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Speaker 1: Fleadies and gentlemen, Welcome to Fair and Biased.
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Speaker 2: You know, everybody have their opinion.
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Speaker 3: You know, maybe I'm biased because I'm here every day.
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Speaker 1: With your host Sean Love.
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Speaker 4: A couple times a week I'll put on one of those charcoal masks. It doesn't seem to help me very much on your.
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Speaker 1: Proud home for Giants baseball and forty nine Ers football. We are the sports leader.
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Speaker 3: Who this is this thing on? I can't hear myself. I don't know what's going on. Thank you for joining us. This is wild.
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Speaker 4: This is like the wildest day ever. I gotta tell you where do we plug in?
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Speaker 3: Holder, where are we at?
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Speaker 4: I can't hear myself, don't know where to plug this thing in. Murph just left me alone. There we go, All right, there we go. Now I got some music. Now I got some vibe. I feel good.
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Speaker 3: Oh I like this music.
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Speaker 4: Very nice Holder picked this out. Oh it does everything. Unbelievable, Fair and Bias. I'm here for you. We got a lot to talk about. I gotta tell you something.
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Speaker 5: Oh.
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Speaker 3: By the way, my name is Jehan Lund. I'm new here.
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Speaker 4: I'm new here in the Daily City studios. Unbelievable. I got to tell you a story before I get to think. And I know lots of people have been talking and we need to discuss things, and there's a lot to get to and I'm going to do something here, and I don't think most people do because I realize that that I'm the customer service representative of This is kind of how I feel today. And it's the Super Bowl and your TV just went out. You're like, ah, you know, I did not take Greg Papa's job. I probably took Greg Silver's job, but I like Greg Silver, and Greg Silver took my job, and this is just like the weirdest thing ever. And I know also that this is whatever I say here will be scrutinized written about and all these kind of things. Or maybe you're like somebody there was a guy at we went to Original Joe's, and I got to tell you a great story about Original Joe's. But I went to Original Joe's last night because Bob Sargent, who is the broadcasting director and more of the forty nine ers, has this dinner kick off the year, and so I get into town yesterday, I go to that and it's like I've been in this time machine, or maybe I've been asleep. Or maybe just maybe and Tim Webb is producing in the program, maybe it's this. Maybe all this is just some strange dream. And you know how caneb Are is known for years and years and years for our long breaks. Maybe just that was a long break and it's like we're back. Was that just a long break? Or no, no, it's not a lot.
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Speaker 3: This is different.
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Speaker 4: That is a lot of cars for kids at job. So it's something. But let's just say this, it's a little strange today. I'm gonna be as transparent as I possibly can. There are lawyers, there are things that is weird. I was driving over here to the Daily City studios and I'm gonna try to keep on my thoughts straight because they're just so many weird ones here today. But I was listening to two Murph who I haven't seen in I don't know how long. I think there was a training camp practice last year that it was at for the forty nine ers and Murph was there and that's the last time of some Murph saw Marcus for the first time in a long time. Everybody here and it's a new studio and it's just it's the strangest thing because I pull up to a new parking lot we're no longer of course, in downtown San Francisco. I walk into the building, the new building that CAMBR is in, and a bunch of other radio stations and the security guard because I I mean, if you're watching on YouTube right now, I haven't changed.
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Speaker 3: Actually, I'm having a really good hair day.
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Speaker 4: I did bring a hat just in case I was having a bad hair day, but I'm having for me a pretty good hair day, So I'm gonn I'm gonna let that flow a little bit. If you're watching on YouTube. But I'm an unsavory type. I'm not an attractive man. You can look it up. And the security guy says to me, can I help you? And I was like, yeah, I work here, and he's like, well, what's your name? And I told him John Lund is my name. And the guy goes, You're not on the list. So it's this weird feeling of Tim had to s show me the bathroom where the bathroom was this morning. He didn't go in with me, but I can handle that part barely. But I didn't know where the bathroom was. I got this new key card. If you can imagine just the strangest thing to know everybody that I know, and having worked at caneb Are for a number of years and then be in a totally different place, and it's just like it's the wildest thing ever today. So that's kind of my feeling right now now in terms of everything that has been said and everything. Maybe you're like I kind of started this a little bit at the beginning. Maybe you're like a guy that was at the Original Joe's Last Night in North which we had a great time, and I'll tell you at some point just how awesome this dinner was, and how great the forty nine ers are and how much fun we're gonna have this year and everything else, and we will get to sports, I promise you. If you're like, I don't care, I remember you just get to some sports. I will, I promise you. But I feel like there's a lot of people who need a little background here. So I'm in Original Joe's Last Night waiting for everybody and just kind of hanging out, and guy comes walking out, clearly he had gone to the Giants game a Giant's hat on and says to me, hey, and I'm like, uh oh, there could be a number of reasons why people would pull me aside. And so the guy says, hey, yeah, yeah, aren't you that former kN BR guy?
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Speaker 3: And I go, yeah, yeah, I am nice to meet you.
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Speaker 4: And we take a picture together and everything's nice, and even you know,
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had his son in there, and he made his son turn the right way, and we're looking and we're smiling and we're talking, and then he finally goes, well, what are you up to these days? And I go, well, tune in at ten o'clock tomorrow to find out. So here I am. So there are some people who are like whatever, I'm oblivious to it.
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Speaker 3: Just talk sports.
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Speaker 4: You're a monkey in a cage, you know, entertain me, and that's what I'm here for.
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Speaker 3: I'm here to entertain. But I also feel like.
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Speaker 4: I owe you, and we owe you as much transparency as we can.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 4: One of the things that I've thought about this before I was doing the show today. I thought about it a lot. I drove up Penelli yesterday and I was like rehearsing in my car, you know, I was like, what should I say, how should I say it, and all those kind of things. I understand that first and foremost that everybody hates change. Everybody does, and I don't care what it is. I got a great story for you. So those who know me, and those who know who have listened to me through the years here on KMBR and other places, know that my dad, and I'll remind you of this was the fried Man. He most of the French fries probably you've consumed in your life, or at least up to about five years ago when he passed away. So it's probably not anymore, but about five years ago you probably consumed fries that my dad either produced, sold, brokered something, all right, So we had a plate plate. It was Friman and I, right out of college. I didn't want to bite the bullet and do the media thing and make no money, so I went and worked for him for just a short period of time. And one day he went up to the potato plant and near doing the fries and normally and I can't remember the exact thing, but this is close enough where the ink on the box was always red, right, These French fries are always read. And there's you know, in a truckload you just give you, I know, French fry one to one. There's like forty eight thousand boxes, right, they go on a train and they call him and they're from New York and my New York accent isn't great.
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Speaker 3: I'll give you that. Hey, hey, the ink on the box, it's green. It's good, it's not red. And I'm sorry if you're from New York and that's offensive to you.
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Speaker 4: But the somehow they changed the sense, so they didn't change the ink, and they freaked out and my dad had to go back there and we had to talk to him for a month and they were distributing the fries out and then they would get somebody going, hey, this is a different box, it's a different prize, and it wasn't. It was the same fries. So we had to convince him for a month that they were the same fries. Finally was fine. Then we got another run through and it was back to the same color. But my point is is that even in a situation like that, they were the same fries.
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Speaker 3: Everything.
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Speaker 4: We went out there, we fried up the fries, everything was fine. But people hate change, So I get it. And radio is different. And then I was talking to my wife about this today, that radio is different. A lot of talk show hosts will say, hey, everybody and essentially what happens is in radio is it's one person listening to the show. Right I'm talking to you one on one. For the most part, I'm talking to you one on one. Maybe you're watching on YouTube, which is not a pleasant experience for you, and I apologize I look the same.
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Speaker 3: Or if not worse. But basically you're you.
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Speaker 4: And I are having a one on one conversation right now, and you're like, wait a minute, man, Normally this is Greg Silver, or maybe normally this is great Papa, this is somebody, and now you're coming in. And so when I left, this is what's the weird part, the boomerang weird part of this is that when I left, you were like comfortable with me. Now you're like, hey, man, I had a new girl or I had a new relationship.
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Speaker 3: What's going on?
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Speaker 4: And so it affects you personally, and it's different than anything else. There's really not a comp to it, you know. I mean, there's items you buy at the grocery store. I was thinking, I was trying to think of things that are comps and everything else, but really radio is that different. And so am breaking up your routine and hopefully you'll give me another chance, and hopefully we can become best friends again and all those kind of things. But I understand your frustration. I understand that people don't like change, right so I am for right now that change, So I completely understand it. It's I got about two minutes here, so I'm gonna take this into the next segment. I'm gonna do a couple of things. Like I said, I'm going to be as transparent as I possibly can. Maybe it will satisfy you, maybe it will not. But you know, there are things that you don't know behind the scenes that really should stay that way. And if you really want to know what happened, how this happened, maybe you have no interest whatsoever, and that's fine with me, but if you do want to know more, I wrote a piece at Barrett Media, and all you got to do is pinned on my and you'll need this anyway. It's pinned on my social media on x slash Twitter. I don't know how much longer we have to say that on x slash Twitter at John Lund Radio and you can read about it. And I talk about Papa and I talk about this, and I talk about how weird it is and all these kind of things, and this normally doesn't happen. But I appreciate K and br and and everybody who's given me a say chance. We had a great time last night at the at the dinner. It was absolutely incredible. So look, hopefully you'll give me another chance. If you won't, If you don't, or you won't, I understand, but we're going to do a highly entertaining show from ten to two every single day. I'm not going to address this too much more because there are a lot of people
out there, Like I said, the guy that I met last night at dinner, who's just like I didn't know what happened to you. I don't know where you are. Maybe I'll tune in it too. A lot of people don't care. Some people do care. Some people think that we owe you an explanation. I feel like you do. You know, ESPN about a week ago cut a bunch of guys from Karl Ravich. I'm not the biggest Ryan Clark fan, but you know, and all of a sudden, they're gone. When I was gone, it was like, there's no explanation. There was a bunch of people. They look, they're not going to give you an explanation. No, you know, not everybody can be trusted. I mean, I certainly can. I would have said nice things and my goodbye, but that's that's not how it is. So yeah, it's for me. It's kind of a crazy strange situation. But you know what, I'll be honest with you and I'll give you the questions I get asked coming up next. But the reason I'm back, and I'll discuss Greg with you. I'll discuss Papa with you coming up next and his initial reaction to that, which kind of threw me for a loop. But I love doing radio. Man, I'm being totally transparent to you. If you had something that you did for thirty years, thirty I know I look very young, and there's no way that I could do this. It was basically right out of the womb that I was doing radio. Google Gaga, the Giant Suck, you know, that was basically I'm just kidding, but that was basically it is this. I've done this for a really, really long time. I love it. It's what I'm passionate about. So if you think about what you do for a living, or what you like to do, or what your hobbies are.
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Speaker 3: That's what mine is. This is all I know, This is all I do. I love it.
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Speaker 4: I love talking sports. I love the Bay Area, I love the teams, I love the intrigue. I love walking in here at ten o'clock and not knowing exactly how things are gonna go. And especially today, Kim's gonna help me with a clock I forgot even when we break, no, I do know now.
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Speaker 3: I know when we break, you rambling what's going on?
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Speaker 4: Just y?
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Speaker 3: I know you're not even paying attention?
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Speaker 5: Is it you?
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Speaker 3: And Holder back there? Who's back there?
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Speaker 4: But anyway, you and Raffer back there, Well, look first and foremost before I explain everything else one more time, and I'm gonna do this until, by the way, I'm gonna do this till ten thirty, and then we're gonna start the show like we normally do, and we're gonna do sports. We usually will start the show with a thing called three things you absolutely positively have to stink and know right now, so you have to be here at ten o'clock. So I'm not gonna do this speech every day, doing it today. I'll continue it next and I'm gonna do something that is management probably won't like this. I don't know if timmele like this. Holder is definitely not gonna like this, knowing him. But I'll open it up to you. I want to make the show interactive. If you've got something to say, fine, the only thing here's the only caveat it will give you. Okay, only caveat I will give you. Whether you want to say welcome back, whether you want to say I hate your guts, whether whatever it is you want to say, it's fine with me.
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Speaker 3: I've been doing this a long time.
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Speaker 4: I tell everybody I know, I got rhinoceros skin. I'm teflon. Nothing's gonna bother me. But if you want to hit us up at eight o eight camby are the only thing I ask is it's not very original, thoughtful, or smart to just do a drive by fus That does nothing for me, It does nothing for the show. We'll hang up on you, will dump you. You're not gonna get on the air. Good for you, Thanks for waiting. If you want to say something constructive, I'll take it. It's fine, good, bad, or in different fine. I'm not gonna hide from anything. We're not going to hide from anything. If you want to be constructive and you want to say something. I'm fine with it, really four five to way Camby, Are you when to get to that?
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Speaker 3: All right?
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Speaker 4: I'll tell the other side of the story coming up next. And then if you just don't care and you're like Lund, You're awesome, You're great talking sports.
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Speaker 3: This is stupid.
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Speaker 4: Okay, I get it, but I just felt like we had to have an explanation here. So what we'll do is we'll finish up because there's another side of the story that I'm sure you want to discuss and the reaction that when I when I told Papa, I go, hey, I got good news and bad news. He goes, well, i'll tell you next.
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Speaker 3: You gotta eat.
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Speaker 4: This is good. This is typical Papa, and you'll know what I'm talking about. All right, So we'll do that. We'll tell the other side. We'll have a few more laughs, tell a few more jokes if you want to talk, whether you say Lund, I'm very happy that you're back, or Lund, I hate you, please go away again. All I'm asking is be constructive, that's all. Be an adult about it. It's just kind of like the things online, like on Twitter and all these kind of things. I will reply at John Lund radio. I will reply to just about everybody, but if you do like a fly by, you know, f bom or something like that or you know whatever, you're probably not gonna get a response.
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Speaker 3: Trying to make me use the dump buttons, let's come one, don't.
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Speaker 4: I don't want to get you in trouble. I don't want my first segment to me my last segment. I just saw the Big Boss and he's like, wait a, yeah, let's go, and he's all excited.
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Speaker 3: I saw Holer.
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Speaker 4: I know Holer can get a little nervous, but I feel like this is a good thing to do. If it completely bombs, it's one hundred percent on me. And I don't know who will be in this chair tomorrow, probably Krube, by the way, Thursday and Friday.
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Speaker 3: Is he good?
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Speaker 4: Is he's
gonna hear this?
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Speaker 3: Isn't he?
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Speaker 4: He's gonna by the way, we're gonna do Craig not to go add on you, but we're gonna do Crag Krube break ins like all through camp and it's gonna be awesome.
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Speaker 3: And I love Krub. Krug crashes, Yeah, Krue crashes.
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Speaker 4: I love Krug because I was listening to the shows driving up from La Thursday and Friday, and man, he was just like, you know, he did not enjoy these shows.
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Speaker 3: He did not.
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Speaker 4: He was like, I don't want to be doing this, so I don't want to But Krug is awesome, man, and he said really nice things, and he's gonna be on the show too.
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Speaker 3: But anyway, let's get to it.
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Speaker 4: Let's get to the other side of things, and then let's get to sports at the bottom of the hour with the three things you absolutely positively have to know and between what's what happened with Nelson which is sad news, but then again he lived in.
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Speaker 3: An amazing life.
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Speaker 4: Mike Kruco, we haven't talked about at least I haven't I need to talk to about. I got a lot of news on forty nine ers Camp. We get a ton of sound to get to. We just had a crazy weekend of stuff, all the giants that were honored, the Wall of Fame ceremonies. We get a ton to get to. So let's do this one more segment. I'll tell you about the way that Greg reacted.
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Speaker 3: To this whole thing.
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Speaker 4: He was not happy with me, but then I explained things and there's a lot more to the story. Than that, and if you want to hit me up, that is fine. I gave you one caveat and one and all and that's fine. Eighty eight K ANDBR. Thanks to Jonaas you are listening to KNBR six eighty and one O four five the sports.
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Speaker 1: You were listening to Fair and Biased with John Lund. Follow us on exit Instagram at KNBR this is the sports leader.
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Speaker 4: I didn't stop talking the whole break. Thanks for jonaas fair and Biased. We'll call it fab fab.
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Speaker 3: He's probably gonna asume me for that one, but I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I like fair and biased. I often said that in my previous life. If here on KMBR, I am John Lund. I am the new employee. Thank you for joining us. If you're waiting for us to get to sports, we'll do sports on this show. We'll do lots of sports on the show. But at about what's what's the clock? Like?
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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I always let it flow, but anywhere from like thirty three to thirty five past the hour, I.
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Speaker 3: Think, right, Kim, am I right with that? That somewhere around there? Yeah, so I'll land the plane.
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Speaker 4: So we're around thirty three to thirty five past We're gonna do this at ten o'clock normally, but I felt like we had to get these things out of the way.
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Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to the people eight away.
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Speaker 4: Kmbruh hit me up on the text line,
what is that five six two seven, five six two seven on that whole thing four one, five eight eight five six two seven, which is KMBR.
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Speaker 3: I know that. I'm just getting my wheels.
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Speaker 4: Under me again. Man drove in today, it was weird. Went to Daily City, it was weird. Walked into this place, it was weird.
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Speaker 3: I'm new, but I'm not.
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Speaker 4: Couldn't find the bathroom. Yeah, you had to walk me to the bathroom and I was like hold me and you were like, that's where.
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Speaker 3: I draw the line.
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Speaker 4: And then I saw this guy, uh Fig, they just call him Fig. I worked at ninety five seven. I'm well traveled as you well. No, I worked at ninety five seven when I first got here in twenty eleven, and Fig was like he was okay, and now he's.
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Speaker 3: Like this big superstar that you read about.
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Speaker 4: I haven't seen that guy since like twenty fourteen, since I walked out the door. First guy I see is him. I'm like, and my eyes are like, you know what I mean. I just I feel like I'm in the twilight Zone, like a real, real twilight zone. All right, let's do this. I owe you honesty. Let me tell you one story that the I'm gonna get out to the people, and I'm absolutely amazed that the text line is blowing up generally positive.
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Speaker 3: By the way, a lot of people who.
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Speaker 4: Hadn't heard me before in the Bay Area are making reference to a show that I do for Western One Sports. They do a national show on West One Sports, which actually runs on K and BR on Saturday and Sunday nights, and then occasionally, as Ron Bergen, he said, on occasion, I did a show that went three to six AM, in other words, before Murph and Marcus and a lot of people would hear it. I'd get a lot of response from it and was very cool. So a lot of people are asking, are you the guy from the Drake Toll show. Yeah, that's me for that. I was here from twenty eleven. I guess I should go back for those who don't know, I was here from twenty eleven to twenty twenty four, but working for both ninety five to seven and here at came and br I was the guy that sat next to Greg as Greg spoke a lot.
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Speaker 3: You might not remember me. That's totally cool.
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Speaker 4: And then I was with Tom Tolbert before that, and that's what I came over so real quick. And then I'll get out to the people and then at about as we said, thirty five ish will actually hit sports the three big stories you absolutely positively have to know right now, and we'll start actually doing a show. So I text Greg this thing happened fast. Like I said, I'll be as transparent as I can. This thing happened fast. They called me up and said, hey, do you want to do this. I didn't know quite the ramifications that would come down. I didn't know quite the response that there would be, but I totally understand it. And like I said, I'm like the customer service rep your cable or your internet or whatever.
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Speaker 3: You're watching.
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Speaker 4: The super Bowl just went out and you got somebody that you want to talk to where yell at or scream at or say welcome whatever. I'm fine with either either or at eight away cambr or hit us up on the text line. So I text Greg and I this is my I have a t which was. I text Greg and I thought, well, he's gonna be happy. This is cool.
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Speaker 3: You know who knows.
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Speaker 4: And he texts me and he goes, bro, you're taking my job while I have cancer, And I'm like, I thought he was joking. And I was like, where's the laughing emoji's? Like where are those things? And it's like they're they're not there. And so I text him when I go, are you serious? And we go back and forth, and then after about four or five texts back and forth, and again, I can't tell you everything.
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Speaker 3: I just can't.
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Speaker 4: There's lawyers and paperwork and also I just I can't. I can't tell you all this. You'll understand someday, or maybe you don't care at all. But we're good. I'm gonna go up and see him.
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Speaker 3: I can't wait.
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Speaker 4: I'm excited. We work together for fifteen years. We're like brothers. Man.
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Speaker 3: It's just he's the greatest. It is my personal opinion.
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Speaker 4: Okay, this is not the companies, This is not a lawyer, this is not anybody. This is my personal opinion, which I'm paid to do. This is what you're gonna hear from ten to two every day. I am paid to do this. If Greg Pop is healthy. In John Lenn's opinion, Greg Papa will be back. That's my opinion, nobody else's. I didn't take Greg Papa's job. I appreciate you thinking I have that kind of juice, but I don't. That's just that's the bottom line, right, So I'm being as transparent as I can.
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Speaker 3: I didn't know Greg Silver that well, but.
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Speaker 4: He's a super talented guy that got put into a really, really, really tough situation. That's why we are where we are. That's my opinion on it, right, that's it, So.
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Speaker 3: Give your thoughts.
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Speaker 4: Eight toweight Cambre hit me up on the text line four one five eight eight five six two seven. I love that I'm back. This is what I was born to do. I'm passionate about it. I could sit here during the breaks. Everyone's like, lund you're gonna do a solo show man. That's that's tough. That's insane. It's like, dude, do you know who I am? Like?
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Speaker 3: This is what I do.
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Speaker 4: I tell my wife is like, thank God, because I was doing podcasts, I was launching podcasts, networks. I was all around this thing I was doing. I do a national show. I did a local show in Arizona. Like it's just like I'm on the corner man shaking a cup, going, hey man.
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Speaker 3: You got any more of those microphones? That's what I do.
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Speaker 4: So for four hours, that's what I do. I don't have a problem with it. As you can see. I talk during the break. Stam's like, dude, rest your cords, all right, that's a show in the break I know. I'm like, hey, so let's do this, all right, jump on the line. Whatever you want to say. I don't care if it's negative, I don't care if it's positive teflon rhinoceros skin. If you got something to say, as I would like to say, speak now, if forever, hold your piece and we're going to move on to Sport, all right. AJ Cruz in the four to eight is going to start us off. AJ, thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. You're on camb Are Go ahead, my friend.
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Speaker 6: I just want to say, welcome back, John. I understand the circumstances are pretty difficult, but besides that, it's great to hear a familiar, familiar voice in the airwaves. You know, I'll followed you from when you initially left to your show and been just waiting to hear from you again. And you know, I'm glad you're back. So I just want to say, also shout out to my man Tim. Just two things for you. One, stay away from the caramel coffee. John, don't do it. Don't do the caramel coffee. It wasn't good. It's nothing else.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I love you so much. I love you so much.
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Speaker 6: And despite all the circus says and all the crat that's playing around, a lot of people don't understand the feelings. I just wanted to tell you one more thing. Jan we get a jant. It's kind of town.
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Speaker 4: See that guy gets it. I guess I have to explain the caramel coffee man, that is so good. Here by the way, if you have old stories that I have forgotten, see I didn't even remember that story. So my wife would just shove caramel coffee down our throat. And I don't like, I'm like, I think you and I are on the same page.
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Speaker 3: Tim.
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Speaker 4: I don't like any flavored coffee. None black as ye strin black. Yeah, that's it. And I've just I've I've and people go, oh, black coffee. It's just if that's what you drink, you just you just get used to. It's like anything. I love old fashions. I like straight whiskey. I don't like to put soda in it. I don't like to mix up things. I don't like food, food drinks.
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Speaker 3: I don't.
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Speaker 4: It's no offense if you do like I'm not judging. If you have an umbrella in your drink, it's fine. I have a thing that you might remember that. I absolutely love you.
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Speaker 3: Do you? That's why I'm here.
00:24:05
Speaker 4: By the way, all these people, you shouldn't do this, Lond, This is stupid Lund.
00:24:08
Speaker 3: Why are you doing this?
00:24:09
Speaker 4: You're all these different questions. I say, you do you? If you want to do it, you do it. Let's see, let's see some of these. Welcome back. Congratulations, love doing. You and Tommy were together, absolutely loved it. Seven oh seven says welcome back, Johnny Lund. Yeah, you can call me Johnny. I have no problem. We've gone through this before. My grandma was the only one to call me, uh was to call me that. Here's our first welcome back, mister
Lund. I don't like being called mister Lund, Johnny John or you can call me dirty names. Mister Lund sounds old. Please don't do the kabooz pistol. Wow, what there you go?
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Speaker 6: WHOA.
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Speaker 4: I'll take suggestions. I'm open for things. I mean, this is not a democracy, but maybe do not do the kabooz pistol. For those who don't know, we're not doing it exactly calling it that, or we're doing something like that. I'm sorry.
00:25:02
Speaker 3: Let's see.
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Speaker 4: See again, if you ask about legalities that only lawyers know, as you can already tell, I'm not that smart, and so when you ask about legalities, I can't answer those. Like I said, I'm being as transparent as I possibly can. But when you ask about lawyer ease, not only does it go over my head, I really can't say anything about it. I apologize. Let's see, let's see welcome back and all right, great stuff, really good? Yeah, okay, you can give me any more anything that you remember about the old shows that you can jar my memory because I forget about stuff or on the air four hours a day, I probably say, I don't know. Would you say one hundred thousand words and four hours at least, I don't remember. People come up to me all the time after shows and go or you know whatever, and they'll say you remember that time you did, and I'm like, you know, sometimes I don't.
00:25:50
Speaker 3: I don't even remember yesterday.
00:25:51
Speaker 4: All right, I'll still take the calls hit us up eighty eight cambr for want to get into the text line as well. You don't have to love me. I can take it both ways. Oops, there's my first drop eight by sixty seven four five. Anyway, kveyard the text side, I want to hear from you. We are going to be a very interactive show because if it's me yip yapping for four hours, I'll probably be gone, I don't know tomorrow the next day. All right, let's get to sports though it is time. We're gonna do this at the beginning of every show at ten o'clock, and we're gonna do it again at twelve o'clock because you need to know what's going on in the sports world. You have a busy life and you can't always be playing in the toy box of life. So very very simple. We're gonna do that coming up next. But do remember we have our first gaff. We have our first gaff on the show. This is not mine, this is Tim and I'm kind of like Ron Burgundy. Anything you put on a sheet he will read. This is what it says Poppin' silver sponsored by Redwood Credit Union.
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Speaker 3: There you go.
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Speaker 4: That's on you. And you know I'll read anything. I'm just not that bright hand of the scores there. All right, let's get to it. We got the three things you absolutely positively have to know, and we
are busy on this Monday. Let's do it next. It's fair and bias only here on the sports Leader.
00:27:18
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's fair, most of that time he's biased. Back at John lundt fair and biased only on the sports Leader.
00:27:31
Speaker 3: That's a true statement, fair and bias. Thanks to joining us, her ol Pel John Lund. If you are new.
00:27:35
Speaker 4: Around here, I was here from twenty eleven till twenty twenty four boomerang and I'm back.
00:27:40
Speaker 3: It's weird.
00:27:41
Speaker 4: It's strange. You can ask, like I said, as long as we are cordial. You can say you don't like me. You can say you love me, which I would feel better about and would build my confidence.
00:27:49
Speaker 3: But whatever, we're gonna open the lines.
00:27:51
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be as transparent as I possibly can, and we will absolutely get to sports.
00:27:54
Speaker 3: Eight oh eight KMBR love to hear from you.
00:27:57
Speaker 4: You can hits up on the text line if you don't have time to wait for five eighty way KMBR four and five eighty eight five six two seven. By the way, we're still getting used to where the clocks are in the studio. It's thirty eight and fifty fives, so it's thirty nine past the hour. We've got to be on time for Larry Riley. So what are we looking at? Twelve minutes to Larry Riley, eleven minutes to Larry Riley, ten fifty former Warriors executive. First question, I'm gonna ask him about Nelly is and if you didn't hear the sad news Don Nelson passed away at the age of eighty six. Yesterday had been on and I got really lucky with this. I'm gonna hit out the lines in just second. You're on the line, Hang on a second, and I'm gonna read some of the texts, especially the one that says why not Rod Brooks instead of you?
00:28:35
Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:28:35
Speaker 4: I told you I'm not management, not a management, not lawyer. Somebody called me up and goes, you want to talk on the radio for four hours a day in San Francisco, your favorite place, about some of your favorite teams, with some of your favorite people. And most people were like, you should have turned that down. I'm like, I don't know. Somebody called me. I said, yes, it was only a couple of weeks ago. Left, my wife left, my kids, left my dog. I'm living out of my car. This morning I woke up, I'm like, oh, you know, drove over here by the way. It's so great and refreshing. Tim you live in the city, so you know this. Give me two seconds, I go on tangents if you knew here, I hadn't driven in the city, and you know, a year and a half. So I'm only staying about five five miles from here, not five minutes. Five miles is half an hour, and I'm driving and I just started laughing because it was two box trucks on the side so you couldn't get by. It was two guys on a bike giving me the finger. It was a couple of guys on the scooter going wrong way on a one way and I just, I honestly just laughed outside and I go, welcome ho. This is like, ow if you almost gotten hit by a bicycle on your way and you didn't really drive. Plus, the guy came up from behind me, and I was just sitting there because there was two box trucks and I thought I can't fit between these guys, and so I tried to move to the left. He comes up on me and it gives me the finger. It hits the back of my car, and I'm like, bro, what did you want me to do there?
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Speaker 3: And then then you know then at.
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Speaker 4: The same time, it's not they can't. It happened all at once. It's got to be simultaneously. So it's two box trucks, two scooters going the wrong way, two bikers going by me, and somebody like jogging.
00:30:09
Speaker 3: All at once.
00:30:09
Speaker 4: I'm like, yep, welcome home. This is beautiful. I love this all right exactly. That was my ride in all right. Let's get to all of it anyway, cambr thanks for joining us. It is a new old show. Your good friend John Lound with you. It is fair and biased. We are here weekdays ten am to two pm. Thank you very much. You don't have to be nice to me. I'm okay.
00:30:28
Speaker 3: If you want to welcome me, it's great.
00:30:29
Speaker 4: If you want to get something out so that you can be a productive member of society today, that is fine too. Let's lead off with Craig is up first. Hi, Craig, Welcome. You're on CAMBR.
00:30:41
Speaker 5: How's it going, John?
00:30:42
Speaker 2: Hey, Jay, I've been listening to KMBR since ninety eight.
00:30:46
Speaker 7: Lived out in the Bay Area for about thirteen years and then moved to Arizona. Been there for a while, but I remember obviously, I come back when I when I'm here, I'm listening to Kambar.
00:30:55
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll listen we get him late at night, depending on where I'm at Connects.
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Speaker 7: But of all, I remember you with Tommy a lot, and so it was kind of cool because not too long ago, obviously I'm.
00:31:08
Speaker 2: Listening to sports radio in Arizona. I'm still, you know.
00:31:11
Speaker 7: All Bay Area sports fan.
00:31:13
Speaker 2: But Arizona is not like LA teams, so I you know, I don't mind listening a little bit. They're not as hard.
00:31:18
Speaker 7: But anyway, so I heard you on the radio down there, and I was pretty excited because obviously you.
00:31:23
Speaker 2: Have a high energy. I like a lot of you know, the.
00:31:26
Speaker 7: Way you communicate and how you talk about sports, and so I was thinking, oh, man, maybe he's gonna come in and take over one of the spots for the people. And I knew one of the guys was gonna probably retire in the afternoon, so I was pretty excited about that. But obviously I think of you more in the Bay Area, so it was just cool to hear today.
00:31:45
Speaker 2: I'm I try. I flew in last night.
00:31:48
Speaker 7: I got a couple of days I'm gonna be at events. I was listening to the radio anyway, so it was pretty cool to know that you're back. So for me, it's a positive. I think it's awesome. I'm excited for you. You know, I'm down there more in Arizona,
so I again I was hoping you're gonna get on there, but you know, you would have been talking about Arizona sports. I'd really talk about Bay Area sports.
00:32:11
Speaker 3: So good stuff.
00:32:11
Speaker 4: Man, I appreciate you checking in. It means a lot to me. Thank you, Craig. Have a great day that open jump NATO at KMBR. John lund In it is fair and biased here on the Sports Leader. Let's go to Dino in the five to five nine. Hi Dino, welcome you're on CAMBR.
00:32:24
Speaker 8: Go it ahead, Lund Bro, Welcome back man.
00:32:28
Speaker 3: Thank you brother. That means a lot to me, man, it really does. Thank you.
00:32:31
Speaker 8: Honestly, You're like a warm blanket, dude. I know that CAMBR has been going through a whole lot of who knows what, dude, yep, But when I heard your voice this morning, like I just cracked on the radio and you were in there, and I was like, that's lone, dude, and I was so excited.
00:32:47
Speaker 3: Thank you.
00:32:48
Speaker 8: I don't know what's going on with all of that, but really though, welcome back, dude. I love your takes.
00:32:55
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear.
00:32:56
Speaker 8: I don't know if you're gonna do it, man, but the Afternoon Delight. I've been singing that in my head for years now, ever since You've got you and a Greg had that show and it like literally came to fruition dude. So if you get the Afternoon the Light in there, bro, that's gonna make a lot of people happy. But yeah, man, welcome back dude. We all love you, man, and just tear it up. Bro, have a great time and we missed you man.
00:33:17
Speaker 3: Thanks anyways, man, have a.
00:33:18
Speaker 6: Great day, dude.
00:33:19
Speaker 3: Thank you. You just made my day. I appreciate it.
00:33:21
Speaker 4: And again, look, if I want to make this one hundred percent clear, because like I said, I want to be as transparent as possible.
00:33:26
Speaker 3: You can you cannot like me, you can like me. I dig it.
00:33:28
Speaker 4: I'd rather have you like me. That's really great, really nice thing to say. The one thing too, that's fluid about the show. Tim and I talked about this with Oler as well. We got some stuff for you. But the great thing about radio, and I've always been this way, is if it sucks, we're gonna get rid of it, and if you like it, we're gonna keep it. And if people request enough things, I'll be like you know, some radio DJ. You know, we'll just we'll do stuff. Oh yeah, I open for your request here. Yeah, let's get get you know, we'll do that. We'll get the request going, We'll get the request line.
00:33:55
Speaker 3: You want to see you afternoon? The light great. We had a bunch of people.
00:33:57
Speaker 4: It was funny because I looked on the text line and but the first text I saw was no kbuz pistol, No kabuz pistol, And then like nineteen texts come in and I don't even think I'm embellishing, which I do a lot, but like nineteen texts come in and they're like, no, you've got to have it. So we have a version of it. We have a version of it, and we may we may mess with it a little bit. I mean times have changed, can we be honest? Times have changed a bit since twenty eleven when me and Greg, me and Pop used to run out you know, the FCC a little bit of foul.
00:34:28
Speaker 3: When some of those things that we would run, you know, like.
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Speaker 4: Danny Myanis, I mean Danny Mayanis might have been that might have been a little bit, a little bit on the line, that might have been a little bit over the line. Uh, just at work. Do this at work, especially if you work at a bank. Go to YouTube and put in Danny Myanis and it's a fighter.
00:34:47
Speaker 3: It's an MMA fighter. It's really his name. And there was a fight.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you can find it on a fly, but there was a fight and then meme fight and the announcer it was amazing, and then we had the fighter on you know, that was kind of that was a little bit on the line. I know what went over the line, and I can't believe we didn't get fined for this. Remember Dolly the Dolphin, Like, we talked about Dolly the Dolphin, and then Greg Papa hadn't he wanted to ask him the money question, which was and I'm not even gonna say it because I don't want to get fined on my first day. But relations anyway, I want to talk about the dolphin. All right, let's go, let's go to pay.
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Speaker 3: Yes, that's it.
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Speaker 4: Everyone remembers that that was amazing, all right, Just that much is perfect? Everyone remember, I just want to Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, we don't want to talk about the dolphin. Pats and Concord. Hi, Pat, Welcome you're on KMB. I appreciate you.
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Speaker 9: Hello John, Hello John, Hello Pat?
00:35:43
Speaker 5: How are you? Man?
00:35:44
Speaker 9: Welcome back?
00:35:45
Speaker 4: Nice.
00:35:47
Speaker 9: I'm interested to see what she got going. Dude, I'm I'm happy if if we're going to lose the Gregs, I'm happy that it's someone that we already know and we're not, you know, breaking in somebody new that we may or may not like. Man, dude, you got to keep a version of the Kaboost pistol. And I know any show with you and Tim is going to be funny dude, not trying to glaze here.
00:36:06
Speaker 4: Bro's gonna have fun.
00:36:07
Speaker 9: I just I know you guys, and I know you guys are going to have a fun show. And you got to bring back the stripper voice at some point. Oh yeah, I had the stripper announcer.
00:36:17
Speaker 3: Look, Tim's already got his hand up, Pat, And I really appreciate you.
00:36:20
Speaker 4: Thank you for checking in. It means a ton to me, It really does. I'm not just saying these things. I try to be as real as I possibly can with everybody.
00:36:26
Speaker 3: And this is a look I'm gonna be out. This is a weird day.
00:36:29
Speaker 4: It's a weird day in a really good way. It's just like I said, I walked in. I see Murph. I walked in last night at Sarge's Italian dinner to kick off forty nine er season. And these are
people that I absolutely love and adoor and respect and are extremely talented.
00:36:46
Speaker 3: And I haven't seen him for like two years.
00:36:47
Speaker 4: And I kind of slinked off to the corner for a minute there and I saw Tim and I was like, oh, you were like a ship in the harbor, because I was like, how's everyone going to.
00:36:55
Speaker 3: Act we hate you. You got Popa.
00:36:58
Speaker 4: Fired and I'm like, no, I didn't. I do not have that kind of jews. But yeah, look, we're gonna have fun. We're gonna talk sports, We're gonna have opinions. I'm not I'm not gonna tell you what we're gonna do because you're like, we'll do it. Then That's what I always thought. I always like, you know, people who sit and tell you what they're gonna do. We are, We're gonna be great, and thing's gonna be fun. But we just kinda we got to kind of put our toe in the water a little bit and reintroduce everything because it's a crazy day. I'm not gonna lie to you, all right, let's get some normalcy. Coming up next, Larry Riley, Great Warriors executive and really underrated, doesn't get the credit that he deserves for what the Warriors have been able to do during their dynasty. I wish we were having Larry Riley up and on under better terms, But Larry Riley's gonna join us. Coming up next, Warriors Executive to talk about the death of Don Nelson. If you did not know, the Great Nelly passed away yesterday at the age of eighty six. I choose, and you can. You can choose however you want to look at it. Obviously I choose to celebrate Nelly because I just don't think that anybody has ever and ever could live a better life. But let's talk to Larry Riley about it. He's got a great insight into it. Next you listen to Fair and Biased only here in KMBR six't eighty and one O four five FMD Sports Leader.
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Speaker 1: You're home up giant spaseball for nearly half a century. We are the Sports Leader, and this is Fair and Biased with your host John Lunn.
00:38:20
Speaker 3: What's happening? Thanks to join us.
00:38:22
Speaker 4: I am back and we had a fun conversation about it in the first hour of the program. If you missed it, never fear, we'll reset all of that at noon. So if you want to discuss, if you want to talk, if you want to welcome back, if you want to give me vitriol, if you want to act like I'm the guy who works for the cable company or internet company and it's the super Bowl and your game, you know the super Bowl went out. You want to scream and yell and get that off of your back. So you can be a contributing member of society. I'm completely fine with that, and we'll reset everything at.
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Speaker 3: The top of next hour.
00:38:51
Speaker 4: That's what we're gonna do here on Fair and Bias with your old friend John Lunn. Crazy weekend, And you know, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It's always sad when you lose someone. John Nelson passed away at the age of eighty six. But I don't know if there was anybody who ever lived a better life, from multiple championships with the Celtics to obviously at one point he was the all time wins leader in NBA history. His friend Greg Popovitch passed him for that goes over to Maui and and I remember Tom and I talked to Nelly over in Mali one time and he was pretty much living his best life and just pretty amazing. And everybody knows the stories, but I can't tell the stories, not nearly as well as former Warriors executives Executive in Front of the show Larry Riley and Larry joins us here on the UMA guest line on KMBR.
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Speaker 3: Larry, how are you.
00:39:37
Speaker 5: I'm doing well, John, You've made a pretty good description thus far. Of Nelly's accomplishments and quite an individual without doubt.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, like I said, and you know, I've lost my parents and it's you know, it's never great. And I remember my my father he passed with cancer and that the last thing he said to me was, hey, man, don't don't be sad about this. Have a celebration of life for me, because he said, all I would do is more of the same and say it kind of lifted a burden office And I almost feel that way when I think of Nelly's life is there. Yeah, it's sad, But man, did Nelly live a great life? So how do you kind of view it?
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Speaker 5: Well, I agree with you. I don't know anybody that lived a more full life than he did. And as you talk about him, I got to know him, of course quite well. The most unique individual that I ever met, no question about that. He's one of a kind. And all the accomplishments and so forth are documented. But here's a guy who was extremely intelligent. He was an innovator as far as particularly basketball goes, and very interesting to be around. If he had a thought that was a little bit risky, I try it. He didn't have any sense of fear in terms of, well, if this doesn't work, Okay, it doesn't work, we'll just do something else. And he had all kinds of things in his bag of tricks, so to speak. He also was a person that he cared about the people that he worked with, and he spent a lot of time, you know, just visiting with other people. And as you said, once he retired, he kicked back and lived the life he wanted to live, totally relaxed. I didn't know if he could ever quit the game, retire and get away from it.
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Speaker 4: And he did it quite well, absolutely well, said Larry Riley is joining us. We're talking about the life of Don Nelson, unfortunately housed away yesterday at the age of eighty six. His his innovations in basketball, and they're they're they're well documented, and you know, going small in the different things, says as you see his contrabbutions to the game, what would you say they are, because like you said, he was a guy who wasn't afraid to try.
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Speaker 5: Some well, and everybody talks about, okay, we're playing a lot faster now and we wanted to speed the game up. And some people don't even give him credit for that, but he was one of the first coaches
that wanted to speed the game up and wanted to play fast. He also had a lot of things to do defensively that escapes a lot of well a lot of basketball fans don't know. At one time he was as much of a defensive genius as he was an offensive genius, because during particularly the seventies and eighties, there were certain areas on the floor where a defender could not move over and be out of his zone, so to speak. Nelly learned how to defend and to take advantage of that on both ends, and he was in regards to that kind of thing. Offensively, he would lift two guys outside, get him totally out of the play, put him on the sidelines out at the top, and play three on three and you know, just things like that that he would come up with. And he could watch film, for example, he would see things right away that most of us and we'd have to watch it two or three times to pick it up. But he picked up on things right away, knew exactly how he wanted to attack, both offensively and defensively.
00:43:36
Speaker 4: That's well, said Larry Riley, former Warrior's executive Jonaths were talking about the life of Don Nelson.
00:43:42
Speaker 3: I got a quick story for you.
00:43:43
Speaker 4: So I'm working in Dallas, right and I'm the program director of the radio station, and Larryot's football all the time. In Dallas, it's high school, college pro and nobody had ever done this. I reimaged the entire station after the MAVs went sixty seven and fifteen. You know that we believe here, and I'm like, we're going all in on basketball. Then you guys at Nellie, you beat the MAVs in game one, and you beat Avery Johnson in Game one, And I called my voice guy in the middle of the night and I said, we got to reimage everything. The Warriors are going to beat the Mavericks. I mean, of all the great things he did, is that the one. And there's a lot of accomplishments here, all the championships he won as a player, but I mean to have an eight me to one and just what that did to the community in the Bay Area that was absolutely amazing, wasn't it.
00:44:31
Speaker 5: You've got it? I would say, of all the things that he did, now, I'm not talking about his playing career exactly, but in his coaching career, if you were to ask him what was the most satisfying, he would say it was a we believe team. And you know, he did such a masterful job of coaching those guys, and frankly, they were better players than what people realized. Although they weren't great, but he got them organized. It's one of his better coaching jobs ever. And he also had a psychological side to him, where he was part of getting those guys to understand the game and to believe that they just could succeed. We went into that series with a great deal of confidence, and just like you, when we won Game one, we knew, okay, we got a great shot at this one, and we weren't shocked. The players weren't shopped, our coaching staff wasn't shocked. And Nelly kind of downplayed things. He didn't want anybody to get overly excited as a player or I was on the coaching staff at that time, didn't want any of the coaches to get overly excited. He just kind of downplayed it. But then when it was over, he was ready to say, and I'll never forget we had one hell of a celebration night after Game six when we won it.
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Speaker 4: I remember that I was covering that series too, and like I said, I ran the station and you may not know this, probably don't. I'm sitting in my office and all of a sudden, I see this guy come flying by me and I said, I swear that's Mark Cuban. I walk outside of my office and Mark Cuban had gone directly on the air on our PM Drive show to try to explain how they lost the series because our show was just crushing the Mavericks.
00:46:30
Speaker 3: How could you lose to an eight and all this kind.
00:46:33
Speaker 4: Of stuff, and Mark was just on fire about it. It was just it was one of the craziest things. But that was awesome. What a great series for you guys. All Right, we've got to settle thing one thing once and for all, because we every time we've had Nelly on the show, he's like, yep, I drafted Steph Curry. Steph Curry is mine, that's my baby. But I know that you had a large part in the drafting of Steph Curry. So what's the real story.
00:46:59
Speaker 5: Well, story is it was simple because we had done our scouting. I had seen Steph play several times. He was my guy, and I talked to Nellie and sent him some tapes and he simply agreed. And what happened to the owner at that time was Chris Cohan and he and Robert Rowl were basically working the front office, and they told me, don't let anybody else pick. You make the pick, don't let Nellie make it, you do it. Well, it became simple because Nelly liked it too, and so we both drafted him. We both loved it. And that's that's the real story. That's where it went.
00:47:42
Speaker 4: But it was like, don't let Nellie make the pick because at last second he might change his mind something like that.
00:47:50
Speaker 5: No, what they actually they had lost a little bit of confidence in when it came to making trades and the draft, and it went I take it went back to the Chris Weber scenario. You follow what I'm saying.
00:48:05
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and uh.
00:48:08
Speaker 5: And they love Nelly as the coach, and then they they wanted him on the bench, and you know, they basically said to me, you're the guy that's been out there doing this cabbing. You've seen him play live, you've been on top of it. This is your call. Well, obviously I'm going to talk to my head coach and Nellie and I agreed on a lot of things, and we occasionally disagree, but shoot, that was simple as could be. He saw the films, he liked what I was telling it. We both said, yeah, we're in. We did it together.
00:48:42
Speaker 3: That's awesome to hear. Before I let you go, Larry, did you? Did you? You did go out to the to the Maui camp compound, didn't you?
00:48:51
Speaker 5: I was there several times, but I did not go
recently. You know, Nelly kicked back and he got to enjoy and things that I didn't enjoy. And so I don't know it probably it was probably four or five years since I've been there. I was probably over there, I don't know, six seven times, and we always had a great time. At that time, he was smoking Cuban cigars, oh okay, And I don't know, I don't know how many Cuban cigars he smoked, and and I would smoke him with him on the road when we were traveling as a team. And but what we do. We'd go over there. We'd have breakfast in the morning, and we would get to a golf course and we'd play golf, and then we'd have lunch and he'd take a nap and then we'd play cards and then get up the next day and do it all over again. And uh, then he had his other friends that he was involved in some of the high stakes poker games and that kind of stuff. I wasn't involved there because well, frankly, I was rolling with a different crowd.
00:50:03
Speaker 3: That I hear you, brother, I hear you.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we had. He loved those Cuban cigars too. And when we were traveling with with the We Believe team, for example, we got into a couple of hotels where they had no smoking policy, and he diet to where it, ah, it was so cold outside. We might be in Philadelphia and the snow it and can't go outside and smoke, And he'd eventually just fire one up and smoking the room, and then the Warriors could get a bill for having to clean out the room and get the air to where they can rent the room back out again. But you know, he did all those kinds of things.
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Speaker 4: Hey, one quick, onek I gotta let you go. But it's so fun talking Nelly's stories. The is this a true story? Because it's been told by many people that that what Victor Alexander ordered like a cheeseburger right from room service or something. And Nelly, Uh, what do you do dress up as the as the server or something? Knock on the door? Is that a true story?
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Speaker 5: See, I wasn't there, Okay, so I can't. I cannot attest you. I've heard the same story. Do you know the stories getting a little bit changed over time?
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Speaker 3: They do they get him bellious?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but but I I you know, there's a good chance that that was true. He was likely to do anything.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Larry, thank thank you so much for the time and and and just like you, I choose to celebrate Nelly and it's it's a sad occasion, there's no question. But as we said, I don't think anybody lived a better life. Thank you so much for the insight. It is always our pleasure to have you on the show. And we'll talk to you soon.
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: You got it.
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