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Speaker 1: The Frames Per Second Podcast.
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Speaker 2: Wait, this is 2018? What year anniversary is this?
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Speaker 3: That ain't come out no 2018.
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Speaker 4: I said it all came out 01. It's 25 years.
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Speaker 1: This is a romantic comedy, y'all.
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Speaker 4: I hope that's not what you watched. Right. Did you remember the movie?
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Speaker 2: Wow, they used the same damn name. Ain't that some shit? Bruh, I typed it and set it up.
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Speaker 5: Jesus christ please tell me this is recording what this shit what yo yo fucking old ass man oh my god oh my god 1996 oh my god that's fucking funny oh set it off man.
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Speaker 2: Um Welcome everybody to the Frames Per Second podcast. Kenneth Beans here with Spike and Mike. I'm here to talk with you guys about Set It Off, which is up for its anniversary.
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Speaker 1: Dropped in 1996 and.
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Speaker 2: Here we are in 2026 and we're going to have a discussion about it.
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Speaker 1: It was directed by F. Gary Gray, who was actually in the movie.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Who was he? It was in the very beginning. He rolled up on, I think he was in one of the... The bouncy cars?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: He's the one that rolled up and looked at Queen Latifah when her car was.
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Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
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Speaker 4: I did not know that.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that either. My wife told me.
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Speaker 4: I forgot Dub C was in there.
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Speaker 1: Who was he?
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Speaker 4: He robbed a bank.
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Speaker 1: Darnell? Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Ain't that Dub C? Don't give me lies. West Side Connection?
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Speaker 6: I like them.
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Speaker 4: Look at Dub C. Unless I'm remembering one of them. I can't tell you the last time I seen Dubsy.
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Speaker 1: You're right. That was him, right? Yeah. Yeah, it says it right here. Dubsy is right now.
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Speaker 4: I used to fuck with that album, man. That West Side Connection album.
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Speaker 1: Damn. Okay.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know that was him at all. I didn't even know Gary Gray was in it until then.
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Speaker 4: I forgot he did this, but then he immediately reminded me. Because he did Menace to Society, right? Ain't that who done it? Was that the huge one? No, he did Boys in the Hood.
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Speaker 1: Oh, right.
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Speaker 4: The Hughes Brothers may have done Ministers of Society.
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Speaker 1: No, Jeff Gregory didn't do Ministers of Society.
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Speaker 4: The Hughes Brothers did that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: He did Friday and then set it off. Friday was his first film, according to Wiki. Huh. He did set it off. Damn, I didn't know he did The Negotiator, bro. That's my movie.
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Speaker 4: Knee bomb, tell the truth.
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Speaker 6: That was my shit, man.
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Speaker 4: I used to watch The Negotiator all the
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Speaker 1: Me too. Oh, man. Hell nah. Damn. But anyway, yeah.
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Speaker 4: He got some rights on him.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah.
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Speaker 2: So, it had award-winning music videos. It Was a Good Day by Ice Cube. Natural Born Killers by Dr.
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Speaker 3: Dre.
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Speaker 1: Keep the Heads Ringing. Waterfalls. Vince Jackson. Soundtrack, bruh.
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Speaker 3: Keep the Heads Ringing. That's not the Heather B song.
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Speaker 6: Who sings that?
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Speaker 4: Ice Cube.
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Speaker 3: Keep the Heads Ringing? What am I thinking of?
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Speaker 1: Well, it's Dr. Dre, ain't it? Yeah, it's Dr. Dre. Dr.
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Speaker 4: Dre beat Ice Cube on there, right?
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Speaker 6: Ding, ding, dong. Ring-a-ding, ding, ding, dong. Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 4: Keep your heads ringing. This is what happens when you get old, y'all.
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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what Heather B song I'm thinking of. I'm thinking of All Glocks Down.
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Speaker 4: Never mind.
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Speaker 1: Wrong three words.
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Speaker 2: But, so yeah, so we're going to have a quick discussion about Set It Off, man. You know, 96, I was well on my way to starting to become an adult, Spike.
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Speaker 6: God damn, man.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was two years fresh out of high school.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I do remember when this movie hit. Funny enough, we had a conversation about the 90s in.
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Speaker 4: The last three decades.
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Speaker 2: Black movies it was. I don't think there's no debate there. I'm thinking about some of these songs. These songs were banging back then, bro.
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Speaker 4: Today was a good day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Some bangers. But yeah.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, so when was the last time you guys watched this movie?
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Speaker 4: It's been at least a decade, but it is one of those movies that I've seen numerous times. That's a comfort movie. I feel like you throw that on and you watch, set it off.
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Speaker 1: Comfort movie?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely. For me, it used to be one of my go-to DVDs. What year was this? Like you said, coming into adulthood again, fight a little shorter, watch, set it off, the DVD player, yeah. Going to get it done every time. But, yeah, it's a compliment. Now for you.
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Speaker 7: I'm actually thinking this might be my first time watching the entire thing start to finish sitting down. This is one of those movies where I've seen bits and pieces, but I'm pretty sure I've never actually sat down and watched this movie in full. I was watching this movie waiting for the moment that they pop up out the trash can with the face paint on.
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Speaker 1: Dead Presidents.
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Speaker 7: I did not realize until the movie ended. I was like, oh, this ain't Dead Presidents. But yeah, I don't think I've ever watched it before.
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Speaker 4: But you was like on Training Day too, right? I still haven't seen Training Day in full. Man, I wish you had watched it.
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Speaker 7: I'm going to. I'm going to. I don't know why it's taken me so long. But yeah, this was not a movie that I ever cared to watch the entire thing.
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Speaker 1: What'd you think of it then?
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Speaker 6: I thought it was a really well-written movie.
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Speaker 7: I think there were certain people whose acting left a lot to be desired. I'll go ahead and say Queen Latifah was fucking terrible.
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Speaker 4: I think that's part of the charm of it. That's part of the charm of the movie.
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Speaker 6: Queen Latifah, she's a great actor now. I think.
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Speaker 3: Then, she was horrible.
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Speaker 6: Horrible? Horrible. Horrible. She was Cleo, Mike. She was so bad, dog.
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Speaker 4: Cleo was the first time she would finally just I.
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Speaker 3: Think I've heard her say that, actually.
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Speaker 1: Oh, really?
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Speaker 6: Maybe not.
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Speaker 7: Maybe I'm making that up. I'm just talking about what Spike said, too. No, I mean, this was the... She was in the closet until not that long ago, from what I remember.
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Speaker 1: At least.
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Speaker 4: She still ain't officially that came out and said it, right?
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Speaker 7: I thought she has either a girlfriend or a wife or something.
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Speaker 1: You know what?
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Speaker 3: Let me just shut up, because I might be wrong as fuck.
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Speaker 1: I have no... Honestly, I don't even know. After all these years... I might be wrong.
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Speaker 4: We know, but I don't.
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Speaker 1: Think she's ever been. I don't think it's been one of those things.
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Speaker 4: It's never been a thing where she's come out and said, I don't think. But she may be married because I have seen her with a lady, though.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought she had like a wife.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, she's got a long-term relationship with Ebony Nichols, and they've been together for over a decade. So I would imagine she's out of the closet by now. But either way, yeah, again, not shitting on Latifah because I think she definitely got so much better. But in this role, I did not believe not a single word that came out of that woman's mouth.
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Speaker 1: Oh, man.
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Speaker 3: Not a single word, except when she was talking to that girl.
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Speaker 4: I believed it when that girl was walking on the carpet. I believe that.
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Speaker 1: You thought she was bad in here, too?
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Speaker 6: She wasn't acting in that moment.
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Speaker 4: I'm so used to seeing it. I don't even notice that her acting is bad in this. I'm just so used to, like, Cleo. I just feel like that's how Cleo act.
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Speaker 1: It just seemed like Queen Latifah to me.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. Queen Latifah didn't act like that.
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Speaker 1: If you ever.
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Speaker
6: If you go back and watch.
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Speaker 1: I know, yeah. I know, yeah. But I don't know. I don't know. I went with her, Mike. I didn't think it was that bad.
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Speaker 3: She had one of the worst death scenes I've ever seen.
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Speaker 6: Oh, no. The scene itself was dope. But I'm talking about when she finally.
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Speaker 4: I was going to say, that's one of my favorite scenes of all time.
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Speaker 1: No, the scene is beautiful.
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Speaker 4: Okay, got you, got you.
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Speaker 1: The scene is dope.
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Speaker 7: Yes, when she was dying, I was like, dog, you ruined the whole fucking scene.
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Speaker 6: Why are you doing that? I don't know why she did that.
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Speaker 1: Why are you.
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Speaker 3: Crumping right now? This doesn't even make sense.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a better example. She looks like she just got tased.
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Speaker 4: Right in the asshole. I feel like that's one of the best scoring moments in cinema history.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good. really good.
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Speaker 4: That song at that moment. Yeah, this was perfect. That shit was perfect. I had to go find it. I didn't know what that was. I had to go find that song.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you get oddly emotional watching certain parts of this.
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Speaker 4: It's like, oh my god, because she knew she was going to die.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was really good.
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Speaker 6: But yeah, I was surprised. This was a really well written.
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Speaker 7: I thought it was just a hood movie. And a lot of times hood movies are just hood movies.
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Speaker 6: They're entertaining.
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Speaker 7: They're just fun to watch, you know, but This was actually a really well-written film.
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Speaker 6: I enjoyed it.
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Speaker 2: I think, because it's been well over a decade for me, but it's one of those movies that, you know, would be on, you know, and that you would just end up watching. Because it's not a comfort movie, Spike.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 4: I think maybe I understand what you're saying.
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Speaker 1: But it's on.
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Speaker 2: Probably in a lot of different black, you go to Black House or whatever, it'll be on television a lot.
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Speaker 1: You've seen it a lot, so you don't even have to re-watch it.
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Speaker 2: But re-watching it just to kind of talk about it was fun and interesting because there are a lot of things that I really forgot about the movie.
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Speaker 4: To my point of comfort, I think heist movies are my comfort because The Town is my other comfort movie. So it's probably got something to do with a heist movie.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. No, I got you.
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Speaker 2: But I think to kind of what you were saying earlier, Mike, I think in the very beginning of the movie, I didn't realize how great of a job in terms of the writing that they did in setting up the motivations.
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Speaker 1: For each one.
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Speaker 6: Really good.
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Speaker 2: And each one was so distinct that it just created this perfect moment for them to come together to do this act out of a sense of desperation.
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Speaker 6: Except Cleo.
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Speaker 3: She was just I still don't know what her fucking motivation was.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, car.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was wild. She didn't have one. She didn't need one, though.
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Speaker 4: She just wanted to be down with her.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was just the hood, you know, character. Right.
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Speaker 2: But Frankie, with the robbery you were talking about with Dubsy, and old boy that was in a lot of those movies back then, I think he was in.
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Speaker 4: Rest in peace, man. He just died not too long ago, too.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that. Yeah, um... He had the AP... What's his name?
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Speaker 7: The guy from Men's Society. The guy that got stomped out.
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Speaker 6: I don't think I knew he died.
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Speaker 4: I don't even think it was a month ago.
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Speaker 2: Damn.
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Speaker 1: I hope it was normal.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what the cause was. It wasn't like... He wasn't like killed or... That's a shame. Rest in peace.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, so it has this whole bank robbery and it went wrong for the most part, but they got away. And because of her association, her being Frankie, just trying to talk the guy out of it, she got fired because the cop made, of course, a judgmental decision based on the conversation that she was involved.
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Speaker 4: And he said that she didn't follow protocol. That's why I'm.
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Speaker 2: Agreeing with you. But because she didn't follow protocol, he assumed that she was involved.
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Speaker 3: Well, she didn't follow protocol, and she knew the guy. She admitted to knowing the guy.
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Speaker 6: That's why I agree with you. It was really good writing.
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Speaker 7: Because that is really, really good motivation for them being like, well, we have to fire you. Because you can look at that and say, okay, you knew the guy.
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Speaker 4: And you didn't follow protocol.
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Speaker 6: And you didn't follow protocol.
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Speaker 7: What's going on here? So I like that whole setup. It completely made sense.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it did.
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Speaker 3: Except when she looked at that woman and was like, you didn't.
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Speaker 4: Offer me a drink.
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Speaker 6: You didn't ask me if I was thirsty, sister.
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Speaker 1: Why would I?
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Speaker 6: It's my water.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to just, and it's your bank. If you want some water, go get your own.
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Speaker 4: I think you're a cool guy.
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Speaker 6: Are you thirsty?
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 2:
Yeah, this ain't no sisterhood shit right now. You might be involved.
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Speaker 4: I think you're the criminal.
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Speaker 1: We just got to fight. You're right. It does look suspicious from their point.
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Speaker 2: You could have pulled the trigger, regardless of how traumatized you are in the moment.
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Speaker 4: But I get it. Way more so now than I thought back then. because I agree with y'all a million percent, but I used to think, like, man, they did her dirty. It was wrong.
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Speaker 7: They still did her dirty, but it does make sense when you're older.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes sense when you're older.
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Speaker 7: But, man, the cop, the female cop, I had, I don't, I mean.
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Speaker 4: I had the biggest crush on her. She played in, she was Rock's wife. Yeah, Rock's wife.
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Speaker 3: In Rock.
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Speaker 1: Oh, that's what that was?
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 3: And, man, whenever that show was on, I was like, man, Rock's a lucky guy.
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Speaker 4: Wasn't that Elaine?
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Speaker 6: I don't remember.
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Speaker 4: That was Elaine.
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Speaker 3: I don't remember her name, but I had the, anytime I watched Rock, Ella Joyce.
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 7: I had the biggest crush on her, but I had never seen her in anything else. I was surprised to see her pop up in this.
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Speaker 1: She didn't do much. No, she didn't.
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Speaker 3: But she's, you know, she was pretty mediocre as an actor.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: They're not bad or anything. Eleanor was her name. Eleanor.
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Speaker 1: But, uh, Oh yeah. Ella Joyce is a real name.
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Speaker 4: Okay. Gotcha.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So that, that was what happened with Frankie. Um, The other three work for this guy named Luther, and they clean buildings. I love Luther, man. Luther, my nigga.
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Speaker 1: I'll fuck with Luther. For real, for real.
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Speaker 6: Y'all bitches.
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Speaker 4: Y'all bitches get back to work.
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Speaker 6: She popped back in work after being gone.
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Speaker 4: Luther was like, I know you fucking lying. I'll fuck with Luther.
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Speaker 6: Oh, shit.
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Speaker 1: I love Luther, man. I'll fuck with Luther, man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like, yeah, you know you're going to hire me back because nobody else want this shit to put up with your shit.
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Speaker 1: Gone for a week and came back.
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Speaker 4: She ain't called or said shit.
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Speaker 7: Nothing.
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Speaker 6: Just popped back up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, y'all get back to work, ladies and gentlemen.
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Speaker 6: That was foul as hell, man. That was foul as hell.
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Speaker 3: That shit would not fly down.
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Speaker 6: Not today. You can't do that today, buddy.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 2: She just rolled along with the machine. Cleo didn't give two fucks.
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Speaker 1: No, one. Yeah, but.
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Speaker 2: But, yeah, so, and then the other one, of course, Kimberly Elise played the one that had the kid.
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Speaker 1: T.T.? Yeah, T.T.
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Speaker 4: Come out bad acting.
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Speaker 1: That's the one I thought you were going to talk about.
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Speaker 4: Is she supposed to be slow? I don't think she's supposed to be slow.
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Speaker 6: Stop laughing. I'm serious.
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Speaker 4: Okay, so she was supposed to be slow, and I think the acting was fine.
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Speaker 1: It felt like she was a little slow.
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Speaker 4: She had to be.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Because I couldn't tell what was going on there. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: What you mean we're going to rob the bank?
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Speaker 3: The place that got all the money in the vault, we're going to rob it?
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Speaker 4: How are we going to do that?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I thought that when I was like, she said, I thought you was paying me under the table, no taxes. And I was like, why? I just didn't understand why there was such a deal breaker to taxes because they couldn't have been making that much, kid. So we're talking about $ 15, $ 16?
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It was enough, though. Yeah, I can see that. She said it was taking half her checks, Mike. She needed all that money for the kids.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see that.
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Speaker 2: So I think maybe he started out, no, maybe Luke did a lot.
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Speaker 1: Maybe Luke did a lot.
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Speaker 2: Because the way I would always interpret that scene or that conversation was, I was paying you out the taxes.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm not. But maybe... Cleo hooked her.
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Speaker 2: Up with the job, and he was like, yeah, I'm going to pay you under the table so you don't have the taxes.
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Speaker 4: And then he put on payroll, and then the taxes taken out. Or he was keeping the tax money himself.
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Speaker 1: No, because she was getting the check.
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Speaker 4: He was giving her cash at first, and then once you process her to payroll, if you give her the same amount, it's going to be less because of taxes.
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Speaker 3: I see.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Okay, got you, got you. That makes sense.
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Speaker 2: But that was her whole thing, so they were cleaning the buildings. Her motivation was they were cleaning the buildings. The kid went out and got us some shit, and he burnt himself or whatever.
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Speaker 7: Stupid-ass kid. Maybe he learned a fucking lesson. He's over there drinking fucking cleaning solutions, you dumb fucker.
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Speaker 1: It was water.
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Speaker 6: Goddamn.
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Speaker 1: That's what they call the Darwin effect. Like,
this motherfucker.
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Speaker 4: And then they took the child for that. That was low-down.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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Speaker 7: Your kid drinks fucking bleach. Like, your kid over here chugging Clorox. Of course they're going to take your child, man.
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Speaker 1: Spike, if I told you that story outside of this booth. Y'all are right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you would be like, nah, she's a terrible parent.
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Speaker 1: She wasn't.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's that incident.
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Speaker 1: The kid just got away.
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Speaker 6: She wasn't even watching him. She just dropped the little fucker over in the corner. Like, all right, bro, stay here.
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Speaker 7: And then one five minutes later, he immediately got up and was like, let me go see what this shit is.
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Speaker 6: This blue shit. Looks like Kool-Aid.
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Speaker 4: When I was young, I used to go to a job with my mom like this. She cleaned beautiful. She made me work.
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Speaker 1: You're saying she should have made that kid work? Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Go empty the trash.
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Speaker 6: Black parents are so bad.
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Speaker 4: Hey, go empty the trashes in these places. You know how to push a vacuum? Vacuum that room right there.
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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.
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Speaker 4: My mom tells a story all the time. She would take me to work.
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Speaker 3: She worked two jobs when my dad wasn't around.
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Speaker 4: Same.
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Speaker 7: And she said I would just sit in the corner and just fucking not say a word. She was like, you were such a good baby.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what happened.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, of course, her deal is she has to prove that she's a good parent and she's going to need money as well.
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Speaker 1: Because they were just saying, they were talking too much. Yeah, we were watching. We just turned our head for a few minutes.
00:18:02
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
00:18:03
Speaker 1: Like, that's going to help your case, but either way it go. Yeah.
00:18:07
Speaker 3: Then they had the girl from Amen.
00:18:09
Speaker 1: I know.
00:18:10
Speaker 3: I can't remember her name, though. She was Sherman Hemsley's daughter. Was it Velma or Thelma?
00:18:17
Speaker 4: I don't remember.
00:18:19
Speaker 7: Anyway, I hadn't seen her and shit either in a while, other than Friday, obviously. But, yeah, them taking the kid, I was like, okay, it makes sense.
00:18:27
Speaker 4: But damn, it's foul. It was Thelma?
00:18:30
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it was. Ooh. But I think the saddest one out of all of.
00:18:35
Speaker 2: Them, of course, was what happened with Jada Pinkett's character.
00:18:42
Speaker 3: That was the saddest one?
00:18:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the saddest one.
00:18:45
Speaker 1: Y'all don't think so?
00:18:48
Speaker 4: Her brother died, though.
00:18:50
Speaker 1: I guess it's funny.
00:18:51
Speaker 7: Well, I was more looking at it from the standpoint of that was stupid as fuck that she got that check and tore it up.
00:18:58
Speaker 4: I was like, you're a fucking idiot. Well, I guess so.
00:19:00
Speaker 1: The check didn't matter at that point.
00:19:02
Speaker 6: It was still money.
00:19:03
Speaker 1: You need it.
00:19:04
Speaker 6: Why would you tear it up?
00:19:07
Speaker 2: I think because of the reason why she did it was, okay, I do understand from y'all's perspective, but I think she was just so disappointed that her brother lied to her about getting into UCLA and she went and slept with this man Nate to get the money.
00:19:21
Speaker 1: She was like, fuck this money.
00:19:22
Speaker 2: But to your point, she did earn it. that's what i'm saying i suck dick for a million dollars i'm not gonna just be like oh will you trick me i'm not taking the million i'm keeping the.
00:19:33
Speaker 6: Fucking million yeah well yeah i That's what I'm saying.
00:19:41
Speaker 7: I suck dick for a million dollars. I'm not going to just be like, oh, well, you tricked me. I'm not taking the million. I'm keeping the fucking million.
00:19:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah.
00:19:49
Speaker 4: I don't know how I get tricked into sucking a dick. I'm in a bind, Nate. Nate didn't give a fuck.
00:19:54
Speaker 6: Nate did the bird man hair.
00:19:56
Speaker 4: He said, are you in a bind, baby?
00:19:57
Speaker 6: Oh, that was foul.
00:19:58
Speaker 1: That was so nasty. You got to give me a reason to do it.
00:20:00
Speaker 4: Nate did the massage. Nate was a nasty dude.
00:20:05
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:20:05
Speaker 1: I always, always hate this thing.
00:20:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sad. It was heartbreaking.
00:20:10
Speaker 1: And then for him not to just lie about college, she slapped the shit out of him.
00:20:14
Speaker 4: She should have. He deserved it.
00:20:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fucked up. That whole situation was fucked up.
00:20:19
Speaker 3: Again, it's really good writing.
00:20:20
Speaker 4: It was.
00:20:21
Speaker 1: Really good writing.
00:20:21
Speaker 7: They could have gave them some bullshit reasonings for doing all of this, but they actually thought out what would put them in this situation.
00:20:29
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yeah, it was really good.
00:20:31
Speaker 2: Even to the point where you were talking about her brother just dying on just some.
00:20:36
Speaker 1: Wrong place, wrong time shit.
00:20:38
Speaker 6: By the police.
00:20:39
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:20:40
Speaker 4: I don't know gang shit or nothing, but by the police.
00:20:42
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
00:20:43
Speaker 2: So, you know, he goes to the house where the guy that robbed the bank is at. And they gave him a fresh cut or whatever. And, you know, I think they even know Stoney. So they kind of talk or whatever. But, yeah, like you said, he comes out and they shoot him. He just had the fucking champagne glass. What I didn't like, though, was them trying to make it seem like the
cop was remorseful about the shooting. It just felt weird. Even though he probably was, but it's just like you're trying to make it seem like I didn't mean to do it, and I'm not out here trying to kill black people.
00:21:18
Speaker 7: That was just so up the ending. I didn't have a huge problem with you. It feels weird and icky, but in the whole grand scheme of the movie.
00:21:27
Speaker 3: They kind of had to do that.
00:21:29
Speaker 7: Because if he was just like, I killed this little black kid and he was uncaring, I don't think the end would have made any sense.
00:21:35
Speaker 1: It just seemed like how aggressive he was at the beginning of the movie.
00:21:38
Speaker 2: And then now in this situation, you know, and they killed this kid or whatever.
00:21:43
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:21:44
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was always weird to me.
00:21:48
Speaker 3: Was it as weird as when Jada Pinkett was holding the kid and she was like, Was it as weird as that?
00:21:54
Speaker 4: Because that was pretty fucking weird.
00:21:56
Speaker 6: What's wrong with that?
00:21:57
Speaker 3: I don't know, man. The acting performances in some of this shit was real bad.
00:22:01
Speaker 4: It was real bad.
00:22:03
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00:22:44
Speaker 2: So that's how we got to the point where they're like, all right, well, we're going to rob the fucking bank. And, Um, the first bank TT was like, nah, I'm, I'm cool.
00:22:54
Speaker 1: I'm out. I ain't, I ain't.
00:22:55
Speaker 4: Well, you forgot the, the Dr. Dre, another, another terrible, another terrible Dr. Dre appearance. Cause I don't know why they keep making this man act. He was in training day too. Oh Jesus.
00:23:05
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:23:07
Speaker 1: Cause he needed guns for the operation. So they went to him to go get, get guns. Black Sam.
00:23:11
Speaker 4: Black Sam.
00:23:12
Speaker 1: Yeah. They went to go get guns for Black Sam. And she was like, I'll bring you your guns back with interest.
00:23:16
Speaker 4: With interest.
00:23:17
Speaker 1: Yeah. He was like, all right. Um, Yeah, so then they roll up on the bank. The first one went well, though. It worked. They got the money.
00:23:26
Speaker 4: T.T. ran out, like you said.
00:23:28
Speaker 1: Except they probably should have used masks.
00:23:31
Speaker 7: Yes, because the wig that Janet Pickett had on was the same hair that she usually has.
00:23:35
Speaker 6: I was like, how is this a fucking disguise?
00:23:38
Speaker 1: It took them a while to figure it out, though, Mike.
00:23:40
Speaker 6: That's because they think all black people look alike. They just had to narrow them down.
00:23:43
Speaker 7: But I was like, do you think this is Superman where you just put on glasses and all of a sudden no one knows who you are?
00:23:48
Speaker 6: Like, this is ridiculous.
00:23:50
Speaker 1: And the crazy part is, they didn't realize it until the end of the movie. Right.
00:23:55
Speaker 2: Because the end of the movie, that's when they went in with masks on. But it's too late.
00:23:58
Speaker 6: They already know who you are. It's too fucking late, stupid.
00:24:01
Speaker 4: I've seen you.
00:24:02
Speaker 2: But yeah, so, but T.T. was like, no, I'm not going to do it or whatever. And then in the middle of that, though, first, I.
00:24:09
Speaker 1: Forgot you're right. I forgot to go back also, their case in the joint.
00:24:13
Speaker 2: And that's when she runs into Blair Underwood's character.
00:24:16
Speaker 4: Blair Underwood did a good job. He's a good actor. Yeah, he's a really good actor.
00:24:21
Speaker 1: But he love him some Stoney, though.
00:24:23
Speaker 4: He was in that game.
00:24:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was.
00:24:25
Speaker 4: He wanted to save her, boy.
00:24:26
Speaker 3: He said, he's so fun. I had to come over and see if you had an account.
00:24:29
Speaker 1: He knew good and damn well she had an account. No.
00:24:32
Speaker 4: He wanted to save her life.
00:24:34
Speaker 1: As soon as she said $ 1, 000. I mean, yeah.
00:24:38
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, I got to, you know. But I got to admit, you know, I don't know how any of this shit work.
00:24:47
Speaker 1: He was flexing. He was like, I don't know how any of this shit work. You know, I just, I just had to come out and let you.
00:24:52
Speaker 6: He did. That was, that was, that was, it was, it was endearing.
00:24:55
Speaker 4: It was sweet.
00:24:56
Speaker 1: It was. I liked it.
00:24:58
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:24:58
Speaker 4: They didn't make him overly cool, overly suave.
00:25:00
Speaker 6: He was just like, smooth.
00:25:02
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:25:03
Speaker 4: Yeah. I liked it.
00:25:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, and the ladies loved him. Man. Yeah. But, you know, my thing about dudes with mustaches, like, like, But he was all right, though.
00:25:17
Speaker 4: He was all right. Listen, if Blair Underwood or Michael Ealy show up in a movie, the girl is taken fast. Either one of them two.
00:25:26
Speaker 1: Yep. One got the eyes. Michael Ealy and Blair Underwood.
00:25:29
Speaker 6: Because he don't even grow facial hair, does he?
00:25:31
Speaker 1: Nah.
00:25:32
Speaker 6: Michael Ealy?
00:25:33
Speaker 4: Just a rough stubble with the green eyes. He don't get them every time.
00:25:37
Speaker 1: That's all it takes.
00:25:38
Speaker 2: So, you
know, they introduced this sort of conflict for her with, having her this, giving her this romantic interest that, you know, they went on a date. There was one date he went on and she showed up with this flower dress.
00:25:53
Speaker 4: That was crazy. Bruh.
00:25:56
Speaker 3: He was like, that's colorful. He was like, you look nice.
00:26:00
Speaker 1: He said, oh, you don't like it? Hell no. It's colorful.
00:26:04
Speaker 4: What the fuck? That's a Netflix and chill dress. That ain't a restaurant dress.
00:26:09
Speaker 3: You look like a fucking... A pack of Skittles or some shit.
00:26:13
Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
00:26:14
Speaker 6: I was like, where did you get that Taste the Rainbow ass fucking dress from?
00:26:18
Speaker 4: That's where she got it from, Rainbow.
00:26:19
Speaker 3: That's exactly where she got it from, Rainbow.
00:26:23
Speaker 6: He's so smooth, though.
00:26:25
Speaker 1: He was like, you know what? I got to be honest with you. I'm lying. We ain't going to go straight to the joint. He had to go get us some shit, bro.
00:26:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to.
00:26:30
Speaker 1: He had to take a shot.
00:26:31
Speaker 4: Can't go where we going looking like that.
00:26:33
Speaker 6: How'd he get her hair done, though? They just cut the braids, though, didn't they? No, I thought they like... Braided them back or some shit.
00:26:41
Speaker 3: Am I tripping?
00:26:41
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm tripping.
00:26:42
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't remember. But she had that black dress on.
00:26:44
Speaker 3: She looked good, though.
00:26:45
Speaker 1: She did. She straight lied about what she did for work.
00:26:47
Speaker 4: That's Jada Pinkett fine right there.
00:26:48
Speaker 3: That was classic before them bald-headed lies she kept telling.
00:26:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was running game on him, King, about what she.
00:26:56
Speaker 1: Did for work. No, she was lying to the white folks. To the white people. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was just. Because they were. I don't know what they were going to say, you know. But I guess.
00:27:04
Speaker 2: Because, you know, they had a couple of conversations talking about their relationship. you know, she didn't feel like there was a way out for her. And he was like, yo, you can go do this.
00:27:12
Speaker 1: You can do that.
00:27:13
Speaker 2: Like, I think he was just saying like, you know, like you're in this.
00:27:16
Speaker 1: Situation, but what is your plan to get out? You know?
00:27:20
Speaker 2: And, and, you know, and I, and I thought that that was cool because like what Mike was saying, he wasn't really judgmental. He wasn't really preaching or anything like that. You know, he really just like even told, he said, bro, I don't want anything. I could just sit here and just talk to you.
00:27:35
Speaker 1: And that was it. That was before, you know, They did more than talking.
00:27:39
Speaker 2: And he had the baby oil and he put the chain on her back and shit like that.
00:27:46
Speaker 4: I could have done without that scene.
00:27:49
Speaker 3: Why?
00:27:50
Speaker 7: Man, this scene was so awkward with the music and shit.
00:27:55
Speaker 6: He's like putting that thing down her butt. And I was like, what are you doing? This is your first time fucking. This is what you're doing? What are you doing?
00:28:03
Speaker 4: You want to take his time with this, man? Is that what it is?
00:28:06
Speaker 1: Fuck that. He just went and bought this dress, too? Well, you thought he owed her?
00:28:11
Speaker 6: Or she owed him, I mean?
00:28:13
Speaker 1: Nah, nah, I don't think he thought that.
00:28:15
Speaker 6: That scene was weird, man.
00:28:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, shit. They used to do shit like that, man. They used to. Set expectations.
00:28:24
Speaker 6: Unfair expectations.
00:28:26
Speaker 4: Right, that ain't going to happen.
00:28:28
Speaker 1: Right.
00:28:29
Speaker 2: You've been watching Set It Off again.
00:28:32
Speaker 7: Wait, you ain't going to drag a gold necklace down my navel?
00:28:36
Speaker 6: Wait a minute. What you mean?
00:28:37
Speaker 7: You ain't going to squeeze some orange peel juice in my pussy before you lick it?
00:28:41
Speaker 6: No.
00:28:43
Speaker 3: No.
00:28:43
Speaker 4: Who told you this?
00:28:44
Speaker 1: It's a movie. It's a fantasy.
00:28:47
Speaker 6: That's funny.
00:28:49
Speaker 1: God. I think they used to do that shit a lot like that. They did.
00:28:52
Speaker 3: Jason's Lyric. What's the other one? Poetic Justice. No, there was no sex scene in Poetic Justice.
00:28:58
Speaker 6: Wait, was there?
00:28:59
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I ain't watched that one in a minute, too.
00:29:02
Speaker 6: I haven't either.
00:29:02
Speaker 4: I haven't either.
00:29:03
Speaker 3: That sex scene was fucking do the right thing.
00:29:05
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:29:07
Speaker 1: But yeah, so they had a couple.
00:29:08
Speaker 6: Yeah, you do the ice cube, fool.
00:29:09
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
00:29:12
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:29:13
Speaker 6: Everybody tried that at least once.
00:29:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:29:16
Speaker 6: Just hear me out. An ice cube. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. You're going to like it.
00:29:22
Speaker 1: You're going to like it. It's going to work. So, yeah, so they went on a couple of days. What did you guys think?
00:29:27
Speaker 2: Did they do a good job of kind of with their relationship and setting this whole thing up between the two of them?
00:29:34
Speaker 1: They did.
00:29:34
Speaker 4: I think they did a good job of giving that part of the story depth. I liked that Blair Underwood. to what Mike was saying, he wasn't a character that you didn't dislike him. He came off as a genuine, like, oh, man, that would be a good guy for her. She's struggling. If that happened, you would be rooting for her. So that adds a depth and a layer to the story as to where, like, man, she could have went the other route, too.
00:29:58
Speaker 1: And her conflict. At the end. Exactly.
00:30:01
Speaker 4: And that's what I was going to say. It built up the conflict at the end, too.
00:30:03
Speaker 2: So because, you know, and they kind of use that, use that against her.
00:30:07
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, like this.
00:30:09
Speaker 2: Guy, Bumpy or whatever, where she was like, we need you. But you're stuck in this whole thing with.
00:30:17
Speaker 1: This guy that. Really, for her, is a way out.
00:30:21
Speaker 4: That's a win. I don't have to do this. I don't have to do this.
00:30:24
Speaker 1: No. He got her for the rest of her life.
00:30:28
Speaker 4: Facts. Facts.
00:30:30
Speaker 1: So she was straight. But, yeah, I did like that.
00:30:37
Speaker 2: But, you know, at some point, though, they eventually, you know, he figured it out because they didn't wear a mask and just shades that it was Frankie and Frankie and all of them were connected. Because, of course, they also all showed up at the scene when the brother got shot. So we did see them all there, too. In their heist, Cleo would rob with carjacks and throw all this stuff out.
00:31:02
Speaker 4: I always thought that was the dumbest shit. That was always so dumb to me. I got it, and it made sense for her as a character, but that was always, even when I was a kid, well, not a kid, but going into adulthood, as we say, Ken, watching this, I'm like, man, why would she do that? That don't make sense.
00:31:17
Speaker 1: Because she never really got caught. I think she did get caught because they had a file on her.
00:31:21
Speaker 4: Didn't they mention it? They mentioned it.
00:31:23
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was part of her MO, though. I think in this particular case, I think that was something that she was doing. I think she got caught because, of course, just to mention for people listening that may not have watched it, she used to jack cars for Black Sam. That's how they had the relationship. He was able to get that favor from him. That's true. But I don't know if they said that that was kind of her thing, that she would always do that.
00:31:47
Speaker 4: She did it.
00:31:48
Speaker 1: She did it in this movie.
00:31:49
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, gotcha, gotcha. But I don't know if that's... Oh, if she always did that when she stole the car.
00:31:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was kind of part of her M.O. Got it.
00:31:53
Speaker 4: Okay, understood.
00:31:54
Speaker 1: But you're right. It was breadcrumbs, and every time there's a bank rub, Robin said, there's some CDs on the ground.
00:31:59
Speaker 4: Yeah. Stupid.
00:32:00
Speaker 1: You know, but she didn't know any better.
00:32:02
Speaker 4: She didn't.
00:32:03
Speaker 1: She always played good records, though. Because I think the first one was.
00:32:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, she did when she rolled off.
00:32:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Airbnb rockin'..
00:32:10
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't she take her CDs with her? It's not like she didn't have time. Right. She
could have just put it in a little jumpsuit she had on, yeah?
00:32:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
00:32:23
Speaker 2: But, yeah, a couple of heights went through well. I think 12,000 the first one. It keeps getting, you know, bigger and bigger. The second one, I think, they had.
00:32:36
Speaker 6: 10,000 apiece or whatever.
00:32:37
Speaker 1: But they went through that first.
00:32:39
Speaker 4: They ran through the first one and the second one.
00:32:41
Speaker 1: Definitely did. She was buying all this shit for her.
00:32:43
Speaker 4: The second one was like 75 grand apiece.
00:32:46
Speaker 1: And that's the one that got stolen by Luther. Luther punk ass.
00:32:52
Speaker 6: Hey, Luther had a time, boy.
00:32:54
Speaker 3: Boy, he got a Jerry girl when he got him a white horse.
00:32:58
Speaker 1: He said, bro.
00:32:59
Speaker 6: Luther couldn't believe his luck, man. He said, I quit. I sold the company.
00:33:07
Speaker 4: Oh, shit, that was good.
00:33:09
Speaker 1: Oh, 75,000.
00:33:09
Speaker 3: I guess it was 75 for four, so I don't know what the math is on that.
00:33:12
Speaker 4: 75 for four, 300,000. You didn't just do that just now.
00:33:16
Speaker 6: You really like it in math?
00:33:18
Speaker 4: I take the front numbers and add them and then add the zeros.
00:33:20
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I'm so bad at math. Anyway, yeah, 300K, I quit my job too, probably.
00:33:27
Speaker 4: Yeah. But that was funny.
00:33:29
Speaker 2: You know, I think my thing is, how the hell did he find the shit? I don't have an answer to that shit.
00:33:33
Speaker 6: It was an event.
00:33:34
Speaker 4: They hid it in an event.
00:33:35
Speaker 6: But why was he in the event? I had the same question. We don't know, Spike.
00:33:40
Speaker 1: Why was he in the event?
00:33:42
Speaker 4: Good point.
00:33:43
Speaker 7: Because they hid it in there thinking no one would go in there. Why would Luther go in the vent? Unless he saw them go in.
00:33:48
Speaker 1: Well, how would he have seen it?
00:33:49
Speaker 2: Like, there are no cameras. He's not cleaning the fucking buildings himself.
00:33:53
Speaker 4: Yeah. They should have showed like them leaving a screw off or something like that.
00:33:57
Speaker 7: But even if they left a screw off, why would he be walking around looking for loose screws on vents?
00:34:00
Speaker 4: Because, you know, sometimes if you take a screw off a vent, it'll make a little noise because the air is going out.
00:34:04
Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
00:34:04
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.
00:34:05
Speaker 4: They could have made that work, but y'all are right. They should have showed it.
00:34:08
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:34:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:34:08
Speaker 3: I did wonder that, but it didn't ruin anything. But I was like, how did he know to look in there?
00:34:12
Speaker 1: Every time I watch it, somebody needs to ask Gary F. Gary Gray about that. Like, how the fuck did he find that money?
00:34:18
Speaker 2: But that was, you know, the motivation for the final heist for them as well. So he took the money. And then, of course, now they got a murder charge because T.T.
00:34:32
Speaker 1: Killed Luther. T.T.
00:34:33
Speaker 4: Stupid ass.
00:34:35
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he pulled a gun.
00:34:38
Speaker 7: I guess they're not pro, so I guess that does make the scene make sense. Because you watch it and you're like, why wasn't someone watching him? But then it's like, well, they're not professionals at this. They're just four dumbass women from the hood. But this whole scene was really, really, really good. It sure was. But yeah, I was like, oh my God, T.T.
00:34:59
Speaker 3: Done killed Luther. And he was knee deep in that white stuff.
00:35:04
Speaker 7: The funniest shit, I laughed so hard when she walked in and said, get out that pussy for a minute, Luther.
00:35:10
Speaker 6: I was, I don't know why it was so funny, but I was crying. I was like, oh my God, Queen Latifah is so bad. She's so bad. Get out that pussy for a minute, Luther.
00:35:22
Speaker 1: What?
00:35:23
Speaker 6: Oh, shit.
00:35:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, that scene was really good.
00:35:25
Speaker 7: Especially like when she put the license plate, the driver's license.
00:35:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good. Yeah, that's a dope scene from that movie.
00:35:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really good.
00:35:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she was like, can I go home now?
00:35:38
Speaker 2: She was like, hell nah. And she was looking all menacing and evil. Like, ah, shit, I wouldn't have snitched either.
00:35:44
Speaker 4: Hell no. Fuck that.
00:35:46
Speaker 1: You got it. Hell no. Although, they don't check you.
00:35:51
Speaker 4: If she had pointed out right there, they would have locked up.
00:35:54
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, because she had it in her pocket.
00:35:57
Speaker 4: But I guess they just bring you in.
00:35:59
Speaker 3: Wait, but did she still have it in her pocket? I thought she just did this as like a reminder.
00:36:03
Speaker 4: She just did it as a reminder.
00:36:04
Speaker 1: You're probably right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:08
Speaker 7: Another really good scene. But they were looking at her. Wouldn't they notice her do this?
00:36:13
Speaker 6: Yes.
00:36:14
Speaker 3: And be like, what was that?
00:36:15
Speaker 1: Yep. But what are you going to do? Yep. They would have exactly done that.
00:36:24
Speaker 2: Mike, Spike, one of my favorite scenes is when the first one went well and Cleo was dancing the whole time.
00:36:35
Speaker 6: Woo!
00:36:38
Speaker 1: Woo!
00:36:40
Speaker 6: It's like, this is awful!
00:36:44
Speaker 4: She was in her bag. She was getting to it.
00:36:49
Speaker 1: That's that part you talk about, you're like, what? Oh, my God. I was like, why is she doing that? Stop it. That's annoying.
00:36:57
Speaker 2: I think it's probably one of the memorable.
00:37:00
Speaker 4: Scenes, though. Yeah, for sure.
00:37:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
00:37:04
Speaker
2: That's all I wanted to mention there.
00:37:13
Speaker 4: I didn't realize on the last heist how the getaway was so bad. Is that where they busted the wall and all that?
00:37:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro. Like, come on.
00:37:21
Speaker 4: All of that was ridiculous. Wait, wait. To even go in there with the police dude. Because the police dude was right there when they went in.
00:37:28
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing.
00:37:30
Speaker 6: I was like, why did y'all go in?
00:37:31
Speaker 4: The police is right there, bro.
00:37:33
Speaker 1: Like, wait a minute. Well, no, it wasn't.
00:37:34
Speaker 2: The security guard was there. The security guard walked out the bank. The cops wasn't there.
00:37:38
Speaker 6: Oh, that's true.
00:37:39
Speaker 4: But then a cop walked up, right? Because he called for backup. The dude who was out there called the police for backup.
00:37:45
Speaker 1: I think they were in the building, though, by then.
00:37:47
Speaker 7: The dude that was outside that was getting the homeless guy, I'm pretty sure, yeah, he was just a security guard.
00:37:52
Speaker 4: Okay, I thought that was a cop.
00:37:53
Speaker 7: So y'all might be right. I think the cop might have come after that. And by the time the cop came, I think they.
00:37:57
Speaker 3: Were already inside.
00:37:58
Speaker 4: And then Cleo notices it and goes steal another car.
00:38:01
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:38:02
Speaker 4: And drives through the wall.
00:38:03
Speaker 7: And busts it through the wall. I was like, this movie is ridiculous, but I'm fucking with it.
00:38:06
Speaker 6: I'm fucking with it.
00:38:07
Speaker 4: It was a dope scene, but it was like, come on, bro, really?
00:38:10
Speaker 1: You see her walking to the guy, I think the guns are behind her.
00:38:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fire.
00:38:14
Speaker 2: It was stupid, but I didn't think about it.
00:38:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, how stupid it was at the time, but I just rolled with it.
00:38:21
Speaker 4: You just rolled with it. Because at this point, you love it. You like the characters. You like the story. The writing's good. At this point, it's like, yeah, let's see it. You're rooting for them to get away. Yeah.
00:38:30
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:38:31
Speaker 7: But that scene was still pretty well choreographed. She's leaning out the window shooting. I was like, man, this is crazy.
00:38:37
Speaker 2: The only thing, my thing was when they drove out and now they're backing up.
00:38:43
Speaker 1: Because T.T. got shot, too. Because at this point, the detectives rolled up.
00:38:46
Speaker 6: Wait, was it the same scene?
00:38:48
Speaker 1: We're talking about the same one?
00:38:49
Speaker 7: I thought that was after. The one where she busted through the wall with the truck.
00:38:56
Speaker 4: That was the last one.
00:38:56
Speaker 1: Downtown Federal Bank.
00:38:57
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, okay.
00:38:58
Speaker 3: This one was sad. I did not expect T.T. 's goofy ass to get shot.
00:39:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember the first time I saw that. That was sad. That was one of the moments.
00:39:07
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:39:08
Speaker 4: The first time you saw it. Because she was talking to her. That was too much. They did that well.
00:39:15
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:39:15
Speaker 4: She said, you're going to be okay.
00:39:16
Speaker 7: Okay.
00:39:16
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:39:17
Speaker 1: Just take care of my baby.
00:39:21
Speaker 4: That was really sad.
00:39:22
Speaker 2: And I always wonder, like, because they had the money. They really didn't have a way out anyway. But.
00:39:31
Speaker 1: Cleo was like, get some more. And she was like, don't be greedy.
00:39:34
Speaker 4: Yep, so it was Cleo's fault.
00:39:35
Speaker 2: So, you know, but I still think, though, even though she was being greedy, there still.
00:39:41
Speaker 1: Wasn't going to be a way out because the cops had already been outside.
00:39:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, they was out there waiting on them.
00:39:45
Speaker 1: So a good plan just went awry, but just... Bad luck. Yeah.
00:39:52
Speaker 2: You know, but, and just to mention that Keith is at a bar because Stoney was like, yeah, why don't you go down here?
00:39:59
Speaker 1: I'll meet you down there. And that's where he was.
00:40:00
Speaker 4: He realized he put two and two together.
00:40:03
Speaker 1: Did he or did he see it on the, because I think I may have looked at the camera.
00:40:06
Speaker 4: I think he put two and two together when he was at the bar being stood up and did he seen the bank thing? He was like, oh, shit.
00:40:13
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought he put it together when the cops said something and they were showing him.
00:40:17
Speaker 4: A video or something. I may be wrong.
00:40:19
Speaker 6: I may be wrong.
00:40:20
Speaker 4: You've seen it more than I have.
00:40:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was walking through that bank sad. He was.
00:40:24
Speaker 4: He lost the best piece of ass.
00:40:26
Speaker 1: I ever had. He was a little upset about that.
00:40:29
Speaker 4: Lost my Cinderella.
00:40:30
Speaker 2: But yes, but this is like this big, whole dramatic chase at the end. Dre and Black Sam, well, Black Sam is watching. He was like, yeah, you know, he messing with your money. He messing with my money.
00:40:43
Speaker 4: That was so good. This whole thing, like you said, was so good. To cut to Black This is the only time Dre was serviceable as an actor. Like, just watching him on the TV, it felt like he was there. It felt like the OJ shit. Like, he was there watching it. They did a really good job of presenting it that way. But the whole, like, chase scene at the end, I feel like they nailed each part of it. Yeah, I agree. The Vivica Fox and her splitting up, the y'all get out so I can drive, all of this shit. Every piece, the getting on the bus, the cops seeing her, like, All of it worked.
00:41:16
Speaker 3: Agree 100%.
00:41:16
Speaker 4: Like, they just put a perfect cap on this movie, but especially
the Cleo scene. That's one of my favorite movie scenes, I feel like, of all time.
00:41:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they got me.
00:41:25
Speaker 7: Like, when she drove through the cars and she had her head down, I was like, damn, I killed my girl Cleo with her bad acting ass.
00:41:32
Speaker 3: But she was just acting, pretending to be dead. And she kicked the car open.
00:41:36
Speaker 6: I was just like... yo, get him, fucking get him, get him, get him, get him, Cleo.
00:41:43
Speaker 1: Thanks. It didn't work, though.
00:41:45
Speaker 7: They shot the shit out of her. And then it was the absolute worst acting performance I think I've ever seen.
00:41:51
Speaker 4: Oh, with Vivica Fox and dude?
00:41:52
Speaker 6: No, when Cleo got shot. Oh, when she got shot. And she spun around and was just like, oh, God, they shot me.
00:41:58
Speaker 4: No, that was bad.
00:42:01
Speaker 3: No, the Vivica Fox scene was.
00:42:03
Speaker 4: I forgot that's one of my favorite movies. What's the fucking procedure when there's a gun to your head? That shit was fire, nigga. And she turned around and ran. I was like, think I'm about to shoot my girl in the back. Shut the shit up.
00:42:16
Speaker 7: And they did, and then she sees it from the window. That was such a good-ass scene, man.
00:42:21
Speaker 4: Oh, can you imagine? You're watching it. You can't even really react to it.
00:42:25
Speaker 7: No, you can't because you don't want anybody on the bus to see you. Oh, that was so good. That was her last friend left.
00:42:31
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:42:32
Speaker 3: And she had to watch her get shot in the middle of the street.
00:42:37
Speaker 6: Fuck.
00:42:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was really good. It doesn't make any sense, of course.
00:42:40
Speaker 1: No.
00:42:40
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter.
00:42:41
Speaker 1: Thank you.
00:42:41
Speaker 6: How you just get on that bus? That was just ridiculous.
00:42:45
Speaker 4: No, I mean.
00:42:45
Speaker 2: No, why are you watching? You're on the window. And you're watching. And, you know, he looks up. He was like, all right, well, I've been hell-bent on capturing you.
00:42:53
Speaker 1: And you kind of made it.
00:42:54
Speaker 4: Well, I killed your brother. I just killed your friend.
00:42:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they're trying to show that.
00:42:58
Speaker 4: They're trying to show. They was trying to really do the white savior thing for that cop guy. True that.
00:43:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were.
00:43:02
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:43:04
Speaker 7: I just meant it didn't make sense that she turned around and started running.
00:43:06
Speaker 2: The one cop was like, fuck this nigga, you ain't getting away. It was a black one too, right? I think she opened fire first. And then the white guy shot.
00:43:15
Speaker 7: Wait, what?
00:43:16
Speaker 4: I thought it was the people back there. You talking about Rock's wife?
00:43:20
Speaker 6: I don't think she shot.
00:43:21
Speaker 1: Did she? I thought she fired this first shot. And then they asked... They didn't really show it, so I don't really know.
00:43:30
Speaker 3: I thought it was the one cop that was like kneeled down, but maybe you're right.
00:43:34
Speaker 1: You might be right. Honestly, they didn't show it.
00:43:36
Speaker 2: I just remember when they showed her, it looked like she really wanted to pull the trigger.
00:43:40
Speaker 1: She did. Yeah.
00:43:41
Speaker 4: Because he said, stop it. Stop it, goddammit.
00:43:44
Speaker 1: Don't you shoot.
00:43:45
Speaker 6: Hold your fire. Hold your fire, goddammit. Oh, man.
00:43:50
Speaker 1: Wow. Took out Frankie, man. Frankie.
00:43:52
Speaker 6: Oh, that was so sad.
00:43:53
Speaker 1: Don't go behind him. Frankie was the truth.
00:43:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was.
00:43:58
Speaker 1: Was she? Yeah.
00:43:58
Speaker 7: Why were you in the middle of the fucking street with a fucking duffel bag?
00:44:04
Speaker 6: Show some fucking discretion.
00:44:05
Speaker 2: She didn't make the bus. I think the bus was just pulling up. I think she was going to get on the bus stop. I think that was the bus stop.
00:44:11
Speaker 1: I think. I don't know.
00:44:12
Speaker 4: She was still in the middle of the fucking street.
00:44:14
Speaker 1: She just didn't make it. How they found her, I don't know.
00:44:17
Speaker 6: The helicopters. That's why I was assuming.
00:44:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, because one of them went into the parking garage. I'm not mistaken. They went in separate directions and.
00:44:25
Speaker 2: Ran up through the tunnel, but we didn't really see where they went. Yeah, we just saw her get on the bus with the hat and stuff like that. This holds up, man.
00:44:36
Speaker 4: This is like training day in the sense of, well, I enjoy training day more, but that's not taking anything away from this. This still holds. It's like when I watch this again for this review, it's like, damn, man, I forgot. I used to love this fucking movie, man.
00:44:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just real quick. So you were right.
00:44:51
Speaker 2: The second heist was the one where she drove through the building.
00:44:57
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.
00:44:58
Speaker 2: Because Cleo was driving. And the last heist at Downtown Federal, Frankie was driving.
00:45:03
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:45:03
Speaker 4: A regular car, right?
00:45:05
Speaker 1: Yeah. Frankie was outside driving.
00:45:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. You're right.
00:45:08
Speaker 1: And because Cleo opened fire. Because remember, it was Cleo, Stoney, and T.T.
00:45:12
Speaker 4: Yep, you're right.
00:45:13
Speaker 2: And he was trying to talk all three of them down. That's when they took off their masks and they were about to give up.
00:45:18
Speaker 7: And then the security guard jumped out and fucking shot T.T.
00:45:22
Speaker 3: For no damn reason.
00:45:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. So go ahead and delete your comments. We've issued a correction.
00:45:27
Speaker 4: You know they're still going to type it.
00:45:28
Speaker 1: I know, but you can really delete it, though.
00:45:30
Speaker 3: Well, actually, Ken, what happened to it?
00:45:33
Speaker 4: Well, that was the third one.
00:45:34
Speaker 1: Please delete the comment, okay? Damn. Shut up. But, yeah, we just had to get it right. But, yeah, I do agree. It holds up. You didn't talk about the end? Huh?
00:45:48
Speaker 4: You didn't talk about the end? Her being in Mexico.
00:45:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to get there.
00:45:52
Speaker 6: Oh, I thought you were wrapping up.
00:45:53
Speaker 1: I was doing both. But, yeah, I was going to say, but, yeah, I do agree. It does hold up.
00:45:59
Speaker 2: I think when I was thinking about the ending, seeing her leave and get away, Mike, I couldn't help but think about Queen and Slim, bro. Only in the sense that we have three people that died and F. Gary was like, we're going to have this one person who lost this thing, everything, including her boo, and we're going to let her escape. So the way the others kind of died kind of made sense. He could have easily have had her arrested too.
00:46:30
Speaker 3: Lena Waithe would have killed them. Would have killed her, for real.
00:46:33
Speaker 1: For real. Lena Waithe would have had the cops shoot up the whole damn... The whole bus.
00:46:37
Speaker 3: Every black person on the bus just did.
00:46:39
Speaker 6: The bus blew up on the way to Mexico.
00:46:42
Speaker 3: The one cop jumps out with a fucking rocket launcher and.
00:46:45
Speaker 6: Just blows up the whole fucking bus.
00:46:46
Speaker 1: So I did like.
00:46:47
Speaker 2: That's one of the things I like about this movie is that at least one of.
00:46:50
Speaker 1: Them got away. Yes, I agree.
00:46:51
Speaker 4: I don't need a happy ending every time, but it was good to see it in this movie. That was dope to see. It was a dramatic happy ending. Yeah, and they did it well. Like, she wasn't some... Like, she was afraid of freedom and money, but, like, she was genuinely mourning her friends.
00:47:05
Speaker 1: She's still somewhat in prison. Yeah.
00:47:07
Speaker 4: And the score, too, I think, was another great placement of that song. I'm Missing You with Brandy.
00:47:12
Speaker 1: It's, like, great.
00:47:13
Speaker 4: That was really good.
00:47:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, thinking about her friends.
00:47:16
Speaker 2: And like you said earlier, they made it make sense why the cop would be like, all right.
00:47:21
Speaker 1: Because, you know, he was remorseful.
00:47:24
Speaker 2: Um, he even had the conversation with the sheriff when he was like, yo, I think she's involved.
00:47:28
Speaker 1: The sheriff was like, bro, you just killed an innocent kid and we still getting right for that. What part of NL do you not understand?
00:47:34
Speaker 7: Right.
00:47:34
Speaker 1: Leave her alone. Yeah.
00:47:36
Speaker 2: But, uh, and then that was it. And then she called, oh boy. And I liked that. He was like, I'm glad you're safe.
00:47:44
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:47:44
Speaker 3: It was really good, man.
00:47:46
Speaker 4: Really good ending.
00:47:49
Speaker 1: And that was it.
00:47:50
Speaker 6: Now I see why I heard those rumors.
00:47:52
Speaker 7: Years ago about them remaking this, and motherfuckers like, you bet not.
00:47:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, leave that alone.
00:47:57
Speaker 6: Just leave it alone.
00:47:58
Speaker 4: Leave that alone, because you can't do nothing but fuck it up.
00:48:01
Speaker 1: You don't want to see a series, bro?
00:48:03
Speaker 6: A series of Senators?
00:48:05
Speaker 2: Like, you know, how they do a carry in Crystal Lake.
00:48:07
Speaker 1: How did Cleo overcome Cleo? Right. Oh, Jesus.
00:48:11
Speaker 6: That is some shit that they would do.
00:48:14
Speaker 1: Cleo story.
00:48:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cleo.
00:48:15
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:48:16
Speaker 4: The set it off prequel. I'm cool. I'm cool.
00:48:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
00:48:20
Speaker 6: Good movie, man.
00:48:21
Speaker 1: Good movie.
00:48:21
Speaker 4: I'm glad you liked it.
00:48:22
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, me too. Me too.
00:48:25
Speaker 2: And that's going to do it. That's going to be it for us, man.
00:48:27
Speaker 1: Damn, man.
00:48:30
Speaker 2: You know, too bad Rob wasn't here. But we'll get his thoughts on it later. And we'll catch you guys next time.
00:48:39
Speaker 4: We out. Peace. Peace.