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Speaker 1: NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcast. It is week seven of the NFL Cover Zero. Getting ready for another week of action. It is Wednesday. Lots of news has happened since the last time we were on the air. Drew Franklin is here. Thank you guys for filling in while I went to Oklahoma. Billy R. Sports joining us as well.
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma was a fun.
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Speaker 1: Trip where the cold wind blows, but I missed being able to sit and talk about the NFL with you all.
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Speaker 2: We missed you.
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Speaker 1: Did you? I feel like you like when I'm not here. I feel like you kind of think that's Billy's time to shine.
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Speaker 2: Well, I definitely have more opinions when you're gone. There's no doubt about that.
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Speaker 1: You don't want to have opinions when I'm here. No, I take your opinion.
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Speaker 2: I have them. They just get mocked sometimes when you're here.
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Speaker 1: Drew doesn't mock them?
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Speaker 2: No, not as much. Well, your Drew is nicer. We did throw out the picks after last week. We didn't do the best pick-wise, so we're good. We're ready to go.
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Speaker 1: You all did picks without me?
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Speaker 2: No, we didn't. That's the point. Yeah, we didn't.
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Speaker 1: Okay, got you. Well, I don't want you to think— We also didn't give you Matthew Stafford as a.
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Speaker 2: Touchdown score either while you were gone, which didn't hit.
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Speaker 1: You gave me Matthew Stafford? We made your touchdown pick for you. Why would you give me the least mobile quarterback in football? Well, you weren't here, but we decided we should just.
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Speaker 2: Throw that out too. It'd been quite the story. So last week didn't happen.
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Speaker 1: Okay. That would have been very unfair. You give me Aaron Rodgers as the quarterback pick.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you're here now. I don't want you to feel like you can't give an opinion. So why don't you just right now, just give an NFL opinion. I'm not going to. I would never mock it. I just want to show you how open I am to your opinions. Why don't you just go ahead and give an NFL. These opinions that apparently you don't believe you can have in the regular show.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to think. I've got so many. What hot take should I present to you today? I think we need a team in London. I don't know if that's much of a hot take, but this should have been done five years ago. Expand the game.
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Speaker 1: OK, that's very timely. Yes. Which is what I like. I don't disagree with you about that. I do think we should have a team in London. They seem to like it. The whole bloody country could get excited about it, wouldn't it? Not that hard to get to. And yeah, I mean, he's been making fairly quick flight. We're already there for games all the time. So yeah,
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I'll take it. What do you think about that? One step further, just pick up Jacksonville and put them there. Make that the team. The problem with doing any more expansion is they have the perfect number. They have eight divisions of four teams. So just move Jacksonville. We have the answer. That's right.
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Speaker 2: AFC South includes London.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's fair to the good people of Jacksonville. Aren't they just building a stadium? You're going to let them build the stadium and then they're getting out?
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Speaker 2: They like London.
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Speaker 1: They like it better than Jacksonville.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, talk to the people of St.
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Speaker 1: Louis.
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Speaker 2: They didn't want their team to leave, but they did. But they hadn't just built a stadium. I think that would be wrong. They build you a football stadium and then you're gone. Half home games, London, half Jacksonville. That, I think, isn't a bad idea. But I think they should just have a team in London.
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Speaker 1: But the reality is, I feel like I don't know how you do it now without it being unbalanced. They're going to have to add like eight new teams at once.
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Speaker 2: Or.
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Speaker 1: Kick the Chargers out of the league.
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Speaker 2: Now we're talking.
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Speaker 1: Now we're talking. The Chargers do not need a team. There we go. I almost said Titans, but now it's the Chargers that are in that spot. But what would be wrong with sending the Chargers to London? London doesn't deserve the Chargers. The Chargers are better off just being pushed out. Just send the Chargers to London. I mean, that's not really on the West Coast, but you know, so what? You have to fly so far anyway. London would send them back. They don't want Mike McDaniel.
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Speaker 2: You don't need two teams in L.A. anyway.
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Speaker 1: I agree with that. People don't like one of them.
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Speaker 2: It was a good take, though, Billy.
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Speaker 3: I felt the passion in that we shouldn't be holding you back like we have been.
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Speaker 1: That's true. I'll tell you what. I'll give you every midweek show for the rest of the year. We'll let you have a take. I love it.
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Speaker 2: Let me off the leash.
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Speaker 1: There was one more Billy News item while you were gone. What was that? His survivor, one-man survivor pull is now over.
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Speaker 2: It's over. Who did you have? The Colts over the Titans.
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Speaker 1: Why did you pick that?
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Speaker 2: Because the Titans, I thought, were historically bad. I thought it was going to be 0-17. Tried to get one by them. Did you try to get cute? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: See, you can't get cute. All right, so you're out. Last year, you got almost all the way through the year, didn't you? Yes. Week 12 or 13.
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Speaker 2: Survivor pools, you can buy back in. Do we need to buy back in and start over on this?
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Speaker 1: What survivor pool can you buy back in?
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Speaker 2: Like 99% of them.
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Speaker 1: What one?
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Speaker 2: Like the one that you do on ESPN.com.
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Speaker 1: How many times can you buy back in?
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Speaker 2: Like every week? You can until like a certain week. If you want to put another entry in.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like a who has the most money. You can't do that one. It sounds like who's the richest. Just buy back until it's over.
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Speaker 2: I win. Yeah, you get past week six. That's capitalism.
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Speaker 1: White sage capitalism right there. OK, so but the big one, you can't do that, right? The circle one.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't think for the million dollars.
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Speaker 1: I think I saw they have the fewest people left at this point of any time they've ever done the circle one because there's been so many upsets.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been some crazy upsets. Few weeks ago, we had like three touchdown favorites go down.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. So, Billy, I guess we'll start since midweek with the news. I'm going to assume your first news item, if it isn't, should have been Jalen Hurts.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can start there. It was number two, but we'll make it number one.
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Speaker 1: Why don't you go ahead and start with that one then?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the NFLPA issued a statement on Tuesday night calling for an investigation into the handling of the Jalen Hurts situation, which resulted in the player traveling to London with a blood clot in his leg, playing with a blood clot in his leg, and then traveling back to Philadelphia. Hurts was placed on injured reserve on Saturday. He's likely to miss the remainder of the season after it was discovered there are several blood clots found in his lungs. The NFL concluded the situation... and said that it was handled appropriately.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look, I'm not a medical professional, unlike most of the people on Facebook anytime anything happens. It is an odd situation. What happened? Where they say, like, you can't sleep, but you can play football. I don't know when that's happened before in history. Where you say, all right, no sneezing, but you are allowed to run a marathon. Do not fall asleep. However, here's a large defensive tackle that will be chasing you the day after you haven't slept. So, but with that said, I mean, I guess that's, you know, a debate between Hertz and the players and whoever. As far as him being out, I mean, they said it has blood clots in his lung. That seems to me to be very serious. he's at least out for the year. So we'll start with this. Does that like, does that end their season?
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Speaker 3: I already thought their season was over, but this definitely ends it. And at full on, I don't know about intentionally taking, but you're looking at like a draft pick. You're so far removed.
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Speaker 1: But they're in a division that stinks.
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Speaker 3: There is a gift where you've got the Giants without their starting quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Jalen Daniels up and down. Jaden Daniels up and down in Washington. They haven't been good. And then Dallas is a mess. But I still, what do they got? Tanner McKee? Is that what we're rolling with?
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Speaker 2: Have they signed anybody? Joe Milton. So Tanner McKee.
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Speaker 1: I love when guys just pop back into my life. Who was it that just signed Andy Dalton?
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Speaker 2: Andy Dalton signed with the team, not with the Eagles.
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Speaker 1: I just love the Andy Dalton. And then, oh, by the way, here's Joe Milton. Case Keenum earlier this year. I just love when names come back. But Joe Milton's not going to.
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Speaker 2: No, it is over.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they've been out without Saquon. Their season was a disappointment before they even got to this. And now not having Hurts the rest of the year. I can't imagine them doing anything to make a run at the playoffs. And then I believe, if I'm correct, they kind of have to make Jalen Hurts' contract extension decision, I want to say next year. So you do have to think about kind of long term. I mean, two years ago, you won the Super Bowl. And now you kind of have to think long term, like, is this going to be... Is this going to be our guy? And I don't know what the answer to that question will be. I mean, they say he's going to make a full recovery. I will trust that's the case. I mean, Wimby, I guess, had a blood clot issue and that ended up OK. But then Chris Bosh had a blood clot issue and he didn't play anymore. So, you know, I guess everything is its own situation. But it's a bummer. And it is a spectacular fall for the Eagles. Yeah, I mean, they've been bad this year, but they weren't good last year.
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Speaker 2: They were Super Bowl champs, though, two years ago.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they tried to make Brown kind of a scapegoat with what was wrong in the locker room. Now we see he's in New England not doing anything.
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Speaker 1: Dropping everything.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they haven't really recovered after trying to remove him from the situation to get things back on the track. And this is just another thing on the list where the Eagles are just spiraling since that Super Bowl win.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And would you fire Sirianni? Yes.
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Speaker 2: Why?
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Speaker 3: I know he just had a Super Bowl. I mean, a lot of it is I feel like Eagles fans don't even like him and he brought him a ring. But that offense should be better. I know they've been dealing with injuries. This is a new thing that just popped up.
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Speaker 1: So how do we explain that they won the Super Bowl? Like, do you think he just forgot how to coach in the last two years?
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Speaker 2: Saquon. I mean, didn't he go crazy that year? Was that the 2000 yard year that he had?
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Speaker 1: It was. Or I don't know if it was 2000, but he had a massive year. And not having him matters this season. I mean, so you take away... what were their three best players.
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Speaker 2: Lane johnson was somebody that retired this year with mental health.
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Speaker 1: So like how's all this nick sirianni's fault Listen, I don't even like Nick Sirianni, but I do wonder why everyone just gets mad at him. Saquon's hurt. Hurts is hurt. Lane Johnson retires. A.J. Brown's gone. That's four of probably the five best offensive players on the team. Jason Kelsey retired. I guess that was the year before the Super Bowl. They lost their tush push. That was their secret weapon. That was their secret weapon. Now they're not pushing tush anymore. No more pushy out of the tushy.
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Speaker 2: What's so funny, Billy? It's true. The buck stops with coach. I mean, that's the simple terms of it.
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Speaker 1: I wonder how many times in history the Super Bowl winning coach has been fired for a non-scandal within two years. In hockey, that happens every year. In hockey, they'll fire you during the ceremony. congratulations you're fired as you're holding up the cup they're like get out of here I mean I know I've told this story a bunch but the guy who lost in the finals in game six got fired at the end of the year That's insane.
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Speaker 2: So it can happen.
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Speaker 1: It can happen. But in football, you just don't see it happen like this a lot. No. But, I mean, the Eagles fans aren't happy, and it's been that big of a fall.
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Speaker 2: So I get it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, there you go. We obviously hope Jalen Hurts gets healthy and that everything works out with him. But tough, tough piece of news. So that was your second thing. Yes. So what's your first? I have a guess. What's your guess?
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Speaker 2: Does it involve Washington?
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Speaker 1: No. Okay. So I got to see what you think is the big story that's come out.
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Speaker 2: Well, Jay-Z selecting Jay-Z to perform for the Super Bowl halftime show.
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Speaker 1: That was going to be your first story.
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Speaker 2: That was number one.
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Speaker 1: But Roger Goodell said today, said that's not true yet.
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Speaker 2: Well, more people tune into the halftime show than they do the actual game.
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Speaker 1: What do you make of the fact that our boss, the commissioner, just said that that's not official yet?
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll call Roger after the throw and we can talk about it.
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Speaker 1: He was on the front row of the Knicks game last night.
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Speaker 2: Saw that, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, got good seats. He's a dad gene guy. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Wears them well. He's my commish.
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Speaker 1: Definitely a dad gene. Like all those people are in all the fashionable things and he's like, hello. But let's just assume it's Jay-Z because he didn't say it wasn't Jay-Z.
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Speaker 2: And Jay-Z has been choosing the Super Bowl halftime show since 2019. So you think waiting eight years until he picks himself. I think that's fair. I mean, if it would have been year one or two, it would have felt a little icky.
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Speaker 1: And he's big enough, right? Like, it's not like you hired the Imagine Dragons to pick it and then they pick themselves. You'd be like, well, I don't know if the Imagine Dragons are big enough. Jay-Z is big enough that even if someone else were picking it, it would have made sense if they picked him.
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Speaker 3: And he doesn't have to leave his own bedroom to find someone to join him on stage. That would probably get a big attention. Maybe Beyonce will be involved. He's got plenty of people on his label. You know, the halftime show, there's always other surprises and guests.
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Speaker 1: That pop up. So who all has collaborated with Jay-Z? Like, who may I see on the... Well, he's actually used a lot of them already for halftime shows, like Rihanna and Kendrick Lamar. But give me... Okay, so Kendrick Lamar, you're going to have to help me here with songs. What did they do together? I don't know if he's featured on one. Are they going to bring the children from Hard Knock Life? Oh, they could. You know, for a long time, he and Kanye had a lot of hits, but I don't know. I don't think they're going to bring Kanye to the Super Bowl right now. I don't think there's enough time. Yeah, I don't think they're going to be Drake either. Jay-Z's been featured with a lot of people, but in 2026, I don't know if they're still friendly.
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Speaker 2: Would you like to see Alicia Keys sing about New York City in Los Angeles?
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's weird. But that's a song that should be on there, right? Because it is a concrete jungle.
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Speaker 2: But she just performed a couple years ago.
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Speaker 1: That's the thing. Jay-Z's already put all of his people up. You can have them come and like... Stand there. Usher's another Jay-Z connection. He did the Super Bowl. What was their song? Jay-Z did a great job of getting all his friends and putting them up first. Which is nice. What did Jay-Z do with Usher?
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Speaker 3: Well, they're not all featuring songs. They're signed to the label and things like that. I'm sure they have one that's not coming to mind.
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Speaker 1: So usually they do four songs. What would Jay-Z's four songs be? Do you do Hard Knock Life, or is that too cheesy? I think... If it's more than four, it makes the list if there's eight, I think. Like, what are his biggest songs? I mean, I think New York is one, but it is in L.A. That's weird.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you almost have to stay away from that. Run This Town, he's on there. That's more of that.
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Speaker 1: It's got Kanye and Rihanna. How's Run This Town go?
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Speaker 4: 99 Problems, Dirt Off Your Shoulder.
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Speaker 1: I know 99 Problems.
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Speaker 2: Those are good old ones, yeah.
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Speaker 1: And a Mitch ain't one.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: And then what's the other one? Run Your... Dirt Off Your Shoulder. How's that go?
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Speaker 2: Oh, okay. I do know that one.
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Speaker 1: I know that one. All right. So these are good. Yeah. Yeah. In Paris... I don't think you can do that one. That's another Kanye.
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Speaker 2: I don't think you can do that. Yeah, you can do the edited.
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Speaker 1: He's got a lot to choose from. I think it's going to be hard. I think he's got to bring out Hard Knock Life, bring out the children.
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Speaker 4: They could be on there, Big Pimpin'. Big Pimpin's definitely on there.
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Speaker 2: Exactly.
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Speaker 1: Jay-Z's got a whole Rolodex he can pull from. You think if they get the original children from this, they're grownups now. Maybe you need to get their children. I like the idea of bringing the original children, but they are grown up. So you see like all these balding people going, it's a hard knock life. Because for now, now it really is for them a hard knock life. We thought that check would last longer. Now they're like, I understood what I was singing about. Our mortgage is due. It is a hard knock life, Jay. You were right.
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Speaker 2: Public service announcement. That's a big one.
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Speaker 1: Good for him. Any chance he brings on Bubba Sparks as a special guest? I actually just saw Bubba Sparks.
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Speaker 2: Was he in Kentucky? He popped up somewhere.
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Speaker 1: Very skinny.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't look at all like Bubba.
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Speaker 1: Oh, he's skinny. Yeah. I don't like that. He got on the GLs. I think when people who are known for being fat get skinny, that's a mistake. The version of Bubba Sparks I saw in this photo could have walked in this room right now and none of us would have known. Jonah Hill. Luther Vandross.
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Speaker 2: Jelly roll.
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Speaker 1: Jelly roll does not look good. You can't be like jelly, you know, flatbread. You have to be a roll. I want everybody to be healthy, but at the same time, sometimes it's your character to.
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Speaker 2: Be a little unhealthy.
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Speaker 1: Who else is like that, that was known for being large? Did you ever see Pavarotti when he got skinny? I don't think so. I can't picture him being skinny. Yeah, because he was like, I think I want my opera singers to be fat, too. I thought that was a requirement. You got to have a little meat on you. How are you supposed to hit those notes?
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Speaker 2: Well, nowadays, Ozempic, everybody's getting skinny, and you can kind of tell when they use.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, I've said this. I feel this way. We don't know what that stuff's going to do to us long term.
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Speaker 2: Well, neither myself.
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Speaker 1: Unless they're a sponsor on this show, at
which point I say do it. What's next?
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Speaker 2: Some interesting news coming out of the Titans camp. Drew, you may have seen this. They released very interesting offensive tackle Jordan Elliott after an alleged practice altercation with offensive tackle J.C. Latham last Thursday. After being told to leave the field, Elliott took off his pads and stormed out of the facility, then went to the players lot to retrieve a gun. Oh, my goodness.
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Speaker 1: I didn't hear this.
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Speaker 2: Allegedly. Security cameras captured the sequence. Defensive lineman John Franklin Myers talked him down. No one was hurt from the situation. Elliott did not play in the Titans win over the Colts and was then released on Tuesday. He signed a two year, eight million dollar deal in the offseason. Wow.
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Speaker 1: That's a big mistake. But it could have been worse. The Titans have a good culture. Uh, no. Well, we have a good enough culture that John Franklin Myers met in the parking lot and handled it. What could have happened?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: That is insane. Like, football fights happen all the time. Who says, hang on, I'll be right back, and walks out to the truck? This is some crazy behavior.
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Speaker 3: I can understand why he's not on the roster anymore, despite signing a two-year deal.
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Speaker 1: When I first heard the story, I think I saw that he had been kicked off after a fight. I was like, well, I mean, why don't they kick him? Are they going to kick them both out? But if you're going to get a gun, that's taking it to another level.
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Speaker 2: The Titans were very vague in their statement saying there was an issue internally. Yeah. Why he left. And this reporting being done by local reporters in Nashville.
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Speaker 1: Jared Stillman?
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Speaker 2: No, not him. I think it's Easton.
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Speaker 1: Freeze?
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Speaker 2: Freeze or something like that. Look at that.
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Speaker 1: I know the Titans reporters. Well, that's, I mean, I don't know what to say about that, except don't do that.
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Speaker 2: Glad it wasn't much worse. Don't do that.
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Speaker 1: When I get upset at Mario. I'm just like, Mario, will you not do that?
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Speaker 2: Also, we just won. How are we not happy?
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Speaker 1: That's a good question. I mean, if we lost again, not saying you should do it, but you understand there's chaos. It happened after the win.
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Speaker 2: It happened earlier this week, didn't it? Yes, it happened. Well, it happened before the game. Then they released him Tuesday. So he did not play in the game.
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Speaker 1: So maybe he was the problem. Maybe the Titans are gonna go on a big winning streak.
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Speaker 3: We control our own destiny in the AFC South it's big big deal around here.
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Speaker 1: I like that I think if I was a football coach I would just start so you know we control our own destiny we do Got the Browns this week. And then one day you have to be like, our destiny is out of our hands. Oh, guys, bad news. We lost control of our own destiny. Our destiny is now we have no free will. What's next?
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about a couple NFC East teams. The first is the New York Giants, who released their running back Najee Harris on Tuesday, 48 hours after he had two carries for four yards on Sunday in the loss to the Saints. In the locker room immediately after the game, Harris was critical of his role with the team, saying it was impossible for anyone to get into a rhythm without a steady workload. Well, John Harbaugh heard that and cut him 48 hours later.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like they did what he wanted.
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Speaker 2: In five games and one start, Harris had 31 attempts for 99 yards. Before he was cut.
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Speaker 1: So was he... So Scadaboo also is complaining about playing time.
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Speaker 2: They benched him just for the fumble, right?
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Speaker 1: So who's playing? I guess they go back to Scadaboo? No, but I mean, who was playing if Scadaboo wasn't playing and Najee Harris wasn't playing? There's Tyrone Tracy got some carries. There's another running back that got a few looks. Kind of by committee.
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Speaker 2: There's not a big name.
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Speaker 1: So no one's really good.
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Speaker 2: Correct.
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Speaker 1: I was impressed. The thing I took away from this story is that Najee.
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Speaker 2: Harris was still in the league.
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Speaker 1: Maybe this is why he's getting better more runs. I was really pleasantly surprised. I feel like he and Alvin Kamara will be in the league when I'm 65. I'll be like, really? Alvin Kamara is still playing.
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Speaker 3: But Najee, though, I mean, if you want to keep this run, like Alvin Kamara, you know what Alvin Kamara doesn't do? He doesn't complain afterwards. He just does his job and shows up the next week.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't complain. He doesn't go out to the parking lot and get a weapon. By the way, has Alvin Kamara, has any running back in modern era played for one team longer than he has played for New Orleans?
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Speaker 2: It's a good question. Feels like he's been there forever. How long has he been there?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to think. Because running backs notoriously switch teams. So I'm trying to think. Curtis Martin.
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Speaker 2: The Jets.
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Speaker 1: But did he leave the Jets ever? I feel like he did at the end, didn't he?
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Speaker 2: Probably. You know, even like a, it's not modern. Emmitt Smith went to the Cardinals eventually, right?
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Speaker 1: Did Adrian Peterson play for anyone else? The Titans. He bounced around.
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Speaker 2: He was Vikings for a while and then bounced a couple times. You're right about running backs, though.
00:22:27
Speaker 1: Running backs are, well, because people think they're
disposable. So they end up kind of. Yeah.
00:22:32
Speaker 3: You're 10 for Najee Harris. And that's not like he had a few years of not playing much.
00:22:36
Speaker 2: It's like.
00:22:37
Speaker 1: What is your problem, Kamara?
00:22:39
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
00:22:39
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's what I meant. Yeah, Alvin Kamara is 10. And like 10 consistently getting all the carries. Curtis Martin, he went longer than 10. Curtis Martin has like, he's a Hall of Famer. He's like a guy in the Hall of Fame that you'd be like, really? He's in the Hall of Fame? But then when you look at his numbers, he should be in the Hall of Fame. I was listening to. He had eight with the Jets, but had three in New England before that.
00:23:04
Speaker 2: So he did 11 years.
00:23:04
Speaker 1: Oh, he was the New England first. Okay. I was listening to the New York sports radio in our car driving back from Oklahoma. And they have now like all the major cities, big sports radio stations. So I was listening to New York and there's a show. It's like. Hangman and Tiki, right? And Tiki is Tiki Barber. This guy called in and he goes, biggest outrage in sports is Tiki. You're not in the Hall of Fame. I was like, really? Have you ever thought about Tiki Barber being in the Hall of Fame or not?
00:23:46
Speaker 3: I mean, he got his Super Bowl ring unexpectedly. I feel like that was a bigger compliment.
00:23:50
Speaker 1: That was a good ceiling for Tiki Barber was that Should he be in the Hall of Fame? Because this guy was outraged on the radio. They were like, would you like to talk about the game? And he just kept talking about Tiki Barber not being in the Hall of Fame.
00:24:01
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I had to look at stats, but it is a football family. His twin brother, Rondé, is in the Hall of Fame.
00:24:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that doesn't mean. Oh, Rondé made it in.
00:24:09
Speaker 2: That changes for me. They should just put him in. Rondé' s in, yeah. Just put him in.
00:24:13
Speaker 1: They already have a bust. That's a good job. You beat me to it, Billy. All right, what's next?
00:24:17
Speaker 2: What's next is what happened in the Monday night football game between the Commanders and the 49ers. Down 13-3, the Commanders faced a fourth and two at the 49ers' 13-yard line. A touchdown attempt fell through the air incomplete, and Dan Quinn was seen on the sideline questioning whether it was fourth down or not and not knowing the situation.
00:24:37
Speaker 1: Did you see there? Someone went online and took up for him and showed how he got there. Something about it was like a pre he thought it was a pre snap penalty.
00:24:48
Speaker 2: That's what he says in the press conference after the game. He is saying that he knew it was fourth down. He was didn't know what the penalty was in case like they needed to be able to re kick or if it was not a down costing penalty.
00:25:03
Speaker 1: Do you believe him? Yes. Good. Why do you believe me?
00:25:10
Speaker 2: Because that would be egregious if not. Like, that would be.
00:25:12
Speaker 1: I mean, they had a pretty egregious mess up last week.
00:25:15
Speaker 2: That'd be bounds of firing right after the game.
00:25:18
Speaker 1: Grounds. Grounds. What did I say?
00:25:20
Speaker 2: Bounds. Oh, well, same difference.
00:25:22
Speaker 1: Billy's playing nice. I don't believe him at all. His mouth said, oh, it's fourth down. Like, he basically looked at the camera and acted puzzled that it was fourth down. Yeah. These guys got to remember... There are cameras everywhere.
00:25:32
Speaker 3: So when you say something and tell us you didn't say it, I don't even have to be an expert lip reader to know you were surprised that it was fourth down.
00:25:39
Speaker 1: I'm surprised he didn't get fired. I kind of thought that that would be the obvious, like this would be the day. And he got through the week. Especially coming off the one two weeks ago. By itself, maybe give him a pass. But you've now fumbled coaching two weeks in a row. Yeah, I thought he was going to get fired. I'm really surprised about Jaden Daniels, that he just hasn't been. Granted, it's only second game back from injury, but. Still has been disappointing. But the NFC is so bad, they still have a chance. Everybody is still in it. Yeah, so, all right, who's next?
00:26:10
Speaker 2: I got one more, and then we'll head to games. The Rams are 2-4, surprisingly, this year, and Matthew Stafford is on the cusp of history. Stafford has a career record of 122, 122 and one as a starting quarterback.
00:26:22
Speaker 1: Oh, interesting.
00:26:23
Speaker 2: Those 122 losses are the second most in NFL history behind Vinny Testaverde, who went 91, 23 and one. So with another loss, Stafford will tie the record for the most losses in the NFL as a quarterback.
00:26:36
Speaker 1: So is that something to be proud of?
00:26:40
Speaker 2: Yes, because you have to be a good quarterback to still be around for that many games. I think it says more about longevity. I mean, people focus on that.
00:26:47
Speaker 1: But you have to be good to be longevity. That's what I mean. I think it's a positive sign.
00:26:52
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:26:53
Speaker 1: I think, do you know who has the most losses in baseball?
00:26:58
Speaker 2: I don't.
00:26:58
Speaker 1: Who? I believe, I could be wrong about this, but I think it's the same person that has the most wins. Cy Young.
00:27:05
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:27:06
Speaker 1: Because he used to pitch every day. Like, just was like, I don't care. Just throw me out there again. I'm sure, like, the leader in interceptions, it might be, is it Favre or something? It's a good point. It's just from playing so much, you eventually have to throw so many interceptions. Yeah. Well, it is interesting, though, because, like, if you were to say to me, like, Finney Testaverde feels like the perfect person for that stat. Because he was just good enough to always play, but he
was not great. But Matthew Stafford, people believe, is great. So it would be weird when he takes it. It feels like then it's– Vinny Tessimardi should have that award. And, you know, Myron thought he would because Myron had a 68% chance the Rams would go undefeated, and they're 2-4.
00:27:51
Speaker 2: That was the take of the year.
00:27:53
Speaker 1: That really, like, so disappointing, right, that they're 2-4?
00:27:57
Speaker 2: Shocking.
00:27:57
Speaker 1: And to lose last week, the Cardinals didn't score a touchdown, and you still lost. Six field goals. You lost to field goals to Arizona. Yeah. McVay– Just seems like he's lost, which is odd because I think he's so smart. And he just, you know, his press conferences are now like 40 seconds and then he runs away.
00:28:19
Speaker 3: The one after the Bills loss, he said it's the maddest he's ever been after a game. And then you turn around and lose to Arizona.
00:28:24
Speaker 1: Well, he got what he deserved because he cut the thicker kicker. He acted like it was the thicker kicker's fault. And then he brings in this other guy. What was that guy doing?
00:28:32
Speaker 2: Oh, is he OK?
00:28:33
Speaker 1: Is he alive?
00:28:35
Speaker 2: Yes, Blake Groupie. He is not on the team anymore. He tore his ACL, so he is out for the year.
00:28:39
Speaker 1: How did he tear it? It looked like he broke his body. It just spun. He looked like a little brag doll. I don't understand how in that he tore his ACL. Of all the things I thought would be wrong with him, I thought the ACL was the least likely. From whiplash of all that's spinning his legs. I thought they were just going to have to carry him away. He broke everything. What was he even trying to do?
00:29:03
Speaker 2: Make a play.
00:29:04
Speaker 1: But the guy was running out of bounds.
00:29:06
Speaker 2: Prove himself to his teammates. And three times his size. You know, I saw somebody say this is the perfect embodiment of one of us trying to tackle an NFL player and what it would look like.
00:29:13
Speaker 1: I like that. That's a good call.
00:29:14
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:29:15
Speaker 1: You know, what we don't try to do is tackle an NFL player.
00:29:17
Speaker 2: Yeah. Because we know better.
00:29:19
Speaker 1: I did like my favorite thing about that story was when they said after the game, he came into the locker room on crutches and said goodbye to his teammates. I bet they were like, who are you again? You just got here. You only got here on Wednesday.
00:29:35
Speaker 2: Oh, you played here?
00:29:37
Speaker 1: I picture him having this like emotional goodbye where he was like, it's been wonderful with you.
00:29:42
Speaker 2: Let's clean it out.
00:29:43
Speaker 1: We will share these days for the rest of our lives. They're like, what groupie? That's your name. So I was a new kicker, which leads to something I've thought about for years. If you are a kicker that when the season starts does not make a team. Are you just praying for pain and injury for someone? Like, you're just sitting at home going, get hurt, get hurt. Or miss. Like, you're the biggest hater. You sit at home and boo every extra point. You're hoping everyone gets booed. Everyone misses. Everyone gets hurt. You're kicking every morning. And you're waiting for that phone to ring. Every year, three or four of them get picked up.
00:30:22
Speaker 2: Yeah. You can't live like that. You can't be rooting for injuries, Matt.
00:30:26
Speaker 1: Well, what are you supposed to do? Because kicker's not like other positions where there has to be an opening. It's like long snapper. You can't just sit at home and go, maybe he'll, like, somebody's got to get hurt.
00:30:37
Speaker 2: You had to stay ready. I mean, this is a position that happens every year, right? There's always going to be turnover. So you just got to wait for your shot. But you're saying you can't sit at home and hate? Because I'm absolutely doing that. No, no, no.
00:30:47
Speaker 1: I'm rooting against all of them. I'm just yelling miss at every game, every kicker. Miss. I'm the biggest hater in the NFL on my couch. And then Groupie was like, I'll show them. I'll throw myself into this train when I get there. Who did they pick up? Do you know?
00:31:02
Speaker 2: Brandon McManus was one of the kickers they picked up. I think they got a little competition going on this week.
00:31:22
Speaker 1: Some game picks. Good Thursday night game to start. It is the 40th anniversary of the Super Bowl. Patriots and Bears. They played 40 years ago in the famous they didn't come here to feathers kerfuffle. It's both teams four and two.
00:31:42
Speaker 2: Big game.
00:31:43
Speaker 1: What do you think?
00:31:45
Speaker 3: Great quarterback matchup here with your two favorites, Drake May and Caleb Williams.
00:31:51
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:31:52
Speaker 3: Ah chicago being at home is tempting but new england really turned a corner with that buffalo win i'm gonna i'm gonna trust the patriots here i think they're back and maybe not being a super bowl contender but it looked like they had taken a big drop off from last year they're kind of getting back to form as the season goes on so you're gonna trust the process i'm gonna trust the process with the pats but i have liked the bears all year and have not wavered so i'm generally torn here i still think the bears are very very good but i'm gonna side with the pats in the thursday night game on the road.
00:32:21
Speaker 1: Bears are my team, and they tend to win when I don't pick them.
00:32:27
Speaker 2: A little reverse jinx here.
00:32:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to take the Patriots. Plus, I think this is a toss-up. You're giving me three with the Patriots. When I think it's a toss-up, I take the points, so I'm going to take the pass. New England's been a good road team.
00:32:39
Speaker 2: I think you saw the impact of Caleb Williams in the very first quarter. He went like 11 for 11 in that game.
00:32:44
Speaker 1:
He was 30 for 36 in that game.
00:32:46
Speaker 2: So, I will take the Bears.
00:32:47
Speaker 1: Steelers and Saints are going to La Prairie. Where, has anybody watched the news?
00:32:54
Speaker 2: There's heightened security at the game.
00:32:56
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it seems like it's calmed down. I watched a bunch of stuff about it just during Killing Time. French are just such interesting people. I mean, like the cities are burning down and they're just like, people are like, look, I still got to get my croissant.
00:33:17
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:33:18
Speaker 1: Excuse me. Will you please move out of the way? I want coffee. I do give that I do give the fridge credit for that. The videos of let me just say I'm anti looting. But the videos of everybody running in and stealing like, you know, Burberry bags by the dozens. And then I saw one guy ran out. He had like seven. And then he just threw and hit a guy standing in the face. That was probably a $ 5, 000 purse.
00:33:49
Speaker 2: And he just used it like a rock. I saw someone walking by.
00:33:52
Speaker 1: I just found an unopened Rolex. I don't know that someone dropped while they were looting, but it was just on the ground. Yeah.
00:33:56
Speaker 2: Just picked that up.
00:33:57
Speaker 1: What were they protesting about? Well, actually, I've intentionally stayed away because with the Steelers.
00:34:03
Speaker 3: Going there, I'm going to get Aaron Rodgers to go and get his opinion. I feel like he's going to give me a good breakdown of the tension.
00:34:08
Speaker 1: You know, if you want to send somebody that will calm the place down. That's what I mean. I'm going to wait and hear what he has to say about it because he will have opinions, and he will probably share them on McAfee's show when he gets back.
00:34:20
Speaker 2: So I'm just waiting for him.
00:34:22
Speaker 1: There was a great video of somebody and then like 15 of the guys– Like posed and somebody goes, this is like when someone in the secondary.
00:34:30
Speaker 2: Oh, I saw that.
00:34:31
Speaker 1: Because there was a little bit of that. Well, I mean, it feels like a really good time to send them Aaron Rodgers. Tyler Shuck was really good last week. I think it's I think Aaron Rodgers doesn't believe in time zones or jet travel. I'm going to take the Saints to pull off the upset. I like the Saints here, too. I Moneyline bet them last week. I feel like they've got more wins. They should have more wins than their record shows. So I believed them, even though it was against New York a week ago. I'm going to trust them again against the Steelers to go back to bad games here.
00:35:05
Speaker 2: I'll take the Steelers.
00:35:07
Speaker 1: By the way, what are our records in this so far? You can take last week.
00:35:10
Speaker 2: Matt, you lead at 48-30-1.
00:35:11
Speaker 1: Drew is 45-33-1.
00:35:16
Speaker 2: And I am 44, 34 and one. So I've clawed back a little bit here. But Matt has a three game lead under.
00:35:21
Speaker 1: I think objectively speaking on every show I do, I know the least about the topics. And yet I'm always the best at picking games. Why do you think that is? Like I did. I've done NFL shows for eight years on ESPN. Know nothing about the NFL. Actually, not totally true. I mean, we're on NFL. But, like, I don't know as much as Dan Orlovsky. And I beat him by, like, 20 games when we did this. Do you think that when it comes to NFL, you should just know less when you pick games?
00:35:52
Speaker 2: I'm being dead serious. Maybe there's a sense to that. Or, like, the more you know, you realize how little you know.
00:36:00
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm better at picking games in the NFL than I am in college football and basketball, which I know a lot more about.
00:36:06
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. This kind of.
00:36:08
Speaker 3: Leads into a dumb idea I have that's not exact with picking games. But everyone says for an entire season, betting the NFL is the hardest. Like you're almost certainly going to have a losing record. Tell me what would be wrong with if I made a pick every game but bet the other team. Like bet against myself every single game. If I'm always going to have a losing record with my opinion, why don't I do the exact opposite? I know that sounds dumb, but tell me why that's wrong.
00:36:35
Speaker 1: I understand the logic. If you were to promise me that my picks are always going to be on the losing side, then I'll just pick the other side. But, I mean, if Vegas always wins, why would I side with me that's always wrong? Why wouldn't I just pick against myself every week? Yeah, well, you're not thinking about the juice, though. I just mean in general. They say you can't pick NFL games. Vegas is always going to win.
00:36:57
Speaker 3: Then why don't I just write down all my picks and do the exact opposite?
00:37:01
Speaker 1: I think the NFL is the sport where if you did it against the spread, you could just like have my mom pick and she might do better. If it's against the spread. Straight up, she wouldn't because there is some. But like against the spread. I mean, against the spread, you might as well just throw your shoe and pick who's going.
00:37:19
Speaker 2: To get it. I think they even say any given Sunday because they do. It could happen. Bengals, Ravens.
00:37:25
Speaker 1: This is one of those games where I feel like these teams play every few days against each other. The NFC North, everyone's good. I don't know that the Ravens. Both these teams, I guess they could both take a loss. But this would be. You know, for an initially tie, at least for first, who you got? In Baltimore, Baltimore is a one and a half point favorite, which means Vegas thinks the Bengals are better.
00:37:48
Speaker 3: Do we have a Lamar or anything yet? I'm probably going to pick Bengals anyway, but I'm looking at my news guy.
00:37:53
Speaker 2: I don't think there's been a Lamar. No, I haven't seen that.
00:37:55
Speaker 1: I'm still going to go Bengals, and the uncertainty there adds to it. But you're right about the division. They're 4-2, 4-2, 4-2, 3-2, because the Bengals had a bye week. Every team has two losses. And Higgins is back healthy. I'm going to take the Bengals.
00:38:08
Speaker 2: What about you? Didn't the Ravens just lose to the Browns?
00:38:11
Speaker 1: They did.
00:38:11
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I'll take the Bengals.
00:38:12
Speaker 1: What about the Browns, then? Going to Nashville to play your Tennessee Titans, fresh off a victory, but also a dispute. The Browns have a chance to go 5-2. Do they do it? Before the season, I thought this would have been for the No.
00:38:31
Speaker 2: 1 draft pick.
00:38:33
Speaker 1: But now, I'm telling you, the Titans are going to stack wins. Stack them. Cleveland's a one-and-a-half.
00:38:39
Speaker 3: We're getting win number two here. I love what the Browns are doing. Browns are leading the AFC North, tied with everyone else. Very impressive. But they've run into a buzzsaw in Nashville now.
00:38:50
Speaker 1: We got our gunplay out of the way. We beat our rival, the Colts. Cam Ward threw for 100 yards last week. We have momentum. Preach.
00:38:58
Speaker 2: Titans win this one. All right. As a one and a half home dog.
00:39:01
Speaker 1: Billy.
00:39:01
Speaker 2: We got our gun play out of the way. I love the pick. I love the passion. But Deshaun Watson has four wins and four fourth quarter comebacks. I think I have to take Cleveland.
00:39:14
Speaker 1: This is tough because I feel like the Browns is going to catch up to him at some point. But maybe that point isn't today. I'm going to take the Browns. But I think the Titans are not a terrible choice here. It's a close game. Colts and Vikings. Colts fired Ballard. What's the owner's name? I like Harley. Ursae? Yeah, I like that she has a clipboard. I'm a big fan of clipboard. And stands toes on the sideline. I like people who still use technology that is unnecessary to use. Like me with this paper calendar, clipboard. She still has a pencil.
00:39:54
Speaker 2: And a pager.
00:39:56
Speaker 1: I don't know if she has a pager. In Minnesota, Minnesota's a six and a half point favorite, Billy. Who you got?
00:40:03
Speaker 2: I will go Minnesota. It seems like things are falling apart over there in Indianapolis. They may even go to Anthony Richardson one day. Give me Minnesota to keep this improbable winning streak going.
00:40:13
Speaker 1: Minnesota is the worst 6-0 team in the history of sports, and I'm even including baseball. I think they're awful, but I do think they're going to win. So give me the Vikings.
00:40:28
Speaker 3: If the Colts have done anything. I mean, Jonathan Taylor has been a disappointment. He just lost the Titans.
00:40:34
Speaker 2: I'm with you.
00:40:35
Speaker 1: The Vikings have to lose eventually.
00:40:37
Speaker 2: They're home. They're at home.
00:40:39
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Minnesota, even though I don't believe in them. All right. The
Dolphins playing the Jets in an intense AFC East matchup. This is one of the only games this year the Dolphins have a chance to win.
00:40:54
Speaker 2: It's in New York.
00:40:55
Speaker 1: Jets are a four and a half point favorite. I'm going to take the Jets. I think the Jets have good players. I just think they have a bad coach. And I think he makes bad decisions. But I'm going to take the Jets to win this game.
00:41:10
Speaker 2: What about you?
00:41:11
Speaker 3: I'm taking the Jets, too. They just lost to the Pats, but they kept it somewhat respectable. This is a Jets team that can at least tie its shoes and get an interception. I can't say much positive about Miami right now.
00:41:23
Speaker 2: They were right there with New England last week, so I will take the Jets as well.
00:41:27
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have this little— 0 for 3 in the red zone last week. Really? If you play one of those, maybe you're in the game. I have this little rash on my thumb, and I just want to say to people, if you ever get a rash somewhere, don't Google rash. It's gross. People have gross rashes.
00:41:46
Speaker 2: And they felt the need to upload them to the Internet.
00:41:49
Speaker 1: Who does that? Who's like, this is disgusting. Let me put this on the Internet. But the good thing about doing it is it makes my little two bump rash feel like nothing. Makes you feel better. Because it does itch. And so you think, rash. Then you look at this and I'm like, well, I'm not this person.
00:42:09
Speaker 2: Isn't that what the internet's for, is to confirm what's wrong with you at times?
00:42:12
Speaker 1: I don't like to Google when I don't know when something's wrong with me. Because it ends up, they end up making you think you got something terrible. Oh, yeah. You know? Like, they end up making you go, oh, no. They'll find a way to make you think you're dying, no matter what you're searching. And they're like, consult your physician immediately. Like, why are you here with me? Run.
00:42:29
Speaker 2: But like, I.
00:42:31
Speaker 1: Oh, you have snot? Consult your physician immediately. Call your loved ones. Tell them you love them. So I don't think that's good. And then I don't like, my mom's the worst about it. Because if I say I have any ailment to my mom, she Googles it and she was like, this could be Peroni's disease. I don't know what that is, but.
00:42:54
Speaker 2: I go through that too.
00:42:54
Speaker 1: I'll tell my mom something. I just hear them do ads for it on television.
00:42:57
Speaker 3: I'll tell my mom something with the caveat of do not look this up because I'm fine and you will call me back and we'll have found the worst case scenario on the internet.
00:43:03
Speaker 1: And like once every 20 times, she'll be right with the Google diagnosis, which she'll go see. Justifies the other 19. And I told you. And then you feel bad. Okay, Giants at the Texans. C.J. Stroud is balling out. So much so that the Texans are a 10-point favorite. And J.J. McCarthy will get the start for the Giants. That was just announced today.
00:43:43
Speaker 3: Stroud finally had the big game they wanted from him last week.
00:43:46
Speaker 1: Put up huge numbers. 300 yards and three touchdowns, I think, against Jacksonville. I think that's given him the confidence. to go finish the year the way they need that offense to finish it. They went out and got Marvin Harrison Jr., had three catches last week, but, I mean, he had just gotten there. So maybe that offense has some life because we know what that defense is.
00:44:05
Speaker 2: I'm going with Houston.
00:44:06
Speaker 1: Ten points, though? Doesn't that feel high? I know we're not going against the spread, but I'm just saying, like, isn't that crazy high?
00:44:13
Speaker 2: That's high.
00:44:13
Speaker 1: I will very, very, very rarely bet an NFL spread over a touchdown, period. Yeah, I'm with you.
00:44:21
Speaker 2: J.J. McCarthy didn't look terrible in those final few minutes of the last game.
00:44:25
Speaker 1: The game was over.
00:44:26
Speaker 2: And I have to stay consistent on my opinion of nine. So give me the Texans.
00:44:31
Speaker 1: Of nine?
00:44:33
Speaker 2: Yes, that is his alter ego that he calls himself when he plays football.
00:44:36
Speaker 1: Oh, OK. Do you trust him facing Houston's pass rush? No. All right. CJ Stroud has been really, really good. I don't know if people realize it because they're 2-4, but he's been really good. And I did this on Matt Myron yesterday. If you go look at the Texans' schedule, they could literally only lose one more game. I mean, they can lose more, but they have a schedule that they can easily make a big run. They were completely front-loaded. So even though they're 2-4... Dare I say watch out for the Texans? Could you say they control their own destiny in the AFC South?
00:45:12
Speaker 3: I don't think that's true. Actually, everyone in the AFC South, I think, controls their own destiny right now.
00:45:18
Speaker 1: Not the Titans. Yeah, because we still have to play the whole division. So if we win all those, we would win the division. Yeah, maybe. Oh, I've done the math. We control our own destiny. We've done the math. We still play Jacksonville twice.
00:45:29
Speaker 2: Okay. So, yeah, it's doable. Doable.
00:45:33
Speaker 3: But same for Houston. Stroud even in, was it the Bills week one? He almost let him down the field and won that game, but he turned it over in the red zone. So he's been knocking on the door. I think he's finally stepped through it.
00:45:43
Speaker 1: 49ers at the Falcons. I guess, what, Bill, you're going to, no. Whose turn is it? It's yours.
00:45:50
Speaker 2: I can start.
00:45:51
Speaker 1: 49ers and Falcons.
00:45:52
Speaker 2: 49ers are the best team in football. Not the Chiefs. It's the San Francisco 49ers. The only team that can beat them is themselves. If they don't stay healthy, give me the 49ers.
00:46:03
Speaker 1: I think they are probably the
best team, but I don't think it's by a wide margin. I would put the Chiefs right there with them. But they're going to win this game in Atlanta. I'm going to take the 49ers. I am too, and the Seahawks and Rams have been playing around a little bit. The 49ers are going to run away with this division if the 49ers don't start losing some games. Those teams can't start stacking some wins. I don't think anyone had the 49ers.
00:46:27
Speaker 2: What is it?
00:46:28
Speaker 1: Are they up three games on those two teams each right now? I think. Yes. So yes, I like the 49ers here and they might end up taking that division before we even get to the end of the year. Bucks are at the Panthers. Bucks are on a little, well, they're not on run. They ended up losing last week, but they were competitive last week. Panthers are on a three and a half point favorite NFC South. Chris Myers is just happy because I'm sure he's on this game. This feels like the kind of game the Bucs win. Oh, you're going against our boy Bryce Young. NFC South, you always go with the team that has no chance of winning when they play each other. Give me the Bucs. Last week, Billy and I were talking about Bryce Young is riding the cover zero bump at the Super Bowl that all these players have. They're loving him. They're 3-2. Yeah, putting up big numbers. So I'm going with Carolina at home. Sorry, Billy, against your Bucs.
00:47:15
Speaker 2: No, I don't blame you. Tampa's awful. I mean, they led 16-3 in the fourth quarter and blew it versus Aaron Rodgers. Bryce Young knows what he's going up against. I'll take Carolina. How's Baker?
00:47:25
Speaker 1: Is he alive? Is it Jalen Daniels? Is this what we're stuck with?
00:47:28
Speaker 2: There's rumblings that he's either back this week or next.
00:47:30
Speaker 1: They had a huge statue.
00:47:32
Speaker 2: For him in Oklahoma.
00:47:33
Speaker 1: It blew me away. There's a statue?
00:47:36
Speaker 3: It's huge. There's a Kyler Murray statue, too. It is bigger than anything in the National Mall in D.C.
00:47:41
Speaker 1: There's a statue of everyone in Oklahoma. They got a statue of everybody who's even visited that state. What's the statue game in Oklahoma?
00:47:48
Speaker 2: What's the statue line like?
00:47:50
Speaker 1: And they're good.
00:47:51
Speaker 3: You know these where they pull off D. Wade and Brady and it doesn't look like them? These were some good statues in Oklahoma. That's the worst thing I've ever been to for ingress and.
00:47:58
Speaker 1: Egress, just for the record. Yeah, I think that was a unanimous. Terrible ingress and egress.
00:48:04
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
00:48:05
Speaker 1: Do you know what ingress and egress are?
00:48:07
Speaker 2: No.
00:48:07
Speaker 1: Getting in and out.
00:48:09
Speaker 2: Oh. We went.
00:48:10
Speaker 1: I wanted to be an early... You never heard that phrase?
00:48:12
Speaker 2: Never, no.
00:48:14
Speaker 1: Because you need a word. No, it's in the... You need a word for getting in and out. You don't want to say... You sound bad if you're like, how's the getting in and out situation? So they created ingress and egress. And the ingress and egress... The egress isn't that bad, but the ingress is awful. Because the ticket line was crazy. But more frustratingly is... There are like 80 rows in each section, like 40 seats in each row, and they don't have multiple entry points. So you have to wait in line just to even walk into your section. Like a long line, too. Worst bathroom lines of any event I've been to of anything. Concerts, anything. I missed like the whole third quarter just trying to use the bathroom. And I guess it's just because it's old and they've probably expanded it, but then not expanded the infrastructure or the ingress and egress.
00:49:13
Speaker 2: Well, get ready for a little bit of that as we go to Chicago for the Bears Bucks.
00:49:17
Speaker 1: I've been there. It's not as bad.
00:49:19
Speaker 2: Don't be insulting their egress. I've heard the bathrooms are.
00:49:22
Speaker 1: Right up there. That's why you go before you go. Bro. at the Cardinals, Drew. Broncos a four and a half point. Even though the Cardinals are coming off a shocking win and the Broncos, I still don't think are that good of a football team.
00:49:39
Speaker 2: They keep winning. I'll take Denver here. I think Denver is that good of a football team. I mean, their schedule at the first game is pretty tough.
00:49:46
Speaker 1: Bo Nix has not played well. Bo Nix hasn't played well, though.
00:49:49
Speaker 2: Well, despite that, they're 4-2, right? So, I mean, their roster is pretty good. I'll go Denver.
00:49:53
Speaker 1: They beat Seattle with like 150 yards offense, but I'm going to take them in this one. That is true. I'm going to take Denver as well. Billy Packers are at the Lions. Important game. I mean, everybody's got a good record in the NFC North, too. Everybody's got a winning record. Detroit's a three-point favorite.
00:50:12
Speaker 2: I might be inclined to take the over in this game. Jordan Love was letting it fly in the Sunday night game. But I think the home field advantage will be the edge here. I will take Detroit.
00:50:23
Speaker 1: Like people in the early 2000s did about Dr. Dre. People have forgotten about the Lions.
00:50:31
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:50:33
Speaker 1: And I'm going to take the Lions to beat the Packers in Detroit.
00:50:42
Speaker 3: I think Jordan Love and our close friend Christian Watson, Matthew Golden, and that offense are going to go off on Detroit's defense. Packers got a slow start offensively, but they've started to look good lately, airing it out. And Lions have been letting everybody score on them. This has shootout.
00:50:59
Speaker 1: The makings of a shootout, and I think the Packers will end up being the team that wins. But there will be a lot of points regardless in this. The Rams are playing the Raiders. Rams are only a four-and-a-half point favorite. I don't know
what's happened with the Rams. If they're going to salvage their season, they cannot lose this game. Raiders, though, with a very hard schedule, have been very competitive this year. And they're three and three. I've been taking the Rams big and they've been losing every game. But I'll take them big again and take the Rams. I'm doing it.
00:51:34
Speaker 2: You're doing it?
00:51:35
Speaker 3: I'm calling the Rams frauds. They've had so many chances already to turn around, and they just keep looking bad.
00:51:40
Speaker 1: Devontae Adams out. Devontae Adams out. I'm going Raiders here. Each week, Australia, well, they tried to outsmart travel. Then the next week, well, this excuse. Then the next week, this excuse. You've lost four games. I'm tired of hearing excuses. You're about to lose a fifth.
00:51:54
Speaker 2: All right.
00:51:54
Speaker 1: That's a strong pick.
00:51:55
Speaker 2: What about you? I'll stay on this side. I'll take the Rams one more week before I hit the panic.
00:51:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm done after this week. Chiefs are at the Seahawks. Big time game on Sunday night football. Mike, the Chiefs are 5-0, but Seattle's a two and a half point favorite at home. Is this a must win for Seattle sitting there at 3-3? They have a losing record. Yeah, they got a win here.
00:52:20
Speaker 2: Drew, what do you got?
00:52:21
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Chiefs. Hard knocks curse.
00:52:25
Speaker 2: I'm going to take Kansas City as well. Kenneth Walker mad that Zach Charbonnet started over him for three years and he scores three touchdowns in this game. Bet it on draft.
00:52:34
Speaker 1: I didn't think about that. The return of Kenneth Walker. I don't think he's holding a huge Zach Charbonnet grudge.
00:52:41
Speaker 2: I am. Years of fantasy failures.
00:52:45
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Seahawks. I think they got to win. The Chiefs are not.
00:52:51
Speaker 2: They're not.
00:52:51
Speaker 1: Andy Reid coming off a bye. This was not the bye, though. They played last week. So I'm going to take Seattle. I think they got to win. Oh, definitely. And I think they will. It's going to be a great game. This is a great Sunday night football game. Feels like NBC. Did they just like pay someone off? They forget all the best games. I mean, last Sunday should have been better. The Cowboys didn't hold up on their end, but the matchup going into it was exciting. The Cowboys just didn't look good. They get all the best games. I mean, they have to have paid more for it. I don't know, but it's working out. And then Monday night football, Billy, the Cowboys and Eagles. On paper, that would look like a great game, but they're both two and four. Tyler Green versus a struggling Dak Prescott in Philly. Dallas, though, is a four and a half point favorite.
00:53:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Dallas defense is bad, but not bad enough to make Tanner McKee look good.
00:53:40
Speaker 1: Did I say Tyler? Yeah. He went to Stanford. We like Stanford quarterbacks.
00:53:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, where's Davis Mills?
00:53:45
Speaker 1: I think I've called him Tyler on many shows in the last few days.
00:53:49
Speaker 2: It's Tanner. Hi, Tanner. You know Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia?
00:53:52
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that.
00:53:55
Speaker 2: Hi, Tanner. CPS.
00:53:58
Speaker 1: I'm still getting over having called my co-host on Matt Meyer and David Dennis, Dennis, multiple times.
00:54:04
Speaker 2: I was listening live.
00:54:06
Speaker 1: His name is two first names. I know, but now they play it as the intro every time he hosts with me. I also saw a graphic today that you weren't on, but Myron was on.
00:54:16
Speaker 2: What's going on?
00:54:16
Speaker 1: Are they just cutting you from everything? It was like all the radio people, then Myron. Yeah, it didn't have me and Freddie Coleman and Evan Cohen. Okay, so there were a few more absences, too. I asked my boss, I was like, why am I not on here? And they were like, space. I was like, well, that's not a good run. It's not good. What do you mean space? Have a better excuse. That's like we specifically could have put you on here.
00:54:42
Speaker 2: It could have been worse. You could have said your face.
00:54:46
Speaker 1: They could have said, why aren't you on here? Your face. But Myron is on there. Kind of with room next to him also. There is room. There were only three people that didn't make it. And I feel like you could have put our faces in there. I thought there was plenty of room. Could have squeezed right in. Maybe your bellies would have been a little close.
00:55:09
Speaker 2: Together, but it's fine.
00:55:11
Speaker 1: We can go belly to belly. We're friends. I guess it's my turn. I'm going to take the Cowboys as well at home or on the road. Yeah.
00:55:23
Speaker 3: Get right game for the Cowboys, even though it doesn't say much about them. If they win it, it's more about how bad the Eagles are. So, well, thank you all very much.
00:55:30
Speaker 2: We want to make a touchdown parlay. Oh, yeah.
00:55:32
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. So this is week seven. You all didn't do last week. So I guess that means, Billy, you're going to get to pick first.
00:55:39
Speaker 2: OK, well, I will take Kenneth Walker in his revenge game against Seattle.
00:55:44
Speaker 1: Okay, Kenneth Walker. So that is your running back pick.
00:55:48
Speaker 2: What is the score, by the way? It is 3-2-1, Matt, Drew, me.
00:55:53
Speaker 1: Okay. I'm going to go... Who gives up a lot of points?
00:56:03
Speaker 2: The Cowboys.
00:56:04
Speaker 1: Detroit.
00:56:04
Speaker 2: The Colts. Detroit.
00:56:07
Speaker 1: I'm going to take... I'm going to take Christian Watson.
00:56:13
Speaker 2: Good pick. Yes.
00:56:15
Speaker 1: As a wide receiver. So you guys are quarterback.
00:56:17
Speaker 3: I got to go quarterback. I will take Cameron Ward against the Cleveland Browns.
00:56:27
Speaker 1: Oh, really? You're going to go with Cam Ward? If we're going to control our own destiny, he's going to have to start making some plays.
00:56:31
Speaker 2: He's going to have to do it.
00:56:32
Speaker 1: All right. So there you go. That is your Cam Ward, Christian Watson, Kenneth Walker III parlay. Thank you folks very much for listening. And we will see you next week. NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcast. For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.