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How do we start this again?
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Welcome to Fantastic with a Fancasting Podcast.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't even know if we remember it.
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That's right.
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I think we go, hey everybody.
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Welcome to the Loretta.
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I'm Loretta.
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And I'm Emily.
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You're not Loretta.
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I'm not Emily.
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I'm Loretta.
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And I'm Emily.
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And this is Fantastic, the Fancasting Podcast, where we fancast all your favorite fantasy, romantic, and fiction.
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Bitch, it's like riding a bike.
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Let's go.
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Welcome back.
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Summer break who?
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Summer break.
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Summer break who.
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Um.
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Summer break us.
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We had a summer break.
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We took a break.
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Well deserved.
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We read a lot of shit.
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Uh, we're back now, and we're back with a bunch of new listeners.
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Hi, everybody.
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New listeners, new subscribers.
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Hi, everybody.
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We met at Forbidden Love.
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Hello.
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Welcome to Fantastic.
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If you are new here and this is your first episode now you're watching, or hopefully, since you started following us on YouTube or Spotify or Apple or wherever you found us and you are listening, go back and listen to the rest and then meet us here as we begin season three.
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Season three.
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That's crazy.
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Isn't that crazy?
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Kind of crazy.
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So Monday was August 31st.
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So the inception of this podcast hit its two-year anniversary.
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That's amazing.
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Isn't that fucking crazy?
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On the other side of this wall.
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On the other side of that of that wall.
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Why am I pointing behind me?
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This wall.
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This on the other side of the picture this.
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On the other side of the bookshelf is a dining room table.
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At which point we ate breakfast burritos and came up with this podcast.
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Boom.
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That's where the idea came.
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And and we're here two years later, which is crazy.
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And then I'm well, and then it kicked off in February, and then you joined.
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But then, you know, you've always been there.
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So I took a second to be comfortable being a part of it and being on camera, but now I just fine.
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Now we're now we're on fun.
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Now Emily's getting uh 35,000 view uh Instagram reels.
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Okay, girl.
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Yeah, that's a little crazy.
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My boobs look really good in that video.
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And you're and you were like, uh-huh.
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And all like the elder emo boys were like, who's that?
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Wow.
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I love it was like look at the people who have liked it.
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It's like all elder emo men.
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Good for you.
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Meanwhile, I'm running around my house in a fucking caftan.
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And I'm like, I'll do content if my boobs can be out.
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Or your feet.
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Or my feet.
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In this economy.
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Be free.
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It's for the first one is free.
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The first foot is free.
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And then after that, you have to pay for the feet.
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Follow us on OnlyFans.
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Just kidding.
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We don't have that yet.
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This is a book podcast.
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Anyways.
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Um everyone's like, what is this podcast?
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Oh, yeah.
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So if you're new here, we were doing a call to action, right?
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We're four minutes and 29 seconds into this episode.
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We're still cooked.
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Okay.
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Okay, we got one.
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Okay.
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New listeners, you.
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We're talking to you.
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I did my Nick Cage voice.
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We're talking to you.
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Thank you for following us.
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You will find us on Instagram.
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We love that.
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And soon you are going to find us on another top secret platform that we are very excited to announce very soon.
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It's very cool.
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Let's jump in.
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What the hell have we been up to since uh we are on break?
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Uh reading.
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Should we start with reading?
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I mean, yeah.
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It's a book podcast, so that seems a book podcast now that we haven't talked about books for the first six minutes.
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Maybe we'll let's talk about some.
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What did we read?
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Emily, what did you read?
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Read some books.
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Since we last met, I finished, read and finished Shield of Sparrows and Rights of the Starling by Debbie Perry.
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Third book coming out in March.
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Um, I liked it.
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You and another friend that I also read at the same time did not love all the questions and did not love all of the wandering, I believe.
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I like wasn't as bothered.
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I think it's because I'm not a guessing reader.
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Like I don't try, I don't ask questions while I read.
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So I was like, great, she's doing it for me.
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Fantastic.
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Um, and then I feel like Debbie really took the wandering right up as far as it could go before I would get annoyed about how separate they were.
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And she like found the line and then she was like, okay, they're back.
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Also, the horse is dead.
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And I was like, Oh my god, unwell.
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Yeah.
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I am unwell about the horse.
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I did not like that.
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But I quite liked it.
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I am very interested to see the to see what happens in the third book.
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I liked those.
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Yeah.
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Um, what else did I read?
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Oh, I read Night in Them Off because I am also reading Fresh Hot Off the Presses.
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Hot Off the Presses, um, which as of taping came out yesterday.
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I am six chapters in.
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I fucking love Rachel Gilly.
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The writing is so pretty.
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It is so poetic.
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Um and I'm not gonna say anything else about it because it just came out, and I think that that's mean.
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So, but it's beautiful.
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The writing is beautiful, it's really lovely.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Um, we did yeah, oh, go ahead.
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I know I was just gonna say, I'm really glad that not I haven't seen a lot about it yet.
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Yeah.
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Like I think everyone's taking the say the precaution of like, there's events going on, right?
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Like Dragon Con is happening this weekend.
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And everyone's like, let's give everybody time to read it and not be like, I'm done, you know, and be the first person to be like, here's my video on my review, and here's what I think.
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Blah, blah, blah.
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Like, don't be those people.
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Um give it a breath.
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Yeah.
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And I haven't seen that in the last 24 hours.
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So yeah.
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Here's to hoping.
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Here's to hoping.
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Here's to hoping.
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Yeah.
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Uh, you and I read some books together in preparation for another cool thing that we did over the summer, which we'll talk about in a second.
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Uh, we read Secrets of Jane, Invoking the Blood, and Gilded Wicked Mirrors, so we could introduce dark romance genre.
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We sure did.
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We the only one we didn't get to was Choke.
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Choke.
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Um that was on our list.
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It's still on our list.
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We're going to get to it, but we didn't get to it before.
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Um Yeah.
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Secrets of Jane was a quick fucking favorite.
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Secrets of Jane is fantastic.
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It's so great.
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Um it I love it.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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I loved it.
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I loved it.
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Uh Invoking the Blood.
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I know that you really like the magic system.
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The with the rings.
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I liked the uh, I liked the female main character.
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I really like the author.
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I like I my biggest problem with it is like I really didn't like her sister.
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Like the female main character's sister.
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This uh spar
what Sparrow?
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Yeah.
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I she grates on me, but like she goes away and then it's fine.
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Like when she's not there, it's great.
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Otherwise, I love it's great.
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Hades and Persephone.
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Obviously, I love Persephone.
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She's right there.
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Um so very into that.
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Uh vampire.
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It's also vampires.
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It's great.
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Yeah, Gilded Wicked Mirrors, I love because of the subtle, not so subtle Hazel uh Titanic references.
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There's the RMS Colossal.
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And that was like clocked it right away.
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I was like, oh my God.
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And then when we had talked to her, I was like, was that a Titanic thing?
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And she was like, yeah, for sure.
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I'm obsessed with the Titanic.
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And I was like, fuck, I knew I liked you.
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Knew it.
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Knew it.
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Um, Emily.
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Loretta.
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You are the only one who has read this.
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We got talk about my girl.
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Yes, we got an early arc.
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Thank you to NetGalley for giving us baby's first arc.
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We have a whole bunch of them that we are working through right now, too.
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Um, and Raven, we will get you a review, a written formal review at some point.
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But right now, Emily's gonna give you a verbal review because you got to read.
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I got to read Sweetest Fiend, uh, which is Raven Kennedy's Pied Piper duology coming out later this month.
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I'm obsessed with Raven Kennedy.
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Um, I love Play to Prisoner.
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I will say if you if you liked Play to Prisoner, but you didn't like the pace of the first two books, that is not an issue in this book because it's a duology.
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We get right into it real fucking quick.
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We understand what the conflicts are, we understand our girl, we understand where we're going.
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Like we understand we start moving right really, really, really quickly into the book.
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Um, magic system is fascinating.
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Uh, it it's this is not a spoiler because it is the Pied Piper, so there are plagues that are uh plaguing the town.
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Is that right?
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I think so.
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And then he's getting hit by plagues, and then the Pied Piper shows up with his little pipe um to save the people from the town of uh our girl is kidnapped by the Pied Piper.
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What could possibly happen after that?
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Um, who's to say, really?
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Who's to say what?
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They just like they actually don't ever speak again and they never interact in any way, and they definitely don't fall in love.
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Um The ending is nuts.
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It ends on a crazy cliffhanger and made me really angry.
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I because here's the thing about arcs now is I'm now even farther away from the next book coming out.
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Um this book isn't even out, and I need to know what happens in book two.
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Uh and you read this like a month ago.
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I read it a while ago, yeah.
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Um the ending is it's a lot.
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It's something.
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I'm trying really hard.
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I'm really bad at giving spoilers.
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I'm trying really hard to do.
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You cannot do spoilers.
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Raven will kill us.
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Raven don't show up in the middle of the night like the Pied Piper and bash us over the head with a flute.
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No, he just plays the flute.
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And then it magically makes you follow him.
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And you're like, No, but I'm saying Raven will bash us over the head with the Pied Piper's flute if we give anything away.
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Um how many stars?
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4.7.
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Oh my god.
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I really liked it.
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I thought it was really good.
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How many chili peppers?
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I it's actually not a super chili pepper-y book.
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I think the St.
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Second book is probably gonna be more chili pepper-y.
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Um, there are definitely chili peppers, um, but it's not the main thing yet.
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Like dose?
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Maybe like trace, dose or trace chili peppers.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I'm gonna stick with that.
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It has actually been a while since I've read it.
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Yeah.
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Uh for for let's go 4.5 stars, trace chili peppers.
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Here's my one beef
with it, if I may, without Raven Kennedy killing me.
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Yeah.
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Um, I hate faded mates.
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I don't like it.
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I would like people to be with each other because they want to be with each other, not because fate decided that they should be with each other.
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But what I hate even more is when you have fated mates and you've decided you don't want to call them faded mates because everybody else calls them fated mates, and so you come up with a new word, which would normally be fine, and I would be totally cool with it.
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Wait, I forgot.
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You forgot about this day.
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I thought you forgot this.
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I went to say, but um, there's a new word for mates in this book, and I'm not gonna say it because I want you to read it and experience it with your own ears and your own eyeballs.
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Um, but she has picked a new word, and that is her prerogative as a writer.
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And frankly, I like that we're trying something new, and I do I do like that.
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I do not like the word, the word's gotta go.
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I'm so sorry, Raven.
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I love you so much.
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Please don't hate me.
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The word's gotta go.
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We're not tagging her in this.
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If she's if she sees this, she's watched the whole or listened to the whole episode.
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We're not tagging her in this portion.
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I do really love the book.
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I just that word really like takes me out of it.
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I'm so sorry.
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100%.
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100%.
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When you texted it to me, I think I sent you the gif of the the uh what?
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What?
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Like I was like, why?
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I just just we why are we reinventing the wheel?
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Yeah, they're faded mates, they're mates.
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It's like that's what it is.
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And just prefaded mates.
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There's a like a little bit more to it than that.
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There's a the actual relationship is slightly different, so I get why she wanted to pick a different word.
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Um just not that one, just a different one.
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Yeah, 100%.
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Okay.
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Um, you also read Butcher and the Blackbird.
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I did, I loved it.
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It was a fucking delight.
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I love it.
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Okay.
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They're serial killers and they also kidnap each other, and it's amazing, and I love it.
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She's got a thing with eyeballs.
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Yeah, she gouges on people with eyeballs.
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Okay, everyone's talking about like right now on threads, is like they're calling Alfred Weaver to be like, what is your eyeball fetish?
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And she's like, I like the squish of them, and like she's crazy and in like a wonderful way.
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Like, she's so funny.
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I love her.
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The um premise is that the female maid character and male maid character are both serial killers, but they kill other serial killers.
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So they're like good serial killers, and then they become they like meet each other and they sort of start this competition where his brother, who's like a hitman for the mob or something, identifies some bad guy, and then they have like a week to like live in the town where the bad guy is, figure out who the bad guy is, and whoever kills him first wins.
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Okay, and this series is the leather and lark series.
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Yeah.
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Second one.
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There's three.
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But Jim Blackbird, Leather and Lark, and Scythe and Sparrow.
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So it's the three brothers and their three female partners.
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Cool.
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Okay.
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Also, the brothers are Irish, and so the voice actor is Irish.
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It's all done.
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I like that was good.
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That was good.
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Yeah.
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I gotta get into some Bryn Weaver because it's delightful.
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Positively, she a freak.
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And I think I'm I think I'm like her as a person.
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Her thing as a serial killer is she stages like super elaborate crime scenes to fucking die, and part of it is she her eyeballs out.
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But she doesn't gouge them.
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She like she says she plucks them out, and part of his like picking at her is he's like, it looks a little gougy.
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It's a little messy.
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And she's like, fuck you.
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I do a precise, perfect job.
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Oh my god, that's so funny.
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It's really good.
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I like it.
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It's like a Dexter love story.
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--> 00:15:21.679
I'm into it.
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It's cute.
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I love that.
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Um, anything else new?
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No.
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I started my Akatar reread and I am on Akahwar.
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We're both on Akahuar, re-listen, which is kind of cuckoo crazy.
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Um, real quick, yeah, I I did Shield of Sparrows and Rights of Starling as well.
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Um, yeah, not my favorite.
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Definitely not my favorite series.
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I will continue it because I I gotta I gotta see it through.
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I've spent two books worth the these characters.
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Um, I figured out the Rights of the Starling stuff pretty quickly.
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Um I and I immediately, and I think I texting you and you're like, I don't know.
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And I was like, I'm right to Friend of the Pod Mary at lunch when you texted me that and I showed it to her, and she was like, Yeah, Emily, you're a fucking idiot.
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Thank you.
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No.
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Not Mary calling you up.
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Never calling me that, but she was like, I was kind of like, yeah, man.
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Yeah, dude.
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Like, yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, right away I was like, oh, she's I sorry, spoiler.
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I'm gonna cut that.
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Major spoiler of the entire second book.
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I'll beef it out.
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Oops.
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Wow.
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Um my god.
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Um, I'm not here to solve your problem for you.
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I want I want you to tell me when you are ready.
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Yes, I'm I need to solve it.
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I'm sitting there being like, what's going on?
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The fuck is going on with fuck shit?
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I'm gonna figure it out.
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And then, and I think you're right.
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Like, that's why the questions were driving me nuts because I had my own questions and then she had 10 questions in a row, and I was like, Odessa, shut the fuck up.
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Like I don't need your that is a good question.
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Yeah.
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I'm sitting here being like, girl, I asked that 10 pages ago.
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Um I have I have something I need to scream about for this book.
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And I wrote it down in a note so I wouldn't forget.
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Actually, reading.
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Okay, go for it.
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Uh uh, okay.
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What the fuck does wind smell like?
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She does say that a lot, doesn't she?
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It is it is I'm losing my mind.
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It is the description of the man.
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I'm trying not to like spoil things here, right?
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The man that she is into in this book, she says smells of leather and wood and something else smelly and wind.
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And every time wind is in the description.
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Wind has to smell like what it is picking up.
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Like it smells like grass or dust or the ocean or like like a fart?
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Like, what does he smell like?
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Oh a fart.
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Like I just pretty hot.
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So I'm gonna just pretend he's not fart.
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Like he's got it.
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Um and see on the floor.
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I was like, it's like, yeah, it's whatever his whofting is it's gonna whoft something.
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That's the wind.
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It's a like breeze where it's like linen in fresh sky or something.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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But like I yeah, that it drove me nuts.
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It drove me nuts.
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I I literally wrote it down because I was like, I think this is the thing that makes me the most angry.
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You just know making a ransom candle that's like smells like wind.
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Can we have one?
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Smells like wind question mark.
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I mean like what does wind smell like?
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Anyways, that was uh my qualm with that.
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And also, if you told me to tell you what happened at the end of Rights of the Starling, I couldn't.
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I don't remember how it ends.
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I remember what happens to Bleep to South.
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I don't remember what Odessa and Ransom are up to.
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Me neither.
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I know that they go back to Quintus.
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I feel like my brain shut off at the finding out about her dad.
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Okay, I could not remember how that book ended.
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It was very crazy.
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Um, I haven't started reading it yet, but I got Magpie, which is Parker A.
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Gardner's book that I will be narrating.
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Oh, that's so exciting.
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00:19:53.119
Is this the winner?
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This was our winner.
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The winner of one of my the raffle uh for my narrating stuff at the next thing we should talk about, uh, which is Forbidden Love.
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Um, I did a little raffle there and I gave away a free audiobook narration and Parker A.
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Gardner won.
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She was very excited, and she sent me a signed copy with a little signed.
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So cute.
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And I'm really excited about it.
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Uh, it's got like tarot cards and crows on it and stuff.
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So I was like, wow, right up my alley.
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Um pretty pumped about it.
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Speaking of Forbidden Love.
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Yes.
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Baby's first con.
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Babies first con in the books.
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Um a whirlwind of a weekend.
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Yes.
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Um, it was like a m literally a month ago.
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Today it ended.
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Why does it feel like it was three months ago?
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I don't know.
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August is a long time.
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August was three years.
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Um just don't understand.
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It alarms me that that was a month ago.
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That was only a month ago.
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Isn't that crazy?
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Yeah, that feels like a year ago.
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I feel like a hundred things have happened since then.
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We got several hundred followers.
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Uh, we met so many fucking cool people.
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Cosplayers, authors.
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Everyone is incredible.
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We had so much fun.
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Um my god!
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Henry, okay.
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This is so fun because I had never listened to the graphic audio.
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Oh, and now you sniff it.
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And now I'm literally just going, that's just Henry.
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Henry.
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We're friends, we're friends now.
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Like, this is crazy.
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So weird.
00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:54.079
It was weird listening to it again, knowing like having met it's having met him, and he's just like a lovely human being, like lovely, and had like such a good argument for why Tamlin may not all be that bad, even though I still think he sucks.
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Sorry.
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I just finished the High Lord meeting scene, so now's maybe not the best prime for me to talk.
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About Tamlin's redemption arc because I would like to strangle that man.
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Fair.
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Uh that's not his signing moment.
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For sure.
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How happening at that time?
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When he does something moderately redeemable.
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Yeah.
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Currently a sentence.
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Yeah.
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What else happened at Forbidden Love?
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Uh wait, it's not our new favorite band.
00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:26.480
Obsessed.
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Neoni.
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Hello.
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They were so good.
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Um, they're going on tour and they're not coming to Los Angeles.
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I've chosen to take that personally.
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Obviously.
00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:47.920
Yeah, I don't feel good about it because now I know the words to all of their songs, and now I can't scream Wonderland out loud.
00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:50.720
Oh my god, the one with the cool gun sounds.
00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:51.759
Yeah.
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I love all of it.
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I've been listening to it on reviews.
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It's so good.
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So they have another one coming out that they're singing with some guy.
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I saw a video of it.
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I haven't listened to it yet.
00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:05.680
Um, so good.
00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:08.799
We briefly mentioned we did a panel.
00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:17.279
So why we read Secrets of Jane, Invoking the Blood, Gilded Wicked Mirrors, and Why Choke is still on our list is because we moderated the Dark Romance panel.
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And I think I think it went so good.
00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:22.880
Yeah.
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Like uh everyone had fun.
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It was very interactive.
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I was really proud of us.
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We made like some adjustments in the moment, too, based on time.
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And I think that the authors had a good time.
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Everyone seemed really happy with it.
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We met Jasmine, who we're both obsessed with.
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I might be in love with her.
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So we're not.
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No.
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No, she's here.
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She lives by us.
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We need to hang out with her.
00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:50.880
She's like walking the red carpet for every freaking thing
that's opening in the city.
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:51.680
Very cool.
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Oh my god.
00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:54.160
She's so cool.
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So nice.
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She's not a good one.
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She didn't be as helpful to us when she learned that we were new and didn't know what we were doing.
00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:11.119
And she was so helpful and so kind and so reassuring and like made everybody follow us on Instagram and was just a lovely little gem of a person.
00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:11.519
Yeah.
00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:14.319
Absolutely adore her.
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Shout out, Jasmine.
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We love you.
00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:16.799
The ball was great.
00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:18.640
The ball was super fun.
00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:19.839
It was very crowded.
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Very crowded.
00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:24.160
I had a little panic attack and had we had to leave early, but we got really cute photos.
00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:27.279
We got really cute photos and lots of good content.
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And we saw a lot of people and like got to hang out with them.
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It was really wonderful.
00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:35.519
It was uh in a public park.
00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:41.839
Um, so there were randos like trying to get in, and uh it just like made us a little bit uncomfortable.
00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:51.920
Yeah, and also like trying to interact with people who are trying to take content and photos outside and not like super great, perhaps a perimeter next time of some sort.
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:57.680
Yeah, like there was a lot of all of our boobs were basically out, right?
00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:00.000
Like we're you know, we're cosplay convention.
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:04.960
People be wearing all sorts of stuff, and like obviously it's eye-catching and attention grabbing.
00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:09.119
That's literally the entire point of yeah, it yeah.
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:10.960
Um just felt a little odd.
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:19.359
And then it was like kind of walking distance to our hotel, so we would have loved, I think loved to walk, but also did not.
00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:21.759
Did not feel safe, didn't feel safe to walk.
00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:23.680
So yeah.
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And we live in LA and it didn't feel safe to walk in Nashville.
00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:28.960
We're easily walking outside.
00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:33.039
Yeah, there was just some very intense bro we men that were yucky.
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Um that would be my only qualm for it.
00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:40.079
Uh I didn't hear of anything happening while we were there.
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:51.920
I I know that there was some trouble with the l lines and the signings, and some people didn't read the literature that they should have, uh, talking about what is allowed to be signed.
00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:52.799
Yeah.
00:25:53.119 --> 00:26:03.200
And we get back and we're on the plane, and what's trending is Forbidden Love, T and Tropes being a terrible convention.
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:06.240
I was my flabbers were gasted.
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:09.279
I was so shocked by that news.
00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:14.960
I like maybe because we have not done this very often, but like I had everything we needed.
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:16.640
We had a problem, it was solved.
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:20.640
Yes, the lines were could the line management of the author signings have been better?
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:21.200
For sure.
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:21.839
100%.
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:23.440
It could be everywhere.
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:27.440
Like, that's kind of com com I don't know.
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:31.759
Like, I it didn't really strike me as like I'm gonna go get on the internet and complain about that.
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:32.960
I was just like, it's a convention.
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:35.039
A lot of people want Rachel Gillick's signature.
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:35.920
Right.
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:42.720
Well, and there was so much, there was there was a lot of people that were like, oh my god, my swag bag was empty.
00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:49.279
And it's like, no, can you not read the tier that you paid for has a tote bag?
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:53.039
You're supposed to fill it with the shit that you buy.
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:57.119
Two tiers above that has a swag bag of stuff.
00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:00.480
You got a tote bag.
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:01.279
Right.
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:11.200
Uh there's a a lot of influencers that I had kind of talked about or talked with about this because I was like, did you guys experience something bad?
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:13.599
Like, did we miss something as vendors?
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:19.359
Like, did we completely just tunnel vision be like, Do you want a fan cast with us?
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:20.319
We're having a great time.
00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:22.000
Like a game.
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:23.119
We don't do it.
00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:25.839
That's right.
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.000
We were being jigsawed at everybody who walked by being like, Do you want to play a game?
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:31.759
And they were like, What the fuck?
00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:34.240
We're just trying to give you free shit.
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:36.799
If you follow me on the internet.
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.519
That's literally all we were doing was like, get follow us on Instagram and we'll give you free things.
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.240
And so many people were like, Yay, great.
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:46.559
And then there were a slight few that was like, no, thanks.
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:48.960
And I was like, okay.
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:50.400
Okay, then leave.
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:57.359
Don't leave your empty Pepsi bottle on our
table.
00:27:57.759 --> 00:27:59.759
People kept leaving trash on our table.
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:01.519
I was getting really fucking mad.
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:12.000
Um, anyways, I was talking to some of the influencers, and they were like, we didn't experience anything over La La Line.
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:25.519
And one of the influencers that I will that will remain nameless, um, said that the only complaint that they had had was with like the water station, like the water fountains went out of order.
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.240
That is not the the event's fault.
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:30.000
That is the venue's fault.
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:30.880
Yeah.
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:38.799
And and it seems like the local PA staff that was hired for the venue was the problem.
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:49.839
And so when people go rushing online to shit talk an event where there I feel like there's been many events where totally valid.
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:53.119
There are still authors who have gotten nothing from Once Upon a Gone.
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.559
Like they still haven't gotten money from those fucking doubloons madness.
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:57.599
You remember that shit?
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:00.079
Not a not narry a penny still.
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:01.279
Marry a cent.
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:06.160
Not a one cent, not a single doubloon has been really cashed in.
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.319
Is that a Pirates of the Caribbean thing?
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:08.720
Probably.
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:09.200
I don't know.
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:10.559
It is now.
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:11.440
It is now.
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:16.160
But I I don't feel like this was that at all.
00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:29.359
And now if you run online and you say, I had a terrible time at this event and because you think you deserve the world because you paid a couple hundred dollars to go to a thing, I get it.
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.440
Like that's a lot of money to do that.
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:36.720
But like read what you're getting, see what you got, and move on.
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:41.039
If you didn't get something, that would be different, but you just didn't read.
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:41.759
Right.
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:55.599
Definitely not excusing it, but like as somebody who works in marketing for a living, I am like genuinely con and I know we're in a literacy crisis and this is not news, but like people don't read at all.
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:56.319
Nobody.
00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:57.680
They don't read anything.
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:10.240
Like and the amount of times that I get flack of like, well, we should really tell our audiences this, and I'm like, here's 18 emails of me telling the audiences this thing.
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:11.759
Did you read it?
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:16.880
Person who's yelling at me for not communicating the thing that I definitely communicated 18 times.
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:17.440
Mm-hmm.
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.880
I like am genuinely concerned about people's ability to read.
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:25.839
And and it's like people show up at these things and they expect like even like like theater events, right?
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:31.519
Like they expect people to be like, okay, let me here's give me your hand and I'm gonna walk you through it.
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:34.000
And it's like, when did that start happening?
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:39.759
Like, I heard somebody was upset because like we had it was phantom, and so like obviously people will die in phantom.
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:41.839
And there are there are they do?
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:44.880
Just because oh my god, he murders people.
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:47.119
The OG dark romance, no way.
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:50.400
Um and like people didn't know that.
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:58.480
And I was like, I don't know how much clear like obviously we're not gonna say like this person is murdered at this point in the scene, but like dark themes, not for young audiences.
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:00.880
Call our box office if you want to know more.
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:05.279
Like, we will we will tell you if you call us and you're like, what do you mean by dark themes?
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:06.240
We'll be like murder.
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:08.319
Somebody is hung from the thing.
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.279
Yeah, if you if you're like really bothered by that, you really want to know.
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:15.359
But like you gotta do a little bit of work, you gotta try a little bit.
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:18.319
It's been out for a while.
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.799
Yeah, it's also like not new, like yeah, yeah.
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:23.920
People don't moderate.
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:28.000
No, it and and I feel like that that was the the biggest situation.
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:32.160
I think that Brie handled it with Grace, both online with what she said.
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:40.319
Um, I think that uh she deserves kind of an apology from a lot of people that but she'll never get it, which sucks.
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.799
Um, and I think she did a wonderful job.
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:50.240
That girl who made like teen videos about getting a tote bag instead of a swag bag, I was like, you are so dumb.
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:51.440
Fishing.
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:52.640
Fishing.
00:31:53.039 --> 00:32:03.119
You show your registration that you're in tier mortal or whatever, and then show the tear bracket that says mortal gets tote bag, berry or whatever gets swag.
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:06.880
Like you're proving your own idiocy in this video.
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:07.519
Yes.
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.480
We don't even, which is so upsetting.
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:14.160
A tote bag is the the bag is the gift.
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:18.400
A swag bag is a bag full of swag.
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:23.759
Like I just yeah, it's driving me
mental.
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.240
Um overall, we had a wonderful time though.
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:27.519
Yeah, we do love them.
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:29.200
Um we got a move on.
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:32.240
100%.
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:33.279
Um, okay.
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:35.119
Uh personal news.
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:36.400
I'm just gonna share real quick.
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:41.039
Uh I had spine surgery, so that's why we kind of were a little bit quiet online.
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:46.319
Um, but I am healing and we will be back to our regular scheduled programming.
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:50.559
Um, we were gonna have some episodes out maybe a little bit earlier in August.
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.400
Obviously, we started a little bit later.
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:53.680
We're back in September.
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:56.240
Um, and that's the only reason that was happening.
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:59.279
So I am recovering swell.
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:01.680
Uh, and I'm actually doing okay.
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:05.440
Like I've been sitting stationary now for an hour, and I'm doing all right.
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:06.319
Like, that's pretty good.
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:07.920
I have 12 pillows I'm sitting on.
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.799
So as you should, as well, people should at all times.
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:12.240
Oh, yes, Princess and the P.
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.720
Well, I was gonna say, much to the same same level as importance as spine surgery.
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:21.920
My news is I rearranged my bookshelf over the summer and I got a snack tattoo.
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:26.880
Um basically the same levels of stuff happening.
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:32.000
And Emily, you have a very serious PSA about that snack tattoo that you need to tell everybody.
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:37.440
Men go away.
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:38.400
Men go away.
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:40.720
Not that you're here, but if you are great.
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:41.759
That's great.
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:42.400
You can stay.
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:42.880
Okay.
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.680
I'm a pretty like tattooed person.
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:46.640
There's a lot of them.
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:48.640
I have sat through many a tattoo.
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:56.240
Apparently, up until the year of our Lord 2026, I have never been tattooed on my period.
00:33:56.720 --> 00:34:01.839
Don't fucking do that, apparently, because I thought I was gonna die.
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:03.759
I tapped out of this tattoo.
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:07.200
It's not done yet, as you can see by my elbow.
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:14.400
This tattoo, I sat for eight hours in a convention hall in a metal folding chair and was fine.
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:22.800
This tattoo, I was in a comfy cozy studio for six hours, and we maybe did three hours of acting tattooing because I had to keep making her stop.
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:23.199
Yeah.
00:34:23.360 -->
00:34:25.280
Um, and I was like, I don't know what's happening.
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:26.159
I'm so embarrassed.
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:27.599
I don't ever sit like this.
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.000
And she immediately was like, Are you on your period?
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:31.679
And I was like, Yeah.
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:33.360
And she's like, Yeah, it's gonna hurt.
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:34.719
It's gonna hurt really bad.
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.000
I had no idea.
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:40.400
Um I don't know how I ever missed that.
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.599
And I'm surely people are gonna be in the comments and be like, yeah, that's obvious.
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:44.719
Not to me.
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:46.239
Um I didn't know.
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:52.000
Like, I have many, many tattoos, and I guess have just missed that every time.
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:54.159
Uh yeah, don't get tattooed on your period.
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:56.559
It's literally the worst pain I've ever been in in my entire life.
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:58.159
I hated every minute of it.
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:02.880
My tattoo artist is wonderful and lovely, and I would recommend her to everybody.
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:08.000
Um, except for when you're actively bleeding out of your vagina, then I would not recommend to anything.
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:10.719
Don't too much blood loss, too many nerves.
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:12.639
Yeah, so just keep that in mind.
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:16.000
That that is uh hella painful.
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:19.599
Feels like they should teach that to us when they like teach us.
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:24.480
It would be great if like women's health and menstrual cycles taught us anything.
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.719
Were taught to us and studied better and that we knew anything about them.
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:30.719
I hate America.
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:32.480
This is a book podcast.
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:36.480
Um, let's go back to talking about smut.
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:36.719
Okay.
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:38.000
That's that's our thing.
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:44.880
Every time we like veer into like dread and political that we could just go on about for hours, we gotta be like, and we're gonna curb.
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:48.239
But best believe we will be a political if we have a side pony.
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:49.599
I love a side pony.
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:51.599
It feels very Bryce Quinlan.
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:52.880
Thank you.
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:54.400
I knew you'd love that.
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:56.800
I'm honored.
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:58.159
I knew you'd love that one.
00:35:58.320 --> 00:35:59.599
It is, it's very Bryce.
00:35:59.760 --> 00:35:59.920
Yeah.
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:03.039
With their little streak of Danica in there.
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:03.360
Yeah.
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.719
Also, I don't think I was blonde last time we were on this podcast.
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:08.239
So I don't think you were.
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:09.199
I don't think you were.
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:12.320
Oh, I think it might have been for the one episode, but your hair was up.
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:13.199
Oh shit.
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:13.360
Okay.
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:14.719
I think your hair might have been up.
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:16.159
You're blind now.
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:18.159
Um, okay, we got a couple of other things.
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:19.760
We're just gonna run through these real fast.
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:23.599
Uh uh Love Hypothesis trailer dropped.
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:24.800
Looks great.
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:27.280
Forgot that I shit all over the book.
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:29.920
Um, I still feel the way I do about the book.
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:31.440
Very excited to see the movie.
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:32.159
It looks good.
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:36.159
They've done interviews where they say like it does not veer from the book.
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.360
Like they really worked hard to make sure that it is like the book.
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:40.800
I said it would be a good rom-com.
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:41.679
I think it'll be really great.
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:42.480
I can't wait to watch it.
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.280
We talked about Nave of the Moon is being out already.
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:49.119
Okay, two bummer things that happened.
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.719
One is like a glad it happened, call that bitch out.
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:57.519
And this is PB Squamer drama that happened.
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:08.079
Uh mediocre white man calls himself a book boyfriend, was signing books written by Novessa Allen as Josh from Lights Out.
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:10.320
Nobody ever said that he was that.
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.039
He self-proclaimed that he was Josh.
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:16.239
He was invited to a book boyfriend bash thing.
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:17.360
I don't know.
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:22.480
He's literally a mediocre white man who like went through a divorce and has a pedo mustache.
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:23.280
It's really weird.
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:24.960
I don't think he's attractive.
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:26.239
I don't get it.
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:27.440
And that's fine.
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:35.920
Like it's his attractiveness has nothing to do with it unless he is marketing himself as a book boyfriend, and it's very strange.
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:36.639
Anyways.
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:43.360
I would like it noted that I got Botox three days ago, so I can't quite make the face that I want to make at the point.
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:45.760
So your eyebrows would be to your hairline.
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:47.360
Like way up here.
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:48.239
I'll go for you.
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:50.400
It's fresh.
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:51.679
It'll settle in a second.
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:54.320
Um, but there would be
like way up here.
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:54.880
Continue.
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:56.000
I just wanted that noticed.
00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:00.639
And he can't.
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.719
Um, we are so back.
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:14.159
Uh so he goes and makes a video saying, You want me to read your indie book to these small authors.
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:15.760
First of all, fuck you.
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.559
Second of all, you want me to read your book.
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:22.559
You're going to pay me a$200 deposit.
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:31.760
And then I will make the video, whether I like it or not, either ripping it a new asshole or loving it.
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:32.480
Yeah.
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:33.519
And he didn't say that.
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:34.320
I said that.
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:39.280
But hit like him being like, whether it's a good, like, I'm not gonna make up the review.
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:44.000
Um, and pay me$200, and I might say I hate your book.
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:50.239
Yes, and you still have to pay me the$800, and an additional eight hundred dollars.
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.800
So he was charging a thousand dollars.
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:56.079
Now, I don't think he ever did this.
00:38:56.239 --> 00:39:04.480
I think he like came up with it because he was like audacity to say that and put that on God's green internet for the world to see.
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:07.199
Fucking illegal.
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.119
Yeah, that's crazy.
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:16.159
Like, you cannot solicit money for positive reviews.
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:16.880
Yeah.
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:23.039
The federal government does not allow that, and they allow far too much bullshit lately.
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:25.039
But they don't allow that.
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:27.519
So, like, that's the problem that people had with it.
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:33.360
Yeah, that people had with it is like you're committing a crime.
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:40.639
Like, you just admitted you would be committing a crime, and and also we think you're okay.
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:44.079
And also you're taking your meaning we don't like you.
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:45.039
And we don't like you.
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:47.199
Um you're committing a crime.
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:53.199
Yes, and it it fucking divided the book community so quickly.
00:39:53.360 --> 00:40:08.400
And like every single day you log on to threads in the book book community uh like for yes, there are people who are his friends who are also other cosplayers who are also charging three thousand dollars to attend these events.
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:12.639
So it kind of he is an idiot.
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And he said the quiet part out loud, which shone the spotlight of other people, and the people supporting him are also the other people who would be doing these things.
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And that's fine.
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Get your bag, bitches.
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Get your bag.
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Big, big divide within the community when this came up.
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It was the authors being like, holy shit, and then it was the content creators being like, we deserve money too.
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And no one said you didn't.
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Not saying I don't want to pay you, I just don't want to bribe you to see my book is good.
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Right.
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And then the other issue was that sometimes when people put a shitty video out where they say something fucking stupid, people now feel the bravery to come forward and say other stupid shit that they've done.
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And a lot of people came forward saying, like, he said inappropriate things, like he's done this, he's done that.
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And so a lot of other things came out, which I think was it was like two separate issues and big old drama.
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Uh, he gave like a half-assed, you know, apology that's not an apology because he never admitted fault to anything.
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He just justified everything and it was yucky.
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Um, so I he's dead to us, um, which is fine because he doesn't know who we are, and that's fine.
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And I don't care.
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I'm fine with anything.
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I really like Steven Walker, um the Tamlin cosplayer with the really long hair, and they have a podcast together called The Smash Cast, which I have shouted out on our podcast before.
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Him, he him and who?
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Him and him and PB Squamer.
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Peanut butter, peanut butter squammer.
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Oh, which the PB guys stands for pretty boy.
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Well, I'm just gonna let you sit with that.
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I love that for you.
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I don't like it.
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I know, I'm really sorry about that.
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I'm really sorry I had to tell you that.
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That's literally what it stands for.
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You know who we gotta shout out, our girl, Callista.
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Callista fucking went hard on this dude on the internet.
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She was like a boss bitch.
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I love it.
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She was like, fuck you, fuck you, peanut butter.
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Like you went off and she goes, actually, peanut butter's delicious, so I'm not gonna slander that sh and she went ham.
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And then there was a that's where the content creators were like, the way he looks and stuff has nothing to do with it.
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And it's like it doesn't until he's marketing himself to be paid as for his looks.
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You know what I mean?
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Like it's just like, okay, something about this feels yucky.
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And I'm and I'm uh I'm a big fan of uh people calling people out now, which is great.
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I don't love cancel culture, um, but I liked that one.
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Are you looking him up?
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I am please don't tell me you think this man is attractive.
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No, I got okay.
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I was like, I gotta go.
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No, are you insane?
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Are you saying I think this man is attractive?
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Well, you were looking at your phone like this, like you were about to tell me something really upsetting.
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What's really upsetting is that the first thing that comes up is mutual follows, and I am unhappy with a name that I see on the list.
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Is it the friend of the pod?
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No.
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Is it Tyler?
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No, it's not, thank God.
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Maybe he doesn't know.
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He probably knows.
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It was kind of everywhere.
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But that's what I'm saying.
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Is that part of the community stuck by his side his side?
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But it's like a cosplayer.
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Like I think he's just in the
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like book community.
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Well that's why he's hot, but like he's not really a cosplayer.
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Neither is PB Squamour.
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He never cosplayed shit.
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He just he he would show up and act like he's having red lights out now.
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Um I don't he was telling people that Nevassa Allen wrote Josh's character after him which is fucking false.
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And she's been like, I do not know this man.
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I do not know this man.
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Like this is crazy.
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Yeah.
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Okay, we said we will go quick through this, but clearly I know.
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So they it was I was so attached to my phone during that time period, which was really probably not healthy at all.
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But because I was just was I was so disappointed seeing who was still supporting him after what he said when it was just like point blank disgusting and wrong.
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Okay, let's move on.
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Another disgusting and wrong thing.
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Um HM Wolf releases Daggermouth.
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Yes not disgusting and wrong amazing we love HM Wolf.
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You know what is disgusting and wrong?
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When the fucking Atlantic drops an article the day before accusing her a black female author of AI with no context with no facts nothing to back that shit up.
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And guess what?
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You know what the worst part is she is the fourth author of color that has been accused of AI right before their release release date.
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I hate it.
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I hate everything about it.
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This one I am disgusting and I do know like I you do not need to fill me in I know what happened uh and it is horrific and terrible and crazy.
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Horrific tale crazy and the community backed up the fuck out of her which is amazing.
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We all were like stop sharing the article fuck this guy stop saying his name this day is about her I think how she handled it was so graceful and beautiful.
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She gave it no attention and was like this is my moment I'm really glad that she didn't let that fucking worm of a man take that away from her I am huge props to her huge props to her we still we have the arc of it that we still got to read I did buy the hard copy um when it came out because there were signed copies and so I grabbed it and our bonus we did release books not at the exact same time as literally other every other author in the world I have no idea so many so many hours in the day.
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We literally I'm so glad that we're doing aquatar through the rest of the year because and then up until Sweetest because we have so much to read.
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I have to use the rest of the year to read new books while simultaneously catching up on Avatar that's all we can do.
00:46:51.840 --> 00:47:09.360
Okay speaking of Avatar Avatar six and seven titles came out okay a court of splintered harmony and a court of forgotten melody thoughts I like it I'm into I love them I'm into it actually seem to be the only person on the internet who does remember who Kroche is which is exciting for me because normally I don't remember stuff.
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But I'm into it I like the Valkyrie I like the pre I like the premise I like um that we still don't know whose point of view it is um I'm into it.
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Yeah same uh covers came out they're like an ombre pink teal with like a yellow which kind of is making people think it's like a night court aqua day court dawn court stuff with like putting the colors in order to see the timeline which I think were a little bit too much to be honest with you.
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But um whatever floats your boat.
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I do feel like
there's a lot of people trying to fill in the blanks before the book comes out which kind of drives me cuckoo nanas if I'm being completely honest.
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I think people have uh been getting a little bit annoying online trying to like solve it right yeah I think people forced her to drop them early and I'm fucking pissed off about it.
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Let let us have nice things girl fantasy fangirls ruined it I don't care I'm gonna say it.
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Do it I I am so pissed that they did that go searching through and everyone's like it's available if you check a web browser's whatever I don't I forget the words I'm thinking of right now but like they were able to pull up like the basically like the coding of the website.
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Or something.
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Yeah and like found it put it on the internet before and then release it and everyone's like well she had a Timesquare ad that day so she was planning on it that day for blah blah and that's fine.
00:48:48.079 --> 00:49:01.760
She probably was but maybe not at seven in the morning yeah or like I don't know or mark marketing teams they have fail safes if shit like this hits a fan.
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They could have reserved that it was a digital billboard.
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You can swap those in and out all the time like I don't never bought a billboard in Timesquare I don't know but like she could have been advertising something else.
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It could have been a teaser like what Taylor Swift does like it could have been all sorts of things um and then it became title drop.
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I just feel like it was not her intention.
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No I don't think so either I think it was gonna be it was supposed to be rolled out a little slowly for the sake of the speculation.
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She doesn't like it.
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She's said that like the fans come up with their own stuff and I don't really pay attention to it.
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It really sucked it really put a damper on it and I honestly I don't know about you but it made me less excited but I'm kind of just like all right I'm excited to read it when it comes out like that's fine but I'm not like holy book like I can't wait.
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Yeah I am still pretty excited.
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I'm trying not to let other people like ruin and like take my my joy away but I did feel like the day was kind of weird.
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Yeah.
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It felt like a really weird day and then I think the I've I like I've the theories and people's reactions to like uh I think the covers are ugly and I haven't now I have to read Crescent City and like now people are reading Crescent City I've always had to have read Crescent City.
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The end of Crescent City happens in Belarus you have to read it you have to you have to read it like I don't know what else to tell you.
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:33.039
But it the people have known that now for two years oh it these covers revealed nothing in terms of the the attached the the correlation to Crescent City.
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The Crescent City correlation has existed for years since House of uh Fame and Shadow came out yeah the last one the third one honestly since House of Sky and Breath was out because the flame the flame stutter that were just breezing right past I couldn't remember which one was too blah blah blah blah blah technically she goes to Valaris at the end of book two yeah this has been no she jumped right through that mirror oh I remember that good for me that's right they're in the glass that's what happens in book two the boat and the glass palace sure yep you got it book three is like the wolf a lot of Ethan there's a lot of lot of Ethan and that that bitch that's in a tub yeah and then she's not in tub but definitely still should have been Day Bright Day Bright and the thing there and the thing and then Cormac explodes and yeah and the Viper Queen Witch Theoryan drugs fighting ring wow yeah no we got this we remember this one.
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Oh yeah I read these okay moving on amazing moving on um yeah that's really it about Aqatar.
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Speaking of Avatar should we finally get the fuck going on what this episode is holy shit.
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I'm gonna make the beginning of this its own episode just like a welcome back episode.
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Yeah