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What is going on everyone welcome to the part-time nerd
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podcast with your pals alan and rapid dave.
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I'm alan i'm bgd what's up not much how you
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doing brother i'm fine what's up you're fine everything's fine
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everything's fine everything's fine.
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Well today we're watching the 1993 hit nightmare before christmas
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coming in an hour and 15 minutes i never really
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realized how short this movie was super quick it's quick
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um what do you got on.
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It the film follows the misadventures of jack skeleton halloween
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town's beloved pumpkin king who has become bored with the
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same annual routine of frightening people in the real world.
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When Jack accidentally stumbles upon Christmastown, all bright colors and
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warm spirits, he gets a new lease on life. He
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plots to bring Christmas under his control by kidnapping Santa
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Claus and taking over his role. But soon, Jack discovers
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even the best laid plans of mice and skeleton men go, seriously, awry.
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Awry. I don't know.
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This thing's, like, written, like, ridiculous. Anyways, release date, October 29th, 1993.
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Story by Tim Burton and Michael McDowell. Director Henry Selick. Selick? Selick?
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Selick?
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Rated PG. Hour and 16 minutes here for, according to Google.
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And it's a family slash fantasy film.
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There we go. There we go. It's awesome. This is
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just a fun movie. I almost want to say, like,
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as I was watching this. Mm-hmm. And I was just
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trying to think, like, this may be the first, like,
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musical that I liked. Like, an actual, like, musical.
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Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of music and a
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lot of singing in this thing.
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And not counting, like... Because I don't consider, like, the
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Disney movies musicals, right? They're singing a little bit in that.
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But I would consider this more like a musical because it's... story, music, story, singing, right?
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There's a lot of singing that goes on in this,
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more so than I would say your traditional Disney princess
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movie or something like that, right?
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Interesting. I never thought of it like that, but yeah,
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it's a musical. And if it is, and it's going
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to be classified that way, this is the only musical
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I like, and I watch it every single day in October.
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I already watched it today.
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And do you watch this in December as well?
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Yeah, it's actually, to me, this is a Christmas movie. I.
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You know, I was going to ask you that question
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because it shows up on pretty much all like Halloween lists. Right.
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But it does show up on the Christmas list too.
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And some people are like, well, it's both. And I'm like,
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I don't necessarily consider it. Like to me, this is
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a Christmas movie. This isn't a Halloween movie. Like the
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first five minutes is Halloween. Right. He just finishes up
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Halloween and then all of his focus goes to Christmas. Um,
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and it's all revolving around that. Now it was released
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just before Halloween. Um, Halloween, it takes place in Halloween town,
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all of that fun stuff. But like, to me, this
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is more along the lines of a Christmas movie than
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it is a Halloween movie.
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Yeah. I would say it's Christmas. Santa Claus is in
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it for Christ's sake. Yeah. But I like that. It's both.
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And it's, it's kind of a, it's a great, it's
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a great, If you think about it, yeah, you get
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to watch this twice for the Christmas season and the
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Halloween season. It's genius. Yeah. Yeah, I love this movie.
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It's a must watch for me. It's great. I love
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the story. I don't mind the singing. They have the
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little sing-along version on Disney Plus, too, so you can
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watch that or whatever. I like Pop and Knowledge. You've
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never seen it on Freeform or whatever. What the hell
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was Freeform before it was that? Was it ABC Family?
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I think so. Something like that. It was something else
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before Freeform. It was something else before
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that. But, yeah, no,
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I like that kind of stuff with these movies they'll
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put on there, and they'll have some, like, you know, whatever.
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But then they have the, like I said, they have
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the sing-along version, which is hilarious. But, yeah.
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Well, that takes you back to VH1 pop-up.
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Video, right?
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Yeah.
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Pop-up video was great. It was so great.
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And to me, like, right out of the gates, like,
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it starts with This Is Halloween. And let me just
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tell you right now, that.
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Song's a banger. I was going to say banger. I
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was like, that damn thing's a banger. That song is
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so great.
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It's definitely on Tom's playlist because every song on it's
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a banger. He just lets it play and this would
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definitely be on it.
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I like the hard rock cover. The metal cover of
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that song. It's so damn good. There's some heavy metal
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bands that do a little cover of that. They get
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down with it, man. It's great.
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I bet. This centers around Jack Skeleton. He's the Pumpkin King. Um,
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and he's just kind of bored with Halloween. He's just like,
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you know, it's just, it's the same, same every year,
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every year. And he's just trying to figure something out.
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And he ends up in Christmas town. He's going on
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a walk with his dog. Zero, uh, finds Christmas town.
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He's just like, and what's this? That song is great too.
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Like running around Christmas town. And besides, you know what?
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We're doing Christmas. We're, I know someone else does that,
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but it's our, it's our holiday now. Um, and yeah,
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that that's kind of what they, the whole thing's about.
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And it's, it's a quick turnaround for them because they've
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got to do it between the end of essentially November.
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They've got a month, a little bit over a month
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to get ready for this.
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Right.
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You've got the boogie boys, you know, they're, they're pretty,
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pretty great. Yeah.
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Boogies, boogies, kids. One of them's a chick.
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Catherine O'Hare, you know, she plays shock and she's also
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the voice of Sally. And then Paul Rubin is Locke.
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You've got sally who she cracks me up because all
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she's trying to do is kill her the scientist the
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doctor who created her creator her creator uh she just
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gets this vibe that you know she's a flower and
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it kind of wilts it grows a christmas tree and
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wilts and she's like jack this crap's gonna go wrong
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he's like yeah okay cool cool make me a costume
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I need you to make me a Santa Claus suit, okay?
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I hear what you're saying, but I need the suit.
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Yeah, look here. Daddy needs a suit, okay? And then,
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you know, it all happens. Jack ends up doing Santa,
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and it just all goes wrong. He's giving kids shrunken heads.
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They don't know about presents. They don't know about presents,
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the right presents.
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They're doing Halloween, but they're doing it for Christmas, right?
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Um, these things are like terrorizing the house, eating the snake,
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eating the damn tree and all that kind of stuff.
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I mean, it's a military's going after him. He's got
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the military shooting at him.
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Um, they're celebrating. It's just a little close down there, buddy.
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He almost hit us, but it's a fun movie. Like
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I really enjoy this. Um, it's one that I, I
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watch again. I watch it in October. I watch it
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in December and, I'll watch it a couple more times
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this month and I'll watch it a few times in December.
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You know, it's just, it's a, it's a fun movie.
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I love the, they do the stop animation with this,
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you know, which that in and of itself is like
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a big undertaking. It took them three years to make
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this movie.
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Jesus.
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Just because of how long it takes. Jack skeleton
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over 400 different heads.
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That they used.
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Just one minute of animation would take an entire week.
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Whoa. Holy crap.
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Because it's, you've seen, again, let's just go ahead and
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reference Parks and Rec again. When Ben, he loses his
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job and he gets really into stop animation. He's like,
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I've been working on this for weeks. He's like, let
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me show you what I got. And it plays and
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it's like five seconds. He's like, what am I doing
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with my life? He's wearing his letters to Cleo shirt.
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It's all about the cones.
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The cones.
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He's underrated in that damn show. He's great.
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When he does the Treat Yourself Day, and he gets
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the Batman costume, and he's just like, you know what?
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I do feel better. He's eating a pretzel, Annie's pretzel.
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This movie is actually available to watch in theaters around here.
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It's over in Grapevine, and I think there's a couple
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other places or whatnot that I saw that was playing 3D. Frisco, Grapevine,
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and a handful of others. I watched it in the
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theater when they did the 25th anniversary, if I'm not mistaken.
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Lizzie and I went and saw it in 3D. I
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was like, I never saw it in 3D before. I
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was like, it's pretty cool.
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I mean, it's a little bit, you know, pumpkins as
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they're flying all over the place and whatnot.
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Right.
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So, but yeah, no, I mean, it was cool in
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the theater. She liked it. You know, I've been watching
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this since it came out. This is like 1993. I
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was talking to you about it earlier. It was like
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Hocus Pocus and this came out the same year. You
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know what I mean? And I was like, this is great.
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I go, this is like, this is, I'm right at
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the perfect.
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Perfect yeah this is this this this is good um
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and disney actually thought it was too scary for kids
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so it was released under the um where was it
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at i just had it um under the disney touchstone
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pitchers banner rather than just being a main walt disney
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pitcher oh there you go just because they just considered
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it too scary too scary for kids.
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Yeah i mean it's kind of I'd say if you
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were a small child, you'd probably be like, eh, we're
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not going to watch it.
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a little kid and you've got singing in it, that's
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what attracts.
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Kids to start to really kind of watch it.
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Yeah, disarms them a little bit. There you go.
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Well, IMDb 7.9 out of 10. Voodoo slash Fandango is 4.6
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out of 5. So we've got some pretty high score there.
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What do you think Rotten Tomatoes is?
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I mean, again, my litmus test in my bar now
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is Nightmare on Elm Street's a 93. So this is
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like a 150. I don't know. I had it right here. 95.
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95. Okay, okay.
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You know what? They scored it higher than Nightmare on
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Elm Street, so I'll take it.
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There's not a lot of films ahead of Nightmare on
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Elm Street, I'll tell you that.
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There's not, which to me is just insane. We might
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have to play that game one day. We're going to
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pull up some good movies and be like, was this
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rated higher on Rotten Tomatoes than Nightmare on Elm Street?
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I think that could be fun to do. But yeah, 95? Yeah, 95.
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I support that 95. I could see it being higher.
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And again, it's just over an hour. So it's a quick,
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fun watch. It's good. You watch it with the whole family.
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Love it.
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It really is. It's a great movie. Love it. And
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like you said, you're going to classify this thing as
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a musical. Yeah, this is the only musical I like then.
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How about that? Or maybe, you know what? I liked
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The Wizard of Oz back in the day. That's a musical,
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isn't it?
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The Wizard of Oz.
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So I've got two. I've got two musicals that I liked. Okay.
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Okay. There's a couple that I like, but, you know,
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this is right there at the top of that list,
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I love this movie. Yeah, I watch it every October.
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You know, I put it in the rotation or whatnot,
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daily rotation, actually. And then, yeah, I watch it again
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in Christmas, around Christmas time, because to me, this is
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a Christmas movie.
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The Nightmare Before Christmas is a perfect mix of Halloween
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scares and Christmas cheer. Directed by Henry Selick and featuring
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the imagination of Tim Burton, this stop-motion classic brings Halloween
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town to life with incredible animation, unforgettable characters, and fantastic
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music from Danny Elfman. Jack Skeleton's attempt to take over
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Christmas delivers plenty of laughs, chaos, and surprisingly heartfelt moments.
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From Oogie Boogie to Sally and Zero, every character adds
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something special. More than 30 years later, this movie remains
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a holiday classic that deserves to be watched every Halloween
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and Christmas. Boom. Yeah. There we go.
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Huge thumb up. I'll watch it tomorrow.
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Yeah.
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Thumbs up.
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I might watch it when we're done here. I don't know.
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We'll see what's going on. But yeah. What do you
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guys think about The Nightmare Before Christmas? Is it a
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Christmas movie? Is it a Halloween movie? Or are you
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just like, you know what?
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It's both.
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It's the best of both worlds. It's I don't know.
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Maybe it is the Hannah Montana of Halloween and Christmas.
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But you let us know down in the comments. As always, guys,
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I'm Alan.
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I'm R.D.
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We'll talk to you later. Deuces.