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Speaker 1: And I can't hold it much longer.
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Speaker 2: Gonna let go so I can be free.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Oh, oh, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Let me free.
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Speaker 2: Let me free. Let me free. Let me free.
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Speaker 5: Let me free.
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Speaker 2: Let me free. Let me free. Let me free.
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Speaker 4: Oh, oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: If you just say what you want. Johnson and loving life right now. William Contreras getting the MVP chance. Do you get chills seeing that, Kratz? I mean, I'm sure Todd Father does too, but he played for the organization. Just seeing how Milwaukee is finally getting their moment.
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Speaker 1: I love fan interaction. Any kind of fan interaction like this, I'm getting pictures from a couple people that work for the team, and they're sending me pictures of their spot on the parade. It is... Some of the pictures are, like, crazy. Any kind of parade, people are so packed in there, so juiced. I love it for the fans.
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Speaker 4: And you saw the videos. These type of videos are even cooler.
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Speaker 5: But, you know, you see the videos of the old man in the house screaming his head off, crying.
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Speaker 4: I've been waiting all my life for this.
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Speaker 5: And, like, some of the cool things that are happening in Milwaukee and that area.
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Speaker 4: It's their first one, man. I mean, you've got to live this thing up. But, yes.
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Speaker 5: Celebrate it as long as you can here it was really cool really magical they they were the best team in baseball and you know maybe they might go on a little run here moving forward these next couple years hopefully we play.
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Speaker 3: Yeah that'd be nice hopefully we play and and can they build a dynasty right they i think for a dynasty you get the postseason appearances together and then you got to win two or three they've got the postseason appearances they've been doing that already for a while sure.
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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait. So the Braves weren't a dynasty then, Scott? Tell me. Back in the late 90s.
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Speaker 4: Early 2000s?
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Speaker 3: They had the postseason appearances. They had a title. Were they a dynasty? It's a good debate, but I think many people would say no.
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Speaker 4: What? I would say a title. I think a dynasty is more winning a championship, in my opinion.
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Speaker 1: Ooh.
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Speaker 4: I think.
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Speaker 5: he won championships with Michael Jordan's teams. They were dynasties because he won three in a row. And then, or I don't, it might've, was it three in a row? I don't know what it, but he won three and then he came back and then won three more. So yeah, I think they were all in a row and three, you win a couple and now we're talking.
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Speaker 4: So we'll see.
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Speaker 5: And that's debatable, but nothing to argue about. I think, I think, I think championships make dynasty.
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Speaker 3: Well, they're having their moment and let's talk more about them actually right now. It's a full count. Let's do it. Full count is fueled by marathon. Let's get into the Brewers and what's happening now. Also, I want to start with Contreras. Kratz, we've talked plenty about him, but we didn't take a ton of time to talk about him on yesterday's show, the first show after the World Series title. So he wins World Series MVP. It is transaction time too, so SpotTrack pointing out. He gets 50K as a World Series MVP bonus. So he made $ 9. 5 million. Next year, he's going to make $ 15. 5 million. That's a team option that will get picked up for his age 28 season. And he would also be eligible for arbitration if declined. But I don't think they're going to decline that. And they have him valued at six years 86 mil if he put out a market extension. I think that he would probably turn that down. He's going to be a free agent after next season. We did spend a little bit of time on this yesterday, but Kratz, if you could lock him up and I'm assuming you want to, what would you throw his way? Maybe catch him right after this parade and just a quickie phone call. Like, Hey, no, we got you on the hook for 15 and a half. Can I interest you in 92?
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Speaker 1: I know. I know I'm low balling you. But I think there's some question about his game calling, his continued growth. Is he going to continue to grow behind the dish? And if you look offensively, where he's at, is his production worth the Brewers forking out 18 to 20 a year for him? Let's just. Just a question. I mean, the countercatcher on the other team, the Rays catcher, Liam Hicks, had a better offensive season, better war, a lot of things. And people don't hear as much about Liam Hicks as you do about William Contreras. Do you pay him for his above-average offense that he just put forth this year, or are you blinded by the postseason?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, those numbers on the right look pretty good too. Those are some stat cast numbers. A lot of good red on the right side there of the profile page, Toddfather. Also, I mean, don't be afraid to go back at your boy Kratz. It's a Friday. If you're repping the William Contreras side and Kratz said, you know, still long-term questions, are you going to be an elite game caller and all that? What would your response be after what you just did?
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think right now we're all excited and you know, this is the next thing coming.
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Speaker 4: We'll do this every year. Let's go.
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Speaker 5: Now, wait till it just dies down a little bit. I would have to agree with Kratzy a little bit here just because of the fact of, yeah, this is exciting. You guys did it. It was unbelievable. I think he is a really good player. But yeah, I would like to see him. I think this is the six years, 86, I think that's in the right vicinity, 80 to 90. I think that's a really good Good for him. I think he goes
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back. I think I would take that in a heartbeat. He had an exceptional playoff. Let's see what he does as he moves forward. But if there was an opportunity to move forward and get a couple more years like this, I don't think he should hesitate.
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Speaker 4: I think he should jump on it.
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Speaker 3: And he might feel differently now after experiencing everything he did. And there are some guys that want to stay and start to evaluate what you'd get on a free agent market, what you'd get after a lockout. This might be a good time. We haven't really talked about this. Nothing is guaranteed. And Todd father, we talked a lot about how free agents are going to try and get signed. Both sides are going to try to get free agents signed over the next month. What about extensions? Extensions could be a thing over the next few weeks. I don't think there'll be a ton, but there could be some extension offers. Like if I'm a team, I think you have a little bit of leverage right now on an extension to say, Hey, we don't know what the other side's going to look like. So do you want to try and lock in a bunch of money right now? Long term.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Could happen. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Kratz, you don't think that's a thing?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I've been back and forth on this because some people were saying when the Brewers and I forget who else gave the extension or gave some extensions. It was all right around the same time. They're like, are these going to be easily grandfathered into a new CBA? Is there going to be changes in how they do things? So, I don't know. I don't think anything changed. I don't think we're making drastic changes with how we're offering guys money. You're either going to offer them at this time four years ago or you're going to offer them at this time this year if they're in the same category.
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Speaker 3: You're talking about the time period where the Brewers did a few like Pratt and Lara. The Tigers got McGonigal done early in the year. Connor Griffin got done with the pirates.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 1: But I think they're all different, but I think they're all different. I think Connor, Connor Griffin almost added them both together. He wanted to make the team. Like it was clearly a accept this, make the team. He said, no, went to the bushes. They offered him more McGonigal felt like, Hey, I'm on the team. This is going to be a sick extension. Like, That kind of stuff, it's all different. I don't think the CBA or anything like that changes that right now.
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Speaker 3: J.J., Weatherholt was another one too.
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Speaker 1: There, thank you. I knew there was somebody else.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's two different extensions too. The ones that I'm bringing up right now are the guys that are either not in the big leagues at the time or barely sniffing the big leagues. And then we started this conversation with
William Contreras, who's a year away from free agency. I will say this, one other thing to consider. This goes against my other point. Usually after a lockout, teams feel good again. There is a honeymoon phase usually after the lockout for an offseason where they're like, cool, everything's going to stay the same in terms of the rules for a little bit. So I feel more comfortable forking out cash. That is also something to consider. There's a lot there. I want to keep moving on some other business components of finance. what the Brewers are doing and how it's impacting the rest of baseball. So you see a number of articles and episodes of shows talking about the Brewers' blueprint. And you see many of them even on the FT Network. There are other team shows that we have that are like, hey, how come this team can't be the Brewers? Well, there will definitely be an episode at some point with the Twins talking about this. And Aaron Gleeman writes about the Twins. And he said, like every small market team, the twins want to copy the Brewers and the Rays because of their success with low payrolls, but emulating the brewers and rays requires a different type of investment behind the scenes. And he talked about how the twins fall short in that category. You know, he, Mentioned something that we've brought up here, but the Rays leading with 50 analytics department staffers. The Brewers are tied for ninth with 32. I've talked about the international staff being the biggest for the Brewers. And he said the Twins are tied at 16 with 24 on the analytics side in their analytics department. And then he went over the scouting side and he said Baseball America estimates the Rays are five with 84 scouts. Brewers tied for 10th, 78 scouts. And then he mentioned the Twins. Dead last, 39 scouts after shrinking the department this year.
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Speaker 4: Oops.
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Speaker 3: You're going the wrong way. You're trying to be like them. Oops.
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Speaker 1: I don't think you can sit here and go, okay, well, we have this many scouts, so here's where we're going to, like, you can't be last. You don't need to be first. You got to be right in the middle there somewhere. And let's try to stop emulating the Rays. Let's just try to pull pieces that are good from what they do. And you can emulate the Brewers. You know why? The difference? Todd, the Brewers won a World Series.
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Speaker 4: The Rays did not. Spot on. That's it. That's it.
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Speaker 5: And they were the best team overall on every aspect of what they did.
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Speaker 4: And that's just the God's honest truth.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's an important point by Kratz. Copy a winner. The Rays have had good success. They haven't won a title. And they've come close. I want a winner. So I think the Brewers will be receiving a lot of copycatting. And Kratz, I'm with you on that.
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Speaker 1: If they want a winner, though. That's what you said, Scott. I want a winner. If they want
a winner. Or do they just want to have success with low payroll? That's the difference. Ask yourself that honest question. Oh, well, why can't we do that as the Reds? Why can't we do that as the Twins? Do you want a winner? Or do you want to just save money and have some success?
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Speaker 3: And also playing to what you said, I'm completely on board. Do you need the most people behind the scenes in every department? No, but you can't be last. Last is a death sentence these days. I firmly agree with that point. Okay, next up. on the business side, Zach Scott, former GM and front office exec, uh, responded to Travis Sawcheck talking about how the brewers, you know, built systems culture over time to sustain front office, coaching personnel losses, talking about how poaching happens. And we went over a couple of poaching situations yesterday. The Astros looking at a brewers exec and a brewers, what was it? Scouting guy went to the white socks. So Zach Scott said, Hiring by brand has a very mixed track record. It's funny to see people get excited when their team hires someone from certain clubs as if they don't know anything about them. It's so much more complex than that. And I'll remind people that several people who get these jobs are endorsed by their current bosses because those bosses want them out. It's a cutthroat business. Wow. Hey, you should take this guy. And then they get off the phone and they go, dot, dot, dot, because he sucks.
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Speaker 4: Do you think that's happening a lot? Well, listen, that's, that's, that's risky there, man. That's tough.
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Speaker 1: No, I'm not, I'm not on this. I'm sorry, Zach. I think you have the wrong view of how being a leader is like you want. I'm, I'm a coach and this is the only, this is the only example I have. I'm a head coach of a baseball team. I hope every one of my assistants pushes me to say, I'm taking your job. I mean, that's, Isn't that the culture you create as the boss of something? Because that person's pushing you to be better. And so the idea that like, ooh, I got to get rid of my assistant GM. So I'm going to get him that job over with another team so that he doesn't take my job. Bro, you want somebody to take your job. Come and get me. Like, come and get my job. You know why? Because we're working together and we're going to be the best freaking group that we can be. And if you're like, if there's somebody that's like, I got to make sure I cut this guy. He's getting too close. Ah, you're looking at the wrong things. So I don't agree with this at all.
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Speaker 4: It's interesting. It's very interesting. I don't want any piece of that.
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Speaker 3: If you win, you're not. I mean, like if you're leading a front office and you're worried about people below you, then you're a loser because you're not winning. If you're winning, you're going to be there. Unless you're James Click with the Astros. That's an outlier, right? Because he won and he still got booted. Anybody else, if they win, they ain't going anywhere. They're not going anywhere. Am I right? Do we ever see? I mean, again, after a season or two, things can change.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 3: Like Dombrowski got booted by the Red Sox, what, a year or two after? We see those. But my point is, I mean, if you've got a consistent winner, like if you're the Brewers, you're Matt Arnold, you're not worried about who's below you. You're worried about who's around you so that they're really talented and you can continue to win front office executive of the year awards, make the playoffs every year, and then get a World Series title.
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Speaker 1: It's not about you. If you're in that position and it's about you, you're not going to do as well as you could. I'm not saying you can't do well. I'm saying you're just not going to do as well as you could.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. And then we'll get to the other part later. So on the way out of this segment, which had a lot of brewers in it, Kratz, I mean, I think you should show off what you're wearing. We haven't even talked.
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Speaker 4: About it yet. Yeah, I was wondering.
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Speaker 1: I thought we were wearing suit jackets today. No, it's my Uke jacket. Like, you're celebrating Uke. I didn't have anything to dress up for for Halloween, but this is the jacket that they gave us when we had Uke road trip where we all dressed up in Uke type of suit jackets. So might as well wear it today when they're in their parade.
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Speaker 4: Tasteful.
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Speaker 3: Well done. Love it, Kratz. I love the outfit today. And I wanted to make sure the podcast crowd heard it early on. Okay. Full count is fueled by Marathon, where fun runs on full. Save up to $ 1 a gallon with Marathon rewards. Hey, can we show both of these? So this one first and then the one that we didn't get to in the last segment, too, because I think they play off each other. So Richard Deitch, who is a media reporter. posted the world series viewership numbers, but I'll round here. If it's 0.5, I go up. If it's 0.4, I go down.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Game one, 12 mil game to 11 mil game three, eight mil game for 13 mil game five, 14 mil projected with that number there. And then here's somebody who works in media. Lena is the name posted.
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Speaker 4: Sorry.
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Speaker 3: I didn't do my homework on who this person is exactly, but I saw that this tweet got a lot of action, 500K views about. She said, as someone who works in the media, this to me is the wildest step of the World Series so far. Rays fans are peeved about all the conversation around attendance and point to the location of the stadium. But how do you account for this? And then she posted from an article that Milwaukee's metrics for game two were massive, 35.4 rating, 71 share. Rating denotes the percentage of TV homes in a given market watching a certain program while the share refers to the
percentage of TV's in use turned to an event the tampa area by comparison 12.1 local rating peak 41 share for game one so milwaukee dusted them on the tv side too because that that is an argument and people went nuts after this on both sides but people like you can't say oh well they're not going the games they're just watching on tv and then also milwaukee is on a different level right now in terms of the fever so it's tough to compare to them crats but even still if you compare that number to a lot of other spots in their market. It's not a great TV number. I mean, it's great, but not great enough for World Series and trying to win your first title.
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Speaker 4: That's my point.
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Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing. They just don't follow the team as much, and I don't think it's necessarily the fans. I think it's the team not selling the team to the fans for years. They're a franchise that just hasn't advertised in the area, the broader area. You still have all the people from Tampa. I get it. If not coming to the stadium, all people can watch. Make it be something that people want to watch and create that Brewers franchise. I mean, the Rays franchise.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You can't use that excuse to talk about, oh, well, the causeway. And then they're like, oh, well, no one's from Tampa. And I'm like, okay, well, that was the point. They were saying where the Tampa fans at. Because they're like, oh, well, so many people aren't from here. That's why they're not watching. okay, that's what we were talking about then. Then it wasn't the causeway.
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Speaker 1: Then they shouldn't have a team.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 1: Or the team should advertise in the area to make all these transplants be like, I want to be a Rays fan.
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Speaker 3: Well, New Ownership Group has a chance to do what Stu Sternberg did not do well, marketing.
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Speaker 4: No, he did not.
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Speaker 3: So the Baseball Hall of Fame takes things when history happens, and they've grabbed a few things from the Brewers. One of them is something that I thought he would need, but I guess not. Aaron Ashby gave his specs. No more specs. The glasses go to the Hall of Fame. So Aaron Ashby can't see anymore. Don't ask him to come into a game in the offseason unless he gets new ones.
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Speaker 1: That dude is not answering the phone. I'm sorry. Him and Louis Varlin from last year, these dudes don't answer the phone because they're just going to be like, does coach want me to get loose again? I'm good right now.
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Speaker 5: Listen, Scotty, something I learned from the Hall of Fame, like, Kratz, you can do this too. If you want your stuff preserved, anything you've played in, like a glove, a bat, a jersey, balls, whatever authentic, you can put it in your own little compartment there for your sons and daughters, daughters, daughters, for your lineage. They can see that for as long as there's a Baseball Hall of Fame. I thought that was pretty cool that I learned that.
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Speaker 1: Do you have something there?
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Speaker 4: I have....
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Speaker 5: Man, I don't have, no, I, they, they showed me a bunch of articles when I was there in Cooperstown, but they said, whatever you really want, we can, we can put in there. So I might do some home run Derby stuff, you know, before, you know, all said and done.
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Speaker 3: That's cool. Yeah. I mean, it's like a time capsule slash, uh, safety deposit box kind of thing where you're right.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, they are built for it. Quick question, random, but The bat that you used that you weren't actually holding when you hit a homer. Do you have that one? Where's that one?
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Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know. I don't know if I have it.
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Speaker 3: You know the bat I'm talking about where you threw it at?
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Maybe I should have got that.
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Speaker 5: You know, hindsight 2020, maybe I should have got it authentic.
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Speaker 4: Authenticated.
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Speaker 1: You have a ton of merch already, so you didn't need to keep anything else.
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Speaker 4: You worry about your merch, okay?
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Speaker 3: Hot Corner is presented by the Fox One app. We continue to learn about options, club options, player options. All of that will go down in the next few days. This is our annual reminder that mutual options are basically fake. Nobody ever accepts them on both sides. Nick Martinez, who is the one?
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Speaker 1: I played for the Brewers. I want to say it was Ramirez. Right-handed hitting. Now I got to find out.
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Speaker 4: Aramis Ramirez?
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 3: Could be Aramis.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 6: Anyway.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to look it up. We'll look it up.
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Speaker 3: Nick Martinez declining his mutual option. It was set at $ 20 million. You're like, oh, that's a good number. Well, he gets $ 4 million for declining it. Right? So we're already down to, you know, here's my value, $ 16 million. And then we'll see what he fetches on the free agent market.
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Speaker 4: Great check.
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Speaker 3: Great year.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
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Speaker 3: 4 million. That'll do your Christmas shopping. So John Heyman reporting on it and how basically all mutual options end up this way. Sonny Gray has one of these. You got a $ 10 million buyout. He's a free agent. Incredible. The opt-ins to me are more interesting. So I'm going to do two opt-ins. One, Pretty obvious. Corbin Burns not opting out of the final four years 140. This was the year where he had a trigger, but he would have had to give up four 140. And given the injuries, Todd Father, I mean the elbow and then really just popping up for a minute at the end of this season. You're not getting 4-1-40 on the free agent market, so you keep that. Still
think he could be a valuable piece of the Diamondbacks over the next few years, but you opt into that one fast.
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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. There's some that are just really simple.
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Speaker 5: It's so cool that Sonny Gray is going to get a $ 10 million buyout, and then Corbin Burns, he's got a big one here. All these guys, this is why baseball is so great. You can decide what contract you want and they have to stick to it. And then at the end, you decide whether you want to go. Player options are great. Mutual is kind of tough. And then team option is even tougher because they decide your fate.
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Speaker 4: So you have to really decide moving forward exactly what you want to do.
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Speaker 5: And there might be some arguments here and there, but these guys are all making the right decisions in my mind so far.
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Speaker 3: Last one, Kratz, most importantly, or maybe I just want to be able to question anyone that was going the other way on this. Bo Bichette has a $ 42 million player option for next season. Yeah, he's going to stay with the Mets. He has another one for the season after that. Again, $ 42 million. If he finds his form, right? Great. You can hit the free agent market after that. But look at the numbers for Bo. And I know he started slow, Kratz, and then he got better. But he never, like, set the world on fire this season for a long period of time. He's obviously opting in. 28 years old, I get it. He's not getting $ 42 million a season, and he's not getting even a longer-term deal that adds up the next couple seasons for him right now. That could change. But I remember seeing a couple times during the season, like, oh, Bo might opt out.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, huh? No.
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Speaker 3: No freaking way.
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Speaker 4: That might be the biggest opt-out one I've ever seen.
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Speaker 1: I love it. I love Bo Bichette. There's not– it was a panic move by the Mets to give him the contract because they heard what the Phillies were looking at. And good for the Phillies that they didn't get that. Or he might have played really well in Philly. Who knows?
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Speaker 3: Also, I know he was fine. I got to look deeper at what the D-metric said. I watch a lot of Mets games. Fine at third. He should be playing second. So we'll see if they figure that part out. I think asking him to play a position like that, he should be a middle infielder. You don't want him at short. That's fine. We've talked about that. He should be a second baseman. I think, I think he'll hit better if he's a second baseman too. I believe in that stuff. So many, many more option conversations to come, but props to Fox one, another big October sponsor, and they've got college football. They've got the NFL on Fox streaming on Fox one at home or on the go live or on demand. Never miss a moment stream. Now, big weekend for football. So, If you don't have it, get your Fox One three-day free trial today at foxone.com. Hi,
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Speaker 4: That is cool.
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Speaker 1: That's epic right there. Big woo with the trophy. He probably can't even lift his shoulder. All the way over his head.
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Speaker 4: With all his might.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's really, really fantastic. That's so cool. Just a bunch of boys. Just boys just hanging out, man. Isn't it crazy? You see these football players and basketball players are specimens. You got just a bunch of dogs, just guys just chilling and they're all shapes and sizes, man. Baseball players are beautiful. You would never know. Some guys who walk right down the street and you're like, ah, just a regular dude. No, that's a World Series champ for sure.
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Speaker 3: Even the Packers players on the sidelines and they're in a game and they like see them coming through and they're like, clapping.
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Speaker 4: It up oh yeah that's the good stuff give respect.
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Speaker 3: So the brewers are going to do their thing they're going to party and partying means showing up at as many public places as possible to get your flowers right.
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Speaker 1: But different the different times we made it deep whether it's the nlcs alcs world series I don't know. I wasn't playing in a lot of games. So I was always in charge of like, Hey, what are we going to do when we win? Cause it's not, it doesn't jinx it. You plan, you plan and you talk about the things you want to do and you go, you know what? We might not sleep for seven days. We're going to go here. We're going to do this. Then we're going to go out to Vegas. All the boys will fly. And some would be like, I'll pay for the plane. And you're like, yeah, that's kind of why we brought it up. Cause we're not flying.
00:28:59
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:29:00
Speaker 1: You know? So it's like, It's stuff like that, that the boys are going to, they're going to need a nap. Let's put it that way.
00:29:08
Speaker 4: They're going to have time.
00:29:09
Speaker 3: They're going to have time to nap. Unfortunately.
00:29:13
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:29:13
Speaker 3: You know what? You know what we're not going to bring up next season? The world series hangover. If we miss any games, there's no hangover. You're going to get extra time to rest. No world series hangover conversation next year for either side, for, The champ or the runner-up. I know it happens all the time, but they're going to get extra time. It might not be a lot of extra time. It might only be a week or whatever.
00:29:36
Speaker 4: Pratt doesn't think it. He doesn't think it's going to be any.
00:29:40
Speaker 3: Such a positive man. Positive thinker.
00:29:42
Speaker 2: All right, BetMGM Futures, it begins.
00:29:52
Speaker 3: We mentioned yesterday some of the early odds. plus two 50 on the Dodgers to win the world series. That is way too high. I'm sorry. That is ridiculous. I, that, that is like one of my, it's not even about if they're going to win or not. Like you're getting plus two 50 on the Dodgers. That's it. That's crazy. Brewers at plus 600 Yankees plus 900. Again, this is not against the Dodgers. Just like that's not good value for a world series winner at this point in time. Do not do that right now. That, That shouldn't change much, even if the Dodgers have a good year heading into the playoffs. There's just too many things that could go wrong, injuries, whatever. Do you agree with me, Kratz? Plus 250, you're not getting enough value for a World Series winner at that price.
00:30:36
Speaker 1: No, they're not baiting me in on that one, so I got to be patient. They might start out like two and three in the beginning of the season, and I might get up to like 300 if that's what the number is. The one that surprises me here is the Cubs at plus 1,400. Braves, no. I get that. Yankees, they're just hedging themselves because they know there's going to be a lot of people that are going to put something down on the Yankees. To me, the value on this board is probably at the Braves at $ 1, 300.
00:31:14
Speaker 3: Okay. Why the Cubs?
00:31:18
Speaker 1: Glaring hole. Glaring hole. I mean, they had the best defense in the game, one of the best offenses, and 30th in starting rotation. So hard for a team that doesn't spend recklessly to take care of all of that. We just had a long segment with Sahadeh DeSharma, and I just think it's an uphill climb. I don't think the Cubs are there as far as a team, especially losing your, like, one of your captains and Ian Happ. Like I think there's, there's a lot. Carson Kelly is a free agent too. We didn't even get to him. Like there's a lot that they're, that they have to for right now. I just don't think that numbers where I would even come close to touching it.
00:32:03
Speaker 3: One more for me, Todd father, the race of a new ownership group. They're just a year in. Maybe they do bring some people back or also spend a little money in free agency. They're plus 2,200. That's the same as the Guardians. The Red Sox are ahead of them. The Yankees are way ahead of them.
00:32:22
Speaker 1: Scott, does the win the World Series?
00:32:24
Speaker 4: I got you.
00:32:25
Speaker 3: They never won. Yeah, but then why do the Yankees get the plus 900 piece?
00:32:30
Speaker 1: The
Yankees are closer. How about that?
00:32:35
Speaker 4: Todd? I don't know.
00:32:39
Speaker 5: It's hard. Now, every time you see this, you've got to take in two things. Well, obvious free agency and injuries too. Like, is Judge going to be healthy? Is Stanton going to be back pitching without Stanton? There's a lot of unknowns. So, I think this is a little bit early to kind of judge and figure out. But if you're looking for like a bang for your buck, maybe the Phillies get like two dogs that come in and then it'll go up. So, that's why it's gambling. I think Brewers are Plus 600? That's a good one right now for me. That's something I'd be looking at right there.
00:33:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, young team, capable of repeating.
00:33:21
Speaker 4: I feel like that's really high. I feel like it's high.
00:33:25
Speaker 3: What do you think it should be?
00:33:27
Speaker 4: I think it should be closer to what the Dodgers are, plus 250.
00:33:30
Speaker 3: Oh, you think it should be the other way, plus 250? Yeah.
00:33:33
Speaker 1: Wow.
00:33:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I really do.
00:33:35
Speaker 5: They got everybody, pretty much everybody coming back. So, I mean, who says that they don't make another run at this thing?
00:33:41
Speaker 4: That's all.
00:33:42
Speaker 3: That could be your value pick then. You could six X on that.
00:33:45
Speaker 1: Cause it's really hard. Cause it's really hard to, it is.
00:33:47
Speaker 3: Hard to repeat. Sure.
00:33:50
Speaker 4: Sure. All right.
00:33:52
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00:34:13
Speaker 5: Okay, Kratzy, here we are again, man. How many times do we have to tell people to get the best tickets in the house? Where do we got to go? We got to go to SeatGeek. It's been worth it so many times, so many years. The green light will let you know when it is time to go and the best seats available. The red will let you know if it's not the best. Kratzy, tell them how easy it is.
00:34:32
Speaker 1: Todd, I know it's easy, but I'm looking for the deals because that's what I do. Even so much, like we're getting such a good deal. I want you to come across the river. and we'll go to a Sixers game together. I don't know where to sit in the stadium, but it'll let me know that it's a perfect view because I'm not a big NBA fan, but I gotta go see the Sixers play with LeBron and the boys.
00:34:55
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00:34:56
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00:35:13
Speaker 6: At the start of the 2026 Arizona Fall League, Major League Baseball quietly started testing new outfield positioning rules. These rules regulated where the outfielders could play, with corner outfields starting much shallower and closer to the line and centerfielders also starting shallower. The goal was to increase the offensive output and especially more extra base hits in the gaps. And to say that is what it has accomplished is an understatement. Runs are up substantially with a 34% increase compared to games at all other parks. In Salt River, there's been an average of 15.9 runs per game. All other parks are over four runs per game less. Doubles are up 81% at Salt River, with an average of almost five per game. The increase in triples has been even more dramatic, with a 236% increase. There's been an average of 2.2 triples per game in Salt River, but if MLB's goal was to increase balls in play and extra base hits, they are accomplishing that so far.
00:36:05
Speaker 3: Grats.
00:36:07
Speaker 1: I hate it.
00:36:08
Speaker 4: I hate it.
00:36:10
Speaker 1: I hate helicopter parenting. I hate helicopter coaching. I hate helicopter– let the players play the game however the heck they want to play it. You want to create– well, let's create more offense. Okay, well, let's move the mound back. Let's move it down. Let's do all these things. Like I just am– I'm against it.
00:36:35
Speaker 5: Kratzy, I love where you're at right now because it's usually me saying how much I dislike some things. And for you to start it off like that with your jacket on, I freaking love it, man.
00:36:48
Speaker 4: Awesome, awesome. What are we doing? Kratzy, that's what you should have said. What are we doing?
00:36:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are we doing here? Yo, are we nickel and diamond? Are we riding the wave? I should have used some Todd phrases.
00:37:02
Speaker 4: Oh, listen, my guy, okay? What are we doing out there in the outfield?
00:37:08
Speaker 5: I wish, you know, I'd still probably be playing right now if that was the case, my guy.
00:37:12
Speaker 4: Come on.
00:37:14
Speaker 1: Well, it's like the whole shift thing. I remember talking to Ryan Howard about it, and he was like, oh, man, if they had banned the shift back in this day, I said, big piece. I was like, if they had banned the shift, you could have made them ban the shift. You think you go four for four with four bunts to the left side, they're going to stop at some point?
00:37:34
Speaker 4: Nope.
00:37:35
Speaker 1: How about eight for eight? How about, like, you make the decisions that you make. I'm sorry. Like, I just, why do we have to, oh, we want more action. You want more injuries from pitchers, too? Like, is that fine? Like, we're just overlooking that because these dudes got to throw more pitches. Oh, we got to strike guys out more. So we're going to throw hard? Like, stop. Stop with
that.
00:38:01
Speaker 3: More free agents just emerging with, you know, options and all kinds of stuff. So I think the list is up to maybe in the one 30 something range, but, um, Bob Nightingale posted some more that just hit it. Uh, Zach Acklin, we talked about Sonny gray.
00:38:18
Speaker 4: What's up. Uh, the name I keep looking at is, is Michael King. He's very intriguing. Uh, that that's a dude right there that can be a two or three on any ball club.
00:38:31
Speaker 5: So for me, I see all the names, uh, Could there be a reunion back in New York?
00:38:37
Speaker 4: I don't know.
00:38:38
Speaker 5: I think their pitching's pretty good right now, but I just, I like him a lot.
00:38:44
Speaker 4: That's all.
00:38:44
Speaker 5: And I think he could help any team out. He's just, he's really chilled too. And he, you know, Kratzy, I think I might've said this to you before. He kind of has that Roy Halladay kind of throwing motion and everything to him. So it's, I know you've probably heard that before too, but it's a beautiful thing.
00:39:02
Speaker 1: I talked to him about it. I talked to him about it and they both prepared the exact same way. I mean, it was, and I, I played with him at the beginning of his career. Well, I mean, in AAA and the big leagues, but just the way they both went about it stuff. And I mean, his ball is both directions.
00:39:19
Speaker 4: Oh my God.
00:39:20
Speaker 1: Stay healthy this year and he's going to get paid.
00:39:24
Speaker 3: Can I add one more, Tweets coming in here as we're wrapping up the show for the weekend. Ken Rosenthal, I think either– yeah, he said, Mariners still searching for a manager, but they add C.J. Gilman as their hitting coach. He comes up with that one with Spencer Nussbaum and Chandler Rome all teaming up there. I'm always curious about the hires. We're going to find out about the Mariners any moment now. Why wouldn't you announce the manager first? Aren't they involved in picking?
00:39:50
Speaker 1: Are they waiting? Come on.
00:39:52
Speaker 4: For what?
00:39:53
Speaker 3: Waiting for what? I mean, just for the rest of the.
00:39:57
Speaker 1: Brewers celebration and then their Friday MLB 6 o'clock dump.
00:40:03
Speaker 3: To say that they hired a manager?
00:40:06
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Isn't that a good thing?
00:40:10
Speaker 4: I don't know.
00:40:11
Speaker 3: It makes no sense, right? Like if Joe Espada is your selection, what are you waiting on? You can make your announcement today, and then you're hiring the hitting coach? I don't know. I don't get it. Maybe there's more in the story that I'm missing.
00:40:24
Speaker 1: Maybe Jerry DiPoto is like, I am sick of seeing what I've seen. I'm hiring a hitting coach, not the manager.
00:40:32
Speaker 4: Crazy, man.
00:40:34
Speaker 3: Publicly then, still just announce the manager first.
00:40:38
Speaker 1: How about Bobby McGill? You don't have to announce the hitting coach first. Anyway.
00:40:44
Speaker 3: Well, it leaked, but still, I don't know. All right, let's slap. I'm going to do two Bob Nightingale tweets, one of our insiders. So first off, he said, Hall of Fame catcher Ted Simmons said, I was asked about the World Series title and what it means after losing Game 7 in the 1982 World Series. He said it was horrible. Never got over it. None of us did. We're now over it because this group has made it happen for all of us. Robin Yount had similar comments. So I think that's super cool. And then last one, we got to shout this out, guys, because it is so difficult to do. Bob Nightingale had a perfect bracket. He picked everything right in the bracket for the entire postseason. And people do not waste time going after Bob anytime they can. Including on predictions. Oh, that's the worst predictions ever. Bob picked the perfect bracket.
00:41:42
Speaker 4: God bless him. Bobby Bones. Good call, man. When you know, you know.
00:41:48
Speaker 3: He had the Rays beating the Yanks. He had the Guardians getting to the ALCS. Bobby did it. How many people had perfect brackets first try just now?
00:41:58
Speaker 1: Good for you, Bobby. That's good. That's good. I thought I did good, but I didn't do that good.
00:42:03
Speaker 4: Perfect.
00:42:04
Speaker 3: Perfect.
00:42:04
Speaker 4: Perfect.
00:42:06
Speaker 3: People came for him because he said Milwaukee in six, not five.
00:42:09
Speaker 4: Oh, my. Shut up. No, it wasn't perfect. It wasn't perfect overall. Yeah. Happy Halloween, people.
00:42:18
Speaker 3: Can't wait to see Todd Father Vicks.
00:42:20
Speaker 4: Brew Crew. Love and life.