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[0:00] My mom has some kind of conditions that
[0:02] we've already tried to resolve for her
[0:04] for a long time. She eventually had to
[0:06] have a amputation for her condition. I
[0:10] thought why not try it because what to
[0:12] lose? Let's just try this. See how good
[0:15] the stem cells qualities are and then
[0:18] how well it will work for her. After 1
[0:20] month that condition actually improved,
[0:23] I would say 60%. So most people would
[0:26] experience continuous improvement
[0:29] progressively over the next 6 months or
[0:32] even to a year and even beyond that.
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[0:39] Hi Xander, thank you for being here
[0:41] today.
[0:41] It's my pleasure. I'm I'm curious to
[0:43] know like how long have you been
[0:46] involved with stem cells? Like how did
[0:48] that all start?
[0:49] Uh for stem cells actually I've been
[0:50] only doing it for the past four years.
[0:53] started in 2021. Um before that I really
[0:58] had very little knowledge about the stem
[1:00] cell therapy. Uh but 20 years ago I was
[1:05] working in labs um studying pathology.
[1:09] So I had the background of doing cell
[1:13] culture u molecular biology. So that's
[1:16] why I know I understand the concept of
[1:20] stem cells.
[1:21] Okay. And was there a particular
[1:23] experience or moment that motivated you
[1:25] to wanting to get involved in learning
[1:28] stem cells yourself and then providing
[1:29] it to to individuals? Was there
[1:31] uh I would say the particular moment is
[1:33] because I was introduced to stem cell
[1:37] therapy and of course like anything new
[1:40] I didn't know too much about it. So um
[1:43] but at the same time my mom has some
[1:46] kind of conditions that we've already
[1:48] tried to resolve for her for a long
[1:50] time. Um and I thought based on the
[1:54] concept I studied and also I read some
[1:56] articles I think uh you know why not try
[1:59] it because what to lose there there are
[2:02] nothing more uh we can do for her
[2:05] condition except just uh going through
[2:07] the traditional route and I've known
[2:10] people with exactly the same condition
[2:13] she had in her 80s and then she
[2:16] eventually had to have a amputation for
[2:19] her condition. So that's not the way we
[2:22] wanted my mom to go, right?
[2:24] That's why I thought, you know, let's
[2:26] just try this, see how good the stem
[2:28] cells qualities are and how well it will
[2:32] work for her. How was it after like your
[2:34] first one, two? Is this kind like
[2:36] multiple sessions that your mom went
[2:38] through or
[2:39] Okay, so she had her first session in
[2:41] October 2021
[2:44] and after one month that condition
[2:47] actually improved I would say 60%.
[2:51] uh then we did another session in
[2:53] December 2021
[2:56] and after that
[2:58] that particular leg with the condition
[3:03] basically just slowly healed over time
[3:06] because for stem cell therapy it's like
[3:09] you can see the
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result most for most
[3:12] people within the month but then because
[3:14] the stem cells keep working inside your
[3:17] body so it would have a progressively
[3:22] um it would be progressively getting
[3:24] better over time. It's not like when you
[3:27] feel it's better and then the effect is
[3:29] done and then starts deteriorating again
[3:32] or something like that,
[3:33] right?
[3:33] So most people would experience
[3:36] continuous improvement progressively
[3:39] over the next six months or even to a
[3:41] year and even beyond that.
[3:43] Wow.
[3:45] So So is your is your mom like
[3:47] completely good with that kid? Uh so so
[3:50] that the leg we did is in her right legs
[3:54] and then um she started having similar
[3:58] condition developing in early 2024 last
[4:01] year uh in her left leg. So because we
[4:04] already know what it is so we started
[4:07] doing the same procedure with stem cell
[4:09] again and we did it twice in January and
[4:12] in June. So now it's uh the inflammation
[4:16] is gone.
[4:17] Wow. That's fantastic to hear. I'm
[4:19] really really like happy for you and
[4:20] like for your mom too as well. Was was
[4:23] your mom like the first person you kind
[4:25] of like worked with when
[4:26] Yes.
[4:26] Wow.
[4:28] So many people would say my mom is a
[4:30] guinea pig.
[4:31] It's good thinking.
[4:33] But again, you know what's to lose? I
[4:36] mean uh for a lot of people they have
[4:38] fear about stem cell therapy because
[4:41] they think oh is it going to uh do uh
[4:44] damage to me or is it going to do harm
[4:46] to me instead of doing um good things
[4:50] but I would say um for most people's
[4:52] really conditions that cannot be they've
[4:56] already tried everything in traditional
[4:58] western medicine or even they tried
[5:01] other alternative treatments and it
[5:04] didn't work for them. Then um they
[5:09] you know the most fear people have is
[5:12] either the sales are now from themselves
[5:14] would they um cause any rejection or
[5:19] if they don't have any um uh would the
[5:22] cells cause tumor down the road. So uh
[5:26] and also there are people they think you
[5:29] know would it actually if it doesn't
[5:31] work would it actually make my condition
[5:34] worse but I think in most cases the
[5:37] worst scenario is like it doesn't work
[5:39] for you
[5:39] and that's it like no no side effects
[5:41] kind of thing like you try it out yeah
[5:42] it doesn't work kind of thing but
[5:44] how do you get stem cells for example I
[5:46] mean there's there's multiple ways to
[5:47] get stem cells but like for you how do
[5:48] you get stem cells and then yeah what
[5:51] does that look like
[5:51] you mean uh how do I obtain the stem
[5:54] cells Okay. So the stem cells we use
[5:57] come from the umbilical cord. It's the
[5:59] uh from the wartans jelly in umbil in
[6:02] the umbilical cord. So when babies are
[6:05] born the umbilical cord and placenta
[6:07] they
are actually medical waste. Um but
[6:10] nowadays there are more people who want
[6:12] to preserve their baby's umbilical cord
[6:15] for future use in case the baby uh say
[6:18] when they grow into adults or teenage
[6:21] years they get some kind of condition uh
[6:24] then they can actually retrieve their
[6:28] own umbilical cord to be used for
[6:31] treatment.
[6:32] So but for most still even now there are
[6:35] more people doing that still the
[6:37] majority of people's umbilical cord
[6:40] after birth are just uh discarded as
[6:43] medical waste
[6:44] like mine
[6:46] so your parents
[6:48] it's somewhere lost in the land of
[6:50] Alaska.
[6:50] Okay. All right.
[6:53] So um so then if you retrieve the
[6:56] umbilical cord well the b after the baby
[6:59] was born then you um isolate the part
[7:03] that's the warton's jelly that has the
[7:06] most concentrated mimo stem cells and
[7:10] then you uh start growing them in the
[7:13] lab but this part can only be done
[7:15] outside of the US right now you can grow
[7:18] them in the lab in the US but you cannot
[7:20] use these cells to be applied IED in
[7:23] clinical applications unless you're
[7:26] applying for some kind of clinical
[7:28] trials.
[7:28] Is that kind of the reason why for
[7:30] example you um you you provide stem cell
[7:32] therapy here in Colombia then because
[7:34] you're not able to do it in the US?
[7:37] Yeah, it's just because you have to
[7:40] apply to get approval from FDA for uh
[7:44] treatment that you say you're doing
[7:46] clinical trials and the I believe the
[7:50] approval process is very lengthy and uh
[7:54] costly. So then you can now per and then
[7:58] for clinical trials you can only do so
[8:01] many people. you cannot like really say
[8:04] okay I'm going to treat 100 200 people
[8:07] or you know just people whoever have the
[8:09] condition because for clinical trial you
[8:11] have like a criteria to screen people so
[8:14] it's not like everybody can do the
[8:16] clinical trials so it's limited access
[8:19] limited access you a very long time
[8:20] period just to
[8:22] clear that
[8:22] and also for clinical trial you can now
[8:24] like do treatment based on each person's
[8:27] condition because a clinical trial you
[8:29] have to do very specific speific
[8:32] protocol. Uh so say everybody in the
[8:36] control group can receive actually
[8:38] placebo and then the other group of
[8:40] people receive only say this amount of
[8:43] stem cells and then only for like twice
[8:45] or three times or something. But you
[8:48] cannot like go beyond that. You cannot
[8:50] like say okay this person condition
[8:52] probably they need four or five
[8:53] treatment or they need more cells.
[8:56] Right.
[8:56] You don't have that flexibility.
[8:58] Right. Okay. Will you walk me through
[9:00] the steps what it what it looks like for
[9:02] when you're treating somebody for stem
[9:03] cells like from the time they arrive in
[9:06] front of you until the treatment's
[9:08] finished? Like what does that look like
[9:10] the process?
[9:11] So before people even come in for
[9:13] treatment, we have to do a uh detailed
[9:17] consultation in person or uh over zoom
[9:22] or uh you know uh online. So we have to
[9:26] understand the health history of the
[9:29] particular person seeking stem cell
[9:31] treatment to see whether they are the
[9:33] candidate for it because not every
[9:35] single condition uh is suitable for stem
[9:38] cell treatment.
[9:39] Right? And then after the consultation,
[9:42] we can also determine if the person is
[9:45] eligible and then stem cell treatment
[9:47] can help them uh how many cells we're
[9:50] going to use in the treatment and like
[9:53] how many times they need to do it
[9:55] depending on the condition because uh
[9:58] some for some condition they only need
[9:59] one single treatment then they don't
[10:01] need it uh until say their condition
[10:05] returns again. But there are many people
[10:07] for joint condition they do one
[10:10] treatment and then they're good for like
[10:12] years. So they don't need to do it
[10:15] again. But then there are also
[10:17] conditions like autoimmune condition or
[10:20] um uh Parkinson's Alzheimer's they pro
[10:25] or diabetes they probably need to repeat
[10:28] two or three times within the 6 months
[10:31] to one year period of time for it to be
[10:33] effective. Gee, so I understand you come
[10:35] from like a lineage of 17 generations of
[10:37] Eastern medicine, Chinese medicine. Um,
[10:40] and now it seems like you're bridging
[10:41] the gap between Eastern medicine,
[10:43] Western medicine, but but filling in
[10:45] that gap where stem cell would be able
[10:47] to assist. Can you kind of just share a
[10:49] little more about that?
[10:51] Okay. So, uh, a lot of people when I
[10:54] tell them about stem cells, they usually
[10:57] say, stem cells, are they really related
[11:00] to Chinese medicine? Um, so here's a
[11:03] link between them because I started
[11:07] doing Chinese medicine because I was
[11:10] drawn to the philosophy of Chinese
[11:12] medicine developed 5,000 years ago. It's
[11:15] about early prevention uh treating the
[11:18] root cause of conditions rather than the
[11:20] symptoms which is the approach taken by
[11:25] western medicine in most of their
[11:27] treatments because they only treat the
[11:29] symptoms and they only wait until the
[11:32] symptoms are already developed to start
[11:35] treating because they don't recognize
[11:37] the underlying
[11:40] uh imbalance in your body that
[11:43] eventually build up over time to cause
[11:46] the symptoms. So um the stem cell
[11:50] treatment actually also treats your root
[11:53] cause of aging and aging related
[11:55] degenerative conditions instead of just
[11:57] treating the symptoms. For example, if
[11:59] you have osteoarthritis of the knee, the
[12:02] root cause is because your cartilage is
[12:05] worn out and then the cartilage worn out
[12:07] is causing the inflammation. That's why
[12:10] you have pain and because you have pain
[12:12] that you cannot move because once you
[12:14] move you have more friction between the
[12:17] joints and then it's calling causing
[12:19] more inflammation. So as long wherever
[12:22] you have pain in your body it's because
[12:24] the circulation in the area is affected
[12:27] due to the inflammation and when we age
[12:29] we actually have more inflammation going
[12:31] on inside our body. It's just aging
[12:35] related uh symptoms. It's one of the
[12:38] hallmarks of aging is chronic
[12:40] inflammation and everybody when you age
[12:43] you actually tend to have more
[12:44] inflammation. So um stem cell treatment
[12:47] actually addresses the chronic
[12:50] inflammation. It reduces chronic
[12:52] inflammation especially using the
[12:54] umbilical core stem cells and also stem
[12:56] cell treatment addresses the root cause
[12:59] of stem cell exhaustion in uh aging. So
[13:03] that's why it helps uh many aging
[13:05] related conditions.
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[13:26] Tell me what is stem cell exhaustion?
[13:29] Okay. So when we age uh the stem cells
[13:32] inside our body reduces in the numbers
[13:36] and in their ability to divide because
[13:39] the stem cells are responsible for
[13:42] regenerating cells, tissues and organs
[13:45] inside our body. Our body is in constant
[13:48] equilibrium of regeneration and cell
[13:52] death because we need to keep having the
[13:54] renew
[13:56] renewed cell regeneration to replenish
[14:00] the uh damaged or uh diseased cells and
[14:05] our body is constantly getting rid of
[14:07] the dead cells. So um so we need stem
[14:12] cells to keep regenerating but when we
[14:16] age the number of stem cells in our body
[14:19] reduce significantly. So when we are
[14:22] born there's one in um 10,000 cells is a
[14:26] stem cell. But by the time we're age 60
[14:30] only one in 400,000 cells is a stem
[14:32] cell. So that's 40 time reduction. And
[14:35] then one cell when we are born, one stem
[14:38] cell can divide into one billion cells
[14:41] in 30 days. But when we reach age 60,
[14:45] one stem cell can only divide into
[14:48] 40,000 cells in 30 days. So that's a
[14:52] huge difference. So because of that, the
[14:56] regeneration cannot keep up with the
[14:59] cell death. Uh then you have this
[15:01] deficit. That's when your body starts
[15:05] wearing out because the regeneration
[15:08] cannot keep up to regenerate the tissue
[15:11] that's being damaged from wear and tear.
[15:14] So that's why we have cartilage issue in
[15:17] the joints and leading to
[15:19] osteoarthritis. We have uh
issues in the
[15:22] brain that the cells are not replenished
[15:24] enough then we would have neurological
[15:27] conditions.
[15:27] You know you so talking about longevity
[15:30] it's got me thinking. So, I used to do a
[15:32] lot of CrossFit and particularly last
[15:34] year it was like some particular
[15:35] movement I did really bugged up my
[15:36] shoulder and ever since then I really
[15:38] struggled to do like heavy weightlifting
[15:40] or just weightlifting in general. Um,
[15:42] what would you suggest for somebody like
[15:43] my age, 31, um, start thinking about
[15:47] like would it be a good idea to even
[15:48] like consider doing stem cells from a
[15:50] longevity standpoint? Not just to like
[15:53] um, uh, fix my shoulder, but also assist
[15:57] with my my longevity and my overall
[15:59] quality of health. So, are you doing
[16:01] anything to help your shoulders so that
[16:03] you can do CrossFit again or
[16:06] I've done like physical therapy like
[16:08] stretching, body weight exercises? Um, I
[16:10] go see like a sports masseuse too as
[16:13] well, but it seems like it it never gets
[16:15] rid of the full pain like it's always
[16:17] there.
[16:17] Okay. So, because of that, you already
[16:19] stopped doing CrossFit.
[16:21] Yes. Yeah. Like over a year.
[16:22] Okay. So if that's the case, actually
[16:24] stem cell treatment for your shoulder
[16:26] will help tremendously and you can get
[16:29] back to your CrossFit training or your
[16:31] other weightlifting that you haven't
[16:33] been able to do even though you're only
[16:35] 31 years old. Um because you have some
[16:40] injury inside the shoulder that
[16:42] prevented you from being able to do
[16:45] things you would like to do. uh and the
[16:48] injury you had in the past from doing
[16:51] whatever things you did uh created scar
[16:54] tissue inside and stem cells are very
[16:58] good at reducing scar uh scar tissue
[17:00] both externally and internally and once
[17:04] you have the scar tissue reduced then
[17:06] you won't have the kind of friction
[17:08] caused when you do certain movements
[17:10] because once you have the friction from
[17:12] the scar tissue it causes inflammation
[17:15] that's why you have pain. Um, and even
[17:18] though you're only 31 years old, uh,
[17:21] your body is already starting declining
[17:24] slowly, even though maybe you haven't
[17:26] noticed it. Yeah. Um, so that's the
[17:29] concept about early prevention. Um, you
[17:33] want to start doing things early and you
[17:35] don't want to have this problem
[17:38] lingering on
[17:40] until you're in your 40s and 50s. then
[17:43] it can create even more problem down the
[17:45] road if you start fixing it now and then
[17:49] you can still enjoy doing a lot of
[17:51] activity you're able to do and then when
[17:54] you reach your 40s and 50s maybe if you
[17:58] started having some minor issues again
[18:00] then you use the stem cell treatment or
[18:02] other treatment to improve the
[18:04] circulation because shoulder is one of
[18:07] the joint that will first show the aging
[18:10] condition once you reach age 45. That's
[18:14] why a lot of people would start having
[18:17] shoulder pain or rotator cuff injury out
[18:21] of nowhere when they're in their 45, 50.
[18:25] Uh so there's a saying in Chinese
[18:28] medicine that they call rotator cuff
[18:30] syndrome uh when people in their 50s
[18:33] call 50s shoulder. So there's a reason
[18:36] for that because when you reach age 50,
[18:39] the channel that surrounds the shoulder
[18:42] joint declines. That's the first channel
[18:45] showing the decline significantly with
[18:47] aging. So that's why the shoulder joint
[18:49] is very difficult to heal once you age.
[18:52] Right. What's like the the main areas
[18:55] you normally work with with with your
[18:57] clients? Was it short?
[18:58] Uh shoulder, knees, ankle, wrist, back,
[19:03] neck,
[19:04] just everything. Yeah. Brain. Okay.
[19:06] Yes.
[19:07] Do you do you um have you work with a
[19:09] lot of athletes like professional
[19:10] athletes?
[19:10] Yes. So I actually also worked with with
[19:13] So that's why I mean when you're in your
[19:15] 30s it's not even say you're too young
[19:17] to do stem cells because I worked with
[19:21] um athletes in their 20s and because
[19:24] they have intensive training so their
[19:26] joints actually wear out uh sooner than
[19:30] they would be. And then it's again for
[19:34] anybody even when you are young it's
[19:36] difficult to regenerate cartilage tendon
[19:40] ligaments because they don't have a lot
[19:42] of blood supply. So even though your
[19:44] stem cells are still relatively young if
[19:48] you keep doing intensive training to
[19:51] wear them out it's still very difficult
[19:54] for the regeneration to keep up to
[19:56] repair.
[19:57] Okay. So, but if you use the stem cell
[20:00] therapy to give your joint a boost to um
[20:07] speed up its recovery, then you can do
[20:11] maybe more intensive training than you
[20:14] could do without the stem cell
[20:16] treatment. And then you won't have the
[20:18] pain and inflammation caused from too
[20:21] much training.
[20:22] That makes sense. I've heard from a lot
[20:24] of like friends or family members too,
[20:27] let's just say like in the US um that
[20:30] are not very positive about stem cell.
[20:32] Um what would be like um some things you
[20:35] would say to an individual that that's
[20:37] heard like negative negative negative
[20:40] things about stem cells?
[20:41] So just like anything there are good
[20:44] apples and bad apples. Um so because
[20:48] stem cell is a very new concept and also
[20:52] it has um restrictions in the US. So due
[20:56] to that um some clinics maybe they only
[21:01] want to uh seek financial profits from
[21:05] doing that. So they may not use very
[21:08] good quality stem cells um because
[21:11] really good quality stem cells right now
[21:14] are not available in the US for clinical
[21:16] application. Uh so some people in the US
[21:20] they may advertise saying they are
[21:23] giving you stem cell treatment uh from
[21:25] the umbilical cord but because of the
[21:28] availability of the quantity of the stem
[21:30] cells and quality of stem cell available
[21:32] in the US um they may give you the
[21:38] quality of the stem cell that only 50%
[21:41] of them or even lower are dead cells uh
[21:45] are live cells. So that means like you
[21:47] know the viability of the sales is very
[21:49] low. So that means it won't give you the
[21:53] good results and if the quantity is low
[21:55] as well and a lot of times you don't
[21:58] even know how many they're giving you
[22:00] and they're not showing you before the
[22:02] application. So that's the difference
[22:04] between uh us and the other clinics that
[22:08] you heard that things about.
[22:10] What do you mean by counting stem cells?
[22:13] So any kind of cells you can count them
[22:16] because just like you go to uh have
[22:19] blood test to count your white blood
[22:21] cells or red blood cells. So there's
[22:25] there are machines that can count them
[22:26] and then you can also count them
[22:28] manually under microscope. So we can do
[22:31] both. That's why we have the microscope
[22:34] right behind me. And uh we have uh the
[22:37] machine that can automatically count so
[22:40] that it's not subjective, it's
[22:42] objective. So it's not like I try to
[22:44] show you something because for most
[22:47] people if you show them the microscope
[22:49] picture of the cells, they don't know
[22:51] what it means. They don't know what is a
[22:53] dead cell, what is the live cell. So the
[22:56] automatic contractor can show you
[22:58] immediately like within a few seconds
[23:01] this sample. We take directly from the
[23:04] sample we're going to apply to your
[23:06] treatment how many cells are in there
[23:09] and the percentage of the viability
[23:11] and what's a what's a good number?
[23:14] So the good number would be above 80%.
[23:17] And then uh the number of stem cells we
[23:20] use in treatment depends on the
[23:22] condition. But for somebody like uh your
[23:24] age, young athletes, and then you have
[23:27] some joint minor joint issues that
[23:29] prevent you from doing certain things,
[23:31] we usually use 5 million to 50 million
[23:34] cells per joint injection. Uh and then
[23:37] if you are older, uh we recommend using
[23:42] 50 million cells to give you the best
[23:44] results. And then also important that
[23:47] when you do the joint injection with say
[23:50] 50 million stem cells at least 80 to 90%
[23:54] of viability. If it's below 80 then that
[23:57] means you are only getting uh 25 or 30
[24:01] million sales instead of 50 million
[24:03] cells.
[24:04] E this has been tremendously
[24:05] enlightening for me. Like I'm sold like
[24:07] how do I get started now? Like I I want
[24:09] to you know want to get this going now.
[24:11] What does that look like? Okay. So, you
[24:14] can um I can you can contact me and then
[24:18] uh we will go through the um forms you
[24:21] need to fill out for your health
[24:22] history. Then we have a inerson or
[24:26] online consultation to going through
[24:29] your whole health history and not just
[24:31] your shoulder but also other aspects
[24:33] like your digestion, your sleep,
[24:35] everything. Um because the whole body is
[24:38] everything is connected. So sometimes
[24:40] your shoulder problem may also have some
[24:42] other um parts of your body that's
[24:45] causing it u not healing sufficiently.
[24:48] Um then I will tell you what I think the
[24:51] best treatment protocol is for you. Then
[24:54] we can set up the time to do the
[24:55] treatment.
[24:56] Okay. And for anybody interested in
[24:59] doing that or if you know your friends
[25:01] who are interested in doing that then
[25:03] you can also give them my website uh
[25:06] stem cell therapyexperts.com
[25:08] and then they can contact me.
[25:10] Fantastic. I'm looking forward to
[25:12] sharing with my parents too as well and
[25:13] yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. I really
[25:15] appreciate your time. Thank you so much
[25:16] for your time.
[25:17] Thank you for uh being here today.