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They never learn to die Names buried in the silence
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Still calling from the night Down a road where
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the cold wind moans Past the places nobody goes
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Every secret leaves a mark Every shadow knows
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the dark The evidence fades The questions remain
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and somewhere in the dark The story is still
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calling your name Monstrous Every shadow has
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a name. This is Monstrous. Monstrous covers true
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crime, violence, and other unsettling subject
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matter. Listener discretion is advised. Hey y
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'all, I'm Carrie. I'm Momo. And welcome back.
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is another spooky bonus. You get used to it living
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with her. Okay, so for this one, we're going
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to head into the mountains of West Virginia for
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a story that has survived for more than a century.
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It's a story about a newlywed, a suspicious husband,
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a mother who refused to accept an easy explanation,
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a grave that had to be opened, and depending
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on what you believe, a woman who came back from
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the dead to name her own killer. This is the
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story of Elva Zona Hester Sue. Most people simply
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called her Zona. So her husband was Edward Sterbling
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Sue, though he was widely known by the nickname
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of Trout. Nothing like having the nickname of
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Fish. And I feel like that says a lot about who
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he was. And according to one of America's most
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famous ghost legends, Zona did not remain silent
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after she died. In fact, she came back and she
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appeared to her mother. She told her that Trout
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had murdered her. And when authorities finally
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looked again, they found evidence that something
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violent had in fact happened to her. This is
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the story of the Greenbrier Ghost. This one takes
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us to Greenbrier County, West Virginia in the
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winter of 1897. At that time, Greenbrier County
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was rural, close -knit and shaped by mountain
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roads, farms, churches. small communities, and
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families who often knew more about their neighbors
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than their neighbors realized. In a place like
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this, a sudden death does not stay private for
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long. People talked, they watched, they noticed
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who was grieving, they noticed who was avoiding
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questions, and they noticed when something did
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not feel quite right. Zona Hester, I think that's
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how you say it. I could be mispronouncing it.
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I'm sorry if I am. Had already experienced hardship
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before she married Edward Shue. Her first marriage
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had ended badly. and she'd returned home to live
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with her mother, Mary Jane Hester. She had also
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given birth to a son in November of 1895 before
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her marriage to Trout, who is Edward. Okay, we're
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going to go back and forth between those two
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names. I'm sorry. Now, later, Zona had met Trout.
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Some versions of this story describe him as a
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stranger who drifted into Greenbrier County from
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somewhere else. But the truth is a little more
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complicated than that. His family did, in fact,
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have ties to the region, including a homestead
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near Droop Mountain along the border of Greenbrier
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and Pocahontas counties. He had lived and married
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locally before, and he was not simply an unknown
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man who appeared out of nowhere. But after Zona's
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death, people began looking closely at his past.
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So Trout had been married twice before he married
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Zona. His first marriage to Allie E. Cutlip ended
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in divorce. His second wife, Lucy Ann Tritt,
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died suddenly in 1895. There's no confirmed record
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explaining exactly how Lucy Ann died, and there's
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no proof that Trout had actually harmed her.
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However, after Zona's death, rumors spread that
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he might have also been responsible, or that
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he might have been responsible. So it is important
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to say this clearly. Rumors are not evidence.
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Lucy Ann's death was never legally connected
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to Trout's shoe. Still, people remembered it.
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and it shaped the way that many in the community
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looked at him after Zona's
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death became suspicious.
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One part of Trout's past that is documented is
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that he had been convicted of stealing a horse
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and had served time in prison. He was the horse
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thief? Yep. He would later admit that during
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his own murder trial. So on October 21st, 1896,
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Zona and Trout were married. Their marriage would
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last a little over three months. Then... Zona
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was dead. Now, the exact date of her death is
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unclear, but her official death record lists
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January 23rd, 1897. Now, some contemporary newspaper
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accounts say that she had actually died on January
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24th, but in the official records, it's the 23rd.
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So it just kind of depends on the record and
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which one you read, really. So Zona died either
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on a Saturday or a Sunday in late January 1897.
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So that might sound like a small difference,
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but it tells us something important. From the
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beginning, the official story of Zona's death
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was confused, incomplete, and inconsistent. Now,
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on the day that Zona was found, a young black
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neighbor named Anderson Jones, usually called
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Andy, was sent to the Shue home. Accounts say
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that Trout had asked Andy more than once to stop
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by the house. In some versions, Andy was supposed
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to collect eggs. In others, he had been told
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to see whether Mrs. Shue needed anything. Now,
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when Andy arrived, the house was quiet, a little
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too quiet. He called out for Zona, but there
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was no answer. In a later retelling of the case,
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Andy described seeing something else before he
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had found her. A trail of blood that appeared
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to lead from the steps and across the house toward
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the room where Zona was found lying. That detail
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does not appear consistently across all surviving
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accounts. So can't really count it as a certain
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detail, but it is in there. Now, according to
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the version attributed to Andy, it was the first
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sign that something inside the shoe home was
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terribly wrong. So he went inside looking for
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Zona. and he found her. Now, most accounts place
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her body at the bottom of the stairs. She was
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motionless, and she was dead. In the days and
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years to come, people would question whether
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the position of her body had been staged. Andy
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then ran from the house, and he told his mother,
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Martha Jones, and the word spread quickly. People
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came to the shoe home, and Trout's shoe was there.
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Witnesses later described him as deeply emotional,
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but strange in the way that he acted around Zona's
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body. He reportedly held her head close to him.
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He did not want others to touch her. He made
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it difficult for people to get near her. And
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when the doctor arrived, Trout's behavior reportedly
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made it harder for a proper examination to take
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place. Okay, now to play devil's advocate here,
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there's two things. He could have either been
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distraught because it's his wife. You know what
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I mean? Yes. He could be holding her just like
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in emotional distress, like a lot of people would.
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Or he could be trying to keep the onlookers.
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Looking too close. Looking too close and seeing
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something suspicious. It could be either one.
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So we got to account for both. Now, Dr. George
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Knapp was called to the home. But by the time
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he arrived, Trout had already changed Zona's
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clothes. Let you ponder on that for a minute.
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Kind of hard to think of a positive side of that
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one. The man was weird. Now, later accounts said
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that he had dressed her in a high -collared garment
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and placed cloth around her neck. He reportedly
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objected when Dr. Knapp attempted to examine
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Zona's throat and neck. Some retellings say that
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Dr. Knapp had been treating Zona for an illness
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in the weeks before her death, but there are
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no surviving medical records that have been found
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to confirm that without a doubt. Now, this may
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explain why illness was initially considered
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to be her cause of death, or it may just be another
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detail that grew as the story was passed down.
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What is clear, though, is that the examination
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was incomplete. The cause of death had been reported
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differently in different versions of the story.
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Some accounts say that Dr. Knapp believed Zona
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died of heart disease, while others say that
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he used the phrase, quote, everlasting faint,
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which was an old -fashioned term for sudden and
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unexplained collapse. But the official Greenbrier
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County death record lists another cause, childbirth,
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which is odd, because if she died in childbirth,
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where's the child? What's that look for? I'm
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just listening. Now, this explanation does not
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fit in the known timeline because Zona had given
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birth to her son, the only child that we're aware
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of, in November of 1895, nearly an entire year
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before she ever married Trout. The death record
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didn't even clearly list her name. It identified
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her only as Mrs. Shue. It also did not contain
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Dr. Knapp's signature or his medical note. So
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before anyone ever spoke of a ghost, the official
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account of Zona's death was already deeply flawed.
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A woman had been found dead. Her husband had
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reportedly interfered with the examination. Her
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neck had not been properly inspected. And the
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death record offered an explanation that didn't
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make any sense. But still, nobody officially
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called it murder. So Zona was buried. Zona's
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funeral did not ease Mary Jane Hester's fears.
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In fact, it made them worse. So like I said before,
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Mary Jane was Zona's mother. She had some concerns
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about Trout. And she apparently had some doubts
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about their marriage. And after watching him
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at the funeral, she began to believe that something
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terrible had happened to her daughter. According
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to later accounts, Trout would not allow people
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to get too close to Zona's head or neck during
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the viewing. He had reportedly placed a pillow
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inside the coffin. He covered Zona's face with
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a veil. And, uh, did that? He kept a scarf or
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some kind of cloth around her neck, and he stayed
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very close to her body as though he was guarding
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her. Some people later said that Zona's neck
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looked unnaturally loose or even wobbly, as though
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it needed to be supported. Others remembered
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a bruise appearing across her cheek. These details
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were repeated after Trout became a suspect, so
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they need to be treated with caution as we talk
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about this. And they also help explain why Mary
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Jane and others around her felt that something
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about Zona's death had been missed. Mary Jane
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did not believe that her daughter had died naturally.
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And according to Mary Jane, Zona came to her.
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Mary later said that Zona appeared to her at
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night, not once, not as a passing shadow, and
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not as a dream that she would forget by morning.
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Mary Jane claimed that Zona visited her on four
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consecutive nights. She said her daughter appeared
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in her bedroom and that she spoke to her. She
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said that Zona told her she had been murdered.
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According to Mary Jane's account, Trout became
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angry because Zona had not prepared meat for
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supper. An argument began. That argument became
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violent and Trout attacked her. Mary Jane said
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that Zona told her that Trout had broke her neck.
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The most famous part of the legend is what comes
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next. Mary Jane said Zona's spirit turned her
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head completely around, demonstrating the injury
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to her mother. This is one of the most chilling
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images in Appalachian ghost lore. A grieving
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mother sits awake in her bedroom. Her dead daughter
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appears, and her ghost tells her that the man
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who should have loved her is the man that killed
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her. Mary Jane said Zona told her more than just
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how she died. She claimed her daughter described
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the shoe home and the land around it in detail,
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even though Mary Jane had never visited the property
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before. Zona also allegedly directed Mary Jane
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to search specific places, including an area
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near a fence and rocky section of land, as well
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as behind a loose plank in the cellar. and a
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search was reportedly made, but nothing was found.
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Now, that does not prove Mary Jane's story was
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false, but it is important to remember that even
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within this ghost story, not every alleged clue
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led to physical evidence. And when the defense
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later suggested that Mary Jane had only dreamed
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about Zona, she rejected this completely. She
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said that she had been wide awake, that she had
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prayed for Zona to return and tell her what happened.
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And when she was pressured to call the four visits
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dreams, she reportedly answered, quote, If I'm
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going to say that, I am going to lie. There is
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no way to prove that a ghost did appear in Mary
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Jane's bedroom. There's no scientific test for
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visitation, no recording, no photograph, and
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no independent witness standing in that room.
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There's only Mary Jane's story, but she believed
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it, and she acted on it. She went to local prosecutor
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John Alfred Preston. She told him that Zona had
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appeared to her, and she said Zona told her Trout
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killed her, and she begged the authorities. to
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look again. A ghost story alone could not convict
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someone, but Mary Jane's concerns existed alongside
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some other troubling facts, like the fact that
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the examination was incomplete, the death record
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was contradictory, witnesses had concerns about
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Trout's behavior around Zona's body, and Mary
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Jane's determination helped trigger renewed attention
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to this case, and so authorities agreed to exhume
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Zona's body. On February 22nd, 1897, Zona's body
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was removed from her grave. Her remains were
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taken to a local schoolhouse. Of all fucking
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places. Well, back then, they didn't really have
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morgues, honey. You know what I mean? Of all
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places, you could pick a school. It's just like,
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I love it. I love it so much. That would be awesome.
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What did you find on your desk today? Oh, I found
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a femur. That's great. Dr. Knapp, alongside other
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doctors, conducted a post -mortem examination.
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And this time, the examination was thorough.
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and no one was there to keep them away from Zona's
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neck. This time around, they found evidence of
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violence. Her neck was probably broken. Zona's
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neck was in fact either broken or dislocated.
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Ow. Her windpipe was crushed, and reports described
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serious damage to the ligaments in her neck.
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Some accounts described an injury involving the
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first and second cervical vertebrae high inside
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her neck. Other descriptions indicated marks
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believed to be consistent with strangulation.
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Her having those damaged ligaments and it being
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broken and her windpipe crushed, that would have
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given her ghost the ability to completely turn
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her neck around because there's no ligaments
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holding it in place. Ow. And Zona's ghost told
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her mother that her neck had been broken. Isn't
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that wild? Ow. What do you think? Anything's
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possible. You think it's mother's intuition or
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Zona's ghost really did come back to her? I believe
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the ghost did come back. is a wild isn't it the
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post -mortem findings strongly supported the
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conclusion that zona had died violently but it
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is important to be precise the autopsy supported
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the core accusation that zona had in fact been
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murdered it did not completely verify every day
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every detail of the ghost story exactly as later
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retellings told it but it did back up the ghosts
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saying she was killed the reported medical findings
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were more specific and more complicated than
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the legend alone a damaged neck Torn ligaments,
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a crushed windpipe, and signs consistent with
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strangulation. Whatever happened to Zona, it
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was not an everlasting thing. It was not an ordinary
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natural death. And it was definitely not childbirth.
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After this autopsy, the case changed completely.
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Edward Trout Shue was arrested. Zona's death
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was now being treated as a murder. And the story
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of the Greenbrier ghost had moved from a grieving
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mother's bedroom into the criminal justice system.
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Now, while trial waited in the Greenbrier County
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Jail for a trial, a newspaper report in May of
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1897 claimed that he had threatened suicide.
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Now, whether that was a genuine attempt, a threat,
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or simply a jailhouse rumor, that's unclear.
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But it did add another layer of drama to an already
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sensational case. Now, the murder trial began
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in Greenbrier County in June of 1897. The case
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was heard in Greenbrier County Circuit Court
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before Judge J .M. McWhorter. Prosecuting attorney
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John Alford Preston led this state's case, assisted
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by Henry Gilmer. Child was defended by Dr. William
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Rucker and James P .D. Gardner. Gardner was later
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reported to have been the first black lawyer
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to practice in Greenbrier County Court. How cool
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is that? That is cool. The trial drew major attention,
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as you could only imagine. A newlywed had died
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suddenly. Her death had first been treated as
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natural. Her body later examined. Doctors found
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fatal neck injuries, and the victim's mother
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said that the victim herself had returned from
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the grave to identify her killer. That is the
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part that people remember. Right. But here's
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the important distinction. Zona didn't testify
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in court. A ghost didn't appear on the witness
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stand. What? That's just funny. The way it was
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said. The court did not formally accept paranormal
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evidence as proof that the dead could speak.
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Instead, Mary Jane testified about what she said
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she experienced. She told the court about her
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daughter's appearance. She said Zona told her
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that Trout had broke her neck. The defense questioned
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her about those visions, likely hoping that the
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jury would see her as a mother who was overcome
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by grief, sucked into superstition, or even just
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drugged down by emotion. But Mary Jane didn't
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back down. She said she'd been wide awake. She
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said the visits had been real. And she said that
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her daughter had told her the truth. The ghost
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story made this trial unforgettable, but the
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prosecution's case didn't rest on a ghost. The
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evidence against Trout was circumstantial. It
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included the suspicious and inconsistent handling
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of Zona's death, the incomplete first examination,
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the injuries found after her exhumation, the
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damaged neck, her crushed windpipe, the testimony
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about Trout's behavior, and the questions surrounding
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what happened inside the shoe home. Trout took
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the stand in his own defense. Contemporary newspaper
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reporting described him as speaking at length
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and focusing heavily on small, unimportant details.
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He denied killing Zona. He claimed that the prosecution
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was motivated by spite. He insisted that he loved
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his wife. He admitted that he had served time
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in prison for horse theft, and he reportedly
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asked the jurors to look into his face and decide
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whether he looked like a guilty man. Newspaper
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coverage suggested that his testimony did not
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make a favorable impression on the people who
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heard it. The jury had the evidence. They heard
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Mary Jane's account, the medical findings, They
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heard Trout deny killing Zona, then they deliberated
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for only one hour and ten minutes. On July 1,
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1897, the jury returned with its verdict. Edward
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Trout Shue was found guilty of first -degree
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murder. He was sentenced to life in the West
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Virginia State Penitentiary at Moundsville. For
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some people in Breyer County, a life sentence
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was too much. After the conviction, a lynch mob
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reportedly formed. They intended to take Trout
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from the county jail and hang him. Accounts say
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that they arrived armed with Winchester rifles,
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revolvers, and a new rope. Sheriff Nickel and
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George Hurrah confronted the crowd. The sheriff
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persuaded them to disband, but by then, Deputy
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Sheriff John G. Dyer had already moved Trout
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somewhere safe outside of Lewisburg. The mob
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had arrived too late. That jail cell was already
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empty. Now, Trout was eventually transferred
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to the West Virginia State Penitentiary in Moundsville,
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and he would die there in the late spring of
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1900, reportedly during a per - tuberculosis
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outbreak. He had served less than three years
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of his life sentence. Now before we close out,
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it is important to say this clearly. The surviving
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historical record of the Greenbrier ghost case
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is incomplete. Some original documents are missing.
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Newspaper accounts conflict with one another.
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Many details have been repeated, embellished,
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and reshaped for more than a century. So when
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we tell this story, we have to separate what
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is documented from what belongs to legend. What
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we can say with confidence is this. Elvazona
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Hester Shue died after only a few months of marriage.
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Her death was initially treated as natural. Her
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body was later exhumed, and medical examiners
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found fatal neck injuries. Her husband, Edward
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Trout Shue, was then convicted of first -degree
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murder. Everything beyond that exists in a space
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between history and haunting. The blood trail,
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the ghost message, the exact motive, or not,
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the four -night visitation. the ghost turning
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its head, whether Zona truly appeared to Mary
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Jane. Those details could be history. They could
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be fact. They may just be folklore. They could
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be grief transformed into something powerful
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enough to make people listen. So did a ghost
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help convict a murderer? Maybe. Did a ghost testify
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in court? Definitely not. Did the court accept
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the paranormal evidence as legal proof? Of course
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not. Was Trout convicted only because Mary Jane
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said Zona appeared to her? No. The conviction
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rested on circumstantial and medical evidence,
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especially the injuries discovered after Zona's
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body had been exhumed. But did Mary Jane's story
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help change the course of this investigation?
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Most definitely. She refused to accept the official
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explanation. She demanded that authorities take
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another look. She insisted that Zona's death
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could not be explained away. And after the grave
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was opened, doctors found evidence that a violent
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death had, in fact, been missed. So maybe Mary
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Jane truly did see her daughter. Maybe Zona's
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spirit really did come home and tell her mother
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what happened. Maybe grief, fear, suspicion,
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and a mother's instinct came to Mary Jane in
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her dreams. Maybe she noticed things that others
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ignored. The scar from around Zona's neck, Trout's
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strange behavior, the inadequate medical examination,
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the impossible explanation written on the death
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record. Whatever Mary Jane experienced, she did
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something that changed everything. She refused
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to let her daughter's death disappear into a
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grave without answers. Today, Zona Hester Shue
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was buried near Stan Black Church in Greenbrier
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County, West Virginia. A West Virginia historical
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marker commemorates the case and describes it
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as the only known case in which testimony from
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a ghost helped convict a murderer. That is commemorative
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language, not a statement that a ghost formally
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testified in court. But it captures why this
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case has endured for so long. The Greenbrier
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ghost is not only a ghost story. It's a warning
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about what can happen when a suspicious death
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is not properly investigated. It's a story about
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the limitations of early forensic medicine. It's
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a story
about how difficult it could be for a
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grieving woman in 1897 to make authorities listen.
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And it's a story about a truth that refused to
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stay buried. So whether you believe Zona Hester
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Sue returned from the grave or not, there is
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one thing you can believe for certain. Her death
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was nearly dismissed. Her body was nearly left
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in the ground. And without Mary Jane's refusal
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to accept an easy answer, Edward Trout's shoe
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may never have been held accountable. So if you
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ever find yourself driving through Greenbrier
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County, surrounded by mountain roads, old cemeteries,
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and the deep quiet of West Virginia, remember
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Zona. Remember the mother who would not stop
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asking questions. And remember that some truth
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refused to stay buried. And that's the Greenbrier
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ghost. What do you think about that one? That
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was wild. Have you ever heard of that one before?
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Uh -huh. It was pretty cool, wasn't it? It was.
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Like to imagine a ghost, like... she came back
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and told her mom that she did not die of natural
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causes. How wild would that be? Okay, so, right.
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So I have a picture of the historical marker,
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right? Okay, so it says Greenbrier Ghost. Interred
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in nearby cemetery is Zona Hester's shoe. Her
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death in 1897 was presumed natural until her
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spirit appeared to her mother to describe how
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she was killed by her husband, Edward. Autopsy
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on the exhumed body verified the apparitions
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account. Edward, found guilty of murder, was
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sentenced to the state prison. Only known case
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in which testimony from ghosts helped convict
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a murderer. How wild is that? That is wild. Yeah,
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I thought that was a fun one. Like, it's sad,
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obviously, but I thought it was a fun, like...
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Fun little ditty. Right, like, it's not really
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lighthearted, but it's not, like, the gory...
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Stuff we're used to. True crime stuff that we
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normally do, yeah. A little bit lighter than
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normal. Yep, that's your bonus. Yay! Yay! I'm
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excited for the next bonus. That one's a good
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one. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You got anything
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to end this one? Nothing? Nope. All right. With
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that, guys, make sure you come back for the next
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y 'all keep listening. And remember to. Watch
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out for monsters. Don't kill people. And we'll
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catch y 'all next time. Bye y 'all. Bye y 'all.
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There are stories in the dark. That never learn
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to die. Names buried in the silence Still calling
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from the night Down a road where the cold wind
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moans Past the places nobody goes Every secret
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leaves a mark Every shadow knows the dark Hear
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the footsteps count to three Something's waiting
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patiently Monstrous Monstrous Where the truth
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wears someone else's face From the graveyard
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to the crime scene From the legend to the scream
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If you listen close enough You'll hear the monstrous
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things Photographs and a crooked smile Missing
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pieces mile by mile A locked door and a midnight
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call A whispered name behind the wall The evidence
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fades The questions remain And somewhere in the
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dark The story is still calling your name their
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trace Monstrous Where the truth wears someone
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else's face Murders, mysteries, secrets untold
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Hauntings hiding in the cold If you listen close
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enough Every shadow has a name This is monstrous