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Speaker 1: The volume. Hey, what's up, y'l t Bob here reminded you they can come hang out with me and Aaron Murray live on AMP Monday through Thursday. AMP is a new live radio app. You just download it from the Apple Store. You can actually call in, text in chat with us directly during the show. It's a ton of fun. We're at Snaps right Snaps your favorite college football podcasts at Snaps Monday through Thursday one Eastern New Central on NAMP. Download it and come hang out with us today. Yo, what's going on y'all? The boys are back once again. It is day four, the final day here in Nashville, the final day for us here the wonderful Grand high E pooyee. You see the city in the background. It's been a lot of fun, Aaron, It's been a lot of fun. By the way, your dancing video now the jersey hit a million views. I how about that, myral Uh.
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Speaker 2: You shake it? I can shake it? Boys again.
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Speaker 1: I hope that we added in some evidence of Aaron and whether or not he can indeed shake it. Even though it looks like little Man's got your moves, dude, you do like a little steaky leg hants homilt take you leg in there. Uh so, look so right now we are, I mean we're getting ready to leave, Aaron, You're done, right.
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Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm ready to head back to Atlanta. Yeah, it's been a hell of a four days. It's four days too long. I'm i lock it along way.
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling a little I'm feeling a little like my energy levels were so elite, the vibes are so incredible. And then ever since our night out, I've been I've been kind of dragging ass a little bit.
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Speaker 2: I would say three days is good. You could knock down a day, just do three days, would they idea?
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Speaker 1: But but well, I will see this out. Nashville has been awesome, love the city. I would love to come back and get to explore more. Grant I. It's been really really just a great place to say, so shout out. All right, let's dive into it. Let's start here since you're kind of do an entire week recap, there are Look, there's a few more teams that came in today at South Carolina Ole Miss in Tennessee. So we'll touch on those, but first and start a big picture. Aaron. Uh, the week is wrapped up. Give me, give me, give me three takeaways. We'll go one bo give me three big takeaways that you have from this week.
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Speaker 2: Can I say that the SEC media should never go to Birmingham again after leaving a place like Nashville? I think, I think that to me is number one.
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Speaker 1: Like Atlanta's good, I think now, and it was all right, Atlanta was a little spread out, they'll spread out in Nashville's phenomenal, phenomenal.
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Speaker 2: I think Dallas would be good. I do like the thought of having it in Austin eventually one day, I think would be a great location. We don't ever need to go back to Birmingham, h ever.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, now hold on now, now hold on now. I see I wouldn't mind Birmingham still being in the rotation. But I get where you're eight is hard. I mean, this is it's it's it's a little different for sure, but you know well, but also you gotta understand where it was wasn't really in Birmingham, right. We were in Hoover's suburb of Birmingham and it was attached to a mall. Basically like Birmingham as a city is a badass city. Birmingham's cool as hell. You eve been like downtown Birmingham. That's birm hates. But it's closer than you think. I'm telling you about Birmingham's got like our culture. Birmingham's cool as hell. But no, look, certainly I would look, man I Orleans in the mix?
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Speaker 2: I do New Orleans.
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Speaker 1: New Orleans is definitely.
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Speaker 2: Gonna get in that mix.
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Speaker 1: No, I would think.
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Speaker 2: I would think for Shure, I think when the SEC is going as a brand, especially adding Texas Oklahoma, I think Seiki's always at the forefront. It's it's and that's why it's a four day event and one day event like the Pact holds. Yeah, it's thinking bigger, making this a bigger deal. I'm sorry to Birmingham and Hoover, You're not a big deal. Atlanta, Nashville is, Dallas is, Austin is.
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Speaker 1: New Orleans is Oh my god, this is now where I expected our three takeaways. But okay, but you know what, though, I would say this, this was the most fun probably that I've ever had. Even though last night was the first night that I have ever stayed in last night was the first day ever on a work trip. I guess that'd be one of my takeaways is I'm getting old because this is one of the first times ever. What is the first time, either at a Senior Bowl or an SEC media days where I've gone an entire night without a single drink being consumed. And I just sat in my room and said around that. I mean, two nights ago was so much fun. But damn, bru, I'm thirty four. Now I'm struggling. I struggled to bounce back a little bit. So my second biggest take way mistaking it. Yeah, I think we'll stake it. My second biggest takeaway from this this SEC mediawake for me, I think it's that the death of Alabama has been greatly exaggerated. I know we've kind of gone two opposite directions on you because just yesterday you said, look, I guarantee you know, Alabama not a contender. I'm not so sure, man. I think we've seen a few things from Saban's common Saban was talking about how, look, last year, maybe they became a bit too Bryce centric. They knew that had this credible talent, they started to rely on a bit too much. Talked about how they maybe applied too much pressure to that Alabama team, and you saw guys kind of crack out of that pressure at times. And to me, this all speaks to a team that may be a bit ironically having a couple of the best players been so damn good actually well, and I can't even say it really took away from them because like we talked about, I mean, they were literally two plays well they were too wol but also they were also
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two plays away from being unfeeded. Like it finished second in the S and P. Plus like there was a really good Alabama team that just had two losses that they kind of found ways to lose. So I would say this, this is not as talented of an Alabama team, But I can't see a world in which they actually have a better seasons. They have boyd those two loss So I don't know. I I I came away thinking that save and notepitch. I came away same thinking that Saban has a firm grass situation and that uh at that then that he feels very comfortable with they're they're at right now.
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Speaker 2: Uh. My second takeaway is how elite these coaches are. I mean to see every single day coaches come through these meetings and talk to these coaches. I mean, we did our coaches rankings for all the conferences a couple of months ago. Yeah, I remember there was you know, it might have been the Big ten of me the Big twelve where I'm like, I honestly don't know who the hell of coach of certain teams are. Yeah, same thing with the ACC and then I know, maybe it's a the worst He's maybe its because we covered the SEC. We talked about the SEC war, But I don't know. I think for the the the average fan of college football, if you look at the coaches in this conference from top to bottom, you know, obviously you got you know, drink Witz, and you got you know, clarkle hatt been Able, that's so young in their careers. But I would say from like the first, like the top ten, yeah, it's a hell of a list.
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Speaker 1: Me is a hell I.
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Speaker 2: Mean that even adding even adding Hugh Free it's who frees into that list too.
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Speaker 1: This year obviously, you know, being being back in the SEC at Auburn, you got the Lane Kiffins, the Bright.
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Speaker 2: You have three of the top five coaches in America in this conference.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's completely insane and it's funny because that was actually going to be my next takeaway was the old point. I don't know why there's only so much oxygen in the room, right, but all these teams are good. I mean, we did an SEC West previous in my morning show today, just kind of doing our rankings whatever that everybody's gonna finish. And I made clear the on time. I'm like, let's be clear about this. You're gonna hear me say negative things about some of these teams, and it's not even to say that they're bad teams because they're actually not. Right now, in the Bill Connolly s and p Puz the analytics system that I love that Colley does, all seven SEC West teams are in the top tip top thirty. All seven of them are in the top thirty teams in the country. If so, like, if if Arkansas can go playing at every converge, you're probably talking about eight to nine win teams somewhere around there, maybe even more. If if Missipi staate you go play in another conference, we no way they'd be picked to finish last year, and they were good last year. They return a ton, they bring their quarterbacks, so it's just it is overwhelming the amount of good in this conferenceation, especially, I would say in the sec West, which wall matter next year is.
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Speaker 2: Will be getting away from that, I would say my last sec away, I'll go to the quarterback position here. Uh, there's a lot being said about the only five quarterbacks representing their teams here in Nashville, and then and should teams be worried? And the more I look at the teams that didn't take quarterbacks, like I talked to the lankiaff and today about Jackson Dart a lot, the.
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Speaker 1: More I'm not worried.
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Speaker 2: Like this conference has plenty of time at the quarterback position and is going to be a really really good class of quarterbacks. And people will talking about twenty thirteen, which was my class. Yeah, we had Menzel, we had mckiern, we had mennen Berger. Oh wow, I think a couple more as well, Carter shawl at South Carolina.
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Speaker 1: Okay, hell yeah, of experienced quarterbacks, really good quarterbacks. The thing that's lacking this year is maybe experience, but talent wise, this quarterback class could end up being just as Selle sounds like Carson Beck propaganda.
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Speaker 2: Joe Milton, I.
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Speaker 1: Know what's the actual right now, let's just Joe middleback the chance to be a first first round quarterback.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if Anthony Origins could be a first round quarterback, Joe Bilton be a first round quarterback. Spencer Ratler has a ton of skills. I think guarteris have a chance of an explosive year. You know how I feel about Carson Back.
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Speaker 1: Said, Okay, wait, Corey, before you list guys off, it give you your top five sc quarterbacks in order, top five in order?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, funny, not even named Jaden Jayden won okay, ago, okay, Oh you know what's funny.
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Speaker 1: I've kind of gone down on Arkansas's the week's gone on, have you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been, it's been. It's been. No, it's been.
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Speaker 1: No real fault of their own. Just yeah, just I I have no great reasoning because I mean, again, they they returned a quarterback, they return rocket, but the defense was absolutely putrid, changing over coaching.
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Speaker 2: Ferzy defense, The receivers are inexperienced.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just and again it's it's it's not like Arkansas would be good at other conference, but in that sec West, I just don't still go ahead, Jayden kJ yep I go Joe Milton Okay, Carson Beck, okay, Spencer and Spencer rather, so who gets lost left off?
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Speaker 2: Jackson left out? Well, I think it's Jackson gonna a healthy year. I'm kind of tour of that one. Cotter Wegman, I think has a chance of a really special year. They're as like saying, are.
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Speaker 1: Any returners that I'm missing and getting left out of that list? Oh? How about aj Swan? Dude? Is aj Swan got a chance to break in?
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Speaker 2:
Yeah, it's gonna not with the team that's around him.
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Speaker 1: No, all right. Uh My final takeaway from this SEC media days. Uh again, it was going to be just how good the conference is overall, but it's that if I were a South Carolina fan, I would feel really really good about what's going on with Beamer. Yeah. Man, and and maybe look I'm I am. I can be I can be prone uh to getting sucked into a cult of personality, right, Like I can meet a person and I'll immediately just become absolutely enthralled with them, and I'll start like, hey, well whatever, I can get bamboozled. I can get sucked in just by sheer force of personality. And when I watch Shane Beemer, you got lasta by Ted last. When I see him talk, yeah, I mean he has that, he has that. Yeah, you're right. He does have that kind of unrelenting positivity to him as well, which I think goes a long way nowadays. But it's just that when I every time I hear that man talking, somebody said this week and it's one of the main quotes to stug me. It's like every time you hear Shane Beaber talk, you never come out on the other side and you're like, oh, man, I feel worse about this.
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Speaker 2: I feel worse about that team.
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Speaker 1: And then I think back and I think when he took a South Carolina team that was awful and then he went seven and six without even a quarterback, like without access to a quarterback. Then I look at Spitzer Rattler last year and was a great No, it was not great top to bottom, but it ended very strong. You in with a couple of huge wins and then you finish eight and five. So seven and six, eight and five, you have a miracle improvement right there. You bring back Rattler. Another year of Beamer getting, you know, evolving his.
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Speaker 2: Opinion, to put his process, his culture place.
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Speaker 1: I am a bit worried about some of the transfers out out that they had and and it's all kind of doesn't make sense because it does feel like there's so many possible minimums, So why would people be hopping off the bandwagon now? But like, I think South Carolina's gonna finish third in the East by Tennessee. Yeah, I know money and and I figured that that there. I don't know how they're in il now with us. And he's like, you know, it's it's he said, it's frustrating. You build a culture, you feel like it's extremely positive.
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Speaker 2: Everything's in the right direction. You have two massive wins last year, momentum through the roof, and then you know, to your star players leave, Yeah, he said, for different reasons. And you've kind of got the feeling. It wasn't gonna necessarily say it, but I think it's a little bit to do with money, especially the locations they went to.
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Speaker 1: I it's one of the other major takeaways you could have is just that nil doesn't matter. I mean, I get it, I get it. It doesn't matter. It doesn't no, no, no, I'm sorry, it matters. I mean in terms of like they well what what in terms of fans being upset about it, like being upset about anil doesn't matter, like like like once the games again and you're in the middle of it, nobody is going to give a fuck how a player got there or why he chose this school like new norm, Like yes, exactly, and it just it just feels like the new norm. And and I don't you know, I we talked about that Federal Congress. I don't think it's coming. But yeah, it just is what it is. You gotta learn to sink or swim in this new environment. But that kind of brings us what we want to talk about next, which is Lane Kiffen. And he told you something very interestingators just about like thirty minutes ago on series Sex and Radio. What what what he tell you?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it kind of ties into this nil transfer portal era and he's like, guys, goes back to the culture piece that we just talked about with with Shane Biember. He said, you can't build culture in today's game, or it's extremely difficult, especially for teams that aren't, you know, the elite like Kirby It at Georgia he could build culture because he still gets elite guys from the high school rings. Yeah that want to say three or four years. Alabama could probably do the same thing to you. But teams like South Carolina or Ole miss that that are you know, guys come in and then they go and leave and go to that next step. They go to Alabama or USC or Georgia. They move on. Your locker room is constantly rotating. It looks more like an NFL locker room instead of a traditional college football locker room. It's hard to build culture because you're getting guys that show up that are twenty twenty one. They're only going to be there for a year or two to quick stop. It takes a year or two to get them ingrained into your culture. And then the freshman that you do get that you hope you get three or four years to teach them what the ways that we want to practice, work out academics on and off the field. They end up transferring because you didn't get a junior or senior to come in there to fill the void immediately, because you know, you have to win right now and you can't wait for a freshman to develop and grow. So it is almost impossible in today's game to truly build a good culture well so it's interesting.
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Speaker 1: I definitely agree with a sentiment that it is harder than ever to build culture. And I definitely I mean for Old Miss, yeah, more so than anybody else. I mean, nobody has gone as headfirst into the portal layer as has Ole Miss. Like I do feel like they kind of feel as if, look, we're we're we're never going to be able to consistently win on that high school front. So if we maybe pour a lot of those resources into the portal like, that's where we can maybe have better success servers of the big guys. Uh. But but there is a nugget in there that I kind of would want to ask Lane about, and that's he says, you know, it feels more like an NFL team. Well that's who you need to study then, right, because the NFL teams have
cultures. And granted it's easier maybe when you have like a franchise quarterback that's around forever. Like if you're Saints fan listen to this, you think about like having like Cam Jordan on the defense like the last eleven years so set the tone. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, so so so certainly I would say that is a difference. But every NFL team is is still a new team, right, and it's still new guys and every and yet some places.
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Speaker 2: There's also the NFL that you also sign a contract, like, you know, unless you get traded. Yeah, I'm signing a contract to be a Nerooran saint for three years, four years, two your whatever. It is, like there's some sort of expectation from both sides of what this relationship is going to be. The problem now, with college sports, there is no contract. You don't know, like a guy can pick up and leave tomorrow, Like I think lanes of this too, Like you know, grad grad transfers and fall practice can pick up and leave. Yeah, if I'm a grad transfer and I'm not happy with how things are going, I could just go. Yeah. There is the loyalty.
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Speaker 1: Aspect, the contract employer and employee aspect is not there.
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Speaker 2: This thing's the NFL, so it it, I would say, it's it is harder.
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Speaker 1: Well, what loyalty in the NFL is also a triggery thing. I mean we all know this, Like a team will cut you. I don't care what kind of contract sign, A team will cut you this second that you're no longer of use to them.
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Speaker 2: So like yeah, no, it depends on what that's not. I mean, depends on the cap too. There's a lot more goes into it. There is no cap hit for a college football player to leave and move on. It's a body, it's a wonder body.
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Speaker 1: So it's not one to one. But I do think that you can still draw lessons from any consistent NFL culture, be it like a Bill Belichick, maybe even like Pete Carroll in Seattle where you've seen him go through multiple iterations of quarterback, multiple iterations of defense and still be able to maintain winning. Uh, Sean Payton had it going in New Orleans forever, even post prize go on. So it's like it's one of those deals where I don't know, I think it's harder than ever, but I think there are ways to do it, and eventually, I mean it's gonna be you're going to have to find some way, like some way of creating a process or a culture where you can get to guys immediately and have them come together, because it's not going to get any better from here on out or easier from here to win. Yeah, but cultating the process proceeds the way every coach logs everything. Cachal draft this week. Like I think once it it goes back to the whole coaching thing. Who is the face of these these major organizations, these these football teams.
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Speaker 2: It's the football coach. Yeah, Like I think ole Miss, I think Lane Kiffin, I think Alabama, I think Nick Saban, I think Georgia, I think Kirby Smart. Like That's what I'm saying. So
that's the laying because they are the culture. They are the culture, and I think there is an expectation when you sign to go to uh LSU or ole Miss because of the the brands in which SEC has. When it comes to head coaches, there is a certain expectation that a transfer comes in thinking that this is what the culture is.
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Speaker 1: Going to be like.
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Speaker 2: But it's still you're talking about eighteen and twenty year old kids that you know are are freethinking more now than ever and have their own brands that they want up to build. Because of social media and everything else, that it does tend to clash a little bit more. But I don't know, I don't have an answer for it right now. It is a struggle, I would say struggle more for the mid tier teams of the big team.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that I would say, though I would. I think there's probably some value to be gained by going and picking the brains of some of those long time NFL great so you can get Uh, look laying.
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Speaker 2: Your chopping of Pete Carroll's just a couple of USC coaches. You know it's chopping up.
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Speaker 1: Look at him, dude. Okay, real quick. On the teams that we're here today, Aaron, Uh, Tennessee I feel like is clearly gonna be the second best team in the East. Maybe them given too much credit too early. I specking them win ten games again this season. I think they're over runders are like eight and a half or something. I think Jake pick Kentucky to finish second on our morning show today. Uh, where are you at with Tennessee? Because I I don't like when I bring down the East. There's Georgia tier of its own, Tennessee tier of its own, and then I lump in Miszoo and uh in Kentucky and South Carolina and South Carolina.
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Speaker 2: No, I mean, I wouldn't. I'm not putting Tennessee in. It's on tier yet. Okay, you can't tell me one year graduate to your own tier. I can actually went South Carolin to beat you to end the season.
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Speaker 1: I can know when it comes to the awakening of a slumbering giant. AA think they just should have Yeah, in they ad that that Newsburg this morning the number eight player in the nation wide receiver out of Jordans, Tennessee.
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Speaker 2: How to stay to Georgia.
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Speaker 1: So I think I think projecting going for the next five years, I think Tennessee is is is heading in that direction. I don't. I want to see back to back seasons. I want to see, you know, I I have faith in in Joe Milton. I just put him in my top five for for quarterbacks heading into this season. But he still got to go out there and do it. Let's not forget the last time Joe Milton was a full time starter at Tennessee was a couple of years ago when he got bench because he couldn't perform at a high level. So can he.
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Speaker 2: Streamed together an entire season as QB one that's still to be seen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to see that where you look at the other teams that he's gonna be facing that are trying to fighting for that nuver two spot. South Carolina has a quarterback that's had a lot of football in Spencer Ratler, Devral O'Leary has played a lot of football.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I know he's on a new football teams and he's with Liam Cohen. He's with some experienced receivers. So I wouldn't. I would hesitate to say Tennessee is in its own lead or tier. I would kind of go Georgia Tier one. I'd go Tennessee, Kentucky Tier two. South Carolina not even getting in Tier too. I want to put South Carolina in Tier two.
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Speaker 1: Damn.
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Speaker 2: I want to put South Carolina in Tier too. Damn.
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Speaker 1: So South Carolina is there slumming it with Missoo and Bandy slumming it with Missoo. I suppose Bandy's getting there with tier Yeah, and for I.
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Speaker 2: Guess heading the season Florida, Yes, it's we keep forgeting about Florida. I mean, there's amazing how much a brand like Florida is that should have been takeaway. Well it has been, that should be wrapped.
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Speaker 1: That's a.
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Speaker 2: Retakeway, which is good though. I think he's good. If you're no, if you're if you're if you're on on on at Florida right now, at any capacity. The fact that no one is talking about you is a good thing because people are saying that it's such a rebuild that we don't have any expectations for for this year.
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Speaker 1: No, she is weird though, because we did just wantch witness Brian Kelly completely rebuild an LSU team in one offseason and and like nowadays, more than ever you can rebuild and look at Florida's head recruiting wins. For sure, they just flipped a big wide receiver from Florida State.
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Speaker 2: I believe it was. Uh so, like there's there, there's I know there's a minimum the recruiting trail, but yeah, I don't.
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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess. I'm just wondering a bit why it is that they're being largely ignored to getting kind of a free pass in the day and age, where in theory it's never been a better time.
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Speaker 2: And she was last year this time was picked to be the worst team in the SEC. That it's a good point. And what happened so four rand and maybe it's a good thing that Yeah, one of fans that so sure it can't happen, don't think it is, but it could happen. But that's how it's tiers for him, We're just here one. Yeah, Georgia Tier one, Uh, Tennessee, Kentucky that tier two, Okay, Missouri, South Carolina, Florida the next tier, and then Vandy and then ed its own tier. We missing someone, No.
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Speaker 1: I think that's a good breakdown. I think I think that. I think that makes sense. I think the only thing that I think about Tennessee that still feels different than everybody else not named Georgia is the potential just feels so much bigger. Like I don't care how good Shane Bieber gets a top Calina. Like I said, I really like him. It's hard to ever really feel there's championship potential there.
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Speaker 2: I think I could say the same thing from Bazoo.
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Speaker 1: I would say the same thing for Kentucky. And I know a lot of Kentucky fans maybe would want to really disagree with that, and maybe maybe I'm wrong. I don't think I am.
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Speaker 2: But like Tennessee, I can see Tennessee winning championship.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they have the resources to do so they now, but they have to continue to be able to overcome is geographical disadvantage, right, being in a state that doesn't produce us. You know, Georgia produces a ton of players, like we just talked about. So we'll see if Tennessee and get back to where they were and man, you know what, maybe just some thirty four and when I was a kid, like Tennessee was freaking awesome every year and so like I'm used to seeing them potentially win championships in play for SEC championships.
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Speaker 2: Who else is up today?
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Speaker 1: All many?
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Speaker 2: We have an old miss a little bit already. I think it'd all miss finish in fourth in the West.
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Speaker 1: Yep, right now, right behind A and M.
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Speaker 2: There's a press of seeing junkins. Junkins of zero represent only sophomore here today. I thought he looked good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I asked Lene about, you know, the quarterback situation a little bit, and he talked about Jackson Dart And it was interesting because I also start to Spencer Watler for yeah, South Carolina about this. You know, people think it's so easy. I'm a great quarterback. I could pick up and go somewhere else and be elite. Let's not forget Caleb Williams had the benefit of going with his head coach from Oklahoma to Southern cal knew the system and was able to continue to progress. Going from one system to an X is like learning a new language. You're learning a new way to cold play, so you have to get confidence just being able to spit out a play to your teammates, new footwork, new.
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Speaker 1: Way to read. I mean, he went from an offense that was more progression based at Oklahoma that obviously we know is very different to an offense that was more single high too high read.
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Speaker 2: So there was an adjustment period that had to be made. I know they went and got a, you know, a new offense coordinator this offseason, but Courtney Shane Beemer. They kept the offense very similar when it comes to terminology, the concepts, the way he reads it. A couple of tweaks here or there, but nothing major. So for Spencer Ratler, it should be an easy progression. So bringing that back to Dart, he went from USC which was a very different offense to Lane Kiffin. It it wasn't gonna happen overnight. And let's not forget he was a freshman and only a sophomore last year, so he's still a young quarterback in a brand new system. So he hit on all those things which you know I kind of know being a quarterback. The way he discussed that and discussed dark to me,
rea from the fact that Jackson Dart will be the starting.
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Speaker 1: Corporate Him and Darts sound like yeah mm and Darts sound like the relationship has flourished a bit, whereas.
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Speaker 2: It looked like it was pretty much. I mean, I thought Jackson Dart was out of little Yeah.
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Speaker 1: With Mistry standards and Walker Howard transferring again, I mean we all thought that, like, well, you don't do that unless you already have some milotive. Shout out Jackson dark Man. You're always telling people to toughen the buck up nowadays.
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Speaker 2: I looked at jack and Oly dark I hope he called competition man. And what did he do?
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Speaker 1: He stuck around and he fucking won the job.
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Speaker 2: He is He is a skill set. He's got the arm, he's got the accuracy, he's got the footwork. Over seven hundred yards rushing last year, I mean the crazy stat is Ole Miss two hundred and fifty yards rushing per game. Year they were had more arts per game than Navy. Yeah they were. They were third in the country to two other triple option teams.
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Speaker 1: Damn crazy. Uh you know what Jokings have like series touchdowns for their offensive lineman, quarterback, tight end, off running back, maybe the best running back in the country, and p Yale at the receiving position.
00:28:22
Speaker 2: They got some transfer receivers as well, bringing Pee golden and golden and fenced. They're no team that's again talked enough about. I think they can make some big, big way.
00:28:31
Speaker 1: Do you think they should be third in the West or let's tier the West and we'll close it out that way.
00:28:35
Speaker 2: Well, tier to the Alabama LA shoot tier one.
00:28:38
Speaker 1: Yes, I would say a and m Ole miss and outthrow Arkansas on there that night with beer Arkansas in Tier two, caj you gotta put when you got kJ and Rocket as quarterback running back, you gotta you gotta put them in there, all right, all right, I don't know, Okay, okay, I'm maybe question a little bit, but that we'll accept that logic. And then what you got, uh miss and here are we missing Alburt Auburn?
00:29:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I would put Auburn ahead too, So you would put Auburn. They get more boots chips in any of Yeah, that's.
00:29:15
Speaker 1: True, that's true. So are we talking about it?
00:29:18
Speaker 2: Steve?
00:29:19
Speaker 1: But okay, so here we won gay so album, l s U Ole, miss A and M Auburn and who else you say was in there?
00:29:28
Speaker 2: Arkansas and then who miss still West is great?
00:29:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, the West is great?
00:29:33
Speaker 2: And you just said it.
00:29:34
Speaker 1: Every team is what over the thirty because like, because honestly, honestly, this is a this is a shitty tier list, because I feel like we actually have to put Missisi stated in that same time as well, like there's no reason why Missus shouldn't be in that tier when they were third last year and they would turn their quarterback and against the new systems to two.
00:29:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is, man, it is a heap of talent in that and that and then there's there's two teams in that tier too, at least one at A and M. Who has enough talent to be I mean the first eight Yeah, the past two years beat Alabama was a playway from b Alabama and beat the shit out of the LSU. Yeah, so like they're right near to jump into that tier one talent wise.
00:30:16
Speaker 1: A and M's problem is it seems to be culture not talent. But but maybe look, I know everybody talks about the exodus, but again, sometimes that can be a bit of a good ridden situation, not even say that the player is not like a good guy or good kid or and he might go into he might ball somewhere else out but maybe it was never gonna happen there. Like a lot of times when somebody leaves, it's it's actually kind of probably best for the situation overall, right, And so you may see some of that with A and M with the guys, and I feel like Jimbo was giving up pretty confident vibe.
00:30:51
Speaker 2: One of the dbs that left A and M with the Georgia just also got dismissed from Georgia. So yeah, it tells you something about maybe some of the guys that you brought in and that just maybe.
00:31:03
Speaker 1: He went to L s U. And I haven't heard anything from since, but like Denver Harris, like he allegedly you know that was like the smoking weed in the locker room story and stuff. So like so yeah, so so I think for A and M.
00:31:17
Speaker 2: Cleansing was needed.
00:31:18
Speaker 1: They we cannot grant them the rank of Tier one, but out of all the teams in Tier two, they're the only one that I see with the potential to actually win the West. I don't think any other team could win the West.
00:31:32
Speaker 2: But evers editing this film for us, we need a tiers list. Yeah that's tears.
00:31:36
Speaker 1: Yeah steps tears, not t E A R S t I E R S. That'll do it. For coverage from Nashville, Shout out the volume. Shout out Ellie May.
00:31:50
Speaker 2: I'm going on.
00:31:51
Speaker 1: Getting a skelet out of the players land and he's my late tonight. Shout out Ryan Bramley, Adam Grausey, and Danny Cardin as Paul Farrington. Shout out produce sure, Aaron Murray. Yeah, get in the film back, dude, making it happen, going viral all you keep.
00:32:07
Speaker 2: Talking, may call it whatever you want to send me. That that bonus for this week for a producer et short and error. Yeah, we appreciate it. That's definitely gonna want to make them keep us around. Let's keep calling out the boss man.
00:32:18
Speaker 1: I agree. Oh and I'll see. I'll say this all you Oklahoma fans and my mentions, all you're doing is prove me right. They're all coming after me because I said that. Because because I said that, uh yeah, just because I said that. Brent Minnables took over a winning culture. He did. And now yeah, well no not. According to the mental gymnastics champions over there, there is a ou uh yeah, which which I actually we're talking to Josh paid about. This is more late kick Josh and he kind of he's like, Okay, let's say this. Let's say let's say you asked those same people two years ago about Lincoln Riley's culture. What would they think, right, Like, like yeah, like when they're going to playoffs and they're winning the Big twelve ago, He's like, yeah, fair, fair, but but look you real ones. You know, I got you Boom, We're sooner.
00:33:04
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna be better.
00:33:05
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