رونوشت کامل Let's Get Lost 81 - Season 4: There's No Place Like Home Part 2 & 3

You didn't remember. 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:07.199 Like that you didn't remember? 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:08.960 I didn't remember a lot of things. 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:13.680 Actually, I did remember a few things from this episode too that were kind of important, so that was very interesting to me. 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:21.839 So maybe cocktails before the episode's not a great idea. 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:25.519 Oh I got them all, I got them all. 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:25.920 It's okay. 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:26.879 Blueberries fell. 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:27.920 In my boobs. 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:32.639 Um yeah, I there was a couple things that I was just like, how does this go again? 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:36.399 Um I because I couldn't I didn't remember at first that was Penny on the book. 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:37.120 No, me neither. 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:38.079 That was one of them. 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:39.040 Me neither. 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:43.839 And so like, yeah, it's still having seen it multiple times, it still gets you. 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:52.480 I clearly dro like blanked out from like the helicopter gin son screaming point until like they're they have to go back. 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:57.439 Like I did not realize that we saw so much of like how they get, which it totally makes sense. 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:02.480 But because I remember when we were watching it before, I kept thinking, like, how do they ditch Desmond and Lapitas later? 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:02.879 Right. 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:06.240 And I could not remember it, but obviously it makes total sense and it was good. 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:16.079 Yeah, and because I was sort of thinking the last thing you see before it's like lost on the screen is the island disappearing. 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:18.240 I kind of forgot that there was stuff after that. 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:19.040 In this season. 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:19.839 Yeah, in this season. 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:20.240 Agreed. 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:23.600 I always thought that was sort of the lost end title scene. 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:29.279 It's like the island disappears, there's those ripples in the water, and there's like that actually kind of probably would have been pretty good. 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:31.519 Yeah, that was insane. 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:33.279 But what happened in the finale is good too. 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:33.680 But okay. 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:34.000 All right. 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:35.600 Before we get there, tell us a bit about the episode. 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:36.319 Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:36.639 Okay. 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:41.600 So Snow Place Like Home, part two andor three. 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:47.759 Um uh 9.2 and 9.3 out of 10, if rated separately. 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:56.639 12.3 million viewers that week, which is actually a little bit less than the Pent Ultimate one, the one from two weeks previous or three weeks prior. 00:05:56.800 --> 00:05:59.680 So, like they had that gap and they paid for it. 00:05:59.920 --> 00:06:01.519 So, your nickname count. 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:10.480 I know for certain for sure Sundance Freckles, and he calls Jack something, I think, right? 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:12.399 Uh stop doing that. 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:15.920 Uh, you already have the one he called Jack. 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:16.720 Sundance. 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:19.759 He called, I thought he called, oh yes, he called him that. 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:21.360 He got there's one other nickname, I think. 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:22.399 So I think it's three. 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:23.360 Yeah, it is three. 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:27.040 And so it's Sundance, Freckles, and then it's still Pitas. 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:28.240 Oh, right. 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:31.600 When he goes, comes back to the and he's like trying to get himself. 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:33.759 He's like, What are you trying to pick that lock with? 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:34.399 Blah blah blah. 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:35.040 What does he call him? 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:35.839 Kenny Rogers. 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:38.079 Kenny Rogers, yeah, that's a good one. 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:41.680 We do have an honor, we have a we have one extra nickname. 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:43.839 Oh and it's not from Sawyer. 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:45.439 Oh, it's from Rose. 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:46.160 Oh, yeah. 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:47.600 Shorty. 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:47.839 Yeah. 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:48.240 Yeah. 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:50.480 And I love when she's like, I'm gonna keep my eye on you. 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:50.879 Yeah. 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:52.879 Because he's just helping himself. 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:53.920 Yeah, I love that scene. 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:54.879 Yeah. 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:55.360 All right. 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:58.560 So, and technically this is day 100 to 108. 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:06.160 Yes, I can't even say on the island anymore because I'm assuming they mean like rescued on 108. 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:06.800 Exactly. 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:07.519 Yeah. 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:09.279 They got rescued on day 108. 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:11.680 So we're counting the time that they're on the boat. 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:13.120 Because they were on the boat for about a week. 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:15.759 So it's not, it's not, it's just days in this world now. 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:16.639 Okay, that makes sense. 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:18.720 Because I was like, I'm like, that was not okay. 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:19.680 Yeah, no, that makes them. 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:21.920 Yeah, no, that makes sense. 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:25.199 All right, so I have uh five trivia questions. 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:26.720 No, I don't have a sound. 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:28.720 Uh you better make it a good one. 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:31.279 Because it's the finale. 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:33.040 Okay.

00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:34.160 Ready? 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:37.439 I'm freaking out. 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:42.319 Okay, true or false, they filmed the freighter scenes on an actual freighter. 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:46.639 True. 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:47.519 Correct. 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:49.120 It was a 50-50 shot. 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:53.839 But with an interesting factoid on it, several actors and crew members stayed aboard while filming. 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:58.879 Director Jack Bender included, who got seasick almost immediately and hated his time on there. 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:03.040 I really hate that actually and like nicer in there than it was. 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:05.199 Yeah, than the bloodstained crew. 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:09.439 Like Deck and Michael ain't doing so well. 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:12.079 No, he's too busy fixing engines. 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:12.800 All right. 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:15.040 Question number two: true or false? 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:19.040 The helicopter actually took off and landed on the freighter. 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:23.040 Like, what do you mean? 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:30.240 Like they actually landed on the freighter as opposed to like landing somewhere else, like a stair sound stage or something. 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:32.000 Uh-uh. 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:32.799 Green screen. 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:34.080 Would you like to give this a shot? 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:34.399 No. 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:35.919 Dun dun dun dun dun. 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:36.240 Yes. 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:37.200 True. 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:37.919 False. 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:40.399 I thought it might be true if they used a real freighter. 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:51.120 During scenes where it was taking off and landing, they used a crane to move it up and down, and then added the moving rotors using digital effects because the helicopter was actually too big and it would have sliced the boat. 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:51.679 Oh shit. 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:52.399 Oh, that's fair. 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:53.360 That's probably a good call on the show. 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:57.759 I'm just funny thinking this there's a crane lifting this helicopter up and they're filming it. 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:02.080 Just the the lengths they go to to make these crane attached to the case. 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:06.960 The fact that it gets to these like magical, mystical levels of like what we see is actually very impressive. 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:08.879 Yeah. 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:09.600 Okay. 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:10.960 Question number two. 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:11.600 Three. 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:18.480 Normally editors have one to two months to edit an episode of this length, assuming it's the two episodes as one. 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:24.639 Because of the writer strike and the accelerated schedule, how long did editors actually have to edit these two episodes of the finale? 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:27.440 I think we

talked a little bit about this, right? 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:31.120 Because that's why there was like a gap in the week, is to try to give them a little bit more time, right? 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.600 So I think they had like two weeks. 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:34.720 I didn't hear sound. 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:37.120 Two weeks. 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:38.559 Uh incorrect. 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:39.600 Teresa? 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:40.960 I don't have an answer. 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:42.559 Is it because you don't have a sound? 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:43.279 Yes. 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:45.200 Just do d dun dun dun dun. 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:46.000 That's so lost. 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:47.360 I touched my rock. 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:48.559 That's not a lost sound. 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:50.080 But it's it is now. 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:53.759 No, that's a lost podcast sound. 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:55.360 That's not a lost TV show sound. 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:56.480 I mean, there's so many. 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:59.039 You could take one of these quotes I have on the board. 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:07.120 I hope someday someone listens to our podcast and does trivia about it, and then someone's sound for the trivia is I touch my rock. 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:08.080 Me too. 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:09.279 One time. 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:10.240 Yes. 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:10.799 Okay. 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:14.720 Anyway, it they had three weeks only. 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:18.000 What normally takes up to two months, but four editors worked on it. 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:22.240 I did see that there were four editors on it, and I remember thinking, is that common? 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:25.679 I because I couldn't it it was something that caught my attention. 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:27.440 So I'm like, I bet you that's not normal. 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:27.840 Yeah. 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.600 And then I noticed that three had the ACE like designation and one didn't. 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.360 So I was like, I wonder if they brought someone in. 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:33.600 Yeah. 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:34.559 What's ACE? 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:36.639 It's just the like professional designation. 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:37.600 It's like the union. 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:37.840 Yeah. 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:39.519 It's like if you're a SAG member. 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:42.240 But like some people get to have it after their names. 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:46.399 Like, like kind of how like engineers have stuff after their name and stuff. 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:49.600 They're like accredited editors for working in production. 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:51.039 We get paid more, probably. 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:51.600 Probably. 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:54.240 Question number four. 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:54.639 Okay. 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:59.440 How many alternate endings were filmed to minimize the risk of leaks? 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:06.480 Teresa, come on. 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:08.080 I'm going to say three. 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:09.120 Incorrect. 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:11.039 Oh, that's too bad. 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:13.759 Teresa, just say an answer. 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:17.039 I'm worried I'm going to startle everyone. 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:17.759 Just do it. 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:18.639 Just do it. 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:23.440 I was going to do that at one point, too. 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:25.200 Four? 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:27.120 Incorrect. 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:28.720 I can't do that again. 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:28.960 No. 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:29.919 You have to. 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:31.759 I think I blew everyone's ears out. 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:32.000 No. 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:35.039 Actually, it's I think it was so loud the mic cut it off. 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:38.320 I didn't really hear much. 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:38.720 Really? 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:39.120 Yeah. 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:40.320 Let's try again later. 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:41.679 Okay, so two. 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:46.000 One showing Sawyer in the coffin and one showing Desmond in the coffin. 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:48.879 Oh, I actually think I've seen screenshots of that. 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:49.679 Wait, what was the question? 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:52.159 How many alternate there was three total? 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:53.919 Two, one was real, obviously. 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:55.919 I would have died if it was Sawyer in that coffin. 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:02.399 And they did show them on like ABC Good Morning America or something as like a after it aired, obviously. 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:03.120 Oh, that's cool. 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:03.279 Yeah. 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:05.919 Because I remember I can see a screenshot in my head of that. 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:06.639 Yeah, same. 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:07.919 Yeah, I remember that. 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:12.159 Um, and Sawyer or uh who plays Sawyer again? 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:13.600 Josh Holloway. 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:17.360 He when they were filming it, they didn't know they were alternate endings. 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:22.720 There was a time where he thought that's how he was gonna have to learn how he died and ended up in that coffin. 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:25.039 Crazy not to share that. 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:27.840 One more question. 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:28.399 Okay. 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:33.440 The funeral home where Locke's body rests is named Hoff's Drawler Funeral Home. 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:36.159 What is Hoff's Drawler an anagram for? 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:38.799 Fuck, I knew that was coming and I was like, trace a thank. 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:39.919 And then then I didn't. 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:44.399 Hoff's drawler. 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:46.720 It's hard to when you can't see the letters. 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:47.679 I understand. 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:51.200 I'm gonna spell it out. 00:12:53.840 -->

00:12:54.879 H-O-F-F-S. 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:56.000 Oh, there's an F. 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:59.360 D-R-A-W-L-A-R. 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:03.200 Hoffstrawler. 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:05.759 I'm so bad at anagrams. 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:06.320 Me too. 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:08.080 It's hard when I can't see the letters. 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:09.440 Hoffstrawler. 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:12.320 What is a W in it? 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:14.080 Hold on. 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:16.559 Oh my goodness. 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:18.320 We'll speed this up in editing. 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:23.200 Oh no, that's oh god. 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:23.759 Oh dear. 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:25.519 G-R-A-W-L-E-R. 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:26.399 L-A-R. 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:27.120 L-A-R. 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:28.080 Draw R. 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:29.120 Draw R. 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:36.639 Is it I think we should leave all Jin. 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:41.600 And then there's this beautiful music. 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:46.080 I remember that was so long. 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:46.639 Whoa. 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:47.600 You got it? 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:48.159 Yep. 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:49.120 Uh Jin. 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:50.639 Oh, that's your sound effect. 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:51.440 Yeah. 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:53.360 Okay. 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:55.200 Uh what? 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:56.320 Flash forward? 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:57.039 Correct. 00:13:57.279 --> 00:13:58.080 Oh my gosh. 00:13:58.480 --> 00:13:59.440 Good job. 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:01.039 I was just doing it. 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:02.480 I didn't even get close. 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:03.519 Very nice. 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:04.159 That's amazing. 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:04.879 Okay, that's it. 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:05.759 That's your triv. 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:06.240 Oh, good. 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:08.879 I think that one's worth five times the point. 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:10.799 Oh, I forgot to hand out points. 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:11.759 So sure. 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:13.200 I went. 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:16.799 You got one right, and I got one right. 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:19.440 But this last one took a lot of work. 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:21.039 Yeah, it took a lot of work. 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:26.080 Anyway, I think that leads us to Teresa's dream of consciousness. 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:27.600 It's gonna be a doozy. 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:30.000 There's no other I'm not missing a segment. 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:30.480 Nope. 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:32.080 No, it's always been the same. 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:32.639 Okay. 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:33.840 Well, all right. 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:37.200 Season four, finale, part two and or three. 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:38.639 There's no place like home. 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:39.519 Oh, okay. 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:41.759 We're just leaving off from this awkward part. 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:44.159 This all feels very dramatic. 00:14:45.039

--> 00:14:47.679 The screeching, the stop, the reverse. 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:49.840 I mean, I would just do a full circle. 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:51.279 Kate, why are you so mad? 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:52.240 Oh, that's why. 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:53.840 Sorry, who's Jeremy? 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:56.799 Kate, I think needs a bit of a tissue. 00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:57.919 Um, I'm confused. 00:14:58.000 --> 00:14:58.720 Why not say his name? 00:14:58.799 --> 00:14:59.759 It's his nephew. 00:14:59.919 --> 00:15:01.279 Oh, awkward, I see. 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:02.480 Okay, it's been three years. 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:03.519 That's a long time. 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:05.679 I mean, can't you just go back by yourself, Jack? 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:07.120 Is that not good enough? 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:09.200 Also, why do we have to go back? 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:11.360 Jack, you're probably gonna pass out soon. 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:12.799 Oh yay, it's Hurley. 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:15.279 You know, it's been a while since Jack and Hurley saw each other. 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:16.559 I'm sorry, who is he? 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:18.000 Don't we just need Hurley? 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:19.679 Why are we going closer? 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:22.879 Oh, Locke is not good with Ben's directions, I guess. 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:26.320 Oh, are we moving the boat of C4? 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:27.840 What are we gonna do now? 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:32.559 Oh, so does that mean Des knows how to de blow up stuff? 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:34.720 Um, okay, so he does know what's up. 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:35.200 Okay. 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:37.120 Wow, we're saying boom a lot. 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:40.559 Um I I guess I mean no matter what, boom. 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:42.320 Um, so are we gonna abandon ship? 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:45.279 Are we gonna swim on the bearing and go back to the island? 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:47.679 I'm sorry, where did Locke get a manual? 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:49.039 Okay, yeah, exactly. 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:50.159 Let's just dip out of here. 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:51.519 Wait, why not, Hurley? 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:52.639 I'm confused. 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:55.919 Why do they go to the station if they're just gonna take Ben away from the station? 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:57.759 Oh man, Kimi is mad today. 00:15:58.159 --> 00:15:59.039 Very angry. 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:00.799 Oh, Kate ran into guns. 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:02.240 Wait, who's she being chased by? 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:04.240 I thought oh right, she ran into Richard. 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:05.679 But she was surrounded, no? 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:06.399 How did she get away? 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:07.440 Oh they're gonna lie. 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:08.240 Oh the whispers. 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:10.159 Oh shit, these people gonna die. 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:12.480 I mean bye-bye, mean people, they gonna get you. 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:12.960 Mm. 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:13.759 Called it. 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:17.120 I want to go to Otherton for this combat training that they all seem to have. 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:19.919 Because this is intense and honestly kind of terrifying. 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:21.919 Um, okay, just open fire. 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:23.519 Okay, we'll be getting out of there. 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:25.679 Wow, Kimi is just rude. 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:28.000 I feel like Ben's not running very fast. 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:29.840 More like a slow jog. 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:30.480 Very calm. 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:32.000 Oh, and now he fell. 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:34.080 Oh, so we are helping Ben now. 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:36.240 Oh, Said Dackle, get him. 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:37.759 Oh, here we go. 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:39.519 Oh shit, good job, Said. 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:40.000 Oh no. 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:40.720 Oh damn, son. 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:42.480 Said get him! Oh my god, yes. 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:43.600 Oh my god, he's strong down. 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:44.639 This is intense. 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:46.480 So who is gonna kill this mofo? 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:49.919 Wait, is that not a bulletproof vest? 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:51.200 Damn, Richard. 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:52.320 And they all come out. 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:53.840 Wait, where was Said again? 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:55.679 Oh yeah, he went with Kate, right. 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:57.840 Wait, is Said mad at Kate? 00:16:58.000 --> 00:16:59.360 Are we freeing him? 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:00.559 I guess you have to. 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:03.600 I mean I'm also skeptical, but like I feel like something ain't right. 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:04.880 Um, who's this lady? 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:06.640 Is it Walt's grandmother? 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:08.079 Oh hey, Walt's in this. 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:10.559 I mean, I don't think he'd hurt anything to do, Walt. 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:12.720 If that's what you're getting at, ma'am. 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:15.200 Oh, look, Walt's not a little kid, no Mo. 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:16.319 Oh, they were bros. 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:19.519 Sad that no one to see him, but like I guess how would they find him? 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:21.920 Didn't they say that they're not saying who they are? 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:24.319 The hell is this Jeremy Mofo? 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:26.880 Um, are we protecting them from C dub? 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:29.279 Hurley, stop eating those stale ass crackers. 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:30.559 Wait, they're good? 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:32.960 Oh, how sore can I answer that question? 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:35.519 John, it's not like a home, right? 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:37.920 Like, you're not like, hey, come stay in my place. 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:39.359 Like this is really awkward. 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:41.519 John, you're really testing his patients. 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:43.519 I mean, Jack's like a doctor, right? 00:17:43.599 -->

00:17:46.559 So maybe his destiny is to like keep doing complicated surgeries. 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:48.480 I'm sorry, why do they have to lie, John? 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:51.200 I mean, an island can still be a place, right? 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:52.640 I mean, what are you gonna do, John? 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:54.960 Because it seems as though you can't figure this out. 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:57.200 I think y'all just both need to settle down. 00:17:57.440 --> 00:17:58.240 Oh, he's back. 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:01.279 See, no one knows what the fuck an anthurium is. 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.039 Oh damn, shot's fired. 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:04.079 Wait, what is our plan? 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:05.440 Why are we telling him this? 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:07.279 Okay, so you bought some time, I guess. 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.000 What if it what if the little light turn never turns red? 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.000 Man, that little boat shirk and motor. 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:13.839 Oh, Juliet's hair looks nice today. 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:15.200 Juliette's a nice lady. 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:17.359 Uh, but why does Dan look so concerned? 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:19.519 Oh, now we got a nickname from Rose. 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:21.359 I'm sorry, why is Miles gonna stay? 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:22.880 Why are we surprised? 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:25.519 Back here with like she's been here before? 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:29.359 We're all very nonchalant about getting into some old ass rickety elevators. 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:31.200 I'm sorry, what magic box again? 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:32.240 What is this place? 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:33.519 How many stations are there again? 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:35.839 Wait, what are all the Dharma stations for? 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:37.599 Oh my god, another video. 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:38.400 I knew it. 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:40.000 Okay, that's a fancy door. 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:42.880 Hey, John's just like, okay, I'll set, I don't need to help you. 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:44.240 Ooh, cute bunny. 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:46.720 Um, seriously, what's this dude's name actually? 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:48.400 What's a Casimir effect? 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:49.920 I'm sorry, space and time? 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:51.119 Okay, vault. 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:52.720 Exotic matter. 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:53.759 Okay, vague. 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:55.680 I'm sorry, what is happening right now? 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:58.079 I'm sorry, that's all that Ben is doing. 00:18:58.240 --> 00:18:59.680 What is 4D space? 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:02.240 I'm sorry, 100 milliseconds is what, like 0.1 seconds? 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:03.440 Can't we just say that? 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:05.039 Um, what is happening right now? 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:06.079 Oh, it's going up. 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:07.759 Now what? 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:09.519 Oh dear, Caitlin Sawyer. 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:10.319 Oh, and Jack. 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:11.119 Awkward. 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:12.799 Oh, poison poor Sawyer. 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:13.759 And poor Lapidas. 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:17.039 Okay, I guess it's safe now, but I'm still uncomfortable. 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:18.079 Everybody's on. 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:19.680 Okay, yeah, here we go. 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:21.359 Um, do we have seat belts? 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:23.519 Do helicopters have seat belts? 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:24.000 I don't know. 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:24.880 Okay, off we go. 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:25.599 Everyone's chilling. 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:26.480 Bye, Island. 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:27.759 I feel like something's gonna happen. 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:29.519 Things are way too easy right now. 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:31.200 I don't know what feels wrong. 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:32.799 Or maybe I'm paranoid. 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:33.200 I don't know. 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:33.920 We'll see. 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:38.880 Um, did we think that Kimi was just gonna do oh my god. 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:39.519 Jin. 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:40.000 Okay. 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:41.119 Jin saved us. 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:41.680 Yay. 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:44.160 Okay, this feels like maybe we don't go back to the boat. 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:47.440 I'm sorry, does Lapitas know where the freighter is if you moved it? 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:50.640 I'm sorry, why are you losing fuel so fast? 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:52.240 I knew it was too easy. 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:55.279 Should we be really sticking our heads out of a helicopter like that? 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:57.279 You know, Jack, this is not that simple. 00:19:57.359 --> 00:19:59.680 You just sitting, poor Lapitas, and you're yelling at him. 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:01.119 Everything go bye bye. 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:03.279 I mean, Jack, you can't see the boat, man. 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:04.559 Oh my god, Sawyer. 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:05.440 What's he saying? 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:09.759 Ah, is he saying that thing that Kate does that Jack gets mad about because she won't tell him? 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:12.000 Oh, and Kate's just kissing him back. 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:13.839 And Jack's like, what is happening? 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:16.160 Oh my god, Sawyer, cross your arms and legs. 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:17.920 Oh my god, god, that must have hurt. 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:19.599 Is he gonna swim on the bearing? 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:21.119 He's a pretty good swimmer though. 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:22.400 He's literally so sweet. 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:24.319 Okay, so she's gonna stay now too? 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:25.359 Everyone's just staying? 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:26.240 What's happening? 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:27.359 Lion deed. 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:28.559 Wait, were you born here? 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:29.440 Are you another? 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:30.480 How'd you get off? 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:31.599 I I don't get it. 00:20:31.680 -->

00:20:33.200 How long have you two known each other? 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:34.880 Aren't you leaving Juliet? 00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:36.480 Oh my god, she's so sweet. 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:37.359 Oh Daniel. 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:40.160 That was just so weird to think like, I don't think I'm coming back. 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:41.839 Now Juliet's sketched out. 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:43.279 I'm sorry, who is in this? 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:44.160 I bet it's Kimi. 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:45.039 I bet he's alive. 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:45.839 Called it. 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:47.519 He was wearing a bulletproof vest. 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:49.279 Shoot him in the head next time. 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:51.039 Oh, we both said it, Kimi. 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:52.240 Wait, what's that, Ben? 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:53.039 I'm sorry. 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:55.599 Let's scroll back and see that bicep again. 00:20:55.920 --> 00:20:56.480 Hokay. 00:20:56.720 --> 00:20:58.640 Ha! Kimi, he doesn't give a shit about that. 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:00.000 That's an unfortunate plan. 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:01.359 And you're an asshole. 00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:02.240 He's gonna kill you. 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:03.920 Oh, it's John it's John. 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:05.920 What's your plan, John Locke? 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:08.079 You can't reason with this man because he's crazy. 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:09.440 Oh shit. 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:10.799 I love Ben with his stick. 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:11.920 Like, hot damn. 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:13.200 Oh my god, Ben. 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:14.400 Well, he's gonna die. 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:16.240 What I mean, oh sorry, what did you do? 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:17.359 Oh yeah, the boat. 00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:17.839 Whoops. 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:19.440 I mean, Ben don't give a shit. 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:20.880 Exactly what I thought. 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:23.519 Okay, and break and back in. 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:25.359 Okay, what's this now? 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:26.640 We're reading in the dark? 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:27.359 Who's knocking? 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:29.119 Oh, Said is gonna kill you. 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:30.480 Oh, and I thought so. 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:32.000 Oh Said's got really nice hair. 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:34.000 Curly or straight, it is always Ballowin. 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:36.319 Um, isn't that where Hurley is? 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:38.880 I always wonder how people play chess against themselves. 00:21:39.039 --> 00:21:40.319 I'm sorry, what are you doing, Said? 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:41.839 Said, actually, like what are you doing? 00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:43.839 Who the fuck is this Bentham person? 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:45.599 Okay, so who is this man? 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:46.720 And who's watching you? 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:48.720 So this wasn't a Ben kill. 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:50.400 Where is Safe Said? 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:51.359 I'm so confused. 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:54.319

I mean, I like that we trust him, but I am sketched out a little bit. 00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:55.359 God, that is chilling. 00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:56.319 But also, hi Mr. 00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:56.720 Echo. 00:21:57.359 --> 00:21:58.799 Okay, well exactly, that's not great. 00:21:58.880 --> 00:21:59.759 Is anyone gonna jump? 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:01.759 Oh, and they found the boat. 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:02.559 Okay, fun. 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:05.039 Okay, so they're good except for the whole C4 thing. 00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:07.200 But we have Sain now, so maybe he can help. 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:09.119 I mean, yeah, I figured he wouldn't care. 00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:10.319 Kimi doesn't care either. 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:11.599 Oh man, Kimi did. 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:12.960 Everyone off the boat. 00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:14.319 Everybody get off the boat. 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:15.440 Jin, what are you doing? 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:16.319 Why are you staying? 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:18.160 Ooh, someone's gonna be mad at you. 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:20.160 Desi's like, yep, I'm a bounce. 00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:21.119 Oh, nope. 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.279 And Faraday's on the way there too. 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:23.519 Wait. 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:27.119 Jax just yelling orders at Lapidas like he has so many options. 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:28.640 Okay, duct tape. 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:29.599 Okay, always works. 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:31.839 Also, you're not all gonna fit on the chopper. 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:34.319 Um, do you have a few more minutes though? 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:35.759 And then from then on? 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:37.599 Okay, Michael, good reminding. 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:39.200 I'm sorry, who gets to go on the chopper? 00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:40.480 The people that came back on it? 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:43.920 Wait, does Jin not know how to fig how to get back up to the deck? 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:44.960 Oh, he's coming. 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:45.359 Come on. 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:46.240 Jinn, run. 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:46.960 Run? 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:48.559 Run some more. 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:49.599 Okay, just jump off. 00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:51.279 Jump Jinn, jump off. 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:52.319 Jump off. 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:54.480 Jump oh, hey Christian. 00:22:54.559 --> 00:22:55.119 Oh shit. 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:56.240 Oh well, that's horrible. 00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:57.759 Wait, who's where's the baby? 00:22:57.839 --> 00:22:58.480 Who's holding it? 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:00.079 Wait, why is she in London now? 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:01.440 Oh, it's C dub. 00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:04.720 I doubt C Dub would be wandering out without security. 00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:07.119 Man, Sun off Island is scary. 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:10.160 I mean she could have easily stabbed him if that's his bodyguard back there. 00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:11.599 Oh, Kate's got the baby. 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:12.880 Oh, poor son, this is awful. 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:14.880 What the fuck else was he gonna do, Jack? 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:16.400 Um, what are you talking about, Ben? 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:17.279 What's John gonna do? 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:18.000 What's happening now? 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:19.680 Sorry, why are we ducking? 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:21.599 Okay, we did bad things. 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:24.559 Is it kind of like putting aluminum in the microave? 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:26.480 Wait, why are you changing, Ben? 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:28.319 Darius God is Oh dear. 00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:29.839 So he's got his shirt blown off. 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:30.799 God, he's hot. 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:32.000 Is Juliet okay? 00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:33.039 Oh no, she's drunk. 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:33.359 Okay. 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:34.640 Well, that makes more sense. 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:36.240 I'm sorry, where are you going, Ben? 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:37.119 What consequences? 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:39.680 I'm sorry, why don't you just tell John how to do it then? 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.480 Okay, so John is replacing Ben. 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:43.839 Oh, they're shaking hands. 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:44.240 Okay. 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:46.319 Gentlemen's agreement, maybe? 00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:48.160 I mean, Ben, no, you're not. 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:50.000 But Adio Spuchacho. 00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:53.119 I mean, hey, that's the liar guy's puffy coat, fun. 00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:56.240 They have a small village, but what happened to the kids? 00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:58.079 So, like, John lives here now? 00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:00.640 He's like the new leader, and he's like, hell yeah. 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:02.319 Okay, cool, I guess. 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:04.720 I'm sorry, there's a cave behind the vault and a hole? 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:05.680 Oh, down we go. 00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:07.519 Do you have mittens and a tope, maybe? 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:09.359 Oh, uh is that glass or ice? 00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:11.599 I'm sorry, it's like winter under here? 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:12.799 God, that's gotta hurt. 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:17.599 I'm sorry, glass covered between jungle weather and cold weather? 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:19.440 Oh, it's okay, it's a wheel. 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:21.759 Are you strong enough to push it with your arm? 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.200 Oh, maybe no, it's frozen. 00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:24.559 Maybe like kick off the wall? 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:25.200 There you go. 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:26.319 Push, push, what's that noise? 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:27.680 Wait, was Des with them? 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:28.319 Did we know this? 00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:29.359 And you got it. 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:30.079 Just keep pushing. 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:32.319 I'm not sure what you're doing, but you got it. 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:36.000 God, his hands would be hella frozen if that's that cold. 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:37.599 Oh,

he's crying, but why? 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:39.599 Everyone shield your eyes, it's very bright. 00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:40.640 Wait, it's wait. 00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:41.119 What? 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:41.920 What happened? 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:43.440 Is it invisible? 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:45.920 Did we misplace it? 00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:47.599 Can you misplace an island? 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:49.440 Oh no, no more gas. 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:50.480 What are we gonna do? 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:52.400 The baby though. 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:54.559 I mean, is there a safety raft? 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:55.440 Do we just jump off? 00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:56.400 Oh, there is a raft. 00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:56.640 Okay. 00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:58.079 Sayed for the win. 00:24:58.799 --> 00:24:59.759 God, that's super violent. 00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:01.200 Someone tell Aaron to hold his breath. 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:02.160 Who is yelling? 00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:03.599 Oh my god, is Dez dead? 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:05.279 That baby would be pissed. 00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:06.400 Oh, he hit his head. 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:07.200 Okay, he's alive. 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:07.759 It's okay. 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:08.640 Everyone's alive. 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:09.279 Cool, cool. 00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:10.880 So, like, what's happening now? 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:12.240 Like, where are we going? 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:16.079 Are you okay with your whole, you know, appendectomy yesterday? 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:18.000 Okay, it's evening. 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:19.839 What who's calling so late? 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:21.039 I'm sorry, what's that? 00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:21.680 What is happening? 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:22.880 Is there someone in your house? 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:26.240 God, girl, you made so much noise trying to get your gun. 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:27.839 Oh, but your hair looks really nice. 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:29.039 Wait, what is happening right now? 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:29.680 Oh shit. 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:30.880 Oh, it's Claire. 00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:31.519 She's back. 00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:32.559 Oh, you're fucked now. 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:33.039 Wait, what? 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:34.319 Oh, it was just a dream. 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:37.359 Okay, so what's with the creepy phone call with the creepy voice? 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:39.119 I'm sorry, why are you sorry? 00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:41.039 Is it because you're pretending to be his mom? 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:44.400 Wait, how are we gonna feed this baby on this like raft? 00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:46.240 Where did we move it to though? 00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:47.039 Like, where is it? 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:48.880 You know, fair point, Hurley. 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:50.400 I'm sorry, what's up, Lapitas? 00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:51.200 Where's a boat? 00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:53.519 You know, I'm weary of boats when we're on rafts. 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:55.119 We all remember what happened to Michael. 00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:56.319 Wait, are they saved? 00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:57.839 Wait, why are you gonna have to lie? 00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:00.079 How are we gonna explain Lapitas and Diz? 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:04.799 I don't know what's gonna happen, Jack, but seriously, how are we gonna explain the two people who weren't on the plane? 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:06.480 Oh my god, is this how they're saved? 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:08.480 But wait, again, what about Lapitas and Den? 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:12.160 Because clearly Des, because they're clearing that Oceanic Six, but then like, what are they? 00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:13.680 Wait, wait, wait. 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:14.480 Ms. 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:16.880 Widmore, wait, is it Penn? 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:18.720 Oh my god, it's Penn. 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:20.079 And it's Penn and Dez. 00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:23.359 And oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, this can't be real, oh my god. 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:25.599 Those precious beans, they're so precious, seriously. 00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:28.240 Also, these people have so much money, it is crazy. 00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:30.400 Um, okay, this cute little introduction. 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:32.799 Oh, okay, so Penn's in on it then. 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:35.519 We're all still wearing the same outfits and we're still bloody. 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:37.440 Um, they staged it. 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:38.640 Okay, that makes more sense. 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:45.680 And then Lapita stays with Des and Penny, and the others go, okay, do we always just have broken pieces of wood on boats? 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.799 God, this must be so surreal and fucked up for them, though. 00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:51.279 Oh, Jack, you were driving dangerous like this. 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:52.240 What are you doing now? 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:54.480 Of course, this fuck's the middle of the night, man. 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:56.720 Uh, please don't break into a funeral parlor. 00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:57.440 Please don't. 00:26:57.759 --> 00:26:58.400 And you're gonna. 00:26:58.960 --> 00:26:59.839 So that is a coffin. 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:00.799 If we could just not. 00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:03.599 I'm sorry, who is this and why are you freaking out? 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:05.119 Are we finally gonna meet this guy? 00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:06.480 It's kind of mess up. 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:08.720 I'm sorry, absolutely fucking not, Ben. 00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:10.480 Of course you're never gonna be right, Ben. 00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:12.000 He looks good off island though. 00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:12.720 Wait, what happens? 00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:13.839 Can we get a little hindi hind? 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:15.200 Okay, how does that work? 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:17.759 Why do you have to come back to fix the bad things? 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:18.720 Like, what bad things? 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:20.079 Like, that's fucked up, Jack. 00:27:20.240 -->

00:27:21.279 Jack's messed up. 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:23.759 I'm sorry, we we know not to trust Ben, right? 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:24.240 Ever? 00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:25.680 I'm sorry, why? 00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:26.319 Why do we have to? 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:27.599 Sorry, why do you have to go back? 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:29.279 Let's again, let's just not trust Ben. 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:30.720 Why does Ben know anything? 00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:31.599 Let's just not. 00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:32.640 Jack, Jack, don't. 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:34.000 Oh god, and you're nodding. 00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:35.440 I'm sorry, who was him? 00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:36.640 Um, I'm sorry. 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:37.920 I have questions. 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:38.559 Yeah. 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:45.920 Yeah. 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:46.880 I have questions. 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:48.240 I laughed so many times. 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:49.200 You were very funny. 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:50.079 You are very funny. 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:50.720 Oh, thank you. 00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:53.039 It's a this was a this was a trick. 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:53.920 It was a ride. 00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:54.640 It was a ride. 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:58.319 Yeah, extra long because it was two hours or 80 minutes. 00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:00.400 And there were some jumps. 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:06.799 Like I screamed when Ben was in the Ben was in the video. 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:07.759 She literally screamed. 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:08.960 I was like, did you? 00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.920 I don't want to like jump around too much, but jump. 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:13.920 We haven't jumped on anything up. 00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:20.960 Did you before you thought it was before you saw that it was Locke, did you think it was Ben? 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:22.480 Is that part of why you screamed? 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:24.559 Because or was it just a jump scare? 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:26.240 I didn't think it was surprised. 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:32.799 I honestly like I don't like the name didn't like ring any bells for me. 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:33.119 No. 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:35.279 So I thought it was gonna be like, I don't know who I was. 00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:36.319 I was just like, I don't know. 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.240 But then Ben showed up and was like, fuck. 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:42.400 So I I think originally I thought it would be Ben. 00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:43.359 Oh, interesting. 00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:45.440 And then I remember being like them. 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:47.039 No, oh no. 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:48.400 That makes sense. 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:58.960 But no, I think it just made sense that it was like someone in their life that would be connected to all of them that would make them like uncomfortable and try to be manipulating them even from beyond the grave. 00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:00.720 Seemed very Ben like. 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:08.079 And so then when you

see Ben, it's like for those like 30 seconds a minute before you a couple minutes, I guess. 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:10.079 I was like, well, who the fuck's in there? 00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:10.400 Yeah. 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:13.279 And so I wondered if that's what you were thinking, or you just weren't thinking. 00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:14.400 You didn't think it was anybody. 00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:27.519 No, I was just like, it's like I because at this point, like I don't know what's happened really, like off island, that like we're all so upset and like I thought we would see. 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:32.079 I'm getting confused with season five, where we would see how Locke died. 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.279 I thought that was this episode, but I guess that's not till next season. 00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:39.039 No, I believe that's the episode entitled The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham. 00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:40.720 Oh, yeah, that would make sense. 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:41.920 But I could be wrong. 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:43.680 No, for sure that's it. 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:45.759 Yeah, that's what we're talking about. 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:49.519 So I remember, I can remember how he dies. 00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:50.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:54.079 But I did not remember that that's who it is. 00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:55.359 Yeah, no, that's fair. 00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:56.319 It's it's all over the place. 00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:57.599 It is, yeah, exactly. 00:29:57.920 --> 00:29:58.799 Yeah, it's a doozy. 00:29:58.960 --> 00:29:59.440 It's a doozy. 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:00.000 It's a doozy. 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:01.359 She a long one. 00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:01.839 Yeah. 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:03.279 That's what she says. 00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:05.279 I liked uh no, very good. 00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:06.160 Recap. 00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:07.519 Recapsulation. 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:08.960 What does recap stand for? 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:11.359 Is it stand for anything? 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:12.400 Is it short for something? 00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:13.680 Recap? 00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:14.559 Recaptured? 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:15.200 Recap. 00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:17.279 Is it short for something? 00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:18.160 Recap. 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:19.519 It feels like it is. 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:21.119 Recapitulation. 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:23.519 Recap. 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:24.799 Recapitulate. 00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:29.200 Uh yeah. 00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.000 It means it's short for recapitulate. 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:33.119 Wow. 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.599 Recapitulate means to go through main points again or state of summary. 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:38.880 Okay, cool. 00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:39.519 Good to know. 00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:40.559 I feel so smart. 00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:41.680 Yeah, you are smart. 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:43.119 Smarticle, particle. 00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:44.880 So, where should we begin? 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:46.640 Because a lot that happens. 00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:47.759 Do we want to go linear? 00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:49.200 Do we want to go moment? 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:51.359 I mean, I think we can try linear. 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.519 I think we might get lost, but I just really want to make sure we talk about a very important part. 00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:59.039 But um more towards the beginning. 00:30:59.359 --> 00:30:59.839 Which part? 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:00.400 Wait, what? 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:04.640 I just when Ben comes back. 00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:06.480 He's like, couldn't find the air and three of them. 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:08.079 I don't know what they look like. 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:10.160 I was like, that is so funny. 00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:11.039 Why is it? 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:16.160 Specifically because we spent so long last week talking about how we wouldn't be able to do that. 00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:23.440 I thought that was a very cute little like tongue-in-cheek kind of even like I don't know what they look like. 00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:25.759 It's almost like they're like so casual, too. 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:26.480 I love that too. 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:28.559 I don't even know if I'm saying it right now. 00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:29.599 And anthuriums. 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:30.559 Antheriums. 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:31.519 I don't know what they look like. 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:34.000 Clearly, some kind of flower, right? 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.519 Yeah, but that makes sense because when I've kind of forgot where we left off with them. 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:43.599 And so when we come upon them, like Locke, and he's just kind of looking through the flower bushes. 00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:44.640 I'm like, what is he doing? 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:47.279 And then I remember when he said he's like, couldn't find the anthuriums. 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:48.559 It's like, oh yeah. 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:49.759 No one could bet. 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:50.160 Yeah. 00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.160 Like I thought they were white and then they're like red or something. 00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:58.799 I thought he said white flower in that last episode. 00:31:59.039 --> 00:31:59.839 Who fucking knows? 00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:02.000 I think he said anthurium, but I just don't know what the colour is. 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.519 No, I know, but like, oh no, we were like, why couldn't you just say like what color the fucking? 00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:06.799 Yeah, like make it simple. 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.119 Turn right at the white flowers, Benjamin. 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:10.400 Yeah, like my god. 00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:16.480 Um, so if we're gonna start at the beginning, it's Jack and Kate from the finale of last season. 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:18.000 It's a continuation of that scene. 00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:20.000 Okay, okay, okay, okay. 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:28.480 Yeah, so it's like Kate slams

on the brakes and then comes back to be like, the fuck you talking about, basically. 00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:28.960 Yeah. 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:30.720 And I mean, like, fair enough. 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.599 Like, fair enough. 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:34.640 They're messy. 00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:36.400 Yeah, they bring up Jeremy Bentham. 00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:38.720 I think that's like the first time we hear that name. 00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:45.680 It is because I think in the original show, she does show they talk about someone being dead. 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:51.200 Yeah, he shows the the obit or the funeral notice or whatever, but I don't think you see the name. 00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:51.519 No. 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:52.240 So that's the same thing. 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:58.000 So you knew there was something, someone died, and I think that's part of what you're trying to figure out throughout the season, right? 00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:01.359 I have so many questions, but you don't know that it's Jeremy Bend them. 00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:03.200 No, yeah, no. 00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:04.400 Is that your question? 00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:04.880 No. 00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:05.839 What's the other question? 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.519 Well, I have so I'll just script them throughout the episode, yeah. 00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:10.799 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:22.799 And then so this kind of sets up the like on on I or off island, and we see throughout the remainder of the episode that basically like all the oceanic six have not really done so hot. 00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:26.079 No, they're no, you know, and so kind of a predicament. 00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:30.640 But the pull to go back that Jack is talking about is real and live. 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.960 Yes, yes, but nobody wants to except Jack, which is interesting. 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:39.920 I know, and and so it's funny because like how is he getting them to all do this? 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:54.720 Like, I know at the end Ben says he's got some ideas or whatever, but like truly, like I I thought we'd be more in a position to understand why everyone wanted to go back by the end of this episode, and I really only feel that we know why Jack, well, Jack's. 00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:56.400 We don't even really know why. 00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.920 Well, I guess because Jerry, he met Locke, now we know. 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:03.759 Yeah, but like we don't really know what he said other than yep, bad things. 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:05.200 Bad things happened, yeah. 00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:05.680 Right? 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.440 Like, so it's not super clear, I guess. 00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:20.239 No, and like why it was so convincing, and then Kate's kind of the seeds were planted a little bit on hers, whereas that she's like having a lot of guilt about Claire and Claire being left behind and not having Aaron have a dream, yeah. 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:21.760 That weird dream. 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:33.760 Um, so but yeah, that's kind of where we're at, is like clearly Kate isn't no way, none, whatever's convinced Jack, which he seems to think she should also be aware of, yeah, is not convincing to her. 00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:35.440 And she's telling him to take a hike still. 00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:39.199 And and she said Jeremy Bentham came and talked to her as well, and she's just like, I don't care. 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:42.320 Yeah, she's like, I just she wants to be with Aaron, she wants to be whatever. 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:43.519 Exactly. 00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:44.639 So it's that. 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:50.719 Then we see Jack and Sawyer on Island come across um Hurley. 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:52.320 Hurley, and it's cute. 00:34:52.559 --> 00:35:00.960 Question though, for you guys here why I felt I felt, sorry, that Hurley and Jack's response to each other was a bit clipped. 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:02.960 Yeah, I thought that was weird. 00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:10.719 Um, I think because um when they left, Jack was very hurt that Hurley chose Locke. 00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:28.719 Yeah and I think Hurley, the their last interaction was basically Hurley kind of telling Jack he's wrong because he's listening to Charlie and saying, I'm going with Locke because Charlie warned us against these people, which he didn't actually do, but that was his interpretation. 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:29.920 So they were kind of at odds. 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.880 I think there was just some hurt between them, and so it was a little awkward. 00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:34.400 Yeah, just awkwardness. 00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:41.760 Yeah, I just I guess maybe what I picked up on was it seemed like Hurley was more upset with or like had a lot of trepidation with Jack and not vice versa. 00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:49.199 And I would have thought of the other way around that like Hurley would be excited to see him again, and then maybe Jack would be a little bit like distant, but Hurley seemed a little distant. 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.039 I think he would just be like awkward, yeah. 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:51.840 Yeah, that's true. 00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:59.360 I think I think that's more what it is, is like I I think he's just kind of like oh because he was wanting to go back to the beach a couple episodes ago. 00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:08.480 Yeah, yeah, he wanted to go back, and I think maybe if they even if they had met at the beach, it would have been a little bit uncomfortable considering he did choose to not go be uncomfortable for sure. 00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:18.960 And Jack's now coming to realize some of the things that he was wrong about as well, and he's probably like yeah, maybe he should have taken quote unquote Charlie's warning a little more seriously, right? 00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:20.639 So all that kind of stuff. 00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:29.039 So Locke tries to like convince Jack that he like I thought that was very

interesting when Jack's just kind of like K-by. 00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.599 Like, I don't can't give a shit what you have to say. 00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:36.559 Yeah, he was just ready to walk away and then Locke convinced him to kind of like hear him out a bit. 00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:37.679 Well, Hurley kind of did, right? 00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:42.239 Because Hurley said those the plane people or the helicopter people are not good. 00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:44.639 Yeah, because they're going back to the helicopter. 00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:46.400 Um, I did write this down. 00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:47.039 Where is it? 00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:51.199 Locke's I wrote it on here, lie to them, Jack, but the full quote I love. 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:53.760 Did I write this down? 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:54.159 Yeah. 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:55.360 Lie to them, Jack. 00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:59.519 If you do it half as well as you lie to yourself, they'll believe you. 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:01.519 Shots fired. 00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:02.400 That was good. 00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:03.599 I mean. 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:11.920 Well, that was because when when he I mean, to be fair, like when he does finally agree to talk to him, right? 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:15.280 And he's like, Locke's like, I wish I would like you to stay. 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:20.480 And even as he said it, just before Jack said it, I was like, you'd like him to stay? 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:22.239 Like, that's what's that? 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:24.079 And then he's like, You'd like me to stay. 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:24.480 Okay. 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.760 Like it's just a Locke talks to him in a ridiculous way. 00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:28.320 Agreed. 00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:30.239 And so I feel no truly. 00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:33.280 And I feel like Jack's back is always a little bit up. 00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:34.079 For sure. 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:40.480 And then, but even like, not even just because of everything that they've experienced, but because John talks to him in such a ridiculous way. 00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:49.440 And to me, that was kind of like that's why Jack always seems to be like not being upfront with Locke and stuff. 00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.320 And then these quotes come out, and that one was actually pretty good. 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:54.079 It was good, but I agree. 00:37:54.159 --> 00:38:04.800 Like the way Locke talks to Jack is not in tune with their relationship, or like even just how you would talk when you're trying to have a real conversation with someone. 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:06.480 I'd like you to stay. 00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:11.679 Like, I you're not like it's not like he's leaving before dinner at his house, right? 00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:12.559 Is that what you were saying? 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:13.199 Yeah. 00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:14.960 I laughed at that point too. 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:31.360 It's you're gonna have to be a bit I think that's what drives me

nuts about Locke, is like I understand he's supposed to be philosophical and thoughtful and like all these kind of like serious things, but like just say the words that are actually going to help convince people to do stuff. 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:32.239 Like, well, exactly. 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:41.840 I I'd like you to stay after you know his entire reason for being has been to get these people off this island is not going to convince him. 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:45.360 Say, hey, I watched all of this destruction. 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:49.039 And like Jack says, like, you got half of our people killed. 00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:54.800 Yeah, you like stabbed a woman in the back, and he's like, Well, you put a gun to my head and pulled the trigger. 00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:56.639 I thought we could let bygones be bygones. 00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:04.400 Like, that is not convincing, and it's also not even like Locke killed other people and had other people kill Jack tried to kill him. 00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:08.400 It's not like Jack's gone, his actions have caused other people to die. 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:08.960 I don't think. 00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:09.679 Am I wrong? 00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.719 No, and I think that I would be so frustrated if I was Jack. 00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:35.039 Like, I get like literally frustrated just watching it, putting myself in that position because everything that Locke has done, and the amount of times he just like reduces it to this like one little witty line of like, well, Jack, we have to be reasonable and move forward, as if Jack is being the unreasonable one, is so frustrating to watch. 00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:42.000 Yeah, I would Locke should if Locke really needs something from Jack, he should be on his knees begging for it right now. 00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:42.559 Exactly. 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:47.119 Like he shouldn't be like, I'd love you to stay and bygones be bygones, and we're need we're in a pickle. 00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:49.840 Like it should be like, Jack, this is really fucked up. 00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.079 Here are the real reasons why. 00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:52.719 Yeah. 00:39:52.960 --> 00:40:01.760 Like, instead of continuing to like talk down to him and Yeah, just be real and like genuine and talk to him like an equal at the very least. 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:05.280 But he does talk down to him, he treats him like he still knows better. 00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:15.519 Because he still thinks he knows better, he still thinks he's got some magical connection with the island, which in fairness he does to some degree, but it doesn't elevate him above everybody else, and that's how he acts. 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:20.559 And it's it's completely reasonable for Jack to not trust this man 100%. 00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:25.440 And I hate when Locke makes it seem like oh Jack, that's all in the past. 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:27.199 Like we're we're moving forward now. 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.519 It's like,

buddy, have you seen what you've done? 00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:31.440 It also wasn't that long ago. 00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:39.760 Like, it's just but I feel like if someone talked to Locke like this, he'd be like, absolutely, like, and I think that's part of the problem. 00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:48.320 Is like Locke talks the way he feels like people should talk to him if it was like reversed. 00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:50.400 Yeah, and because he doesn't meet people in their own. 00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:55.119 Yeah, like you gotta read the room, yeah, and like know your audience. 00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:56.559 Know your audience, yeah. 00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:01.119 But it does plant the seed, Locke saying you gotta lie to them. 00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:04.400 And obviously, Jack takes that to heart later on, as we'll talk about. 00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:06.639 So it's just like, yeah. 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:15.840 I mean, so John is capable of still getting in piercing that, yeah, but it would be way more effective if he was not a douchebag about it. 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:16.400 Yeah, exactly. 00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:20.480 It was effective because he explained why he had to do it, yeah, right? 00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:28.719 Like Jack's very much like a logical thinker, so this kind of like open-ended discussion like isn't gonna get you anywhere. 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:34.639 But when you explain something and it makes sense to him, he's like, Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. 00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:36.000 Exactly. 00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:43.760 So they parked, and then we get the I guess they're back at the chopper and um Kimi's dragon Ben back. 00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:44.239 That's what it is. 00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:45.360 Okay, I have a question about them. 00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:52.400 Okay, so didn't Daniel say that they were gonna do the secondary protocol? 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:53.199 Yeah. 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:54.719 By going to the orchard. 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:55.280 Orchid. 00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:55.679 Orchid. 00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:57.280 Orchid, whatever, orchid. 00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:57.519 Okay. 00:41:57.679 --> 00:41:59.440 Um, by going to the orchid, right? 00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:01.119 But like, did they actually do that? 00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:02.800 Or was the second, you know what I mean? 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:04.239 Like they didn't do anything there. 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.800 I I don't I don't know if he knows. 00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:11.039 I I wonder if Daniel knows that the secondary protocol is moving the island. 00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:12.320 Oh, I wonder. 00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:18.960 But if he knows that and he thinks that that's what they're gonna go there to do, like what were they going there for then? 00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:20.159 To get Ben. 00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.079 But like that's what Kimi was going for. 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:23.679 So that's why I think Daniel. 00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:31.199 Yeah, yeah, they can

yeah, they do, because they all know that, like that would be the last like Ben says that's the last resort. 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:36.480 Moving the island is a so Keamy and them assume that that's what Ben's gonna do, and that's why they go there. 00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:38.800 Yes, and Faraday needs to get everyone. 00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:44.880 That's why he tells Juliet, we gotta go now, because he thinks in 10 minutes there's gonna be no island. 00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:46.000 Yeah, okay, right? 00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:47.840 Because I was like they'll be away from the boat. 00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:48.880 So that is a second. 00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.920 If they're gonna do the secondary protocol, but then they go there and then they leave. 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:52.719 Like, did they do it? 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:53.760 But then that makes more sense. 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:55.679 Okay, that's why he wanted to get as many people off as he could. 00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:59.679 No, no, I did that part, but like I just didn't get if that's what they were gonna do. 00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:02.159 Yeah, and then they get there and then they don't do that. 00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:10.559 I'm like, so yeah, because a few episodes ago or whenever it was, Daniel made it seem like Heamy was initiating the secondary protocol. 00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:11.920 Yeah, that's what it sounded like. 00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:16.719 But I think you're right, Amanda, is in that he knows the secondary protocol is the island moving. 00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:18.239 Yeah, and so it was just probably. 00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:27.519 So I think it means more like Heamy is aware that the secondary protocol is going to be, so they're going after him, and Ben's trying to get away from him, so Ben's gonna do it. 00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:29.199 Yeah, no, that makes more sense. 00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:31.920 Yeah, and then who knows what will happen, right? 00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:36.480 Which is crazy, but so they're back at the chopper. 00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:42.079 Um, we get Kate running towards them. 00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:42.719 Yeah. 00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.039 Which is a good little ruse, I guess. 00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:45.519 Yeah. 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:46.559 I mean, it worked. 00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:47.360 What's it? 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:47.840 It was good. 00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:48.320 It was good. 00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:49.360 I liked it a lot, actually. 00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:50.639 It was it was quite intense. 00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:52.239 Richard should have shot him in the head. 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:58.320 Richard Oh he's very clearly wearing a shoot him in the neck or something, you know? 00:43:58.559 --> 00:43:59.760 Like you always know. 00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:01.840 When there's no blood. 00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:02.639 Yeah. 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:05.440 And he got shot in the chest in a TV show or the back. 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:05.679 Yeah. 00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:06.800 It's a bulletproof vest. 00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:08.719 Dude shot him directly in the vest. 00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:12.079 And it was just-weren't they at that area for a long time? 00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:13.440 Did no one notice Kimi? 00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:14.960 Like, that's what I'm saying. 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:16.559 He looked dead. 00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.039 Because at one point, Sawyer like kicks one of them. 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:20.960 And I'm like, oh, Kimi's just like that. 00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:24.079 And then like, which one of those did you kill Freckles or whatever, right? 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:28.159 So like I'm guessing he just bless you, was like lying there. 00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.519 Then they flew off, and then he was like, and off we go. 00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:33.039 Oh, I guess, yeah, maybe he waited. 00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:33.840 That makes sense, actually. 00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:35.679 He acted very well. 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:36.159 Yeah. 00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:37.679 I mean, no one checked his pulse. 00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:39.599 They just looked down and were like, he's done. 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:50.960 I mean, in most movies and TV shows, there's like because we know how accurate and truthful TV show movies are, but they always are all like in shock or dazed because they're always that half second where they think they're dead. 00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:52.880 And they're like, oh, you were wearing a bulletproof vest. 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:53.039 Yeah. 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:53.519 Right. 00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:56.639 So, like, if we believe that I think it still is painful. 00:44:56.719 --> 00:45:01.039 Like, it's very he did get like attacked in other ways too. 00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:02.960 Okay, would you do it? 00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:05.599 Would you wear a bulletproof vest and get shot? 00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:06.880 Like shredded. 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:07.840 I was like, I would too. 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:08.800 Yeah, say I would. 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:09.920 That's a lot of pain. 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:11.199 It's very painful, you guys. 00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:11.679 Yeah, I know. 00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:15.199 I'm not saying like shoot me in the chest from like an inch, but like I would like to try it. 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:15.920 I just want to see. 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:16.239 Yeah. 00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:19.440 Someone shot me in the leg with a um paintball gun once. 00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:20.559 Oh, that's nothing. 00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:22.960 Oh, but it was from this close. 00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:25.440 And the welt on my leg. 00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:26.960 Yeah, we used to paintball all the time. 00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.400 Yeah, like who this is this was an older gentleman. 00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:32.159 I should probably I was 16. 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:38.400 Oh, and he walked up to me and then shot me in the leg less than like the gun was less than an inch from my thigh.

00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:41.039 Oh, that's that's like not okay. 00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:42.880 No, we'd be in jail. 00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:44.960 I hit the ground and I was like, well, this is terrible. 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.559 Anyway, um But yeah, if that was like a a carnival attraction. 00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:49.440 Oh, I would try it. 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:50.639 Maybe not at a carnival. 00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:53.840 Like maybe if the police offered this as like a way to make extra funds. 00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:55.280 Yeah, that'd be fun. 00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:59.440 Like maybe if I had also like a bulletproof helmet. 00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:01.599 Yeah, you gotta trust their age. 00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:08.480 Oh, yeah, that's that's or like it's like a cement wall, and there's a little hole in the wall where your vest is. 00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:08.880 Yeah. 00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:10.960 So like if they miss, it's just hitting the seat. 00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:15.519 I think if anything, they might recreate the sensation with like sensors or something. 00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:16.880 I want the real thing. 00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:18.559 You know what they might just shoot blanks. 00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:20.000 Well, then you can feel it. 00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:21.440 They don't hit. 00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:25.360 Maybe they'll they'll do the ones with the big rubber bullets. 00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.320 Yeah, like something that's not gonna kill you, perhaps. 00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.599 I mean, getting hit in the head with the rubber bullet at the wrong angle could kill you. 00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:33.679 I don't want to no, but with cement blocks. 00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:34.480 Oh yeah. 00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:35.119 No, no, I can't. 00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:36.960 Okay, guys. 00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:38.480 So um anyway, Kimi. 00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:44.000 That scene was very cool though, and I thought the like you said, you want to go train in Otherton, and I agree. 00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.239 Because what are they doing on that? 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:47.119 My God. 00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:49.840 But that was very I did think it was quite good. 00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:56.880 I it wasn't overly convincing because, like you said, like for the audience, because it's like last time we saw them, but maybe Kate would be running from them. 00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:57.440 I don't know, right? 00:46:57.599 --> 00:46:58.719 We didn't see them. 00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:07.360 Yeah, I mean, I couldn't remember exactly how it goes on, but it it was pretty clear right away that she was like working for Ben or there to help him. 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.480 And Said and Kimi's fight was insane. 00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:11.119 Oh, that was high. 00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:12.480 That was insane. 00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:13.920 I like wrote a note about that. 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:15.519 I was like, I wrote something about this fight. 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:15.920 What was it? 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:19.280 And I looked and I was like, oh yeah, Said and Kimi, that was very well done. 00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.000 Said's back, I know, and it was very cool. 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:26.159 Like the maneuvers were cool, and it seemed like realistic. 00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:30.079 Again, I use quotations, but like for people who could actually fight, it seemed somewhat realistic. 00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:49.920 Well, yeah, because like they were it's because sometimes you see people fight like 30 people against like one, and you're like, okay, but this is like two people who have been fighting like forever, evenly matched against each other, and like they like stabbing each other and just they're in their places for I think they were they were serious, like it was very cool. 00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:51.440 And what do we think about the deal? 00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:57.519 So uh, I guess Richard made a deal with Saeed and Kate that they help get Ben back, they get off the island. 00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:00.719 And Ben is very like, all right, that's the deal. 00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:10.960 Well, I think at this point that Ben doesn't really care about any of them anymore because he knows he's giving up the island anyway, right? 00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:12.239 So he doesn't really care. 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:13.199 So whatever. 00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:20.800 And I would imagine like Well, real like you do find out a little bit later, like kind of why Ben was so intent on keeping them all there. 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:29.840 And I think at this point we are to assume that he knows at this point that none of them really matter anymore. 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:30.400 Yeah. 00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:31.119 Right. 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:37.519 So I think, and also it's Ben and he's selfish and he's probably just like it's not my fucking responsibility anymore. 00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:39.679 You guys do whatever you want, I don't care, I'm I'm done. 00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:39.920 Right. 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:41.679 Yeah, that's I kind of figured that it was something. 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:47.119 And it it's interesting that Richard is in a position also to make deals, right? 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:49.119 So like Ben and Ben respects it. 00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:55.920 So Richard, it sort of like puts Richard as a not necessarily an equal to Ben, but like Ben's the leader. 00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:58.800 But Richard is also has certain privileges as well. 00:48:58.880 --> 00:48:59.519 That not everybody else. 00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:00.400 Yeah. 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:08.960 I I would I would have there was a time where I intellectualized it that Richard was kind of like the second in command of the island. 00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:09.440 Yeah. 00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:16.880 Um which is is hard because I really like Richard, and I think to be in charge of the island you have to be kind of a bit of a dick. 00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:22.320 And so I

don't love the idea that he's a bit of a dick, but I think he is like Well, we saw him when he was with young Locke. 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:23.199 He was very short with him. 00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:26.719 Like I think he has a a sense of duty, yeah, right? 00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:27.199 Exactly. 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:28.880 So I think he's a good person to have. 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:34.480 He wants to protect the island as well, so he's making deals left, right, and center. 00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:35.360 So that was a good deal. 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:37.039 He's got beautiful eyes. 00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:38.480 Yeah. 00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:39.199 Beautiful eyes. 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:40.320 Oh yeah, it's gorgeous. 00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:45.440 Then we have the uh flash forward with Hurley with Waltz visit. 00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:50.000 Wasn't that sad when Waltz, like, no one came to see me? 00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:51.119 Like, oh, I know. 00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:52.639 How would they see him though? 00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.599 They could find they they could find him. 00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:58.000 They all got hundreds of millions of dollars. 00:49:58.719 --> 00:49:59.119 That's true. 00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:03.440 And uh Saeed's a freaking assassin. 00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:04.639 That's true. 00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:04.880 Right. 00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:05.920 They probably could have found him. 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:07.199 They could have found him, no problem. 00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:11.440 I doubt that they're using like high-tech things to like keep themselves hidden. 00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:16.159 Like Bruce Willis says at the end of Lucky Number Slevin when he finds Josh Hartnett at the end, right? 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:17.760 And Josh Hartman's like, How did you find me? 00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:20.639 And he's like, I'm world-class fucking assassin dipshit. 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:22.000 Like, that's how I found you. 00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:23.440 It's kind of like that. 00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:24.320 Never saw it. 00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:26.800 So he could have found any one of them. 00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:30.800 Could have been they have resources. 00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:35.679 Sun's got the Cashiola, and she's you know, find C dub like there's no tomorrow anyway. 00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:39.679 Sun is clearly disengaged from them. 00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:41.679 Now it makes a lot of sense now why. 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:43.440 Did I feel like I cut out? 00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:43.679 No. 00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:44.079 No. 00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:52.320 Um well, like again, jumping around, we'll get to that, but it makes a lot of sense now why no one else came to visit when she had the baby. 00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:52.960 Yeah. 00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:55.280 And so um But Hurley and Walt. 00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:56.079 Hurley and Walt. 00:50:56.320 --> 00:51:03.679 And it was sad because like they were buds, like you said, Teresa, on the island, and

and they're not hiding who they are, like their names are public. 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:06.639 Like, so Walt would have known they were back. 00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:08.159 And that must have been hard. 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:09.119 Yeah, it sucks. 00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:10.480 For a kid, yeah, exactly. 00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.199 A kid who's clearly had to live in isolation too, right? 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:16.400 Because that's the whole thing, is like him being back isn't allowed to be known. 00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:24.800 Yeah, so he does whatever he does, and then the only people who like he could have talked to about it don't want anything to do with him. 00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:25.360 Yeah. 00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:26.320 Oh, it's heartbreaking. 00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:29.039 He's got his grandmother who doesn't know anything, and his father dipped out. 00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:31.519 Yeah, and his grandmother's clearly very protective over him. 00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:31.679 Yeah. 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:33.840 Like a little, you're gonna hurt my boy. 00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:35.440 Gonna do anything crazy. 00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:36.719 Like no. 00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:37.119 Yeah. 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:50.239 So that was um a good scene because it also I guess like it doesn't really say something about like why they why they're lying. 00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:52.559 It's like we have to lie to the city. 00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.039 To protect everyone who was left behind, and then he says, including my dad. 00:51:56.079 --> 00:51:57.599 And he says, Yes, like your dad. 00:51:57.840 --> 00:51:58.000 Yeah. 00:51:58.159 --> 00:51:59.199 Ooh, awkward. 00:51:59.599 --> 00:51:59.920 Yeah. 00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.719 But I mean, it makes sense. 00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:06.719 Um, and I think it was nice to see Walt again. 00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:12.239 I I don't know that it added a ton, other than to like again kind of ask the question of why are you lying? 00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:12.960 Yeah, exactly. 00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.119 You know, and and Jack also explains that a little later on. 00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:18.559 It was nice to have a little cameo from Walt. 00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:27.679 Um, then very briefly uh the zodiac kind of back and forth begins, and we find out Charlotte wants to stay, Miles wants to stay. 00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:30.800 Julianette wants to make sure everyone gets off the island. 00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:38.960 I liked I was hoping you would do it when uh when Daniel Faraday says why. 00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:39.760 Do you remember? 00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:40.239 No. 00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:43.360 It's just like the most dramatic why, yes. 00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:45.920 Amanda, you do a very good Daniel Faraday impression. 00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.880 Yeah, he's he's like Juliet says something, or Charlotte's. 00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:51.360 I remember I was just like, that's funny. 00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:52.559 I love the way he talks. 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:56.400 Oh, I don't say he's so dramatic, but like also restrained. 00:52:56.639 --> 00:52:57.840 It's the strangest thing. 00:52:58.079 --> 00:52:58.400 I love him. 00:52:58.800 --> 00:52:59.440 I love him a lot too. 00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:00.239 Same. 00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:02.800 He's for sure my favorite of the boat people. 00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:10.880 So then it uh is not revealed, but it's sort of like hinted at that Charlotte might have been at to the island before. 00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:12.480 Yeah, she's got some sort of connection. 00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:14.639 Yeah, because Miles kind of messes with her a little bit, right? 00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:15.760 Surprise you want to know. 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:16.400 That was weird. 00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:17.760 Like, how does he know that? 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:18.880 He's such a strange person. 00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:20.239 I still don't know how I feel about him at this point. 00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:21.760 I don't understand his purpose. 00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:22.400 No one does. 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:23.360 Oh, you will. 00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:25.920 Okay, yeah, he has one for sure. 00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:26.559 Does he? 00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:28.719 Because right now it's unclear. 00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:29.440 Yeah. 00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:31.519 And then I think we get back to the orchid. 00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:32.880 And Ben showing up. 00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:33.360 Oh. 00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:34.880 And that scene again. 00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:38.960 I know we already talked about it, but hilarious when he's like, You didn't find the films. 00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:41.199 Earlier, this is now they're in there. 00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:41.760 Oh, right. 00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:43.679 And John's watching the video. 00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.960 Ben's throwing shit in the magic hatch. 00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:48.400 That was funny though. 00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:50.159 Like, there's a bit of comic relief here. 00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:52.639 I wrote one of my favorite, it's not really a favorite quote. 00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:56.639 I just thought it was so fucking stupid when John's like, is this the magic box? 00:53:56.960 --> 00:54:01.599 Even though Ben's like, last season or whatever was like, that was a metaphor, John. 00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:03.840 And John's still clinging on. 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:05.039 Maybe there's a magic box. 00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.039 No, this is not the magic box, John. 00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:14.639 But it is a good juxtaposition that he's watching the video and then Ben's doing exactly what the video says not to do. 00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:15.840 It was funny, yeah. 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:16.400 It was nice. 00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:19.840 And then like just gives a little bit more lore to the island, right? 00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:24.239 Like it's been a while since we've seen a Dharma video from from Pierre Chang. 00:54:24.559 -->

00:54:25.760 His name changed, or what was it? 00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:26.079 Hallow. 00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:27.280 Oh yeah, that's right. 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:27.920 His name changes. 00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:29.039 Hello axe or something. 00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:30.400 Every single time. 00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:32.239 Because that's the name on Ben's jacket. 00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:33.360 The jacket, yeah. 00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:47.679 So the video just kind of shows like clearly that they're doing some you know, and it's interesting because he says in the video at one point that there was like next to some, like, what is it like exotic material, he calls it or something like that? 00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:49.199 Negative exotic matter. 00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:53.280 Yeah, and it's like, what the f what is that negatively charged exotic matter? 00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:56.159 And I'm like, is it alien shit known too? 00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:56.719 Like, I don't know. 00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:57.920 Like it's it's very interesting. 00:54:58.880 --> 00:54:59.519 Exotic matter. 00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:00.480 Yeah, I don't want to know. 00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:02.480 Like, please, like, I don't want to know. 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:04.400 Like, what's exotic about it? 00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:12.400 And then the video doesn't work at a certain point, but clearly he was like, and you're gonna see that this bunny goes like into the future a little bit or whatever. 00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:13.679 A hundred milliseconds. 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:17.519 Yeah, it's almost like it disappears or one second, just say point one second. 00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:19.119 Stop like fancy. 00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:21.760 And then that's when the best quote from them happens. 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:26.079 And he says, Um, is this video saying what I think it is or talking about one of the things? 00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:28.559 And it's like, if you mean time traveling bunnies, then yes. 00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:29.599 Yeah, I love that. 00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:30.159 Yeah. 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:33.039 And it solidifies that the show deals with time travel. 00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:33.679 100%. 00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:34.079 Yeah. 00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:40.320 Like puts it out there if we didn't, if it wasn't like cemented for you yet, here it's like plain black and white. 00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:41.679 We're talking about time travel. 00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:44.320 Yeah, exactly. 00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.599 And don't worry if you were upset that there wasn't more of it. 00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:48.960 You're in for a good season. 00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:50.480 You're in for a good season five. 00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:57.920 Yeah, but it's very interesting because you two cannot be on this podcast anymore. 00:55:58.159 --> 00:55:58.320 What? 00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:01.280 I'm looking for two new coaches, coast co hosts. 00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:03.280 I don't know the I didn't know what the saying was.

00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:04.079 Strap in. 00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:04.639 Strap in. 00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:08.639 It's time to strap on Ben. 00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:10.159 Oh strap in. 00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:16.079 But I do just, before we move on from that very clue, I think it's interesting that to Ben, like, that's just meaningless too. 00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:18.079 He's like, Yeah, yeah, time travel, whatever, John. 00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:23.599 Like, I'm trying to blow up this thing so I can get behind the wall and go into the Arctic and move the island, okay? 00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:25.280 Do you think I give a shit about time travel? 00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:26.320 Exactly. 00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:26.960 Yeah. 00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:27.440 Yeah. 00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:29.360 And then the elevator comes around. 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:31.119 Oh, I knew it. 00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:31.519 Yeah. 00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:31.840 Yeah. 00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:33.119 Did you guys know it was Kimi? 00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:33.360 Yeah. 00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:33.840 Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:36.480 Oh, I parnicked in it. 00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:40.880 I did not know in the way that like I saw it before and I should remember. 00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:42.000 You just knew. 00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:42.639 Yeah. 00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:46.239 What happened? 00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:47.519 I yawned. 00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:49.519 And scared. 00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:53.119 What? 00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:58.960 Because I was saying something like relatively like, I don't even know what I was saying. 00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:10.960 But then all of a sudden, her mouth just like kind of, you know, the Lion King where they're like this, and then all of a sudden they just kind of did that where she was just looked at you or what? 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:13.760 You were watching her during. 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:14.800 You made direct eye. 00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:16.239 No, because she was talking. 00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:17.440 So I was trying to listen. 00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:19.039 Story. 00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:19.920 I forgot what I was talking about. 00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:21.599 You were talking about how you predicted it. 00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:22.559 That it was Kimi. 00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:23.039 Yeah, yeah. 00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:23.920 You knew it. 00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:26.559 I knew it, but not in a way because seen it. 00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:26.960 Yes. 00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:27.280 Right. 00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:29.119 More like, I'm like, I bet you that's Kimi. 00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:36.400 Is this is this like I think it's the full scene where basically they got the fight and Ben kills Kimi. 00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:39.039 I think there's a bit of a like, I think John's. 00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:40.719 We're left on it. 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:44.159 But yeah, eventually they talk and then he kills them. 00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:44.559 Okay. 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:49.440

Anytime has his stick, like is it like a like a police wand or something? 00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:50.719 Yeah, it's like a dawn kind of. 00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:51.440 My goodness. 00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:52.079 Oh, he's dead. 00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:53.360 I think there is a word for it when it retracts. 00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:56.159 Yeah, oh, he's deadly with that thing. 00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:00.559 Like just the way that he like hits him like with precision. 00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:08.320 And like again, my thing with Ben was that always that he was like brilliant and that was terrifying. 00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:12.880 But now arm him with a retractable stick, and he's deadly. 00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:14.159 Also physically terrifying. 00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:14.960 Yeah, exactly. 00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:16.239 Oh, he's very dangerous. 00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:17.119 Yeah. 00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:22.239 But uh Kimi mentions his insurance policy. 00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.719 Yeah, that was the wrong insurance policy. 00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:26.239 Yeah, Ben does not care. 00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:31.519 The minute he was like, I have to Do you yeah, did you actually rewind it to see the bicep again? 00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:33.199 No, I just made a mental picture. 00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:36.320 Yeah, I just took a mental picture because he just lifted. 00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:37.360 I was like, hello. 00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:40.000 But like wrong audience. 00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:47.519 Do you believe it when Ben like what did he go? 00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:48.559 You killed my daughter? 00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:49.280 Oh no. 00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:59.280 Like it didn't seem like I I was trying to decide was that the acting, or Ben just as a character, was using that as an excuse. 00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:01.119 I 100% believe it's the latter. 00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:01.840 Okay, yeah. 00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:12.400 Because like even after he does it, and I think we're getting into the second episode now, because we I do think we want to like leave it on that button of his line because I thought that was funny. 00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:18.559 But he like this whole like, oh yeah, you know, I I agree with you. 00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:23.920 So what I'll say, because he he does lash out and kills him, even though John's like, don't. 00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:29.039 And then he kind of says, you know, everyone on the boat cares. 00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:30.320 Everyone's gonna be killed in his own. 00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:30.880 And he says so. 00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:31.440 Who cares? 00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:39.840 Yeah, so and it was very funny because I was with Teresa when she watched, and when he was explaining that to Ben, she said exactly what she said in her stream of consciousness, which was he doesn't care. 00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:41.679 Yeah, like that's not gonna stop him. 00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:43.039 Innocent people then he doesn't give a shit. 00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:43.760 No, exactly. 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:46.880 And he proved that, and like he does not care. 00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:49.119 Like, and he was never gonna care. 00:59:49.360 --> 01:00:00.320 No, and then when we start up on the next episode, slash continue on with this storyline, and Ben or Locke's kind of saying to him, like, you know, how how could you do that? 01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:06.559 And he's like, Well, you know, sometimes leadership decisions are clouded by emotional responses, you'll do better. 01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:08.079 And it's like that's such bullshit. 01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:10.320 Like he he doesn't allow that to happen. 01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:11.039 That's right. 01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:13.199 He is so full of shit. 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:16.159 He just wanted Kimi dead, yeah, and he didn't care who got. 01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:23.920 I think, yeah, he wanted to keep me dead as like a F you to Widmore, more of like a you killed my daughter, and to protect himself, yeah, right? 01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:25.599 Like at the end of the day, like Kimi is there for him. 01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:29.440 Yeah, at the end of the day, Ben will do what he has to do to protect himself, yeah. 01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:39.920 If it also accomplishes avenging his daughter or this and that, but to to suggest it was an emotional outburst and not a calculated decision to take Kimi out is is wrong. 01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:41.199 Exactly. 01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:47.119 So, yeah, that was quite the scene because it puts that little green light to red. 01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:49.840 And we never really talked about what they were doing on the boat, did we? 01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:50.239 No. 01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:51.280 Have we seen much of that yet? 01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:53.760 Yeah, because it the whole time it's green, right? 01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:53.920 Right. 01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:54.159 Right. 01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:59.360 So we didn't talk really about that, but that's really not the most interesting thing happening. 01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:10.400 Like we saw the C4 last time, and yeah, I thought it was kind of interesting or funny how much Desmond's kind of losing it because he's like, I don't I don't know anything about this anymore. 01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:13.199 Yeah, it's very funny. 01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:20.800 So essentially, Michael comes up with this plan to freeze it, freeze it, which I don't know if the science is good on that, but sure. 01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:28.000 And Desmond is like, well, first of all, when they're explaining it all, and he just goes oh, boom, boom, and then Jin's like, boom. 01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:30.079 I thought that was very cute that he was following along. 01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:32.000 But Desmond's like, I kind of know how to do this. 01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:35.039 I did this for months, and then he's like, I we just have to do all of these things. 01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:37.679 And Michael's like, I'm gonna

keep freezing it when you figure that out. 01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:40.159 And Desmond's like, I've figured it. 01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:48.239 If we cut this one, and then literally Jin's like follows a string or like a wire for like half a foot, and he's like, No. 01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:50.159 Yeah, and I'm like, that's obvious. 01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:51.599 It was that you can't do that. 01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:52.559 How'd you miss that? 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:54.719 Like, I don't know anything about this. 01:01:55.039 --> 01:02:00.800 Literally, like, like Desmond had this like sketch and these notes, and he's like, by golly, I finally got it. 01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:06.400 And then literally he Jin picks up the like length of a live wire and is like, no. 01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:12.559 Yeah, and I'm like, that to me was and he's like, Okay, fine, I don't know what I'm doing, but very funny. 01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:15.840 I don't think it was supposed to be that funny, but it was very blue. 01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:16.639 Yeah, yeah. 01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:18.800 Good thing Jin's there, you know, is all I'll say. 01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:19.599 I love Jin. 01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:20.880 Or they'd be blown up. 01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:27.119 Yeah, so and then so then yeah, we've seen all that, and then the light does go red or green or whatever. 01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:34.400 It was green, it goes red when Kimi's dies heart stops or whatever, which Kimi is fucked in the head. 01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:36.800 Like, truly, I really couldn't miss that guy. 01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:38.800 Miss his body. 01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:40.559 He's a good, he's a good little bad guy. 01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:43.119 He has a good end here, he's a good big bad guy. 01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:50.079 So, um I also think technically in this episode we missed out on the fact that Sawyer jumps in this episode. 01:02:50.400 --> 01:03:01.199 I think that's just about to happen because it's sort of like Sawyer jumps and then they're on the chopper as the bomb turns red, because that's like that confluence of their coming back. 01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:03.360 But that technically happens in the second part. 01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:07.519 Because the first part ends on him saying so, right? 01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:09.760 Oh, so Sawyer jumps before then. 01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:10.400 What are we saying? 01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:11.119 First part, second part. 01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:12.000 The first episode? 01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:14.800 Well, we're yeah we watched them as two episodes though. 01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:15.599 But you know what I mean? 01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:17.360 Did you watch it as two episodes? 01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:23.280 Well, like together, but yeah, technically there was like a lost between it. 01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:24.480 Oh, interesting. 01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:24.960 Yeah. 01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:28.239 So that happened with the sew, right? 01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:30.159 That was the last thing in the episode, wasn't it? 01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:31.519 I can't remember. 01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:34.559 Because I thought it was like very like maybe I'm wrong. 01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:34.880 I don't know. 01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:36.079 Either way, it doesn't matter. 01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:38.000 At some point they're on the thing. 01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:41.280 And because swear jumps before they get back to the freighter. 01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:48.239 Yes, because it's very sad because they're trying to they got holes punched through with bullets and gas is leaking out. 01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:50.719 I'm surprised I didn't smell that sooner, honestly. 01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:56.000 When they were like that gas would have been coming out while they were still on the ground. 01:03:56.239 --> 01:04:01.679 Yeah, and it's not like we're not talking about trickle, like it's like a someone opened a spout and it's just yeah. 01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:03.519 Anyway, details. 01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:04.000 Yeah. 01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:10.880 Um But I thought it was sad when they were trying to like lose the weight. 01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:12.400 And the camera went to Hurley. 01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:13.679 Flashes to Hurley. 01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:19.440 And like I all I was thinking, like, he's probably having trauma flashbacks to the deck incident. 01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:25.280 And because like that was what got him into like a institution in the first place. 01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:30.559 And it's just like now he feels suddenly responsible again. 01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:35.679 But Sawyer to the rescue is like, no, no, not on my watch. 01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:37.440 And he doesn't even really think about it, right? 01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:45.519 Like he the the only thing he really stops to think about is telling Kate to go look for his daughter, yeah, right, and kiss her goodbye. 01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:48.320 Yeah, and then it's so I just love that scene very much. 01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:49.679 Then she's like, Why are you telling me all this? 01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:59.119 He kisses her, and then he literally just jumps with like no no warning, no grand goodbye, no like, yeah, it was a very good scene. 01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:04.400 And it is enough to get them to the freighter, and Desmond tries to stop them from landing. 01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:09.840 And I also thought that scene was kind of interesting because they're like, like, would they really be able to hear him saying bomb? 01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:11.280 Like when they're in the coming out of the thing. 01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:12.880 He's like, Did he say bomb? 01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:33.280 Like, it's very but anyway, there was bomb, so they shouldn't have landed, but they did because they had to be options on the chopper was probably one of the most frustrating why because the amount of times he was yelling at Lapidas to do things, and I'm like, You're the passenger, like saying he couldn't

get to like he's like, We have to go back to the island. 01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:34.880 He's like, No, you're not landing on the island. 01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:37.199 Like, what are you driving? 01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:38.320 Then you shut it. 01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:40.559 You should probably listen to Lapidas, like pretty smart. 01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:45.920 He's the one, he's piloting this thing, he's telling you you have no fuel, you have to do this, you have to. 01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:48.960 Yeah, but Lapidas also said they wouldn't make it back to the island. 01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:49.840 Yeah. 01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:55.199 So it's like No, but I mean from the get, like, Jack was kind of like, I didn't think there's anything wrong with it. 01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:58.400 Go to the boat, you gotta find the boat, and he's like, Well, I don't see it. 01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:01.280 And then it was like He's we can't land here. 01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:02.079 Well, we have to. 01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:02.960 Like, you know what I mean? 01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:04.079 It's like, oh no shit. 01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:05.360 Like just reacting. 01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:07.280 Yeah, well, he needs to settle down. 01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:08.880 He's dressed because Sawyer just jumped out. 01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:09.840 Well, you know what? 01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:14.320 He needs to just settle down because he's treating Lapidas a little like a doom doom. 01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:24.960 So I I found when they're actually on the boat, and like now we could just kind of go by storyline if we wanted supposed to scene by scene, but I I felt that like they were when they were on the boat. 01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:25.599 Okay. 01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:28.559 It was very chaotic as to what was happening. 01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:31.280 And like I it's not clear to me like how long they were really there. 01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:31.920 Minutes. 01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:32.400 Minutes. 01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:33.920 I guess he did say five minutes. 01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:34.639 Yeah. 01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:37.760 Three minutes ago. 01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:46.559 So uh yeah, it was funny because I thought when we saw the bombs at first, it was like right inside that door. 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:56.159 It takes gin, like five fucking hallways and three stairwells to well, because it seems like everybody who leaves that room comes up in like two seconds. 01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:57.599 Jin takes forever. 01:06:57.679 --> 01:06:58.800 I'm like, is he lost? 01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:03.280 Like that was like so son didn't want to leave Jin. 01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:08.960 Jin wasn't gonna leave Michael, but Michael, like in a very nice, like kind of scene, convinces him to. 01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:10.719 And that's probably Michael's nicest moment. 01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:12.960 Yeah, and also like, thank you, Michael. 01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:14.639 Like, Jin, are you insane? 01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:15.119 I

know. 01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:17.280 Like, why are you not Sun will kill you? 01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:18.079 Exactly. 01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:19.599 That was so dumb of Jin. 01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:20.639 To be like, I'm gonna stay. 01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:21.119 It's like, yeah. 01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:22.960 But you said Desmond, like, no, you should. 01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:25.440 If anything, Desmond should have stayed and you should have gone. 01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:28.559 Desmond dipped so Desmond doesn't even think he didn't even think twice. 01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:29.280 He's like, get by. 01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:35.440 And then I mean, to be fair, Desmond in his mind was telling them to leave and trying to get people off too, right? 01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:41.760 So he's helping it in like jackets for people, and yeah, but Jinn not wanting to leave his typical Jin. 01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:46.719 And by the time he comes around to it, um, they're flying off. 01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:51.519 And Kate had told Son, I'll go get him, get on with the baby, and Jack. 01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:52.719 And then Jack won't let her. 01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:56.000 And so they all get on and they're flying away. 01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:59.679 Oh, that was that was Jin makes it to the deck. 01:07:59.920 --> 01:08:02.480 I literally got heartbreaking chills on my deck. 01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:04.239 She's like, Let's go back. 01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:05.440 We have to go back. 01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:07.280 Sun's not the thing. 01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:07.679 Yeah. 01:08:08.079 --> 01:08:13.440 Oh, that was a great, great scene, great acting from Fujin Kim. 01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:15.760 Oh, yeah, it was wild. 01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:16.720 It was just true. 01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:18.000 I wonder if she got nominated. 01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:20.720 Okay, but did you guys know she never got nominated? 01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:21.039 What? 01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:22.319 That was so good, such good acting. 01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:24.079 So everybody's like trying to hold her back or whatever. 01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:26.880 And in my mind, I'm like, who has the baby? 01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:32.159 Because like son had the baby, and now the baby's not in her arms, and she's freaking out, and everyone's holding babies. 01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:34.640 Everyone's holding her back. 01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:38.319 And in the back is Desmond with just his hands over his mouth like this. 01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:39.199 Yeah. 01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:41.600 Nothing else. 01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:42.640 No motion. 01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:44.960 Just oh, I remember that. 01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:46.640 It's like he's like, what's happening? 01:08:47.039 --> 01:08:48.000 To be fair, Desmond. 01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:49.279 I always kind of kind of forget. 01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:50.319 It's kind of new to this. 01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:52.159 What is happening? 01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:52.560 Yeah. 01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:56.640 But that way, oh, she I literally heartbreaking was bawling. 01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:57.600 It was so sad. 01:08:57.760 --> 01:08:58.399 And then boom. 01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:01.439 The whole time I was like, Jin, jump, jump off, jump, jump. 01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:02.239 You can do it. 01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:04.079 But yeah, it was it was tragic. 01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:10.720 And I will not come to Jack's defense in this scene, but good lord, he needs some bedside matter. 01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:11.760 He has none. 01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:13.119 It's gone. 01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:13.840 He's gone. 01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:15.680 But he starts with it's gone. 01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:18.399 And I'm like, she doesn't give a shit about the boat. 01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:21.199 Is he talking about the boat right now? 01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:22.960 Like, it's gone. 01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:24.159 He's gone. 01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:25.199 Like Jesus. 01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:28.000 I know she's freaking out, but give her like 10 seconds. 01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:29.119 She literally watched. 01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:31.840 Yeah, like that's a pretty traumatizing thing to witness. 01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:33.520 Jack, just sit the fuck down. 01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:34.960 Yeah, like say nothing. 01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:38.399 I mean, no wonder she's mad is trying so hard to like hold her. 01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:39.920 Hold her and like calm her down. 01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:42.239 And like Desmond's just got his mouth covered. 01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:56.319 And Kate's like trying to cover the baby and like it's because like she Jack does infer that, or basically says that later in the episode, or the second episode, of Jin blames me for and we're supposed to fill in the blanks, like Jin's death, basically. 01:09:56.399 --> 01:10:01.840 Or maybe he outright says it, but basically, yeah, she wants nothing to do with him off island. 01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:03.840 Or the others for that matter, other than maybe Hurley. 01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:06.720 Hurley, who came to you know. 01:10:07.039 --> 01:10:09.760 Yeah, so it's uh that was a wild ride. 01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:17.039 And then they don't know what they're gonna do because they're still losing fuel very fast, even though he put duct tape on it. 01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:19.039 That solves everything, so that's weird. 01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:21.600 And they only refueled it for five minutes. 01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:22.079 Five minutes. 01:10:22.399 --> 01:10:22.640 That's true. 01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:23.600 That's true. 01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:25.520 So they wouldn't have had a lot of people. 01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:29.920 And that's what I was saying earlier is what I forgot about because I didn't I couldn't remember. 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:35.600 I I had a visceral memory of Sawyer dropping from it, and I knew at some point they went and got sun. 01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:36.319 Yeah. 01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:38.399 And I did

not know. 01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:58.159 I couldn't remember, and I knew the the freighter blue with Jin and Michael on it, but I couldn't remember like where Faraday, and I remember the scene where Sawyer swims up and Juliet's on the beach, and I couldn't remember exactly where Faraday ended up when all this happened, and I couldn't remember exactly how they got from the helicopter back to. 01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:07.840 And it turns out that their story is like relatively like they did go to another island and picked up on that island because their their helicopter falls into the ocean. 01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:13.279 Yeah, which by the way, that scene is terrifying, and like the fact that they just fell into the ocean with a baby. 01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:16.800 I know, and I'm glad they acknowledge that when they say when he's like, Is she is he okay? 01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:18.319 And they're like, Yeah, it's a miracle. 01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:23.439 It is like everyone surviving that would have been a miracle, but the baby No kidding. 01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:25.279 She's just holding him. 01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:30.560 I'm like the fact they didn't let go on impact is like again. 01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:31.600 Thank you, Saeed. 01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:33.439 Threw that raft life raft down. 01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:35.680 I know he's just he's Saeed's the best. 01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:38.239 Shock they didn't toss that out when they're trying to lose the weight, though. 01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:40.159 That one somehow got missed. 01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:44.319 Thankfully, yeah, thankfully, thankfully, that would have been another how this should have ended. 01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:45.600 Yeah, it just ends there. 01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:47.760 It's like, oh, we actually tossed that out already. 01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:49.199 Oh, damn, and then they all just die. 01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:50.399 They have nothing ending. 01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:52.319 I mean, they're just floating in the water. 01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:53.359 Yeah, they help. 01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:53.840 Yeah. 01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:59.439 So yeah, and then uh are we at oh yeah, Sawyer swims up. 01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:01.439 His shirt is gone. 01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:08.159 I I I also think in reality, he probably would have lost the jeans too, because he probably lost his shirt to be able to swim better. 01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:09.600 Jeans are heavy when they're wet. 01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:10.399 So heavy. 01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:14.880 If anything, the the I mean, I guess the sh shirt probably like restricted his arms. 01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:16.239 But yeah, the jeans he certainly would have. 01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:17.680 He should have taken it all off. 01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:20.640 Yeah, he should have been naked, he would have been a lot more aerodynamic. 01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:23.920 No, the jeans he's water jeans are impossible to swim in. 01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:29.199 Yeah, but he makes it back

miraculously to where Juliet's having a little drink. 01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:32.000 He looks fine and he is charismatic. 01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:33.920 Like, why is he always charismatic? 01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:34.800 Like he's so great. 01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:38.960 What I feel like is like five to twenty miles. 01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:42.800 Five to twenty on a bearing, maybe. 01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:45.039 And bearing to Juliet's. 01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:49.680 I think once you're in the we because you mentioned that in your thing too, and I had thought about that. 01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:54.800 I think once you're in within a certain diameter of I just like saying bearing, man. 01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:57.760 No, I agree, but I I just bring it up because I had thought that too. 01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:01.119 I'm like, how is it that like there's like a there's like a perimeter. 01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:03.600 There's a perimeter that once you're in, you're kind of in the islands. 01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:06.399 The bearing is to get out of the perimeter properly, yeah. 01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:08.000 Or in back into it. 01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:08.560 Yeah. 01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:11.119 And uh yeah, Juliet's very sad. 01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:12.960 And then we see the smoke on the horizon. 01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:14.479 And so I was like, is that our boat? 01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:15.279 And he's like, it was. 01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:16.640 Oh, rough. 01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:20.720 Yeah, she just looks she looks wrecked when she because she looks kind of like out of it. 01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:23.680 And I'm like, oh, this girl does not look okay. 01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:30.239 I thought she looked very resigned, which like to me was kind of like a Juliet type thing where it's like, here yet again, I'm fucking stuck. 01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:30.960 I'm stuck. 01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:33.840 Like, and yeah, because I wanted to help people. 01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:35.760 Yeah, exactly. 01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:38.239 Uh she just can't get off this island. 01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:39.039 So sad. 01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:40.000 Yeah. 01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:43.680 And then I think we get to the wheel turning, the Arctic. 01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:45.760 There's a few other like off-island things. 01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:48.399 Like, we did we actually talk about when Sun visits Woodmore? 01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:49.119 No, Nayam. 01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:50.479 But I think she's kind of mad. 01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:53.279 I think that happens after, doesn't it? 01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:55.199 Because the wheel, I think it's turned. 01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:57.680 I remember thinking, oh, that was sooner than I thought. 01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:03.920 I don't remember exactly because we also still have other flashbacks of Said and Hurley and Kate and Jack. 01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:06.720 So at any point, Sun is like clearly pissed. 01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:07.199 Yeah. 01:14:07.439 --> 01:14:13.119 And I think it happens before we see Jin die because I remember thinking, like, why is she so pissed? 01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:15.920 And then seeing, like, yeah, that's probably why. 01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:19.039 But it implies that she's like trying to work with him. 01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:19.439 Yeah. 01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:19.840 Right. 01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:23.520 Against Ben or the others. 01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:25.039 Like Jack. 01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:26.560 A lot of animosity. 01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:27.359 Right. 01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:29.680 And yeah, and then a lot of power. 01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:31.199 Yeah, she's scary. 01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:31.840 Yeah. 01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:36.479 So when it comes to the wheel turning, Ben essentially just sends Locke off. 01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:42.800 Like he blows up that thing, there's a hole in the wall, and he sends Locke off to be the new leader of the others. 01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:44.399 And they kind of share a moment. 01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:45.600 They shake hands. 01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:45.920 Yeah. 01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:48.000 It's kind of like, okay, I guess this is how it ends. 01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:50.720 And do you believe Ben when he was like, sorry, I made your life so difficult? 01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:51.279 No. 01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:55.039 I never know what to believe with Ben. 01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:55.600 I don't know. 01:14:56.239 --> 01:15:01.920 I feel like it was like one of those like this is over, quote unquote. 01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:06.239 And that's like kind of like his like ending of it. 01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:08.000 But like it's not actually over. 01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:08.319 Yeah. 01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:11.199 It's kind of like when he said goodbye to Jack when Jack left, too, right? 01:15:11.279 --> 01:15:12.640 It's just like, okay, you gotta go. 01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:13.760 We gotta get off this island. 01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:14.319 Goodbye. 01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:16.079 Nice bye. 01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:19.840 Like yeah, he probably said it just to like just to say it. 01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:32.000 Give Locke a little bit of a if if he is truly believing Locke's the next leader to kind of like give him a little bit of a puffed up chest and kind of something to motivate him a bit, feel good about himself. 01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:37.520 And then he's on his journey through the wall, through the ice caves, yeah. 01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:45.840 What well I'm sure it's cold where there's anti exotic fourth dimensional matter, whatever they called it. 01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:47.439 So random. 01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:52.560 Um can we talk for for uh like actually give it the did do it? 01:15:52.720 --> 01:15:53.520 I think it's deserved. 01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:54.640 What are we what are we gonna do? 01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:55.039 Which one? 01:15:55.279 --> 01:15:58.000 Which is when he's actually turning the wheel, it's actually quite emotional. 01:15:58.319 -->

01:15:59.680 It's actually quite first of all. 01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:00.479 I love that set. 01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:01.199 It's so cool. 01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:02.800 It feels very Indiana Jones like that. 01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:09.359 Yeah, it does feel veryphics on the wall and like this rickety old ladder, and some like pillars and yeah, it was awesome. 01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:12.720 The only thing is, it's a good Canadian girl. 01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:16.319 If that shit is that frozen, his hands would be stuck. 01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:19.760 Some gloves and some warm water. 01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:22.079 It's like the minute you stick your tongue back. 01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:23.840 The minute you touch it, I was like, Oh, he's fucked. 01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:25.119 He's not getting those hands off. 01:16:25.439 --> 01:16:27.520 He's gonna lose a layer of skin easily. 01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:31.279 But we so that's kind of happening, like he's starting to turn it when he gets in there. 01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:34.239 We see that it's kind of this, and he lights a little thing and he's about to turn it. 01:16:34.479 --> 01:16:39.279 At the same time, that like Faraday is trying to, you know, get people back and forth. 01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:41.439 Fairy's on Faraday's on the sea, yeah. 01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:46.800 Yeah, and Juliet and Twittering thing, and then the the helicopter people are circulating. 01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:50.560 And at this point, Jack says go to the island. 01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:51.439 Get back, yeah. 01:16:51.600 --> 01:16:57.520 Like he wants them to go to the island to try to get, I guess, other people, or at least he knows that they have no fuel, something. 01:16:57.760 --> 01:16:59.600 So he's now said, Let's go back to the island. 01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:01.439 I'm okay with that, essentially, is what he's saying. 01:17:01.600 --> 01:17:11.359 And that's kind of the the atmosphere to which we find Ben and Jack or John Locke has met with Richard and the other others, and they all look up to him. 01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:12.159 Well, welcome. 01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:14.319 Richard says, Yeah, welcome home. 01:17:14.560 --> 01:17:19.439 So that's kind of like the atmosphere to which we find ourselves with this wheel being. 01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:27.840 And we don't know, like we know because we've seen it, but like they've said you're gonna move the island, but like, what does that mean? 01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:29.680 Because how do you move an island? 01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:32.960 Yeah, and they call it the frozen donkey wheel. 01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:35.279 What that's what they call it. 01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:35.840 That's it. 01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:36.319 You're joking. 01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:37.760 No, that's what fans call it for sure. 01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:38.720 The frozen donkey wheel. 01:17:41.119 --> 01:17:42.399 The frozen donkey wheel. 01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:48.079 And it was never supposed to be like released because that they just called it that as like to help for like staging. 01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:48.800 Yeah, okay. 01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:51.199 And then it just now everybody knows that's what it's called. 01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:52.479 That's hilarious. 01:17:52.640 --> 01:17:53.520 I thought you were joking. 01:17:53.760 --> 01:18:02.479 It's also, I can't remember if we mentioned that like Locke is explicitly told by Ben that he can't return to the island if he moves it. 01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:03.920 Yes, Ben can't come back. 01:18:04.159 --> 01:18:05.520 So he knows that. 01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:12.319 But I feel it, or at least something related to it, because he's so emotional when he's doing it. 01:18:12.640 --> 01:18:19.279 And to me, that was like the first actual, like sincere emotion that I believed from Ben. 01:18:19.439 --> 01:18:26.399 Like as he's moving it, and like maybe at first glance it just he's like exerting himself or whatever, but you see that it's emotion. 01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:29.279 Like, yeah, he's upset that he has to do this. 01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:35.039 Yeah, and so I have to think it's because he at least believes what he's being told, which is that he won't be able to return. 01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:37.600 And that island means more to him than Alex ever did, yeah. 01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:39.199 Than any of the rest of this stuff ever did. 01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:43.520 I agree that he is emotional because he's leaving the island. 01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:58.159 I don't think Ben ever thinks something is a hundred percent, but I think he's very emotional because he knows he's leaving, and this island, like you say, has meant more to him than anything else, and this chapter is now over. 01:18:58.640 --> 01:18:59.600 What's gonna happen? 01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:03.680 I'm I'm sure he's already thinking how he's gonna find a way to get back. 01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:04.319 Oh, yeah. 01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:15.039 That was but like I agree that this was a very emotional for him, and like you say, the first real emotion we see him we see from him is because he's leaving the island. 01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:18.479 And I think also because he's like lost power. 01:19:18.720 --> 01:19:34.800 Yeah, like he's no longer in charge and he's admitted so much to John, and and he's now has to figure out how he can regain power by coming back, or wherever he ends up off island, which we are led to believe is gonna be very cold. 01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:35.760 Oh no, it's cold. 01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:40.640 He needs the jacket because he's gonna go down to the Arctic Cave, but then it's hot where he ends up. 01:19:40.880 --> 01:19:43.439 But like, how's he gonna get power there? 01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:51.520 Right, like he's starting off from scratch, kind of yeah, but like even that, like, he's not even really because somehow he's globe trotting. 01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:52.479 I know, I know. 01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:57.199 He's got all these,

he's like um dude Moriarty or whatever he called himself the thing. 01:19:57.439 --> 01:19:59.359 So, like, I don't understand how this works. 01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:04.399 So, like he must have caches of resources scattered around the globe. 01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:11.039 Because he's just he's just like literally globetrotting, yeah, and has unlimited resources, like on whose funds? 01:20:11.920 --> 01:20:12.720 Yeah, right. 01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:18.319 So he's got he's got himself set up, but yeah, for sure he's emotional because he has to go. 01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:19.199 He has to go. 01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:20.000 Yeah, yeah. 01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:37.199 And so he moves the frozen donkey wheel, and then as they're literally flying towards the island to land, yeah, very high squeal sound, and then it gets very bright, and there's a blinding light, and then that was a good scene. 01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:41.760 Wow, when it disappears, because it could have been hokey. 01:20:42.079 --> 01:20:43.119 It could have been quite hokey. 01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:47.439 Yeah, I thought, especially for what would that have been like 2007, 2008? 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:48.960 Yeah, not bad. 01:20:49.199 --> 01:20:51.520 No, and I like the little ripples in the water after that. 01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:56.319 Yeah, they did a good job, and yeah, the blinding light, and just and then it's just gone. 01:20:56.640 --> 01:21:02.560 Like the blinding light's a good use, a good use for the TV show because it's like then they don't have to show anything. 01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:03.920 So but it worked. 01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:05.840 Like it also, yeah, it was very successful. 01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:10.239 It was very effective, but also saved them from like being like, How do the mountains move? 01:21:10.319 --> 01:21:11.199 How do the trees move? 01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:13.359 Yeah, like is it like a what happens to the people? 01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:14.720 Does it move as a map? 01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:16.960 Does it kind of like get picked up? 01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:18.239 Like, what's the situation? 01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:21.119 Yeah, so that was a really fantastic scene. 01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:25.760 And like honestly, who who kind of saw it coming like back in the day? 01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:31.600 I'm sure it was very, even though they said move the island, how do you like how do you expect something like that? 01:21:31.920 --> 01:21:32.720 It was awesome. 01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:33.439 Awesome. 01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:34.079 I loved it. 01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:35.119 I still love it. 01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:37.760 And then we have Jacko. 01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:41.760 He's drunk driving, pill driving, drug driving. 01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:43.359 Yeah, he's hopped up. 01:21:43.520 --> 01:21:46.319 Well, so yeah, we have Jack driving. 01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:52.079 We have Did we talk about uh um Kate's nightmare? 01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:53.359 Briefly. 01:21:53.680 --> 01:21:55.680 I I can tell you what he is heard. 01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:56.560 Okay, what is it? 01:21:56.640 --> 01:21:57.279 Because it's terrifying. 01:21:57.520 --> 01:21:58.640 It's backwards talking. 01:21:58.960 --> 01:21:59.520 Oh my god. 01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:08.720 Oh and when you play it forward, it says um the island needs you, you have to go back before it's too late. 01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:12.800 And then we see Claire saying, don't go back, basically. 01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:15.760 So it's like Well, she says don't take it all back. 01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:16.880 Oh, right, right. 01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:17.359 Right. 01:22:17.680 --> 01:22:20.800 So Claire's like, you come back, you leave him here with somebody. 01:22:21.119 --> 01:22:25.199 And man, Emily DeRavan is really getting her money's worth here. 01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:26.560 Like, I feel bad for her. 01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:32.720 Um, but yeah, that that scene is very I'd like to know if she actually has that gun. 01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:33.520 Oh, I'm sure. 01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:35.119 Or just dream Kate has that gun. 01:22:35.199 --> 01:22:37.119 Because I don't think that Kate should have a gun at this point. 01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:39.520 I don't think that would be allowed. 01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:41.600 Yeah, but yeah, she did make a lot of noise. 01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:44.960 So if there was an intruder, they'd know where she was, they'd be like, Oh, let's go upstairs. 01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:46.880 She's throwing shit. 01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:52.960 Oh, oh, we did miss a brief cameo by Daddy Shep. 01:22:53.279 --> 01:22:54.079 Oh, yeah. 01:22:54.399 --> 01:22:57.279 Oh yeah, when he says you can go now to Michael. 01:22:57.439 --> 01:22:57.680 Yeah. 01:22:58.399 --> 01:22:59.680 So Michael gets his relief. 01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:00.079 Yeah. 01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:01.359 He goes, bye-bye. 01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:03.600 Could you imagine surviving that blow? 01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:07.279 So why was it him who appeared to Michael? 01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:08.640 Michael's never seen him before. 01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:10.479 I mean, that's why he says, Who are you? 01:23:10.720 --> 01:23:13.279 I know, but why is it is it Christian Shepherd? 01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:13.840 No idea. 01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:17.199 Is it because of the finale, the series finale? 01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:17.680 I think so. 01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:18.239 Okay. 01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:19.199 That's okay. 01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:20.399 You know that. 01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:21.680 You know what I'm talking about. 01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:22.399 I don't actually. 01:23:22.479 --> 01:23:22.800 What do you mean? 01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:26.319 The church scene. 01:23:26.479 --> 01:23:26.800 Oh. 01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:29.680 I mean, it's either that's his role in that. 01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:33.119 Okay, wait, are we saying that it's like legit done? 01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:35.520 Or it could be the smoke monster.

01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:37.439 But can you be though? 01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:39.600 But that's what I don't know. 01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:40.720 That doesn't even make sense. 01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:44.479 I feel like it would make more sense for it to be because of the ending. 01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:46.720 But Michael isn't really in the ending though. 01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:47.760 Oh, that's true. 01:23:48.079 --> 01:23:52.000 He doesn't get to enjoy the fruits of that labor. 01:23:52.560 --> 01:23:54.880 But how would but how would the thing get there though? 01:23:55.359 --> 01:23:59.119 Well, do we maybe he can also leave a certain amount of the island? 01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:00.079 The perimeter. 01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:00.880 Like, I don't know. 01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:02.239 I'm just I agree. 01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:04.319 I think that seems a little bit out of it. 01:24:04.560 --> 01:24:06.159 It felt a little out of left field. 01:24:06.399 --> 01:24:07.840 Um, it's like, why him? 01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:09.840 Is there an explanation on that? 01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:10.880 You guys talk amongst yourselves. 01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:11.840 So I don't know. 01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:24.479 Until we get to that, um like before we get to Jack breaking in and pill like high driving, drunk driving, whatever it is, we do have to go through them being rescued by new penny's boat. 01:24:24.640 --> 01:24:24.880 Yes. 01:24:25.039 --> 01:24:26.319 Oh my god, I forgot about that. 01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:27.279 Yeah. 01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:31.279 So um old Penny's boat, fake Penny's boat gets blown up. 01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:33.199 New penny boat comes to their rescue. 01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:34.000 Searcher. 01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:34.640 Searcher. 01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:35.439 Cute. 01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:36.640 Searcher. 01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:40.319 So then and Jack lays it down. 01:24:40.399 --> 01:24:41.199 They gotta lie. 01:24:41.359 --> 01:24:41.840 Yeah. 01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:50.159 I think it's very interesting that so like Desmond, they're like, take it around the or she's like, take it around the back, and Desmond's like, I gotta get up. 01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:56.319 So he like gets up there and they have this beautiful, like it was beautiful, beautiful moment together. 01:24:56.640 --> 01:25:03.600 And then they finally get the people from the boat up on the thing, and Desmond's doing the sweetest thing of like introducing the role to her. 01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:04.399 That was really cute. 01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:06.159 Like, this is Kate. 01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:07.199 This is Saeed. 01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:08.079 This is Frank. 01:25:08.159 --> 01:25:08.319 Yeah. 01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:10.079 And I'm like, that's so weird. 01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:12.079 And then Jack ruins it by being like, We're gonna talk. 01:25:12.479 --> 01:25:13.439 It doesn't ruin it. 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:15.279 Why don't you just give us a second to have a rate? 01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:16.000 Do you know what I mean? 01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:17.920 But it takes a second. 01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:19.359 He's gotta get down to business. 01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:21.039 We need to talk. 01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:22.880 Jack. 01:25:23.199 --> 01:25:24.239 Well, they do need to talk. 01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:26.640 Yes, but you know, take a second. 01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:27.119 Give it a couple. 01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:28.640 He has no seconds to take. 01:25:29.359 --> 01:25:30.399 He's a very serious man. 01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:37.199 And I've been in the sea. 01:25:37.279 --> 01:25:38.479 I've sweat through it. 01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:39.439 I think it's open. 01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:40.800 Been in the sea. 01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:43.279 I I'm pretty sure it's infected. 01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:45.039 Do you have a medical day? 01:25:45.279 --> 01:25:46.640 That's what he needs to say. 01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:48.479 Maybe that's what he wanted to talk about. 01:25:49.199 --> 01:25:51.359 When he said we need to talk, maybe that was it. 01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:51.600 Yeah. 01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:52.880 There's a hole in my life. 01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:55.199 Sore. 01:25:55.520 --> 01:25:56.479 It's really bad. 01:25:56.880 --> 01:25:58.000 What did you find? 01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:08.800 So it's the idea is apparently that the reason anyone appears to Michael and says you can go now is because it was the island that was keeping him from dying. 01:26:09.039 --> 01:26:09.279 Yeah. 01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:14.640 And so that was his like at last act of penance, so he would be allowed to die. 01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:27.520 So there is literally like a divided debate as to whether it is the man in black or if it's an apparition, like a spirit of the island, which is arguably Yeah. 01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:30.239 I mean, I guess that would make sense that that's the debate. 01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:32.000 Um that's literally what we were just talking about. 01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:33.520 I know, but like why? 01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:35.199 So that that's the debate. 01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:48.960 And a few positions to support each side is that if it was just a manifestation of the island or his like belief about what was happening, why would it be Daddy Shabb? 01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:49.920 Someone he's never met. 01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:52.880 Someone he's never met, that also is meaningful to us. 01:26:53.039 --> 01:26:57.680 Like it could just have been like him talking to nothing, like when he talks to Mr. 01:26:57.840 --> 01:27:02.880 Echo, or it could have been Walt saying you can go now, or Ben, or someone like that. 01:27:03.199 --> 01:27:06.159 So that's what leads people to believe that it must be MIB. 01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:14.319 But then there's some people who said that apparently in the final season, I don't remember this, you probably remember more, that it's established that he can't cross water. 01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:18.640 So then people

are like, I don't remember that being specifically established. 01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:23.119 And then someone else on Reddit was like, but that also was a rule that maybe wasn't established when they wrote this episode. 01:27:23.439 --> 01:27:24.159 Yeah, exactly. 01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:30.399 It seems like a lot of people want to believe it's MIB I just don't know why behalf of the island. 01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:31.920 M IB would do that. 01:27:32.399 --> 01:27:32.880 I don't either. 01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:34.239 I feel like that's too kind. 01:27:34.640 --> 01:27:35.359 Yeah, exactly. 01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:40.079 Like, I don't know if he would want like he what what what is Michael to him? 01:27:40.319 --> 01:27:45.199 Like, I don't think Michael was a tool for MIB, he was a tool for Ben. 01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:47.279 Yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense. 01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:55.920 But apparently the the debt that Ben was like Michael's like being tied to not be able to die was to connect it to the island and not to Ben. 01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:56.640 That's true. 01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:59.760 So like it was because he was so bad on the island that he had to make up. 01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:02.399 For before he could be released from his debt to it. 01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:04.079 So that's the connection to MIB. 01:28:04.159 --> 01:28:05.359 It has nothing to do with Ben. 01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:12.319 And and as we come to learn in season six, MIB is a complicated character. 01:28:12.640 --> 01:28:13.840 He ain't so black and white. 01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:15.680 Nothing is black and white. 01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:16.079 No. 01:28:16.319 --> 01:28:17.840 As much as Lost wants you to believe it. 01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:19.760 Yeah, so we're just gonna cut all this shit out. 01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:20.960 No, I think it's fine to keep it. 01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:23.840 There's no spoilers when it comes to MIB, really. 01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:24.880 There's no spoilers. 01:28:24.960 --> 01:28:25.199 It's fine. 01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:25.760 We keep it. 01:28:25.920 --> 01:28:26.079 Yeah. 01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:26.560 Yeah. 01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:28.960 We have to, but it doesn't make sense to talk about it. 01:28:29.119 --> 01:28:29.359 Yeah. 01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:29.680 Yeah. 01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:31.760 Well, we just pretend you didn't come up with anything. 01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:33.199 No, it's staying. 01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:35.119 Just cut it up. 01:28:35.279 --> 01:28:37.680 So yeah, so they're on New Penny's boat. 01:28:38.239 --> 01:28:38.800 The searcher. 01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:39.680 The searcher. 01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:42.560 And it was a beautiful scene when Beautiful and Penny read. 01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:43.680 Amanda bawling. 01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:45.039 Balling. 01:28:45.359 --> 01:28:45.920 Balling. 01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:51.119 Balling between that and the Jin and Sun thing being in the same episode is unfair to my heart. 01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:53.520 It was a a season finale for the book. 01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:53.840 I know. 01:28:54.079 --> 01:28:54.399 Did you cry? 01:28:55.359 --> 01:28:55.840 I did not. 01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:56.880 I also did not. 01:28:57.119 --> 01:29:01.520 Um, I did almost cry uh at one point. 01:29:01.840 --> 01:29:02.479 What was it? 01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:04.479 Actually, it was Desmond and Penny. 01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:05.279 I did cry a little bit. 01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:05.920 Oh, okay. 01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:06.239 I did not. 01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:07.119 Oh, so bright. 01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:08.720 I just like their story. 01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:09.199 How can you? 01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:11.680 They just think they've come across this random boat. 01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:12.079 Yeah. 01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:14.319 And it's Penny's boat finally. 01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:15.520 With like her like what? 01:29:15.680 --> 01:29:18.079 Oh Spaniards or Russians or whatever. 01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:22.239 And then she's like, she was willing to help them even before she knew who it was. 01:29:22.880 --> 01:29:23.760 Like, hey, bring them around. 01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:27.840 And then she's like, and then they run to each other and they kiss, and it's beautiful. 01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:34.239 And it's interesting because that's the first time the actress Sonya Wagner or whatever met anybody other than Desmond. 01:29:35.680 --> 01:29:37.199 When she's introduced, she's like, Oh, nice to meet you. 01:29:37.439 --> 01:29:38.159 It's all genuine. 01:29:38.239 --> 01:29:38.399 Yeah. 01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:40.640 That's why they did the intro scene. 01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:42.560 But yeah, so very good scene. 01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:49.119 Um, and but it lays the groundwork before they even get to the searcher of Jack saying, Locke was right, we're gonna have to lie. 01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:51.039 And I guess what's the reason? 01:29:51.279 --> 01:29:54.159 Just that like he lays it out whoever believes. 01:29:55.279 --> 01:29:57.439 Yeah, so it's to but like I don't know. 01:29:57.520 --> 01:30:00.159 I was also, but the island just disappeared, so how are they gonna find it? 01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:04.800 I guess if they found it once he doesn't really know where what that means, so yeah. 01:30:05.039 --> 01:30:07.920 And I'm not even sure, like he said, he's not even convinced it happened, right? 01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:09.680 Like he's Oh, yeah, that was so funny. 01:30:09.920 --> 01:30:12.800 And Harley's like, uh, so what's your explanation, dude? 01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:14.720 So Jack, just give up, give in. 01:30:15.359 --> 01:30:16.239 Give up already, buddy. 01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:20.079 Yeah, for one moment in your life, just recognize the reality of what just happened. 01:30:20.399 --> 01:30:22.079 Something freaky just happened. 01:30:22.399 --> 01:30:23.439 It's very funny. 01:30:23.680 --> 01:30:25.520 Um okay. 01:30:25.760 --> 01:30:27.680

Uh, and then where are we? 01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:29.039 So is it the end? 01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:29.840 I think so. 01:30:30.079 --> 01:30:32.399 Well, we see them get onto that fishing island. 01:30:32.960 --> 01:30:36.399 Yeah, so they And have scrap wood. 01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:37.920 I don't know where that came from. 01:30:38.399 --> 01:30:39.920 Where would that even come from on the boat? 01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:40.479 That's what I'm saying. 01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:41.439 Or the plane, I mean. 01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:43.279 Like if they're going with a plane crash story. 01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:49.600 I yeah, I thought they went a little like, okay, get this dirty shirt on and the dirty, the dirty clothes and like the blood on their face. 01:30:49.680 --> 01:30:50.960 I was like, why are they still dirty? 01:30:51.039 --> 01:30:52.800 And then I was like, Oh, okay, they're putting it together. 01:30:53.039 --> 01:31:00.640 The scrap wood was a little bit weird, but then I just realized like theoretically in their story, they were on an island. 01:31:00.800 --> 01:31:01.439 Oh, that's right. 01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:06.319 Yeah, so there could have been like shipwreck pieces there or something, like in pirate times. 01:31:07.039 --> 01:31:11.119 Because like boats aren't really But how why would Penny have that too? 01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:14.560 Like I well, that's what I was like, okay, you guys. 01:31:14.800 --> 01:31:20.880 You never know, but at least it does explain why Lapidas and Desi aren't with them. 01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:21.680 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:28.399 So they still wonder because I I remember that episode with the Oceanic crew or like spokesperson or whatever. 01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:29.840 I was like, okay, so are they in on it? 01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:30.560 I know, yeah. 01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:37.840 Yeah, because maybe they're in on it because they also know that that wreckage wasn't real or whatever, or is it and so it makes I I think this is much more ex believable. 01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:40.960 Yeah, now we now we can believe that Oceanic's not in on it. 01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:44.399 We can believe that like Penny's helping, because she also has a lot of resources. 01:31:44.560 --> 01:31:45.039 Well, exactly. 01:31:45.199 --> 01:31:48.720 So she's helping Lapitas and and Desmond sort of fly under the radar. 01:31:49.039 --> 01:31:52.000 Because even that, she's just like she's like, How did you find me? 01:31:52.079 --> 01:31:54.640 And she's like, I tracked your phone call. 01:31:54.720 --> 01:31:55.920 And I was like, Yeah, cool. 01:31:56.319 --> 01:32:03.520 That's what so them must be like when you have millions and millions of dollars at your disposal and you can track a disappearing island. 01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:06.880 She's very smart, very resourceful that one. 01:32:07.119 --> 01:32:07.600 Yeah. 01:32:07.920 --> 01:32:14.399 And then we get to um Jack driving very recklessly listening to loud

rock music. 01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:14.880 Yeah. 01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:15.439 Oh my god. 01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:17.760 I loved when he kicked that door into it. 01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:18.880 Oh yeah, that was hot. 01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:21.119 But also, like, maybe let's just not. 01:32:21.680 --> 01:32:23.119 He's not in his right frame of mind. 01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:25.199 Oh no, no, no, not at all. 01:32:25.359 --> 01:32:25.520 No. 01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:29.279 And then Ben scares the bejesus out of me and appears out of nowhere. 01:32:29.520 --> 01:32:30.800 Ben looks good off island. 01:32:31.119 --> 01:32:31.359 He does. 01:32:31.600 --> 01:32:33.119 He had a little bit of uh glow up. 01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:34.640 Yeah, he had a nice shower. 01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:36.159 Yeah, clothes. 01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:41.600 So let's talk about this finale scene, because it is uh dozy. 01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:52.399 Jack's also just off the rail the rails, though, like breaking into shit, and he goes and he opens. 01:32:52.880 --> 01:32:54.159 What is he doing there? 01:32:54.479 --> 01:32:55.199 Yeah, good question. 01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:58.720 What is his plan for being there right then? 01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:04.720 I guess it's just answers to like just see him again, probably. 01:33:05.279 --> 01:33:07.359 Because like he he he doesn't know what to do. 01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:09.760 Like he's very lost. 01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:20.000 My favorite line of the whole finale, maybe even this season, has been saying, I hear you're flying on passenger flights, Jack, hoping they'll crash. 01:33:20.399 --> 01:33:21.600 That's dark, Jack. 01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:22.399 Very dark. 01:33:24.079 --> 01:33:24.880 It is dark. 01:33:25.359 --> 01:33:26.880 It's really messed up. 01:33:27.680 --> 01:33:37.840 But like, so he's just like, obviously, we know we've seen he's not in a good place, and and Jeremy Bentham has come to talk to him, convinces him he's gotta go back to fix the bad things that have happened. 01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:41.600 Which I was trying to remember what those bad things were, and I think I remember. 01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:44.720 Do we do we ever get to see that conversation between them? 01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:46.079 I'm sure. 01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:49.520 Yes, and also the bad things are many bad things, I think. 01:33:50.159 --> 01:33:51.359 Because I don't remember either of those things. 01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:55.119 I'm like Jack's just like not a believer. 01:33:55.760 --> 01:34:07.359 So like to get him to this point is like I I want to know what that conversation is because I'm having a hard time like getting him to this point. 01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:09.439 Well, and it's clearly like wrecked him. 01:34:09.760 --> 01:34:10.159 Well, exactly. 01:34:10.239 --> 01:34:11.680 Like he's so messed up. 01:34:12.479 --> 01:34:21.680 Like I know that he was kind of on the pills um after he saw his dad at the hospital. 01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:31.279 So like obviously he was already on a bit of a slippery slope there, but like how do you go from I don't believe, I don't believe, I'm believe to being like Yeah, like we gotta go. 01:34:31.520 --> 01:34:32.000 We have to go back. 01:34:32.079 --> 01:34:32.399 Yeah, you know. 01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:41.439 Because that's the thing that was season three finale where he yelled we have to go back and we're now at season four finale and we know he's gotta we still don't quite know why though. 01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:42.560 Yeah, like there. 01:34:42.880 --> 01:34:46.319 Even saying like bad things, I'm like bad things very generic, like I don't mean anything. 01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:56.239 Yeah, so and like I don't know that if just like even basing it on like the conversation that he and Locke had at the orchid, orchid, right? 01:34:56.560 --> 01:35:03.359 Orchid, where he's essentially being like, Oh, like, you know, I want you to stay and blah blah all this other shit, and Jack's like, fuck you, no. 01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:10.079 Like a part of me feels like if Locke went to him was like, you have to go back as bad things happened, he'd be like, What bad things? 01:35:10.239 --> 01:35:10.800 Like, what the fuck? 01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:12.800 Yeah, like there's clearly more to that conversation. 01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:20.640 So I I'm like so curious about what that would be to like legitimately convince him and essentially drive him to like madness. 01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:23.439 Like I do not know. 01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:24.319 We'll see. 01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:25.600 Is it good? 01:35:25.680 --> 01:35:27.439 Is it oh it's all pretty juicy? 01:35:27.680 --> 01:35:28.640 It's juicy. 01:35:29.039 --> 01:35:34.960 But it I mean, yeah, everything to do with Locke slash Jeremy Bentham going forward is juicy. 01:35:35.199 --> 01:35:35.920 It's juicy. 01:35:36.239 --> 01:35:37.760 Like, also more questions. 01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:39.279 How do we get off the island? 01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:40.640 Other question, yeah, yeah. 01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:42.079 Why has it got a new name? 01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:43.359 Is he doing that? 01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:44.720 Is he kind of like where Ben is? 01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:47.119 But it's not a new name, he's they still have to hide him, right? 01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:50.079 Like that's that's probably the easiest one to answer. 01:35:50.640 --> 01:35:55.279 I thought maybe it's because he's doing that Ben thing where Ben has 10,000 names when he's off the island. 01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:56.560 Right, probably. 01:35:56.720 --> 01:36:02.399 So yeah, so then Ben's convincing him that everyone's got the problem, is that they all have to go. 01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:03.680 Yeah, it can't just be Jack. 01:36:03.840 --> 01:36:04.640 Yeah, but why? 01:36:06.079 --> 01:36:06.479 I don't know. 01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:07.279 You know what I mean? 01:36:07.520 --> 01:36:08.960 So many more the whole conversation.

01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:10.000 I was like, but what? 01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:12.800 Yeah, including Jeremy Bentham. 01:36:14.479 --> 01:36:26.960 But I agree that it is a little bit interesting how there are, I think, more questions raised than answered by Ben's appearance, and it is crazy to me that Jack is going along with it so well. 01:36:27.359 --> 01:36:32.880 That's how that to me is a a sign he's fallen more than the drugs, more than the leaving gate. 01:36:33.039 --> 01:36:33.199 Yeah. 01:36:33.359 --> 01:36:36.000 So now he's like blindly accepting the words of Benjamin Linus. 01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:38.960 And that's yeah, well, and that's one of the things that I wrote. 01:36:39.119 --> 01:36:41.439 I was like, you know that this man is not trustworthy. 01:36:41.600 --> 01:36:46.159 You know that nothing he says is a good idea, but you're just like, you're just nodding a lot. 01:36:46.319 --> 01:36:47.119 I'm like, do not nod. 01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:47.840 Do not nod. 01:36:48.079 --> 01:36:48.319 Like, no. 01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:49.199 No, he was nodding. 01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:51.359 He was not, he was very quick to nod. 01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:52.960 Yeah, and then we get the reveal. 01:36:53.359 --> 01:36:54.640 It's Locke. 01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:55.760 John Locke. 01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:57.920 Jeremy Bentham is John Locke. 01:36:58.079 --> 01:36:58.640 That's fucked. 01:36:58.880 --> 01:36:59.039 Yeah. 01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:00.319 That shit ain't right. 01:37:00.560 --> 01:37:01.439 That shit ain't right. 01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:02.079 And that's it. 01:37:02.479 --> 01:37:03.199 Loss is over. 01:37:03.439 --> 01:37:05.279 And that is like a that is a loss. 01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:10.880 And then there's more questions because Sayuz says like it was ruled a suicide. 01:37:11.680 --> 01:37:12.399 Right, right. 01:37:12.640 --> 01:37:13.920 And which leaves me really with that. 01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:16.000 He c I mean he clearly does not believe it was suicide. 01:37:16.159 --> 01:37:17.039 Yeah, it was ruled. 01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:23.199 I love that scene too when he he goes to he's like, Why won't you call him his name? 01:37:23.279 --> 01:37:25.039 His name was, and he's like, No, we're being watched. 01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:30.239 Like, I like that Hurley and even like his innocence was still like, dude, like it's Locke, like, like what are we doing here? 01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:31.680 Like, we gotta stop this stuff. 01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:32.319 It's nuts. 01:37:32.399 --> 01:37:32.800 But yeah. 01:37:33.039 --> 01:37:34.079 And then he's playing chess with Mr. 01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:34.560 Echo. 01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:35.359 Oh, that was cute. 01:37:35.439 --> 01:37:35.680 Yeah. 01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:37.039 Also terrifying. 01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:38.640 I thought he was playing by himself. 01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:40.960 Well, yeah, but also I knew he was playing with Mr. 01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:41.439 Echo. 01:37:41.840 --> 01:37:42.319 Oh, yeah. 01:37:42.479 --> 01:37:43.760 So that's it for season four. 01:37:43.920 --> 01:37:45.439 So that was a trip. 01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:46.000 Yeah. 01:37:46.239 --> 01:37:47.600 Very good season. 01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:49.119 Great finale. 01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:51.199 Do we have character rankings? 01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:53.680 Do we want to talk about the season at all, or are we just gonna leave it at that? 01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:58.079 Yeah, let's let's do the character ranking, maybe our rate our rankings of the episode. 01:37:58.560 --> 01:38:00.000 And then we can chat for like a few minutes. 01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:01.439 Yeah, just about the season as a whole. 01:38:02.159 --> 01:38:03.039 What are our character rankings? 01:38:05.439 --> 01:38:08.560 Alright, well, it is the end of the season. 01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:17.279 And that means that these are the final rankings for season four. 01:38:18.079 --> 01:38:20.000 Michael, may he rest in peace. 01:38:20.239 --> 01:38:21.039 Finalemente. 01:38:21.760 --> 01:38:28.159 Is that number 17 with a whopping negative 7,840. 01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:28.960 Brutal. 01:38:29.359 --> 01:38:30.239 Followed by Ben. 01:38:30.479 --> 01:38:33.039 Number 16, negative 455. 01:38:33.359 --> 01:38:36.000 Miles at number 15 with negative 150. 01:38:36.319 --> 01:38:39.039 Closely followed by Charlotte with negative 145. 01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:42.560 Then we dip and over over to let's try that again. 01:38:42.800 --> 01:38:44.239 Then we dip over into the positives. 01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:46.079 With Lapidus with 250. 01:38:46.159 --> 01:38:47.840 Then we have Faraday with 330. 01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:50.000 Kate with 850. 01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:52.960 Locke at number 10 with an 895. 01:38:53.199 --> 01:38:55.359 We have Claire at number 9 with 910. 01:38:55.600 --> 01:38:58.399 Desmond at number 8 with 1,120. 01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:01.840 We have Juliet at number 7 with 1,220. 01:39:02.239 --> 01:39:04.720 Jack at number 6 with 1,890. 01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:07.520 Sun at number 5 with 2,075. 01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:11.760 Jin at number 4 with 2,270. 01:39:12.399 --> 01:39:16.079 Sawyer at number 3 with 2,915. 01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:19.359 Said at number 2 with 3,120. 01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:27.439 And at the end of season 4, at number 1, holding strong, our king, Hurley, Hugo Reyes with 3,430. 01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:28.239 Wow. 01:39:28.479 --> 01:39:29.760 He ain't never fallen from that. 01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:30.880 He ain't never fallen. 01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:32.000 You think so? 01:39:32.239 --> 01:39:33.840 I mean, it'd be hard. 01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:35.039 I don't know what's gonna happen. 01:39:35.520 --> 01:39:36.560 He doesn't get worse. 01:39:36.800 --> 01:39:37.359 I don't think really. 01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:40.000 But he does he do more. 01:39:40.399 --> 01:39:41.600 Good things, yes. 01:39:41.840 --> 01:39:42.479 Like a lot? 01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:42.720 Yes. 01:39:42.880

--> 01:39:43.119 Oh, yeah. 01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:44.399 He's more than other people. 01:39:45.039 --> 01:39:48.560 I I think no different than the trajectory we've already found ourselves on. 01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:50.880 And I don't think nothing drastically changes. 01:39:50.960 --> 01:39:55.119 No one else becomes so much better while Hurley like stays the same or dives. 01:39:55.600 --> 01:39:57.119 Like it that hasn't already happened. 01:39:57.840 --> 01:39:58.640 I think we're following. 01:39:59.039 --> 01:39:59.279 Yeah. 01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:01.680 So you got so it's a similar path going forward. 01:40:02.239 --> 01:40:06.159 Early predictions for the end of the series is that Hurley stays at number one. 01:40:06.319 --> 01:40:06.479 Yes. 01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:07.920 I think so, yes. 01:40:08.079 --> 01:40:09.600 I would like that cemented, please. 01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:11.920 We've both said it multiple times. 01:40:12.640 --> 01:40:12.960 $20. 01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:14.000 No, that's it. 01:40:14.159 --> 01:40:15.760 No, because you can you can affect it. 01:40:16.319 --> 01:40:17.520 I'm not gonna remember. 01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:21.840 Oh I'm not taking this bet because I don't believe it. 01:40:22.239 --> 01:40:23.439 Oh, I believe. 01:40:23.760 --> 01:40:24.640 I mean, I do believe it. 01:40:24.880 --> 01:40:25.359 You'll take one. 01:40:25.760 --> 01:40:28.399 20 bucks says he's still the 20 bucks says he's not. 01:40:29.920 --> 01:40:33.439 Again, I'm betting with someone who has the ability to control the outcome. 01:40:33.520 --> 01:40:35.119 That's how much I believe in Hurley. 01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:37.359 How much do you won't even 20 bucks? 01:40:41.119 --> 01:40:41.520 Like that? 01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:44.399 By the time we get to season five, this bet will not exist. 01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:46.800 First of all, it's gonna be season six. 01:40:47.199 --> 01:40:47.520 What? 01:40:47.680 --> 01:40:49.199 We have two more seasons to get through. 01:40:49.439 --> 01:40:49.760 Oh yeah. 01:40:50.560 --> 01:40:52.800 By the end of season six, I won't even remember this bet. 01:40:53.039 --> 01:40:53.279 Yeah. 01:40:53.359 --> 01:40:54.159 So, okay. 01:40:54.319 --> 01:40:55.520 Are we doing our ratings? 01:40:55.680 --> 01:40:55.920 Yeah. 01:40:56.239 --> 01:40:56.880 Do we want the music? 01:40:57.039 --> 01:40:57.840 Or we can yeah. 01:40:58.159 --> 01:40:59.840 Yeah, because we have to have it in the back. 01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:01.760 We can just keep keep playing that music. 01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:02.079 Yeah. 01:41:02.239 --> 01:41:03.520 Just round round it. 01:41:03.920 --> 01:41:04.319 What is it? 01:41:04.399 --> 01:41:04.800 Loop it. 01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:05.680 Loop it up. 01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:08.079 I was gonna say round robin. 01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:11.920 I mean season four is what we just watched. 01:41:12.079 --> 01:41:12.399 Finished. 01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:13.279 Yes. 01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:14.880 It's pretty fucking epic. 01:41:15.119 --> 01:41:15.760 It's pretty good. 01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:17.119 It's a big turning point for the show. 01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:17.920 It is, yeah. 01:41:18.159 --> 01:41:24.800 But it is interesting how kind of like we were saying, season three ends with Jack saying we gotta go back. 01:41:25.039 --> 01:41:28.560 Season four ends with Jack saying, Yes, we have to go back. 01:41:28.960 --> 01:41:30.319 Just less angry. 01:41:31.520 --> 01:41:31.840 Yeah. 01:41:32.159 --> 01:41:33.279 We still don't quite know what it is. 01:41:33.439 --> 01:41:35.520 We've softened a little bit exactly. 01:41:36.560 --> 01:41:38.560 So what do you think of this episode though? 01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:39.680 Oh, I'm sorry. 01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:40.239 Right. 01:41:40.399 --> 01:41:40.720 Shit. 01:41:40.800 --> 01:41:42.159 Oh, oh, 10 out of 10. 01:41:42.319 --> 01:41:42.560 Yeah. 01:41:42.800 --> 01:41:43.199 For sure. 01:41:43.359 --> 01:41:45.279 There's no, for me, there's no other option. 01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:46.720 Yeah, I give it a 10 as well. 01:41:47.359 --> 01:41:47.840 Nine. 01:41:48.079 --> 01:41:48.640 Get out. 01:41:49.199 --> 01:41:50.000 You wrote down already? 01:41:50.079 --> 01:41:50.399 Yeah. 01:41:50.560 --> 01:41:50.880 Wow. 01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:52.239 Yeah, I wrote down, sorry. 01:41:52.960 --> 01:41:54.159 I'm putting them together as one. 01:41:54.399 --> 01:41:54.640 Same. 01:41:54.720 --> 01:41:54.880 Yeah. 01:41:55.039 --> 01:41:58.880 And to me, there wasn't like a single beat of this that was amiss. 01:41:59.199 --> 01:41:59.760 Me neither. 01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:01.680 Like not a single second of it. 01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:02.800 A 10 ever. 01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:03.119 So. 01:42:03.439 --> 01:42:05.039 Well, we'll consult the archives. 01:42:05.279 --> 01:42:06.880 Yeah, I don't think I've ever given a 10. 01:42:06.960 --> 01:42:07.439 I think you must. 01:42:07.920 --> 01:42:10.319 To me, this is like the epitome of what this show is about, though. 01:42:10.479 --> 01:42:19.840 And like I said, there's not a single, every flashback, every conversation, every like scene, everything was perfect. 01:42:20.159 --> 01:42:20.800 I agreed. 01:42:20.960 --> 01:42:24.159 And the music was perfect, and the reunions were perfect, and it was emotional. 01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:26.239 Oh yeah, it was a great episode. 01:42:26.479 --> 01:42:27.279 To me, like this should be. 01:42:27.439 --> 01:42:27.840 What is this? 01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:29.039 You said what was it on ID? 01:42:29.119 --> 01:42:29.439 9.2. 01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:32.880 No, that's out, that's about on par then. 01:42:33.359 --> 01:42:36.399 I'm always I'm always slightly below IMDb, and you guys are always. 01:42:36.720 --> 01:42:38.000 Yeah, but there's no over. 01:42:38.399 --> 01:42:44.319 I don't think there's any episode on IMDb that will ever get a 10 because there's always contrarians and thousands of. 01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:45.600 Oh,

yeah, that's true. 01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:48.479 So are you saying you'll never give an episode of Lost a 10? 01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:49.520 I don't know. 01:42:49.840 --> 01:42:54.399 I think it has to be one where like I'm shocked. 01:42:54.640 --> 01:42:54.880 Yeah. 01:42:54.960 --> 01:42:56.000 I feel like there will be. 01:42:56.079 --> 01:42:57.279 I don't know what it's gonna be. 01:42:59.119 --> 01:42:59.680 Yeah. 01:42:59.920 --> 01:43:04.479 If you don't give the finale a 10, we're retroactively cutting you out of the podcast. 01:43:04.960 --> 01:43:06.479 We'll go back and edit you out. 01:43:07.199 --> 01:43:10.800 Yeah, a lot of work, but it's and you'll have to do half of it. 01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:14.479 I would not, I would not put the work in to edit myself out. 01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:16.079 No, I just I don't know. 01:43:16.159 --> 01:43:18.800 I I feel like I have to like instinctively give it a 10. 01:43:19.279 --> 01:43:22.000 And I think because I didn't feel that, it didn't get a 10. 01:43:22.319 --> 01:43:26.159 I feel like at the end of the episode, if I don't go, oh my god, 10, it's not a 10. 01:43:26.239 --> 01:43:27.359 Like you need a visceral reaction. 01:43:27.439 --> 01:43:27.760 Yeah, yeah. 01:43:27.920 --> 01:43:29.199 I think that's what it is. 01:43:29.520 --> 01:43:33.760 I I think overall, though, this season is probably my favorite season too. 01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:34.479 So far. 01:43:35.119 --> 01:43:35.439 So far. 01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:36.720 Well, I'd have to remember. 01:43:36.880 --> 01:43:41.279 I seem to recall not loving season five and then loving season six. 01:43:41.600 --> 01:43:43.039 But season five's my favorite. 01:43:43.199 --> 01:43:43.520 Oh, really? 01:43:43.600 --> 01:43:43.760 Yeah. 01:43:43.920 --> 01:43:45.359 Maybe I will then, I don't know. 01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:48.000 Um, but I loved this season like a lot. 01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:54.720 Like, I think season three was good, but it like dragged out in time, and there was a lot of cool stuff that happened and very iconic things. 01:43:54.960 --> 01:43:57.600 But this season to me is so cohesive. 01:43:57.840 --> 01:43:59.520 Yeah, and maybe you know what? 01:43:59.680 --> 01:44:03.520 Maybe the Rider's Strike helped with the cohesion. 01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:04.399 I don't know, right? 01:44:04.479 --> 01:44:07.199 Like, I yeah, like you're right. 01:44:07.359 --> 01:44:11.039 It was very succinct in a good way. 01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:11.520 Yeah. 01:44:11.920 --> 01:44:16.479 But I still sometimes miss those filler episodes. 01:44:16.640 --> 01:44:17.439 Yeah, we know. 01:44:17.600 --> 01:44:23.279 But that that doesn't mean it doesn't take anything away because it was an amazing season, and it I think it's the best so far, for sure. 01:44:23.439 --> 01:44:25.920 I I mean there's always a part of me that wishes there was just more content. 01:44:26.319 --> 01:44:26.479 Sorry. 01:44:27.359 --> 01:44:27.439 Yes. 01:44:27.680 --> 01:44:29.760 I always wish there was more content for something I love. 01:44:29.840 --> 01:44:34.720 So like it would have been nice if it was the 16-episode season as opposed to 14 or whatever. 01:44:35.039 --> 01:44:42.399 But I do think that like it helped keep them on track and like limited where they could go with some stuff, and they just had to be on their a game. 01:44:42.720 --> 01:44:45.760 Like they didn't have an they didn't have the opportunity to have misses, right? 01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:49.199 They actually had to fight the network to get a two-parter finale. 01:44:49.279 --> 01:44:55.359 Like the network only was gonna give them the one because of the time, the deadline, the time for for airing. 01:44:55.600 --> 01:45:00.800 So they were able to get in this second hour basically, which I thought they needed for sure. 01:45:01.039 --> 01:45:01.520 Yeah, oh yeah. 01:45:03.119 --> 01:45:08.319 Um that first I think everyone's choices this season made a lot of sense. 01:45:08.399 --> 01:45:20.720 Like, I think seeing where, you know, and like I said, when you start out the season, knowing kind of slowly revealing who is in the oceanic six, and then you see where they all are at at different points, you're like, how is this ever gonna work out? 01:45:20.960 --> 01:45:30.319 And it's like so flawlessly weaved together to like go from who left each other at the beach and this to who's on that chopper to everything. 01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:32.800 It makes so much sense, it flows so beautifully. 01:45:33.039 --> 01:45:33.920 It's so well done. 01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:39.119 Yeah, who was your favorite uh who had the best character arc slash story this season? 01:45:39.840 --> 01:45:41.760 I think Sawyer had a really good arc. 01:45:41.840 --> 01:45:48.479 Like, I think he went from kind of like not giving a shit to like really being kind of like a hero. 01:45:48.640 --> 01:45:55.039 Like he's always been kind of like an anti-her, but I feel like now he's kind of like stepped into like more of a hero type role. 01:45:55.279 --> 01:45:57.920 So I really like his arc. 01:45:58.239 --> 01:46:06.479 Yeah, and I I can add to that because at one point in this episode he says, What are they talking about to Jack and Locke? 01:46:06.640 --> 01:46:08.800 And Hurley says, I don't know, leader stuff. 01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:27.840 And you can kind of see Sawyer's a little hurt by that, that like Hurley doesn't see him as a leader, and it's almost like we also feel that because throughout the season he has had this arc of like turning into a leader, like how he helped Claire save like how he was going back for people, really wanting to look after the people he cares about. 01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:30.000 So I I think I agree with you on that one. 01:46:30.239 --> 01:46:35.520 And I'm also like just if we want to say best and worst, I I do not love Saeed's. 01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:42.239 I like I love so much of what Said has done this season, but it's very

clear he's on a like downward. 01:46:42.560 --> 01:46:44.239 I don't like that he's working with Ben. 01:46:44.319 --> 01:46:52.399 I don't like so I although it hasn't quite come to fruition yet, I don't like the direction Saeed's character's gone. 01:46:52.479 --> 01:46:57.600 Even though we're still seeing positives in our present timeline, you just know it's not going well. 01:46:57.840 --> 01:47:03.359 No, I think I'm gonna go with Claire as the worst slash like misused, maybe. 01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:06.960 Like they just fucked like her whole character up. 01:47:07.439 --> 01:47:09.600 I was like, Yeah, best fair forgotten worse. 01:47:09.920 --> 01:47:11.039 Yeah, exactly. 01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:12.720 Exactly. 01:47:13.039 --> 01:47:14.800 Best and worst character arc, Teresa? 01:47:15.119 --> 01:47:16.239 Yeah, same. 01:47:17.199 --> 01:47:20.640 I mean, Sawyer and Claire or Sawyer and Say Sawyer and Claire. 01:47:20.720 --> 01:47:33.600 I mean, Claire got like a throwaway, don't let him like go to the island in a two-hour episode as you know a uh main cast member. 01:47:33.840 --> 01:47:36.159 Honestly, probably because they had a c like an episode obligation. 01:47:37.119 --> 01:47:48.079 Like, could you imagine like you start off as like you know, you're you're a pretty big character, and then all of a sudden you're just kind of relegated to this throwaway line that like is a dream. 01:47:48.159 --> 01:47:48.720 Yeah, is a dream. 01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:55.359 And she was a really big character, like she was the pregnant girl who was given birth on an island that no one could, like she really did start out strong. 01:47:55.520 --> 01:47:56.079 So yeah, you know what? 01:47:56.239 --> 01:48:00.720 You both I I completely which is again probably explains it. 01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:12.800 Like I forgot about her completely, especially with the whole like because even when she had that stuff with Ethan, she had that stuff even with like Juliet, like, and now it's just now that she's not pregnant, she just like doesn't matter, I guess. 01:48:12.880 --> 01:48:16.399 Like seems like kind of weird, so it's kind of sad. 01:48:16.640 --> 01:48:20.800 Uh Said would be like a close second, but also just knowing how much worse it gets. 01:48:21.199 --> 01:48:21.920 I know that's what I mean. 01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:25.039 It's like I don't know you can tell that it gets yeah. 01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:28.239 You want to talk about misused slash forgotten. 01:48:29.119 --> 01:48:30.239 Okay, one other thing. 01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:33.119 What was the most emotional moment in the season for you? 01:48:33.439 --> 01:48:34.079 Constant. 01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:34.640 Yeah. 01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:35.520 The constant. 01:48:35.760 --> 01:48:35.920 Yeah. 01:48:36.239 --> 01:48:36.880 That's so good. 01:48:37.279 --> 01:48:39.279 It's like the best episode of the whole series. 01:48:39.439 --> 01:48:39.840 I know. 01:48:40.159 --> 01:48:42.640 And so, like, you

didn't give that one a 10? 01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:43.920 There's no way. 01:48:44.239 --> 01:48:45.039 I don't know. 01:48:45.279 --> 01:48:46.319 We have to go back. 01:48:46.479 --> 01:48:51.840 Well, shit! It is a common idiom. 01:48:54.479 --> 01:48:56.239 We're just so naturally kidding. 01:48:56.640 --> 01:48:59.680 We have to go back to find out it's about as important, I think. 01:49:00.640 --> 01:49:01.439 Yeah, we have to go back. 01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:02.720 We do have to check, we have to. 01:49:03.039 --> 01:49:05.439 Yeah, the con scene you absolutely have to go intend to. 01:49:05.520 --> 01:49:07.439 It's just literally the perfect TV. 01:49:07.680 --> 01:49:08.079 Yeah, yeah. 01:49:08.159 --> 01:49:15.760 There's no way when you say that, you always like sound like you're trying to like convince us you believe it. 01:49:15.920 --> 01:49:17.600 No, but like but it is really good. 01:49:17.840 --> 01:49:21.520 But my honorable mention would be to Alex being killed. 01:49:21.920 --> 01:49:25.359 I think that that scene is just so fucking good. 01:49:25.520 --> 01:49:30.399 And like I remember being shocked because they hadn't really ever like people had died and things. 01:49:30.479 --> 01:49:34.479 I'm not saying like obviously the Analysia um Libby Wammy. 01:49:35.840 --> 01:49:38.239 Is like terrifying. 01:49:39.279 --> 01:49:41.840 But this seemed like they killed his kid. 01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:46.079 Like it just seemed like icky in a way that I never thought Lost would do. 01:49:46.239 --> 01:49:48.159 And I was like, there are no rules to this show. 01:49:48.319 --> 01:49:49.199 There are no rules to this show. 01:49:51.199 --> 01:49:53.520 Oh, um, Russo's death. 01:49:53.680 --> 01:49:54.960 Yeah, I agree. 01:49:55.920 --> 01:50:06.960 You're telling me this badass woman that you spent three seasons hyping up and being essentially Tarzan of the jungle is just taking it like that. 01:50:07.279 --> 01:50:08.079 But that's kind of life. 01:50:08.159 --> 01:50:10.399 Sometimes you go out with a whimper and not a bang, right? 01:50:10.560 --> 01:50:12.800 But it's just like for a TV show now. 01:50:13.199 --> 01:50:14.000 I get it, I get it. 01:50:14.319 --> 01:50:17.119 Man, it would have been nice just to like give her a better send-off. 01:50:17.199 --> 01:50:17.680 You know what I mean? 01:50:17.840 --> 01:50:18.079 I agree. 01:50:18.159 --> 01:50:19.840 Yeah, like Carl Fine, whatever. 01:50:20.079 --> 01:50:20.880 You know, like that's sad. 01:50:21.199 --> 01:50:23.760 Or even more of like a moment between her and Alex or something. 01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:24.640 Yeah, no, I get it. 01:50:24.720 --> 01:50:26.800 Yeah, like no, it should be like, we're gonna run. 01:50:26.880 --> 01:50:28.079 Like, girl, no, you're not. 01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:31.039 You have spent 16 years training here. 01:50:31.279 --> 01:50:31.520 Yeah. 01:50:31.760 --> 01:50:36.479 And you think that you're gonna outrun a perimeter of shooters, girl. 01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:37.039 No, you're not. 01:50:37.199 --> 01:50:39.600 Yeah, so anyway, there it is. 01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:40.800 Season four. 01:50:41.199 --> 01:50:42.239 Great season. 01:50:42.479 --> 01:50:43.039 All right. 01:50:43.279 --> 01:50:45.920 We'll see you in a little while to get back to season five. 01:50:46.159 --> 01:50:47.920 Maybe we'll have a bonus episode clip show. 01:50:48.159 --> 01:50:51.840 Yeah, clip show where we just put out if Tracer ranked the constant pen or not. 01:50:52.479 --> 01:50:53.199 You guys. 01:50:53.359 --> 01:50:54.479 I'm I might have. 01:50:54.720 --> 01:50:55.359 I think you did. 01:50:55.520 --> 01:50:57.279 I feel like probably, maybe. 01:50:57.359 --> 01:50:58.560 If anything, I'm revive. 01:50:58.880 --> 01:50:59.039 All right. 01:50:59.119 --> 01:51:02.399 Well, thanks for listening to this season of Let's Get Lost. 01:51:02.880 --> 01:51:05.840 That wraps up season four, and we will see you back here for season five. 01:51:06.079 --> 01:51:11.680 And I don't remember what the season five, episode one is called, but Teresa, look it up real quick. 01:51:11.920 --> 01:51:12.640 It's gonna be something good. 01:51:14.079 --> 01:51:16.000 It's gonna be montage of photos. 01:51:17.279 --> 01:51:19.680 Um season five, episode one. 01:51:20.159 --> 01:51:21.359 Because you left. 01:51:21.680 --> 01:51:22.479 Oh shit. 01:51:23.199 --> 01:51:23.840 Okay, bye. 01:51:24.560 --> 01:51:25.039 Bye.