#54 Beyond the Veil: Understanding the Paranormal with Nathaniel Gilles

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Skip me branches like squirrel, baby.
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Welcome, fellow human, to the Disorganized Productions podcast,
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and helps you become the best version of yourself.
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I'm your host, Rob,
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and each episode,
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we'll embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you. Tap into your limitless potential
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Ladies and gentlemen, fellow human,
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welcome to another
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crazy
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already episode from this organized productions.
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It's part 2 of a very special guest.
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And, to be honest with you, we, we hooked up several times throughout
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throughout the last couple of, hours,
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days
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to get this fixed.
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But, somehow, this time schedule is, is screwing us up all the time.
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But please, a warm welcome for for Nathaniel
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Gilles.
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Thank you, brother. It's great to be with you, and oh my goodness. This is,
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yeah.
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I apologize for being so late, but, I I love you to death. You're one of my favorite hosts,
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and I'm excited to get into the research, my man. Oh,
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how was your time in England in in, Manchester? Because,
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you were my
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special birthday present.
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Right?
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And I think I I remember you went to Manchester for the first time out of America
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and, to do a lecture about the stuff that you're investigating. And I'm I'm very curious about that. Yeah.
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It was it was a blast. It was an out of body experience from the beginning to the end.
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It's a different world. You know? I I remember
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getting into the wrong side of the car
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over and over and over again.
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Yeah. And I felt like an idiot. But, it was amazing. I got to meet,
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some of, if not the best researchers in the world. Steve Mara, Barry Fitzgerald,
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of course, my buddy Paul Sinclair,
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Mark Ollie,
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and the Kinsella
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brothers.
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It was just an all around great experience,
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and
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I know it it meant so much to me because it's very for the very first time I got to meet a hero of mine,
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you know.
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Yeah. And that was, oh,
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it's
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it was an out of body experience within an already
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out of body experience.
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Right? And,
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limbo? It was incredible.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was like yeah. Yeah. Inception.
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No.
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But, I loved it.
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And, I got to pick their brains, you know, and we have we had conversations that are,
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they were more in-depth than most conversations I've been able to have here in the states with other researchers.
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So I I I and, of course,
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the food was good. The food was, you know, I had some gravy and chips and gravy, I think it
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was. But overall it was an incredible experience and, I may be going back to film a lecture series,
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but, that's still in the talks. So Wow.
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That sounds good. I mean,
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last time when we talked, I had, something with the word fascinating.
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I was listening to the episode today just to prepare a little bit. I never ever listen normally to my own episodes because, well, I just said it, and I just, you know,
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bring the shit out.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, it just I'm the same way. It freaks me out. I was only babbling like, oh, fascinating. Fascinating. It is fascinating to me. But talking to the word so much,
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it it it's just like if you say something very, very good and then you end with some cursing,
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it doesn't make sense. Right?
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Yeah. Yeah. We Well
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Yeah. Go ahead.
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No. I enjoyed it. I had a blast, and, I'm thankful for a mutual
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friend for
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setting this up. You know? That was
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Wait. I'm gonna hop on to my other Internet connection because I see that my Internet is a little bit unstable,
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but that will be solved in a few seconds
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right now. Yes.
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Sorry to interrupt you.
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It's okay. Yeah. But, so I was saying, I think I don't know if you heard me or not, but I'm I'm glad that we have a mutual friend in common and that he was able to to hook us up, man. It's always cool.
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Right. And he had some crazy experiences too. He was on,
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Shane Jones, you know, inquires of reality,
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of our reality and bizarre encounters. I was there well, I did a show with him the other day.
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Okay.
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And We were talking also about some stuff, that's very connected to this to the paranormal that you encounter. Right?
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Mhmm. And,
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while while I was listening to the episode today from from us that we did,
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I had something popping up in my mind because we were thinking about,
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and also what Shane Jones said.
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It seems like there's a layer of this reality just like a VHS
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tape.
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And when you in the early days, when you recorded something like a TV show and then you,
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record something over it,
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sometimes the old stuff comes through. You know?
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Mhmm. And I was talking with Shane about it. So
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and we were talking about it on the on the on the first episode too
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about Mhmm. That these dimensions are woven together,
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and somehow
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it seems also now
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that they
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they come together. It they they people see them more and more often like, oh, I saw a ghost or I saw some entities or I saw something going on that wasn't going on for a long time.
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What what's your what's your take on that?
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I think sometimes the veil offends,
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but, there are other cases that include the phenomenon just
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courting our human condition to see how much of it we can perceive.
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You know? And and I think that's an important nuance.
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But what I've been doing as of late is questioning, you know, at a certain point in the research,
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you've poured over copious amounts of case studies
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and you know
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seemingly know some of the capabilities of this intelligence.
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And at a certain point, I'm like, okay. Now that we do know that, we can prove it.
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What does this even mean for our species?
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I mean, if it's precognitive,
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if it knows the future to a certain degree,
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what does that mean for free will?
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Mhmm. What did right? And and it's almost as if we're living in
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in artificial habitat. And from time to time, the caretakers
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come in and out
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of our reality and make eye contact with
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us. And so learning about some of the capabilities of the phenomenon, it's like, alright.
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We know at least in in some cases that these beings will manifest
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as deceased loved ones, lovers, just the list goes on and on, guides.
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And there seems to be
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no intention outside of deception
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to where once we see beyond the mask it's like okay
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Now that we've proven
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you lie.
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Right? Mhmm. What's what's the need for that? Why is the deception
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so present within the phenomenon?
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Right. And so this constant
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act of
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obfuscation
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wherein we know we're in the presence of something. But can we actually trust our eyes,
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our ears, our senses? And so at a certain like I said before at a certain point in my research, I'm like, okay.
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Can the phenomenon create physiological constructs?
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Can it create manifest apparitions?
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Just as in times past where it has appeared as deceased loved ones and guides,
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what if that is just one branch from the same tree?
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And then now we have to go deeper and say, okay, how much of hauntology, the study of hauntings, how much of hauntology has been
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literally fabricated
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by this phenomenon in order to author its own mythology
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within our species.
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Right? And we're and and so that that's why I believe, again, in order to to hide from us, it has it has
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diversified its identity.
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And now me and some other researchers in the field, even in the UK,
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were asking the question, okay. Now that we know what has the capabilities to do these things, these manifestations,
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how much of these manifestations can we trust? Are they actual
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entities?
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Right? Are they ghosts? Are they real apparitions? Or is this phenomenon using that pen to construct and even reconstruct
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Mhmm. Our understanding of reality?
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Oh,
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That is based on
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It's deep. Based on what what we talked about on the last episode that,
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eventually,
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researchers put it all like, oh, this is a separate
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thing that's going on. And then another thing, but but then you connected all the dots. Like, is
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it, like
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Right. Several entities, or is it just one that keeps on popping on different occasions and different,
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with different factors and stuff like that?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because it's it's like calling a conglomerate or some,
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like, calling Costco and getting the help desk at customer service. Press 1.
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Doop.
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And we got right? We fed into the lie. And I I get I know some researchers suggest that this is an accident or this is some kind of human projection on our part. I don't believe that's the case at all. This phenomenon
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you could be passionate about me. This phenomenon
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not only knows
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what we would believe.
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Oh, it's an apparition.
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But it has hacked our belief system to the point it knows what we would find worthy
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of believing in.
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How?
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And so this supplies this symbiotic relationship
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where
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it's not just the manifestation,
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the cognitive interface. It's not just I am Darren Edna that's occurring,
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but there are cases where the phenomenon will manifest to the experience, sir, and then start manipulating the emotions within them to agree with the image
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they're projecting.
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So my friend, this is where we are as a species. We're in the medium. We're in that paradigm, that dynamic
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between,
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right, not just thinking,
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but being thought for.
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Right.
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And so that's this, again, the tailoring of the image to the experiencer.
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And then in a certain time period, boom. Now it's okay. Yes. You are.
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You are what you appear to be.
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And a part of this does bleed into
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the commandeering of consciousness. And we've seen this not just in hauntings,
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possession cases, but even in the UFO abduction phenomenon.
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Where
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as in like, okay, you have an experiencer and they're interfacing with the entity.
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And the immediate reaction is this is not my mother. It's like doctor Carla Turner when she was abducted as a child. Oh, I'm your mother. No. You're not. And then there's a certain time at Barry Fitzgerald that Barry Fitzgerald bitches us too,
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where out of nowhere, suddenly the experience begins to have downloads and emotions
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that are implanted
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into them, into their consciousness. Right. And it's designed to agree
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and accommodate
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that entity's presence.
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So within our species, there is this,
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again, this paradigm,
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I call it in my book, the protocol of belief
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Mhmm. Where it's manifesting to and then it's manifesting
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through.
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And so people confuse. Okay. That's a tulpa. It's a thought form in a way.
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Yeah. But the the image needs to be believed in, and it's in that paradigm that we fight.
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And and
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that's where I'm at now. It's not just okay. I'm I I want to manifest as this entity. I'm going to manipulate your emotions, and I'm going to cause you to believe in the image.
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I am manifesting.
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A a good friend of mine it's an interesting case study, but a good friend of mine had broke up with his his girlfriend.
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And I I do so many shows. So if I repeat myself, just act like you didn't even see it and we'll just move on. No. I'm just kidding. I'm joking, brother. But, yeah, he had broke up with his girlfriend and he's like, months later, he goes, I moved to a different part of town, a new address, new phone number, new apartment, new job, all that. And, he goes, I got off work, opened up a beer, next thing I know, knock at the door.
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And it's it's the ex girlfriend.
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And he's like, okay. What are you doing here? Well, she seduces him. But in the middle of the night, he wakes up.
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She's not there.
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He spoke to her,
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talked to her. Right? Spoke, talked to her. They went to bed together. Next thing you know, she's not there, and there's no evidence of her being
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just his personal experience.
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And so a couple weeks go by and so he's contacting her contacts,
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her friends, some old friends they had in common, finally gets her number. He calls her up.
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Hey.
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Well, what was the last night about? I don't know what you're talking about.
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No. Well, no. That wasn't me. I told you. We're done. Don't ever contact me again. That's why I blocked you. Right? You you moved across town. I have my life. You would have your life. Leave me alone. That wasn't me.
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Now
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this this bleeds into
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simulants and how the phenomenon
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will
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implement
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someone that appears similar,
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something that looks similar to the naked eye. And this is why I wholeheartedly believe that that wholeheartedly rather that that just because it looks like a plane in the sky
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doesn't mean it is. Right. Right. And so then this leads me into this kind of this paradigm where
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in many cases, the phenomenon will blind us with our own vision.
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Uh-huh. Or do we blind ourselves with our own vision?
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Right. Right. You're exactly right. You're yeah. Yeah. So it's coming to and then coming through. And so there are times where the phenomenon
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will take pieces of our belief system
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from our consciousness
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and apply that to the image they're employing,
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where it is it's it's symbiotic.
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And this is also why in times past, we have experiences who cannot divorce
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themselves from that manifestation. Why? Because that was partially manifested from the experiencer
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themselves.
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does that make sense?
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Yeah. It does. And I was thinking about it because
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it's it's something that you could visualize for yourself even if you if you are daydreaming. Right?
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But the process of your own thoughts
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within daydreaming so when you have an intention when you go daydreaming or when you go, you know, I'm gonna take, like, a half an hour's
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sit back and just do a little,
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snap, what's what's it called.
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Yeah. Yeah. Then you can
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implement your thoughts about what you're thinking about, but you can also visualize what you think about. And then it starts to Correct. You know? You you start, like,
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drawing something on a paper, and it comes like a text or it comes like a a statue or whatever.
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the thing and that's that's very interesting for me is,
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how many of these sightings
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that are most of the time
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from individuals alone
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that they're gonna tell you that they had,
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experience
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are made up
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by themselves, but experience like it was real.
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Absolutely. Yeah. It's a shared experience
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Mhmm. Between us and the phenomenon.
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So it's very strange. I mean, look what we're talking about. This is weird stuff.
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Right. And I love weird stuff.
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Yeah. Let's rock on. Yeah. I mean, but it's it it gets into this this
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concept of reality.
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You know, it's like, alright. So this is a shared experience where it's not just manifesting to, it's manifesting through.
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And so at a certain point, it does
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it does require
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an investment
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from the experience.
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And so, like, I I had a, a case study. It was a preacher that was driving down the road, and he saw a
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he was driving. I think it was Tennessee and his wife were on vacation,
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and they saw this beautiful lake. The light was sunlight was hitting it just right. It was reflection was beautiful. They took out their phone. Screen, you know, bubble boom, start snapping photos. Right. Alright. Maybe you'll look at the photo. There is a metallic
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cigar shaped object hovering over the water.
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Could not be seen by the naked eye.
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Both of them, they all they saw was a lick, but the camera caught
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a UFO or UAP now. Right? Uh-huh. Hovering over the water.
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And so it implies that we do not see them when they don't want us to.
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But when we do see them, that may not be
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what they really look like.
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to, of my brother where he was working with a group of researchers
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in, I think it was the deep south where they were placing cameras on as many trees and as many light posts as they could find.
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And so they were capturing UAPs on camera.
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And one UAP started out on the left side of the camera as a bulb light.
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it had contorted itself into a plane.
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Then by the time they get in, it's a plane.
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So this, again, this this kind of leans into the idea that
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obviously, it's the observer effect. No doubt. Yeah.
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But what disturbs me the most is, again, that
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it doesn't just know what we believe in, the archetypes it leans into and out of, but it knows what we would find worthy of believing in.
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To where Believe
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is a big thing.
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There we go. There we go. Right? It's almost like
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okay. Let me say this. When I was in the UK, you know, I gave a lecture and everything and I I was talking to this this individual
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and,
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he had never heard of my research or probably even me. And so I'm like, okay. So a lot of the stuff is fresh. So I went down to some of the the basics, you know, the research I was doing years ago.
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I was trying to construct this this theory.
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by the time I was able to to articulate it,
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I'm watching his eyes,
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and he got it. And when he got it, conversation's over.
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I mean, it was, hey. Hey. Look. You know, how you doing? How you doing? Right? Right. It was wait wait a minute. Okay. Now we're getting it. And so there are versions of reality that are manufactured, constructed
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by this intelligence
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to cause us to think this is real
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and it's not. Or at the very the very manifestation of it is not at all what's present.
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And so what do I mean? Just because it is the most visible,
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does it mean it's the most present? Just then right? Just just because that's what we
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Yeah. Right? Oh, well, that's that's what it is. No. That's the most perceivable
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to our senses.
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And yet there's something beyond beyond that manifestation
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that is targeting us.
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And this is why it's so crazy to think about. But in times past, we kind of built, not us, but you have followed geometology, you know, built our research
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on what is discernible, what immediately
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meets the eye,
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what we can touch, and okay, I sensed this. And that's fine.
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But the phenomenon hacked our belief system to the point that it realized that it doesn't need to hide from us to hide from us.
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It can manifest
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as something. It was strange
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because what kind of a species does that? If it wanted to hide, it would. It would just never be discernible. No. This will walk right up to you, make eye contact. Right. But because of the the the because of the senses it's targeting,
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it circumvents
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our ability
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to define who they are,
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what their intentions are with us.
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And so it's almost like when it is present with us and when it wants to manifest,
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it's not what it truly is.
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It's it's again, it's a mask. It's an archetype.
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And so right now what I'm more interested in than anything else is vetting them.
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Because,
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again,
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if the phenomenon has been manifesting to us,
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but even in the manifestation,
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there are times it just
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skirts around
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Mhmm. Our abilities
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to to not just interrogate them.
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Right? But and and I don't wanna ramble, but let me let me dive into this this little rabbit hole too.
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I think that it's not just covering its bases. It's covering its faces
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because there are bits of the new mask that are made up from the older ones.
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And so
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within this paradigm, it's like, okay. Take this archetype off. Take this belief system off. What are you in the truest source of your existence?
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Right. And I don't know that we'll ever know that.
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Because, you know, again,
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to to do that go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah. It's it's not a word. That,
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the manifest
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manifestation, your own belief system about when you really want to believe in something
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or when you see something like on a bonfire, you're with some friends hanging around, and you see something going by, and you don't know what it is. And someone said, oh, that's a fox. And someone said, oh, that's a dog or whatever. You know? Everybody has his own perspective of what they saw. But with that comes also with your own thoughts. What do you want to see? What do you want to believe?
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The other thing I'm,
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very interesting is
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what does could it have to do something with your own openness
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to willing to see these?
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Maybe it's it's like,
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the spectrum of light and the spectrum of our eyesight that if we
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manifest and if we are opening our chakras or 3rd eye, that maybe we can see more of the spectrum so we can see these entities
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better, and they can communicate better through us because we are
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more energy or you know?
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Right. Yes. And this gets back into the initiatory practices.
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You know, I've said this before. I'll say it again that the occult is not a bug in the phenomenon. It's a feature.
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It's one of the more preferred ways of communication between us and this intelligence.
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And so that's where as of late I've been focusing on that interconnectivity and saying, okay, how did our ancestors perceive them? And
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Mhmm. Right? What are they?
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Are they are they themselves portals in which the phenomenon can manipulate consciousness and then
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mortal portal
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to to manifest in this dimension. This is what the college leaders researching,
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just, you know, the host of government officials.
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what I'm doing now is kind of looking at the layers, these sedimentary layers of falsified
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deceptions.
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They've been giving us spoon feeding us throughout history.
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And so as far as I can tell,
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our ancestors
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were first told by the phenomenon
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that they
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were deceased loved ones. Mhmm.
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And so if you look at the funerary rights in Mesopotamia
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and Syria,
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you see that the first altars were built to them.
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And somewhere within that cultivated
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relationship,
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they gave our ancestors information, insights into another world.
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And so from the dawning first manifestations,
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there was the altar. There was the cultivating
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of a relationship where you give me something, and I will give you something in return.
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And so what's most alarming to me about this is is regardless
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of any postulations,
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any theories, and hypothesis,
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if we go back to the root system of the phenomenon
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in recorded history, that's where it began.
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Right.
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So We can't touch base or without when that was.
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Well, yeah. So I'm leaning towards the very first death, but we can't record that and I can't prove that. Right? Right.
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But I mean, we're looking at the the early light iron ages.
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I mean, in the old testament for those those,
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bibliophiles out there. Right? The old testament times,
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in antiquity where I shouldn't say times, the old testament period where something was present
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and
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it masqueraded
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as angels,
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demons,
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deities,
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demigods,
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and then ancestors.
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And so if you look at the funerary rights, especially even the Catamua inscription that was,
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dug up in 2008.
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Yeah. Okay. I'm dying.
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My soul is going to be inside an image of me. Mhmm.
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Now we're getting the necronetics.
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My consciousness
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is going to leave this biological avatar,
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and it's going into another
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image of me. And so now you have the apparition possessing
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something that looked just like the body, but it's different a little bit. But it looks like
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what they just left.
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And so it was in that that
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framework that you suddenly have the emergence
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of conjuring
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into where they gave us ladders made of ladders. Here's what I want you to do. Mhmm. Mhmm.
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Why am I doing this? I don't know. I feel like it's downloads. Right? When we go out into the certain location and geographical,
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area in Syria, I'm gonna do it a, b, and c. Where did you get that information?
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Well, it came through me. And so then we see and I I'm telling you, to me, it's like the overlords. Right? That's the only term I have right now.
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Ambassadors of the protonelligence, but you see them seeking
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community,
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communication.
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And from that moment, you start seeing the emergence of sacrifices,
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altars,
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blood ritual
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Mhmm. Sex magic.
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Right? And in the incantations,
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that was then or incarnations.
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And so here's my point. Regardless of the masquerades,
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masquerading
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masks they've employed,
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there is a base note at the root of the phenomenon that's interreligious across cultural.
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Regardless of what we want from it, there are certain things they want from us.
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And it's both
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initiatory,
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and it's communal.
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Even the God of the bible, if you wanna go there. And some people are gonna watch this, like, okay. We're waiting for Nathaniel to touch on this.
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It's the same methodology.
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Right?
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Bring me an altar.
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Go to a high place.
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And so at this point in my research,
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I'm asking myself,
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what is it? If it is not purely demonic in the sense of, you know, horns and hooves. If it's if we have, you know,
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abandoned the ECH, the extraterrestrial,
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what kind of an intelligence
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can use both of those as archetypes
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and still be present with us in this world? Right. That that would mean we're not just talking about entities flying around in spacecrafts
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Or, you know, it No. No. No. It's
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Something is different, and it's very wrong here. It it looks like,
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I picture it like
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the ether. The the something that you can see, but it's still there.
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maybe it's like
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sometimes glitching, and, of course,
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time doesn't exist.
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Mhmm. We have a time as a as as humans nowadays. Like, okay. It's it's isn't that tight. But but there are so many levels on time, and that's what you see when these,
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ghost appearance or poltergeist is most of the Right. Mostly
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on one time spectrum of the day of the or year or the month, whatever,
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that they're gonna shown up. So what if this hard drive of reality
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or the hard drive of,
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ether
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is, manipulated
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or maybe a little bit,
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flawless,
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so it glitches.
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And then we see Yeah.
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Yes. We see the black cat, Neil.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Absolutely,
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00:30:20.465 --> 00:30:22.460
my friend. That's 100 percent true.
471
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:26.539
Yeah. And so what it means is okay that sometimes the reality
472
00:30:26.840 --> 00:30:27.900
like you said, it glitches
473
00:30:28.360 --> 00:30:33.285
enough for us to notice it. Mhmm. And so then it's like, okay. Is that their intention?
474
00:30:34.305 --> 00:30:42.330
Right. And is it is it that, they they want to be seen? Or I think Shane Jones pointed out that I think he had a,
475
00:30:43.350 --> 00:30:44.490
experience where
476
00:30:45.030 --> 00:30:46.010
he was doing
477
00:30:46.895 --> 00:30:48.755
research in in the haunted house.
478
00:30:49.534 --> 00:30:55.715
And the entity that showed up was afraid of him because he thought that he was the ghost.
479
00:30:57.580 --> 00:30:59.280
So in a time layer
480
00:30:59.740 --> 00:31:00.960
yeah. So
481
00:31:01.740 --> 00:31:09.905
what if well, not what if. Time doesn't exist, but when when you show up on a several on on a occasion,
482
00:31:11.405 --> 00:31:16.060
pitch pointed on on a minute, on a second, on on that day, there in that moment,
483
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:17.420
and
484
00:31:17.800 --> 00:31:21.980
you see something like, oh, that's let's say, it goes for example.
485
00:31:22.825 --> 00:31:25.005
What that goes sees in his
486
00:31:25.544 --> 00:31:27.164
time and his dimension
487
00:31:27.784 --> 00:31:29.325
view Right. As a ghost.
488
00:31:31.760 --> 00:31:33.220
That's actually yeah. It's weird.
489
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.419
Andrea Perron mentioned that one time.
490
00:31:37.054 --> 00:31:37.934
She said that,
491
00:31:38.495 --> 00:31:40.515
she experienced that same manifestation
492
00:31:40.895 --> 00:31:42.115
at the conjuring house,
493
00:31:42.895 --> 00:31:57.775
which, you know, there are some people that would say, okay. Well, I don't believe in this encounter or I discount this experience. Or that's fine until you have a 1,000,000 others or a 1,000 others that come and substantiate it. Like that happened to me. You can call this person crazy, but I know I'm not crazy. And yeah.
494
00:31:58.395 --> 00:32:02.975
So but there is there are glitches, and that's what the perhaps the strangest thing about all of this
495
00:32:03.649 --> 00:32:04.149
is
496
00:32:06.529 --> 00:32:10.345
that if the phenomenon can construct or or create physiological constructs,
497
00:32:10.905 --> 00:32:15.325
if in times past we've made eye contact with it, but didn't know what it was
498
00:32:16.105 --> 00:32:18.445
interacting with us on a personal basis,
499
00:32:19.300 --> 00:32:22.679
then it's like, okay. Well, then how much power over reality
500
00:32:23.940 --> 00:32:25.080
does this have?
501
00:32:26.975 --> 00:32:31.555
And this again, this gets back into the portion of our existence that they're targeting.
502
00:32:31.935 --> 00:32:38.370
I mean, if you're if we're dealing with a species where it's a a cognitive interface interfacing with us and but they can also
503
00:32:38.830 --> 00:32:40.450
monitor our belief system.
504
00:32:41.070 --> 00:32:42.930
I'm talking like I had a
505
00:32:43.495 --> 00:33:03.115
experience I was working with where the manifestation occurred when she was a kid. So the entity manifested, and I think I probably told you this last time, where, you know, it's her favorite cartoon. And so yeah. Okay. Fine. My favorite cartoon. Everything's kosher. Everything's good. You know, she go goes along with the entity and and its intentions. Then later on, she grows up, but then they manifest again as the same cartoon character.
506
00:33:03.495 --> 00:33:07.070
And so you see where sometimes the program lags.
507
00:33:07.789 --> 00:33:11.009
And you you it's fascinating because it had to improvise.
508
00:33:11.309 --> 00:33:17.395
Uh-huh. And when it improvise, this experience said that it started moving its eyes. Now this again, this is freaky.
509
00:33:18.495 --> 00:33:19.235
This is
510
00:33:20.095 --> 00:33:22.835
this is why I'm I'm not satisfied with the ETH
511
00:33:23.940 --> 00:33:25.720
or the demon demonological
512
00:33:27.140 --> 00:33:27.960
approach, whatever.
513
00:33:28.420 --> 00:33:33.934
Something's very wrong about all this because it started using its eyes to measure
514
00:33:34.235 --> 00:33:35.054
her belief
515
00:33:36.634 --> 00:33:38.174
in its image.
516
00:33:40.500 --> 00:33:43.800
You know what that sounds like? It sounds like the root system,
517
00:33:44.260 --> 00:33:46.520
the dawning first breaths of idolatry.
518
00:33:47.460 --> 00:33:47.960
Uh-huh.
519
00:33:49.034 --> 00:33:55.375
Believing in the image. And by believing in the image, it creates and it it opens a portal
520
00:33:55.914 --> 00:33:56.815
for manifestation.
521
00:33:57.595 --> 00:33:58.495
Right. I mean,
522
00:33:58.940 --> 00:34:01.600
going into these case studies, especially with an incubator,
523
00:34:02.620 --> 00:34:06.639
over over and over again is replete the same behavioral pattern. Mhmm. Manifesting
524
00:34:06.940 --> 00:34:07.840
as something.
525
00:34:08.984 --> 00:34:11.404
And then it wasn't just, okay, the experience
526
00:34:11.785 --> 00:34:13.644
witnesses the cognitive interface,
527
00:34:14.025 --> 00:34:16.765
but the experience or had to believe in it.
528
00:34:18.550 --> 00:34:22.970
And then from believing in it, then it was almost like the phenomenon
529
00:34:23.830 --> 00:34:25.610
stepped into the role,
530
00:34:27.035 --> 00:34:29.055
and it was permissive will.
531
00:34:31.275 --> 00:34:36.580
So this is the symbiotic relationship that I'm doing my best to articulate as of late. It's like,
532
00:34:37.040 --> 00:34:41.460
okay. What exactly are we dealing with? What kind of a species would traverse
533
00:34:42.080 --> 00:34:42.900
light years
534
00:34:44.085 --> 00:34:47.625
and then test our belief in the image it's manifesting as.
535
00:34:48.325 --> 00:34:51.110
Let let me go down this rabbit hole. This is why I believe
536
00:34:51.590 --> 00:34:53.610
that the Vatican has come forward
537
00:34:54.150 --> 00:34:56.490
with a a kind of redefined
538
00:34:57.990 --> 00:34:59.370
series of principles,
539
00:35:00.425 --> 00:35:01.965
how to test apparitions.
540
00:35:03.945 --> 00:35:04.445
Why?
541
00:35:05.385 --> 00:35:09.700
From my perspective, my friend, I 100% believe that was a part of disclosure.
542
00:35:12.180 --> 00:35:16.520
Because if the phenomenon can have a conversation with you without you knowing
543
00:35:16.820 --> 00:35:18.200
who you're talking to,
544
00:35:20.305 --> 00:35:25.924
now it can start to use an employee revisionist history where it can now redefine doctrine.
545
00:35:26.500 --> 00:35:29.400
Mhmm. It can actually redefine tradition
546
00:35:30.820 --> 00:35:32.040
and take centuries
547
00:35:32.420 --> 00:35:33.240
of teachings
548
00:35:33.620 --> 00:35:34.280
of mystical
549
00:35:34.805 --> 00:35:35.305
tradition
550
00:35:35.765 --> 00:35:37.845
and then kind of tilt it its way
551
00:35:38.325 --> 00:35:38.825
Uh-huh.
552
00:35:39.845 --> 00:35:49.330
Without our ability to vet it. And so the Vatican is saying, listen. Not everything that appears love and light is number 2, not everything that appears as an angel is,
553
00:35:50.030 --> 00:35:54.345
which believe it or not, it it's kind of landing right in our lap. It's kind of
554
00:35:54.825 --> 00:35:58.205
right in our our wheelhouse right now. Right.
555
00:35:58.860 --> 00:36:03.520
But I hope this make it sense, man. Yeah. So somewhere in this belief system,
556
00:36:04.620 --> 00:36:05.120
it
557
00:36:05.740 --> 00:36:07.520
it it causes me to believe,
558
00:36:08.954 --> 00:36:11.935
I should say that. Number 1, that
559
00:36:13.194 --> 00:36:16.175
it's more centered around idolatry and antiquity
560
00:36:18.089 --> 00:36:20.349
than some would like it to be. And
561
00:36:20.650 --> 00:36:23.390
just like this intelligence did in the Levant,
562
00:36:24.170 --> 00:36:25.950
it's authoring its own mythology,
563
00:36:26.725 --> 00:36:27.945
covering its faces,
564
00:36:28.405 --> 00:36:29.465
wiping memories.
565
00:36:29.925 --> 00:36:30.745
And perhaps
566
00:36:31.045 --> 00:36:36.105
when it doesn't wanna be seen, it isn't. But even when it does want to be witnessed,
567
00:36:37.160 --> 00:36:38.940
can we trust what we're seeing?
568
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:42.940
Yeah.
569
00:36:44.015 --> 00:36:45.155
That's a good one.
570
00:36:45.695 --> 00:36:47.875
Well, that one almost got me out of the whole field.
571
00:36:49.455 --> 00:36:51.670
It's like, what's the point? Yeah. Yeah.
572
00:36:52.450 --> 00:36:53.430
But but but,
573
00:36:54.050 --> 00:36:57.030
the the more you the more questions that you
574
00:36:57.730 --> 00:36:58.870
get answers to,
575
00:36:59.355 --> 00:37:03.775
the more questions that you have. Right? The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
576
00:37:04.955 --> 00:37:09.130
Right. And, especially, I I know how how old is it, like,
577
00:37:09.930 --> 00:37:10.430
mythology,
578
00:37:11.930 --> 00:37:14.030
demonology? Is is something, like,
579
00:37:14.330 --> 00:37:21.385
developed the last couple of centuries, or is it is it, like, 1000 of years old that people were fascinated with that?
580
00:37:21.925 --> 00:37:22.984
Well, I mean, mononeurophology
581
00:37:23.525 --> 00:37:24.744
started in, like, the
582
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:27.460
late fifties
583
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:32.820
Right. As we know it. Yeah. In terms of their and I may be wrong on that specific
584
00:37:33.120 --> 00:37:33.620
date.
585
00:37:34.404 --> 00:37:36.505
But in terms of MUFON
586
00:37:37.365 --> 00:37:37.865
and,
587
00:37:39.045 --> 00:37:43.224
congregation of researchers coming together and saying, okay. We're gonna create a group.
588
00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:51.270
But it here's the problem, though. I mean, if we're looking okay. Let's go back to some of these case studies. We have pilots now
589
00:37:51.685 --> 00:37:54.345
that are coming forward saying that,
590
00:37:55.925 --> 00:37:56.744
they're witnessing
591
00:37:57.845 --> 00:37:59.625
crafts that are not physical.
592
00:38:00.140 --> 00:38:00.640
Uh-huh.
593
00:38:01.020 --> 00:38:01.760
They're not.
594
00:38:03.180 --> 00:38:04.240
There is footage,
595
00:38:04.700 --> 00:38:07.600
and Steve Maris shared this in one of his lectures. It's incredible.
596
00:38:08.835 --> 00:38:10.855
Where it is either our government or his,
597
00:38:11.714 --> 00:38:13.895
they had these UFOs in the sky lights.
598
00:38:14.275 --> 00:38:17.780
They shot missiles at them. And when they the missile hit them,
599
00:38:19.700 --> 00:38:20.920
they came back together again.
600
00:38:23.380 --> 00:38:25.800
The UFO. The missiles went through them.
601
00:38:26.934 --> 00:38:27.434
They
602
00:38:27.815 --> 00:38:28.315
dematerialized,
603
00:38:28.615 --> 00:38:31.035
and they materialized back to the same exact
604
00:38:31.575 --> 00:38:32.875
shape they were before.
605
00:38:34.330 --> 00:38:36.170
One one diver came through,
606
00:38:36.490 --> 00:38:37.550
and said that
607
00:38:37.850 --> 00:38:41.870
they were investigating the ocean floor, and they turned and they saw a UFO
608
00:38:43.694 --> 00:38:45.155
with occupants on the outside
609
00:38:46.655 --> 00:38:47.474
in the ocean
610
00:38:47.934 --> 00:38:49.474
trying to fix the UFO.
611
00:38:51.615 --> 00:38:52.115
So,
612
00:38:52.910 --> 00:38:53.410
again,
613
00:38:53.950 --> 00:38:56.930
this is why I'm leaning more towards the gnostic
614
00:38:58.270 --> 00:38:58.770
view
615
00:38:59.685 --> 00:39:00.585
of the phenomenon
616
00:39:00.885 --> 00:39:01.385
because
617
00:39:02.244 --> 00:39:05.785
I think we have been so convinced that an invasion
618
00:39:06.165 --> 00:39:06.665
is,
619
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:12.260
you know, biological avatars landing on the White House lawn. I don't think we were prepared
620
00:39:13.600 --> 00:39:16.735
for a parasitic species to invade
621
00:39:17.515 --> 00:39:18.015
reality.
622
00:39:20.395 --> 00:39:21.215
Oh, yeah.
623
00:39:21.950 --> 00:39:24.610
Zooming in to the very fabric of existence
624
00:39:25.630 --> 00:39:30.210
and then placing themselves into that carving out space time
625
00:39:32.095 --> 00:39:33.555
and then showing up.
626
00:39:34.974 --> 00:39:37.395
This is Could it be a life form
627
00:39:37.775 --> 00:39:40.115
that the things that we see
628
00:39:40.569 --> 00:39:43.789
aren't the things that we see, but it's a life form.
629
00:39:44.170 --> 00:39:44.670
Like,
630
00:39:45.210 --> 00:39:45.950
when you
631
00:39:46.490 --> 00:39:50.245
first first in your in your life see a lizard, then you wanna
632
00:39:50.965 --> 00:40:04.800
take him by his tail, and all of a sudden, the tail is gone and he runs off? Or, like, when you chop off chicken's head that he's gonna run off? You know, that it's like a life form instead of something that we think we see.
633
00:40:05.579 --> 00:40:06.079
Yes.
634
00:40:08.205 --> 00:40:08.705
Well,
635
00:40:10.445 --> 00:40:15.425
I'm leaning towards the life form of something. But then again, I mean, if these if these are, like, Nigel Turner
636
00:40:15.885 --> 00:40:17.345
have posited that
637
00:40:18.270 --> 00:40:18.770
that
638
00:40:20.510 --> 00:40:23.890
these were biological avatars, but that they were
639
00:40:24.750 --> 00:40:26.369
almost like ambassadors,
640
00:40:27.545 --> 00:40:28.045
robots
641
00:40:28.345 --> 00:40:29.244
of another
642
00:40:29.545 --> 00:40:31.085
another or another
643
00:40:31.704 --> 00:40:32.204
civilization,
644
00:40:32.825 --> 00:40:39.339
but that civilization died off. And so now that they don't know what else to do, they just do what they've always been doing. That's one theory.
645
00:40:40.040 --> 00:40:44.300
But getting down to the brass tacks of it, yeah, it does seem like they are
646
00:40:44.665 --> 00:40:45.565
not just
647
00:40:48.265 --> 00:40:49.405
not just manipulating
648
00:40:49.785 --> 00:40:50.605
our perceptions,
649
00:40:52.505 --> 00:40:53.005
but
650
00:40:53.710 --> 00:40:58.289
but lying to us in the sense that, okay, yeah, to invade us, they have to shoot planes down.
651
00:40:58.670 --> 00:41:09.455
Mhmm. Right? They're bleed they're they're they're bleeding and leaning into that seventies or even fifties narrative of of of invasion. No. But if this is invaded reality itself,
652
00:41:10.155 --> 00:41:11.135
like I said,
653
00:41:11.869 --> 00:41:12.609
to where
654
00:41:13.310 --> 00:41:16.690
we're driving down the road and we see something and we think that
655
00:41:16.990 --> 00:41:17.490
belongs.
656
00:41:18.510 --> 00:41:23.175
Mhmm. Then it doesn't. It doesn't. That's not a car. That's not a plane. That's not a person.
657
00:41:23.475 --> 00:41:24.375
It's the phenomenon.
658
00:41:24.755 --> 00:41:32.770
Right. It is an extension of this intelligence that is coexisting with us. This is why I also believe the government knows this. And that's why the hybridization
659
00:41:33.550 --> 00:41:35.970
program never really did work on me because I'm like, okay,
660
00:41:36.535 --> 00:41:44.795
What? Right? I'm a starseed. Okay. Tell me how you're forgive me. People don't watch this. What do you mean? I'm not like pooh pooh ing anything or anybody specifically.
661
00:41:45.390 --> 00:41:46.530
I'm seeing that
662
00:41:47.150 --> 00:41:50.290
the hybridization program is a little bit more too is a little bit too tangible.
663
00:41:50.670 --> 00:41:57.285
Uh-huh. You know, when people like Nick Nick Redfern and other researchers, specifically in our government, when they've been visited by these entities,
664
00:41:58.145 --> 00:41:59.444
it was quite literally
665
00:41:59.905 --> 00:42:01.204
materializing and dematerializing
666
00:42:01.585 --> 00:42:02.244
at will,
667
00:42:03.570 --> 00:42:08.310
which, again, takes all of our notions of physics, just shatters them,
668
00:42:08.770 --> 00:42:09.990
snaps them in half.
669
00:42:10.375 --> 00:42:16.795
This is why I'm saying that if an intelligence has the capability to string us along through 1000 of years,
670
00:42:17.255 --> 00:42:20.155
you know, constantly incarnating into different archetypes,
671
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:25.140
That would make sense as to why. It's not just outside of the room. It's outside of the house.
672
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:26.500
It is
673
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:30.875
yeah. So that's why I'm I'm leaning more to the simulation theory.
674
00:42:31.735 --> 00:42:32.235
And
675
00:42:33.015 --> 00:42:34.635
if you take in mind that
676
00:42:35.495 --> 00:42:37.220
well, scientists say, like,
677
00:42:38.980 --> 00:42:39.480
3
678
00:42:39.859 --> 00:42:41.720
quarter of the earth is water,
679
00:42:42.020 --> 00:42:44.680
and we discovered about 5% of that.
680
00:42:45.335 --> 00:42:56.060
Well, first of all, you don't know what 5% is if you don't know what 100% is. Right? Was it yeah. Yeah. You can't quantify that. Right? No. Exactly. And if you see, like, some species, like some octopus can,
681
00:42:57.579 --> 00:43:00.160
light themselves with colors like a chameleon,
682
00:43:00.700 --> 00:43:04.000
but also with, adapting into the environment.
683
00:43:04.845 --> 00:43:06.785
What I wanna point out with that is
684
00:43:07.725 --> 00:43:08.785
that maybe we
685
00:43:09.165 --> 00:43:15.210
think that we are superior in our nature because we have thoughts and we can talk to each other.
686
00:43:15.830 --> 00:43:29.965
Of course, animals communicate with each other too, but you don't have thoughts. Like, a bunny doesn't have a thought, like, or emotions like, oh, shit. That bunny is screwing that bunny, so I gotta find another bunny. You know, with the stuff like that. Yeah. It starts You don't have that. Yeah.
687
00:43:30.345 --> 00:43:30.845
Exactly.
688
00:43:31.289 --> 00:43:35.309
Alright. How's it look? Maybe Bugs Bunny does that, but it's a it's it's a character.
689
00:43:35.930 --> 00:43:40.029
Slick Rick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's way different. Right. But the thing is,
690
00:43:41.475 --> 00:43:44.215
maybe there are other life forms
691
00:43:44.595 --> 00:43:45.575
on this planet
692
00:43:46.515 --> 00:43:48.135
Mhmm. That are
693
00:43:49.860 --> 00:43:57.400
not been shown yet to humans or maybe now that we are more people and with more recording devices.
694
00:43:57.985 --> 00:43:59.765
Let's say 20 years
695
00:44:00.225 --> 00:44:05.295
ago, almost no one had a telephone that they could rec record or make a picture.
696
00:44:05.680 --> 00:44:15.474
And even on the pictures on on 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago, you saw some things popping up that you couldn't see with your naked eye. So the question is,
697
00:44:16.815 --> 00:44:17.635
is our
698
00:44:17.935 --> 00:44:19.155
eyesight so
699
00:44:20.255 --> 00:44:23.395
advanced or maybe so little advanced
700
00:44:24.200 --> 00:44:37.155
compared to the things that we have nowadays when when even the Mandela effect is something that's like a timeline we go through that all of a sudden, all of the the monocular guy of the the binoculars of the the monopoly guy
701
00:44:37.455 --> 00:44:41.990
are gone. You know? Just like and Berenstain and Berenstain. Just like what the
702
00:44:43.270 --> 00:44:48.089
you know, there are so many things we can't explain, but still, they are there.
703
00:44:48.745 --> 00:44:51.165
Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're present lip and absent from.
704
00:44:51.465 --> 00:44:52.925
And it's possible that
705
00:44:55.785 --> 00:44:57.005
what we are researching
706
00:44:58.150 --> 00:44:59.210
in its entirety,
707
00:45:00.150 --> 00:45:03.290
right, is just what they want us to know,
708
00:45:03.670 --> 00:45:05.770
the direction they want us to go.
709
00:45:06.310 --> 00:45:10.235
And so this is why I consider consider just hanging up my hat
710
00:45:11.015 --> 00:45:11.915
and just
711
00:45:12.775 --> 00:45:14.635
leaving it entirely is because,
712
00:45:15.900 --> 00:45:16.560
you know,
713
00:45:17.100 --> 00:45:21.040
there's, we we we have so many blind spots as a species.
714
00:45:22.300 --> 00:45:23.565
So many of them.
715
00:45:24.125 --> 00:45:26.625
And, yeah, when these beings manifest,
716
00:45:27.645 --> 00:45:32.224
I mean, we're talking about entire families being placed in suspended animation.
717
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:34.859
They had no choice.
718
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:41.099
Betty Luca, when they walked through her door
719
00:45:41.455 --> 00:45:44.595
of her house, she turned around and her entire family.
720
00:45:46.095 --> 00:45:48.595
Right? Again, we've gotta put ourselves in their position.
721
00:45:49.055 --> 00:45:50.035
Believe in God.
722
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.580
Right? They had everything you we would ever consider
723
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:57.980
to be religious. Everything was in place. They allegedly had free will.
724
00:45:58.285 --> 00:46:01.345
Mhmm. Everything that made them a human was there,
725
00:46:02.285 --> 00:46:03.984
and yet they were statues.
726
00:46:07.080 --> 00:46:10.780
And they are there present presenting themselves. Hey. Hey. How are you doing, Betty?
727
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:13.980
Right? And this this is almost like Westworld,
728
00:46:15.185 --> 00:46:17.365
wherein, yeah, everybody's paused.
729
00:46:18.145 --> 00:46:20.405
Right. They will not remember this.
730
00:46:21.345 --> 00:46:23.525
Like the men in black. Like,
731
00:46:23.985 --> 00:46:28.620
Yeah. Well, all all the stuff that you see that that they are pointing out in movies.
732
00:46:29.080 --> 00:46:31.100
And, of course, they have to tell something,
733
00:46:31.560 --> 00:46:33.260
like, oh, we told you so.
734
00:46:34.145 --> 00:46:34.645
Yeah.
735
00:46:35.665 --> 00:46:36.245
And and
736
00:46:36.625 --> 00:46:45.550
even Puerto Rico that that, you know, with Arnold Schwarzenegger, he goes through other planets and stuff like that. But there's so many things coming out know nowadays that you
737
00:46:45.850 --> 00:46:54.474
just like, oh, wait a minute. We were talking about that 10 years ago, but that was a conspiracy. And now all of a sudden, they make a movie movie out of it. So Yeah. You know? Oh, yeah.
738
00:46:55.894 --> 00:46:56.714
The powers,
739
00:46:57.640 --> 00:46:59.340
the between air hooks,
740
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:03.000
they are fascinated by the thing that,
741
00:47:03.640 --> 00:47:08.395
maybe they know and they like it that we don't know. But they give us, like, bread crumbs
742
00:47:09.015 --> 00:47:09.455
and,
743
00:47:09.895 --> 00:47:14.875
calling us stupid names like conspiracy theories and stuff like that. I'm a critical thinker.
744
00:47:15.270 --> 00:47:18.490
And when I'm listening to topics like you you talk about, Nathaniel,
745
00:47:19.109 --> 00:47:28.115
these are something that that's fascinating. It's interesting. It's something like, okay. What what about if you just like we did the last time, you know,
746
00:47:29.615 --> 00:47:35.269
feed each other on the topic. So, you know, you you go further with the steps. But I can
747
00:47:35.569 --> 00:47:36.700
imagine when you
748
00:47:39.145 --> 00:47:40.365
into this topic
749
00:47:40.825 --> 00:47:45.565
that you're quite isolated from all of reality and all of social
750
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:53.540
context because a lot of people don't want to dig into that or don't even Oh, yeah. Grab just, like, a little bit what you're doing.
751
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:54.420
Right?
752
00:47:55.105 --> 00:47:58.165
Yeah. Absolutely, my friend. And there have been times when I've
753
00:47:59.505 --> 00:48:04.325
and this is not in terms of, like, the phenomenon is my level and towards me. I mean, there have certainly been those cases
754
00:48:04.930 --> 00:48:09.670
in times past, but where I've stared into the abyss and looked over the edge.
755
00:48:11.170 --> 00:48:11.670
And,
756
00:48:13.154 --> 00:48:15.335
yeah, it's it's easy to just
757
00:48:16.914 --> 00:48:21.894
clock out. Yeah. Go go get a job stocking shelves and never touch this again.
758
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:24.980
Because the closer we get to it,
759
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:27.620
the more we realize that
760
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:29.060
this is not reality
761
00:48:30.115 --> 00:48:32.455
and that whatever they are,
762
00:48:33.395 --> 00:48:36.375
they have access to our houses, our cars,
763
00:48:36.915 --> 00:48:38.935
our bodies, our consciousness.
764
00:48:41.460 --> 00:48:41.960
Right?
765
00:48:42.500 --> 00:48:44.120
This is something that,
766
00:48:45.140 --> 00:48:46.840
the authors within antiquity,
767
00:48:47.435 --> 00:48:48.335
they try to articulate,
768
00:48:49.515 --> 00:48:53.695
like, specifically within idolatry. Is it okay? This is actually in Psalms.
769
00:48:55.030 --> 00:49:06.275
Again, I'm not making it religious, but there there are certain ideas. Yeah. There are some Right. Things touched on Yes. In some books. Thank you. Yeah. People are like, that's too religious. I'm like, okay.
770
00:49:07.295 --> 00:49:11.150
Who are we building altars to? I'm sure that's not religious either. Right? Right.
771
00:49:11.849 --> 00:49:15.550
Nothing to do with it. No. No, Parsons. No. But yeah.
772
00:49:16.089 --> 00:49:19.069
But, basically, the these authors were trying to to explain
773
00:49:20.145 --> 00:49:33.230
this relationship, the symbiotic relationship between us and them. And so and even Irvin Fiegel touches on this, where in order to get rid of one demon in a haunted house, you go to an artificial metal and they pour this image into a mold,
774
00:49:34.410 --> 00:49:35.869
and they take that image,
775
00:49:36.365 --> 00:49:37.664
place it in their home,
776
00:49:38.204 --> 00:49:40.785
that image will scare away the other.
777
00:49:41.164 --> 00:49:43.025
Right. It's manifesting in the house.
778
00:49:43.640 --> 00:49:47.900
And so David is trying to articulate this the only way he knew how.
779
00:49:48.359 --> 00:49:50.619
And he begins the text with,
780
00:49:51.895 --> 00:49:53.515
in the Hebrews, it's mind blowing,
781
00:49:54.375 --> 00:49:54.875
that
782
00:49:55.974 --> 00:49:56.875
an idol
783
00:49:57.255 --> 00:49:58.715
molds a man.
784
00:50:02.410 --> 00:50:10.430
How In the King James. Right? There's a scene in King James version, it says that a man molds the idol, and then it explains how he does it.
785
00:50:11.855 --> 00:50:13.235
It's actually in 2nd Chronicles.
786
00:50:13.535 --> 00:50:18.595
So but but, anyways, what I'm what he's the author is trying to articulate here is this relationship where
787
00:50:19.180 --> 00:50:20.080
long before
788
00:50:20.860 --> 00:50:23.920
the man goes out and molds the image of the statue,
789
00:50:24.540 --> 00:50:30.105
the entity wanting to become incarnate has already molded the imagination of that man.
790
00:50:31.204 --> 00:50:33.545
Projecting its image into the mind,
791
00:50:34.650 --> 00:50:38.030
and then using the hands and using that in that individual
792
00:50:38.570 --> 00:50:40.910
to become an incarnate into this dimension.
793
00:50:43.215 --> 00:50:48.994
So there with the with the things that you point out with the staff and stuff like that that There we go. Right?
794
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:51.140
Yes. Yes. 100%.
795
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:54.180
This this strict and it's very strange,
796
00:50:55.040 --> 00:50:57.140
but it's not just that we are avatars,
797
00:50:57.875 --> 00:50:59.815
and it's not just that we
798
00:51:00.195 --> 00:51:01.095
are independently
799
00:51:01.475 --> 00:51:04.730
creating thought forms. Mhmm. Because now this is profound.
800
00:51:05.290 --> 00:51:07.390
But if we can be
801
00:51:07.770 --> 00:51:08.510
thought for
802
00:51:09.770 --> 00:51:10.270
and
803
00:51:10.650 --> 00:51:13.710
right? And if we are, in fact, creating thought forms,
804
00:51:15.425 --> 00:51:18.885
then the entity thinking for is the one shaping
805
00:51:19.185 --> 00:51:20.405
its own form.
806
00:51:21.745 --> 00:51:22.245
Right.
807
00:51:23.150 --> 00:51:24.850
It's making sense. Yes.
808
00:51:25.790 --> 00:51:26.290
Absolutely.
809
00:51:27.310 --> 00:51:34.905
And I think that also has to do with the manifestation what we talked about. Right? Right. The symbiotic relationship. You create your own reality
810
00:51:35.365 --> 00:51:45.359
by There we go. Stating it, by believing in it, by your your deepest desire, your your burning ambition to be that person or whatever you wanna be.
811
00:51:46.035 --> 00:51:49.495
There we go. And the mirror tells you that you are
812
00:51:49.875 --> 00:51:53.095
going to get or are being that person or not.
813
00:51:53.890 --> 00:51:54.390
Right.
814
00:51:54.770 --> 00:52:01.030
It's it's this it's this this, again, this weird paradigm of I'm thinking hold on, man. My dogs are lying on that. You can edit this.
815
00:52:01.475 --> 00:52:05.735
Hold on real quick. You hear that? Yeah. Yeah. No props. Oh my god, dude.
816
00:52:07.155 --> 00:52:08.935
Hey. I'm on a show. You gotta show.
817
00:52:10.200 --> 00:52:11.020
There we go.
818
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:12.860
That's all I had to do, brother.
819
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:16.060
Oh, that's it. No. I'm not gonna ask you that.
820
00:52:16.520 --> 00:52:23.835
You're like you're like, dude. I've been waiting for a day and 40 minutes on you. So no. I'm just kidding. Yeah. I'm just no, dude. But, yes, this again, this
821
00:52:24.295 --> 00:52:25.890
he's he's doing his best
822
00:52:26.930 --> 00:52:28.230
to not just comprehend,
823
00:52:28.769 --> 00:52:29.829
but to communicate
824
00:52:30.210 --> 00:52:35.829
this symbiotic relationship between us and them. They may not be an extension of us
825
00:52:36.835 --> 00:52:39.335
purely, but they need us to become them.
826
00:52:40.195 --> 00:52:42.375
So there is this the this
827
00:52:43.369 --> 00:52:44.430
independent existence,
828
00:52:44.970 --> 00:52:47.549
but then there's also this need of theirs.
829
00:52:48.410 --> 00:52:58.675
Right? If they wanted to be absent with from us, then just be absent from us. You don't have to be present with, but then absent from. Right. So their their very presence in our world,
830
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:01.540
it implies a want or a need.
831
00:53:02.160 --> 00:53:07.380
And what I'm trying to demonstrate today is simply that, yes, the cognitive interfaces
832
00:53:08.305 --> 00:53:09.685
are deeply interwoven
833
00:53:09.985 --> 00:53:12.085
into the fabric of our consciousness.
834
00:53:12.865 --> 00:53:22.360
And that's why it's constant. Like, okay. Yeah. And this is can can other researchers have talked about this where, you know, if you go into a haunted house, you're a demonologist,
835
00:53:23.140 --> 00:53:26.425
horns and toads. If you're a ghost hunter, it's a ghost.
836
00:53:27.045 --> 00:53:28.105
If you're a ufologist,
837
00:53:28.565 --> 00:53:36.240
and that's a theory I've been looking at and I'm thinking at first I'm like, I don't believe that at all. But there are times when it plucks out pieces
838
00:53:36.860 --> 00:53:37.600
of us.
839
00:53:38.300 --> 00:53:40.000
It molds its image.
840
00:53:41.255 --> 00:53:52.390
Right. And then there that's where it's coming to and coming through. And that's what some of these authors in antiquity were trying to tell us that you're not it's not just you molding that interface.
841
00:53:53.650 --> 00:53:55.910
It's coming to you and through you.
842
00:53:57.015 --> 00:54:01.494
Right. And I I don't I don't I know that's it's very ambiguous, and I hate that. But
843
00:54:03.095 --> 00:54:07.609
But it is I mean, it is what it is sometimes. Right? And it is like
844
00:54:10.150 --> 00:54:11.849
and Shane pointed out too.
845
00:54:12.470 --> 00:54:13.849
If if there are
846
00:54:16.125 --> 00:54:17.025
haunted houses,
847
00:54:18.045 --> 00:54:18.785
there also
848
00:54:19.244 --> 00:54:19.984
could be
849
00:54:20.444 --> 00:54:23.265
some positive vibes that are manifestating
850
00:54:23.645 --> 00:54:30.569
like, oh, I hear peep, you know, in in abandoned building that you hear people talking, have drinks, have music.
851
00:54:30.950 --> 00:54:31.450
Like,
852
00:54:31.990 --> 00:54:35.625
good things. Right? So so Mhmm. And and
853
00:54:36.005 --> 00:54:39.865
it's like that what I said about the hard drive that's gonna be
854
00:54:40.549 --> 00:54:50.625
disconnected, reconnecting, or or showing some some some spectrum of the past or maybe the future even. Right? Because we don't know what's time anyway.
855
00:54:51.005 --> 00:54:54.785
So and that that really fascinates me. And, also, the thought that,
856
00:54:55.670 --> 00:55:00.170
Shane pointed out he he was in a abandoned haunted house with, like, a facility,
857
00:55:00.710 --> 00:55:01.930
and they took 22
858
00:55:04.375 --> 00:55:07.595
pieces of of, equipment with with them.
859
00:55:08.135 --> 00:55:09.515
Mhmm. When they did that,
860
00:55:10.135 --> 00:55:10.875
at night,
861
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:12.940
things happen in their house.
862
00:55:13.560 --> 00:55:17.260
So it's not only the time and place,
863
00:55:18.040 --> 00:55:24.674
but also and you can see that also in in witch boxes and stuff like that. What you know, when they put on the or called seals
864
00:55:25.549 --> 00:55:33.240
for entities like a doll and stuff like that. Like, they they put some entity in there. Don't don't touch it again. You can see it on the in the,
865
00:55:34.275 --> 00:55:40.935
Egyptian, Sarafaks, and stuff like that. When they open it up, people die and stuff like that. You can see it's a mold. It's it's
866
00:55:41.369 --> 00:55:41.869
whatever.
867
00:55:42.410 --> 00:55:45.710
But it could be also, like, people want to get
868
00:55:46.329 --> 00:55:46.829
this
869
00:55:48.415 --> 00:55:50.755
dark energy or these dark forces
870
00:55:51.695 --> 00:55:59.050
into something, and they knew how to do that. Don't touch it. We buried it. And all of a sudden, 200, 400, 5000 years
871
00:55:59.590 --> 00:56:05.770
later, you know, you beep beep beep beep with a with a metal detector on the land, then you find a box. Oh, let's open that.
872
00:56:06.355 --> 00:56:07.175
Oh, shit.
873
00:56:07.555 --> 00:56:08.055
Don't.
874
00:56:09.155 --> 00:56:12.835
Absolutely. Yeah. I'm gonna see a video on YouTube when it's when it's some,
875
00:56:13.395 --> 00:56:22.460
hexagrams and pentagrams and stuff like that. Don't open up that box. Don't. It's real. It's real. Yeah. It's real. This these are insights into another world,
876
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:27.065
and the power mechanism, the control mechanism often employed
877
00:56:27.525 --> 00:56:29.065
by whatever these things are,
878
00:56:29.365 --> 00:56:31.260
it's like they don't want us to know.
879
00:56:31.820 --> 00:56:35.040
You know, like, the case study with remote viewer I had, you know, the the
880
00:56:35.500 --> 00:56:36.880
should I say, alien
881
00:56:37.420 --> 00:56:38.560
ritual, alien
882
00:56:39.205 --> 00:56:40.825
sigils that were on his skin,
883
00:56:42.165 --> 00:56:46.665
I sent those those photograph the photographic evidence to other practitioners. They didn't know what to do with it.
884
00:56:47.609 --> 00:56:52.030
And it again, it was almost as if that which we were given or they were given
885
00:56:52.410 --> 00:56:57.230
as mages, magi, whatever you wanna call them, they were little bits and pieces, bread crumbs.
886
00:56:58.134 --> 00:57:01.035
Right? Whatever these things are operating in,
887
00:57:01.575 --> 00:57:03.035
it's completely different.
888
00:57:03.734 --> 00:57:09.370
And then it's and this is where I'm at now. I'm looking I'm currently going back through fetal magic
889
00:57:09.990 --> 00:57:11.130
and just
890
00:57:12.045 --> 00:57:13.665
what was occurring in Mesopotamia?
891
00:57:14.045 --> 00:57:16.705
What were their beliefs? And are there truths,
892
00:57:17.085 --> 00:57:17.585
right,
893
00:57:17.885 --> 00:57:20.820
interwoven into some of the lies they were giving us?
894
00:57:21.380 --> 00:57:25.240
But what but, again, whatever we're dealing with, and just my perspective
895
00:57:25.700 --> 00:57:39.330
and, again, people could be like, well, I'm not seeing any photographic evidence. That's fine. You know? People who wanna see my shows have probably already seen that. They're coming to see, you know, is there anything new, you know, what you're doing lately. But what I'm doing lately here is, like, okay. Whatever these are,
896
00:57:39.790 --> 00:57:40.290
they
897
00:57:42.270 --> 00:57:44.690
it's way different than than extraterrestrial.
898
00:57:46.295 --> 00:57:48.715
It's way different than just purely demonic.
899
00:57:49.415 --> 00:57:53.115
I mean, if we start looking at the archetypes they've leaned into,
900
00:57:53.619 --> 00:57:56.440
quite literally just, like I said, revising history,
901
00:57:56.980 --> 00:58:00.200
we're okay. Yeah. There are horns and hooves. Next thing you know, we have a demonologist
902
00:58:00.579 --> 00:58:02.285
seeing horns and hooves and haunted houses.
903
00:58:03.964 --> 00:58:11.424
And so, you know, there were a group of people that came out especially within paranormal field. Oh, well, those were those were social constructs. Time out.
904
00:58:12.470 --> 00:58:14.650
We look at the way these manifested.
905
00:58:15.190 --> 00:58:16.170
Mhmm. Right?
906
00:58:16.470 --> 00:58:19.530
Those were social constructs. Yes. But they were also physiological.
907
00:58:20.145 --> 00:58:23.765
To that experience, sir, they actually witnessed that.
908
00:58:24.385 --> 00:58:24.885
Right.
909
00:58:25.585 --> 00:58:27.410
So then what are we dealing with?
910
00:58:27.970 --> 00:58:37.245
We're dealing with an intelligence that can, like I said, all through its own mythology within the experience or the experience or themselves. Okay. Yeah. Oh, it must be a demon. Like,
911
00:58:38.125 --> 00:58:41.265
right? Was it actually a demon? Was it actually horns and hooves?
912
00:58:41.805 --> 00:58:43.105
Was that actually an alien?
913
00:58:43.725 --> 00:58:49.750
Right? Because your perceptive of the thing that you see could be completely different than what it is.
914
00:58:50.369 --> 00:58:53.670
Yes. And it's and it's taking, like I said, portions of consciousness
915
00:58:54.085 --> 00:58:57.224
in your belief system applying it to okay. This is my interface.
916
00:58:57.845 --> 00:59:01.065
So it's right. It's present with us. What's present with us? Mask.
917
00:59:01.680 --> 00:59:04.099
Mask. What's absent from us?
918
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:07.060
The source, the protointelligence.
919
00:59:07.680 --> 00:59:09.859
Right. And so in that way,
920
00:59:10.275 --> 00:59:12.215
it has interacted with our species
921
00:59:12.835 --> 00:59:14.855
by being in the room, but invisible.
922
00:59:15.955 --> 00:59:19.335
Because it is using again, it's using religion to hide.
923
00:59:19.829 --> 00:59:22.730
Oh, well, well, I saw it. Doesn't mean you saw the protointelligence.
924
00:59:23.750 --> 00:59:24.250
Mhmm.
925
00:59:25.589 --> 00:59:33.885
Right? So, oh, this is making sense. And so in a way, it's like, okay. Why choose to be visible? Well, in being visible to you,
926
00:59:34.825 --> 00:59:35.885
does it compromise
927
00:59:36.185 --> 00:59:36.925
its identity?
928
00:59:38.370 --> 00:59:39.750
Doesn't compromise anything.
929
00:59:40.610 --> 00:59:43.030
And so it's more than just manifestation.
930
00:59:43.570 --> 00:59:44.630
It's a mirror.
931
00:59:45.715 --> 00:59:47.335
And it's more than a mirror.
932
00:59:47.635 --> 00:59:56.839
It implies that if the phenomenon is evolving according to our awareness of it, then we can only know the phenomenon to the extent that we know who.
933
00:59:57.220 --> 00:59:57.720
Uh-huh.
934
00:59:58.660 --> 00:59:59.160
Ourselves.
935
00:59:59.619 --> 01:00:14.320
Right. This is why, my friend, we've always had this this problem in the field of week takes 2 steps, it's 5 steps ahead of us. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. For every 2, there is a 3. And so it's constantly evolving according to why? Because it's symbiotic.
936
01:00:17.180 --> 01:00:22.515
Right? I'm here. Okay. Well, I'm here then. Why? Because each and every time you move, I'm moving with you.
937
01:00:23.695 --> 01:00:24.195
Right.
938
01:00:25.935 --> 01:00:30.150
It's it's weird. I know, man. I hope this is making sense.
939
01:00:31.329 --> 01:00:32.790
But what's yeah.
940
01:00:33.250 --> 01:00:36.069
It's deep. The symbiotic relationship, though, it's it's
941
01:00:36.835 --> 01:00:38.934
it's always been there. And
942
01:00:39.474 --> 01:00:42.775
some of the researchers know this, especially within our own government.
943
01:00:43.154 --> 01:00:49.800
They're wondering why, you know, we had airships before we had spaceships. So then once we had spaceships, then we had
944
01:00:50.180 --> 01:00:52.520
u UFOs and UFOs and UAPs.
945
01:00:53.060 --> 01:00:58.455
Right? I mean, even within Alexander the Great in his diary, they're talking about flying shields.
946
01:00:58.835 --> 01:01:00.515
Yeah. Why? I think there are some,
947
01:01:01.234 --> 01:01:02.215
paintings from
948
01:01:03.720 --> 01:01:09.020
Da Vinci with with with UFOs and and stuff like that on it. So so let me
949
01:01:09.640 --> 01:01:10.140
Mhmm.
950
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:15.615
So the thing is, like, is it something that's always been there? Probably.
951
01:01:17.275 --> 01:01:18.575
But how did,
952
01:01:19.275 --> 01:01:20.734
these people look at it?
953
01:01:21.109 --> 01:01:26.250
Right? Because you can you can say probably, like, okay, Leonardo da Vinci was a great painter,
954
01:01:26.869 --> 01:01:36.255
an inventor and stuff like that. He was a mushroom. He did some crazy stuff, and then he saw some some things in the sky. He painted it. And now we see
955
01:01:36.560 --> 01:01:37.300
at his,
956
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:47.975
paintings, he's just like, oh, wow. What's what's that? But we know now well, we don't know nothing, but but we we we invested in much as we can now. As much as much we can.
957
01:01:49.235 --> 01:01:53.815
But but there are several stories from the past before Roswell
958
01:01:54.730 --> 01:01:58.750
about flying sources and stuff. Eric van denigen pointed out with,
959
01:01:59.450 --> 01:02:01.470
I don't know what it's called in English, but,
960
01:02:03.315 --> 01:02:05.655
the book from, from Eric von Daniken,
961
01:02:06.435 --> 01:02:07.734
that he thought that,
962
01:02:08.915 --> 01:02:11.110
the paintings that he saw and the
963
01:02:11.670 --> 01:02:15.370
inscriptions from from from stones, like, this is an alien.
964
01:02:15.990 --> 01:02:17.530
Yeah. But what what
965
01:02:17.910 --> 01:02:20.970
if they always interacted with us and we were
966
01:02:21.385 --> 01:02:24.285
on a friendly base, we knew what they were. Right.
967
01:02:24.905 --> 01:02:34.270
They brought us some, let's say, some knowledge and wisdom and stuff like that. Like like the angels did in the bible, you know, that there are some angels that gave us
968
01:02:35.914 --> 01:02:36.414
makeup
969
01:02:36.795 --> 01:02:42.174
Technology and stuff. All that. Yeah. Yeah. That always bugged me too because it's like, well, okay. If they're all demons,
970
01:02:43.035 --> 01:02:44.335
right, don't wear makeup.
971
01:02:45.089 --> 01:02:45.589
Right.
972
01:02:45.890 --> 01:02:47.750
Don't don't go to war,
973
01:02:48.050 --> 01:02:50.150
but you know how to do it. Oh
974
01:02:50.690 --> 01:02:53.670
my. That always mess with me. It's like, okay.
975
01:02:54.845 --> 01:02:56.224
Yeah. You're right. And
976
01:02:57.005 --> 01:03:02.385
this this whole thing, though, it confounds me. You know, and I'm I'm getting to the point now, my friend, where
977
01:03:03.810 --> 01:03:04.710
it's like, okay.
978
01:03:05.730 --> 01:03:07.750
What if our scientific method
979
01:03:09.250 --> 01:03:10.870
is also an extension?
980
01:03:12.035 --> 01:03:19.494
Right? What what if, again, that in times past this is Collins lead research where they, you know, they have a blip on the radar. They go to it. There's nothing there.
981
01:03:19.830 --> 01:03:23.210
Well, it had to be physical. Why? Because they show up on radar. But where's it at?
982
01:03:23.510 --> 01:03:25.050
You're passing right through it.
983
01:03:25.350 --> 01:03:30.385
Right. It should be right here. Look. There's nothing here. It's on the radar.
984
01:03:31.565 --> 01:03:32.545
You'll Yeah.
985
01:03:33.485 --> 01:03:36.625
It it's it's not just stretching physics. It's
986
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:39.860
it's obliterating obliterating
987
01:03:41.520 --> 01:03:42.020
it.
988
01:03:42.560 --> 01:03:43.380
What is
989
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:44.260
nowadays
990
01:03:45.040 --> 01:03:48.295
concerned the the the the most fascinating
991
01:03:49.155 --> 01:03:49.655
research
992
01:03:50.195 --> 01:03:52.615
there is on on the topic of demonology?
993
01:03:54.780 --> 01:03:57.359
I don't know. So we have basically
994
01:03:57.660 --> 01:04:00.480
I mean, you have evangelical model, which it is Nephilim,
995
01:04:01.180 --> 01:04:01.680
and,
996
01:04:02.275 --> 01:04:03.895
you know, we have the study of giants,
997
01:04:04.915 --> 01:04:08.775
which to me is the hardware. We don't have much study on the software.
998
01:04:09.155 --> 01:04:18.150
Mhmm. And by the way, which is a consciousness. And by the way, if we are dealing, which I if we are dealing, which I gotta answer your question, but you know me, I'm a ADHD guy. So I'm I agree too, Skip. But if we take if we take all this,
999
01:04:21.715 --> 01:04:30.695
yeah. I know. Right? That's all I know. No. Wait a minute. Oh, no, Nathaniel. But, yeah, we're looking at the nephilippine. We're looking at the hybridization program. Why couldn't this be just an
1000
01:04:31.220 --> 01:04:32.920
quated idea of AI?
1001
01:04:34.180 --> 01:04:37.320
Or consciousness this is what I'm because I'm I'm gonna be
1002
01:04:37.700 --> 01:04:39.320
constructing a lecture on necronetics,
1003
01:04:39.875 --> 01:04:45.415
and then my second book is gonna be on necronetics, which is centered around self replication of species.
1004
01:04:45.875 --> 01:04:47.974
Mhmm. But if we're looking at
1005
01:04:48.300 --> 01:04:50.720
my current model, which it encapsulates
1006
01:04:51.020 --> 01:04:51.520
everything,
1007
01:04:52.300 --> 01:04:54.240
I I'm coming from the perspective
1008
01:04:55.135 --> 01:04:59.155
this is just for now that at least some of these beings are discarnate.
1009
01:05:01.775 --> 01:05:03.075
And that's why
1010
01:05:04.530 --> 01:05:05.270
I have
1011
01:05:05.810 --> 01:05:06.310
located
1012
01:05:06.770 --> 01:05:10.070
virtually every nuance of demonology within one
1013
01:05:10.690 --> 01:05:11.190
esoteric
1014
01:05:11.490 --> 01:05:11.990
right,
1015
01:05:12.805 --> 01:05:16.025
and that was transferring consciousness from one body to another.
1016
01:05:18.565 --> 01:05:19.065
Pregnation,
1017
01:05:20.165 --> 01:05:20.665
possession,
1018
01:05:21.770 --> 01:05:23.450
all of the above. That's this is the
1019
01:05:24.250 --> 01:05:37.025
you know, it's sort of placing my soul or their soul, the practitioner's soul into another fetus and then taking the fetus for its own. You wrote all the letter. You you wrote the people's paper where it wasn't in one practice. So many things came through
1020
01:05:37.860 --> 01:05:40.360
that you can't deny it that You know?
1021
01:05:40.900 --> 01:05:43.800
Yeah. It's it's like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a prescription.
1022
01:05:44.260 --> 01:05:46.200
You know what I mean? Okay. What is this?
1023
01:05:46.500 --> 01:05:47.815
What does it consist of?
1024
01:05:48.275 --> 01:05:49.494
Okay. All these ingredients.
1025
01:05:49.875 --> 01:05:59.380
Well, it's impossible. But once you combine them, what do you have? You have this. And so but and, again, that's another interconnectivity with the occult. The occult is not a bug. It's a feature.
1026
01:05:59.680 --> 01:06:07.214
And so if we're if we're continuously looking for, you know, for science and say, okay. Scientifically, what are these? It's like, okay. Well, scientifically, what's the spirit?
1027
01:06:08.395 --> 01:06:10.175
Scientifically, why do they want alters?
1028
01:06:12.050 --> 01:06:21.865
Those questions cannot be answered. So we have to have both of them. But, anyways, now what I'm looking at, okay, is okay. It's separate applications, pieces. But if this is if these are discarnate, then this would be a breakaway civilization.
1029
01:06:23.605 --> 01:06:29.040
If they are discarnate, then this also would be a form of AI, but it's almost inverted where the body itself
1030
01:06:29.580 --> 01:06:30.960
Mhmm. Is artificial.
1031
01:06:33.100 --> 01:06:37.115
The real thing there is consciousness. I'm just toying with it at the moment.
1032
01:06:37.735 --> 01:06:39.435
Yeah. But but the the real
1033
01:06:41.015 --> 01:06:44.075
crazy stuff nowadays is that someone programmed,
1034
01:06:45.030 --> 01:06:46.010
like an Alexa,
1035
01:06:47.270 --> 01:06:48.970
for example, the AI Alexa,
1036
01:06:49.590 --> 01:06:51.130
like a stupid little cube
1037
01:06:51.750 --> 01:06:52.570
that could
1038
01:06:53.704 --> 01:06:58.125
learn from everything that we ask. She's gonna be on the Internet.
1039
01:06:58.425 --> 01:07:03.085
She's scattered all around the place. She's collecting data. And with that data, she
1040
01:07:04.250 --> 01:07:04.750
evolves
1041
01:07:05.210 --> 01:07:06.110
more and more.
1042
01:07:06.650 --> 01:07:07.150
So
1043
01:07:08.650 --> 01:07:09.630
when you first
1044
01:07:10.010 --> 01:07:21.700
ask some questions to Alexa, you didn't know what what the answer was because it took quite some time, and and it was, like, briefly, like, what color do you like, or what what what's the weather gonna be? You know? Stuff like that.
1045
01:07:22.160 --> 01:07:27.565
But nowadays, you can if you see AI, like chat GPT and stuff like that, it's
1046
01:07:29.385 --> 01:07:30.525
so mind boggling
1047
01:07:30.984 --> 01:07:34.605
what it can do. And especially when 2 people have
1048
01:07:35.410 --> 01:07:36.150
an a telephone,
1049
01:07:36.930 --> 01:07:43.990
and they both put up, like, chat gpt, and the both their boss start talking. AI start to do it's gonna be good.
1050
01:07:44.355 --> 01:07:45.575
Holy shit.
1051
01:07:46.674 --> 01:07:49.714
Oh, yeah. What what are you into? Oh, wow. I'm into,
1052
01:07:50.194 --> 01:07:55.520
you know, the the data system, blah blah blah. And it's still like, woah. This is mind boggling.
1053
01:07:56.300 --> 01:07:57.600
But because we
1054
01:07:58.220 --> 01:08:01.424
and coming back to your point, which you said. Mhmm.
1055
01:08:01.724 --> 01:08:05.345
What if there are, let's say entities or creatures
1056
01:08:06.684 --> 01:08:07.184
that
1057
01:08:08.710 --> 01:08:09.450
know how
1058
01:08:09.830 --> 01:08:10.330
to
1059
01:08:11.430 --> 01:08:19.065
get our energy, get our knowledge via these things that are much more advanced than we are because we think we're so superior,
1060
01:08:19.845 --> 01:08:21.785
but we're not. We're just species.
1061
01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:24.340
Right? Mhmm. I mean,
1062
01:08:27.120 --> 01:08:38.465
we don't compare each other to animals, although we are just one species of animals walking around, but we want to define ourselves as humans. Oh, we're separate from all the things. But everything
1063
01:08:39.310 --> 01:08:43.090
on this Earth, flora and fauna has a way, a purpose,
1064
01:08:43.710 --> 01:08:44.610
and a surviving
1065
01:08:44.910 --> 01:08:45.410
mechanism.
1066
01:08:47.070 --> 01:08:49.245
A lot of things do not have emotions.
1067
01:08:49.785 --> 01:08:54.045
Although, I think, like, trees and and mushrooms and stuff like that, they have some consciousness
1068
01:08:54.665 --> 01:09:07.630
just like we have. But because we can think and we can speak, we think we're superior to them. But that makes no sense to me. Because when you think about that, you cut off so many branches of
1069
01:09:08.324 --> 01:09:09.625
what could be possible
1070
01:09:10.085 --> 01:09:13.864
about other creatures, about other creations of nature,
1071
01:09:15.180 --> 01:09:20.000
that maybe were just like just like the light spectrum, but just in the middle.
1072
01:09:20.380 --> 01:09:22.160
Right? And you got them,
1073
01:09:23.260 --> 01:09:23.760
several
1074
01:09:25.015 --> 01:09:25.915
plants and
1075
01:09:26.295 --> 01:09:32.315
and and animals that that come before us and some that are much more advanced, like some,
1076
01:09:32.695 --> 01:09:33.195
octopus.
1077
01:09:33.670 --> 01:09:35.929
I mean, these are fascinating creatures.
1078
01:09:36.630 --> 01:09:39.210
Oh, yeah. I think we had a conversation about that a while ago.
1079
01:09:39.590 --> 01:09:43.449
Right? Where it could just change colors and blend in with its environment? Yeah.
1080
01:09:43.815 --> 01:09:46.395
What is that? You're looking at it. You are.
1081
01:09:46.775 --> 01:09:52.315
But you're not seeing it. Exactly. Crazy. You're seeing it. It's it's it's so it's weird. You know? It's paradox.
1082
01:09:52.700 --> 01:09:53.020
But,
1083
01:09:54.300 --> 01:09:56.880
yeah. So I'll tell you what I'm doing lately, and this
1084
01:09:57.820 --> 01:09:58.880
is new research.
1085
01:10:00.285 --> 01:10:05.505
If that's cool. Because it's kinda Yes. Please. On the line. On the lines of what we're doing. So if we're going back into antiquity,
1086
01:10:06.285 --> 01:10:07.985
there was this self replication
1087
01:10:08.310 --> 01:10:09.610
of species constantly.
1088
01:10:10.070 --> 01:10:14.730
And we can look at it through various lenses, definitely hybridization all of that. But
1089
01:10:15.515 --> 01:10:16.655
when you go into
1090
01:10:17.915 --> 01:10:18.415
vehicle
1091
01:10:18.875 --> 01:10:19.375
practices,
1092
01:10:20.955 --> 01:10:22.255
this is coming from
1093
01:10:23.230 --> 01:10:25.409
just various demonologies, one of Bernard Gordon.
1094
01:10:26.110 --> 01:10:26.850
But anyways,
1095
01:10:27.230 --> 01:10:28.530
you had the practitioner
1096
01:10:28.830 --> 01:10:31.409
and she was called the baal ob.
1097
01:10:32.764 --> 01:10:35.264
That was the working title of a necromancer
1098
01:10:35.965 --> 01:10:36.784
in Mesopotamia.
1099
01:10:38.205 --> 01:10:41.264
Baal ob. Ob. Sometimes pronounced ob.
1100
01:10:42.910 --> 01:10:43.410
And
1101
01:10:44.190 --> 01:10:45.010
this phenomenon
1102
01:10:45.790 --> 01:10:48.210
consisted of an avatar person
1103
01:10:49.925 --> 01:10:50.425
where
1104
01:10:50.804 --> 01:10:53.224
usually it was a female. She would be given
1105
01:10:55.045 --> 01:10:55.864
a insights
1106
01:10:56.165 --> 01:10:57.784
into this individual
1107
01:10:58.290 --> 01:11:05.110
that's communicating with her. So you like, okay, Rob. We'd be talking. Okay. This is so and so. I'm getting an impression. Right?
1108
01:11:05.570 --> 01:11:09.345
So I'd be talking to you. Mhmm. And so that was one definition
1109
01:11:10.685 --> 01:11:11.745
of the old.
1110
01:11:12.525 --> 01:11:14.065
That was the medium,
1111
01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:17.100
the person, the medium. Right. That's one definition.
1112
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:19.020
The second definition
1113
01:11:19.400 --> 01:11:20.860
is the ancestor.
1114
01:11:22.585 --> 01:11:23.324
The ancestral
1115
01:11:24.344 --> 01:11:25.244
yes. Themselves.
1116
01:11:25.784 --> 01:11:28.284
So first, it's the the the medium
1117
01:11:28.665 --> 01:11:31.165
the ancestor is communicating to and through.
1118
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:32.020
Uh-huh.
1119
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:35.380
Then the second definition is the entity itself.
1120
01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:40.855
The third definition, my friend, is the material
1121
01:11:41.235 --> 01:11:41.735
image
1122
01:11:42.995 --> 01:11:43.975
of the entity.
1123
01:11:44.915 --> 01:11:45.415
Right.
1124
01:11:46.570 --> 01:11:49.470
So in one concept, you have the medium,
1125
01:11:50.490 --> 01:11:52.030
which is the instrumentation
1126
01:11:52.650 --> 01:11:53.150
Mhmm.
1127
01:11:53.695 --> 01:11:57.555
Amplifying the voice. Right. Then you have the possessing entity,
1128
01:11:58.255 --> 01:12:00.035
which is the actual entity.
1129
01:12:00.415 --> 01:12:04.449
Right. And then you have the material image of the entity's apparition.
1130
01:12:07.150 --> 01:12:07.650
Now
1131
01:12:08.750 --> 01:12:09.969
I found that.
1132
01:12:10.625 --> 01:12:15.765
I combine that with what I realized and kind of sought out with in respect to,
1133
01:12:16.545 --> 01:12:21.070
what is it? The epakopita of John where it was it was making bodies in the own image. Right?
1134
01:12:21.770 --> 01:12:23.710
Mhmm. And then possessing them.
1135
01:12:24.330 --> 01:12:24.890
I am
1136
01:12:26.090 --> 01:12:27.050
What's happening with
1137
01:12:28.545 --> 01:12:29.364
You saw that?
1138
01:12:30.385 --> 01:12:31.125
What was that?
1139
01:12:31.585 --> 01:12:32.324
I saw
1140
01:12:32.625 --> 01:12:33.605
our light works,
1141
01:12:34.784 --> 01:12:36.324
fireworks going after
1142
01:12:36.940 --> 01:12:50.414
You you were just, like, blend it out and fireworks started when you started Oh, that's Zoom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Celebrate and all that. Weird. I don't know. We're gonna see it on a video. It's like Oh, no, man. That's weird. But
1143
01:12:52.240 --> 01:12:53.620
a lot of times within demonology,
1144
01:12:54.640 --> 01:13:03.355
not you and I, but we in the field, we always think, okay, that that that grandpa's demons are today's demons or at least that intelligence and antiquity. Oh, okay. It's doing the same thing now. It's not.
1145
01:13:03.815 --> 01:13:04.315
Mhmm.
1146
01:13:05.014 --> 01:13:07.594
What we're looking at now is it's it's almost
1147
01:13:08.110 --> 01:13:09.810
in the creation of the avatar.
1148
01:13:10.750 --> 01:13:12.770
It's all it's creating the medium.
1149
01:13:14.910 --> 01:13:15.970
In that avatar
1150
01:13:16.590 --> 01:13:17.570
is the medium.
1151
01:13:18.815 --> 01:13:22.755
You also have the possessing spirit, which is the second definition of the oak,
1152
01:13:23.535 --> 01:13:25.050
the consciousness possessing it.
1153
01:13:25.690 --> 01:13:29.630
Then you have the physical body, which is the avatar itself.
1154
01:13:30.809 --> 01:13:34.349
So in all three definitions of the hope, we have the hybridization
1155
01:13:34.835 --> 01:13:35.335
program.
1156
01:13:35.715 --> 01:13:37.655
And so now you have the phenomenon
1157
01:13:38.034 --> 01:13:41.655
facilitating its own disability of being. I have an avatar
1158
01:13:42.310 --> 01:13:44.890
that I can possess like the medium in antiquity.
1159
01:13:48.070 --> 01:13:50.570
Does it make it sense? It's all of the above.
1160
01:13:50.974 --> 01:13:56.914
And so we're thinking and now we have a model currently where we say, okay. It's AI. That is in a sense.
1161
01:13:58.110 --> 01:14:07.065
But what we've done, we've allowed we've allowed the phenomenon to indoctrinate us. Okay. Well, it's purely oh my god. It's paying off that. What if this is a form of AI?
1162
01:14:07.365 --> 01:14:09.625
Where yes. And and, again, the instrumentation
1163
01:14:10.165 --> 01:14:11.225
is the material
1164
01:14:11.605 --> 01:14:12.425
body itself.
1165
01:14:12.805 --> 01:14:13.305
Right.
1166
01:14:14.540 --> 01:14:18.720
And so, like, okay. If we look at a robot, what do we have? We have the material avatar,
1167
01:14:19.180 --> 01:14:20.720
the image of the consciousness
1168
01:14:21.180 --> 01:14:22.880
possessing it. Mhmm.
1169
01:14:23.935 --> 01:14:26.515
And so what I'm suggesting here is that
1170
01:14:27.135 --> 01:14:28.835
this the occult connection
1171
01:14:29.375 --> 01:14:29.875
evolved
1172
01:14:30.830 --> 01:14:36.210
into where in times past it was. I'm I'm possessing a woman or another body to communicate.
1173
01:14:36.590 --> 01:14:41.074
But in the in the creating of its own fetal tissue, in the embryonic
1174
01:14:41.775 --> 01:14:42.275
possession
1175
01:14:42.815 --> 01:14:45.074
Mhmm. It has its own medium.
1176
01:14:45.910 --> 01:14:48.090
It's it has its own material image,
1177
01:14:48.390 --> 01:14:51.770
and it is in fact that ancestor you're witnessing
1178
01:14:52.310 --> 01:14:54.010
all in one body.
1179
01:14:54.915 --> 01:14:55.415
Oh.
1180
01:14:56.594 --> 01:15:09.900
And so this is why I believe that that's what they were trying to tell us, our ancestors. We need these the experience. Okay. Look. Yeah. We're in the 1st century. Even before that, yeah, we're in later in age. But what they were trying to teach us today is exactly what we're witnessing in real time. Mhmm.
1181
01:15:10.545 --> 01:15:14.804
It's not it's not iRobot. It's not Neuralink in a sense.
1182
01:15:15.185 --> 01:15:22.520
It's literally whatever the species is. It seems like that a little bit, but it's literally the replication of its own existence.
1183
01:15:22.980 --> 01:15:30.105
Mhmm. It all bodied up in one. Yeah. It's the ancestor that's possessing entity. Yeah. Is it the biological avatar? Absolutely.
1184
01:15:30.485 --> 01:15:32.105
But it's also amplifying
1185
01:15:32.405 --> 01:15:34.425
that entity's ability to communicate.
1186
01:15:34.805 --> 01:15:40.890
Matter of fact, in antiquity, specifically within Syria, said at Saint Paul Sainclair show a while ago, is that
1187
01:15:41.430 --> 01:15:43.930
they were being visited by what were called I idols
1188
01:15:44.925 --> 01:15:47.905
or actually entities that they made idols after.
1189
01:15:48.845 --> 01:15:49.345
And
1190
01:15:49.805 --> 01:15:51.585
now we're getting the ancestor. Right?
1191
01:15:51.970 --> 01:16:00.870
And this is in the same corner of Syria that they're building altars. It's it's crazy stuff. But, essentially, what happened was they were being visited by a species
1192
01:16:02.445 --> 01:16:05.505
that had told these practitioners that we're your ancestors.
1193
01:16:06.285 --> 01:16:09.265
Uh-huh. And so when remember when I told you about statues?
1194
01:16:09.570 --> 01:16:13.510
Yeah. Right? Molding the mind of the man before the man molded the image.
1195
01:16:13.970 --> 01:16:18.230
Yes. Yes. This is another case another case of this where they created I Idols.
1196
01:16:18.645 --> 01:16:21.304
They begin to worship them. Now what do these I Idols look like?
1197
01:16:22.485 --> 01:16:23.385
Large eyes,
1198
01:16:24.244 --> 01:16:25.625
no mouths, and no ears.
1199
01:16:28.280 --> 01:16:36.140
Why it see where I'm going? It's the same this is the hybridization program of the Vont. Right. It's the ancestral worship, ancestral worship.
1200
01:16:36.985 --> 01:16:38.605
All of it's present. But, anyways,
1201
01:16:38.985 --> 01:16:48.550
it's so anthropologists got a hold of these figurines. They're like, okay. What what are they? And so they had a conference and they all agreed on this fact. This is incredible. That the reason these individuals
1202
01:16:49.010 --> 01:16:55.475
made the images without noses, mouths, or eyes or ears rather is because of the way they communicated.
1203
01:16:57.695 --> 01:16:58.595
They communicated
1204
01:16:59.535 --> 01:17:00.755
by virtue of telepathy.
1205
01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:04.740
They communicated with the I no. Don't need them.
1206
01:17:06.080 --> 01:17:06.580
So
1207
01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:10.180
within that pocket, not just in that pocket of the world,
1208
01:17:10.605 --> 01:17:12.705
but literally in the same time frame.
1209
01:17:14.125 --> 01:17:19.265
We have the hybridization pro program coming in where we have okay. I'm self replicating through the wounds of women.
1210
01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:24.220
Right? And and and the infants were they're taking are are the material image
1211
01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:26.780
of the entity possessing them.
1212
01:17:28.315 --> 01:17:33.135
Now we know why we're in talking to them even through abduction accounts. They don't speak. They communicate
1213
01:17:33.675 --> 01:17:35.614
even through the biological avatar.
1214
01:17:36.440 --> 01:17:40.700
Why? Where does this all come from? Does it make it sense? I hope this is.
1215
01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:48.605
Excuse me. I'm rattling in my brain now because I got so much information, and it makes so much sense.
1216
01:17:49.305 --> 01:17:50.605
That's what they're doing. Yeah.
1217
01:17:51.065 --> 01:17:51.565
Why
1218
01:17:51.945 --> 01:17:57.060
why does it show up everywhere when you have an about or reductions or whatever? You
1219
01:17:57.680 --> 01:17:58.180
know?
1220
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:01.540
And, of course, there are some programming.
1221
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:02.420
Right?
1222
01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:03.860
If you Right.
1223
01:18:06.045 --> 01:18:09.985
There is some program, but I think also there are other species that
1224
01:18:10.365 --> 01:18:11.185
have been
1225
01:18:11.860 --> 01:18:14.120
discovered already or they showed themselves,
1226
01:18:14.980 --> 01:18:18.600
but they wanna be rest in they wanna be left, alone.
1227
01:18:18.995 --> 01:18:27.175
They're more powerful than us. They're living on the same Earth. It it don't come from galaxies or whatever. That's well, that's my belief system. Right?
1228
01:18:30.420 --> 01:18:31.640
Because we we
1229
01:18:32.180 --> 01:18:38.520
I was I was flying to the to America the other day. I was I was going to Los Angeles for the first time in my life to America.
1230
01:18:39.065 --> 01:18:41.164
Cool. And I flew 11 hours.
1231
01:18:41.625 --> 01:18:49.889
Probably your flight was also, like, 11 hours to to, Los Angeles. Stop 9. About 9. So yeah. So so you you're going across,
1232
01:18:50.290 --> 01:18:54.070
America and then long distances of water.
1233
01:18:54.770 --> 01:18:55.270
Mhmm.
1234
01:18:57.655 --> 01:18:59.675
Everybody knows the story of Atlantis.
1235
01:19:00.215 --> 01:19:05.275
Well, you know, it it's been it it was there. It it we don't don't know where it is, whatever.
1236
01:19:07.969 --> 01:19:09.909
Well, why couldn't there
1237
01:19:10.449 --> 01:19:11.350
be species
1238
01:19:11.890 --> 01:19:12.710
that survive
1239
01:19:13.409 --> 01:19:14.310
within water
1240
01:19:14.935 --> 01:19:20.635
and have, like, vast cities on the water, and they can breathe there. Or maybe there is, like, a,
1241
01:19:21.175 --> 01:19:22.715
like, if you have a
1242
01:19:23.580 --> 01:19:28.159
a mug and you put it upside down and you put it into the water, you have air
1243
01:19:28.780 --> 01:19:40.695
under it, and you can dive into it. Right? So there are so many possibilities about things that we just don't know. And when you see the flight routes are all the same
1244
01:19:41.150 --> 01:19:45.330
and the shipping routes also. So everything that's gonna be,
1245
01:19:45.790 --> 01:19:48.370
let's say, 5 miles from that route,
1246
01:19:49.105 --> 01:19:49.764
we don't
1247
01:19:50.145 --> 01:19:51.284
know. Right.
1248
01:19:51.744 --> 01:19:53.685
I mean, it makes no sense for,
1249
01:19:54.065 --> 01:20:00.410
for Google to to to hire a a plane and to make pictures out of that, and probably they don't want to.
1250
01:20:01.750 --> 01:20:08.054
And if they find something that, I mean, there are very talented people with,
1251
01:20:08.535 --> 01:20:18.530
Photoshop and stuff like that. Just like, okay. Don't point it out. No. Antarctica is also white, completely white. Doesn't make any sense, but, you know, we just want to paint it white.
1252
01:20:19.575 --> 01:20:21.595
Yeah. It's crazy stuff.
1253
01:20:22.135 --> 01:20:23.515
And Yeah. You're right.
1254
01:20:24.375 --> 01:20:26.395
And it's it it it always,
1255
01:20:27.590 --> 01:20:35.110
especially when you're just like me, ADHD, you you dig into a topic just, oh, I wanna know more. You know? And you're gonna and,
1256
01:20:36.835 --> 01:20:38.215
yeah, the more you know,
1257
01:20:38.835 --> 01:20:54.685
the the more the less you know, the more answers you have. But but yeah, you're gonna touch base on on some things like, okay. The the this is this. This is that. Oh, this connects with that what I saw the other day. Disconnect from that thing from the book.
1258
01:20:55.145 --> 01:20:55.645
Whatever.
1259
01:20:56.665 --> 01:20:57.165
But
1260
01:20:57.545 --> 01:20:58.925
to think that
1261
01:21:00.980 --> 01:21:07.060
the thing yeah. What do we think? Right? Our thoughts are so powerful. So that would
1262
01:21:07.665 --> 01:21:11.925
when we hopped on this podcast, the the thoughts of thinking that
1263
01:21:12.305 --> 01:21:13.844
something is there in reality
1264
01:21:14.545 --> 01:21:16.245
or maybe some entity
1265
01:21:17.660 --> 01:21:24.320
wants to show himself with his belief system, like, he's gonna manifest that throughout his way of manifestation.
1266
01:21:25.315 --> 01:21:27.895
Correct. Correct. Correct. Could show up.
1267
01:21:28.994 --> 01:21:30.215
Yes. And it's limitless.
1268
01:21:30.755 --> 01:21:31.735
It's limitless.
1269
01:21:33.820 --> 01:21:41.855
Yeah. We're not on the top of the food chain. Yeah. Especially when you see that, okay. We we discover, like, 5% of, of the oceans. Okay. 3rd.
1270
01:21:42.735 --> 01:21:43.875
How many discovered
1271
01:21:44.255 --> 01:21:46.114
did did we discover from the land?
1272
01:21:46.415 --> 01:21:51.840
If you look at China, right, it's such a huge country, like Asia in total.
1273
01:21:52.719 --> 01:21:55.139
Only the cities are on on the on the coastline.
1274
01:21:55.599 --> 01:21:56.900
There are some spaces.
1275
01:21:57.599 --> 01:22:01.275
There are some lands. You can go there because a plane,
1276
01:22:01.655 --> 01:22:03.575
you can flow over flew flow
1277
01:22:03.975 --> 01:22:10.510
fly over it. But if you're gonna be dropped there, you're gonna be you know, that that's it. We're gonna Mhmm.
1278
01:22:10.890 --> 01:22:15.390
Helicopter, it's it's gonna take too long to get there and to get back.
1279
01:22:15.965 --> 01:22:23.905
You know, stuff like that that that we do not know. Undiscovered. Yeah. Right. So if you we're talking about demons. We're talking about ghosts.
1280
01:22:24.470 --> 01:22:26.010
But, also, there are some,
1281
01:22:26.390 --> 01:22:27.770
like, the dark man,
1282
01:22:30.870 --> 01:22:31.370
sasquatch.
1283
01:22:32.075 --> 01:22:35.215
But these are entities that are real.
1284
01:22:35.594 --> 01:22:36.975
Right? They they are,
1285
01:22:37.835 --> 01:22:40.735
not like a physical form that they can show up
1286
01:22:41.035 --> 01:22:42.800
in your house just like that.
1287
01:22:44.540 --> 01:22:48.719
What's your take on that that there are species that we we we Oh,
1288
01:22:49.365 --> 01:22:52.665
I certainly think that there are undiscovered species out there. Definitely.
1289
01:22:54.005 --> 01:22:54.665
My concern,
1290
01:22:54.965 --> 01:22:56.505
again, this gets back into
1291
01:22:57.445 --> 01:22:57.945
another
1292
01:22:58.970 --> 01:23:00.910
branch of the phenomenon where
1293
01:23:02.489 --> 01:23:04.030
there's only in my mind, there's
1294
01:23:04.410 --> 01:23:10.255
3 possibilities, but mainly 2, either that these actually exist in and of themselves.
1295
01:23:10.715 --> 01:23:12.335
They are real, tangible,
1296
01:23:12.955 --> 01:23:13.935
material entities,
1297
01:23:14.790 --> 01:23:16.650
or that these are
1298
01:23:17.030 --> 01:23:17.530
incarnations
1299
01:23:18.710 --> 01:23:21.530
of a control mechanism employed by the phenomenon
1300
01:23:22.310 --> 01:23:23.450
to where we are.
1301
01:23:24.465 --> 01:23:28.005
You're gonna need a 12 pack after this one, buddy. You're like, what? Yeah.
1302
01:23:29.025 --> 01:23:41.365
Talk to where right? We and I've done this in hunting before where I step over a log and there's a snake underneath. I didn't know it was there. And so, you know, it's protecting its territory. Get out.
1303
01:23:41.845 --> 01:23:48.345
And the reason I suggest that is sometimes the case is because of the case with both, Axelrod and Skinwalker Ranch
1304
01:23:49.130 --> 01:23:51.230
where he's from the Pentagon. He's investigating,
1305
01:23:51.530 --> 01:23:58.270
just hanging out, observing more than anything, and he gets in his car on the way home. You need to get home quicker, baby. Why? Because.
1306
01:23:59.405 --> 01:24:01.025
Right? There's a dog man
1307
01:24:01.805 --> 01:24:04.945
outside of our window staring at us and the kids.
1308
01:24:07.540 --> 01:24:11.639
That either that's an entity that's even if it was real,
1309
01:24:12.260 --> 01:24:15.239
the the sequence of events there is alarming.
1310
01:24:15.940 --> 01:24:16.440
Yeah.
1311
01:24:17.139 --> 01:24:23.705
So To where the phenomenon said, okay. If you're coming into my personal space, guess what I'm going to do with yours?
1312
01:24:24.750 --> 01:24:27.010
Right. And so this
1313
01:24:27.710 --> 01:24:30.369
this again is pointing me in a in a direction
1314
01:24:31.389 --> 01:24:32.510
where it's like, okay.
1315
01:24:33.435 --> 01:24:47.180
Was that just another physiological construct? Now here's what's even more important. Well, you know, we can go down the rabbit hole about what the definition of a physiological construct is. But more importantly, perhaps, is that when they went to investigate, it had carved its claws
1316
01:24:48.120 --> 01:24:49.260
into the tree,
1317
01:24:49.995 --> 01:24:50.975
but then dematerialized
1318
01:24:51.355 --> 01:24:51.935
to nothing.
1319
01:24:53.995 --> 01:24:57.375
So people don't believe me when I say, okay. Yes. The invasion
1320
01:24:58.810 --> 01:25:00.890
it's not just okay. Yeah. They're here and
1321
01:25:02.090 --> 01:25:03.550
no. They're inverting reality.
1322
01:25:04.970 --> 01:25:05.470
Right.
1323
01:25:07.535 --> 01:25:16.690
You and you've got to and, especially nowadays, we have to be so careful what they're gonna put out, what's the truth. Yeah. Even when you're gonna investigate it. And
1324
01:25:17.950 --> 01:25:20.130
there there's so many things going on
1325
01:25:21.025 --> 01:25:27.845
and so many timelines that cross, so many dimensions that are opened or portals or whatever you're gonna call it.
1326
01:25:28.929 --> 01:25:35.030
But, also, a lot of sightings like the same things that are showing up or species that we do not know
1327
01:25:35.365 --> 01:25:41.545
that are or scared or just want to attack you because they wanna protect their family or themselves.
1328
01:25:41.925 --> 01:25:42.725
Like, we would do
1329
01:25:43.510 --> 01:25:46.809
if we would walk in the forest and some something comes up,
1330
01:25:47.349 --> 01:25:47.929
you know?
1331
01:25:49.670 --> 01:25:52.945
You're right. You're right. It's so in some ways that we can kind of
1332
01:25:53.245 --> 01:25:56.304
understand that, like I said, that control mechanism.
1333
01:25:57.324 --> 01:25:58.304
But this
1334
01:25:58.969 --> 01:26:01.469
opened my mind to a possible
1335
01:26:02.170 --> 01:26:03.230
connection here.
1336
01:26:04.250 --> 01:26:06.590
And that is that our ancestors
1337
01:26:07.295 --> 01:26:10.195
is even back then, again, late iron early late ironies,
1338
01:26:11.535 --> 01:26:13.315
they didn't have hauntology.
1339
01:26:14.690 --> 01:26:16.390
Right? They didn't have demonology.
1340
01:26:17.410 --> 01:26:21.430
Never know you then also we didn't have you know, there there was no move on. They didn't go to a headquarters
1341
01:26:22.135 --> 01:26:30.635
or a conference and dap it up. Hey, brother. Let's get a drink and talk shop. Mhmm. No. They just had the interface between them in whatever was seeking to become incarnate.
1342
01:26:31.140 --> 01:26:31.880
That's it.
1343
01:26:32.580 --> 01:26:33.720
Maybe the church
1344
01:26:34.100 --> 01:26:46.545
as as when they have some questions because the church had all the answers to questions. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. Well, yeah. And I'm I'm speaking like in the Levant, like in Mesopotamia. Right? But but yeah. You're right. You're it's it's weird.
1345
01:26:46.880 --> 01:26:51.059
But my point here is that, yeah, there wasn't some kind of codified law.
1346
01:26:51.360 --> 01:27:03.275
It was just I'm experiencing this. I'm gonna write down what I experienced. Okay. It is what it is. And so their idea of this intelligence was vastly different than ours. They did not see ghosts
1347
01:27:03.895 --> 01:27:05.594
as a separate phenomenon.
1348
01:27:06.440 --> 01:27:13.100
Right. They they just saw what they saw, and it was there. It was part of their reality.
1349
01:27:14.135 --> 01:27:14.635
Correct.
1350
01:27:14.935 --> 01:27:24.880
With without saying or defining it like, oh, that was a bird. No. No. That was a squirrel that was jumping branches. Or was it was it something like,
1351
01:27:25.420 --> 01:27:29.040
maybe a mouse or or rat? You know? You you can Right.
1352
01:27:30.195 --> 01:27:43.090
Just like you said with the plane and when when you see it on the camera, it's it's like a TikTok, for example, but but then Mhmm. All of a sudden, it turned out like a plane. But what is the plane? Was the drone? Was the glider? What there are so many questions
1353
01:27:43.710 --> 01:27:48.445
from your own perspective that you have to answer yourself, first of all. Oh, yeah.
1354
01:27:48.825 --> 01:27:52.605
And second of all, what is gonna be the reality?
1355
01:27:53.145 --> 01:27:58.820
Because that's Oh, yeah. It like, yeah. Like you said earlier, you said it very aptly. It's yeah. I mean,
1356
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:01.460
you pull on one string,
1357
01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:03.300
yet it all unravels.
1358
01:28:04.275 --> 01:28:11.574
But my point here, man, is this kinda blew my mind because I'm like, oh my oh my god. Yeah. It diversified its intelligence in our eyes.
1359
01:28:12.110 --> 01:28:12.610
Why?
1360
01:28:13.230 --> 01:28:21.455
Because we would think, okay. Yeah. It's not a branch from the same tree. These aren't separate branches from the same tree. No. It's an entirely different forest.
1361
01:28:21.935 --> 01:28:25.235
But that's what we were taught to believe by this phenomenon.
1362
01:28:25.615 --> 01:28:26.595
But our ancestors
1363
01:28:27.135 --> 01:28:29.555
believe that if they did not obey
1364
01:28:31.180 --> 01:28:31.920
these entities,
1365
01:28:32.540 --> 01:28:37.920
that these entities would turn into malevolent ghosts and haunt them. Now what does that mean?
1366
01:28:39.304 --> 01:28:41.085
That means it's a single source,
1367
01:28:41.625 --> 01:28:42.684
a singular intelligence,
1368
01:28:43.304 --> 01:28:44.125
a proto
1369
01:28:44.505 --> 01:28:49.219
intelligence is the word I've been employing as of late. But my point here is is this,
1370
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:53.219
there was no this or that. It was not a a dichotomy. It was a duality.
1371
01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:57.445
And they believe that the hauntology as a field
1372
01:28:59.505 --> 01:29:01.045
was just another arm,
1373
01:29:01.905 --> 01:29:03.445
and it was a disciplinary
1374
01:29:03.824 --> 01:29:04.324
action
1375
01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:06.739
of weaponized
1376
01:29:07.120 --> 01:29:07.620
apparitions
1377
01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:09.140
Uh-huh.
1378
01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:17.115
Employed by a phenomenon that said, listen. If you don't meet me on this hilltop and if you don't give me this sacrifice, if you don't give me a food offering,
1379
01:29:17.575 --> 01:29:23.820
instead of saying, okay. Yeah. Well, there will be no. I'm going to become this demon.
1380
01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:31.135
Right. The right? And so this is the the the the structuring and social conditioning.
1381
01:29:32.395 --> 01:29:40.300
This phenomenon put our ancestors through. This this is gonna kinda circle back. This is why when people say, okay. Well, yeah, that's this is social construct. You're right. You're right.
1382
01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:42.860
That was inspired by what?
1383
01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:44.780
It was inspired.
1384
01:29:45.240 --> 01:29:47.820
This kind of interconnects too with, with
1385
01:29:48.185 --> 01:29:53.965
the dog man. Right? Are they entities in the right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. They were there, but why were they there?
1386
01:29:54.425 --> 01:29:58.389
Well, our ancestors wrote in rituals about them. This is what we saw.
1387
01:29:59.010 --> 01:30:01.110
Uh-huh. And so this was a manifestation
1388
01:30:01.650 --> 01:30:02.550
of the protointelligence
1389
01:30:03.489 --> 01:30:05.405
designed to condition them
1390
01:30:05.804 --> 01:30:08.145
back into obedience and worship.
1391
01:30:09.085 --> 01:30:10.224
Not separate phenomenon,
1392
01:30:10.525 --> 01:30:11.744
not separate intelligences.
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01:30:12.605 --> 01:30:13.105
1.
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01:30:13.620 --> 01:30:20.760
Right. And you see that with all myths. You know, we we touched base on that on on the on the first episode about the Aboriginals,
1395
01:30:21.895 --> 01:30:23.034
the native Americans,
1396
01:30:24.215 --> 01:30:37.510
the native Indians that I don't know what's the real word that you have to pronounce nowadays because every single culture or everything they they every single day, they have another pronounce. But you know what I mean with the, the native Americans.
1397
01:30:38.385 --> 01:30:40.805
Right. They all had stories that came from,
1398
01:30:42.305 --> 01:30:45.365
from ancestor to the child's to to to their,
1399
01:30:47.110 --> 01:30:47.830
from from from,
1400
01:30:48.550 --> 01:30:52.890
age to age. They talked about myths and stuff like that. And that's
1401
01:30:53.270 --> 01:30:53.770
really
1402
01:30:54.150 --> 01:30:56.090
interesting for me. Like, the myths
1403
01:30:56.614 --> 01:31:06.290
has been told, like, if it's gonna be in Norway, if it's gonna be in Africa, it doesn't matter where you are. There are still some tribes and still some cultures that are
1404
01:31:06.830 --> 01:31:07.730
telling something
1405
01:31:09.230 --> 01:31:10.449
that their ancestors
1406
01:31:11.469 --> 01:31:12.210
has been,
1407
01:31:12.835 --> 01:31:13.335
encountered.
1408
01:31:14.114 --> 01:31:14.614
Right.
1409
01:31:16.195 --> 01:31:17.095
And when we
1410
01:31:17.635 --> 01:31:23.250
I think we are living in, like, 120 years now. Like, oh, we we we have now the
1411
01:31:23.710 --> 01:31:29.010
industrial revolution, so we wanna we wanna touch base on everything so we we can make it clear scientifically
1412
01:31:29.390 --> 01:31:30.610
what it is. Right?
1413
01:31:30.925 --> 01:31:34.305
Or we make things or what we don't know, we're gonna figure it out.
1414
01:31:35.325 --> 01:31:41.720
But how many things can't we figure out? Even if we have all the science programs, all the money, all the whatever.
1415
01:31:42.900 --> 01:31:44.440
Some things you just can't,
1416
01:31:45.140 --> 01:31:46.280
think about. So
1417
01:31:46.925 --> 01:31:47.425
when
1418
01:31:48.045 --> 01:31:54.865
for for example, in America, when the the the white man came across the sea and brought Spain and misery, our maiden,
1419
01:31:58.590 --> 01:31:59.969
When the Indians were
1420
01:32:01.230 --> 01:32:02.530
taken off their land,
1421
01:32:02.830 --> 01:32:06.955
also the heritage of all the things that they did for centuries
1422
01:32:07.255 --> 01:32:07.995
was there.
1423
01:32:08.695 --> 01:32:11.595
And Right. Haunted things that are there
1424
01:32:12.690 --> 01:32:17.030
can be related to the stories they still tell to their children. Absolutely.
1425
01:32:17.409 --> 01:32:17.909
Absolutely.
1426
01:32:18.610 --> 01:32:19.670
And that's another
1427
01:32:20.475 --> 01:32:22.094
fascinating fact. Like, okay.
1428
01:32:23.034 --> 01:32:25.215
We have something like, okay. Did they did they
1429
01:32:25.915 --> 01:32:27.935
say this and that is like a phenomena?
1430
01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:31.340
But all of a sudden, it occurs to be
1431
01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:32.940
something that's
1432
01:32:33.240 --> 01:32:36.220
opening itself or or connects with us, communicates
1433
01:32:36.600 --> 01:32:37.260
with us,
1434
01:32:37.715 --> 01:32:38.455
shows itself
1435
01:32:39.315 --> 01:32:41.575
to us in several times, and
1436
01:32:42.595 --> 01:32:43.895
it's Yeah.
1437
01:32:45.050 --> 01:32:46.750
Yeah. The so, yeah, they
1438
01:32:48.410 --> 01:32:50.350
as well as, our ancestors,
1439
01:32:50.810 --> 01:32:52.590
basically, at a certain point in history,
1440
01:32:53.265 --> 01:32:55.685
there were there was no way to communicate
1441
01:32:56.545 --> 01:33:02.165
outside of what's called mythopoic thought where, yeah, these are stories, but they're vehicles of meaning.
1442
01:33:03.570 --> 01:33:06.870
Right? And so people, okay, they just missed. They are.
1443
01:33:07.330 --> 01:33:09.750
But within the mythological
1444
01:33:10.290 --> 01:33:10.790
narrative,
1445
01:33:11.675 --> 01:33:14.815
these are stories of real true experiences.
1446
01:33:15.995 --> 01:33:20.850
You know? And so we have to understand We put the stamp on it like, oh, it's a myth. So it
1447
01:33:21.230 --> 01:33:26.369
it no. No. No. It's it's not a myth for for nothing. Right? It's not like a story.
1448
01:33:26.670 --> 01:33:30.050
A story you can make up. Correct. A fairy tale. Yeah. It's not a fairy
1449
01:33:30.465 --> 01:33:41.369
tale. And and I know it's kind of a fine line between those. People will probably kill me on that. But the thing is here is and I've been told that by many people. Oh, well, you know, you're just in mythology. Okay. That's fine.
1450
01:33:41.670 --> 01:33:44.489
But it now within the 21st century, the scientific
1451
01:33:44.790 --> 01:33:45.290
method
1452
01:33:45.784 --> 01:33:46.764
has documented
1453
01:33:47.864 --> 01:33:49.085
in modernity
1454
01:33:50.025 --> 01:33:52.684
what they were telling us existed. Uh-huh.
1455
01:33:53.290 --> 01:34:00.830
Guess what? I'm gonna go back in time and start right retracing our footsteps. And then I'd say, okay. Yeah. We know now we can prove it scientifically.
1456
01:34:01.935 --> 01:34:03.315
What were they experiencing?
1457
01:34:04.094 --> 01:34:05.554
And so I think that's
1458
01:34:05.935 --> 01:34:08.594
pretty much the cutting edge of the research now where,
1459
01:34:09.050 --> 01:34:11.470
you know, it's not scientific materialism.
1460
01:34:11.930 --> 01:34:12.670
It's it's
1461
01:34:12.970 --> 01:34:14.910
literally a technology of consciousness.
1462
01:34:16.784 --> 01:34:18.965
And now we're now we're looking retrospectively
1463
01:34:19.344 --> 01:34:23.125
and saying, alright. What does history have to say about this phenomenon?
1464
01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:30.179
And, but that that's where I'm at. But more than anything else, it's like now I'm now I'm leaning heavily into
1465
01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:32.820
researching the simulation hypothesis
1466
01:34:34.295 --> 01:34:35.595
and asking myself
1467
01:34:37.015 --> 01:34:40.315
why these beings have so much access to anything
1468
01:34:41.015 --> 01:34:41.835
and everything
1469
01:34:42.710 --> 01:34:43.770
at any time.
1470
01:34:44.070 --> 01:34:44.570
Right.
1471
01:34:45.350 --> 01:34:46.970
Because I think that
1472
01:34:48.950 --> 01:34:51.050
if they do have that kind of access
1473
01:34:52.225 --> 01:34:56.005
in yet what they and and if and if what they want from us
1474
01:34:56.545 --> 01:34:57.525
is to propagate
1475
01:34:58.145 --> 01:35:00.085
their gospel or their tradition
1476
01:35:00.810 --> 01:35:02.190
or their their mythos.
1477
01:35:02.970 --> 01:35:04.110
And if in fact,
1478
01:35:04.730 --> 01:35:09.070
we are taking it to full circle. Like I said before on this other our last show,
1479
01:35:09.594 --> 01:35:10.895
If our leading scientists,
1480
01:35:11.675 --> 01:35:13.935
they're not going they're not going to NASA.
1481
01:35:14.635 --> 01:35:19.670
They work for NASA. But they're going out into the desert, and they're doing exactly
1482
01:35:21.570 --> 01:35:23.830
what practitioners in antiquity did.
1483
01:35:24.770 --> 01:35:27.510
That means regardless of any theories,
1484
01:35:28.005 --> 01:35:28.505
hypotheses.
1485
01:35:29.525 --> 01:35:31.145
Oh, yeah. Well, these are okay.
1486
01:35:32.245 --> 01:35:33.865
Where are they at right now?
1487
01:35:34.485 --> 01:35:34.985
Right.
1488
01:35:35.850 --> 01:35:37.710
And yeah. Socially speaking,
1489
01:35:38.650 --> 01:35:43.790
so that's that's what I've been researching as of late. I'm really going to be introducing
1490
01:35:44.489 --> 01:35:45.150
the Chrometics
1491
01:35:46.954 --> 01:35:48.094
as a field.
1492
01:35:48.954 --> 01:35:51.695
And I'm creating a website. I'm creating,
1493
01:35:52.054 --> 01:35:53.695
I'm I'm a book already.
1494
01:35:54.540 --> 01:35:57.920
Yes. That's the second one. Yeah. That's the second one.
1495
01:35:58.300 --> 01:36:01.120
But yeah. Because honestly speaking here, man, I I
1496
01:36:02.035 --> 01:36:07.415
it's almost like I stumbled upon something I didn't know was there. Like, I I just thought I was researching incubate succubi.
1497
01:36:07.715 --> 01:36:13.350
Mhmm. Then once I started getting in, again, like we talked about just 20 seconds ago, a mythology of it all, I realized that, yes,
1498
01:36:14.290 --> 01:36:16.070
this is that's present.
1499
01:36:17.090 --> 01:36:19.270
And I was almost researching
1500
01:36:20.285 --> 01:36:21.105
2 intelligences
1501
01:36:21.885 --> 01:36:23.105
Uh-huh. Allegedly.
1502
01:36:23.485 --> 01:36:25.265
I thought I was researching demonology.
1503
01:36:26.045 --> 01:36:30.110
And then what I realized was, okay. Yeah. There's something here that's masquerading as that,
1504
01:36:31.550 --> 01:36:32.530
but it's not.
1505
01:36:32.909 --> 01:36:36.449
And I've actually caught the phenomenon in real time doing that,
1506
01:36:37.205 --> 01:36:41.625
where it will masquerade as an entire species or an entity or mythology.
1507
01:36:42.165 --> 01:36:48.880
And then once you threw away, okay, that's not factual. That's not rooted in history. Then you're face to face with whatever this is. Uh-huh.
1508
01:36:49.740 --> 01:36:53.200
And that's when you when I started noticing the the manipulation
1509
01:36:54.215 --> 01:36:56.235
that's taking place within our species.
1510
01:36:57.975 --> 01:37:06.980
Right? I mean, possession to us is pregnancy the pregnancy of them. Well, I thought it was just oh my god. You know, it's a language preference and it no. No. No. No. No. That's transient.
1511
01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:10.995
I mean, if you look at the the the,
1512
01:37:11.554 --> 01:37:13.735
the pregnancy of Maria and Joseph,
1513
01:37:14.915 --> 01:37:17.895
she was pregnant by the holy ghost, which was
1514
01:37:18.929 --> 01:37:19.909
not natural
1515
01:37:20.849 --> 01:37:25.750
Oh, oh, the conception. Yeah. So, you know, what is Jesus? Is he
1516
01:37:26.610 --> 01:37:27.349
you know?
1517
01:37:29.075 --> 01:37:31.735
These appear to be avatars that are
1518
01:37:32.675 --> 01:37:33.175
inhabited
1519
01:37:33.955 --> 01:37:34.455
within
1520
01:37:37.050 --> 01:37:37.789
a system.
1521
01:37:38.809 --> 01:37:39.770
Right. A
1522
01:37:40.170 --> 01:37:42.670
and I said this before. It's almost like an artificial habitat.
1523
01:37:43.685 --> 01:37:44.505
And before
1524
01:37:45.125 --> 01:37:48.665
one of them could exist in that habitat, they had to put on a suit
1525
01:37:49.045 --> 01:37:55.510
and then show up. And so then we're a we're a species within our official habitat. We see 2 character 2 characters
1526
01:37:56.050 --> 01:37:57.750
fighting over that habitat itself,
1527
01:37:58.755 --> 01:38:01.255
wearing different suits, looking at each other.
1528
01:38:02.275 --> 01:38:06.920
This is mind blowing. This is why, again, when you talk about the Imagio Dei in the image of,
1529
01:38:07.719 --> 01:38:11.340
the first mention of that was in Egyptology when it was talking about the ritual,
1530
01:38:12.120 --> 01:38:17.335
wherein someone would die. And in order to return to this dimension, they had to have an image to possess.
1531
01:38:17.875 --> 01:38:21.735
It's all this is hybridization program. This is what it is.
1532
01:38:22.140 --> 01:38:26.400
Yeah. Pure and simple. And so what they had was the image of the invisible.
1533
01:38:28.860 --> 01:38:30.800
Right? Again, the apparition
1534
01:38:31.885 --> 01:38:36.305
apparition within the biological avatar, the apparition possessing the medium,
1535
01:38:36.685 --> 01:38:40.785
the apparition. That's why my friend there we go. Yeah. That's why
1536
01:38:41.330 --> 01:38:44.310
I was talking about the old. It's all encompassing.
1537
01:38:45.090 --> 01:38:47.590
It is the avatar. It is the spirit,
1538
01:38:48.290 --> 01:38:50.230
and it is the image of the invisible.
1539
01:38:50.695 --> 01:38:51.195
Right.
1540
01:38:52.615 --> 01:38:55.435
And all the carpet could be an idol.
1541
01:38:56.455 --> 01:38:59.035
Absolutely. It's all of it. The image of the insect.
1542
01:39:00.050 --> 01:39:15.325
In the Bible, it says, don't worship an idol. Right? Absolutely. This is this is exactly what they're dealing with. And the funny thing is and the fascinating thing is I'm I'm I'm fascinating is is one of the words I have to use in this podcast because
1543
01:39:16.260 --> 01:39:18.120
this is so mind boggling.
1544
01:39:19.780 --> 01:39:19.940
When
1545
01:39:20.580 --> 01:39:22.840
and now now my a d g ADHD
1546
01:39:23.300 --> 01:39:27.715
brain kicks in. World. Because I want I want to say something like, you know,
1547
01:39:29.375 --> 01:39:35.310
shit. I lost train of thoughts, but that's okay. Maybe it pops up in in a few minutes. I don't know. Well
1548
01:39:36.170 --> 01:39:38.910
so yeah. So, I mean, this is why it it just
1549
01:39:39.610 --> 01:39:42.895
when I realized what I was looking at, I thought
1550
01:39:43.514 --> 01:39:44.895
why were they making
1551
01:39:45.275 --> 01:39:47.295
babies in their own images?
1552
01:39:49.195 --> 01:39:58.010
May no. I mean, you know, and then I saw the possession pregnancy aspect, then I realized, oh my god. They're facilitating their own disability. I mean, they're creating their own mediums.
1553
01:40:01.135 --> 01:40:01.855
It's it's
1554
01:40:02.415 --> 01:40:16.270
so it's incredible, man, but that's a whole another show. I have to I have to get my notes out and really we'll we'll dive deeper into that the next show. But yes. So essentially, that's what it was. That's why when people say, okay. This has nothing to do with religion. It's like, okay. Don't tell me that. Tell them that.
1555
01:40:16.805 --> 01:40:17.305
Right.
1556
01:40:18.725 --> 01:40:23.864
Because these are archetypes they're leaning into, whether or not we want to accept it. Exactly.
1557
01:40:24.510 --> 01:40:30.369
Why is it pointed out in scripture? In in a lot of scripture, not only in the Bible, but in a lot of these things, like times
1558
01:40:30.989 --> 01:40:32.929
when it you know, when,
1559
01:40:33.855 --> 01:40:35.635
the clay tablets and stuff like that,
1560
01:40:35.935 --> 01:40:37.395
they they pointed out, like,
1561
01:40:38.415 --> 01:40:45.400
so many things that we are still mind boggling out today and trying to figure it out. And we're living in the age of,
1562
01:40:46.180 --> 01:40:50.760
of the Internet and and some some knowledge that everyone can can gain.
1563
01:40:51.185 --> 01:40:54.405
So the the other aspect is just like you said, like,
1564
01:40:55.025 --> 01:40:58.725
152 100 years ago, our ancestors didn't have a technique. And
1565
01:40:59.130 --> 01:41:06.270
what happened is what they saw and well, they they put it in their own in their own jacket or or own bracelet.
1566
01:41:06.980 --> 01:41:11.525
Could. Right. But but now we have so much hunger to know
1567
01:41:12.625 --> 01:41:13.345
Yeah. That,
1568
01:41:13.985 --> 01:41:20.130
a lot of things happened for the last couple of 50 years since the Internet is around. You know? That the people find stuff.
1569
01:41:20.510 --> 01:41:24.130
Even if it's gonna be, something, from the government that
1570
01:41:24.635 --> 01:41:35.290
was been trying to hide for for for the people. But some hacker is just like, oh, hey. Look at this document and stuff like that. So you see that the agendas have been open folded,
1571
01:41:36.070 --> 01:41:38.810
but still there are so many questions about
1572
01:41:39.190 --> 01:41:40.090
who are we?
1573
01:41:40.710 --> 01:41:43.450
Who are these things, these entities that we encounter?
1574
01:41:43.965 --> 01:41:55.510
What is our reality? What what dimension do we have here? Some say we were living in a 2 dimensional, 3rd dimension going to the 5th. What does that mean? Is it for every single being the same,
1575
01:41:55.810 --> 01:42:00.305
or is it some beings? Why is it that some people can paranormal things
1576
01:42:00.625 --> 01:42:02.165
encounters and some don't?
1577
01:42:02.465 --> 01:42:05.045
You know, there's so many questions popping up.
1578
01:42:05.745 --> 01:42:14.190
Is it like if you level up on yourself, on your chakras, or whatever, that you could open up for these things, that you're gonna experience
1579
01:42:14.969 --> 01:42:17.469
these things? Like we touched on base before,
1580
01:42:18.355 --> 01:42:20.855
if you do, like, LSD, like psychedelics,
1581
01:42:21.875 --> 01:42:34.650
you see things differently than they are in your reality, whatever that reality is. Right? Because Right. What I'm staring at right now, I see that I concern myself that that's my reality.
1582
01:42:35.645 --> 01:42:38.225
But Is it? Oh, this is incredible. Yeah.
1583
01:42:38.525 --> 01:42:40.465
Do so so now we're getting into
1584
01:42:43.300 --> 01:42:50.440
consciousness itself. Maybe and then I don't know. People are gonna kill me for this, but it's almost to creation. Right? I mean, if we look at the software and hardware relationship
1585
01:42:51.905 --> 01:42:53.844
specifically within AI, you know,
1586
01:42:54.864 --> 01:42:56.645
AI can only ask questions
1587
01:42:58.065 --> 01:42:59.764
that it's aware to ask.
1588
01:43:00.699 --> 01:43:01.199
Right.
1589
01:43:02.059 --> 01:43:04.400
Aware enough, I should say, to ask.
1590
01:43:04.860 --> 01:43:08.639
And so within the question is built baked in the programming.
1591
01:43:11.455 --> 01:43:15.795
Yeah. And so this is the thing that Richard Dawkins is asking now.
1592
01:43:16.335 --> 01:43:17.635
You know, he's he's a
1593
01:43:18.090 --> 01:43:20.410
famous atheist. And in one debate, he's like
1594
01:43:21.050 --> 01:43:22.750
he he he emits he said that
1595
01:43:23.290 --> 01:43:27.995
while he doesn't believe there is a creator, he believes that it is designed
1596
01:43:28.695 --> 01:43:34.315
or something within designed within us to ask and believe in the creator.
1597
01:43:35.335 --> 01:43:35.895
So this
1598
01:43:36.630 --> 01:43:38.710
right now, we're dealing with the question of,
1599
01:43:39.349 --> 01:43:44.250
is it possible that this was the whole purpose of the phenomenon itself is to make us question reality?
1600
01:43:46.685 --> 01:43:49.585
That the reason we're having this question now.
1601
01:43:50.365 --> 01:43:53.745
Right? And Neo with the black cat. Why?
1602
01:43:56.170 --> 01:43:59.550
In in that the right. The creation of the habitat
1603
01:44:00.410 --> 01:44:01.230
is facilitating,
1604
01:44:01.530 --> 01:44:03.630
and then it's possible something else
1605
01:44:04.395 --> 01:44:06.815
broke into it and wanted us to realize,
1606
01:44:07.515 --> 01:44:08.015
hey.
1607
01:44:08.555 --> 01:44:10.175
Everything is not as it seems.
1608
01:44:10.635 --> 01:44:17.960
I don't know. I'm I'm I'm just throwing that out there. Yeah. Yeah. We're just rambling our minds. But But the same thing goes with if you look at okay. Someone
1609
01:44:19.540 --> 01:44:21.560
programmed AI so it can
1610
01:44:22.305 --> 01:44:28.565
answer your questions with deep diving into the Internet. Right? But if you see, like, a a baby,
1611
01:44:29.420 --> 01:44:32.400
it's gonna be little steps feeding into
1612
01:44:33.260 --> 01:44:34.320
its consciousness
1613
01:44:35.420 --> 01:44:37.519
to develop the things that
1614
01:44:37.835 --> 01:44:43.135
she Here we go. Whatever develops in her life so she can answer the questions or she can,
1615
01:44:45.035 --> 01:44:47.535
answer question or question some answers. Right?
1616
01:44:47.880 --> 01:44:48.380
Yes.
1617
01:44:48.840 --> 01:44:55.500
With language, with with whatever. If you see how we have been build up from a baby that can do nothing
1618
01:44:56.200 --> 01:44:56.700
to,
1619
01:44:57.245 --> 01:45:01.344
like, grown ups. We can take care of our own food. We can survive.
1620
01:45:01.805 --> 01:45:02.705
We can communicate
1621
01:45:03.085 --> 01:45:03.985
several languages.
1622
01:45:04.844 --> 01:45:06.605
All this stuff that that's
1623
01:45:07.230 --> 01:45:07.969
you know, we think
1624
01:45:08.590 --> 01:45:14.449
that AIs are it's just like the beginning of AI. Yeah. But we were in the beginning in the cradle of,
1625
01:45:14.909 --> 01:45:21.695
There we go. Also. So we go. Yes. Yes. How am I forming these words because of the language? How do I know the language?
1626
01:45:22.554 --> 01:45:26.014
Because I had the ability to learn. Well, how did I know to learn?
1627
01:45:26.430 --> 01:45:30.450
Yeah. Right? So so there are things, right, that are built into the,
1628
01:45:31.790 --> 01:45:34.130
I should say, the evolution of our species.
1629
01:45:34.675 --> 01:45:36.535
But and I'm not saying that within
1630
01:45:37.235 --> 01:45:42.780
the that that that the certain context that most people place it in, you know, Darwinism. But what I'm suggesting here
1631
01:45:43.320 --> 01:45:44.219
is that
1632
01:45:45.080 --> 01:45:46.380
this this is not reality
1633
01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:49.340
and that whatever we're dealing with
1634
01:45:50.225 --> 01:45:52.085
has seemingly invaded it.
1635
01:45:53.825 --> 01:45:56.005
And in order to manifest
1636
01:45:56.785 --> 01:45:57.320
to us,
1637
01:45:58.040 --> 01:46:00.380
it had to invade reality first.
1638
01:46:02.360 --> 01:46:02.860
Right.
1639
01:46:03.800 --> 01:46:08.465
Think about that. These are these are emanations and incarnations of something that had invaded.
1640
01:46:09.485 --> 01:46:11.025
Just the the very fabric
1641
01:46:11.405 --> 01:46:12.625
of what we know.
1642
01:46:13.290 --> 01:46:15.710
Everything that yeah. I mean, from
1643
01:46:16.090 --> 01:46:16.830
a a biological
1644
01:46:17.930 --> 01:46:19.150
organic standpoint
1645
01:46:20.010 --> 01:46:21.470
down to the atom
1646
01:46:22.885 --> 01:46:23.385
invasion
1647
01:46:24.965 --> 01:46:26.265
and then atomically
1648
01:46:26.645 --> 01:46:28.265
building itself up
1649
01:46:29.125 --> 01:46:31.465
and then interfacing with you and I.
1650
01:46:33.780 --> 01:46:38.680
This is, again, this is that's why I asked the blade, man. I'm just like, alright.
1651
01:46:41.395 --> 01:46:44.215
You know, will I be doing this in 10 years? I don't know.
1652
01:46:45.395 --> 01:46:48.295
Because our government knows this. They know
1653
01:46:49.310 --> 01:46:52.210
in Will it sorry to interrupt you. Okay.
1654
01:46:52.830 --> 01:46:54.290
Does it depend on
1655
01:46:55.470 --> 01:46:58.690
the answers you get to the questions that you have about these topics?
1656
01:46:59.614 --> 01:47:01.155
Or is it about,
1657
01:47:02.895 --> 01:47:04.995
the stuff that you witnessed? The
1658
01:47:07.100 --> 01:47:12.880
the the the vast majority of things that you come across with that can drive someone mad?
1659
01:47:13.875 --> 01:47:14.935
A little bit of both.
1660
01:47:15.554 --> 01:47:16.295
You know,
1661
01:47:17.554 --> 01:47:23.094
one of my earliest mentors told me a story about how he was invest investigating a haunting,
1662
01:47:24.100 --> 01:47:28.040
and, they were taking photographs. And this is back when it was just,
1663
01:47:29.140 --> 01:47:29.640
Polaroids.
1664
01:47:31.705 --> 01:47:33.565
And in real time, click.
1665
01:47:34.425 --> 01:47:34.925
Alright.
1666
01:47:35.304 --> 01:47:36.764
There we go. Right.
1667
01:47:37.784 --> 01:47:38.284
And
1668
01:47:39.440 --> 01:47:39.940
he
1669
01:47:41.040 --> 01:47:44.739
asked a question. No. That's what it was. It was writing on the pictures.
1670
01:47:45.600 --> 01:47:47.699
And one picture said, ask me a question.
1671
01:47:49.405 --> 01:47:49.905
And
1672
01:47:51.324 --> 01:47:52.545
they said, okay.
1673
01:47:54.525 --> 01:47:59.480
Do you know do you know English? That's what it was. How much of English do you know?
1674
01:48:01.620 --> 01:48:10.554
Because yeah. Because the original asked me a question was in old English, and they had to have a spider read. I was like, okay. They yeah. So, anyways, it's okay. Do you know English? And I said, which kind?
1675
01:48:13.495 --> 01:48:13.995
Right?
1676
01:48:14.610 --> 01:48:17.410
And he said this is doctor Michael Lynch. And he said,
1677
01:48:19.090 --> 01:48:21.110
he said, do you know, like, modern English?
1678
01:48:21.730 --> 01:48:22.550
Hold on.
1679
01:48:24.305 --> 01:48:29.685
Then for 5 minutes, they're taking pictures. There's nothing on the camera. There's nothing on the pic the photo. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Finally,
1680
01:48:30.145 --> 01:48:30.645
yes.
1681
01:48:34.200 --> 01:48:34.700
And
1682
01:48:35.800 --> 01:48:38.460
he asked the phenomenal question. Okay. Like,
1683
01:48:39.320 --> 01:48:40.460
what do you do?
1684
01:48:41.325 --> 01:48:42.545
I'm here for you.
1685
01:48:43.325 --> 01:48:46.385
I've never actually shared this with anybody, man. Wow.
1686
01:48:46.925 --> 01:48:49.985
Yeah. What what do you do? I'm here for you. And
1687
01:48:50.520 --> 01:48:53.500
it was explained to him that it was like a call center,
1688
01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:57.820
that there was someone outside of our reality
1689
01:48:59.735 --> 01:49:00.795
that was monitoring
1690
01:49:01.335 --> 01:49:03.995
almost like on a person by person basis,
1691
01:49:05.014 --> 01:49:06.235
monitoring us.
1692
01:49:07.350 --> 01:49:14.889
This I mean, this gets back into some of the Collins elite research, which, by the way, wasn't exactly the evangelical model.
1693
01:49:16.735 --> 01:49:22.435
They believe that whatever these intelligences were, they were outside of space and time and that they were in the afterlife,
1694
01:49:24.080 --> 01:49:26.500
Which is not necessarily the Nephilim either.
1695
01:49:27.280 --> 01:49:39.575
Right. I mean, people don't realize that, brother. People come to ask me that. They'll email me, like, okay. It's not. It's not for definitely my pop up's at all pop up's at all. Like, the what they were con concerned with was that again,
1696
01:49:40.275 --> 01:49:41.495
there were puppeteers.
1697
01:49:42.590 --> 01:49:43.030
Mhmm.
1698
01:49:43.470 --> 01:49:44.210
Or orchestrating
1699
01:49:44.590 --> 01:49:46.770
events within our own lives,
1700
01:49:48.750 --> 01:49:51.410
leading us to believe in the illusion of control.
1701
01:49:52.625 --> 01:49:54.244
Some days, we would have that.
1702
01:49:54.545 --> 01:49:58.565
Right? Free will. I'm gonna go here, go eat breakfast, boom,
1703
01:49:59.025 --> 01:50:01.364
boom, boom. And then other days at will,
1704
01:50:02.300 --> 01:50:03.760
something would take place
1705
01:50:04.460 --> 01:50:05.680
that was designed,
1706
01:50:06.540 --> 01:50:07.040
employed
1707
01:50:07.340 --> 01:50:10.640
by those who are not outside of the room, but outside of the house.
1708
01:50:11.020 --> 01:50:11.520
Right.
1709
01:50:12.925 --> 01:50:15.505
It comes back a little bit to my, hypotherad
1710
01:50:18.205 --> 01:50:19.425
when it's not real,
1711
01:50:19.805 --> 01:50:20.865
well, a thought
1712
01:50:21.710 --> 01:50:23.970
that the ether is like
1713
01:50:25.710 --> 01:50:27.570
a consciousness and a database.
1714
01:50:28.430 --> 01:50:30.130
Yep. And I think there are some
1715
01:50:31.725 --> 01:50:40.304
you can choose to be good or evil. You you have the devil within you, and you have a godlike or an angellike within you. Mhmm. Right?
1716
01:50:41.360 --> 01:50:46.580
So I think when you ask the the the good question and you connect to the source
1717
01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:48.020
Yeah.
1718
01:50:49.224 --> 01:50:55.885
That that makes so much sense to me. Like, okay. But what's the source? Well, the source is the ether. When you speak it out,
1719
01:50:56.560 --> 01:50:57.380
where it's all vibrations,
1720
01:50:58.400 --> 01:50:58.900
frequencies.
1721
01:50:59.600 --> 01:51:01.940
But when you touch the right frequency,
1722
01:51:02.880 --> 01:51:03.540
you can
1723
01:51:04.105 --> 01:51:05.565
dig into that source
1724
01:51:06.345 --> 01:51:10.525
and get knowledge from it. Like, a lot of people do with manifesting. Right?
1725
01:51:11.280 --> 01:51:11.940
The intention.
1726
01:51:12.800 --> 01:51:15.460
They they get into the meditation. They even can,
1727
01:51:16.159 --> 01:51:20.835
astral project or or out of body experience, which I have myself.
1728
01:51:22.255 --> 01:51:28.389
Well, that was because I was almost dead, but, you know, it happened. So there were layers
1729
01:51:28.929 --> 01:51:29.429
within
1730
01:51:30.050 --> 01:51:32.869
my own reality and dimension
1731
01:51:34.045 --> 01:51:36.545
that I could touch based on. I was I was
1732
01:51:37.245 --> 01:51:37.885
jiggling be
1733
01:51:39.645 --> 01:51:40.465
I was jiggling
1734
01:51:41.950 --> 01:51:42.930
between them,
1735
01:51:43.390 --> 01:51:44.610
and I had a choice.
1736
01:51:45.630 --> 01:51:50.610
And only my mind, because my my my body wasn't working at all, physics,
1737
01:51:51.135 --> 01:51:52.755
Only my mind and spirituality
1738
01:51:53.135 --> 01:51:59.315
could connect to that was there. And, you know, I got I got a question just like,
1739
01:52:00.330 --> 01:52:02.190
do do you wanna get back? Yes.
1740
01:52:03.690 --> 01:52:05.710
Mhmm. And then I woke up
1741
01:52:06.330 --> 01:52:07.230
in an ambulance.
1742
01:52:08.330 --> 01:52:09.230
Oh, yeah.
1743
01:52:10.755 --> 01:52:13.575
Yeah. You know, you just kind of touched on something
1744
01:52:14.355 --> 01:52:14.855
here.
1745
01:52:17.020 --> 01:52:18.159
Within the ancient
1746
01:52:18.460 --> 01:52:18.960
worldview,
1747
01:52:20.780 --> 01:52:21.679
it was never
1748
01:52:22.139 --> 01:52:23.679
you know, you can't connect
1749
01:52:24.539 --> 01:52:25.440
with the beyond.
1750
01:52:26.695 --> 01:52:29.994
This goes back to the idea that reality itself was hijacked.
1751
01:52:31.175 --> 01:52:32.074
They're they're
1752
01:52:32.454 --> 01:52:33.675
they're kind of
1753
01:52:34.135 --> 01:52:34.635
evolved
1754
01:52:35.890 --> 01:52:37.270
a tradition of belief.
1755
01:52:38.130 --> 01:52:38.630
Whereas,
1756
01:52:39.090 --> 01:52:40.870
yes, yes, you can transcend
1757
01:52:41.970 --> 01:52:46.125
and gain insights into another world that would influence ours.
1758
01:52:47.065 --> 01:52:48.685
But somewhere in antiquity,
1759
01:52:49.065 --> 01:52:50.125
there arrived
1760
01:52:50.585 --> 01:52:51.565
another species.
1761
01:52:52.920 --> 01:52:55.900
Oh. And that species was outlawed.
1762
01:52:57.000 --> 01:52:58.780
If you do appeal
1763
01:52:59.320 --> 01:53:00.619
to the discarnate,
1764
01:53:02.625 --> 01:53:04.005
Don't appeal to them.
1765
01:53:04.704 --> 01:53:05.204
Why?
1766
01:53:05.585 --> 01:53:13.710
This is this again. Right? This bleeds that it's kind of, yeah, bleeds into the theory that, yes, we had reality then the invasion of it by something else that
1767
01:53:14.430 --> 01:53:15.970
this this gets back to
1768
01:53:17.065 --> 01:53:17.565
Crowley's
1769
01:53:17.945 --> 01:53:18.844
Crowley's work
1770
01:53:20.105 --> 01:53:20.605
where
1771
01:53:21.625 --> 01:53:23.165
he he was kind of bastardizing
1772
01:53:24.185 --> 01:53:26.510
a Brahmin the mage, Jewish mysticism,
1773
01:53:27.530 --> 01:53:28.030
and
1774
01:53:29.610 --> 01:53:30.110
deconstructing
1775
01:53:30.489 --> 01:53:31.309
and reconstructing
1776
01:53:31.929 --> 01:53:32.429
these
1777
01:53:32.969 --> 01:53:33.869
these incantations.
1778
01:53:35.755 --> 01:53:36.895
And in a way,
1779
01:53:37.675 --> 01:53:39.135
even if his guttural
1780
01:53:39.835 --> 01:53:40.335
invocations
1781
01:53:41.515 --> 01:53:42.335
were accurately
1782
01:53:43.035 --> 01:53:43.535
uttered,
1783
01:53:44.660 --> 01:53:46.040
the way the incantations
1784
01:53:46.420 --> 01:53:48.679
themselves were structured should have never
1785
01:53:49.060 --> 01:53:49.880
been successful.
1786
01:53:52.355 --> 01:53:53.895
This is what keeps me up at night.
1787
01:53:54.435 --> 01:53:54.935
And
1788
01:53:55.315 --> 01:53:56.355
because they were
1789
01:54:00.260 --> 01:54:00.760
Okay?
1790
01:54:01.300 --> 01:54:05.080
It's it's the equivalent of giving a child a a phone
1791
01:54:06.100 --> 01:54:08.760
and saying, here's the phone number to me.
1792
01:54:09.855 --> 01:54:10.355
Right?
1793
01:54:10.815 --> 01:54:13.555
And then beep beep beep. They mess it all up.
1794
01:54:14.095 --> 01:54:16.435
Right. Someone else answers the phone.
1795
01:54:17.840 --> 01:54:18.980
Hi. I'm Nathaniel.
1796
01:54:20.400 --> 01:54:28.165
And now you have the courting of the human condition to where whatever that is on the other end of the line wants to become incarnate.
1797
01:54:32.145 --> 01:54:33.685
It should not have worked.
1798
01:54:35.610 --> 01:54:39.710
It should not have worked. What? And yet something out there noticed
1799
01:54:40.730 --> 01:54:42.590
noticed the light in the distance.
1800
01:54:43.895 --> 01:54:46.475
Right. Like a receiver, antenna, medium,
1801
01:54:47.015 --> 01:54:47.835
all this
1802
01:54:49.095 --> 01:54:50.715
And a moth to the flame.
1803
01:54:52.880 --> 01:54:54.980
Here they are. What are they?
1804
01:54:55.600 --> 01:55:00.100
It's and this is what blows my mind. Yeah. Okay. Sure. You can do a, b, and c,
1805
01:55:00.615 --> 01:55:04.315
But there's something out there that answered the call.
1806
01:55:05.655 --> 01:55:07.835
And as far as I can tell,
1807
01:55:08.615 --> 01:55:09.435
it's everything.
1808
01:55:10.880 --> 01:55:12.740
Because it's everything, it's nothing.
1809
01:55:13.840 --> 01:55:15.940
Right. And nothing is everything.
1810
01:55:17.175 --> 01:55:21.595
We don't know what it is. No. That's its intention. It's built in, baked into
1811
01:55:22.855 --> 01:55:24.075
their their incarnation.
1812
01:55:24.849 --> 01:55:28.230
Man, I hope this made sense. We talked about a lot of stuff.
1813
01:55:28.770 --> 01:55:31.190
Yes. Yes. Oh, man.
1814
01:55:31.905 --> 01:55:36.725
Nathaniel, it was a great episode again. We we touched base on so many things.
1815
01:55:37.185 --> 01:55:44.300
But the thing is, we went on. I like it when we feed each other the the new things, you know. This wasn't an interview, brother. This was,
1816
01:55:45.099 --> 01:56:02.409
this is us drinking a beer over chicken wings. That's it. This this that that that's this is our production. That's how it should be, I think. Because otherwise Right. You know, when you when you touch base on your newest research, which which you did now a a few times A little bit. A little bit. Exactly.
1817
01:56:02.869 --> 01:56:07.025
But when you do that, you you, when you jump on another podcast,
1818
01:56:07.645 --> 01:56:09.105
they all have the same
1819
01:56:09.565 --> 01:56:12.065
Nathaniel Gilles. But now you,
1820
01:56:12.445 --> 01:56:14.620
you know, I hope that the listeners
1821
01:56:15.880 --> 01:56:20.380
agree with me that, oh, wow. You know? It's not only this little,
1822
01:56:21.625 --> 01:56:25.725
spectrum of what he believes or what he researched, but it goes so
1823
01:56:26.585 --> 01:56:31.260
beyond everything, and and you have to connect all the dots to come to a conclusion
1824
01:56:31.720 --> 01:56:37.900
of your own possible reality. Yeah. And that's what I like. You know? That's what I like. And that's,
1825
01:56:38.285 --> 01:56:40.785
yeah, these are deep thoughts. These are
1826
01:56:41.965 --> 01:56:43.185
At least I'm troubled.
1827
01:56:43.804 --> 01:57:00.165
Yeah. Trouble. We could talk about the weather, but you don't know. Oh, I know. It's boring. Modeled also. You know? It is all programmed nowadays also. So, you know I've heard that. I've heard that, brother. What's not? Yeah. It's it's getting stranger by the second. And I think that our government knows that,
1828
01:57:00.945 --> 01:57:04.850
you know, that there are measures of control the phenomenon has over us
1829
01:57:05.730 --> 01:57:06.630
that they
1830
01:57:07.410 --> 01:57:08.790
are they're not conditional.
1831
01:57:09.890 --> 01:57:11.490
You know? Mhmm. They're they're
1832
01:57:12.395 --> 01:57:14.895
they they just occur. They happen,
1833
01:57:15.515 --> 01:57:16.015
and
1834
01:57:16.555 --> 01:57:17.295
they're nonnegotiable.
1835
01:57:18.875 --> 01:57:19.695
That is
1836
01:57:20.040 --> 01:57:22.460
would that would destroy entire worldviews.
1837
01:57:24.360 --> 01:57:32.215
Oh, yeah. And and I think that's what I know people poo poo on Luis Elizondo, but I think that's what he means when he says that it would be somber.
1838
01:57:33.155 --> 01:57:33.655
Because
1839
01:57:34.690 --> 01:57:36.710
if we are not in fact in a simulation,
1840
01:57:37.730 --> 01:57:38.230
then
1841
01:57:38.770 --> 01:57:41.429
we'll go down to a smaller degree here,
1842
01:57:42.235 --> 01:57:44.335
then that would mean that there are entire
1843
01:57:44.715 --> 01:57:45.695
life events
1844
01:57:46.715 --> 01:57:47.215
or
1845
01:57:47.675 --> 01:57:48.895
cognitive interfaces
1846
01:57:49.275 --> 01:57:50.095
that are
1847
01:57:51.179 --> 01:57:56.000
a a simulation in and of themselves, and we don't realize it. Right? My friend.
1848
01:57:56.699 --> 01:58:00.320
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why'd you show up last night? That wasn't me.
1849
01:58:01.005 --> 01:58:03.185
Who was that? Or even the men in black.
1850
01:58:03.725 --> 01:58:05.665
Right? Okay. I wanna I'm gonna
1851
01:58:06.125 --> 01:58:10.305
check your, your gauges and and all that. Let me go downstairs and
1852
01:58:11.140 --> 01:58:12.120
now they disappear.
1853
01:58:12.820 --> 01:58:13.320
Right.
1854
01:58:14.500 --> 01:58:18.900
So yeah. But anyways, brother, I I hope I made sense. I know I,
1855
01:58:20.244 --> 01:58:23.704
since I had my traumatic brain injury a few years ago, my words
1856
01:58:26.244 --> 01:58:36.680
aren't exactly in order. And I hate that because I'm trying to work on it because my brain is, like, really fast and so my mouth has to catch up in my brain. And sometimes it doesn't work out well.
1857
01:58:37.295 --> 01:58:41.235
Oh, man. It's it's the same with me when I listen back to my podcast.
1858
01:58:42.655 --> 01:58:50.820
I was just in the beginning of podcasting and doing it in another language because I'm Dutch. Right? Mhmm. So I try to speak English.
1859
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But when I listen back, just like, oh my
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god. Makes no sense. Dabbling over my words. But you know what it is? It is what it is. And I think that, we put out a great message, a great Yeah. Stuff to think about for the people at home that listening to this podcast.
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And, thank you for hopping on again. I I really appreciate it, man. I mean, we definitely gonna do a part 3.
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Yeah. I would like that. It's where I can get deeper into necronetics.
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I am currently now I'm structuring new vocabulary.
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Right.
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And, It takes some time to to, you know, that you're gonna get into that, subject. Probably, you're gonna touch on some fallen angels too. Maybe that's a good one too. You know? Fallen angels and then, necromatiks.
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Why not? It's gonna be awesome, brother. I appreciate it, man. You're awesome. Thank you for working with me, buddy. Thank you. Yeah. I I appreciate you. And I'm gonna put it in the show links. I got a new software so it will be all automatically.
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Well, a little bit more better than it was before working on a little bit more. Professionality.
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Thank you for hopping on, brother. Have a great time.
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And for all the listeners,
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no matter where you are on this beautiful plain planet,
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have a beautiful morning, a beautiful day, or beautiful evening.
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And he couldn't fulfill my dreams.
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I've been running for all my life
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with a devil on my heels.
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He wasn't always kind,
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and he couldn't fulfill my dreams.
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He's a pain in the ass.
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He's black as
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night. God
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show me light.
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He's
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kind, and he couldn't fulfill my dreams.
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He's a pain in the ass.
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I'm black as a