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Hello, my name is Hannah Gadsby. And I feel confused
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about being Conan O'Brien's friend.
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Fall is here, hear the yell.
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Back to school, ring the bell.
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Brand new shoes, walkin' loose.
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Climb the fence, books and pens.
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I can tell that we are gonna be friends.
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Hey, welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. I'm Conan O'Brien.
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I guess that part was obvious. Not many people have
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my deep bass voice. I'm joined by my assistant, Sona Mocessian.
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How are you, Sona?
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I'm doing great.
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Are you?
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Yeah.
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Why do you have your fingers up at your mouth?
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I don't know.
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I was biting my nails because I'm a nail biter.
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Are you a nail biter? I am, yeah.
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It sucks.
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You know, when we were kids and we would suck
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our thumb and our mom wanted us to stop, she
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took that clear stuff that you strengthen your fingernails with,
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that varnish, and she put it on our thumbs. Oh, really?
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But then the problem is that reflexively my thumb would
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go into my mouth at night and then I would
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wake up with all of this. Oh.
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Yeah.
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But here's the kicker to the story. I was 24
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at the time. Oh, man.
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I am not surprised.
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Yeah, she did the right thing. And I was sleeping
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in a giant crib. But that was more of a
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sexual thing for me. Matt Gourley is here. Matt, how
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are you? Oh, better now that I've heard all that.
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We all have our different fantasies, and mine is to
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be a six-foot, four-inch Irish baby. Mission accomplished.
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I did.
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You did it.
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Yeah.
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And my nurse is Sofia Vergara. Oh my God. What? Yeah,
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she comes in and says, you know.
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She's Asian?
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I don't know. I didn't, I just went, I don't
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know what happened there.
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Oh.
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She was eating something when she came in the room.
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She was eating like some quiche, so her mouth was
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a little full. Oh my God. Not a, I carumba?
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I don't know what she would say.
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Oh my God.
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Move on.
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Dot org. Whatever it takes. Just move on.
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Just introduce what's happening.
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I don't know. What is happening? I don't know. I'm
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just a guy. I'm just a guy who's trying to
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earn a living. One of the hardest ways you can
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earn a living with a podcast. Exactly. If I had
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a choice between digging a ditch with my bare hands
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or doing a podcast, I got to tell you, that'd
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be a toss up because this is a very dangerous job.
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And there's a lot of physical labor involved moving these
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mics around and drinking water. Okay, let's get into it.
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It's stupid.
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I am. I am very excited to talk to our
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guest today. She is, in my opinion, a brilliant and
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brave performer, writer, you name it. She is just a
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very impressive person. And I'm thrilled that she's here. She
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exploded onto the scene. She'd been around actually doing comedy
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for quite a while. But in 2018, she did a
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Netflix special called entitled Nanette, and it was a seismic
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cultural event, one of the most discussed television happenings of
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the year, if not the most discussed. It was absolutely breathtaking.
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She is now touring with a new show called Douglas,
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and I'm overjoyed that I get a chance to mind
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meld with her today. Hannah Gadsby, thank you for being here.
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How's it going so far?
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It's going well for me.
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Cool.
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I'm delighted I just met you minutes ago. And I
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am delighted. And I don't use the word delighted often.
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You've used it several times very quickly. It will soon
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be revealed that I don't know many other words.
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Delightful. Yeah.
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I'm so delighted with you right now. I'm furious. I
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am an admirer. I wish I could use a stronger word.
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I'm trying to figure out what's a better word than admirer. Desirer?
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Stalker.
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Desirer, stalker.
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Long-time fan, first-time caller?
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Exactly. I'm going to get this right.
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I am a massive admirer of your work, and I
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really was blown away. When I saw Nanette, I know
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you hear this from a lot of people, and I
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hate to be the person who's saying the same thing
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you've heard over and over and over and over again,
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but I thought it was brilliant. I thought it was spectacular,
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and I.
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Watched it, I'm so glad you watched it after all that.
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I mean, good Google work. I was just working off
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of an article on BuzzFeed. It was a list. But
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I felt so many things afterwards. There are maybe 35.
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We can't get to all of them. But there are
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35 things that you've brought up in your work, in
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that performance alone, and just in your comedy that have
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got my mind going. And when I found out that
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you were willing to come and do the show, I
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was so relieved because I thought, I want to talk
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to you personally and I want to connect with you
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in this way that can only happen in a podcast.
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Because if we talked in real life, it wouldn't be
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recorded and no one would make money.
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And I'd walk away. Yeah. Like I do, like I
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have a, this is a good, like, oh, I know
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what's happening here. In conversation sometimes I'll go, I think
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it's finished. And it hasn't, but it's too late.
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So you would have by now just walked away, probably.
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Yeah, you do pause. And I wasn't sure, but I
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knew because everyone's still sitting and I'm taking my cues.
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Okay.
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Because I wasn't done. I do intend to go on.
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Yeah. No, it's okay.
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Anything I can do to help you.
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No, this is all great.
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Okay.
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I'm tethered.
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I'm good. Yes, you are actually. You're wearing a headset
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that is tethered to the table, so there's nowhere you
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can go. And this is my chance to talk to
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you about so many things. I'm going to start with...
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self-deprecation in your special Nanette. You sucker us in beautifully
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with great, great self-deprecating humor. And then you talk about
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the pitfalls of being self-deprecating and some of the problems
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with it. And so you gave such a compelling argument
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for not doing self-deprecating humor. You made a very compelling
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argument for why I should go away and I'm not
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even kidding around. And so I wanted to talk to
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you about it.
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Yeah, I'm finding myself in an interesting position now because
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Like part of the reason why self-deprecation was bad for
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me was because I exist in a marginalized, several marginalized identities.
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But post Nanette, I'm in a, I've got a powerful
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platform now. Like I have quite a voice and a platform.
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And so now is the time to be self-deprecating. But-
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I won't be self-deprecating about those intersections of marginalized identities.
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So I'm not going to make fun of my physicality.
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I'm not going to make fun about my gender and
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my sexuality. But just being generally hopeless, fine.
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So that's still on the table?
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I think so, yeah. Because that's universal. We're all idiots.
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I'm so glad you said that because over the years,
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many people after my show became established, I think to
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many people, they would look at me and they would think, well,
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that's hollow. He's being self-deprecating, but he's a white man
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in America with a television show. That's a minority. There
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aren't enough of us. And I thought my self-deprecation went
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onto my hard drive at a very young age. When
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I was none of the things that I am now.
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And I was anxious.
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You're not always white.
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Well, if you want to get into it, no. No,
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I was not always white.
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You've changed.
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Yes, I have changed. But why did I go for
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this shade of white? It's so silly. It's a real commitment.
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I could have gone for an off-white. I mean, there's
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so many ways I could have gone. An ecru. No
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one uses that word enough.
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It's not going to help.
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It's not going to help me?
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No, not just the word. No one's going to hear
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that and go, must slip that into my conversation.
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Yes, they will. Someone out there is writing down ECRU
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right now.
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How do you spell it?
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I think it's E-C-R-U. Cool.
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Just to help the person who's writing it down.
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Okay. Well, I was in the midst of telling you
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about my childhood pain and torment, and you got us
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off on the spelling of ECRU, and now I'm less
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than delighted because that's still the only word I know.
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Happy to help. Happy to help.
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Tell me about the pain of your childhood.
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I don't know. I felt when I was much, much
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younger that anxiety and lots of just negative feelings that
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I think a lot of young people feel. And I
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downloaded all that into my comedy and then it never changed.
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And so... It's a reflex. It's a reflex and it's
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there and it's a little bit my approach to the world.
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And I have never minded that that was my approach
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to the world, but I have often thought, especially after
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seeing your special, it made me think a lot about
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ways in which self-deprecating humor can stunt what it can
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stunt you. It can freeze you in that moment of
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powerlessness and anxiety and reinforce it over and over and
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over again. And I watched it and I thought, I
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believe you're right.
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Yeah. Well, it's always that, um, that conversation. It's like, Oh,
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all comedians are depressed. And it's like, yeah, because a
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lot of, a lot of comedians work with self-deprecation and
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it's that, you know, there's an investment in being a
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bit hopeless. There's an investment in being, you know, you're
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not going to make many people laugh if you're high status.
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Very few comedians get away with that. They're like, I'm
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nailing life. No, it's like, no one cares.
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I don't know if you're going to agree with me,
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but Jerry Seinfeld seems to be this strange exception where
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His manner is very much I'm good and everything's okay.
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He's human neutral.
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Yes.
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He's kind of like the perfect straight white man, you know.
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He's just like, yeah, he's not. He doesn't even
have
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red hair. Do you know what I mean? He's made
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some bad decisions on the hair and the shoe front,
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but other than that, he's fine.
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Right, right.
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You know, there's a lot of pressure, particularly on, I think, guys.
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You've got to be likable, and the best way to
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be likable is to be self-deprecating. But in this world,
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we're finally recognizing... You know, the perils of power. It's
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just like there's a lot of particularly guy comics who
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don't know they're in a privileged position because they've worked
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their entire life going, I'm just a little guy. And,
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you know, life's hard for me because I'm not the
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perfect guy. But now it's like, hmm, but being a
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guy is an advantage. And so, you know, there's floundering
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to be had. Yes.
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because I thought, okay, I can't, I got to table that.
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in which it might be seen as false, ways in
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which it might be false, ways in which it might
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be stunting me from finding something else or communicating in
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a different way.
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way to grow like you know it's the compost you
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the same angle and I I was growing you know
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with confidence because I was, you know, reasonably, it sounds
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silly now, but I was doing quite well and now
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it's silly. But so it's sort of a, you know,
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professional jealousy and just like, you know, it's like that
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doesn't make sense. So there's all sorts of things that
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are no longer part of my life now because it's
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changed so much, but that was part of the writing
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of it, is to break out of a rut.
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real and that is the power of it. And now
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you have people that might be saying, we can get
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you 190 dates doing that or we can, you know,
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35 Netflix specials and you're being asked to crank it out.
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in America is in the UK, if something's good, they
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make six of them.
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these until everyone hates them.
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You know, I'll keep churning this out until I'm hated
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and then I'll just, I will quit, like I promised.
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I'm very inert. I'm good at being inert. I'm feeling
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that pull, but I'm not so much doing it. I mean,
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I've written a new show and I'm about to start touring.
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is like a lot of comedians I work with started
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when they were teenagers. I was in my late 20s,
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so there was a lot, there's a lot of unlined material.
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of the world for 12 years honing my craft and
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now suddenly I'm here, but I've got a whole life,
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you know, although I do regret packing so much into
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the net. That could have been three shows.
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was one of the writers, I understand, helped you with
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parts of it. The part where you go in the
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misty forest lost me. It felt unnecessary, but.
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It's just getting you to the next thing. There's a...
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I feel it, anyway. What's next? What's next? What's next?
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What are you going to do next? I was very
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fortunate that someone else had the idea for this podcast
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and said, would you do a podcast? And I didn't,
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I wasn't that excited at first. I thought, why would
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I do a podcast? I've been doing a TV show forever.
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Why am I working my way into radio? And I've
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absolutely loved it because it is a completely different rhythm
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and it's a rhythm that I love. It's a rhythm
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that I find really exciting and honest. And also I
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get to talk to people I really, really, really want
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to talk to the way I want to talk to
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them So not much of a risk there, obviously, a
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white male doing a podcast, as I said, not a
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big risk, but a huge reward to try something new.
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but that would be a strong temptation, I would think.
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People are coming at you and saying, okay, we know
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you have a new show, but can you come speak here?
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Can you come speak there? And when you Can you
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retell some of the parts of Nanette that must be
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very painful for you to talk about? They clearly were
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in the special, and now there might be pressure to... Yeah,
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it's out there.
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It exists. I don't really want to talk about, you know,
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to that directly anymore, because it was painful, and I
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toured it for, you know, 18 months. before it even aired.
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front of crowds of like 30 and 90 people, which
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is not a comedy show. It's someone kicking off at
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a family reunion, you know, like it was gruelling, you know.
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broke the contract of comedy and I knew what I
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was doing and I knew that was going to be.
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Hard for you Why do you think you broke a code?
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What code do you think you broke?
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People are relaxed you know they don't have their defences
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up they're not in there ready to you know receive
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trauma and that's what I did I made them relax
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and then I did that to them so that's a
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violation essentially so I had to take care of them
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so that's why the show is written so precisely you
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know I do leave people in these you know it's
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quite it's quite a hard place So, but doing that
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in the room is, you know, at least when people
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are watching it in their home, they can pause, turn off,
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walk away, whatever, or, you know, they're in it. But
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there's a whole room of people getting something they certainly
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did not expect. And so it's kind of like exhausting
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for me, you know, 18 months of that.
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I have a very strong reaction to anybody, and I
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didn't hear it a lot, but I heard that they're
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were people who thought, well, wait a minute. Is this stand-up?
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It starts out as stand-up and then it becomes this.
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a human.
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Your first thing is after watching that, go, well, it's
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not technically comedy. It's just like, what is wrong with you?
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No, exactly.
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Like, don't watch it again. Fine. But what is wrong
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with you? Like, if that's like.
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First of all, Where is the rule? It's a light up.
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I know, but it's an hour and 10 minutes of
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you in a microphone. It is going to be what
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you want it to be. And it was powerful. And
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no moment did you lose me. And I laughed a lot.
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great theater, great works of writing are supposed to do,
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it got in me and wouldn't let me go and
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made me think about a lot of things in a
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way that I was very grateful for. And so I
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was very, I was very angry with anybody that had
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a bit of a, like, like, what the fuck are
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you talking about? This is, this is a beautiful, powerful
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piece of work and I will fight anybody. This is great. No,
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I really did feel that way.
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Well, it never really happened in the live shows. But once,
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I guess, it went on people in their own spaces,
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it's happened a little bit more. And particularly here, I
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think you have a different stand-up culture than we have
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in the UK and Australia. So it's more long-distance runner
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as opposed to a sprint. But two interesting people that
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I thought about when I wrote the show was Donald
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Trump trump and taylor swift.
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You know what i was gonna finish that sentence for
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you together again yeah well you know because it was
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like we've all heard it yeah we all put those
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two together because i.
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Was kind of watching with horror you know donald trump
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and his rallies right in the you know this was
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before he was not even nominated, but just those, and
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it was like he's not saying anything and he's like,
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you know, just watching that group mob mentality. And then
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Taylor Swift, I went through a brief obsession just only
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because I wanted to understand. I still don't, but I
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really studied it hard.
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The Taylor Swift of it all.
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What is this, Swift?
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Yeah. What is it?
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What does she? I couldn't understand. I mean, it was fine,
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but it's like a lot of people think it's more
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than fine. And they're like, oh, she writes her own songs.
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I'm like, maybe. Have you read the words? I mean,
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rain's a strong.
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I will not sit here and listen to this.
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Rain is a strong metaphor, but it shouldn't carry an
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entire
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No, good on her, good on her, good on her.
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I really don't have a problem, but I did study
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the Swift. And during her 1989 world tour, I think
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it's called The Clean Speech. Mm-hmm. I don't know if
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you're aware of this.
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I am not. That would make me a creep.
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Yeah.
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Well, I guess it makes.
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Me a creep, too.
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I really don't feel I'm the demographic. But it was intellectual. Yeah.
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But so she just sort of in her concerts went
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up on this like platform with a keyboard and she
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stood there and was just like a messiah, just talked
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to this huge crowd and they're like crying going, this
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is profound. And I got some transcripts and just studied
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them and I'm like, she has said nothing. Like she
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has genuinely not said anything. Like she meant it. Whatever
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she didn't say. But she really meant it.
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that vagueness of speech that people were just like, oh,
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I want this. So they fill in the blanks.
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It's preaching to the converted quite literally. But I was
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quite fascinated with it. And it happens in the room.
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Like it's a live conversation. You know, these things wouldn't
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work on TV. So I was fascinated with that mob
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mentality and I'm like, I don't think that's healthy. You know,
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like that's not how you open a closed mind.
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So that's why I started to go, I need to
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shatter that illusion, like break the audience up so people
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are like, I don't know how to react because that
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consensus has been broken so people are left as individuals
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in the room. So that was one of my muses.
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Yeah, oh, I just... Oh, my God. I wish the
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show had ended with dedicated to Donald Trump. Everyone would
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have known just
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I've never admitted that. It's quite the admission you need.
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Yes, we have this tradition of the stand-up special where
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someone prowls the stage and.
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They didn't move.
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a master matador. You didn't move. No, you didn't. You
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didn't move, I don't think you moved an inch. And
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in fact, at one point you went and you went
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to take a sip of water. I think it's maybe
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one or two points during the show, but when that happened,
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it was electrifying.
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Minimalist.
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because I chose to stand still because that's a thing
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I don't ever have to make a decision about during
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performance of it, you know, literally taking a stand because
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it's a lot of heavy lifting in the show, you know, emotional,
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I guess. But, you know, also the show, I think,
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is technically, you know, if it had all the material
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that I, It's three or four strands, three and a
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half hours long all up. So I would pull it
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together and take every performance was slightly different. So it
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was alive in every room that I did it. So
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that's why I thought, well, let's not throw walking and
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thinking into the same moment.
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I thought you are... so eloquent and clearly well-read and
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clearly have thought through everything so well. I thought that
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added a lot to the performance, that your language was
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so precise. Was that a choice or you're just really,
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really smart, which I know you are?
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00:24:40.349 --> 00:24:44.789
Call me, call me. I always found myself working a
490
00:24:44.809 --> 00:24:48.329
lot and I found that being intelligent was disarming for
491
00:24:48.349 --> 00:24:53.450
this bundle. You know, being quiet, quietly intelligent, actually worked
492
00:24:53.509 --> 00:24:56.799
early on. for me and I think audiences are quite
493
00:24:56.839 --> 00:25:01.480
smart generally like and I think they're getting increasingly more
494
00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:04.299
intelligent particularly with comedy because we've got access to comedy
495
00:25:04.500 --> 00:25:06.619
all the time now like there was a time when
496
00:25:07.329 --> 00:25:09.869
you know the only time you could watch comedy usually
497
00:25:09.930 --> 00:25:11.730
was on tv unless you were you know in a
498
00:25:11.730 --> 00:25:13.769
city that had a live scene but generally you know
499
00:25:13.809 --> 00:25:15.470
that's not much of the world in the scheme of
500
00:25:15.509 --> 00:25:19.069
things and so you you had a very small amount
501
00:25:19.089 --> 00:25:21.450
of comedy and that that was what you were left
502
00:25:21.529 --> 00:25:26.609
with now you can watch comedy anytime you like So that,
503
00:25:26.769 --> 00:25:29.609
I think, is great for the form because it's like, well,
504
00:25:29.650 --> 00:25:31.509
we can really push it now because people have got
505
00:25:31.529 --> 00:25:34.650
the yuck-yuck sorted. Anyone can just Google cat videos.
506
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:35.519
They're fine.
507
00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:38.700
They can have laughs like that. So I think it's
508
00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:44.440
blown so much potential in the idea of what stand-up
509
00:25:44.460 --> 00:25:44.779
can be.
510
00:25:45.019 --> 00:25:47.500
And I think it's become much more specialized. It used
511
00:25:47.539 --> 00:25:52.319
to be everything's become more specialized. Entertainment's become more specialized.
512
00:25:52.339 --> 00:25:54.819
You can find the exact... thing that you want to
513
00:25:54.900 --> 00:25:58.119
find because there's so many different small niches that are
514
00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:00.410
possible now when there used to be, at least in
515
00:26:00.450 --> 00:26:03.130
this country, there were three networks and that was it.
516
00:26:03.190 --> 00:26:06.329
Here are the shows, here's Happy Days, here's Laverne and Shirley,
517
00:26:06.690 --> 00:26:08.250
shut the fuck up and go to bed. And that's
518
00:26:08.289 --> 00:26:10.380
what you got. I didn't mean to shout at you
519
00:26:10.410 --> 00:26:11.900
all like that.
520
00:26:11.940 --> 00:26:15.569
No, no, that's real insight into your... Your life this...
521
00:26:15.750 --> 00:26:17.250
Laverne and Shirley, shut the fuck up.
522
00:26:17.730 --> 00:26:20.670
Go to bed. That's how my mother used to speak
523
00:26:20.690 --> 00:26:21.920
to me. Good on her.
524
00:26:21.940 --> 00:26:22.619
She raised you well.
525
00:26:22.660 --> 00:26:28.539
Yeah, she did. She was a sailor. But a very
526
00:26:28.579 --> 00:26:29.099
good sailor.
527
00:26:29.259 --> 00:26:34.059
Yeah, yeah. Mums usually are. I don't know what that means.
528
00:26:34.140 --> 00:26:36.640
We'll be right back with more things that aren't true.
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And we're back. Isn't that beautiful?
549
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:37.039
Oh, it's really good. I even read it as you
550
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:37.339
said it.
551
00:27:52.769 --> 00:27:55.089
The one that I don't hear about is that you
552
00:27:55.150 --> 00:27:56.549
go after Picasso.
553
00:27:57.109 --> 00:27:59.170
He's been brave on so many levels.
554
00:27:59.269 --> 00:28:02.089
No, but no one, he has always held up as
555
00:28:02.109 --> 00:28:05.990
the example of, well, you can't, I mean, Picasso. And
556
00:28:06.029 --> 00:28:08.839
I just love that you just said, I don't get it.
557
00:28:09.069 --> 00:28:12.220
I don't like it. I don't like him. I think
558
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:13.380
cubism is shit.
559
00:28:15.190 --> 00:28:17.809
Oh, no, Cubism's fine. Like Georges Braque, let's bring him
560
00:28:17.890 --> 00:28:22.440
up into the world. But it's like, you know, also
561
00:28:22.460 --> 00:28:27.119
he's just a mythology now. Nobody really is moved by
562
00:28:27.140 --> 00:28:30.099
a Picasso now, not emotionally. At the time, sure, he
563
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:31.849
was doing something. You know, and I could say the
564
00:28:31.869 --> 00:28:34.190
same thing for Nanette. Maybe in five, ten years' time,
565
00:28:34.869 --> 00:28:37.589
you know, more people have done things, you know, grown
566
00:28:37.609 --> 00:28:40.609
the idea that I've thrown out there, and Nanette doesn't
567
00:28:40.650 --> 00:28:43.910
move people in ten years' time. Because the conversation's changed.
568
00:28:44.529 --> 00:28:47.609
It's of the time. Picasso does not move people now.
569
00:28:47.910 --> 00:28:51.480
Occasionally you go, oh, he's good with a line. But essentially, like,
570
00:28:51.539 --> 00:28:54.900
he's an historical figure. And the only reason he moves
571
00:28:54.940 --> 00:28:57.480
people is because of his worth. And his worth is
572
00:28:57.539 --> 00:29:00.099
built on his mythology. And I just don't have time
573
00:29:00.140 --> 00:29:03.779
for it. It's just like... Only rich men buy Picassos
574
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:05.759
and that's why they talk about it. That's why he's
575
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:08.599
worth it. And he's all right. Keep him in the museums.
576
00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:12.450
Keep the conversation going. Sure. But add a few other
577
00:29:12.470 --> 00:29:15.069
people in there and let's keep in the story that
578
00:29:15.109 --> 00:29:15.369
he was born.
579
00:29:15.890 --> 00:29:16.630
Prick biscuit.
580
00:29:16.650 --> 00:29:20.069
Like he was an asshole. And he was, but you know,
581
00:29:20.109 --> 00:29:22.549
we can learn, we could have learned from that, but
582
00:29:22.569 --> 00:29:25.690
it was enabled, right? And that's, you know, by not
583
00:29:26.029 --> 00:29:29.170
looking at that and thinking about that and, you know,
584
00:29:29.269 --> 00:29:31.750
making sure that that's part of his story, we've still
585
00:29:31.789 --> 00:29:34.950
got those guys who are getting away with stuff and
586
00:29:34.990 --> 00:29:37.250
people who allow them to get away with stuff because
587
00:29:37.309 --> 00:29:39.769
that's the culture. Because we think, oh, we can't exist
588
00:29:39.789 --> 00:29:43.619
without the genius but genius is like it's an event
589
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:48.349
not a person and it's replaceable like it'll always you
590
00:29:48.380 --> 00:29:51.309
know where there's a need artists will fill it but
591
00:29:51.529 --> 00:29:53.869
you know you don't have to you put an artist
592
00:29:53.930 --> 00:29:57.410
on a pedestal they're no longer responding to the world
593
00:29:57.690 --> 00:30:00.039
they're not breathing the same air right So I get,
594
00:30:00.140 --> 00:30:00.809
it's bullshit.
595
00:30:01.630 --> 00:30:04.440
No, I've also, it's also driven me crazy when people
596
00:30:04.980 --> 00:30:08.140
say things like, well, if it weren't for Newton, we
597
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:11.539
wouldn't know about gravity. And I think, listen, Newton was amazing,
598
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:15.420
and I'm not going after Newton. That's your job, to
599
00:30:15.460 --> 00:30:18.970
go after Newton. But no, someone else would have figured
600
00:30:18.990 --> 00:30:21.950
it out. So he was brilliant in his moment at
601
00:30:21.990 --> 00:30:27.009
that time. But whenever people think that had Thomas Edison
602
00:30:27.490 --> 00:30:30.170
not come up with the light bulb, we'd still in
603
00:30:30.170 --> 00:30:32.660
2019 be stumbling around in the dark. I want to
604
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:33.339
fight them in a bar.
605
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:34.759
A dark bar.
606
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:39.349
Very dark bar. Just swinging wildly and hoping to connect
607
00:30:39.369 --> 00:30:44.089
with someone. Yeah, you would eventually. If you've seen me fight, no.
608
00:30:45.329 --> 00:30:48.829
It's sort of like freckled pasta whipping around.
609
00:30:49.309 --> 00:30:49.789
Oh, wow.
610
00:30:50.069 --> 00:30:51.150
Yeah, no, that's an image.
611
00:30:52.170 --> 00:30:56.670
Yeah, two strands of freckled pasta just flailing on a
612
00:30:56.769 --> 00:31:03.599
sort of ill-made turbine. It's steam-powered, spinning, and it's really
613
00:31:03.619 --> 00:31:04.140
just sad.
614
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.759
It's a good image, though.
615
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:10.660
Thank you. I'm working on it.
616
00:31:10.660 --> 00:31:13.170
Is it like a Lazy Susan, like a steam-powered Lazy Susan?
617
00:31:15.589 --> 00:31:19.099
That you've stapled two pieces of freckled pasta to. The pastas.
618
00:31:19.700 --> 00:31:23.380
I just had that image, you know, those inflatable cars.
619
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:25.799
Yes, yes, they flip and flop around, yes, in front
620
00:31:25.819 --> 00:31:27.460
of a car lot where they're selling cars.
621
00:31:27.619 --> 00:31:30.430
That's you fighting in a dark bar. Yes, yes.
622
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.460
Imagine that without being able to see it hitting no one.
623
00:31:34.210 --> 00:31:35.410
This is quite zen now.
624
00:31:35.750 --> 00:31:40.390
Yeah. I want to say something else.
625
00:31:40.769 --> 00:31:41.029
Cool.
626
00:31:41.329 --> 00:31:42.109
And I think I'm allowed to.
627
00:31:42.269 --> 00:31:42.470
Yeah.
628
00:31:42.509 --> 00:31:44.130
Because my name is somewhere in the show.
629
00:31:44.230 --> 00:31:44.769
Go for it, kiddo.
630
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.039
I'm not a fan of the angry comic on stage
631
00:31:51.099 --> 00:31:55.420
because a lot of times I think, wait a minute,
632
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:59.619
they're really not that angry about getting a bag of
633
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:03.599
peanuts on an airline. They're really not that angry. This
634
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:09.519
is manufactured. There are moments where you're quite angry and
635
00:32:09.579 --> 00:32:13.140
upset and you're expressing that And it is profound.
636
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:18.130
Well, the, the filming of it was actually kind of
637
00:32:18.309 --> 00:32:20.109
even more difficult than usual because my mum was in
638
00:32:20.130 --> 00:32:22.089
the audience and that wasn't supposed to be.
639
00:32:22.109 --> 00:32:24.750
I heard about this. Your mother is, was, did you,
640
00:32:24.869 --> 00:32:26.609
did you know before you went out that your mother
641
00:32:26.630 --> 00:32:27.710
would be in the crowd? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
642
00:32:27.769 --> 00:32:31.500
And I'd been looking after her all day. Um, you know, so,
643
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.039
and
then she's, I, I did a whole run at
644
00:32:34.059 --> 00:32:36.160
the opera house at before I filmed it like a
645
00:32:36.180 --> 00:32:37.440
couple of months earlier and I kept saying, do you
646
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.680
want to pop up and what are you, I'm playing
647
00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:41.119
in Elbrow, can you come up and see?
648
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:42.250
And she's like, nah.
649
00:32:44.730 --> 00:32:45.809
So she's a pirate.
650
00:32:45.849 --> 00:32:46.529
Yeah.
651
00:32:46.549 --> 00:32:48.809
There's no time.
652
00:32:49.089 --> 00:32:57.630
Yeah, pretty much. So I organised the date for the filming.
653
00:32:57.650 --> 00:32:59.170
She's like, I'm going to pop up for that.
654
00:32:59.490 --> 00:33:00.259
Yeah, I reckon.
655
00:33:00.299 --> 00:33:02.140
Yeah, I might do it now. So it was sort
656
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.099
of like, oh, bullshit. Yeah. Because, you know, I couldn't
657
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:07.740
do it. I had to do it. So that.
658
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.619
As it happened, I could see her because she's got
659
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.880
quite a distinct white crop of hair. And, you know,
660
00:33:15.900 --> 00:33:17.680
it was just sort of like in my eyeline. And
661
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.839
when I did this certain bit, I just saw her slump,
662
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.099
you know, like, and I just, it was, it was
663
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:24.839
a lot.
664
00:33:25.180 --> 00:33:28.819
I cannot imagine that. I think I can have a
665
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:34.430
good imagination. I can't imagine talking about something that potent and,
666
00:33:35.220 --> 00:33:36.700
your mom is, is there.
667
00:33:36.779 --> 00:33:39.119
And I know that she's, you know, going, Oh, I
668
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:41.660
let my daughter down, which is not what I was saying,
669
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:45.839
but you know, that's your, that's your thing. Of course,
670
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:48.000
she's going to think that in that room, you know, like,
671
00:33:48.700 --> 00:33:51.900
so that really, you know, I can say with all
672
00:33:51.980 --> 00:33:56.579
confidence that was a genuine performance because of that. Also,
673
00:33:56.680 --> 00:34:00.240
you know, like I, I just think the, you know,
674
00:34:00.289 --> 00:34:03.809
separation of comedy from drama is not the smartest thing
675
00:34:03.829 --> 00:34:10.059
we've ever done. Like it, Historically, they've always coexisted. I
676
00:34:10.380 --> 00:34:13.440
don't think I've done anything new. I'm just reminded of
677
00:34:13.539 --> 00:34:16.639
why it works so well. So it'll be interesting to
678
00:34:16.820 --> 00:34:17.679
see what I do next.
679
00:34:18.900 --> 00:34:21.639
Well, let's talk about that. Let's talk about that.
680
00:34:21.659 --> 00:34:22.840
Where do you go from Nanette?
681
00:34:22.940 --> 00:34:24.519
You have another canvas now.
682
00:34:24.539 --> 00:34:35.690
So it's... I don't know why
I stopped talking, but
683
00:34:35.730 --> 00:34:39.380
I did, didn't I? I think I just got scared.
684
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:40.119
Oh, no.
685
00:34:41.619 --> 00:34:47.579
Touring. Yeah, it was kind of a really interesting creative
686
00:34:47.619 --> 00:34:50.900
process because I felt a lot of pressure creatively. The
687
00:34:50.940 --> 00:34:52.760
spirit in which I wrote it was like, well, I
688
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:56.710
can't back Nanette up. She's quite singular. I can't just keep,
689
00:34:57.190 --> 00:34:59.869
you know, it would be disingenuous to go, here's some
690
00:34:59.889 --> 00:35:00.369
more trauma.
691
00:35:00.829 --> 00:35:00.989
Yeah.
692
00:35:01.269 --> 00:35:04.030
You know, I think I've dealt enough of that out.
693
00:35:04.150 --> 00:35:06.670
I just need to work on my stuff on my own.
694
00:35:08.449 --> 00:35:11.889
But so I think the way I approached it was
695
00:35:11.909 --> 00:35:15.070
to say, well, I can't back that up. You know,
696
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.500
I have to create something, you know, that's content to
697
00:35:18.539 --> 00:35:22.400
live in the shadow of Nanette, you know, because, you know,
698
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.789
that's where I live now. At the moment, I'm living
699
00:35:24.829 --> 00:35:26.710
in the shadow of Nanette. That's what this show needs
700
00:35:26.730 --> 00:35:31.409
to be. So I ended up writing a show that's
701
00:35:31.510 --> 00:35:34.550
really fun. Really fun.
702
00:35:34.750 --> 00:35:35.309
I like that.
703
00:35:35.349 --> 00:35:40.280
Yeah, I'm genuinely having fun on stage, which is new.
704
00:35:40.780 --> 00:35:45.780
That is new.
705
00:35:45.820 --> 00:35:48.539
I mean, I'm happy for you. I am. I want
706
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:52.199
you to have a show that is giving you, Joy
707
00:35:52.260 --> 00:35:55.699
and not putting you through the ringer every single night.
708
00:35:55.780 --> 00:36:00.050
Yeah, I'm getting angry about peanuts on the plane. It
709
00:36:00.070 --> 00:36:04.130
took it from you. Manufactured rage, that's working well for me.
710
00:36:04.269 --> 00:36:07.110
You smashed melons for a while on stage. I know
711
00:36:07.389 --> 00:36:08.309
in your Gallagher phase.
712
00:36:08.510 --> 00:36:08.949
Oh, right.
713
00:36:12.710 --> 00:36:14.849
You were a very good prop comic back in the day.
714
00:36:14.869 --> 00:36:16.889
Yeah, that's something people don't know about me.
715
00:36:16.929 --> 00:36:18.769
I've seen the footage. You were a master.
716
00:36:18.969 --> 00:36:21.429
Yeah, I used to take the microphone out of the stand.
717
00:36:24.269 --> 00:36:26.510
Prowl the stage.
718
00:36:26.829 --> 00:36:32.489
Amble. Yeah, so I'm actually quite excited about it. It's interesting.
719
00:36:32.510 --> 00:36:37.530
It's my first North American tour. I did New York
720
00:36:37.590 --> 00:36:39.219
and a couple of dates in L.A., but I really
721
00:36:39.260 --> 00:36:44.179
haven't traveled about. So
it's going to be fascinating how
722
00:36:44.380 --> 00:36:48.150
audiences receive music. It's interesting now when I get standing
723
00:36:48.250 --> 00:36:51.269
ovations before I even get to the microphone now. And
724
00:36:51.309 --> 00:36:53.630
it's weird because it's like, guys, you've got to give
725
00:36:53.650 --> 00:36:57.769
me room to fuck up. Like it's sort of like
726
00:36:57.789 --> 00:37:01.110
you just need to have some respect for yourself. But
727
00:37:01.190 --> 00:37:04.610
I kind of understand that they're going, thank you for
728
00:37:04.650 --> 00:37:07.300
what you've already done. Like I said, I now live
729
00:37:07.340 --> 00:37:11.489
in the shadow of Nanette. Yeah. So, you know, which
730
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:14.159
is funny that I've created quite a light show.
731
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:15.219
Yeah.
732
00:37:16.380 --> 00:37:19.769
Well, I wrote it in the spirit of like I
733
00:37:19.809 --> 00:37:22.489
need to not care if this fails, which is the
734
00:37:22.510 --> 00:37:25.329
spirit I wrote Nanette in. I need to not care
735
00:37:26.250 --> 00:37:29.099
if this, you know, does push me into the margins
736
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:33.199
even further. So it's like I'm prepared to artistically and
737
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:37.219
creatively take a risk and if it fails, that's fine. Wow.
738
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:37.340
Wow.
739
00:37:38.730 --> 00:37:42.590
So that's– I mean, I had to because I– where
740
00:37:42.610 --> 00:37:45.840
did I even come from? Nobody knows. Like, this is–
741
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:50.179
I could just– like, I could– but Nanette lives– you know,
742
00:37:50.219 --> 00:37:52.860
she lives and she's doing a thing in people's heads.
743
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.860
And it's– I know that that show has had an impact.
744
00:37:56.260 --> 00:37:56.840
I've done enough.
745
00:37:57.860 --> 00:38:00.059
I can clock off now as a human, right?
746
00:38:00.449 --> 00:38:03.210
No, that was not the point of this podcast.
747
00:38:03.269 --> 00:38:06.050
Not clock off as in like, no, just like, I
748
00:38:06.090 --> 00:38:08.789
can just get a job at my brother's supermarket and
749
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:11.679
fruit and veg shop and just have a nice garden
750
00:38:11.739 --> 00:38:12.460
and stuff like that.
751
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:16.119
Yes, you have earned the right. Yes, you have. I'll
752
00:38:16.139 --> 00:38:17.840
give you that permission because I know you need that
753
00:38:17.900 --> 00:38:18.260
from me.
754
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:25.269
I do. But knowing that and thinking like that gives
755
00:38:25.289 --> 00:38:28.869
you the creative freedom that perhaps if I invested in
756
00:38:28.909 --> 00:38:29.570
the wall-to-wall.
757
00:38:29.909 --> 00:38:34.969
I have to say, I think the risk that you
758
00:38:35.329 --> 00:38:41.619
took to risk people's ire or dissatisfaction Feeling that this
759
00:38:41.699 --> 00:38:45.559
isn't a comedy show. That
was my Australian accent, by
760
00:38:45.579 --> 00:38:45.840
the way.
761
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:46.760
It's pretty good, mate.
762
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:53.389
This ain't a comedy show. We're all pirate mothers. That's
763
00:38:53.409 --> 00:38:58.130
not a knife in a comedy show. This is a
764
00:38:58.170 --> 00:38:59.730
knife in a comedy show.
765
00:39:00.150 --> 00:39:00.610
Oh, no.
766
00:39:00.690 --> 00:39:02.840
What? Isn't that?
767
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:03.440
Yeah.
768
00:39:03.460 --> 00:39:07.860
Okay. Paul Hogan's still very relevant with the young people. Yeah.
769
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:08.880
In Australia. Do you know.
770
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:13.559
When I, before I turned 18, I'd seen two films
771
00:39:13.619 --> 00:39:16.539
at the cinema. It was Milo and Otis and Crocodile
772
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.340
Dundee 2. I hadn't even seen the first.
773
00:39:19.420 --> 00:39:19.840
Oh my God.
774
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:23.849
Oh my God. You just saw Crocodile Dundee. You started. Okay.
775
00:39:24.170 --> 00:39:26.130
Milo and Otis and Crocodile Dundee 2.
776
00:39:26.130 --> 00:39:32.489
Two. Um, I, uh, I was just in Australia, and
777
00:39:32.510 --> 00:39:34.380
I was telling you that, and I think one of
778
00:39:34.449 --> 00:39:37.079
the big– I feel like that country's been lying to
779
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.579
us because I went there. And all they've done my
780
00:39:40.619 --> 00:39:46.059
whole life, my perspective has been Australian saying, come to Australia.
781
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:53.289
You're going to have– You're going to party in Australia
782
00:39:53.530 --> 00:39:56.469
because we has no rules and we ate a shrimp
783
00:39:56.530 --> 00:39:59.170
on the bus. There's no rules. Listen, you're going to
784
00:39:59.190 --> 00:40:01.659
listen to this accent. This is important to me.
785
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:04.250
I'm feeling it. I'm not just listening to it.
786
00:40:04.340 --> 00:40:07.679
I'm feeling it. You're going to come to Australia. It's
787
00:40:07.900 --> 00:40:10.619
crazy down here. And then I got there and it was,
788
00:40:10.980 --> 00:40:15.539
we have a lot of rules. Very uptight about the rules.
789
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.969
What makes me laugh about that, you know, like, we
790
00:40:17.989 --> 00:40:20.750
don't care. Throw another, you know, shrimp on the barbie.
791
00:40:20.989 --> 00:40:24.269
We don't say shrimp. We say prawns. If we really
792
00:40:24.289 --> 00:40:27.210
didn't care, we'd say, chuck another fucking prawn on the
793
00:40:27.250 --> 00:40:30.570
barbie and catch up and learn. Exactly. Like, we speak
794
00:40:30.610 --> 00:40:32.150
different words sometimes. Right.
795
00:40:32.510 --> 00:40:34.300
And you don't drink Foster's lager.
796
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:34.840
Hate it.
797
00:40:35.179 --> 00:40:37.699
Everyone hates it in Australia. It's cat's piss. Yeah.
798
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:37.940
Yeah.
799
00:40:38.460 --> 00:40:42.980
That's another thing. They always said Forster's, Australian for beer. No.
800
00:40:43.260 --> 00:40:44.929
And Outback Steakhouse.
801
00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:46.929
Yeah. What's also interesting is like.
802
00:40:46.949 --> 00:40:48.909
Do you guys have Bloomin' Onions, by the way? Is
803
00:40:48.949 --> 00:40:49.590
that a real thing?
804
00:40:49.829 --> 00:40:50.610
I don't know.
805
00:40:51.469 --> 00:40:56.719
What is it? I don't know. It's an onion that's cut.
806
00:40:56.219 --> 00:40:58.019
In a specific way. I love that the two of
807
00:40:58.159 --> 00:40:59.440
us just jumped right in.
808
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.699
It looks like a tumbleweed or an artichoke out of
809
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:04.059
an onion. It's like a fried onion that they've convinced
810
00:41:04.139 --> 00:41:05.610
us is an Australian delicacy.
811
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:06.429
Who's they?
812
00:41:06.969 --> 00:41:08.489
The people at Faustus.
813
00:41:08.710 --> 00:41:08.949
Outback.
814
00:41:08.989 --> 00:41:09.230
Outback.
815
00:41:10.139 --> 00:41:10.920
It's a conspiracy.
816
00:41:10.940 --> 00:41:13.960
Well, the thing is, like, everyone's idea of Australia, Australia's
817
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:18.000
a huge country. Like, we haven't got a very large population,
818
00:41:18.019 --> 00:41:18.630
but it's a.
819
00:41:18.860 --> 00:41:19.260
Massive.
820
00:41:19.619 --> 00:41:22.510
Massive, you know, in terms of its environment. But people
821
00:41:22.889 --> 00:41:27.030
think it's either, like, surf or the desert, which essentially
822
00:41:27.090 --> 00:41:29.949
that's what it is. It's the outlines and the desert.
823
00:41:30.050 --> 00:41:33.449
But I'm from Tasmania, which is another world entirely, so
824
00:41:33.510 --> 00:41:37.119
it's not, you know, it's more like New Zealand, really,
825
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:42.340
in its acceptance politics. But, you know, like, so it's
826
00:41:42.449 --> 00:41:46.280
that sort of like it's almost, you know, people's idea.
827
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.920
I don't come from people's idea of Australia at the
828
00:41:48.940 --> 00:41:52.920
best of times. But I did have a meeting, one
829
00:41:52.940 --> 00:41:56.889
of the meetings where I think it was Warner Brothers. Yeah.
830
00:41:58.079 --> 00:41:58.900
That's where we are now.
831
00:41:58.940 --> 00:41:59.300
Yeah.
832
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:00.239
This is Warner Brothers.
833
00:42:00.260 --> 00:42:02.780
This woman asked me, you know, she's saying, you know,
834
00:42:02.820 --> 00:42:05.239
talking about a particular show that she's worked on. She says,
835
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:07.949
very popular in Australia. I'm not sure how popular it
836
00:42:08.030 --> 00:42:09.050
is in Tanzania.
837
00:42:09.329 --> 00:42:09.690
Oh, no.
838
00:42:09.869 --> 00:42:17.840
Oh, no. Neither am I. Yeah. We love rules.
839
00:42:18.139 --> 00:42:20.280
We have rules, yes. They were very into rules and
840
00:42:20.300 --> 00:42:23.760
they kept saying, you know. We're very needy. Very needy
841
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:26.409
and they give this impression that they're eating prawns.
842
00:42:26.570 --> 00:42:28.190
Do you like us? Do you like us?
843
00:42:28.210 --> 00:42:29.230
What do you think of Australia?
844
00:42:29.250 --> 00:42:30.989
Do you like us? What do you think?
845
00:42:31.010 --> 00:42:33.469
We're all right, aren't we? We're all right. Good on you.
846
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:34.519
Are you good on us?
847
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:34.980
Yeah.
848
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:39.219
I love that, that they were very, very, very interested in, no,
849
00:42:39.260 --> 00:42:41.840
this closes at this time, and no, you can't, we
850
00:42:41.860 --> 00:42:44.389
don't serve after this, and these are the rules, and
851
00:42:44.409 --> 00:42:47.590
this is the district that you're in, and you must behave.
852
00:42:47.730 --> 00:42:51.409
Did you go to the Hunger Games by mistake? I did.
853
00:42:51.590 --> 00:42:56.960
There was a long train, and Woody Harrelson was there. Yeah, that's... Australia. Australia.
854
00:42:57.949 --> 00:43:00.969
I mean, this is a frightening tourism ad you've seen.
855
00:43:01.070 --> 00:43:04.610
I know, yeah. They yelled at me about fosters, and
856
00:43:04.869 --> 00:43:07.090
they yelled at me about a shrimp, not a prawn,
857
00:43:07.710 --> 00:43:08.809
and I was scarred for life.
858
00:43:09.269 --> 00:43:12.500
Yeah, well, dig deep into that well. For your comedy.
859
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:13.599
That's going to be.
860
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:16.039
That's your well of pain.
861
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:19.719
Oh, wait till you see my hour 15 minute show
862
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.619
about how I was deceived by Australian commercials in the
863
00:43:22.820 --> 00:43:23.340
late 70s.
864
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:25.659
The last 15 minutes, pin drop.
865
00:43:27.139 --> 00:43:30.320
I did want to thank you for busting the myth
866
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:34.090
and I believe you that pain is necessary for art
867
00:43:34.510 --> 00:43:37.429
and for inspiration because that has been one of the
868
00:43:37.449 --> 00:43:40.710
big struggles in my life is for years I refused
869
00:43:40.889 --> 00:43:44.969
to seek any help because I thought, no, I need
870
00:43:45.010 --> 00:43:47.409
this to be funny. And then I finally got to
871
00:43:47.449 --> 00:43:49.909
a point where I thought, whether I'm funny or not,
872
00:43:49.949 --> 00:43:53.920
I don't care. I don't want to be unhappy anymore.
873
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:55.179
Pain's always going to find you.
874
00:43:55.460 --> 00:43:56.039
You know what I mean?
875
00:43:56.059 --> 00:43:57.550
Like it's life. That's what it is.
876
00:43:57.559 --> 00:43:58.739
You don't have to go looking for it.
877
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.260
And especially not staying in it. I think there's a
878
00:44:01.340 --> 00:44:03.260
lot of particular, I know a lot of comedians who
879
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:05.900
are like, I don't think I'll go on antidepressants. That's
880
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:11.159
where my funny is. And I'm like, yeah, that's not funny. Right.
881
00:44:11.900 --> 00:44:13.079
It's harmful.
882
00:44:13.420 --> 00:44:14.280
Yeah.
883
00:44:14.699 --> 00:44:17.440
But, you know, a couple of shows down the track,
884
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:18.860
I'll just be doing prop comedy.
885
00:44:19.550 --> 00:44:21.550
I love it.
886
00:44:21.570 --> 00:44:23.090
And that's when the issues really set in.
887
00:44:23.210 --> 00:44:26.489
You're going to work out your real pain with prop comedy?
888
00:44:26.789 --> 00:44:31.429
I love it. No, that's where the emptiness grows. Well,
889
00:44:31.449 --> 00:44:32.250
that's very different.
890
00:44:32.789 --> 00:44:33.849
Yeah.
891
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:36.300
It's an honor to talk to you. It really is.
892
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.920
And the name of the show, it's this throwaway line
893
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.860
about Conan O'Brien needs a friend. The truth is that
894
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:49.360
I really do value meeting people that I admire who've
895
00:44:49.380 --> 00:44:52.260
done something I think profound and getting to talk to
896
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:54.280
them and even just be their friend for an hour
897
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:56.329
means a lot to me. So this is a big
898
00:44:56.349 --> 00:44:56.849
deal for me.
899
00:44:57.070 --> 00:44:59.449
I think likewise. It's been a treat.
900
00:45:00.030 --> 00:45:00.969
There you go.
901
00:45:01.349 --> 00:45:06.829
It's been a podcast equivalent of a Foster's and prawn.
902
00:45:08.010 --> 00:45:12.039
We're going to get money from you. See, now you
903
00:45:12.059 --> 00:45:13.719
sound Australian. Yeah, much better.
904
00:45:14.460 --> 00:45:15.019
Oh, I hate it.
905
00:45:15.019 --> 00:45:18.119
All right, thank you very much. And a gasp. Thank you.
906
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:22.119
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907
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908
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909
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910
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Hey Em, still up for that hike?
911
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:41.079
Yep, count me in.
912
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:42.679
Or we could check out that new brunch place.
913
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:43.219
Sounds good.
914
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:45.739
Or what about... Let's do it. When you feel your best,
915
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should not replace a healthy diet and an active lifestyle.
924
00:46:14.050 --> 00:46:15.690
Hey, we haven't done this in a while. Let's do
925
00:46:15.949 --> 00:46:19.070
review the reviewers. So these are some of the iTunes reviews.
926
00:46:19.110 --> 00:46:20.750
They're all five stars that I have here.
927
00:46:20.789 --> 00:46:21.269
Nice.
928
00:46:21.429 --> 00:46:22.590
Congrats.
929
00:46:22.659 --> 00:46:24.219
I'm sure there are others that are less than five
930
00:46:24.260 --> 00:46:25.079
and you didn't pick those.
931
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:28.179
Well, why would I? Those people should burn in their
932
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.659
own special hell. Why don't you say there are none?
933
00:46:35.949 --> 00:46:37.480
Why am I like who?
934
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.280
I don't know. Damaged inside?
935
00:46:39.500 --> 00:46:39.800
Yes.
936
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:42.280
Well, let's call my parents now.
937
00:46:43.860 --> 00:46:47.110
Speaking of that, Best Out There, five stars by Elbow68,
938
00:46:47.929 --> 00:46:50.210
and their review is, Good job, honey.
939
00:46:50.510 --> 00:46:50.829
Mom.
940
00:46:51.210 --> 00:46:51.269
Oh.
941
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.900
Well, my mom has never used a computer in her life,
942
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:57.039
so that's not coming from my mom. Is that what
943
00:46:57.059 --> 00:46:59.900
this person's implying? I guess, yeah. No, my mom... She's
944
00:46:59.960 --> 00:47:02.340
a brilliant woman. Yeah, but she doesn't use computers, and
945
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:04.159
if you gave her a computer, she would try to
946
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:08.550
microwave a ham sandwich with it. So that's not from
947
00:47:08.570 --> 00:47:15.719
my mother. Sorry, nice try, Elbow68. Lulu Kachu says, wish
948
00:47:15.780 --> 00:47:17.480
I could be Conan's friend. Five stars.
949
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:20.019
The podcast is amazing because I get to listen to
950
00:47:20.059 --> 00:47:23.159
my favorite comedian slash celebrity just talk and be funny
951
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:25.179
and learn more about his life and the lives of
952
00:47:25.250 --> 00:47:27.429
people in comedy. I love learning, and who better to
953
00:47:27.489 --> 00:47:29.949
learn from than sexy Professor O'Brien?
954
00:47:30.090 --> 00:47:32.530
See, can I say something? That's someone who sees me
955
00:47:32.630 --> 00:47:37.789
as being sexual. So I don't understand this riff you
956
00:47:37.809 --> 00:47:40.860
guys have going that I'm, you know, oh, gross, Conan,
957
00:47:40.909 --> 00:47:43.900
how could
he ever be sexual? I'm a highly sexualized being.
958
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.039
If you listen to the last episode, we talked, well,
959
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:47.820
we were grossed out by you being sexual.
960
00:47:48.019 --> 00:47:48.260
Yeah.
961
00:47:48.300 --> 00:47:53.159
Yes. In general, most people are grossed out when I,
962
00:47:53.460 --> 00:47:56.099
in any way, intimate that I may at one point.
963
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:57.159
I don't think that's true.
964
00:47:57.699 --> 00:47:58.239
Well, my wife.
965
00:47:59.480 --> 00:47:59.559
Oh.
966
00:47:59.980 --> 00:48:00.219
Horrified.
967
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:02.719
When Goldblum was in here. Yeah. I mean, he pulls
968
00:48:02.780 --> 00:48:04.039
it off. You know what? I have to say, there
969
00:48:04.099 --> 00:48:06.159
is a sexual energy between Jeff Goldblum and I, and
970
00:48:06.179 --> 00:48:09.179
I'm not even kidding. Something's going on there. Mm-hmm. And
971
00:48:09.619 --> 00:48:13.989
I am a heterosexual male, but there's something going on there.
972
00:48:14.030 --> 00:48:14.550
You'd hit that.
973
00:48:14.829 --> 00:48:15.570
I'd hit that hard.
974
00:48:15.869 --> 00:48:16.090
Yeah.
975
00:48:16.269 --> 00:48:16.610
Yeah.
976
00:48:16.889 --> 00:48:18.610
Take a Louisville slugger to that.
977
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What? What?
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That's as if you could murder him. Why don't you
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stick to collecting presidential memorabilia and making wildly different fashion
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choices every time you come into this podcast space? For
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fuck's sake.
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Yeah.
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Oh, look, what's tomorrow? A pork pie hat? Oh, my God. Hey, look,
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he's wearing a World War I German helmet and golf shoes.
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I don't know. You're never the same guy two days
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in a row. What are you talking about? This is
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a very different look. I'm wearing a polo shirt. I know.
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But then two days ago, you're like an architect from
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the 20s.
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You're never the same. And you are dressed in the
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same uniform every time. Yes, because I came right from
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doing my show where I, in fact, wear a uniform.
993
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So nice thing for yelling at the ER doctor. for, hey,
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you're always in scrubs. I don't get it, ER doctor.
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Why are you always in scrubs? Why don't you change
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it up a little bit?
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Because I don't want to infect the patient whose brain
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I'm operating on.
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I'm just going to come in and dick his coveralls
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from now on.
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No, what I'm saying is pick a look and stick
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to it. It's very confusing. I'm trying to get... No,
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first of all, no. No, yes. I don't have to
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stick to a look. Yes, you do. I can express
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myself through sartorial. ways. Listen, first of all, you're cocky
1006
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because you know there's 900 other podcasts that you have
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going at this time. You come in, and it's like, oh, look,
1008
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:31.480
Gorley's a beekeeper. He's got a full net over his head.
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Who's he going to be tomorrow? Hey, look, he's the
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ambassador to Finland, and it's 1911. Hey, look, he's an
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00:49:38.860 --> 00:49:41.900
Arctic explorer. What am I wearing? No, today's is very different.
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Matt is wearing jeans and a nice, sensible polo shirt.
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Hold up the sweater you were wearing when you came in.
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I didn't realize. Yeah, it's a sweater.
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Yeah.
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I didn't realize you were in the IRA, and you
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were blowing up bridges. That's so cool. That's a nice shot.
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Oh, my God.
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You suffering bastards. Until the Brits are out. I'll show
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you how. Listen, Gorley, I like that you take chances
1021
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and you take wildly different chances. Today, you're just being
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a different person. That's all. Acting like I'm Lady Gaga
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or something. I mean, I'm just wearing pants and a shirt. Whatever.
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The point is not what you're wearing today. It's that
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it changes wildly. It doesn't change wildly. It does change wildly.
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Don't you dare ever speak when I'm speaking. The idea
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of a podcast with three people is that only one
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00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:23.800
speaks and the other two listen in reverence.
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In reverence?
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In reverence. You hired the wrong people. In reverential awe.
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I'm coming in in a hospital gown from now on.
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Open in the back. Seen that. What?
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What?
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God. This one took a, I mean, it took many
1035
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dark turns. It didn't really. It was fantastic. You took
1036
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many direct hits. All right, let's, please, I'm tired. Let's
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wrap this up. Let's wrap it up. I want to
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go to bed.
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