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Welcome to Harris County Public Library's Reading Room Radio, where your to be red pile gets a little more exciting one micro podcast at a time.
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Hello and welcome to Reading Room Radio.
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This is our group again, Good Spice, Bad Writing.
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Woo! Woo! My name is Daisy.
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I'm Percy.
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And this week we have a special guest with us.
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We're getting the male perspective.
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So you're gonna introduce yourself.
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Hi, my name is Andrew.
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Yay! So this week we're reading Raiders of the Lost Heart.
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It's a little kind of Laura Croft, Indiana Jones romance.
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Essentially, rival archaeologists team up on a secret Aztec mission.
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It could lead their careers or hearts into ruins, as the book says.
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Enemies and rivals to lovers.
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Oof, close proximity, forced proximity.
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Forced proximity, that's right.
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Had a lot, I think.
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But I enjoyed it.
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I did too.
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I think it was fun and silly.
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I had fun too.
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I'm um I've never really read a book in the genre.
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I'm new, I'm new to the genre.
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Um it was enjoyable.
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It was a fun read.
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And and it was uh it was pretty quick too.
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It was, it was fast to read.
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I think uh also I think the our previous books that we've been doing.
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They've been huge.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This is something if like if you guys want to just get you want something fast, fun.
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Palette cleanser, yeah.
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Oh, yeah, definitely.
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Something to read during your lunch break.
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Your tinter mine.
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Oh my god.
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So do you want to go over our the spice level you think it's?
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Yes.
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So our spice levels, we always level it from one to five.
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And this one, we rated it a three, uh, which means it leads to one spicy scene.
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Level one means just a kiss.
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Level two would have been tension with a kiss, and level three, of course, it leads to one spicy encounter.
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It never reached four or five, which is otherworldly, but definitely three.
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Yeah, um, but I'm fine with that.
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I think it I think it would have been more intense, I would have been like, ew.
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What?
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Compared to the other books we've read, girl.
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When we get more to the when we get more discussing of why, you know, my thoughts of why I didn't want it to reach level five yet.
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Oh my god.
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Yeah, I think it was close to four, as in like they had their little intimate scenes more than once, but it wasn't anything like crazy or like a lot a lot of it was like the lead up.
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Yeah, there was a lot of tension.
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I mean Which is great.
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We love the tension.
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That's what I need.
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Yeah, I like the intention more than the actual encounters, but like there's Amy.
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I mean, yeah, as a as a newcomer, I would have rated this a four, but I because it was like it was multiple, and it was like I was like, there was times when I was reading this and not confused, but I was reading this in in public, and I like I had to close the book and just sit it down for a second because I was like, I what am I reading?
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No, I think it's like but I mean to join this podcast.
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There were things that I didn't, I was like, this is interesting.
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So very fun book, but I didn't want to um get into like the whole relationship of this book.
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Of course, we have our characters, we have Sokoro, which nobody calls her that.
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They call her you know Dr.
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Mejia, or they call her her main nickname is Cory.
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Of course, Ford.
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Ford is like the lead archaeologist in this, technically, which is like a secret to be revealed within later in the book.
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Right, right.
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The way that that all happened.
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We have Ethan, which is like her long lost friend in college, and they've been yeah, they were like friends that they kind of lost touch.
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It was all three of them that were friends, right?
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Yeah, even back then.
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I guess like I think from what my understanding was they like were in school together, yeah, but Corey and Ford were like always competing, even back then.
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Yeah, so they weren't like friends, they weren't friends, and so that one night in the library.
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one night they were referenced a hundred times just to find out they just stared intimately at each other.
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Like, you know what?
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What happened?
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They just stared at each other, they never did anything, they didn't even I think they just got close to kissing, and somebody was like, You know what though?
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I enjoyed that scene that kept on repeating it because I was like, What happened?
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And you know what?
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It must have been some good tension because they didn't forget about it.
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No, another eight years, and they didn't forget about it.
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He had a whole other relationship with somebody the whole time thinking about her, and they didn't do anything, all they did is shared a cup of coffee, which I shared a cup of coffee, and since he tasted the coffee from the same cup as well.
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Oh my god, the indirect kiss, like on us, it got me my heart.
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I was like, oh indirect kiss.
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And he remembered her coffee.
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Yeah, it's like eight years later, you know.
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I'm buying the same Jamaican coffee.
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I would have bought a bash Ford, but actually, he didn't remember all of that.
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I know, I know, that's true, that's true.
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He has some we have some qualms with him.
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Yeah, because that's my next, like I wanted to get into that.
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Do you like Ford, or did she even think Ethan was had a chance?
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Because he was into her before he was.
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Oh, that's right.
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I totally forgot Ethan was even into her.
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I know.
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He found his girl.
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He found sunshine.
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The B plot, the B plot behind the scenes lead.
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I actually quite enjoyed that.
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I felt more realistic.
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It was like, come on, it's really not only these two people.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I don't know.
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I think the Ethan thing was such a non-starter.
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Yeah, he knew it too.
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I feel like Ethan was like, I like you from afar.
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Yeah, it's not gonna go anywhere.
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It's okay to have a crush, you know.
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A crush.
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So you like forged for her?
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You thought, oh yeah, this is the person.
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I don't know.
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I agree.
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I almost felt like they had a bunch of tension and a lot of lustful connection, but I was like, what other connection do y'all have?
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Like, I'm like, I'm like, where is this relationship being built off?
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Y'all just want to get freaky.
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The book made it seem like, oh, like Ethan was like, you guys are perfect for each other, but you don't see it.
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And I said, Where?
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No, no, no, where?
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But like, give me some examples.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'm confused.
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Give me some examples, other than they shared coffee one night.
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And there's a shared interest of archaeology.
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Yeah, that's about it.
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Yeah.
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So like they're the same.
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Because they live very different lives where he's kind of more a what is it, A-type A, right?
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I guess so.
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And he's like more cautious, he's not as adventurous, he's not a risk taker the way that she is.
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Um, but I guess that's what they're going for, the whole opposite's attract kind of thing.
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We sauce Matthews and and badass Makia.
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Well, they that's what they call themselves in the wall.
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I own them in agreement.
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Because at first I was like, okay, cute little tension.
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And then I was like, where is it going to lead up?
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Are they gonna be like, is he gonna be flirtatious?
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Because he was, oh, she's the woman for me, but I have to focus because I'm such a bad person.
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Right, right, because I took this job from her, and she doesn't even know.
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It makes me, I'm like, I wonder what long term this relationship would look like.
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Because like all this rivalry, it is exciting passionate tension that that spills over into more pac uh intimate passion.
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But in terms of like an actual long-term relationship, does this partnership work?
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Do they they can start getting pissed at each other by anything?
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I know they said they're gonna be fighting.
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So they were like, I like you, you like me, and by like attractive to each other, because that's pretty much all they have.
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They're just attractive each
other.
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She's like, I hate you, but I also want to kiss you.
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That's like how like people do their marriage vows where they're like, we fight all the time, but I love no.
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What do they call it when the bells are ringing?
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Where they're like, Well, you know, like danger's coming, and they're like, Oh, like the sirens?
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The sirens, where you're like, saxophones, are getting louder.
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The saxophones are getting louder.
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So they're like, We're gonna fight all the time.
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I can't but I want to fight with you all the time.
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But actually, actually, after their first interaction, he's like, you know what?
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I don't care.
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I he's like, I don't care, I I love her.
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And then she loves him.
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And I was like, This doesn't make sense.
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Yeah, they fell in love past.
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I agree, but also I was gonna say that I do appreciate that they didn't know each other for years.
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That's true, that's true.
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You're right, you're right, you're right.
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I almost forgot about that.
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The story started, which makes it more believable, in my opinion.
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At least in terms of they are familiar with each other's personalities, right?
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But that's been eight years apart, right?
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They can argue, but now it's like together.
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Which is I don't know, two years, three years.
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I don't I don't know how long somebody goes to archaeology for, but I can put that into it.
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Right.
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Well, supposedly, I was if you look at the prologue or like the questions, the author said, I know that it takes longer, but no one's gonna write a book.
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No one's gonna read a book.
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I do everything correctly.
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Like I like her honestly, she's like, let's get real.
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Yeah, I'm writing a romance book and leave me alone.
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And you're right, you're right.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm willing to suspend some disbelief.
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Yeah, especially in order to believe this book.
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And I'm fine.
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I always laugh at like, no, you're right.
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What I did find funny, and I'm not familiar with like the tropes of this genre as much as y'all are,
but the fact that like um this switches perspective between the two of us chapter was interesting, and I think as far as like with their dynamic, they both have big egos.
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Um I I find it interesting that is it lust or is it a curiosity for love that like both of them introspectively they have this flare-up of their ego and like anger towards each other, and they both kind of choose to I want to say sacrifice, but kind of maybe let go of something in order to forgive the other and try to make it work, which I found interesting.
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That sounds really ideal.
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Yeah, I mean, she didn't stay as mad at him for that because she loved me.
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And I but I was confused because I mean, first of all, I'm gonna be honest, Ford got on my nerves.
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But it's so K drama, like it's so very much very much like there was miscommunication, but I never reached out to you for eight years.
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Like, oh yeah, telephones that exist, a letter, email, like I would hate that if someone reaches out to me after like six or eight years, and they're like, by the way, this was a miscommunication, like, bro, the time times of essence.
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What was the point?
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What was the reason?
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Why did you think you saw?
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Okay, but it's fine.
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I guess I guess at the end, they were kind of cute though.
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At the end, oh my god, the end.
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I was listening to the audiobook in the car while I was driving to work, and the end I got so scared that he freaking died that I like, I like the screaming in my car.
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I was like, he's not dead, he's not dead.
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You're freaking lying to me.
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He did not die.
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And the way she she wrote it, too.
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She was like, Oh, I miss him.
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Yeah.
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I'm like, I was so scared.
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I was like, you cannot be dead.
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I wasn't disbelieved.
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I was like, surely, surely she's not ending it this way.
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Surely, not in her first.
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Because it wasn't until like the last page or two.
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No, it was literally the last, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like that we dad had the author was great.
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I was like, she didn't cut him off.
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I'm just gonna, and then I was like, yeah, she didn't kill him off.
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Like, I knew it'd be, but I was like with a little anxiety.
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I was like, but I really enjoyed the way she played it, like the way she was ready, and I was like, this is this is great.
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This is a great writing, but I do want to get into making it.
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Oh, the corny part is our most memorable quotes from this book.
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Yeah, you're right.
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There was a lot of really good stuff, and then she would just write something that I was like, oh, it took me right out.
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Yeah, yeah.
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What was one of them?
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I think the one that stuck with me, I did like take notes and like mark some things, but the one that I kept coming back to just popped into my because it's been like a week or two since I've read it.
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It's just the tough chicas don't cry.
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Tough chicas don't.
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Tough chicas don't.
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And I heard it the first time, and I was like, I was laughing.
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I said, you know what?
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I've never said that before in my life as an Hispanic woman.
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It's like the merchant in it, like and I was like, fine, I'll let it go.
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I'll let it go.
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But then she brought it up again and again.
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Yes, the first time I was like, Um, I'll forgive it.
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And then you kept coming back to it.
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It feels like um You're hitting your limit.
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I'm like, I'm I'm about to close the book.
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It's like those TV shows that are trying to convince us that these characters are so Hispanic.
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Oh my god, like in their and they're investigators in like a little cop show or something.
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And you just like throw in random Spanish words here.
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That's exactly what I like to quote like A Got B right off the back um on like the intro where it was describing her her smile.
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And so she put a small devilish smile formed on Cory lips.
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Like the Grinch who stole crystals.
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I didn't imagine it though.
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I did imagine it.
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So it's so and her the little point on her neck curled awesome.
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Uh always her laugh, like her loud laugh.
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Oh my gosh, yeah, she caught her.
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Burrito bonito, we're around again.
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I said, girl, okay, we mentioned it already.
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Let it go.
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We know we know, let it go.
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I know we try to laugh at ourselves, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But I'm thinking like every time she said that, I was like, do I have that laugh?
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Like laugh.
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You know what?
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I was like, you know what?
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Maybe I was like, I never heard anyone say the burrito.
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I would be offended if someone came and go to the don't you dare.
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Plain and simple, Corey was all that and a bag of chips and Ford like chips a lot, even though Cory's not really plain or simple.
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I know.
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So it's like at the same time, it's like, does Ford even know her?
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Yeah, she it's complicated and abstract.
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I'm gonna bring my another this at Ford.
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He's like, Oh, I like her for her intelligence.
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But the first thing he said when he like looked at her, he was like, Can I haj you?
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And I was like, bro, and he would like her.
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That's one of those things that felt really contradictory about him.
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He was like saying all these like really arrogant things and like objectifying things and then internally feeling bad about them.
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And I have this moment marked here, which I thought was like a little bit too on the nose, I think, on the writing, where he's like, Who knew that behind all that sass and beauty was the smartest, kindest, most badass chick ever?
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Also, like I hate the idea that it's like all it has to be hidden.
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Why can't both exist at the same time without being like, who knew?
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And like she knew she knew herself.
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That's her struggle.
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You're right, though.
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Who doesn't think that way?
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Who speaks like that?
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It's like it's it's like behind those false eyelashes is something deeper hard.
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Like literally, Corey's whole thing in this book is that people give her respect to her name.
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Like, she did that.
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He went to school, she she's a doctor, she's doing all these high-stakes projects and stuff, and everyone's like, Yeah, you're cool, but you're beautiful.
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And they're yeah, like it's so objectified.
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And he was saying that, and that's why I was like, For I don't know.
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Oh my god, yeah, around the end to when he what does he say?
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Right before she slapped him.
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Oh, yeah.
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Because he said something, he said something ugly.
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People only recognize you for your looks, anyways, or something like that.
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And then she slapped him, and I was like, do it again.
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That's so ugly and mean.
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And she also was like, and like the fact that she even right after that paid for his mom's hospital bill.
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30,000.
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Oh, oh, I feel like okay, I do think they both have their issues, but I think Cory always came out to me as the bigger person.
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Like, he wanted to be she wouldn't like hide being upset, she doesn't act like she's above her own anger.
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She knows she gets angry, yeah, but then she would always like forgive him, do that for him.
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And him, he had to like self-wallow.
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Yeah, and he literally sighed the whole time.
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He's like, For is like, it's because everything came easy to me, and now this year I've been struggling because my girl's karma.
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My girl left me.
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Yeah, he's recognizing me, right?
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Yeah, and I was privilege only takes you so far.
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Yeah, that's a good point.
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Yeah, but how far?
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Because he struggled for like not even half a year, then Corey comes along and sees him.
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So I'm for how hmm.
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That's true.
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He doesn't struggle that long.
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That's true.
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T I do like that the exhibition was based around like their romance.
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I thought that was gonna get I like that that it was like the secret photos.
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I was like, wait.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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And those were the blackmail photos.
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Yeah, which I was like, okay, okay, cool.
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Also, crazy that they were gonna blackmail them with photos of Corey.
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I was like, wouldn't you have a case on yourself?
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Or would it be like it would be exposed without anyone knowing anybody?
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I guess the it would they would have done it anonymously, and they did it, they did it too.
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So the exhibition oh they did yeah, so the whole exhibition, right?
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It's like a love story that her pictures were sent out and they were on the internet, and then but instead of her hiding, she said I
kind of just I took it, everyone took it, uh took it well in a sense that they knew that they were bad and they were not, they were behind her this time around, but yeah, that's how they did it.
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They were still they're still they did still get released, yeah.
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Horrible.
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But I wanted to end this on a fun note.
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Okay, okay.
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If this was a movie, because I think it would be a good movie, a little funny.
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It would be cute, yeah.
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What would be the theme song or like a main theme song that you would think that they use?
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You want to start off with yours?
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Yes, I want to start off with letting you see by Camilo, which is literally him saying, Oh, I love you, I'm here.
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I'm just waiting for you to say yes.
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Do you see my face?
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Do you see how obsessed I am with you?
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Just say yes.
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Beautiful.
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I think I I had a couple songs in mind, but I think I would go with Simplemente Amigos by Ana Gabriel because of their public perception, their dynamic is very much like bitter rivals, always competing.
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And so then for them to have like this secret intimacy behind closed doors that nobody knows about, and that they're like kind of scared to like admit to themselves and to other people.
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Yeah, so I would choose that song.
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That is so cute.
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Wow, y'all went so in depth, it's y'all.
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I did I did down in Mexico by the coaster is only because it reminds that song's just fun and it reminds you of the movie Deathproof, and I thought it would be I don't think it'd be a good intro song.
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It might be better songs depict the book more.
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Well, maybe it would just be a fun, like trailer song.
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We'll make it a trailer.
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Oh or montage.
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Montage, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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In the book.
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I had really great scenes of them.
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The river raft, the journey.
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The river raft was cool, yeah, yeah.
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All of that.
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That's actually pretty cool when you think about where they're at.
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I was gonna say my favorite little tension part was when they first go into the woods, and she's trying to leave, and he's like finds her, and and then somebody comes, they're like, I think they went into the
woods, and he like is immediately like, I gotta kiss her, I guess, to hide the finally.
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No, no, no.
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I love that he that was the opportunity.
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It were taking forever.
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I said, Okay, you're washing dishes really closely.
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Well, I wanted to get to it.
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But I I really enjoyed that.
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I enjoyed the build-up a lot, and then when we finally got to it, it was really fun to read.
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I would say for me, I don't know about y'all, but after maybe the second encounter they have, there's a little bit of a lull.
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They're just like mad at each other.
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Yeah, they're like a little mad at each other, and it's like, all right, well, let's go find this artifact.
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Yeah, they don't even care anymore.
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I guess they got work to do.
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They're adults.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Okay, I guess we'll do our jobs.
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But with the twist uh in like the uh of uh antagonist, which I I don't I won't spoil anything if if you're if you want to read the book, but it does pick up towards the end, and I think it wraps up pretty nicely.
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What would you rate this book?
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On a scale of one to five?
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Yeah, scale of one to five, I'd give it a three, I think.
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I think I give it a three outside.
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Yeah, it was enjoyable, it's an easy read, short and sweet, some pretty decent characterization and world building, albeit some corny writing.
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We could look at that and DZ, you were saying what was your score again?
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Oh, I think like three, three point five, yeah.
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It was fine.
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It was fine.
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Yeah, I am in agreement.
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I think three and a half, I think I give, yeah, three and a half just because I was laughing.
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I know this book was not meant for me to laugh.
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As much as it made me laugh, and then at the end, it made me quick like be a little bit like hee hee.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So it did what I needed to do.
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It did what I needed to do, and it was really fast.
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I did I read this, I think in one day.
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It was yeah, seriously, it was super fast, and it was fun.
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Yeah, excellent work, Joe Segura.
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Yay, good job.
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Congrats, congrats.
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I think that's it for us today.
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Yes, oh my gosh, thank you so much for joining us, Andy.
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Thank you for having me.
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I had fun.
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Well, we look forward to our next one.
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It will be probably a book called a priest.
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So we're switching up, yeah.
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We're still doing humans, but this time Halloween.
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Thank you, bye.