رونوشت کامل Mission Evolution with Gwilda Wiyaka Interviews - PRESTON DENNETT - UFO Researcher & Author

00:04:53.000 forty people have been on board a UFO. I heard 68 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:56.079 that very early on, and I thought, no way, that's impossible. 69 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:58.199 That would be millions of people. That would mean I 70 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:01.439 would know someone who's had experience, because I think we 71 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:05.240 all know forty people. So I started asking everyone I knew, 72 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:08.000 and I didn't have to ask forty people. I found 73 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:11.480 five people who kind of fit the bill. So I 74 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:14.279 wrote an article about that for the mouf On Journal. 75 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:18.279 Kind of surveying surveilling other major researchers who were calling 76 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:21.920 it an invisible epidemic. And it was in nineteen ninety 77 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:27.240 one that the Roper Organization, a major polling organization, conducted 78 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:31.040 a survey asked the thousands of people with some hidden 79 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:34.199 questions in there, and they found that one in forty 80 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:37.160 people show the or what I'm sorry, one in fifty 81 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:41.920 people show the markers of being a UFO contact tea. 82 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:45.600 So yeah, I think it's a lot more common. It's 83 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:49.399 just that most people don't talk about it, especially if 84 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:52.920 you know you have an onboard experience or you see humanoids. 85 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:55.759 Having interviewed hundreds of people, I always asked them that 86 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:58.319 did you call the police? Did you report it to 87 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:01.680 a uf organization? I'm being generous when I say one 88 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:05.959 in one hundred have reported it officially, Almost nobody reports it. 89 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:11.879 So what's the typical mode of interstellar or interdimensional transportation 90 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:13.399 used by our aliens? 91 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:18.680 Trick question kind of. I think that you know, once 92 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:23.040 they're over our planet, they're basically because many contact he's 93 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:26.000 have been taken on board and told exactly how this works. 94 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:30.079 When they're traveling around our planet, they're basically harnessing our 95 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:35.360 gravitational magnetic field lines, sort of kind of anti gravity. 96 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:38.199 People come up with different variations of this, but it's 97 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:42.360 generally along those lines. But in terms of interstellar distances, 98 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:48.319 almost always people describe interdimensional travel, so they're not traveling 99 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:53.439 faster than light or anything like that. Basically, they are 100 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:56.240 able to slip out of the third dimension into the fourth, 101 00:06:56.279 --> 00:07:03.040 perhaps the fifth, and pop out any desired location in 102 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:05.759 this universe, I guess you would say. But yeah, that's 103 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:08.360 pretty consistent in terms of contact to us who've been 104 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:12.759 able to get information on that. And people sometimes ask me, well, 105 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:15.959 how do you know they're extraterrestrial or are they interdimensional? 106 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:20.319 I would say that, you know, one does not preclude 107 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:25.480 the other, because we ourselves are interdimensional beings. I know, 108 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:28.360 you know that's having done looked at some of your research, 109 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:33.720 but we survive, you know, death, near death experiences. All 110 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:37.199 this points to us being interdimensional beings, and certainly the 111 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:41.519 ets are as well and have a much greater understanding 112 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:46.399 I think, and use of the other dimensions that they 113 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:47.360 know a lot more than we do. 114 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:51.839 I know that NASA has been studying what they call 115 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:55.920 X points, and they're created every place the electromagnetic field 116 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:57.800 of the planet crosses with that of This is. 117 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:01.240 More research to really confirm that, but it's interesting because 118 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:03.839 there are certain areas on our planet which seem to 119 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:08.040 be what we would call UFO hotspots. Sedona Arizona is 120 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:12.399 often cited, but San Louis Valley, Colorado, California has a 121 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:16.040 huge hot spot in the Santa Monica Mountains and other areas. 122 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:22.399 And there's some kind of preliminary research, I would say, 123 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.160 pointing towards the possibility that these are what you're talking about, 124 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:31.160 areas with high magnetic field lines or gravitational magnetic field 125 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:34.720 lines or vore texas. Some have used that word, which 126 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:40.440 is kind of vague and not fully scientifically confirmed, but yeah, 127 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:43.840 there's some research pointing towards that. I think. Lots of 128 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:47.960 questions still surrounding this subject, which is why research is 129 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.000 so important and so hard to move forward with this 130 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:57.240 basically a worldwide government cover up, suppression of UFO information disinformation. 131 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:01.200 It's a bit of a mess trying to this subject forward. 132

00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:06.840 I would think I would think, what are the alien 133 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:10.559 why are they deducting people? What's the point? Ah? 134 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.759 Yeah, a million dollar question. But I think we've started 135 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:16.879 to get a really good handle on this, having interviewed 136 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:21.039 hundreds of people who've had this experience and read every 137 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:24.480 book I can get my hands on. What I've found 138 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:27.840 out is pretty much been confirmed by other major researchers, 139 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:32.200 specifically those who concentrate or focus on people who are 140 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:34.960 being taken on board, because of course there's many different 141 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:38.159 aspects of research you can go into, but we now 142 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:41.600 know enough to basically predict what's going to happen to 143 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:44.240 a person when they're taken on board, and I think 144 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:47.919 it really speaks to why this is happening to people. 145 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.879 One thing we do know is it's generational, so they 146 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:56.080 seem to be following certain family lines and perhaps have 147 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:59.559 an interest in their genetics for some reason. So there 148 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:02.639 does seem to be a real strong interest in that area, 149 00:10:02.919 --> 00:10:05.440 which is one of the reasons I think people are 150 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.519 being taken on board. I can't say that healing physical 151 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:13.639 healing is a big part of the et agenda. This 152 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:18.200 is not speculation. This is demonstrably proven through the first 153 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:23.360 hand accounts of people being physically examined and often healed, 154 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:27.679 and a lot of research into this. Edith Fiori one 155 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:30.200 of the first persons with a PhD to write about 156 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:34.320 this subject, so that fully half of her clients had 157 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:38.519 experienced healings, which is what Ray Hernandez found in his 158 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:42.679 free study. Muffon did a study mutual UFO network and 159 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:46.000 found closer to ten or twenty percent, but I can 160 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:49.240 tell you that pretty much every major researcher out there 161 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:54.039 has multiple cases of this kind. John Mack, David Jacobs, 162 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:58.919 Bud Hopkins, Jacques Balay, Brad Stagger, Timothy Beckley, but Barbara Lamb, 163 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:02.840 Yvonne Smith, had could go on. I've covered many cases myself, 164 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:05.440 and I ended up writing a book documenting some three 165 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:09.559 hundred cases of this. So that's absolutely one of their agendas. 166 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:13.039 But I'd say there's like five major agendas that they have. 167 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:19.440 Another is just to basically provide information for people, because 168 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:22.399 when people have an onboard experience and they're not in 169 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.080 complete terror or panic, and they are, they essentially have 170 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:29.480 missing time and they don't really recall a whole lot. 171 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:33.600 But those who don't react with fear are typically given 172 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.279 a tour of the craft and they'll take you down 173 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:38.840 to the engine room and they'll explain exactly how these 174 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:42.080 craft are powered, or we'll take you up to the 175 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:44.759 control room and say how this is how we steer. 176 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:47.799 The craft actually sits you in the pilot's seat, and 177 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:54.080 it's generally psychically when anyone gets any communication from ets 178 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:56.960 beyond don't be afraid. We're not here to hurt you. 179 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:03.320 You're fine, You'll be home soon. They give messages and 180 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.480 warnings that fall into just a few categories, and it's 181 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:10.240 very consistent and has been since the modern age of UFOs. 182 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:16.480 It's warnings about nuclear proliferation, warnings about warrant aggression, greeding, corruption, pollution, 183 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:20.519 and the destruction of the environment. So that's clearly one 184 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:24.000 of their major concerns is how we treat ourselves, each 185 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:30.799 other and this planet. Another one more I think that's 186 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.399 very important to put forth is that they seem to 187 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:38.879 be very interested in elevating our psychic abilities, because almost 188 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:45.039 without exception, contactees have an enormous amount of psychic abilities, 189 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.919 particularly following their encounter, but sometimes before. It's kind of 190 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:53.080 a two way street there, but healing, hands on healing, 191 00:12:53.639 --> 00:13:00.600 astral projection, mediumship, clairvoyance, precognition, all of this man fests 192 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:04.720 very strongly following an experience. So it's pretty clear to 193 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:06.440 me that's a factor here. 194 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:09.759 It's enough to make you wonder if we weren't seated 195 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:11.840 here and they're following up when you when they follow 196 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:13.360 the genetic line. 197 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:16.320 Yeah, there might be some evidence of

that, because we 198 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:21.080 do know, just based on historical records, that this phenomena, 199 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:23.759 for lack of a better word, does go back to 200 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:27.960 at least prehistory and probably before that, because we have 201 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:32.960 you know, stone carvings and iroglyphs and writings of ancient 202 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:36.080 India and so forth. They've been around forever and many 203 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:39.120 contactees have been told that that was what lived on. 204 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:42.759 It's time. We're going to have to take a station break, Preston. 205 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:45.120 I will return very shortly, so don't you go away. 206 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:51.000 This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution dot org. Are all 207 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:56.440 aliens created equal? With? This is our discussing alien abductions? 208 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:01.600 Is UFO researcher Preston dannit precedent? How many different kinds 209 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:03.759 of aliens are visiting the Earth. 210 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:08.639 Seems like it's almost endless. It's very interesting to me 211 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:10.399 because this is one of the things that kind of 212 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:13.559 kept me out of UFO research. It sounded very star 213 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:18.279 treky to me, with almost all reports being of what 214 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:23.039 we would call humanoids, you know, basically bipedal beings, arms, legs, head, 215 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:27.679 But that's what we're kind of stuck with. That's what 216 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:31.200 the reports are showing us. Almost all of them are 217 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:37.039 humanoid in form. There are some definite major types grays 218 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:41.000 really dominate. In my own research, it's over fifty percent. 219 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:44.360 People will describe some variation of the short little beings 220 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:49.919 with large heads and large dark eyes, bald, grayish skin. 221 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:54.080 But even there there's a huge variation because someone will say, oh, 222 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:59.320 there were chalk white, gray, tan, yellowish blue. You get 223 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:02.519 all these different and skin complexions. And of course there's 224 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:05.360 human looking ets, and I'd say that's the second most 225 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:09.519 common category. People that look very much like us, though 226 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:13.279 usually described as being a little taller perhaps six feet, 227 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:21.080 very muscular, often very good looking or beautiful. Praying mantis 228 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:27.399 is another type. Tall whites, little short blue beings. Variation 229 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:31.440 goes on from there, strange humanoids of all kinds. And 230 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:34.759 it's so interesting to me because coming from a contact 231 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:38.519 d angle, some contactees have asked about this, and a 232 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:41.799 message they often get is that we all share a 233 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:46.120 common ancestry. ETS will say something like we I am 234 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:49.120 you you rus, we are one. This sort of thing, 235 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:52.480 and from some contactees who are what I would call 236 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:56.240 fully conscious contactees, and they've overcome the fear, they don't 237 00:15:56.279 --> 00:16:01.279 need hypnosis. They have long interactive conversations. I met one 238 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:04.360 lady Dolly Saffron, wrote a book about her. She dug 239 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:08.480 into this particular question deeply and was told basically that 240 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:13.279 we all share the essentially the same genetics. We're all 241 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:18.080 basically human, but what we're seeing is just ancestry differences 242 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:21.720 and you know, caused by the environment we live in, 243 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:25.919 but all essentially the same species, which would make sense 244 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:30.679 considering you know, people report grays hybridizing with humans. You'd 245 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.279 have to be the same species to be able to 246 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:36.480 do that. But yeah, that's a message a lot of 247 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:40.279 contactes get. So I'm leaning towards that our relationship with 248 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:46.200 them is far closer than we perhaps previously believed, particularly 249 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:48.440 because some do look just like us. 250 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:52.480 That wouldn't kind of explain the reason that they might 251 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:55.559 be fascinated in us, And it kind of lends itself 252 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:59.440 towards the we wereceeded here to start out with, doesn't it? It? 253 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:03.200 Sued uh, And it's interesting because the idea that we 254 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:06.599 evolved on this planet or started on this planet is 255 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:10.200 certainly the mainstream paradigm that we're being taught in schools, 256 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:13.640 but that's not what the contact these are being told 257 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:19.400 humanity is throughout the universe, And as I mentioned earlier, 258 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:22.480 a number of contactes say that we actually lived on 259 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:26.200 Mars and we're brought to Earth and are lifted off 260 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:33.599 periodically when there are natural cycles of existential crises with 261 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:38.839 pole tilts and things like this, So which there's some 262 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:45.400 good evidence for Michael Kremo, anthropologist. His book

Forbidden Archaeology 263 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:49.119 really lays it out in black and white that there 264 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:52.480 have been previous iterations of advanced societies on our planet. 265 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:54.480 So very interesting. 266 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:57.319 So if we're looking for the missing link, we're going 267 00:17:57.400 --> 00:17:58.440 to be looking a long time. 268 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:02.960 I think that's what I think is so interesting about 269 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:05.920 this subject is it has so much to teach us. 270 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:10.480 It offers such a great opportunity to expand our knowledge. 271 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:12.960 How do you know that stories of abductions are not 272 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:16.759 hypnotically retrieved fantasies or false memories. 273 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:21.160 I'm glad you asked that question, because there's a lot 274 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:24.519 of I think, misconceptions about it, a lot of confusion. 275 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:28.839 In my own research, I've stayed away from hypnosis in 276 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:30.920 my books, and I've written a number of them about 277 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:33.480 this particular subject. I would say about ten to twenty 278 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:37.039 percent of people have used hypnosis, and every single one 279 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:41.279 of their cases stands up without it. So any claims 280 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:46.359 that this can be explained by false memory syndrome as 281 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:50.880 it's called does not hold water. Now, hypnosis has been 282 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:57.039 proven repeatedly to be unreliable in terms of getting memories 283 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:01.799 back if used in correct because, on the other hand, 284 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:06.960 are numerous studies that show that it's absolutely very useful 285 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:12.880 to retrieve information accurately. And I can say with absolute 286 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:16.480 confidence that those who recall their memories through the use 287 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:21.160 of hypnotic regression, the details that they recall match precisely 288 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:27.000 what those who have fully conscious experiences recall. So there's 289 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:30.519 no major difference between the two, which I think really 290 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:35.400 argues for the fact that this does work when used correctly. 291 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:40.440 So I absolutely do support hypnosis, but I generally don't 292 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:46.799 recommend it unless a person has debilitating anxiety perhaps or 293 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:49.519 a very clear cutcase of missing time that they can 294 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:53.839 point to, because there are some hidden dangers there. And 295 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:56.920 people I've talked to who have gone through hypnosis some 296 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:01.279 have regretted it because they felt like the memory they're 297 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:04.640 hypnotically recalled, they're a little bit different, whereas a number 298 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:07.599 of people at some point, and this can happen, you know, 299 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:11.200 days after, weeks after or even years, we'll get some 300 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:14.200 sort of cueue or trigger. They'll see the cover of 301 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:17.400 Whitley Strieber's book Communion and tell you how many people 302 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:20.039 have told me like, oh, that brought back my memories 303 00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:24.880 of my experiences. So that can happen. You can recall 304 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:28.960 through dreams and meditation as well. I always recommend that 305 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:33.519 first before a person use hypnosis. But yeah, it works absolutely. 306 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:37.039 I think is a reliable tool done right. 307 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:46.279 Do you think that people or is there evidence that 308 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:51.680 that the memories are blocked by the ETS or is 309 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:57.160 it possibly just traumatic to the person so they block it. 310 00:20:58.200 --> 00:20:59.920 Yeah. For a very long time when I got in 311 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:04.119 UFO research, I was blaming the etes, like it's them 312 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:06.839 doing it. But if you look into the research of 313 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:11.920 trauma when someone has it, you'll see it. Amnesia or 314 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:18.079 memory problems pops up pretty consistently. Whether it's childhood abuse 315 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:22.440 or war trauma victims, or even car accidents. Any type 316 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.559 of trauma assault can be blocked by a person. I 317 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:29.519 think essentially our own human mind doing it to protect 318 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:34.039 the individual. So I've come to realize that it's somewhat 319 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:37.039 of a two way street, because certainly there are cases 320 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:39.519 where ETS will tell people you're not going to remember this, 321 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:41.799 or you will remember it as a dream, or you 322 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:44.960 will remember it when it's time. So I think in 323 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:48.480 some cases what's really going on here is if a 324 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.559 person is having a very difficult time processing the experience, 325 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:57.200 they will facilitate you not remembering, because I don't think 326 00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:01.079 that's their purpose to scare people. Or the first thing 327 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:04.400 they say is have no fear, you will not be hurt. 328 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:09.079 But we have such a strong fear reaction, totally understandable, 329 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:11.759 and I can only imagine what it

must be like 330 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:14.200 to wake up and see grays in your bedroom, or 331 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:18.319 be on a table in an unusual place and ets 332 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:21.960 are examining you. So I think it's difficult for people 333 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:25.599 to remember. And there's another factor going on here because 334 00:22:25.640 --> 00:22:28.759 when people are brought on board or taken down, it 335 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:31.559 appears that it's done to this kind of interdimensional beam 336 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:35.039 because they're pulled through the walls the ceiling, and it's 337 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:37.839 much like waking up from a dream kind of you 338 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:40.839 know how dreams kind of slip away very easily. It's 339 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:43.240 I think a very similar process. So that would be 340 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:46.799 a fair analogy on how it can be difficult to 341 00:22:46.839 --> 00:22:49.759 remember these experiences. So yeah, I think it's a two 342 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:51.799 way street. Honestly, do you. 343 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:55.839 Suppose that the trauma that abductee's experience is actually the 344 00:22:56.960 --> 00:22:59.039 challenge to their concept of reality? 345 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:04.000 Oh? Yeah, yeah. Almost Without exception, when someone has a 346 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:09.279 contact experience, it changes everything. It is a peak experience 347 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:17.480 in their lives. It affects them on multiple levels physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, psychically. 348 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:26.200 It is an absolute life changing experience. So for some 349 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:29.240 people they're just like, no, I can't deal with this. 350 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:33.519 This is very it's our process for most people, and 351 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:36.759 I absolutely see this pattern. It can be so frightening. 352 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:42.119 In the beginning. People will suffer from PTSD clinical PTSD. 353 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:45.640 They have insomnia, they have to sleep with the lights on, 354 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:50.640 they lock all the doors, they have a fear of intruders. 355 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:53.839 But as they're brought on again, you know, on board, 356 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:56.920 they realize, well, you know, they just healed me or 357 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.440 they told me all this information that will give predictions 358 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:02.960 to people. People start to come around. So in my 359 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.799 own file, it's about seventy to eighty percent say it's 360 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:09.359 kind of a mixed bag in the beginning, but after 361 00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:12.319 they get through the fear, they would not change it 362 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:15.759 for anything, would say about ten percent was like, no, 363 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:17.880 I don't like this experience. I wish it never happened, 364 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:23.279 very traumatic for me, and I don't like it. So yeah, 365 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:25.319 there's kind of a bell curve there of how people 366 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:25.960 process this. 367 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:31.200 We're talking they travel inner dimensionally. Do you suppose that 368 00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:34.400 this means also that they go backwards and forwards in 369 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:36.160 time and as where the predictions come. 370 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:42.440 From, I am not sure. I'm willing to go that far. Absolutely, 371 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:45.759 they do provide predictions over and over again, some of 372 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.519 which have absolutely come true. And they can do things 373 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:53.880 with time that we don't understand, because it's not at 374 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:56.440 all unusual for a person to have an experience, be 375 00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:00.480 pulled from their bedroom or their car while driving our 376 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.400 long experience and come back in only minutes have passed. 377 00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:07.279 I have a number of cases where people one gentleman 378 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:12.200 I interviewed, For example, in the Ozarks, the whole family 379 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:15.200 was there when a UFO showed up. He ran inside 380 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:19.799 to get a telescope or binoculars and came outside and 381 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:23.839 his whole family was frozen. They weren't moving. In fact, 382 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:25.519 his father was holding a bucket of milk and it 383 00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:27.759 was spilling over and he's looking at it like, how 384 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:31.440 can this possibly be? Because he could move and looking 385 00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:33.480 down his driveway, he saw that the UFO that had 386 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:36.039 been in the sky had now landed, and these grays 387 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:39.160 were walking towards him. They had somehow it looked to 388 00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:42.119 him like they had stopped time. Got a lot of 389 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:44.839 cases from of this, And I don't think they're stopping 390 00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:48.279 time at all, because you can't stop throughout the universe. 391 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.440 That makes zero sense. But I think what they're doing, 392 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:54.960 and I'm speculating here a little bit, is that they're 393 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.839 pulling people out of the third dimension, perhaps into the 394 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:04.240 forth where time flows differently, or somehow they're pulling people 395 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:10.519 out of our time stream because they absolutely can do that. 396 00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:12.720 That would go back to the xpoint theory, because that's 397 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:15.960 supposed to be

wormholes through time and space. 398 00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:21.839 Yeah, we have a lot to unpack with this particular aspect, 399 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.440 because it's really remarkable because there are cases of people 400 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:29.039 who essentially said that they were shown past events, not 401 00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:32.000 so much traveling back in time. There's a theory that oh, 402 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:35.319 there us from the future. I dug deep into that 403 00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:38.319 theory and I could not find cases to really support 404 00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:41.359 that that I found to be credible, so I don't 405 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:46.519 think that's what's going on here. But they are very 406 00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:51.799 perceptive psychically. Their psychic abilities are incredibly advanced, So I 407 00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:55.519 think that they have precognition as a tool that we 408 00:26:55.559 --> 00:27:00.160 ourselves have and can be developed. And as I said, 409 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:05.240 many contactees will start experiencing these kinds of psychic abilities. 410 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:09.960 Well, it's about that magic moment. We're going to have 411 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:14.440 to have another station break. Preston and I will be 412 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.400 right back to continue our discussion, So please stay right there. 413 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:23.000 This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission evolution dot org. 414 00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:29.359 Why me, This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution dot org. 415 00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:35.160 With this discussing alien encounters is author Preston Dinnett. Preston, 416 00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:38.680 is there any pattern as to who has a UFO encounter? 417 00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:43.079 Yes? And this took me years to figure out because 418 00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:46.160 I really wondered about that, why some people and why 419 00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:49.440 not others? And of course one pattern that we do 420 00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:51.519 know of and has been long established, is that it 421 00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:58.759 does follow certain family lines. So if your parents, grandparents, aunts, whoever, 422 00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:02.480 have had an encounter, that increases your chances by at 423 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:06.000 least fifty percent, more than fifty percent of people who 424 00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:09.319 have encounters it is in their family, so that's a 425 00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:12.880 very prominent pattern. But I dug into my own files 426 00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:17.440 because looking for patterns, it was absolutely evenly divided between 427 00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:23.720 men and women. There's talk about negative blood type being 428 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:27.960 a factor here, and perhaps a little bit are itch negative. 429 00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:31.799 But in my own files, people of every blood type, 430 00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:37.000 every ethnicity have been contacted. Whether you're Caucasian or Black, 431 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:41.519 or Pacific Islander or Asian, it doesn't matter. Everybody, Latino, 432 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:46.839 you name it, so that's not a factor. People who 433 00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:49.319 are very very young will have these experiences, and people 434 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.640 who are quite elderly as well. It's not age, not education. 435 00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.599 There's a little evidence of geography, because if you live 436 00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:59.960 in a major UFO hotspot, your chances do go up. 437 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.799 But it's strange, and I really struggled with this because 438 00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.799 some people have never they don't have a history of encounters, 439 00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:12.000 and there's a whole category that seems opportunistic where people 440 00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.119 are driving along the highway, a remote highway, generally late 441 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.480 at night, and they have an encounter. So I think 442 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.400 that can be a factor. But what I found was 443 00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.039 really interesting one day when I was interviewing a lady 444 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.240 from Norway because she had had grays come into her 445 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:34.160 room and heal her of a chronic back problem that 446 00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:38.079 was really quite frightening. There were little grays slipping her around, 447 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:40.440 held this instrument on her back, which I've heard described 448 00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:44.440 from many others, and filed out through the through the 449 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.319 wall and took off. She was peppering them with questions. 450 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:53.359 They didn't answer anything. So I started asking all these questions, 451 00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:59.279 and finally I got to her profession and she said, well, 452 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.720 you know, I'm retired graphic artists, but right now and 453 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:04.599 I have been for years, I'm very active in my 454 00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:09.400 community with human rights and animal rights, so please don't 455 00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:13.480 use my name. I'm pretty well known here. And that 456 00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:17.640 rang a bell for me because I just interviewed Reverend 457 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:23.559 Michael Carter, who also fights for human rights and against 458 00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.480 racism and in fact was given an award by the 459 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.319 President for his work on this, and thought, oh gosh, 460 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:34.960 there's John Hunter Gray. He is also a social worker 461 00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:39.039 and he's had encounters and healings as well. So I 462 00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:41.240 started looking through my files. I'm like, oh, my

gosh, 463 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.799 there's a lot of people who are doctors and nurses 464 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:49.920 and environmentalists and musicians and inventors, and people who are 465 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:55.000 doing good work for humanity and some capacity, so that 466 00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:57.519 it's sort of a loose pattern. But the more I 467 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:01.480 look into it, the more it's being confirmed. And people 468 00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:03.960 have actually asked this, like why me, They said, well, 469 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.759 because you are doing work to help others, So I 470 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:08.920 think that is a factor. 471 00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.880 Has the same person been abducted more than once regularly? 472 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.920 That is more the rule than the exception. Some people 473 00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:24.440 generally starts at around age two to six or seven 474 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:30.319 and continues regularly through adolescents and perhaps the teenage years 475 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:34.880 and drops off and then in the twenties, forties, thirties, 476 00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:38.440 and will drop off kind of exponentially as a person 477 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.640 reaches their sixties or so. I would say the average 478 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.359 person will have like four or five major encounters that 479 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.359 they can remember, pretty rare that it's a one off. 480 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:53.839 It does happen, but generally know it's something that people 481 00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.640 deal with their entire lives. It's hard to say because 482 00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.319 some people don't remember it. Whitley Streeber is a good example. 483 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.640 He was in not quite midlife, but close to it. 484 00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:05.319 He was an adult and he realized finally he was 485 00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:09.000 a contactee. It's very easy to go into the denial 486 00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:12.079 and shelve these experiences and not think about them, debunk 487 00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.160 them to yourself, explain them away. So I think there's 488 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.160 a lot of people out there who are contactees and 489 00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:24.079 probably have no idea of it. 490 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:29.240 That's a scary thought. Speaking of which, are there any 491 00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:32.519 hostile ats that we know of that we've been encountered. 492 00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:37.559 With in my own files? I have not really run 493 00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:41.599 into that, And I think this is a really sticky 494 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.319 controversial issue because there are people who have absolute negative 495 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.759 experiences and I've talked to them and I've asked them 496 00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:51.400 exactly what happened to them, and they have a very 497 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.920 strong fear response. Because some people will have the same 498 00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:57.839 exact kind of experience and feel like, well, it wasn't 499 00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:01.599 negative to me. So I think plays a very powerful 500 00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:04.920 role in our perception. Because the worst I hear is 501 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.960 when a person is being physically examined, and it can 502 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.720 be incredibly traumatic, and there are people who describe some 503 00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:16.839 amount of pain with some of these examinations or even operations. 504 00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:20.200 That's pretty rare, and almost always they will relieve the pain. 505 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.839 Not always. I am not convinced ets are coming here 506 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.880 to hurt, harm, cause fear or take over. If they 507 00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:33.960 were truly hostile, I think with their advanced technology and 508 00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:39.960 their advance stabilities, we would already know this. I think 509 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:45.200 there's a thing phenomena called my labs, a military abductions 510 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:49.480 where our own governments are basically pushing a fear campaign 511 00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:53.960 and trying to portray ETS as negative and actually abducting 512 00:33:54.039 --> 00:34:00.519 people with fake abductions, particularly targeting contact ees well, which 513 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.480 makes it very difficult for them, and using mind control 514 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:09.000 techniques and drugs and hypnosis and the whole deal to 515 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.360 fake a really negative encounter. And some of these stories 516 00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.400 get out there and people are saying, well, you know, 517 00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:21.000 my experience was horrific. I believe you, Yes it was. 518 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:24.280 And I've interviewed some of these folks. One guy was 519 00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:26.360 a marine and he flat out said, yeah, they did 520 00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:29.559 all kinds of experiments on me. He was at Camp Pendleton, 521 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.119 a great guy, a very wonderful man, but ultimately decided 522 00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.519 to know, my encounters have been horrific. So he's confused. 523 00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.320 But if is ET doing this or is it something 524 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:44.559 else government agents? No, I don't think ETS are here 525 00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.960 to harm. And I know there are cases out there 526 00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:50.920 which people describe, oh, you know this is what they 527 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:55.840 did to me. You know, it's again very controversial issue. 528 00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.760 This is my take on it, and I'll just close 529 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.960 with this a very in depth look. The totality of 530 00:35:03.039

--> 00:35:11.000 onboard cases objectively shows a very prominent pattern of healing, guiding, teaching, warning, 531 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.440 waking people up to our psychic abilities, which are all 532 00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.760 really good things for humanity. So my take on it 533 00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.519 is that overall it's positive. I think there probably are 534 00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:26.159 some malevolent species out there. Look at us, We're here 535 00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.039 on a planet who don't treat each other that well. 536 00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:32.000 Are they traveling to Earth to take people? I don't 537 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:37.800 know that I would endorse that idea, but yeah, controversial 538 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:38.559 to say the least. 539 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:42.480 What would be the motivation of the government to make 540 00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:44.719 false abductions? 541 00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.920 I wish I could get into their minds too. I 542 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.320 think it's all linked to the cover up. I think 543 00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.880 incidents like Roswell, the Roswell crash in nineteen forty seven, 544 00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:02.320 and many others where we have actually gained this technology, 545 00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:06.800 these craft, these bodies is playing a role here because 546 00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.079 it appears we do have this technology and it is 547 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:13.119 being suppressed and withheld, And I think ultimately it comes 548 00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:18.079 down to greed, power and control. I think there's a 549 00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:21.719 lot more to unpack with this. It's not really my 550 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:25.559 area of expertise, so I focus more on the contact 551 00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:30.159 era or you know subject. But it's a huge problem, 552 00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.920 and I think that's what's behind the cover up and 553 00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:36.280 the idea that our governments want to paint this as 554 00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.400 a negative phenomena, because just think what would happen if 555 00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:43.559 suddenly everyone on Earth developed their psychic abilities, became telepathic. 556 00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:48.320 We would overcome corruption if everyone knew that we didn't 557 00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:51.239 have to live in a society with money enslaving us. 558 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.239 How quickly the world would change. So ultimately, I think 559 00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.719 the ET threat is to these the cabal, the illuminati, 560 00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:03.000 the one per centers, secret government, call them what you want, 561 00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:06.960 and they're doing everything they can to suppress this information 562 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.400 from reaching all humanity. 563 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:12.960 Well, we wouldn't want humanity to become empowered, now, would we. 564 00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:18.920 No, that's their greatest fear, I think, which is why 565 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:20.519 the work you're doing is so important. 566 00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:25.719 Thank you. So, were any witnesses given information by the ets? 567 00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:29.199 You've talked and talked about some of that. Is there 568 00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.199 any other information that they were given that it really 569 00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:33.840 kind of changes the way we look at the world. 570 00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:40.000 Oh yeah, Yeah. Generally speaking, I've interviewed so many people 571 00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.280 and those, as I mentioned earlier, fully conscious contact. These 572 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.760 are feeling far between the hundreds of people I've interviewed, 573 00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:51.400 it's maybe five ten would be generous. But one contacting 574 00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.519 I mentioned earlier, Dolly saffron I wrote a book called Symmetry. 575 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:58.280 She's been given loads of information. That book was doing 576 00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:02.239 really well because I think it's really resonating with people 577 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.760 who are searching for information about, you know, what is 578 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.639 daily life like with the ets. You know, what information 579 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:10.679 do they have. Working on a sequel of that book 580 00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:14.119 where we're really doubling down on the science that she 581 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:19.719 has learned from them, but they've absolutely do communicate and 582 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:23.679 impart tons of information to people on Yeah. 583 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:29.960 So you mentioned also that abductees some tell, some don't. 584 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:34.119 Even if they do, remember, how does that wager out? 585 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:36.760 What percentage do tell and what percentage don't? 586 00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:43.000 Oh gosh, I'd say the vast majority of people don't 587 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:47.039 come forward. Those that do often don't want their name 588 00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:49.719 to be used. Particularly when I started in the late 589 00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:56.599 nineteen eighties, the climate was much more hostile in terms 590 00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:00.159 of ridicule and skepticism and gas lighting, and it's still 591 00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:05.320 a huge problem. And some people, of course have difficulty remembering. 592 00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.440 But the more if you have a simple sighting, I 593 00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:10.760 think a person is much more likely to come forward. 594 00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:14.639 But if you have a humanoid in your bedroom or something, 595 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:18.440 or you believe you're taken on board, people often don't 596 00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:24.000 even tell their own family, their spouse perhaps. And I 597

00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:28.400 can tell you that when I do interview somebody, almost always, 598 00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.119 you know, particularly if it's an extensive encounter, they will 599 00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:34.440 say something along the lines of some caveat. I don't 600 00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.159 do drugs, I've got no history of mental illness in 601 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.679 my family. I've got a good job, I've got a 602 00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:44.400 good education. So these kinds of things turn up again 603 00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:44.880 and again. 604 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.199 So it's the wing net thing, right, don't want to 605 00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.719 be a wing net exactly. 606 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.880 People are very and I understand that they don't want 607 00:39:56.159 --> 00:40:03.199 to be portrayed as a complete idiot, which you know, 608 00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:05.960 I think we're all victims of the UFO cover up, 609 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:09.079 is what it comes down to, the whole all of 610 00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:13.039 humanity has been essentially gas lit by are highest levels 611 00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:16.559 of oron military who are so disingenuous because they know 612 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:18.639 it's real know it's real. 613 00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.480 Are there any connections with the UFOs and the paranormals 614 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.039 such as Bigfoot and ghosts? 615 00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:28.960 Oh? Yes absolutely. This is another thing that took me 616 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:32.199 a while to unpack because right from the beginning I 617 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:35.239 started to get reports from people who are like, oh, well, 618 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:39.679 you know my house is haunted, like huh, or you 619 00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:42.280 know I've had near death experiences. Lots of people contact 620 00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:46.079 to you. I've had near death experiences, certainly not all 621 00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:48.800 of them, but it does turn up. And I got 622 00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:51.679 my first big Foot UFO case, which was very puzzling 623 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.159 to me when a gentleman described having a UFO land 624 00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:58.000 in his backyard and the next day big Foot showed up. 625 00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:00.719 We're we're going to have to take a break on 626 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.840 that note, We're gonna have to take another station break. 627 00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.360 Please stay with us. Is Pearson and I continue to 628 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:11.679 explore UFOs and the mysteries surrounding them. This is Mission 629 00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:17.760 Evolution www dot Mission evolution dot org. What do they 630 00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:22.239 know that we don't? This is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution 631 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:26.320 dot org. We're continuing our discussion with Preston Dinnet his 632 00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:33.480

website Prestondinnitt dot Weebley dot com. Preston, We've been talking 633 00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:38.079 a little bit about the government cover up. How large 634 00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:40.079 is it and how long has it been going on. 635 00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:45.679 It's worldwide and it's been going on for at least 636 00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:50.079 seventy to eighty years. Demonstrably, you know, this is not 637 00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:54.400 speculation by any means, because groups like the Citizens against 638 00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:58.119 UFO Secrecy actually sued the National Security Agency at one 639 00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:03.800 point demanding openness and transparency and received documents back that 640 00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:09.159 were entirely blacked out, I mean every single page. So 641 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:13.800 we know the cover up is absolutely demonstrably true, and 642 00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:17.400 it appears that it is worldwide and at the very 643 00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:21.239 highest levels of government they are cooperating. I think it's 644 00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.639 tricky because you know, apparently some presidents are even out 645 00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:27.239 of the loop or heads of state, and the folks 646 00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:30.239 behind the cover up are hard to pinpoint because it 647 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.599 appears that they are the highest levels of the military 648 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:40.840 military industrial complex, which Eisenhower warned us against. But basically, 649 00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:47.480 intelligence agencies are absolutely behind this. It's no coincidence. I 650 00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:53.679 think that intelligence agencies were formed coinciding exactly with the 651 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.519 modern age of upology in late nineteen forties. Also no 652 00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.920 coincidence that that's the atomic age when suddenly we reach 653 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.079 the ability to destroy our entire planet. So I think 654 00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:09.880 that's when ETS began a very vigorous publicity campaign, because 655 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:12.960 they did go to government world leaders and asked them 656 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:17.079 to stop exploding nuclear weapons, asked them to be truthful 657 00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.159 and transparent, which of course did not happen. So I 658 00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:24.280 think they're conducting a grassroots campaign and showing themselves to 659 00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:27.159 as many people as possible. We have over a million 660 00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.320 We have a worldwide database of over a million documented 661 00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:35.840 cases ETS have disclosed, so they've absolutely done their part. Really, 662 00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:38.719 the rest is up to us. This government cover up 663 00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:41.599 is no joke. It is worldwide for sure. 664 00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:45.440 It being that massive, how do we know it's not 665 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:47.760 other ETS that are behind it. 666 00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:52.320 I don't think there's any evidence of that whatsoever, in 667 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.360 the fact that ETS are working very hard to counter 668 00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.039 the cover up. I wrote a book called Schoolyard UFO Encounters. 669 00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:02.159 May have heard of the Zimbabwe case in nineteen ninety 670 00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.880 six Aerial Elementary school. That's one of over one hundred 671 00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:09.639 cases where UFOs have covered or landed over schools like 672 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:14.000 Westall High School in Melbourne, Australia, Hillsdale College in Michigan, 673 00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:19.679 Prestview Elementary School in Opa Laca, Florida, and many others. 674 00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:25.440 This points to what researchers call UFO displays. It could 675 00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:29.199 point to these major UFO waves that take place every 676 00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:34.639 couple of years over various locations on our planet. I 677 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.840 always wrote another book this is so interesting of UFOs 678 00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:41.679 that were driving theaters. It's another very clever way for 679 00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:45.880 echis to introduce themselves to a fairly large audience. I've 680 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:48.599 got over one hundred cases of this, and I think 681 00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:52.599 there's probably ten times that amount. So I think, yeah, 682 00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:55.800 eachi's have worked very hard to announce your presence. Look 683 00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:59.159 at the Capitol flyover in nineteen fifty two. Essentially they 684 00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:02.199 would have landed, I think on the White House lawn. 685 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.559 It's so cliche. People asked, well, why don't they do that? 686 00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:08.639 They tried. What was our reaction? We scrambled jet fighters 687 00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:11.719 after them and tried to intercept them. So I think, 688 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:14.199 you know, it's our own faults that we haven't had 689 00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:16.400 open official contact. 690 00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:20.920 With all the cell phones and cameras. Are we seeing 691 00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:22.760 an increase in documentation? 692 00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:30.599 Photographic evidence is very tricky. There's absolutely been some wonderful evidence. 693 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:33.440 I would point to the komberg As Turkey footage in 694 00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:36.760 two thousand and six, seven and eight some of the 695 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:40.960 best footage out there. There is an enormous amount of 696 00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:46.079 photographic evidence which I think is unimpeachable these days, however, 697 00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:52.039 with the advent of AI and photoshop and the

hoaxing 698 00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:56.039 is off the charts. You can't trust most of what 699 00:45:56.079 --> 00:46:00.400 you see on social media platforms, and I just but 700 00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.920 it's just true. And I don't even really want to 701 00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:07.159 see these photographs that people are putting forth unless they're 702 00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.599 willing to stand behind it with an affid david, identify 703 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.760 themselves and really go through the whole process of being investigated, 704 00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:21.079 because yes, many people have captured things on cell phones, 705 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:25.199 but it's just not trustworthy this current day and age. 706 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:28.800 So what does the government really know? 707 00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:35.519 From what I understand, they know far more than UFO researchers, 708 00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:41.239 probably more than most contactees. My understanding that this subject 709 00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:43.360 is at the top of their list in terms of 710 00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:47.119 urgency and the amount of money spent towards it. So 711 00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:50.920 I think they know that they are ets, that they 712 00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:54.880 are very advanced, that they do have these craft that 713 00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:58.440 can travel interstellar distances, and are doing their level best 714 00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.559 to reverse engineer it to the point that pretty much 715 00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:06.480 everything we see right now is probably reverse engineered craft. 716 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:11.480 From what I understand, ets are not right here right now, 717 00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:15.559 our magnetic fields have collapse to about sixty percent. They're 718 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:18.239 forty percent down. This is science you can look up. 719 00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:22.000 Don't believe me, do your own research. Don't believe anything 720 00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:26.000 I say. I would really encourage people to absolutely do 721 00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:30.599 your own research, do your due diligence. But our governments 722 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:33.159 have absolutely and I think we know this from the 723 00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.880 huge number of whistleblower accounts and frankly first hand sightings 724 00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:41.960 from people who describe what looks like not genuine ET 725 00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:44.920 craft because they'll have rivets on it in the bolts 726 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:51.280 and or make god awful noises worth flying these craft around, 727 00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:55.920 Make no doubt about it. What people are often seeing 728 00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.519 is our own craft. 729 00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:02.639 You mentioned the electromagnetic field of the Earth, and indeed, 730 00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:05.800 I know that thing's been wandering. They've even had to 731 00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:09.960 cease and desist landing airplanes, you know, the big jetliners 732 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:16.000 with remote means, okay, with autopilot, which used to be safer, 733 00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:20.039 because the electromagnetic field of the Earth is becoming so erratic. 734 00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:25.480 Is this affecting the UFO encounters and their ability to 735 00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:26.920 get here, I guess is the question. 736 00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:29.679 Yeah, and I think this is why we've probably seen, 737 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:34.039 you know, over one hundred cases of UFO crashes. People 738 00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:35.559 always say, well, the first one, man, that's how are 739 00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:38.599 they crashing? Well, accidents happen, and if you're using the 740 00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:42.960 magnetic field lines of our planet, gravitational magnetic field lines 741 00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:48.480 to navigate, and there's that unstable uh, this is probably 742 00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:52.559 why they are crashing. So yeah, this is a huge 743 00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.400 problem and it's had a profound effect I think on 744 00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:58.960 ET contact and why it's really not happening right now. 745 00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:01.760 This is what Dolly's told me. She says they bugged out. 746 00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:05.320 That's interesting because I've had a number of contactees tell 747 00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.159 me like, no, I haven't had an encounter in the 748 00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:12.440 last three years. So I think this is an area 749 00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.039 that we need to do a lot more research into. 750 00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:18.719 But if you follow the UFO databases, you'll see an 751 00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.480 enormous drop off of what I don't call them abductions 752 00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.239 because that is offensive to some of the people I've interviewed. 753 00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:28.719 I call them onboard experiences, which is a much more 754 00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:33.599 neutral term and accurate. I think but yeah, you drop off. 755 00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:35.199 Over the last three years. 756 00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:39.440 Or so, the Sun's been going crazy too unprecedented. Do 757 00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:40.559 you think that plays a part? 758 00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:46.400 I do. From what I understand, we're facing a extinction 759 00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:51.760 level event, a coronal mass ejection which will essentially drop 760 00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.440 down our electric grid to a point where it's irreparable, 761 00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:58.440 and perhaps a micro nova. And I think this is 762 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.320 one of the reasons behind the cover up. Our government 763 00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:05.159 knows this, and they're moving into these dumbs deep underground 764 00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:10.239 military bases, collecting seeds and supplies and food and trying 765 00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:12.519 to survive this and kind of leaving all humanity to 766 00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:17.519 fend for itself. Absolutely, I think this is something everyone 767 00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:22.119 needs to do their research on. Look up gosh, what's 768 00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:27.400 his named, Ben Davidson. He has a website Space Weather Observers. 769 00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:30.639 You can see a lot of this information. He's kind 770 00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:33.519 of the go to guy for this. But yeah, this is, 771 00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:37.000 from what I understand, a natural cycle that our planet 772 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:41.000 goes through, and in prior iterations we're lifted off by ets, 773 00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:44.559 but in prior iterations we are not as violent and 774 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:48.840 warlike and greedy and divisive, and all the troubles that 775 00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:53.719 we're going through, which has really prevented us from evolving 776 00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:56.239 spiritually to the point where we need to be to 777 00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:57.760 have open official contact. 778 00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:01.840 I can see why they would be a little hesitant 779 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.079 to give them the way we are operating right now. 780 00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:08.280 Do you think that the government will ever disclose these things? 781 00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:12.639 I do not, and I hate to say it, because 782 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:15.480 when I got involved in this subject, people were saying, oh, 783 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:18.880 disclosures on the horizon, and it never came. Yes, we've 784 00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:22.599 seen steps recently, but it's very much a dog and 785 00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:26.280 pony show. It's very drip dripped. The cover up is 786 00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:31.599 still in place. They've showed us little fuzzy images when 787 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:34.800 we know they have much better footage. Let's face it, 788 00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:39.239 fighter jets are riddled with cameras pointing in every direction. 789 00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:43.039 Ask any military guy who they will tell you this. 790 00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:46.519 We have gun camera footage that is crisp and clear 791 00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:51.119 and absolutely conclusive, and that's never been released. In nineteen 792 00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:54.400 fifty four, allegedly there was a landing with President Eisenhower 793 00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:58.960 and numerous officials that was filmed. Gordon Cooper was there 794 00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.679 when UFO landed Edwards there far space and developed and 795 00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:07.199 saw the footage that's never been released. There's so much 796 00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.199 that has never been released. I don't think they will 797 00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:14.639 ever willingly be open and truthful and transparent