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You know, the most beautiful concert or the most, I would not say perfect, but the most
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rewarding concerts, it's not last mistake concerts, but then the concerts that I felt
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the most engaged with music, with myself and the music and inevitably with audience receive
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as well.
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Welcome back to the PianoPod.
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I am your host, Yukimisong.
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Thanks for tuning in for the second half of season three, episode 14 with a guest, Dr.
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Ji-Yoon Kim.
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Hope you enjoyed part one of this episode.
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In part two, we're going to tackle some philosophical topics like how do we define success as a
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musician and how can we keep the classical music industry thriving and relevant in this
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fast paced society and more.
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Before continuing the show, I want to welcome everyone listening to the PianoPod for the
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first time.
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I'm a classical pianist and educator from New York City, passionate about creating a
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thriving and meaningful community of the classical music industry through this podcast.
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Please visit yukimisongstudio.com to find out more about my work.
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In each episode of the PianoPod, I interview a guest speaker who has been breaking exciting
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So dear friends, here is part two of the PianoPod season three, episode 14 with Dr. Ji-Yoon
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Kim.
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Please enjoy the show.
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You are listening to the PianoPod where we talk to the brightest minds in the industry
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about how they are bringing the piano into the 21st century.
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And then I totally enjoyed reading your book whenever you're ready.
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Actually, I knew of you from YouTube, you know, one of the algorithms and then triggers
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and I saw your video, but then afterwards during the COVID time, I got an email from
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probably your publicist to reach out to me because we started a podcast and then you
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just published a book, right?
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And then we didn't get to interview you till now.
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I didn't get to, but I was reading the book during that time and it was very, very good.
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And then starting out sort of, you know, it's intended for all the readers, not just limited
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to pianists.
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So the way you're explaining, you know, this is like, this book is like a movement of sonata
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and then it goes like this.
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And then in each chapter, you have this sort of exercise for readers to do certain things.
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And then the first chapter, first few chapters were easy to read.
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Then it gets actually quite deeper philosophical.
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And then I was able to reread again to just to prepare for this interview and it was very
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encouraging.
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Can you tell me how this is structured and what motivated you, what inspired you to write
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this book?
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I think, you know, I mean, the whenever you're ready is where, where it comes from is that
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every concert stage, often there's a stage manager holding that door to the stage and
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say whenever you're ready.
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And then I look at that person and thinking, am I ready?
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Will I ever be ready?
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But then I'm thinking deep, deep in that moment and create a courage and strength within myself
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and make a decision to walk towards the stage.
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And that's in order to make that transition into the split second of whenever you're ready
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to, okay, in order to make that transition, I have to do so million things daily basis.
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It's not just easy.
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Okay, I'm ready.
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Go.
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So much of a mind training, so much of a how lifestyle reflects to that this is making.
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And so that I wanted to this book to be like written concert.
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So that's why I structured in such a way the movements that each movement has deal with
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the different topic and the first movement about like perseverance, discipline, and then
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about second movement is negativity and the creativity on the third movement and fourth
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movement is about connection with oneself or others.
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And the fifth movement about the body self, the environment.
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And then in between there's intermission where I get to be a missionary of classical music
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again and talk about one of my favorite pieces.
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And there's a QR code for them to go to listen to it.
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And then there's encore at the end.
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And what I was thinking is that whenever I prepare for a concert, it feels like a preparing
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for life.
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And I often think that we all have a stage called life.
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Whenever we have a difficult phone call, when we have to face a difficult decisions, a difficult
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conversation, embark something new unknown, life challenges us.
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But that very moment like you still I'm going to do it.
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That is what I wanted to give the sense of inspirations, those of strength to the readers
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in their performance of life.
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Whenever you are ready.
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And it's not like go do it.
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But it's like I'm giving you a moment.
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But it's on you.
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For musicians, I think they get it because they live that.
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But most more importantly, for other people through the lens of classical musician, and
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by you going through my life, they realize, oh, that is a life that I do have a stage
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called life.
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So that I wanted to this book to be not from someone who knows better, went through more,
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but more as a fellow friends and fellow human being who struggles as much.
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so that we all go through this.
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It's not only you, me too.
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But this work actually, this really helped.
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So that's why my voice is not dominant, but more of, hey, did you try that?
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It worked for me.
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Then you're like, you know, maybe many, know many of these tools that I mentioned in the
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book already.
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But since because I say it, because you feel like I'm your friend, you think like, oh,
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maybe I try meditation.
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I know that's good, but maybe something out there.
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You know, that was my goal for people to remind that these tools are already always there.
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But from my delivery, just like classical music through my performance, they get it.
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Maybe there's one or two more people they pick up on those life tools to make their
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life better.
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In the first movement of the book, you know, and I really appreciate you for clarifying
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the myths about becoming or being a pianist.
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Like everybody says, oh, you're so talented.
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You can just play play on the fly.
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But you have no idea how much of a work how much of ups and downs of life to go through
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to get there.
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Right.
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So and I love the quote.
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It is not willpower, but habit that makes things happen.
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Because you know, willpower is exhausting.
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And that's why a lot of people quit.
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But the delayed gratification is a really difficult lesson to learn and teach also.
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And so where is a good place to start learning this important lesson in life like of delayed
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gratification, meaning building a good habit?
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I think it's early as possible, which is why now it's good to place to learn.
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I think it's important to know that every learning has the learning curves like boiling
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water, it wouldn't boil until 100 Celsius.
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But you all alone, it has been boiling, but we don't feel it.
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You know, but we have to believe that we are making progress, even though we don't see
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a progress.
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And I think that is really important to for us to remind ourselves.
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I get frustrated, too, because I practice this much.
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I thought it would get better, but it's not yet.
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But then it's not yet.
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It's not never.
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But it's not yet.
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And the growth mindset is something that we can train ourselves.
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It's not like you have and you don't.
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But it's I can make it better.
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Maybe not yet, but I'm making it.
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You know, so I think focusing on the system, which is a habit, is the key, because if I
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have to think when I'm going to practice a day, every single day, have to think about
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it, it's exhausting already because my day I have to do this, I have to do that.
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When I'm going to do it, it takes already like I'm exhausted even thinking about it.
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But if I have a habit of just a certain amount, not all the time, but certain amount of practice
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is right after breakfast, I'm going to practice in an hour or two, then that is secured no
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matter what, because I became a habit after breakfast.
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Even though I have this complex, I don't want to practice.
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I'm already sit down and play piano.
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But you know, it's funny people think that it's my willpower to make me practice every
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day.
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But it comes from I know why I know already own why.
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Why is I love piano, right?
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But I don't question that why anymore once I own it.
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I don't question like, do I want to practice?
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Do I love piano?
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Like, of course you love someone today and you don't love someone tomorrow because you
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know, they saw and so acted this way, but it's an old couple.
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They love each other.
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They know even though they hate each other, they hurt themselves, you know, each other.
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They do things for each other.
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They do it by showing the action.
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Not made not feeling it's so flimsy thing.
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You know, you would focusing on Oh, do I love piano?
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Do I love this person?
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You know, the answer is that it will change every single day, even every hour it might
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change.
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You know, so someday we like this and someday we don't.
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Sometimes we angry.
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Sometimes we happy, happy, but joy, but sad.
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All of it.
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It's so flimsy.
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Our emotions are not reliable thing.
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So once you own the love, why then I even though I would think that I hate practicing,
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but I ignore that chatter because I don't question that.
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I don't question the core meaning, but I sit down and play.
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Once I sit down and practice it 99% 99 time, I love it.
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You know, not maybe first five minutes.
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It's still there's a conflict.
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But then I get into certain section like, Oh, this needs some cleaning up.
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Oh, this Oh, this is nice.
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You know, more likely 30 minutes pass by an hour easy.
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And then after an hour, I feel good because I overcome myself.
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I made music.
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I actually enjoyed it.
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But if I question it, when I do it, then I already adjusted and I don't think I would
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keep up with piano practicing.
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You know, I'm 42 years old.
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I started when I was four, 38 years of practicing every day.
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Forget it.
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Right?
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I mean, ask someone to do something constantly all the time other than eating and sleeping.
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You know, this is not major human, you know, instinct thing, you know?
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So for me, it's very important to make that transition easy as possible.
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I prioritize it and try not to think as much as possible, at least the first section of
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the practice.
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Then if I wanted to add more, some days more, some days less.
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So then whenever you wanted to add on to your life, if that is important to you, then own
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that why.
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Simply ask seriously why, because you can go back and forth.
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So let's say that, you know, the exercise is important to you, and you really want to
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make that working out as a part of your life.
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That you don't question that you want to do it, would not want to do it.
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Once you own it, then make a system.
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Let's say you wanted to, you know, work out every single morning.
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When after we wake up or after before breakfast, then make it a small, very, very small amount,
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like 10 minutes of stretching until you get that habit into your system for at least,
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you know, a couple a month or two.
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Don't push yourself too much because you have to have a longevity of a lifestyle, not like
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a month.
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Gym every single day, and from the February, everybody's like go back to their couch, you
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know.
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If you want something in your life, you have to start slow.
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But then what I really emphasize is that the two day rule, which is you can skip a day,
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but not two days in a row.
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I do skip practice some time, but never two days in a row.
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So that rule gives me some room to wiggle, but then ask myself gently back into the track
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and then also not too hard on myself.
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Yes, you can skip a day.
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It's fine.
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The world still continues.
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But what is important is that you gain yourself again and continue.
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So I think it's very, very important that you own why and then create a system that
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hopefully that system is actually right after you always do, which is eating is always good
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to tag along or drinking coffee or something already existing habit.
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You build on to it and make small, very small.
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If you want to read a book, just read up one page, not a whole chapter, you know.
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And then every time you finish, you know, we always feel good.
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Like an hour of practice afterwards, I feel great.
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And I remember that feeling savory.
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Just take a moment to think how amazing that feel after workout or after the practice.
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So every time you feel that resistance, I don't want to work out or I don't want to
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practice.
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Go ahead to feel that joy.
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Think that joy, that moment.
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I'm going to feel amazing afterwards.
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Then it will be easier for you to go there.
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And then the truth is that we are not in the marathon.
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You're not going to become Olympian by working out.
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You're not, you know, even though there is a miniature goal or long term goal of whatever
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we do or piano practicing or maybe concert coming up.
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But the real truth is that I love playing piano.
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I am playing piano.
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I'm expressing my love of piano every day by doing it, which means I'm loving this very
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day.
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I think that's the key.
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You're not going somewhere.
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You're thinking so much of a goal, then you lose why you're doing it.
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The reason you're doing it because you want to do the very thing.
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So thinking about the activity and the reason we are doing it is so that you love your today.
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Yeah, great advice.
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Now, so creating a habit of action, but also movement too.
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You talk about creating a good habit of your mind, guard your mind.
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And then so let's talk about the elephant in the room, you know, negativity in our industry.
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So I sometimes I have quite a good group of students, advanced students, and then they
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get more harsh criticism than others who are doing it for fun.
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Now there is a constructive feedback, of course, and then everybody should get that.
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But there's this insult that is just not really necessary.
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And sometimes people say, Oh, don't be so naive.
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You know, it's just a little feedback to help you.
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But this is actually not really a feedback.
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It's not really helpful for anybody, you know, when you something like this to happen.
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What do you think about this?
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Yeah, I think when you're young, it's definitely harder because you're forming yourself, your
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mind and if you have like, you know, very harsh teacher, if which is often in music,
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unfortunately, the higher their level is, it's harsh, they get and or parents, the more,
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you know, harsh parents that is very difficult.
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So I really empathize that the young people who go through it.
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But I think we also in the because this is the piano community as well as the dear pianist
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that your piano community, let's not be a nerd.
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Let's not it doesn't matter how so and so plays faster, this tempo and how they phrasing
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at the end of it.
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It doesn't matter.
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But I find that the more classical musicians ourselves are such a hard critic to each other.
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They degraded each other and saying, Oh, she's not that good.
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I don't know why she got that.
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Or oh, well, so on, so and so win the competition, which means that there's one last position
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in your in your life.
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Or you know, this scarcity mindset really is toxic.
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There is enough in this world that world love goes around the all the things you want to
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do beyond your imagination if you make that action.
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So that if you we start to compare each other, competition to each other, that's where it
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becomes toxic, whether that the so and so fellow pianist that advanced students think
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that, oh, well, he plays like, you know, I don't know, he was like, really sound bad,
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but he won that that that competition.
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I don't know what the judge was thinking, whatever that is, that it comes from jealousy
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and comes from the scarcity mindset and competition to each other.
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But if you think that, you know, just for a moment, so and so winning that competition,
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did it do anything harm to you?
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And think it as a joy.
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So and so win the competition.
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How joyous that is.
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If you kind of sense that joy and get a crumb of that joy for yourself, you can actually
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make your life so much more joyous.
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So then your life is much more positive.
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And I always find that without retrying, it's going to be always negative.
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Just know that it's always going to be negative.
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the world is more negative tendency.
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So especially negativity from outside world is that I said it's avoiding is not a sign
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of weakness.
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So because why you keep facing the trash, you just throw it away, rather than, you know,
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just look at it and talking about it.
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And I think the best advice that I could give for you for the negativity from outside is
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unless you accept the negativity into your heart, none of the negativity has that power.
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It's you allowing the negativity works to your heart.
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So I think it is important for you to recognize that it's not them.
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So whenever I go get into the trap all the time, but if so and so or some teacher or
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some outside of world to be negative towards me, then I chin up and think, try to ignore
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as much as possible.
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Again, it is not criticism, you know, like constructive feedback.
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It's coming from love.
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It's not coming from love.
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Then then I recognize that and then try to erase as soon as possible.
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And also, if I don't allow it, it doesn't have a power.
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If someone came to your house with all bag of, you know, filthy trash and throw it in
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your house, what would you do?
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You'll be like, what are you doing?
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But if you allow other people talking bad, and if you allow that, that means you allow
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in your living room in this filthy trash to your mind so that you have to protect it.
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You are the one who protects it.
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There's all the people out there is going to try to throw the garbage inside of your
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mind.
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So you're like, vigilant about it, and hopefully there's one last can trash can is coming into
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your mind.
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And the same goes with our mind, too.
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We always battle with negative and positive thoughts and negative thoughts are referred
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to as cognitive distortions.
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So sometimes we exaggerate.
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Let's say I made a little mistake on stage and then but in my mind, it's like, oh, my
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gosh, that was a fatal mistake.
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And I can't recover from that.
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In your book, you talk about it, too.
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But briefly, can you tell us?
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I think it is, you know, if we are talking in the context of the performance, performance
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anxiety, I would say we have to separate.
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Are you ready?
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Are you ready to perform yet?
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That's also I'm assuming all the tips that I actually want to give is based on you already
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you you all the steps that you made it efficient practice strategy and you are ready to perform.
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But still, there is performance anxiety.
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That's different thing.
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So I'm going to assume that you are absolutely ready to perform.
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And then then you this this negative voices in your head.
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And to know that the tiger inside of you never going to go away, no matter how advanced you
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are even Horvitz has to kicked out to the stage because he was like, I don't want to
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go to the stage.
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The manager will kick him out.
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You know, so it's not a depending on the level of your performance.
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It's human mind, you know, so just know that our pain is your pain, too.
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Then it feels a little easier to deal with it.
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And then we still have to deal with it, though.
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And I think that one of the most effective way to any issues that you have in your life,
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it's writing down.
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Writing gives you gives a cloding to your thoughts.
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If you only think in your mind that's just floating and, you know, in the randomly bites
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you.
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But if you start to write it down, it feels like, oh, it's nothing.
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We, as you said, is we tend to exaggerate.
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But if you actually grab it down and write it down, what exactly I'm worrying about,
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I am worrying about people think that I'm bad.
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I'm worrying about if I'm going to make them mistake, you know, so writing down all of
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the negative thoughts is bothering you.
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And define it, define it where this coming from.
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Is it coming from my own voice, from my teacher in the past?
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What is based on?
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And then also defend these tendencies with a positive voice like, no, you're going to
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be great.
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This performance, no matter what, it's going to be a beautiful experience.
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So you actually come back with this negativity with at least five different positive sentences.
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And that exercise helps in the moment of battle.
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I battle in the during the performance that, oh, the difficult section coming up.
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And then this angelic voice that you train so much and think, oh, you got this.
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You got this.
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And even if you make mistakes, it is just a small, you just pick it up and keep going.
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You know, all of those ready made, prepared, the positive sentence will help you.
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And also write the affirmation sentences saying, I am, I'm excited to play this concert.
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I'm going to connect with audience.
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I love expressing this music or, you know, all of this affirmation sentences that you
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say out loud, it's like fake it until make it.
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And also write a visualization in your actual performance, the most positive way in details
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on the day.
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You write it down, it sits, you know, read it out loud.
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This visualization technique is not, you know, unknown to other field is sports or Olympian
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will do all the time before their game.
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You know, so you, we have to give a food to the positive positivity more.
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Otherwise we all have a tendency to be more negative.
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So in that comes down to how we use words.
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I can't emphasize more about the power of words or how you say, whether writing or the
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say out loud, you do it with yourself or with others, but mostly saying out loud.
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Notice yourself how negatively you are saying, Oh, this is difficult.
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Oh, I'm going to make a mistake.
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That was horrible.
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You think that it would be, it would be okay because you're just telling to yourself, but
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it's not.
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But very, that moment you're giving the power to the negativity.
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So even though you think that moment that way, just don't say out loud, then at least
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you can make that into a little more power.
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So even when you're saying with others, notice yourself, are you saying something negative
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about this thing with others or someone else?
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Are you gosh, are you complaining?
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Are you giving a bad energy to someone?
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All of these things ultimately come back to you.
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So it's all of it is, it's to protect yourself, but it's also creating the environment so
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that more positive people are going to come to you.
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You know, negative people want to grab the negative people.
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They want to gather in the restaurant and talk about negative things.
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They love that.
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So you don't want to be part of it.
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If you choose P not to be in that negative group, you know, you will find out the world
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is great because there you will see those positive people.
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You're doing great.
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Oh my gosh.
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You're going to do great.
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Oh my gosh.
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I'm so excited for your project.
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Well, I can't wait to be there in your concert.
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They're not going to come back to you and I go, oh my gosh, that's going to be so difficult.
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How are you going to fund that?
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You create your own environment.
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That's the only way.
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And then, you know, going to movement three of your book, you talk about create dream
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play and then what struck me was the quote.
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You say, what is success?
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What does that success life look like to me?
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What is to you?
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You know, it's very difficult to live in this time of era.
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Everything is pneumatic, you know.
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So some people will say if you make X amount of money, that you are successful.
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If you're like a hundred hundred thousand a year is that successful?
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Is it two hundred thousand then successful?
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Is it eighty thousand?
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Then it's not successful.
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If you have a thousand, you know, hundred thousand followers, is that successful?
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If you win number one competition and then Cliven, is that successful?
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It may look successful to our eye.
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It's like, yeah, we'd love to win that competition.
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But then why do they are depressed?
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Why some people commit suicide?
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You know, they have millions and millions in their bank account.
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So, you know, I hope that we are not limiting ourselves to being happy only if you accomplish
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something tangible or expect of you, because that's a dangerous trap, because you can never
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get enough.
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If you get X amount, you need another.
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If you have a hundred thousand of spending, then you will.
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Your spending is so much that you need a two hundred thousand, you know.
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So I think it's very, very important for us to think life as a game, that all of your
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projects, all of these things, like it's fun game, you know, you push it as much as possible
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with all intensity.
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But then the outcome is not out of your control.
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If it's it's it's you just detaching yourself self value with what you do.
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I don't think that my dream of success is not depending on what I do.
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00:29:36,280
Yes, I do play piano.
447
00:29:36,280 -->
00:29:40,200
I do all these things, but it's not measure of my success.
448
00:29:40,200 -->
00:29:44,280
My success is the status of my being.
449
00:29:44,280 -->
00:29:50,440
I do what I love to do in my life daily basis.
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00:29:50,440 -->
00:29:56,840
My picture of success is not shaken by, you know, if I don't make that money or if I don't
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00:29:56,840 -->
00:30:03,520
get that concert or I fail something, it's not depending on that.
452
00:30:03,520 -->
00:30:14,280
I want to keep my mind content, happy, simple, calm and able to generate myself a self energy
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00:30:14,280 -->
00:30:20,040
of life so that I'm in a happy place on a daily basis.
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00:30:20,040 -->
00:30:23,920
You know, who can say to you, you are successful?
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00:30:23,920 -->
00:30:30,120
I mean, they're not they're they're not living my life if I say I'm happy.
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00:30:30,120 -->
00:30:31,120
I am.
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00:30:31,120 -->
00:30:32,920
That's a success.
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00:30:32,920 -->
00:30:38,400
So I really believe that you can be successful today.
459
00:30:38,400 -->
00:30:44,080
As of now, it's because it's based on your mind.
460
00:30:44,080 -->
00:30:49,100
So I want to get to your the recent project, see you very soon.
461
00:30:49,100 -->
00:30:54,680
But then I think the lockdown of 2020 had something to do with it, probably to get to
462
00:30:54,680 -->
00:30:55,680
that project.
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00:30:55,680 -->
00:31:00,400
So when I read your book, I kept all the quotes from the book.
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00:31:00,400 -->
00:31:02,280
So let me quote one more.
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00:31:02,280 -->
00:31:07,400
So you're saying in the book, we may need to find ways to deliver the core values of
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00:31:09,880
what we do without physical contact.
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00:31:09,880 -->
00:31:16,280
Even after this crisis, many jobs have disappeared and new ones have been and are being created.
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00:31:16,280 -->
00:31:21,360
As much as it can be daunting and frustrating, it can also be liberating to reset one's life
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00:31:22,360
course.
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00:31:22,360 -->
00:31:24,100
The change is already here.
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00:31:24,100 -->
00:31:28,840
And we just have to be much more active and forward thinking to accept it.
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00:31:28,840 -->
00:31:34,800
And quote, so I could not help but say amen out loud after reading that specific quote,
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00:31:34,800 -->
00:31:40,000
because I feel the same way and how but how can we keep the classical music tradition
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00:31:40,000 -->
00:31:43,080
while the world changes so rapidly?
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00:31:43,080 -->
00:31:47,680
First, we need to change with the change.
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00:31:47,680 -->
00:31:51,280
We can't just be stubborn.
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00:31:51,280 -->
00:31:58,920
Our classical musicians are also in heart, right, because we are dealing with Bach and
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00:31:58,920 -->
00:32:04,720
Mozart and love, you know, we can be in touch with those music because we have that soul
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00:32:04,720 -->
00:32:06,300
in us.
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00:32:06,300 -->
00:32:08,480
But we're only moving forward.
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00:32:08,480 -->
00:32:13,360
We're not going back to 1800, where one of the piano recitals is the most exciting thing
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00:32:13,360 -->
00:32:15,160
happening in their life.
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00:32:15,160 -->
00:32:18,920
So we have to kind of reassess where are we.
484
00:32:18,920 -->
00:32:24,280
You know, the good news is that what we're doing, as I said, the classical music is has
485
00:32:24,280 -->
00:32:28,720
the ultimate power and beauty, which is timeless.
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00:32:28,720 -->
00:32:31,760
So be confident with this content.
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00:32:31,760 -->
00:32:35,680
If we are selling, I don't know, like a laundry machine or something, you know, if you're
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00:32:35,680 -->
00:32:40,360
really confident this laundry machine is the best in the world, you will sell it.
489
00:32:40,360 -->
00:32:41,360
Right.
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00:32:41,360 -->
00:32:45,720
Same thing with the classical music has such a beauty and power.
491
00:32:45,720 -->
00:32:46,920
You believe in it.
492
00:32:46,920 -->
00:32:51,760
So then we have to just find a way to deliver.
493
00:32:51,760 -->
00:32:58,040
You know, I believe that people go crazy over Mozart and Chopin or Rachmaninoff.
494
00:32:58,040 -->
00:33:01,280
We just have to tweak the delivery.
495
00:33:01,280 -->
00:33:08,400
No more straightforward recital, you just show up and, you know, no talk at all and
496
00:33:08,400 -->
00:33:09,400
play intermission.
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00:33:09,400 -->
00:33:14,400
And yes, that tradition is still going and there are some people going too.
498
00:33:14,400 -->
00:33:19,200
But you that's the danger right there because the presenters and the concert boards are
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00:33:19,200 -->
00:33:25,720
older and older and the younger generation don't even bother to even go there.
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00:33:25,720 -->
00:33:27,520
But it's still continue.
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00:33:27,520 -->
00:33:33,080
I think we have to think about people focused.
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00:33:33,080 -->
00:33:40,720
You as a person who has a messenger, you know, so I think that change might be more connection
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00:33:40,720 -->
00:33:46,800
based, you know, people want connection as much as we have this fancy devices and all
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00:33:46,800 -->
00:33:48,480
and all of that.
505
00:33:48,480 -->
00:33:56,560
But we still want to be, you know, cozy up and hearing, listen, really listen, you know.
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00:33:56,560 -->
00:34:03,200
So I think when I even create an album, I create a manual, album manual, which is a
507
00:34:03,200 -->
00:34:09,480
very simple manual, which is can you spare an hour from your life, not as a background
508
00:34:09,480 -->
00:34:17,320
of music when you're cooking, but actually using good sound system and read each paragraph
509
00:34:17,320 -->
00:34:23,080
that I wrote about this piece and close your eyes and dive into an experience.
510
00:34:23,080 -->
00:34:24,880
Isn't that just simple?
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00:34:24,880 -->
00:34:29,840
But nobody ever told them, nobody ever told them how to listen.
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00:34:29,840 -->
00:34:35,920
They thought like music is something they hear in while they'll drive, you know.
513
00:34:35,920 -->
00:34:41,360
But since we know how to listen, because we know the beauty of live music or just hearing
514
00:34:41,360 -->
00:34:46,200
someone play in front of you in the living room, that connection.
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00:34:46,200 -->
00:34:55,440
So we wanted to, as a teacher mind or friend, empathetic mind, that you have to open yourself
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00:34:55,440 -->
00:35:01,840
to people, the vulnerability, like the belief in the power of storytelling.
517
00:35:01,840 -->
00:35:05,420
The storytelling can be, you know, I love this piece.
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00:35:05,420 -->
00:35:09,600
I hate this piece too, you know, because this is such a technical challenges.
519
00:35:09,600 -->
00:35:11,880
It's like, it drives me crazy.
520
00:35:11,880 -->
00:35:17,760
Better read it, start storytelling, you know, or open up your life and ask them to join
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00:35:17,760 -->
00:35:20,360
into the experience.
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00:35:20,360 -->
00:35:21,360
Passion is contagious.
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00:35:21,360 -->
00:35:26,080
If I think like, oh my gosh, this piece drives so good.
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00:35:26,080 -->
00:35:28,160
And then they'll be like, oh, what is it?
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00:35:28,160 -->
00:35:32,440
No, because I am so passionately talking about it.
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00:35:32,440 -->
00:35:38,120
So being a missionary of classical music, I believe that any small effort doesn't have
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00:35:38,120 -->
00:35:43,880
to be anything fancy or visual or illustration, doesn't have to be anything.
528
00:35:43,880 -->
00:35:49,120
We just make small tweak to want to connect.
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00:35:49,120 -->
00:35:54,040
That makes a big difference to the audience, especially the young audience.
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00:35:54,040 -->
00:36:00,800
And keep thinking about how could you deliver that music, how to set it up so people can
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00:36:00,800 -->
00:36:02,040
experience the deeper way.
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00:36:02,040 -->
00:36:04,400
We are not changing this one to the new age.
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00:36:04,400 -->
00:36:08,360
We are not going to be held all of a sudden drum set next to piano.
534
00:36:08,360 -->
00:36:12,840
Music is going to be right there, there, you know?
535
00:36:12,840 -->
00:36:21,520
I think what we want to do is that just how to get there and empathetic way, connect way,
536
00:36:21,520 -->
00:36:23,720
warm and friendly, you know?
537
00:36:23,720 -->
00:36:29,040
And then thinking as a, how much barrier can I get rid of?
538
00:36:29,040 -->
00:36:35,000
Is this bowing in between pieces necessary, intermission necessary?
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00:36:35,000 -->
00:36:37,000
Is it clapping in between necessary?
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00:36:37,000 -->
00:36:41,080
Question every tradition other than music itself.
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00:36:41,080 -->
00:36:47,800
Question it and try to different and experiment and see if people respond differently.
542
00:36:47,800 -->
00:36:51,160
You know, then they want to feel you.
543
00:36:51,160 -->
00:36:54,160
They want to feel you who delivers.
544
00:36:54,160 -->
00:36:59,240
Yes, they care about Mozart, but not as much as you.
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00:36:59,240 -->
00:37:07,440
So, bring yourself into a delivery man, a messenger, open up yourself, then people will
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00:37:07,440 -->
00:37:08,440
get it.
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00:37:08,440 -->
00:37:10,360
People will get the Mozart no matter what.
548
00:37:10,360 -->
00:37:11,360
Right.
549
00:37:11,360 -->
00:37:16,600
So, where does your this gift of seeing hope and despair and possibilities and failure
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00:37:16,600 -->
00:37:17,600
come from?
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00:37:17,600 -->
00:37:24,840
But, you know, I don't believe in toxic positivity either and you're not in denial of failures
552
00:37:24,840 -->
00:37:26,200
and despair, right?
553
00:37:26,200 -->
00:37:27,800
So where does this come from?
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00:37:27,800 -->
00:37:29,040
Is it therapy?
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00:37:29,040 -->
00:37:32,960
Is that a meditation you do or philosophy, philosophy you read?
556
00:37:32,960 -->
00:37:35,880
Or is it some sort of a religious belief?
557
00:37:35,880 -->
00:37:38,000
What is it?
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00:37:38,000 -->
00:37:44,780
I do believe the resilience that I have is strength that I have as something that probably
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00:37:44,780 -->
00:37:47,840
I cultivated throughout my life.
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00:37:47,840 -->
00:37:53,160
You know, I cannot say I only have difficult times because we all have difficult times
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00:37:53,160 -->
00:37:54,360
of life.
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00:37:54,360 -->
00:38:02,240
So, but I'm so thankful that my parents who gave me unconditional love so that I could
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00:38:02,240 -->
00:38:11,000
learn to love myself in the first place and not rely on others to give me that value to
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00:38:11,000 -->
00:38:12,000
me.
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00:38:12,000 -->
00:38:19,200
So, whenever the storm of my life hits me in a hard way, since I care for my life, my
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00:38:19,200 -->
00:38:26,520
own, I got up, started to walk again, knowing that life goes on, that it's still beautiful
567
00:38:26,520 -->
00:38:28,720
as it is today.
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00:38:28,720 -->
00:38:34,400
You know, funny but something I learned that when I was young about like going to dentists,
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00:38:34,400 -->
00:38:39,800
you know, like as much as I hated going to there, my mom always reminded me that, you
570
00:38:39,800 -->
00:38:44,920
know, the dental problem never goes away on its own, only worse and over time, right?
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00:38:44,920 -->
00:38:47,000
Better go and fix it now.
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00:38:47,000 -->
00:38:49,660
And I think it's similar to life.
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00:38:49,660 -->
00:38:52,120
Life is short and finite.
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00:38:52,120 -->
00:38:55,560
I wish it could last forever, but it doesn't.
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00:38:55,560 -->
00:39:03,240
You know, so in more days you waste with the negativity, the last days you would enjoy
576
00:39:03,240 -->
00:39:05,640
this beautiful time on earth.
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00:39:05,640 -->
00:39:13,600
And I think this limit of life gives one perspective of appreciation of what we already have.
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00:39:13,600 -->
00:39:19,320
But I also want to add that that is coming from all kinds of conscious training throughout
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00:39:19,320 -->
00:39:24,680
my life, especially in the efforts to see positive, being careful with words that I
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00:39:24,680 -->
00:39:32,520
said with others, writing and journaling all the time, being aware of my own voices through
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00:39:32,520 -->
00:39:38,920
meditation, daily meditation, and of course, always trying to learn something wisdom from
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00:39:38,920 -->
00:39:44,120
all of the people in my life that has a broader perspective.
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00:39:44,120 -->
00:39:46,600
And life is never easy.
584
00:39:46,600 -->
00:39:52,160
But I think it's definitely some pathway that we can learn.
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00:39:52,160 -->
00:39:56,520
You know, meditation was in the thousand years of history, yoga was thousands of years of
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00:39:56,520 -->
00:40:02,520
history that all people use somehow to deal with this life.
587
00:40:02,520 -->
00:40:08,880
And then we can learn from those wisdoms and adapt and make it easier for ourselves.
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00:40:08,880 -->
00:40:13,120
And I think, you know, I believe music is one of it to make it all better, you know.
589
00:40:13,120 -->
00:40:14,120
Right, right.
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00:40:14,120 -->
00:40:15,120
Absolutely.
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00:40:15,120 -->
00:40:20,040
Hey, friends and listeners, the piano part is in its third season.
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00:40:20,040 -->
00:40:25,840
Thanks to all of you for watching or listening to every episode since the launch in 2020.
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00:40:31,200
I started this show with a simple question I have had in mind for quite some time, which
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00:40:31,200 -->
00:40:38,940
is how can we as classical pianists and music educators present the beautiful tradition
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00:40:38,940 -->
00:40:45,280
of classical music to the 21st century audience in a fun, contemporary and engaging way?
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00:40:45,280 -->
00:40:48,160
It's been an incredible journey for the last three years.
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00:40:48,160 -->
00:40:53,560
And I love what I do through this podcast, providing a platform for pianists and educators
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00:40:53,560 -->
00:41:00,320
to think and discuss freely without any judgment about how we can keep the classical music
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00:41:00,320 -->
00:41:07,240
industry thriving and relevant in this constantly and rapidly changing world.
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00:41:12,040
Now more than ever, I need your financial support so that I can continue my work by
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00:41:19,480
bringing you highly valuable content bi-weekly by interviewing groundbreakers in the industry.
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00:41:19,480 -->
00:41:25,800
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00:41:50,420
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00:42:05,480 -->
00:42:07,080
Let's continue with this episode.
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00:42:07,080 -->
00:42:11,120
We were released from the lockdown.
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00:42:11,120 -->
00:42:12,760
It's the Siam.
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00:42:12,760 -->
00:42:17,120
We did the concert, which is, is it a concert, right?
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00:42:17,120 -->
00:42:22,760
And 2022 and then you're doing it again in Carnegie Hall, June 7th and tickets will be
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00:42:22,760 -->
00:42:26,360
available very soon or is it already available?
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00:42:26,360 -->
00:42:32,280
If this is air after March 7th, it will be available to purchase today.
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00:42:32,280 -->
00:42:33,480
Okay, perfect.
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00:42:33,480 -->
00:42:35,820
Now can you tell us about the Siam?
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00:42:35,820 -->
00:42:36,820
What is it about?
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00:42:36,820 -->
00:42:41,400
Yeah, so well, this is my returning appearance in Carnegie Hall.
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00:42:41,400 -->
00:42:43,320
I'm so excited about it.
622
00:42:43,320 -->
00:42:48,920
So if you're in New York or if you need an excuse to come to New York, please use it
623
00:42:48,920 -->
00:42:52,000
as an excuse.
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00:42:52,000 -->
00:42:57,520
This project is my COVID baby.
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00:42:57,520 -->
00:43:03,720
It took almost two years to make it into your appearance, first of experience to the public
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00:43:03,720 -->
00:43:10,960
and she means poetry and um is first part of umak, which means music in Korean.
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00:43:10,960 -->
00:43:15,320
So my idea started as I wanted to use poetry.
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00:43:15,320 -->
00:43:21,360
I never tried poetry and I wanted to try the poetry and then when I thought of it, I loved
629
00:43:21,360 -->
00:43:22,360
that idea.
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00:43:22,360 -->
00:43:24,800
Although I had no idea what is poetry.
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00:43:24,800 -->
00:43:29,040
English is not even my main language when I was just like tackling this words, you know,
632
00:43:29,040 -->
00:43:32,280
writing a book and courageous moves.
633
00:43:32,280 -->
00:43:39,920
But to me, I always thought music is poetry and poetry is music with, with the words,
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00:43:39,920 -->
00:43:46,480
you know, that succinct process of editing and editing and editing and practicing and
635
00:43:46,480 -->
00:43:53,200
practicing and practicing making into something that polished delivery is very much some in
636
00:43:53,200 -->
00:43:55,720
line with the class of music.
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00:43:55,720 -->
00:44:04,120
And so I wanted to pair with the poem per piece and that process was not really easy,
638
00:44:04,120 -->
00:44:09,900
very rocky at first actually because I commissioned entire like 13 pieces in my album or a concert
639
00:44:09,900 -->
00:44:15,160
or one poem, which I'm going to not tell who because I did not like any of it.
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00:44:15,160 -->
00:44:20,360
What he did and I was really desperate because I thought creating something new would be
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00:44:20,360 -->
00:44:22,240
the way to go.
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00:44:22,240 -->
00:44:27,600
But then I was not connected with it that he did and then I was in a very difficult
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00:44:27,600 -->
00:44:28,600
place.
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00:44:28,600 -->
00:44:29,600
What now?
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00:44:29,600 -->
00:44:36,960
You know, um, so then I had to dig deeper and I asked you so many advices and realized
646
00:44:36,960 -->
00:44:39,560
that still I am the messenger.
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00:44:39,560 -->
00:44:41,660
I am the creator.
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00:44:41,660 -->
00:44:47,840
So whatever I feel the most strongly match with the piece, that's all we need.
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00:44:47,840 -->
00:44:53,440
I'm not looking for the greatest poem in the world or in this history.
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00:44:53,440 -->
00:44:54,960
I'm not looking for that poem.
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00:44:54,960 -->
00:44:59,320
I'm looking for the poem that reflects the very feeling that I'm trying to convey in
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00:44:59,320 -->
00:45:01,080
that very piece of music.
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00:45:01,080 -->
00:45:05,580
It's only I can know very best in my interpretation.
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00:45:05,580 -->
00:45:10,660
So then I gain a little bit of strength to in the choosing.
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00:45:10,660 -->
00:45:16,840
So the 13 different poems that I selected are some from the past poet that passed away
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00:45:16,840 -->
00:45:19,800
or the newly commissioned that which I actually liked.
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00:45:19,800 -->
00:45:25,140
So each one is a self selected or some poems already existed.
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00:45:25,140 -->
00:45:27,440
And then I asked for permission.
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00:45:27,440 -->
00:45:33,920
And then afterwards that I thought, Oh, what if I have created something to hold this music
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00:45:33,920 -->
00:45:41,120
to hold at home, which was came about very randomly from, from a friend of mine who's
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00:45:41,120 -->
00:45:46,560
a photographer in his sixties is now in eight late eighties.
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00:45:46,560 -->
00:45:51,000
And he showed me this box of negatives, you know, black and white film photography and
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00:45:51,000 -->
00:45:52,000
I was like, what's this?
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00:45:55,460
You know, and it's like almost like a throw away.
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00:45:55,460 -->
00:45:58,960
And I was looking into it, into the, into the light.
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00:45:58,960 -->
00:46:03,040
And I was thinking like, Oh my gosh, what is this thing?
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00:46:03,040 -->
00:46:07,560
All the nature of photography he took, you know, film photography goes so much layers
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00:46:07,560 -->
00:46:13,640
to you go to dark room and develop from negatives, going to the same spot multiple times to get
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00:46:13,640 -->
00:46:15,400
that perfect shot.
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00:46:15,400 -->
00:46:19,160
It's not like digital that you can take thousands and one.
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00:46:19,160 -->
00:46:23,560
And when I saw his photography, it was so poetic.
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00:46:23,560 -->
00:46:25,960
Sometimes it's the sunlight reflecting something.
673
00:46:25,960 -->
00:46:30,200
You don't even recognize what that is, but then you make you think.
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00:46:30,200 -->
00:46:35,600
And that was the place that I'm going to hold this all three elements together.
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00:46:35,600 -->
00:46:41,800
So in my sheen project on concert and an album, there is one nature, black and white film
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00:46:41,800 -->
00:46:44,880
photography projected on the screen.
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00:46:44,880 -->
00:46:51,020
Before I play, I tell about the story or sometimes recite the poem that I selected.
678
00:46:51,020 -->
00:46:56,960
And then out of this project that I created, you know, nowadays people say they don't have
679
00:46:56,960 -->
00:47:00,960
a CD player and in fact, I don't even have a CD player anymore.
680
00:47:00,960 -->
00:47:08,180
So that is like, but as a recording artists, like that's really heart wrenching in reality.
681
00:47:08,180 -->
00:47:13,720
So then I thought I still want to create, but we still want to create a music.
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00:47:13,720 -->
00:47:20,680
So I created this package, which is the postcards, 13 different postcards match per piece, 13
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00:47:20,680 -->
00:47:28,640
different poems, and then there's download card of this album and then the backup postcard
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00:47:28,640 -->
00:47:36,280
that my request or idea of this packaging was that think of someone when you listen
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00:47:36,280 -->
00:47:42,920
to this music, along with the poetry and photography, write a note to that person on that postcard
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00:47:42,920 -->
00:47:44,960
and send it to that person.
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00:47:44,960 -->
00:47:49,620
There's a QR code on the back of postcard and that person can also listen to my album.
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00:47:49,620 -->
00:47:54,200
So this project starts on my end side, but end on your side.
689
00:47:54,200 -->
00:48:01,760
And that's like the way of interacting with the audience that they may not see me in person.
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00:48:01,760 -->
00:48:07,960
And I love that idea that again, start from the poetry, so random idea, but then turning
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00:48:07,960 -->
00:48:15,800
into something beyond imagination and turning into some beautiful thing that I can share.
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00:48:15,800 -->
00:48:25,160
But on top of all of it, what I wanted to share, maybe that Scalar di Sonata, that maybe
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00:48:25,160 -->
00:48:31,480
all of that is that I wanted to share that very piece Rachmaninoff a better way.
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00:48:31,480 -->
00:48:38,200
So I explained all this process, but at the end of it, the music is the reason I did it.
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00:48:38,200 -->
00:48:45,640
So at Carnegie Hall, you'll be maybe without the photos, but somebody will be reading the
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00:48:45,640 -->
00:48:46,640
poem.
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00:48:46,640 -->
00:48:50,080
I am the reading.
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00:48:50,080 -->
00:48:54,560
In my concert, there's always a signature thing, which is a microphone on stage.
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00:48:54,560 -->
00:48:59,440
So sometimes people are very uncomfortable because I often don't give out program at
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00:48:59,440 -->
00:49:03,240
the beginning, but give out at the end when they walk out.
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00:49:03,240 -->
00:49:06,440
The idea is again, you don't have to know anything.
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00:49:06,440 -->
00:49:08,720
Let me guide you.
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00:49:08,720 -->
00:49:09,720
Just let it go.
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00:49:09,720 -->
00:49:10,720
Let it go.
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00:49:10,720 -->
00:49:14,200
You want to know the future in 20 minutes from now.
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00:49:14,200 -->
00:49:15,840
You must be there.
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00:49:15,840 -->
00:49:23,160
I prepared this one so thoroughly beforehand for you, even from the appetizer to dessert.
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00:49:23,160 -->
00:49:28,440
So just take me into, take you to the experience.
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00:49:28,440 -->
00:49:31,000
And so I will recite poem sometimes.
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00:49:31,000 -->
00:49:36,220
I tell you some story about a piece, but the more importantly, you will get a deeper level
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00:49:36,220 -->
00:49:42,320
of experience of the very piece that you never heard or you heard a thousand times already.
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00:49:42,320 -->
00:49:44,480
So that's going to be experienced in Carnegie Hall.
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00:49:44,480 -->
00:49:49,960
Fortunately, there's not going to be a photography, but I'm on tour of Shium still currently.
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00:49:49,960 -->
00:49:54,920
And you most more likely if you catch me, you will have that photography.
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00:49:54,920 -->
00:50:00,320
And if you can catch me, you can always, you know, purchase an album or the postcards and
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00:50:00,320 -->
00:50:03,120
experience on your own way in your living room.
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00:50:03,120 -->
00:50:07,940
And I think in April, I forgot the date, but if you come to my website, there's another
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00:50:07,940 -->
00:50:10,280
concert coming up in Chicago.
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00:50:10,280 -->
00:50:14,720
So the Shium is coming in Chicago as well.
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00:50:14,720 -->
00:50:15,720
Wonderful.
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00:50:15,720 -->
00:50:20,280
Make sure to check out Jiyun's website at jiyunkim.com.
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00:50:20,280 -->
00:50:21,280
Yeah.
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00:50:21,280 -->
00:50:25,960
Best way to connect with me is through newsletter.
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00:50:25,960 -->
00:50:32,280
And so you can sign up on that on my website where I write once maybe two or three weeks
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00:50:32,280 -->
00:50:36,040
about things that I've learned in that week.
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00:50:36,040 -->
00:50:43,040
So it's about like ongoing process of communicating with people in a written world, which is the
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00:50:43,040 -->
00:50:46,760
most fitting for me actually, besides talking.
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00:50:46,760 -->
00:50:52,400
I mean, today was very much a fitting in my alley.
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00:50:52,400 -->
00:50:55,800
But I think that would be the closest way to stay connected.
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00:50:55,800 -->
00:50:59,800
Of course, you can follow me Instagram or YouTube and podcasts and all that.
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00:50:59,800 -->
00:51:05,440
But I think the most intimate way and direct will be newsletter.
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00:51:05,440 -->
00:51:06,440
That's great.
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00:51:06,440 -->
00:51:10,400
So then the tickets for that Carnegie will be available very soon.
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00:51:10,400 -->
00:51:13,800
I mean, by the time this episode will be released, it's up.
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00:51:13,800 -->
00:51:18,820
So it's the concert at the Wild Hall Carnegie on June 7th.
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00:51:18,820 -->
00:51:20,800
And then I hope to be there also.
737
00:51:20,800 -->
00:51:23,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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00:51:23,040 -->
00:51:29,080
So Jiyun, this has been such a fun and inspirational competition, really.
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00:51:29,080 -->
00:51:31,300
And I enjoyed it every moment.
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00:51:31,300 -->
00:51:32,480
So thank you so much.
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00:51:32,480 -->
00:51:36,080
So before I let you go, we have one more thing to do.
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00:51:36,080 -->
00:51:38,680
It's called the piano part rapid fire questions.
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00:51:38,680 -->
00:51:42,840
So this is a part of the show where I get to ask fun questions to each guest.
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00:51:42,840 -->
00:51:44,860
Now here's a little bit of running.
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00:51:44,860 -->
00:51:50,520
So as fun and as silly as these questions may sound, your answers may reveal who truly
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00:51:50,520 -->
00:51:51,520
are.
747
00:51:51,520 -->
00:51:52,520
So are you ready?
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00:51:52,520 -->
00:51:53,520
Oh, good.
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00:51:53,520 -->
00:51:54,520
Yeah.
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00:51:54,520 -->
00:51:56,240
What is your comfort food?
751
00:51:56,240 -->
00:51:57,240
Ramen.
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00:51:57,240 -->
00:51:58,240
Mm hmm.
753
00:51:58,240 -->
00:51:59,240
Yes.
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00:51:59,240 -->
00:52:00,920
How do you like your coffee?
755
00:52:00,920 -->
00:52:02,720
Oh, I like matcha.
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00:52:02,720 -->
00:52:04,120
Oh yes.
757
00:52:04,120 -->
00:52:05,120
That's great.
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00:52:05,120 -->
00:52:07,600
Now, cats or dogs?
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00:52:07,600 -->
00:52:10,400
Oh, tricky.
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00:52:10,400 -->
00:52:12,680
I'm always cat person at heart.
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00:52:12,680 -->
00:52:13,680
Okay.
762
00:52:13,680 -->
00:52:15,640
But I love dogs too.
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00:52:15,640 -->
00:52:18,920
What is your word or words to live by?
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00:52:18,920 -->
00:52:19,960
Peace.
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00:52:19,960 -->
00:52:24,320
What is the most important quality you look for in other people?
766
00:52:24,320 -->
00:52:25,760
Honesty.
767
00:52:25,760 -->
00:52:30,200
Name three people who inspire you, living or dead.
768
00:52:30,200 -->
00:52:31,920
All the people you may not know.
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00:52:31,920 -->
00:52:37,000
Well, my teacher, Ray Gunn-Eriki from Indiana University.
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00:52:37,000 -->
00:52:40,960
David Bremer was my mentor who passed away.
771
00:52:40,960 -->
00:52:43,720
I think it's my mom.
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00:52:43,720 -->
00:52:44,760
Beautiful.
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00:52:44,760 -->
00:52:48,000
So name one piece in your current playlist.
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00:52:48,000 -->
00:52:55,880
Oh, I listened to yesterday, our Ensky Piano Trio and I couldn't get enough of it.
775
00:52:55,880 -->
00:53:01,560
I think it's a third movement scherzo, you know, I love that.
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00:53:01,560 -->
00:53:04,240
Now the last one, fill in the blank.
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00:53:04,240 -->
00:53:06,440
Music is blank.
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00:53:06,440 -->
00:53:08,040
Gift from God.
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00:53:08,040 -->
00:53:09,040
Beautiful.
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00:53:09,040 -->
00:53:10,040
Ding ding.
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00:53:10,040 -->
00:53:11,040
That's it.
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00:53:11,040 -->
00:53:12,040
You won.
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00:53:12,040 -->
00:53:13,040
Thank you.
784
00:53:13,040 -->
00:53:14,600
Thank you so much.
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00:53:14,600 -->
00:53:17,240
So this concludes this episode of the Piano Fall.
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00:53:17,240 -->
00:53:22,280
Thank you, Ji-Yoon, for joining my show today and then sharing your stories, insights, expertise.
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00:53:22,280 -->
00:53:27,120
And you can find more information about Ji-Yoon's work through her website at jiunkim.com.
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00:53:27,120 -->
00:53:31,560
And please check out her YouTube channel at Ji-Yoon Kim Pianist.
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00:53:31,560 -->
00:53:34,200
And thank you to my wonderful audience and fans for tuning in.
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00:53:34,200 -->
00:53:39,320
If you enjoyed today's episode, please rate and review it on whatever podcasting platform
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00:53:39,320 -->
00:53:40,320
you use.
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00:53:40,320 -->
00:53:44,280
And if you're watching us on YouTube, remember to hit the thumbs up button and subscribe
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00:53:44,280 -->
00:53:45,320
to my channel.
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00:53:45,320 -->
00:53:48,760
You can also find my show on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and LinkedIn.
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00:53:48,760 -->
00:53:51,120
The links are listed in the show notes.
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00:53:51,120 -->
00:53:53,600
I will see you for the next episode of the Piano Fall.
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00:53:53,600 -->
00:53:55,880
Bye everyone and thank you, Ji-Yoon.
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00:53:55,880 -->
00:53:56,880
Thank you.
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00:53:56,880 -->
00:53:57,880
Thank you.
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00:53:57,880 -->
00:54:21,880
Thank you.
