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Inside the Birds is back. What's
going on everybody? Jeff Mosher and Adam
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Kaplan and man oh Man. The
NFL drafts right around the corner. In
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fact, we can officially say it
is next Thursday night, starting with the
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first round eight o'clock and Adam,
we're gonna have a lot of coverage of
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the draft next week, especially,
we're gonna have our normal podcast both on
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Monday, our Thursday morning pod.
We will have even more like the last
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bit of empty the notebook type stuff
for everything we're gonna also do for Thursday.
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It'll come out Thursday NFL Draft preview
show, and then we'll do intel
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on the picks when they get come
out Thursday night when they pick. Andrew
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de Cheko will be involved, and
you know people are who are new to
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our platform, we'll see we do
kind of a comprehensive intel immediate stuff streams
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all throughout the draft, and people
who are familiar with us know how much
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we put into it. So I
really look forward to next week. But
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we spent a lot of time so
far going through potential picks there at the
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first round, and we'll continue to
do that with the Eagle slated to pick
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twenty second overall. But we thought
for this particular podcast, let's be a
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little bit more informative, give a
little bit more intel on what might happen
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after the first round, because Eagles
obviously have two second round picks. And
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Howie Roseman, as you heard ad
him, he said he loves to make
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trades at this time. I know, you know, this is this is
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what you're seven doing. This are
with our company and these shows six or
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seven. Yeah, yeah, how
he ruins it when he trades out.
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And obviously the A. J.
Brown trade boy, that was a smart
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one that worked out pretty well.
That was worth giving up a one and
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a three. But sometimes we think
we have it now and they trade up
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or trade down, like screw it. You know we met, you know,
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we got screwed. So and how
he got super excited. How many
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times did he say he'd love to
make trades? Three times? That and
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that press converence this week, it
was almost like a sordid infatuation with it,
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the way he joked about Yeah,
he's like, yeah, I like
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to make sure you know, his
eyes got really wise. I know he
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loves action and we get it,
we understand. But anyway, yeah,
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so one week from today. It's
Thursday, Thursday night. Yeah, next
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Thursday night. And in fact,
what we'll do is that that show that
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drops Thursday morning, six am Eastern. We only just stepped the notebook.
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We we go here the players we've
heard you should put lays to the king
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on we'll see what happens, because
his clubs have tautus over the years.
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The players they like, when something
happens before them, they go elsewhere.
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This happened big time in twenty fourteen
when the Eagles said there are five players
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they want, really wanted. The
board got blown up and that's when they
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took Marcus Smith. That's right when
we went down that that memory lane.
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Last podcast. You should listen to
it if you haven't had a chance to
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yet. A couple of other things
you should listen to, But first I
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want to tell you Inside the Birds
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hope everyone who just loves the draft, or who loves the Eagles, or
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who loves their NFL teams and understands
that seventy five percent of fifty three man
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rosters are made up of guys who
are drafted in the second, third,
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fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, and rookie free agents. Everybody who's
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into that should listen to the interviews
that Andrew Ducheco has been doing. It's
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called Draft Dreams. It's on our
podcast and YouTube platforms. He's done it
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with about By the time people listen
to this, I think there'll be ten
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ten interviews in total up and maybe
two more left to go with a variety
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of big school, small school prospects
and some that are going to be drafted
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Day two, some day three,
some will be rookie free agent pickups.
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All will be in a camp,
We're fairly positive of that, and all
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will have a chance to recognize their
dreams. And Andrew has done so many
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this year, Adam, that I'm
convinced that the Eagles are gonna
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with one of these guys because he's
done so many, and many of them
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are guys that he knows that the
Ego have talked to and are he He
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specifically also chose guys at positions the
Eagles would be looking at, like corner
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and safety and linebacker and the wide
receiver. That's awesome man. In fact,
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it's on not just YouTube what you
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night will have them with us,
I believe, so that'll be great.
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Yep. And we and then the
big one drops are one round. We
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only do one round. We do
the entire thirty two picks where the three
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of us go back and forth.
We make our picks. We give you
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the reasons why. Also we'll do
the Eagles then, and I will give
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you the intel and what specifically on
the teams that we really know pretty well.
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We'll go, Okay, here's what
they're thinking going into it. So
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if you're not just a we know
that not all Eagles fans listen. There
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are Cowboys fans listening, Commandos fans, Jants fans. So we'll give you
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what do we know in those teams
as well. Yeah, that's our annual
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Inside the Birds first round NFL mock
draft that will come out Monday, featuring
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myself, Adam and Andrew de Checo. Always look forward to that. Always
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one of our most listened to podcasts
every year. As far as other things
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that you should catch and listen to
on our Patreon platform, Adam last night
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entertained on the Discord channel answering a
lot of questions, dropping a lot of
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intel. A lot of people want
to know about the NFL Draft, and
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Adam had a lot of good stuff
on the Discord channel for our Patreon members.
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And then of course on Wednesday,
the night before the first round of
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the draft, we'll do our final
NFL Draft ask ITV live stream with our
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Patreon members, where we'll again have
a chance to drop a lot of early
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intel for those who subscribe. That's
patreon dot com slash Inside the Birds to
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get that great content. All right, A couple of things before we get
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into you know, day two and
day three, guys, Adam, a
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big, big extension that we said
was coming ever since I don't know the
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start of the offseason finally happened.
Eagles agreed to an extension with DeVante Smith,
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which it's been an offseason of a
lot of extensions from Smith to Landon
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Dickerson, all three of the special
teams guys on the on the on the
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field goal right, the kicker,
of the punter, and the long snapper.
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This has been a bit. This
is an underrated but essential part of
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quote unquote free agency, retaining your
own and Adam. When you look at
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the wide receivers that are up for
extensions in the next twelve to sixteen months,
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this deal that the Eagle signed Smith
to will probably look very team friendly
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at about six to twelve to eighteen
months. Yeah, and it also helps
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a guy like t Higgins because see
here T Higgins is exactly like DeVante Smith
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and devaanty better football player. But
he's one A to Jamar Chase's one,
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where Davante is a high end one
A to aj Brown who's there one?
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So now you know three years,
seventy five million. We haven't got the
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breakdown yet, but they now any
team knows for a high end number two
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really one A. You now know
what the money is now with with you
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know, with Jamar Chase, he's
looking for thirty million a year, if
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not more, Him and Justin Jefferson
are gonna want a minimum of thirty.
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They're gonna want to me. They're
gonna want to be Tyreek Hill still thirty
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million a season. So that's that. Yeah, we knew this was coming.
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It was no secret because with the
I don't understand this. I'll never
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understand this. Why the Cowboys bleeping
weight so long is beyond me. It's
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stupid. It's bad business. You
get such a discount when you get deals
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done early, right. I don't
understand why teams don't
copy this, right
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because think about if let's say the
Cowboys didn't wait, Let's say they had
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already signed CD Lamb to something in
that twenty five to already million range,
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and let's say all you guys signed, then the Eagles are now looking at
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DeVante Smith and have to pay him
somewhere in the neighborhood that those guys are
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making, maybe not as much as
a CD, but right in that category.
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So it saves them down the long
world. As long as you ident
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look, there's risk involved. We
saw it. It happens. You know.
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Carson Wentz is one example. There
are others, but if you look
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at most of the Eagles extensions,
especially for first rounders. They usually turn
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out to be guys who are consequentially
important and see it through that most of
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that second contract, and it saves
them a lot of money. Yeah,
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I would have to go through.
We're not talking about extensions for veterans like
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Alshon Jeffrey with the last one missed
that was a miss, but just talking
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about the guys they drafted, their
hit list, their hit rate is significantly
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strong on getting them right. This
is what you're alluding to doing these early
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Joe Banner was telling us that before
that you always get them right, like
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you you know, back then when
Joe started doing them, remember it's called
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the Joe bannerol was just two years
and then agents and players complain, so
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the NFLPA and there in a later
in a later deal with the owners,
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that was the thing. They changed
it from two years to three years for
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drafted players. But they have a
good hit rate on extending players. They
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just do. And you know why, because you should know after three years
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whether you want to extend the player
or not. You know, you shouldn't
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need any more. You should you
should know whether it's not gonna work where
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the guy's gonna be a bust or
its it clearly doesn't look right, or
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when you know you nailed it,
and DeVante Smith Chiefs the first day of
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practice and training camp, they nailed
it. I mean Bill Pollion told us
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so, there's sometimes when you whole
fame general manager, you just you know
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it when you're around the player very
early, and DeVante Smith was one of
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those rare players, those first round
picks where you're around him you go,
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oh wow, I think we got
this rate and it's only for a couple
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of weeks. Yeah, they kind
of know it when they got it.
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And what a football player. Yeah, he checks all the boxes. He'd
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be one of the very if you
give me, like, name some guys
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you'd be shocked if they just fell
off the face of the earth and did
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not get better or replicate their season. He would be among my top five
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guys. I just he's had it
all ever since he was in high school
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and college and has performed at the
highest level on every stage. So there
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would be no reason to think that
this contract will not be worth its weight.
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Also, I had fun on Inside
the Birds dot Com. I did
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a top ten touchdowns that DeVante Smith
has caught in his Eagles career in three
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years. I ranked them the ten
best touchdown catches, and I put little
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videos in him to show pace one. I had a lot of fun with
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it and made me remember how good
of a contested catch guy he is?
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At him for a guy who is
known as the Slim Reaper and only one
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hundred and sixty pounds, and just
how much of a how his long stride,
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He's got better speed than you would
think. I mean, he's he
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sets up corners with his footwork.
There's just not that many things. He's
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not very high level or a lead
at. Remember the catch against Washington was
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it two years ago? The one
over the middle at Washington? Yep,
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he got nailed and and he he
only missed one play. And I'm like,
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oh, he might not come back. And he's back like pretty much
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immediately, Like my god, how
does he do it? He's he's so
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slight. Who came up with the
slim Reaper nickname? Do we know?
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That's a great question. I do
not know the answer to that. That's
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the best thing I've ever heard like
that. As I heard, I go,
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oh my god, that's so good. Like give that dude a raise,
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you know, but anyway better than
skinny Batman, you know, which
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isn't bad. But that's only good
Batman. And that's been right. So
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what did Kelsey called himself fat Batman? Is that? What? Something?
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That's funny? But anyway, yeah, he's a special football player, boy.
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And why the hell how he didn't
go to Alabama years ago, to
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that school and start drafting players.
I don't know why he ignored it,
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but he nailed Dickerson and and and
Smith. My god, why the hell
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didn't he go there earlier? You
know, it's weird question. You know,
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I was reminded doing an interview that
the Eagles did draft a player from
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Georgia a whole while ago. It
was Brandon Boykin from the fourth round when
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they when they when Chip Kelly picked
him to play slot. You said,
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Georgia. No, but I'm talking
about Bama. I'm talking about No.
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I know, I was just because
we always linked the SEC. Remember fat
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time, he wasn't even drafting guys
from SEC. No, Georgia. Right,
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No, you're right, you're right, you're right. No. In
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fact that it's just funny. Why
he did he od on Georgia and Alabama?
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I have no idea but you just
said it. You kind of can't
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go wrong with the sec with an
asterisk. Of course, they are SEPs
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to every rule, but I don't
see any exceptions with Jalen Carter. Now
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again, I know he faded late, but he's a stud and talent.
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We know what the off the field
history, so he's got to do what
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he's supposed to. But obviously with
DeVante Smith and Landon Dickerson, you can't
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do much better than that. And
I got to give Vegles medical staff credit.
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We haven't really talked about this,
but it just made me think as
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you were speaking, part of why
they got it right with him was they
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thought despite all the knee problems,
based on their information, and this is
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important. You don't always get it
right when you're making bets on players with
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medical histories. They got it right. It doesn't mean he can't get hurt
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tomorrow, but just they thought he'd
be able to make it. And I
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know why he wasn't with draft in
the first round because of the injury history
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the knee. But man, that
is
a great job of evaluation. Obviously
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how he gets the credit and he
should, but kudos to the medical staff
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and the rehab staff. They've done
a finalal job with them one hundred percent.
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All right, let's turn the page
on this and we'll finish it off.
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Extensions. This is a big upcoming
year for three guys, in particular
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Nikobe Dean who's entering year three,
Cam Jurgens is entering year three, and
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the biggest of them all, Jordan
Davis, also entering year three. All
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three of these guys, if they
start seventeen games, if they play well,
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if any of them make the Pro
Bowl, they're all in line to
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be extended after year three if they
prove themselves. But you know, you
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know, I think the Eagles at
this point would be happy if two of
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the three make it. All three
is great. One of the three would
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not be a good indication of that
draft for the Eagles. In fact,
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I would add this with Jordan Davis. His fifth year option is due next
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May, so the decision will be
made on his future after the season.
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It's it's very simple, litas you
don't have to guess these These extensions are
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so easy to call, especially with
this team because Howie rarely when it sees
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no one's perfect, but when they
get it right with the player, everyone
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watching knows this with Howie and their
front office and ownership when they get it
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right. Jeffrey Ley's great because he
will spend the money as we all know,
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like you do have the player,
you develop, and you extend.
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That's what they've done for thirty years. Really, he didn't have anything to
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do with Reggie Whites. It was
Norman Brayman and when Reggie walked. But
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they treat their players well. You
saw their grades from the NFLPA, and
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Jeffrey will address anything complaints that the
players have. They just treat their players
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well. And they when they identify
players, man, they make smart bets.
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Again, they don't always get them
right. I'm sure you could go
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through twenty the last twenty years,
particularly since how he became the GM,
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where they extend and players when it
didn't work. Now they rolled over Nelson
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Aguilar's ten million and he actually did
well his fifth or off, but they
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didn't extend them, right, That
is correct, that was smart true.
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Indeed, all right, before we
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day three, guys, is there
anything on first rounders that you wanted to
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go through just to oh, yeah, the only thing we'll do when we
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do our mock draft for Monday mornings
six am Eastern, also on our Wednesday
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show, and also on our pregame, our pre draft show, we'll give
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you we'll release our list of their
first round targets. But what I would
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tell you, I just got this
like one hour before we were taping the
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show. It's my opinion based on
the people I've spoken with, that they're
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about sixteen to eighteen first round grades
from clubs. I know it varies from
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team to team. I get that
there's some probably fourteen, but and we'll
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release this list next week, but
that's is I have to kind of firm
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it up. But it sounds like
to me sixteen eighteen players, and I
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would lean more towards sixteen players.
So that that's the Because we look at
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this every year, it's important thirty
two players will be drafted because you have
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to. But only true first round
grades are sixteen to eighteen. And you
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could probably figure out some of them. A couple them are kind of surprising
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to me, but I'm gonna firm
it up. But that's the number that
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we're working with right now. Yeah, and we'll be working really hard the
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next few days. I gotta say, I was just speaking to someone before
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we were on air two. And
there are a couple guys that we have
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talked about on this podcast and who
are considered first round. Who I'm getting
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what I would say is inconsistent information
on which is not odd. Everybody sees
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players differently. But then off the
field stuff comes into play, medicals come
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into play, and all of a
sudden, something you thought was good or
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there is not there. And so
I look forward to you know, you
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and I were used to that.
We know that happens, but we got
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to make sure all that stuff gets
firmed up before
our last two pods and
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stuff. With Lay two, I
mean that's he's the wildcard for the shrift.
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He can go. He can go
as early as as nine or ten,
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and he could drop to the twenties. If you notice a lot of
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late two's visits for teams picking in
the twenties because they know he might drop.
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It's and you just talked about it
in passing. You could talk to
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thirty two teams. Their grades on
medicals could be completely different. It's an
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inexact science. Look, the Eagles
didn't have a first grade, a round
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grade on Metcalf because of his neck
right. The Seahawks had a good enough
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grade they draft him the second round. They got it right. So you
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just don't know from team team how
they're going to grade it, wouldn't you
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agree. Character also fills in because
there's various degrees of how teams look at
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character, and there's various degrees of
what some consider good or not great character,
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some of it as football character compared
to off the field character. And
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I'll give a quick example. Last
year, the cornerback from Oregon who went
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to the Patriots were Christian Gonzalez.
Yes, great, nobody ever said bad
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kid, but they wondered about the
toughness in him. There was a timidity
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to him that some teams didn't like. And some teams didn't they looked at
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the tape and said, yeah,
but he's a talented kid, and he's
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as good as anybody else out there. And that's the kind of information right
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now that we're parsing through as we
get ready to really finalize all of our
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intel. So look forward to getting
deeper into that next week when it's all
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time to wrap it up. All
right, we'll get into these guys in
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best way to do this, Adam,
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is just to break it up in
a position. We'll go through certain positions
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the Eagles, or we know the
Eagles look into or value, and then
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we'll talk about guys who they put
work in or what we heard at these
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positions, and guys that are likely
to go in, you know, on
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the second day or maybe even later. So let's start with the offensive line,
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because the Eagles have done a lot
of work on offensive lineman this draft,
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which is always a good indication that
at this point, do you would
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you be surprised in there if in
their first three picks one of them was
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not an offensive lineman. Yes,
I would be surprised if they don't,
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because they're down what three linemen from
last season signed Mattahannessy, who right now
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will be the top backup interior lineman. They have very little experience of a
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backup tackle. Raven Clark is the
one experienced guy, Fred Johnson, but
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he's a one position guy. Raven
Clark could play two actually three, left
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and right tackle and guard, but
he's you'd rather have him a tackle.
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It's okay. Depth, it's not
great. Jack Driscoll really provided some good
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depth for them. So yeah,
and plus with I know, I'm always
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I'm always careful when you see that, well Tyler Stems lining up as the
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starter right guard in in April.
Wel, that doesn't mean anything if we
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even had the draft yet, I
don't. I'll buy I'll buy it when
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it actually happens in week one.
Let's get through the draft before we give
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Tyler Stein the job. I know
he's had a good off season so far.
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Let's let's hold off because we warned
people before training camp started last season,
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doesn't have a technique down, be
careful saying he's the starter, and
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he wasn't. There was actually never
a competition in training camp, right and
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the job to Jergins a little early
which is surprising. Yeah, that drafts
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to be a good decision. On
the flip side, it's not even o
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t a. Terrell Evans was a
first team safety until literally the last week
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before the season started.
So yeah, yeah, what's uh, Justin Evans
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was the starter right over him?
Or that's right, that's correct, Justin
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Evans and Reid Blank and Ship.
Yeah, so be careful with that stuff,
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all right. So a couple of
gar interior offensive linemen that the Eagles
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have really put some work into.
We've been told and we know is one
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is a I think you even mentioned
him on a recent podcast, and an
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offensive guard from TCU, Brandon Coleman. And there's also a guard from from
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Kansas State, Cooper Beebee, who
has played both left all three left tackle,
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left guard, and right tackle at
Kansas State. These are some interesting
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guys. So Brandon Coleman, we
know, we were totally at a visit.
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We're also told from other clubs that
he's a multi position player. He's
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going to go a lot higher than
the public thoughts. As one source told
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us, he goes to the he
goes the draft. Experts don't have him.
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He goes any draft. This one
person we said that to us last
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week, that he goes, he
doesn't. The guy says, I don't
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really pay attention to what you guys
do a lot when you talk. But
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the guy goes, look, he
goes. We think in the NFL that
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this kid will be a start of
YR one and should go in rounds two
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to three, could even could steak
in the back of round two. Now,
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how did the Eagles feel about him? We don't know what they're great
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is on them, but we know
they like them. They had him in
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for a visit. Here's what I
know, Jeff Stoutlin, we talked about
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this now for six years. Loves
physitional versatility. He projects to be a
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guard tackle, a guard right tackle
to be specific. The guy Eagles had
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him in and you know what,
I wouldn't. He certainly would not project
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to be a backup. Starters are
projected by draft in rounds one through three.
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You don't draft a guard. You
don't draft a guy in the round.
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Don't think you won't compete for starting
job. Now, fourth round,
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different story. First three rounds.
They got to compete for starting job at
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some point on the rookie contract.
Yeah, and if it's top fifty because
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they picked fifty and fifty third.
You got to think that if you know
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that guy would even have a leg
up on the competition, depending on how
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it comes into camp and plays.
Oh, by the way, if they
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drafted him, he's starting over Stein. I mean, they could say whatever
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they want, but you don't draft
a guy in this If they draft them
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the second round, I bet you
fifty bucks he starts over Stein. But
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again, it's just before the draft
right now. We'll see what they do.
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Yeah. I know they want Steam
to start you and I know this,
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but let's just see what they do. Yeah. Now, that would
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be both Brandon Coleman and Cooper b
b from Band Kansas State, who has
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also played multi positions left tackle,
left guard, right tackle. They've also
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looked into a guy from Washington.
He's We've talked a lot about Troy Faltanu,
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who is projected to He played left
tackle at Washington, he could play
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right tackle. Some people think he's
athletic enough to play guard. But on
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the other side of him at Washington
at right tackle was Roger Rosenngarden, another
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guy who could be a second third
round guy. He ran a four to
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nine to two ad him at six
five three oh eight. We know that
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when an offensive lineman runs a fast
forty, it gets the Eagles attention.
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Jason Kelcey certainly did. Cam Jurgens
certainly did. And when an offensive tackle
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does it, Lane Johnson, I
think even ran a decent forty for his
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size, it's going to get the
Eagles attention. Yeah, he's uh.
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I'm looking at my round projection from
the information we have, it looks like
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late third round as we're supposed to
go that. So if he got drafted
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there by Philly, so we could
see competing for a starting job at some
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point. Because you you don't draft, there's a thinking you don't. You
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never draft backups in the third round, or at least thinking they're going to
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be a backup. They may whind
not being a backup, but you don't
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draft a guy to specifically be a
backup in the third round. So that's
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an interesting name there. I would
say on the offensive line, the kid
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from Yale. I don't know how
to say his last name. I know
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it's Kieren Madiday, I don't know
how to say it. He's a left
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tackle. I think you actually were
very I think it's a magga today.
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Yeah, okay, lockage today.
Yeah, I'm not totally sure. We'll
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look it up. So the Eagles
Combine interview with him. The question with
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him is is he just a left
tackle? You know, the Eagles are
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super big on on on versatility.
I'm very interested to see how clubs see
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him will work on that. But
I'm just interested because he's long. He's
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been a great story of development.
He's just out. He's sixty five and
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combined size six five and three.
A's long arms, seventy seven and a
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zero point eight. But the it's
the yeah, no, I'm sorry,
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seventy seven that's his height. His
arm length is ridiculous. Thirty six and
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an eighth is not a storic,
but it's way up there. Yeah,
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I'm looking at I think I'm telling
you this is a vintage Eagles analytics guy
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for Day three. Played at Yale. You know, like you could say,
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shouldn't go past the third round.
I wouldn't think wow, you think
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okay, Well, I guess I
just think the Yale background might knock him
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down a little bit. Well.
You know what, though he's he's long,
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he's a really good kid. He's
athletic. You see. Now,
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it's funny story about Lulken, the
linebacker from who's made a ton of money.
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He was so not recruited by agents
for the eighteen draft, but no
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agents really wanted him. He found
one or two one that liked him,
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and now he's one of the better
inside of the backers in the league.
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So you say, yeah, I
get it. The process. How good?
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How good can he be? If
he played at Yale, He's probably
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gonna be a doctor or something.
But the kid's really good, and I
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wouldn't discount it. Look, that
kind of left is ridiculous. Yeah,
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no, fair enough, because Kyle
Duger went to Leonoa Ryan and you know
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where'd he go in the second round
or for late first with the Patriots?
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I forget what it was second right, Yeah, yeah, So you're right.
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It's
when you find an offensive lineman
with tantalizing measurables. Sometimes the tape
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takes takes a back seat to just
the overall prospectability. So I could see
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that happening. Two other guys that
interest the Eagles. They had a visit
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from Zach Ziner from Michigan. Now, remember he broke his leg against Ohio
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State. A lot of times you
bring a guy in just to see you
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might be interested in, but it's
also for you. You're wondering about his
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medicals. You want to take a
look at him, get to know him,
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especially if he doesn't have a chance
to work out at his combine or
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a pro day. But obviously a
lot of experience there. Forty two starts
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at Michigan. That's Zach Ziner.
Guy who had a combine interview was Yukon's
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Christian Haynes. I've heard day two
for him. It might even be late
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second mid to late second round.
Uh, some people see him as so
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he's another interesting guy Connecticut. Who
would have thought Connecticut putting out all these
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tackles, right, Christian Haynes,
Karan and Maggie from Yale gotta love it.
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Yeah, Yukon's had some guys drafted
over the years, so they have
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the Eagles specialized in this guy.
These type of guys that you know going
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rounds two through particularly three and four, you know over the years. Now
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we'll see about Steam, you know, didn't get off to a good start,
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but look, you gotta go a
couple more years to put the great
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in. Yeah, there's a there's
some good name yet. Uh, there's
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a kid Travis Glover. Yeah,
we was supposed to visit. He's from
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Georgia State, not exactly a football
powerhouse by the way, No, but
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a five year starter, so a
lot of good experience there. Yeah,
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I think the way as we understand, he was supposed to visit but then
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wound up getting canceled. But the
Eagles definitely know about him late. I
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was wait, I was just gonna
add much much later than people. Well,
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again, it only takes one team
the draft a guy early, right,
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But the level competition's the problem with
him, And I was told third
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day for him. Now it could
be fourth round. But I know he's
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got a lot of hype in some
some Skott of circles and some draft analysts.
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But it's just a level competition.
But you just talked about it.
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Five year stars important that that's pretty
awesome, very much. So all right,
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let's move on to pass catchers,
wide receivers, tight ends. You
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know, before we take talk day
two or day three, you think Eagles
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might take a wide receiver first round. You're getting any vibes, I'd be
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Look, listen, I've learned my
lesson with this particular team, you you
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know, and I'm sure the fans. Everyone watching who's an Eagles fan will
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will never forget when when Purchas drafted, they probably were shocked. I would
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not be shocked because of AJ Brown's
contract. We've been talking about this of
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the entire all seas. We're not
saying he won't be with Eagles in twenty
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five. True, his cat,
his cap and cash is so high for
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twenty five. And remember it was
a backloaded contract and fuff the deal up.
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But you know, if I'm Aj
and if he blows it up again
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this season, if I'm him,
I want a new contract. I mean,
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what else could you ask for?
The guy's been incredible. What a
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trade I mean? And how he's
not one to walk away from a player
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like this. It's not like he's
Redik who was turning thirty. AJ knock
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on Wiki two to stay healthy.
He turns just twenty seven somehow in June.
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I don't know how. Seems like
he's been in the league for like
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fifteen years, but it does,
you know, I think, I think
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if it happens, it's because a
lot of the guys that they had rated
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as first rounders were off the board
and maybe there was no trade down,
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so you just take the best available
player. And it happened to be a
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wide receiver. It's a wide receiver. No, I was gonna what I
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was going to add on to your
point that's been in my wheelhouse, and
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we mentioned Marcus Smith where the Eagles
screwed up in twenty fourteen, is you
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can't just rely on if your board
gets blown up that well, we have
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this trade worked out, but what
if the what like I remember in twenty
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nineteen, I don't have it in
front of me exactly what the scenario was,
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but we were told that they had
a trade worked out with the Jets.
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The Jets want to me call Hardman. Ironically they got him years later
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with another general manager, but they
wanted a Hardman and they Jets went up
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backing out because I think the again
I have to look it up. I
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think the Chiefs might have traded up
ahead of them and drafted them one spot
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ahead of the Eagles. Okay,
well, okay, there you go.
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What the case may be is the
Jets backed out and they kind of got
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stuck. Although you know, they
claim, they claim then how much they
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wanted JJ or Fega. Whiteside didn't
work out, So you got it,
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you have to have every scenario.
And this is why trade calls were made
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for starting four weeks. We were
told they're done starting four weeks, and
478
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they firm it up like a week
or so before the draft. No team
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should ever be on the clock in
the first round not having stuff worked out.
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If the board gets blown up,
it's ridiculous. It should never happen.
481
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Definitely, all right, So let's
say they don't take wide receiver in
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the first round, but they're looking
at maybe second or third a guy that
483
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visited them. This guy is really
fascinating, not just because of his dimensions,
484
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but the way the Eagles seem to
be already stockpiling guys who are tweetyer
485
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wide receiver tight ends. Right is
Johnny Wilson Florida State. He had a
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visit with the Eagles. He's got
the body of a tight end at six
487
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six, two thirty one, but
he played wide. He played both,
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but I believe he was mostly wide
receiver his last year here at Florida State.
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Oh yeah, So, an NFL
receivers coach told me who I caught
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up with recently. He said that
absolutely would not try him at tight end
491
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right now. He would wait he
said there's something in his body. You
492
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can't teach size as the term,
and he'd want to. He'd want this
493
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guy to come in as a receiver. Now, of course, it depends
494
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on your needs at each position,
because some teams we've talked to don't think
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he runs well enough to play receiver
going for it. It just
depends on
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how each club looks at him.
But I just thought that this guy West
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Book was insisted he goes No,
No, I want him because we drafted
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him. He was I would implore
our general manager to to let let us
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playment receiver first before we decide what
we're going to do with him. Should
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be third day, fourth four,
fourth or fifth round. Could sneak in
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the third. We always just a
phrase. It only takes one team to
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to like a player or love a
player. But Wilson's some coaches don't like
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him at all because he's he's too
big, you don't know, you don't
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think he's flu enough. But he's
interesting. He's an interesting player. And
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the Eagles have tried these hybrid well, I should say receivers. They've tried
506
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these former quarterbacks. They tried the
kid. No now is with the Giants
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to boy, was he doing well
before he got hurt? Tyree Jackson Jackson?
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Oh boy, he they really got
it. It's too bad he got
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hurt. Go ahead. Yeah,
they had another kid though before that.
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Who I thought? Also the thing
played for the Cardinals, Hakeim Butler.
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Yeah it wasn't he another tall,
lengthy Yeah he They brought him a hero
512
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as receiver, but I I don't
know if he did. But the big
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one is who you you mentioned him? The guy from U Mass. What's
514
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the kid's name? Now? You
Mass? You mean? Do you mean
515
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a Fannie moment? That's it?
Where do you go to school? I
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don't remember. Maybe I thought he
went to UMass. But what happened was
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his forty day or pro day,
whatever the hell was his forty His pro
518
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.079
day workout was so great that the
Eagles couldn't help themselves. I think was
519
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:43.480
it with Chip? It was with
Chip? Yeah, right, They could
520
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not believe how well he moved,
And you know what happened. He didn't
521
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make it here. He also went
up tearing his ACL with the Cardinals.
522
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He actually stayed with the Cardinals.
It got a very small extension, but
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he did well enough to stay in
the league. Yeah. So the league
524
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is always looking for these guys who
are so tall, who somehow could and
525
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now you, by the way,
comparison
is that guy that the Rams playing
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him at receiver and tight end,
and as we understand, the Eagles are
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00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:07.760
gonna play him at receiver. And
watch this kid in training camp, folks.
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It's a former fourth rounder for the
Rams in twenty one. Yep,
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can also punt, as we've talked
about on the pod. There you go.
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Yeah, so by the way,
Boston College from Omas you were closed
531
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trying to you. There you go. Another wide receiver. This is not
532
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the same. He's not a tight
end. He's certainly a wide receiver,
533
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:28.159
but he's a big one. He
was supposed to have a visit with the
534
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.639
Eagles. It didn't did not happen. But Brendan Rice from USC who of
535
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:37.800
course is the son of Jerry Rice, had twelve touchdowns at him last year
536
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:42.239
catching passes from Tayler Williams on just
I think it was twelve touchdowns. I
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00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.360
think forty eight catches, so that's
a pretty good ratio. The knock on
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00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:51.280
him is a degree of stiffness.
He probably will because though he's six two
539
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and three eights, which is tall. He's probably gonna have to play inside,
540
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is what we've been told. So
we'll see. Yep. See.
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By the way, the Eagles have
death issue at receiver. For the future,
542
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:04.679
they have nothing that they really They've
got two guys a one year deals.
543
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.039
We know about their injury histories,
especially Campbell's. Their death is really
544
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poor for the future. Now their
hope isn't gatta Jacob Harris, Watkins,
545
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Sequan Swan Davis. One of these
guys emerges as a backup outside receiver.
546
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But right now they really need to
address that position. I know they got
547
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.280
plenty of needs, particular on defense, but it would be nice if they
548
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drafted and developed a backup receiver.
Yes, I agree. Another position that
549
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:35.079
they've been trying to address depth but
also for the future is tight end.
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We've talked about this now. The
one that really intrigues me not my guy
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out of Penn State, Theo Johnson. He is intriguing. He's a great
552
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.840
athlete, and the Eagles did talk
to him at the combine, interviewed him
553
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:51.639
formally. But from Texas's tight end
Jatavian Sanders, who has both had a
554
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.840
formal interview and a zoom meeting,
Andrew Decheco reported this a zoom meeting with
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the Eagles, So that's two different
ways that they've talk to Jatavian Sanders,
556
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who is seen as a very fierce
vertical weapon at the tight end position.
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00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:14.280
Adham, Yeah, he was a
Senior Bowl guy. He is supposed to
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go we're told late too early three
in a draft that is very weak overall
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tight end. Your guy, Theo
Johnson Penn State, could sneak in the
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second round. My favorite guy's Ben
Sinnett Kansas State, who should go early
561
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.360
three. But Sanders could run.
See the thing is he's kind of undersized,
562
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.800
and that that's when I say undersize. He's not like the super big
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00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:43.360
tight end like Jared Wiley's a white
tight end, right, So he's an
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athletic move guy. So it's gonna
come down to how with clubs see him.
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00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:51.079
But the dude can move. Yeah, he's six, he's under six
566
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four six three seven, a's only
two forty five, only two forty five,
567
00:36:57.599 --> 00:36:59.800
but he can move. Yeah,
well you better be able to move
568
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.199
if your two hundred and forty five
pounds tight end, and I'm not.
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You know, people are knocking for
a four six nine forty. I'm come
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00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.559
on, he plays way faster than
that. He's just smaller right right,
571
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and then the last tight end again, this is from Andrew having a zoom
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00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.079
meeting with the Eagles. Is Jaheem
Bell from Florida State. So obviously the
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Eagles putting in a little work there
at that position. Oh he is he
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00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:29.440
is my boy, Uh Brett Whitefield
from Fantasy Points dot Com, who's phenomenal
575
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:31.519
doing the draft. He loves his
kid. He came on our Fantasy showing
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00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:36.599
serious with John Hanson and I and
he just raved about this guy. He's
577
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.760
he Brett's a really good evaluator.
He's a I don't know, I say
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00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:45.559
he secatrarian. He just he sees
it a little differently. And he's another
579
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:52.880
one six to six to even just
too forty, but he's long, he
580
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:57.800
could run the tape. Is way
better than he's been given credit for.
581
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.960
He's another guy for six moves way
better than that. So what does this
582
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.519
I've said this for seven year or
six years, whever the hell it is
583
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:09.800
on our show. Eagles see things
differently. A lot of
the guys,
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now not all of them. They
have a high percentage of guys being drafted
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who've either visited or by the way, since COVID clubs have a much higher
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00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:24.199
they're a lot to have zooms with
more than thirty players, like you only
587
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:29.519
get thirty pre draft. Hsicis to
your complex. So it really seems to
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me, with the time that they're
spending with these undersized tight ends, that
589
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maybe this is a Kelen Moore thing. Maybe he likes those guys. By
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00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.639
the way, coach Jerrard Everett last
season with the Chargers. Hey, great
591
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:45.360
point there, very good point.
Yeah, as far as Day three guys
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that play either wide receiver or tight
end, you know, the one that's
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interesting is because we know that they
they are looking at as you mentioned third
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fourth you want, you want special
teams a slot guy Anias. I think
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I'm pronouncing you. It's either Anias
or an Aus Smith from Texas A and
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00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.199
M. He had a visit with
the Eagles. I mean he's got slot
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00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.559
written all over him. He's five
to nine one eighty. He's also returned
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00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:15.679
hunts and he's even played some running
back at at at A and M.
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00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:17.599
So that that to me, when
you're five nine one eighty you looked at
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as a slot slash returner, which
is usually a Day three guy or the
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00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:27.679
receiver at best. But yeah,
and who is the one? Who is
602
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:30.960
the guy? Andrew interviewed from Florida
State? Was it Florida State this this
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00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.079
week? Wasn't Florida? It was
from Slippery Rock or No, no,
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00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.119
no, no, he had a
kid last weekend. I'm drawing a blank
605
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:42.119
wide receiver. Yeah, maybe it's
not for state, but I thought it
606
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was a receiver. Well, he
did have a receiver from Slippery Rock name
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00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.679
Sheets. I remember him right right. He had the Monmouth running back Jayden
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Sherdon, who, by the way, Darren Sproles if we were going to
609
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talk about Day three and we weren't
going to really get into running backs,
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but Darren Sproles went out and talked
to Jaden Sherdon at his So I thought
611
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:02.400
that was really interesting. That's a
name to watch there on dates. See
612
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I running back because they want to
take ty Davis price are really high on
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and they gave them decent garanteed money. I just don't see them addressing receipt
614
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running back position now, should they
really count on it? No? Oh
615
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no. The kid that he that
he interviewed with, Jayshawn Jones. Oh,
616
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the Maryland kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a good
617
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one. Yeah, that was really
interesting. And he talked about Stephan Diggs
618
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of course, so that's receiver and
tight end we talked to. That's it
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for off. You know, we'll
talk more about these more. Well,
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we have more names for you,
but these are the guys who know the
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Eagles I've intured had interesting definitely,
all right, let us we'll move on
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right, Adam, Let's say the
Eagles do what we might have predicted them
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--> 00:42:07.079
to do and take offensive line in
round one. Then you know, on
642
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those two picks in round two,
you're looking to rebuild that defense. Get
643
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:14.159
some young building blocks. Might be
an edge rusher, might be a linebacker,
644
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a corner safety. Let's talk defensive
line edge. Mostly because there are
645
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a lot of I find there are
to be a lot of pretty decent athletic
646
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treat guys that will be available day
two and day three, and the Eagles
647
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have certainly done a lot of work
on them as they usually do. One
648
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of the guys is Western Michigan's Marshaun
Neeland. Again, he had a combine
649
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.360
interview with them. He was supposed
to have a thirty visit. I believe
650
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that also got canceled. But this
is the guy who's considered a very good
651
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:45.159
athlete and has a lot of upside. Yeah, And with canceled visits,
652
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:47.480
there are a number of reasons sometimes
that the players stayed a second day with
653
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a club or weather related illness.
There are a number of reasons. I
654
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.840
don't read anything into it. Agree
if it was canceled, you know they
655
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had at least had interest in them. So it's the world. Workouts mean
656
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:06.760
absolutely nothing, just so you know
the position coaches will want some will work
657
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:10.159
out forty players. I read absolutely
nothing. There's absolutely no indication of teams
658
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:14.400
going to play work drafted player as
they worked them out. There's more of
659
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:16.480
an indication when they bring them in
for a visit. Because clubs. If
660
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you look at and we have all
the Eagles visits, we'll go over more
661
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:23.639
of them next week. But they
were done by the way yesterday. They
662
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:29.719
had to be out of the buildings
by midnight. But there's a trend in
663
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:32.400
the The Eagles are big on this
if they've had twelve receivers in their drafted
664
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:37.920
receiver because if that becomes the position
they visit the most. I'm telling you
665
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.679
it, going back, I used
to track these more than anyone in the
666
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:46.840
country. Clubs just do that if
it's whatever position they visit with the most.
667
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:51.039
Doesn't always happen, but more often
than not, they want up drafting
668
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.599
their player, usually pretty high because
because they're telling you that they have an
669
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:57.920
issue, that's why they keep big
in that position. That's it's pretty pretty
670
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:01.400
obvious, right. So that's Seawan
neil In. Another a guy that Andrew
671
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:06.880
Dezeker wrote about, Jeremiah Washburn,
who coaches the Eagles outside the sam linebacker
672
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:14.280
slashed edge roll. He went out
to Colorado State to work out Mohammed Kamara,
673
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:20.280
a guy who is undersized but is
considered very violent and explosive violent hands.
674
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:22.760
I mean I should say, uh
an explosive. So you know,
675
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:24.360
the Eagles are putting in their work
on the edge rushers as they always did.
676
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:29.480
So what happens is with so what
they'll do is they'll take Washburns.
677
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.280
So let's say it comes. Let's
say he's a third or fourth front pick
678
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:38.480
Kamara from Colorado State. They'll have
that in their file on they'll be able
679
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:44.000
to look at that. Howie will
when he makes the call is he'll they'll
680
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:45.880
already know about the player, but
he'll use that background information. That's what
681
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:50.159
it's done. It's for background information, particularly when they draft him. And
682
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:52.239
also, by the way, Andy
Reid told me this, they take pre
683
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:58.119
draft asit information. Although they there's
a chance, there's a good chance they
684
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:00.800
want draft the player, they will
have that video of that guy in their
685
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:06.559
building. How the interaction was so
so with Washburn, you could tape the
686
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.280
private workouts, I believe, although
I know they're not done. You know,
687
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:12.920
you can't work anyone out of your
complex. Un it's a pro with
688
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.519
Local Pro Day, but I'm pretty
certain they could tape the private workouts.
689
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:20.960
But nevertheless, even if they're not
allowed to, they have what it looked
690
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:22.920
like is they work the guy out
and they talked to him and interacted with
691
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:27.480
him. That stuff's important when it
won't indicate they're going to draft a player,
692
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.119
but they'll use that information for background. That stuff's really important if they
693
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:34.039
decide they're going to draft a player. They have that interaction, and they'll
694
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.960
they'll Washburn I'm sure because remember you
know he's been a he was a personal
695
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.039
director for the he goes at one
point, h they'll have him in the
696
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:43.880
draft room and they'll be able to
look at him and
talk to him if
697
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:45.719
they if they're gonna ready, if
they're going to actually draft the guy,
698
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:52.239
that becomes really important. Yeah,
I'm just curious because we're we're on day
699
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.960
two, guys, but we did
mention lay too loud too and the medicals
700
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:01.280
and chop. Robinson's a very undersized
guy who I think you have very few
701
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:06.880
sacks his last year at Penn State. In fact, Dieza Isaac, who's
702
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:10.519
also eligible prospect, I believe have
more sacks. But in any of your
703
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:15.400
intell is there a shot because of
his lack of size, that that he
704
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:17.760
slips into the second round? Oh
yeah, a top forty pick for sure.
705
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:21.639
But yeah, sure, it's it's
I've mocked him to the nine ers.
706
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:23.880
I'm always I've been mocking him twenty
five to thirty two. So on
707
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:28.920
your point, you know you're drafting
him on ups, you're drafting on projection,
708
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:31.519
you know, based on number his
college numbers, it's not there for
709
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:34.760
him to be a first round pick. But it's not about the first year.
710
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:38.000
You the draft that has been always
will be for the future. And
711
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:45.000
it's like with and it didn't work
out with Jen with with Jamie Davis,
712
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:51.400
clubs drafted him on total upside.
He he didn't have the production to draft
713
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.599
him in the first round. The
Commandos, like many teams, saw it
714
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.039
by year three he could be a
really good player. Unfortunately it hasn't happened.
715
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:04.719
But it's all always about projection,
not the not the intermediate future.
716
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:07.079
It's about projection down the road.
What will this guy be? Sure?
717
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:12.320
Good stuff? All right, we'll
move on from the So Neiland and Kamara
718
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.840
are guys. Day two there is
a defensive tackle, Christian Boyd from Nordthern,
719
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.679
Iowa, who was supposed to again
have a visit that one I believe
720
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.599
we heard got canceled. So as
far as Day three guys, there's one
721
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:30.000
edge that really stands out because again
Andrew wrote about this one, Jaylex Hunt
722
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:34.559
from Houston. Christian he had a
pre draft visit with the Eagles. He's
723
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:39.360
fascinating at him because he started his
career as a safety at Cornell and ends
724
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:45.239
up as an edge rusher, high
upside traits laden edge rusher at Houston Christian.
725
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.719
I got. I'm gonna raise
my
hand and admit to you, I
726
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:52.280
did not know that Houston Christian existed
until I heard of this guy, much
727
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:58.280
like I didn't know about Leonora Ryan
until Kyle Duggar came out for the draft.
728
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.159
It's funny you say that, because
when I got the list of players
729
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:06.480
it would be available back in February. I'm like, Ustian Christian is that
730
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:09.559
at Allline School? What what is
that? You don't kind of like you
731
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:15.000
University of Phoenix or something like what
what? What is this? You know?
732
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:17.280
Leonora Ryan? Like it's another one? Like where the hell is I've
733
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:22.400
never heard this? I don't either. I have no idea, but it's
734
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:24.119
pretty good. Scout him by the
Patriots. Hobably just got an extension.
735
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:28.920
But yeah, well, before we
move on to to off ball the ball
736
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:32.079
linebacker. He's a very interesting player
and and uh Hunt did start his career
737
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:36.159
at Cornell, and obviously legals liked
him. They had him for a pre
738
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.039
draft visit. That's that's pretty interesting. It is because I need sort of
739
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:42.960
a projected like sixth or seventh round
guy. I mean, we're not talking
740
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:46.000
about a guy who's gonna most likely
be picked anytime in you know, early
741
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:51.519
early in this draft or even mid
Yeah. Yeah, So again, he's
742
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.679
supposed to be you know, fourth
fifth round pick. But hey, listen,
743
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:58.400
who knows, Hey, Vic Fangio. They they've never worked with Fanroo
744
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:06.320
before. Maybe Vic sees him through
through their staff as a sort of a
745
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:08.280
hybrid player. That would be interesting. Who knows? Right, All right,
746
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:10.760
let's move on to off ball linebacker
because I'll just tell you right now,
747
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:15.320
I would be stunned. I know
how many guys have signed at this
748
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:19.599
person, right. We know they
signed Devin White, we know they signed
749
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.360
Aron Brooks, we know they signed
Zach Baum, we know they got Nikobe
750
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.840
Dean, we know they have Ben
van Sumern. I'd be stunned if they
751
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:31.079
did not take an off ball linebacker
sometime before the end of Day two.
752
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:39.800
Just remember who was signed after the
season, Nikobe Dean and Ben Van Sumern.
753
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:45.000
And that's it. That's it.
That's it. So I really do
754
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:46.679
think they need a building block at
this position, and they
have put a
755
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:51.559
lot of work. And listen,
if this guy who has taken a visit
756
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.079
to them. Is there at fifty, I'd be shocked. But if he's
757
00:49:54.119 --> 00:50:01.679
there, Edrin Cooper from his athletic
testing all the he like screams Eagles linebacker.
758
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.440
Just based on the analytics alone,
Missus Studd. I mean, he's
759
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.719
just a really good football player.
Man, he's going to go in the
760
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:12.559
second he goes had it in for
a pre draft visit. Now, well,
761
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.320
how he pulled the trigger on off
the ball. Linebacker the second round
762
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:17.519
doesn't have a great history of doing
it as early as the secon und does.
763
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:21.559
It has a very small history of
doing it. I'd have to look
764
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:25.000
up who made the call on Michael
Kendricks. There's probably probably Andy back then.
765
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:30.039
But nevertheless, they don't have a
history of doing it. And again,
766
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:32.599
the draft is back projection. It's
down the line. You make a
767
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:37.320
good point. They have a lot
of inside linebackers, but they don't have
768
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:42.000
anyone really for the future. Niakobe. I know he's going to start this
769
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:45.599
season, but he isn't stayed healthy
and they need they need a future at
770
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:47.239
that position. So yeah, it
wouldn't be a surprised at all. Now,
771
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:51.760
I'm not saying they can't draft a
guy in the third round and we'll
772
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.119
you know, we'll Trotter. I
don't know if Jeremiah Trotter Junior goes to
773
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:59.079
the I think he's more Round three
than two because he's a smaller guy.
774
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:02.760
They had Trevin Wallison from Kentucky right
could be a third round pick, so
775
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.800
I could see third round. I
could see earlier as the third round,
776
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:07.800
which means the Eagles will probably have
to maneuver a little bit because maybe trade
777
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:12.079
down with one of those second round
picks because I believe they don't have a
778
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:15.679
third round pick. They give it
up for Picket. But listen, you
779
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:17.519
know how he's going to be wheeling
and dealing throughout the draft. So yeah,
780
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:22.239
I agree with you. If it's
third round, you're looking at a
781
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:24.639
Trevin Wallace who they brought in for
a visit, or Jeremiah Trotta Junior,
782
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:28.559
which I think would be a great
story if it happens for the Eagles.
783
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.119
A guy who had a combine interview
was Jill and Ford from Texas, and
784
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:35.800
then a guy who also had a
canceled thirty visit Cedric Gray out of North
785
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:37.760
Carolina. So those are really like
your your day two guys. Now,
786
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:42.599
I give you a day three guy
who I watched I see him in person.
787
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.360
I think I saw him. Jordan
McGhee from Temple Eagles were at his
788
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:52.920
pro day and the linebackers coach Bobby
King led the workout at his pro day.
789
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:54.599
So I think that that's a name
to keep an eye on. Just
790
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:59.119
so you know. The Eagles have
a one to one two two's no three,
791
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.159
as you said, were three fives
and six currently. Now, obviously
792
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:07.480
if they make a trade right after
we tape this, you know which,
793
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:08.920
by the way, they've had a
couple of things happen in our seven years
794
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:14.079
where we literally taped it. We
dropped at six am Eastern and like three
795
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:15.760
hours later they made a trade,
did something with like people like what,
796
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:20.239
what did't you take this three days
ago? No, he dropped it and
797
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.320
they did it afterwards. Relaxed,
happens. It happened. Ye. No,
798
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:27.760
that is my biggest fear for this
podcast though, quick no, but
799
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.280
uh and then the kid from is
it Spates. Oh, I don't know
800
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:35.320
if it's Spates or spites, but
Omar Omar spates from from LSU. Yeah.
801
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.480
No, he's a local guy,
so he was able to go to
802
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:42.079
the local pro day even though he
went to LSU. We were looking at
803
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:45.360
maybe like six seventh round, maybe
a rookie free agent. Yeah, definitely
804
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:49.400
day three guy, and I would
agree with your point on this. On
805
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:52.639
off the ball linebacker, I'd be
stunned if they didn't draft one, and
806
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:57.239
this if they didn't select one in
this draft and they really needed to.
807
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.920
It's the defense where offense they're pretty
sat for the future except for it.
808
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You're just depth at receiver with younger
players. But man, they need some
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developmental guys. Ye, so to
prove their depth, their young depth.
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That is definitely a problem for this
team, particularly on the back end.
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names year. We're not going to
get time to go through all of them
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because Egles have paid a lot of
attention. But you know the ones that
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really jump out at him. You
know, Max Milton is a local kid.
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He was at the local pro day. He went to Rutgers. The
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Eagles have seen him at his pro
day. Christian Parker, the defensive backs
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coach, personally worked him out.
He was at the Senior Bowl. He's
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he is a probably a top fifty
to fifty five pick forty. I think
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forty. Yeah, that's a that's
fair point. And if he his family's
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ridiculous. The mom, the dad, his dad Gary played it h Rutgers.
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Mom played, she did sports.
I think she was doing track at
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Rutgers. And you know his brother
Bo's with the Packers. He's got another
833
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brother played at Delare State. It's
pretty amazing story and one of the best
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off seasons of any player for this
draft. And he's a great kid.
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I'm gonna be great certainly. See
the thing is that Cosell talked about this.
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You know, sometimes may look him
at as a nickel. He clearly
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could play outside because he's played it. That's really what he've played majority of
838
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his career. But he could certainly
play in side because he's played it.
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So we'll see what happens with him. Rey Caestraw the problem with him,
840
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he should go on the second round. I don't think I'll get out of
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the second It's very competitive, physical, I don't. I just don't think
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he runs well enough for the Eagles. Yeah, that's possible, and he's
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not big enough per se to be
a nickel. I don't know. I
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mean, I don't know if they
see him that way. I don't think
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it's a position. He's played a
whole lot, so he could be one
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of those ones that just the body
type isn't isn't there for them. Christian
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Parker was also at his pro day
as well, checked him out and also
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talked to his teammate, who is
supposed to be I think a Day three
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guy. His name is escaping me. It's one of those hyphenated names.
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I can probably find it in a
second. But oh, Draine, Yeah
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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's another interesting guy who's a Day
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three guy. Corner. Yeah,
Chris Abrams drain yeah, right right.
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I saw Missouri play a lot many
They were explosive of offense, and they
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had some really good defensive players.
Robinson of course, is going to go
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in the late first mm hmm.
And a couple guys to a couple other
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guys. I believe Cam Richardson is
his full name is to Cameron Richardson,
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just by d Cam at Mississippi Mississippi
State. He's he's a third or fourth
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round guy. We're told. I
believe he visited. If I'm not mistaken,
859
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I know I heard he was on
their list. I assume he made
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the visit. We just know that
they like him because he's long, he
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could run. He's I hate this
char moving up draft boards. It's usually
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a fallacy, but he's a guy
who's had a lot of juice in the
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offseason. And then to check,
Andrew had a visit from Jerry and Joe.
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He said they Eagles had a visit
with Jerry and Jones. Yeah,
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day three guy, late rounder Florinda, Florida State corner back there. So
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you know, you know, the
Eagles are gonna throw some darts probably at
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these positions, and this would be
a guy who went to a big school,
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a lot of experience there, so
that that would be corners, you
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know. Safety. By the way, Andrew Phillips, we didn't mention him.
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We both saw him at the Senior
Bowl and he was really impressive.
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He went to Kentucky, he visited
I believe he visited. Yeah, he
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visited the Eagles too.
He's kind
of a Day two guy definitely. I
873
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thought he had a really nice Senior
Bowl. So maybe probably third round,
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maybe sneaks into late second round.
But Andrew Phillips out of Kentucky. And
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then as far as safety is Adam, they've done a lot of combine interview.
876
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When they were at the combine,
they pretty much talked to any safety
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who was pretty good, and that
includes Minnesota's Tyler Nuban, who will probably
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my intellis will be a second round
pick. Yep, Jaden Hicks from Washington
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State, killn Block from USC,
James Williams Miami, and Malik Mustafa wake
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Forest, I mean, these these
guys are gonna vary on where they go,
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but all of them formerly met with
the eagles of the combine cam kitchens
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who could sneak into the third round. He's he's not as highly grated as
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I was told. Like in January, I was told a little bit stuff
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and it wound up as as coaches
in front of us people got through the
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tape. He didn't think he was
as good as I thought he was what
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I'm utually told, but should go
third or fourth round before we get out
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of here. My thinking is,
because I know what we've heard is for
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over the years, they've tried.
They wanted to address the position two or
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three times, but the board got
blown up. You certain things happened,
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They traded it out, didn't have
an extra pick, whatever the case may
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be. So we'll see what they
do. But I'm agreeing with you.
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I have I have a hard time
imagining that if they don't have a third
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round pick at least that they don't
trade like And we'll talk more about this
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next week. But I still think
they I still think they wind up getting
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more picks somehow because they have so
they need so much help on defense and
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this is not a team. They're
not in a rebuild. They're retooling,
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specifically on defense. It's not a
great division. The odds makers, by
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the way, have the Eagles and
and Cowboys with ten a half wins.
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So that division's wide open. You
know, if it's so four, this
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division's definitely wide open because no one's
repeated it's and so for so let's see
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what happens. Definitely. I last
two names, Andrew did interviews with them
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on our platform. Safety out of
Utah, Sioni Vaki, Joe Casper,
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safeties coach, went to his pro
day. This guy played both safety and
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running back at Utah. Also did
some receiver drills. So that's a Day
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three guy with a lot of analytical
tests that the Eagles will like. And
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Sean Stevens from Farris State. He
is Joey Porter's nephew and Joey Porter Junior's
907
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cousin went to Ferris State. He
had a thirty visit with the Eagles.
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So that finishes it off for d
backs and all the other guys that we
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mentioned who we look forward to seeing
go on Day two and Day three and
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hey, they might be Eagles,
all right. That's gonna do it for
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this episode of Inside the Birds,
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