رونوشت کامل EP 45 - WHY DO MEN GET SO DEFENSIVE ABOUT WOMEN'S EXPERIENCES?

I still think if you are a woman with a boyfriend whose skill level going down on you is subpar. You've got to cook there. You've got to recommend a few books. Just recommend. Honestly, just get him to read the chapters of Zayden and Violet. She explains the way he goes down on her so well, and I genuinely think of that when I do it. 00:05:41 Speaker 2: Do you think it's a technique thing, or if that's the case, if they've got to read books, more of like a confidence thing? He's down there being like, I don't know what to do. Or he's like, I'm fucking casting, I'm going to eat this thing until it fucking explodes. 00:05:55 Speaker 1: Actually, that's a good point. It's like, is the build-up part of it in the sense of how maybe... in books they kind of like growl and they're like i just want to taste you yeah knowing that if he goes like i just want to taste you would that turn you on heaps and go and like no matter how he does does it then feel. 00:06:14 Speaker 2: Good that's a good question actually i think it is because like sex is 100 as much as as a factor being the build-up as it is actual like sex sex yeah and like kissing and how like if you're in a group have you ever been like kissing and you're like like touching each other, then something happens. Like maybe a dog barks or the TV, you hit the remote and it goes really loud or something and. 00:06:33 Speaker 1: You lose the rhythm. Yeah, you can lose a bit of rhythm for sure. 00:06:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that takes away from the sex a little bit. I need a couple more minutes to get back into it. 00:06:41 Speaker 1: No, very valid. Very valid. I will say, so I don't like even having a dog in the room, even though they can't judge. 00:06:53 Speaker 2: I don't like dogs sitting naked either. 00:06:55 Speaker 1: You don't like a dog seeing you naked? Nah, not really. Who cares? Me, I feel like he's got his own eyes. What do you think he's sitting there? Do you think a dog's judging you when you're naked? I always say, don't look hurly. He's also the family dog. To be fair, your dogs are both your dogs. Yeah. 00:07:11 Speaker 2: Like this dog could be going over and snitching to the family. 00:07:14 Speaker 1: The tea that they have on humans is next level. What do you think Darcy, your sausage dog sounds like? Brat. Very bratty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm going to go, have you watched the show? Oh my God, what's it called? Uptown Girl. Or Uptown Girls, maybe? I've heard of it. Yeah, I'm going to go with the little girl from Uptown Girls. 00:07:38 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:07:39 Speaker 1: Kind of, she's very confident. And the reason she's very confident is because her mother works all the time. She's always got a new nanny. So she's very independent. Yeah. And Darcy's like not super independent. She's being a bit more independent now, but she's just like, you know, have you ever heard the, TikTok sound like News flash Take a look around Blah blah That's from that And I think Darcy sounds like that I think she's just like Bratty Yeah Kind of gets what she was And I think Henry. 00:08:06 Speaker 5: Cunt Beth and I have always thought this Beth and I have always thought Henry Like douchey. 00:08:17 Speaker 2: You guys keep him in check Yeah He's good He's got you two as owners Very douchey He could like Take advantage of Funnily enough, actually, I've noticed editing the podcast. 00:08:26 Speaker 1: You're a fan of You Wouldn't. 00:08:28 Speaker 2: Did you clip the thing of you calling out? 00:08:30 Speaker 1: I have it there and I'm in two minds of whether I want to post it. 00:08:34 Speaker 2: I can now say that they're a bad influence on you. 00:08:37 Speaker 1: Why? You've started saying cunt. I know they say it all the time. Ten times more now. Your first reaction is fucking cunt. I need to stop saying it. What could we replace it with? What if I start saying aunt? Aunt? Yeah, I don't know. Do you know what else they do on that show? They speak in, I think it's pig Latin. So it's like aunt K. I've never understood that though. They say like aunt K or you could be like egg J for my name. Egg J. 00:09:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, see, I do understand what you're saying. 00:09:10 Speaker 1: But it's just you take away the first letter, say the rest of the word, and then you take the first letter and just add like A on it. You're easily impressionable, mate. What do you want to do? For the word? instead of see you went to yeah what's the Jake what I could say I could start saying see you next Tuesday you brought um broski back like a couple weeks ago you started saying broski a fair bit where'd that come from and you know what I actually don't even think that's from you wouldn't. 00:09:33 Speaker 2: Yeah I think I thought that maybe that's you you can do that and say like broski broski broski I keep feeling the floor vibrate yeah oh Sam is that your phone. 00:09:45 Speaker 1: Ah shit well Oli what we haven't seen each other for what how long a week was I with you last week. 00:09:51 Speaker 2: We saw Noah Khan last, was that last Friday? 00:09:54 Speaker 1: A week and a half. A week and a half, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we spoke about Noah Khan on the Patreon. episode. 00:10:00 Speaker 3: We did. 00:10:01 Speaker 1: If you guys want to hear about that, you're probably going to have to go over there. Because it was good. Because we could go into it again, but we really did go into it. But what have you been up to? I enjoyed. 00:10:11 Speaker 2: I really like how we do things at the moment where like we work for a week and then kind of we do our own thing for a week, just edit, which is like our own time, which I thoroughly enjoyed. I think Ryan in the gym and we started the baddies 75 day bootcamp. 00:10:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. Just a little fitness. 00:10:26 Speaker 2: So I'm not going to call it fitness, a little health cleanse on Patreon as well. 00:10:30 Speaker 1: Yeah. So also I think what I'm, so over on Patreon, we've done 75

days. what do we call it the baddies bootcamp 75 days basically so it's a version of 75 hard I was actually explaining it to my younger brother I said like there's 75 hard and then someone people have created 75 soft which is obviously a soft version of 75 hard I think ours is like 75 firm you know it's not it's not easy Yeah, but it's not soft. But it's not soft. And it's not hard. 00:11:02 Speaker 2: If someone said to me, oh, what are you being up to? What are you triangling? I'm like, I'm doing the 75 soft. Sounds like I'm not getting a boner for a fucking 75 days. 00:11:10 Speaker 1: Like, no nut November. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. I'm doing 75 soft. If I get a boner, I have to restart. I'm doing the baddies bootcamp. If I cave and have a wank, I have to restart. 75 days of no wanking. Here's the thing I don't like about 75 hard is the fact that it's like, You've got to do this, this, this, this, this. And if you miss one thing, you have to restart from day one. And you have to do the whole 75 days. I wanted to encourage that if you miss something, allow yourself a bit of forgiveness. Well, yeah, 75 Hard's. 00:11:37 Speaker 2: All about rewiring your brain in a toxic, misogynistic way, I think. 00:11:43 Speaker 1: It's about... What's it called? What's it saying? Discipline. 00:11:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the whole thing of like... There's something about... I actually saw the funniest video on Instagram and it described me perfectly. It was like, do you know how there's a lot of, I hate to be in this category, but a lot of men on social media are now. 00:12:03 Speaker 1: Like, what do you call them? 00:12:05 Speaker 2: They're not quite in the manosphere, but they use Instagram as a business and they funnel everything. 00:12:09 Speaker 1: To their course. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's hard sometimes because sometimes they aren't in the manosphere. But what would you even call, should we create a name for them? 00:12:18 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:12:20 Speaker 1: Chris Griffin. I mean, what? Cispods. Cispods. Cispods. Cispods. Cispods. Yeah, yeah. Because cis means like, so you and I are cis white men. 00:12:29 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:12:30 Speaker 1: I don't actually know what cis means. It's short for something anyway. I think it's something about being straight maybe. 00:12:34 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:12:34 Speaker 1: But we can call them cispods. Yeah, okay. They're not quite in the manosphere, but they're like on the cusp. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:12:39 Speaker 2: And I saw some video describing how they get there. And it was like, so most of these people start off playing sport quite competitively, but they don't make it. They're not quite good enough, which is me. And then they get into the gym. 00:12:51 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:12:51 Speaker 2: They start growing in the gym, start growing some muscles. And from the gym, they start to look really good. So they get really confident. Then they get some style about themselves. And so they look good. They feel

good. They think they can take on the world. You know what the next thing they do is? 00:13:03 Speaker 3: What? 00:13:03 Speaker 1: They sell a course. 00:13:04 Speaker 2: They start a business. They think that's how I can take on the world. I was like, I'm just lucky enough that our business is like. 00:13:09 Speaker 1: Nice. You know what you got lucky with? Is the fact that we got women listening and not men. True. Cause if we got men listening, I think we'd be fine. If we, if we got men list, look, I think this is who we are at our core. Right. But I do think if men listened, right. And they gassed up some of the, cause you know, back in the day, we've changed a lot since the podcast has started. If you go back all the way, like we were a bit more in, I'm still very influential, but just like, I think having women listen and then comment things about things we say and just explain stuff and then us being willing to listen and change a mindset. I think if it was men listening, maybe that wouldn't have happened. So you got lucky. We wouldn't have changed as much. You got lucky, mate. You might have jumped on some peptides. You'd be tan. You probably would have got a hair transplant even though you don't need it. and you would have started selling it for us. But you're going to get one anyway and we have the girl listeners. No, but it's all right. I'm allowed to get one because I need it. I was just going to get it because it makes me... I was going to get that straight line so people know I sell it. I want that straight line. Really? 00:14:16 Speaker 3: I don't like it. 00:14:17 Speaker 1: I don't like the tiny... I want the straight line. Your hair looks good. No, but I'm actually not... I'll show the baddies. 00:14:23 Speaker 3: Fuck it. 00:14:24 Speaker 1: See, I think you get away with it, hey. Like the way you're... If you shaved your head or if you were a samurai... If I shaved my head, you'd be like... Or if you were a samurai, like you'd be stuffed with your hair tied up. His hair is... I saw a guy at the gym like two days ago and the first thing I thought when I saw this guy was it's time to give it up. He's got hair tied up, right? I'd let it go. But the hair he's got that's long goes from like the sort of like his mid crown, the classic thing, mid crown to the back of his head. That's all really long and tied up. The top of his head is like thin, short hair that he's trying to keep. And I thought, it's time to give up, bro. Imagine you went out to him and be like, it's time. It's time. You ever thought about maybe just shaving your head? Oh, yeah. I'm talking about that guy. Oh, yeah. I thought you were asking me a genuine question. It's a good way to get punched. All I do is just like fawn over men these days. You do. Talking about you wouldn't just like, they won't even talk to me back. Luke Bateman was the first one. Luke Bateman. I didn't even last. 00:15:27 Speaker 3: Night, actually. 00:15:28 Speaker 1: We didn't even mention it. Has Pat not replied to you? Still hasn't replied. Oh. But I was too scared to post the video. And I could always message him, but I just thought, fuck, ball's in there, cool. Let's play my cards right. You say you're playing hard to get now. He's playing hard to get. 00:15:43 Speaker 5: He's playing hard to get. 00:15:45 Speaker 1: He's the one that's playing hard to get. I'm not going to go out there and beg him. I'm not just going to beg you. You were. Well, no, no, I'm not just going to beg them. I was going to try and start beef on Instagram. Should I go on your pod and say cunt with you? Please, Pat. I obviously am very influenceable though because so I listen to you wouldn't. You're a product of your environment. Now I'm saying can't. All right. And then also Beth says that when you and I are together, I end up eating with my mouth open. I'm obviously, I just mirror people. Actually last night at dinner with Luke Bates, I actually, oh my God. So I messaged him asking him to hang out and he goes, yeah, let's do this. So I said to Beth on Sunday, I'm going to go get dinner with Luke Bateman. She goes, you could just say Luke. You could, eh? I literally could. She goes, you don't know any other Lukes. You could just say Luke, eh? Yeah, now he's your friend too. And I was thinking. Keep name dropping. I said, that's valid. I do keep name dropping. Anyway. He was talking about last night. In a long-winded way, if this has got anything to do with me mirroring people, I wonder if he said that he has an anxious attachment style. He does. Opposed to some people have an avoidant attachment style. And so he explained it and he explained pretty much exactly how I am with a lot of people. 00:17:04 Speaker 3: Right. 00:17:05 Speaker 1: So I wonder if me mirroring is partly to do with anxious attachment. Because actually anxious attachment. What's the connection though? I don't know if it's like, if I mirror someone, they're going to like me like subconsciously type of thing. You know what I mean? It's like, they're going to have no reason. Like I won't be the one to upset them because I'm, Exactly like them? Yeah, 100%. I don't know. 00:17:30 Speaker 2: Well, because when we lived together, you were way more into the gym. 00:17:35 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:17:35 Speaker 1: Because I love the gym. 00:17:36 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:17:36 Speaker 2: And also, we used to surf as well. And now, I'm not as big a part of your life outside the podcast. 00:17:43 Speaker 1: You don't do it. You still gym occasionally, but it didn't stick as much. From the 75 hard starting? 00:17:48 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:17:48 Speaker 1: Oh, what I wanted to say as well about it is you can still sign up for it. Yeah. Join Patreon. We're on day six as we record this. But join in at day 10, 20, 30, whatever. Do the last 50 days. Do the last however many days. And then just be a part of the other one. You know, you got to go on Patreon, of course. It's $ 8. 99 a month. Worth it. Worth it

because you get to be part of the crew. We go in there. We have updates all the time. We're having a good time. What was I talking about before that? 00:18:16 Speaker 2: You having an anxious attachment style. Could you switch it the other way though too because like, In your relationship, Beth loves dogs. 00:18:22 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:18:23 Speaker 1: You also like dogs. Yeah. And you love them as well. I just know way more about them now. Yeah, but like you've jumped into the deep end, I would say heavily influenced by Beth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:18:32 Speaker 2: And is it a thing where like it's not a negative thing about it? What could the positive be of that? 00:18:37 Speaker 6: Because like you just want to support who's in your. 00:18:40 Speaker 2: Life and who you like to hang out with. 00:18:41 Speaker 1: That's a good point, actually. I don't think there is anything wrong with being either anxious attachment or avoidant attachment. I think as long as you're aware of it, that's the main thing because it's like you're going to react to something kind of without choosing how you react to it initially. You're going to feel certain feelings. But if you can be aware that it's like, oh, I know in the past I've been pretty bad with avoidant attachment or anxious attachment. And, you know, a situation comes up where you're going, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're just wigging out. It's like, oh no, I need to make sure I recognize said thing. 00:19:13 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm a big believer in if you do have something that is objectively a bad trait. 00:19:20 Speaker 1: People like make it sound like it's bad. 00:19:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, but just being able to, like we're all human. Everyone has like things that they need to work on and like no one's perfect. And I think social media has built this false expectation that everyone's perfect. 00:19:33 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:19:34 Speaker 2: Whereas in reality, if you have something wrong with you, the best thing you can do is, especially to people, who are close to you, tell them like, oh no, this actually makes me really anxious. And I'm like, I'm working on it, but also like I have an anxious attachment style. oh that's so fun oh yeah true. 00:19:45 Speaker 1: It's like don't use it as an excuse for things but just there's nothing wrong with having you don't have to be perfect i know everyone feels like they do yeah even if you think about it right like the thing with social media is no one has a perfect life but on social media you just post the things that are going well yeah no one really posts the things that aren't going well And honestly, more often than not, the people that do post those things are the ones that do the best on social media. Yeah, well, it's real. 00:20:13 Speaker 2: And that's what life's really about. And I think that's probably one of the worst things that's come from social media is like, it's not real. 00:20:21 Speaker 1: Nah. Like people's lives aren't aesthetic. 00:20:23 Speaker 2: It's funny too, because you see a lot of people saying like, I saw so-and-so in person and it looked nothing like their profiles. 00:20:29 Speaker 1: Obviously. 00:20:30 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:20:30 Speaker 2: Like they've taken a thousand photos and they've picked the very best one, which I think is good for social media and running a business or whatever. 00:20:36 Speaker 1: Obviously, they look like everyone else. Everyone's got a bit of fat here or there. Everyone's got a little bit of acne. Everyone's a bit skinnier, a bit whiter, a bit fat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone's like, no one's 100% happy with themselves. 00:20:45 Speaker 2: No one walks around with just like a fucking full ripped six pack with who's been sweating on Melanotan in Bali for three weeks. And then you're like, fuck, he didn't look like that. 00:20:53 Speaker 1: I know. It's so hard not to compare yourself to other people. Oh, it's so hard. It's so difficult. 00:20:58 Speaker 2: I think it's also hard to like accept that there's things wrong with you. 00:21:03 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:21:04 Speaker 1: Yeah. Beth sent me a thing yesterday that was really, really cool. It was a guy actually on TikTok explaining. He said like, he goes full transparency when I used to see things about women's rights and just the way women are treated, all those things along those lines, right? He said it used to really aggravate him and piss him off, right? And he'd be like, oh, what about men? What about The things that happen to men. What about this? What about that? And then he goes on to explain that that is called... It's a certain type of thinking. I might just quickly find it. It'll be easy to find because Beth sent it to me yesterday. 00:21:42 Speaker 2: It's like how your immediate thinking deflects. 00:21:44 Speaker 1: It's called zero-sum thinking. And so zero-sum thinking is that, funnily enough, fucking Luke explained it yesterday at an interview I watched him in. He did it. I called him Luke. 00:21:54 Speaker 5: I know. 00:21:55 Speaker 1: I really thought about that. So zero-sum thinking is... In terms of, so let's say you're a man and women's rights triggers you and you're like, what about men? What about this? What about that? Blah, blah, blah. So zero-sum thinking is in this particular situation is like thinking that because women are talking about their rights and things that are bad that happened to them. If you're a zero-sum thinker, you think like that that takes away the bad things that have happened to men. Whereas both things can be true at the exact same time, right? Like you are allowed to listen and be compassionate and feel empathy and want things to change for women. And you're also allowed to feel the same way about bad things that have happened to men. 00:22:44 Speaker 2: It should not be in the same conversation almost. 00:22:47 Speaker 1: So it's like, it's similar to, let's say you have an argument with a girlfriend, with your girlfriend, right? And she

brings something up that's hurt you. And then you go, well, you did this that hurt me. you know, why, why she's bringing up something that hurt, that hurt her. Yeah. Why are you then, it's like a kind of a zero sum, zero sum way to think, to be like, well, you've done this that hurt me. 00:23:09 Speaker 2: And the brain does go there kind of just like that. 00:23:12 Speaker 1: You get defensive. 00:23:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've got to catch yourself out. I catch myself out all the time if we have a little argument or disagreement. I'm like, no, we're not talking about that. And I haven't talked about it, so that's my problem. 00:23:20 Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah. It's like it's your fault. Don't just feel like now that stuff's getting brought up, you just get to bring stuff up because it deflects. It's just a tactic of trying to get them to feel bad, I guess. 00:23:30 Speaker 2: It deflects the issue too, yeah. 00:23:32 Speaker 1: Like there's this video, right, of I think that there's, you know Jordan Peterson? 00:23:38 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:23:38 Speaker 1: There's this video of him like, oh. completely obliterating feminist interviewer okay and so she'll talk about uh she talks about like the effects of patriarchy on women right and then his way of completely obliterating her was saying well you know everyone in manual labor is men most people you always hear that yeah most people in prison are men yeah most people that kill themselves are men And that's a zero-sum way of thinking because you're just trying to undermine. That makes so much sense of an example. Yeah. Isn't that fucking like when stuff gets explained to you in that way, you just think like, we're dumb. We're dumb as fuck. 00:24:19 Speaker 2: Well, the first time you experience it too is just like, I don't know if this is a good example or not, but like say I have an issue or whatever, I come to you and be like, I don't know, like I've been really sad lately. 00:24:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:24:29 Speaker 2: And you go, well, there's kids starving in Africa. 00:24:33 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's the same. 00:24:36 Speaker 2: You experienced that in high school. 00:24:38 Speaker 1: It's not dissimilar, to be fair. 00:24:40 Speaker 2: Obviously, that's a terrible issue that there's diving kids in Africa. But also, I'm still sad. 00:24:44 Speaker 1: It's actually not so dissimilar. That's a good point. 00:24:46 Speaker 2: I didn't know it had a name like that. 00:24:48 Speaker 1: Zero-sum thinking. And it happens with everything, right? Zero-sum thinking in the way of maybe, I don't know, a big influencer starts a podcast. And we go, fuck them. That's our thing. It's like there's enough slices of pizza to go around, you know? Like there's enough. I think you actually bring up a good point right there. 00:25:15 Speaker 2: For some reason, like there really is enough slices of pizza for every single person, for every single industry. But for some reason, we get greedy and we think, no, that's our

thing. 00:25:27 Speaker 1: No, I did that. I did that first. 00:25:29 Speaker 2: And rather than help someone or get inspired by someone or talk to someone and say, hey, you inspired me. 00:25:33 Speaker 1: We try and we steal content or we're like, no, I'm at the top. I'm going to stay here. No one can touch me. Literally. 00:25:38 Speaker 2: We have that mindset, especially in Australia. 00:25:42 Speaker 1: Everyone talks about Australia being like that. I feel like this whole world's like that. I agree. Like, is it that bad in Australia? Really? 00:25:48 Speaker 2: I reckon just like something's going on in Australia. 00:25:51 Speaker 1: It's just like. 00:25:52 Speaker 2: I can't put in the words what's going on in Australia. 00:25:54 Speaker 1: It's just bad vibes. People talk about tall poppy syndrome in Australia, right? And everyone says it's really bad. And there's all these videos about tall poppy syndrome. There's tall poppy syndrome that. But is it actually that bad is my question. Because genuinely, have we experienced it? Yeah. We lost all our friends because of this podcast. Is that why we lost all our friends? Or did we just grow apart? I think it's a combination of both. I don't think we started the podcast and they just went, fuck them. I think, yeah, but it's not as simple as that. It's more like, I think there's a subconscious thing right there. Like they think, oh, Audie and Jake think they're too good for us now. Kind of. So that's how it can show itself. 00:26:36 Speaker 2: And we don't think that. yeah at all and i think that's what it's just like it's it's it's why i struggle to put it into words this subtle thing where your friends say they want the best for you but when the best starts happening for you they're no longer there yeah how does that make any sense realistically they would never tell you but they want you to be doing as badly as they are they want you to be doing the same as them or worse yeah 100 and that's also another um we that's another thing we learned that is a that's another consequence of patriarchy yeah and i think i don't like like i feel like Tall poppy syndrome is grouping this complex problem into like a simple analogy. 00:27:10 Speaker 1: And when humans aren't that simple. 00:27:11 Speaker 2: And that's when like every single scenario is different. Like some person might be having a car rental business that's doing really well. That's his version of tall poppy syndrome. And then they're saying the same thing with us in a podcast or whatever. 00:27:23 Speaker 1: That's fine. I guess that's fair. We put a question on Instagram a few days ago asking what topics you want to see on the pod. Hell yeah. And I've saved... Let me go onto my photos. I screenshotted a couple. I saved four of them. Okay. Number one I saved was people want us to talk about the women's menstrual cycle phases should be very informative for men and women. So I actually did a quick search for us and I looked it up. Okay. Because I know of... I was going to put you like, yeah. Yeah, I was going to... I know luteal phase and I know menstruation. Yeah. Menstruation, which is the bleeding. 00:27:58 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:27:59 Speaker 1: So I've got it here for us to learn. Okay, good. So number one thing I knew was that the cycle, women go through a 28-day hormone cycle. Here it says it's 21 to 38. Not every woman is going to be the same. Usually a period duration is three to eight days of bleeding. So some women can get three days, some people can get more, very complex. 00:28:22 Speaker 2: You know what we found out the other day, our friend who just had a baby that She told us some people don't get their period back for years after having a baby. 00:28:30 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. 00:28:31 Speaker 2: Or you can get it like up to like a month after having a baby. 00:28:34 Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? 00:28:34 Speaker 2: I was like, and the difference. 00:28:36 Speaker 1: And once you get it back, pretty much means you can go ahead and have another baby if you want. Yeah. 00:28:40 Speaker 2: And it shows how different people's bodies are. Because like a month compared to some people wait 18 months to get their period back. 00:28:44 Speaker 1: Yes, bro. 00:28:45 Speaker 3: All right. 00:28:45 Speaker 1: So the four phases. We've got menstruation, one to seven days. And we've got the cycle begins in the first day of bleeding. The unfertilized uterine lining sheds through the vagina, which typically lasts three to seven days. Common symptoms include cramping, fatigue, bloating, and lower backache. 00:29:06 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:29:07 Speaker 1: Follicular phase. I've heard the word. I haven't heard that. I've heard the word from a TikTok. No idea what it is. Okay. I haven't heard that. It says days one to 14. Starting on day one and overlapping with menstruation. The pituitary gland releases follicle-stimulating hormone, FSH, to mature eggs in the ovaries, rising estrogen levels, causing the uterine lining, the endometrium, to thicken. 00:29:35 Speaker 2: That's very interesting. 00:29:37 Speaker 1: Interesting. 00:29:38 Speaker 3: Here we go. 00:29:38 Speaker 1: I did know this one, actually. Ovulation. Yeah. We all know ovulation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That starts at around day... The way you said that. 00:29:46 Speaker 7: What? 00:29:46 Speaker 1: Everyone hears of ovulation. I'm ovulating. We all know ovulation. Around day 14, a surge in... luteinizing hormone, LH, triggers the release of a mature egg from the ovary into the fallopian tube. This creates roughly a six-day fertile window where pregnancy is possible. These are all rough numbers, by the way. This is all like, there's big ranges here, I assume. Last one, luteal. Again, I need a luteal phase. Day 15 to 28, the ruptured follicle becomes the corpus luteum and produces progesterone to maintain the thickened uterine lining. If pregnancy does not occur, hormone levels drop, leading to the start of the next

menstrual period. 00:30:30 Speaker 3: Bro. 00:30:32 Speaker 1: Not going to lie. That was actually very informative. That was very informative. That was actually informative. 00:30:36 Speaker 2: I even just think like women's bodies are amazing. 00:30:38 Speaker 1: So here we go, right? Actually, I'm not sure. I don't think Beth will mind. Beth got her period yesterday. 00:30:45 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:30:46 Speaker 1: So that means that she's on day, pretty much on day two of the 28-day cycle. She's on menstruation, but also her follicular phase has just begun. So I'm going to keep those things in mind. So what's the date? In about 14 days, 26th of October, it's ovulation baby. Do you reckon she would appreciate or be like too much if you go, oh, for my calculation, you're in your follicular phase right now. She goes, I just started bleeding. And I go, ah, that's menstruation and follicular, all right. And then I go, wait a second, you know what? In about two weeks time- That'll be ovulation. I'll see you then. That's terrible. That's terrible. And then so luteal day 15. Okay. So luteal phase, I believe is the phase where, because it's actually technically, it's the lead up to menstruation, which is the bleeding. I believe that that is the phase where women experience, if they're going to experience a lot of, I believe the luteal phase is where that is occurring. 00:31:55 Speaker 2: I've always thought too, like such a hard thing to juggle is baddies. 00:32:00 Speaker 1: Let me know. 00:32:01 Speaker 2: What's the best, like if you're running a marathon or doing a sporting event, what's the best phase within your cycle to like do a race or compete competitively, emotionally and physically? 00:32:13 Speaker 1: Actually, that's a great question. I dare say, I'm going to assume the ovulation phase. That's at least just from this short bit of information here, I'm assuming where everything is at the most consistent level. Yeah. So I would assume. And like also in the ovulation phase, we all as men know that that is when women feel their most horny. Yeah. Because we're all disgusting pigs. And so surely, you know, you're feeling your best. Like in your ovulation, you're feeling your prettiest. Feeling good. You know, you're feeling your horniest. Yeah, yeah. You're probably feeling your best all around. I assume that's the best time. You could be right. To be doing like a marathon or training. Logically, that makes sense. As a man. As a man. Me over here with my 12-hour cycle. My 12-hour hormone cycle. So that's, hey, baddies, that's menstruation. We've got the phases down pat. 00:33:11 Speaker 2: If you didn't know, now you do. 00:33:16 Speaker 1: Next one. date ideas oh okay good ones and bad ones to avoid let's start with bad ones okay bad ones drive-thru okay are we going date ideas in terms of first date yeah let's do bad date ideas for first date go drive-thrus oh okay obviously. 00:33:35 Speaker 2: Um well i think a bad date is anything you just don't put effort into okay yeah yeah like you can make any date good if you've shown, you've thought about it and planned something. It doesn't always work out, but that's part of the fun. 00:33:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And being present and thinking like, I'm going on a date with X, Y, Z or whatever. Yeah. 00:33:51 Speaker 2: And she likes, da, da, da, da, da, da. And you have a couple of things planned. 00:33:55 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:33:56 Speaker 2: That's what I think makes up a good date. 00:33:57 Speaker 1: Yeah. Was it a bad day for you then? I want to say, I actually, in my ignorance when I was younger, have done this before. Don't do anything That is gonna don't. So this is from a man, right? And I'm talking to men right now. If don't invite a woman on a first date somewhere where you guys are going to be alone, not surrounded by people. You have to think about how safe she's going to feel. So like no Bush walks, right. Go in a public place. Right. And just like, I want to say, focus on her safety on making her feel safe. Like, Think of places where it's like she's going to be– because like every woman, I can tell you right now, every single woman when asked on a first date, they will be considering their safety the first thing they think of. I would say big tip is like don't go anywhere private. Don't do that type of shit. 00:35:00 Speaker 2: Also, a lot of the time too, like a first date, you might already know that I'm going on a date with Jake and he's a nice guy. 00:35:06 Speaker 1: Yeah. like you've been friends you may know yeah you may have known each other for a while so it's like yeah i'm talking like yeah yeah i agree yeah you know what i mean and i'm not gonna lie in my ignorance before i just thought like oh yeah butch walk would be a great first date we walk and talk yeah yeah yeah and then um i just remember maybe a couple years ago learning about the fact that like women think about their safety obviously so so much because men are historically so violent towards women and do things like that um i remember thinking yeah one time i asked a I remember that she came, it was actually, it was good. We had a good chat, but like, I remember thinking, dang, she probably thought she got lucky. You're not a serial killer. Yeah. Like she probably thought, is this guy going to steal me? Why is he choosing Bushwalk? I mean, like that's so weird. 00:35:45 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:35:46 Speaker 1: Um, so good date ideas. Uh, okay. Good date ideas to me. You can choose good ones, like go to a nice fancy restaurant. Like that'd be nice. Put effort in plan the day. 00:35:58 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:35:58 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:35:59 Speaker 1: Um, I always think it's good to have a plan. I think that's cool. 00:36:02 Speaker 2: A plan is the biggest tick. 00:36:03 Speaker 1: I like saying, I like a plan. It's like, let them know the category of attire. I agree. We're going to a fancy place. Yes. 00:36:15 Speaker 2: Sort of show, not authority.

00:36:17 Speaker 3: What is it? 00:36:18 Speaker 2: Like, don't say anything like, if you want. 00:36:21 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. 00:36:21 Speaker 2: Kind of be like, I've got a day plan. This is the vibe. This is what I'm wearing. 00:36:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. This is kind of the vibe. Put a bit of effort into that shit, I reckon. But again, it's like, What he was saying, a good date could be anything. I like a bit of like a three-parter. 00:36:34 Speaker 2: So you start with maybe like a nice sunset if you're a drinker, but I like snacks. And you bring snacks and a little picnic and maybe. 00:36:41 Speaker 1: A little speaker. 00:36:42 Speaker 2: You start there and you say dinner reservations at 7. 00:36:44 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:36:45 Speaker 2: Go get dinner. And if dinner's good, you then go to Sweet Treat after and if. 00:36:48 Speaker 1: It's not good. You'd leave. Unfortunately, you go, I got to wrap this up. 00:36:52 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:36:52 Speaker 2: And I like having something before the restaurant too, because it's more personable. And like being in a restaurant, the loud noises and me getting to know someone wigs me out a bit. I think it does for both people. And I feel like I'm not in the conversation as much. 00:37:02 Speaker 1: I like an activity before dinner. It's the same. Yeah. So I like, so let's say you're going to do picnic. You could bring painting with dinner or something like that. An activity, a card game to play with someone. Beth and I's first date, we went, we were going to go, I actually, I did this terribly. We were going to go aquarium. And I thought, we'll go aquarium because I've never been. Just why not? We'll go look at cool animals, cool fish and stuff. And then it's an activity and it gives us something to talk about when we go have dinner. And so it was actually closed. I remember that. And so then we went to an arcade. Next best thing in my opinion. Let's be real. We went to an arcade. And then we went and had dinner. It really breaks the tension. 00:37:41 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:37:42 Speaker 1: In my opinion. I agree. Yeah. I like the three-parter. 00:37:45 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:37:45 Speaker 2: And then make the reservation too. 00:37:47 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:37:47 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Like, yeah. Oh, yeah. Make the reservation. 00:37:50 Speaker 2: Don't be like, oh, like, oh, we might go to the pub after. 00:37:52 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, don't just be like, oh, we're going to try and walk in somewhere. Yeah. Unless you're in an area where they're just a bunch of places to take walking. 00:37:58 Speaker 2: I think also, like, just book it anyway. 00:38:01 Speaker 1: I think it's so cool to go up and they go, hi, how are you? Yeah, it's a reservation for Jake. Yeah. And they go, then, like, she's thinking, let's go play. Yeah, a little tip too, like make the reservation something cool to do with her name, like something you might call her. Like for you, it'd be Pickle. Oh, that's when you went dating. 00:38:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like when you're like tuning or whatever, you normally come up with a stupid little nickname. 00:38:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me think. Yeah. That's a good point. I called her Casimiro before we'd met. 00:38:30 Speaker 3: Oh, right. 00:38:31 Speaker 2: So I'd be like, I'm booking for Casimiro. 00:38:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, fair. I'll go booking for Casimiro and then she'd laugh. She goes, you're so silly. Yeah. I hope that helps. I hope that helped. Breakup advice. 00:38:39 Speaker 3: Fuck. 00:38:43 Speaker 1: Rip the bandaid off. Yeah. Do it in person. Yeah. That's my only advice. Don't do it over text. Don't do it over text. Breakup advice. I would say, let yourself feel the feelings. 00:38:57 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:38:58 Speaker 1: Distract yourself, of course. Distract yourself. Hang out with friends more. Go do these things. Distract yourself. Keep yourself busy. If you want to go to the gym, this, that. 00:39:05 Speaker 2: Oh, like actual, like getting over a breakup? 00:39:07 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. As in like once you've broken up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But at the same time, feel the feelings. They're there for a reason. You know, you're allowed to feel something. That's the whole point of being a human. Don't try and just like completely avoid it. Don't heart a man. 00:39:21 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:39:21 Speaker 1: If you're going to cry, cry. Feel that feeling. Talk about it with your friends. I'm feeling this at the moment. I'm feeling like at this stage. The other day, I was angry. you know feel like talking about it and letting it out is gonna be the best way to release the emotion well completely I would say I wish I talked about my the one breakup that really did hurt me I wish I spoke about it more it feels like such a burden to talk about your problems to other people when you're young yeah And like I remember going through a breakup and just it consumed me. 00:39:54 Speaker 2: But I didn't let anyone know that it consumed me. 00:39:56 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:39:57 Speaker 2: Which is the hard thing. 00:39:58 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:40:00 Speaker 1: That's a good point. You just try to act like you're fine. Yeah. You just really try to act like you're fine. And sometimes you don't always want to bring it up because it is like nice. Your friends do help you forget for a bit. Yeah. 00:40:08 Speaker 2: That was the best thing about like our friendship group. 00:40:10 Speaker 1: It's a bit of escapism. Yeah. 00:40:12 Speaker 2: Like from six o'clock till when you go out and we used to drink. Like that time I wasn't thinking about my ex ever. it's a great feeling it is a good it's almost addictive too which maybe isn't good sometimes it's good yeah it'd be good. 00:40:25 Speaker 1: To do a healthy habit like i don't know yeah go for a walk 100 no i think so um last one i chose was someone said thoughts on the cornell seven and how men can be more active in calling out problematic men um i assume you've seen i've seen a bunch

of the cornell seven yeah what does she mean by the second part of that she said what are your thoughts on How men can be more active in calling out problematic men. Right, yeah, yeah. So first off, thoughts on Cornell 7. Fucked. Bro, it's like... Disgusting. It's obviously so, so terrible. And we actually... We haven't spoken about it publicly on the podcast at all. And it's so... I think the way I feel about it and what... it makes you angry. And I think what is sucks is like how, when you think about it, so it's like, it makes me angry. 00:41:21 Speaker 7: Right. 00:41:21 Speaker 1: But it's thinking about how women feel because they got like, their punishment was like writing a fucking essay, bro. 00:41:29 Speaker 2: Like it almost makes. 00:41:32 Speaker 1: You feel helpless. It, it would, it makes me feel annoyed that women are like, Oh my God. Like clearly they just give such a zero fucks about us. that their punishment is an essay just explaining what they did was bad, and then they're just chill. 00:41:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, and even more, like, obviously the seven people who did it, terrible. 00:41:55 Speaker 1: Then there's 52. I think it was like 57 or something. 00:41:58 Speaker 2: 57 who obviously didn't say a single word. 00:42:02 Speaker 1: Do you think that's normal? Yeah. 00:42:05 Speaker 2: That's a massive problem in itself where, like, put that on a broader scale. 00:42:09 Speaker 1: I know. 00:42:10 Speaker 2: Like all the things going on in the world and like all these comments and you're seeing an insight into men's friendship groups and how men view women. 00:42:17 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:42:17 Speaker 2: And they probably didn't have a second thought that there was something terrible going on right there. And that makes me angry and scared. I'm coming from a fucking man and I feel terrible too. 00:42:26 Speaker 1: I know. Yeah. And it's like, you know, putting in the group chat, like free pussy at whatever the fraternity is called. Oh, I don't know how people like that exist. And so here's something that's been bothering me as well is that people go, oh, there's more info coming out. There's more info coming about, about. So Jane Doe is what they're calling the woman, right? There's more info. There's more info. And it's like, oh, she has text messages. It was all consensual. People saying it was all consensual, right? And it's like, so to my knowledge at the moment, it was consensual with two of the men. Right. That's to my knowledge. I please like articles in the comments or, or correct us if we're correct me if I'm wrong. Um, but so people are coming out and saying like, you know, she gave consent to this, but like when you just talk about how she went back to a fraternity house, blind drunk gets given ketamine, right. Her choice to take the ketamine of maybe, maybe, you know she chooses to take drugs right she's like passed out in what world do you think that even asking a woman to have sex is appropriate let alone if she says yes or not you know and then it's like you mean for hours seven different men went in there and had sex with her and everyone's like oh but it was consensual and they're like oh what was she doing there i don't know She thought she was going to have a good time. And then she took drugs and fucking passed out and got raped by seven men. 00:44:05 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:44:06 Speaker 1: You know, it's a very, we live in a world that's like very just broken in that sense. 00:44:17 Speaker 2: When to answer her question too, she said, how can men talk about it? 00:44:23 Speaker 1: How can men be more active in calling out problematic? Yeah. 00:44:26 Speaker 2: So the one thing, so when we had Luke Bateman on the pod too, he didn't, he couldn't answer it. It's like, Yes, 100% men need to talk about it more and call out their friends. But there's still an issue with like. 00:44:39 Speaker 2: We talked about at the start with men not listening to our podcast. If there's no sort of mindset shift or there's no willingness to change. 00:44:45 Speaker 1: You're talking on deaf ears. 00:44:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like we want to do our part as much as we can, but we're talking to 95% women demo. 00:44:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, so then we become in two minds of like... why are we just talking to people that know exactly what we're talking about but then again you know there's maybe. 00:45:00 Speaker 2: Five and obviously i think it's still you have to do it 100 and that's the right thing to do but then like for us to realize like how can we make a difference and help change those statistics just a little bit but like you said the deaf ears aren't listening so you can't fucking help. 00:45:14 Speaker 1: Them yeah it's a good point i think that And. 00:45:17 Speaker 2: I can't wrap my head around how I would love to come with strategies, how you could help. 00:45:20 Speaker 1: Him in talking to schools. I think it's something to think about, obviously. And then there's probably people we can talk to about it, which would be really cool. Like that Tarung guy on Instagram, we've actually had contact with him. We just need to be in Melbourne if we want to speak to him. But so I think calling people out, not being afraid to lose friends. It's got to be peer-to-peer, one thing. Another thing I think is just actually communicating talking about it so like let's just say you and i don't have this podcast and we still hang out with our big wider group of friends i think that if you're a man that's just um you know has a big group of guy friends and none of you have spoken about let's say this cornell seven situation in particular i think just actually talking about it right and all it takes is one of you to just bring up the conversation and be like have you heard of the cornell seven everyone's going to say Yeah, I've seen that. Because like, how can you miss it, really? How can you miss it? And then it's like, you just have to be, I guess, brave enough for if someone

goes, yeah, I'm sick of fucking hearing about it, blah, blah, blah. You just have to be brave enough to be like, no, I think this is so fucked up. Like, what do you guys actually think? And if your friends think it's like, not bad, then you're... it's like you got to just call them out and maybe they're going to shun you from the group, but you have done the right thing. And hopefully maybe at least one of your friends in that group that didn't stick up for you when you were getting maybe bullied for trying to say that it's a bad thing. Hopefully they then also eventually they're like, I wish I stuck up for him, but I didn't. And they're still scared, but then hopefully they become brave enough to then say something. 00:46:55 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:46:56 Speaker 2: And I guess to use the word brave and it feels like it's a brave thing to do to talk up to your friends, but it should be normal. 00:47:03 Speaker 1: I know. And, A big thing I've noticed is it's like men find it hard to talk about how men are so violent towards women, how men always rape women, all this type of thing, right? Men find it so hard to talk about. But when you really think about it, it's not hard to talk about. Like just saying in your group of friends like, oh, how bad is it that 99% of rape and murder is committed by men? 00:47:32 Speaker 3: Right? 00:47:33 Speaker 1: Just, just talking about it is actually not a hard thing to do because you're just saying words, but then reflecting on it is what men find difficult. Actually reflecting. 00:47:42 Speaker 2: The whole thing with men is they're always right. And they can't have those conversations and admit that they've done something wrong or something like that. It's that egotistical mindset. 00:47:52 Speaker 1: I think it's the zero sum way of thinking. I think that's what it is. It's like, because they all get defensive. What about men? Or it's not, it's not all men. It's not, it's, Or what about how fucking men are affected? What about how men kill themselves? I think it's that zero-sum way of thinking. And then again, if you have learned about zero-sum thinking, you can then say, oh, look, no. Two problems can exist at the same time, guys. Right? Men can be terrible to women, but men can also be killing themselves. Those things can happen at the same time, but I'm just not talking about the men killing themselves right now. That's terrible. But I'm talking about something different. 00:48:25 Speaker 2: That's the best way to put it right there. 00:48:26 Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's like if you're scared to bring something up, then... You just have to, you know, if you really care, just, I guess, just care. Like, I wish we learned more when we were younger. You know what I'm saying? Because I just think back to times where I could have spoken up at certain things. I think back to times where I myself was misogynistic. 00:48:53 Speaker 2: I wish we learned younger too, but also like, it's not an excuse, but you need, life experience to understand the issues. 00:49:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 00:49:00 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:49:01 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just, you know, I wish I could go back. 00:49:03 Speaker 2: Part of the problem is those, the people who, the men who aren't listening, those deaf ears aren't mature. 00:49:08 Speaker 1: And then here's my other thing, right? Is that's why they don't listen. That's so true. There's always going to be men that, unfortunately, there is always going to be men that rape and murder women. 00:49:18 Speaker 3: Right. 00:49:19 Speaker 1: And so, the only thing with that that I and like there's some people that you will just not change their minds they will not hear you and um with that it's like what needs to happen there is the governments in my personal opinion do a terrible job at this the um the penalty for that needs to be much, much worse. You know what I mean? That's the issue. 00:49:47 Speaker 2: I like the parole thing. 00:49:49 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like the whole, like I was talking to my mom in Canada and she said like, Oh, it just is a well-known thing here that like men in Australia just beat their wives. She goes, people here would just be like, yeah, that's a thing we've heard from, from when we were young. 00:50:03 Speaker 3: Right. 00:50:03 Speaker 1: And cause it's really bad in Australia. And so she's talking about it and we go, yeah, we listened to this podcast once. I've talked about it on here. Like Abby Chatfield had this guy, Dr. Vincent Hurley on. And he said something that would bring the numbers down is if men were not let out on parole for harming a woman. Because they get let out on parole and quite often then go murder a woman. And it makes so much sense, right? And then Abby Chatfield goes, oh, that makes so much sense. Why isn't that the case? And he goes- Because there isn't enough prisons. I've heard that before. And so then we said that to mom. Build them in the middle of Australia. So we said that to my mom. Where it's hot and sucks. My mom goes, oh, you guys just say that in such a matter of fact way. Like, does that not make you angry? And Beth and I kind of thought, yeah, we've just like said that as if we've accepted that that's just why. Why aren't, why isn't the government building more prisons? 00:50:50 Speaker 2: We're already in a trillion dollars of debt. Go build a jail and get another million dollars. 00:50:53 Speaker 1: I prefer my threat to be my, my, I would prefer like our debt to be going towards building prisons so that the sentencing for violence against women can actually be proper sentencing and make it. So there's more incentive to not do it, which is insane to say, but at the same time, it's like, yeah, I don't know. That's so I could look a bit of a rant, but that's, I guess that's where I am. Right? No, that's good. 00:51:15 Speaker 2: And there's, I can finish it on one thing. Oh, I don't know how to do it. 00:51:19 Speaker 6: Is like the first sort of gateway to all these

issues is what men consume online. 00:51:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:51:28 Speaker 2: And it's a lot of the time actually men on podcasts and they say some misogynistic things and it gets a lot of clicks or whatever. And I don't know how to do it. And I don't want to, I don't like putting ourselves on a pedestal and calling out other men and saying we're better than them, but I'd like to somehow figure out a strategy where like, break it down sort of like how you did just then or articulate how Luke Bateman does and you go this is wrong for this this and this this is the effects of what you're saying da da da da da and like duet a video or whatever I've actually thought about because I see I see something they. 00:51:57 Speaker 1: Infuriate me oh yeah and. 00:52:00 Speaker 2: These guys are like fucking 30 to 40 year old men with kids and wives and they're talking about like how they view women and then like impressionable 18 year old men are saying this and being. 00:52:08 Speaker 6: Like he watches the footy I really like him that guy's successful yeah I've thought about is there a video that maybe you make it, maybe I make it, maybe Luke Bain makes it, maybe we need to get a bunch of men to make it. 00:52:20 Speaker 1: But I've always thought of this video in the last couple of weeks, I've thought that I want to post a video where you started off with like somehow get through to people where it's like, okay, so this video is for men and this video is for, I want this video to be shared to men that have just said like, not all men or just that have just said like, I don't care about this because it doesn't affect me type of thing. It's like, I want this video to just live around here forever. And just, I want people to save it. And I want, I just want you to send it to someone who you think needs to hear it. True. Right. And then you just go through and you explain like, Oh, saying not all men is stupid for this reason. Like just explain it. Like, don't say you're a dumb, like you're a terrible human. Just like explain it. Like, this is why it's bad. And so we need to figure out a way how to play the social media game where it gets the reach it deserves. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, just, Bashing men clearly isn't going to work because of how defensive we are. Thanks for the topics, Baddies. 00:53:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much. But it's time for one of you to sign off the episode. If you want to get called by Jake or myself, the link will be in the description. Jake, today, who are we going to call? 00:53:32 Speaker 1: Tim? 00:53:33 Speaker 3: Hello. 00:53:33 Speaker 1: Is this Tim? 00:53:36 Speaker 3: Yes, you're speaking to Tim. 00:53:38 Speaker 1: Tim, it's Jake and Adi from the Relatables podcast. How are you? 00:53:43 Speaker 3: Oh, my God. 00:53:44 Speaker 1: Yes. Sorry. You probably thought it was a scam call, didn't you? You sounded so suspicious, Tim. You were like, this is Tim speaking. Anyway, Tim, we wanted to ask you, did Odi say a couple of weeks ago to you that he was going to call you back? 00:54:03 Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago. About a month ago, I think. 00:54:05 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:54:06 Speaker 2: But we did say you were driving to uni and you told us, that you had some notes but you couldn't get to them and you just signed it off quickly. 00:54:13 Speaker 1: Was that correct? 00:54:15 Speaker 3: I believe so, yes. 00:54:16 Speaker 1: We've called the right person. Do you have access to your notes? 00:54:21 Speaker 3: I do have access to my notes. 00:54:23 Speaker 1: Hey, let's go. Tim, would you like to sign off the episode? 00:54:25 Speaker 7: Fuckin' hell if I do, man. 00:54:32 Speaker 1: Tim, we've called two men for the past two weeks. Any chance you're over 6'5? Yeah. 00:54:38 Speaker 3: I am not over 6'5, unfortunately. 00:54:41 Speaker 1: Because last week we spoke to Brady and he's got a very deep voice. And we've said, oh, and your voice is deeper than Brady's. 00:54:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, we thought you could be massive. 00:54:50 Speaker 3: Nah, mate. 00:54:52 Speaker 7: Asian parents will let me down on that part. 00:54:55 Speaker 1: At least you got the deep voice. Bro, it's deep. I'm not going to lie. Anyway, okay. What do you got for us? What do you got for us? 00:55:07 Speaker 3: I believe it was the riddles that you guys were looking for. 00:55:10 Speaker 1: I love a riddle. 00:55:11 Speaker 3: I've got two very simple ones, but I think it'll be worth it. Okay. 00:55:16 Speaker 7: So the first one is, if 11 plus 2 equals 1, what does 9 plus 5 equal? If 11 plus 2 equals 1, what does 9 plus 5 equal? 00:55:22 Speaker 3: If 11 plus 2... You said easy. 00:55:24 Speaker 1: Equals 1, which is 11... 9 plus 5 equals 2? Yeah, is it 2? 00:55:42 Speaker 5: Is it 2? 00:55:42 Speaker 1: Or 3? 00:55:43 Speaker 3: It's 2, yeah. Based on the clock. 00:55:45 Speaker 2: Let me just say something. 00:55:47 Speaker 1: That was a guess. 00:55:50 Speaker 3: Wait, what? 00:55:51 Speaker 1: I just guessed 2, but why is it 2? 00:55:54 Speaker 7: It's 2 because it's based on the clock. 00:56:00 Speaker 1: Oh! Not going to lie, I didn't think clock. I just was like... I didn't clock that. 00:56:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't... Bro, that's a generational guess. 00:56:09 Speaker 1: That is a generational guess. Let's be fair. Okay, do you have another one? 00:56:14 Speaker 7: If tomorrow was Saturday, yesterday was what? 00:56:17 Speaker 1: If tomorrow was Saturday, yesterday was. 00:56:21 Speaker 3: Thursday. 00:56:22 Speaker 1: What? 00:56:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're too smart, bro. 00:56:29 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? That was a guess. Why? Because it made sense if you listened to it. 00:56:36 Speaker 7: Oh, okay. 00:56:36 Speaker 1: You were just guessing. That was another generation of guessing. 00:56:38 Speaker 3: No, I didn't get it. 00:56:39 Speaker 1: Okay. I didn't get it. Dang, Tim, mate. Tell you what. Get some more riddles and if someone doesn't pick up, we'll call you. We'll call you for a riddle. Save this number. 00:56:48 Speaker 7: Save the podcast now, guys. 00:56:51 Speaker 1: Let's go. Third host. All right. Thanks, Tim. 00:56:54 Speaker 3: All right, you guys. Have a good one. 00:56:56 Speaker 1: You too, mate. 00:56:57 Speaker 3: Dang. Dang. 00:56:59 Speaker 1: You guessed that second one. No, it made sense. So he said if tomorrow was Saturday. Yeah. I forgot. I forgot what it was. That's when you asked me to repeat. I forgot what the riddle was. That's why I didn't say anything. Anyway. We love you baddies. Stay bad.