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Hey everyone, it's Amanda and Amber, and we're lit on lit.
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We're just two friends who love books, foods, and banter, and not always in that order.
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Join us as we sip cocktails, spill the tea, and get lit on all best reads.
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Hey guys, Amber and Amanda here, and we're hoping that you're obsessed with the movie Obsession, just like we are.
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And we couldn't get enough of it.
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Amanda, I don't know if she agrees.
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Were you able to sleep after you watched it?
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Uh, I had to like watch something in between.
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Okay.
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You threw on like lanking.
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Um I just threw on like Love Island, UK.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I actually, me and the hubs saw this one in the theater, like what, February or March, whenever it came out.
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And I don't because we like scary movies, and I don't know what we got involved in.
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Like we both walked out, like, what the hell?
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Yeah.
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It was wild.
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My husband was like, this was such a fresh take.
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He was like, you know, out of all the horror movies or whatever, it's like it's a new little twist to it.
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Like it was like a horror movie, but not a horror movie.
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Because I've kept it.
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I definitely felt like it was a horror movie.
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I was trying to get a man out of.
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I'm like, just watch it.
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It's not really like a scary movie.
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You're that's a lie.
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A murder scary after you're a scary movie.
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I'm like You got her freaking oh man.
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The way she moved.
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Plug it into it.
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So today we're gonna do something a little different because we did watch this.
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I did re-watch it for you.
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And apparently watching the movie wasn't enough because Amanda and I feel like now we need to make it our reading personality.
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I know I do.
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Maybe not my personality, but like what can we read that's gonna have the same feeling?
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Like, if you left that movie and said, I need something disturbed but also fascinating, and you immediately were like, What do I read?
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That even gives me the exact same feeling of being unwell and unhinged.
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We uh we decided to put together a TBR because we know you guys love a TBR because you don't have enough books to read.
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And this is a TBR for us too.
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Like, yeah, this is for when we want to have that feeling of obsession.
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Yeah, we can go to there.
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Are some of these we've already read.
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Some we have read, a lot of them.
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We did the research for you, basically.
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Yeah.
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If this is how you feel, let's put this on the list.
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Yep, I like it.
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So, and I feel like we need to talk about what happens when a movie leaves you with that very specific feeling of okay, now what the hell am I supposed to read?
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I feel like that all the time.
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Yeah.
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So we all know I I mean, I love anything unhinged.
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And this movie, I was like, this is so up my alley.
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I it was like a train wreck, like it's so not up my alley.
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I wouldn't say that I'm obsessed with the movie, but I am obsessed with finding reading material that turns what the hell am I watching into what the hell am I reading?
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, I would maybe say that I'm I'm not obsessed.
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Like, I did rewatch it again, but I was like, okay, like once the novelty of the surprise that it wears off, yeah.
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Like, I mean, it's the thriller mentality.
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Once it kind of wears off, you're like, oh yeah, I got it.
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Yeah.
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So as the girl who watches the screen movies over and over to come October.
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But before we get into that, we're gonna talk about our lid list.
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Samantha, what did you last read?
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So I last read, I was, you know, gearing up for one of our next episodes, which is Cowboy Romances.
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Um, so I read Crossroads by Devony Perry.
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So she's the author of The Sparrow.
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Yes, the Shield of Sparrows.
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Shield of Sparrows and writes at the Rite of the Starling.
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Yeah, so I know that she's like a really good author.
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So I was like, what?
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She has a cowboy romance?
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Let me see what this is all about.
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Did you
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like it?
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I loved it.
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Okay, because remember I told you I wasn't completely sold on the Shield of Sparrows.
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I did like the second one better than the first, but Amber's not a fan of the genre hopper.
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Yeah.
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Like if Stephen King starts to start writing romance, like cowboy romances, I'm gonna be like, say now, look.
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No, I I thought it was done really well.
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It was there was a lot more substance to it than like some of the other cowboy romances you might read.
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All right.
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So I it's one that I will go back and finish the series.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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My last writ, A Shadow in the Ember by Jennifer L.
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Armantrout.
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I finally did it, guys.
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I did the first Flesh and Fire, the accompaniment to the Blood and Ash series.
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I met Amanda's boyfriend Nikto in there.
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I'm not 100%.
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I mean, he's he's good, but he's not Castile.
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So I don't I don't know.
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We'll see.
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I love me.
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There's still three more books that I gotta read.
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So but I am reading them in the suggested order.
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Right.
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All right.
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So in process, I have gone back to finish up the Plated Prisoner series.
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I got through the first four books.
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That fourth book, it was hard to get through.
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Series, there's always one book.
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Yeah, there's always like that one book in a series that's long.
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That's just your like it's kind of like a filler book, you feel like.
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And that was it.
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And so I needed a break, and I've come back, and I'm glad that I did because I actually I'm really enjoying it.
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Um, so this one's Gold by Raven Kennedy, book five.
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There are six, and it is a completed series.
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We've got our MMC, Slade Ravenger, in this one.
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And if you listen to it, the voice is so it's so deep and gravelly and like oh god, I do love that name.
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That makes me think of like Slade Ravinger.
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Very like um 80s of him, like Slade.
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Well, I I keep thinking about like Ravenger, like what are you ravaging?
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It kind of like Slade makes me think of um did you ever watch Pretty Pink with Molly Greenwald?
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Yes, and Zucky, she tells him her love interest name is Blaine.
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Like Blaine, what is he?
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An appliance?
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Slade feels like that.
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Like Slade?
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What?
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So I I would read it just for the name.
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Yeah, well, his his alternate name is King Rot.
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I would not call him that.
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No, that's that's not sexy at all.
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Um, all right, so I'm staying on my bandwagon.
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So now my suggested reading for Miss Armitrout's books is the fourth book in the Blood and Ash series, The War of Two Queens.
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And immediately, chapter one, I was like, there's Castile.
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I just there he is.
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Like he's so obsessed with how like vicious Poppy is, and like I just, I mean, first chapter, the he's been kidnapped.
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The evil queen is like, oh yeah, your wife sent me a little gift, and it's the evil queen's husband's head, and he was like, Oh my god, that's so hot.
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Like, I I love to think that she probably did that herself.
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And he was like, I just love her already.
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I was like, I love you too, Castile.
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So I'm gonna keep rolling with it.
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I don't, they're such big books, too, though.
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I don't know if I'm gonna have to take a little breather because we do have two more, and then there's three more that I've got to read of Flesh of Fire.
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It's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, so we'll we'll see.
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But it's so good.
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She does it so well.
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She really does.
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She's tying them together very well because the Flesh of Fire is what, like a couple hundred years before Poppy and Castile.
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She's tie, and if you read the suggested order, it she does it very well.
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Yeah, I I don't typically like a prequel because I'm like, I already know what's gonna happen.
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But she did it in a way where the prequel, if you read it in the order where it's like the first what, three you read of the Blood and Ash series, and then you read the first Flesh and Fire, it's literally tying in things that you're reading from each other.
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I do not know what's happening.
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Like I know where it ends because we pick up with Castile and Poppy, you know, several hundred years later, but I have no idea how the Neat Toast story ends.
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Yeah.
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And how he's gotten where he's gone.
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So it's it's a good time.
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Yeah.
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Okay, TBR.
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Me and Amanda have the same TBR.
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Oh, yeah, because she's a crazy gal.
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So first reading, Ice Planet Barbarians by Ruby Dixon.
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We have made this our August uh book club, lit on lit between the pages.
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I've worn her down, everyone.
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She wore me down.
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I it okay.
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You you just have to see what's to come.
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Just tune in to see if Amber enjoyed it or not.
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Okay, look.
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This is just so you know, I want to give you a warning here, okay?
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Ice Planet Barbarians is a good time.
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It's an interesting time.
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It's not a long time, but it's a good time.
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Well, it is if you read all of them because there's a lot of them, but it's a novella, right?
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It's short.
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It's it was only like a five or six hour.
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Yeah, it's very short.
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It is not, if you're someone that like serious, takes your books really serious, right?
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Which I feel like this is not for you.
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If you're listening to me in Amanda, you probably don't.
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Um if you don't like smut, this is not for you.
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That's not for you.
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Um, if you are a little more open-minded, like you like some smut, you like some world building, you might have a good time with this, okay?
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What is it, George Trade?
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I'm not here for a long time, I'm here for a good time.
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Yeah.
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That's that's these books.
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They're not here for long, but they're here for a good time.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Here we go.
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So let's get into it.
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Obsession.
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Okay, so before we touch these books, I feel like we probably need to talk about the movie a little bit.
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Yes.
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So people know what the heck why we're recommending these crazy unhinged books.
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Okay.
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Amanda's gonna give you a 30-second premise.
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Okay.
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So Bear is our main character.
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Bear, like the animal bear.
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Yeah.
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And I need you guys to understand that.
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He is in love with his childhood friend Nikki.
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Look, right there, that should tell you.
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Nikki's be crazy.
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Um, problem is that Nikki doesn't feel the same way.
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Solution?
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There should not be a solution.
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Unfortunately, Bear finds one.
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Enter the one wish willow.
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It's a mysterious object that gives Bear exactly what he thinks he wants, Nikki's love.
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Except Nikki doesn't just love him, she becomes obsessed with him.
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And suddenly the fantasy of being desperately wanted starts looking a whole lot more like a nightmare.
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It's I mean, it's uh we've all seen this movie before.
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Like the be careful what you wish for first.
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Yeah.
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I felt like I was like, oh, it's kind of like the before I watched it.
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I'm like, oh, it's kind of like big, you know, where like he goes and he finds the game and he makes his wish, and it's like, oh, be careful what you wish for, kind of thing.
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There's Amanda.
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She's cute.
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Right-ish.
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It's making a horror film.
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Like, so what what did you think of the movie overall?
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I like first time watching it when we saw it in theater, I was like, oh my gosh.
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Like, I did think I agree with your husband, I do think like it's a fresh take on the the whole be careful what you wish for thing.
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Like it had the same kind of mojo to it, but it was done really, really well.
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Yeah.
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Like I was on board with it.
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Yeah.
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I am not a horror.
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Listen, I have not watched a horror movie.
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Amanda's dreading the October month for worse to do movie books where she has to read a drawer.
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The la the last horror movie that I watched was The Exorcism of Emily Rose.
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Okay, I don't know why you picked that one.
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Because uh
that one was scary as that is Amber doesn't do the devil business.
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I don't either.
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And but Donald and I watched it and it freaked us both out.
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That is the moment we started turning the TV on at night to go to bed, too.
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I just like it.
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So it has been a very long time since I watched a horror movie.
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And I will say, like, I didn't hate it.
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Like it was it was done really well.
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I think their suspense was unsafe.
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When they're sitting in the car and you can they specifically have they specifically have the camera.
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Which side note, before you guys listen any further, if you haven't watched obsession, go read it because Manda and I will talk about a couple of spoilers, and if you you'll watch it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If you love a junk scare, go watch it first because we don't want to ruin it.
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So, or you can just fast forward a little bit.
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Yeah.
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They have this, like, it's they have the camera and it's focused on the person, but they're on the right hand of the screen.
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So you see, you see her coming as a horror.
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The whole thing is like covered with the rest of the window, and you're like, what's gonna come through that window?
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You're looking, you're like, there is something about to scare me.
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And when she comes and you see her, it's so fast that you're like, oh my god.
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Like that was one of the jump scares where it happened so fast that even RJ and I in the theater, like, we both were like, oh dude, it but it was it was also like everybody knew it was coming.
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And that's why I love to, yeah, you knew something.
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The suspense was there, so you're wound tight.
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Yeah.
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And then it's like all of a sudden it happens, and you're like, I shouldn't, it shouldn't surprise me, but it still happens so fast.
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And that's why I was so glad that we saw it in the theater.
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Because I mean, when it happens, like the whole theater was like, oh god, like everybody's jumping, like everybody, you're sitting next to you is jumping, and everybody's like, ugh, it was amazing.
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Were you scared though?
00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:02.240
Yeah, I was.
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I don't, I mean, I wasn't really scared, I was just like, oh shit.
00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:12.480
I think it was more that anticipation because they had so many times where you're like, ugh, I know something bad's about to happen.
00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:14.240
There were so many.
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So many.
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So many.
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Okay, so was it more disturbing or more like fun scary?
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It was hella disturbing.
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Oh, yeah, I was gonna say it's disturbing.
00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:29.279
Nothing about what this girl when he wakes up in the middle of the night and she's in the corner.
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Oh my god.
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And he's like, What are you doing?
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She's like, like, did it bother you?
00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.519
Like, okay, she had those moments where she was like super quiet, but then she also yelled.
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Yeah.
00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:39.519
And you were like, What is that?
00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:41.919
Like, which but she when he wakes up and does that, like, what are you doing?
00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:43.039
She's like, go to sleep.
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Yeah, you're like, what the fuck?
00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:47.679
And then he just lays down like the fact that I was like, No.
00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:51.039
No, I told Donald, I was like, I could not sleep, I wouldn't be able to sleep.
00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:55.679
Well, then she started moving weird all of a sudden, and you're like, what the hell?
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And it was a flower.
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So she like weird walks in here, and I'm like, no.
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I think we'll we'll wait to get to our yeah, what we know is the most disturbing, I think is the most disturbing part.
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Okay.
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But we'll do that in a second.
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Okay.
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Um, did his obsession feel believable?
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He bothered me a bit.
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Like, Bear bothered me because, like, something that's weird.
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So when she's moving around like that, and his whole idea of like how to fix it is just like sitting her down, he's like, Okay, no more moving weird, no more watching me sleep, like just to have a discussion with her.
00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:38.080
Like the part where she's like, Have a good day at uh work, and he turns around to leave, and the door is like duct tape shut.
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I'm like, did you think that the just like having a conversation with her was gonna work?
00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:51.279
Right, like obviously there's something a little a little worse here, and then especially when he comes back from work, is she's just literally stood there all day.
00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:57.200
Well, and that it took him as long as it did to go back to the store like to try to
reverse it.
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Like he was really hoping he was just like that this was gonna work out.
00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:06.960
So his obsession was I mean, it was believable, but it was kind of like, dude, what are you doing?
00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:07.919
Yeah.
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I mean, obviously he was scared shitless too.
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So that's the thing too.
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I'm like, you're not in love with her anymore, you're terrified.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like you're like, this dude we move in, this girl we move in, like, she's a robot.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, mm-mm.
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What at what at what point do you think his desire for her would start to become the becoming disturbing?
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I think for that, when like when his idea of it was when all this like the weird stuff started happening.
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Like he sees the duct tape and he's just like, that's okay, I'll just pull it open.
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And the fact that he's eating his pet cat.
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Okay, that was my part.
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That's my that's my most disturbing part.
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I'm just like, at what point in your obsession with her are you like, I think I've messed up here.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's that was the part that I was just like because I think it was like after they, it wasn't very long after they were because they show the little scenes where they're having a great time, whatever.
00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:14.960
But when she does the whole thing with the cat and she's like, I made it as a like a memorial, she digs his cat up and like puts candles around it.
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There's flies everywhere.
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He's like, This is okay.
00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:19.440
He's like, No, you can't do this.
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I'm like, that's when we call the number on the ground.
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Right, like it's okay, we can work through this.
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What?
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Like, no.
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I'm just gonna tell her.
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Because I think that in the beginning, right, leading up to him making this wish, it feels very common, right?
00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.000
Like, yes, this is a very normal.
00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:46.799
I already didn't like Bear because she when she went at the beginning of the movie, when he drives her home, she comes back to the car and she's like, Do you like me?
00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:48.400
She flat out asked him.
00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:48.799
Yeah.
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And he still chickened out and was like, No, we're friends, and like, you're an idiot.
00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:57.039
Like, she literally just asked you, like, that was your perfect opportunity.
00:17:57.119 --> 00:17:57.440
Yeah.
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To just be like, Did you did you know from the beginning that her and that other guy were having sex?
00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:02.880
Oh, yeah.
00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:03.920
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:05.839
I figured too for sure.
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What do we think about the one wish willow?
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I think it's a neat premise, yeah, kind of a thing.
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I don't know if I was on board with the shop owners, like the people working at the shop.
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Yeah.
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Like when he comes back in and he's like, why don't you warn people?
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And they just seem like it's normal that everyone else gets their will.
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And I was like, I don't know.
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Like if somebody's coming.
00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:29.599
Yeah, I mean, it definitely wasn't believable.
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It was weird.
00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.440
Yeah, the the shop people were a little unbelievable on it.
00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:37.680
Would you ever use a uh a one-lish willow after this, huh?
00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:40.480
Yeah, like I don't well look.
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The one guy, he's like, okay, I want a billion dollars.
00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:47.039
And he gets a billion dollars.
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But then also is killed.
00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:49.759
Yeah.
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So it's like killed so doesn't get to a but could there be anything really terrible that comes with that?
00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:57.759
I feel like when you that's what I think the whole premise is.
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Like when you get what you wish for, because everybody always thinks they know what they want.
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But then when you get it, just like they say, what is it?
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The curse of the lottery.
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Yeah.
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Like everybody who wins the lottery to just they end up losing their money.
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They lose their money, they have a horrific death, or something.
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You you think that this is the answer, and then it turned out to be no right.
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You're better off for what's one thing you would wish for?
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No, no, I'm not doing that.
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I would just be like, you know what?
00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:24.880
I'm not doing that.
00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:30.400
So overall, I think the movie I was it was good.
00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:35.119
I definitely need to, if I watch any more horror movies, they have to be during the day.
00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:35.519
Yeah.
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Um I need to have some some time in between to like because I am someone that will have really bad nightmares.
00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:43.359
I should have done.
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Because I kept telling him it.
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I'm like, it's not scary.
00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:47.599
It's not really like it's scary.
00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:50.640
It's like it's not scary for you.
00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:55.839
Yeah, it's kind of like the premise of I'm like, well, I'm not obsessed with her, and she's not obsessed with me, so I'll be fine.
00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:01.599
Because it's not one of like, it's not like a serial killer where like Michael Myers, where he's just out killing everybody.
00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:02.079
Right.
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Or where it's super believable.
00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:09.680
Because there's certain ones, and like, yeah, I don't I don't mess with like the the possession and the like religious.
00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:10.960
Yes.
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Anything that's a little bit too believable for me, I well, I wouldn't say believable.
00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:21.839
Anything that deals with the devil, like my Christian nature is like, nope, not gonna do it.
00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:22.240
Yeah.
00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:26.079
Because even the same thing, like I've never seen the exorcist, none of none of that.
00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:30.880
Because my mom, I remember when they redid the exorcist, and I told her I was gonna go see it.
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I mean, my mom was like in tears.
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She was like, hammer, you're just gonna open yourself up to that kind of horror from Satan.
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Like you're just opening yourself up.
00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:39.839
And I was like, Okay, mom.
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But then, like the older I got, I was like, Yeah, I don't, I don't want that around.
00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:51.440
The new evil deads, oh, they are next level crazy that I'm like, nope, not gonna do it.
00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:52.480
It's too much.
00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:59.200
Yeah, but now you throw a scream or you throw a crazy serial killer at me, okay.
00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:02.000
But it's so like fantastical.
00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:13.039
It's I mean, granted, it's not that it couldn't happen, it's just it's one of those like generic, you know, like Halloween, or I just so I I like to be scared.
00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:18.240
I don't like to be um maybe what I would call like terrified.
00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:20.640
I like creepy things.
00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:24.000
I like a ghost, I like a haunted house.
00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:30.559
Um, movies that I can't get behind are anything where it's just random.
00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:36.799
Like I can get behind Michael Myers, he just really hated the town, and he really needed a sister scream.
00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:38.400
There's a whole thing with
it.
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I don't like like movies like The Strangers, where they're t tormenting these people in their in their home, and they're like, Why are you doing this?
00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:47.759
And they were like, Oh, because you're home.
00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:48.960
Can't get on board with that.
00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:50.480
Yeah, there needs to be some purpose.
00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:52.480
I need a purpose behind your mayhem.
00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:54.480
Same thing with Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
00:21:54.559 --> 00:21:55.759
That all creeps me the hell out.
00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:59.599
Look, okay, so one of the last ones I watched as well, it was like right after.
00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:01.519
No, that was saw.
00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:01.920
Okay.
00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:04.000
Saw freaked me out.
00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:04.960
Can't do saw.
00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:10.160
Um, but I that was around the same time we went and we saw like a Friday the 13th that came out.
00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:15.039
I I got like so nauseous watching it and I had to like look away.
00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:15.279
Yeah.
00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:18.240
Because it was legit torture.
00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:20.880
And I can't I can't get behind that.
00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:22.160
Like that's the thing too.
00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:27.440
And to me, it's like, what is wrong with us as a people that like this is entertaining?
00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:30.319
I like a scary movie.
00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:32.960
I don't like a gory movie.
00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:36.720
I don't mind it if if it's gory, like if it's a kill bill kind of gory.
00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:36.960
Yeah.
00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:42.480
Like the last um screen, the seventh one that just came out this February.
00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:46.400
Like there's some gory parts because he's literally like slicing people with a knife.
00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:52.319
And so there's some gory, like, ooh, I don't like like torture for the sake of it.
00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:52.720
Yeah.
00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:56.079
So I'm I'm like a mid-stary movie.
00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:59.920
Like I can't do gore, torture, any of that business.
00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:00.319
Yeah.
00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:01.440
Devil.
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He's gotta stay out of it.
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:03.039
Yeah.
00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:05.039
I don't think that's with this stuff.
00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:06.960
Okay, all right.
00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:09.279
So we've got a couple categories.
00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:15.200
There's a lot of um different obsessions, obsessive behaviors in this movie.
00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:20.559
So maybe you're interested in the I love you so much I might ruin your life.
00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:22.640
Yeah, maybe that's what you're about.
00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:24.799
Maybe you're about that obsessive love.
00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:27.039
You know, you're very possessive.
00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:29.119
Maybe
that leads to stalking.
00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:33.599
Maybe it leads to fixation, maybe a a desire that has completely escaped the building.
00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:36.319
We definitely have something that you could add to the list.
00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:37.680
Or sure.
00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:40.240
Now Amanda's read this one and I've read this one.
00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:40.880
Yep.
00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:42.480
And there is a new one coming out.
00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:43.519
Is there?
00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:43.920
Yeah.
00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:48.160
I read this like years before they made it into a show.
00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:50.880
And I remember seeing the preview, and I was like, wait a minute.
00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:51.839
I'm pretty sure I read that.
00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:52.960
That sounds very clear.
00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:54.640
Um of course.
00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:59.119
I think I can't remember if it's already come, it might have already come out, but it's I think it's called Before You.
00:23:59.359 --> 00:23:59.839
Oh, okay.
00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:00.480
Something like that.
00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:01.759
So it's kind of like a prequel.
00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:02.160
Okay.
00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:05.599
So we kind of get to see the lead up to our dear friend Joe Goldberg.
00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:10.960
If you don't know what we're talking about already, it's you by Caroline Keptness?
00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:11.759
How do you say that?
00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:12.559
Keptiness?
00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:14.079
I think I've always said Keptnes in my head.
00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:15.200
Okay.
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:24.720
So this one has layers of unsettling intimacy, of living on the inside of the mind of someone who has convinced himself that obsession is love.
00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:27.440
So you is told from first person.
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:30.480
So we get we're inside Joe Joe Goldberg's head.
00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:32.240
It's not a safe place to be.
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:37.200
We know what obsessive romantic fixation looks like because you've already been inside his head.
00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:38.319
So we we know.
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:47.279
And he's the type you see his head, and it's I think he's a scary type of obsessive because like everything in his head is justifiable.
00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:52.480
Like he's talking her, he's very possessive of her before they're even together.
00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:58.480
Yeah, he's already created this whole like relationship almost in his head before.
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:02.400
He's like, oh, she's doing that for me.
00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:04.559
It's like, dude, she literally know you.
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:05.359
She'll know you.
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:05.599
Yeah.
00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:07.839
You came in your bookstore and you said a couple words.
00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:13.359
But I think especially, especially the show, uh, but I think the book as well.
00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:19.599
Like it's kind of the reader is intended to have these like moral like dilemmas, right?
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:22.000
Of like, yes, this is wrong.
00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:27.119
But then there's also moments because you're in his mind, where you're kind of sympathizing with him.
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.400
And then there's moments where you're like, okay, he's batshit crazy.
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:34.079
This kind of tension there of like, yes, this is wrong.
00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:50.559
I feel like it shows you, like, because coming from his mind, it kind of shows you that this kind of behavior could be anybody, and that's even more terrifying that you're like, oh my god, did I accidentally say hello a little too much to the barista at this work?
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:52.559
Like, what are we talking about here?
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:53.359
Yeah.
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:58.000
Um, now here's one that I haven't read: The Collector by John Fowles.
00:25:58.240 --> 00:25:58.960
Did you read this one?
00:25:59.200 --> 00:25:59.680
I haven't.
00:25:59.920 --> 00:26:06.559
This one's possession, it kind of masquerades devotion and the horrifying belief that having someone means loving.
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:10.400
This one's about a man who becomes obsessed with a young woman and ultimately abducts her.
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:11.519
Oh, okay.
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:16.319
So it kind of gives you a darker version of the same Joe question.
00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:18.240
Which remember, he does do that.
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:18.559
Yeah.
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:19.839
Does abducts.
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:20.559
Yeah.
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:26.079
But again, you see the same kind of thing from them on the inside of it's for your own good.
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:27.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:28.559
That's keep you safe.
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:30.880
They truly believe that what they're doing is not wrong.
00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:31.359
Yeah.
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:33.279
And that's creepy as hell.
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:35.680
Romance, obsession, possession, control.
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:38.720
That's that's what we're getting from from these fellas here.
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:44.880
Uh, we do have a third, our kind of cruelty by Aramanita Hall.
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:52.960
Okay, this one is a narrator who's absolutely certain the woman he loves is secretly communicating with him through everything she does.
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:54.079
Sounds familiar.
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:54.400
Yeah.
00:26:54.559 --> 00:27:06.480
The story is told from the perspective of Mike Hayes, an obsessed and deeply unreliable narrator who convinces himself that his ex-girlfriend Barry's engagement to another man is just a continuation of a secret game they used to play.
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:07.039
Oh.
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:08.960
That's kind of interesting.
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:20.480
So this one is very, it's this this category is
very much for the if you like the I'm totally crazy and obsessive, but I feel like I'm doing it for your best interest.
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:22.480
If that speaks to you.
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:25.119
So we're gonna move on to our next kind of category.
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:25.759
Oh, yeah.
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:32.720
And this is for the people who liked the aspect of the movie that is the be careful what you wish for side.
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.440
Um, this is the one wish willow shelf.
00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:40.319
You wanted something, congratulations, you got it, and that was your first mistake.
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.119
So you're gonna want to add these to your TBR.
00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:46.079
The first one is The Monkey's Paw by W.
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:46.480
W.
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:47.519
Jacobs.
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:52.799
It's short, it's foundational, and it lets you understand the DNA of obsession.
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:55.759
And this one actually has a direct connection.
00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:05.279
Barker has said obsession was inspired by monkey's paw tradition via The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror.
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:10.480
So wishes come true, just never in the way that you imagined.
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:11.599
We all know this one.
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:17.519
We all know the monkey paw, and it's yeah, you got the monkey paw, and then when you make the wish, like puts a finger down.
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:18.000
Oh.
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:18.559
I don't know.
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:19.440
Do you never see that?
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:19.920
Oh yeah.
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:21.279
No, I haven't.
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:27.759
Yeah, and it's very reminiscent of like um, you know, genie and a layup to me.
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:28.319
Oh yeah.
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:30.000
Too like you have to be like so specific.
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:31.839
Very specific to what you say.
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:32.799
Mm-hmm.
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:40.480
Um, the next that's going on the TBR is The Husbands by Holly Grimasio.
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:43.519
Um, this one came out in 2024.
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:44.480
Oh, I saw that.
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:46.319
This one's a fairly yeah.
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:56.160
Um, a woman discovers her addict can produce an endless succession of husbands, allowing her to keep replacing them in search of the perfect one.
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:58.079
Why we're so interested.
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:04.000
Because it's a much lighter interpretation of what if you could magically get exactly what you wanted?
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.359
And how do you know when you've gotten enough?
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:11.440
This is what kind of interests me because I'm like, what does she do with the husband?
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:12.319
That she doesn't want.
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:13.119
That she doesn't want.
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:13.359
Yeah.
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:14.960
Like, are you constantly I'm intrigued.
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:21.359
Like, is this an issue of like that book I read, Bunny, where like you're having to dispose you're having to dispose of them?
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:25.680
Like, if you're having to do that, I'd be like, listen, this is Or you're just setting them free into the world.
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:26.319
Like, what's going on?
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:28.799
They did do that in Bunny with the couple up though.
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:29.279
Okay.
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.119
Sometimes they didn't always work out well.
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:40.480
Um, another one we have, same uh from 2024 as well, the other valley by Scott Alexander Howard.
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:46.240
A girl lives in a valley surrounded by two other versions of the same place.
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:50.319
One 20 years in the past and one 20 years in the future.
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.559
Why we're interested about this one.
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:59.279
Um, this is one about choices, consequences, and the temptation to interfere with things that aren't yours to change.
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:01.359
That's very interesting premise.
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:02.799
That's an interesting premise.
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:04.079
I'm gonna get on board with that.
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:10.319
That's very like, let's see, we're in 20, like, would I want to live in the early 2000s again?
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:11.279
I don't, I don't know.
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:13.279
You know, I was in high school.
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:15.039
You know, I like a frostotips.
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:15.920
I don't know.
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:18.319
Do you love a frost shell necklace?
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.480
Focus shell necklace, and I love everything that came out of the DLIO's catalog.
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:23.839
So I don't know.
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:27.599
Um, maybe, or would I want to live like 20 years in the future?
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:32.079
Why, why I'm I yeah, I'm already getting up there in age.
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:32.799
I don't know.
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:33.599
That's the thing too.
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:34.480
Like, what's the premise?
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:36.720
Like, do we get to do we get to say the same age?
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:38.160
Like we just move over?
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:39.680
That's an interesting premise.
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:42.240
Yeah, I wouldn't I need more information before I walk on.
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:43.200
We we need more.
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:44.880
Okay, another category.
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.240
What if you want to do a love as body core?
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:50.880
Okay, we all know we do things for love.
00:30:51.119 --> 00:31:00.480
So, what happens when something that should feel intimate becomes invasive when desire isn't just emotional anymore, when love gets into your body.
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:09.599
So we've got some stuff to add to your TBR, Rouge by Mona Awad,
2023.
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:12.880
She is the one that wrote, if you guys love that book, Funny.
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:14.960
I was gonna say she sounds like familiar.
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:16.559
She's the one who wrote Funny.
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:19.759
A woman becomes increasingly consumed by beauty.
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:24.160
Her mother's death mirrors in a mysterious skincare world.
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:27.759
Why it works, beauty, obsession, surrealism, and horror.
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:33.440
This is the what if your desire to be beautiful became a genuinely terrifying book.
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:34.079
Interesting.
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:43.839
I kind of am like into these sort of books because it does a lot of them like kind of paint that black cloud on the like beauty industry.
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.720
And I think Ashna Kutcher did something too.
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:54.799
Oh check out Netflix, y'all.
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:58.640
Oh, his was um Ashna Kutcher's was called Beauty and it was an FX.
00:31:58.880 --> 00:31:59.440
Oh, okay.
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:00.559
An FX show.
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:02.880
But it's you know, same premise.
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:07.599
So we also have another one for this, Youth Juice by E.K.
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.319
Sahuth Sathu?
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:12.400
Sethu sounds right.
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:18.160
Sophia is addicted to her He Bie lifestyle, especially youth juice.
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:23.200
The fatty, smooth, soothing moisturizer tree has asked Sophia to test.
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:35.119
But when cracks in He B's infrastructure start to worsen and Sophia learns the gruesome secret ingredient at the heart of youth juice, she has to decide how far she's willing to go to stay beautiful forever.
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:36.559
Like when is it?
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:37.359
What is it?
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:38.880
Yeah, the blood of the blood of children.
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:41.039
The blood of newborn children.
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:42.319
What is it?
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:47.039
So I kind of dig that little sub-genre of mask because I think it does.
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:50.640
It's very satirical to think of how much money we spend.
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.640
I mean personally, freaking out the other day.
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:53.599
I thought I saw a new wrinkle.
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:55.279
It wasn't a wrinkle, don't worry, guys.
00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:59.200
But how obsessed we are with like staying young and beautiful.
00:32:59.359 --> 00:32:59.759
Interesting.
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:04.960
Next subcategory, it's the I don't know what's real anymore category.
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:14.079
So the vibe is psychological horror, unreliable perception, reality slowly slipping sideways.
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:18.559
So what we're gonna add to your TBR, I think both Amber and I read this one.
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.640
The silent patient by Alex McLeadies.
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:24.400
Yeah, something like that.
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:26.799
I feel like we've settled on a last name and as we change it.
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:27.680
Yeah, yeah.
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.720
You know, it's just it's always changing.
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:40.799
So this one's not supernatural, but it scratches the like psychological mystery, obsession, secrets, unreliable perspectives.
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.359
The what what is actually going on here?
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.599
Like we all know there's something else going on here.
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.680
Really totally like when you got to the twist, were you like, Yeah, it got me.
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:50.559
Yeah.
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:54.400
Like when I got to the twist on that one too, I was like, What?
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:57.599
Yeah, so there is a huge twist in this one.
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:05.680
So if you have been living under a rock and haven't heard of the silent patient, this is a good psychological thriller mystery.
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:06.960
Highly recommend.
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:07.680
Love it.
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.000
The next one is one I haven't read.
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:13.440
It's called Come Closer by Sarah Grant.
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:30.000
What starts as a strange tapping sound in Amanda, Amanda's apartment quickly spirals into something much darker as she begins losing control of her behavior and hearing a voice that doesn't feel like her own.
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:37.039
She has to figure out whether she's experiencing a psychological breakdown or something far more sinister.
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:41.360
It's creepy, intimate, and genuinely unsettling.
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:44.480
That I might be out on that one.
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:46.559
Some of this is her name's Amanda.
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:55.440
No, I think that's why like poltergeist scared me so much as a kid because I looked identical to that little girl.
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:57.280
You can still know you really do.
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:03.519
Like, but but we have both had that like super blonde hair, same type of features.
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:05.440
Yeah, it freaked me out.
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:06.880
Oh, girl.
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:13.519
All right, the next one we have for this one is We Used to Live Here by Marcus Cliver.
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:20.320
Eve and Charlie think they found the perfect house until a family shows up claiming they used to live there.
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:26.880
Eve makes the mistake of letting them inside and suddenly who does that?
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:28.639
The family won't leave.
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.079
Strange things begin happening and Charlie disappears.
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:39.360
The deeper Eve digs, the harder it becomes to tell what's actually happening and what might be in her head.
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:44.960
Oh Lord, I do have I do actually own this book, so it
is technically on the TBR.
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:45.440
Yep.
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:45.840
Yep.
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:46.639
I've seen it.
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:53.679
Why in the world would you let somebody like if somebody showed up at my door and said, I used to live here, I'd be like, that's cool.
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:54.639
Yeah.
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:55.760
Close the door.
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:56.400
Yeah.
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:58.960
I would I would not invite you in for tea.
00:35:59.039 --> 00:35:59.760
Yeah, so sorry.
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:01.679
Look at it from the outside.
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:02.400
Yeah.
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:04.480
Remember all your fond memories.
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:10.239
The last one is The Last House on Needless Street by Katriona Ward.
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:11.280
Amber read this one.
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:12.239
I did read this one.
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:21.599
Um, this one is at the end of the at the end of a Dead End Street sits a boarded up house occupied by a troubled man, a teenage girl who isn't allowed outside.
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:22.480
That's weird.
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:24.639
And a very unusual cat.
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:30.800
When a new neighbor arrives, determined to uncover what happened to her missing sister years ago.
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.760
Long buried secrets begin to surface.
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.239
Go in knowing as little as possible.
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.039
This is a book where the less you know, the better.
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:39.679
It is.
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:40.880
It's a very good book.
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:48.400
It's interesting because you do get you have multiple points of views, but one of the points of views is a cat.
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:49.679
What yes.
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:50.079
Okay.
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:51.679
So it's very interesting.
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.159
It does give some silent patient vibes.
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:54.719
Oh.
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.280
But it was, I think I gave it four.
00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.039
I don't think I gave it five.
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.400
Was this like scary or just more like psychological?
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:03.280
Psychological.
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:03.599
Okay.
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:07.760
It wasn't not scary at all because it is kind of like you're trying to uncover a mystery.
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:08.079
Yeah.
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.280
So it is very thrillery, but not not scary.
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:13.119
Good for her.
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:14.719
That's feminine rage.
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:25.360
I think a man and I say this a lot when we're uh for everyone who watched Nikki go increasingly feral and had one tiny, deeply inappropriate thought of well, good for her.
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:29.199
This part of it did when I was looking at it, I'm like, Well, you asked for this in effort.
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:29.679
Right.
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.000
You know, like whatever.
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:32.880
Right.
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:37.840
Well, it was weird too, because you had the certain moments where I feel like she got like kind of lucid.
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:41.360
She had those moments of like, we didn't even talk about the hearts.
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:50.000
Okay, so something I didn't like about the movie, which, spoiler alert, they never explain what is in her.
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:57.039
And that kind of bot that's the only thing, like, if I were to give, like, if this had been a book, that I would have bumped it down to four stars.
00:37:57.360 --> 00:37:59.679
Because that's something that bothered me heavily.
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:10.480
That I was like, the creepiest part that I thought was in the movie was when he goes to leave to meet his other friend in the park at like two o'clock in the morning, and she says, Help me.
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:13.119
And she's asleep, like she's full on asleep.
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:13.519
Yeah.
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.800
And he's like, says something about being with Nikki.
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:18.880
And she says, I've never been with you.
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:25.039
It's almost like whatever took a hold of her, yeah, but it's almost like a it's a possession.
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:26.719
And Nikki's in the back.
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.119
And so then the possession part of her was sleeping.
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.239
And finally, Nikki was able to say something.
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:36.239
And to me, that was like the creepiest part where she's like, I've never been with you.
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.400
I'm like, then what was with them?
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:46.719
And they never tell you because even at the end, where she f he, you know, dies and she finally like comes out of it.
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:48.079
It's what were you possessed by?
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:48.960
Like, what?
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:50.000
What was it?
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:51.199
I need to know.
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:58.000
So I I was not happy with that because I needed to know.
00:38:58.239 --> 00:38:58.559
Okay.
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:04.639
Because otherwise it would it would have just been a switch and you would she would never have those lucid moments.
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:05.119
Yeah.
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:08.880
It would just, is it just you're possessed by the obsession itself?
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:10.480
Is it is it what?
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:14.480
But the fact that she makes that comment, and don't get me wrong, because it was creepy as hell.
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:14.800
Yeah.
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:16.400
When she's like, I've never been with you.
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.239
I'm like, oh my god, did you just been with him?
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:18.639
Yeah.
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:19.440
This whole time.
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:23.760
Did you love like her facial expressions and shit?
00:39:24.000 -->
00:39:25.679
The actress who played her.
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:26.239
Oh, I know.
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.000
Like Mickey did so good.
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:31.679
And then when she would like hit herself, yeah, you'll go look off.
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.000
Were you, did you love the part where the so they're at the friend's house at that party?
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:36.480
Oh my god.
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.760
And then they're playing that game, and she's like, kiss the person to your left.
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:40.639
Oh my god.
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.679
I was like, and then she like scoots her over.
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.280
Yeah, and then she just still making that face and like scoots her over.
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.880
I was like, what if everybody's watching this?
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.199
And I'm like, somebody needs to do something.
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:57.840
Well, and then she had read that thing like that.
00:39:58.079 --> 00:39:59.440
Yeah, what the hell must that the part?
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:04.800
If this was me at the party, I would be like, What are we doing?
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.400
What that's why this whole movie, I was just like, what is happening?
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:09.920
It's a it's a good movie.
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:11.199
It's fantastic.
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:15.039
Okay, first book we have for Good For You.
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:16.559
Good for you, girl.
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:17.760
Feminine Rage.
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:20.320
Boycards by Eliza Clark.
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:29.519
Irina is an artist with a very specific obsession, photographing men she finds on the streets of Newcastle and turning them into subjects for her provocative art.
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:40.960
When she gets the chance to revive her career with a prestigious gallery exhibition, her already messy life takes a darker turn, especially when a shy supermarket employee catches her attention.
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:49.840
So this one's very twisted, darkly funny, uh a descent into obsession, control, and just how dangerous the person behind the camera can be.
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:51.519
Like it.
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Because that was kind of the thing with obsession too.
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Like you kind of have that dark humor because you're laughing at parts because you're like, what is going on?
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Yeah.
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Like I say, with when she's making that face, you're like, come on.
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And then everybody's just kind of sitting there like, This is so awkward, but nobody's saying anything.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Except the friend did say, Nikki, are you okay?
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Yeah.
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So then we also have A Certain Hunger by Chelsea G.
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Summers.
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Dorothy Daniels is a
successful food critic with impeccable tastes, a glamorous career, and a secret that makes Hannibal Lecter look like a picky eater.
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Oh.
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For Prison, she recounts the men she loved, the meals she savored, and the increasingly disturbing path that led her to her downfall.
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Decadent, feminist, wildly funny, and absolutely not for anyone who wants to know what's in the kitchen.
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Oh God.
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I mean, it's kind of like I'm so curious.
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I know.
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Like you go, girl, because I know damn well you're cooking the men up in the kitchen.
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Okay, last one, this one was really creepy when I gave like when I was looking at it, so I was like, oh god.
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Okay, this one's Mae Fly by C CJ Leed with an E on the end.
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Uh by Dame Maeve is an ice princess at an amusement park.
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Who wouldn't love that?
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By night, she's drinking on the sunset strip, obsessing over her favorite books, and quietly harboring a much darker side.
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When a new man enters her life, Maeve decides to stop suppressing her impulses and discovers just how far she can take them.
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So on this we'll think like American Psycho meets feminine rage, Hollywood excess, and a whole lot of blood.
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So this one's a great mess.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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But I feel like when it's feminine rage, it has to be.
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Yeah.
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Like we gotta get messy.
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Girls don't mind getting messy, I think.
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The the only thing I'm I'm I'm wondering feminine rage to me is usually when it's justified, right?
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Like you almost know like it should be justified.
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Notice though, none of these we've read in this category, so I'm wondering.
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Yeah.
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I'm wondering if that's the case.
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Yeah.
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Let's see.
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Maybe the chick cooking them up in the kitchen dessert.
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What did you what did you do?
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Yeah.
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And remember, sometimes mana neighbor get a little iffy on.
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Yeah, they deserve that.
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Yeah.
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I can see it.
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Um, okay.
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Next subcategory is the I want obsessive love.
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Eyes are the best part by Monica Kim.
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This is our first recommendation for this one.
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2024 is when it came out.
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G1 becomes increasingly fixated on her mother's boyfriend and his blue eyes.
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And that fixation takes a horrifying turn.
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I don't like anything else about him, but his eyes are amazing.
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Uh, why it immediately belongs on the list is it's got desire, jealousy, obsession, violence, and body horror.
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Yay! And this one actually appeared in current reader discussion, specifically looking for books that like scratch that obsession itch.
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And I'm like, what is she about to do with his eyes?
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Maybe she eats up or just carry them around in like a jar.
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You know?
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What's that song Jar Hearts?
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Yeah.
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Next one is Sophie Standing There by Megan Beg Meg Mason.
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I know.
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I was like, wait a minute.
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I'm not we're not on those terms, Meg.
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Um this one is a new one, came out in 2026.
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A woman becomes intensely fascinated with a famous author, and that admiration turns into an increasingly consuming fixation when their lives intersect.
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So this is a parasocial obsession.
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It's not I want you to love me.
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It's more of I have created an entire version of you in my head.
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So I mean that's very Yeah, we're readers.
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Who has it though now?
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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I mean, in my head, me and JK Rollin have have already been friends for years.
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So what I'm hearing is maybe you shouldn't ever go see her in person.
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It's kind of like I would think it would be one of those where like, you know, they tell you never to meet your heroes.
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Yeah.
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I would probably I don't know.
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I mean, I've listened to her on podcasts.
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I feel like she's pretty ch chill.
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Yeah, I mean, I feel like the relationship that cooked up in my head is probably pretty on par.
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Yeah.
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For me and me and JK.
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I feel like she'd let me call her Joanne.
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Or Joe.
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I feel like I feel like Joe would be the terms that we are on.
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Is all I'm saying.
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Okay, so if you want to just generally be creeped out and you're just like, I just need that whole level of like, oh my god.
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Bloom by Delilah S.
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Dawson.
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A woman becomes fascinated by another woman who seems almost impossibly perfect, and the relationship takes a dark and surreal turn.
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This one has also been suggested by readers specifically looking for obsession adjacent books.
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So it's very abtraction, obsession, transformation, and horror.
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My god feeling sews herself to this.
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Oh gosh.
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So I was thinking, like, what is this like a single white female kind of vibe?
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But it seems like a little bit more horror than that.
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Not a sound meaning, the man was like, this is single white female, and I'm like, oh my god, she like sewed themselves together.
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Yeah.
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So that they could be Siamese twins.
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Okay, so I love that.
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Like when we talk about books, it's the personality comes out.
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The next subcategory is I want the autonomy and the control part.
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So because one of the most disturbing things about obsession isn't simply that Mickey becomes obsessed, but it's that she doesn't have a choice.
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Like she didn't choose this.
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Um, it was completely out of her control.
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So books that kind of have that side to it would be Annie Bought by Sierra Greer.
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This one came out in 2024.
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Annie is an AI companion created to be the perfect girlfriend for her human owner.
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But she begins developing curiosity and secrecy and desires of her own.
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This one was also specifically like created in the library list of around obsession.
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And this could be a really interesting companion to it because instead of the I made you love me, it's more of the I created you to love me.
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And then what happens when the thing created to fulfill your desires develops desires of its own?
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This is probably one thing that scares me about AI is people really start talking of these things.
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Oh, I know.
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It's weird.
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No, it's scary.
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It's fun in games when I'm watching the commercial for Chat GPT, and it's this old lady, and she's like, I'm knitting a sweater for my grandson.
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What'd you say your name was?
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And she's like, You could just call me Chat GPT.
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She's like, Oh, okay, Chat GPT, and she's chatting away and it's like funny.
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But then you're like, yikes.
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Yeah.
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Now I already thought COVID was the worst thing that happened because of the shutdown, and like the whole social interaction with people created a really big problem, especially for the youth.
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This AI business is like leading us down in the same way.
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It's yeah, yeah.
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It's terrible.
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You can have a fake friend online if you're lonely.
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Yeah.
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So that is everything that we have for you to put on your TBR list.
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I feel like we gave you a lot if you're craving that obsession.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And a lot of these are like, I'm I'm genuinely putting on my TBR.
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So basically, we started this episode because we watched Obsession and thought, okay, what the hell do we read now?
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And then we ended up with an entire TBR about people wanting things way too badly.
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So you've got everything you need.
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You've got obsessive love, manufactured love, supernatural obsession, beauty, success, belonging, and the original.
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Be careful what you wish for.
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So here's the thing: we haven't read any of these yet.
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A couple we did tell you about that we have.
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So this is officially your post-obsession reading experiment.
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If you've read any of these, tell us did we just put something amazing on your TBR or did we completely miss the mark?
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We watched Obsession.
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Now we're gonna find out what happens when the Obsession follows us into our TBR.
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Oh my God.
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Okay.
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Y'all have a good week.
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