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“Do I Even Want This?” Michelle Thompson on the Question Lawyers Rarely Have Time to Ask

“I thought… ‘I’m earning forty thousand dollars a year, working seventy to ninety hours a week… and I’m going to have a heart attack.’” Before becoming a coach for lawyers, Michelle Thompson practiced as a labor lawyer. Fueled by caffeine and alcohol, the years of overwork and financial stress took…

From In-House Executive to Coach: Pam Richardson’s Journey Beyond Law

“I thought people with rich husbands could make career pivots, not me.” After 20 years as a lawyer and in-house executive, Pam Richardson had the career many attorneys work decades to achieve. But beneath her title, compensation and success, she couldn’t shake the feeling “There has to be something…

How Stephanie Wilkins Moved from Big Law to Legal Tech

“I was unhappy every single day. I was a good lawyer, but I hated it.  Then I wondered, ‘How good might I be at something I actually liked doing?’” For Stephanie Wilkins, this question was a wake up call. After eight years as a litigator with a partnership lined up, Stephanie made the decision to w…

What Do You Want? Finding Purpose Beyond Big Law with Megan Senese

In this episode, Elena sits down with Megan Senese, co-founder and principal of Stage, a woman-owned business development and marketing firm that helps lawyers grow authentic, sustainable books of business. After years of doing marketing for big law firms, Megan shared similar struggles that women …

Fear of Failure? Ghazal Tajmiri on Following Your Dreams

We may tell our children, “Reach for the moon and even if you fall short, you land among the stars.” Yet, do we take our own advice?  In this deeply personal conversation, Elena sits down with former big law attorney and WILL Coach Ghazal Tajmiri to talk about what happens after you decide to leav…

What Galvanizes Us to Change? Reflections on September 11th and 50 Conversations with Women Lawyers

*Trigger warning: Discussion of September 11th, 2001 In this episode, I recognize the 25th anniversary of September 11th, which happens to coincide with the 50th WILL podcast episode. I share my September 11th story because I was here in New York City.  I reflect also on what happened afterwards …

Goodbye Law, Hello Fashion! Anushila Shaw, Photographer

Imagine leaving law for photography, excitedly opening your own studio and then finding yourself in the middle of a global pandemic! In this episode, Elena talks with lawyer turned fashion and beauty photographer; Anushila Shaw.    Anushila shares how she transitioned from securities litigation int…

Fall Sunday Sprint: What it can give you!

In this episode, five WILL Members and Alumni share their experiences with the Sunday Sprint and what it did for them.  The Sunday Sprint is an end-the-year-strong community event where you reset how you do your morning and evenings.Create new micro habits, rituals, and routines that prioritize you…

The Call from Law to Mediumship: Stacy Schaffer

Imagine that you’re attached to the “lawyer identity” to the point that you can’t “let go” of fixed attitudes, beliefs and judgements? In this episode, Elena chats with Stacy Schaffer; a former lawyer turned medium, coach, and healer. Stacy shares her journey of letting go of who she “was” to make …

Elena Deutsch of Women Interested in Leaving Law: Why Successful Attorneys Are Afraid to Walk Away

Send us Fan Mail How do you know if you're in the wrong legal career or simply going through a difficult stretch?  Elena Deutsch, founder of Women Interested in Leaving Law, joins Niraj to discuss why attorneys feel trapped by money, prestige, and professional identity, how to recognize when someth…