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Okay we are live hello luke hold facts hello little
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whiskers hello co cox comb red hi hi rebecca parker
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wesley loves oktoberfest long time no see how are you
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uh alva sandra did i get everybody hello hello hello
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i'm roberta glass Welcome to my true crime report. I
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talk about innocence fraud and true crime with an emphasis
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on victims' rights. If that interests you, please feel free
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to hit the subscribe or hit the end or hit
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the thumbs up. Talking about Patrick Clancy and his Reddit
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posts have come to light and A lot of them,
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a lot of the posts are related to Lindsay Clancy
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writing for his wife. And we'll go through it. Was
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Lindsay Clancy torturing Patrick Clancy with news of her mental unwellness?
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I don't know. Let me know what you think. We're
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going to go through those Reddit posts and we're going
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to start with his parents. So we're going to go chronologically.
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And these are some of the older posts, but they're
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both about his parents, Susan and Christopher Clancy, who testified
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in the trial. Interestingly, Susan Clancy, Patrick Clancy's mother, testified
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for the defense. Christopher Clancy, I believe, testified for the prosecution.
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We'll look at some of their testimony, but check. We're
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going to start out with his post from July 1st, 2021.
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My parents seem so lost and I don't know what
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to do. My parents are different people than they were
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when they raised me, or maybe they're the same.
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I don't know.
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But Hold on one second. Let me just move my screen.
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Just like, can I move this like a little closer?
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But here is the current situation and I'll describe the
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challenges below. They are both not in, they are both
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not in their early sixties. He writes, they were both
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not in their early sixties. Did I read that correctly?
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I think he just meant to say they're both in
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their early 60s. They have 14 grandchildren and four kids,
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and they are self-sufficient, but still live paycheck to paycheck
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and stress about a lot of things. I'm the only
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one left who lives in the same region as my parents.
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Two of my siblings moved far away, and for one
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of them, it was definitely partially because of her deteriorating
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relationship with my parents. They both drink excessively. Now I
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found this really interesting because when Susan Clancy testified, someone
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in my audience said, that woman looks like an alcoholic.
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And I put the, as we were watching the trial,
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I put the comment on this screen and read it
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out loud. And then I got a whole, and I said, wow,
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that's an interesting observation. Then I got a whole lot
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of like flack for it, for even reading it out loud.
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But to whoever that person was, you were bang on correct.
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They both drink excessively. They definitely drink every day, but
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often it starts as early as breakfast with two vodkas,
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mimosas each. I don't know, two vodka mimosas. It's not
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uncommon that my dad will have 10 drinks in a
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day my mom a little less. They are obsessed with restaurants,
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probably cook dinner at home once a week at most.
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The drinking is a serious issue, but we've tried intervention
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several times, and I have surrendered to the fact that
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there's nothing we can do. They also live in a
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tiny house on a cliff with no fence, so they
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complain that the grandkids never come to visit but they
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live on maybe the most dangerous plot of land in
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our area, and their house is many. Did I read
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that right?
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Many.
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Well, is he saying he can't fit their grandchildren in there?
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It seems unusual. My dad always swears endlessly in front
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of his toddler grandkids, my kids. This is odd because
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he used to ask people to watch There are mouths
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around us when we were kids, but now he's like
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an old sailor dropping F-bombs, and it continues. So in summary,
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they drink
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a ton, only want to go to restaurants,
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which doesn't work well with toddlers, and swear a lot,
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but complain that they don't see us or their grandkids much.
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I'm not sure what to do because they get mad
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if I approach them with these complaints. I'm worried that
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my relationship with my parents will almost completely deteriorate and
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soon they'll be estranged. Well, remember how Lindsay Clancy said
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she didn't want the parents around the children and that
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they didn't ask much. And that was completely opposite. We'll
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listen to what they say in their testimony in a second.
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I'm actually jealous of people who have great relationships with
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their parents. So he posted as Willie dream world, uh,
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And this is from July 1st, 2022. And that was
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in the Our Family Reddit. So if you don't know Reddit,
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it's like a bulletin board. And this was the post
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for people who had questions or concerns or wanted to
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express something about their family. And then he writes in
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QAnon Casualties 1020. So October 20th, 2021. What to do
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about my parents? My parents have gone off the deep end.
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I want to first say that I love my parents.
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So this is a theme, right? That we're seeing here.
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Like these weren't the parents that I, they, I don't
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know if they were drinking when they were raising Patrick
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Clancy or is this is something they like became an issue,
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at least for Patrick Clancy, maybe not Susan and Christopher Clancy.
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And it's hard, hard to know, but they said they
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had several interventions. And the parents were like, no thanks.
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No thanks to the help, I guess. That's what I got.
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Let me know what you got from it, these posts.
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I'm grateful for the life they've given me, but they're
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literally obsessed with Donald Trump and talk about him every day.
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I don't even mind that they voted for him. What
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I struggle with is the wedge that they drive between
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our family because of the conspiracy theories. They believe, for example,
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they truly believe the election was stolen. They have expressed
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anti-vax views, and they think January 6th was actually Democrats
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dressed up as Trump supporters. One day I came home
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to my wife crying because my mother sent her a
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crazy post. Okay, so this is Lindsey Clancy. Came home
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to Lindsey Clancy crying because... Susan Clancy sent Lindsay Clancy
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a crazy post from Simone Gold. I don't know. I
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didn't get enough time to look that up. That claimed
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anyone who got the vaccine will have miscarriages. My wife
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naturally distanced herself from my mom after that, and I
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don't blame her. What was she going to say next?
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Sometimes I think, well, I guess that's it. It was
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nice knowing my parents. Then I remind myself of the
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better times and I want to still have a relationship
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with them. But every time we see them, there are
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at least one episode about Trump and associated conspiracy theories.
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Last night, I was bombarded with texts from my dad
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claiming that Biden is a communist and is in cahoots
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with China. This is all while I was trying to
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eat dinner with my family and get my kids who
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are both sick ready for bed. Today he apologized and
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said he won't talk about politics anymore, but I know
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that's unlikely. Has anyone in here ever been able to
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find progress, a resolution, or are we just doomed? So
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that is from QAnon Casualties. Patrick Clancy writing about his parents,
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Susan and Christopher Clancy on Reddit. Like I said before,
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QAnon Casualties. But I thought it would be Interesting to
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look at Susan Clancy's testimony when it comes to her
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spending time with the kids. So that's Patrick's story, right?
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And here she's asked about whether they spend time with
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the kids. Take a listen.
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Did the kids come to stay at your house overnight
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so that she could get some sleep?
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No, they didn't.
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Fair
to say. you offered and she didn't want the
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kids to come to your house, right?
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No, that's not right.
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Well, were they... Did they ever sleep over your house?
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No, they didn't.
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And Cora was five, right?
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Yes, correct. She turned five that December.
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So.
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Is it interesting that Susan Clancy doesn't say, well, we
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live in a tiny house on a cliff that's really
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unsafe for kids? She doesn't think that's the issue. Lindsay
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Clancy was vague about it in her diary. She just said, like,
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I don't want these parents around my kids. And here's
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Patrick's mother testifying for her.
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At any point, they never stayed over.
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We decided together it was best for them to be
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in their own beds at their own house with all
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their belongings. And Lindsay's parents were very actively involved in
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staying over and helping out. So it was the best
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decision that they stay home in their own beds.
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So prior to the November of 2022, did you and
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your husband.
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So she makes it about children being afraid to be
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away from home, that they had all the things that
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they liked around them. But there's... You know, the prosecution
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was pushing gently and saying... Kind of like raising an eyebrow, like,
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I'm not sure if I believe you on that. On
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the reason. Who would want to leave? It's really hard
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to know if Patrick's concerns were real because he also
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talks on the Reddit forum about having two beers a
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night and worried. He's like, I don't think I'm an alcoholic.
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And he eventually just quits drinking because he's like, two
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beers a night, I don't feel as well as I
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could in the morning. which is a typical non-addicts response, right?
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It didn't seem difficult for him to stop. And two beers,
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I don't even think makes the criteria of trouble drinking
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anywhere close, but okay. So it's hard to know. And
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Lindsay Clancy was always so worried. I think it was
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just her way of riling up Patrick Clancy and getting,
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you know, stirring things, stirring the pot as psychopaths love
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to do. They love to stir the pot. They love
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to mix it all up, confuse people. And I think
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that she was just stirring the pot there with her
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benzo addiction. I mean, you have to take the drugs
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to actually get a benzo addiction. So for example, she
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was given 30 Ativan and only six were taken and
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the rest were found in her pill bottle. And we
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don't even know that she actually took the medication. She
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could have tossed it in the toilet, tossed it over
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her shoulder, or tossed it somewhere else.
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Ever come and stay over the night so that Patrick
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and Lindsay could go off?
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We never did stay at their house.
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And as far as kind of watching the kids or
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taking the kids outside of the house during the daytime...
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Did you often take Cora on kind of day trips
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out to lunch?
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Yeah, we used to go to lunch together.
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How about Dawson? Did you take him one-on-one out to.
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Not as much. He was younger.
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And how about Callan? Did you ever take him out
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of the house without Lindsay?
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And are you aware that Lindsay told one of the
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therapists that she wasn't close with you as in-laws?
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I didn't know that, no.
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That she said she doesn't generally allow... The in-laws to
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watch her children?
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I did watch the kids.
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Okay, but are you aware that she told the therapist that?
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No.
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Are you aware she told the therapist that she didn't
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have any particular reason why and that they don't bug
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me about it either?
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I didn't know any of that.
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Typically, that's Lindsay Clancy's typical pathological lying. She doesn't know
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why she doesn't. Maybe she's concerned about the drinking. Maybe
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she doesn't like their politics. Maybe... hard to know. Maybe
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it's just a way of keeping power and control over
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Patrick Clancy and the family.
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All right.
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Here's her father on this. Uh, here's his father. Excuse me.
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I'm sorry. I think I did that last time. Patrick
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Clancy's father, Christopher Clancy, uh, talking on direct about his
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relationship with the client, with Patrick and Lindsay. Take a listen.
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And, um, How often would you see the family?
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We saw them regularly. They lived not too far from us.
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They lived in Weymouth first, and we saw them regularly.
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And then eventually they moved to Duxbury?
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Yes.
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And directing your attention to the time.
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Wait, hold on. In loving memories. Are you serious? Are
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you pulling my leg? Really? Really? Thank you. If that's true,
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Wesley Loves Oktoberfest was certainly a good friend of the
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show and will be missed if that is true. Oh
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my lord. Thank you. Thank you. My condolences.
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Horrible. Horrible.
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Between November 16th, 2022 and Thanksgiving of that year, did
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you see them at your house?
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I think they did come up to our house one time.
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It might have been a Saturday or Sunday.
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And why did they come over that day?
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I think they just came over to say hi.
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And what was Lindsay's demeanor that day?
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Very good.
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And was there any difference in her behavior or speech
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pattern than what you've seen with her previously?
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Not that day.
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And how was that visit?
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Very good.
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Did you then see them at or around Thanksgiving?
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And where was that?
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That was at my daughter Laura's house in Hamilton.
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to.
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In Hamilton.
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In Hamilton.
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And did you interact with Lindsay that day?
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What was her demeanor that day?
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She seemed a little, how do.
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You say it? Let me think for a minute.
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She seemed quiet. She seemed quiet.
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Quiet.
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This is all the same things. Quiet, low energy, depressed.
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She was really struggling. This is the language that all
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the Clancy family uses about Lindsay. But he then goes
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on to describe how Lindsay Clancy grabbed Dawson Clancy's arm.
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Dawson was the middle son. So we're talking about the
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Lindsay Clancy case. Lindsay Clancy murdered her children Cora, age 5, Dawson,
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age 3, and Callan, age 8 months, on January 24, 2023,
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in Duxbury, Massachusetts. She strangled each one of them in
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the basement of her home before getting a very dull
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knife making superficial wounds on her wrist and neck and
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sliding out the second story window after taking we think
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was some some psychiatric medication not in none of it
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was was nearly enough to end her life but she
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did not anticipate that sliding out the second story window
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would uh she did not anticipate the hard january ground
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so she injured herself and is in a wheelchair and
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in the in patrick clancy's civil suit he says that
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she is paralyzed from the sternum down.
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In in news reports it's been that she's been paralyzed
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from the waist down so hard to.
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And did she seem to interact with everyone there as
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she normally would?
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Yeah, she was very close with my daughters and her sister-in-law.
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Do you recall them wearing coordinating shirts that day?
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I think so.
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Weren't they, or was that his cousin? Weren't they roommates?
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That's how I thought they met. And during— I thought
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Lindsay Clancy— I thought Patrick Clancy had testified that Lindsay
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was roommates with his sister, and that's how.
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He— That day, did you make observations of Lindsay getting
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the kids settled down for dinner?
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I did.
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And did you see her interact with Dawson? Yes, I did.
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And can you describe that interaction, please?
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Mm-hmm.
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Thank you, Little Miss Peachy.
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Thank you.
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His cousin. I knew it was someone in his family.
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I was like, was it his sister? His cousin. Thank you.
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Thank you, Little Miss Peachy. Thank you for the correction.
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But she just, he says that she was a great mother.
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She grabbed Dawson's hand when he was acting silly, according
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to the father. I'll just get to the burden of
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testimony myself. But she wasn't irritated. It was totally appropriate
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and nothing great mothering. She was irritated. with her son
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for acting silly, but acted totally appropriately, but so appropriately
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that he remembers. Oh, my camera just went out. Hold
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on one hot minute. Let me see if I can
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fix it. Hot minute. Sometimes it does this when, yeah,
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hold on one second. I'll be right back. I'm going
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to pull myself out once.
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There we go.
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Back.
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I think we're back. Yeah, we're back.
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Thank you for your, thank you for your patience.
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So the first post that where Patrick Clancy talks about
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Lindsay Clancy and how we know, um, it's as well,
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it's really impossible. It could be anyone else, but I
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believe it was connected. Someone asked how we know it's
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Patrick Clancy's. It was connected to an email address that
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he testified under. That's how. And I guess someone looked
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it up. So his first postpartum depression post on postpartum
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depression on was on October 20th, 2022. And it's removed.
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So how can I help as a husband? And that's
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just like the general attitude was, how can I help?
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What can I do? Husband here needs suggestions from people
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who have gotten through this. That's on the 1st of December.
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And then we go into December 5th. How hard will
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it be to get off benzos after three weeks? Well,
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you have to take it, Patrick Clancy. She didn't really
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take it very much. This is from Benzo Withdrawal. He
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posted frequently in there. 12-5-22, what can my wife expect
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if she quits after three weeks of Ativan? Not much.
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Not much. Not much, Patrick Clancy. Not much. Addicted to nothing, exactly. Coxco.
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I'm addicted to nothing. I need another perspective on ass psychiatry.
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My wife had what I am certain was mild anxiety
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earlier in the fall. It really wasn't described as that, right?
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Wasn't she suffering terribly for months and months? She had
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mild anxiety earlier in the fall that stemmed from going
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back to work after having a baby. Or maybe it
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stemmed from her hating her kids, hating her husband, and
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hating her job. because she gave up that nursing license like,
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like it was nothing. I mean, all this stuff about
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she loved being a nurse. I was listening to her
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nursing buddy testify today. It's all phony. She loved being
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a mother. She cried when children were, were born. It's
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just a, phony persona. It's interesting to me that there's
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so little discussion about faking it and masks people wear
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and delving into the deeper, richer side and sometimes darker
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side and hidden side of people's personalities. I would think
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that this case would be such a great case to
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talk about that, but no discussion at all. It's just
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take Lindsay Clancy's word as if it were gospel and
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She said it. And remember, we're talking about mental health issues.
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And the only way you know about mental health issues
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is because someone tells you. You can exhibit certain behaviors.
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But Lindsay Clancy acted totally
rationally, normally, and within the
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confines of what we consider, even in polite society. Oh,
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I lost it. My camera, I guess, is just having
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a hard time. Hold on one. All right, let me
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just try to fix this one last time before it
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drives me crazy.
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No, hold on.
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Does anybody really, does anybody really care? All right, here
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we go.
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Should work.
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Um, yeah, she hated Patrick. She hated her kids. This
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happened with our previous, okay, back to his post. Maternity
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was ending. Maternity leave was ending. Remember that maternity leave
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was ending right as she checked herself into McLean's hospital
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and things were becoming more real. This happened with our
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previous two children and she was able to get through
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it fairly easily with some therapy and renewed coping skills. Overall,
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she's generally a strong individual. In late September, she told
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me she would like to see if I can get
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some Zoloft. She asked for this drug. She said if
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she asked for it, she would likely receive it. Sure enough,
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she saw a psychiatrist and prescribed Zoloft because this is
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her arena. She's a nurse. She's a labor and delivery nurse.
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This is her arena. Postpartum depression, drugs, psychiatry. So a
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psychiatrist will say, well, you know what this drug does.
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You know the side effects. You know the possible complications.
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If you want it, here it is.
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So for.
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After a 30-minute meeting, the official diagnosis was general anxiety disorder,
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which is the most common diagnosis in America. Within one
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week of taking it, she found herself suffering from insomnia.
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She's normally a great sleeper, even when anxious, stressed. So
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this was clearly caused by the Zoloft. So remember, they
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were sleeping separately. This is all reported by Lindsay Clancy.
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They were sleeping separately. Thank you. Hit the like and subscribe. Oh,
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that's such sad news. All right. All right. I do
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it for Wesley. Thank you. Remember, they're sleeping apart. So
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this is all just self-reported symptoms. To combat the insomnia,
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she was quickly prescribed Ativan. Again, she was quickly prescribed Ativan,
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so you can hear his judgment. It was too quick. Again,
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after a 30-minute consultation. How long does Patrick Clancy think
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these consultations are for the general public? Because 30 minutes
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is awfully long, even on a new visit, for anyone
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to see a doctor, let alone psychiatrists do 5, 10 minutes.
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Really?
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Seriously? The Ativan temporarily solves her anxiety, but she feels
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absolutely awful once it wears off. She feels completely numb
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and has even had ending it all, my words, not his, thoughts.
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None of these feelings existed when she sought help. She
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woke up this morning after getting three hours of sleep
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and assured me she is addicted. She has major withdrawals
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and she's having trouble avoiding Ativan. It's been about three
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weeks of taking it. Here's proof positive she's faking it.
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Why didn't the prosecution go with the most obvious scenario
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when they're talking about motive and framing the case for
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a jury and their theory of the case? Why was
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their theory of the case And this was what Lindsay
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Clancy said. So they're just taking Lindsay Clancy's word for it,
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that she desperately wanted to end it all, but she
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was too much of a control freak. She said the
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kids wouldn't be safe without her.
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But, okay.
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I mean, there's so much evidence that she just fakes
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things and she's a pathological liar. When she shares this
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with her doctor, the doctor talks her out tells her
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to continue taking the sleep meds and take Ativan when
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she feels like she needs it. They just take time
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to balance. I should add that there has been very
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few actual therapy sessions, just meetings regarding medication. That's what
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modern psychiatry is. she kept to the medication schedule for
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a bit but still feels awful and can't sleep we're
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now convinced that she should have never been prescribed medication
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in the first place and our meeting with her doctor
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today i'm not sure what the doctor will say but
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my wife is sure She wants to end the medication
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and I support her in that. I can't stress enough
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that the anxiety was very mild going into this. She
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was eating well, sleeping great as usual, dancing at the
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wedding we went to and socializing. Was she overwhelmed with
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the kids? Definitely. But I believe we could have solved
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that by giving her more time to herself to decompress.
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How much more time? She had an hour and a
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half to work out. She had nannies. She had babysitters.
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How much more time did she need to herself? What
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will detox and withdrawal be like if she's only been
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taking it for three weeks? Would you agree that this
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could have been resolved with basic cognitive? Would you agree?
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Would you agree that this could have been resolved with
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basic cognitive therapy? So this is his position, which isn't
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an unfair position to have. But he's taken it to,
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he's already blaming the doctors, blaming the drugs. Lindsay Clancy's
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never a suspect, right? She's perfect, totally reliable narrator. What
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a dupe, you know, if he really believes this stuff.
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32-year-old female. I thought this was, of course, her bra size.
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I was like, why is he putting her bra size
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up there? Okay, 115 pounds, six months postpartum taking benzos.
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This is from December 7th, he's like a Reddit, very
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active on Reddit. From the Ask Doctors Reddit forum, he says,
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posting for my wife starting at the end of September.
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So what Lindsay Clancy is doing is she's solidifying the narrative, right?
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For when she commits the crime. So everyone's got the
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story down, right? He started getting bad postpartum. Wasn't sure
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if it was the medication. Thought I was addicted to
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the medication. Could have been that I was addicted to
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the medication. I had a terrible withdrawal, and that made
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me kill the children that I hated. So she's really
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working on Patrick Clancy to get this script down, right?
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I decided to book. She's not a criminal mastermind. She's
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just giving it a tiny little bit of effort and thought.
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This was consistent with how I felt with my first
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two children before going back to work. I decided to
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book an appointment with a psychiatrist and ask for Zoloft.
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It was a 30-minute meeting and she sent in the prescription.
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After a week of taking Zoloft, I developed severe insomnia.
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She never took any of these drugs as prescribed or
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at all. We don't know to what extent. At one point,
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so what I mean by that is if they're missing pills,
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we really don't know what she did with those pills.
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At one point, I went 48 hours without sleeping. I
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went back to another psychiatrist specializing in postpartum depression and
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they gave me Klonopin and they eventually switched me to Ativan.
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The goal was to get back to sleeping, but for
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weeks I have been lucky to get three or four
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hours of sleep a night. Oddly, I don't feel tired.
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So she's setting up some kind of Zoloft, gave her
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She's bipolar, undiagnosed bipolar, and Zoloft put her into a tailspin.
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I also now feel severely depressed, numb. I do believe
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she felt numb. I do believe that numbness and that
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empty feeling is often a complaint from those with cluster
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B personalities, especially antisocial personality disorder.
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I.e.
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Sociopath or psychopath. We know Lindsay Clancy liked to use
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the word sociopath to describe herself because she was looking up.
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Can a sociopath be treated four or five days before
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she murdered Cora Dawson and Callan? So she knew she
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knows what she is. I also now feel severely depressed, numb,
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and don't really care about anything. Lost 15 pounds, now
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115 pounds. It's also perfect for her Beachbody multi-level marketing
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career to be very down in weight. Have even had
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ending it all. Okay, so that's some of that. There's
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so many of them. So, yeah, he's really like working
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on the narrative. That's the narrative. And it goes on.
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So how quickly do you become dependent on benzos and
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benzos recovery on December 8th? December 9th. Has your benzo
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experience ever involved thoughts of hurting others, including loved ones?
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Did you ever feel like you came close to acting
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on them? Were they just thoughts? December 9th, 2022. So
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a month and a couple weeks before she murdered Cora
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Dawson and Cal. Has your benzo experience... Okay, yeah, we
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got that. And I'm sharing this in hopes of providing
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others hope. This is in Benzo Recovery. Warning and also
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in hopes of receiving helpful advice. My wife had anxiety
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in September when she was about to go back to work.
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After having three kids, she said to me, I think
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I'm going to ask for Zoloft. I don't know how much...
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much about Zoloft at the time but I now know
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that this was a huge mistake she wasn't that anxious
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and really just needed some time help to work through
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her stress and anxiety sure enough she went to a
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half an hour meeting with a psychiatrist and easily got
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prescribed so the image I get is of things going
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badly in the home between Patrick Clancy and Lindsay Clancy
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and Patrick Clancy being frustrated that his wife isn't getting
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much better feeling powerless to help his wife. And Lindsay
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Clancy just enjoying like a cat playing with a mouse,
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the pain that she was putting her husband through and
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enjoying the attention. She was doomed with horrible insomnia. She
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was doomed with horrible insomnia. So it's like, you know,
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and this is pretty much the narrative around this case, right?
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There was this wonderful nurse, perfect mother, and there was
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this horrible outside madness, force, anxiety, lack of sleep, medication,
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bad doctoring. It came in like a monster into this
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home and changed this nice woman into this evil woman
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who would kill her kids. And I can't believe how
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many people are buying it. when it's nothing that we
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know to be true from living on planet Earth. Madness
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happens from, you know, is created from the personality that
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we've developed. Madness comes from, right, our own head. And yes,
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you can act uncharacteristically, but is it going to change
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your morality? She took Ativan for three to four weeks
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and absolutely nothing for her except for helping. It did
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nothing for her except for help her sleep a tad
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better a few nights. It took some convincing, but the
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new psychiatrist now agrees that she needs to taper. She
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switched to Valium. The taper started on December 6th and
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it's pure hell. She's having intrusive thoughts. Depression, losing weight, depersonalization,
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chest tightness, you name it. We didn't hear too much
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about that depersonalization. That was a new symptom she threw
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in for good measure. Chest tightness, you name it. The
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only good thing right now is she's still taking Seroquel
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and actually getting decent sleep. She started with five milligrams
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of Valium and took a step down to 2.5 last night.
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She hasn't taken any yet today. Before all this, she
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was generally happy. We were out socializing, going on dates,
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taking the kids places, having fun. Yet she has now
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anxiety and stress, but she's a hundred times worse. So
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Lindsay Clancy has given him the discard and her children
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the discard mentally before she kills her kids. And she
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knew by killing her kids that that would also destroy
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her marriage. Because the first thing she asked for was
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to get Patrick Clancy, besides a lawyer for herself, was
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to get Patrick Clancy off as her health
care proxy.
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So she knew that marriage was over. But she had
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some anxiety and stress. She's a hundred times worse now.
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So there you go. There's some other interesting things. I'm
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just going to keep it a little bit brief. It's
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already been pretty long, but there's some interesting, a lot
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of anger you get from Patrick Clancy. He's angry. He
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hates women. motorcyclists. He's angry at his parents. He's posting
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all the time in Trump supporter forums, basically kind of
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like pushing a little bit. I think he really wants
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to confront his parents, but is in there sort of
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testing the waters. But he loves flying kites. And we
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heard in the testimony that he was a, that their
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second or third date, he went on with Lindsay Clancy.
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They flew kites together. After the murders, he talks about,
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do I need a lawyer? Can I sue the prosecution
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if I know they're telling lies? Or can I tell
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the jury that the prosecution is lying with my testimony?
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So very much like here he is. I was a
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casual drinker who decided to decrease alcohol consumption to nearly nothing.
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It has changed my life. Ask me anything. And this
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is probably maybe one of his more interacted with posts.
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He's been a habitual drinker since 19 and he calls
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habitual drinker two beers a night. I guess that's habitual.
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just like he used the word habitual, he said on
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his GoFundMe that he and Lindsay gave each other a
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passionate yet habitual hug every morning, and that if she
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didn't get it, she would ask for it. Are there
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any women in Afghanistan who support the Taliban? He wants
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to know. A lot of stuff about his business and
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keeping getting clients, a lot of things that weren't interacted
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with at all. Okay, here it is. If a prosecutor
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is lying in court, this is February 2nd, 2024, lying
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in court or lied during arraignments, can I tell the
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court and jury they are lying? I am simply a
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testifying witness. And he also plays jazz piano. We found
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out about that. And he does not like, do you
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mute the TV when the Burger King You Ruled commercial
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00:41:47.539 --> 00:41:49.760
comes on or do you have a stroke on the spot?
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But I think his most popular post was something that
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you do in the day, but if you did it
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at night, it would be considered inappropriate. And he said,
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I think he said, was it sunbathing? Something like that.
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And that got a lot of interaction. So that's it.
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But boy, she was really working on getting that. We'll
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go over Patrick and Lindsay Clancy's. civil cases in another episode,
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but that's what I have for today. That is Patrick
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Clancy's Reddit posts. Hey, little whiskers. Thank you so much.
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I appreciate it. Please support the channel Venmo, buy me
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a coffee, Patreon, linked in this and every episode's description.
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or you can go to the little thing on the
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left-hand screen. Thank you so much for watching with me.
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I will be back very soon at 6 p.m.
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Eastern.
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Have a great night, everyone.
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Mic check, Roberta strides through the static haze. True crime, Gotham,
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where the shadows play their plays. Frauds unfold when.
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A spotlight beams.
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Fact-focused queen busting propaganda schemes. Glass shatter lies, echoes through
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the streets.
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Standing for victims, giving voice their beats.
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NYC polls, truth sharp as night.
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Roberta exposing, she's the anti-fraud light.
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Thank you.
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Hard task warrior dissecting state and defense twisted innocence claims
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breaking pretense gotham's truth seeker cuts clean with the blade
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facts in the forefront no justice gets swayed cold facts
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drip heavy real talk unfurls cracking cases open like oysters
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with pearls innocence gimmicks crumble to dust in the wind
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for victims of creed justice till the end.
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Headphones blazing, she.
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Drops heavy artillery Narratives twisted, meet blunt objects civility Roberta
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got receipts that unravel the ploy Exposing the lies these
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fraudsters deploy Glass.
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Shatters lies, echoes through the streets Standing for victims, giving
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voice their beats NYC pulse, truth sharp as night Roberta exposing,
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she's the anti-fraud light
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Thank you.