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rated. Correct, Like no, LSU probably gets rightly rated. 37 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:09.800 Like there are some of. 38 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:12.599 Those iconic ones. I would not say that those are underrated. 39 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:16.919 Those are ones that everyone sort of discusses. What would 40 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:19.400 be an underrated color scheme? 41 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:22.159 First of all, it should be pointed out for the 42 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:24.479 listeners that Garrett is a Texas A and M fan, 43 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:27.680 so he might be just kind of biased towards maroon. 44 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:30.560 So he sees Minnesota in that maroon and gold, and 45 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:33.240 he's just like, that's a great color scheme because he's 46 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:36.439 maroon and white. I do agree. I think it's a 47 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:40.680 good color scheme. I think one that's kind of criminally underserved, 48 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:42.759 and I'm kind of wearing it now sort of but 49 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:46.199 like brown and yellow like Wyoming, Wyoming. Yeah, I kind 50 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:48.960 of like that. I'm a huge black and orange guy, 51 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.360 like Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma State. 52 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:53.039 I love that. 53 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:57.080 So that's cool. I think under that's under used, though, 54 00:02:58.319 --> 00:02:58.919 what about one? 55 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:02.120 We're gonna see a lot more of North Dakota State. 56 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:05.560 And yellow, disgusting combination green. 57 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:08.960 That's why I brought it up. It's gonna stir up 58 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:10.840 some emotion one way or another. 59 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:14.800 Terrible, like I would rather die than wear those colors. 60 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:18.159 What wait, wait, wait, wait, oh Packers, is that what 61 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:19.639 you're Okay? 62 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:24.000 Okay, okay, sorry, Bears are moving to Indiana and now 63 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:28.199 Tom's all cranky about some NFC North rivalry. 64 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:30.599 You might be surprised by some of my thoughts about 65 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:33.599 the Bears moving to Indiana, Chip Patterson, Oh, you like it. 66 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:36.319 I don't think it's well do we really want to 67 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:36.960 get into it here? 68 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:37.919 Sure? 69 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:41.479 I don't think it's that terrible. I think if you 70 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:43.199 look at where the super Bowl was just played. It 71 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:46.240 was in Santa Clara, forty miles from San Francisco, home 72 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:49.199 of the San Francisco forty nine ers. They hosted a 73 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.759 Super Bowl. Everybody that came to town the media, were 74 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:55.080 they in Santa Clara or were they in San Francisco? 75 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:59.080 They were in San Jose, right bo in San Yeah. 76 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:03.039 So if if Indiana wants to raise its taxes to 77 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:05.919 build a stadium for the Bears, and then the Bears 78 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:09.120 want to host Super Bowls and turn the NCAA tournaments, 79 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:11.159 do you think the people that come to town are 80 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:13.000 going to be staying in ham in Indiana or will 81 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.759 they be coming to stay in Chicago? So Illinois will 82 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:18.480 get all the tourist revenue while Indiana pays the taxes. 83 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:21.199 I don't think it's that horrible for the state of Illinois. 84 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:27.160 That's hey, yeah, let's let's go. I look back to 85 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:33.240 color schemes. I so LSU often. You know another one 86 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:36.160 that I think gets discussed. Are we in on purple 87 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:39.199 across the board? Because I think TCU can give you 88 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:41.040 some good stuff. I know that's a lot of purple 89 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:44.360 and black, a lot of purple and silver. I can 90 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:46.800 I can roll with TCU as a as maybe an 91 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:48.240 underrated color scheme. 92 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:51.920 You know what I love. I'm wearing it now. The 93 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:56.560 sissy blue m hmm from UCLA. I like it Old 94 00:04:56.600 --> 00:05:00.360 miss when they do their light blue, I like Carolina's 95 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:02.959 Carolina blue, and they mix in a light blue, like 96 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:05.360 if there was just a color that's nice on the eyes, 97 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:08.079 easy to wear. Their gear can match with a lot 98 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:11.319 of different stuff. Those light blues I like a lot. 99 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:12.759 Although they are soft. 100 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:16.319 What about you know, we need Danny, We need more 101 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:19.680 turquoise and orange like the Miami Dolphins, just really really 102 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:21.879 soft colors where you show up and you're like, oh, 103 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:24.399 we're gonna kick this team can play in the cold. 104 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:28.959 Sneaky, sneaky use of a baby blue that I am 105 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:32.480 a fan of is two lane breaking it out. Blue 106 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:35.160 and green is not always what you think of, but 107 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:39.040 they are the wave and those are ocean friendly color. 108 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:41.120 I mean, ocean is different colors all over the world. 109 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:44.800 But you know, in general, you're blues and greens. You 110 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:45.240 you're not. 111 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:46.079 Sure that it would work. 112

00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.560 But to me, to my eye, absolutely maybe a little 113 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:50.600 underrated right there? 114 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:53.519 Any any other ones. 115 00:05:54.160 --> 00:06:00.720 Hot pink and neon green? We need more of that. Seabrook, 116 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:05.040 it would be the first college football team to adapt 117 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:05.759 those colors. 118 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:08.600 Before we jump into the big old bag of mail, 119 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:10.560 I'll take another one from the tailgate. This one's fun 120 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:14.399 a little bit more football related. The comment says, I've 121 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:18.600 long held that Texas would be better off if quinn 122 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:23.600 Ewers left after twenty twenty three, an Arch started the 123 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:28.800 twenty twenty four season after one year of Arch Manning starting. 124 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.759 Does this hold up or did Arch Manning need to 125 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:36.680 spend twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four on the bench. 126 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:43.480 I mean, they got to the semi finals with quinn Ewers, YEP, 127 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:46.360 and they nearly beat Ohio State before losing at the end. 128 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:49.480 As we saw Arch last year, like, it was not 129 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:53.560 exactly a smooth ride, Like it was a very slow start. 130 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:56.000 You could argue that if Arch starts twenty four, maybe 131 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:58.879 Texas doesn't get to the playoffs. They might lose a 132 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:01.480 game early they weren't expect and he did play quite 133 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:04.480 a bit. But still it's just I don't know. I 134 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:06.680 don't think there's any real difference. I think if you 135 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:08.480 look at this year, even if Arch had a year 136 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:10.639 of experience under the belt, he would still have been 137 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.439 playing in an offense behind a really bad offensive line. 138 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:17.879 I think also he probably would have left this year. 139 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:21.360 And not be back for twenty six to be in 140 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:24.319 Las Vegas in the National Championship game against Dante More 141 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:25.240 in Oregon. 142 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:29.959 Right, which is definitely happening in Booker technics happening. I 143 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:31.839 think he was going to play two full years, So 144 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:33.639 if you would have started earlier, I think he probably 145 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:34.560 would have left. 146 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:36.439 I think he would have been better in twenty twenty 147 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:38.240 five if he played in twenty twenty four. 148 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:39.600 For sure, definitely. 149 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:44.319 But he did play in twenty he started like three games. 150 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:48.199 I think Texas can still make the college football Playoff 151 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:52.079 if Arch Mating had started twenty twenty four, not Quinn Yours. 152 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:55.879 It is tough for me to get out of my mind. 153 00:07:56.360 --> 00:08:00.240 Quinn Yours throughout his whole career had some big throws 154 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:02.120 in big games. 155 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:02.759 I don't know. 156 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:06.879 If Michigan game Alabama, like on the road, those environments, 157 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:09.160 they might not win. They might not have made the playoffs. 158 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:11.839 Remember the archbeat Michigan and ann Arbor. 159 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:14.120 I don't know not and that was early in the 160 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:15.360 season too, so like. 161 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:19.560 Remember the Arizona State game. Some of those plays he 162 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:20.680 was making coming. 163 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:26.519 Out four down season saving. Yeah, big X factor in tangibles. 164 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:29.279 So how about this, I do not know if Texas 165 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:31.319 would have been better off. I think Arch would have 166 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:33.360 been better off. I think he would have played better 167 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:35.840 in twenty twenty five if he had gotten twenty twenty four. 168 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.159 And so that's where the head coaching decisions matter, right, 169 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:41.919 I mean, it's this was This was Steve Sarkisian's decision 170 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:44.799 on how he wanted to manage the quarterback position, how 171 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:48.080 they wanted to handle this, And it might not have 172 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:50.759 been the best thing for Arch Manning's twenty twenty five performance, 173 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:52.960 but it might have been the best thing for Texas 174 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:55.440 in general, especially now that we look at the rest 175 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:56.480 of that quarterback room. 176 00:08:56.879 --> 00:08:58.639 Arch comes back for twenty six. 177 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:01.240 Now you've got a bridge until our guy Da Bell 178 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:05.639 assumes the throne and wins three national championships for the Longhorns, 179 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:06.200 and has. 180 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:08.600 Long been established it's far more important to Chip Patterson 181 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:11.679 that Arch is doing well than Texas about Arch. 182 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:13.840 It's just my analysis here. 183 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:18.000 You're an Arch guy, your big Arch booster. 184 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:27.559 Arts don't need no booster, Kidden Arts don't need no booster. 185 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:28.080 All right. 186

00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:33.480 We discussed it a little bit yesterday. We dropped it 187 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:35.919 in there. So before we open up the big old 188 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:40.679 bag of mail, Mikey, can we head on down to 189 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:48.240 the mail room. 190 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:49.879 All right, let's dive in. 191 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:53.360 First of all, Danny, did you did you buy a 192 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:54.919 Kurt Signetti headset? 193 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:59.720 I did not. I've been on eBay because I've been 194 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:02.639 picked up some cards, you know, I've been up collectibles. 195 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:04.639 I've been very in on I got these new tops. 196 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:08.320 I'm looking for the Mickey Mantle Rookie fifty two Rookie. 197 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:13.000 Haven't pulled it yet, but I do have a Jeremy 198 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:15.519 Panya if you want. Anybody wants one of those. No, so, 199 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:17.720 I've been on them, but I've been on the collectibles. 200 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.799 This one set a new record for a headset. 201 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:23.080 What was it, one hundred and twelve thousand dollars? 202 00:10:23.159 --> 00:10:27.799 Right, yeah, I think the previous high was like ten thousand, 203 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:30.600 and it was like a Super Bowl headset. I think 204 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.279 was the what I saw there. 205 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:35.799 There's an allegation in the big old bag of mail. 206 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:38.399 That you you've got it, and that one of us 207 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:39.200 are going to get it. 208 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:41.440 Our friend dominated I think I believe it's the one 209 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:43.200 who came through with it. But that's not where this 210 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:43.840 question is. 211 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:46.759 Okay, So we've got the question that I want to 212 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:50.080 answer because we love our listeners who want to give 213 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:52.600 them the answer. I think there's also a larger discussion 214 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:54.120 as well, which is a little bit more of what 215 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:55.480 we've got here in the headline. 216 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:57.159 But question first. 217 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:01.480 From half a username Lincoln Coward Riley. 218 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:04.600 Okay, well we can. 219 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:07.840 Guess where this where this guy is a fan of 220 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:09.639 Notre Dame. Question. 221 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.840 Notre Dame generally gets blowback for special treatment while the 222 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:16.679 conferences are responsible for the collapse of the sport. 223 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.360 My question is what other schools other. 224 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:23.600 Than Notre Dame could have gone or stayed independent that

225 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:26.799 would have been better for the sport long term. Imagine 226 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:33.039 if Texas and USC were independent instead of ruining multiple conferences. 227 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:35.639 Now USC and Texas. 228 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.600 I still can't figure out which school this guy rouchel. 229 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:42.360 I know, I know, I know the US in Texas. 230 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:46.799 To me, while easy nominations for schools. 231 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:49.279 That could thrive as an independent also don't have the 232 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:54.360 interesting history of a Florida state, a Miami, a penn state, 233 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.000 of some of these schools that were independent, you know, 234 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:01.039 for for some time in a way that sort of 235 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.960 allowed us to see them rise to prominence with the 236 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:07.960 will schedule anybody anywhere type attitude. 237 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:12.039 So what schools could be independent now? 238 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:15.840 Or would the sport be better, as the listener suggests 239 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:19.039 if some of these schools had been independent instead of 240 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:21.639 jumping around in the conference consolidation. 241 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.480 Well, first of all, to the two schools, did he mentions? 242 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:27.799 And I assume he's an Oklahoma State fan. 243 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:27.879 You know? 244 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:32.480 But yeah, I like Texas has not been independent since 245 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:36.720 nineteen fourteen, and us see its like a founding member. Yeah, 246 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:42.639 always ever been independent, So I I don't know. I 247 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:45.600 would also point out to this person that Oklahoma left 248 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:47.919 the Big Twelve at the same exact time Texas did. 249 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:55.080 It's a it's a tough question to answer because you 250 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:58.080 have to remember why these teams joined the conferences to 251 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:01.799 begin with. Like we talked about it a little bit 252 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:04.600 on the show, either yesterday or Monday. The NCAA versus 253 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:09.039 Oklahoma lawsuit in nineteen eighty three that led to conferences 254 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:13.399 being able to pool together their television deals and sell 255 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:17.120 them themselves. Well, it's not a coincidence that in nineteen 256 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:21.679 eighty three there were still twenty three independent programs remaining, 257 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:23.440 and there were some big names among them too, like 258 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:26.639 let me see here, Notre Dame obviously was one, Penn 259 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:32.000 State was one, Virginia Tech, Miami, Boston College at the time, 260 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:37.960 West Virginia, pitt Florida State, Syracuse, South Carolina, Louisville. These 261 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:40.799 are all Rutgers. These are all teams that were still 262 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:43.879 independent in nineteen eighty three, and then conferences said we're 263 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:47.799 going to sell TV rights. Suddenly that's no longer the gates. 264 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:50.360 A bunch of schools start joining conferences. So nineteen ninety 265 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.840 two comes around. Which was that the Bowl Alliance or 266 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:54.639 the Bull Coalition, which one came first? 267 00:13:55.679 --> 00:14:01.679 What the Alliance Alliance is right before BC That is 268 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:05.240 the last stage before BCS. 269 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:07.639 Which for our younger people who don't understand what that is, 270 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:09.840 that was before the BCS. It was we're going to 271 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:11.759 try to put the one versus two together and then 272 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:15.240 also we're going to take conference champions and pit them 273 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:18.320 together in other big bowl games. So now if you're 274 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:19.799 not in the conference, you're not gonna be playing in 275 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:21.519 the Sugar Bowl, You're not gonna be playing the Orange Bowl, 276 00:14:21.559 --> 00:14:23.559 You're not gonna be you know, suddenly you've got only 277 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:28.000 fifteen independence. Nineteen ninety five comes with the Bowl Coalition, 278 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:30.879 which is just an advancement of the Bowl Alliance, and 279 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.799 there's twelve independence. Then nineteen ninety eight comes and the 280 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:39.320 BCS begins, and there's only eight independence. So, with the 281 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:43.759 way the rules were going at the time, staying independent 282 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:47.039 unless you had a very very very huge brand and 283 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:49.440 your own television deal and only one school had that 284 00:14:49.559 --> 00:14:52.639 at the time, was not a very good bid chance 285 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:54.639 for you. But since Notre Dame had all that kind 286 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:56.519 of leverage of being Notre Dame, they were able to, 287 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:00.279 you know, kind of work their way into those TV deals. So, 288 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:02.799 like you could say, Penn State maybe could stay independent. 289 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:06.360 But if you are Penn State and you're independent, is 290 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.399 your schedule as attractive as it is in the Big ten? 291 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.039 Like are you able to sell your team to a network? 292 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:13.519 Are they going to pay a whole lot of money 293 00:15:13.519 -->

00:15:15.519 for you? If you're Florida State, are they going to 294 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:17.799 pay a whole lot of money for you just on 295 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:20.279 your own? And also, there are only so many networks 296 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:22.600 to go around. Streaming services weren't a thing yet, So 297 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:26.039 NBC's got all their money in Notre Dame. ABC's got 298 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:27.960 the Big Ten and the SEC. Why are they going 299 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:30.240 to pay for a program? Is CBS at the time 300 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:32.360 going to pay for its own program and be like 301 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:36.039 the NBC for Notre Dame. I just don't think that 302 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:38.480 if you look back at the way the landscape was, 303 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:41.519 it made sense for any of these programs to say independent. 304 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:43.519 And I think that now thirty years later you look 305 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:45.279 back and say, I wonder if how it would be, 306 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:49.679 You'd probably be dead pretty much. You'd be in a 307 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:51.200 G five league right now. 308 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.720 What do you think about buds buds pitch? 309 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:59.519 If Penn State had joined the Big East instead of 310 00:15:59.559 --> 00:16:02.279 the Big Ten, what would the ripple effects of that 311 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:02.840 had been? 312 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:06.240 So Penn State joined the Big Ten in ninety three, correct? 313 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:06.840 Correct? 314 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:10.600 So in nineteen ninety two, the Big East. 315 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:14.080 Was Virginia Tech, Miami. 316 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:18.000 Miami, Syracuse, Rutgers, BC West, Virginia, Pitt, Virginia Tech, and Temple. 317 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:21.879 I think the pitch is, does the Big East still 318 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:24.600 get raided, you know, in the way that they did 319 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:28.840 in the early two thousands by the ACC Do they 320 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:31.000 hold on? And then all of a sudden you've got 321 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:34.000 a Penn State in Miami, which had their own rivalry 322 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:37.600 coming out of the nineteen eighties, like Penn State in 323 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:40.519 Miami or your premier programs Beamers got Virginia Tech on 324 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:40.919 the rise. 325 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:42.600 Does the Big East still exist today? 326 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:46.399 Because while this conversation is about independence, my mind immediately 327 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.480 goes to smaller conferences would be better for the sport. 328 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:53.039 I don't think more independence would necessarily be the best 329 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:56.519 thing for the sport. But if we still had smaller 330 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:00.679 conferences and more regional conferences, then yeah, I would be 331 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:01.399 a fan of that. 332 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:08.759 Yeah. But also I still think it maybe it takes 333 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:11.519 a little longer, or maybe it looks a little different. 334 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:12.799 We would have still gotten to converse. 335 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:15.079 I still think we're all coming to the stage. We're 336 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:18.000 coming to it, just it looked different getting there, like 337 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:21.720 there's simply too much money involved for it not to 338 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:23.160 eventually get here. 339 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:27.079 Corey, a pittfan, points out in the tailgate, people forget 340 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:28.920 Penn State tried to join the Big East, but the 341 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:34.440 basketball schools blocked them because their basketball was horrid. Here 342 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:38.519 we are what forty thirty some odd years later, Buddy, 343 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:39.440 I got news for you. 344 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:42.759 Ain't nothing changed by that basketball program, And. 345 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:44.599 I'm going to again. I will once again read the 346 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:46.880 list of the Big East schools in nineteen ninety two, 347 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:48.440 and you tell me how many of them are still 348 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:55.319 in the Big East. Miami, Syracuse, Rutgers, Boston College, West Virginia, 349 00:17:55.480 --> 00:18:01.160 Pitt Virginia Tech Temple. Not a single one. I think 350 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:02.319 eating Yukon. 351 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:05.240 I think if Texas wanted to be independent, Texas could 352 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:05.839 be independent. 353 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:08.519 Yes, they tried to be pretty much. They had their 354 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:11.519 own network net work, Yeah, but their network didn't exactly 355 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:16.799 like work out. I mean, there's a reason they joined 356 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:20.400 the SEC. They were kind of trying to be independent. 357 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:24.559 So I don't know, Ohio State. 358 00:18:28.920 --> 00:18:32.519 In a vacuum. Yeah, but you now you've got to like, 359 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:34.640 if you're not in the Big Ten, does Michigan still 360 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:35.519 want to play you every year? 361 00:18:35.559 --> 00:18:35.599 Like? 362 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:37.839 That's the other aspect of this. Are you still able 363 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:40.559 to schedule enough games that are attractive to a television 364 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:42.359 partner to get you the money that you're getting as 365 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:44.960 a Big ten school? Because I mean you see the 366 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:47.160 amount of money SEC and Big Ten schools are getting 367 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:50.839 on an annual basis. That's not you can't

just go 368 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:53.319 independent and automatically guarantee yourself you're going to get that 369 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:53.960 from somebody. 370 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:58.039 But don't you think Ohio State could command that? I 371 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:00.920 did too, and I think Texas might be able to command. 372 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:03.240 I mean, they had their own TV network, you know, 373 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:04.640 which did you kill? 374 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:09.720 The Longhorn Network, Danny that blood on your hands. He 375 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:11.319 took it down from the inside. 376 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:15.759 I do. Florida State is such a new brand, you know, 377 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:19.480 they don't have the long tradition, you know. I think 378 00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:22.440 you know, when all the conference sewing was going around, 379 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:24.519 I think that was floated around there. Florida State should 380 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:28.200 just go independent, right and yeah, it would have been great. 381 00:19:28.279 --> 00:19:30.960 The buyout became, you know, very cost prohibitive. That's why 382 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:34.119 they're still in the ACC. But I don't know. Do 383 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:36.079 you think they're in the same boat as Ohio State 384 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:38.440 and Texas? I don't either. That's why I don't know 385 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:41.119 if they command it the way that I think it's 386 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:43.279 a very select group. 387 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:47.400 I think the best answer this question, as fun as 388 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:49.960 it is to contemplate, is the market tells you the answer. 389 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:53.799 There's nothing stopping these schools from going independent if they 390 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:55.519 felt that they could make more money doing so. 391 00:19:57.039 --> 00:20:02.279 Allab So, wait, hold on, we do have buyout? 392 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:02.599 Hold on? 393 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:05.160 Is it SEC doesn't have a buyout or Big ten 394 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:07.440 doesn't have a buyout, one of them still has a buyout, 395 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:08.519 I think. 396 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:10.559 But I'm saying they could. They could right now with 397 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:12.799 the conferences, their TV deals would come to an n 398 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:15.559 in twenty thirty one. They could come out and say 399 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:21.240 in twenty thirty two were going independent, but for some 400 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:22.079 reason they don't. 401 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:29.759 Alabama could. I think Alabama, Yeah, they probably. 402 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:30.880 I'm just starting to think. 403 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:35.240 Would Alabama pull in the kind of television ratings if 404 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:39.880 they weren't playing other SEC schools. I mean, if you 405 00:20:39.880 --> 00:20:40.279 look at. 406 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:44.000 The post Nick Saban, like Nick Saban elevated them to 407 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:46.839 where I do think pre Nick Saban, I don't think 408 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:50.440 they could have, but post that dynasty, I think they 409 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:54.160 would command. I think I. 410 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:57.000 Feel like SEC schools need each other in a way that. 411 00:20:58.000 --> 00:20:59.960 Oh, because that's that's the selling point. 412 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:02.960 It's not any one of them individually, it's all of 413 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:04.480 their rivalries against each other. 414 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:05.119 Mm hmm. 415 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:07.000 I think. I mean, and I think that's a good thing. 416 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:10.240 I'm not saying like, don't take that. I think it's 417 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:12.200 a very good thing that they need each other. You see, 418 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:14.720 like the TV ratings for these games, they're incredible because 419 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.640 every single fan base is passionate about their school. So 420 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:21.599 you get two fan bases watching every single game because 421 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:23.720 they care that damn much, and it does well for TV. 422 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:26.720 But if Alabama suddenly has to play more games against 423 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:30.240 Memphis or other programs, do they get the same TV ratings? 424 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:34.039 I don't know, Georgia. 425 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:36.839 I'm just I'm trying to go down the list of 426 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:41.480 like literally the the programs who've got the most team 427 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:44.119 subscribers on our app, you know, like they're just like 428 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:47.000 who's who's signing up, who's clicking, you know, like that 429 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:50.200 using that as sort of a launching point data set. 430 00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:55.039 It's Notre Dame, it's Alabama, it'sc. 431 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:01.400 You don't think that West Coast pulling in a whole 432 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:04.039 region of the country. 433 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:04.880 They would need. 434 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:08.279 To remember there was the conversation when USC and Michigan 435 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:12.599 were not signing on to that. I can't remember whether 436 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:14.559 it's equity or capital and I don't feel like having 437 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:16.359 finance bros call me on it. But remember there was 438 00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:18.319 like a deal those presented at the Big Ten they 439 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:21.480 ended up not agreeing to, and the reporting suggested that 440 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:24.640 USC and Michigan were in lockstep to not agree to 441 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:27.720 this new deal, either an influx of equity or capital 442 00:22:27.839

--> 00:22:32.359 or something. But there was in that conversation, well what 443 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:34.720 if USC and Michigan just go independent together? 444 00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:36.960 And that's where I think. 445 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:40.400 USC could break off with a club of other traditional powers. 446 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:42.880 I don't think USC could step out on its own 447 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:47.039 and be like, yep, Notre Dame's independent, Yukon's independent, and 448 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:48.279 we are too, Babe. 449 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:49.440 I don't think that they. 450 00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:53.279 I don't think that they would have the commands to 451 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:55.359 be able to match what they're getting from the Big 452 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:56.519 ten and that television deal. 453 00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:59.440 And my answer to whether USC could do it would 454 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:01.240 be member. I don't know what was it this year 455 00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:03.319 or last year when Penn State was on the road 456 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:07.039 against USC. It was the CBS game, right, yes, and 457 00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:10.880 you know big games. Penn State, two huge brands, two 458 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:14.519 brands were talking about going independent. CBS broadcast was very 459 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:17.519 tight on the field for some reason. We weren't seeing 460 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:21.119 a lot of the seats and I oh like answers 461 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:23.359 the question of whether USC could afford to go independent 462 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:25.519 or not. As long as they're going twelve and zero 463 00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:27.400 every year, USC could afford to go independent. But if 464 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:29.359 they go eight and four, they can't afford. 465 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:34.599 It, and also to pull back Danny, to pull back 466 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:38.440 my data set, the Wisconsin Badgers have more fans that 467 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:43.480 have opted in for like alerts and updates and things 468 00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:47.680 than USC has so and no one's I mean, I'm 469 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:50.480 not sending a shot at Madison, but nobody's out here 470 00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:52.279 making the argument that Wisconsin's at the top of the 471 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:53.799 list are ready to go independent. 472 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:55.960 That's another one that I think is hooked in. 473 00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:58.240 So if we were to make the list, is it 474 00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:02.960 just Ohio State and Texas, Michigan Michigan. 475 00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:08.200 Yeah, I think everybody else needs somebody else. 476 00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:12.000 Nothing wrong with needing somebody. 477 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:15.200 Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. The because there's another 478 00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:19.640 arm of this. The ESPN Stan Wetzel on the College 479 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:22.759 Game Day podcast made the comment that it was told 480 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:27.160 to him that the Ohio State Michigan game alone has 481 00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:31.039 a one hundred million dollar valuation, and I. 482 00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:32.480 Sounds right to me. 483 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:35.880 But I would add on to that in the conversation 484 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:39.279 that you can't make the whole plane out of the 485 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:42.160 black box. You can't like, if Ohio State and Michigan 486 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.640 played each other three times a year, it's not worth 487 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:48.160 three hundred million dollars right. The reason why Ohio State 488 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:50.839 Michigan is worth a hundred million dollars. Is because it 489 00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:53.480 is at the end of this season. Where do they have, 490 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:56.240 you know, gone through this whole path to line up 491 00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:59.240 at this final meeting point at the last week of 492 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:02.359 the regular season, and that is the game and carries 493 00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:05.839 that valuation because of being in the Big Ten and 494 00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:08.440 because of the common opponents, and because of their pursuit 495 00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:09.799 of a Big Ten championship. 496 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:11.920 That while that is. 497 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:15.240 True, and you can look at other teams and programs 498 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:17.599 that have high valuations in a vacuum and on a 499 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:20.559 spreadsheet to try and think that you're just gonna be 500 00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:23.759 able to replicate that without the current environment, I think 501 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:26.599 is I think is a little bit off. 502 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:28.319 But I'm not great with numbers. 503 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:29.559 We've discussed this often. 504 00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:35.799 I think the yep, what finish to finish the entire conversation. 505 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:38.960 In twenty twenty six, there will be like one hundred 506 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:42.079 and forty schools at the FBS level now everybody's jumping 507 00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:45.240 into the FBS. Only two of them will be independent. 508 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:46.920 There's a reason for it. 509 00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:48.839 Yeah, Notre Dame and Yukon. 510 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:53.480 It's not fun in the wilderness. 511 00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:57.119 Joey, what about Duke or basketball. I could see Duke 512 00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:58.920 basketball going independent. 513 00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:03.480 Just to get away from North Carolina because they're so 514 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:04.079 scared of them. 515 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.799 They're so scared all the violence. 516 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:12.440 The violence from those Baby Blue

boosters don't get They 517 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:14.160 don't want to get any of their coaches hurt from 518 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:17.440 those violent tar heel fans. 519 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:20.519 Old Jesse Shire Jesse. 520 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:25.920 Coming up on the other side, more of your questions 521 00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:35.960 and our answers. Nukes back here on the cover three podcast. Uh, 522 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:38.519 let's let's sort of keep the conversation going from the 523 00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:43.960 big old bag of male. This one a former independent 524 00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:47.279 football program that joined the American Athletic Conference a while 525 00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:50.559 back before their arrivals from Navy did. Because his Apple 526 00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:54.200 user name is Navy twenty twenty six, Natty Hey, guys 527 00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:57.440 love the podcast. As a die hard Navy fan, I 528 00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:02.000 have witnessed firsthand how culture and continuity can be a 529 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:06.240 massive difference maker. Obviously, they play a G five schedule 530 00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:09.920 and had athletes they don't normally have, like Eli Heidenreich, 531 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:14.359 Blake Corvath, and Landon Robinson. But Navy had back to 532 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.880 back ten win seasons with players that largely had no 533 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:19.599 other D one offers coming. 534 00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:20.279 Out of high school. 535 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:23.880 I know it is naive in this era to think 536 00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:26.799 you can just keep your players and have continuity, but 537 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:32.920 I think that culture specifically is hugely undervalued nationally. I 538 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:36.799 think picking coaches and specifically recruiting players that boost team 539 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.359 culture could be higher up, should be higher up on 540 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:44.960 teams priority lists. Indiana and Georgia are teams that come 541 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.400 to mind that have benefited from elite culture. I'd love 542 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.559 to hear y'all's thoughts, and thanks for doing what y'all do. 543 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:57.680 Are continuity and culture undervalued in the modern era. 544 00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:01.680 No, I think they're overval at this point. I think 545 00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:03.519 they get thrown about so much that we kind of 546 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.599 just you know. I think in a transfer portal era like, 547 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:12.480 continuity is huge, but I don't think it's that important 548 00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.160 because Indiana, you could talk about their culture, but was 549 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:17.680 their continuity. All those players came from James Madison, like 550 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.640 it was mostly a new roster and they completely transformed 551 00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:25.279 the team around. So I get what he's saying, and 552 00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:27.279 I think that culture is important, but I also think 553 00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.200 culture is often a byproduct. Like you never talk about 554 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:32.599 the culture of a two to ten team. We're always 555 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:34.759 talking about the great culture of the playoff teams or 556 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:36.799 the teams competing their conference titles. It's like, if they're 557 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:38.559 two and ten, it must be something wrong with their culture. 558 00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.599 It's not that they suck. So I don't know. I 559 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.119 would counter it. It certainly probably seems that way a 560 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:47.839 lot more when you're following a service academy because of 561 00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:50.039 just the way that those programs are still built and 562 00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:52.680 put together compared to the rest of the sport. But 563 00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.319 I would also counter by saying that Armies culture is 564 00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:58.440 a lot better when they have a very good quarterback, 565 00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:02.799 so is Navies. I think you're more quarterback dependent as 566 00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:04.920 a service academy than you are anything else. 567 00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:08.559 I think that you could look at I think you 568 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:11.240 could look at Navy as a Navy fan and believe 569 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.359 that player development and continuity gives you a little bit 570 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:16.000 of an edge. 571 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.160 I think. So I'll push back on Tom a little 572 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.000 bit and granted, the teams that I picked to win 573 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:28.359 the National to go to the National Championship Game both 574 00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:32.039 had a lot of continuity. It just underperformed. But I 575 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:36.279 would also say, like coaches value it, it's just harder 576 00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:39.920 than ever to get it because of the transient nation 577 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:43.839 notion of the game. But I do think Kirk Signetty 578 00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:46.160 did a good job and a lot of those players 579 00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:48.640 that transferred him from James Madison. It was their second 580 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.720 year at the program when they were starting to come 581 00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:53.920 together and then they kind of fit some pieces, and 582 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:58.000 Fernando Mendoza was a huge part of that, as was 583 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.480 Pat Cougan from Notre Dame. Like they added to it. 584 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.400 But I do think the culture of that team, like 585 00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:08.440 when you talk to guys and was it media days 586

00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:11.079 and asked Aidan Fisher about it, you know, and he's 587 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:12.759 I asked him how many stars he was? He was 588 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:15.720 like zero. You know, I think there's something about that 589 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:20.519 where there weren't a lot of superstars on that team. 590 00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:25.640 They were more guys who came together collectively, including Mendoza, 591 00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.519 who kind of checked their ego at the door and 592 00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:30.960 were willing to do whatever it took to win. And 593 00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.240 I remember I had a conversation with coach Boalden before 594 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:34.839 he passed away. It was about, you know, two months 595 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:37.480 before he died. I was sitting with him and it 596 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.559 was right at the transition of portal and players getting 597 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:43.640 paid and his he was like, I don't know how 598 00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:47.680 coaches are going to build a team, you know, build 599 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.880 a team when you have so many guys worried about 600 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.839 individuals and making money. And I think that's the trick. 601 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:54.880 I mean, and you just have to do it in 602 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:58.000 eight months some six months with some of the players 603 00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:02.920 that are there. So I think it's overvalued from the 604 00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.240 standpoint of it's really hard to get. And just because 605 00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:07.519 the team's been together for three or four years doesn't 606 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.200 mean they're automatically going to be good. But the coaches 607 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:14.799 that can get that culture and camaraderie quickly, those are 608 00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:15.960 the teams that I think are going to be the 609 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:16.759 most successful. 610 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.960 I agree with you. I just wonder if we're confusing 611 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:24.000 one word for another, Like we talk about culture. 612 00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:27.519 Well, I think culture and continuity are different. 613 00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:30.920 I agree. But like Danny mentioned the continuity of Indiana 614 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.839 and having all those returning starters, but all those returning 615 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:36.160 starters went ten and two the year before and lost 616 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.960 every good team they played, and then the new quarterback 617 00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.559 came in for the first year, won the Heisman and 618 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.400 they won a national title. So that that wasn't continuity. 619 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.079 That was a brand new player that led you to 620 00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:52.359 a national title. I think that more important than

continuity 621 00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:57.160 is just experience. I mean, you look at Indiana's roster, 622 00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:59.599 it's a veteran roster. You look at Miami's roster, it 623 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:01.559 was a roster. You look at a lot of these 624 00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:07.160 teams veteran rosters. Ohio State had a younger, inexperienced quarterback. 625 00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:10.640 They suffered the price for it when he didn't, you know, 626 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:12.359 because he didn't he hadn't really been through a whole 627 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:13.880 lot of hell of a lot of battles because they 628 00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:16.759 kind of coasted through most of the regular season. So 629 00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:21.119 I think more experience is better than continuity. I don't 630 00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.640 care if you've been here the last three years, but 631 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.440 have you been playing for four? I think that's far 632 00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:27.119 more valuable. 633 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:32.839 It is, as the Tailgate has pointed out, the question 634 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.920 came in I think maybe two weeks ago to discuss 635 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:37.599 the words culture in Georgia football. 636 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:38.680 In the same sentence on it. 637 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:40.880 A great day for it, Well, great day for it 638 00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:44.480 on the morning where we've got another traffic violation I 639 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.519 believe has come across the desk. I have not not 640 00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:50.839 reached out to the legal sources around Athens to find 641 00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:51.680 out the details. 642 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.160 Unfortunately, I've become numb to these headlines. 643 00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:59.160 But yeah, but that's the retention piece, right, Like that 644 00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:03.599 is where Kirby Smart beliefs that if we recruit well 645 00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:07.960 out of high school and if we invest in retaining them, 646 00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:10.599 then we will build them up. They will play together 647 00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.640 and you know, we will have a team that after 648 00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:17.119 spending years in our program, which might be playing with 649 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:20.200 each other, but it also just might be understanding the 650 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.279 message from the coaches and what we want to do 651 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:23.039 and how we want. 652 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.920 To handle business. That not having to spend time in 653 00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:27.720 the spring retraining. 654 00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:30.960 Because yeah, I do think culture, like a lot of 655 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:33.640 college sports, is a year to year proposition. Because you 656 00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.839 know who had a great culture with transfers Texas Tech 657 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:41.079 and Joey maguire talked about how David Bailey, who just 658 00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:46.200 showed up, helped set the standard for that defensive line, 659 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.359 and that was just you've got to find these individuals. 660 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.880 You've got to find these fits if you want to 661 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.319 be able to do it. I don't you know the 662 00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.720 question was this culture undervalued? I think culture is more 663 00:33:56.720 --> 00:34:00.839 important than ever. It just doesn't necessarily always come in 664 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.799 a cookie cutter fashion. That when you've got the transient 665 00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:07.359 nature of these rosters, you need to have those couple 666 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:11.840 of guys that are experienced or simply have a voice 667 00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.119 that the whole locker room listens to. I mean, it 668 00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:20.320 is ridiculous to assume that Bryce Underwood was the biggest 669 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:24.000 voice in that locker room, right, highest paid player. 670 00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:24.159 On the team. 671 00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:27.679 But you just showed up right. You know, That's that's 672 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:29.440 where he's got to grow into that role. 673 00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.920 And I think that that's when we hear coaches talk 674 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:34.679 about the development of the you talk about the quarterback, 675 00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.840 the development of the quarterback, like how being more vocal, 676 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:41.280 taking on a leadership role. Not everybody leads the same, 677 00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.519 but I think culture is more important than ever than 678 00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:47.800 where we are right now. Getting everybody was alignment, pulling 679 00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.400 on the rope, you know, all those things I think 680 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:54.599 are huge in a me over we era that is 681 00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:56.800 going on throughout all of sports. 682 00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:59.400 I mean, Florida State is a great example of a 683 00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.360 program that has tried to find that culture through the 684 00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:05.039 transfer portal. And when they had a Jared Verse and 685 00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:08.119 a Brandon Fisk and a Jordan Travis, even though Travis 686 00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.400 was there, but you pull in some of these guys, 687 00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:11.880 you get the right culture. 688 00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:12.480 It can work. 689 00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:14.159 But then they try to go back to it for 690 00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:16.199 a couple of years, and that's when I think when 691 00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:18.440 you face adversity, that's when you find out what the 692 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.039 culture is in the locker room. And unfortunately for Mike 693

00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:24.000 Norvell and Florida State, you found out, Oh, these guys 694 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:25.599 aren't really going to go out there and fight. As 695 00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:28.480 soon as they're out of the ACC title hunt or 696 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.559 they're out of the mix, like all of a sudden, 697 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:34.280 they start showing up for a paycheck. I think, wait, 698 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:36.880 go ahead, Tom. 699 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:38.480 Would we be better off if we instead of using 700 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:43.280 the word culture we just used identity? Sure, Like, you're 701 00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.079 not really building a culture as much as you have 702 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.360 an identity for your program and the type of player 703 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:50.199 that fits it. So continuity isn't as important as much 704 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:51.840 as it's this is the type of guy we want 705 00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:52.239 in here. 706 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:57.280 Well, culture, I think is also expectations, like these are 707 00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.400 the sets of like a culture is. You're right, culture 708 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.079 is overused and sometimes misused, I would say, But to me, 709 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:06.679 one of the things that comes from culture is like, hey, 710 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:10.679 our culture is that this is the standard standards and expectations. 711 00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:13.599 This is this is how we handle our business. This 712 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:15.639 is the expectation of the way you're going to behave. 713 00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.239 If you do not meet that standard or meet those expectations, 714 00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:22.559 there's going to be some kind of consequence from it, 715 00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:25.079 Like there's going to be some sort of balancing and 716 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:27.800 where that comes from. That's that's the decision of a 717 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.360 coaching staff and of a locker room, right, I guess 718 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:30.800 are you? 719 00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:33.159 There could be good cultures that work both ways. 720 00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.880 But I think that has a great culture it does. 721 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:37.199 Right. 722 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:38.280 How's that working? 723 00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:41.880 Develop and find? 724 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.679 You got to find the perfect mix. You got to 725 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:48.800 find the perfect blend of talent and buy in call 726 00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:50.280 all of it. I mean there's a bunch of terms 727 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.719 you could use for it, and everybody's searching for it, 728 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:54.079 which shows you how hard it. 729 00:36:54.000 --> 00:37:01.079 Is to acquire and also the number of time that 730 00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:06.280 the narrative can not connect to the reality within a lot. 731 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:09.360 I mean, it's just you can think everything's all great 732 00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:12.000 and that this is like the most heartwarming team ever. 733 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:14.760 You get a little bit closer and a little bit 734 00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:19.400 closer things are not always what they what they may seem. 735 00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:21.880 One last piece here, since the question did come from 736 00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:25.960 a diehard put self proclaimed diehard Navy fan, I do 737 00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:29.519 think that where the American athletic conference sits in the 738 00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:31.760 food chain of the talent pecking order. 739 00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.280 Navy might have an advantage against their conference. 740 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:36.760 You mentioned the quarterback. 741 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:37.840 I think that's fair. 742 00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:42.880 But I think that Navy's continuity, culture, consistency, whatever you 743 00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.440 want to call it, compared to the rest of that conference, 744 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:50.639 which for the most part just gets rated, you know, 745 00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:54.400 but the very best players, that probably allows Navy to 746 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:57.639 be closing the gap a little bit with you know, 747 00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:00.760 other schools where their player might not have had the 748 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.000 same recruiting profile as a Navy player, but that's allowed 749 00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:05.199 them to close the talent gap. 750 00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:05.480 There. 751 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.519 An excellent observation, excellent theory. But I think we'll have 752 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:10.800 to wait until next year when that quarterback and that 753 00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.400 Eli Heidenreich and all those guys, the experienced guys that 754 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:16.119 they had are no longer there and it's a whole 755 00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:18.079 lot of new faces and new places. We'll see if 756 00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:20.679 they can that culture wins out again. 757 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:23.199 I trust our troops. 758 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:30.639 No, you don't. You bet against them constantly, Comrade Danny 759 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.519 over here, I was. 760 00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:37.679 I looked at Caden Curry last year as like a 761 00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.559 little little nugget to file away in terms of you know, 762 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:42.400 we talked about Ohio State all the time. 763 00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.239 Oh, you just roll out another five star, roll out 764 00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:45.000 another five star. 765 00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:50.320 That's continuity, that's player development, you know, that's experience somebody 766 00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:53.599 that sticks around for a couple of years. So in 767 00:38:53.679 -->

00:38:56.159 all the like plus minuses the way we look at 768 00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:58.639 these teams all the time, I was, okay, Ohio State, 769 00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:00.880 not only are they recruit rooting at the very top 770 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:03.719 of the game, competing for championships. You're right, an inexperienced 771 00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.960 quarterback probably hurt them in the Big Ten Championship and 772 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.760 in the College Football Playoff, But the overall health of 773 00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:13.800 the program still has guys that want to stick around, 774 00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.159 work hard, get better, and then when the when the 775 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.079 light is green, they're ready to go. 776 00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:21.760 So it's a good point from Ozzie too. We see 777 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.960 a lot of times the staff gets Pilford because you know, 778 00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:26.920 you win a championship. That's one of the reasons I 779 00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:29.480 think it was huge in Indiana's bringing back their coordinators, 780 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.800 you know, and Mars been with him for a long time. 781 00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:34.320 I mean they go back all the way to Elon, 782 00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.119 you know, and James Madison. I mean they've they've been 783 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.800 together for a long time. So again, that kind of 784 00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:45.239 goes to whatever term you want to use, continuity, culture, mindset, scheme, 785 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:47.639 all of it being on the same page. I think 786 00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:49.480 that helps a ton of the coaching staff too. It's 787 00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:50.599 a good point by Ozzie. 788 00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:54.480 Congratulations to Bryant Haynes Broyles Award winner for the top 789 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:59.159 assistant in all of college football. Yep, Mario holds on 790 00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:01.880 to Shannon Dawson, Corey Heatherman as well. So both of 791 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:05.679 our national championship competitors, you know, will be We'll be 792 00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:06.519 bringing it back. 793 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:12.239 I have a mail bag question, yeah, from Canel Carbreakers 794 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:18.159 thirteen in the chat. So did you guys see the report. 795 00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:22.320 I'm sure you probably did. Fernando Mendoza, Oh yes, this 796 00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:26.239 close to going to Georgia, he said. He actually tried 797 00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:31.440 to call Kirby Smart to commit, couldn't get through. Slept 798 00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:35.119 on it tonight, said God protected me. Opened up the 799 00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:41.599 door to Indiana. The question, does Georgia are they holding 800 00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:45.800 up a national championship trophy if Fernando Mendoza was the 801 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:50.639 quarterback and not Gunner Stockton, Yes, you. 802 00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:54.679 Probably, I'll say for sure, Indiana ain't. 803 00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:58.440 Yeah, I mean I just I think that and that 804 00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:00.920 is not a knock to gunnerstock or even that whether 805 00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:05.039 Gunner Stockton could win a national championship at Georgia. I 806 00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:09.599 still think Gunner Stockton could win a national championship at Georgia, 807 00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:10.440 But the. 808 00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:13.440 I don't I didn't think Gunner Stockton was at all 809 00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:16.239 part of the problem. He played great in some of 810 00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:19.880 their big games. Even in their loss against Bama, he 811 00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.559 played pretty well. They had the big drop pass in 812 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:26.920 the second half. I think the defense was the issue. 813 00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:29.880 So I don't know if it does change anything. 814 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:33.679 I don't think Gunner was a very problem for Georgia. 815 00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:35.960 I don't think he was enough of a difference maker 816 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.639 for Georgia. And I think Mendoza could have been a 817 00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:42.039 difference maker. So when your defense wasn't playing up to 818 00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:44.760 the standard that we've expected from Georgia in recent years, 819 00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:48.199 I think Mendoza could have lifted you above that offensively. 820 00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:52.559 And I do think Stockton he is limited as a passer. 821 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:55.639 Yeah, I think that. 822 00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:01.440 I think the quarterback who had more touch than incompletions 823 00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:04.199 in those first rounds of college football playoff. 824 00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:06.880 Competition, like I just I think he's special. 825 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:08.639 I mean, that's the reason why he's gonna be the 826 00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:11.480 first overall pick in the NFL draft. It's probably gonna 827 00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:13.440 be starting Week one of the NFL season. 828 00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:15.840 He got a lot better. 829 00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.599 Would he have had the same I don't know, Like 830 00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:21.000 what would if he he have had the same drive? 831 00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.599 You know, he sometimes goes to fit, you know, I mean, 832 00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:25.519 like all the stuff we're talking about. How does he 833 00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:26.719 fit in that locker room? 834 00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:27.280 You know? 835 00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:31.119 How does he develop as a passer. I mean, Mike 836 00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:33.519 Bobo's taking a lot of heat. How does he work? 837 00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:34.960 Work in that system? 838 00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:41.920 First thing Fernando does is get a carpool going

does boys, 839 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:44.559 We're all gonna drive together. We're gonna get into We're 840 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.039 gonna get buddy system going, four of us in a car, 841 00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:50.159 gonna come to practice every day. We're gonna drive the 842 00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:50.840 speed limit. 843 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:55.239 And I was thinking about it, and I was doing 844 00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:57.760 an analysis, and it's all about eliminating the variables and 845 00:42:57.760 --> 00:42:59.840 if too many of our players are getting suspended because 846 00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:02.400 of carpools. What I did was I got a sixteen 847 00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:04.679 pass at your van, I got my CEO license, and. 848 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:06.480 I decided we're driving the offense to school. 849 00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:08.719 Okay, I'm gonna drive us around everywhere, and we're not 850 00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:09.639 gonna get explended. 851 00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:12.639 Yeah, that's how they win the national championship. 852 00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:18.039 You know what Kirby needs to do. He needs to 853 00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:21.159 buy all his players tesla's. Because I have a daughter 854 00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:23.679 who has a heavy foot. She's already gotten a ticket. 855 00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:26.239 We've already had to take it to court. She drives 856 00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:28.199 my old Tesla. But you know what I have on it. 857 00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:30.960 It has a top speed that you can drive, so 858 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.119 you can actually limit how fast she can go. 859 00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.320 He needs to get them all back, Danny, just set 860 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:36.800 it back. 861 00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:41.280 He needs to buy them all teslas and limit the speed. 862 00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:43.119 I had governors on him. 863 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:45.639 I just want to say, Shanon Terry, if you're out 864 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:47.960 there listening and are you're a huge fan of the show. 865 00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:52.039 If you want the college football personality who leads the 866 00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:56.519 world in impressions, it's Chip Patterson. All right, get your 867 00:43:56.519 --> 00:43:59.480 fat straight. I don't care about impressions on Twitter. I 868 00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:01.199 care about it, right, that's right? 869 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:06.360 A bullet, Yeah, yeah, the CDL Ray comment. 870 00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:08.320 CDL would be a great thing to add to his 871 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:12.000 LinkedIn profile, So obviously it's something that I'm honestly surprised 872 00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:13.400 he hasn't going to get it already. 873 00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:15.639 Tom, do you have a mailbag question as well. 874 00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:19.960 No, mine was just the the identity and culture okay question? 875 00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:23.079 All right, coming up on the other side. 876 00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:26.920 More question this time from the Cover three tailgate and 877 00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:35.239 more back here on the Cover three podcast. 878 00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:37.199 A little team specific with this one. 879 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.199 Yeah, we like to use these mailbags as an opportunity 880 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.880 to bounce around the country answer some of your questions 881 00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:44.599 about your favorite teams. 882 00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:46.440 Nine am Eastern Time. 883 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.679 Jay Mango jumped into the tailgate. We appreciate you getting 884 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:54.800 the conversation started early, said, Auburn returns just one offensive 885 00:44:54.880 --> 00:45:00.440 starter with Biram Brown's heisman hype, is it realistic to 886 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:05.119 expect a portal O line to hold up in the SEC? 887 00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:09.679 Or is year one of Alex Golish going to be rough? 888 00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.159 Is there a lot of Byron Brown heisman hype outside 889 00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:21.280 of Auburn because this is the first I've heard of it. 890 00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.880 He's a really good player. He is I'll say this, 891 00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:30.000 He's gonna take a pounding. His body is built for it, 892 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.320 like he is a thicker, bigger quarterback, but he's also 893 00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:36.119 had injuries that he's had to deal with, Like I 894 00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:38.960 am very curious to see how his big body does 895 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:41.119 hold up because he does like to run the football, 896 00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:44.920 you know, they do like to run him. I think 897 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.719 he could help elevate Auburn. But I'm with you guys 898 00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:49.519 as far as the Heisman hype, I would pump the 899 00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.320 brakes a little bit. But I think that's a massive question. 900 00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:54.760 I think Auburn fans think it's a legit question to ask, 901 00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:57.320 how does their offensive line stack up. I think that's 902 00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:01.639 every coach's concerned, especially in the SEC. I think you're 903 00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:04.159 definitely worried about that position specifically. 904 00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:07.599 Yeah, I would very much prefer to have more continuity 905 00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:09.440 on my offensive line. But I will point out, like 906 00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:12.000 the idea of Auburn only having one offensive started returning 907 00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:14.880 might not be the worst thing, because the offense sucked 908 00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:17.480 last year, Like they had good receivers, but everybody else 909 00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:21.639 was pretty meant. So, I don't know. I think it's 910 00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:24.239 a legit concern. I do think that in the

offense 911 00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:29.800 that they run, offensive line isn't you know there? They 912 00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:32.119 spread you out, they take deep shots, and then the 913 00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:35.039 quarterbacks mobile scrambles around. Like you don't have to have 914 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:38.400 an all SEC first team offensive line for that offense 915 00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:41.239 to be successful. Now, it certainly helps, especially in the 916 00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:43.400 run game to be an elite offense with one. I 917 00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.320 just think that this is still a team that should 918 00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:49.760 be improved. But I don't think Auburn is going to 919 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:53.039 be competing at the top of the league unless that 920 00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.039 offensive line really really does kind of just hit. And 921 00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:58.159 it might. It's just you never really know when you 922 00:46:58.159 --> 00:46:59.400 have like a transfer line like this. 923 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.960 Yeah, this is where a fun fun tack on the 924 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:05.960 end of our experience conversation. Oliver and the Tailgate points 925 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:09.199 out that the offensive line projected to be three red 926 00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:14.239 shirt seniors and one red shirt junior among those transfers. 927 00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.960 But yet, I've also read a lot of literature and 928 00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.719 heard a lot of commentary that if your offensive line 929 00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:24.079 is built through the transfer portal, it normally does not 930 00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:26.239 yield the best results. 931 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:27.840 I don't know. 932 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:28.480 I want to. 933 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.760 Say, I can't find it. I was trying to find 934 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:32.840 I felt like Alec Golish had a great quote on 935 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:35.400 his offense at like he said it was keeping him 936 00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:38.840 up at nighters. There was some lot of praying for him. Yeah, 937 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:40.880 that's what it was. Yeah, there was something out there 938 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:43.599 where he's like he's aware of the issues on the 939 00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:45.320 offensive line and hoping it comes together. 940 00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:52.239 Yeah, I think that year one could be rough enough 941 00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.760 that Byron Brown Heisman hype is misplaced. 942 00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:58.760 That if we're going to actually talk about heisman hype, 943 00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:00.000 you probably need. 944 00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:00.360 To be fun. 945 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:03.760 That's no fun. Let's say he's the next Cam Newton. 946 00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.280 He's going to carry that team. 947 00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:09.039 I mean he will carry that team. 948 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:11.480

Yeah, but what I mean, what. 949 00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:12.440 Are we talking about here? 950 00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:18.360 Ultimately, let's see we're talking about a quarterback. He was 951 00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:24.920 twenty eight and seven last year, hurt twenty four, twenty 952 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:27.119 six and eleven back in twenty twenty three. 953 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.039 He can make plays? 954 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:32.679 Yeah, not. 955 00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:35.119 Not so sure. 956 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:38.679 How many do you think that Auburn is if you're 957 00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:40.920 to tear them out in the SEC? 958 00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:45.599 Who are their peers in their tier? Does that make sense? 959 00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:48.760 Like I liked Tom's article. We actually discussed on the 960 00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:50.960 radio show about Bowl. You know, teams that could make 961 00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:53.880 a Bowl. You have them in a good category, right. 962 00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:58.239 Like yeah, like it's coin flippy and you know. 963 00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:00.800 It's necessary, but it'd be not or something like that. 964 00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:03.400 Yeah, like you want to get off to the good start, 965 00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:06.119 but it's not necessarily a minimum. I don't think because 966 00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:08.159 you've got the new coach, the pressure is not on. 967 00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:11.559 But yeah, like if they finished five and seven last year, 968 00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:13.360 so it's not like they were very far away from 969 00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:16.320 being a Bowl team. And my theory was just schedules 970 00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:18.599 still difficult because you're still playing in the SEC and 971 00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:20.599 you are on the road against Tennessee, Georgia, Ole, Miss 972 00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.599 and PAMA. You get home games against Florida, Andy and LSU. 973 00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:26.679 But your defense was very good last year, it's just 974 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.079 your offense stunk. So if you could still have a 975 00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.440 good defense and improve your offense, which you should at 976 00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:35.639 least points wise, it's not hard to think this team 977 00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:37.519 can get to seven and five. So I would put 978 00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.079 them in that, like, you know, not competing for an 979 00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:42.719 SEC title, not competing for a playoff spot next year, 980 00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:44.800 but firmly in that middle tier of the league. 981 00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:49.400 Are they same as Florida? Is that a peer? 982 00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:50.880 Uh uh No. 983 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:52.760 I think Florida's in a little bit better spot. 984 00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:54.639 I think so too. A roster is better. 985 00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:57.480 I think Missouri's roster is better. I think Florida's roster 986 00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:58.880 is better. I think that. 987 00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:01.239 So what tier are they in? Who's in their tier? 988 00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:02.079 Kentucky? 989 00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:02.960 I don't know. 990 00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.880 I don't know if their roster is that much worse 991 00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:10.039 than Missouri's okay. I mean, if you look at the 992 00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:12.639 draft this year, there's gonna be plenty of Auburn players 993 00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.119 who go. And I think they've been talented the last 994 00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.360 few years. I just don't think they've been well coached. 995 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.960 And I think they've made some serious tactical decisions at 996 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:26.360 the quarterback position. So no, I don't think they're that different. 997 00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:28.000 And then that's not a knock on a Zoo. It's 998 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.679 mostly that Auburn is talented, it's just they haven't been 999 00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:32.039 well coached the last few years. 1000 00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:33.880 So you would put them ahead of Kentucky? 1001 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:34.760 Yes? 1002 00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:36.880 Would you put them ahead of South Carolina? 1003 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.519 Yes? I think they're more talented than South Carolina. I 1004 00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:42.519 think South Carolina has the much better quarterback. 1005 00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:45.880 Would you put Tennessee ahead of them? 1006 00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:47.920 Yeah? I think historically you have to look at the 1007 00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:50.559 last few seasons with Josh Eipel, they've been consistently a 1008 00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:51.079 lot better. 1009 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.239 But if Joey Jagular doesn't get that extra year that 1010 00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:57.239 reassesses things. 1011 00:50:57.920 --> 00:50:59.960 Will be very interesting because you're to your point time 1012 00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.559 they were five and seven a year ago. The issue 1013 00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:06.840 was and the reason why a lot of college football 1014 00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:09.960 fans brains think of it as being horrible. It's because 1015 00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:12.599 they were one and seven against SEC competition and er 1016 00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:16.119 to six against ranked opponents. It was just like a 1017 00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:19.159 team that finished with five wins, but anytime that the 1018 00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.440 money was on the table, they were not able to 1019 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:23.000 get it done. 1020 00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:25.800 All right, let's see what we else we got here 1021 00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:29.400 from the tailgate? Ooh, do you all remember this? One 1022 00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.159 simple question here? This was ten forty five am before 1023 00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:35.360 we got

started. Simple question here? How did the Cover 1024 00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:36.800 three podcast get its name? 1025 00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:39.239 Barton? Right? 1026 00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:45.239 Three? Dudes? Cover three? What was the specifics of it? 1027 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:47.239 Was there deeper meeting behind it with bart. 1028 00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:48.000 Dudes at the time? 1029 00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:48.239 Oh? 1030 00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:50.000 It was two? So how did it become Cover three? 1031 00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:57.119 The Yeah, it was Barton's number and we liked doing 1032 00:51:57.159 --> 00:51:59.960 a and he was a safety and so we liked 1033 00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:02.760 to do in a coverage you know, like have if 1034 00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:07.360 if you're looking at all the different you know football way, 1035 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:10.519 you know, ways to use a name. I think there 1036 00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:14.400 already was a Cover two also like maybe athlon had 1037 00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:19.559 I but Cover three was presented in a meeting and 1038 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.760 I remember that it was it had a nice ring 1039 00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:26.119 to it. And I mean, Danny you were were you 1040 00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:28.880 on the show at the time of like the rebrand 1041 00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:31.320 or were you coming in to join us every now 1042 00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:31.679 and then? 1043 00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.760 Tom would No, I think Danny, I think we I 1044 00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:37.960 was full time before Danny came on, so we were 1045 00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:41.159 fully covered three at that point. Like when you guys 1046 00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:43.199 first made the transition from it was what Ion College 1047 00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:44.119 Football Podcast? 1048 00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:48.320 Now, there was a twenty four to seven sports podcast 1049 00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:50.079 that started twenty seventeen. 1050 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:53.679 It was you and Barton were the the permanent hosts, 1051 00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:56.480 and I was coming on to do locks pots and 1052 00:52:56.519 --> 00:52:58.599 then that transition to be doing it full time, and 1053 00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:03.159 then Danny came on and then Barton left because you said, 1054 00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:04.719 I can't. I just can't. I can't work for me 1055 00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:05.400 any longer. 1056 00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:07.920 He was like most of the listeners that were when 1057 00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.480 I was add it, that was a rough welcome. He 1058 00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:12.320 covered three faithful. 1059 00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:14.360 Turns out Change. 1060 00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.480 I mean there was there was some conversations like is 1061 00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:20.679 this gonna work? Maybe we should pull them off. It's 1062 00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:22.000 a mutiny on our hands. 1063 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:23.880 People do not like Change. 1064 00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:27.199 One star reviews were coming in fast and furious. 1065 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:33.320 Right in the chances Bud did cover one by himself, 1066 00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:35.760 and he was just talking about b Yu the entire time. 1067 00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:37.880 That is that is Bud to a t that is. 1068 00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:43.920 Exactly Yeah, we uh yes to the answer the question. 1069 00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:47.159 I remember Barton latched onto it. He liked as a 1070 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:49.400 former defensive back that it was a coverage and he 1071 00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:51.639 likes the number three because it was his number. And 1072 00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.199 we'd been sifting through names for a while. Someone presented 1073 00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:59.280 some artwork that we liked and we said, sure, can 1074 00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:03.440 we please stop these Google meets now? I mean, ultimately, 1075 00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:06.440 whether a name sticks or not depends on how good 1076 00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:07.039 the show is. 1077 00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:09.880 That was my mentality the whole time. Name it whatever 1078 00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:10.199 you want. 1079 00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:12.440 But if the show sucks, I mean, I guess you 1080 00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:15.239 get to argue that at the fringes. But the key 1081 00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:18.400 to making Cover three something that was gonna stick, was 1082 00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:19.519 gonna be making a good show. 1083 00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.639 So how many of the most consequential decisions in human 1084 00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:25.119 history have been made just because people were tired of 1085 00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:27.599 talking about it? 1086 00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:32.280 A lot? A lot, all right? 1087 00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:35.800 One last one from the tailgate one a winter Olympic 1088 00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:37.800 sport that you would want to compete in. 1089 00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:43.840 Oh schemo. Have you guys seen the new one? It 1090 00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:46.320 just was out this morning. It looks awesome. So it's 1091 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:49.800 like a it's a sprint. You start off and you 1092 00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:51.679 have to wear you wear a backpack. You start off 1093 00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:54.960 cross country uphill, then you go like in and out 1094 00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:57.000 this little octagon thing where you have to like go 1095 00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.960 through this obstacle course. Then you take off your skis, 1096 00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:03.280 attach them to your backpack, you run up these stairs 1097 00:55:03.320 --> 00:55:07.360 like stadium steps, and then you get off and you 1098 00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.519 put on different skis, like you fix your skis so 1099 00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:13.360 they're downhill skis, and then you ski down like the solemn. 1100

00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:17.480 It's awesome, and it's like three minutes total. Like so, dude, 1101 00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:19.719 that was going sub six minute miles up the hill, 1102 00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:22.400 Like I could not do that three minutes. I think 1103 00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:25.239 I could give you something. That thing looks awesome. I 1104 00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:27.679 think I might do it. I might. I might have 1105 00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:29.920 to make a run in twenty thirty and that one 1106 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:33.320 scheme o sche mountaineering is what they call it. It 1107 00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:36.239 looks awesome, Tom. 1108 00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:39.400 I would like to do by half lie so that 1109 00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:41.559 way I could get really good at shooting, and then 1110 00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:44.000 after my Olympic career was done, I could just become 1111 00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:48.320 an assassin for hire, make a lot of money and not. 1112 00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:51.440 Ryan, though you do look born to curl. 1113 00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:55.199 Curling sucks, like I don't I understand, Like when it 1114 00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:56.760 first came on. It was kind of fun and it 1115 00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:59.199 was a thing, but like, curling is the most boring 1116 00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:01.880 sport on Earth. It gets I tried watching it and 1117 00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:04.239 I'm just sitting there. I'm like, well, well, why are 1118 00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:07.559 people watching this? I think that all of America's real 1119 00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.159 problems in the last decade started when we all decided 1120 00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:11.840 curling was fun. I think if we would all just 1121 00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:14.800 get together, have a heart to heart and say, you 1122 00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:17.639 know what, guys, curling sucks. We need to stop paying 1123 00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:19.199 so much attention to this. I think a lot of 1124 00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:20.840 I think that would heal our nation. 1125 00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:26.079 I've got the answer. It's Tom and I doing doubles louge. 1126 00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:28.119 That's exactly how thin. 1127 00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:35.480 Who's on top sixty nine position. It's like a skeleton 1128 00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:41.159 luge like hybrid what I would love to do. The 1129 00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:44.079 louse honestly were terrifying, but I would love to try it. 1130 00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:48.920 SNL had a funny bit a couple of weeks ago 1131 00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:53.679 about an Olympic athlete who hated the sport, but her 1132 00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:58.039 body was perfect for the loose, Like, physically, the only 1133 00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:00.679 thing that matters is your bone density, your weight, and 1134 00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:02.239 the way that it's dispersed. 1135 00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:05.559 She's like I'm terrified from my life. 1136 00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:06.480 Every day. 1137 00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:12.239 She's like every day as a hell for her. Yes, 1138 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.119 he has to go do something. She cannot stand. See 1139 00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:16.159 waything she can do? 1140 00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:19.920 All right. 1141 00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:23.760 We will be back on Monday next week. 1142 00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:27.159 Among the topics that we will be getting into include 1143 00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:30.119 starting to turn our attention to the quarterback position in 1144 00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:33.760 twenty twenty six. On Wednesday, we will be ranking the 1145 00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:35.639 top returning quarterbacks. 1146 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:38.679 Also at the end of the week an NFL. 1147 00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:41.920 Combine preview to get you set as we say goodbye 1148 00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:44.400 to some of our favorite stars at the college game 1149 00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:48.400 and they begin the process to prepare for the NFL Draft. 1150 00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:51.920 So quarterbacks, NFL Combine, and so much more on the 1151 00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:54.400 agenda for next week. Make sure you're hanging out with 1152 00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:55.119 us live. 1153 00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:57.000 We'll be back Monday, eleven a m. 1154 00:57:57.159 --> 00:58:00.480 Eastern Time, and you can follow him on Twitter, Tom Fernelle, 1155 00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:01.760 you can follow him at Danny Canell. 1156 00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:04.880 You can follow me at Chip Underscore. Patterson. Gentlemen, Thank 1157 00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:07.280 you very much, Thank you, see you