if we could put up a bond, right? 01:23:22.739 --> 01:23:28.819 And the bond's two or three percent interest, but once it's built, we're making 10 or 15% interest. 01:23:29.539 --> 01:23:31.220 The people watching this are smart. 01:23:31.380 --> 01:23:32.579 Yes, you do that every time. 01:23:32.659 --> 01:23:36.180 If I could borrow money from you for 1% and invest it and make 10%. 01:23:36.659 --> 01:23:38.900 Oh, that's the most common thing that rich people do. 01:23:38.980 --> 01:23:42.819 They leverage assets for true capital and they go into play for bigger returns all day long. 01:23:43.060 --> 01:23:47.940 I have a very, very wealthy friend, and you know, he uh he came home the other day with 50 motorcycles, five zero. 01:23:48.819 --> 01:23:49.140 Right? 01:23:49.380 --> 01:23:53.779 He went in, he went into this guy's garage and you know, the old trail 70 Hondas and all that stuff. 01:23:53.860 --> 01:23:55.779 This guy had 110 of them in there. 01:23:56.020 --> 01:24:02.340 And uh, anyhow, he they're all perfectly restored and all this stuff, and he's coming home with 50 of them, right? 01:24:02.579 --> 01:24:04.739 My wife's like, What are you doing? 01:24:04.980 --> 01:24:11.060 And he goes, Well, you know, I I I knew about what they're worth, and the guy told me he would take this much for them. 01:24:11.220 --> 01:24:14.100 He goes, Well, I guess I'm in the classic motorcycle game today. 01:24:14.180 --> 01:24:16.100 And she goes, What do you know about classic motorcycles? 01:24:16.180 --> 01:24:22.180 He goes, I don't know nothing about pumpkins either, but if I could buy pumpkins here for a dollar and sell them for three dollars over there, I'm in the pumpkin business. 01:24:22.420 -->

01:24:22.739 For sure. 01:24:22.900 --> 01:24:30.819 You know, so it's we just got to start looking at some of the stuff and saying, you know, how do we how do we stop bleeding and how do we start profiting? 01:24:31.220 --> 01:24:34.260 The airport is a huge opportunity. 01:24:35.300 --> 01:24:35.779 Huge opportunity. 01:24:36.180 --> 01:24:38.900 So that guy with that uh G650 flew in, right? 01:24:39.300 --> 01:24:40.900 And I heard a rumor around town. 01:24:40.980 --> 01:24:44.900 You know, I heard that guy walked in there, cash in hand, let me do this. 01:24:45.539 --> 01:24:47.699 Nobody from even reached out to the guy. 01:24:48.020 --> 01:24:48.819 From my understanding, yeah. 01:24:49.140 --> 01:24:50.579 That plane flies in here, and I'm the mayor. 01:24:50.659 --> 01:24:53.380 I'm going up there to shake that guy's hand and say, what can we do for you, sir? 01:24:53.539 --> 01:24:54.659 Welcome to Lake Havasu. 01:24:54.900 --> 01:24:57.940 How much money would you like to invest in our little town, and what do we get out of it? 01:24:58.020 --> 01:24:59.860 Yeah, but we, you know, we did that. 01:25:00.100 --> 01:25:03.220 Well, I was actually coming out of uh Home Depot and I saw it coming in. 01:25:03.300 --> 01:25:03.380 Yeah. 01:25:03.460 --> 01:25:05.220 And I was like, dude, that's a G650. 01:25:05.300 --> 01:25:07.220 Like, that's a$45,$50 million plane. 01:25:07.380 --> 01:25:08.739 Yeah, it's about a$50 million plane. 01:25:08.900 --> 01:25:09.060 Yeah. 01:25:09.140 --> 01:25:15.539 And so I but I'm and I'm driving down the I get on the 95, I'm watching this thing land, and I'm like, man, someone, there's some money into this town. 01:25:15.619 --> 01:25:17.300 Then boom, I was all over social media. 01:25:17.460 --> 01:25:24.900 And they come to find out who it was, and I'm not gonna drop the name, but that this is these are people that love this town that are willing to invest that type of money. 01:25:24.980 --> 01:25:35.779 But really, to go back to parts of this, you know, you know, and part of our you know, lunch was you know, bringing in um uh grocery stores, you know, bringing in grocery stores, bringing in more healthcare. 01:25:36.100 --> 01:25:41.140 The the viewers aren't gonna see that, but you know, I'm sitting there saying, hell, hey, all we need is a turboprop. 01:25:41.779 --> 01:25:42.980 Yeah, that which what is that? 01:25:43.140 --> 01:25:44.420 It's a it's a little turboprop store. 01:25:45.460 --> 01:25:45.940 It's like it, yeah. 01:25:46.020 --> 01:25:46.659 Heck yeah, that thing is. 01:25:46.819 --> 01:25:51.380 So I'm saying, you know, we need a we need air service with a turboprop, but all these people are telling me, that's impossible, Dave. 01:25:51.460 --> 01:25:53.460 And I'm like, dude, my buddies own these goddamn things. 01:25:53.539 --> 01:26:00.100 I mean, that that's not a that's not a true, you know, cattle wagon carrier turboprop, but that's a four and a half million dollar airplane. 01:26:00.260 --> 01:26:04.659 Well, it but just for conversation purposes, this this you know, look at the look at the steel pieces on there. 01:26:04.980 --> 01:26:05.860 I mean, look at that hangar. 01:26:05.940 --> 01:26:12.420 That hangar, that alone, I mean, if you even look how they mounted the HVAC, that's not even close to how much I have in paradigm storage. 01:26:12.500 --> 01:26:15.300 This would be I dude, he only has one partition here. 01:26:15.460 --> 01:26:16.579 He has none of his paneling. 01:26:16.659 --> 01:26:18.420 That's just um insulation. 01:26:18.579 --> 01:26:22.260 This could this right here, that whole piece is probably 40 grand. 01:26:22.739 --> 01:26:24.260 Yeah, swipe it left. 01:26:24.500 --> 01:26:26.100 See another one of his airplanes. 01:26:26.340 --> 01:26:26.900 Oh, there you go. 01:26:26.980 --> 01:26:27.300 Oh, yeah. 01:26:27.619 --> 01:26:29.380 Yeah, that's a Cirrus and SR22. 01:26:29.460 --> 01:26:31.300 Yeah, there's that's actually the most expensive Cirrus I think. 01:26:32.180 --> 01:26:32.579 But look at that. 01:26:32.659 --> 01:26:33.380 Look at the steel piece. 01:26:33.460 --> 01:26:34.500 This is an older hanger, you can tell. 01:26:34.980 --> 01:26:36.980 That's the one he swants, that's the one he wants 220 in. 01:26:37.380 --> 01:26:38.020 Isn't that crazy? 01:26:38.100 --> 01:26:39.619 Yeah, so that that's full insulation. 01:26:39.779 --> 01:26:41.860 Anyways, the point is that's gonna be dumped pretty cheap. 01:26:42.500 --> 01:26:45.699 Look, you got a that plane, by the way, is way more expensive than the hanger. 01:26:45.860 --> 01:26:46.100 Oh, yeah. 01:26:46.340 --> 01:26:47.779 But you know, they'll give you an idea. 01:26:48.100 --> 01:26:49.539 But but that's the point, right? 01:26:49.619 --> 01:26:52.980 And that's the the data comes from where I'm going with building paradigm. 01:26:53.300 --> 01:26:57.460 The people that are buying these units, like, for example, this is make sure you talk into the microphone. 01:26:57.539 --> 01:26:58.340 We're getting a little equally. 01:26:58.659 --> 01:27:05.460 So, right at right at right next to uh in Paradigm Storage, my last building we we built, we built some really big man kids, is what we call them. 01:27:05.619 --> 01:27:08.659 We just sold it was an 80 by 40 drive-thru. 01:27:09.060 --> 01:27:11.220 We sold it for 565,000. 01:27:11.380 --> 01:27:12.980 Nice that which was a lot, you know. 01:27:13.140 --> 01:27:19.380 But the but the point is the guy who bought it just built a brand new 50-foot center console MTI with five 500s on it. 01:27:19.539 --> 01:27:19.699 Of course. 01:27:19.940 --> 01:27:24.579 He's got a gooseneck trailer with a sport chassis, and then he's got some other toys that he's got in that thing. 01:27:24.819 --> 01:27:29.220 But the point is that people have that type of money, they're gonna spend money to protect their assets. 01:27:29.300 --> 01:27:29.539 Correct. 01:27:29.779 --> 01:27:34.819 And that's

still an asset because they purchase it fee simple, he's get the write-off, the bonus depreciation. 01:27:34.980 --> 01:27:37.220 It's like it was an all-around good investment. 01:27:37.380 --> 01:27:42.900 He was so excited that he was able to own a storage unit rather than just, you know, rather than rent it or lease it forever, right? 01:27:43.060 --> 01:27:43.220 Yeah. 01:27:43.300 --> 01:27:46.739 So if you can Well, that's what gets me so excited about the hangers. 01:27:47.060 --> 01:27:50.900 If we partner, that's mailbox money for life for the city. 01:27:51.060 --> 01:27:57.860 I'm telling you, dude, if you built that thing out, that amount of money, the city could have its own king air to fly our citizens to and from Vegas. 01:27:58.260 --> 01:28:08.739 I was looking at so there were some a couple studies done, and I don't remember the numbers, but uh, I'm gonna get I'm gonna back down into it because I think what I was looking at is almost five million dollars a year in revenue after expenses and taxes. 01:28:09.140 --> 01:28:09.779 That's what I'm saying. 01:28:09.940 --> 01:28:13.699 If five million dollars on one asset and generate I mean, why not? 01:28:13.940 --> 01:28:16.420 And that's not even as aggressive a partnership as I'm talking about. 01:28:16.659 --> 01:28:18.420 If we actually put up the money, it would be more. 01:28:18.659 --> 01:28:19.300 Well, and that's my point. 01:28:19.619 --> 01:28:23.140 And that was just Straight up on land leases and some you know, some just revenue and you know. 01:28:23.699 --> 01:28:25.699 That's just the revenue on the little bit of the land lease. 01:28:25.779 --> 01:28:29.699 It's not uh when you actually partner with somebody, you can take that number and quadruple it. 01:28:29.940 --> 01:28:30.659 Oh, yeah, for sure. 01:28:30.819 --> 01:28:30.980 Yeah. 01:28:31.060 --> 01:28:34.980 So and that's why and again, that's the that's that for but then it actually getting done. 01:28:35.060 --> 01:28:42.900 And I know there's there's some legal movement, you know, moving pieces to it, but that if someone just really put their energy into it, like all of these other towns around the country are expanding. 01:28:42.980 --> 01:28:43.619 Why can't we? 01:28:43.860 --> 01:28:45.539 It's just not that that's why I don't understand it. 01:28:45.699 --> 01:28:46.819 And do it responsibly, right? 01:28:47.300 --> 01:28:50.900 Make sure that it's if you're gonna do it, it's first class, you know. 01:28:51.220 --> 01:28:54.900 And you know, so this is such a refreshing conversation. 01:28:55.060 --> 01:28:58.180 Every single thing since this mayor thing, what are you gonna do? 01:28:58.420 --> 01:29:08.180 Infrastructure, city beautification, you know, enforce the laws, this that and you know, I give my standard canned answers, you know, this is what we're gonna do, this is how we're gonna do it, which I always provide solutions. 01:29:08.420 --> 01:29:10.340 Everybody else, they kind of give you a

word salad. 01:29:10.500 --> 01:29:12.579 I said, This is exactly how we're gonna do it, right? 01:29:12.819 --> 01:29:14.980 And then everybody that knows me say, Yeah, you'll get it done. 01:29:15.140 --> 01:29:18.340 Everybody that doesn't know me says, Well, those are impossible, or campaign promises. 01:29:18.579 --> 01:29:22.980 It's always the same things, but it's so nice to have a real conversation, be like, why can't we do this? 01:29:23.060 --> 01:29:24.579 Or let's take a look into this. 01:29:24.659 --> 01:29:28.579 Yeah, or hey, let's do this, or hey, here's a problem, let's go work on it together. 01:29:28.659 --> 01:29:36.819 Yeah, you know, and and with the case of your your your Paradigm Flats, you know, it truly this election is over in two or three weeks. 01:29:37.060 --> 01:29:45.300 And if I win it, I won't be the mayor until November, but I guarantee you I'll walk into P and Z with you and say, let's revisit the 68 and see what you want to do there. 01:29:45.539 --> 01:29:48.100 If it makes it a better project, we could probably get that done. 01:29:48.180 --> 01:29:53.779 Yeah, this is not you know, and that's and people will be like, oh, he's using the influence to you know threaten pieces. 01:29:54.020 --> 01:29:54.739 No, it's not, dude. 01:29:54.819 --> 01:29:56.260 It's just trying to make it better for the town. 01:29:56.500 --> 01:30:01.380 But there's a lot of really sophisticated builders and developers in the area that would appreciate that type of thinking as well. 01:30:01.699 --> 01:30:01.779 Okay. 01:30:02.180 --> 01:30:08.100 I mean, because there's so many guys out here that really have the capacity and they build look at look at Scott Ward. 01:30:08.180 --> 01:30:09.779 Look at the guy, look at what he's building the Riviera. 01:30:09.940 --> 01:30:16.980 I mean, dude, there's as long as it's as long as it's beneficial to the town, I will always step in to try to help. 01:30:17.300 --> 01:30:26.739 You know, if it's one of those, you know, if it's one of those, hey, we're gonna do this, it's not beneficial to the town, but it's gonna be a super high profit margin for this developer, and all we need you to do is change this. 01:30:26.819 --> 01:30:27.779 I'm gonna say no. 01:30:28.500 --> 01:30:29.220 Sorry about your luck. 01:30:29.300 --> 01:30:30.340 And I'm in a real estate business. 01:30:30.500 --> 01:30:30.900 Yeah, yeah. 01:30:31.140 --> 01:30:32.420 But you know, I'm I'm the first one. 01:30:32.500 --> 01:30:36.100 That new development out on the island there, you know, that 88 acres or whatever. 01:30:36.340 --> 01:30:42.659 I own a real estate company and I went in there and I said, I wish this was more resort and less residential, you know, which that hurts me. 01:30:42.739 --> 01:30:43.940 Yeah, but it's how I feel. 01:30:44.020 --> 01:30:47.699 I I want to see this town as it grows grow into something. 01:30:47.860 --> 01:30:48.739 I mean, we travel all over. 01:30:48.819 --> 01:30:56.100 You've been to Lotto, you've been to all these places, they are growing, and it is they're the stuff they're doing is super cool. 01:30:56.260 --> 01:30:59.300 Oh we are growing, and the things we are doing are not super cool. 01:30:59.460 --> 01:31:02.500 Yeah, it's it's hard, it's hard, you know, that's the and I think that's the problem, right? 01:31:02.579 --> 01:31:11.060 It's like when we the amount of people, the amount of exposure I've had to other municipalities and when you look at it, why can't we do the same thing? 01:31:11.220 --> 01:31:13.539 And these people that are always saying, like, Dave, it's impossible. 01:31:13.619 --> 01:31:14.420 I'm like, no, dude. 01:31:14.500 --> 01:31:15.460 I go, I travel. 01:31:15.940 --> 01:31:16.340 I travel. 01:31:17.220 --> 01:31:21.300 That's and and it is it's it's we're not inventing the wheel here. 01:31:21.699 --> 01:31:25.460 We're just looking at what they're doing, and hopefully we can do it better. 01:31:25.699 --> 01:31:34.819 There's parts in California, I hate to say it, and I don't even want to bring up the California brand, but you know, there are parts in California that it is easier to build and develop than it has been out here. 01:31:34.980 --> 01:31:35.460 I believe it. 01:31:35.619 --> 01:31:43.699 It's it's just incredible, and there's so much available, you know, land and so much opportunity, and and it's you know, as far as um, we are driving. 01:31:43.860 --> 01:31:45.140 I mean, it's just so much we can do here. 01:31:45.460 --> 01:31:48.500 We are the crown jewel of Mojave County. 01:31:49.380 --> 01:31:51.300 Eight years ago, have you been here about eight years? 01:31:51.460 --> 01:31:52.100 I've been here forever. 01:31:52.180 --> 01:31:55.300 I mean, I've been coming out here for 35 years, but I've lived here full-time going on three. 01:31:55.539 --> 01:31:56.340 Okay, three. 01:31:56.579 --> 01:31:59.220 Eight years ago, Bullhead was trash. 01:31:59.460 --> 01:32:00.260 Yeah, I remember. 01:32:00.579 --> 01:32:02.739 Okay, I mean, literally it wasn't even on the radar. 01:32:02.980 --> 01:32:03.940 It was just trash. 01:32:04.260 --> 01:32:07.300 I mean, you go to the Target there, or you drive through the place, you know what I mean. 01:32:07.460 --> 01:32:10.980 They had a couple of okay Mexican restaurants, but other than that, you're like, really, dude? 01:32:11.460 --> 01:32:17.300 They switched their city council, they are beating us in every I mean, it's not even close. 01:32:17.380 --> 01:32:19.220 If this was a heavyweight flight. 01:32:20.900 --> 01:32:22.020 No, it's not even just that. 01:32:22.100 --> 01:32:23.940 I mean, their water park. 01:32:24.180 --> 01:32:24.819 Have you seen it? 01:32:24.980 --> 01:32:25.300 Uh-uh. 01:32:25.539 --> 01:32:26.739 Google it on your phone. 01:32:26.980 --> 01:32:30.020 It's a bullhead, bullhead splash pad image. 01:32:31.940 --> 01:32:36.420 We have a couple of little things that squirt out of the ground and the

homeless bathe in it. 01:32:37.539 --> 01:32:38.420 Look at this thing. 01:32:38.579 --> 01:32:39.060 Have you seen it? 01:32:39.300 --> 01:32:40.020 I'm looking at it right now. 01:32:40.100 --> 01:32:40.739 Here are images. 01:32:41.140 --> 01:32:42.340 Holy jeez, dude. 01:32:42.579 --> 01:32:45.860 They smoke us in every single category. 01:32:49.619 --> 01:32:51.619 Oh, yeah, this is like super modern. 01:32:51.860 --> 01:32:52.340 Yeah. 01:32:55.619 --> 01:32:56.500 All that water features. 01:32:56.579 --> 01:32:58.420 I mean, yeah, covered, you know, yeah. 01:33:00.340 --> 01:33:07.619 They changed their city council, and in eight years, they took that place from trash to surpassing Lake Havasu. 01:33:09.300 --> 01:33:10.100 It's insane. 01:33:10.260 --> 01:33:10.420 Yeah. 01:33:10.579 --> 01:33:13.539 Have you looked at the background of those people that are on the city council? 01:33:13.860 --> 01:33:15.860 Yeah, they're all entrepreneurs. 01:33:16.020 --> 01:33:18.340 It's one of the guys needs major dental work, right? 01:33:19.140 --> 01:33:23.060 But he's just a good old boy that understands business, and they're all business people. 01:33:23.140 --> 01:33:25.539 They got elected, and they were like, Yeah, we're not doing this anymore. 01:33:25.619 --> 01:33:26.500 This is what we're doing. 01:33:26.819 --> 01:33:38.260 And they changed that city in eight years from they were a distant second, distant, to now they're surpassing us in every category, whether it's an Excel health facility, the splash pad. 01:33:38.579 --> 01:33:41.300 They had ADOT put in those stupid medians in the 95. 01:33:41.380 --> 01:33:42.100 You know what they did? 01:33:43.060 --> 01:33:45.300 They took over the 95 and ripped them right back out. 01:33:45.460 --> 01:33:45.779 Oh, yeah. 01:33:46.420 --> 01:33:50.500 Every everything that is pissing us off in Havazu, they solved. 01:33:50.819 --> 01:33:53.539 And I'm just saying, you know, all these people say, Well, you can't do that. 01:33:53.699 --> 01:33:54.180 Yes, you can. 01:33:54.260 --> 01:33:55.619 I talked to Leo Biosucci. 01:33:55.699 --> 01:33:56.500 You want to know what you do? 01:33:56.739 --> 01:33:58.180 95 was just paved. 01:33:58.340 --> 01:34:00.420 You assume responsibility for it right now. 01:34:00.579 --> 01:34:02.500 We rip that thing out, right? 01:34:02.739 --> 01:34:15.860 We could either do bird earth berms with decorative rock like they do in every desert town, or we could do smaller medians that actually you know don't encroach on the lanes, and we can do palm trees and beautiful, beautiful landscaping like they do in Palm Desert. 01:34:16.180 --> 01:34:18.420 These are not impossible things to do. 01:34:18.579 --> 01:34:23.860 By the way, we assume the 95 in about 20 years when it's due for a repave, you give it back. 01:34:23.940 --> 01:34:25.300 Yeah, and they hand it. 01:34:25.779 --> 01:34:26.739 Literally, it's that simple. 01:34:26.819 --> 01:34:29.220 Yeah, you know, Leo's like, you can do it, Dave, no problem. 01:34:29.380 --> 01:34:32.260 You know, and and all these people are like, that's impossible. 01:34:32.420 --> 01:34:33.060 No, it's not. 01:34:33.220 --> 01:34:34.819 It's it's not even difficult. 01:34:35.060 --> 01:34:36.340 It's not even difficult. 01:34:36.420 --> 01:34:39.699 Yeah, just because you don't know how to do it doesn't mean it's impossible. 01:34:39.860 --> 01:34:41.460 Yeah, you just gotta be able to pull the right strings. 01:34:41.940 --> 01:34:48.420 And like and that's the I think the best um way to understand if it can be done is have other people done it? 01:34:48.819 --> 01:34:50.020 Has it been a hack? 01:34:50.260 --> 01:34:51.060 Has the bullhead done it? 01:34:51.140 --> 01:34:52.579 If bullheads are, why can't we do it? 01:34:52.659 --> 01:34:56.420 You know, we don't even have to travel far now to see that it can be done. 01:34:56.579 --> 01:34:57.619 Bullhead's already done it. 01:34:57.860 --> 01:34:58.900 Vegas is doing it, you know. 01:34:58.980 --> 01:35:00.659 Yeah, Phoenix is doing all kinds of stuff. 01:35:00.739 --> 01:35:01.940 Why is it that we can't do it? 01:35:02.020 --> 01:35:04.819 You know, that's and that's really just as simple as dumped down as that. 01:35:05.220 --> 01:35:06.180 You know, so okay. 01:35:06.340 --> 01:35:07.619 So um, what else do we have? 01:35:07.779 --> 01:35:09.060 I'm waiting for you to put on the hat. 01:35:09.779 --> 01:35:10.340 I'll put it on right. 01:35:10.659 --> 01:35:12.659 I've been trying to see if I've earned your vote yet. 01:35:13.460 --> 01:35:14.340 We'll put it on right here. 01:35:14.659 --> 01:35:15.300 There you go. 01:35:15.460 --> 01:35:16.420 Yeah, you know what's funny? 01:35:16.500 --> 01:35:18.180 I won't even tuck in my ears. 01:35:19.779 --> 01:35:20.980 So there, how's it look? 01:35:21.860 --> 01:35:22.260 I'm gonna put it. 01:35:22.340 --> 01:35:22.980 I'll take a picture of it. 01:35:23.060 --> 01:35:23.940 I'm gonna take a picture of that. 01:35:24.100 --> 01:35:24.340 Right. 01:35:24.420 --> 01:35:25.860 Here's Ryan right there taking a picture of it. 01:35:26.020 --> 01:35:28.420 Ryan's non-biased uh video here. 01:35:28.659 --> 01:35:28.980 Love it. 01:35:29.140 --> 01:35:29.699 A podcast. 01:35:29.940 --> 01:35:30.500 That's right. 01:35:30.739 --> 01:35:35.699 Um, so okay, so to sum up, is there anything else you want the audience to know about you? 01:35:35.860 --> 01:35:39.140 Is there anything that you want to address that's been, oh, you know what? 01:35:39.220 --> 01:35:40.900 Let me say this before we go there. 01:35:41.220 --> 01:35:42.739 I do have one request. 01:35:42.980 --> 01:35:43.460 Sure. 01:35:44.100 --> 01:35:49.860 All of these platforms on social media that just badmouth everybody, I want to handle that. 01:35:50.020 --> 01:35:51.380 I want to get in front of this shit. 01:35:51.539 --> 01:35:53.699 Because that is some dude, people are dying over it. 01:35:53.779 -->

01:35:58.260 You know, the gentleman that owned what did that uh storage wars or whatever that passed, you know, he shot himself or killed himself. 01:35:58.420 --> 01:36:00.020 Daryl, yeah, Daryl was actually a friend of mine. 01:36:00.100 --> 01:36:03.539 I'm not convinced he killed himself, but I mean that's what the that's what the police say. 01:36:03.619 --> 01:36:06.020 But you know, I just have a hard time believing he would do that. 01:36:06.100 --> 01:36:08.579 And you know, other social media stuff. 01:36:08.980 --> 01:36:11.619 The social media stuff, and these dude, they're clowns. 01:36:11.860 --> 01:36:13.140 But you we even talked about it. 01:36:13.220 --> 01:36:15.220 There's three or four people or five people or so that are really. 01:36:15.619 --> 01:36:18.100 So the town's 60,000 people, right? 01:36:18.260 --> 01:36:20.739 Technically, we're 30% Democrat registered. 01:36:21.220 --> 01:36:27.380 There's about 20 of them that in in terms of the mare race that are just out of control. 01:36:27.460 --> 01:36:32.579 You know, Dave lies about this, Dave doesn't even put on Super Cat Fest, Dave this, Dave that, you know. 01:36:32.739 --> 01:36:34.900 I had one guy claiming I abducted children. 01:36:35.860 --> 01:36:39.699 And you know what's funny is uh I'll share this with you because it never got shared anywhere else. 01:36:39.779 --> 01:36:42.819 But I made this video and I thought it was hilarious. 01:36:42.900 --> 01:36:44.819 I was like, I'm down at SeaWorld, man. 01:36:44.980 --> 01:36:48.100 I dropped the kids off at the SeaWorld cartel, and it's weird, man. 01:36:48.180 --> 01:36:48.900 They made me pay. 01:36:48.980 --> 01:36:52.260 You know, I thought they were supposed to be paying us for this shit, you know, like stuff like that. 01:36:52.500 --> 01:36:56.819 And I was gonna have um one of my kids, you know, in my in my RV garage, I have a bathroom and all that. 01:36:56.980 --> 01:36:59.860 I was gonna have one of my kids in there like banging on the door, man, like, help help. 01:37:00.020 --> 01:37:02.739 My campaign manager was like, absolutely not, babe. 01:37:02.900 --> 01:37:03.539 Absolutely not. 01:37:03.619 --> 01:37:05.940 You know, I'm like, dude, they're saying we are abducting abducting children. 01:37:06.020 --> 01:37:06.900 I'm trying to get rid of kids. 01:37:06.980 --> 01:37:08.340 I got too many kids, right? 01:37:08.819 --> 01:37:13.940 But um anyhow, you know, these guys, man, I I feel sorry for them. 01:37:14.020 --> 01:37:24.020 You know, we've we've kind of tiptoed around it, but there's people that do things and understand the way that the world actually works, and there's people that live with their moms that don't. 01:37:24.180 --> 01:37:24.579 Yeah, yeah. 01:37:24.819 --> 01:37:26.659 You know, and and it's a mental health. 01:37:27.539 --> 01:37:28.180 Yeah, it really is. 01:37:28.420 --> 01:37:33.539 So, like there's there's like 10, 10 of these guys, and you know, one of them doesn't even live with his mom. 01:37:33.699 --> 01:37:34.500 One of them actually does. 01:37:34.579 --> 01:37:36.020 I I happen to know that for a fact. 01:37:36.100 --> 01:37:39.060 And I feel I feel really truly bad for the guy, but that's not my problem. 01:37:39.140 --> 01:37:40.819 You know, he shouldn't be out there doing this stuff. 01:37:41.300 --> 01:37:47.300 But I I you know, I look at the stuff and they you know, I I brought up that I flew up in a bush plane, right? 01:37:47.940 --> 01:38:01.539 These people would have no concept of the idea that you can fly to a different airport, land the plane, they'll hand you the keys to a car, and you can go anywhere you want, come back and give them back the car, and you don't have to pay for it, right? 01:38:01.699 --> 01:38:04.819 They don't know about courtesy cards, they don't even know that this world exists. 01:38:05.300 --> 01:38:09.699 So to them, everything's impossible because they've never done anything, you know. 01:38:09.940 --> 01:38:14.100 And it that's not to say like all Democrats have never done anything, it's just these 10 or 20 guys. 01:38:14.180 --> 01:38:19.380 When you when you get that level of hate, it's because you're you're too stupid to breathe, man. 01:38:20.340 --> 01:38:26.500 Well, it it I like I say, I don't I you know don't want to carry too much into it, but the it's truly a mental health issue. 01:38:26.659 --> 01:38:32.739 Like it's because they've never met you, what have you, and you're like, you're going so far into like what what's the objective for what? 01:38:32.900 --> 01:38:37.140 Like, because it just because they're like it's so common. 01:38:37.460 --> 01:38:47.380 Honestly, so like in in the case of most of them, I think that they're so kind of insignificant in life that they feel if they can affect some kind of outcome that it gives them purpose. 01:38:47.940 --> 01:38:54.260 You know, but there's that little viral thing going around right now that says, you know, hey, if somebody's you know, if nobody's talking behind your back, you're not relevant. 01:38:54.500 --> 01:38:59.539 If somebody's you know, if somebody doesn't take try to take advantage of you, you have no value, right? 01:38:59.699 --> 01:39:01.779 But at the very end of it, it says something very important. 01:39:01.940 --> 01:39:03.460 Hate always comes from below. 01:39:03.699 --> 01:39:05.539 That's true, it never comes from above. 01:39:05.860 --> 01:39:13.860 You know, anybody that I know that really has a lot to just respect in life and has been kicked in the teeth, they just don't say things like that. 01:39:14.020 --> 01:39:20.100 No, they just don't, they don't get on platforms, they are not keyboard uh workers, they just don't play that game. 01:39:20.260 --> 01:39:24.659 But that's the one thing I'm like, you know, I'm gonna coalition of that, I'm gonna go after some of these people. 01:39:24.819 --> 01:39:30.180 I like joking around online, you know, having fun, even talking

a little bit, you know, but not dude. 01:39:30.260 --> 01:39:32.100 I don't generally hate anybody. 01:39:32.340 --> 01:39:35.060 Like there's just not enough time in the day to do it. 01:39:35.140 --> 01:39:39.300 Like, how could you even let somebody get inside your head that much that you would care? 01:39:39.539 --> 01:39:41.300 Dude, I I'll do one step above that. 01:39:41.380 --> 01:39:42.980 I barely remember people's names. 01:39:43.140 --> 01:39:44.020 Yeah, just don't remember. 01:39:44.260 --> 01:39:49.539 Well, every time I open Facebook, if I open my Facebook right now, I can show you the same four or five names, it'll be all the notifications. 01:39:51.140 --> 01:39:54.739 No, these ones are actually real, but they they it's like a full-time job for them. 01:39:54.819 --> 01:39:56.260 And I'm like, dude, don't you have to do that? 01:39:56.420 --> 01:40:05.140 If you guys spent half the effort on trying to make money, improving your life, doing whatever that you're spending on this. 01:40:05.380 --> 01:40:15.300 If and I'm not even joking, if they spent half the effort towards self-improvement, whether that be financially, mentally, physically, they would be years ahead of where they're at right now. 01:40:15.940 --> 01:40:20.340 There's a reason why they're all broke, you know, and it's and living that life. 01:40:20.579 --> 01:40:21.940 Yeah, just living that life, you know. 01:40:22.260 --> 01:40:24.980 And those are the guys, it's like, oh, you're filthy rich friends. 01:40:25.060 --> 01:40:27.140 It's like, dude, what is wrong with having money? 01:40:27.380 --> 01:40:29.140 When did poor become the new cool, man? 01:40:29.220 --> 01:40:30.100 Because I can't dig that. 01:40:30.180 --> 01:40:31.300 I don't want to be poor, you know. 01:40:31.460 --> 01:40:32.500 Nobody really wants to live that way. 01:40:32.579 --> 01:40:33.060 It's very hard. 01:40:33.300 --> 01:40:33.619 No, yeah. 01:40:33.779 --> 01:40:39.140 No, no, you know, and money doesn't, you know, bring happiness, but I can tell you, lack of money sure brings sadness. 01:40:39.619 --> 01:40:43.539 Well, last thing you want is have money, or you know, you don't have any money and you have some healthcare issues or something. 01:40:43.699 --> 01:40:44.420 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 01:40:44.819 --> 01:40:45.860 It's just like it's very difficult. 01:40:45.940 --> 01:40:47.380 You you know, that's where I'm at in my life. 01:40:47.460 --> 01:40:58.180 I'm trying to store a little nest egg because my son, I he had some really big things happen to him, and it's cost me a lot of money, and I was so blessed that I had prepared for that because our insurance dropped us, because insurance is another big issue. 01:40:58.500 --> 01:41:00.100 Oh, that's that's a nationwide issue. 01:41:00.180 --> 01:41:08.500 And I and I, you know, as staunch Republican as I am, and I do not believe in government-run healthcare, but we got some issues here, man. 01:41:08.659 --> 01:41:17.380 Because

that that the number one driver, in my opinion, of middle class going towards poverty right now, fuel prices, healthcare. 01:41:17.860 --> 01:41:19.220 Fuel prices drive everything up. 01:41:19.380 --> 01:41:23.539 You want to talk construction costs, materials, they drive everything up, right? 01:41:23.699 --> 01:41:24.900 And it's food, everything. 01:41:25.220 --> 01:41:35.060 But healthcare, I mean, for my family, we're spending like$2,500 a month, you know, and same, and it's like normal people can't afford that, you know what I mean? 01:41:35.140 --> 01:41:36.819 Like if you're working$20 an hour job. 01:41:39.220 --> 01:41:41.140 Yeah, no, it's a shit, it's not even a great policy. 01:41:41.539 --> 01:41:45.140 You know, and a great policy is more like six grand a month for my family, right? 01:41:45.300 --> 01:41:50.340 But you know, if you're making$20 or$23 an hour,$24 an hour, you're not gonna be able to afford that. 01:41:50.579 --> 01:41:57.060 And and a house, and a car, and a truck, and a and a boat, you know, like and middle class used to mean middle class. 01:41:57.140 --> 01:42:03.539 You know, you had the the two cars, a couple of toys, a house, you know, the the house with an actual yard and a dog. 01:42:03.619 --> 01:42:06.500 You know, it's like I think it was like 2.3 kids and a you know what I mean. 01:42:07.539 --> 01:42:08.180 That was the number. 01:42:08.420 --> 01:42:16.180 But uh, you know, everybody keeps you know over on the affordable housing thing, everybody keeps saying we gotta make houses cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. 01:42:16.420 --> 01:42:17.779 You can't you can't. 01:42:17.860 --> 01:42:18.739 You got an iPhone, right? 01:42:18.819 --> 01:42:19.140 You know what? 01:42:19.220 --> 01:42:22.260 You're you're in business, and everybody in your podcast is in business. 01:42:22.420 --> 01:42:25.060 What happens if you keep trying to make this cheaper and cheaper and cheaper? 01:42:25.140 --> 01:42:25.860 You end up with junk. 01:42:26.100 --> 01:42:30.500 If you you try to make these glasses cheaper and cheaper and cheaper, you're gonna end up with glasses you don't want. 01:42:30.900 --> 01:42:36.340 Wouldn't it be a better philosophy to say, why don't we bring some industry here so the have nots can become haves? 01:42:36.500 --> 01:42:36.739 Yeah. 01:42:36.900 --> 01:42:40.819 I would rather bring up the low than try to take something good and make it cheap. 01:42:41.060 --> 01:42:48.020 Well, bring in good businesses that are able to generate enough revenue that's relevant in the world and to actually pay good labor and pay money. 01:42:48.420 --> 01:42:49.940 And people say this is impossible. 01:42:50.100 --> 01:42:50.579 No, it's not. 01:42:50.739 --> 01:42:51.140 No, it's not. 01:42:51.380 --> 01:42:51.619 It's not. 01:42:52.579 --> 01:42:57.860 I I had a guy come to my foundry deal and he's like, Dave, he goes, You're saying this stuff, and people aren't listening. 01:42:58.100 --> 01:43:00.579 He goes, I lived in this small town, I don't remember what state it was in. 01:43:00.739 --> 01:43:09.140 He goes, but we had a military installation next to us, and the whole town just lived on the military, just whatever the military installation, that's what they do, right? 01:43:09.380 --> 01:43:13.300 And finally they got a city council together, and the city council says, We're done with this, man. 01:43:13.460 --> 01:43:22.980 And they created an industry zone, and they got all these businesses in, and he goes, All of a sudden, that town went from starving to thriving. 01:43:23.380 --> 01:43:31.460 You know, so I I think I told you at lunch that this guy, uh, Mark called me from Dunkin' Bolt, and it's like a hundred million dollar a year. 01:43:31.539 --> 01:43:32.900 You guys can Google it if you want. 01:43:33.060 --> 01:43:36.020 But he called me and he said, Hey, you don't want to set up a distribution thing out there. 01:43:36.100 --> 01:43:37.380 And I'm like, okay, you know, whatever. 01:43:37.460 --> 01:43:38.579 And you know, what's that look like? 01:43:38.739 --> 01:43:40.260 He's like, I don't know, like 20 jobs. 01:43:40.340 --> 01:43:43.940 And you know, after we talked a couple of times, he's like, I'm thinking about moving the whole thing out there. 01:43:44.020 --> 01:43:46.100 You know, where's the closest rail service? 01:43:46.659 --> 01:43:48.180 This is not impossible, guys. 01:43:48.260 --> 01:43:49.699 These people are actually already calling me. 01:43:49.779 --> 01:43:53.300 I had a big cabinet manufacturer, not kitchen cabinets, like big metal cabinets. 01:43:53.460 --> 01:43:57.220 They called me and they said, Hey man, you know, we want to talk about possibly relocating a half-soon. 01:43:57.380 --> 01:43:59.060 That these are pretty big businesses, man. 01:43:59.140 --> 01:44:07.220 You know, if you get call it 200 or 300 skilled labor jobs in here that are career paths, right? 01:44:07.460 --> 01:44:08.020 Like real career. 01:44:08.420 --> 01:44:23.619 Injection molding, uh, machining, whether you know, Dunkin' Bolt comes, manufacturing and that a company that you could start at, and you know, you start at 18 or 20 bucks an hour, you work there for 30 years, and when you're done, you're making you know 80 bucks an hour, 60 bucks an hour. 01:44:24.180 --> 01:44:25.300 This is not impossible. 01:44:25.539 --> 01:44:29.300 Or companies like that that issue stock and plan on exiting. 01:44:29.699 --> 01:44:32.420 Uh well, Dunkin' Bolt's actually employee-owned, believe it or not. 01:44:32.500 --> 01:44:32.739 Yeah, I know. 01:44:33.140 --> 01:44:36.980 I started Google it and all that, but because I was like, I started researching the guy, you know. 01:44:37.460 --> 01:44:39.220 Those are the companies that are really forward-thinking. 01:44:39.300 --> 01:44:48.500 Like, that's why there's so many roll-ups with HVACs, roofing companies, whatever you have a private equity structure, these guys come in and say, hey,

look, it's employee-owned, and employees have that have stock. 01:44:48.819 --> 01:44:50.739 When I go, that way when they're done, they can tell you. 01:44:51.060 --> 01:44:54.500 Yeah, and they have a they have a basically retirement plan built in, not just a 401k. 01:44:54.579 --> 01:44:54.980 It's a big deal. 01:44:55.140 --> 01:44:59.140 Well, if you actually research 401ks in the history, they were never designed to be retirement again. 01:44:59.460 --> 01:45:00.579 Oh no, they're so bad. 01:45:00.819 --> 01:45:02.819 It's uh it's just I that's a rabbit hole in itself. 01:45:02.980 --> 01:45:04.180 Okay, so let's wrap this up. 01:45:04.260 --> 01:45:15.779 So, is there anything else that you want the community to know about you that whether it's just you know, uh bring up something that's been negative online, positive online, or just something you want to share? 01:45:15.940 --> 01:45:35.460 Because again, like I said in the beginning, um, and I said this to Cal too, to go into something like this takes, I think, a very special person that really cares about the community and just is really trying to create an impact, but is obviously just pulling at their heart to be a part of something because they want to make change. 01:45:35.619 --> 01:45:39.220 They need to like you feel like if he doesn't, it's gonna get really bad. 01:45:39.539 --> 01:45:40.900 I you know, I'm not gonna say that. 01:45:40.980 --> 01:45:42.180 I'm not a doomsday man. 01:45:42.500 --> 01:45:47.220 You know, I'm not gonna say if I don't win, the half of going down in flames. 01:45:47.300 --> 01:45:48.980 It's not true, it's just not gonna get any better. 01:45:49.060 --> 01:45:49.220 Yeah. 01:45:49.380 --> 01:45:49.779 Fair enough. 01:45:49.940 --> 01:45:58.819 Okay, and it's all the things that are being said, you know, by the current regime, we have heard for eight years. 01:46:00.020 --> 01:46:02.100 If it worked, we wouldn't be where we're at. 01:46:02.659 --> 01:46:02.900 Right? 01:46:02.980 --> 01:46:04.739 And so there's there's two things here, right? 01:46:04.819 --> 01:46:07.940 You mentioned earlier that you know you sacrificed because you're a you're a workhorse. 01:46:08.020 --> 01:46:11.300 Well, there's two types of horses there's work horses and there's show ponies. 01:46:11.699 --> 01:46:12.819 Which one do you think I am? 01:46:15.460 --> 01:46:16.020 Yeah, it's true. 01:46:16.420 --> 01:46:18.819 I will sit there and I don't, I'm not a politician. 01:46:18.980 --> 01:46:24.980 If you say we can't do this, I'm gonna say, okay, well, we're gonna sit down and figure out a way to do it, right? 01:46:25.060 --> 01:46:26.340 And we're gonna get it solved. 01:46:26.500 --> 01:46:33.300 And if you tell me, well, you can't do that, I'm gonna say, Well, we're gonna figure out a way around that, but no matter what, we're gonna get it done. 01:46:33.460 --> 01:46:34.260 Yeah, right. 01:46:34.420 --> 01:46:37.460 And it, you know, so people are we running out of

time? 01:46:37.539 --> 01:46:44.579 Oh, I thought he was saying it doesn't matter what it is, what campaign products, you can pick pick any one of them, right? 01:46:44.739 --> 01:46:46.420 And I'll say, This is how we're gonna do it. 01:46:46.739 --> 01:46:52.900 And it may not happen on the first day, but I guarantee you I'm not gonna stop working on it until it is. 01:46:53.300 --> 01:46:54.020 And that's the difference. 01:46:54.100 --> 01:46:55.220 I'm not a show pony, man. 01:46:55.300 --> 01:46:56.819 I'm not gonna tell you what you want to hear. 01:46:56.980 --> 01:46:59.940 I'm gonna tell you this is what we're doing, and then we're gonna go do it. 01:47:00.020 --> 01:47:02.659 If I say, like Ryan, try to pick up that hat right there. 01:47:04.100 --> 01:47:05.380 Okay, you didn't do it. 01:47:05.539 --> 01:47:07.300 Try to pick up that hat there right there. 01:47:07.699 --> 01:47:10.260 Okay, so you didn't try to pick up the hat, you picked up the hat. 01:47:10.739 --> 01:47:11.380 Do you see the difference? 01:47:11.940 --> 01:47:14.819 There's no trying, there's either doing or don't doing, right? 01:47:14.900 --> 01:47:16.100 And that's that's a great example. 01:47:16.180 --> 01:47:18.739 I saw that on social media the other day, so I thought I'd bring it up. 01:47:18.900 --> 01:47:19.699 Yeah, but that's it. 01:47:19.779 --> 01:47:22.500 We're not gonna try to fix things, we're gonna fix them. 01:47:22.579 --> 01:47:23.300 Yeah, and that's it. 01:47:23.539 --> 01:47:26.100 And I love that because you know, it's just I think that's what everybody wants. 01:47:26.260 --> 01:47:30.340 The people that believe that the city needs to be improved, they just want to see someone who's gonna do it. 01:47:30.420 --> 01:47:31.699 You have a tracker of doing things. 01:47:31.860 --> 01:47:32.260 Yeah, yeah. 01:47:32.340 --> 01:47:34.180 You know, if we started Super Cat from nothing. 01:47:34.260 --> 01:47:36.739 Now it's you know, one of the premier events on the West Coast. 01:47:36.980 --> 01:47:38.100 It raises hundreds of thousands. 01:47:38.260 --> 01:47:41.300 No, it's a pain in the ass, but but we do it. 01:47:41.779 --> 01:47:42.579 It's not easy, man. 01:47:42.659 --> 01:47:43.860 People think, oh, maybe it's just fun. 01:47:44.020 --> 01:47:44.500 He's out there drinking. 01:47:44.579 --> 01:47:46.579 I'm like, no, yeah, no, it's it's real work. 01:47:46.819 --> 01:47:48.180 Yes, it takes months. 01:47:48.340 --> 01:47:48.980 It takes months. 01:47:49.060 --> 01:47:52.100 And during the event, I get to go to bed at like 2 a.m. 01:47:52.260 --> 01:47:53.699 and my phone starts ringing at 5 a.m. 01:47:53.860 --> 01:47:56.340 for five days straight, you know, so that's always a good time. 01:47:56.579 --> 01:47:58.980 But uh little lethargic days. 01:47:59.140 --> 01:48:02.659 Yeah, but you know, I mean, literally, yeah, I I do have a proven track record, right? 01:48:02.739 --> 01:48:05.539 I took a personal website, now it's the largest performance boating website in the country. 01:48:05.619 --> 01:48:06.340 I started a real team. 01:48:06.659 --> 01:48:08.980 You showed me proof of how much view it's incredible. 01:48:09.060 --> 01:48:09.380 Yeah. 01:48:09.619 --> 01:48:11.699 I I you know, me and my wife started a real estate team. 01:48:11.779 --> 01:48:15.460 Now it's one of the top five and or top three five and have a sew every single year. 01:48:15.539 --> 01:48:17.619 You know, we're averaging 75 million in sales. 01:48:17.779 --> 01:48:19.779 We don't even have any developers backing us. 01:48:19.860 --> 01:48:20.659 That's all resale. 01:48:20.739 --> 01:48:21.300 Yeah, right. 01:48:21.460 --> 01:48:21.779 It's great. 01:48:21.860 --> 01:48:24.819 Yeah, so do we have track records of success? 01:48:24.980 --> 01:48:25.619 I would say yes. 01:48:25.699 --> 01:48:30.180 You know, I've I've like any person, you know, you have your failures, right? 01:48:30.260 --> 01:48:31.940 You tried something and it didn't work. 01:48:32.260 --> 01:48:34.180 But those failures make you better. 01:48:34.260 --> 01:48:34.500 Yeah. 01:48:34.739 --> 01:48:42.340 And after a while, you start figuring out that you don't want to fail and you start seeing the warning sides on the road, and you're able to navigate those things, right? 01:48:42.420 --> 01:48:44.180 What do they say about captains, boat captains? 01:48:44.260 --> 01:48:47.699 Everybody wants to be a boat captain until it's time to do captain things, right? 01:48:48.579 --> 01:48:49.699 And that's that's the same as this. 01:48:49.779 --> 01:48:52.180 You know, have I ever been a mayor in city politics? 01:48:52.340 --> 01:48:52.579 No. 01:48:52.819 --> 01:48:53.860 But a budget's a budget. 01:48:53.940 --> 01:48:56.980 And as I asked you, you ever built a skyscraper? 01:48:57.220 --> 01:48:57.380 No. 01:48:57.619 --> 01:48:58.100 Could you? 01:48:58.819 --> 01:48:59.220 Yes. 01:48:59.699 --> 01:49:12.980 You know, so we're just gonna take the certain skill sets that I have and apply them towards this job, and we're gonna take the network of people I I tend to like to surround myself with people like yourself, you know, high, high-level, intelligent people. 01:49:13.380 --> 01:49:15.460 And like I said, they're not electing me, man. 01:49:15.539 --> 01:49:18.659 I'm not gonna go in there with a you know, prime example. 01:49:18.739 --> 01:49:24.340 I'll show you uh Sean Sean Buckley was the CEO of Go Lake Havasu, right? 01:49:24.420 --> 01:49:33.140 And I've made it very publicly that uh oops that I intend on replacing replacing go-lake havasu. 01:49:33.940 --> 01:49:41.220 But if you look at that text to them, it basically says, I'm not coming in with a sledgehammer and saying you guys are all fired. 01:49:41.539 --> 01:49:46.819 It says I want to take a look at the assets that they have, the positive things that they have. 01:49:46.980 --> 01:49:53.300 I want to look at the visitor center and see how we can keep that

going, see how we can retain any of the positive things and reform. 01:49:53.699 --> 01:49:54.260 That's a great text. 01:49:54.579 --> 01:49:55.699 Reform and reshape that. 01:49:55.860 --> 01:49:59.140 Well, that I didn't send that, you know, with the idea of being on a podcast. 01:49:59.220 --> 01:50:03.539 I'm saying though that we're already making plans on how, you know, people how to make it better, right? 01:50:03.699 --> 01:50:09.940 When I say I want to scrape go lake havasu, I do want to scrape go like havasu, but I don't want the women working the visits visitor center to lose their job. 01:50:10.100 --> 01:50:12.420 I don't want to lose the go-lake havasu website. 01:50:12.579 --> 01:50:14.020 I don't want to lose these things. 01:50:14.260 --> 01:50:18.900 I want to go in and say, okay, what do we really need to do this? 01:50:19.140 --> 01:50:20.100 And let's do that. 01:50:20.180 --> 01:50:21.860 And then how can we make you effective? 01:50:21.940 --> 01:50:25.300 And then the rest of the money we're gonna put towards something else that is actually effective towards two. 01:50:25.619 --> 01:50:28.579 Yeah, that's really important for people to see is that you're already doing work. 01:50:28.980 --> 01:50:32.819 In essence, you're already kind of getting making those calls and phone calls and meetings or whatever you want. 01:50:33.539 --> 01:50:37.619 Okay, once if I do and when I do, this is what we need to start right now. 01:50:37.940 --> 01:50:42.420 I don't wanna I don't want to hit the ground and say, okay, guys, let's have a meeting. 01:50:42.579 --> 01:50:45.860 I want to hit the ground and say, implement plan A. 01:50:46.260 --> 01:50:46.420 Yeah. 01:50:47.140 --> 01:50:47.300 Yeah. 01:50:47.539 --> 01:50:47.940 Love it. 01:50:48.020 --> 01:50:48.260 Cool. 01:50:48.420 --> 01:51:02.739 So we're already, yes, we're already making plans with several people that either were former or current with the city to say, yes, you know, Sean, if you can bring me contract tourism, prove that you're profitable more than yourself, you're hired by the city. 01:51:02.819 --> 01:51:06.100 In the meantime, you're in charge of getting all this stuff back into the fold. 01:51:06.260 --> 01:51:06.659 Love it. 01:51:06.900 --> 01:51:07.140 Right. 01:51:07.220 --> 01:51:16.180 And if there's a million examples of that, you know, I've already shouldn't go on record saying I've had a lot of meetings about things that are going to change, but yeah, we've had a few. 01:51:16.260 --> 01:51:17.140 How does that sound? 01:51:17.380 --> 01:51:19.860 I would say that things are-coming to you at the foundry, got it. 01:51:20.020 --> 01:51:20.420 Yeah, yeah. 01:51:20.500 --> 01:51:22.500 Well, you'd be surprised they're coming to be all over the place. 01:51:22.739 --> 01:51:24.340 But yeah, you know, you're in business. 01:51:24.420 --> 01:51:29.300 And in business, I've always had a philosophy, and I kind of came up with it when I was young. 01:51:29.539 --> 01:51:33.619 Uh, when you're in business, there's only two states of business that you're in. 01:51:33.779 --> 01:51:36.260 You're either inspirational or desperate. 01:51:36.659 --> 01:51:37.460 Desperational, right? 01:51:37.860 --> 01:51:37.940 Yeah. 01:51:38.020 --> 01:51:38.659 That's a good way to say that. 01:51:38.819 --> 01:51:41.779 So, like in the in, I'll take the DCB MTI story, right? 01:51:41.860 --> 01:51:43.619 Because you're you're you're pretty familiar with that, right? 01:51:43.940 --> 01:51:50.900 So MTI played in their little corner over here, and DCB is inspirational in Lake Havasu and all the West Coast, right? 01:51:51.140 --> 01:51:54.900 Well, DCB went out there, started doing the Miami thing, right? 01:51:54.980 --> 01:51:57.539 Well, MTI responded and they came over here. 01:51:57.619 --> 01:52:01.779 But the problem is the MTI has the big center consoles and all that. 01:52:02.020 --> 01:52:08.180 So DCB all of a sudden went from inspirational to putting together renderings of a center console. 01:52:08.420 --> 01:52:08.900 You remember that? 01:52:09.699 --> 01:52:13.380 Now they were operating as desperational, right? 01:52:13.619 --> 01:52:17.699 When their customers would sell and buy an MTI, they would call and be like, hey, what's going on? 01:52:18.180 --> 01:52:19.220 That is desperate. 01:52:19.460 --> 01:52:22.819 They finally responded back with their new True Tunnel series, right? 01:52:23.300 --> 01:52:25.140 And so now they're bringing back inspiration. 01:52:25.220 --> 01:52:28.819 But if you're always leading from inspiration, you're winning. 01:52:28.900 --> 01:52:29.220 Yeah. 01:52:29.380 --> 01:52:35.460 And I'm watching the opposite campaigns make adjustments to their campaigns because of me. 01:52:36.020 --> 01:52:37.220 That is not inspirational. 01:52:37.300 --> 01:52:38.100 That's desperational. 01:52:38.420 --> 01:52:39.460 That's how you know you're winning. 01:52:39.619 --> 01:52:40.900 Yeah, that's a good way to put it. 01:52:40.980 --> 01:52:41.220 Yeah. 01:52:41.300 --> 01:52:42.100 Well, I respect it. 01:52:42.180 --> 01:52:42.420 Yeah. 01:52:42.579 --> 01:52:42.900 Cool. 01:52:42.980 --> 01:52:44.420 Dave, thank you very much for coming, man. 01:52:44.659 --> 01:52:46.180 You're very welcome, and I appreciate it. 01:52:46.420 --> 01:52:47.380 I'd love to come back anytime. 01:52:48.180 --> 01:52:51.460 If we win, we're gonna be sitting down here talking all the time about how we can make things better. 01:52:51.699 --> 01:52:55.699 And anything I can do to help you and just be a fly on the wall at times, you know. 01:52:55.779 --> 01:52:56.500 I don't ask for much. 01:52:56.659 --> 01:52:57.380 I'm pretty easy. 01:52:57.460 --> 01:53:01.860 I just want to stay in my lane and do good work and improve other people's lives. 01:53:01.940 --> 01:53:03.300 And this is my focus now, man. 01:53:03.539 --> 01:53:04.500 Well, it's a really cool place. 01:53:04.579 --> 01:53:05.300 I think I'm gonna join it. 01:53:05.460 --> 01:53:05.779 Come on by. 01:53:05.940 --> 01:53:06.659 I'd love to have dude. 01:53:06.739 --> 01:53:10.340 It's so cool to see everybody in here because we have some you know prominent people in the city I can join. 01:53:10.659 --> 01:53:14.659 And I get to see them every day, and that the relationships are monetizing more and more because I see them every day. 01:53:14.739 --> 01:53:15.779 You know, it's really pretty neat. 01:53:15.860 --> 01:53:17.699 So, well, thank you very much for all the support, man. 01:53:17.779 --> 01:53:18.579 I really do appreciate it. 01:53:18.739 --> 01:53:19.140 No problem. 01:53:19.539 --> 01:53:23.380 We'll get this out here shortly, and uh hopefully we'll just get this in front of people to get to know you more. 01:53:23.460 --> 01:53:26.819 So well, if you live in Lake Havasu, check the check the box for Riverdave. 01:53:26.900 --> 01:53:31.539 My preferred slate, although we're not running as a slate, is Michelle led Sam's Carmano, and Neil Tinsley as well. 01:53:31.619 --> 01:53:32.180 There you go, buddy. 01:53:32.420 --> 01:53:32.659 Cool. 01:53:32.739 --> 01:53:33.619 All right, guys, thank you so much. 01:53:33.779 --> 01:53:34.420 Thanks.