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Off the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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Hands to Hester and Hester.
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Yep, got it.
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Five out of five.
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From carrying each other to a natty to carrying each
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other on the air.
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Flynn is back to throw for the end zone foul.
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Live from the Raising Cane Studio.
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It's Off the Bench.
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All right, welcome back in.
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Hour number three of OTB. Always brought to you by
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our friends over at Community Steel. CommunitySteelCo.com every single Tuesday.
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Also every single Tuesday at 9 a.m. We're joined by
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our good friend Nick Underhill. NewOrleans.Football. Nicholas, how we doing, sir?
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Oh, wow, getting applause. All right, I'll take it, man.
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I'm excited. Are you excited because the Saints are a
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favorite against another NFL team this week?
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They're actually their favorite in this game? By who?
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Las Vegas. ESPN. Never heard of them. ESPN has them
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as a 63% chance to win this game, Nick.
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That surprises me.
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That surprises me because I'd be picking against them, I think.
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They got to come out and they got to prove it. Yeah,
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I'm surprised by that. I mean, I guess the Browns
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look pretty vulnerable last week, I don't think. they're probably
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as good as their, their record says they are. But man,
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until the same show, they can like play a game.
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Like, I don't know.
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Nick is shocked. He's shook right now. I mean, we
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were kind of surprised too, if it makes you feel
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like the Browns, they have a whole team and everything.
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Yeah.
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Uniforms. Yeah.
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Like the States around the ugly yellow jerseys. Like, no,
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like I just thought, I don't like it for him.
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I don't like it for him.
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Well, the saints have been great at home this year though.
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Sure.
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Sure. uh oh and four uh look they do make
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a move on the coaching staff uh you get rid
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of your run game coordinator does does that mean anything
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is it going to change the lack of diversity in
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the run game the the lack of success in the
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run game i mean what does that move mean does it.
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Mean anything well let me ask you this because like
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You know, you were in those rooms.
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They put the fullbacks with the running backs, right?
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Yeah.
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You guys are actually considered skill players?
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Is that right? Mid-skill.
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Mid-skill.
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Mid-skill.
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Yeah, mid-skill. All right. All right.
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Well, you know, all right. But anyways.
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So their offensive line coach, Brendan Nugent and Paganetti, like
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they're both in the O-line room. Nugent's been doing the
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install and the demonstrations to the players and everything.
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He's going to continue doing that.
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So for me, someone who's never been in that room,
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I'm sitting here going, well, what's actually changing. So like
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from a player perspective, what would actually change there?
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We just talked about it right before you came on.
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It's the same thing that you were doing.
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It doesn't really, I've never really seen anybody do the
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install that didn't have either all or a big, strong
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hand in the development of what they're presenting.
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Yeah.
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Like that's, I've never been, I've been in a lot
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of rooms. And if I make a move like that,
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if I get rid of a coach, somebody else is
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going to show the team the install in the run game.
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Because as a player, my mind's telling me what's going
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to be different. It's the same guy that's showing us
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that has been showing us all year long. We have
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had zero success. Because typically, and Nick, you know this,
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you've been around long enough. Like when you get rid
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of something, you do the complete opposite to try to
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make it look completely
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different to the players and the
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people around the program, franchise, whatever it might be. So, like,
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that to me kind of asks the question, well, why'd
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you do it then?
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Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the thing that's strange
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to me.
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Like, typically you don't see, like, the assistant tight ends
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coach getting fired because the tight ends aren't performing well.
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It's usually the tight ends coach gets fired and then
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somebody else takes over the tight end.
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Like, that's usually just kind of how this stuff goes.
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It's not usually, like, the sidekick. Yeah.
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From everything I've heard, you know, it sounded like he
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was second fiddle in that room would kind of sit
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in the back of the room. Like, you know, Nugent
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was doing everything. You know, I think he had some
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input into things, but even the stuff he brought here,
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like they've kind of gone away from this year. And look,
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I like, I want to be clear. Like, I don't
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think anybody involved with that run game is doing a
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good job. So, you know, to me, this kind of
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feels like maybe there was something between, you know, Nugent and,
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and Paganetti where, Maybe they didn't work great together. And
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for whatever reason, Callum feels like clearing out one of
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those voices maybe empowers.
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The other guy to do more.
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But like, boy, man, that's like a promotion for kind
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of the offensive line coach who doesn't really seem to
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be doing, you know, like just judging the offensive line,
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not just in the run game, the pass game, like
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doesn't really feel like that's the the.
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The thing you want to hang your hat on right now.
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So I don't know.
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It's kind of like being a, every, everything's cynical.
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When you're losing and it's not working.
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And, you know, maybe this is a thing that changes everything,
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but like, it's hard not just to sit here and
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be like, was this not just a cosmetic change? Like,
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is this actually, are you just doing this to placate?
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Is it, is it actually going to lead to better results?
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Just kind of, kind of a weird, a weird setup here.
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Let me ask you this though.
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Like, Even if it is a move just to placate,
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even if it just is like a move, like a
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PR move, don't you want them to at least do
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something like it's something right. It's still like, you can
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kind of hate on it and be like, is it
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going to change anything?
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But like, at least there's an acknowledgement there that something's
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screwed up. Um, I look at it as a little
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bit more of, you kind of said it a second ago.
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Does this, does something changing in that workflow? that empowers
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somebody else to be more creative or to stand on
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their idea a little bit more firmly because maybe there
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was a bad relationship and somebody was creating plays and
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getting vetoed or they didn't fight for it enough. Does
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it change the workflow in the slightest? Cause it can't like,
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it can't continue the same way. Does that workflow within
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the coach and in the game development and the running
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game development, maybe somebody now steps up a little bit
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more and trust their gut, trust their creativity, trust their
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film work to stand up for like a play here,
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a play there that they normally wouldn't have.
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I think you said a few things there that are like, definitely,
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you know, on the head, like some, one of these
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two guys had to go, like you rushed for 12
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design yards, somebody involved with the run game has to go.
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Like, there's just no doubt about it. He picked his side.
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He went with Nugent. That's the guy.
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Um, I think when you're losing everything you do is
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everyone disagrees with everything. It's just the way it is. Like, well,
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is this actually going to change anything? Well, I mean,
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probably not. Cause if you're firing people in the middle
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of the season, when you have two wins, you probably
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don't have a lot of answers in your building. So, like,
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I doubt there's a magic elixir here, but maybe there is. But, yeah,
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I think the thing here that you take away from
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this is that he brought a guy he worked with
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in Los Angeles over. He brought a guy over from
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Philadelphia that he worked with over. He put those two
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guys in a room together, and something about that dynamic
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did not work. And he picked a side. He picked Nugent.
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Maybe Nugent's the guy to, you know, go ahead. Maybe
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it's easier for him to get to where he needs
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to go without having to go over, you know, If
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TJ's like, well, no, I don't want to be an
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outside zone guy.
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Like, I think we should be doing this. We should be,
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and Nugent has different philosophies. Yeah.
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I mean, maybe you have to clear somebody out and
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maybe that is the thing that fixes it.
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You just, you know, I think we're beyond the point
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of like, well, oh man, he did this.
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So it's going to work. Like, I think they're beyond
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benefit of doubt. Like kind of got to see it
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proven right now. I will say this though, like it is,
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is cynical and negative as everything is. I don't, think
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it's impossible for an NFL team to figure out how
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to run, run the ball. Like I think at some point,
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like other teams do it. Like you see other teams
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do it every week.
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They can run the ball. Like they have successful plays.
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They, they rushed for 20 yards, you know, like they,
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they actually do it on purpose. Like, I think there
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has to be a way to, to, to figure this out.
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And maybe this is it. It's just kind of hard
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to see it. And it's kind of hard not to
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feel like, well, boy,
this doesn't feel like a huge
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change was actually going to happen. But I think you're right, Flynn.
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They had to do something. And if they hadn't, we'd
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be sitting here being like, I can't believe you don't
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do this. And maybe firing somebody gets everybody's attention. Every
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now and then, I think you do need to make
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a move like this.
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On a normal two-win team, we wouldn't really worry about
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rushing players back or reinforcements. But because you play in
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the NFC South, it is a gift that keeps on giving.
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We're looking at who the Saints could get back from injury,
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Travis H and Jordan Tyson, two names that have been
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on the IR. What's the latest with those two players
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or either one of those players close to actually being
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back on the practice field, much less the game field.
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Um, I think with, with HN is probably a week
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or two away. Uh, still at this point, Jordan Tyson, I,
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I would hope so. Like, I think it's gotta be
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at the point where, where he's about to get back
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out there.
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Um, I was a little surprised yesterday. Like if, if Jordan.
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Tyson's ready to go, like, why doesn't he just say like, yeah,
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he'll probably start practicing this week. And maybe in other
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situations I'd read into that. But like, I think sometimes
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Kellen just doesn't take the, the easy PR wins that
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are like right in front of them. So I guess like,
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we'll kind of see on that one. Is that even
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rushing back at this point? Like it's been an incredibly
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long time with them.
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It's November.
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Yeah i mean holy crap like it should be it
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should be going at this point like so they've been
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sending him to like one of those outside facilities like
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and they put them in machines and they really test
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it and they go through it so like if you're
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taking the time to actually if this is like a
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christian watson thing or whatever like where you take the
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time you figure it out you get on the other
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side of it and then it's no longer an issue
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like okay cool who cares um if it's not i
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mean that that's alarming um you know taking the time
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i think isn't necessarily a bad thing if it's actually
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the solution but you know i think i think the
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thing with him is if you end up missing on
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the obvious red flag like that's an unforgivable like miss
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like you can't draft the hamstring guy and then like
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his career is forever altered because of hamstrings like you
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actually have to figure it out so if you're taking
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the time to do it good um need to see
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him though like i i think that would be a
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huge boost to the team too like bryce lance hasn't
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been the difference maker you know they need all the
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help they can get i think you know if you
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give kellen more more talent i think it helps him
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figure out everything else like as he goes along it
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buys him time at least yeah uh he needs to
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start getting out there pretty quick here.
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Nick, it is November 3rd.
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If you had to reset all the records to 0-0
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in the NFC South, and you played the rest of
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the schedule, who's the best team in the NFC South
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right now?
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I mean, do you go Tampa because they just got
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their quarterback back, even though they just won a game
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without their quarterback?
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They didn't complete a pass. I mean, Bucky Irby is
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playing as well as anybody in the division. Yeah.
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It's one of those two, yeah. I mean, it's not
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the Saints. It's probably not Atlanta.
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Atlanta's got the best win in the division.
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They're so inconsistent. I know. It's crazy. I mean, same
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thing with Carolina.
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From here on out, like, if you played, like, a
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neutral schedule, everybody,
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or whatever going forward, I would probably, like, I just
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think I have to go with Tampa, even though I
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don't really know.
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Believe in them um i i got.
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Some block with carolina man like i just for some
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reason i just can't see them for for anything else.
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And like untrustworthy man like they i i was singing
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their praises a couple of weeks ago saying like they're
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the real deal like they're for real they are untrustworthy yeah.
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Yeah i got i got something yeah i mean there's
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just something i can't get on like this other side
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of like bryce lance like it's just one of them
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things man like and i'm i'm probably wrong like i
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just have trouble seeing them kind of for for the
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upside so I would probably pick Tampa right now.
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I think in those four teams, I think Tampa is
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the most trustworthy. Now, I don't trust that they're going
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to win every game. I just trust that they have
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an identity, at least, of some sorts, and they're going
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to play consistently, and they're always going to have an opportunity,
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I guess. They're kind of like a dumbed-down version of
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the Steelers to me. They're just going to be.
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They're just always going to have an opportunity at the end.
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It just might not be as good of an opportunity
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as the Steelers are going to have.
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That's where people from Pittsburgh go for vacation. There you go.
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I mean, we're talking about it. We're kind of joking
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about it. But, I mean, the division is so bad.
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Is there any way, is there anything that you can
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point to with this Saints team to say that they
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can do anything of note that matters, even in a
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very bad division?
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The division kind of disgusts me because it's going.
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To allow them to do the thing where it's like, well,
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like we were, we were a game back in week 14.
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Like we were in
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And like, so we're just, we're going to run it
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back and we're going to try to win the South.
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It wasn't that far off. There were, you know, two
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games that were one score away and it had this
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happen like that. That's what's going to happen here. Like,
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and I think the division has allowed them to hide
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some of their like incompetency for, for quite a while.
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Like it's, it's been a, like a nice veneer on
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top of, uh, where they can kind of, you know,
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smile and pretend that they got like the real enamel showing,
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but like, it's not. And like that, that's going to
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be the problem. I hate this division, man. Cause like
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they got two wins and they just fired coaches, which
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usually tells you everything's about to implode. And then in
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the same press conference, he can credibly say at the
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end of it, well, there's a great opportunity.
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And we like where we sit in the division. And
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it's like, that's, that is true.
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I can't call him like a liar for it, but, boy,
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it sucks that that's the truth.
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Cause like it allows them to kind of get away with,
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with where they're at.
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Um, yeah, I mean, there is a credible, like if they,
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if they win their division.
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Record, you know, they got a lot of division games left.
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Like they could clean a house in the South and
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be close at the end of the year. Like, yes,
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there is a, a, an actual way to do it.
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And I hate that. It's true.
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Uh, I talked about this at the, after the, after
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the Steelers game in Paris, um, But I don't want
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to know your opinion because you cover the Saints every
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single day. But your read on the temperature of the
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fan base, or at least a portion of the fan base,
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do you think there's any part of the fan base
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that wants everything to look so bad that they have
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no
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I think that's definitely a thing where people are at.
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I think there's probably more of that than not at
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this point. I think people have kind of given up
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on the idea of this thing turning around. I mean, there's...
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But there's, you know, everything's like politics nowadays now. Like,
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if there's one side, there's another side. Like, there's another
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side where every day they're like, well, why are you guys, like,
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saying this about Cowan or whatever? It's like, hey, look, like, yeah,
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they are starting games fast. And then if you're like, well,
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I think they can... find a way to cure the
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run game. People are like, well, why would you think
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he can cure the run game? So, I mean, like
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there's no right answers ever for anything, but definitely there's a,
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there's a portion of people that I think were actively
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hoping they lost to New York and lost to Pittsburgh.
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And they felt like that was the eject button.
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And if you're out on this front office, I can
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understand that point of view of people because for a
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long time, it never felt like, you know, there, there
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was actually the real, metrics of like how other teams
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view their front office.
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It felt like there's a lot of untouchable people.
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And then Gail Benson says the name and it's like,
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you know, you know, someone's in the mirror saying like
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candy man once. And it's like, wow, can this happen
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two more times? Like, is this actually a real thing now?
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Like you're, you're tempting it. So I think, I think
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that definitely brought about a segment of the fan base
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where they were desperately kind of hoping, you know, it
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gets to the end. I still don't, as we sit
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here today, I struggle to see the, the, the outcome
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where the whole thing gets blown up though.
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Like I really do. On the other hand, I don't
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know that you can let, let him, you know, make
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a third hire. Like you don't get three shots at that.
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Like that would be really crazy to kind of see,
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you know, you get 10 years to kind of dig
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your way out of the post Sean Payton era of it.
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But I guess it's, it's, you know, kind of one
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of those blocks, man. Like I just, I'm not going
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to believe that it could actually happen until it does happen.
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But yeah, man, There's definitely a thirst for blood, I think,
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in some corners of the fan base.
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All right. There he is, our guy, Nick Underhill, NewOrleans.Football.
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Good enough to join us every single Tuesday here on
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the show. Go check out the work at NewOrleans.Football. Nicholas,
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we appreciate the time as always, sir.
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Yeah, take it easy, guys.
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Thanks, Nick. Other than that, how was the play, Miss Lincoln?
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Sheesh.
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Nick did a nice job there. Yeah, he did. And
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it's a tough reality.
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It is.
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It's a tough reality, but I'm so glad that he
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is real with it. It's not easy for him. And
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that's the thing. He's in that building every day. It's not.
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And we kind of asked him that a couple weeks ago, too.
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It's like if they had– there's a balance there between
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people that have to report on the Saints and objectively report.
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Like you have to report the news and the things
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that are actually happening, but then you also have to
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be in that building. And that's kind of the job,
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and it's a hard job. But as long as, like,
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you're speaking truths, you're not really speaking opinions. And the
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truth is it's not close to good enough.
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Right.
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And the truth is, is that the way fan bases
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feel and how is that they don't really, there's given
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them no reason to see a light at the end
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of the tunnel.
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Right.
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There's nothing to be hopeful
for. So like, that is honest.
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Like you have to be honest. And like, he just
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said it. I don't see how you get to hire
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a third one because, and you say that because it's
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nobody does.
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No.
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Not because, like, we're saying, like, you are terrible, you're trash, blah, blah,
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you can't do it. But that goes against everything everybody does.
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The other GMs that have been GMs, you know, as
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long as Mickey's been there, have been owners of the team.
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He's the fourth longest tenured in the history of the NFL,
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and two of them are owner GMs.
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Yeah.
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So. And it's nothing against him or that, like. It's
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just not. It's been good times. It's just not. It's
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not been. It's just not the norm.
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No.
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And if you're going to go outside of the norm,
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it's got to be good.
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Yeah.
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And nobody can make the argument.
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I don't care what ESPN's got the matchup predictor this weekend.
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It's still not good. No, it is not. All right.
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We are going to step away and we'll come back
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and talk about the Saints matchup with the Browns or
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the more exciting. I don't want to talk about that.
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We've been talking about that since Moby Dick was a minnow.
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We'll be back more OTB.
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Off the bench.
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Off the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn presented
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Crushing it. Feeling good. Heck yeah, brother. Ninja flipping out
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guess what you think about, Jake? You think about energy. Yeah,
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energy got there. Got there a little bit ahead of me.
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under construction after reaching that final investment decision in 2026,
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the project represents a major investment In Louisiana's future, but
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it's about more than just exporting energy. It's about creating
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local jobs, supporting local businesses, and strengthening communities. And reinforcing
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Through its natural gas production and the Commonwealth LNG project,
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domestic resources with growing global demand. And as construction continues
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on Louisiana's Gulf Coast, Caterus is proud to invest in
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American energy, American workers, and a stronger economic future. Caterus,
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connecting Louisiana energy to the world.
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To the world?
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The world.
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No.
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World?
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Which, as far as we know it, everybody in the
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whole universe.
487
00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:33.460
We haven't talked about it yet because, well, it's LSU
488
00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:39.029
Bama week and Saints stink right now. But last night's
489
00:22:39.069 --> 00:22:40.450
game in the NFL was pretty good.
490
00:22:40.789 --> 00:22:42.390
Oh, yeah.
491
00:22:42.410 --> 00:22:47.109
Two good football teams. Really good football teams. The Bears
492
00:22:48.470 --> 00:22:52.410
traded two first-round picks for Jeffrey Simmons. Pretty damn good.
493
00:22:53.029 --> 00:22:55.509
At least for one game, it worked out real well.
494
00:22:55.529 --> 00:22:57.150
Three tackles for a loss on the sack.
495
00:22:57.170 --> 00:22:59.390
He opened up everything, too. I don't know if you
496
00:22:59.410 --> 00:23:03.240
all noticed, but every double team went to him. And
497
00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:06.940
it was leaving the edge rushers one-on-one, and they were eating.
498
00:23:08.099 --> 00:23:10.400
Well done. I'm okay. Go for broke. If you got it,
499
00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:11.779
try to win it.
500
00:23:11.779 --> 00:23:15.940
I think the argument to it, the counterpoint, the counterargument
501
00:23:15.980 --> 00:23:20.460
to it is, has it ever worked out? Well, at
502
00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:23.339
least for one game, it certainly did. And that guy,
503
00:23:23.380 --> 00:23:25.839
I was not familiar with his game. I think they
504
00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:29.240
said that's the first time in, I think, three years
505
00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:30.339
he's played on primetime.
506
00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:32.339
Yeah, because he played for the Titans. Yeah.
507
00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:36.490
So I got to be honest with you. When the
508
00:23:36.509 --> 00:23:38.710
trade happened, and I don't know a lot of names,
509
00:23:38.750 --> 00:23:40.049
but I had no idea who he was.
510
00:23:41.349 --> 00:23:45.750
I do now. He's been that guy, but he's been hidden.
511
00:23:45.869 --> 00:23:46.470
And you know what?
512
00:23:46.650 --> 00:23:49.779
I was impressed with him, his interview after the game.
513
00:23:50.819 --> 00:23:56.759
He was interviewed, and he did not. He found a
514
00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:00.279
way to talk about how excited he was to be
515
00:24:00.339 --> 00:24:02.519
playing relative and meaningful football.
516
00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:02.900
Yeah.
517
00:24:03.460 --> 00:24:06.339
Without throwing shade at Tennessee.
518
00:24:06.819 --> 00:24:09.980
He was actually very respectful to the ownership, to the coaches,
519
00:24:10.140 --> 00:24:13.400
to the organization. At the same time, because he could
520
00:24:13.440 -->
00:24:16.880
do it. He handled it very well. He was like,
521
00:24:16.900 --> 00:24:20.279
but I'm so excited to be here playing at night
522
00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:25.019
in a primetime game, meaningful football in November. You could
523
00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:27.400
see it written on his body language.
524
00:24:27.579 --> 00:24:28.339
No doubt.
525
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:32.170
But at the same time, as a professional player, stud
526
00:24:32.230 --> 00:24:35.130
football player that someone just traded two first rounders for.
527
00:24:35.150 --> 00:24:35.490
Yeah.
528
00:24:35.650 --> 00:24:38.200
Like he was found a way to be respectful to
529
00:24:38.259 --> 00:24:40.019
a team that he dedicated seven.
530
00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:42.839
Years of his life to. So I like those stories.
531
00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:46.660
I like those wins from a human standpoint, guys doing
532
00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:48.849
seemingly at least doing things the right way.
533
00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:50.109
I don't know his backstory.
534
00:24:50.170 --> 00:24:52.329
Again, I didn't know who he was until this trade,
535
00:24:53.309 --> 00:24:55.869
but seemingly doing everything right way, at least saying the
536
00:24:55.910 --> 00:24:56.849
right things afterwards.
537
00:24:56.930 --> 00:24:58.650
And Seattle, a.
538
00:24:58.769 --> 00:25:03.039
Really hard place to play, especially at night. It's just
539
00:25:03.059 --> 00:25:04.839
got a really good fan base, and they get it.
540
00:25:04.859 --> 00:25:06.799
They're a smart fan base. They know when to be loud,
541
00:25:07.460 --> 00:25:12.670
and their defense feeds off of that. And Ben Johnson
542
00:25:12.910 --> 00:25:16.349
and that offense, the way Caleb Williams is playing, they're
543
00:25:16.390 --> 00:25:19.410
just efficient. They don't do anything crazy with the ball.
544
00:25:19.430 --> 00:25:24.529
Their creativity, they're so creative. It's hard to be simple
545
00:25:24.950 --> 00:25:29.130
on offense, and the things they do just consistently seem
546
00:25:29.190 --> 00:25:29.990
so simple.
547
00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:35.160
But they're creative. And everything's set up by the run. Yeah.
548
00:25:35.940 --> 00:25:37.640
They got answers. Hey, they got Caleb Williams. He's a
549
00:25:37.660 --> 00:25:40.049
pretty good quarterback, huh? Oh, my God. He's so good.
550
00:25:40.069 --> 00:25:42.029
They got Colson Loveland. He's a pretty good tight end, huh? Yeah,
551
00:25:42.049 --> 00:25:44.250
except he fumbled. They got Luther Burden. He's a pretty
552
00:25:44.269 --> 00:25:46.670
good receiver, huh? Pretty good. But everything's still set up
553
00:25:46.910 --> 00:25:51.210
by the run. And Swift is playing. Can't run it.
554
00:25:51.349 --> 00:25:54.130
Can't win. Has anybody changed his style of play more
555
00:25:54.170 --> 00:25:56.950
than that guy? I mean, he's had good years in
556
00:25:56.970 --> 00:25:59.670
the NFL, but this is the best he's been. He
557
00:25:59.730
--> 00:26:00.140
was a.
558
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:04.519
He was a great value version of Jameer Gibbs. That's
559
00:26:05.019 --> 00:26:08.200
how I envisioned him as a player before.
560
00:26:09.420 --> 00:26:13.500
Ben Johnson. For him. That's how I kind of envisioned him.
561
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:17.140
They literally moved on from Swift when they grabbed Gibbs.
562
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:19.240
But that's the type of player. I thought he was
563
00:26:19.289 --> 00:26:21.809
going to get to the edge type of guy. Not
564
00:26:21.829 --> 00:26:25.769
an A, B gap type runner. The guy is, I
565
00:26:25.789 --> 00:26:27.230
don't know. He looks thicker.
566
00:26:27.450 --> 00:26:27.910
He's.
567
00:26:28.970 --> 00:26:32.650
Delivers a blow he can take a blow like it's
568
00:26:32.670 --> 00:26:37.789
um i've been very very very impressed with swift this season.
569
00:26:37.789 --> 00:26:41.579
Yeah chicago bears second in the nfl 151 rushing yards
570
00:26:41.630 --> 00:26:46.220
per game only behind tampa bay who's at 167 again
571
00:26:46.259 --> 00:26:48.599
tampa bay won a game where they didn't complete a
572
00:26:48.660 --> 00:26:51.559
pass to tell you how good their running game is
573
00:26:51.619 --> 00:26:58.289
going uh the saints are not first or second They're third?
574
00:26:58.329 --> 00:27:01.220
They've got to be. 28th, I believe. 86 yards per game.
575
00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:05.400
I mean, that means there's people that are worse. The Texans,
576
00:27:05.539 --> 00:27:08.720
the Bengals, the Raiders, and the Packers. The Packers are
577
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:11.559
the worst rushing team in the NFL by 17 yards.
578
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:17.569
They're coming. They're salty. And they're still finding a way
579
00:27:17.589 --> 00:27:24.799
to win games, which is remarkable. Can't win games if
580
00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:25.839
you don't win them all.
581
00:27:26.509 --> 00:27:31.829
It's going to be so funny if the Packers or Lions,
582
00:27:33.910 --> 00:27:37.559
when one of them doesn't make the playoffs and the
583
00:27:37.660 --> 00:27:42.039
Buccaneers make the playoffs.
584
00:27:42.099 --> 00:27:43.039
Oh, no.
585
00:27:43.779 --> 00:27:44.400
Oh, man.
586
00:27:44.740 --> 00:27:48.069
That's the way the rules go. Those four teams in
587
00:27:48.089 --> 00:27:50.450
the NFC North, they're all really good. They're all really.
588
00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:53.799
No doubt about it. They would be winning the NFC
589
00:27:53.859 --> 00:27:57.319
South by four games. If you had to, since we're
590
00:27:57.339 --> 00:27:59.200
kind of in the halfway point, if you had to
591
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:01.440
kind of hit reset on what we thought coming into
592
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:03.339
the season, and you got to pick a team in
593
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.420
the NFC and a team in the AFC to make
594
00:28:06.460 --> 00:28:10.490
it to Los Angeles for the Lombardi Trophy, I think
595
00:28:10.549 --> 00:28:12.849
I would go the Bears and the Bills right now.
596
00:28:13.970 --> 00:28:14.930
I feel that strongly.
597
00:28:14.990 --> 00:28:18.269
I'm going Bears for sure. I don't know. I don't
598
00:28:18.309 --> 00:28:20.049
have another. I guess the Bills, yeah.
599
00:28:20.569 --> 00:28:22.119
There's three in the NFC for me.
600
00:28:22.619 --> 00:28:24.650
Well, yeah, that could do that too. But I'm saying like,
601
00:28:24.670 --> 00:28:25.460
you only get to pick one.
602
00:28:27.059 --> 00:28:29.799
I mean, that win over the Seahawks last night, just really.
603
00:28:29.819 --> 00:28:32.900
The way they won. I'm taking, I'm taking the bears.
604
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:33.640
I'm taking the bears.
605
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:36.359
Is every team fully healthy or are we doing current?
606
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:38.619
Like, I mean, I think you're looking.
607
00:28:38.420 --> 00:28:42.299
A little, no, I mean, it's a question. It's hard
608
00:28:42.339 --> 00:28:45.539
to pick against the 49ers. However, they're banged up.
609
00:28:45.619 --> 00:28:47.240
That's a part of their story though. So I'm being
610
00:28:47.259 --> 00:28:50.289
banged up always, you know? So it's like, I'm not
611
00:28:50.450 --> 00:28:52.430
counting on them being healthy. Yeah.
612
00:28:52.990 --> 00:28:53.630
I'll still go 49ers.
613
00:28:53.650 --> 00:28:53.970
All right.
614
00:28:55.029 --> 00:28:56.849
It's a team that won 12 games, and they were
615
00:28:56.890 --> 00:28:58.150
beat the hell of a year ago, too.
616
00:28:58.170 --> 00:28:59.430
I'm going Bears-Bills.
617
00:29:00.950 --> 00:29:04.460
I'm going Bears. I'm not going to choose the Bills.
618
00:29:06.180 --> 00:29:09.079
I still think it's part of their DNA to blow it.
619
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:14.140
Bengals.
620
00:29:15.259 --> 00:29:17.140
The only team that's won more games in a row.
621
00:29:20.180 --> 00:29:23.619
in the AFC is the Pittsburgh Steelers, who've won four
622
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.609
in a row, and the Denver Broncos, who have won four.
623
00:29:26.470 --> 00:29:26.869
In a row.
624
00:29:26.970 --> 00:29:30.609
Since Sean Payton's dipped back into offensive play calling.
625
00:29:30.390 --> 00:29:32.410
A little bit more. The numbers haven't been great, but
626
00:29:32.430 --> 00:29:33.029
they've been winning.
627
00:29:33.069 --> 00:29:34.349
No, and Bo Nix has been a lot better.
628
00:29:34.769 --> 00:29:35.990
Bo Nix has had his two most games of the year.
629
00:29:36.009 --> 00:29:36.569
The Bengals have won.
630
00:29:36.549 --> 00:29:37.250
Three in a row.
631
00:29:37.269 --> 00:29:40.390
Hell, Bo Nix could not be worse. He was averaging,
632
00:29:41.089 --> 00:29:42.490
I think, three yards a throw.
633
00:29:42.950 --> 00:29:44.930
The Bengals have won three in a row. I'm going
634
00:29:44.990 --> 00:29:45.849
to go with the Bengals.
635
00:29:46.630 --> 00:29:52.579
I'm going to go Bears-Chiefs. Chiefs? Okay.
636
00:29:52.970 -->
00:29:54.539
If I've got to choose it. If I've got to
637
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:57.339
pick it, yeah. They've made the Super Bowl.
638
00:29:58.180 --> 00:30:00.099
I guess so, yeah. It's funny. With the same people
639
00:30:00.180 --> 00:30:02.369
with a worse record at this point. My second team,
640
00:30:03.730 --> 00:30:05.589
I thought for sure one of y'all would take them.
641
00:30:05.670 --> 00:30:07.829
And none of y'all. In the AFC? AFC.
642
00:30:08.210 --> 00:30:09.250
I think I know where you're going to go.
643
00:30:09.250 --> 00:30:09.470
Chargers.
644
00:30:09.809 --> 00:30:11.130
Jacksonville Jaguars.
645
00:30:11.210 --> 00:30:13.670
I was just about to say the Jacksonville Jaguars. They
646
00:30:13.690 --> 00:30:16.400
got the best kicker in the league. Cam Little's awesome.
647
00:30:16.420 --> 00:30:16.680
They're 5-2.
648
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.000
They always say the kicker's going to take you to
649
00:30:19.019 --> 00:30:19.579
the Super Bowl.
650
00:30:19.700 --> 00:30:23.619
They're plus 85 right now in points difference. By far.
651
00:30:25.170 --> 00:30:27.289
By far the most in the NFL. Not even close.
652
00:30:27.509 --> 00:30:28.789
I know they just blew out the Colts, but I'm
653
00:30:28.829 --> 00:30:31.329
just saying they're plus 85 right now.
654
00:30:31.710 --> 00:30:35.970
The Jaguars have to prove it to me. They got
655
00:30:35.990 --> 00:30:37.609
to prove to me that they can get over the
656
00:30:37.650 --> 00:30:39.289
hump and make it to a Super Bowl.
657
00:30:39.329 --> 00:30:39.990
They've done this.
658
00:30:41.130 --> 00:30:43.200
I'm not going to say a lot, but they've done
659
00:30:43.259 --> 00:30:46.440
it multiple times where they've had a really good team.
660
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:48.460
They can make a little bit of a run, make
661
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:50.759
some noise in the playoffs, but we're talking about getting
662
00:30:50.779 --> 00:30:54.250
to the Super Bowl. We're talking about hosting a game
663
00:30:54.309 --> 00:30:56.829
maybe in the playoffs, going on the road in the
664
00:30:56.890 --> 00:30:59.230
cold weather. They got to prove to me at some
665
00:30:59.269 --> 00:31:02.019
point they can do it. And the Buffalo Bills are
666
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:02.759
the same way to me.
667
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:06.559
What I like about Jacksonville, though, you can look at
668
00:31:06.619 --> 00:31:10.390
every team we have mentioned and said, I can 100%
669
00:31:10.390 --> 00:31:12.660
tell you what their weakness is right now. You can't
670
00:31:12.700 --> 00:31:16.140
really do that with Jacksonville. Like Buffalo, their defense has
671
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:20.539
given up some big plays. Other teams have gone through kickers.
672
00:31:20.619 --> 00:31:23.640
Other teams are turning the ball over. Like all three
673
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:28.230
phases of the game, Jacksonville's been really, really good. Like
674
00:31:28.250 --> 00:31:32.470
what's
Jacksonville's weakness right now? Their worst area. I don't know.
675
00:31:32.490 --> 00:31:41.380
I agree with you. They can make it. They just
676
00:31:41.420 --> 00:31:43.609
have to– they got to– like, waiting for a Duval.
677
00:31:44.329 --> 00:31:45.289
Waiting for a Duval.
678
00:31:45.609 --> 00:31:46.170
Sorry, guys.
679
00:31:46.269 --> 00:31:48.069
Duval.
680
00:31:48.710 --> 00:31:48.990
Thank you.
681
00:31:49.130 --> 00:31:49.869
He's such a nerd.
682
00:31:50.529 --> 00:31:51.670
He can coach his ass off.
683
00:31:51.789 --> 00:31:52.910
He can coach his ass off.
684
00:31:52.970 --> 00:31:54.210
God, he can coach. Man, he can.
685
00:31:55.089 --> 00:31:56.650
But that first time he hit us with.
686
00:31:56.549 --> 00:31:58.289
The– Duval.
687
00:31:58.309 --> 00:32:01.049
I was like, ooh. Duval. Guys, it's Chiefs Bears. Y'all
688
00:32:01.069 --> 00:32:03.410
know it. It's not the Chiefs. The Chiefs don't have
689
00:32:03.430 --> 00:32:08.079
a receiver. In the playoffs, they don't have a go-to weapon.
690
00:32:09.059 --> 00:32:12.339
They don't have them. They can get one. They should
691
00:32:12.940 --> 00:32:14.140
get a couple of days left in the trade.
692
00:32:14.299 --> 00:32:16.440
Let's just say let's replay the game from this past
693
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.150
weekend because the Chiefs without like a twitch of a
694
00:32:19.180 --> 00:32:20.769
right knee on the right tackle. They win that game
695
00:32:21.369 --> 00:32:26.329
in Denver, right? If they've they're playing in five degree weather.
696
00:32:27.410 --> 00:32:29.710
I don't care if it's in Denver or in Kansas
697
00:32:29.730 --> 00:32:34.029
City five degree weather AFC championship game on bills.
698
00:32:35.549 --> 00:32:40.069
I didn't that's not part of this question. Chiefs Broncos,
699
00:32:40.130 --> 00:32:43.849
who do you think wins the game? Five degrees.
700
00:32:43.930 --> 00:32:44.509
Five degrees.
701
00:32:44.950 --> 00:32:50.789
The Broncos are a really good defense that does enough
702
00:32:51.430 --> 00:32:52.789
on offense in the regular season.
703
00:32:53.029 --> 00:32:56.990
Well, this year, Josh Allen, he's not young. He's not
704
00:32:57.029 --> 00:33:01.380
a young player anymore. He's got a lot of skins
705
00:33:01.410 --> 00:33:06.059
on the wall. He's got to do something that he's
706
00:33:06.099 --> 00:33:07.359
never been able to do before.
707
00:33:07.990 --> 00:33:15.680
So he's got a prove-it situation for me. In tight games, though,
708
00:33:16.180 --> 00:33:17.099
the Broncos.
709
00:33:16.740 --> 00:33:17.619
Have been really good.
710
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:22.440
And he played nobody, Paul.
711
00:33:22.740 --> 00:33:27.380
Bo Nix, since entering the league, has 12 fourth-quarter comebacks
712
00:33:27.420 --> 00:33:31.079
and 15 game-winning drives. That's most in the league since 2024.
713
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:32.859
They are really good when the game's.
714
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:33.099
On the line.
715
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:36.640
And that's even when he's been shaky throughout games. He's
716
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:37.519
been good late in games.
717
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:44.759
Jonah Coleman does kind of change a little bit of
718
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:46.480
my feeling for them, but no, Denver's not going to
719
00:33:46.500 --> 00:33:50.329
do anything. Denver needs home field advantage for sure, and
720
00:33:50.349 --> 00:33:53.650
if they don't get it, they're in trouble. I agree
721
00:33:53.670 --> 00:33:56.069
with that. All right, we've got to take a break. Wow.
722
00:33:56.329 --> 00:33:58.890
I've still got to tell you about K-Z. K-Z, Interiors
723
00:33:58.910 --> 00:34:01.609
and Outdoor 11. Been in the game since 2004. Brandon Barton,
724
00:34:01.650 --> 00:34:03.230
come out to your space, know your space, learn your space,
725
00:34:03.450 --> 00:34:05.670
change your space in a matter of minutes. They've done
726
00:34:05.690 --> 00:34:06.930
it for me. They're certainly going to do it for
727
00:34:06.950 --> 00:34:09.030
you as well. It's inside, it's outside, it's outside, it's inside.
728
00:34:09.050 --> 00:34:12.559
It's a combination. We call that an amalgamation. of both
729
00:34:13.219 --> 00:34:16.210
have them come out. They can customize your job. They've
730
00:34:16.230 --> 00:34:19.030
done it all. And again, it's inside and it's outside.
731
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And for me, I had no idea, but it was
732
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both K to Z interiors and outdoor living K T
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O Z blinds.com. K to Z blinds.com more OTB.
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Off the bench.
735
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Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn. Presented
736
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by Community Steel.
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All right, we'll go back in.
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OTP. I do want to remind you that November is
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Lung Cancer Awareness Month, and I share MD Anderson Cancer
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affect people who have never smoked, too. If you've got
742
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a cough, shortness of breath, or unexplained weight loss, those
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are signs to discuss with your health care provider. Know
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your risk and ask whether lung cancer screening is right
745
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for you. You can learn more about prevention screening and
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treatment at Ochsner.org slash in cancer BR again as Ochsner.org
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slash in cancer BR. All right. Uh, Tay Tay, do
748
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we have AJ McCarron, former Alabama, long time NFL quarterback
749
00:35:55.349 --> 00:35:58.050
breaking down the quarterback matchup this weekend in
Baton Rouge?
750
00:35:58.070 --> 00:36:01.170
I think it comes down to quarterback play who takes
751
00:36:01.230 --> 00:36:05.139
care of the football the best. And, um, who can
752
00:36:05.579 --> 00:36:09.300
create some explosive pass plays. I think it favors Alabama.
753
00:36:09.510 --> 00:36:12.789
I think Keelan's so much more talented than Sam Leavitt,
754
00:36:13.329 --> 00:36:17.230
and I think Sam's a one-read guy, and then he's
755
00:36:17.289 --> 00:36:21.750
just running around trying to make things happen. If we
756
00:36:21.769 --> 00:36:24.610
can find a way to contain him and keep him
757
00:36:24.670 --> 00:36:27.179
in the pocket to where it's almost creating like a
758
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:32.239
wall effect that's just around him. It's not always having
759
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:37.090
to get to him, it's really creating a wall and
760
00:36:37.130 --> 00:36:39.750
then kind of staying in those spots to where you
761
00:36:39.789 --> 00:36:42.980
might keep a backer as a spy and that backers
762
00:36:43.019 --> 00:36:45.820
got to play well, but keep him in the pocket
763
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.199
and then make him make throws on a consistent basis
764
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to beat you and don't allow him to get outside
765
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the pocket and escape and create things. Um, I think
766
00:36:55.650 --> 00:36:57.409
that's the key to this game.
767
00:36:58.349 --> 00:37:03.489
What an idiot. All right, Matt Flynn. Hey, Our QB1
768
00:37:03.530 --> 00:37:08.119
here on the show, break that down for us. You
769
00:37:08.139 --> 00:37:10.940
guys got to know, I'm not just some guy.
770
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:13.460
My QB1 can beat your QB1.
771
00:37:13.539 --> 00:37:17.960
I've said a lot of dumb things. Most of it's grammatical.
772
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:21.980
It's not one I have to speak of substance with football.
773
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:26.219
I don't say a lot of bad, dumb things. But
774
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.480
that 45 seconds of listening to that dummy spew whatever
775
00:37:29.539 --> 00:37:33.769
he was just spewing made me dumber. That's saying a lot.
776
00:37:36.690 --> 00:37:38.670
I don't think he's watched any. I don't think he's
777
00:37:38.710 --> 00:37:41.070
watched LSU play. He might have watched one game.
778
00:37:41.230 --> 00:37:43.269
He might have watched LSU versus Ole Miss.
779
00:37:43.429 --> 00:37:43.909
I get that.
780
00:37:43.949 --> 00:37:45.750
Sometimes I got to talk about things on here that
781
00:37:45.789 --> 00:37:47.219
I really haven't watched or seen.
782
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:49.260
So I get it.
783
00:37:49.260 --> 00:37:51.460
Sometimes you got to find something and you got to
784
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.639
play Kate to your audience every now and then. And
785
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:57.360
that's what he's doing. He doesn't know what he's talking about.
786
00:37:57.380 --> 00:38:03.480
You know, that scene from Billy Madison. At no point
787
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:06.019
during that were you even close to the truth.
788
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:06.320
Right.
789
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Was it right?
790
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And we are all dumber now for listening to it.
791
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And I feel like that's what we just did with A.J.
792
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McCarron.
793
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:13.880
That was a really dumb answer. Well, I do feel
794
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like to Alonja's point, it was a breakdown of somebody
795
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that watched Sam against Louisiana Tech and Ole Miss and
796
00:38:21.670 --> 00:38:26.329
hasn't seen him in A & M and Mississippi State, Kentucky. Yeah.
797
00:38:26.369 --> 00:38:28.789
Good in Kentucky. He lost a game. He played well.
798
00:38:29.820 --> 00:38:32.789
At Auburn last week. Yeah. It's been a different quarterback.
799
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And he had flashes of brilliance in those games, even
800
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where he, you know, air quotes, struggled.
801
00:38:37.769 --> 00:38:37.969
Right.
802
00:38:39.090 --> 00:38:41.329
But this version of Sam Levitt doesn't look like a
803
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distant relative to the version that he's talking about that
804
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he saw.
805
00:38:46.380 --> 00:38:48.579
You've got to create a wall, Jake. It's not about
806
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getting to the quarterback. You create a wall around him
807
00:38:50.940 --> 00:38:54.760
and make him go through his progression, I guess.
808
00:38:55.059 --> 00:38:55.619
But guess what?
809
00:38:55.659 --> 00:38:56.300
He's doing that now.
810
00:38:56.340 --> 00:38:57.710
So he wants us to have a good pocket?
811
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Right.
812
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Right.
813
00:38:59.269 --> 00:39:01.150
I think if we create a plan, like if the
814
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offensive line plays well and blocks well, Sam Levitt is going.
815
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To show up.
816
00:39:04.750 --> 00:39:07.010
Kane Womack needs to listen to AJ McCarron.
817
00:39:07.150 --> 00:39:11.050
It's filled with irony because he literally described Keelan Russell.
818
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The last three weeks, Levitt, nine TDs, one pick. He's
819
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turning the ball over a lot less than Keelan Russell,
820
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who's at four touchdowns, three picks. Sam takes off and
821
00:39:20.769 --> 00:39:24.250
run too much. Last two weeks, Keelan Russell, 20 rushes,
822
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Sam Levitt, 12. Sam Levitt's been forced to get other
823
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guys involved.
824
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Right?
825
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:32.139
Like we've talked about Jackson Harris getting more involved and
826
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the tight ends with Trey Des being out.
Dylan Jones,
827
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the last three weeks, he's caught more passes this year
828
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than a Lane Kiffin running back has the last two
829
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years in three weeks because he's Sam's finding him more
830
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:47.420
as his check down, right? Seven catches for 84 against Kentucky,
831
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eight for 58 against Mississippi State, four for 27 last week.
832
00:39:51.659 --> 00:39:53.900
He didn't do any of that the first couple weeks.
833
00:39:54.219 --> 00:39:56.420
Sam's gotten better at this. Oh, and by the way,
834
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Keelan Russell being more talented and accurate, Sam Leavitt has
835
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a better completion percentage on the entire year than Keelan
836
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Russell does. He described his own quarterback. He didn't describe
837
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Sam Leavitt.
838
00:40:06.619 --> 00:40:08.059
Well, it's also just uneducated.
839
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Yeah, no, it's an ignorance. comment and take by him. Look, again,
840
00:40:17.500 --> 00:40:21.039
he probably someone asked him to come on a show. Hey,
841
00:40:21.059 --> 00:40:24.320
talk about the game. That's his show?
842
00:40:24.380 --> 00:40:25.590
I think so.
843
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:29.010
I'm pretty sure but I don't want to give out
844
00:40:29.050 --> 00:40:32.309
false information. I just don't know how you say that
845
00:40:32.329 --> 00:40:33.309
with so much conviction.
846
00:40:33.610 --> 00:40:36.469
He didn't even look good when he said it. No.
847
00:40:38.409 --> 00:40:40.469
I'd argue with what he said. So much more talent.
848
00:40:41.210 --> 00:40:45.110
Sam Levin's pretty damn talented. Are you confused? No, Russell's
849
00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:46.289
talented as all get out.
850
00:40:46.309 --> 00:40:49.469
Sam's a better runner. And again, the wrong numbers favor
851
00:40:49.510 --> 00:40:51.710
Sam in the passing game. So what is Russell better
852
00:40:51.829 --> 00:40:52.550
at at this point?
853
00:40:52.730 --> 00:40:55.449
I get placating your audience, but that's just like you
854
00:40:55.489 --> 00:40:58.980
can placate your audience without being straight up uneducated about
855
00:40:59.019 --> 00:40:59.619
what you're saying.
856
00:40:59.659 --> 00:41:01.320
He's just one read guy. He's just one read guy.
857
00:41:01.340 --> 00:41:01.880
No, he's not.
858
00:41:01.940 --> 00:41:04.699
You created a wall around him. All right, we got
859
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:06.280
to take a break. We'll take that break. We'll wrap
860
00:41:06.300 --> 00:41:07.579
it up with a little Ask of the Bench brought
861
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:09.360
to you by Dos Equis when we come back here
862
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:10.019
on OTB.
863
00:41:10.949 --> 00:41:11.590
Off the bench.
864
00:41:12.050 --> 00:41:17.789
Go to getgordon.com. Gordon McKernan, injury attorney. Throughout the state
865
00:41:17.809 --> 00:41:20.489
of Louisiana. From the top to the bottom and everywhere
866
00:41:20.510 --> 00:41:24.409
in between. Everywhere. Every area code. In fact, no matter
867
00:41:24.449 --> 00:41:27.570
where you're at, just put your area code followed by 888-8888.
868
00:41:27.989 --> 00:41:33.179
Have a conversation with them right now. Also, if you
869
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:35.199
want to have it online, guess what? A little live
870
00:41:35.260 --> 00:41:37.280
agent is going to pop up when you go to getgordon.com.
871
00:41:37.730 --> 00:41:39.269
You can have it right there on the website as well.
872
00:41:39.389 --> 00:41:41.239
A lot of ways to get in contact with the G-Team.
873
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:42.820
Get Gordon and get it done. There's a lot of
874
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:44.079
ways to get in contact with them.
875
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:47.079
So if you have been injured, if there is an
876
00:41:47.260 --> 00:41:50.530
accident that has happened, it's, well, these things are not
877
00:41:50.630 --> 00:41:52.630
planned for. You're not planning on it. You don't wake
878
00:41:52.670 --> 00:41:54.769
up one day, ninja flip out of bed and be like,
879
00:41:54.789 --> 00:41:55.230
I'm going to get in.
880
00:41:55.210 --> 00:41:56.929
A car accident today. It just, that doesn't happen. These
881
00:41:56.989 --> 00:41:58.920
are accidents. They're unexpected.
882
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.260
You might not know exactly what to do, but we're
883
00:42:01.300 --> 00:42:05.239
telling you exactly what to do. Call 888-8888 anywhere in
884
00:42:05.260 --> 00:42:08.530
the state of Louisiana or go to getgordon.com. Start that conversation.
885
00:42:08.550 --> 00:42:10.469
Get the G guarantee, which means they will fight for
886
00:42:10.489 --> 00:42:11.710
you and you don't pay unless they win.
887
00:42:11.750 --> 00:42:12.570
Go to getgordon.com.
888
00:42:15.929 --> 00:42:19.269
Off the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn presented
889
00:42:19.309 --> 00:42:20.230
by Community Steel.
890
00:42:43.070 --> 00:42:49.579
All right, welcome back at OTB. A little ask of
891
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:53.449
the bench. Brought to you by Dosik.
892
00:42:55.829 --> 00:42:56.969
Look, look, look, look, look.
893
00:42:58.289 --> 00:43:00.820
Marla could never. Uh-oh. Hashtag Ask the Bench.
894
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:03.460
Did you like the.
895
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:07.059
Jaguar uniforms this past weekend? Looked a little like UCLA.
896
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:09.039
Hated them. No, I didn't like them very much. Just
897
00:43:09.059 --> 00:43:10.840
go back to your old ones, like the Mark Brunel days.
898
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:11.320
Those are awesome.
899
00:43:11.340 --> 00:43:12.480
Yeah, didn't like the teal helmet.
900
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:16.340
You got to sound like you had a lot of
901
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:16.969
fun at parties.
902
00:43:18.130 --> 00:43:19.650
Their
old uniforms are almost perfect.
903
00:43:19.670 --> 00:43:20.510
I don't think I saw them.
904
00:43:20.949 --> 00:43:21.650
I don't think I saw them.
905
00:43:21.670 --> 00:43:22.650
So the helmet was teal.
906
00:43:22.710 --> 00:43:23.150
They're bad.
907
00:43:23.170 --> 00:43:23.449
Okay, I.
908
00:43:25.289 --> 00:43:32.389
Don't mind that. Didn't look great. Hashtag ask the bench.
909
00:43:32.550 --> 00:43:36.340
Rouse's has a new liquid IV hot chocolate flavor.
910
00:43:36.659 --> 00:43:37.619
Oh, that sounds nasty.
911
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.820
For the holidays, when is the My High releasing their
912
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:42.639
Christmas flavor? I'll tell you.
913
00:43:42.860 --> 00:43:45.679
I do like peppermint, but hot chocolate doesn't sound like.
914
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.960
It'd be good. No, that stuff will kill you.
915
00:43:48.139 --> 00:43:50.079
A peppermint one actually might be fire.
916
00:43:50.099 --> 00:43:51.500
Drink My High. DreamMyHigh.com.
917
00:43:52.380 --> 00:43:53.599
I don't really have an issue with those.
918
00:43:54.579 --> 00:43:56.949
I mean, it's one time. I mean, yeah, I'm not
919
00:43:56.989 --> 00:44:00.550
like old man, but I really like their throwbacks.
920
00:44:00.610 --> 00:44:01.710
They're kind of cool.
921
00:44:01.909 --> 00:44:03.449
I wish they would wear their throwbacks.
922
00:44:03.469 --> 00:44:04.130
I like the numbers.
923
00:44:04.210 --> 00:44:06.150
I'm looking at one picture. I got it. It's a
924
00:44:06.190 --> 00:44:07.449
nice filter. It's the helmet that I don't like. I
925
00:44:07.449 --> 00:44:09.130
like the jersey. Yeah, I don't like the teal helmet.
926
00:44:09.150 --> 00:44:11.429
I like the helmet. The jersey's nice. I kind of
927
00:44:11.449 --> 00:44:14.449
like the helmet. Certainly not the worst thing, but it's
928
00:44:14.510 --> 00:44:20.960
not my favorite. Hashtag ask the bench. Am I a
929
00:44:20.980 --> 00:44:22.880
bad person because I want to see the women's basketball
930
00:44:22.900 --> 00:44:24.280
team win one of these games by 100?
931
00:44:24.260 --> 00:44:24.320
No.
932
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:24.460
No. No.
933
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:26.739
Why would you be?
934
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:33.579
Cobra Kai mentality. Punch first. Strike first. Strike first.
935
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:33.869
There we go.
936
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.739
Ask the bench, did you know Styx is the greatest
937
00:44:36.780 --> 00:44:40.239
American rock band and that they only caught a bad
938
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:45.289
rap because most critics are cynical a-holes? I don't like Styx,
939
00:44:45.650 --> 00:44:48.530
and not because their music's not good, but because I
940
00:44:48.570 --> 00:44:50.769
had to live through this song as I lost in
941
00:44:50.789 --> 00:44:55.829
the playoffs in Pittsburgh. Multiple times in Pittsburgh did I lose.
942
00:44:55.869 --> 00:44:57.670
I was 0 for 3 there. And one time they
943
00:44:57.690 --> 00:45:00.260
were playing this song live on the field in the snow.
944
00:45:00.739 --> 00:45:02.300
I'm kind of mad Alondra picked it, to be honest
945
00:45:02.340 --> 00:45:05.619
with you. I don't know if I agree with that.
946
00:45:05.659 --> 00:45:06.780
I'm kind of pissed off right now.
947
00:45:07.699 --> 00:45:09.199
I don't know if I agree that they're the greatest
948
00:45:09.380 --> 00:45:10.219
American rock band.
949
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:12.500
They're great, but.
950
00:45:12.739 --> 00:45:15.519
This song was good before I went to Pittsburgh.
951
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.039
Underrated great American rock band, the Black Crows.
952
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:20.219
Black Crows are good.
953
00:45:23.050 --> 00:45:25.070
My little girl, Hemi, loves Come Sail Away.
954
00:45:25.170 --> 00:45:28.739
Hashtag Ask the Bench. It's election day. Who's got your vote?
955
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:30.900
OTB or AFR?
956
00:45:31.059 --> 00:45:33.159
OTB for life.
957
00:45:33.219 --> 00:45:35.980
We won't even text you. Sweet. We love you.
958
00:45:36.820 --> 00:45:37.579
Off the bench.
959
00:45:39.099 --> 00:45:41.449
We won't even. We might email you.
960
00:45:41.670 --> 00:45:42.150
Maybe.
961
00:45:42.730 --> 00:45:50.610
Soft maybe. Go to GoTommies.com, G-E-A-U-X, TommiesWillowEye.com, Tommies Windows, Doors,
962
00:45:50.829 --> 00:45:56.079
and Siding, where you'll clearly see the difference. Award-winning difference, actually.
963
00:45:56.300 --> 00:45:59.059
Every year since 2016, Angie's Super Service Award, that's gone
964
00:45:59.099 --> 00:46:02.119
to Tommy and the team. Best Windows in the Abacate
965
00:46:02.219 --> 00:46:05.429
in 2025. You guessed it, Tommies Windows, Doors, and Siding.
966
00:46:05.449 --> 00:46:07.690
They can customize your job. Go check out a gallery
967
00:46:07.710 --> 00:46:11.130
of work as well on their website. Again, that's GoTommies.com.
968
00:46:11.420 --> 00:46:13.699
They had a trophy room for all their trophies, but
969
00:46:13.739 --> 00:46:15.900
they had to build another one, a whole bigger one.
970
00:46:16.739 --> 00:46:19.099
They had to renovate, and they used their own window
971
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:21.800
stores and sign-ins in that renovation. Go Tommies. Go Tommies.com.
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They win awards every single year. So if you have
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a project happening, maybe you've got an old house, you've
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got to replace a few things. Maybe you're building a
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brand-new house that's from scratch. Well, make sure you do
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yourself a favor. Call Tommy and his team. Let them
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show you why they win awards every single year.
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Go to GoTommies.com.