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Speaker 1: UCLA remains unbeaten as they defeated Minnesota 34-20. UCLA is now 9-0 for the first time since 1998. The Bruins tie Deffenbach through for 303 yards, three touchdowns against Minnesota on just eight completions. Let that sink in, Joe Ocho. He had eight completions. He had two to the wide receiver for 150 yards and two touchdowns, Joe.
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Speaker 2: Damn!
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Speaker 1: He had three straight completions that went for touchdowns. I don't know what, I mean, I'm like, bro, are y'all not gonna like, y'all just gonna let number one run post patterns, touchdown.
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Speaker 3: Post pattern, touchdown. I'm like, really?
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Speaker 4: Hey, that's insane. Y'all ever heard of that? Eight completions for 303 yards, bro? Them straight bombs. Them ain't nothing but bombs.
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Speaker 5: That do sound like numbers when you're playing against a bunch of kids. And they can't do nothing with you.
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Speaker 6: That's what it sound like.
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Speaker 4: Damn.
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Speaker 3: Think about it.
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Speaker 1: Aiden Mazel had two catches, a buck 50, two touchdowns. Samajay Morgan, one catch, 54 yards. Wayne Knight, one catch, 28 yards. Noah Fox Forrest, one catch, 27 yards, a touchdown. Brian Rowe Jr., one catch, 26 yards. Leland Smith, one catch, 13 yards. Javion Thomas, he brought the average down. He had one catch for five yards.
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Speaker 3: Damn. I was like, bro. I asked the question.
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Speaker 1: I say, is that the coordinator calling the defense or is that just the players.
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Speaker 3: On the defense? Hey, that's a hell of a day, boy. 50% of his passes for 303 yards.
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Speaker 6: At UCLA, they definitely got to go up two, huh?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I mean, they at eight, they got to go top five.
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Speaker 1: Alabama's going to be– the question is, I think– I don't think Miami drops farther than like seven.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: Georgia's going to go to one. Utah is going to probably stay where they are. I think there's a scenario where Alabama can go to three or four.
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Speaker 3: Where they at now?
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Speaker 6: Oh, with two losses?
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Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
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Speaker 6: Listen, UCLA is not.
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Speaker 1: What do you think was more impressive, Alabama beating LSU by how they beat them on the road or Tennessee beating Kentucky at home? Or Notre Dame beating Miami at home. Of those three games, which do you think the most impressive one was?
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Speaker 3: Alabama, of course.
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Speaker 2: Alabama.
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Speaker 3: I think that's how the voters are going to see it also.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I mean, they're going to have to show UCLA some respect.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: UCLA is probably going to run the table. If they're already at five or eight.
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Speaker 3: They're eight.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. If they're
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at eight right now, the next three games is a very winnable gauntlet. Man, they got Illinois, Michigan, and USC.
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Speaker 1: Now, USC is going to be because you know that's a rivalry.
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Speaker 3: Rivalry, yeah. Yeah, Illinois, Michigan.
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Speaker 1: How about Bob Chesney?
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Speaker 3: Before we go, the quarterback, Ochoa.
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Speaker 1: That's the fewest completions in a 300-yard game in the FBS since 1995.
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Speaker 3: Damn. Who was it? They didn't say who it was? No. Damn.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this joke had three completions, 200 yards. How about Bob Chesney doing it his first year at UCLA, the only FBS coaches in the last 30 seasons to start their first season with a 9-0, with three-plus turnovers per game, Bob Chesney, UCLA, and Larry Coker, University of Miami. University of Miami won the national championship that year. The question is, is he the interim?
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Speaker 3: Didn't he the interim? They fired the head coach, right?
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: I think he's filling in. Or is he a... Let's.
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Speaker 1: See here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Oh, he's the head coach?
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 3: But they look pretty good.
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Speaker 1: Look, I thought Minnesota let one get away last week when they let Indiana off the hook because they had that game. Give Indiana credit because Minnesota kicker made a 60-yarder to take the lead. Indiana kicker comes back, nails a 60-yarder to tie the game. And then Charlie Becker takes the game over in overtime. In an interview with Bill Simmons, says it's hard to coach Giannis during his tenure with the Bucs. Let's take a listen to what Doc Rivers had to say about Giannis.
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Speaker 3: It's not easy.
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Speaker 2: It's not easy because he plays at this crazy downhill pace. He's really a difficult guy. I was telling someone this. He has this great passing ability. But he doesn't necessarily have the super IQ at the same time. It's really a strange thing. And he really has one way. Downhill, force, force, force. Like every play, he wants to force it. And there's times where I wish he did one thing. I wish he learned how to execute better. He's one of those guys that you get a lot of them from the U.S.
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Speaker 1: A.U.
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Speaker 2: Guys that have never needed to execute because they can do it on their own.
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Speaker 3: But that doesn't help the team.
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Speaker 2: And, like, I think, and I told Giannis this, the thing he needs to still learn is the value of execution, how important it is when you're in practice and in shoot-arounds to lock in on execution. And now he has a coach who is as good as there is in execution.
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Speaker 3: Hey.
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Speaker 6: I'm confused.
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Speaker 3: You confused? What you confused about?
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Speaker 6: He talk about.
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Speaker 3: MVP. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Giannis. Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Giannis that won a championship ring.
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Speaker 5: For the Bucs.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. You can help me, Joe.
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Speaker 6: Help me understand.
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Speaker 4: Well, I kind of understand where Doc Rivers is coming from, Uncle Ochoa, considering the fact that he's saying Giannis is a downhill demon. Giannis is a scoring power forward. He ain't no damn– he passing when he ain't got his options.
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Speaker 3: Nothing else.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, when he ain't got nothing else. Like, he's not really coming down to be this facilitator. Okay, let me get him involved. Let me get him. Look, he looking at his man. He thinking, man, ain't no way in hell you can stay in front of me. You feel me? And if you just so happen do, then I'm going to five ball this thing to the corner over there. But I'm going to the rim, and you ain't stopping me. That's why when you guard him, it has to be boxing elbows. Because if he see a crease, Ocho... His big, tall butt, he going to get through that crease, bro. He going to get through that crease. He trying to score the ball. That man trying to score 30 points every night, 30 and 15. He trying to get that every night.
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Speaker 6: But why would Doc even say that, though?
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Speaker 5: Because he coached him.
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Speaker 3: Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, Joe, Joe, before you go any further. Chat, Joe, you can attest to this.
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Speaker 1: Ocho said he want coaches and players to be more honest, more truthful when they talk.
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Speaker 3: Did he not say that, Joe? Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Chad, did Ocho not say that? Now you asking, why would he say that? He's giving you what you've asked for.
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Speaker 5: Right. Yes, yes. You're giving me what I asked for, but then you're also, you're chastising the player based on his style of play. When his style of play is one of the reasons why he was an MVP. His style of play and going downhill and being aggressive with the ball in his hands, not really wanting to pass it, is a reason why the Bucs were able to win a national, I was going to say national championship, win an NBA championship.
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Speaker 3: But you said you want players and coaches to be honest.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the honesty, but the honesty ended up in getting the ring.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so what is your qualms with Doc?
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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't even understand why you come out and say something like that about one of the better players in the NBA.
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Speaker 3: He being honest, which you wanted.
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Speaker 4: So you don't want players and coaches to be honest now? It's called constructive criticism, Ocho.
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Speaker 5: Listen, hey, Joe, I understand the constructive criticism, but you're giving constructive criticism. What is the context and why that was even asked, for one, right, in a sense? And how is it a bad thing, number two? You're talking about one of the better players.
Well, it sounds bad to me, or maybe I'm tripping.
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Speaker 4: He's saying Giannis is a great player. He's just saying his IQ level, basically, he's saying his IQ level isn't that high, but he's so dominant.
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Speaker 6: That's not an insult on him?
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Speaker 3: No, because everybody don't have the same level of IQ.
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Speaker 1: We've seen guys get penalties, Ocho, when a guy, okay, you're getting off the field, and then you take a.
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Speaker 3: Swipe at a guy. Is that a high IQ?
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Speaker 1: When you've gotten off the field, you've hurt him on third down, and then you get an unsportsmanlike conduct.
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Speaker 3: Is that high IQ?
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Speaker 7: No.
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Speaker 3: No, that's definitely not.
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Speaker 1: So he's saying he's a great player. But sometimes we need him to not play with such force going downhill and to try to make players around him better.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And we've heard other players saying it's difficult. Unless you're like, it's not easy playing with a great player. People say it's hard playing with LeBron.
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Speaker 3: It is. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: It is.
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Speaker 5: Early in his career. It's not hard now.
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Speaker 3: Well, not now because he's not the player that he once was.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's easy now because guess what? He's the fourth option. But when he was the first option, I can just imagine. Doc also said, and this is what he wanted, and I said, this is what I said. People talk about Shannon, you don't know what you're talking about. But anyway, Doc added that Giannis wanted out of Milwaukee but didn't want to look bad. didn't want to look like the bad guy to protect his legacy. Giannis wanted out, but he was a buck, and he didn't want to be the bad guy. He wanted John and Wes and those guys to say, we're trading you instead of him asking for a trade. To me, that was the game that was being played.
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Speaker 5: I said that on the show. Remember?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've said it. Because he kept talking about my agent. Whatever my agent said. I said, Giannis is seeing the blowback that some of these other great players have requested trades that they got. And he always wants to come off as the good guy. And I'm not saying that he's a bad guy. But if he were to ask publicly for a trade, it's going to sway some people's perception of him.
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Speaker 3: And he didn't want that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to sway their perception just like it did LeBron, just like it did KD when they were burning their jersey.
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Speaker 3: It comes with the territory, bro.
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Speaker 4: When you're a great player, this is what comes with it. You have to make those tough damn decisions. And look, we all knew he wanted out of Milwaukee, bro. You could tell the games that he was playing there. They didn't know if he was going to play here.
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Speaker 3: Oh, man, come on.
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Speaker 4: We seen the writing on the wall. Hell, they ain't surprised nobody. Think about it.
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Speaker 1: And the thing was, he got hurt and then he wanted to come back. I'm healthy because he wanted to play. They say, no, your brother's never playing another down.
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Speaker 3: Your brother's never playing the NBA again.
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Speaker 1: They say, either sign this extension.
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Speaker 3: Or you gone.
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Speaker 1: Because we can't let you walk away from nothing. I mean, they got ready.
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Speaker 4: And as a player, as a player, to tell them that you don't want to be there without really telling them, just don't sign the damn extension.
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Speaker 3: They'll get it.
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Speaker 1: At some point, they'll get it. But his agent said that. His agent said they weren't signing. And they couldn't let him leave for nothing.
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Speaker 3: And I get it. I'm not mad at either party.
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Speaker 1: But Giannis, if you want to be traded, just say, look, I've done all I can do here. Ocho, Joe, it's not like they didn't try. They traded Dame. Think about all the assets they gave up to get Dame.
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Speaker 3: They tried. Yeah, yeah. But in order to get Dame, what did you have to do? You had to give up Holiday. Yeah. Hey, think about it.
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Speaker 4: Man, if you interview Dame and Lillard, I don't think he would ever throw Giannis under the bus, but I think he did have a difficult time playing with Giannis.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 4: I just think because Giannis, even though he's playing the power forward and center position, he is the damn ball handler on the court. He cannot play off ball, bro. Unless you put him at the dunker spot close to the basket. But outside of that, when it's nut cutting time and we need some action, he got to have.
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Speaker 6: The ball, bro.
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Speaker 3: He can't be without the rock. Right.
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Speaker 1: I think Jeff Teague said, I mean, I think Jeff Teague was there when he said it's hard to play. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: It is.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And I think, look.
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Speaker 1: That sometimes I think Doc can be honest to a fault. And I think sometimes, you know, coaches, you have to give coaches speak at some point.
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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes, Ocho. Sometimes, Joe.
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Speaker 1: See, and that's what I was telling Ocho. I said, Ocho, you can't be honest all the time. Sometimes you have to be trying to protect a player or an organization. You have to do that sometimes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And Doc was like, you know what? I ain't going back to coach. I ain't protecting nothing. As a matter of fact, he's really hard to coach.
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Speaker 3: He really is. But great players are hard to coach because they want answers.
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Speaker 2:
Yeah.
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Speaker 1: If you ask any football coach, ask, and they'll say, well, no, he's not, because he want answers. Why are we doing this? If they do this, what are we going to do?
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: Why can't we do this and execute and get it done like that? That's what really the quarterbacks, the Mannings, the Bradys, the Elways, all these elite quarterbacks, they want answers.
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Speaker 3: And they want you to give them to them on command.
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Speaker 1: Great players, they want to be coached, but they want to be knowing they're being coached.
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Speaker 3: The right way and you know what the hell you talking about.
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Speaker 1: Right. Because you can't bull job them now. And once you run afoul with a great player, it's over.
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Speaker 3: It's over. Damn, Doc.
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Speaker 4: He done, Doc done coaching O'Hare.
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Speaker 3: Doc done made a boatload of my Doc good. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I thought, look, two guys that need the ball in their hand, somebody going to have to concede something.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Dame has always had the ball in his hand for the most part. He had CJ, but for the most part, it was Dame's team.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 1: Giannis has always had the ball in his hand. Something has to give. Now, Magic and Kareem worked perfectly. Scotty, nobody ever thought Scotty could challenge Jordan. He couldn't do what Jordan did. But when you get two guys that kind of need the ball, it's kind of hard. It's kind of hard to make it work.
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Speaker 4: Unless one of those guys can play off the ball. Yeah, I mean, Dane can play off the ball, but he was such a good closer, Uncle Ocho. that to him it probably was hard to fathom, like, damn, hold on, three minutes left in the game, I ain't got the rock in my hands, I got the, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: Like, great players, man, that's how they think. Yes.
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Speaker 1: And when you're a great player, and you go to another team, got like, bro, you just got here, that's me.
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Speaker 4: It's just me.
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Speaker 5: It is.
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Speaker 1: It is. I mean, especially now when you start one guy, you go to a new team, and one guy in year 22.
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Speaker 3: 22, like Luka came to the Lakers. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You think LeBron would have took a backseat if LeBron is in year 10 and Luka comes to join this team? You think LeBron would take a backseat, Joe?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no. Absolutely not.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 3: No, son.
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Speaker 4: We're going to be one A and one B. We both going to be averaging 30. Hey, we both going to be averaging 30.
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Speaker 6: I guess ain't nobody else going to touch the ball but them two then, huh?
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Speaker 3: That's it. Yeah, that's it.
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Speaker 1: Hell, if you look at it, mostly it's Luka and AR right now.
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Speaker 4:
AR.
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Speaker 1: How many points? I told you, Joe. I said, Joe, he going to average somewhere between 34 and 38 points.
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Speaker 3: He said, man. I said, okay. You see it.
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Speaker 4: Man, you seen what that boy did last night, man.
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Speaker 3: I did. I watched every dribble.
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Speaker 6: Man, I would have, man, I would have.
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Speaker 4: Ocho, you just hollering the other day. The boy just put up 53 last night here. You sitting there talking.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he putting up 53.
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Speaker 3: That's four straight games of folding. He's averaging folding. Hey, can I say something?
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Speaker 1: He looking like old James. You remember James Harden was doing this exact same thing. James Harden was averaging over nine games, averaged 49.
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Speaker 6: When he was in Houston?
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Speaker 3: Yes. He averaged 43 for a month.
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Speaker 4: Okay, Ocho, it was a blessing in disguise for Brun not to go back to L.A. I think if Brun, I can't see Luka going on this type of run. I think without Brun, he knows, okay, this my ish. I got the leaders. You know what I mean? I can't be out here playing no games. I'm coming out here. Hey, I'm dropping the hammer first quarter every damn game. That boy on a mission, man.
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Speaker 2: Hey.
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Speaker 3: They held him down, Joe. In the first quarter, he only had 10.
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Speaker 1: And then he needed a 60-foot shot to get the 10 in the second quarter. Then he went haywire in the third. He dropped 20 on him.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he hit that three-quarter court shot right for the half.
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Speaker 3: And then the third quarter, that man came out on a mission.
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Speaker 1: The problem that they have, Joe, they don't have– I mean, Holiday is a big body, but Holiday ain't big enough.
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Speaker 4: You see how he can put- Holiday on his back? You hear what you just said, man?
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Speaker 3: I seen it. I seen it.
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Speaker 4: Hey, listen.
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to lie.
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Speaker 7: Ocho, the way he was handling Holiday out there last night, I'm like, damn.
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Speaker 3: Holiday a hell of a defender, man. Absolutely is.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got to tell Drew what he got to do with him next time, man.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Get off him.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Joe, let somebody else get this 20-piece.
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Speaker 6: Hey, Joe, you got to play bully ball with him, man. You got to be aggressive. You got to get your foul. You hear me? You got to get your hard foul first, man.
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Speaker 3: Piss him off a little bit. Let me tell you something. One dude got it going on.
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Speaker 4: Hey, when dude got it going on you like that, Ocho, you got to put your pride aside. Hey, let me get him, Ocho. Let me get him for a little while. He done scored 17 points on you here. He don't even pay to score 50.
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Speaker 3: Let me get him. I don't want none of that. Let Ocho go and.
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Speaker 4: Get all 70. We got to get this man a different look. The way he killing Ocho out here, we got to get this man a different look.
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Speaker 5: He going to get a different look from me. Hey, I'm picking him up at 94 feet, too. 94 feet. I'm going to beat him up. He might not make it out the first quarter.
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Speaker 1: He's going to be sitting next to Coach. They ask him, if you and A.R. play one-on-one to 15, who wins? He's like, make it, take it. She's like, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I said 15-0.
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Speaker 1: I'm just going to post him up. There ain't no way.
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Speaker 3: Whoever gets the ball first is going to be tough. Right, right, right.
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Speaker 4: Nah, I'm going to keep it real. Luka just, he got too much sauce in his game. Okay, Ochoa, I think at once he'll be pretty good. Obviously, he'll probably be somewhat of a defensive liability, but when he get the ball, he got too much in his game, bro. All them pump fakes and step-throughs and them wild shots he's shooting. Come on, man.
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Speaker 1: Look at him shooting. Ochoa, Joe, he got 15 threes up last night.
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Speaker 3: How many he made, huh?
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Speaker 1: Five.
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Speaker 3: Five?
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Speaker 1: But the problem is that a couple of them go in, and now you're going to close out of him.
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Speaker 3: Hey, guess what?
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Speaker 1: Put it on the floor, go right by you, and put you on his back like he was doing Holiday and get to his float game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because he ain't trying to get all the way to the rim, Ocho.
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Speaker 4: He's just trying to get to a spot on the court where he can shoot his little floater or that little mid-range.
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Speaker 7: Little touch shot he shoot. Yeah, he got that down too. Boy, he got that too of signs, huh?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And then when your bid comes, all you're going to do is dump it off. You're going to throw the lob to Kessler. Boom, dunk it.
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Speaker 4: Hey, but while we're talking, I know Kessler has some subpar games, but he been pretty good for them.
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Speaker 3: I ain't know how that was going to look. And Luka in the pick and roll with anybody, it's over for your ass.
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Speaker 4: Because he know how to manipulate the pick and roll to get whatever the hell he want.
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Speaker 3: Period, point blank. Ain't no way to cut or slice it, bro. Ocho lead his man a lot. You didn't see what Ocho did to Joe. What? He didn't. I ain't know.
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Speaker 6: You got to show me, boy. Joe, why you laughing, Joe?
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Speaker 5: I'm giving him time now. I don't want to play till June. You got to show me.
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Speaker 3: Hey, listen.
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Speaker 4: I want to go and put down my main demonstration before June. Before you get to Luca, you got to come see me first.
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Speaker 6: Come see who?
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Speaker 3: Me.
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Speaker 5: Hey, Joe.
Hey, when it come to me playing you, boy, I'm like Ray Charles, boy.
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Speaker 6: I don't even see you, boy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 6: Joe, you can't do no on me, Joe.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 6: Joe, listen to me. You too little.
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Speaker 5: And you coming off an injury, too. Your knee messed up, right?
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Speaker 4: Man, that's over and done with. That's over and done with. You don't even need to talk about that no more, partner.
00:23:54
Speaker 3: No more.
00:23:54
Speaker 5: Because that's going to be a unk. When I make a move on you, right, the first thing you're going to say, oh, my knee. I just had surgery. I ain't trying to hear that shit. I ain't trying to hear that joke.
00:24:06
Speaker 3: I mean, Joe, you had surgery about 16 months ago, ain't it?
00:24:09
Speaker 4: I thought that man was talking about something. I don't care. He ain't talking about it. That man just making excuses, copping police. Ain't nobody trying to hit that boy. I got something for you.
00:24:18
Speaker 5: Joe, honestly, all jokes aside, Joe, real talk, you my boy. They call you Iso Joe. Boy, I done seen your clips. I done seen what you did. You had a hell of an NBA career.
00:24:27
Speaker 6: You hear me?
00:24:28
Speaker 5: Seven-time NBA All-Star and all that good shit, right? But Joe, you can't do with me on the court, Joe. I'm just telling you. Joe, you ain't got the heart I got, Joe.
00:24:38
Speaker 1: Huh?
00:24:39
Speaker 6: I told you, Joe, boy, I'd bite your kneecaps right there, Joe, to get that ball in the hoop, boy.
00:24:44
Speaker 3: Nah, real shit. Ocho, Ocho. Real shit. I fell in love with this game of basketball, man.
00:24:50
Speaker 5: Joe, I fell in love with the ball, too, Joe.
00:24:54
Speaker 4: Nah, at a very young age, Ocho. It's a little different over here. So if you think you're going to get on this flow, man, on that basketball court, and you think you're going to be able to even touch me, even hang with me, something wrong with you, boy.
00:25:08
Speaker 5: Hey, Joe, see, that's the problem, right? See, a lot of people in the chat, a lot of people in the chat, they be like, oh, you can't be. See, that's why they was never successful when it came to playing competitive sports. It's just being competitive in life in general. Like, it don't matter who it is, you supposed to go at their ass.
00:25:22
Speaker 4: You hear me?
00:25:23
Speaker 5: Whether they better than you, whether they bigger than you. See, you got to have that. They ain't got the right mentality, Joe.
00:25:29
Speaker 6: You hear me?
00:25:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:25:30
Speaker 4: You know what?
00:25:30
Speaker 3: Guess what? Guess what?
00:25:32
Speaker 5: Wait, no, Joe, let me finish. When I'm talking, you listen. Joe, sometimes it take a mentality to... You know? And before you know it, you end up winning. So most of the times in my life, Joe, I'm talking about my life. Let me tell you my life story, Joe.
00:25:44
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:25:45
Speaker 5: I might not have been the best.
00:25:47
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:25:47
Speaker 5: Huh? I might not have been the fastest. I might not have been the quickest.
00:25:50
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:25:51
Speaker 5: But every time it was time to be competitive, I won everything, Joe.
00:25:56
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:25:57
Speaker 6: You know why?
00:25:58
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:25:59
Speaker 5: Because I ain't seen nobody, Joe, no matter what they did, how accomplished they were. So I respect you and what you've done in the NBA. But Joe, I don't see that shit, Joe. Because when it's time to compete, I'm a different animal, Joe.
00:26:12
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, man.
00:26:14
Speaker 4: You know, when it comes to having that dog in you and all that you be talking about.
00:26:17
Speaker 3: Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. You a dog, Joe. You a chihuahua. Listen, listen, listen. Joe, you a chihuahua. You a pug. You a chihuahua. You a pug.
00:26:26
Speaker 5: Joe, you a Yorkie. You a Yorkie. Joe being a dog.
00:26:30
Speaker 3: The dog getting smaller and smaller, Joe.
00:26:32
Speaker 4: I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying I'm a dog. What I'm saying is, these dudes who Ocho talking about, he talking about he a dog. These dogs get these buckets too, just like the rest of y'all, partner. That's what I'm trying to tell you. You better go ask about me, man.
00:26:48
Speaker 3: Huh?
00:26:49
Speaker 5: Joe, Joe, I'm not asking nothing. Just like I told Luca, you got to show me.
00:26:53
Speaker 3: Show me. Show me. I know what you.
00:26:56
Speaker 5: Did in the NBA. I'm talking about with me in your face. Me talking to you. Me in your ear. Me blowing you in your back. Me hitting you in your nose, nigga.
00:27:04
Speaker 6: Oh, my bad.
00:27:05
Speaker 4: They don't do nothing to me.
00:27:07
Speaker 3: It's different. It's different.
00:27:10
Speaker 5: We ain't playing NBA ball. We in the street, Joe.
00:27:13
Speaker 6: Okay, okay.
00:27:15
Speaker 4: Joe, you're not built for that. I grew up playing like that, so it's nothing.
00:27:18
Speaker 3: It's nothing.
00:27:19
Speaker 5: Joe, you're not built for that, man.
00:27:20
Speaker 6: Joe, I'm going to yoke your ass out.
00:27:22
Speaker 3: What?
00:27:27
Speaker 5: I'm on, hey, Joe, I'm on that. Boy, Joe, I'm coming from a different type of claw, Joe. As a matter of fact, the day when we play, I ain't even going to take my medicine. So you know you won't get nothing but crazy.
00:27:35
Speaker 4: Hell, I ain't going to take mine neither. So it's going to be double crazy here. So now, how you want to do it?
00:27:40
Speaker 3: All right. Yeah.
00:27:41
Speaker 5: Hey, only one of us leaving in a straitjacket.
00:27:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. Well, hey, I like my chances, partner.
00:27:47
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what they all say, Joe.
00:27:50
Speaker 3: Okay. All right.
00:27:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, Joe, they used to say they like their
chances with me on Sunday.
00:27:54
Speaker 6: And what happened?
00:27:55
Speaker 3: Well, listen, you talking about something totally different.
00:27:58
Speaker 4: You really in a league that you ain't even supposed to even be in. But you going to keep talking?
00:28:03
Speaker 6: Joe, Joe, I am the league, nigga.
00:28:05
Speaker 3: What you talking about? Okay.
00:28:07
Speaker 4: All right.
00:28:08
Speaker 5: Okay, Lee.
00:28:08
Speaker 3: You're going to have to just go ahead. I already know. I already know. But you're going to have to.
00:28:15
Speaker 5: All right.
00:28:16
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.
00:28:17
Speaker 4: I do want to do it. I do want to do this. I want to kick on his ass. That's what I'm going to do. Yeah, I got it. I got something for him, Chad. I promise y'all, boy.
00:28:24
Speaker 6: Hey, make sure you eat that day too, boy.
00:28:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
00:28:27
Speaker 5: Make sure you eat because I'm going to make you throw up everything you ate. All right.
00:28:31
Speaker 3: All right.
00:28:33
Speaker 6: You got you.
00:28:33
Speaker 1: Warriors beat the Magic 126-119 in overtime. Steph had 41, but 19 came in the fourth quarter in overtime.
00:28:39
Speaker 5: 41?
00:28:40
Speaker 3: Seven straight wins for the Warriors.
00:28:42
Speaker 1: Steph recorded his 16th game with at least 40 points since turning 35, surpassing LeBron James for the most 40-point performances among players older than 35. He be cooking, Joe. You know the crazy part, Uncle Ocho? Huh?
00:29:01
Speaker 3: What's that? He got to play like this.
00:29:05
Speaker 4: In order for the Warriors to even have a damn chance, Steph got him.
00:29:10
Speaker 3: Look, Lindenburg, he giving him everything he got. He balling.
00:29:13
Speaker 4: As a rookie, you can't ask for much more than that. 23 points, eight rebounds, three assists, nine for 15 from the floor, two for four from the three. You can't ask for much better than that as a rookie. It's the other guys around him.
00:29:29
Speaker 5: Pies.
00:29:30
Speaker 3: What's his name? How you say it? Pomiskey.
00:29:33
Speaker 4: Pazemski, he just got his money before the season. Okay, Ocho, he been solid. I like him, I like Paz, he can go. Draymond, obviously, 13 assists. Hell, I think this is the second game in a row with double-digit assists, if I ain't mistaken. So when he's playing like that, he's helping. He's helping with the offense, but they got to have other guys come along. I mean, for Steph, 36 minutes, 41 points, six rebounds, six assists.
00:29:56
Speaker 2: Woo!
00:29:59
Speaker 3: That's just filthy at this age, bro. I mean, he's still doing it at a high level, fellas. What we talking about?
00:30:05
Speaker 1: The question is, when Jimmy comes back, does Lindenburg took a back seat or does he keep.
00:30:11
Speaker 4: His foot on the gas? He gonna keep his foot on the gas. Whoever this Santos dude is, he got to go to the bench, okay? But I don't think, for Lindenburg, you don't want to pull the Rangers back on him, Uncle Ocho. You want to let him go. Man, just let him hoop, let him play. Because he's doing a lot That's equating to winning. He ain't just scoring. I mean, he assists, he rebound, he play great defense. And he's a competitor, bro.
00:30:37
Speaker 3: He a competitor. What we talking about? So I think if.
00:30:40
Speaker 4: You go in the state, you got a good problem. Hopefully Jimmy can get back sooner than later. But the West, the West, I mean, outside of San Antonio at the top.
00:30:51
Speaker 1: Hey, what's it called playing? Hey, the Thunder still playing good, Joe. Shea doing what Shea does. A.J.
00:30:59
Speaker 3: Mitchell. A.J.
00:31:00
Speaker 4: Mitchell. Money making Mitch. He out there getting it, ain't he, man?
00:31:04
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:31:06
Speaker 4: It's just hard when you have to rely on a lot of those guys throughout the rest of the season. I'm going to pencil Shea in for about 30, 35 almost every night. But them other guys, man, are you going to be able to pencil them in for 25, 27? You know what I mean? Like Mitch, he balling. But I don't know if consistently he's going to be able to get 35 out of it.
00:31:28
Speaker 3: I know. But, boy, he look good. What was that, tonight? Two nights ago.
00:31:35
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:31:35
Speaker 3: All right. Now it's time to play a fade presented by Prize Picks.
00:31:41
Speaker 2: We got about eight more hours. What you laughing at, Joe?
00:31:43
Speaker 1: Eight more hours for what?
00:31:53
Speaker 5: Oh, but for the Bengals, put BTA to the Falcons.
00:31:56
Speaker 6: That's all.
00:31:57
Speaker 5: You know they play at 930 in the morning.
00:31:59
Speaker 3: Damn.
00:32:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, they in Spain.
00:32:01
Speaker 6: All right, B.
00:32:04
Speaker 3: John Robinson. Point five touchdowns tomorrow. Anytime. Hold on, Ocho. You got to keep it one. Come on now. Come on now. Come on now.
00:32:14
Speaker 5: I'm going to let y'all answer. I ain't answering that.
00:32:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got him down for one. Okay. One touchdown for B. John.
00:32:22
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, 1.5 touchdown passes. More or less than 1.5.
00:32:27
Speaker 4: More.
00:32:28
Speaker 5: He going to have three, matter of fact. Matter of fact, make it four.
00:32:31
Speaker 3: There you go.
00:32:32
Speaker 5: He going to get that, but make it four. He going to probably up by three or four. Matter of fact, hey, Uncle Joe, this might be the game where Chase had that monster game. Because back-to-back week, T. Higgins been going crazy. So I'm telling you what Joe thinking.
00:32:48
Speaker 3: Okay, boom.
00:32:49
Speaker 5: Chase ain't even at 500 yards this season. I got to get him going. Watch how they have Chase all over the place, coming out the backfield, going in motion, in the slot.
00:33:03
Speaker 6: I ain't telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know.
00:33:05
Speaker 3: All right.
00:33:07
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker III,. 5 touchdown, any
time, receiving or rushing.
00:33:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, they playing the Jets. And I'm not saying the Jets haven't been playing bad this year, but they're playing the Jets. And you know what the Chiefs are going to do to the Jets. They're going to establish everything with the run.
00:33:24
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, 1.5 touchdown passes. More or less than 1.5 touchdown passes.
00:33:31
Speaker 3: More.
00:33:31
Speaker 1: More.
00:33:32
Speaker 5: More.
00:33:35
Speaker 4: More, man.
00:33:36
Speaker 3: We're playing against the Colts.
00:33:37
Speaker 5: More. Yeah.
00:33:39
Speaker 2: Hey, Joe.
00:33:39
Speaker 5: Hey, I got a question before you go to the next one. Man, what if the Cowboys lose to the Colts, man?
00:33:44
Speaker 4: See what I'm saying? See, why you got to do all that? Ain't nobody saying nothing about your bingles. I let your bingles.
00:33:48
Speaker 5: Nah, nah, nah, nah.
00:33:50
Speaker 6: I'm asking a question.
00:33:51
Speaker 5: It's a fair question. I'm just asking.
00:33:53
Speaker 4: Damn, fair question? Hell, I'm talking about it's a fair question.
00:33:57
Speaker 5: Oh, so you guaranteeing a win?
00:33:59
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:34:00
Speaker 3: Yes, I am. Yes.
00:34:01
Speaker 6: Okay. Okay, bet. Okay, bet.
00:34:03
Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.
00:34:05
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:34:07
Speaker 5: Boy.
00:34:07
Speaker 3: Really thug.
00:34:20
Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs,. 5 touchdowns, more or less than. 5 touchdowns.
00:34:26
Speaker 4: More?
00:34:26
Speaker 3: They playing against the Guppies?
00:34:28
Speaker 5: Hell, more. Hey, don't do that, Joe.
00:34:30
Speaker 3: Don't do that. My bad. I thought you were going to the bathroom. I didn't know you were standing right there.
00:34:36
Speaker 6: I went to get my basketball to show you the move I'm going to put on you.
00:34:42
Speaker 3: What you got, bro?
00:34:43
Speaker 4: That little weak-ass jab ain't going to get it. I'll tell you that right now.
00:34:46
Speaker 5: Hey.
00:34:47
Speaker 4: You're going to be A.A.
00:34:50
Speaker 5: Hey, Joe, I'm going to jab. I'm going to jab my right foot at the knee you had surgery on. I'm going to jab at that knee because I know you ain't going to be able to move.
00:34:58
Speaker 4: You ain't going to be able to get outside because I'm going to send you left because I know you can't dribble with that left hand.
00:35:04
Speaker 3: I'm left-handed, Joe.
00:35:05
Speaker 7: I'm left-handed.
00:35:07
Speaker 3: I'm ambidextrous.
00:35:08
Speaker 5: I write with this one, I write with my left hand, and I punch with my right.
00:35:14
Speaker 6: So whichever one you want, you.
00:35:15
Speaker 3: Can get it.
00:35:19
Speaker 1: Christopher Caffrey,. 5 touchdown, anytime, run or pass, a runner or receiver.
00:35:25
Speaker 6: Who they playing?
00:35:27
Speaker 1: Vegas.
00:35:28
Speaker 3: Las Vegas and San Francisco.
00:35:31
Speaker 6: He get the ball in so many ways. He going to have one of them.
00:35:36
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00:35:38
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00:35:54
Speaker 3: Q & A. If Ocho was a dog, he would be a chihuahua. All they do is bark, bark, bark, bark, bark. Yep.
00:36:11
Speaker 5: Hey, whoever said that, hey, whoever said that must ain't seen me play.
00:36:15
Speaker 3: Huh?
00:36:16
Speaker 4: You can tell people that ain't never seen me play. That's why they say all you do is bark.
00:36:20
Speaker 5: And you didn't hear what I said. And when I bark, when I did bark, when I was playing, what I did? When I did, I bit everything. I bit everything.
00:36:31
Speaker 1: The question is for Iso. I know you, Luke, is a crazy score player. But would you like to play with him while you were in your prime? Or does he demand the ball too much on every possession to make it fun to play with?
00:36:45
Speaker 4: Nah, I could have played with him. It ain't many guys I don't think I could have played with Uncle Ocho because I felt like my game complimented, you know, pretty much anybody. You know, because I could catch and shoot. I could post up. You could play through me. I could play make. I like a guy with a high– You're not going to play through him though, Joe.
00:37:02
Speaker 2: Huh?
00:37:03
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, they're not going to play through you. You play with him. Yeah, but we gon' take turns. Hell, he can't take turns. He gon' have to sit down for a minute. Oh, damn. You gon' stack our odd minutes. You gon' stack our odd minutes.
00:37:15
Speaker 3: Hell, yeah.
00:37:16
Speaker 4: Start me back at the second. Play through me. Yeah, then we come back in. He ain't have his show, but I'm out there getting money, too, now.
00:37:24
Speaker 6: You see A.R.
00:37:25
Speaker 3: Out there? You see A.R.? Do you see.
00:37:27
Speaker 1: A.R.? In the fourth quarter, Joe, ain't no staggering. Oh, do you see A.R.? That last eight minutes.
00:37:34
Speaker 7: And then when they doubling his ass and he got to swing it, man, please.
00:37:42
Speaker 3: AR doesn't get money, boy.
00:37:45
Speaker 1: In boot camp, we would be standing outside in the formation getting bit up by sand fleas and couldn't even do anything about it. The second you try to swap one, the drill instructor yell, let them eat. He talk about the sand, the sand, that's it.
00:37:58
Speaker 3: And Paris Island or Honey Army Airfield. Yeah, they were bad in Savannah, boy.
00:38:05
Speaker 1: Julia's saying being out is no excuse for Ryan Day concerning the fact Ohio State won the championship with the third string quarterback. Day is an offensive coach. The offense has no business looking at that inept after the first quarter. Ryan Day has to go.
00:38:20
Speaker 5: That's ridiculous. I mean, we all know for offense, regardless of who the coach is, in order to have any type of success, you
need a quarterback, whether he's second or third string. And when they did have that third string quarterback, We do remember that Ohio State team that year, right?
00:38:36
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:38:37
Speaker 5: Please, come on. Come on now.
00:38:38
Speaker 1: And look at all those. Alvarez ain't there. Sonny Styles isn't there. All those guys, they're not there now.
00:38:43
Speaker 3: Yeah. Come on now.
00:38:45
Speaker 5: Come on now.
00:38:49
Speaker 1: Ocho, I know I was dogging you over the night about the Wolves in Miami, but I was just watching your highlight when you popped on.
00:38:56
Speaker 3: And you were bad before. Always open, 85.
00:38:58
Speaker 1: 85.
00:38:59
Speaker 5: Boy, you ain't never lie, boy.
00:39:00
Speaker 6: One thing about it, I might do a lot of talking.
00:39:02
Speaker 5: I might come on here on the show and, you know, be yapping and talk about, you know, playing Joe and playing ISO. But one thing, boy, one thing about it, boy, two things for sure. When it's time to compete, boy, I'm coming to the table.
00:39:13
Speaker 3: You hear me?
00:39:14
Speaker 5: Huh?
00:39:15
Speaker 6: That's why Joe don't stand no chance.
00:39:18
Speaker 3: I don't care.
00:39:19
Speaker 6: I don't care what the sport is.
00:39:22
Speaker 1: ISO, you said before you were close to joining LeBron as a teammate. Who are some of the other almost teammates in your career that would surprise us?
00:39:32
Speaker 6: Ocho.
00:39:33
Speaker 3: Who? Me. Nah, that's probably... We teammates on here. Alright.
00:39:43
Speaker 4: That's probably the most surprising one, Ocho, because they won a championship that year. That's the year they came back against the Warriors when they were the best team in the league that year.
00:39:53
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:39:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah, I went to Miami and played with D-Wade, Mars, Stoudemire, UD, Whiteside. We had a nice squad, bro. Whiteside got hurt. First round of the damn playoffs, man, that hurt us, bro. We had a nice little squad, though.
00:40:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was hungry then, so he was blocking everything, scoring.
00:40:15
Speaker 4: That man was getting triple-double with blocks, huh?
00:40:18
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:40:20
Speaker 5: A matter of fact, hey, Joe, when was the last time you talked to D-Wade?
00:40:25
Speaker 3: It's been a little minute.
00:40:26
Speaker 5: It's been a little minute. I know you got his information, right? Ask D-Wade, right? In 2011, 2012, I think that might have been. Ask him what happened when we played one-on-one, bro.
00:40:39
Speaker 3: You beat him?
00:40:42
Speaker 5: Ask D-Wade what happened to him when we played in 2011, 2012, bro.
00:40:46
Speaker 4: I'm saying, what y'all were going to? It was the first one to score a win, or you saying y'all went to five?
00:40:50
Speaker 5: We went to 15, boy.
00:40:52
Speaker 3: And you beat him?
00:40:54
Speaker 5: Man, Joe, I don't play no game, Joe. And listen, I'm speaking facts. I'm speaking facts.
00:41:02
Speaker 3: I'm going to hit him, man.
00:41:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, he trying to go put the shoulder into my body, man, and pull up. Man, I'm playing through the contact.
00:41:11
Speaker 6: He going nowhere.
00:41:12
Speaker 3: What? Right there.
00:41:15
Speaker 5: In the chest, ask him about it. Ask Melo, ask Melo what happened.
00:41:19
Speaker 7: Hold on, D-Wade one of the best two guys that played the game. You mean tell me.
00:41:23
Speaker 5: Joe, it ain't about being the best. In a structured environment, yes. One-on-one is a different ball game. Ask him what happened to him. Now, Melo beat me by three. Melo beat me by three. In New York, we were playing at the Summit. Yeah, we was at the Summit.
00:41:40
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:41:41
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
00:41:42
Speaker 5: Hey, Joe, I really do this, Joe.
00:41:45
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:41:46
Speaker 6: Yeah, ask D-Wade about me, what?
00:41:47
Speaker 3: All right, man. Man, this game here just went final. Texas Tech beat West Virginia 53-48. God, dog.
00:41:56
Speaker 2: Damn.
00:41:56
Speaker 3: Where the defense at? 582 for West Virginia.
00:41:59
Speaker 4: Where the defense? Nowhere.
00:41:59
Speaker 6: Both teams ran the ball.
00:42:00
Speaker 3: For over 270 yards.
00:42:01
Speaker 1: Jeez.
00:42:15
Speaker 4: Bam.
00:42:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, ain't nobody play no defense in that one. NIL and Portal has changed college football. Fewer teams are unbeaten this late in the season. Lowest since 1977. With 2014 playoffs coming, should the top 25 and scheduling system change?
00:42:30
Speaker 3: It has to.
00:42:32
Speaker 1: Because basically, you're taking 2014, you're taking the top 25.
00:42:36
Speaker 3: Basically. What sense does that make? Nothing at all.
00:42:41
Speaker 5: But it makes sense to them because it's more.
00:42:43
Speaker 3: Never mind.
00:42:46
Speaker 1: Y'all Miami fans need to put down the Laporte 8. That was an incomplete pass. Quit feeling like refs did y'all colder than a polar bear's ass. This question's got nothing to do with anything, but if you put a grizzly bear, a lion, and a silverback in a cage, who wins? Also, if you were in there, Unks takes the gorilla, Ocho got the lion. Dang, Iso, I guess the grizzly bear.
00:43:13
Speaker 3: Let's see. Who I got?
00:43:16
Speaker 7: Ain't neither one of us got no chance.
00:43:19
Speaker 3: No chance, zero.
00:43:21
Speaker 6: Hold on, what you mean neither one of who?
00:43:23
Speaker 1: Boy, you ain't got no chance. Boy, the lion take down a, what you call him? A Cape Buffalo.
00:43:31
Speaker 3: A Elon.
00:43:32
Speaker 6: Hold on, what's the animals in there again?
00:43:35
Speaker 3: A silverback gorilla, a lion, and a grizzly bear. Hey, hey, hey.
00:43:42
Speaker 4: We all going to die, but who going to die first? Hey, that silverback gonna whoop our ass, boy.
00:43:47
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I show him. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, hey, oh, Joe. Honestly, I done got it figured out. As long as you don't look at
me, I'm just gonna sit down.
00:43:53
Speaker 3: There like this here. Yeah, and he gonna slap you in the back.
00:43:57
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, with that grizzly skirt on, and that joke a 10-foot tall on you, Joe.
00:44:06
Speaker 6: Hey, what?
00:44:09
Speaker 2: Hey.
00:44:11
Speaker 3: I got to have a weapon. He slapped Joe one time, Mocho. It's over. Hey, listen.
00:44:17
Speaker 6: I'm sitting here talking trash, man. Shoot, I got slapped. I got slapped.
00:44:21
Speaker 5: Got my glasses knocked on my face.
00:44:24
Speaker 8: Hey, so you know with any of them, man.
00:44:29
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that.
00:44:32
Speaker 7: Hey, Chad.
00:44:33
Speaker 3: Boy, I can't wait to y'all watch the next episode of Nike Help Us.
00:44:37
Speaker 6: Hey, boy.
00:44:40
Speaker 1: All right, so what year in ATL you felt like it was a championship year?
00:44:51
Speaker 4: A championship year? I'm going to be honest with you. I ain't never thought we could win a title. I just thought, you know, we'll get teams here.
00:44:59
Speaker 3: Like, we played against that Bulls team when.
00:45:00
Speaker 4: D-Rose won MVP, and we went in there and won game one.
00:45:04
Speaker 3: After they gave him his MVP award. Yeah.
00:45:08
Speaker 4: I think we won two games that series. That was second round. But outside of that, man, we played against some tough fans. I mean, we played against the Celtics who won it, hell, with KG Paul Pierce and Ray Allen and Rondo now. Outside of that, man, we played against some tough teams, bro. Now, I'm going to be honest with you. I ain't never think that we was going to win a title. I just felt we was good teams. Hell, we give them good run for their money. UCLA and Utah in the top 10. USC, Oregon, and Arizona are in the top 25. The media killed the Pac-12 for the same thing y'all now praising the SEC for, parody. Not so easy playing nine-game schedule, is it.
00:45:50
Speaker 3: SEC fans? Nope.
00:46:03
Speaker 1: What's up, Big 3? My birthday was yesterday. Just turned 24 and thought it'd be dope if y'all could wish me a shout-out. Would mean a lot. My name is Brandon. Been watching since day one. Love the show.
00:46:13
Speaker 3: Brandon.
00:46:14
Speaker 5: Happy 24th, bro.
00:46:16
Speaker 3: Man, what you do, man? You did a little something? Did something for two-something? Oh, yeah. You already knew it. Yeah, I mean, yeah. What I give to be 24 one more time.
00:46:29
Speaker 6: I don't even remember.
00:46:30
Speaker 3: If only for one night.
00:46:34
Speaker 2: And?
00:46:35
Speaker 3: Got somebody in mind I want to put a mean demonstration down on. Damn! Hey, hey, hey.
00:46:43
Speaker 6: Uncle Joe. Well, you know, my 30-year high school reunion was tonight.
00:46:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, how was it?
00:46:49
Speaker 5: That thing was good, boy.
00:46:50
Speaker 3: Oh, you went?
00:46:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, I went, Joe. Hey, my flight landed. You know, I was in Chattanooga, Tennessee with T.O. at his homecoming, right? So I left at halftime to make sure I can get back so I can see. I ain't seen any folks in 1996. Man, boy, that was a good time, man. Seeing some of them old faces, some people that was in class with me. Man, that was dope, man. That was really dope.
00:47:12
Speaker 4: Did you see Shorty? Did you see Shorty who went with the Zoe?
00:47:17
Speaker 3: Oh, man, look.
00:47:18
Speaker 5: Hey, remember, hey, Joe, you got to think. During that time, I was a freshman, and I was dating a senior.
00:47:26
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, so I.
00:47:29
Speaker 5: Would date way above my pay grade.
00:47:31
Speaker 6: You feel me?
00:47:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. She was a little too fast for you. Yeah, yeah.
00:47:35
Speaker 6: She was grown.
00:47:36
Speaker 3: She was grown. Yeah, yeah.
00:47:40
Speaker 6: It's all good. It's all good.
00:47:41
Speaker 5: I enjoyed that. So all my 1996 Miami Beach alumni, I appreciate seeing all y'all. Y'all might be watching the show tonight. I salute you. If you are watching, please subscribe and like. And it was a pleasure seeing y'all after 30 years.
00:47:57
Speaker 6: And I love you.
00:47:58
Speaker 3: How many people did you graduate in class, Ocho?
00:48:02
Speaker 6: Hey, that's a good question, boy. I'm not sure. Is there a way I could look that up?
00:48:08
Speaker 5: Miami Beach Senior High Class of 96.
00:48:10
Speaker 6: I have no idea.
00:48:12
Speaker 3: You ain't get no yearbook?
00:48:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, I ain't got.
00:48:14
Speaker 6: Boy, I don't know where that yearbook at, boy. I saw some. Hey, I was ugly as hell in that yearbook, Ocho. Boy, you laughing.
00:48:21
Speaker 5: Hey, remember how biggie smalls I was?
00:48:24
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:48:26
Speaker 6: Remember how I told you I couldn't see?
00:48:27
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:48:28
Speaker 5: My eye was permanently like that, though. How big he was? Yeah. You see that yearbook picture of me as a freshman? Boy, you'd be like, man, what in the hell? Joe, you laughing, Joe? No, my eye was crooked the whole time through high school.
00:48:46
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:48:48
Speaker 5: I don't know at what point it kind of straightened up, but I wear my glasses all the time because No, I could look at you right now, right? And it looked like it ain't nothing wrong. But if I keep talking and, like, I daze off or something, man, that thing will cock to the right way. Y'all ain't going to make fun of me, boy.
00:49:08
Speaker 1: The worst part about the Norfolk State game, even after Central scored, after that fumble, Norfolk State had a chance to win with a 35-yard field goal and missed it.
00:49:16
Speaker 3: They should have had a particular field goal.
00:49:18
Speaker 1: If the guy did what he was asked, which was, Biggs said, Mike said he instructed victory formation.
00:49:24
Speaker 3: Victory formation, you take three knees. Yeah. It shouldn't have become, Mason, your career that would surprise us. Ocho. I almost.
00:49:35
Speaker 5: Who?
00:49:36
Speaker 3: Me. Nah. That's probably... We teammates on here.
00:49:40
Speaker 7: All right.
00:49:45
Speaker 4: That's probably the most surprising one, Uncle Ocho, because they won a championship that year. That's the year they came back against the Warriors when they were the best team in the league that year.
00:49:55
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:49:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I went to Miami and played with D-Wade, Marlon Stoudemire, UD. Whiteside, we had a nice squad, bro. Whiteside got hurt. First round of the damn playoffs, man, that hurt us, bro. We had a nice little squad, though.
00:50:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was hungry then, so he was blocking everything, scoring.
00:50:16
Speaker 7: That man was getting triple-double with blocks, huh?
00:50:20
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:50:22
Speaker 5: Hey, matter of fact, hey, Joe, when was the last time you.
00:50:25
Speaker 6: Talked to D-Wade?
00:50:27
Speaker 3: It's been a little minute.
00:50:28
Speaker 6: It's been a little minute. I know you got his information, right?
00:50:32
Speaker 5: As D Wade, right, in 2011, 2012, I think that might have been. Ask him what happened when we played one-on-one, bro.
00:50:41
Speaker 3: You beat him?
00:50:44
Speaker 5: Ask D Wade what happened to him when we played in 2011, 2012, bro.
00:50:46
Speaker 3: I'm saying, what y'all were going to? It was the first one to score a win, or you saying y'all.
00:50:51
Speaker 6: Went to five?
00:50:52
Speaker 5: We went to 15, bro.
00:50:54
Speaker 3: And you beat him?
00:50:56
Speaker 5: Man, Joe, I don't play no game, Joe. And listen, I'm speaking facts. I'm speaking facts.
00:51:03
Speaker 3: I'ma hit him, man.
00:51:05
Speaker 5: Yeah, he trying to go, you know, put the shoulder into my body, man, and pull up. Man, I'm playing through the contact.
00:51:12
Speaker 6: Uh-uh, ain't going nowhere.
00:51:14
Speaker 3: What?
00:51:16
Speaker 5: Right there, in the chest, asking about it. Ask Mello, ask Mello what happened.
00:51:21
Speaker 7: Hold on, D-Wade one of the best two guys that'll play the game. You mean tell me... Joe, it ain't about being the best. In a structured environment, yes. One-on-one is a different ball game. Ask him what happened to him. Now, Melo beat me by three. Melo beat me by three in New York. We were playing at the Summit. Yeah, we was at the Summit.
00:51:42
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:51:43
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Joe, I really do this, Joe.
00:51:47
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:51:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, ask D-Wade about me, boy.
00:51:49
Speaker 3: All right, man. Man, this game here just went final. Texas Tech beat West Virginia 53-48. God, dog.
00:52:01
Speaker 1: Where the defense at? 582 for West Virginia.
00:52:06
Speaker 5: Where the defense?
00:52:08
Speaker 3: Nowhere. Both teams ran the ball for over 270 yards. Damn.
00:52:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, ain't nobody play no defense in that one. NIL and Portal has changed college football. Fewer teams are unbeaten this late in the season. Lowest since 1977. With 2014 playoffs coming, Should the top 25 and scheduling system change?
00:52:32
Speaker 3: It has to. Because basically, you're taking 2014. Hell, you're taking the top 25. Basically. What sense does that make? Nothing at all.
00:52:43
Speaker 5: But it makes sense to them because it's more.
00:52:45
Speaker 3: Never mind.
00:52:48
Speaker 1: Y'all Miami fans need to put down the Laporte 8. That was an incomplete pass. Quit feeling like refs did y'all colder than a polar bear's ass. This question's got nothing to do with anything, but if you put a grizzly bear, a lion, and a silverback in a cage, who wins? Also, if you were in there, Unks takes the gorilla, Ocho got the lion. Dang, Iso, I guess the grizzly bear.
00:53:15
Speaker 3: Let's see. Who I got?
00:53:18
Speaker 4: Ain't neither one of us got no chance.
00:53:21
Speaker 3: No chance, zero.
00:53:23
Speaker 4: Hold on, what do you mean neither one of who? Boy, you ain't got no champ or damn lion here. Boy, the lion take down a, what you call him? A Cape Buffalo.
00:53:33
Speaker 3: A Elan.
00:53:34
Speaker 1: Hold on, what's the animals in there again? A silverback gorilla, a lion, and a grizzly bear.
00:53:43
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey.
00:53:44
Speaker 6: We all gonna die, but who gonna die first?
00:53:47
Speaker 4: Ay, that silverback gonna whoop our ass, boy.
00:53:49
Speaker 3: I show him.
00:53:50
Speaker 1: Ay, ay, ay, Joe. Honestly, I done got it figured out. As long as you don't look at me, I'm just gonna sit down there like this here.
00:53:57
Speaker 4: Ay, he gonna slap you in the back.
00:54:02
Speaker 3: Ay, ay, with that grizzly skirt on, and that joke a 10-foot tall on you, Joe.
00:54:08
Speaker 5: Ay, what?
00:54:11
Speaker 3: Ay. I got to have a weapon. He slapped Joe one time, Mocho. It's over. Hey, listen.
00:54:19
Speaker 6: I'm sitting here talking trash, man.
00:54:21
Speaker 5: Shoot, I got slapped. I got slapped. Got my glasses knocked on my face.
00:54:26
Speaker 8: Hey, so you know with any of them, man.
00:54:31
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that.
00:54:34
Speaker 5: Hey, Chad.
00:54:35
Speaker 1: Boy, I can't wait to y'all watch the next episode of Nike Help Us.
00:54:39
Speaker 3: Hey, boy.
00:54:42
Speaker 1: All right, so what year in ATL you felt like it was a championship year?
00:54:53
Speaker 4: A championship year? I'm going to be honest with you. I ain't never thought we could win a title. I just thought, you know, we'll get teams here. Like, we played against that Bulls team when D-Rose won MVP, and we went in there and won game one after they gave him his MVP award. I think we won two games that series. That was second round. But outside of that, man, we played against some tough fans. I mean, we played against the Celtics who won it, hell, with KG Paul Pierce and Ray Allen and Rondo now. Outside of that, man, we played against some tough teams, bro. Now, I'm going to be honest with you. I ain't never think that we was going to win a title. I just felt we
was good teams. Hell, we give them good run for their money. UCLA and Utah in the top 10. USC, Oregon, and Arizona are in the top 25. The media killed the Pac-12 for the same thing y'all now praising the SEC for, parody. Not so easy playing nine-game schedule, is it, SEC fans?
00:55:54
Speaker 3: Nope. What's up, Big 3? My birthday was yesterday.
00:56:07
Speaker 1: Just turned 24 and thought it'd be dope if y'all could wish me a shout out.
00:56:11
Speaker 3: Would mean a lot. My name is Brandon. Been watching since day one. Love the show. Brandon.
00:56:16
Speaker 6: Brandon, what's up, Tweed?
00:56:18
Speaker 3: Man, what you do, man? You did a little something? Did something for two something? Oh, yeah. You already knew it. Yeah, I mean, yeah. What I give to be 24 one more time.
00:56:28
Speaker 2: Ooh.
00:56:28
Speaker 5: I don't even remember.
00:56:32
Speaker 3: I'm about to say, if only for one night. Damn.
00:56:37
Speaker 1: Got somebody in mind I want to put a mean demonstration down on.
00:56:41
Speaker 4: Damn.
00:56:41
Speaker 5: Hey, Uncle Joe, my 30-year high school reunion was tonight.
00:56:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, how was it?
00:56:51
Speaker 5: That thing was good, boy.
00:56:52
Speaker 3: Oh, you went?
00:56:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, I went, Joe. My flight landed. I was in Chattanooga, Tennessee with T.O. at his homecoming, right? So I left at halftime to make sure I can get back so I can see. I ain't seen any folks in 1996. Man, boy, that was a good time, man. Seeing some of them old faces, some people that was in class with me. Man, that was dope, man. That was really dope.
00:57:14
Speaker 4: Did you see Shorty? Did you see Shorty who went with the Zoe?
00:57:19
Speaker 3: Oh, man, look.
00:57:20
Speaker 5: Hey, remember? Hey, Joe, you got to think. During that time, I was a freshman, and I was dating a senior.
00:57:28
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, okay.
00:57:30
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I would date way above my pay grade.
00:57:33
Speaker 6: You feel me?
00:57:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. She was a little too fast for you. Yeah, yeah.
00:57:37
Speaker 6: She was grown.
00:57:38
Speaker 3: She was grown. Yeah, yeah.
00:57:42
Speaker 6: It's all good. It's all good.
00:57:43
Speaker 5: I enjoyed that. So all my 1996 Miami Beach alumni, I appreciate seeing all y'all.
00:57:50
Speaker 6: Y'all might be watching the show tonight. I salute you. If you are watching, please subscribe and like.
00:57:56
Speaker 5: And it was a pleasure seeing y'all after 30 years.
00:57:59
Speaker 6: And I love you.
00:58:00
Speaker 3: How many people did your graduating class, Ocho?
00:58:04
Speaker 6: Hey, that's a good question, boy. I'm not sure.
00:58:06
Speaker 5: Is there a way I could look that up? Miami Beach Senior High Class of 96.
00:58:12
Speaker 6: I have no idea.
00:58:14
Speaker 3: You ain't get no yearbook?
00:58:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, I ain't got.
00:58:16
Speaker 6: Boy, I don't know where that yearbook at, boy. I saw some. Hey, I was ugly as hell in
that yearbook, Ocho. Boy, you laughing.
00:58:23
Speaker 5: Hey, remember how biggie smalls I was?
00:58:26
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:58:26
Speaker 5: Remember how I told you I couldn't see?
00:58:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:58:30
Speaker 5: My eye was permanently like that, though. How big he was?
00:58:34
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:58:36
Speaker 5: You see that yearbook picture of me as a freshman? Boy, you'd be like, man, what in the hell? Joe, you laughing, Joe? No, my eye was crooked the whole time through high school.
00:58:49
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:58:50
Speaker 5: I don't know at what point it kind of straightened up, but I wear my glasses all the time because No, I could look at you right now, right? And it looked like it ain't nothing wrong. But if I keep talking and like a day's off or something, man, that thing a cock to the right, way. And y'all ain't going to make fun of me.
00:59:07
Speaker 2: What?
00:59:10
Speaker 1: The worst part about the Norfolk state game, even at the central scored after that fumble, Norfolk state had a chance to win with a 35 yard field goal and missed it. They should have had to fill a particular field goal. If the guy did what he was asked, which was, which Michael said, Mike said he instructed victory formation, victory formation.
00:59:28
Speaker 3: You take three knees.
00:59:30
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:59:31
Speaker 3: They shouldn't even come down to that. Yeah.
00:59:34
Speaker 1: Huge 41 points from Steph Curry. Extremely efficient. Clutch bucket after bucket down the stretch. Most 40-point games after turning 35. Still top five in the league at 38. MVP season. Them Dawgs put down a mean demonstration tonight, fellas.
00:59:51
Speaker 3: Oh, they did. They did.
00:59:52
Speaker 6: Yes, they did.
00:59:54
Speaker 1: Georgia turned blue. They said, we're going to turn Ole Miss blue. We're going to turn Mississippi blue. All right, so y'all have to pick one. Use a public bathroom or sleep over at Ocho. Or let Ocho teach an education class with his toy.
01:00:06
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on.
01:00:09
Speaker 1: I ain't use no public bathroom. I don't care nothing about no toy. I'm sleeping on the couch, Joe.
01:00:16
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, listen. Hey, Uncle Joe, y'all come here, man. Y'all come to Miami. You ain't got to get in a hotel. I got about six, seven rooms here, man, you can choose from.
01:00:25
Speaker 6: So you good?
01:00:26
Speaker 3: I got to stop by Target to get some Solo cups. Yo, I got to get some paper plates. Some plastic wear. Hold on.
01:00:38
Speaker 6: I got plastic wear.
01:00:39
Speaker 5: I got Dixie paper cups. I got some red Solo cups here. You don't need nothing. You good.
01:00:46
Speaker 3: Nope.
01:00:48
Speaker 1: Hey, Big 3, my sister Elizabeth and my bro Kendall both beat cancer a month apart. Can y'all show them some love? God is good. God is good all the time. Elizabeth, Kendall, hey, congratulations for kicking cancer's ass. That is a dreaded disease, but you guys overcame. So congratulations, and know everybody at Nightcap got big.
01:01:12
Speaker 3: Ups for you. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
01:01:15
Speaker 1: Big three, I know we're not where we should be, but do we get Tyson and Kelvin Banks back tomorrow?
01:01:24
Speaker 3: And I think we win. Ocho, Sinatra, Mathis, or Andy Williams?
01:01:28
Speaker 6: Sinatra.
01:01:29
Speaker 5: Sinatra.
01:01:30
Speaker 6: Sinatra first.
01:01:31
Speaker 5: You know that.
01:01:32
Speaker 6: You know?
01:01:34
Speaker 3: Sinatra.
01:01:35
Speaker 6: Who are the other two?
01:01:36
Speaker 1: Mathis.
01:01:37
Speaker 3: You talking about Johnny Mathis? I'm assuming Johnny Mathis and Andy Williams.
01:01:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, Johnny Mathis, then Andy. But you know Sinatra. For that, I mean, that's my favorite artist. That's my favorite. My entire house is portraits of Sinatra in different moments throughout his career.
01:01:55
Speaker 6: Not even close.
01:01:58
Speaker 1: Texas win by 14. Mizzou laid an egg the last three drives. Officiating had nothing to do. Nothing in the end. Don't leave the game in their hands and you have no issues.
01:02:11
Speaker 6: True.
01:02:12
Speaker 3: Very, very true.
01:02:17
Speaker 1: Again, that completes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us for this episode. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite hunk. My partner and co-host just came from his 30th year class reunion. He's the rock runner extraordinaire, the all-time leading receiver in Bengals history, a pro bowler, an all-pro. That is Chad Ochocinco Johnson, the third member of the Big Three. He has a 30-year coming up very, very soon. He is a seven-time NBA All-Star and an All-NBA selection from the University of Arkansas, Little Rock, Arkansas native, Iso Joe Johnson.
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01:04:10
Speaker 3: 41-28.
01:04:13
Speaker 1: Michael Vick was very upset because it seemed like his wishes were ignored. He asked for a victory formation. They ran a play. They fumbled. Central scores, and they lose the ball game. Thank you guys for joining us.
01:04:26
Speaker 2: I'm Up.
01:04:27
Speaker 3: He's Ocho. He's Iso. We'll see you tomorrow night after Sunday Night Football.
01:04:31
Speaker 5: Let's go, Bengals! Thank you.