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Speaker 3: All right, welcome in, Kevin McCullough. Glad you're with us. It was a late night for me. I don't know about you. And it was not as late as I probably would have liked it to be if it could have turned out differently. But somewhere around after midnight last night, we knew for certain that the House and the Senate were both going to be controlled by the party that is not in the White House right now. And that is not really all that uncommon for off-year elections, for midterms especially. But last night, it felt like there was a pretty strong rebuke to the president in terms of certain aspects of what he has done. And I think I'm looking at text threads and stuff today from people that were writing me last night and asking me questions. And I think that one of the things that's just really obvious and jumping out at me is that the immediacy of immediate action. is always kind of forefront on voters minds. And one of the things that I think that people just had a hard time getting past was that gas prices had teased us in the first year that, that Trump had been in office. He got the gas prices back down from where they were under Biden. Remember under Biden at the high, at the high point, they were $ 5 nationally, nearly, nearly $ 9 in California. And, uh, President Trump got them down to just under $ 2, like $ 1. 90 in about nine months of his first year. And then the conflict with Iran took place and now everything is adjusted and it's not been good. People are still feeling the pain at the pump every time they drive past gas station. It's like a reminder, oh, that could have been better. We were hoping it would have been better. Why isn't it better? And I think that if you understand that, then you understand what happened last night in the race. Here's what I don't think yesterday was. I don't think yesterday was a mandate for democratic policies because none of them espoused any. Like, if you think about the messaging that Abdul Al-Sayed had in Michigan, that the reason you were paying more for your groceries was because Israel wanted to bomb Palestinian children, which was a heinous closing argument. But that's who Abdul Al-Sayed is. That was entirely different than James Tallarico saying, who was running around Texas saying we need to be kinder to each other and we need to open our borders again. Like, I don't, I don't know how you cobble together the people that won last night and pull the hating. Trump does not become a governing policy. So the person that has his work cut out for him is, um, the incoming speaker who presumably will be Chuck Schumer and the incoming, uh, Speaker of the House, Hakeem Jeffries, they're both going to have to figure out what they want to try to accomplish as a caucus in the Congress. And what was interesting about the president last night, he called into one of the networks and he basically said, look, I'll talk to anybody. I'll sit down and work with anybody. Let's work together to get stuff done. But I don't know that they have the governing power to do that. I don't know that they have people that are going to work together in a way that is going to be productive. I know that they're going to scream crazy things at each other. And I don't know that long term. Well, here's what I mean. So there's this text thread I have. Me and my football buddies, right? We talk smack about each other's football team. That's the purpose of the thread. It's just to completely denigrate each other's football team all year long. Even when the season's not on, we talk smack to each other. And as a bunch of Giants, Cowboys, and Jets fans, you can imagine we have a lot of smack to talk to each other because we've all been awful in recent years. I mean, terrible. But one of them said this morning... As we were all kind of starting the day, he said, anybody that didn't see last night coming had their head in the sand because the last year and a half haven't been good for a lot of people. And I, I, it kind of hit me that here's a guy who's fairly, he's, he's a law enforcement officer. He's fairly knowledgeable about what's going on and so forth. And he, he doesn't know that the average family is bringing home 2000 more dollars in their pocket this year over last year. And he, he's not aware of at least that the tax that he will have to pay on his police officer overtime is, is non-existent. And that, that happened because of the current president. And I almost think that the president got so much done so fast that Like the border was solved in month one. The economy, the big, beautiful bill, all the stuff that they worked on to get things done. They got a lot of stuff done in those first two years. And I think that when Americans are relatively comfortable, then they start picking at things to pick at. And gas prices are by far the easiest indicator that, political
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party being able to create discontent with people. So I don't think that you're going to see a lot of foot dragging on that in the days to come. I could be wrong. I certainly deserve to be wrong if I am. But I think that that's going to be something that gets dealt with fairly quickly. And then all the rest of the stuff that he's done, if you think about it, He probably won't get any more Supreme Court justices, but he probably won't need them. The court's somewhat young. He's got all of his cabinet members approved. He doesn't need the Senate confirmation for any either of those things. He filled, what was it, 400 vacancies on the court's. already in his six years in office. So I think that there's, there's a lot of good that he's already done lasting good that will be in the judiciary. He has the department of war fully funded. He's got everything moving forward. There is going forward. There is not a, there is not a single element that as an executive that he really, really needs to push through Congress to get done. he could do a lot to help the economy. They could get some credit for it if they were willing to work with him. But the truth is he front loaded this term with getting all the hard stuff down early. And now it's just going to help us recover. And I think that despite Congress and the trials that are going to go on there, I think that we're going to have a good couple of years economically because the foundation is solid. All right, portions of that Kevin show brought to you by DFW Direct Insurance. Please check out DFW Direct Insurance if you have not. I know that there's a lot of people complaining about Obamacare and rising costs and all the rest. If you haven't called my friend Vic on his personal cell phone and said, give me the insurance deal that you gave Kevin, 817-449-5557. He helped us save $ 400 a month, nearly $ 5, 000 on the year. And no out-of-pocket costs when we go see the doctor.
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Speaker 2: Here he is from New York.
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Speaker 8: That Kevin.
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Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back. Glad to have you with us. It's that Kevin show everything online at that Kevin show dot com, including our long running series. How do we live? It's there in podcast form every single day. And I hope that you come back and take avail of it. If you have not had a chance to hear it live, these these shepherds that come and spend a week with us, I really value that time. And I know that they really care about encouraging you in the same process. What are we encouraging each other about? Well, if you're not a believer, this may not make sense, but that's okay. I'm going to challenge you with it anyway. I believe that we as Christians, those of us that follow Jesus, have a calling to
impact the culture. And we live in a culture that may not like God, may not like His Word especially. They may even be fine with a generic version of God in their own brain, but when you attach that God to a Bible that has biblical attributes attached to it in terms of who He is, that becomes a completely different matter. And certainly here in the New York tri-state area, but I think in a lot of Western culture, The people that believe in those things are looked upon with suspicion or even outright hostility. Which brings us back to Psalm 27, which is what we're talking about this week with Ryan Batesell of Emergence Church in New Jersey, where the writer says in verse 2, though the armies in camp around me want to eat my flesh want to kill me and not just one of them but an entire army of them taking me you know 1700 to one in odds that I will not fear because God is with us and we're looking at this entire chapter this week and Ryan it's been a really illuminating discussion thus far so thank you again for doing it we're getting into a chapter now where the focus changes a little bit and it's noticeable in the language but what are we looking at I think.
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Speaker 8: What we're seeing now is, you know, he gave us these great truths of we don't need to fear because God is with us. And the heart of that is when God's the most beautiful thing, right? And so the most beautiful thing in our lives can't be ever taken from us. Like, we really don't have to live in fear. And now you got it right, Kevin. You can feel it almost. It shifts a bit to... How do we build that heart? What's the weight room? What's the exercises in our life that begin to build that heart? And that's the next couple of verses in the passage.
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Speaker 3: So why don't you just touch on them, read them for us, and then tell us what they mean.
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Speaker 8: You know what? I actually don't have my Bible.
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Speaker 3: Let me read them for you, and we'll go from there.
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Speaker 8: And it would be cool if I just ripped it right out of memory. You'd be very impressed.
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Speaker 3: Well, you do memorize a good chunk of your messages every week, so you probably have inputted whatever's in to this week's sermon. But let me just pick up on verse 7. Hear my voice when I call. Lord, be merciful to me and answer me. My heart says of you, seek his face, your face, Lord, I will seek. Don't hide your face from me. Don't turn your servant away in anger. You've been my helper. Don't reject me or forsake me, God, my savior. That's just verses seven through nine there.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, nice. And this gets into some of what we began to hit on yesterday about just the importance of building the posture of, hey, I'm going to seek God. I'm going to seek him in really two ways. One, corporately, which was so helpful, what you shared yesterday about the need to get around the people of God in times of fear, in times where things are hard. Don't run and don't isolate. That's where people get in huge trouble. And, you know, I was thinking yesterday throughout the day, a little bit after we hung up. I think a lot of Christians don't realize how encouraging their presence is on a Sunday. People might feel like I'm not doing anything, I'm just here. I don't think people even understand me being in this room is probably an encouragement to someone. Them seeing me here, me saying hello, I think we really miss that sometimes. The importance of corporate seeking And then I think the importance of individual seeking. What are the habits and disciplines and routines in how I seek the Lord personally and privately? That's going to cultivate this courage that comes only from the Lord in my relationship with him.
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Speaker 3: If you will, holding to your gym analogy, these are the reps, right? These are the things we make practical habits of, and hopefully they become a routine that helps us shape our spiritual outlook.
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Speaker 8: And before we even jumped on the radio today, we were talking a little off the phone about Kobe and Jordan. And one of the things that set Kobe Bryant apart was he would get a workout in before anyone else. He was famous for forehand workouts where he would go and he'd shoot around. He just felt like... hey, by me putting this time in, I'm putting time in that no one else is, and I'm going to make sure to get some extra reps every day over my competition. And, hey, that's cool with basketball, but it's far more powerful if we find to go, how do I get a little extra time with the Lord each day, even if it means setting my alarm 15 minutes earlier? I'm just going to get in his word. I'm going to get some time in prayer. I might bring a journal with me and write some thoughts on. But I want to put in the work because in the day of trouble. Just like Kobe knew in the big moment, in the big game, I put the time in, in the day of trouble, by the grace of God, I'll put some time in and the fruit's going to come out. That's the seeking piece.
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Speaker 3: And he goes into verse 10 and 11 with even kind of an ultimatum, like, Even if my father and mother forsake me, the Lord, you'll receive me. Teach me your way. Lead me in a straight path because of my oppressors. Do not turn me over to the desire of my foes for false witnesses rise up against me, spouting malicious accusations. We've all had those moments in our lives, I'm sure. But he's saying the seeking of God's face, especially in the times where it gets really hard, that's where you know god's presence the most yeah.
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Speaker 8: Yeah yeah and and this is this is gets us to the second thing and we're not just seeking but we want to be taught on god right like like james says we don't just want to hear god's word we actually want to do it you know um and and that that's really the teaching piece and this one comes about it what are my go-to verses in in these moments that I've forged into my heart and so
you know two I think of one for me is real simple God is my shield right and so if God's my shield that's a good shield and and I can walk pretty courageously into anything if God is my shield the other thing is It was just really freeing for me is, hey, it's appointed for man to die once and after that to face judgment. And the truth is, and this was big for me as a father because, you know, I used to think nothing bothered me. And, you know, and then I had kids and I realized I don't think I ever really cared about anyone else. I don't think I was fearless. I just don't think I cared about anything. And then I did care about something and I cared that they lived and I felt a real responsibility to make sure they lived. And part of that was good and part of that was fear because the truth is at the end of the day, yes, I'm to love my children. I'm to pray for them, share the gospel with them, try to give them truth and good example. I don't ultimately keep them alive. That at the end of the day, that's God's role. And some of my fear early in my parenting crept in because I was trying to do something that was God's job. And I think anytime, you know, it's interesting to trace our anxieties because we might find idolatry behind them or we might find we're putting ourselves in the place of God thinking we're responsible for something he's only responsible for. And, uh, that was really a freeing thing for me to realize. And that's where just the value as we seek him, we go teach me, God, teach me your truths so that cause you call us to be fear, you know, not fear. So what's the truth I need to get into my heart so I don't fear? And that was a huge one for me.
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Speaker 3: I think this is important, friends, that we seek him and that we ask him to teach us more about who he is and more about how that all works out. Real quickly, Ryan, you're teaching this weekend. If people come to Emergence, what will they hear and what time should they be there and where are they located at?
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Speaker 8: Sure. I mean, we're still in our study. in Psalms. We're in Psalm 51, kind of on the back end of the moments of life where we blow it because we all do, you know, and, and the grace of God is there. That's what we're going to talk about this weekend. And, uh, We have a whole bunch of service times, but at our central campus, we've got Thursday night at 7, and then we've got Sunday mornings, 8, 45, 10, 15, and 11, 45 in total. So that's where we are.
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Speaker 3: And if you want to know more, friends, it's emergence.church. And I know that if you showed up, I know that Ryan would love to say hi to you if you came by and shook his hand after. So please avail yourself of that. Brian, thank you. Looking forward to our continued discussion these next couple of days. Appreciate you being here.
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Speaker 7: You got it.
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Speaker 3: Kevin McCullough, come right back. We've got a lot to get to. It's a Wednesday, and we'll touch on a little bit of wellness in an.
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Speaker 2: Hour or two, so I hope you stick around. Stick around for more of That Kevin, next.
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Speaker 10: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, Kevin McCullough. The phone number I want you to memorize is 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010. You may have heard me give that phone number a time or two because over the last 10 years, we've used that phone number as kind of a secret code. to help slaves be liberated, to help captives be set free with a group called Christian Solidarity International. And because of our efforts, you just have to know, there's like 3,800 women and children that have been set free and slaves that have been liberated over the last 10 years or so, according to the records at Christian Solidarity International. Just those of you that have done it with us, that's how many human lives we've actually saved. set free. And that encourages me, friends. And the reason I love doing it right now is because what could be a better Christmas present for the end of the year than to tell a woman who has lived her entire life in abject slavery that you're going to have freedom? Todd Chapman is back with us from Christian Solidarity International. And Todd, I think it's hard for us to relate because I've never really suffered anything like that. I don't have the first clue how desperate, how painful, how awful these slaves have been treated because i've never my worst experiences on planet earth you know all of them my entire life added up probably wouldn't match like one hour of what they experienced in slavery and they've done it for dozens of years in some cases yeah but to know that as dark as that is that our gift can bring them into a place that is full of hope and light and joy and wonder this christmas season that gets me pretty excited.
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Speaker 5: Yeah it is pretty awesome to I think it's hard for us in general here in America to wrap our minds around. I mean, we kind of get it intellectually, but I mean, on a, on a very visceral, emotional, uh, level to wrap our minds around the fact that, uh, today in 2026, there are actually more slaves on planet earth, more people enslaved than at any other time in human history. Like for us, because we're so sheltered and we don't really see that, you know, um, You know, I think if you really think about that for a second, it's pretty staggering. And I don't know, for me as a follower of Christ, it really does. I'm very convicted, as I believe we all should be. You know, far be it for me to impose my worldview on you. But I think, you know, if we do look at the Word of God and we recognize that, man, God came. Jesus said it, I have come to set captives free, to declare freedom for the prisoners. And we are called to do that. So from a ministry standpoint, man, we are in the optimal time to make a huge difference globally and individually just by setting captives free.
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I get it. It's overwhelming. It's like, well, I wouldn't know where to begin. That's why what we're inviting you to do through.
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Speaker 5: CSI is so powerful, because we're telling you exactly what you can do, who it's going to free and how much it costs. And it's not that much money. Two hundred fifty dollars. And you will set a person like a juke. I'm looking at her story here. She was three years old when armed men stormed into her village. They dragged she and her mom north into slavery. She said she, I still remember, she still remembers that her grandmother was there at the time. And she's like desperately trying to cling to them as the men are dragging them away. You can just see it in your mind, right? This Horrific picture of violence and separation. But the abductors beat her grandmother to the ground, left her to die because she was too old to be useful is what they said. So now in the north, they tore a juke away from her mom. She never saw her mom again. So now this young girl, three years of age, she's lost her grandmother, beaten right before her eyes. She's taken to a strange place with her mom, but then they take her mom away from her. And then it's just game on from there, from early childhood all the way into adulthood. She was forced to work from sunrise to late into the night, hauling water, grinding grain, tending animals, tough physical work. And if she slowed down, she was beaten with sticks or with fists. And then as she got older, it gets even worse, if you can imagine that. Her master began raping her. She became pregnant twice. And when she finally fled, She had to make an unbearable choice to leave one of her children behind in the hands of her abuser. Thankfully, one of our slave retrievers found her in a market, followed her home, negotiated her rescue with that cow vaccine, but was not able to get both of her children out. So a Jew, as you can imagine, even though she's safe today, she is just praying that somehow God will deliver her remaining child, you know, and reunite them.
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Speaker 2: That's just one story.
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Speaker 3: The goal is to get them back with family if there's any family surviving from the attacks. A lot of times that is not the case. So a lot of times what happens is through the local churches, they have these communities of former slaves that kind of live together as a family themselves. And imagine the comfort and support that that is. to know that the people that you're now worshiping Jesus with, which you were not allowed to do the entire time you were in slavery, have all been through similar abusive situations as to what you have. And so now you have this community of support and encouragement and sisterhood in a way that you only ever dreamed or wondered if it was even possible when you were in captivity. Not to mention Jesus. The idea of having a friend or friendships. You know, Todd, we take those things for granted.
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Speaker 8: Oh, we do.
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3: And we throw friends away faster than we sometimes throw fast food wrappers away. Like we just, oh, they're my friend. But these are women that form bonds over shared experiences and suffering. But now they get to live in the joy of Jesus. And friend, your gift makes that happen. It is the light switch that turns their life from a dark room into a bright light. And you get to be part of that.
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Speaker 3: $ 250 rescues one slave. We have a list of 232 names that we are aiming to liberate by Christmas, but we need your help right now. And if you can do a large gift, $ 2, 500, you're going to help set 10 women free today.
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Speaker 8: 888-342-1010. 888-342-1010.
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Speaker 3: Please call.
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Speaker 11: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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Speaker 8: Welcome back.
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Speaker 3: Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us. 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010. Friends, I don't want there to be much time that goes by for us to get all 232 slaves liberated. Kevin, what are you talking about? 232 slaves. Yeah, that's the number of names that we have at Christian Solidarity International this year of slaves that have been found, discovered, We know for a fact that they are slaves. We know for a fact that their slave master has, um, entered into a, at least a discussion with our Arab retrievers that are trying to help these slaves go free. And those are the ones that we have the potential to liberate this year, right now, before the end of the year. And if you can imagine it, maybe give these people, these, these women who have been in captivity for dozens of years each, um, maybe give them a Christmas where they not only get to go free, but maybe have the best Christmas presents ever in something called a bag of hope. We'll tell you all about it. Todd Chapman is back with me from Christian Solidarity International. And Todd, the tendency is to think with slavery, well, we emphasize the harsh things, right? Because that's why slavery is so immoral. Like if slavery were simply just living in someone's house and being fed bonbons and having all the advantages of just being there, but there was no negative treatment, you might still wish you had autonomy, but you wouldn't be afraid for your life. So we focus on all the abuse, the rape, the sexual assault, the verbal, the physical, the beatings, everything that they go through. But I think that sells us short on just what a good thing your gift does when a slave is liberated. Because as dark as that is, as horrific and as terrible and as depressing and as probably hopeless as that seems, when you set a slave free with CSI, their life becomes the opposite. So if they've been in darkness, they're now in light, the light of hope, the light of joy, the light of gratitude, the light of peace, the light of being able to live their life and make their own decisions and not be beholding to a slave master who has the ability to kind of thumbs up or thumbs down whether or not they get to live or eat that day. And that's what I want people to understand. Your gift is not just making a statement about something that's dark and terrible. which we want to, we want to condemn slavery with every ounce within our being, but we want you to know more so about the joy, the peace, the gratitude that comes from that, because your gift is what makes that possible. It's the light switch between living in the dark of slavery and living in the light of being free and worshiping Jesus openly as they do. And Todd CSI does it better than anyone else, but that's, that's what I want people to take away. I want them to get involved, not because we're just doing something to stop evil, but because of all the good that it produces.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 5: And also, but I think it's, you know, a big part of the motivation for us as followers of Christ is that, you know, the reason why, I mean, very clear in the Bible, it is for freedom that Christ himself came, right?
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Speaker 2: I mean, that.
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Speaker 5: Slavery or bondage of any type basically flies, it goes against the very essence of God's creation. That's why this is such a powerful concept, right? Because God created us all. We are created in his image. But even though God created us, he doesn't demand that we, you know, serve him. He actually gives us free will. He gives us agency. And that's how much God loves us. And so when any human being is enslaved and that agency is removed from them and their dignity is diminished, that's abhorrence to our father. And God's very clear. He says, no, this is, I.
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Speaker 2: Am against this.
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Speaker 5: And so he calls us, his followers, his children to be against it as well. But I think, You know, that needs to extend to more than just being against it in our minds and in our words.
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Speaker 2: We need to be against it in our actions.
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Speaker 5: And so that's why I get pumped up about this opportunity to bring this to you every year, because every year we find even more people that are like, I had no idea this is so wrong and I want to do something about it. And so, you know, people jump in and every year through that Kevin show and a couple other platforms that we've got, We're able to see 2,000, 3,000 slaves rescued every year, and we're hoping and praying that happens again this year.
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Speaker 3: I've honestly never told anyone about the cause of CSI and the Sudanese slaves that they have not responded in a way that says, I want to do everything that I can to stop that. Which I think is great because you don't have to understand anything worse than that you get to mitigate suffering and bring joy into their life in a way that nothing else will do. Um, and by the way, friends, I know that there are those of you that a $ 25 gift for 10 months would be a huge sacrifice that,
that times are tough and a one-time two 50, or maybe splitting it to one 25 over two months, something like that to liberate a slave. I know that that's a sacrifice. And I want to say thank you to those of you that make that sacrifice and give, I know that there's a lot of you that are kind of in the situation that McCullough's are in. We don't, have a lot of extra money laying around, but if we make some adjustments in our priorities and we do some things differently and we prioritize what Jesus prioritizes, we can liberate a slave, sometimes more than one in a given year. Sometimes God's blessed us to the degree where we've been able to give 12 slaves their freedom in one year's time. I'm not asking you to do what we do exactly, but I am asking you to examine your heart. to say, what could I do? I also want to talk to those of you that have been extraordinarily blessed by God, because that blessing comes with purpose. And if you are looking for a means to which you can give significant purpose to the wealth or to the abundance that God has blessed you with, consider a gift of $ 2, 500 and help 10 find liberation. Consider a gift of $ 25, 000 and help 100 slaves be free. We have room for you to be able to do that. And so we would love for you to examine your heart and say, what can be done? And I know that my audience thinks this way. Just last month, we had someone say, how far would a $ 100, 000 gift go to give Bibles to people at one? That's a generous heart. That's a God-centered heart. And he was on his way to the airport last minute going, huh, I got to get out of town. What do I call? Where do I go? Gave the gift. We're grateful for it. Friends, I think that there are people being called right now to do something similar in a fashion that would liberate human lives and thus give two seasons of joy to these women in the moment that they're living in now and for all of eternity to be able to return to the roots of their faith, worship with fellow believers, and rejoice in what God has done for them.
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Speaker 10: It's that Kevin Mack Show.
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Speaker 3: So glad you're with us, and so glad to be with you, and so glad that I had my Z-Stack last night. You keep late hours, you get less rest, your immune system has a chance to kind of knuckle under in those circumstances. And I was listening to my friend Larry Elder complete his cycle on the Salem News Channel. I was watching the Salem News Channel. And I kept seeing the smiling face of Dr. Zev Zelenko. And I missed this man. He was such a good man, a kind man, a man that wanted so much to help bring the cure for COVID to people that were really, really sick. And back in 2020, that narrative that the media was
putting out was iron-fisted. It was absolute. Nobody was allowed to say anything that went against the grain. And yet Dr. Zelenko did, and he saved thousands of lives. At the center of the controversy was his Z-Stack and Zelenko protocol. Z-Stack is just a combination of vitamin C, vitamin D, and a type of zinc that gets into your cells and actually helps your body fight all of those congestive issues, helps get rid of the phlegm and the congestion. And it helped COVID patients overcome the congestion and the breathing irritabilities that they had in ways that Nobody else could explain. Well, it was simple. It was science, and he used science to solve the problem. If you want to boost your wellness this cold and flu season, I need you to get started for $ 4. 95 plus shipping and handling. When you get the sniffles, take that Z-Stack. They've got incredible, by the way, chewable varieties. My kids, they kind of started battling the sniffles a couple of days ago, and I've got them on the Pineapple Kids Z-Stack. And they felt better within 24 hours. They were already doing better. So get the Z stack for yourself, for your family. In the memory of the late Dr. Zev Zelenko, who did everything he could to save as many lives. And I didn't, a lot of people didn't realize this at the time either, but he was, he was actually battling terminal cancer while he was doing all of that and helping people be saved in that process. So really just an incredible man. ZStackLife.com slash Kevin. ZStackLife.com slash Kevin. ZStackLife.com slash Kevin for your lowest price. $ 4. 95 shipping and handling and get started today. Visit and discover ZStack for yourself. Portions of today's show sponsored by ZStack. Yeah, and the other thing I want you to know about is this incredible movie that's coming to theaters this weekend. I want to tell you about Drummer Boy from Angel Studios. Drummer Boy hits theaters this weekend, and if you enjoyed a movie like The Greatest Showman, this is kind of up your alley. It's a big, uplifting musical. It's got a very emotional story. There's incredible performances, original music for king and country, and it's the kind of movie that really deserves the theater experience. The music, the energy, the emotion, all of it. It's set in the Revolutionary War era. It is a great holiday film. It is all about forgiveness and helping people kind of reunite. I think you will be blown away. at what a powerful movie viewing experience it is. For tickets and details, visit 4kingandcountry. com, 4kingandcountry. com, portions of that Kevin show sponsored by Drummer Boy. So go see that this weekend. I really hope it has a huge weekend because I would love to see this this movie really presented to the mainstream in a day where divisiveness is so rampant and we saw it more than anything in the election. It would be really, really nice if you had a broken relationship that some reconciliation and some forgiveness and some being brought back together was able to come about. And I think that was the intention of the small bone brothers when they made this movie. And by the way, they will be with us on tomorrow's show to give us a sneak preview. Joel will be with us and Luke will be with us. And it should be a fascinating conversation. I hope you'll join us for that as Four King and Country will say hi to us here on That Kevin Show. Kevin McCullough coming back from New York.
00:40:37
Speaker 7: Stay tuned. We'll be right back.
00:40:44
Speaker 2: We don't have that, so we have That Kevin Show.
00:41:13
Speaker 1: Featuring the music of Dick Tunney and the Dream in Color Orchestra. Straight ahead, everything you need to know about the top headlines of the day and a perspective that will give you some eternity to it, plus practical tips for family life, spiritual life, and good old regular life. It's Kevin McCullough, Monday through Friday, on That Kevin Show. And now, from the Connors & Sullivan Broadcast Studios, the man who is not what he wants to be, but is way grateful that he's not who he used to be, here's.
00:42:13
Speaker 7: All right.
00:42:14
Speaker 3: Welcome in Kevin McCullough. Glad you're glad you're with us. Our number two off and running. And, uh, you know that we, we, we love in, um, different days of the week to look at different, uh, themes. And today we're going to do something really special in this hour. Um, this is the day that we take a look at wellness and we have Dr. Uh, Malone and Dr. Tapper with us today. They are the, um, They are the originators of the Z-Stack reformulated formula that you've been hearing me talk about in honor of Dr. Zev Zelenko. He came up with the original Z-Stack, and that formula has been reformulated and now available commercially to those of you that would like to boost your immune system and fight off the cold and flu season better. in the strongest way possible. It was a very powerful formula that did a great amount of good during the COVID crisis. And in fact, so good, it did so much good that he had to be deplatformed and told to sit down and shut up because everybody in big institutional health wanted to talk vaccines, vaccines, vaccines. But he was trying to get people well. So if you have not yet tried it, $ 4. 95 is what it costs to get started. ZStackLife.com slash Kevin. You're going to hear a lot about that this hour. And I also want to say that if you don't have plans for the weekend, a great movie to go see this weekend would be the new Drummer Boy movie. It's a Christmas, it's a holiday contextualized story in the Revolutionary War period. It's historical fiction, but it's really well done. I got to see an advanced copy of it last week, as did my movie critic middle child, who had very good things to say about it. It's kind of done in the style of The Greatest Showman. There's a lot of music to it, and it's really well done. Sets, costumes, dialogue, everything. I just think it's a really nice way to kick off your holiday
entertainment. And why not kick off some entertainment this weekend when you have the likes of people like these folks coming to Washington next year? Let me just profile some of these socialists that got elected yesterday. Daryliza Avila Chevalier. will be the next congressional representative for New York 13. Born in Florida, she moved to New York to attend Columbia University and got her undergraduate. She put on Twitter during the campaign, I forgot to get napkins, so I just wiped my hand on the American flag sitting behind me.
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Speaker 8: Nice.
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Speaker 3: She notably withheld support from Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries to be the next Speaker of the House, telling Vanity Fair she would need certain commitments before she would. So there you go, Speaker. These are the people you get to work with. Claire Valdez, also in New York. She will be taking over, what seat is it? The 7th District. And she touts herself as a dual citizen of Slater del Sur Pueblo nation and the United States. Uh, she has not confirmed whether she will support speaker Jeffries. Um, now you've got Donovan McKinney in Michigan. He was a socialist that ran and in the 13th district there. And, um, He's backed by Rashida Tlaib and others, but he said in an interview that his biggest policy goals include Medicare for all, universal child care, and getting corporate money out of elections. Because he didn't take a dime from George Soros. Israel had been his defining issue, and he obviously doesn't want us involved there. These are some real interesting people. Milat Kiros. A DSA member won Colorado's first congressional district. She's drawn controversy for her fierce anti-Israel stance, which she includes calling October 7th inevitable because of the Jewish country's own actions. She's also opposed its existence as a Jewish state. So now we have literal crazy people going to Congress that say we shouldn't even acknowledge them as a nation. Pennsylvania, Chris Robb is going there. He took aim at establishment Democrats as he was campaigning in August saying, I think listening to folks who have been institutionalists and corporate Dems is probably the wrong thing to do when what your own poll shows is that there's an exhaustion. He wants to immediately dismantle the military cease all imperialist foreign policy and end all us led efforts for regime change. So he doesn't, he, well, I don't, where are we trying to change a regime? Can you, can you explain that to me? No, in Iran, we're trying to kill the mullahs that have threatened to kill us, but we're not going to tell the Iranians who, who they put in charge. That's not regime change. Regime change is what we did in Afghanistan, where we instituted the elections and got everybody voting, and that didn't work out so well. I'm not a fan of regime change either, but he's saying we're going to end it. I didn't know we were doing it. Oh, and there's this story that was on the cover of FoxNews.com this morning, and
it's Abdul Al-Sayed talking about what great delight he's going to relish forcing the vice president JD Vance to swear him into the Senate. These, there is a nastiness about this group of, of socialists that is, that is really off putting. And look, I, I don't, the, the, the thing I've been most critical of Trump over the years has been his degree of lack of people skills. These people, they, they, they would knife you in the back. This is how they are mean. And I, I sense that there's going to be some problems there. It's going to be interesting because when you, when you remove God from your worldview and socialism does. you can't be a socialist and be a God fearing person. God doesn't believe in socialism. God is, God is very, um, in terms of, uh, sowing and reaping. He's very meritorious on that. If you don't sow, you won't reap. If you don't work, you won't eat. These are all things that are in scripture. It's not a mystery. There's no question. Was Jesus a communist?
00:49:46
Speaker 8: No.
00:49:48
Speaker 3: Jesus believed that you should provide for your family. And as a man who does that for mine, I understand that. I get that. But these people are coming to Washington with zero confidence. morality to their worldview. It is all about power. Cold-blooded, knife you in the back, disdain that they have for the average person.
00:50:22
Speaker 8: Watch.
00:50:23
Speaker 3: Mark my words. You will see it before you know it. Kevin McCullough, it is Wednesday. We're going to shift gears, get out of the news for a while, talk about health, because I think that's important.
00:50:35
Speaker 2: Stay with us.
00:50:54
Speaker 10: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
00:51:01
Speaker 3: Very glad to have you with us, Kevin McCullough. You know that we frequently on this show talk about wellness issues, wellness-related issues. And this started all the way back even really before the COVID pandemic hit. But once COVID came, we ramped that up considerably. And I am very pleased, as you have heard me mention over the last number of weeks, that to have reconnected with the kind of living legacy of Dr. Zev Zelenko.
00:51:30
Speaker 8: Dr.
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Speaker 3: Zelenko was one of the first doctors that we had on the air once the pandemic broke out. And what he told us was revolutionary compared to what a lot of the other doctors that came on the show had to say. And it was because of him and a handful of other people like Marty McCary and a few others that I really started to understand that what big institutions were telling the American people were not anywhere near what actual data and facts were telling medical minds, true scientists, people that really did want to find a solution. And that brings us to where we are today. You've heard me talking about a great little product called Z-Stack. It is vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc. It's got some other stuff in there that as you go into the cold and flu season is just going to boost your immunity. You can get started right now for $ 4. 95 with free shipping and handling. Just go to ZStackLife.com backslash Kevin and read all about it. ZStackLife.com slash Kevin. But my two guests, I'm very pleased to introduce to you.
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Speaker 1: Joining me, Dr.
00:52:32
Speaker 3: Robert Malone, who was actually with us during the COVID era. He was one of those physicians that we had on. A physician scientist. He contributed early on to the mRNA technology. We'll ask him about that in a minute.
00:52:43
Speaker 8: And then.
00:52:44
Speaker 3: We are also glad to have Dr. Ben Tapper, who's with us as well, who's like me, been banned from social media at one point in time. And Ben, it's good to have you. Robert, it's good to have you back. It's been a while since you were with us, but I appreciate you coming back. You're both involved in the Z-Stack that I've been talking about, and I want to get to some of the solutions that it provides for our health, specifically in the boosting of the immunity. But since this is all kind of rooted in the legacy of Dr. Zelenko, who's no longer with us, he passed because of cancer, sadly.
00:53:17
Speaker 1: But Dr.
00:53:18
Speaker 3: Malone, you know pretty well what a, well, how he ended up, number one, being called a conspiracy nutjob, and he ended up being right just about everything. And as someone who worked on the mRNA technology before it really was thrust into the limelight of things, looking back, just as a general position of where you are. What did you learn from the COVID era? What do you think we've learned as a country from that era? What do we yet need to learn?
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Speaker 6: Well, number one, what we can see in retrospect is the fingerprints of a global propaganda campaign that was quite profound with its attempts to control narrative. And as part of those attempts, anything voices which were judged as a threat in some way to the approved narrative, which was largely driven around the idea that this was a naturally occurring outbreak. It was not a laboratory engineered virus. We now, I think there's fairly broad consensus otherwise now, and that the only solution is was development and implementation of a vaccine, particularly vaccines that employed gene therapy technology, adenovirus vectored vaccines, and mRNA vaccines. So these were basically gene therapy technology applied to vaccination. And that was the enforced narrative, was number one, this is naturally occurring. It had nothing to do with NIH or scientists or anyone else. or the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And number two, that the only way out of this was a combination of various social isolation policies, school closures, lockdowns, social distancing, use of masks, and eventually the implementation of a vaccine product. That was what was allowed. And what we now see in retrospect is is another example of a long history of weaponization of fear, fear of death, fear in many ways that's promoted of extinction, of the
threat to the human species as well as threats to individuals. And this is one of the most powerful motivators for people. is the fear of death. And it was exploited in this case and in a number of other cases. We hear it being exploited in the present. Of course, we recently had this Russian plague scare that was actively promoted. We had hantavirus. And we also have two other narratives that both play on this same kind of fear. One is human-caused climate change. And the other one is the threat of human-enabled artificial intelligence or superintelligence creating an extinction event. This is more examples of the weaponization of fear. But now with the hindsight of what we experienced during COVID, many of us are able to see this very clearly and see the fingerprints of how this is implemented. And Zev Zelenko, bless his heart, It's useful to remember that Zev had his diagnosis of terminal cancer before any of this went down. He knew that he was going to die and yet had the courage to speak out against this narrative and to promote a therapeutic strategy, really a preventative strategy, alternative to vaccines that that was based on research that, among others, Ralph Baric had actually published as a potential prevention of coronavirus disease. So Zev was willing and able, despite his terminal diagnosis, to risk everything to try to reach people like yourself and your audience and let them know that they had an alternative.
00:57:41
Speaker 3: And his patients, who he had a remarkable survival rate for the people that he treated.
00:57:47
Speaker 8: Dr.
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Speaker 3: Ben Tapper, I want to ask you about this next. What Dr. Malone just laid out really was the public narrative to its core. And what ended up playing out historically is that you had one Dr. Anthony Fauci, who ended up after COVID being 30 something million dollars wealthier from his earnings off of vaccines and what had ended up going down by way of all of the control of that narrative versus people like Bobby Kennedy, Marty McCary, Zev Zelenko that had had the courage to speak up, yourself included. Almost everything was proven correct by the people that were asking the questions. And to Dr. Malone's point, if we are to have another outbreak of something, Talk to me about your perspective looking back now on what we went through.
00:58:38
Speaker 4: Well, first off, we are in a free country, and we should value the freedom of speech. And what we learned during COVID is that freedom of speech was sanctioned.
00:58:49
Speaker 9: It was hindered. Our voices were suppressed.
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Speaker 4: George Martin said, when you cut a man's tongue, you don't prove him a liar, but you are fearful of what he has to say. My social media at one time, we were hitting three to four million people a month, and then they wiped all my accounts clean. they were afraid of alternative voices. And what did we learn during COVID, during the pandemic period? You know, we had the emergency use authorization that was put into place, and basically they could not show any therapeutics outside of that working because if they did, it would take away from the vaccine. You know, in my opinion, they pushed that, and they did that to get the vaccine on the childhood schedule. And that was the main reason for that. And so but during COVID, you know, people did lose trust in the system. You know, they overplayed their hand. And this is a tyrannical, you know, basically an agenda that was pushed on the people.
00:59:42
Speaker 9: Make no mistake.
00:59:43
Speaker 4: But the thing that concerns me is the World Health Organization's pandemic treaty. They're trying to ramp that up in other countries now to get it back up, to get momentum behind it. And if that were to be passed prior to COVID, people like myself, Dr.
00:59:54
Speaker 9: Malone, we'd all be in jail.
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Speaker 4: Because in that pandemic treaty, there's verbiage in there that says they'd have any authoritative means necessary to silence those who are deemed disinformation. Well, I was labeled one of the disinformation dozen. So that means my radar was going off when I saw this pandemic treaty coming our way. So they would suppress those who have alternative voices. They don't like people speaking out. And I believe there's a saying out there by Thomas Jefferson, if the people let the government decide what foods they eat, what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in a sorry state as those souls who live in their tyranny. There is a health tip out there. Do not take health advice from the government or Bill Gates for that matter. Run.
01:00:32
Speaker 9: They say run.
01:00:34
Speaker 8: Right.
01:00:34
Speaker 4: You know, our health, our level of health really starts with the choices that we make. And our body's ability to overcome diseases like corona or the hantavirus is far greater than our government has permitted us to believe. As long as we give the body what it needs, we can be well. And that's been my mission since day one, just to bring truth to health care, not push fear. I was taught that fear is the fire that fuels the furnace of disease.
01:00:59
Speaker 9: As long as we give the body what it needs, we can be well.
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Speaker 3: Okay, hold that thought. I want both of you to come back with me, but I've got to take a quick break. Again, if you have not yet tried ZStack, and I was a believer in it before it was a product that was accessible to me. I love Dr. Zelenko and what he stood for. Just go to ZStackLife.com and try it yourself. Only $ 4. 95. Shipping and handling might be added to that, but you're going to get started on a really good program. ZStackLife.com. ZStackLife.com slash Kevin.
01:01:32
Speaker 7: Don't go away.
01:01:33
Speaker 2: Stick around for more of That Kevin next.
01:01:40
Speaker 7: Here he is from New York.
01:01:57
Speaker 10: That Kevin.
01:01:59
Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough.
01:02:02
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Times
Square. Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us. You know, we talk about wellness and things related to your health on a regular basis, and I'm grateful to have Dr. Robert Malone and Dr. Ben Tapper joining me. They are the brains, the brawn, and the push behind ZStack and ZStackLife.com slash Kevin for you to try it and to get started. We're going to talk about the kind of wonder that this little supplement is in just a second, but I want to stay on what we kind of started out with. And Dr. Malone, I want to come back to you. It seemed to me, and because I had so many different medical voices on my show, I really kind of charted this in my own ability to watch it happen in real time. It seemed to me that at the beginning of the pandemic, the American people kind of gave the big medical institutions their trust. And they said, okay, we've never gone through anything like this before in our lifetime. We're dependent upon the smart people to kind of give us the good guidance and to take us in the right direction. Looking back, knowing what we know about Fauci, knowing about how he lied, knowing about the fact that he probably wrote the check that probably underwrote the work that ended up making this virus leave the lab, How should the government respond and what should it be doing the next go around? Because I've talked to people and former CDC director was with me just a couple of weeks ago and he said he does expect there to be another pandemic, a bigger one.
01:03:37
Speaker 9: Are you talking about Bob Redfield?
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Speaker 3: Yes, Dr. Redfield. And he's very worried that we're going to be caught flat footed in terms of looking what we need to see. And of course, the lack of trust that's going to be there for the people to be able to respond. How do you view all that?
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Speaker 6: So that's a really complex landscape you just charted out. And it touches on the core issue of the damage of public trust that has transpired, where you had a public that was bought in to what had effectively become a form of priesthood. And we've talked about scientism. Many people have about Dr. Fauci in this metaphor of scientism as a religion serving as the high priest. He's now been deposed. There's kind of a ongoing.
01:04:30
Speaker 3: He needs to be in jail as far as a lot of us are concerned. But yes, he's been removed from his government post.
01:04:37
Speaker 7: Yes.
01:04:38
Speaker 6: And there's merit to that. He apparently lobbied for the pardon. So he personally lobbied the White House for the pardon that prevented his the ability to act to take that action that you propose. And and I think there's certainly merit to that. But what what happened was that as as a society, we'd become very invested in the idea of science as an objective adjudicator of truth. And we're now in a position where that thesis doesn't hold water anymore for many, many people. And now we're left adrift, using the water metaphor. We're left adrift on a lifeboat wondering how do we chart our way forward? Should we encounter another storm? Not to get too deep into this. And I think that that is the paradox. How can... trust in the public health enterprise be rebuilt when you still have a large fraction of that enterprise dug in in denying the obvious and also doing everything it can to prevent any accountability or disclosure of actual information about what transpired and I think that that's what Bob is touching on is a Is it likely that there will be another significant infectious disease outbreak? Actually, I break with him on that. A case can be made. The only thing even remotely analogous was the Spanish flu outbreak after World War I. And that turns out to be a lot more complex than the narrative we've been given. So this is actually a very rare event. to have a global event like this. And the reason why it occurred is because this was an engineered virus. The other day, I heard Eric Weinstein speaking about this, and he made the point that basically four amino acids, which is what the engineered cleavage site was, resulted in a worldwide public health catastrophe. And it's a case to be made from that that biotechnology, and in his case, he's arguing for AI, now has the power to create a major disruption in the course and tide of human events. And that is the real threat, not emergence of some natural infection that exists in the jungles of Brazil. It's the tinkering of scientists associated with gain of function research that represents the clear and present danger. And that is a question of how do we create boundaries on this kind of activity. And that, I believe, is what we really ought to focus on. But there's a whole cloud of disinformation, frankly, around obscuring that so that we can't address that fundamental issue of whether the science community has the right to tinker with with pathogens that represent a potential major human health threat.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we've got to take another break real quickly, but I just want to say, when I come back, Dr. Tapper, I want to ask about something that Dr. Malone said early in his answer there. Because is it science's fault, or is it the dogmatism around how science is interpreted? that ended up being the real victim. And we're still vulnerable to that, even if you have interim good people that serve in some of those areas and then at times lesser motivated people. We'll pick that conversation up on the other side.
01:08:35
Speaker 7: Of this break.
01:08:35
Speaker 8: Stay with us.
01:08:54
Speaker 2: Here he is from New York.
01:08:57
Speaker 7: That Kevin.
01:08:58
Speaker 3: Kevin.
01:09:00
Speaker 2: McCullough.
01:09:01
Speaker 3: Grateful to have you with us. We're talking about a pretty heady and slightly historical issue of COVID and what happened around its breakout and response and everything else. If you've listened to my show for any length of time, you know that I've argued all along that therapeutics should have been
where our focus was, not on vaccines. and I was proven correct like so many other people were, but we needed to help the people that did get sick and not insist upon some vaccine fixing herd immunity. Dr. Ben Tapper is back with us.
01:09:35
Speaker 11: Dr.
01:09:35
Speaker 3: Robert Malone is with us. They are the founders of Z-Stack, by the way, Z-Stack formula, zstacklife.com slash Kevin. You can get a bottle to help boost your immune system right now for $ 4.
01:09:46
Speaker 8: 95.
01:09:46
Speaker 3: This is the formula that Dr. Zev Zelenko invented. became famous for post-COVID. And I think that one of the things that you will find that you need is a little vitamin D, a little C in your life, a little zinc. You have deficiencies on helping your body fight, especially during the cold and cold weather season. This is the perfect complement to what you're doing. And I'm taking it myself. I never ask you to do anything I don't do myself. Dr. Tapper, in the last segment, Dr. Malone referred to scientism and kind of how science has become Like, well, you can't argue with that because science. And it's always leveled like a sledgehammer, right? It's like on the climate, science says, on COVID, you have to do what we say because science says. And I certainly saw that the longer that COVID went on because Dr. Fauci was going vaccine, Dr. Zelenko, Dr. McCary, Dr. Redfield, Dr. Malone. A lot of these people were saying, well, wait a second.
01:10:45
Speaker 8: Hold on.
01:10:46
Speaker 3: That doesn't add up. And it was actually the people that continued to ask the questions. In other words, being scientists that were there were ended up proven, right?
01:10:54
Speaker 8: Right.
01:10:54
Speaker 4: I mean, we weren't allowed to have a dialogue on the topic and that tells you everything you need to know.
01:10:58
Speaker 9: Science is observational.
01:11:00
Speaker 3: I don't want to pass what you just said there without drawing attention to it. That was literally true. Governor Cuomo said to New Yorkers, you're not allowed to go to your primary care physician, go to the hospital or go to the pharmacy and and get a jab, but don't go to your primary care. And a lot of doctor's offices ended up closing during that time.
01:11:21
Speaker 8: Right.
01:11:22
Speaker 9: I mean, it's criminal what happened.
01:11:24
Speaker 4: I mean, we heard the bumper sticker slogan, I don't know how many times over and over and over that the science is settled. You know, don't ask questions, don't do your own research. And it's just criminal. I mean, they treated us like we don't have a brain that we can't think for ourselves.
01:11:38
Speaker 9: And that's the problem.
01:11:40
Speaker 4: So, you know, the science became a religion at that point. And, you know, we have to look at science as a tool. We learn through the lenses of observation. I teach my kids that the beauty of science is looking for God's fingerprints. We're looking, we're learning, we're observing. And
it's not this faith-based system. At that point, it becomes a religion. Just believe.
01:12:00
Speaker 9: I believe in science.
01:12:01
Speaker 4: And that's really kind of an oxymoron statement because it's, you know, science is a tool that we learn through lenses of observation.
01:12:09
Speaker 9: But again, they wanted to get you to stop.
01:12:12
Speaker 4: Asking questions because there was a lot of holes and flaws with this vaccine. And they were overplaying their hand at the time. But all it did, it was created a yearning for people to look further, to look into this. They overplayed their hand and the people saw right through it. And they knew that the tides were turning. And this is why I always say that the soil for true health right now is rich because the people, we have a real opportunity to really teach the masses what it means to be healthy.
01:12:37
Speaker 9: And we didn't see that during COVID.
01:12:38
Speaker 4: They were giving out free donuts, free beer, free marijuana to go get your vaccine.
01:12:42
Speaker 9: It's criminal. But we weren't talking.
01:12:45
Speaker 4: About moving well, eating well, thinking well, and understanding that we can be well as long as we give the body what it needs. And that's why I had so much conviction during this time to speak out because I understood that this was a fear-mongering, psychological, spiritual warfare being pushed on the people to coerce them to get the vaccine.
01:13:04
Speaker 9: And it was criminal.
01:13:06
Speaker 3: The stage is yours, Dr. Tapper. Tell us what's in it. Tell us why it's good for us to take and what it will help us do ultimately.
01:13:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we have to look at the big reason why we are sick. And I believe that 98% of all disease outside of, like most of epigenetic diseases are due to toxicity and deficiency. And so we have to understand, we have to move away from that toxicity and deficiency into purity and sufficiency.
01:13:32
Speaker 9: And we do that with good supplementation. And this formulation was very well thought out. It's put together.
01:13:37
Speaker 1: Dr.
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Speaker 4: Zelenka was a brilliant-minded doctor, physician, that he understood that the main reason we are sick during the so-called flu season was because of a zinc deficiency, vitamin D deficiency. And he understood that the solvent is very simple, but we have a zinc ionifer, the quercetin, which means that it takes that zinc and puts it back into the cell. If we don't have zinc, we are going to be sick and sick quite often. So if you want to avoid the sickness, the illness, the respiratory issues, then the Z-Stack will help you be sufficient to help the body really fight off a lot of these illnesses.
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Speaker 9: And it prevents the sickness.
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Speaker 4: I mean, Benjamin Franklin said an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We need to value our health now before we get sick. And that's why we recommend taking the Z-Stack daily.
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Speaker 3: Recommended dose is one tablet per day?
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Speaker 4: I believe the serving size on the bottle is two. I take one or two a day. I even give my kids the Z-Stack every day, every night before bed. It's kind of a routine. And it's just something that's part of our daily routine.
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Speaker 3: I'm a big believer in it. And friends, again, if you want to try it for yourself, $ 4. 95 plus shipping and handling, go to zstacklife.com slash Kevin. You got to put that slash and Kevin on it, or you're just going to go through the the, the whole website, get to the, get to the page where you got the special offer. Zstacklife.com, Zstack, Z-S-T-A-C-K, life.com, Zstacklife.com slash Kevin, $ 4. 95 plus shipping and handling to get started and, uh, know that you're going to be giving your body what it needs. It's interesting that, um, because I did have Dr. Zelenko and others that were on the show during COVID, my, my wife ended up getting COVID twice. Um, I did have a zinc formula that someone was helping me, uh, get access to that actually helped him, you know, her recover very quickly both times. And that coupled with vitamin D because I'd been talking to Dr. Z, he had been saying C, D and zinc are the, are the key components of what you want to get. But What I understand about his formula was that it did figure out zinc is harder to absorb. And so what you guys have done is you've made it simpler for the cells to absorb. And that's the secret to the Z-Stack. Is that correct?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the quercetin.
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Speaker 4: So basically, it acts like a vehicle to get the zinc into the cell, the zinc ionifer.
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Speaker 9: And most zinc supplements do not have that quercetin.
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Speaker 4: You need the quercetin to get the zinc activated into the cell.
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Speaker 3: Which means the other zinc supplements that don't have it, a lot of it just passes through your system, and you don't get the benefit from it. This actually gets into the cells, which helps it work.
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Speaker 8: Dr.
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Speaker 3: Malone, great to see you again.
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Speaker 8: Dr.
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Speaker 3: Tapper, wonderful to meet you. Please come back and talk to us again. Thank you for carrying on Dr. Zelenko's legacy, and we're just grateful that you're here.
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Speaker 9: Thank you, Kevin.
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Speaker 3: You got it. Kevin McCullough coming back from New York. Don't go away.
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Speaker 2: Stick around for more of That Kevin.
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Speaker 11: Next.
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Speaker 2: Serving it up with a no-drink minnow.
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Speaker 10: It's that Kevin Mac show.
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Speaker 3: All right, Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us. Final few thoughts for this period of time together, friends, about Christian Solidarity International and why it's so important. Look, I'm never going to apologize for asking you to give to great causes. I have told you that from the beginning. This is part of my expression
of gratitude back to God for the honor and the privilege and the humble sacrifice coolness that it is to get to do what I do for a living every day. And it wouldn't be possible had he not said, this is what I'm calling you to. But because of that, I want to use a portion of this platform every single day for his glory and to do things that advance his kingdom. And Todd Chapman is back with us from Christian Solidarity International. And Todd, as I have had the chance to not just advocate for CSI on the air over the years, but to get to know the organization and to see how it operates and to understand the biblical and efficiency with which they take their stewardship and the extreme care that is taken with every gift that is given and the integrity behind all of that. I have to say, not only are they doing incredible things, they're one of the best organizations I've ever had the chance to be part of. And that's why I continue to sing their praises long after we're not on the air anymore. Like this is one of my passion organizations that I really, really mean it when I say this, I believe that they are doing God's work in every aspect.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of feel like it's David against Goliath in a lot of ways. You know, we're not a big organization. Many people have never heard of us every time we do a radio campaign. And you may be hearing about CSI, Christian Solidarity International, for the very first time. But man, just because, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, God has just blessed us.
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Speaker 5: And that's because we're just committed to doing what he says in his word, which is to set captives free and inviting other people to do that. And so over the past, you know, 30 plus years over, get this friends, over and this is not me boasting on CSI, this is me boasting on God and boasting on our generous donors that have made this possible. Over 160,000 human beings freed from captivity, yes, but also the worst possible abuse that you could imagine. Verbal, physical, psychological, sexual. I mean, any form of abuse that a human being can endure, these slaves have been subjected to that. And also, and it's gone on for decades. And also children now have been born into that. And I'm really excited about that because if you free a mom right now, more than ever before, we've been able to negotiate not just the freedom of the mom, but the freedom of a child. So for $ 250... Man, you can liberate two human beings, one that has already endured decades of abuse, but one that if we don't get them free, we'll also suffer that. Yeah, we're preventing that. So it's so beautiful. I just wanted to real quickly give you a little encouragement. I'm looking at Isaiah 61.1. And what you're invited to do right now checks every box in this verse.
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Speaker 2: Check this out.
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Speaker 5: The Spirit of the Lord God is on me because the Lord has anointed me to bring good news to the afflicted, sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and freedom to prisoners. You can check four beautiful biblical opportunities right there with your gift right now. $ 250, you set a captive free, you equip them to step into a new life and freedom. And man, hands going up in heaven for every gift that you give, because that's another human being freed.
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Speaker 3: 888-342-1010 is the number where that takes place. 888-342-1010. And you may be saying, well, Kev, why wouldn't they liberate the kids if the moms are being liberated? Well, the slave master views that child who he impregnated the slave with is his property too.
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Speaker 8: Kind of theirs, yeah.
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Speaker 3: And so the idea that we're able to talk him out of a future generation of a slave, which if it's a young boy is a very valuable thing to his calculations, is a God thing. And it did not happen for many, many years that I was involved with CSI. It has begun happening over the last two to three years, and we couldn't be more excited about it because it saves every one of those kids from that horrific future themselves. 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010. If you want to know more, go to thatkevinshow.com, click the CSI banner at the top of the page. You can read further when you click through there. There's lots of information about what the program consists of. Just check it out and then be as generous as you can. 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010, or go to thatkevinshow.com, click the CSI banner, thatkevinshow.com.