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Hi, this is
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We weed between the lines of Taylor's Swift lyrics one song at a time.
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I'm best, Swifty.
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I'm Adam,
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Swifty in Training.
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Tonight you're on the pod and without a warning, our
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voices are the best thing you've ever heard.
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Why?
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Because we're going to discuss Jump Then Fall, the first song from the B
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side of Taylor's
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uh fearless album, which is
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the Platinum
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edition, which came out with six extra songs.
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So first of all, how do you feel about like
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reissued CDs?
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Because
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I love.
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But
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But
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when people like remove songs, they edit songs out of their album
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and then put it back,
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is it not like sloppy seconds?
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It's not like, hey, we didn't think this was good enough for you, and now we're g
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I always kind of
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Like, did you want me to listen to this?
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Is this
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is
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should this have been cut, you know?
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I guess it's different
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At
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when
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this album came out and now, because back then
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streaming was not a thing
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and you still had to buy physical CDs and vinyls.
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So, you know,
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having a curated
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tight
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p
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uh
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track list
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was important.
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So you had to cut a lot.
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Um
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and so
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it made sense that
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once the album, the standard edition was out and it had, you know
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commercial success
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that you would try to make more money with
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uh
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uh
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another edition with more songs that you uh
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initially left on the cutting room floor.
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Uh
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now
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I do feel like it's become a little bit of a
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should I say dishonest
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or
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well, dishonest is probably a s too strong a word, but
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It's become too much of a marketing ploy
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rather than
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you know, a genuine, oh my gosh, I can't believe you love my work.
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Here's more
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than
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Yeah, now it's like I'm withholding things from you
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so that I have an excuse to, you know, bump it up again, bump up the album again by releasing, you know, stuff in
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little batches.
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And you all rebuy it again.
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Yeah.
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It
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and
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and like
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it on the start
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again.
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Like I have a question for for Swifty fans, like
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do
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when you when she releases an album, do you know it?
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You know she's gonna have a deluxe album coming after that, right?
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No, you don't
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She's she's released albums without having like
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additional songs later?
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She has, but it's not guaranteed.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Like
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Uh, you know, um
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with
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I believe
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folklore and evermore you don't get
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second
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additions
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with
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midnights
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What she did was she released
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a
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a standard album and then within twenty-four hours it's like, surprise he has
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more.
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You know, and she came up with like
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2 a.
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m.
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editions
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and like
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I don't know, uh, up
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all night editions
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um
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to play with the concept of midnights, which, you know, was primarily for sales, so you know, with different album covers
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I think she had four or five at the time
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of the standard
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version.
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Um, with
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more covers
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and then
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more
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editions.
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And then she gets more sales because
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by that time it
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already became well established as a fact that Swifties
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will buy them all.
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Yeah.
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As I did.
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It's like
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Pokemon.
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Yeah.
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Just to get different covers.
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Mm-hmm.
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And sometimes
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signed editions.
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What do you mean sometimes?
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Oh like
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Sometimes she would sign something.
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Even though it's the same cover I already have, but I would need to get it anyway.
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Oh
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my god, are you serious?
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No, I stopped doing that.
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But I did do that.
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So it's the same exact cover with her signature on it now?
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Yeah.
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That's cra
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and not even additional songs.
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It's just
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well
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that's crazy.
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Well
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Yeah.
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How many
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don't ask me
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of the same album do you have?
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Dude.
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What's the most copies of the same album that you have?
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Folklore came out with eight covers
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I think it was eight covers.
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I have I had
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I
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I I do have all of them.
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What do you do with it?
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Is there
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is it open?
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No, it's not even
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open.
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Are they worth something?
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I don't know.
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You haven't checked?
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I don't know.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Well, does it make you happy?
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Do you look at it sometimes?
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Yeah, I'll be like, oh, here they all are
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my babies.
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Well there you
go.
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That's worth it
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Yeah, but then I'm
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a hoarder
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now.
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Yeah, well that's the issue.
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You know, albums were what, like
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thirteen dollars back in the day or
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yeah.
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They still are.
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13 to 20.
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Was it a big purchase for you at the time?
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Yes.
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Each album?
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That's like a point.
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That's a lot of money.
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Don't
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tell me about it.
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Yeah, okay.
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Yeah.
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And sometimes
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it'll
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be like, you know, uh, you know, this
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the same album
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but like
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with a little swag in it.
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Like what she did with
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Showgirl was released a standard album
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and then
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different
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four other different editions
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and then
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those four editions with
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something
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in a box.
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I mean that's better
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Yeah.
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Then
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and I
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tried to get those additions with the boxes, but the orato
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got cancelled, so I guess I counted my blessings.
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Does she do like gotcha
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stuff, you know, like
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mystery boxes?
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No
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Okay.
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That should be on the way, right?
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At some point.
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Yeah, don't let's not give her ideas.
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Right?
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I mean
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let's not give her ideas.
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Like it's like in a
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Paper like
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cover and you don't know which cover you're getting until you buy it.
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You know, some of my friends who are K-pop fans, they end up with like
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forty
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copies of the same album just so that they could get like, you know, the mystery cards in them and hope that it's all, you know, twenty
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band
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members.
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Yeah.
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I need to express something too to our international audience.
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So
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a a phenomenon that was new to me
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is that there are like fan groups of K-pop
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bands
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who
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will rent out ad space
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on like
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taxis
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or what we call tuk-tuks
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for their birthday.
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So like they'll
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I did that story.
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Uh-huh
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Oh you did?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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A few years ago.
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So you should mention
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okay, so you can talk about this more but
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I was so
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But it's so old now.
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Yeah, but as an American I did not understand what was going on
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And and it's
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and I still see it every day, but like all these taxis and stuff have these birthday ads for different K
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pop
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stars, the fan groups
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pitching money for, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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I really wish like some K-pop star was like, hey, give it to charity and send me a photo and like I would like that more than like advertising my birthday.
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Because
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like,
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what's that gonna do?
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Like, if if everyone's aware of someone's birthday, but I just think people know like the fandom is real.
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Yes.
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I think on a level that even Americans
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don't necessarily
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like they're not pitching their money.
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But they're not pitching in their money to do ads for birthdays
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signs and stuff.
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Yeah.
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You know how that started
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That started during COVID
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and this is what I meant when I wrote a story about that.
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So
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this started during COVID.
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Um
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previously, you know, the
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Um, the the K
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pop
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fans in Thailand, they like
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to
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sh
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uh
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sh
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show their appreciation for their
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manes.
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Which is like their favorite
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member of the band, of which there could be twenty.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, and these
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little
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factions
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of
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fans
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of members of the same bands
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would sort of like compete with each other, uh, you know, try
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uh in in their expression of their love
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for them.
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So in Thailand
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and sorry, not Thailand, Bangkok.
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In Bangkok
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specifically, there are
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lots of ad
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spaces
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because
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we have huge billboards everywhere
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and that could be rented.
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Sort of like a Times Square kind of thing.
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And you could rent also billboards in
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uh
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public spaces like, you know, uh
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SkyTrain
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stations, subway
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stations.
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And previously
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these K
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pop
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fans would pour
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like
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tens of thousands of bot
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sh
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to do this to say
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happy birthday
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to uh their
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for
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for their favorite
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band members
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s so that they could go and take selfies
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and then sort of like
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tack them, tack tack the band members on social media so that they could repost and then, you know,
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you know, it's nice to be reposted
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by your favorite
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you know, singer.
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Um
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but then during COVID, n
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it was lockdown, right?
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So
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uh
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so
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and and like the ty
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the
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small businesses,
taxi drivers, tuk
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tuk
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drivers
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were
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basically, you know, suffering
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because of economic slowdown because these guys depend on people being out and about and tourists arriving.
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And so
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uh
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what
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a heartwarming thing that happened is
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the K
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-pop
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fans started to pool money
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to build to to print billboards to put on like the back of tuk
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-tuks
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or like on street food stalls instead
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so that they could spend the money that they were gonna spend anyway
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on these, you know, billboard
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digital billboard
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things for their
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uh
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favorite
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band members, uh, to instead give it to like the local small businesses who are struggling under COVID.
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And
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and now that's become more popular than
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than
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street signs
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and, you know, digital billboards.
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That's better.
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Yeah.
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That's better.
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I mean they're gonna spend the money anyway.
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There there's n
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the up
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There's
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no
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not spending.
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No, I know.
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If I was a K-pop star though, I would say, hey, give it to an orphanage.
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Take the selfie in front of the orphanage, I'll repost.
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Dude, like go plant some trees, I'll repost you.
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You know what I mean?
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But like
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Like
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do
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s give it to something beyond a birthday
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like
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ad for me.
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I would prefer
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it's become a culture for them, like
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And I'm not gonna comment on how I think about it.
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So
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do these things for Swift
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exist here?
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Like d do any fan clubs do anything like that?
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Only on her
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--> 00:10:02.820
around her birthday there will be
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like
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Tainos
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Swift tribute nights or something like that.
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Okay.
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But I don't think Swifties
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in Thailand
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are
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uh
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have
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a unified front.
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We we're not
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we're not
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s
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we're not like community driven the same way that K Pop fans are.
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And so we don't really do stuff like this and I guess we're a bit
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mostly either for
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teenagers without money
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or adults with
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actual bills and responsibilities.
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So
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And K
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pop
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fans are what?
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Which
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which
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f
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K
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pop
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fans are like first jobbers.
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Yeah.
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Um
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teenagers who, you know
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Are you using their parents' money to buy birthday billboards?
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No, they they they save money.
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They save money.
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But I think for
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s
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I think Swifties
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don't have that kind of counter
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here.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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Maybe it was
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We don't have a strong enough number for
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pooling money to
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be enough.
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Yeah.
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Do you think because
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she was like in English
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speaking artists earlier.
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Why?
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Like why isn't the Swift
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community in Thailand as big as like
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K-pop fans here?
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I don't know.
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Because she doesn't come here ever?
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Yeah
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Whereas
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the
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K-pop fans come here all the time.
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Okay, that's fair.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So what do you think about the song?
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This is one of my favorite songs.
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Really?
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F from this album.
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You say that by the way.
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From
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this album.
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From this album.
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No, for real.
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Um
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this was the second song I learned to play on the guitar after White Horse.
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Because I got my guitar that year that this album came out.
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Yeah, and you know, I I like it because it's such a lighthearted, feel-good
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song.
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It's so optimistic.
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And, you know, it's it captures the feeling of being like
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euphoric and, you know, uh
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so optimistic about the future.
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Um
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Just because you have a crush on someone.
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Yeah, the the chords are very simple.
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Yeah, it's a good song to learn guitar with.
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Yes
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It's pretty simple to sing.
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And it's cute.
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It's so cute.
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It's ridiculously cute.
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Yeah.
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I like the way you sound in the morning.
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We're on the phone and without a warning, I realize your laugh is the best sound I've ever heard
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I like the way I can't keep my focus.
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I watch you
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talk.
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You didn't notice.
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I hear the words, but all I can think is we should be together.
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Damn.
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That
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should be on like
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on
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a Valentine's Day cards.
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And so what's the fall part of this?
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Jump and fall in love or jump and fall into
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pieces?
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I guess it can go both ways.
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It could go either ways.
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But no, I think she meant jump and fall in love with me
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Okay.
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Yes.
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Could go either way, that's the risk.
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Take take a risk and like fall in love with me.
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Or like
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take a risk and fall into
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pieces.
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Yeah.
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I mean that's the that's the scary part.
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The person you love don't love me back.
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Doesn't she say she's gonna like catch you if you fall on your knees or something?
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Yeah, wow, good memory.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm gonna catch you
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if you fall.
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Oh, and then there's like
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if you fall on your knees, I'll catch you, I'll catch you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's
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one.
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Yeah.
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I I like how the song
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the the verses are
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have like
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very hyper
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specific details that
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you know
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everyone can relate to.
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Like I like the way your hair falls in your face.
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Yeah, everyone's hair falls in their face.
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But sometimes
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When it's a person you like, like
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that
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is
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so much more attractive than, you know, a normal guy on the street.
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Than like a dirty bum with a hair in their
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face.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I do think the
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fall on your knees and I'll catch you.
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I
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the reason I left
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that part.
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No, I think it stood out with me
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because it's so confusing to me still.
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Because it's so literal.
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Like
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fall to your knees
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Yeah, but like
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they're they
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're
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actually
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tripping?
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Like
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No, like when life breaks you and you're like
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like
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like your knees buckle under you or something.
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That's how I imagine it.
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Or maybe like you're in prayer.
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Yeah
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when people say things that bring you to your knees, I'll catch you.
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The time is gonna come when you're so mad you could cry.
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I'll hold you through the night until you smile.
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Damn.
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And there's also yeah, the bottom's gonna drop out from under your feet.
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I'll catch you.
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I'll catch you.
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I like how she says it with certainty.
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Like the bottom is definitely gonna drop out.
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You're gonna need me, buddy.
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Yeah, gonna need me.
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Yeah, but I'll catch you.
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I'll catch you.
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It's cute.
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This would also be like a good like father-daughter
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song or something.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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Wait, no.
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Yeah, well I guess it
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it still works.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, I don't know.
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I like the way you're you're everything I ever
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wanted.
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That works.
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I don't know, it depends how creepy you get.
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Yeah.
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No, it's cute.
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Um, I didn't realize that like, you know, cause she was playing it live.
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I didn't realize that it was like a a song that
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was like a
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I guess a hit.
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She was playing on like dancing with the stars or something.
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Um
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yeah.
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I think the album
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got
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like
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a
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promotion bump when it got re released as a patin up platinum edition.
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Sure.
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Yeah, but
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this
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is
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Such a cute song.
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I like it.
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Like there's no way you listen to it and not feel immediately lighter
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and a little bit happier.
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I mean it sounds like an Apple commercial song.
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Like an early iPod
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song.
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I wouldn't know because I don't watch
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those commercials.
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I do.
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It was the same
time period.
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They used to be very
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You know, like the bright little colored
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multicolored iPods.
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Wow, nobody actually will know what I'm talking about though.
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Yeah, no, it fit with that era.
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This was 2010-ish, right?
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Really bright, sunny.
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Oh
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2008 we said, right?
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2008, yeah.
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Bright, sunny.
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Yeah.
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This was the
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the platinum edition came out a little after.
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So I think it was 2009.
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Mm.
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Mm.
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Yeah.
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So cute.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I wanna play this on the guitar again.
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I don't know if I still can, but
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It should be
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relatively easy.
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Yeah.
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And
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best
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will
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sing it.
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No, I'm not gonna sing it.
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We will do at the end of this
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a big jam session for all
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you
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No.
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No
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Do you think it's
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like
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do you think it's unfair for
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someone to be saying, I'll never leave you, I'm always gonna be there for you, I'll always catch you
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I'm gonna stay through it all, so take the risk with me.
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It's a bit
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You think it's like love bombing?
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Or what do you mean?
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It's like
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it's
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you can't
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You can't foresee you changing your mind.
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So in a way it's like, sure you are making promises that you think you can keep, but you can't guarantee that you will be able to keep them.
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So
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I mean
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yeah, but then let's not do wedding
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vows
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if
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if
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like
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fifty percent of people get divorced.
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Right.
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Am
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I a bit too jaded?
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No, I mean I think
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It is funny how uncertain we are about everything, but when you are like
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into someone, you feel so certain.
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You're like, I
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love
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you, I'm gonna m marry you and this feeling will never go away.
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Like you
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that is where like the love
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is blind phrase comes from, you know, not
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that like
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You don't care how someone looks, but like
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you all you see is the now
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and you're just like you can't see anything else.
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And so you're just like, this is a permanent state of being.
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Um, and that slowly wears away, I think.
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You know, unless you have
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like
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but
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those words when you hear them
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are nice.
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People want security.
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At the end of the day, that's why people like like marriage, right?
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It's like
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I
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This person is pledging
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security that they're not gonna walk away from me when I'm hot
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mess all the time or something.
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And
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But I mean that's where a lot of problems happen.
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Haven't you gone to fights before with like
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exes
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where you're like, but you said you'd love
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me forever
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And
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you've you broke your promise.
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So
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you said you
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but you said this and it's like
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yeah, you know, people change opinions, you know?
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Yeah
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Yeah.
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You know
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this just reminds me of Forever and Always, which we just covered
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a few episodes ago, where Taylor called Jo
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Joe Jonas out on saying
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Forever and Always.
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And now look at her.
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Hypocrite.
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No, no
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No.
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I mean what did she say to Joe, you know?
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I
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I
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it goes both
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like
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'cause she's a romantic too.
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You say things, you know.
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What do you
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And also, are you not supposed to say anything?
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Like are you supposed to be like, I like you right now, I like you right now.
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Don't get
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don't think too far ahead.
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Yeah.
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Maybe
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this is what she said to him.
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Jumped and
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fall into
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me.
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It may not be about anyone, but you know, she was dating Joe at the time.
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Yeah.
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In the song, right?
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But yeah, it's it's done in such a cute way that it doesn't sound desperate at all, actually.
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I
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No.
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I think
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um
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this is something to aspire to.
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Not coming off as desperate.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, no, it is a good strategy.
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You're right.
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It is the best approach where it's like, look, if you join me, it'll be a lot of fun, and if you don't
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You're gonna miss out.
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I'm
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still okay.
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Yeah.
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Which is the best way you can approach anyone.
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Yeah, the best way to approach anyone is to not approach them.
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Just leave them be.
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Do you want do you want to know what my secret not secret but my strategy was kind of back in the day?
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Like
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when I would um
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when I had a crush on someone, and this works, I encourage everyone to try this.
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Treat the person you have a crush on like they're dating your best friend.
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And not
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and not in like a way that you want to poach your best friend's girlfriend, but what I mean is
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it makes you feel a lot more comfortable with that person
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when you're not trying to pursue them
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When you just assume that it's off the table
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and that you're just friendly and comfortable with them,
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that is a lot more attractive than like
overtly hitting on someone.
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And
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You know, if you are acting secure and comfortable with someone and you know in your head pretending that they're off
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limits, that is
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so
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much more like
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um
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I don't know like
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comfortable
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for the other person to like you too
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because there's not any weird awkwardness
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Between you.
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So that was always my thing.
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Like if I like someone, I would just be like I would I
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literally would just pretend they're dating my best friend and just treat them like that.
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And and then it would like
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work more naturally.
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You know, 'cause you're you're you're gonna be weird trying to be cool, you know?
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Yeah, I guess.
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I
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and it's y
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you know, n
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hard to keep that up.
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Yeah.
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So
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just
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It's the best policy to not
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want it.
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Don't show your emotions, don't acknowledge them, and don't know how you feel.
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Cool, but
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don't want it
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Don't want to want it.
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But think about this.
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If some
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you have to act the way
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you would want someone to act towards you.
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And if someone was desperate towards you, that's a turnoff.
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Sure.
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So that's why you have to do the same.
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And it's not playing games, but if someone really likes you but they're weird or creepy or awkward to you, of course you're gonna shun them.
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But if they are like cool and friendly and nice, you're gonna be drawn towards them.
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Like that's normal.
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It goes both ways.
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And it's not mind games.
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It's just dropping the mind games
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you
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were trying to play, hitting on someone or something
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Okay.
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So yeah Yeah.
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So all I'm saying is
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jump.
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Then fall.
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But like discreet
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discreetly, discreetly, and like you don't really need to fall and if you fell it was like
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It's fine.
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I'm fine.
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You
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like
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stumble away.
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Oh
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my god.
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It's a bloody business.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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And on that note.
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How did we turn a positive song into such a
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No, it's not.
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Ending.
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This is a good attitude to have
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is
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you smile while you're jumping.
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And if you fall, you keep smiling.
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Yeah, then go to physiotherapy later.
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It's fine.
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Never show weakness
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Okay.
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All right.
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S
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see
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see
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you next week.
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Okay, bye.
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Bye.