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Speaker 2: He finds Stephon Diggs.
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Speaker 1: He splits the seam on a 32-yard game-winning touchdown, and that was the difference in the ballgame. As
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the Commanders go into New York, and they win by the score of 24-21. No one is more happy than the Dallas Cowboys with this because, hey, the Cowboys get an opportunity, and they play in a couple of weeks. But Javon Holland picked off– Jaden in the end zone, and then Darius Washington picked him off again, and we'll talk about some of those costly turnovers. But Ocho, even though they started the second half, they get a touchdown, and then all of a sudden punt, punt, interception, they seemingly couldn't get anything going. But when the rubber needed to meet the road, when they needed to find a way to get to the end zone and win this ballgame, Jaden Daniels was spectacular, and Stephon Diggs, the old Wiley vet, loaded in, and they win this ballgame. What did you like about the Commanders Because seemingly, like, man, this game is– they done lost this game.
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Speaker 2: Listen.
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Speaker 3: We ain't lost yet. Honestly, they should have lost this game, Joe. Obviously, the Giants were in control towards the end of the game. That fourth and one– actually, third and one. I don't really like that call. I don't like that call that far backed up and going for a quarterback sting and bringing Jameis Winston in when the defense already knows what you're doing. In that scenario, this is just me, Unc. This is just me. I want to give them something they haven't seen all game. I want to keep them guessing. I don't want to have Jameis come in because when Jameis comes in the game, they know exactly what you're doing. So what do they do? They stack the box.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 3: They stack the box. And you hope you can get it, but you don't get it. I would have liked to run some type of trickery. I call it safe, safe trickery, Uncle Joe. Something that won't put the ball in harm's way, that they haven't seen all game, that they really might not have seen on film. We don't know what's going to come in that specific scenario. They win the game right there. It shouldn't even got to this point. It shouldn't even got to this point. You should have been able to run the clock out by getting that third down. Once you put the ball back in their hands, even with interception happening after that, the game should have been over right there. But again, you give them the ball again with another opportunity.
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Speaker 2: And that punt with that bull jive shank punt.
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Speaker 4: Yes!
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Speaker 3: What are we doing?
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Speaker 1: He didn't get no pressure, Ocho. He didn't even get pressure. And you mean to tell me the one time that we need you to boom it?
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: You got to have that. Hey, listen. We need you to put them all the way back as far as possible. As far as possible. Yet, you don't do it.
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Speaker 2: Listen.
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Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels with some costly interceptions. Because of those interceptions, you're supposed... Simply because of those interceptions
and when they happen, you're supposed to lose this game.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: When they happen. The Giants lost this game. It's not what the commander did. It's what the Giants didn't do, which is why they lost this game.
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Speaker 2: They were trying to protect the lead versus extending. Win the game. Yeah, versus winning the game.
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Speaker 5: Hey, look, I thought the Giants had some bright spots. I thought J.J. spinning that thing out there, Uncle Ocho. And look, they pretty much had control of the game. You know, those interceptions, I thought the fourth quarter was wild, you know, just to say the least. But Jaden McDaniels, Jaden Daniels, you know, them two pigs hurt him, and I didn't expect for him to win, but he the happiest one in.
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Speaker 2: The room right now. Okay, Ocho here.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: He saved himself.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: He saved himself.
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Speaker 5: Hey, think about it, bro. Them two pigs he threw in that fourth, you're supposed to lose that game.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: And, but you got, I fought the giants because they got conservative. And I understand. And that's what I say. It's hard to play for a lead because how aggressive should I be?
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Speaker 2: How aggressive can I be? Right.
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Speaker 1: Because I don't want to get too aggressive. Cause everybody gonna say, Joe, we lose the game.
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Speaker 2: Oh, Joe.
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Speaker 1: Hey, you had to leave. Why are you still throwing it? Atlanta Falcons up 28 to three.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Hey, sprinkle, do this, do that.
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Speaker 1: Anytime you have a lead and you lose a ball game, people are gonna, it's easy to sit back and say what you should have done and what you could have done.
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Speaker 2: But for me, I agree with you, Ocho. I'm not bragging.
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Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. They see Jameis come in, what do you think they thinking? Oh, he gonna throw the ball deep? No, he going to run quarterback sneak.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Hey, the whole point of playing, the whole point, excuse me, chat, chat, the whole point of play calling, right, Uncle Joe? Again, the game of football in general, it's a chess match between coordinators.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: You don't know what I'm calling, so I'm trying to make an estimated guess on what you might call based on down and distance in the situation and scenario that we're in. If you can see Jameis Winston coming on the field, well, hello, duh, that's giving the defense an advantage and knowing what's coming.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: The whole point is element of surprise based on the end of the game, and we're trying to get this first down so we can run the clock out. And you're telling them what you're doing by having Jameis Winston run right
on the field. Well, common sense.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Hey, why y'all think they did it, though, seriously? I mean, because I'm sitting there watching the game. I'm like, I know damn well Jameis ain't finna come out there and throw the ball. He talking about some who let the dogs out. I'm like, damn, what they got going on?
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Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, they were trying to get him to jump.
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Speaker 2: Hey, man, come on, man.
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Speaker 1: Look, I think the thing is that the game turned because I was like, man.
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Speaker 2: This is going to be one of those games.
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Speaker 1: But the game turned out to be pretty interesting, especially how it came down at the end. I thought both quarterbacks for. they show flashes. You look at JJ McCarthy, you can say, okay, I see why they traded what they traded.
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Speaker 2: Because the throws that he made, a couple of those throws, he put the ball on the money. You're like, okay, I can see that. And then you see Daniels throwing the ball.
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Speaker 1: But bro, Jaden, that second interception, Bro, first of all, Ocho and Joe, I know you watch the game of football and you study it. Ocho, they're going to play the sticks on fourth down. Every time. If you go back and look at that pick, tell me the whole way where Jayden Daniels was looking. He looked the whole way. Now the guy going to play the sticks, he going to undercut it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That's why a lot of times if you go over the top, you can have success.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Because they're playing sticks and they're going to undercut everything that you throw short. So if I'm playing the sticks, I'm staring the guy down, I definitely can't be late.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 2: That guy was in front of the damn ball. He like ran past it.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: He knew exactly what was coming.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: He knew exactly what was coming.
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Speaker 1: And the guy got, Ocho, the guy got to do a better job. Bro, you can't round that route. You got to, when you break that route out, you got.
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Speaker 3: To get back downhill. You got to come flat. You got to stay friendly to him every time.
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Speaker 1: Ooh, boy, I ain't even playing. I ain't got no dog in the fight. And my blood pressure be up.
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Speaker 2: Hey, but that's uncanny.
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Speaker 5: Of Jaden Ocho. You know, he don't typically throw picks like that. He ain't no interception guy. So to have two, them back-to-back like that, that was surprising, bro.
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Speaker 2: It was very surprising.
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Speaker 1: And normally when you have two turnovers, especially that late in the fourth quarter, you normally lose the game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. 98.9% of the time, you're losing that game. And that's why I said, Uncle Joe, for Jaden Daniels to throw interceptions that late in the game, the Giants lost that game.
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Speaker 2: What's up, baby?
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Speaker 5: Or the commander's defense won the game. Because they pinned their ears back. They got stops when they needed to, bro.
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Speaker 2: They did.
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Speaker 1: They did. And that's the measure of a good defense. You can talk about how great your defense is all you want to. Can you get stops when you got to have them?
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Speaker 3: When you got to have, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Your offense, I don't care. Oh, they averaged 33 points a game.
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Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 1: Well, you can't pick up a third down when you need it. You can't jump into your four-minute offense and keep the ball away from the opposing team. Or if you can't jump into your two-minute offense and get in field goal range and get a touchdown. What good is all these guarding stats and all the, oh, they got this, they got that. Well, when I needed it, ain't no good. You got money and the government got to freeze on your account. You can't spend it. So how would he all that? No, but look, it was two young quarterbacks. And they played well in spurts. Hey, by the way, y'all know we won our prize picks tonight.
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Speaker 3: Ooh! I told you. I told you. Huh?
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Speaker 2: Them boys went smack dead over all that.
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Speaker 3: Yo, look at that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chad, look at that. Yeah. Crash out on that.
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Speaker 3: Hey, we asked if Isaiah Leckie was going to go over 39-39 yards, right?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. He doubled that down to hell.
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Speaker 3: He doubled that quick.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. That was one of the few ones I could answer. It was a few I didn't know I had to leave it up to Hunk now.
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Speaker 1: Cam Scatterball ran the ball. And I like to offer critiques for guys. There was a play that he ran, and he came all the way.
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Speaker 2: Across the formation.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he was supposed to block or he was supposed to leak out in the flat. It was kind of hard to tell without knowing. But I would just say this. On a seven-step drop, running back, you can't cut. Because if you cut the guy, he's going to get right back up off the ground and hit your quarterback. And that's what happened. Now, he got the ball off. But you got to be careful cutting on a seven-step drop. Three steps, yeah, you want to get his hands down because the ball's coming out quick. Seven-step drop, that means you can't, hey, you got to put your face mask in his chest and you got to hold on for dear life. After that, after he cut it, I think the running back coach probably told him, Ocho and Joe, son, you can't cut on seven-step drops because every time after that, he put his face mask in the guy's chest. and he fought him for the extent of the play. So I like the correction. It might have been a self-correction, or it might have been the
running back coach giving him the heads up. So remember, we talked about we can't cut on a seven-step drop. But I thought there were some good things. There were some teachable moments in this. The two outstanding linebackers from Ohio State, 13 tackles, a tackle for loss. Alvaro Reese, 13 tackles. But they were all over the field.
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 3: Them boys special, Uncle Joe.
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Speaker 2: Them boys special.
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Speaker 3: Most of the time, when we talk about first round picks, right, and hoping, and hoping that they can transition from college to the NFL, you never know, huh? You never know. As great as they were in college, you never know if it's going to transition once they make it to the next level. But boy, them boys been everything advertised.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Everything they've been advertised, they've been just that.
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Speaker 1: Them boys got some speed. They test you well, Joe. You know what I'm saying? You look at them like your ultra said in college. And then they go to the combine and they test well. So, because I'm more of a film guy than a test guy. I just hope like when I cut on the film. And now when we go to the combine, man, he look fast on the field.
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Speaker 2: Damn, 4'3? Man, he looks explosive. The broad jump.
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Speaker 1: The vertical jump. Things of that nature lets me know that he's explosive. So now, if what I see on film and what I do when he does testing, okay, I think I got a pretty good player. But still, Ocho, it's still. Vernon Golston was another one. Look at Vernon Golston. Six foot five. Ran for six at 270 pounds.
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Speaker 2: Played outstanding. Tested outstanding. Joe, couldn't play dead in a horror movie.
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Speaker 5: Hey, you can't teach instincts, Ojo. You cannot teach that, bro. You know what I'm saying? It's either you got that or you don't. And I think that's what separates a lot of the great ones. But y'all right. Hey, that Sonny Styles kid, hey, them boys getting to the ball, man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they head-hunting. And I like it.
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Speaker 1: They young, they hungry. And look, hey, the Giants, they got some players. They got some things that you can build on.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: I would like to see them get to the ball. They probably could get to the ball a little better. Remember Ocho, Brian Burns towards ACL early in the year. So now that's the guy went to the Pro Bowl, had 14, 15 sacks last year. So normally now I put him on one side or I put R.L. Reese, sometimes I walk him up and let him rush. I would like to see Abdul Carter get to the quarterback a little bit more.
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Speaker 3: A little bit more, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Especially based on how he attacked the quarterback when he was in college.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Kayvon Fibideau.
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Speaker 3: He went down. Was he okay?
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Speaker 2: Early in his career.
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Speaker
1: But for whatever reason, Ocho, he hadn't been able to get to the quarterback like he once could.
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Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if he's injured. What has happened?
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Speaker 3: Well, I saw he went down. I think it was in the fourth quarter he went down. tonight. He had a good season last year, if I'm not mistaken. I think, if I'm not mistaken, he had double digits X.
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Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but I don't think he's had the same impact this year as of late. I don't have the numbers in front of me. But defensively, their star and the one who's been playing extremely well is Abel Reese.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. He's been playing. Look, Harlan he has a bunch of picks.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's nice.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Again, he got to beat you. Throw it late, then you throw it inside.
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Speaker 3: Hey, that's like your out route, huh? If you leave it inside, it's going the other way.
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Speaker 2: Every time.
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Speaker 3: It's the same thing with that deep ball, especially if the DB, hey Joe, if the DB is on your bottom hip, the best way to place that ball is in the bucket with a tight end that the receiver has to adjust for. If you leave it inside and you got a DB that plays the ball like Javon Holland did, all you got to do is just play the ball, look up and just catch it. Cause it's coming right to you.
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Speaker 1: And Ocho, you got to understand is that the way he's attacking the football, he's going to catch, he's going to come down with everything that gets his hands on because he, you know, when guys have those type of years, you remember Diggs, when he had that type of year, everything that he touched his hand, he came down with. Crow Martin, Crow, every time, everything. So everything, anything that touches his hands, he's going to come down with it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So you better, you better miss Diggs. or your guy got to catch it. So I'm missing outside incomplete, or my guy's going to come down with it. If I miss inside and it's in Javon Holland's window, he's going to catch that football. But I thought that last interception, I thought the guy made a great play. You know, hey, you know, he'd say, I'm trying to give my guy a chance. Maybe you want to see it, live to see another day. But I thought he tried to give his guy a chance and the guy made a heck of a play. I mean, those guys get played also. We can't always say what he didn't do. What about what the defensive guy did do? Because they meet, they get to practice, they had him sandwiched. Somebody had to be open on Joe underneath. Or somebody had a better one-on-one.
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Speaker 3: I think, oh man, I would have liked those last two plays where the Giants had the ball with Rasul Douglas. He missed the first interception and went through his hands and then came right back. They blitzed again. And J.J. McCarthy, they did the
same exact thing, trying to get the ball down the field.
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Speaker 2: To– Neighbors?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, to Malik Neighbors. I don't know. I don't know. There's really nothing you can do in that situation except just throw it up and hope your guy comes down with the ball. But, all right.
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Speaker 1: Did y'all see the first quarter when Jay Daniel hit Traylon Burks and he runs out of bounds?
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Speaker 2: And Stephon Diggs looked at him like, what the F are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Nah, I didn't see it. Stephon Diggs. He got, because he catches the ball, runs. Diggs is right here getting ready to turn up and block for him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. He turns and runs out of bounds.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. You can't say your momentum. You can't say your momentum. I'm not sure. I'm not sure what he was thinking.
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Speaker 1: But Jaden Daniels was 23 of 33, 249. The game-winning touchdown, three touchdowns, two interceptions. They ran the ball 32 times for 105 yards. Stephon Diggs, six for.
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Speaker 2: 83 on a touchdown. Antonio Williams, two for 42 on a touchdown. And Sanat.
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Speaker 5: Hey, hey, we need to clap it up for the commanders, fellas. Let's clap it up for them.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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Speaker 1: Joe, you know this is all B for naught if y'all don't handle business on Sunday, which y'all won't.
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Speaker 2: Damn. Whoa, we still talking about the Commanders and the Giants. Why you jump on that? We can't get them a hand for winning the game? Why you want to get him a hand? They won a game. Oh, so, okay. Oh, the command is three, five, and one on a Thursday night. And you excited about that? You see how I do it, Ocho?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he cheating, tripping. Hey, hold on, Joe.
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Speaker 2: What's up?
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Speaker 3: Who y'all got Sunday?
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Speaker 6: 49ers.
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Speaker 2: 49ers. We finna put it. What'd you do? What's up?
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Speaker 3: Hey, that's a good test though, Joe. I ain't going to say nothing negative. To me, that's going to be a game to watch. That's going to be a good game. They play on the West Coast or they're in Jerry's world?
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Speaker 2: It don't matter. That's an ass-whipping. Damn, Unc! You got to chill for real, bro.
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Speaker 3: That's going to be a good one, though. Oh, it's in Dallas, Joe.
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Speaker 2: It don't matter.
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Speaker 3: What about home field advantage?
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Speaker 1: Joe already told you there ain't no home field advantage in Dallas.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. All it is is just more people going home upset. Nah.
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Speaker 5: We do for one. We do for a good win. We'll mess around and pull this one out. We mess around and put BTA to San Fran while y'all playing.
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Speaker 2: Really, Joe? Yeah, don't start.
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Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, I like that. Joe, I like that attitude, Joe. I like that.
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Speaker 2: We'll mess around and put BTA to them boys now.
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Speaker 3: I'm with you, Joe. All you got to do is get three to ball.
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Speaker 2: Hey, old Joe.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a PTA. They're going to have a parent-teacher conference. Like, man, what's going on with y'all out here?
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Speaker 2: Damn. You already know what's going to happen, Joe.
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Speaker 3: Nah.
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Speaker 2: Nah. Watch this. Watch this. Watch what?
00:21:22
Speaker 3: Watch this.
00:21:23
Speaker 2: Yeah. But you mean watch what? You know what's about to happen?
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Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, I like y'all. I like y'all to make it a game, though, Joe. Offensively, y'all got that. Y'all got that. You know what the problem is. I ain't finna mention nothing like that. You know what the elephant in the room is when it comes to the Cowboys. But offensively, I think y'all can score with them. Y'all can put up points. The only issue, boy, you got to find a way. I don't know if Debo playing, but you got to find a way to stop McCaffrey, boy. They finna use him all kind of ways, boy.
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Speaker 2: I already know it. And they can't. Man, they won't. Look, here he go. I'm just saying, Joe. I'm just saying.
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Speaker 3: Hey, you got to show, you got to give him a little moral support, though.
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Speaker 2: Look, look, he a hater. He been a hater his whole life, Ocho. Oh, no. Oh, man. Two turnovers.
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Speaker 1: I thought the Giants were looking good. They hit neighbors and they fumbled that ball, Ocho. I mean, that killed some momentum because they had, oh, they was just come off that likely touchdown.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So I was like, okay. Hey, we can put some separations, some more separations.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. But that's it.
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Speaker 1: And you've got to take advantage of those opportunities when they present themselves. Because you never know. Momentum change. It seemed like the Giants had the momentum.
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Speaker 2: Yep. And all they could get was seven.
00:22:44
Speaker 1: Well, Washington, the commanders, I almost said that name, The commander's like, okay, y'all leaving us, y'all giving us life, we got something for y'all.
00:22:55
Speaker 2: We got something for you. I know that.
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Speaker 3: Diggs coming in, Diggs coming in the clutch at the right time. Still dangerous. Leave him one-on-one if you want to.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 5: Hey, he wasn't on the roster to start the season, was he? He got picked up due to some injuries.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: When McLaurin goes down.
00:23:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with D.
00:23:19
Speaker 2: Yeah. Boy, D is out there balling, boy.
00:23:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, hey, sometimes there don't be nothing wrong with you, Joe. All you need is the right opportunity, boy.
00:23:26
Speaker 2: I already know it.
00:23:27
Speaker 3: That's it.
00:23:28
Speaker 1: Look, he had a great time in
Buffalo. And, you know, kind of wide is welcome in Buffalo. He goes to Houston, tears his ACL in Houston, Ocho. Goes to New England. didn't get off on the right foot because they don't pull up with that bull jive. All that social media, on both and all that.
00:23:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, he had a good season, though. Yeah, he did. Despite all the turmoil, despite all the noise off the field, Uncle Joe, one thing about it, when it came to Diggs on the field and performing for the Patriots.
00:23:59
Speaker 2: Well, he did that.
00:24:00
Speaker 3: I think he had over 1,000. He had nine TDs.
00:24:02
Speaker 2: He did.
00:24:02
Speaker 1: He had 1,000 yards, but the problem was, Ocho, at his age, for 1,000 yards, they're not paying you $ 25, $ 30 million a year for that.
00:24:08
Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
00:24:12
Speaker 2: They're not.
00:24:13
Speaker 4: No.
00:24:14
Speaker 1: They're going to need 13, 14, 15, 100 yards out of you, double-digit touchdown.
00:24:19
Speaker 2: You're right, Ocho.
00:24:20
Speaker 1: He played really well. He was a guy that Drake made leaned on, he could count on, kind of like Jaden Daniels. When the rubber needed to meet the road, who did Jaden Daniels go to?
00:24:30
Speaker 2: Yeah. Him.
00:24:31
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, it's a few players. Let me tell you, I'm telling you, I promise you, and a lot of people count certain individuals out, there are a few players in the NFL, right, Whether they're older or younger, that, like when I say, when the rubber meet the knee of the road, and they can beat the man that's in front of them, I don't need no help. I don't care about no scheme. I don't care about no script. But Diggs is one of them. He always has been. He's a phenomenal route runner, regardless of how old he is. He can still dice your ass up. You get out there and leave him by yourself if you want to.
00:25:07
Speaker 2: That's what happened.
00:25:08
Speaker 3: When they needed it the most, he showed up. But he don't get put in those situations as often.
00:25:14
Speaker 5: Think about it, because if it weren't for all the injuries that they had. He signed August 7th, Ochoa Joe.
00:25:18
Speaker 2: What's that?
00:25:19
Speaker 1: He signed a one-year contract worth up to $ 12 million.
00:25:21
Speaker 2: He signed on August 7th.
00:25:23
Speaker 1: But then I'm trying to figure out, they needed some depth because they were down a couple of, it seemed like they were down. But look, he's from the area.
00:25:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's home.
00:25:33
Speaker 2: It made sense. I don't know why they waited until August 7th.
00:25:38
Speaker 3: Hey, hold on. See, Joe, you probably remember. Remember the show I said when Diggs wasn't with the Patriots anymore? I said there are two places he's going to go.
00:25:46
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:25:47
Speaker 3: I said the Ravens or the Commanders. And I only guessed that only because that's his backyard.
00:25:53
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:25:54
Speaker 3: It's not like I didn't know, but
I was just saying, listen, at this stage in your career, most of the time, wherever your hometown is, they'll bring you in.
00:26:03
Speaker 1: What happened to me at the end of my career? Or get as close to it as you possibly can.
00:26:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can. Matter of fact, after the Patriots, who gave me a shot?
00:26:15
Speaker 2: Damn good.
00:26:18
Speaker 3: Listen, but I'm just saying, that's how I took that estimate, that educated guess. I fucked that up, but that's neither here nor there.
00:26:28
Speaker 2: See, that's the only way I could afford you. I had to sign him. And look, now, we World A, everybody, every time I go to, man, where Ocho and Joe? Ah, dang, man. Man, where Ocho and Joe, man? You should have brought Ocho and Joe.
00:26:44
Speaker 1: Hey.
00:26:46
Speaker 5: Hey, that's because, you know what? They don't really be knowing what to say because they ask me the same thing. Like, hell, y'all out there in the car some damn where. Man, okay, Ocho where? Damn, I don't know where they at here.
00:26:57
Speaker 2: What you mean?
00:26:59
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm telling you. Man, you should have brought Ocho and Joe with you. Hey, I'm telling y'all. Y'all, I'm telling you. Hey, it's on the horizon now. I'm telling you, God don't play by this cheering.
00:27:13
Speaker 2: I already know it. I already know it.
00:27:16
Speaker 3: I give us another six months. We ain't going to be able to walk around without security now.
00:27:20
Speaker 2: I know. I'm telling you.
00:27:22
Speaker 3: Well, you think Michael Jackson was famous? Wait till we get to 2028. Huh? What's wrong with you? We not even going to be able to fly commercial no more.
00:27:32
Speaker 2: We going to have that nightcap jet?
00:27:34
Speaker 4: What?
00:27:35
Speaker 2: How many is it going to see, Ojo? 16?
00:27:37
Speaker 3: Woo!
00:27:40
Speaker 1: 16.
00:27:40
Speaker 3: We ain't playing?
00:27:41
Speaker 2: 16. Guess what?
00:27:43
Speaker 1: We ain't going to know the other 13 on there because that's going to be one of them Delta Jets, MD-80.
00:27:50
Speaker 2: We ain't going to know the other people on there.
00:27:53
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe. Now you notice throughout the years, everything I done said, And it came to fruition.
00:28:01
Speaker 2: Some of, some of, some of.
00:28:02
Speaker 3: My grandma always said there's power in the tongue.
00:28:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, facts.
00:28:06
Speaker 3: They always talk about manifesting, but sometimes people manifest without putting in the work.
00:28:11
Speaker 1: Your grandma wouldn't talk about the power that you got in your tongue. She wouldn't talk about it like that. You talk about the scripture. You talk about something entirely different.
00:28:25
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:28:27
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, watch it work now. Watch it work.
00:28:30
Speaker 2: Hey, what it do here? But also, maybe it's just me. Maybe I'm being hard. I don't know what DQ was doing.
00:28:38
Speaker 4: Bro.
00:28:39
Speaker 2: When?
You let the clock run all the way down. Man, go ahead.
00:28:43
Speaker 1: Because you see how they was kind of like rushed at the end right before they scored?
00:28:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
00:28:47
Speaker 3: Come on, man.
00:28:48
Speaker 2: You let 24 seconds run off the clock. Oh, because I don't want them. Man, come on, bro. You got to be smarter than this, DQ.
00:28:56
Speaker 4: Hey.
00:28:57
Speaker 5: If Daniels don't throw that anticipated pass right before the half, Uncle Ocho, for them to get that touchdown?
00:29:04
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:29:05
Speaker 5: Man, the game really could have been over with, for real. Hey, but you know what?
00:29:11
Speaker 1: I think also, Joe, because the guy, he looked last second like he didn't think J.D.
00:29:17
Speaker 2: Was going to throw the ball. But how, though? Throw the ball. Why wasn't he looking? He's running what we call a shallow cross. Yeah. And you see how the ball got him. He's like, damn, you knew it?
00:29:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't expect it.
00:29:30
Speaker 2: No.
00:29:33
Speaker 1: Because when you're running a shallow cross down there, you got linemen, you got offensive linemen, you got defensive linemen into all of a sudden the ball just appears.
00:29:41
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:29:42
Speaker 1: Because the best way, especially to catch a ball like that, is to try to pick it up as soon as you possibly can. If you could, but see, the problem is now you can do this, Ocho. Back then, you looking for that ball, boy, they blast hell out you. especially down there. So within five yards, you'd be looking for the ball. And all of a sudden you look it up at the sky. Am I dreaming Lord?
00:30:05
Speaker 3: Hey, and don't, don't know what happened.
00:30:08
Speaker 2: You know, Joe, Joe, I'm telling you, they get you. Now you can't do that. Don't you? They'll throw a flag if you do that. Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:30:16
Speaker 1: But, uh, The Commanders move to 3-5-1, thanks to a 24-21 victory over the Giants. Stephon Diggs catches a game-winning 32-yard touchdown with seconds left in the game, and the Giants fall. They're still atop the division at 5-3-1. But the Commanders, on a short week, go in, and they win 24-21. Before the game, Cam Scadaboo had an honest response about the Giants pursuing Jonathan Taylor and B.
00:30:48
Speaker 2: John Robinson ahead of the trade deadline.
00:30:53
Speaker 1: I would be skeptical, too, if my running back was going for 60 yards a game and not really exploding out. I'm still getting comfortable. I'm still learning how to play football in this league. I've been that guy. They know what I'm capable of. They know what I can do when I came out and I'm ready to play football. I can be one of the most dangerous backs in the league. Simple as that. Did you like the performance? Cam Scadable tonight, 18 carries, 78 yards, two touchdowns. He didn't put the ball on the ground. He ran extremely hard. Do you like it? Is this something that Cam and the Giants
can build on, guys?
00:31:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Young. Absolutely. He's not one that's going to hit his head off the goalposts, you know, but he's one that can keep the sticks moving. As long as he can protect the ball and be a value and asset that way, because he's not going to, A, Young, he's not going to. you know, run toss or run through the A gap, the B gap, and shake somebody and go 90. That's not him. But he's one that can continue to move the sticks and give you consistency at the running back position. So I think they can live with that. They can live with that. Now, at some point in line, if a player's available that can be a little different, you know, a little shiftier, you know, a little faster, or you have some type of like a thunder and lightning type combo, you know?
00:32:10
Speaker 2: Yeah. Let me know what you think.
00:32:13
Speaker 1: He reminds me more of Mike Allstar.
00:32:17
Speaker 3: Hey, that's a good one. Because Mike Allstar was nifty.
00:32:21
Speaker 1: He was nifty a little bit. he ain't going to make you miss. He's going to break tackles. He's going to keep the chain moving. He could go 35, 40, but to be Bijan, to be Jameer Gibbs or Jonathan Taylor. Now, me personally, I don't know if this is not something they might revisit in the off season. It didn't happen at the trade deadline, but maybe we revisit trying to get her back this off season because if they don't get one in the off season, they damn sure going into draft and get her back. Yeah.
00:32:49
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:32:50
Speaker 3: Hey, but hold on. Are there any running backs in the draft that are similar to that style of Jameer Gibbs or B.
00:32:56
Speaker 4: John?
00:32:57
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
00:32:58
Speaker 1: I don't... The Lacey kid, Kiwan Lacey, we've had him on a couple of times from Ole Miss.
00:33:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
00:33:05
Speaker 3: You know what you remind me? He looked like a long strider.
00:33:07
Speaker 2: He is a long strider, Ocho.
00:33:09
Speaker 3: Similar to Felix Jones a little bit. I could be wrong.
00:33:13
Speaker 1: I'm trying to... I don't know, Ocho. I really hadn't... Basically, it's quarterbacks running.
00:33:21
Speaker 3: Wide receivers. Hey, Keewon Lacey looks like he about 6'2, 6'3. I'm tripping.
00:33:27
Speaker 2: He is. Hey. Scatterboo going to get better though, Uncle Ocho.
00:33:34
Speaker 5: Y'all see, he can catch out the backfield too as far as receiving. I think he'll continue to improve as.
00:33:43
Speaker 2: The season goes on.
00:33:43
Speaker 5: Y'all got to remember now, he came into the season off of ankle surgery now.
00:33:47
Speaker 2: I feel like You know, he's the kind of guy who's going to get better as the season goes along.
00:33:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a couple of Ocho. Deshaun Bishop, Texas. Ahmad Hardy, Virginia. You got Miami, Mark Fletcher, Jaden Bauer. Yeah. So they got a few guys. I don't know if they're Jameer Gibbs and B.
00:34:16
Speaker 2: John Robinson.
00:34:17
Speaker 3: They're not those type of backs.
00:34:20
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're any of those backs.
00:34:22
Speaker 1: But I think the thing is, look, the thing that I like when a player has self-awareness and he understands.
00:34:28
Speaker 2: Man, because a lot of.
00:34:29
Speaker 1: Times, Ochoa and Joe, you know when teams look to bring a player in, man, I don't know what.
00:34:33
Speaker 2: They're bringing that player in. You know why. You know why.
00:34:38
Speaker 1: If Cam Scadabo had 800 yards like Gibbs or 700 yards like some of these other top backs, they would not even entertain it because you got Cam Scadabo on a rookie contract. Why would I need to go pick up somebody else that's making 15, $ 20 million when I got a guy, a young guy, only in his second year? I wouldn't have to. Same thing, Joe. Man, why y'all need another point guard? Because you ain't getting the job done.
00:35:03
Speaker 2: That's why. Facts.
00:35:04
Speaker 4: Facts.
00:35:05
Speaker 2: Facts. Facts. Go ahead, Joe. You want to say something? Nah.
00:35:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're going to be able to bring in a Jonathan Taylor. I know Atlanta ain't giving up B.
00:35:16
Speaker 3: John.
00:35:17
Speaker 4: No.
00:35:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:35:18
Speaker 1: Look, for me, I understand that Daniel Jones is still on that big contract. I think this will be the second year of the big contract. And I know you want to be reluctant to be able to get off of him. for the simple fact of the dead cap space that it would create. But at the end of the day, what are we trying to do here? Are we scared of the cap space or are we trying to win games? Because do you believe realistically, honestly, that Daniel Jones can lead you to where you want to go?
00:35:53
Speaker 3: Well, you saw what he was able to do last year before he got hurt, Uncle Joe. You saw that.
00:35:57
Speaker 2: I see him healthy now. What are you doing?
00:36:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also, do you really want to start over? Do you really want to start over?
00:36:05
Speaker 2: They let you know that. They started over. You trade Bump, you trade Nelson, you trade Keenan, you trade Downs.
00:36:12
Speaker 3: Okay, I got one better for you. Let Daniel Jones go and see where you're at then. It's one thing to start over. It's okay to start over when you have that foundational piece that's the most important. That's the quarterback position. Because you're not really starting over until you got that.
00:36:27
Speaker 2: Well, you know what?
00:36:29
Speaker 1: I draft a quarterback and go get Cousins. That's what I don't know about going to get cut.
00:36:34
Speaker 3: You talking about next year? Yep.
00:36:36
Speaker 2: Who are you going to get, Joe?
00:36:37
Speaker 1: Oh, you're saying draft the quarterback and let him play right away?
00:36:41
Speaker 2: I'm saying, yeah.
00:36:42
Speaker 5: I think the coach is going to draft the quarterback and probably just, you know, let him jump
off the porch.
00:36:48
Speaker 2: Okay, Ocho. You know what I mean? It ain't going to beat you. Well, listen.
00:36:51
Speaker 5: How many guys out there are you going to be able to sit your number one pick behind and let him watch? Yeah, let him but a couple guys.
00:36:59
Speaker 2: Okay, Ocho. True.
00:37:02
Speaker 1: But Mac Jones might be available. He's only on a one-year contract, Ocho and Joe.
00:37:09
Speaker 3: And San Fran?
00:37:10
Speaker 4: Huh?
00:37:11
Speaker 3: And San Fran?
00:37:12
Speaker 2: Correct. Oh, yeah.
00:37:16
Speaker 1: A guy that's been a starter, a guy that's won in this league, a guy that's taken a team to a playoff in this league. Now, the question is, who comes in the GM and how does he want to build this team?
00:37:35
Speaker 2: Who's going to coach this team. Shane Stockett ain't going to be back.
00:37:41
Speaker 1: Because you also understand, guys, the Jets got their first round pick, which is going to be a really high pick. So what you could have gotten this draft, one of these quarterbacks, you're not going to be.
00:37:55
Speaker 2: Able to get him. You're not going to be able to get him.
00:37:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at DJ numbers now. Well, you about right, boy.
00:38:06
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:38:06
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, he only got 1,700 yards, six TDs, and 10 interceptions.
00:38:10
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:38:11
Speaker 3: His QBR is 36.4. Hold on, who is this?
00:38:14
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones. Oh, yeah.
00:38:19
Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
00:38:22
Speaker 1: So, I think for the Giants, it's going to be very, very interesting when Jackson Dart comes back and he's healthy. Because you created a situation. I understand why you did what you did. I understand the Giants, why they did it, Coach O.
00:38:39
Speaker 2: Because they're like, we're.
00:38:39
Speaker 1: Sitting atop the NFC East, and we don't believe the quarterbacks that we have currently on this roster can keep us at the top of the NFC East or get us into the playoffs.
00:38:46
Speaker 2: So I get why they did it. But you created a situation.
00:38:57
Speaker 3: What do you mean? You think there's going to be some type of controversy? Quarterback controversy?
00:39:00
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart and J.J. McCarthy. J.J.
00:39:03
Speaker 1: McCarthy getting them to the playoffs. You don't think there's going to be no quarterback.
00:39:07
Speaker 3: Controversy?
00:39:07
Speaker 2: Oh, that's... Hey.
00:39:11
Speaker 5: Oh, that's... Hey, hey, hey. Especially if J.J. keeps spinning that thing the way he was spinning it tonight, boy. Yeah, he getting them into the playoffs, don't y'all? They win the division. When's the last time the Giants won the division?
00:39:24
Speaker 3: Yo, it's been a minute.
00:39:25
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:39:26
Speaker 3: It's been a minute.
00:39:27
Speaker 2: Hold on.
00:39:28
Speaker 5: Y'all don't think they're going to take a real good look at, I mean, look at the division.
00:39:33
Speaker 2: I mean,
let's keep it 100. I mean, division ain't really hitting on too much tonight.
00:39:36
Speaker 3: It's bad.
00:39:37
Speaker 2: It's bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:39:40
Speaker 1: So I keep telling you, somebody got to take the ugly girl to the dance. You want her to go by herself?
00:39:46
Speaker 3: Hey, that's me. That's me.
00:39:47
Speaker 2: Somebody got to win the division, Joe.
00:39:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.
00:39:51
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying, if you're the Giants and you win a division, okay, Ocho, you know, I mean, how much stock are you putting into that for real?
00:39:58
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question.
00:39:59
Speaker 1: If I'd have had Jackson Dart and the division of Steelcraft, how much stock would I put in it?
00:40:05
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. That's the quarterback contribution.
00:40:06
Speaker 1: The division ain't got no worse because the division didn't get any worse, Joe. What I'm trying to say, Chad, and understand me, what.
00:40:13
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say.
00:40:14
Speaker 1: Is, the division didn't get worse because Jackson Dart isn't the starting quarterback. The division was crap when he was the starting quarterback. The last time the Giants won the division, 2011.
00:40:23
Speaker 2: Damn.
00:40:24
Speaker 3: Hey, I was still playing.
00:40:30
Speaker 2: Damn. So.
00:40:33
Speaker 3: Hey, I don't think they are... Even if they go to the playoffs... Yeah. Knowing Harbaugh, knowing who a starting quarterback is, obviously he went down. Unfortunate. You know, injuries are unfortunate. I don't think they're making a quarterback controversy, though.
00:40:54
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:40:55
Speaker 3: I think what would happen if they would probably move off from Jameis, and depending on how J.J. McCarthy feels on wanting to come back and be a backup, because Jackson Dart is injury-prone, I say they might do that. But that goddamn Jackson Dart is too exciting, though, Unc. Boy, he is too excited at the quarterback position to be sitting behind anybody.
00:41:16
Speaker 2: You say Jackson Dart is injury prone. How did he get J.J. McCarthy? Is he not injury prone?
00:41:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, you right about that, boy. You right about that. And the funny thing, hey, at the rate the NFL going, who the hell ain't injury prone?
00:41:29
Speaker 2: For truth.
00:41:31
Speaker 5: It's just too much football left to really talk about that topic, that quarterback controversy, because I just feel like If young boy come out there, what's my quarterback name for the Giants?
00:41:45
Speaker 2: I mean, J.J. McCarthy.
00:41:48
Speaker 5: If he willing and dealing for the rest of the season, Uncle Ocho, and like you said, he get him to the playoffs, man, that is going to be a quarterback controversy, bro.
00:41:57
Speaker 2: Nah, how about I do it like this? Hey, I got you one better.
00:42:01
Speaker 3: I trade him.
00:42:02
Speaker 2: Trade who, J.J.? I got Jameis as a backup. Right. I trade him.
00:42:06
Speaker 1: And get the compensation that I gave up to get him. Maybe even get a higher selection back. Instead of getting a third or fourth runner back, I might get me a second.
00:42:15
Speaker 2: Hold on.
00:42:16
Speaker 3: Who are you going to trade? Jackson or J.J.? I'm trading J.J. Matter of fact, that's a good thing.
00:42:21
Speaker 2: And you know what?
00:42:21
Speaker 3: It's a good thing that he's playing well.
00:42:23
Speaker 4: Yes!
00:42:23
Speaker 3: Because the better he plays, the better the value.
00:42:27
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
00:42:28
Speaker 3: Hey, man, you could be GMs. What?
00:42:32
Speaker 2: No, you go ahead. You go right ahead. I want none.
00:42:38
Speaker 1: The Browns defensive end, Jared Burst, said he's been upset with his play this season, and he met with a team psychiatrist to help him get out of his sack slump. Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
00:42:49
Speaker 4: I've been playing well at all this season. I think after taking a little bit of time looking in the mirror, what I can do better because I think– that group goes as I go that's my mindset and anything I do obviously like I'm upset with the way I've been playing I don't think it's anything physical it was nothing wrong with my body it's nothing like that I think it was a mental aspect of the game and I think I've attacked it very well these last couple weeks but I think this past week is a big key thing that I've done that I'm very excited for this next week I think it was definitely a mental block I've trained my body every day to push myself to the limits of what I'm physically capable of doing so I don't think it was any issue with my body but I think I've taken the steps to figure out what it was after meeting with the couple of people and everything like that, but to keep it from getting further than that, I'm just gonna leave it at that.
00:43:28
Speaker 3: All right, man, I don't like, man, come on, man. What are we talking about? No disrespect to Young Bull. Obviously, they have the resources and the people, you know, when things aren't going well, that you can go and talk to, huh? That you can go and talk to. You know, when it comes to playing the game of football, there's nothing the psychiatrist can tell you, huh? Go back to the basics. Go back and look at film when you were playing well. Look what you were doing.
00:43:54
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:43:54
Speaker 3: That's all you got to do.
00:43:55
Speaker 2: Go back.
00:43:55
Speaker 3: Because, I mean, sitting there having a conversation with somebody that knows nothing what it's like to be on them trenches, that denying technique, there's nothing they can tell you. That's a you problem. Just rewind it back. Go back and see what you used to do when you were playing well. As a matter of fact, just slow everything down. Maybe you're trying too hard. Maybe you're pressing. That's all.
00:44:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pressing.
00:44:21
Speaker 1: I replaced the guy that got
23 sacks and was unanimous defensive player of the year.
00:44:24
Speaker 3: You damn right I'm pressing.
00:44:32
Speaker 2: Do you know who lined up on that side?
00:44:34
Speaker 3: You can't worry about that. You can't worry about that.
00:44:36
Speaker 1: I'm worried about it because y'all looking at me sideways because we're nine games into the season and I ain't got a damn sack. As a matter of fact, I door dash. They bring my groceries to me. I can't even go to the store and buy groceries.
00:44:47
Speaker 2: Hold on.
00:44:48
Speaker 3: You don't have one sack?
00:44:49
Speaker 2: Not one.
00:44:51
Speaker 3: I bet his pressures look good, though. You know, maybe he almost did.
00:44:54
Speaker 2: Oh, man, come on. Come on.
00:44:56
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, listen. There are other ways to impact the game outside of getting sacks. I mean, maybe.
00:45:02
Speaker 2: No, he ain't doing that. Ocho. Ocho.
00:45:04
Speaker 3: He ain't got one sack?
00:45:06
Speaker 2: He ain't got none. Ocho.
00:45:08
Speaker 1: He can't even do self-checkout, Ocho, at the grocery store. Because you got to buy your own grocery. He can't get no sacks.
00:45:15
Speaker 2: Hey, hold on. Hold on.
00:45:19
Speaker 5: Hey, oh, Joe, you ain't hear that man take accountability, bro? He say he been playing trash all year, bro.
00:45:26
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, you know what? When you're fighting with yourself up here, what, the game of football, hey, Joe, the game of football is 90% middle.
00:45:34
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:45:35
Speaker 3: It's 90% middle. So if you fighting with yourself up here, you gonna lose once you get on the field. Because in your mind, you already lost. Joe, when I go into a game, I can only speak for me. I don't know how you do. Joe, when I go into a game, I'm already envisioning me winning certain reps. I'm envisioning it before it even happens. And then I try to go out there and execute it. I read and react in case it doesn't go the way I thought it would go. I read and react on the fly. You got to improvise. That's a part of it. So as a defensive end, I don't play defensive end, so it's hard for me to talk, but I'm just saying, listen, boom, I'm going through everything in my mind based on down the distance. Boom, first play, okay, third down, I know they got a pass. Okay, I'm going to set him on the inside, then I'm going to bring him back. Okay, I'm going to rock him to the right, and I'm going to come back, and I'm going to spin. Like, Joe, you got to play it in your head. It's the game of football, the game of basketball. It's a mental game. It always has been. It's not about how fast you are.
00:46:30
Speaker 4: Huh?
00:46:31
Speaker 3: Not about how quick you are.
00:46:32
Speaker 2: Nope.
00:46:33
Speaker 3: Not about how strong you are. I got to be able to beat you up here first and then allow my special attributes to come into play.
00:46:43
Speaker 2: What transpired Sunday?
00:46:44
Speaker 1: There was a guy that's been out for like eight weeks. He came back Sunday and he had did something special. Y'all want to come and talk about it?
00:46:52
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. He was out for eight weeks. How many sacks did he have?
00:46:56
Speaker 3: Two.
00:46:57
Speaker 2: He had three. That's the guy you replaced.
00:46:59
Speaker 1: Now the guy you replaced had 23 sacks, which is the all-time lead, which is all-time record in NFL history.
00:47:05
Speaker 2: He's the anonymous defensive player.
00:47:07
Speaker 6: Of the year.
00:47:07
Speaker 2: He was out for eight weeks.
00:47:09
Speaker 3: He comes back.
00:47:11
Speaker 2: He gets three sacks. You steal none.
00:47:13
Speaker 1: According to NFL Next Gen stats, he's one of three players in the NFL who has at least 200 pass rush snaps this season but have not recorded a sack. In Versus' first two seasons, his 99 pressures trailed only Michael Parsons and Miles Garrett.
00:47:30
Speaker 2: See?
00:47:30
Speaker 3: He's getting the pressure. I told you.
00:47:34
Speaker 2: No, not this year.
00:47:35
Speaker 1: His pressure win rates have declined from his career average. His pressure win rate 3.4% out of, he's 180 out of 199 qualifying player. His address rate is 55 out of 56.
00:47:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, he that low? Lord and well, Poop. Hey, you know what it is?
00:48:00
Speaker 5: Maybe after thinking too much, Uncle Ocho, you know when you play in a game of football, well, especially basketball, You got to let your instincts take over, bro.
00:48:09
Speaker 2: That's it.
00:48:09
Speaker 3: You ain't got no time to think.
00:48:11
Speaker 2: Ain't no time to think, Joe.
00:48:13
Speaker 5: You got to re-react and let your instincts take over. And what it sounds like is that he's overthinking the damn game, man, instead of just going out there playing.
00:48:22
Speaker 2: And having fun.
00:48:23
Speaker 5: You know, the fun part gets taken out once you become a professional because it's your job, for real.
00:48:28
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
00:48:28
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
00:48:29
Speaker 5: But you got to keep that element of it in the game, Ocho. You can't look at it like, damn, I got to go to work today. You know what I mean? The opportunities that we get to play professional sports, bro, that ain't no damn job, man. You go out there and have fun with it.
00:48:44
Speaker 1: After that man slammed the Mario coins, Super Mario coins out of him.
00:48:51
Speaker 3: Hey, don't beat him up too bad. Don't beat him up too bad.
00:48:54
Speaker 2: The offensive line beat him up, beating his ass. I ain't doing nothing. Hey, Mr.
00:48:59
Speaker 3: Verse, Mr. Verse, this is the same game we've been playing all our life, boy. Just go out there and have fun. You don't have time to think. I love the steps that you're taking, trying to talk to the psychiatrist, seeing if all you got to do is clear your head, boy. As a little kid, remember back in high school, You didn't need no psychiatrist. You just went out there and had fun.
Just go back to that. Enjoy the game. Enjoy the game. Same thing when you was in L.A. Enjoy the game. Trust me. You in your own way. Thinking? You don't got time to think. Joe, you just got to go.
00:49:30
Speaker 2: Have fun. Man, listen. Go ahead, Joe. No, you go ahead, Uncle. I'm going to jump off the topic. Go ahead.
00:49:36
Speaker 1: I was going to say, Joe, in your sport, a lot of times, when great players get, when players get traded for other great players and they go, okay, you go get traded, you get traded to Milwaukee for Giannis. They just watched Giannis. He was one of the, he was one of the five best players in the NBA. What you think? But hey, I'm just going to be me. And the fans are like, well, you ain't Giannis. You get traded for another great player. No matter what the expectations are, you got to replicate or supersede what he did. Yeah. So he's coming in like, damn, Miles Garrett didn't have a Hall of Fame career in a decade.
00:50:19
Speaker 2: I'm replacing that. And he's in a contract year. Yeah.
00:50:25
Speaker 3: I love situations like this. I love situations like this when a player is not playing well, not playing well and being able to talk. Listen, when I was playing Uncle Joe, you know how bad we were? And I got one of my receivers.
00:50:39
Speaker 2: And I got to talk to him? Yeah.
00:50:42
Speaker 3: Boy, if you don't get right, what is the same game we played when we was 10, 11, 12, 13 years old?
00:50:47
Speaker 2: Facts. Facts.
00:50:48
Speaker 3: What you talking about? You feeling bad? Nigga, man, lift your head up, man, because you can't see where you're going with it down.
00:50:54
Speaker 2: Hello.
00:50:54
Speaker 6: Sorry.
00:50:55
Speaker 3: Come on, man. I don't know Jared Burson. I wish I could talk to him before the game Sunday. Come on. Get on the line. I'll be your psychiatrist. I bet you go out there and have a full five-sack date. Come on, man. What we talking about?
00:51:10
Speaker 2: He feeling that pressure. He feeling that pressure.
00:51:12
Speaker 5: Ocho, you see that man Miles Garrett just had three sacks the last couple of months.
00:51:16
Speaker 3: Joe, for one, comparison is the thief of joy.
00:51:19
Speaker 2: Well, he can't help it. I ain't having no fun. That man getting sacks and I ain't.
00:51:24
Speaker 3: Hey, but hold on. You got to understand. Listen, sometime in life you got to be real with yourself. He knew he wasn't Miles Garrett when he found out he was coming to Cleveland.
00:51:33
Speaker 2: You knew that.
00:51:34
Speaker 3: But what you can be is you can be the best version of yourself. And you're not beating yourself right now because you in your own head.
00:51:41
Speaker 1: Hey, he talking about Miles Garrett. Right now, he playing like Jason Garrett. The hell? Hey, we've all been there. We've all seen that guy with the bad girl like, whoo, boy, I do some real damage. Yeah, I'll compare what I would do compared to what he do.
00:52:05
Speaker 2: It's just natural, Ochoa. Yeah.
00:52:08
Speaker 3: I know. I need to talk to him.
00:52:11
Speaker 2: Nah, man, ain't nobody let you talk. Nah, don't talk to Ocho.
00:52:15
Speaker 3: I'm going to have that boy fired up, boy. You hear me? I'm going to have him fired up, boy. I'm telling you.
00:52:20
Speaker 5: You don't like the self-doubt, do you? You don't like the self-doubt.
00:52:25
Speaker 3: No.
00:52:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:27
Speaker 3: Listen, once it's out like this, it shouldn't even got to this point. We shouldn't know you having it. We shouldn't even know. We shouldn't know you talking to a psychiatrist.
00:52:35
Speaker 2: I ain't telling you. I ain't even having a conversation. We shouldn't know that. Nope.
00:52:39
Speaker 3: No, you want to talk to somebody, call me.
00:52:41
Speaker 2: Huh?
00:52:42
Speaker 3: Guarantee you go out there and have full sex, boy, that we talk.
00:52:45
Speaker 4: Huh?
00:52:46
Speaker 2: Hey, man. Some guys handle things a little differently, Uncle Ocho.
00:52:52
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm going to tell you the right way to handle it. At them between the white lines. Huh? Boy, you got a mortgage. Boy, you got bills. You hear me?
00:52:59
Speaker 2: He said he doesn't.
00:53:00
Speaker 3: Hey, hold on a minute. Joey, maybe you got a wife. Maybe you got a girlfriend. Boy, you got kids to feed. Psychiatrists? Man, nigga, please. Boy, we got to go play. Huh? Come off that edge. We got to get the quarterback. Because if you don't go get the quarterback, guess what? Come on, man. What are we talking about? Annie in the contract year two, Unc?
00:53:19
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:53:20
Speaker 3: Y'all got me hot. I'm mad now.
00:53:22
Speaker 1: Plus, you have to understand, he has a different level of expectation. You see, if he gets six, seven sacks, we'd have been happy. He gets six or seven sacks in Cleveland.
00:53:33
Speaker 2: Who happy?
00:53:33
Speaker 1: Because the guy you replaced had 23.
00:53:44
Speaker 2: If you get her, I give it like this here.
00:53:47
Speaker 1: You're not going to get somebody that's going to do less for you than what the woman that you got rid of.
00:53:57
Speaker 3: But also, you got a better understanding of the woman you lost though. And you're not expecting the woman that's coming in.
00:54:03
Speaker 1: But you traded her. You said, I can get comparable. What she gave me, I can get it from you.
00:54:12
Speaker 3: You said comparable?
00:54:14
Speaker 2: Oh, no.
00:54:14
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody said that. What did we do with it?
00:54:19
Speaker 1: But see, she knows she's coming in. She know what old girl did for you.
00:54:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Had your clothes out. She ate breakfast. Ocho get up.
00:54:29
Speaker 1: Ocho got coffee. Ocho got a matcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got all this ready. And come lunchtime, Ocho got some salmon. He got some wild grain rice and green beans. He got a little snack. He got his favorite cigar already sitting on
the back porch so.
00:54:47
Speaker 2: He can light up.
00:54:48
Speaker 1: He knows coming in what the old one did before he got there.
00:54:52
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. But this is what I want to do, though. I don't want to put no pressure on the new one that's coming in because I know what just went out. So what am I telling the new one coming in? Listen, I don't need you to do nothing but be yourself. I don't want you trying to do anything extra and trying to be performative to please me. Because if you can give me your best version of yourself, that's all I need if you're trying your best.
00:55:17
Speaker 1: If she did all of that and you got rid of her, what can I do to stay? If she did all of that, got your favorite cigar, maybe you wanted them Daniel Marchers. Maybe you wanted them Jose Cuevas. You know what I'm saying? Maybe you wanted a Macanudo. Maybe you wanted a Cohiba. And she already got it lit for you.
00:55:36
Speaker 3: Come on now.
00:55:37
Speaker 1: If she's doing all of this, she did all of this. Add his clothes to the dry cleaners. Make sure his reservation was on time. Make sure his hotel. He had early check-in. He had late check-out. Everything that he needed. He like aisle seat. No, my baby like a window seat. He like to sit to the back. He like three, four, five, six. He don't really like to be one, two, or three.
00:55:59
Speaker 2: He like four, five, six.
00:56:01
Speaker 1: He like a window seat. She done did all this. She still let her go. What the hell can I do?
00:56:09
Speaker 3: Hey, can I tell you why? Why? Can I tell you why I let her go?
00:56:12
Speaker 2: Why you let her go?
00:56:13
Speaker 3: Even though she checked all them boxes, Uncle Joe.
00:56:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
00:56:17
Speaker 3: She was doing everything I like.
00:56:19
Speaker 2: Huh? Yeah.
00:56:19
Speaker 3: From one to two. From A to Z. It was a beautiful thing. Yeah. But she didn't bring me no peace. And you know, I can't do nothing with that.
00:56:28
Speaker 2: Hello.
00:56:29
Speaker 3: She bring me the other peace.
00:56:30
Speaker 2: I'm good, Joe.
00:56:30
Speaker 3: I don't care how much you do.
00:56:32
Speaker 2: She bring me the other peace.
00:56:36
Speaker 1: I don't know what Ojo talking about.
00:56:42
Speaker 2: I don't know what Ojo talking about. Ojo talking some fooling.
00:56:47
Speaker 3: Hey, let me tell you something. Hey, all that's beautiful and dandy.
00:56:51
Speaker 2: You right though, Ojo. You right.
00:56:53
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, boy, in chat probably might not understand it. You know, based on experience, when you get to a certain age, it might be everything. She might be beautiful and all this. You know, it just, boy, if you ain't got no peace, boy, Joe, I ain't got time.
00:57:08
Speaker 4: I'm good.
00:57:09
Speaker 2: You got to chug the deuces, bro. You can go. I already knew it. I'm telling you.
00:57:14
Speaker 3: Hey, oh, my God. I think people don't understand, boy. I mean, I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but at this age, Joe, I can't do it. All that arguing. You know, I'm not combative no more.
00:57:28
Speaker 2: Not to come home and have to talk and talk some more? No, man, no.
00:57:32
Speaker 1: I ain't been to tongue wrestle with you all day. Talking about arguing for no reason, but you bring up the littlest thing, huh?
00:57:41
Speaker 3: Yo, I'm not combative. If you combative, if I ain't got no peace when I walk through that door and I already got to fight a war on the outside.
00:57:48
Speaker 2: You mean I got to fight another one when I come home? You right, Ocho.
00:57:51
Speaker 3: Come on, man, go on. I'm good, I'm good.
00:57:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good.
00:57:56
Speaker 1: Who you talking to? I'm talking to my homeboy. No, you wasn't. Why you got off the phone quick?
00:58:01
Speaker 2: Right. Right.
00:58:03
Speaker 3: What? What are we, 12? That's high school shit.
00:58:08
Speaker 1: That's all you do. Every time you talk to your sister. I talk to my sister about six times a day. Talk to Bucket, talk to Bucket the other six times.
00:58:19
Speaker 2: I said, man, you know what?
00:58:23
Speaker 5: You know sometimes, you know, to keep the peace, But when you try and keep the peace, Ocho, after a while, it's going to come out some way or another.
00:58:35
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So, hey, you got to be careful with that.
00:58:39
Speaker 1: The process I'm trying to keep, keeping the peace, it's only going to be so long. So long before, okay, I'm doing it.
00:58:45
Speaker 2: Okay, here you go. Here you go. Here you go. Here you go. And then pretty soon, you're like, I'm coming home.
00:58:53
Speaker 3: It's never enough. It's never enough.
00:58:57
Speaker 2: It's never enough.
00:59:01
Speaker 3: Sometimes you got to tell them, listen, if you want to work for the FBI, you need to go ahead and sign up.
00:59:06
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:59:06
Speaker 3: You want to work for the CIA, you need to go ahead and sign up. Because they ain't. That's not a prerequisite when it comes to being in a relationship.
00:59:16
Speaker 2: You right.
00:59:19
Speaker 3: Huh?
00:59:19
Speaker 2: What you looking for? They'll put a whole case on you, boy.
00:59:24
Speaker 3: Case who?
00:59:24
Speaker 5: You talking about a woman can find out some stuff, boy.
00:59:28
Speaker 3: Huh?
00:59:29
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:59:30
Speaker 3: If you ain't happy, you know where to go.
00:59:38
Speaker 4: At.
00:59:38
Speaker 3: I'll give you the code. That's why I like right now Uncle Joe, you hear me? It's peaceful. He got nothing to worry about. That's the whole thing.
00:59:56
Speaker 1: I fight a battle when I go outside. The fort's supposed to be my home. I'm supposed to be protected against a lot of things that can't get in. But if I got to fight to get out and fight to get back in, so I've got to give. So I've got to give.
01:00:19
Speaker 3: Hey, I got a question.
01:00:20
Speaker 2: What's
that?
01:00:20
Speaker 3: Well, how the hell we got on this topic?
01:00:25
Speaker 1: Uh, we've talked about, uh, uh, uh, Jared Burse and the expectations. The Broncos have sent back Deion Henley to the charges after the team discovered an issue with his knee during the physical. The Broncos initially offered a 2027 fourth rounder and a 2028 fifth rounder, but later derailed graded to only a fourth and a seventh after discovering the injury, the charges declined. Here's Jim Harbaugh calling out the NFL loophole that allows the team to bring back a player after the trade deadline.
01:00:53
Speaker 3: Hmm.
01:00:54
Speaker 6: The Broncos based a pass-fail on a medical grade based on whether we would take less compensation. And we wouldn't, and we didn't. And in my opinion, it's one of those loopholes that the league should really look into because it sets a bad precedent and continues to set a bad precedent. Medical grade should be based on pass-fail, what the medical grade is, not the.
01:01:24
Speaker 6: Not being used by an organization to get less compensation for a trade that was agreed upon.
01:01:31
Speaker 3: Hey, you got to help me out. You got to help me out explaining what happened there.
01:01:38
Speaker 2: They traded him. They traded Deion Henley.
01:01:40
Speaker 1: They said, we're going to give you a fourth round in 27, a fifth round in 28. You're going to give us Deion Henley and I think a sixth or seventh rounder right now.
01:01:49
Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
01:01:51
Speaker 1: Basically, all trades are based on passing a physical. Remember, the Baltimore Ravens, the Oakland.
01:01:58
Speaker 3: Raiders trade did not go through.
01:02:00
Speaker 1: Because Max Crosby allegedly, reportedly, failed a physical. So in this situation, our doctors take a look at it. They yank, they pull, they twist, they do an MRI, they do all that stuff, and it's like, look, he's fine now, but we see some arthritis buildup. I'm just saying, I don't know if that's the case, but we see something that could be an issue, maybe.
01:02:25
Speaker 2: Not right now, but maybe in a year.
01:02:28
Speaker 3: Down the line.
01:02:29
Speaker 1: The Broncos come back and says, okay, this is what our doctors tell us. We'd be willing to give you a fourth and a seventh as opposed to a fourth and a fifth.
01:02:39
Speaker 2: They're like, nah. They say, well, okay, we take it back. You get nothing. Hmm.
01:02:47
Speaker 3: So if he had passed the physical, then everything would have been just fine.
01:02:51
Speaker 6: Correct.
01:02:52
Speaker 3: But because they saw something, and whatever that something is, you're still willing to keep them as long as the conversation is a little bit different.
01:03:00
Speaker 6: Correct.
01:03:00
Speaker 3: We'll take them, but we're not giving you no fourth or no fifth.
01:03:04
Speaker 1: Because I want to give you, it's like a car fax.
01:03:07
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:03:07
Speaker 1: I find out the car has been dinged. I'm not going to give you your original asking price. Now, if you're willing to come down and work with me, Okay, I'll still be with it because I like the car.
01:03:18
Speaker 3: Right.
01:03:18
Speaker 1: But I just think because there's some damage or there might be something that might arise later down the road.
01:03:23
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, are you willing to work with me? Nah, this is my price and I'm firm on it. Okay.
01:03:33
Speaker 1: And that's basically how, because every trade, football, basketball, baseball, whatever the case may be, is based on pending physical.
01:03:41
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:03:42
Speaker 1: I don't want to get there and the guy got, you know, a, the guy got MCL. He doesn't, I've come to find out he ain't even got no ACL. I come to find out the man already bone on bone. He already, you know, he got a sub legs of his shoulder. He got a torn, he got a partial tear in his labrum. Nah, hell nah.
01:04:02
Speaker 3: So, so were the Broncos in need of a middle linebacker or something?
01:04:06
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I think Alex Singleton is playing really well. Singleton does, he missed a lot of tackles, but he's leading the NFL in tackles right now.
01:04:14
Speaker 3: That's the one with the long hair, right?
01:04:16
Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
01:04:17
Speaker 3: He'd be all over the place.
01:04:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's playing.
01:04:19
Speaker 1: Really well, but I don't know, maybe they wanted to add some depth.
01:04:23
Speaker 2: He is on an inspiring contract. Right.
01:04:26
Speaker 1: So, that tells me if, well, I guess they could get a compensatory draft if they were to lose it in free agency, but I get what Jim said. Look, somebody– was it the Rams? I think somebody offered them compensation for Ladd-McCronk and they turned it down.
01:04:47
Speaker 3: I would have turned it down too. I ain't letting Ladd go nowhere. Man, please.
01:04:50
Speaker 2: Y'all need more than Ladd-McCronk.
01:04:54
Speaker 3: I know Deion happy too, boy. Oh, my goodness. I ain't got to leave and, you know, pick up and go to Denver. I'm still right here at home in my backyard.
01:05:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
01:05:05
Speaker 1: But, look, at the end of the day, the man wants to get compensated because he's played really well for them. He's a guest on the show. He's really good. You know, I like Deion. I wish it could have worked out because I'd like to see him in the blue and orange, but it didn't happen. But I get what Harbaugh said because it's a very uncomfortable situation.
01:05:28
Speaker 2: Hey, Joe, your girl.
01:05:30
Speaker 1: Hey, this is not on him. They tried to trade him, and he came back. And the trade got rescinded. So now you gotta walk back in the locker room knowing they tried to get up off you.
01:05:42
Speaker 2: That's buddy for the Lakers. The shooter. Yeah, Dalton Kinnick. For the Lakers.
01:05:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dalton Kinnick. That same thing happened to him. Big boy out there in Charlotte, he failed his
physical. He in Phoenix right now.
01:05:56
Speaker 2: Robert Williams. Yeah, yeah. Nah, it wasn't Robert Williams. Is it Robert Williams? Yeah, Robert Williams. He ended up going to Portland. Nah, Mark Williams. Mark Williams. Mark Williams.
01:06:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he failed his physical, man, and they rescinded. So I know what you mean. You got to go back in that locker room, Uncle Ocho, and face coaches in the front office who done tried to get rid of you.
01:06:16
Speaker 2: Damn, now I'm right back. Come on, man.
01:06:18
Speaker 3: Hey, it's business, though, Uncle Joe.
01:06:20
Speaker 2: You know that.
01:06:21
Speaker 3: It's always business.
01:06:23
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe, you break up with your girl, and you gone for two or three months, and you try to come back.
01:06:28
Speaker 2: Whoo! Come back where?
01:06:31
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, hey, hey, hey, hey, what I'm talking about, Joe?
01:06:35
Speaker 5: Now, he just speaking hypothetically. He ain't talking to me.
01:06:39
Speaker 3: That's not a good hypothetical.
01:06:42
Speaker 2: Hey, let me tell you something.
01:06:45
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, when an owner get that money off the bus, he's not trying to go back and get it.
01:06:50
Speaker 2: No, he sure not.
01:06:51
Speaker 3: He ain't trying to go back and get it because he trying to get rid of the expensive stuff and he trying to find the cheap stuff.
01:06:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:06:58
Speaker 3: Something that's a little bit more affordable. Come on, man.
01:07:04
Speaker 1: Look, I think the thing is there's a good chance they're probably not going to sign him back. And they say we can get draft capital for him because we need the bill. Clearly, we do not have enough. You should have got rid of Khalil Mack. You're not going to the playoffs. So what you keep him back for?
01:07:17
Speaker 3: Damn.
01:07:19
Speaker 5: This contract here for Khalil Mack?
01:07:23
Speaker 2: Nah. He might have signed a one-year deal, Joe.
01:07:26
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, the likelihood of you bringing him back, and there's somebody, Chicago, there are other teams that's in the playoff contention that could have used him. And you could have used the draft compensation that you was going to get for the 2027 draft.
01:07:38
Speaker 2: Right. But, all right.
01:07:45
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you noticed, but those crowds are getting smaller and smaller because you're in L.A., you got to win.
01:07:51
Speaker 2: L.A.
01:07:51
Speaker 1: Is about winning. That's why the Lakers, they always have superstars. That's why the Dodgers spin like they spin. You don't win, they ain't coming. There's too much going on in L.A. I could be on Mill Road. I could be on Rodeo. I could be at Santa Monica.
01:08:09
Speaker 2: I could be in Memphis.
01:08:10
Speaker 1: I could be in Malibu. I could be in Nobu. I could be at a million different places. I'd be damned if I'm going to go sit in a building somewhere and watch somebody lose in as great as this weather is in Southern California.
01:08:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the Chargers got a superstar. Who?
01:08:28
Speaker 4: Huh?
01:08:29
Speaker 2: Who they superstar?
01:08:30
Speaker 3: What you mean, the quarterback?
01:08:33
Speaker 1: He done had too much beer this year. Oh, man, my bad, my bad, Joe, my bad, my.
01:08:40
Speaker 3: Bad. I mean, you making 50 million a year, but you are the superstar. Nah, I can't say that about your play, but.
01:08:47
Speaker 2: Your play warrants that, Ocho. Come on, man. Stop playing.
01:08:50
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What warrants that is your price.
01:08:53
Speaker 5: Nah, it's guys who make a lot of money, but ain't on that.
01:08:56
Speaker 2: Don't do that, bro. Don't do that. Don't do that.
01:09:00
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe. He make 50 a year.
01:09:04
Speaker 2: 55. They ain't want.
01:09:07
Speaker 3: Oh, my bad, my bad. Joe, he make 55 a year.
01:09:10
Speaker 2: They ain't want to get. Ain't they 0 for up? 0 for.
01:09:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, they 0 for, boy.
01:09:14
Speaker 2: They ain't want to. Come on, man. Yeah, you're right. You're right.
01:09:17
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. I don't make the rules. I'm just telling you. The only people that make that kind of money is the superstars. I'm talking about he done had too much beer.
01:09:34
Speaker 1: Hey, a lot of people ain't going to pick that up, Ocho. They're going to get it in the morning, though. I would say Ocho said that. Ocho sent me a text, y'all. Ocho said that.
01:09:46
Speaker 3: That's a good one.
01:09:47
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it.
01:09:48
Speaker 3: I'll take that one.