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Thank you. Hello and welcome back to Small Town Murder Express.
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Yay and choo-choo. Yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name
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is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman.
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Thank you folks so much for joining us again today
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on another crazy edition of Small Town Murder Express. Really
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packing 10 pounds of murder in a two-pound bag here.
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This is a wild story that's been like kind of
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trickling on and on and weird things have been coming
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out about it. It's very interesting. So all aboard the
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murder train pulling away from the station, let's get to this.
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First of all, head over to shut up and give
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me murder.com. You need tickets, guys. You got to get
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your tickets, tickets to live shows here. Starting with the
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18th of, um, of September in Milwaukee. There's, I think
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a few left. We released all of our holds and stuff.
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So I think there's a couple left for that, but
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I don't know how many, um, Also, the 19th of September,
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State Theater, Minneapolis. Get those tickets. Dallas on October 3rd.
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October 16th, San Jose, California. October 17th, Sacramento. Hey, listen,
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we're coming to Sacramento. You got to come out for this.
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This is not exactly a vacation spot here with all.
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So help us out here. And then Terrytown, which is
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almost sold out on November 13th. And then Boston, more accurately,
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Medford on the 14th of November. Cool theater there. So.
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Lots of good times. Can't wait for that. Shut up
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Crime and Sports. We promise you don't have to like sports.
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screwed up that didn't have to screw up. And then
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Crime in Sports, one Small Town Murder. And how much
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of that do they get, Jimmy? You get it all,
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you guys. Every damn drop of it. That's right. This
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week for Crime in Sports, definitely don't have to like
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sports for this because you get it all. Lawn chair
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Larry we're going to talk about, who is a guy
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who decided to make an aerial device from his lawn chair.
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For what? We'll find out. I am fascinated with people
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like this that need to try to do stuff like that.
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And for Small Town Murder Donner Party Part 2, they're
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about stuck and about to start eating each other, everybody. Yeah.
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the end of the regular show. How much more could
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we give? That said, let's do this, everybody. I think
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it's time to sit back, clear the lungs here. What
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do you say? Arms to the sky. Let's all shout.
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Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this, everybody. Okay.
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Let's go on a trip, shall we? We are. Yeah,
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where are we going? We are going to Iowa this week.
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You can hear the excitement. You can feel my voice trembling.
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We're going to West Liberty, Iowa, which is in far
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eastern Iowa, on like the Illinois border there. The west
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side of the town on the east side of the state. Exactly. Well, yeah,
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because there's a Liberty in Ohio that they named it after.
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So this would technically be West Liberty. You'd have to
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skip a couple states to get there, but it's west apparently. Oh,
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it's super west. Yeah, there's two states over, but it's there.
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It's almost called California West New York.
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Well, it could have been anything. Yeah, I heard West
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Nebraska was kicked around a little bit, but they decided
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against it. 50 minutes to Cedar Rapids, about three hours
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to Chicago, and about three hours and 45 minutes to
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our last Iowa episode, which was early Iowa. That was cold-blooded, quote, hero,
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that episode, episode 687. That's a fun, twisty one, so
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check that out. It's a regular-length episode. This is in
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Muscatine County, area code, we all know old Muscatine County,
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area code 319, population here 3,847. Very small. Small little
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town here. Median household income, a little below the national average.
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It's $ 58, 488, so not too high, but lucky for everybody there,
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the housing is about half of the rest of the country, too.
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Very cheap. Yeah. Median home cost here, $ 180, 600. Wow. Yeah.
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With $ 60, 000 a year, you could actually afford that house,
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so that's not bad. A little bit of history. It
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was first known as the Wapasana Village. Wapasoniak. Wapasoniak. Wapasoniak. Noniak. Noniak.
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You're getting there. Something like that. I'll hand this to
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you and see what you do with it. I'm not
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going to get there. You are. No, I'm not even there.
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I'm not there either. That's the point. I'm nowhere near it.
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Native American language is so confusing because there's so many S's, P's, N's.
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Yeah. A lot of times it's like Japanese, though. It's
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pretty phonetic. But this is just a hard one for
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me for some reason. It means smooth surfaced meandering stream.
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So that was the original town. It was the first
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village was located a little northwest of the present day town.
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And it was laid out by a guy named Simon Bagley.
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His niece, Louisa, they let her name the town. They
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let her name the post office. For some reason. Let's
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let a kid name it. And she said they wanted
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it to be West Liberty because she liked Liberty, Ohio.
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So this is what happens when you let a nine-year-old
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name your team. You end up with this. They want
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to name it Liberty. We can't do that. At least
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they didn't, like, name it after their puppy or something.
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You know what I mean? Kids want to name, like,
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weird things. Or Donald Rupert. Let your four-year-old name the
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dog and see what the fuck that's– I've seen that
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before where you're like, what's your dog's name? They're like,
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I let my four-year-old name in. Oh, okay. Yeah.
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I have friends that have a dog named Tartar Sauce
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because of that same reason.
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Yeah. That's what I mean. You let the kid. Tartar Sauce.
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You should go. You can name the kid. And they go,
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Tartar Sauce? And you go, never mind. Never mind. Get
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the hell out of here. We're going to name the
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dog a name. We'll handle it. Yeah. Reviews of this town. Okay.
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Here are two that are extremely similar, and I don't
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understand either one of them.
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Okay.
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Okay. Five stars. It's a very Pacific town. P-A-S-I-F-I-C. Pacific?
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Do they mean Pacific? We'll get there. It's a very
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Pacific town with no disturbances. People are friendly and kind. Furthermore,
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rent is affordable. There's also a turkey plant, which offers
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a lot of jobs for newcomers in town. We all
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know that parting out poultry is the job everyone desires.
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I get it. You need a job. You need a job.
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But that's not like a, you know, oh, my career.
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I can't wait to do that. That's a rough, gross job.
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It's a hard job. Field foul slaughterhouse. Yeah, that's a dirty, nasty,
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gross job. It's tough. It's a tough one. Even though
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it's a small town, it offers great opportunities. for family
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entertainment such as public parks and a small affordable theater.
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they're not even like next to each other. It's a
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very Pacific place to live. And this is spelled like
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the ocean with a C instead of an S like
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the other person. It's a very, I don't know. And
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I tried to figure it out. It's just these two
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people with very friendly people habitating. It has tons of
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trees around its house. with makes, with makes the town
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look beautiful during spring and fall. It is safe and quiet. Furthermore,
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it has nice places to go have fun at, such
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as a small theater, car races, several restaurants that have
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delicious food. That person, lots of small words. That's a
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person who named their dog tartar sauce. Yeah. Um, three stars.
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Everything is connected, which I like, but of course, with
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preference kind of families. I, I, You got me. I
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love this. What's going on? I don't know. I love
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the support with sports and the academic success, which I
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hope you didn't have because that would bode. Negate this
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whole thing. Exactly. Three stars here. It's a pretty small town.
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You can meet everyone and make easy connections with families.
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Too spensive. S-P-E-N-S-I-V-E. Too spensive to be a small town.
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but is a quiet town with great sport support for
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our students. You need to get English support for your students.
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Fuck sports. What is happening? It's got to be specific.
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It's got to be the other word they're trying to use.
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But two different people. Said Pacific and spelled it differently.
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That's what I didn't get to. When I saw the
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first one, I said, yeah, that's what I thought too.
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But then I saw the other one. I'm like, no,
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this is crazy. Things to do here. The Muscatine County Fair, everybody. Yeah.
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Let's do it. By the way, I went to the
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Dutchess County Fair so I could help make fun of
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it on the show here. And it was worth it.
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There was a guy. I went with Sarah and we
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did the squirty things. We were just having fun. We
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were going around eating hot dogs. Yeah. looking at cows
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and shit. Those are a scam somehow and I don't
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know how. We did the square and we're like, yeah, yeah,
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we'll do it. We sit down and they're like, oh,
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we need like three more people before we can start.
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We're like, okay. So then we sat there for 10
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minutes while this guy– carnies need to– dude, carnies used
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to be good. They used to be like, hey, come
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over here. I can win that lady a prize. Come
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on over here. They'd give their pitch. This guy was
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literally going, we need three more people. Come on. Come on, guys.
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We need three more people. And Sarah and I are
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looking at each other like, this is the worst pitch
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of all time. Give us the stuffed animal. We'll fucking
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do the pitch. But it took a while before we
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actually did it.
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I did that with my daughter and my son. I
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won once. And then I kept sitting there trying to
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win again because I got two kids. I can't leave
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here with one fucking stuffed animal.
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Good luck. I'm going to be the worst dad ever.
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Eventually, I just bought all of the seats just so
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that my son could get a toy too.
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I was like, I can't leave with this. And they
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made me do like six rounds of it. And I
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kept losing. I'm like, you're scamming me. And I don't
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know how. I know it's making me really mad. I
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was like, watch, I'm going to scam you. I'm buying
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all the seats. Give me a prize.
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I'm going to scam you. Here's all my money. And
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they're like, boy, he sure did get us, didn't he? Boy,
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did he pull one over on us. Man, he figured
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it out, boy. We're going to have to start making
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rules against that. You know what I mean? Anyway, this
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place has a queen and princess contest, which is always uncomfortable.
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kings. No kings, no. Bacon buddies. Which is actually
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kind of nice. They get developmentally disabled children and they
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show pigs. They do the pigs in the pig show. They, like,
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teach them how to do it and they get into it. Oh,
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that's fun. That's a nice thing to do. It's really nice.
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I don't know.
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I hope they explain to those children that we're going
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to slaughter these.
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Like, you like bacon? They're bacon buddies. I'm sure they
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get the kind of, you know. I don't know how
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delayed you have to be, but you're going to get
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that reference, you know. Trailer race. There's a trailer race.
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I don't know. However that is. To get your house
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and pull it on down. And a Bill Riley talent show.
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Not Bill O'Reilly. Bill Riley talent show. Don't know what
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happens there. And the lineup musically will be Confederate Railroad,
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which that sounds. No. Wow. Okay. I'm not listening. Josh Ross.
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Sounds kind of plain. And Mark. Oh, God. Jesus Christ.
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I assume that's chestnut. I put Mark Chessbutt, which is
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not what it is. Mark Chessnut's good. How about Mark Chessbutt?
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Is he any good? You look like an old guy. Yeah.
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I feel like he's trying to think because there's a chestnut.
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I don't know if it's Mark Chessnut. It's got to
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be Mark Chessnut. That's who they've got to get. Who
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the fuck knows? Late 90s, early 2000s country singer. He's fine. Yeah,
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it's going to be that kind of thing. There's also
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the Great Plains Puppet Train Regional Puppet Festival. Know what
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they have there? Puppets? Fucking puppets. Moving on. Let's talk
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about some murder. Who cares? We're going to talk about puppets.
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They do marionette shows. They literally have a workshop on
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shadow puppets there. A workshop on shadow puppets? Yes. To
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show you how to... Which is a great skill when
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you're eight and there's a film strip, but I don't
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think they show film strips anymore, so it's really a
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lost art at this point.
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There's a guy on Instagram that I watch that's amazing
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at it.
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Yeah. It's kind of fun. Okay. There you go. Maybe
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he's teaching a workshop. So that said, let's talk about
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some murder here. Let's do it. Let's talk about a
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young man first here. Corey Lee Wieneke. W-I-E-N-E-K-E. Corey. Corey's
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born March 25th, 1970. He's the only child of James
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and Susan Weneke. He went to West Liberty High School,
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played center on the football team, was a starting center.
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He's only like 5'9, but he's over 200 pounds. He's
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a sturdy, thick dude. But not like a fat guy,
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just like a real thick guy. One of those little
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fireplug guys. The team went all the way to the
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Class AA semifinals. He graduated from high school in 88.
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His dad said this about him. Corey was just like
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a big brother to everybody in the whole neighborhood. He's
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very good socially, and he's very kind of an outgoing guy, Corey.
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All right. Another friend said this. He was a fun guy.
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He was friendly, outgoing, charming. Everybody was his friend. I mean,
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I didn't know anybody that didn't like Corey. That's high
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school Corey. Nobody didn't like him. Good guy. Yeah. Now,
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his job when he graduates is– I don't think he
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went to college or anything. Instead, he worked at Wink's Tap,
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which is a bar that his family owns. His grandmother, Betty,
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owns it. So it's kind of the– it's in downtown
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West Liberty. It's the bar in downtown West Liberty. Wink's? Wink's. Wink,
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like wink. Wink's Tap. Yeah, because it's Winnicky. I guess
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it's Winky probably. Yeah. He started there as a kid,
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you know, just doing the ice and that kind of shit.
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And then he ended up on his 18th birthday. Maybe
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that's the law in Iowa. I don't know. But that's
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when he moved behind the bar when he was 18. Oh, yeah.
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The bartender. And within by the time he's 21, he's like,
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you know,
he's a hugely popular guy in town. He's
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the bartender of the downtown bar. He serves your beers
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every night. Yeah. Everybody knows him. He works the late shift.
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So he's the guy that's there at closing time. Becomes
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real popular. He's got a– by 1992, he's bartending. He
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drives a blue Cadillac, a big old like a 70s
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Cadillac from what I gathered. Yeah. Like one of the
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boats like my grandmother had where the doors– when they slam,
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they're like– like it sounds like a bank vault closing. Yeah.
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One of those. It's got a 454 in it. It's
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a big one. Huge monster. So this– means everybody knows
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his car it's a bright blue enormous cadillac so everyone
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there's cory driving by you can't miss him basically um
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by 22 he's also into partying i mean he's a
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bartender and he works till two in the morning and
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he's into partying um he knows where they're at he
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smokes some weed uh he does some coke here and
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there too like some coke smoke some weed does some
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drinking um And apparently, too, there's a bunch of different
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guys he gets drugs from. There's a guy named Slim Zamora,
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which is the best drug dealer name of all time.
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Slim Zamora? That sounds awesome. Not bad. Another guy, way
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less cool of a drug dealer name, Ken Hammond. That's
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not fun. That's like a sitcom, Dad. That's no fun.
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Slim at least sounds Mexican. He might get you good shit.
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At least he's got a nickname. You know what I mean? Slim.
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Slim's got, you know, does so much coke, he's Slim.
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I don't know, something. But then there's Otis Sanders, which
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is kind of in between, as for a drug dealer name.
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Not here nor there. Now, he's not really selling drugs
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or anything, Corey, but he's the bartender that if you
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want something, he can make a phone call and get
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it for you. He's that guy. So he might make 20,
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he'll make an extra 20 bucks off an eight ball
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or something, but he's The bartender knows everything, everybody. The
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bartenders have connections. I know there's a lot of– whenever
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I mention working in restaurants, people explain I work in
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a restaurant and I never had those experiences. Good for you.
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That's great. I'm sure you didn't. But every restaurant I
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ever worked at and I grew up working in restaurants
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and my family– like everybody there knows how to get
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drugs and does drugs. It's just one of those things.
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If you work until 2 in the morning, you tend
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to do– there's a difference. Yeah. Don't know why. You're
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just bored.
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There's a difference between working at an actual restaurant with
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a sous chef than working at fucking Panda Express.
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That's not a restaurant. No, no, that's not a restaurant. Well,
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it's a restaurant. Jesus, because I got yelled at for making.
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Never mind. Forget it. I'm not even going to bother. What?
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Not belittling your career. However, you know that it wasn't
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your first choice. You didn't on career day. You didn't
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say I'm going to work the fries.
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Yeah, exactly. You didn't say that. Thank you. You say
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it because they treat you like a special Olympian or something.
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They do. They do. They treat you like you're, he's
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brave to come out here.
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He's so brave to put himself out there.
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That's how they treat. It's fucking insane. Don't worry, guys.
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They don't parade me out with the bacon buddies. No.
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You got to get Jimmy a bacon buddy is what
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it sounds like sometimes. I'm like, stop treating Jimmy like that.
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I like my own ass. He's a grown man, and
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he's a dick sometimes, too, unlike Special Olympians, which is
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why I love him. That's the point. That's why I
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love you, because you're a dick sometimes, and that's great.
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That makes me laugh.
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It's so nice. I get a pass a lot.
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Yeah, yeah. They treat you like, well, Jimmy doesn't know
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any better.
It's like, what are you talking about? He's
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an ass. technically he has finished a higher level of
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education than I have. So make me the guy who
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doesn't know any better. It's more fun. I think it
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sounds like just because I have to talk and it's like,
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I don't want to do all this talking. This is just,
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I read better. I'm sorry. So anyway, back to this.
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I'm real bad at that. Corey, ran also a little
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gambling operation out of Winx as well. Corey's making a
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buck or two here where he can. He's a small-town bartender.
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He's also got some girlfriends here, let's talk about. First
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of all. Several, huh? Well, here's one named Jody Hotz.
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She's 22 and 92, same age as him. She and
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Corey went to school together, started dating when they were
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like 17. She works at a bank in Iowa City.
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He works nights, so they don't really see each other
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that often. But the fall, earlier into the fall of 91,
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they announced their engagement. She had an engagement ring on,
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so they're engaged. It's a great relationship. Yeah. They live
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in a small two-bedroom house on a piece of land
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on on a gravel road about three miles outside of
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West Liberty, um, that her father owned. So they're, you know,
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not really worried about the rent. Um, you know, it
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was kind of not a great, kind of a fallen
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apart kind of a house, but you're both 22. It's
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your first place. Who cares? I lived in a horrible
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apartment when I was that age. So the other thing though,
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he has at least four relationships going on. That's the problem.
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Sexual relationships. Wow. Oh, he gets around the small town. Um,
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Later on, a police officer will say there was Hotz.
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That's Jody, the one he was with there, H-O-T-Z. A
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woman named Wendy Marshall. A woman named Annette. And then
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there's also a fourth relationship, too, that we'll talk about here.
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The thing is Jody knows about all this shit. Jody
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seems
to know he's Tom Cat and around West Liberty. Yeah.
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Awesome.
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Yeah. She knew there was another woman, other women, and
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she was still planning the wedding. She thought, oh, this
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is just him getting his wild oats. And then once
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we get married, he'll settle down and we'll have kids.
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It's like John Lovitz.
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Yeah.
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Just slaying it. Just slaying it. We had a long
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John Lovitz conversation before the show. That's a fun joke
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for us. And you're like, what are you talking about?
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Other people don't know. John's done well. He's done well.
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There's also Wendy Marshall, Wendy with an I. She's 20
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at this point. In July of 92, she gave birth
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to a daughter. Guess who the father is? Is it Wieneke?
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It's Corey. Yeah, Wieneke. He did not formally acknowledge paternity,
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and his interactions with the baby were limited. So he
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was saying, I don't think that's my kid, basically. Really? Yeah. Now,
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Wendy wanted a future with him, and she was, you know,
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really like she thought they were having a relationship. And
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we're going to, you know, we have a baby. Things
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are going to happen. Then there is the mystery woman,
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and we think the mystery woman is a woman named
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Missy Morrison, who was married to a farmer named Bob Morrison,
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who lived near where Corey and Jody live. So he
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comes to them at the bar. Yeah, or shit. It's
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just some local farm wife from down the road from him.
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So who knows? Well, they did meet at the bar, though.
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She would frequent local bars and have affairs with younger men.
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The farmer's wife is coming in from the fields. That
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a girl. Yep. One of them, according to a witness,
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was Corey. So if there's a woman around throwing it
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around to everybody, Corey's going to catch a piece of it.
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Put it that way. He's going to be one of
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the guys. Corey's going to reel in some. Yeah. Sure.
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Then there is Annette D. Hazen. D is not the
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initial D. It's D-E-E. Annette D. Hazen. Later on, McCrab.
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Later on, Cahill. So lots of names for her. She's
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done well, too. Yeah. Well, she's not doing too great here.
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She's about seven years older than Corey. All right. So
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she's the older lady, which is 29. Not an old
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lady by any stretch. She had been married and divorced
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and has two kids at this point. So totally different
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life than Corey at this point. After the divorce, she
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moved in with her brother, Denny Hazen, and his wife, Jackie,
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with a Q, by the way. I was calling her
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Jacques in my head the whole time. I'm like, it's
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her brother Jacques. And then I'm like, wait, Denny? Jacques
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is married to a chick named Denny? And then I'm like, wait,
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that's Jackie. They... J-A-C-Q-U-E. That's Jacques. That's Jacques. That's Jacques, right?
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That's what I thought. Look up Cousteau.
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I'm pretty sure that's exactly how you spell it.
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It's more Jacques than Jackie. I'll tell you that much.
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Is it Jack-ay? Jacques-you, I'll call her. I don't know.
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So he lives with Denny and Jacque in their two-story
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farmhouse a few miles from West Liberty. She brings her
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kids to live there. She and Jacque become close. The
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sister-in-law is here. They like each other. Now, she worked
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basically when she needed money, Annette. She doesn't really have
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a career or anything going on. Yeah, I don't know.
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But she doesn't have a real steady career. She worked
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at Winx on and off. She would open some mornings.
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She would cover some shifts here and there, but she's
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not like a staple. And she went out at night
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and hung out and partied. She liked to drink and
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do coke. That's her jam, Annette. Yeah, she sounds fun.
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An investigator said Annette was living day to day, going
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to work when you needed money, going out at night, partying,
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still trying to live that lifestyle that Corey's living. The
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20-year-old stuff. Yeah. Corey's 22. That's the difference. You're not.
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You're almost 30 and you have two kids. So it's interesting, though.
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Other thing about Annette, she's never been, despite kind of
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going out at night, drinking, doing a little coke here
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and there, she's never been arrested for anything or anything
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like that. She's not. Okay. Keeps it between the white lines. Yeah. Now,
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the thing about her is, this is why I was
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kind of like, that's not that great here. They knew
454
00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:02.460
each other, she and Corey, before she came to work
455
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:06.269
at the bar. That's because she met Corey when he
456
00:26:06.309 --> 00:26:10.750
was 16 and she was 23. Oh, how'd they do that?
457
00:26:11.250 --> 00:26:13.930
They were fucking. She said they didn't have sex at
458
00:26:13.990 --> 00:26:16.230
that point, which I'm not sure about, but they just
459
00:26:16.299 --> 00:26:20.400
messed around. In other words, I molested the 16-year-old is
460
00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:21.079
what she's saying.
461
00:26:22.019 --> 00:26:26.279
A 23-year-old was hanging out with romantic ideas?
462
00:26:26.299 --> 00:26:29.779
Yes. With a 16-year-old, yeah. I mean, for the guy–
463
00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:33.630
if you're 16, you'd think that's jackpot times a 23-year-old.
464
00:26:33.710 --> 00:26:40.589
But also, if you're 23, that's pretty pathetic, honestly. That's sad. Incredibly. Incredibly.
465
00:26:40.609 --> 00:26:43.309
Either way, whether– No matter which way the sexes go,
466
00:26:43.369 --> 00:26:45.410
obviously with the male, that's fucking disgusting.
467
00:26:45.470 --> 00:26:52.369
But it's really fucking pathetic. Get a life. Yeah. You're
468
00:26:52.390 --> 00:26:54.829
not going to fuck a 16-year-old boy's psyche up by
469
00:26:54.849 --> 00:26:58.109
fucking him. That's not. You're just not. We've been. And
470
00:26:58.150 --> 00:27:02.190
people go, oh, yeah. No. Maybe some. We've been 16-year-old boys.
471
00:27:02.809 --> 00:27:05.170
There is very little that anyone could do to you
472
00:27:05.230 --> 00:27:07.490
that your friends already haven't done to you. You know
473
00:27:07.509 --> 00:27:11.150
what I'm saying? To make you feel awful. Yeah. Your
474
00:27:11.230 --> 00:27:12.930
friends are there to kick you in the balls when
475
00:27:12.970 --> 00:27:13.539
you're feeling good.
476
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.339
The majority of 16-year-old boys are trying to put that
477
00:27:18.420 --> 00:27:19.880
in something already.
478
00:27:20.019 --> 00:27:22.160
And a 23-year-old. We don't care how old she is.
479
00:27:22.180 --> 00:27:24.299
That's great. Yeah, that's terrific.
480
00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:26.650
Fuck if she's 55. I'm trying to put it in
481
00:27:26.730 --> 00:27:27.930
something and see what it's like.
482
00:27:28.230 --> 00:27:35.329
Younger than your mom. Awesome, basically. You wouldn't care. Perfect.
483
00:27:35.369 --> 00:27:39.750
There you go. So, but this is, it shows poor
484
00:27:39.849 --> 00:27:43.009
judgment on anyone who's 23 and has any sort of
485
00:27:43.049 --> 00:27:46.130
relationship with a 16-year-old, never mind the legalities of it
486
00:27:46.259 --> 00:27:49.019
or just the moral grossness of the whole thing. It's
487
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.420
just fucking bizarre. Yeah. Then three years later, once he's
488
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.140
like 19, it became an on-again, off-again thing where they
489
00:27:56.180 --> 00:27:59.339
would fuck here and there, basically. By 92, they're fucking
490
00:27:59.380 --> 00:28:02.680
pretty consistently. So he's got living with a chick he's
491
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:06.119
engaged to, banging some broad he has a kid with,
492
00:28:06.500 --> 00:28:08.740
He's got this one and also the farmer's wife when
493
00:28:08.789 --> 00:28:10.569
she comes in from the fields once in a while.
494
00:28:11.410 --> 00:28:17.250
Corey is dipping his wick, my friends. Uh, so the, um, summer,
495
00:28:17.329 --> 00:28:20.950
fall 92, he and Annette are having sex several times
496
00:28:20.990 --> 00:28:24.200
a week at the bar in cars in an apartment
497
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:28.099
above the bar at the farmhouse at her brother's farmhouse.
498
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:32.160
She lives in, they drink, they do Coke together. You know,
499
00:28:32.299 --> 00:28:38.210
they're having a good time. Um, So by fall of 1992,
500
00:28:38.210 --> 00:28:41.230
here is the way it works. Wendy Marshall, the one
501
00:28:41.269 --> 00:28:45.920
he had a baby with, knows about Annette. Okay. Annette
502
00:28:45.980 --> 00:28:49.160
knows about Wendy Marshall as well. So they know about
503
00:28:49.220 --> 00:28:52.210
each other. Jody Hotz, the one he's living with and
504
00:28:52.250 --> 00:28:55.730
engaged to. had heard about both and sort of knew
505
00:28:55.769 --> 00:28:57.710
about both. So they all kind of know about each
506
00:28:57.750 --> 00:28:59.579
other at this point, which is not great.
507
00:28:59.619 --> 00:29:02.440
They should because he should be saying, I can't fuck
508
00:29:02.460 --> 00:29:05.599
yet because I just fucked in a house today.
509
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:09.140
I'm raw. I'm down to life. I fucked in a car.
510
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.140
I've taken two layers of skin off my penis and
511
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:13.490
I feel like I need to let it heal for
512
00:29:13.529 --> 00:29:19.269
a minute. Wow. That's a virile young man. 22-year-old. You
513
00:29:19.289 --> 00:29:21.789
know what I mean? That's what it's about. Does it
514
00:29:21.809 --> 00:29:24.700
ever stop? He's out and you're looking for everything. So
515
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:28.599
later on, an
investigator summed up Corey saying, quote, he
516
00:29:28.619 --> 00:29:30.680
was involved in drugs. He was involved with a lot
517
00:29:30.700 --> 00:29:33.390
of different women. And some of these women even knew
518
00:29:33.450 --> 00:29:37.329
about each other, but some of them didn't. Wild style life, babe.
519
00:29:37.490 --> 00:29:43.200
All right. October 12th, 1992. Annette here opens Wink's Tap
520
00:29:43.259 --> 00:29:45.960
that morning. She opens the bar. She works a shift
521
00:29:46.220 --> 00:29:49.920
and then stays the rest of the night. All day.
522
00:29:50.740 --> 00:29:54.700
All night. So her whole day is this bar. Yep. Now,
523
00:29:54.779 --> 00:29:56.940
Corey came in to work the evening shift, and Annette
524
00:29:56.980 --> 00:29:59.240
stayed at the bar while he worked, and he drank.
525
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:04.819
And basically she spent 14 hours inside this tavern that day. Now,
526
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:07.420
her plan was the bar's going to close at 2,
527
00:30:07.420 --> 00:30:10.900
and then they're going to go hang out together. She
528
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:14.779
tells people that they're going to move to Branson together
529
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:19.019
next week is what she's telling people. Really? Okay, yeah.
530
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.400
That's it. So she's thinking this is the last weekend
531
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:24.599
she's going to spend in Iowa. We're going to Branson.
532
00:30:25.349 --> 00:30:28.009
She said that they were going to take off the
533
00:30:28.049 --> 00:30:31.240
following weekend. And that they were going to look for
534
00:30:31.339 --> 00:30:33.480
bars for sale in Branson, Missouri.
535
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:34.460
Oh, yeah.
536
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:36.730
We're going to buy one. Yeah. She said, we had
537
00:30:36.789 --> 00:30:40.609
talked about skipping town. In fact, the following Monday, we
538
00:30:40.630 --> 00:30:43.349
were supposed to go or Saturday. I'm sorry. We were
539
00:30:43.369 --> 00:30:45.730
supposed to go to Branson to look at bars for sale.
540
00:30:46.190 --> 00:30:49.829
I love Corey deeply. I really, truly did. I didn't
541
00:30:49.869 --> 00:30:52.390
think it was going to last. To be perfectly honest,
542
00:30:52.410 --> 00:30:54.549
he was so much younger than me and he slept
543
00:30:54.589 --> 00:30:57.170
with anything that walked through the door. He wasn't for
544
00:30:57.309 --> 00:31:02.039
one person. No, a 22-year-old bartender is not the guy
545
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.980
to marry. I'll tell you that right now. It's just not,
546
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:06.119
you know.
547
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.500
I just, I still don't understand a 22-year-old fresh out
548
00:31:09.539 --> 00:31:11.160
of college with a degree.
549
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:12.980
I don't think that's the person to marry. I don't
550
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:15.789
think you should be getting married until you're after 30.
551
00:31:15.789 --> 00:31:17.250
It's just, it's, you.
552
00:31:17.069 --> 00:31:19.970
Don't, I assure you, you don't know who you are.
553
00:31:20.230 --> 00:31:21.910
And you sure as fuck shouldn't be having kids until
554
00:31:21.930 --> 00:31:24.839
you're after 30. I'll tell you that much. No. So,
555
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.619
I mean, you can. I did. We both did. So
556
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:29.880
this isn't like a, we're not judging anybody. This is
557
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.140
more of a, from our experience, it's easier if you
558
00:31:33.180 --> 00:31:34.900
were over 30. Just put it that way.
559
00:31:34.910 --> 00:31:38.130
I was barely not 30, but I was still not 30.
560
00:31:38.130 --> 00:31:40.890
Yeah, not 30. Well, shit, you were in your mid-20s
561
00:31:40.910 --> 00:31:44.049
when your son was born. Were you 26? Your son's 18. Yes,
562
00:31:45.509 --> 00:31:52.829
you're 45. 28. I was 28 when he was born.
563
00:31:52.890 --> 00:31:53.430
All right. Yeah.
564
00:31:53.509 --> 00:31:56.609
I was like, that's okay. Wait, was I 27? I
565
00:31:56.650 --> 00:32:00.029
think you were 27 probably. And I, yeah, I was
566
00:32:00.029 --> 00:32:02.430
23 when my daughter was born. Yeah. Which was way
567
00:32:02.450 --> 00:32:05.390
too young. Yeah, I must've been 27. Cause that's 18. Yeah.
568
00:32:05.509 --> 00:32:08.210
He's 18. I know that. I was 23 and 28
569
00:32:08.210 --> 00:32:10.480
when my kids were born and you were like 27
570
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:14.700
and 30, I think. So yeah, it's, yeah, that's exactly
571
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:15.880
what it was. I know I was 30 when she
572
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:21.140
was born. I know that for sure. Yeah. So Corey, um, Apparently,
573
00:32:21.380 --> 00:32:24.109
the whole evening, Corey's treating her kind of shittily in
574
00:32:24.150 --> 00:32:29.250
the bar, basically. Late evening, October 12th, Annette is tanked.
575
00:32:29.490 --> 00:32:33.650
She's fucking hammered, everybody says. Multiple people. After work. Yeah,
576
00:32:33.690 --> 00:32:35.589
she's been in the bar since it opened. So, yeah,
577
00:32:35.650 --> 00:32:40.130
she's shit-faced. At some point before the closing of the bar,
578
00:32:40.190 --> 00:32:43.170
she left the bar. But she didn't go home. She
579
00:32:43.210 --> 00:32:46.109
went out to Corey's Cadillac, opened the passenger door, and
580
00:32:46.130 --> 00:32:48.890
just sat there and waited in the car for him.
581
00:32:48.910 --> 00:32:48.990
Okay.
582
00:32:49.009 --> 00:32:52.390
Okay. Um, so October 12th, this is the same night. Well,
583
00:32:52.430 --> 00:32:55.009
same night now, 2 a.m. So technically the 13th, but
584
00:32:55.089 --> 00:32:58.680
that night. Um, okay. The bar closes. Corey comes out
585
00:32:58.700 --> 00:33:01.140
of the bar with Wendy Marshall with them, the mother
586
00:33:01.180 --> 00:33:05.109
of his child. Yeah. Okay. Now, Wendy was going to,
587
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:08.269
they're leaving the bar together. They get to the car
588
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.809
and there is fucking Annette sitting in the passenger seat. Now,
589
00:33:11.849 --> 00:33:13.769
luckily they all know about each other. So it's a
590
00:33:13.809 --> 00:33:16.349
little less awkward than it might've been. It's not who's
591
00:33:16.390 --> 00:33:20.049
this bitch. It's, oh, this bitch, which is better. Yeah,
592
00:33:20.069 --> 00:33:23.880
it's better than who she wouldn't leave. And that's it.
593
00:33:23.890 --> 00:33:29.250
I'm not getting out. So Corey says, OK, let's get in.
594
00:33:29.250 --> 00:33:31.799
When do you get in? We'll drive in at home
595
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:35.279
first and then we'll do our thing. OK, so they're driving.
596
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:38.900
They go down. Apparently, Annette said she was incredibly mad
597
00:33:38.940 --> 00:33:41.740
at this point. Super pissed. OK, because she thinks they're
598
00:33:41.779 --> 00:33:44.710
running away together. So they drive down the road a
599
00:33:44.730 --> 00:33:47.509
little bit. Annette reaches for the door handle, and she's
600
00:33:47.829 --> 00:33:50.990
acting like she's jumping out of the car while it's moving. Oh, boy. Like,
601
00:33:51.029 --> 00:33:54.009
I'm done here. So Corey stops the car. They get
602
00:33:54.170 --> 00:33:56.569
out on the side of some farm road in Iowa
603
00:33:56.609 --> 00:33:58.670
somewhere in the middle of the night and have a
604
00:33:58.730 --> 00:34:01.430
fucking screaming match with each other while Wendy sits in
605
00:34:01.450 --> 00:34:07.640
the back seat, which is even funnier. Okay. So they
606
00:34:07.660 --> 00:34:10.440
get done arguing. They get back in the car. Corey
607
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:13.400
then drives Wendy Marshall back to her car, which is
608
00:34:13.460 --> 00:34:18.719
parked at Wink's Tap. And he tells, Annette's there too,
609
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:20.960
and he tells Wendy, I will come to your house
610
00:34:21.059 --> 00:34:22.980
after I drop Annette off. I'm going to drop Annette
611
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:23.420
off quick.
612
00:34:23.500 --> 00:34:23.800
Okay.
613
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:28.139
So Corey drives Annette to the farmhouse where she lives,
614
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:33.239
the Hazen farmhouse with her brother. Um, by Annette's description,
615
00:34:33.340 --> 00:34:36.030
she said, quote, we argued, got back in the car,
616
00:34:36.340 --> 00:34:39.309
took that girl, whoever she was. She had a child
617
00:34:39.369 --> 00:34:43.050
by Corey. That's who she was. You fucking know who
618
00:34:43.090 --> 00:34:45.869
she is too. You know her name. It's just, there's
619
00:34:45.869 --> 00:34:46.610
3000 people. Yeah.
620
00:34:47.250 --> 00:34:50.590
You just gave a very specific fact about her that
621
00:34:51.030 --> 00:34:52.489
makes it why being in his.
622
00:34:52.489 --> 00:34:57.510
Car is fine. Whoever she was random. Um, Dropped her
623
00:34:57.610 --> 00:35:00.010
off somewhere, drove back to the farm, and we had
624
00:35:00.130 --> 00:35:03.570
sex that night. I think it was angry sex. So
625
00:35:03.590 --> 00:35:05.800
they have angry farmhouse sex after that.
626
00:35:05.860 --> 00:35:11.440
He fucked a 14-hour post-14-hour shift drunk lady.
627
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:14.920
He's like, that ought to shut her up. There, take that.
628
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:19.460
Take that. So about 3, 4 a.m., he leaves the farmhouse.
629
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.159
Still doesn't go to get Wendy or go where his...
630
00:35:23.070 --> 00:35:26.409
Fiance is sleeping at his house. He instead then finds
631
00:35:26.489 --> 00:35:30.550
an after-hours birthday party for his friend. These people party
632
00:35:30.610 --> 00:35:32.630
in the middle of the night in Iowa, man. This
633
00:35:32.690 --> 00:35:36.320
is awesome. That's a level of partying I'm incapable of.
634
00:35:36.929 --> 00:35:40.840
That's wild. These days, yeah. He meets up with Slim
635
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.079
Zamora at the party, too. He's there, one of his
636
00:35:43.099 --> 00:35:46.119
drug guys. Then he went to Wendy Marshall's apartment, as
637
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:49.320
he promised, about 4 o'clock in the morning, woke her up,
638
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:53.619
which I'm sure she was thrilled about, With pussy on
639
00:35:53.659 --> 00:35:56.440
his breath. That's what you want. Pussy on his breath
640
00:35:56.480 --> 00:36:01.239
and coke on his face. They talked. He didn't stay long.
641
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:04.699
He left. Before he leaves, he puts a brown paper
642
00:36:04.739 --> 00:36:07.909
bag in her refrigerator. Inside the bag is a six-pack
643
00:36:07.949 --> 00:36:11.579
of beer and two shotgun shells. which I think just
644
00:36:11.659 --> 00:36:15.050
comes with a six-pack in Iowa. I'm not sure. Empty
645
00:36:15.179 --> 00:36:17.820
ones are, like, ready to be shot. No, no, no.
646
00:36:17.929 --> 00:36:22.309
Just ready to be shot. Unfired. Unfired shotgun shells with beer,
647
00:36:22.510 --> 00:36:24.550
all in the paper bag, put in the refrigerator for
648
00:36:24.590 --> 00:36:28.889
some reason. A couple of Winchesters. We never figure out
649
00:36:29.030 --> 00:36:31.469
why he has two shotgun shells in the refrigerator, by
650
00:36:31.489 --> 00:36:33.989
the way. That is the mystery of this entire story. Well,
651
00:36:34.050 --> 00:36:37.449
one of them. Okay. By 7 a.m., he gets home,
652
00:36:37.690 --> 00:36:40.630
lets himself in, gets in bed, and falls asleep next
653
00:36:40.650 --> 00:36:43.460
to his fiancée, who's waking up because she has to
654
00:36:43.500 --> 00:36:47.159
go to work at the bank. Holy. Now, during about
655
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.420
this same time, four or five miles away, a guy
656
00:36:50.460 --> 00:36:53.769
named Lester McGowan pulls up and picks up Annette, okay?
657
00:36:54.409 --> 00:36:57.449
She slept for like two
hours, and she got in
658
00:36:57.510 --> 00:37:00.550
his truck and drove away. They drove to a roofing
659
00:37:00.630 --> 00:37:04.230
job site in West Liberty where Lester McGowan ran a
660
00:37:04.269 --> 00:37:06.849
roofing crew. By the way, he used to fuck Annette too.
661
00:37:07.050 --> 00:37:10.170
They used to have a relationship. This morning he picks
662
00:37:10.210 --> 00:37:13.449
her up and he takes her to do roofing work
663
00:37:13.550 --> 00:37:16.869
today for some reason. She just worked 14 hours. Well,
664
00:37:16.929 --> 00:37:19.269
work is a– yeah, she just drank and she did
665
00:37:19.309 --> 00:37:22.150
a lot. She's drank and filled cups for a while.
666
00:37:22.530 --> 00:37:24.469
This is the only day in her life that she's
667
00:37:24.489 --> 00:37:26.849
a roofer and she's a roofer today for some reason.
668
00:37:26.889 --> 00:37:29.860
She tears some shingles off a roof. Um, by the way,
669
00:37:29.940 --> 00:37:33.019
Lester was married to a woman named Cynthia, but his
670
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:38.889
affair with Annette destroyed his marriage. So yeah. Okay. Well done. Now,
671
00:37:38.889 --> 00:37:44.090
8 a.m. Jody, Corey's fiance gets up, gets ready, takes off, uh,
672
00:37:44.250 --> 00:37:47.349
for the bank in Iowa city. All right. 830 to
673
00:37:47.349 --> 00:37:52.840
930 a.m. Annette's at the job site. Um, He was
674
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.400
surprised to see a woman that he didn't know arrive
675
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.449
to start doing roofing work. All the people like, who
676
00:37:58.469 --> 00:38:00.289
the fuck is this chick? Is she on our crew now?
677
00:38:00.889 --> 00:38:04.610
We're the guys in work boots. Yeah. So this guy
678
00:38:04.630 --> 00:38:07.809
was told teacher had to tear off a roof. She
679
00:38:07.829 --> 00:38:11.409
didn't know what she was doing. And basically, they said
680
00:38:11.429 --> 00:38:12.929
she spent about an hour and a half doing a
681
00:38:12.989 --> 00:38:15.190
shitty job of pulling shingles off a house. And then
682
00:38:15.230 --> 00:38:19.559
that was it for that. Now, about 9 a.m. A
683
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:23.940
local farmer drives down the gravel road that Corey and
684
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:27.679
Jody live on, passing their house on his way into
685
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.369
West Liberty. He sees two people standing outside Jody and
686
00:38:31.409 --> 00:38:35.190
Corey's house next to a stopped vehicle, doesn't recognize either
687
00:38:35.269 --> 00:38:37.150
one of them, and doesn't really stare or anything. He
688
00:38:37.170 --> 00:38:39.630
just sees notes, two people, I don't know, and doesn't
689
00:38:39.650 --> 00:38:44.170
really get a good look. About 9.30, 10 a.m., something
690
00:38:44.210 --> 00:38:48.679
like that, Jacques arrives in her car, old Jacques A.
691
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.420
After discovering a new crab today.
692
00:38:54.380 --> 00:38:57.539
Pulls up at the roofing job
site. Annette gets in
693
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.179
and takes off. So she had her pick her up there.
694
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:04.010
Jacques and Annette. This is according to Jacques and Annette,
695
00:39:04.570 --> 00:39:08.230
Jackie and Annette. They stopped by Corey's place on the
696
00:39:08.269 --> 00:39:11.929
way to Iowa City. Now, Jackie said Annette wanted to
697
00:39:11.969 --> 00:39:14.250
drop off a letter she had written or a book
698
00:39:14.309 --> 00:39:17.920
about something. Annette said she knocked on the door. Nobody answered.
699
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:22.219
They left. They were there two minutes tops. Okay. Farmer.
700
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:24.389
Remember that farmer who drove into Les Liberty? Well, now
701
00:39:24.409 --> 00:39:27.309
he's driving back up the road, Gravel Road. He didn't
702
00:39:27.329 --> 00:39:30.079
see anybody outside the house this time. But about, a
703
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:33.019
half mile further along on the north edge of the road,
704
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:38.480
he saw an aluminum softball bat lying in the gravel. Oh. Okay.
705
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:41.480
It had not been there that morning. Oh. So all
706
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:44.159
of a sudden there's a bat there. He didn't stop, though.
707
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.570
He just remembered, oh, look, there's a bat. And maybe
708
00:39:46.590 --> 00:39:50.769
some kid dropped it. Who knows? Now, midday. In Iowa City.
709
00:39:51.550 --> 00:39:53.909
Annette and Jackie spent the middle of the day in
710
00:39:54.010 --> 00:39:57.510
Iowa City, about a half hour away. Jackie had a
711
00:39:57.550 --> 00:40:01.010
doctor's appointment for a knee problem and all this type
712
00:40:01.050 --> 00:40:04.369
of thing. Then after that, they went shopping, had various
713
00:40:05.110 --> 00:40:10.110
transactions around town. She did a three-day typewriter rental. Oh,
714
00:40:10.449 --> 00:40:12.250
I don't think that's been done in a long time.
715
00:40:12.590 --> 00:40:15.250
Three days? I'm going to rent a typewriter. It's a
716
00:40:15.269 --> 00:40:19.269
long time. Look, I got a novel in me. I
717
00:40:19.309 --> 00:40:20.969
just got to flesh it out. Flesh it out?
718
00:40:21.210 --> 00:40:21.889
I got to get it out.
719
00:40:22.090 --> 00:40:25.289
Yeah. Three days.
720
00:40:25.289 --> 00:40:27.190
72 hours with this typewriter is all I need.
721
00:40:27.210 --> 00:40:29.829
That should do it. I have a screenplay burning a
722
00:40:29.869 --> 00:40:31.550
hole in my fingertips. I need to get it out.
723
00:40:32.150 --> 00:40:34.610
I know I can get it out. Lightning speed. You
724
00:40:34.630 --> 00:40:37.800
can do it. Got lightning in these hands. I can
725
00:40:37.820 --> 00:40:40.940
do it. So they do the whole day. They have
726
00:40:41.260 --> 00:40:46.239
one receipt. time-stamped 125 or 145. It's not been established.
727
00:40:46.340 --> 00:40:49.449
So they're in Iowa City at that point. The knee
728
00:40:49.699 --> 00:40:52.469
for Jackie turned out to just be pulled muscles, and
729
00:40:52.530 --> 00:40:55.449
she ended up going shopping at multiple locations in Iowa
730
00:40:55.469 --> 00:41:00.309
City that afternoon. But Annette was doing the driving because
731
00:41:00.530 --> 00:41:04.369
it's her gas pedal knee that hurts. Okay. In the afternoon,
732
00:41:04.429 --> 00:41:07.230
Annette and Jackie drove back from Iowa City, they said,
733
00:41:07.309 --> 00:41:09.530
to be at the farmhouse when her children got home
734
00:41:09.570 --> 00:41:14.219
from school. Annette also described driving past Corey's area on
735
00:41:14.260 --> 00:41:17.139
a parallel road about a mile away, but didn't stop.
736
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:20.719
Then they stopped in town and called the house from
737
00:41:20.780 --> 00:41:22.380
a pay phone to try to reach him, but he
738
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:27.159
didn't answer. Okay. Six o'clock PM. Jody gets home from
739
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:31.559
the bank. Um, Right away, shit is awry for her.
740
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:35.000
The dog, they have a golden retriever, I believe, or
741
00:41:35.019 --> 00:41:37.960
a lab. I'm not sure which one. The dog's outside
742
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:41.079
and off her leash, off her chain. So that's not normal.
743
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:45.349
The screen door is open to the house also. And
744
00:41:45.429 --> 00:41:49.670
Corey's Cadillac is in the driveway, which he was supposed
745
00:41:49.690 --> 00:41:52.449
to be at work two hours ago. Oh. So she's like,
746
00:41:52.469 --> 00:41:55.050
what's going on here? So she walks into the house.
747
00:41:55.110 --> 00:41:57.420
It's a small house. It's just ridiculous. you know, one
748
00:41:57.460 --> 00:41:59.809
of those tiny houses. So she walks into the bedroom
749
00:42:00.469 --> 00:42:03.750
and she sees Jerry. She sees Corey. He is lying
750
00:42:03.889 --> 00:42:06.489
face down on the carpeted floor next to the bed
751
00:42:06.550 --> 00:42:09.510
and his underwear with his face turned toward the bed.
752
00:42:09.590 --> 00:42:11.880
And she couldn't see it. She couldn't see his face.
753
00:42:12.429 --> 00:42:14.440
She said, I couldn't see his face. His face was
754
00:42:14.500 --> 00:42:16.860
turned toward the, toward the bed, but I could see
755
00:42:16.900 --> 00:42:20.739
the rest of him. There was blood. She said, I
756
00:42:20.820 --> 00:42:24.289
touched him and said his name. And of course, nothing. Oh,
757
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:26.989
So she calls 911. She said, I need someone to
758
00:42:27.030 --> 00:42:29.070
come out to my house. I think my fiance is dead.
759
00:42:29.469 --> 00:42:32.030
They said, okay. She said, he's all bloody and he's
760
00:42:32.070 --> 00:42:35.769
not breathing and he's cold. Oh my God. So she said,
761
00:42:35.809 --> 00:42:37.829
he's on his, she's on the, he's on the side
762
00:42:37.869 --> 00:42:39.539
of the bed. There's a lot of blood around it.
763
00:42:39.579 --> 00:42:42.079
It looks like he's been beat pretty bad. And they said,
764
00:42:42.179 --> 00:42:45.719
is he dead? Which she's been saying over and over.
765
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.619
He seems dead. She said, yeah, pretty much, which is the,
766
00:42:51.179 --> 00:42:53.030
I don't know how to, I mean, you're in a
767
00:42:53.030 --> 00:42:54.619
weird spot. I don't know how you answer that. But, yeah,
768
00:42:54.659 --> 00:42:56.860
pretty much is a real weird way to say that. Okay.
769
00:42:57.460 --> 00:42:58.760
I feel bad.
770
00:42:58.820 --> 00:43:02.340
Pretty much is a weird thing to say after any question.
771
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:05.840
Especially something super final. You know what I mean? Like
772
00:43:05.860 --> 00:43:07.659
if someone goes, did you get enough to eat? You go, yeah,
773
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:09.920
pretty much. Yeah, I mean, I might get some dessert
774
00:43:09.940 --> 00:43:12.440
or something. But I'm pretty good. But dead is dead
775
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.920
or not. That's it. There's not a lot of. He's
776
00:43:15.980 --> 00:43:19.809
cold and he's dead, she says. So police arrive. And
777
00:43:19.909 --> 00:43:22.429
the first officer said, you could immediately tell this was
778
00:43:22.489 --> 00:43:25.550
blunt force trauma type of crime. And the beating had
779
00:43:25.610 --> 00:43:28.989
taken place. He had injuries to his back, obvious bloody
780
00:43:29.050 --> 00:43:31.170
injury to the back of his head. There's quite a
781
00:43:31.190 --> 00:43:33.199
bit of blood on the bed, blood spattered on the
782
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:35.320
wall and on the side of the bed. And of course,
783
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:38.519
on the floor where he'd been laying all over. They
784
00:43:38.539 --> 00:43:42.440
said right away, the one detective said the house wasn't burglarized.
785
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.340
There wasn't chairs or tables overturned. So I think the
786
00:43:45.409 --> 00:43:50.099
motive was very specific and was there to do harm. So,
787
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:55.119
nothing's missing. Nothing's disturbed. Jody or the cops, nobody can
788
00:43:55.179 --> 00:43:57.869
find a single item missing from the house. Nothing. Really?
789
00:43:58.210 --> 00:44:02.429
Not a dollar. They looked for fingerprints. Nothing. Footprints. Who gots?
790
00:44:02.570 --> 00:44:06.230
Tire impressions in the gravel in the yard. Not a thing.
791
00:44:06.250 --> 00:44:08.750
Not a goddamn thing. Not a goddamn thing. They said
792
00:44:08.769 --> 00:44:12.989
the scene yielded very little helpful evidence. Now, also, it's 1992, so.
793
00:44:15.449 --> 00:44:17.309
Evidence you need like a puddle of blood or a
794
00:44:17.329 --> 00:44:19.130
clump of hair. This isn't like, oh, we can do
795
00:44:19.170 --> 00:44:22.429
some touch DNA stuff and figure out. It's totally different.
796
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:26.820
So what they think happened here is
about 10, somewhere
797
00:44:26.860 --> 00:44:30.360
between 10 a.m. and 1.30 p.m. is the murder window here.
798
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:35.099
Somewhere in there. Someone walked into the house. There's no
799
00:44:35.179 --> 00:44:38.739
forced entry, but you could like push your way through
800
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:41.039
the house. They said near the doorknob there was a
801
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:43.320
pane of glass missing that had been covered by a
802
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:45.219
piece of particle board. So you could usually just open
803
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:48.809
the door if you wanted to. After the murder, too,
804
00:44:48.849 --> 00:44:51.809
the particle board was found removed and sitting alongside the house.
805
00:44:51.849 --> 00:44:55.230
So somebody just opened the door. Somebody pulled that out. Yeah.
806
00:44:55.369 --> 00:44:56.280
It was just like leaned up.
807
00:44:57.150 --> 00:44:57.369
Yeah.
808
00:44:57.469 --> 00:45:00.170
So they said he must have been in his bed.
809
00:45:00.610 --> 00:45:03.559
asleep or close to it, the first blow landed on
810
00:45:03.579 --> 00:45:06.579
the back of his head. The forensic evidence, the blood
811
00:45:06.619 --> 00:45:08.780
on the bed, position of the body, the bedding still
812
00:45:08.820 --> 00:45:11.239
wrapped around his legs, indicates he was struck while he
813
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:14.179
was still in bed and that he rolled or fell
814
00:45:14.659 --> 00:45:18.780
to the carpeted floor beside it. Okay. He was hit
815
00:45:18.780 --> 00:45:24.159
13 times. Wow. Head, back, shoulders. Four of the blows
816
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:26.260
were to the head. One of them split the back
817
00:45:26.300 --> 00:45:30.809
of his skull open in a large H-shaped laceration. Oh, fuck.
818
00:45:31.230 --> 00:45:34.420
They said that was the fatal one. They said that
819
00:45:34.739 --> 00:45:37.460
the other 12 injuries were inflicted before death. And that
820
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.070
was the coup de grace there at the end there.
821
00:45:40.190 --> 00:45:43.090
No bruises on his hands or forearm. So there's no
822
00:45:43.429 --> 00:45:48.429
defensive wounds. This happened. Caught him asleep. He's 225 pounds,
823
00:45:48.469 --> 00:45:51.510
been in fights before. He's a bartender. He's played football,
824
00:45:51.969 --> 00:45:55.050
played on the offensive line. He's a rough– he could
825
00:45:55.110 --> 00:45:57.969
definitely at least make an effort to fight you off
826
00:45:58.070 --> 00:46:01.349
for sure. And it's a golden lab, the dog, by
827
00:46:01.389 --> 00:46:03.989
the way, and it's known as being pretty protective as well.
828
00:46:04.829 --> 00:46:06.590
They said this isn't a dog that if you come
829
00:46:06.630 --> 00:46:08.050
in the house and it doesn't know you, it's not
830
00:46:08.070 --> 00:46:09.510
going to let you in. It's going to bark at you.
831
00:46:10.070 --> 00:46:11.239
It's going to try to bite you. It's going to
832
00:46:11.260 --> 00:46:13.860
keep you out. They said this was– the dog was
833
00:46:13.900 --> 00:46:17.679
let outside and unchained at some point. So that's odd.
834
00:46:18.539 --> 00:46:22.980
So that evening, Annette goes to work at Winx, and
835
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:26.019
they say, she and Jackie both say that's when they
836
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:28.110
learned Corey was dead from the people at the bar.
837
00:46:28.619 --> 00:46:33.630
That's how she heard. And that's that. So they got
838
00:46:33.670 --> 00:46:36.530
into the car, Jackie and Annette, and drove to the
839
00:46:36.590 --> 00:46:40.849
police station to volunteer a full account of their day.
840
00:46:41.030 --> 00:46:42.769
This is what we did yesterday, just so you know,
841
00:46:42.809 --> 00:46:45.190
we didn't do it. It's kind of a strange thing
842
00:46:45.230 --> 00:46:51.150
to do. Preemptively. Real weird. So Wednesday morning, October 14th here,
843
00:46:51.949 --> 00:46:54.670
the officers still have a section of the gravel road
844
00:46:54.690 --> 00:46:58.880
that Corey and Jody live on blocked off overnight. OK,
845
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:01.840
because this is the next day. There's a news crew
846
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:05.079
out there from Cedar Rapids. Rapids came all the way
847
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:08.900
over here. This reporter named Mike Wagner was trying to
848
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:11.760
get his car started on this road and couldn't. So
849
00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:14.469
he decided to walk up the gravel road toward the residence.
850
00:47:15.050 --> 00:47:18.170
So he does. And about a quarter mile east of
851
00:47:18.210 --> 00:47:22.289
the house, he said, and we never know exactly where
852
00:47:22.329 --> 00:47:23.789
it is, but he said he looked down at the
853
00:47:23.849 --> 00:47:25.909
north edge of the road and saw a metal bat.
854
00:47:26.909 --> 00:47:29.889
He went and told the cops who came and looked
855
00:47:29.989 --> 00:47:33.349
at it here. The bat had white tape wrapped around
856
00:47:33.389 --> 00:47:35.730
the handle. It's an aluminum bat. It's a blue aluminum
857
00:47:35.769 --> 00:47:39.840
bat stamped on it the words Power Flight Heavyweight. You know,
858
00:47:39.860 --> 00:47:43.460
aluminum bats. The white lettering had what appeared to be
859
00:47:43.500 --> 00:47:48.570
bloodstains on it. It's a youth-sized aluminum softball bat is
860
00:47:48.610 --> 00:47:52.150
what it is. Still has a barcode sticker affixed to
861
00:47:52.190 --> 00:47:55.139
it as well without the corners being torn off or anything.
862
00:47:55.179 --> 00:47:59.119
It's pretty new. They later confirmed the bat had been
863
00:47:59.139 --> 00:48:04.280
purchased at Walmart. That particular blue had shipped to the
864
00:48:04.420 --> 00:48:07.280
area a year before this, but it could have been
865
00:48:07.300 --> 00:48:10.199
left over from the previous year's inventory. They didn't have
866
00:48:10.219 -->
00:48:12.099
everything on computer back then where they could go, oh, yeah,
867
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.510
that came from here and it's that. But it's a
868
00:48:15.510 --> 00:48:22.570
$ 15 softball bat. It had been bought on sale for $ 13.
869
00:48:20.730 --> 00:48:23.429
Imagine that.
870
00:48:23.429 --> 00:48:28.340
$ 13 murder weapon. $ 13. Pretty efficient. That's crazy. So there's
871
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:30.920
a criminologist that takes the bat off the road. And actually,
872
00:48:30.940 --> 00:48:33.800
we have the exact picture of this, too, here. Also
873
00:48:34.139 --> 00:48:38.719
in that picture is the Muscatine County Sheriff, Ron Hazen,
874
00:48:39.059 --> 00:48:43.659
who happens to be Annette's uncle. Oh, my. This is
875
00:48:43.699 --> 00:48:49.130
a small town, man. So that's crazy, right? Yeah. So
876
00:48:49.309 --> 00:48:53.280
the bat goes to the state crime lab. They put it,
877
00:48:53.949 --> 00:48:55.849
you know, they do the super glue fumes and all
878
00:48:55.869 --> 00:48:58.300
that to try to figure out what's going on. The
879
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:01.820
fumes adhere to shit. It's the Beverly Hills Cop 2.
880
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:04.739
Remember that? Yeah. In the fish tank or the turtle
881
00:49:04.780 --> 00:49:06.019
tank with the, yeah, same thing.
882
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.179
Put it in the bucket and put some super glue
883
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:10.110
and get it real hot and you'll see fingerprints.
884
00:49:10.150 --> 00:49:13.010
That's it. So there's no fingerprints on the bat, none.
885
00:49:13.210 --> 00:49:17.190
No fingerprints at all, they found. Which, I mean, there's
886
00:49:17.250 --> 00:49:20.590
tape around the handle part. Yeah. I'd wear gloves if
887
00:49:20.659 --> 00:49:21.880
I was going to do this, probably.
888
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:25.260
But it's probably that, for sure, yeah. But it's probably
889
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:28.659
that sport tape that fucking holds shit.
890
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:31.219
You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Get yourself a
891
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:34.199
batting glove. Get a Franklin. You'll be fine. A Mizuno.
892
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.409
You'll slap it on. I'll keep it clean, yeah. Now,
893
00:49:37.449 --> 00:49:41.519
the blood testing capability in 1992 in rural Iowa is
894
00:49:41.980 --> 00:49:44.619
blood type. That's it. That's all they got. Yeah. There
895
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.460
is DNA that happens, but it doesn't happen around here
896
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:50.300
quite yet. So, yeah. The blood on the bat was
897
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:53.909
the same type as Corey's. And, by the way, Jody
898
00:49:53.949 --> 00:49:57.230
said neither she nor Corey owned any bat of any kind. So,
899
00:49:57.250 --> 00:50:02.070
it didn't come from the house. Okay. So, people... Obviously,
900
00:50:02.090 --> 00:50:05.309
there's a ton of people saying this sucks. We like Corey.
901
00:50:05.329 --> 00:50:07.409
He's a good guy. There are a few people, though,
902
00:50:07.489 --> 00:50:10.769
talking about how sometimes he rubbed people the wrong way,
903
00:50:10.969 --> 00:50:12.550
and there's a lot of people that might have wanted
904
00:50:12.570 --> 00:50:16.309
to kill him. One person, a family friend, said he
905
00:50:16.329 --> 00:50:18.469
had a foul mouth, and a lot of people didn't
906
00:50:18.510 --> 00:50:22.280
like him around town on that account. They said he
907
00:50:22.300 --> 00:50:24.659
was generally a good kid, but people got mad at
908
00:50:24.699 --> 00:50:27.900
his foul mouth. A neighbor who knew him a long
909
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:31.190
time said that sometimes Corey would say things that made
910
00:50:31.230 --> 00:50:34.300
people angry and it was never the type of thing
911
00:50:34.340 --> 00:50:36.420
that would cause someone to want to kill him probably.
912
00:50:37.619 --> 00:50:39.659
He said he was a pretty nice guy. He had
913
00:50:39.699 --> 00:50:42.289
problems once in a while, but everybody does. He wouldn't
914
00:50:42.309 --> 00:50:45.849
hurt a flea. And then he goes on to– a flea.
915
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:50.150
This town's devastated. I'm still not thinking straight, the guy says.
916
00:50:50.329 --> 00:50:52.010
I could have come up with a better analogy. I
917
00:50:52.030 --> 00:50:55.130
just said a flea. I don't know. I'm sorry. It's
918
00:50:55.190 --> 00:50:58.610
usually a fly, but I go with fleas. I'm so distracted, honestly,
919
00:50:58.650 --> 00:50:59.329
by this whole thing.
920
00:51:00.030 --> 00:51:01.739
When's the last time you even saw a flea to
921
00:51:01.780 --> 00:51:02.030
hurt it?
922
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.619
You know what I'm saying? We've pretty much rid the
923
00:51:04.659 --> 00:51:06.860
fleas out of here. The collars and the sprays, it's
924
00:51:06.940 --> 00:51:12.719
all gone. Somebody's been hurting fleas. Somebody's been up to something.
925
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.820
So now here are the theories. There's fleas. Basically four theories.
926
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:21.039
Maybe drugs. Maybe he owed people money. That's possible. They
927
00:51:21.059 --> 00:51:23.840
looked at Slim, who had partied with Corey. Oh, Slim Z.
928
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:26.239
That didn't work out. Maybe gambling. He was running a
929
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:29.619
little book out of the bar. That's possible. No, not
930
00:51:29.659 --> 00:51:33.320
really there. Maybe a bar fight that escalated. Maybe he
931
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.269
got in a beef with somebody earlier in the night
932
00:51:35.329 --> 00:51:37.989
and they were seeking revenge or some shit. But they
933
00:51:38.030 --> 00:51:41.730
said nothing really happened that night or even close to that.
934
00:51:42.469 --> 00:51:45.389
Maybe it's a woman or a woman's husband, they thought possibly,
935
00:51:45.409 --> 00:51:49.329
because he's banging everybody. One investigator said, you usually start
936
00:51:49.349 --> 00:51:52.110
with the spouse or boyfriend, girlfriend, whoever it is, and
937
00:51:52.130 --> 00:51:54.150
then you work it out. With Corey, it's a bit
938
00:51:54.190 --> 00:51:57.230
more difficult because he had more than one relationship going on.
939
00:51:57.610 --> 00:51:59.469
Some of these women that he was having sex with
940
00:51:59.510 --> 00:52:02.159
had boyfriends, had husbands. That made it a bit harder
941
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:07.000
than normal. That's crazy. One thing that bothered him here,
942
00:52:07.019 --> 00:52:09.260
he said, Corey was a strong young man, and for
943
00:52:09.300 --> 00:52:12.800
that type of crime, to have committed it, I think
944
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:15.619
a lot of people scratching their heads asking for one,
945
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:17.969
who could have done this? And for two, how could
946
00:52:17.989 --> 00:52:19.989
they have pulled it off? Because it did not appear
947
00:52:20.010 --> 00:52:22.210
that Corey had fought back. Well, they walked in and
948
00:52:22.250 --> 00:52:25.530
found him sleeping. Beat his skull in. That's pretty easy.
949
00:52:26.469 --> 00:52:29.949
They believe that he knew the killer, though, because of
950
00:52:30.010 --> 00:52:34.099
the dog, the way the dog was allowed. The dog's
951
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.460
response to the person. Yeah. If he was barking, barking,
952
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:39.849
that would have probably woke Corey up. And it would
953
00:52:39.869 --> 00:52:44.239
have been a different story. So now the suspects, first
954
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.800
of all, he lives with Jody. So she's suspect one. Bingo.
955
00:52:48.019 --> 00:52:50.659
She has a total alibi. She's been at the bank
956
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:54.780
the entire day. And he was dead forensically well after
957
00:52:54.820 --> 00:52:59.250
she left. So couldn't have been. Bob Morrison now. Remember
958
00:52:59.289 --> 00:53:03.889
Missy's husband? Bob, they called him a workaholic who did
959
00:53:03.969 --> 00:53:08.940
tons and tons of overtime. He took Tuesday, October 13th off,
960
00:53:09.059 --> 00:53:12.079
which is the day after the murder– the day of
961
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:16.480
the murder essentially. They said that he's a powerfully built
962
00:53:16.539 --> 00:53:19.360
man and was about the right height to have committed
963
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:23.110
the homicide based on some forensic shit and some spatter
964
00:53:23.289 --> 00:53:26.269
shit they were talking about. They also say that people
965
00:53:26.309 --> 00:53:30.510
said he was quick-tempered and known for his, quote, remorseless
966
00:53:30.610 --> 00:53:34.840
abuse of both animals and his wife. Okay, so it's
967
00:53:35.019 --> 00:53:35.639
capable of anything.
968
00:53:35.659 --> 00:53:37.260
Even if he didn't do this, let's keep an eye
969
00:53:37.300 --> 00:53:38.070
on him for a while.
970
00:53:38.090 --> 00:53:39.909
I was going to say,
we should probably just put
971
00:53:39.929 --> 00:53:41.949
a car on him anyway and then work from there.
972
00:53:43.110 --> 00:53:46.230
Let's follow him around here. God, we are so far. Shit,
973
00:53:46.250 --> 00:53:47.889
I don't know how we're going to do this in time. Okay,
974
00:53:49.030 --> 00:53:52.250
Annette then. Remember Annette? Remember last time we left off
975
00:53:52.289 --> 00:53:53.610
with her? She was on the way to the police
976
00:53:53.650 --> 00:53:58.280
station here. She showed up. They walked into the police station,
977
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:01.940
and one investigator said it did seem a little strange
978
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.300
that she'd come up with all this stuff and that
979
00:54:04.340 --> 00:54:06.980
she wanted to present it willingly. Like she had receipts.
980
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.530
This is where I was today. But then I also
981
00:54:09.570 --> 00:54:11.269
kind of got the feeling that she was doing that
982
00:54:11.309 --> 00:54:13.309
because she was afraid. She really didn't want to go
983
00:54:13.389 --> 00:54:15.550
sit down in front of the cops. She was afraid
984
00:54:15.590 --> 00:54:21.090
of something, them finding something out. So she told them, yes,
985
00:54:21.250 --> 00:54:24.369
I went to his house. I went to the door
986
00:54:24.429 --> 00:54:26.880
where the, you know, the particle board thing where you
987
00:54:26.900 --> 00:54:28.960
can get in the, all of that is she told
988
00:54:28.980 --> 00:54:32.019
them all of that. This is, pretty close to when
989
00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:34.019
the murder is supposed to be happening too she says
990
00:54:34.099 --> 00:54:36.969
i stopped herself on the scene so i mean that's
991
00:54:37.010 --> 00:54:41.530
the truth um and this now the cops say she
992
00:54:41.570 --> 00:54:43.610
knew the farmer saw her and she was trying to
993
00:54:43.630 --> 00:54:45.469
get out ahead of it because remember the farmer saw
994
00:54:45.489 --> 00:54:50.269
them outside but also the farmer didn't why would you
995
00:54:50.309 --> 00:54:52.769
recognize and why would you put yourself at the murder
996
00:54:52.789 --> 00:54:55.690
scene before the farmer says that they saw you so
997
00:54:56.269 --> 00:54:59.429
it can go either way um She gave them her coat,
998
00:54:59.510 --> 00:55:02.849
her shoes, fiber samples from the interior of her vehicle,
999
00:55:03.190 --> 00:55:07.010
her fingerprints, her palm prints, her blood. She gave them everything.
1000
00:55:08.269 --> 00:55:11.190
They tested everything. Nothing matched. They asked her to take
1001
00:55:11.230 --> 00:55:16.780
a polygraph and she said, OK, fine. And she passed it. OK.
1002
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:19.820
They said she took the polygraph examination on that day
1003
00:55:19.860 --> 00:55:22.920
and basically passed the polygraph. There was no conclusive evidence
1004
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:25.739
that they could say after she took the polygraph that
1005
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:29.380
would lead you to believe that she was guilty. So
1006
00:55:29.420 --> 00:55:31.840
they said at that point they started working other leads
1007
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:37.219
because she passed. Yeah, that's how you eliminate people. So
1008
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:41.769
the case goes cold here. Wow. They said that we
1009
00:55:41.809 --> 00:55:44.130
interviewed some people and really didn't get a lot. We're
1010
00:55:44.150 --> 00:55:46.969
getting the same name, same information, and it just went cold.
1011
00:55:47.030 --> 00:55:52.889
Same dead ends. Holy shit. A year later. That there
1012
00:55:53.070 --> 00:55:56.190
was this big announcement in the Iowa City, some gazette
1013
00:55:56.250 --> 00:55:58.369
or some shit, one of the papers there that said, like,
1014
00:55:58.769 --> 00:56:00.909
new information, blah, blah, blah. And then the next day
1015
00:56:00.949 --> 00:56:04.000
it was like, there's no new information. That was our bad.
1016
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:07.659
Same old shit. Annette keeps checking in with the cops.
1017
00:56:07.739 --> 00:56:09.780
She goes to the police station on her own every
1018
00:56:09.860 --> 00:56:13.079
once in a while repeatedly. Okay. They said she was
1019
00:56:13.139 --> 00:56:16.199
unusually interested in the investigation. She would come to the
1020
00:56:16.219 --> 00:56:18.679
police station of her own volition and check on things.
1021
00:56:19.630 --> 00:56:23.429
She also started handing them other suspects. They said there's–
1022
00:56:23.710 --> 00:56:26.889
investigators said there's always red flags, but the big giant
1023
00:56:26.949 --> 00:56:29.210
red flags, the ones that are like on the top
1024
00:56:29.250 --> 00:56:32.059
of a building screaming at you that this is a person,
1025
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:36.639
is when your suspect starts coming forward providing alternate suspects.
1026
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:37.400
Yeah.
1027
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:41.980
Like that's not a good– Not me. No. By the way, 1995,
1028
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:46.670
remember Missy and Bob Morrison? Yeah. Well, Bob shot and
1029
00:56:46.710 --> 00:56:51.130
killed Missy in 1995. amid accusations that she was fucking
1030
00:56:51.190 --> 00:56:53.110
other people and was going to leave him, and then
1031
00:56:53.150 --> 00:56:55.340
he killed himself. Bob!
1032
00:56:55.980 --> 00:56:59.159
That's a dead end now, Bob and Missy. Incredibly dead end.
1033
00:56:59.340 --> 00:57:01.760
And that's the guy that beats animals and his wife?
1034
00:57:01.940 --> 00:57:05.440
And his wife, yeah. Shocking end. You never would have thought, right?
1035
00:57:06.099 --> 00:57:10.829
Not that guy. What a dickhead. So October 1995, they
1036
00:57:10.869 --> 00:57:13.590
have a meeting, all the investigators. It's been three years.
1037
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:18.159
And they theorized it's probably– it was probably Bob Morrison
1038
00:57:18.179 --> 00:57:21.650
who killed Corey. That would make the most sense. So
1039
00:57:21.670 --> 00:57:24.230
they do all of that and they said, I mean,
1040
00:57:25.250 --> 00:57:27.730
he was dead. Now there's nobody to prosecute though. So
1041
00:57:27.750 --> 00:57:30.250
they kind of– he was their main suspect right now
1042
00:57:30.309 --> 00:57:32.099
and now he died. So they lost interest in the
1043
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:34.619
case pretty much. They were like, well, that was that.
1044
00:57:35.429 --> 00:57:37.829
So over the years, they get more suspects, a guy
1045
00:57:37.889 --> 00:57:41.710
named Dennis Stromer, a guy named Corey, a guy named Robert,
1046
00:57:42.170 --> 00:57:45.420
Stephen Burke, William James Wade. These are all the ones
1047
00:57:45.460 --> 00:57:48.139
they named. Steve Young. Hey, Steve Young was there. Is
1048
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:50.980
that right? He's a scrambling lefty. I don't think he
1049
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:51.250
did it.
1050
00:57:51.659 --> 00:57:51.840
No.
1051
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:54.239
And there's a bunch more. There's a guy named Jeff
1052
00:57:54.300 --> 00:57:57.219
Murdoch who, according to an interview with a guy named
1053
00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:01.650
Scott Payne, Jeff Murdoch was bragging about killing Corey at
1054
00:58:01.690 --> 00:58:05.090
two different local bars on two separate occasions. Jeff was
1055
00:58:05.210 --> 00:58:08.050
never interviewed once by the cops for this murder and
1056
00:58:08.070 --> 00:58:12.230
he died in 2004 having never been interviewed. Um, they're
1057
00:58:12.269 --> 00:58:15.789
doing a bang job. This is great. There is no
1058
00:58:15.829 --> 00:58:17.530
way we can finish this fucking story. I don't know
1059
00:58:17.550 --> 00:58:20.500
how we're going to do this. Okay. Um, There's a
1060
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.159
lot left. Really? And it's juicy and there's a lot
1061
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:25.800
to talk about. Can we do a two-parter on an express?
1062
00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:28.300
That seems weird, right? We have a long show for that.
1063
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.210
I don't fucking see why not. We can. We can
1064
00:58:30.230 --> 00:58:33.389
do whatever we want. It's our show. If I'm a listener,
1065
00:58:33.409 --> 00:58:35.329
I'm going, hey, stupids, maybe you should have made that
1066
00:58:35.369 --> 00:58:37.710
your regular length show. You do have a longer show.
1067
00:58:38.389 --> 00:58:42.449
The point of this is short stories. I don't know.
1068
00:58:42.670 --> 00:58:45.989
I think dead man with a cop police force doing
1069
00:58:46.030 --> 00:58:48.760
a bang-up job of fucking this up is a beautiful
1070
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:49.619
place to stop.
1071
00:58:49.940 --> 00:58:52.980
It's pretty goddamn great. Yeah. We'll do a little bit more,
1072
00:58:53.019 --> 00:58:54.900
and then we're not going to rush through it and
1073
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:57.539
not tell the story, basically. So let's do it. That's
1074
00:58:57.559 --> 00:58:57.980
what I mean.
1075
00:58:58.900 --> 00:59:01.820
If there's an hour to go still, fucking see you
1076
00:59:01.860 --> 00:59:02.469
next week.
1077
00:59:03.809 --> 00:59:07.670
All right. Fuck it. Then we're in. So let's continue
1078
00:59:07.690 --> 00:59:13.309
this then. So Jeff. never got never got fucking interviewed
1079
00:59:13.329 --> 00:59:16.949
never got thoroughly investigated who people say were were actually
1080
00:59:17.050 --> 00:59:21.679
like he was actually admitting it to people here um
1081
00:59:21.739 --> 00:59:24.380
then there's a guy named joey brockert who lived in
1082
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:26.989
west liberty at the time of the murder here The
1083
00:59:27.090 --> 00:59:31.889
following year, he was convicted of beating a man to death. Okay.
1084
00:59:32.250 --> 00:59:35.489
Different guy, a beating, but a blunt force trauma murder.
1085
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.500
So he was a guy who was on the suspect
1086
00:59:38.539 --> 00:59:44.360
list to begin with and then gets beaten fucking horribly. Okay. Wow.
1087
00:59:44.699 --> 00:59:49.510
There's a guy named Mark Rodriguez here. Mark Rodriguez is
1088
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:53.869
implicated by an ex-girlfriend named Megan Kaufman who who told
1089
00:59:53.929 --> 00:59:58.570
investigators that Rodriguez and Brockert, the guy who beat a
1090
00:59:58.590 --> 01:00:01.610
guy to death the next year, were both members of
1091
01:00:01.690 --> 01:00:06.400
a local group called the Klan, with a C. Okay.
1092
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:10.320
How do you name your group the Klan? There's already...
1093
01:00:10.769 --> 01:00:13.570
One of those. That is a connotation. I mean, there's
1094
01:00:13.590 --> 01:00:18.320
the Wu-Tang one. But if you're nine black guys, fine.
1095
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:21.179
People probably understand that you're probably not going to go
1096
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:22.860
burn a cross on anybody's lawn.
1097
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:26.619
And they qualified that clan with the Wu-Tang part.
1098
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:31.250
Wu-Tang clan. That part differentiates it. Tremendously. Huge at that point. Yeah.
1099
01:00:31.409 --> 01:00:35.329
Huge difference. And they got some pretty great names, each guy.
1100
01:00:35.369 --> 01:00:35.610
Yeah.
1101
01:00:35.989 --> 01:00:38.489
Yeah. I don't think there's a lot of guys in
1102
01:00:38.550 --> 01:00:42.420
the Ku Klux Klan. In the Klan? The Ghostface Killer, probably.
1103
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.260
I don't think there's a lot of old dirty bastards
1104
01:00:45.300 --> 01:00:49.260
in there. They are bastards. I'm sure of that. They are.
1105
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:53.980
So a local group called the Klan and were involved
1106
01:00:54.019 --> 01:00:56.909
in dealing drugs. I got to know what the Klan
1107
01:00:56.949 --> 01:00:59.090
is all about. What do they do? I don't know
1108
01:00:59.130 --> 01:01:00.989
if I want to know. Oh, God.
1109
01:01:01.869 --> 01:01:03.449
I mean, I want to know, but I'm going to
1110
01:01:03.690 --> 01:01:05.019
be regretful when I find out.
1111
01:01:06.369 --> 01:01:08.050
Not going to be thrilled with the results of it.
1112
01:01:08.949 --> 01:01:12.519
So that's Mark Rodriguez there. So his ex-girlfriend told on him.
1113
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:14.940
So we have several people going, this person, I heard
1114
01:01:14.980 --> 01:01:17.719
this person say that they killed it. That's Joey Brockert
1115
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:20.159
they heard about. They heard about Mark Rodriguez. They heard
1116
01:01:20.219 --> 01:01:24.500
about Jeff Murdoch. Then there's a guy named Kenny Hammonds.
1117
01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:32.449
Kenny Hammonds. said that there's a guy named Jeffrey Lobdell.
1118
01:01:33.070 --> 01:01:37.219
And Jeffrey Lobdell said that Kenny Hammonds admitted to me
1119
01:01:38.019 --> 01:01:41.340
that he dropped Corey off at home on the morning
1120
01:01:41.380 --> 01:01:44.639
of the murder. So he's saying he put Corey. Now,
1121
01:01:44.699 --> 01:01:47.119
I don't know why. How would Corey's car be there then?
1122
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:51.150
That's that doesn't make any sense. So that one that
1123
01:01:51.190 --> 01:01:54.150
you discount just because we know Corey had a car
1124
01:01:54.190 --> 01:01:55.829
when he left the bar. We know Corey had a
1125
01:01:55.849 --> 01:01:59.780
car at several locations, including Angry Sex with Annette and
1126
01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:03.599
the birthday party with Slim. And then he stopped off
1127
01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:05.579
at the other one's house to Wendy to talk to
1128
01:02:05.619 --> 01:02:07.139
her and then got his car home because it's in
1129
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:08.219
the fucking driveway. So.
1130
01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:10.780
Yeah, he got home at 7 a.m. and went to bed,
1131
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:14.190
and his girlfriend went to work. What, he went back out?
1132
01:02:14.989 --> 01:02:18.449
Yeah, it makes no sense. So we know that's not right.
1133
01:02:18.630 --> 01:02:20.750
They might have their days mixed up, too. That's the
1134
01:02:20.789 --> 01:02:25.989
other thing. I mean, we were talking about years later, too. Like, yeah,
1135
01:02:26.010 --> 01:02:29.320
we drove him home around then. Who knows, you know?
1136
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:35.239
Then there's a set of drug dealers from Missouri whom
1137
01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:39.269
Corey reportedly owed money. That's according to a woman named
1138
01:02:39.309 --> 01:02:42.789
Brenda Peterson. Corey owed out of town drug dealers money.
1139
01:02:43.570 --> 01:02:47.789
And there's that. So we have a lot of shit
1140
01:02:47.809 --> 01:02:52.989
going on here. We have, uh, Jeffrey Lobdell and Kenny Hammonds.
1141
01:02:53.030 --> 01:02:55.849
We got Brenda Peterson saying they, they did that. We
1142
01:02:55.889 --> 01:02:58.449
got the Mark Rodriguez guy who's in the, who's drug
1143
01:02:58.469 --> 01:03:01.699
dealing in the clan. And his ex-girlfriend says that he
1144
01:03:01.739 --> 01:03:04.280
told her they did that, um, that he did that.
1145
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:08.539
Joey Brockert here, um, who beat a guy to death. Uh,
1146
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:12.079
Jeff Murdock, who's been heard in several different bars bragging
1147
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:13.219
about the murder as well.
1148
01:03:14.019 --> 01:03:14.239
Hmm.
1149
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:18.510
That in addition to Morrison, who's dead.
1150
01:03:18.530 --> 01:03:18.610
Yeah.
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01:03:18.929 --> 01:03:27.050
Um, And Missy, who's dead. And basically Jody, Annette, Wendy.
1152
01:03:28.449 --> 01:03:29.969
I mean, anyone they have maybe had.
1153
01:03:30.050 --> 01:03:31.730
We got more people than the Wu-Tang Clan.
1154
01:03:31.750 --> 01:03:35.230
Yeah. This is a Wu-Tang, a veritable Wu-Tang Clan of
1155
01:03:35.269 --> 01:03:39.789
suspects is what we have here. This shit is crazy. Yeah.
1156
01:03:39.909 --> 01:03:43.639
This is, there are so many suspects. That's what I mean. Wow.
1157
01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:49.659
So then, and 2002 is the 10-year anniversary announcement of.
1158
01:03:50.510 --> 01:03:52.670
the case here. 10 years have gone by.
1159
01:03:52.690 --> 01:03:56.289
It went a decade without solving a man beaten to
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01:03:56.329 --> 01:03:57.369
death in his bed?
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01:03:57.690 --> 01:04:02.269
In his own bed, in his own home, which seems wild.
1162
01:04:02.389 --> 01:04:06.789
On the 10-year anniversary, a sergeant told the Associated Press
1163
01:04:06.809 --> 01:04:09.630
that no motive has been developed and that no one
1164
01:04:09.670 --> 01:04:12.449
has been identified as a suspect. We don't even know
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01:04:12.489 --> 01:04:15.590
why he's dead. There's like 20 suspects, but none of
1166
01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:18.510
them are You know, you can really grab onto and
1167
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:22.030
pull onto here. And the fact that they don't even
1168
01:04:22.070 --> 01:04:27.389
have a fucking motive yet. So drugs, angry boyfriend, dude
1169
01:04:27.429 --> 01:04:30.170
he pissed off at the bar could literally be anything.
1170
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:35.460
The same– now Susan, his mother, said, I can't imagine
1171
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:38.980
that somebody had something as awful against him. We didn't
1172
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:42.170
know he had any enemies at all, which– I'm sure
1173
01:04:42.190 --> 01:04:44.460
he didn't know he was banging 18 women and doing
1174
01:04:44.500 --> 01:04:46.659
coke at night either. So you're generally don't tell your
1175
01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:50.659
mom that. No, not at all here. And then there's
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01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:53.159
the dog. They said that, you know, a lot of
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01:04:53.219 --> 01:04:57.630
these people that are suspects are strangers in terms of
1178
01:04:57.650 --> 01:05:00.010
they've never they don't hang out at Corey's house. Yeah.
1179
01:05:00.730 --> 01:05:02.969
So they're like this dog. It has to be someone
1180
01:05:02.989 --> 01:05:07.750
that this dog knows pretty well. Yeah. Like pretty goddamn good.
1181
01:05:07.789 --> 01:05:09.469
Like they have to have been over there 10 times.
1182
01:05:09.659 --> 01:05:13.599
So you wish a dog knew English. Please. You're looking
1183
01:05:13.659 --> 01:05:15.179
at him, and he's just staring at you with love.
1184
01:05:15.260 --> 01:05:20.400
Who did it, boy? Who? Tell me. Don't you just wish?
1185
01:05:20.659 --> 01:05:23.539
Dogs have seen so much over the years. So much.
1186
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:24.139
So much.
1187
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:26.900
I'm glad mine can't talk. They've seen me naked so much.
1188
01:05:27.179 --> 01:05:30.519
Oh, God. I tell you everything. Every divorce case, all
1189
01:05:30.539 --> 01:05:32.079
they would ask is just, let's bring the dog in.
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01:05:32.500 --> 01:05:34.550
The dog would be the witness. You too. The fuck
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01:05:34.659 --> 01:05:37.550
out of here. We're going to talk to the dog.
1192
01:05:37.630 --> 01:05:41.679
He was a dick. Yeah. She would bitch and moan
1193
01:05:41.699 --> 01:05:44.900
a lot. Somebody get out the milk bones. I got
1194
01:05:44.940 --> 01:05:48.860
some questions to do. After every question, you got to
1195
01:05:48.900 --> 01:05:50.480
give him a little piece of a bone. He's like.
1196
01:05:53.139 --> 01:05:56.940
My dogs would tell you everything. He can recall and testify,
1197
01:05:57.019 --> 01:05:58.579
but must be bribed with treats.
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01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:00.679
That's the greatest part about dog witnesses. My dogs would
1199
01:06:00.739 --> 01:06:02.469
sell me out so fast.
1200
01:06:02.670 --> 01:06:08.510
Oh, God. Forget it. Forget it. Oh, fuck. They got
1201
01:06:08.570 --> 01:06:12.630
the dream bones. Oh, no. Two of my three dogs
1202
01:06:12.650 --> 01:06:15.730
would fuck me in a second. In a second. Frankie,
1203
01:06:15.750 --> 01:06:17.800
keep her mouth shut. Frankie's hardcore.
1204
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:21.760
Both of these fucking assholes. They're so food secure, James.
1205
01:06:22.099 --> 01:06:24.900
I've never had dogs where I can put food down
1206
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:27.780
and they'll still stare at me because they know that
1207
01:06:27.820 --> 01:06:30.679
food's going to be, it's not going anywhere. There's always food.
1208
01:06:31.469 --> 01:06:33.929
Yeah. Our dogs all eat out of the same bowls.
1209
01:06:34.579 --> 01:06:37.420
They don't even have separate bowls. The two big ones start.
1210
01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:39.280
They all share. And one will take a bite and
1211
01:06:39.300 --> 01:06:41.019
then step back and let the other one come eat
1212
01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:43.840
a little bit. We gave Frankie a little bit of
1213
01:06:43.860 --> 01:06:45.769
steak last night because we had some leftover and put
1214
01:06:45.809 --> 01:06:47.789
it on the floor because she's real old
and losing weight.
1215
01:06:48.230 --> 01:06:52.789
And she actually, a plate of steak, medium rare fucking steak,
1216
01:06:53.230 --> 01:06:55.230
backed away so Oscar could get a piece and then
1217
01:06:55.250 --> 01:06:57.030
went back in. That's how nice they are to each other.
1218
01:06:57.329 --> 01:07:00.130
They would tell on us so badly, Jimmy. So quick.
1219
01:07:00.550 --> 01:07:00.969
So quick.
1220
01:07:01.380 --> 01:07:04.019
They don't understand the amount of food that's here is
1221
01:07:04.059 --> 01:07:06.380
because I love you. There are so many houses that
1222
01:07:06.420 --> 01:07:08.340
this shit doesn't exist because they don't give a shit
1223
01:07:08.380 --> 01:07:09.059
about their dog.
1224
01:07:09.619 --> 01:07:12.199
And I'm doing all I can. I feed you before
1225
01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:15.909
I eat, you bastard. Son of a bitch. Sons of bitches.
1226
01:07:16.010 --> 01:07:18.690
And you tell the cops everything. Are your dogs grazers
1227
01:07:18.730 --> 01:07:22.110
or all at once eaters? Grazers. Yeah, I think it's
1228
01:07:22.130 --> 01:07:25.849
a security thing. It's food security. Well, we started, Frankie
1229
01:07:25.889 --> 01:07:27.619
was like that, and then the other dogs just took
1230
01:07:27.659 --> 01:07:29.380
her example, I think, from that. Like, oh, we don't
1231
01:07:29.420 --> 01:07:31.920
have to just scarf everything up? All right, cool. I
1232
01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:33.139
think that's definitely part of it.
1233
01:07:33.139 --> 01:07:35.579
They got to go by example because some dogs, they're
1234
01:07:35.619 --> 01:07:37.539
just scared because there's another dog in the house.
1235
01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:38.940
And they'll just wolf it all down.
1236
01:07:38.980 --> 01:07:41.119
But if they see one take a few nibbles and
1237
01:07:41.139 --> 01:07:43.199
walk away, they're like, oh, he's not going to take
1238
01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:43.579
my shit.
1239
01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:46.739
He doesn't even care about his own. Exactly. When we
1240
01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:48.760
got Benny, we put him down. He was eating his
1241
01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:50.909
food and Frankie was a year old and she came
1242
01:07:51.010 --> 01:07:53.150
over when he was a puppy and he growled at
1243
01:07:53.170 --> 01:07:54.670
her and we went, no, no. And we pulled him
1244
01:07:54.710 --> 01:07:57.110
away from the food. And then she took a couple bites,
1245
01:07:57.150 --> 01:07:58.889
and then we put him back, and he's never done
1246
01:07:58.909 --> 01:08:01.260
it again. After that, they just started eating together out
1247
01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:02.679
of the bowl. That's it.
1248
01:08:03.019 --> 01:08:05.500
These two never growl each other at all. Dre steps
1249
01:08:05.539 --> 01:08:07.619
on his fucking face. That's the only time they hate
1250
01:08:07.659 --> 01:08:09.539
each other is when he crowds.
1251
01:08:10.539 --> 01:08:13.059
Mine, too. They love each other. It's fucking awesome. So
1252
01:08:13.500 --> 01:08:15.780
I guess that's where we'll have to leave this off here.
1253
01:08:16.180 --> 01:08:20.930
I'll leave it off with this. 2009. Okay, because then, yeah,
1254
01:08:20.939 --> 01:08:24.529
the next thing is when the case blows open. Okay, 2009.
1255
01:08:24.529 --> 01:08:30.779
17 years. 17 years. The Iowa DCI set up a
1256
01:08:30.819 --> 01:08:33.760
cold case unit finally. They figured, hey, we might have
1257
01:08:33.779 --> 01:08:36.899
some cases that are old. Corey's murder was one of
1258
01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:41.000
the roughly 150 cases that they hope to revisit with
1259
01:08:41.060 --> 01:08:43.819
new DNA technology now. We'll run all this evidence again
1260
01:08:43.859 --> 01:08:47.670
and get some answers. Unfortunately, that takes a long time.
1261
01:08:47.750 --> 01:08:52.109
And by 2011, the federal grant funding ran out and
1262
01:08:52.130 --> 01:08:55.039
the unit collapsed. What? And they were like, that's that.
1263
01:08:55.060 --> 01:08:57.829
Because the state couldn't afford it. So that was that.
1264
01:08:57.850 --> 01:08:59.569
We have no money now. We have the technology. Now
1265
01:08:59.590 --> 01:09:01.460
we have no money. no way to run it. Nope.
1266
01:09:01.659 --> 01:09:04.460
So there you go. That's where it stops. And then
1267
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:08.399
it's the most unlikely thing. People you haven't even fucking
1268
01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:11.010
met yet are still to come in this story. And
1269
01:09:12.090 --> 01:09:14.789
a suspect that you do know emerges and it's so
1270
01:09:14.850 --> 01:09:16.569
fucking crazy. And I want to give it the time
1271
01:09:16.609 --> 01:09:19.869
it deserves because there's also very much question of the
1272
01:09:19.949 --> 01:09:23.270
verdict and everything like that. Huge questions there. So it's
1273
01:09:23.329 --> 01:09:26.130
become kind of a cause this case. So we'll get
1274
01:09:26.170 --> 01:09:28.899
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1275
01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:32.260
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