What Are We Training For? Performance, Longevity & Finding Joy in the Process Ep 162

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Hey friends, Coach Chris here.
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This episode is a little different because instead of me being the interviewer, I'm on the other side of the mic.
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And it was so fun.
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Dr.
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Sarah Gordon invited me onto her PhD Journey Unplugged podcast for a conversation that started with coaching and endurance sports, because that's how we originally met after all, but quickly became something much bigger.
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What are we actually training for?
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We talked about performance, longevity, finding joy in the process, and why your training needs to work for you and the life you want to live.
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I'm sharing our conversation with you, and when you're finished, be sure to head over to the PhD Journey Unplugged.
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It is an amazing podcast.
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She has really done a phenomenal job, and she has awesome guests, so you'll have to check them out.
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And then also listen to the episode that Sarah did on our show, episode number 155, The Science of Lasting Motivation.
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All right, here's my conversation with Dr.
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Sarah Gordon.
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Hey everybody, welcome to the PHD Journey Unplug podcast.
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We are at episode 74 today.
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And as you can see, I'm not by myself today.
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I have a guest.
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Okay, so I have with me Chris Newport.
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Welcome, Chris.
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Hi.
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Chris.
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Thank you.
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Chris is the founder of the Endurance Edge.
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And um we're gonna talk about what that means.
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Oh yeah.
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Um, and get to know you on the show today.
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And we're gonna focus on this question of what are we training for?
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Totally.
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I love that.
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Training to flourish the journey of healthy aging.
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So we're gonna dive into what that all means.
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Um I always find when I introduce my guests, you you know, you're very humble in the accomplishments that you've achieved in your life.
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I yeah, I intentionally love to invite people on on the show who demonstrate just really living our best lives and helping other people achieve that as well.
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And so um, and that's why I've had you on the show today.
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So thank you for joining me.
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Yeah, excited to be here.
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Thanks for having me.
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Okay, so Chris is located in North Carolina, and you're a registered dietitian nutritionist, exercise physiologist, endurance coach, certified sports nutritionist, and he spent more than 25 years helping athletes and active adults better understand the relationship between nutrition, recovery, performance, and long-term health.
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And I don't even remember how we originally connected, but I think you were I think you were emailing because you were um maybe you were looking for Iron Man female Iron Man athletes or something like that.
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I think it was maybe to the like the USA Traff on coaches.
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I remember it being somewhere in there.
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Yeah, somewhere with my dissertation research.
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Mm-hmm.
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Could have been and I'm just gonna say this right now because I was a little bit intimidated by you.
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Really?
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A little bit because let me tell you why.
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Yeah, I just launched my podcast, and and when you and a lot of people were responding, and when you responded, you know, at first I was thinking, oh, a coach, you know, endurance athlete yourself and performance coach.
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And then I started to kind of, you know, I always like to research my guests a bit, and I was like, wow, you have an established podcast, you have a successful established podcast.
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And I'm a newbie.
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And I thought, oh gosh.
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And I think our first conversation, you you were telling me all kinds of stuff, and yeah, I think I think I overwhelmed you a little bit.
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Oh, you know, you know, to host on this thing.
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It did it, and you're like, oh my gosh, I think I think I'm like what it's about.
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But you know what?
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It's like the it's no different than if I were getting into iron, if I were getting into trathlon and you're like, oh yeah, I've done 13 irons, I would be like, oh my gosh, you're like my idol.
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I know, let me learn from you.
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But but bridging that gap, like it's totally possible, but it's so hard to um, it's so hard to like make that leap.
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You know, and sometimes it just takes little by little by little, and then suddenly you're you're kind of like there, and you're like, wait, I did, I did that, you know, and sort of looking back and enjoying the view a little bit, which you know, we kind of suck at.
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Do you know I just said that in episode 73?
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I came back.
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I did.
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I came back from overseas.
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I went to this conference over there, and I and everything's always it's been about achievement.
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It's been a ch about achievement for a very long time for me.
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And I really came back and said, okay, how do you appreciate the view?
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Totally.
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Right.
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So it's interesting you just said that.
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It's exactly the space I'm in right now.
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Yeah.
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It's so uh and you know, as you were kind of saying some of those things, I'm like, oh, you're you know, so accomplished or whatever.
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And part of me, um I pushed hard for a long time, and then sometimes I had to be like, to what end?
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You know, like, do I need another certification to prove myself?
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And you know, we could go down many a rabbit hole as it relates to that, but like, what's wrong with just being a dietitian, or what's wrong with just being a coach, or what's you know, like we can own our space no matter what we are labeled as or what degrees we have, you can still you have you still have something to give.
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So you did not listen to episode 73.
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I clearly need to listen to episode 73.
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So I don't even know how this happens.
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It's like you just said exactly what I just said I learned.
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Okay, we're linking to episode 73 then for me.
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And that's not even really what we're gonna talk about today, but but it in a way I think it all relates it all relates, like of you know, my view on health is so different now than it was when I knew that I wanted to become a coach at age 15 or when I did my first triathlon at age oh 22, maybe.
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Um, you know, life that my headspace was very different.
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Life was very different.
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We, you know, obviously didn't have the advancements that we have in AI and some of these other technologies and whatnot, but um, I'm finding more and more that man, take your freaking foot off the gas pedal, like and just like roll the window down.
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And you know, you can still do hard things and you can still uh but you know, relishing it in a little bit.
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And I don't know whether that tends to be, and you would probably know more than I would, tends to be more of a female thing, especially in this sport or you know, certainly as a female entrepreneur.
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I have used for many years my name is Chris to my advantage, because via email, people don't know whether I'm a male or female.
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And oftentimes the assumption is I'm a male.
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Interesting.
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And then when they get me on the phone, they're like, oh, I didn't, you know, it's almost like, you know, my perception of you is now instantly changing because anyway, uh, all that to say is that um, you know, we're all in the right place at the right time, giving getting the right lessons.
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And it's nice to enjoy the view.
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That's amazing to start this way.
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And as you if you know, when if as you're if you're listening, when you listen to this episode, you'll notice I was a bit nervous.
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And now I just feel like you just brought this like calming presence and authenticity to this conversation.
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So thank you for that.
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I want to ask you, um, and let me say I I think this cross is male, female, you know, however you identify, uh it's a human experience.
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I think um David Brooks wrote a really good book uh several years ago.
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I can't remember the exact name of it, but basically the concept is that there's these different mountains that you climb.
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We climb the achievement mountain, you know, the more degrees, more certifications, more this, more that.
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And then we do, we get to those summits and we realize like the view doesn't necessarily look the way we anticipated it to look.
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And then we start to climb these different mountains that just have a little bit more depth, a little bit more meaning, a little bit more how do we give back to other people, how do we cultivate um communities that you know help each other thrive.
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And um, it's just a it's a different way to live life, like you're saying.
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And that episode 73 was all about me coming back from Switzerland and watching people.
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Now remember, I'm observing it as a tourist, basically.
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So who really knows the conditions of in people's stories of their lives?
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But what I saw was a lot of people enjoying the day, not necessarily the weekend.
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I was walking, you know, during the week too and reading a book and laughing and taking time out.
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And it was really nice.
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It was really nice to see.
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And I I I think that as a performance coach and training, we all train like to train hard for for goals.
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This is an important conversation to have about how to also give yourself the grace of time to breathe and to reflect and to grow that way too.
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Yeah, definitely.
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And it's uh it's not easy to be looking at others and assuming that you're not good enough because they're doing more.
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But that's not always the case, you know, and um, you know, we'd get this, we get more glimpses with like social media, I feel like, but only like a part of the glimpse as to what is truly going on with them.
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Um, and then reflecting back on our own experiences of like, oh, I'm not doing enough, or I could just be better, or my least favorite is when somebody comes up, like in a race situation.
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Let's say somebody passes me and they're like, Oh, you know, the uh on your left, and they come by a great day, and you know, I'm not here to race, I'm just here to have fun.
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I'm like, you can keep your mouth shut now.
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You know, like it's almost like they give themselves this excuse to be like, Well, I'm I'm just not if I just in my head don't think that I'm trying hard, then maybe it's gonna be okay.
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But at the end of the day, we're all different.
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Yes, and that is really a space that I have truly um stepped into is helping people understand their fabulous uniqueness and what that means for their training, for their nutrition, for their recovery, and helping them get out of this, I'm not doing enough, or I'm not doing it right, to I'm doing it the way my body needs.
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And that's a very different story or mindset, however you want to spin that.
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So that's my space at the moment.
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I think that's fantastic.
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I think that we I always say we're more alike than we're different, but even in that statement, there's a lot of individuality that physiologically, you're an exercise physiologist, just physiologically.
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I just read something on social media this morning that says, you know, let's be honest, the people who are the champions in the world, they had some genetic predisposition to get there.
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They absolutely did, right?
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They have some physiology that you know they were gifted to have.
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You know, it takes a lot of hard work and it takes a lot of other things, but you know, I think recognizing that um, you know, we all have that individuality and then capitalizing on that in different ways.
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Yeah.
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So we're I love that we just jumped right into kind of like we're in like the same space.
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Okay, let's back up just a little bit.
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I want our audience to to know really who you are, right?
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And how you you got here today.
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So let's start.
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You said at 15, you knew you wanted to be a coach.
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Yeah.
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So what did that look like?
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Were you an athlete then?
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Oh, yeah.
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I was I was like, you know, my bless her heart, my poor sister who's four years older than I am.
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Remember, my dad was teaching her how to swing a bat, and uh she was probably eight, and you know, she was getting real frustrated.
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She's throwing the thing down, she's sitting on the card, like, ah, I can't do it.
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And I'm like, hand me the bat, let's go.
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So uh it was a great picture of me just, you know, standing there in my little goofy, you know, shorts and like, let's go.
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Um so I I and I, you know, also like skiing.
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They would, I mean, like the kid that like makes your heart skip a beat because you're like, oh my god, they're gonna die.
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That was you.
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That was me.
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Like, just like, you know, just like I'm not anymore.
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But um, I think just from the get-go, it was just like, let's hang from a tree, let's go down this mountain.
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Like, there wasn't uh as much fear, as certainly as there is now.
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But um, you know, I was just kind of willing to jump in and willing to do it, and very active and love sports.
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And by the time I got to high school, I had this coach who was um very stoic.
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She would just have this like straight face on all the time, and you it was so hard to read her, and she would always play favorites and she would always like just destroy her starters, like she would put her starters in, and then she would just leave them in, and nobody off the bench got to play.
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Um, and I remember being, so I guess 15 would have made me probably ninth or tenth grade.
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And I remember being like, put me in.
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Like, I just want to play.
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Like, let's let's go.
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And um, and that's when I had this sort of like aha moment of like everybody deserves to play.
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Everybody deserves.
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No, but the role model of not what not to be like, but certainly uh having that experience, I I wouldn't I wouldn't be here having not having that experience, you know.
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Uh you know, of like, okay, um, if I if in practice I just do a little bit better, maybe she'll play me.
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No, she wouldn't.
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Like it had nothing, you know, you just kind of like keep like, well, maybe if I do this, they'll see me more.
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And so having that experience young enough to be like, um, to just know that it it was it wasn't me.
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You know, it was the her being set in her ways and you know not being open to different um of different opportunities to to coach people in a different way or teaching to the the just giving people a chance.
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Um can I interject one quick thought before we on that?
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Yeah.
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So self-determination theory has this continuum of like from a motivation to extrinsic motivation to intrinsic motivation.
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So the goal is to move to more intrinsic motivation where we take autonomous actions in our life to move our life in the directions that is the most deeply fulfilling and meaningful.
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So here's an this is a great example.
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And I'm calling this now.
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I've come home from my trip.
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I had this opportunity to learn from researchers and practitioners across the globe.
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I am now calling this my living laboratory.
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Yes.
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Okay, so good.
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Yes.
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What you just said is proof that here's this example that you're sitting there, you want to do this.
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Right?
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And something external to you is telling you you can't do it.
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Or they're they're sorting that opportunity for you.
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Yeah, right.
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They're shutting it down.
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And here you are sitting there in your mind thinking, but I want to do this.
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And that's where it started.
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And you took all these actions, and I'm I'm so excited to hear where it came, you know, where it went from that.
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Yeah.
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You took all these actions to then put in life a path that is deeply fulfilling to you.
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Because I know you love your work.
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I know where you're at now.
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And I yeah, I think that's such a beautiful example of what this whole theoretical framework about human flourishing, about thriving is all about is taking yourself out of these external situations and taking the actions to move your life forward to find purpose and meaning in your life.
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So, so I love that.
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So thank you for starting there.
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Okay, welcome.
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Yeah, let's move on.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, that that just that I just knew that I I have a I can say this now without feeling like you know, egotistical or anything, but I have a gift of seeing something that people don't see in themselves.
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Okay, I love that.
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Trying to help them bridge the gap from part A to part B.
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And if they come even, if they come to me with even this iota of like, this is really scary, and I think I can, then I'm like, I know you can, and I'll I'll bring you there.
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Like if you trust the process and you trust yourself, trust yourself, then it can happen.
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So I think that that is what I learned through that 15-year-old brain.
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And then that turned into, you know, what do I want this to look like?
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So, you know, it was a it was a struggle going to to college because I was like, okay, well, maybe it's athletic training.
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So I started at Purdue University, and the great part about that program, great athletic training program, they literally put you in the training room from day one.
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And I was like, oh no, this isn't it.
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Okay.
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You know, I was like, I don't want to be taping people's ankles and you know, making ice bags and um and giving them ice baths and all that kind of stuff.
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I was like, hmm, maybe I want to uh become a physician.
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Um, you know, of course, then that's the get a good job, Christina.
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You gotta, you know, make good money, you know.
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So, like, you know, you have all those competing voices in your head.
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So that I thought maybe that's what I want to do.
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So I ended up transferring to the University of Virginia.
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And um luckily I got there and they had this great combination of a personal training program.
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So I was like, yes, fitness.
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I love fitness and you know, helping people um develop their bodies and minds in a different way.
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Um, in conjunction with, I was a peer health educator.
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So I was like, ooh, I also like teaching people about stuff.
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So that ended up becoming um, you know, turning into a job in the fitness industry and then eventually going back to school for nutrition.
00:20:05.250 --> 00:20:07.250
So that was a great way.
00:20:07.330 --> 00:20:14.050
Um, and nutrition exercise fit is kind of that that combo um of how can we put all the pieces together?
00:20:14.210 --> 00:20:19.009
Because fitness in its silo is uh it's just really hard to be in a silo.
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Like there's so many other pieces, you know, there's mental performance, there's nutrition, there's recovery, there's like so many other pieces.
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Motivation.
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There's motivation.
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Yes, motivation for sure.
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Motivational.
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So putting it, and and you know, uh again, being the person who's like, I'll just get another certification.
00:20:35.970 --> 00:20:43.170
I'm like, no, at some point, you uh collaboration is one of our core or core values in the in the company.
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And uh at some point I figured out, like, oh, I can't do it all.
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I need other people to help me.
00:20:49.330 --> 00:21:01.009
Um, so that's kind of part of what we do as the company is sort of we're the team behind you of doing all these amazing things.
00:21:01.570 --> 00:21:21.170
And collaboration is key because um we are so many different brains can help somebody move forward so much more like like quantum leap than just you know, hey Google, how do I do a transition faster?
00:21:21.250 --> 00:21:24.610
Or, you know, like what should I eat to lower my cholesterol?
00:21:24.850 --> 00:21:28.930
Like, oh gosh, like both of those questions make my skin crawl.
00:21:29.970 --> 00:21:37.170
Well, so when when so the name of your your business is the the um performance edge.
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The endurance edge.
00:21:38.530 --> 00:21:39.970
Sorry, the endurance edge.
00:21:40.210 --> 00:21:40.769
Yep.
00:21:41.090 --> 00:21:45.730
When did that when did you find when did that when did you create that?
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Come about?
00:21:46.610 --> 00:21:49.490
Yes, that was 2015.
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Okay.
00:21:50.850 --> 00:21:56.130
Um so and the tagline is you are edge to better performance and health.
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And that was uh me finally getting out of my living in a silo of being of doing my coaching on my own and doing nutrition on my own and being like, I need a team.
00:22:07.490 --> 00:22:16.130
I want to have other people who are smarter than I am and are more skilled in various areas that I'm not skilled in.
00:22:16.290 --> 00:22:16.690
Mm-hmm.
00:22:17.170 --> 00:22:19.970
And um put all of our groups together.
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How many people are on your team?
00:22:22.690 --> 00:22:24.290
We have eight.
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Eight.
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Okay.
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I hope I got that headcut right.
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Yes.
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And how many um individuals do you think you have trained over the years?
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Oh gosh.
00:22:40.210 --> 00:22:44.290
I mean, between we've we've had several groups come in.
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If you combine it with nutrition, I mean we're probably getting up into the I was just opening our sweat testing app.
00:22:51.490 --> 00:22:53.410
Like we've got 500 people there.
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Um we, I mean, probably a thousand at least.
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Thousands.
00:23:00.050 --> 00:23:03.330
So your reach is very wide, and it's and you've been involved for a long time.
00:23:03.570 --> 00:23:08.370
I'm just trying to sh, you know, demonstrate to our audience that you you really know what you're talking about.
00:23:08.690 --> 00:23:09.490
No, thanks.
00:23:09.570 --> 00:23:09.810
Yeah.
00:23:09.970 --> 00:23:12.050
I mean, you know, it's all it's all a process.
00:23:12.130 --> 00:23:15.650
I mean, sometimes you're like, oh, well, that was wrong, and I wish I did that differently.
00:23:15.810 --> 00:23:19.490
But like, for sure.
00:23:19.650 --> 00:23:26.530
So so the people that you've trained over the years, and I'll tell you where I'm kind of taking this, but I just want to ask you the questions to learn more about you.
00:23:26.769 --> 00:23:33.810
How many showed up uh trained and ready, and how many started as beginners, or you've seen it all, I bet.
00:23:34.050 --> 00:23:34.850
Oh yeah.
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Uh both.
00:23:37.410 --> 00:23:54.769
I mean, yeah, like um like today, uh, the guy who I had a swim lesson with, he is like, he, you know, I learned how to swim when I was like probably five, but you know, like I never laps swam until April.
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And so then I'm going, oh gosh, what's this gonna look like?
00:23:57.890 --> 00:24:08.450
And he's just one of those super fast learners um who has just great kinesthetic awareness and responds to feedback very easily.
00:24:08.610 --> 00:24:15.970
Now I've had people in similar situations, uh, it's always interesting where they come from, like how they get into it.
00:24:16.210 --> 00:24:21.490
Um, we've had people who are like, oh yeah, you know, I heard David Goggin's podcast and I'm gonna do Iron Man.
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Like, okay.
00:24:22.610 --> 00:24:23.810
Have you ever done a travel on?
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They're like, no.
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Like, okay, we're going, you're shooting for the stars, cool.
00:24:27.890 --> 00:24:38.530
And then they get in the pool and show up with like their kids' goggles and like, you know, a pair of just like lounge board shorts, and which is fine.
00:24:38.610 --> 00:24:39.570
Where would you want to wear?
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It's all good.
00:24:41.170 --> 00:24:46.610
Start where you got to start, but like made it halfway down the pool and stood up and was like, that's all I got.
00:24:46.769 --> 00:24:51.570
I was like, okay, we have a little bit to go for 2.4 miles.
00:24:52.050 --> 00:25:04.130
So um so yeah, but I I've seen quite a vast array of um, you know, gosh, we had one woman, I love her story.
00:25:04.370 --> 00:25:12.930
She came in and uh, I mean, we literally had on the had her on the edge of the pool, and all she did was just blow bubbles, come up, blow bubbles, come up, blow bubbles, come up.
00:25:13.090 --> 00:25:17.570
And, you know, we got her through a traffon, but that's how she started.
00:25:17.890 --> 00:25:21.170
So everyone comes from a different place.
00:25:22.130 --> 00:25:30.769
Um, some super new and some who have gone down the road a little bit, maybe they fail a little bit and they're like, I know I got more in the tank, then train me.
00:25:30.850 --> 00:25:36.050
So it's it's a really cool combination of a little bit of everything except pros.
00:25:36.130 --> 00:25:37.170
We don't work with pros.
00:25:38.210 --> 00:25:40.290
So so here's my question.
00:25:41.650 --> 00:25:51.170
With all of that, and just curious because I, you know, I'm all about um exercise motivation and obviously now self-determination theory.
00:25:52.210 --> 00:25:57.730
At what point when you train something and can you see it, it becomes their own?
00:25:57.810 --> 00:25:59.250
Yeah, because you're the guide.
00:25:59.890 --> 00:26:13.090
Yeah, but ultimately, and I I always love to say like the coach can give you the whole the structure, yep, but the discipline and has to come from within, and then the desire and the purpose still has to come from within.
00:26:13.330 --> 00:26:16.690
So do you see that kind of transform in that process?
00:26:17.330 --> 00:26:19.650
Yes, and everybody is so unique.
00:26:20.610 --> 00:26:37.570
Um I saw that in a swimmer yesterday, and uh swimming is just fresh on my brain because we did we, it's so much easier to have you're like contained in the pool, you know, or even in the open water.
00:26:37.730 --> 00:26:49.650
Like it's just so much easier to have eyes on on someone versus like you know, if you go out for a ride, people just you know, they they scatter based on you know what how fast they're going, etc.
00:26:50.130 --> 00:26:57.250
Um but yeah, just watching people who are like, man, I remember when you started.
00:26:57.410 --> 00:27:30.610
And I oftentimes, even though if they're not coming in for a specific swim analysis, I will videotape them the very first time I see them because then I save that for three, four, six, twelve, eighteen months down the road when they're like, here I am doing uh half Iron Man or here I am uh swimming 1500 meters, and like they're they just transform, they're just different athletes, and they do eventually start to take it on themselves.
00:27:30.769 --> 00:27:32.050
And cool, right?
00:27:32.290 --> 00:27:38.050
Yeah, it's so cool, and that I mean that's why I do it for the goalies that you study.
00:27:38.290 --> 00:27:39.890
Yeah, I mean it's ultimately the goal.
00:27:39.970 --> 00:27:51.250
It's like it's like when you learn to ride a bike and somebody's holding on that bike, but eventually you're riding the bike, you know, as a kid, you're learning the confidence to do it on your own.
00:27:51.890 --> 00:28:09.170
And that's the cool part about coaching is that it's an evolution, it may be more teaching or guiding or instructional or skill-based at the front end, but then it transitions to something totally different.
00:28:09.650 --> 00:28:26.690
And I love that evolution of you know, from start through the whole process of what they what they accomplish next and where they go next and how your role changes.
00:28:26.850 --> 00:28:40.210
In fact, I just finished working with it's probably been maybe six or eight months with an athlete who, you know, it was like time for hey, they're just really struggling with particular injury that he couldn't quite getting over, get over.
00:28:40.530 --> 00:28:52.370
And when I could tell it was like time to break up, and I'm like, listen, you're we're not, we're not really, and we haven't, and we haven't really gotten anywhere in so long.
00:28:52.610 --> 00:28:56.769
We have to address this, and that does not mean you are hurting my feelings.
00:28:56.930 --> 00:28:59.250
That's just part of the that's part of the journey.
00:29:00.210 --> 00:29:23.810
Is that for now we separate and maybe we end up coming together again and maybe we don't, and that's okay, and I I think that's just such a great evolution of somebody's journey in their sport or sports and the and the coaching process and and how that brings us to like a next level.
00:29:24.850 --> 00:29:25.570
It's so cool.
00:29:25.970 --> 00:29:28.450
I think that's a really healthy perspective.
00:29:28.530 --> 00:29:34.930
You know, I've haven't really done a podcast episode on like like coaching per se.
00:29:35.490 --> 00:29:41.410
It's usually the perspectives of coaches to teach us and educate us on how to live our best lives.
00:29:41.570 --> 00:30:06.450
But as is my in my perception of of a good coach, and if you go back to your 15-year-old experience as a coach, I think you have a really beautiful perspective on coaching because it's like you you're not holding on to somebody for your own personal satisfaction, you're giving them the skill set to then go out and grow however they choose, and I think that's really great.
00:30:06.610 --> 00:30:16.370
And I've heard many times from people who have used triathlon and the triathlon experience, especially the Ironman experience.
00:30:17.810 --> 00:30:20.850
And most people don't get to an Iron Man without a coach.
00:30:21.009 --> 00:30:21.970
I've learned that too.
00:30:22.210 --> 00:30:30.530
Most people have a coach to get them to the Iron Man because they they understand they understand it, they understand the science, and they're there to support you.
00:30:30.690 --> 00:30:33.650
But I've heard so many times how much it changes people.
00:30:33.970 --> 00:30:34.210
Yeah.
00:30:34.450 --> 00:30:36.210
It just changes their life completely.
00:30:36.450 --> 00:30:36.930
Yeah.
00:30:37.090 --> 00:30:37.490
Yeah.
00:30:37.730 --> 00:30:38.530
That's cool.
00:30:38.769 --> 00:30:39.730
It's such a leap.
00:30:39.810 --> 00:30:41.890
And I mean I see it with nutrition too.
00:30:41.970 --> 00:30:56.210
You know, at the front end, it might be like, okay, well, we gotta work on this much protein, and we gotta work on uh, you know, changing this habit, we gotta do this, and then over time it turns into more um accountability.
00:30:56.370 --> 00:31:00.610
And sometimes, sometimes I had some clients, we don't even talk about food.
00:31:01.970 --> 00:31:09.970
You know, it's just it's just something about like, I just need to know that you're there, and um I just need to be reminded.
00:31:10.130 --> 00:31:15.090
Like, I have a client that I've had for probably three years now, and we met yesterday, and her mother just passed away.
00:31:15.250 --> 00:31:18.850
And uh that's a that's a lot, it's a lot to take on.
00:31:19.009 --> 00:31:23.970
And we just had to be reminded about like have you hydrated today?
00:31:24.210 --> 00:31:25.970
Right, something just simple.
00:31:26.210 --> 00:31:26.610
Yeah.
00:31:26.769 --> 00:31:27.009
Yeah.
00:31:27.250 --> 00:31:29.090
So um you sick.
00:31:29.490 --> 00:31:33.490
Yeah, it's you know, we and nutrition, we call it nutrition through the life cycle.
00:31:33.730 --> 00:31:45.090
I mean, it's no different than your nutrition's gonna be different if you're training for Iron Man versus if you're injured, or if you're menopausal, or if you, you know, like, and that's okay.
00:31:45.170 --> 00:31:47.970
It also doesn't have to be drastic and crazy.
00:31:48.050 --> 00:31:56.850
Like you can keep it simple, but sometimes you just need somebody to remind you, or somebody to be there, like, oh, right, right.
00:31:57.090 --> 00:31:58.690
I don't have to overcomplicate this.
00:31:58.850 --> 00:32:01.090
I don't need to trust what social media is saying.
00:32:01.330 --> 00:32:06.610
I mean, the things that I get from people of what social media says, I'm just it's like giant face palm.
00:32:07.009 --> 00:32:10.850
I'm like, ah, it's just so terrible.
00:32:11.009 --> 00:32:12.530
Some of the messages that we're getting.
00:32:12.690 --> 00:32:22.530
It's just all these scare tactics and I I listened to um I this will totally derail our conversation.
00:32:22.610 --> 00:32:28.930
So I just want to say this, but then open it as a consider as a door to maybe another conversation we can have.
00:32:29.330 --> 00:32:35.970
But the whole I listened to this physician talk about GLP ones and it was a fabulous conversation.
00:32:36.130 --> 00:32:59.890
And and it's kind of what you're saying, like for a lot of people, the GLP one is a tool, it's a bridge from very deconditioned body, poor nutrition to a healthier weight to then put in habits and behaviors that support that new the weight loss and that new kind of healthy way of living your life.
00:33:00.210 --> 00:33:02.610
So you so it's the bridge to get you there.
00:33:02.769 --> 00:33:10.130
And I'm not gonna say whether I I think that's the right approach or not, because there's lots of tools out there, whatever tool you need to get you there.
00:33:10.370 --> 00:33:29.410
But the key is, like you're saying, is once you get there, it's put in place and change the behaviors to l to live a healthy life, to thrive, you know, from many different angles, not just being thin, but you know, mental health, physical health, relationships in your lives, all that kind of stuff.
00:33:29.650 --> 00:33:37.650
So I think that's interesting that you mentioned about and giving yourself some grace because understanding that things happen.
00:33:38.530 --> 00:33:41.009
Yeah, work happens, life happens.
00:33:41.650 --> 00:33:42.050
Yeah.
00:33:42.210 --> 00:33:54.769
I mean, I did a somewhat recent episode just on GLP ones, but um the beauty of the profession that I'm in with nutrition, at least, is that we have the time.
00:33:55.570 --> 00:34:22.369
The physician does not have the time that we can really dig into the habits and like the nuances of what they're eating, when they're eating, um, what's their motivation, how that waxes and wanes in terms of you know, like hunger versus, you know, obviously you're not hungry after you eat, um, and various behavior changes.
00:34:22.530 --> 00:34:31.090
And I mean, there's there's solid research that shows that folks who are specifically on a GLP1, if they work with a dietitian, they overall have better outcomes.
00:34:31.650 --> 00:34:33.570
I mean, what do they do with their outcomes?
00:34:33.889 --> 00:34:35.570
They just overall better outcomes.
00:34:35.650 --> 00:34:35.889
Oh, okay.
00:34:36.130 --> 00:34:42.450
Like they're losing more weight, losing more weight, um, getting better, you know, better um numbers.
00:34:42.610 --> 00:34:47.570
And then once they come off of it, they're better able to maintain it.
00:34:48.210 --> 00:34:48.610
Yeah.
00:34:48.849 --> 00:34:51.410
So um, I am not anti-GLP1.
00:34:51.570 --> 00:35:01.090
I know that this population tends to be very generally anti-medication, but um, you know, it's kind of like using fins when you're learning how to swim.
00:35:01.329 --> 00:35:02.050
Yeah, it's a tool.
00:35:02.130 --> 00:35:03.410
We could look at it as a tool.
00:35:03.970 --> 00:35:04.369
Yeah.
00:35:04.610 --> 00:35:13.490
And I see uh, you know, it where we're offices located within an aquatic center and the team that's in there, I mean, they have so many swimmers.
00:35:13.650 --> 00:35:16.769
Um, and they're what they're either the first or second team in the nation.
00:35:16.849 --> 00:35:19.010
They use fins all the freaking time.
00:35:19.329 --> 00:35:23.570
So, you know, it's like the right tool for the right job at the right time.
00:35:23.889 --> 00:35:24.369
Absolutely.
00:35:24.530 --> 00:35:29.010
And I think that um, and I would love to have that another conversation about because it's interesting.
00:35:29.170 --> 00:35:36.930
I think you need anytime you're considering a tool, you need to think about um why you're using it, right?
00:35:37.090 --> 00:35:47.010
And so, you know, if you're a uh ultra-endurance athlete trying to like shed a few pounds, like, you know, that might not be the best tool to use.
00:35:47.090 --> 00:35:59.650
But if you, you know, have diabetes and you know, you just you really feel like you can't get to even wanting to go to a gym or go to a pool to exercise, you know, maybe it is a good tool to use.
00:35:59.730 --> 00:36:04.849
So I think it's like and you've you've said this throughout our conversation, everything's very highly individualized.
00:36:05.250 --> 00:36:06.369
It's totally individualized.
00:36:06.769 --> 00:36:07.490
I think that's the key.
00:36:07.730 --> 00:36:11.490
It's just very individualized, whatever your guest journey you're on.
00:36:11.889 --> 00:36:12.530
Okay, yeah.
00:36:12.849 --> 00:36:14.610
So I love our conversation.
00:36:14.690 --> 00:36:32.130
We just literally just jumped in, but I I wanted to tell you that when I, you know, I was looking at your website and I always try to think about you know what can my guest bring a little bit different to the conversation beyond just talking about performance and nutrition.
00:36:32.210 --> 00:36:39.809
And and I love that you have something that you created called the longevity lab.
00:36:40.369 --> 00:36:40.690
Yeah.
00:36:40.930 --> 00:36:42.769
And that really piqued my interest.
00:36:43.250 --> 00:36:43.650
Yeah.
00:36:43.809 --> 00:36:52.690
Okay, and I would love for you to share with our uh audience what is the longevity lab, what's the philosophy behind it, and let's talk about that a bit.
00:36:53.090 --> 00:36:53.730
Yeah.
00:36:54.530 --> 00:37:05.889
So we have really, really smart uh and driven clients, and they always want like, you know, the best and latest and greatest.
00:37:05.970 --> 00:37:14.210
And let me try this and let me do this, and um, you know, the latest supplement on the market, or are they tracking the right data trends?
00:37:14.289 --> 00:37:19.970
And let's track that number because I saw that number on social media or on Strava or whatever.
00:37:20.289 --> 00:37:23.570
Um, so I saw the longevity lab.
00:37:23.650 --> 00:37:34.930
It originally started as more of like a nutrition coaching program of like how much protein do we need and how much hydration, like some of those types of things, but it has since evolved because we have the resources for it.
00:37:35.010 --> 00:38:45.570
You know, we've got a metabolic testing facility and we've got sports psychology and we've got um access to biomarkers, and it's like, why not put all these pieces together to hone somebody's path in that's more specific to them that they're not managing in 10 different places of like, um, you know, I get my labs done at Whoop, or I and then I also do this other testing over here, and then I track my sleep here, and it's just such a great way to pull everything together, optimize specifically for the endurance or for the for the individual that also includes genetic testing as one of the tools, so that they specifically see what is necessary for them and their goals, and what are the things that they need to track so that they can sit back and enjoy life and not feel like I mean, I get so many people who are they get uh the direct to consumer labs and they're like, what does all this mean?
00:38:45.730 --> 00:38:46.530
This number's off.
00:38:46.610 --> 00:38:47.570
Like, am I gonna die?
00:38:47.650 --> 00:38:49.329
I'm like, first of all, yes.
00:38:49.570 --> 00:38:53.170
Secondly, okay, do you guys like we're all gonna die?
00:38:53.410 --> 00:38:54.450
We're all gonna die.
00:38:54.610 --> 00:38:57.329
Okay, like very soon, right?
00:38:57.650 --> 00:38:59.809
So let's take that off the table.
00:39:00.130 --> 00:39:01.010
Take that off the table.
00:39:01.970 --> 00:39:05.090
Usually that like pops their eyes out, they're like, wait, I am gonna die.
00:39:05.250 --> 00:39:09.570
Let's yes, news flash, you're gonna die.
00:39:10.690 --> 00:39:19.650
But my goal, and I know that it's part of their intention too, is like we love this sport or we love being active.
00:39:19.809 --> 00:39:32.930
I don't care whether it's doing draathlon until you're 95 years old, or running or swimming, or playing shuffleboard, or pickleball, or tennis, or walking, or whatever it is that keeps you active.
00:39:33.650 --> 00:39:36.050
We want to keep life in our years.
00:39:36.369 --> 00:39:39.090
So, why does all this have to be so complicated?
00:39:39.250 --> 00:39:48.130
You know, of like, well, I'm trying this new supplement and that new supplement, and you know, I keep my labs over here and I don't know, you know, this number's off, but like, should I care about it?
00:39:48.210 --> 00:40:09.490
And it's an opportunity to have a healthcare provider actually disseminate it down to information that's relevant to you so that you know what to execute on and can again just go enjoy life and all that good stuff is running in the background, and then we run things again and see okay, have things changed.
00:40:09.650 --> 00:40:22.050
So it's an opportunity to keep track to track trends without getting overly obsessed with only caring about the right things that we need to care about, and then go have some fun.
00:40:22.210 --> 00:40:29.809
Like it's all information that helps us know what is the best path for ourselves.
00:40:29.970 --> 00:40:31.889
Like, do you need to be recovering more?
00:40:32.130 --> 00:40:35.170
Do you need to be eating more cruciferous vegetables?
00:40:35.410 --> 00:40:37.889
Do you need to be taking extra vitamin D?
00:40:38.210 --> 00:40:44.530
So many of those things were just like, well, I take this thing because I heard it on social media, or I take this thing because I think I'm supposed to take it.
00:40:44.610 --> 00:40:47.889
And, you know, this other book says I should, you know, it's like, no, none of that.
00:40:47.970 --> 00:40:49.090
No, no, no, no, no.
00:40:49.889 --> 00:40:59.889
Let's filter it down so that you know what you need to do for yourself so that you can live a long and healthy life without overthinking it.
00:41:00.210 --> 00:41:03.889
I feel like everybody should have an access to the longevity lab.
00:41:04.530 --> 00:41:09.809
We've made it, uh, I I think we've made it very accessible and very affordable.
00:41:09.889 --> 00:41:13.090
Because I've seen some other programs that are like$25,000 a year.
00:41:13.170 --> 00:41:16.769
It's almost like concierge medicine on medicine on like steroids.
00:41:16.930 --> 00:41:21.010
And I just don't think we necessarily need someone, uh, something like that.
00:41:21.170 --> 00:41:24.289
No, no shame on them if that's the route you want to go.
00:41:24.450 --> 00:41:41.090
But um in my mind, nutritionists are the heroes of the healthcare world that we're cheaper and we're also um so much deeper into behaviors, so that if and when you go to the doctor, the doctor's like, yeah, you're good, have a nice day.
00:41:41.329 --> 00:41:44.210
You know, or oh, you broke your leg, we can fix that.
00:41:44.369 --> 00:41:44.610
Cool.
00:41:44.769 --> 00:42:05.970
You know, so the the model of medicine is more reactive and more um disease-based, and we can be more proactive using metabolic testing, using these very specific biomarkers, understanding your genetics such that you again, you can just sit back and do your thing.
00:42:06.289 --> 00:42:10.769
If it feels like the future, um it uh it's amazing.
00:42:11.170 --> 00:42:24.849
Let me ask you right now, and I'll ask Vegan at the end, if somebody's interested in reaching out to you to find out more about just everything that you're about, the you know, your platform and the longevity lab, how do they do that?
00:42:25.250 --> 00:42:28.930
Yeah, I mean, the endurance edge is the best place to go.
00:42:29.170 --> 00:42:33.410
And that's where they can find out about our traffic coaching, our nutrition programs.
00:42:33.490 --> 00:42:36.849
And somebody might be like, okay, longevity lab sounds like kind of a lot.
00:42:37.090 --> 00:42:42.289
Um, the way that we have mitigated that process is we do a 30-minute quick start nutrition consult.
00:42:42.369 --> 00:42:49.329
I'm licensed in a ton of different states, so able to support people in uh, and I'm also very thorough.
00:42:49.410 --> 00:42:51.570
So they're like, you asked me a lot of questions.
00:42:51.650 --> 00:43:00.930
I'm like, I mean, you and I could sit together and I could ask you those questions, or you could answer them beforehand, pay me less and get right to the point.
00:43:01.250 --> 00:43:18.930
Um, and that's a that's a great like uh, you know, jumping point of okay, is longevity lab for me, or do I just need to like clean some stuff up over here um or get some tests, or you know, I get a lot of gut health stuff.
00:43:19.090 --> 00:43:24.450
I mean, there's a lot of different things that, and again, we we need our own unique path.
00:43:24.610 --> 00:43:32.930
Um, and then we have metabolic and sweat testing, and so uh lots of different avenues to work with us.
00:43:33.010 --> 00:43:34.769
Oh, and we put on a trathlon, you know.
00:43:34.849 --> 00:43:37.570
Sometimes I I was gonna ask you about that too, the trethlon.
00:43:37.650 --> 00:43:40.610
Yeah, say that to them, but just real quick.
00:43:40.769 --> 00:43:43.970
Um, so it's the enduranceedge.com.
00:43:44.610 --> 00:43:45.889
Enduranceedge.com.
00:43:45.970 --> 00:43:50.130
And if they want to learn more about longevity specifically, it's enduranceedge.com forward slash longevity.
00:43:50.369 --> 00:43:51.250
So we keep it simple.
00:43:51.490 --> 00:43:53.889
Yeah, Chris Newport, just to say your name again.
00:43:53.970 --> 00:43:57.010
If you want to Google Chris Newport, endurance edge.
00:43:57.410 --> 00:43:59.010
Yeah, it should come up.
00:43:59.410 --> 00:44:03.490
Um ahead, let's just talk about this right now.
00:44:03.570 --> 00:44:04.530
And I hope I'm not.
00:44:04.690 --> 00:44:05.650
Are you you still good?
00:44:06.050 --> 00:44:06.849
Yeah, yeah, great.
00:44:06.930 --> 00:44:07.010
Yeah.
00:44:07.410 --> 00:44:08.369
I have a week away.
00:44:08.930 --> 00:44:09.170
Okay.
00:44:09.570 --> 00:44:09.889
Yeah.
00:44:10.050 --> 00:44:10.289
Okay.
00:44:10.849 --> 00:44:21.809
Um tell us about the we talked about it before we started the to record this um race that you're the endurance edge and that you're you you hold every year.
00:44:22.050 --> 00:44:23.090
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:23.250 --> 00:44:25.250
Um yeah, I've just been all those things.
00:44:25.650 --> 00:44:30.450
Yeah, so saying all those things related to the endurance edge, I'm kind of like, you know, we we kind of have like five businesses in one.
00:44:30.530 --> 00:44:34.210
It's kind of interesting, but um, I wouldn't have it any other way.
00:44:34.450 --> 00:44:38.130
Um, in COVID, we had so many people who were training for Iron Man.
00:44:38.289 --> 00:44:41.090
They're like, I just can't, I can't, I can't keep this up.
00:44:41.170 --> 00:44:43.170
I don't want to keep this up, you know.
00:44:43.730 --> 00:44:47.090
So we decided that we were gonna put on an Iron Man race.
00:44:47.170 --> 00:44:58.130
And for like six or seven athletes, we had um a couple of them do the what what was our full, and a couple did halves, and a couple did uh a choose your own adventure.
00:44:58.210 --> 00:45:03.329
Like they did a 2.4 mile swim and then they did a 56 mile bike and then they did a 10K run.
00:45:03.570 --> 00:45:14.210
Um, you know, so uh and we had one of our guys who was in construction and he was like, Well, steel is stronger than iron, so why don't we just call ourselves humans of steel?
00:45:14.369 --> 00:45:15.809
I was like, that sounds great.
00:45:16.050 --> 00:45:18.530
And you know, we sort of joked around about that.
00:45:19.570 --> 00:45:28.210
And a couple of years later, we noticed that this time of the year is sort of a um a sparse time for races.
00:45:28.369 --> 00:45:44.690
I mean, obviously it's hot, but uh we decided that we were gonna make ourselves official, and so we got the name for Humans of Seal Racing, and to make it unique, because that's what we do, we have a reverse format.
00:45:44.849 --> 00:45:47.650
So it's run bike swim.
00:45:48.130 --> 00:45:48.769
That's awesome.
00:45:48.930 --> 00:46:01.970
Um partly to be different and partly because I think way more people should be doing aqua bike, you know, which is just swim swim, I shouldn't say just it is swim bike, which is still a big deal.
00:46:02.610 --> 00:46:08.369
Uh, but you know, they've had knee replacements, they've had hip replacements, they don't want to run, they can't run, whatever.
00:46:08.530 --> 00:46:11.809
Like, fine, you you should still be able to play.
00:46:12.050 --> 00:46:12.369
Right.
00:46:12.530 --> 00:46:24.450
So with aquabike, it's so anticlimactic that you swim and bike and then you just roll yourself right into transition and ain't nobody there with a medal, you know, you're just like, and I'm done, and that was it.
00:46:25.010 --> 00:46:33.650
Um, so this gives that population an opportunity to share in the glory of the finish line with everybody else.
00:46:33.970 --> 00:46:44.130
So albeit, you know, you're like dragging yourself up out of the water and like, get me to the end, but still somebody's standing there to put a put a medal on your neck.
00:46:44.930 --> 00:46:50.849
And uh it doesn't matter whether you did the sprint or the Olympic traflon or whether you did a sprint or Olympic Rocco Bag.
00:46:50.930 --> 00:46:51.570
We don't know the difference.
00:46:51.650 --> 00:46:52.690
We put a medal on you.
00:46:52.849 --> 00:46:54.289
So when when is that?
00:46:54.369 --> 00:46:55.650
When do you do that?
00:46:55.970 --> 00:46:58.849
So we uh this year it is August 2nd.
00:46:59.170 --> 00:47:02.210
So we've historically we've historically done it.
00:47:02.369 --> 00:47:08.610
Um the first year I think we did end of August, and then I don't remember why we moved up to early August.
00:47:08.769 --> 00:47:10.289
Uh, but here we are.
00:47:10.530 --> 00:47:14.610
So it's hot, but uh it's a lot of fun and it's different.
00:47:15.010 --> 00:47:18.530
How do you sign up if somebody's listening and they want to do this race?
00:47:18.690 --> 00:47:19.570
This year or something.
00:47:20.130 --> 00:47:26.530
Humans of steel racing.com and that should bring them to the humans of steel racing.com and that should bring them.
00:47:26.610 --> 00:47:31.970
It's in it's located in Harris Lake at Harris Lake County Park, which is just south of Raleigh.
00:47:32.530 --> 00:47:32.849
Okay.
00:47:33.410 --> 00:47:49.970
So pretty easy to get to, whether you're flying in or whether you're driving, and um, it's a fun little area to have a little excursion and then do a little fun reverse, weird, crazy race.
00:47:50.050 --> 00:47:54.849
And you know, we're USA Travon certified, so um you get points for it.
00:47:55.090 --> 00:47:55.730
That's cool.
00:47:56.610 --> 00:48:07.809
Yeah, I know you've had the opportunity to um on your podcast to interview some really interesting, remarkable athletes and human beings.
00:48:07.970 --> 00:48:13.650
And I just wanted to say that um we both know Natalie Gribeau.
00:48:13.970 --> 00:48:15.250
Is that his last name?
00:48:15.570 --> 00:48:16.289
Yeah, yeah.
00:48:16.530 --> 00:48:18.210
You had the opportunity to interview her.
00:48:18.610 --> 00:48:19.970
Not many people did.
00:48:20.450 --> 00:48:26.769
And I'm I mean, I don't know that many people, how many podcasts she did, but I mean you know, she's been in the media a lot.
00:48:26.849 --> 00:48:33.650
But um, here's somebody that last year at age 80 competed at Kona World Championship.
00:48:33.889 --> 00:48:35.329
Yeah, and at age 80.
00:48:35.970 --> 00:48:45.090
The world record for the yeah for the oldest, the oldest person to complete the world championship Iron Man Trath on.
00:48:45.410 --> 00:48:50.849
Well, first, congratulations on you know having her on your show and giving her the opportunity.
00:48:50.930 --> 00:48:56.130
Um you're the perfect host to have, you know, given her that platform.
00:48:56.289 --> 00:49:02.769
And because I think you understand like you know, how people get to those moments in their lives.
00:49:03.329 --> 00:49:21.730
I'm curious though, like with the humans of steel and all the athletes that you've coached over the years and having the opportunity to interview Natalie, is there some kind of silver lining or some thread that you see across people across all the athletes?
00:49:22.050 --> 00:49:22.369
Right.
00:49:22.610 --> 00:49:24.369
Is it some is an enjoyment?
00:49:24.530 --> 00:49:25.970
Is it is it having fun?
00:49:26.130 --> 00:49:34.610
You know, I don't want to lead you in that, but I mean like from beginners to then somebody like Natalie, like in your experience, because you have a lot of experience more than me.
00:49:35.090 --> 00:49:40.050
Yeah, I mean, she she didn't start until her 50s.
00:49:40.369 --> 00:49:43.329
It's incredible, it really is incredible.
00:49:43.570 --> 00:49:57.090
Um, I think those are some, I mean, no offense to uh all of the athletes out there who get into the sport, but I find that to be the most inspiring when people are like, you know what, I just hit menopause, let's do a triathlon.
00:49:57.250 --> 00:50:03.490
I'm like, we had a guy two years ago who was turning 70 and he was like, I want to do my first triathlon.
00:50:03.730 --> 00:50:05.730
We're like, okay, let's go.
00:50:06.210 --> 00:50:19.090
Um, so I think there is a degree of curiosity when people start, like, oh my gosh, this seems really scary.
00:50:19.889 --> 00:50:24.769
But I think I have it in me to do this hard thing.
00:50:25.250 --> 00:50:31.570
And then once they get into it, and then if they stay into it, it becomes more of a lifestyle.
00:50:31.730 --> 00:50:49.650
It becomes like training is just part of what I do, where I see it as the challenge is that training is what I'm supposed to do, where people get in trouble and then they want to quit.
00:50:50.289 --> 00:50:52.050
That's an interesting distinction.
00:50:52.289 --> 00:50:52.769
Yes.
00:50:52.930 --> 00:50:55.809
So they want to train and they enjoy it.
00:50:55.970 --> 00:50:56.450
Yeah.
00:50:56.769 --> 00:51:08.289
But when it becomes a job and when they become more isolated, because we we talk about that in our we've got accountability calls as part of our longevity lab.
00:51:08.610 --> 00:51:18.369
And um, we've had athletes who come on there and they're like, Oh, I just feel like training is, you know, I'm just on the trainer or I have I have this long run and my friends are going out for this shorter run.
00:51:18.530 --> 00:51:20.369
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:51:20.530 --> 00:51:38.289
Like, you need to have a conversation with your coach of if I'm gonna stick with this and I want to stick with it, how can I have this beautiful combination of I'm doing this because I want to get better at it, but also I need the social aspect.
00:51:38.690 --> 00:51:40.369
I have to be with people.
00:51:41.090 --> 00:51:42.769
I can't I can't be isolated.
00:51:42.849 --> 00:51:53.010
And if you're isolated, if you're just like if all you're doing is training by swimming on your own and sitting in your quote unquote pain cave, which is like the worst name for a place to train in.
00:51:54.210 --> 00:52:03.889
Um then I just I find that they don't get joy out of it at all, and then they're more likely to stop.
00:52:04.690 --> 00:52:12.769
So you know, you're the perfect guest for me to have on the show coming back from my conference.
00:52:13.090 --> 00:52:13.410
Yeah.
00:52:14.050 --> 00:52:17.809
Sort of is it giving you validation to all the things that you were?
00:52:18.369 --> 00:52:20.849
I mean, it's like I couldn't have planned it.
00:52:21.250 --> 00:52:23.490
Like we've never really talked before.
00:52:23.650 --> 00:52:31.250
We've had like one phone conversation that we've had, you know, just our lives have been kind of you know, missing each other here and there.
00:52:31.570 --> 00:52:33.329
Okay, let me tell you what you just said.
00:52:33.570 --> 00:52:34.690
Okay, yes, okay.
00:52:35.010 --> 00:52:38.849
So and and and here's a little teaser.
00:52:39.010 --> 00:52:44.210
I'm gonna be on Chris's podcast, and we're gonna dive more into self-determination theory.
00:52:44.450 --> 00:52:44.849
Yes.
00:52:45.090 --> 00:52:48.530
But I think in August I'm gonna, if we can make it work.
00:52:49.010 --> 00:52:49.170
Yeah.
00:52:49.410 --> 00:53:01.170
What you just said, so base so self-determination theory says that we have three basic psychological needs that we all need to kind of flourish and to thrive: autonomy, competence, and relatedness.
00:53:01.410 --> 00:53:05.570
So what you just said about social isolation isolation, right?
00:53:05.970 --> 00:53:13.809
When you're do working towards something and and you lose that sense of connection, and you you you know, you lose joy in it.
00:53:14.050 --> 00:53:17.010
And you're most likely not gonna stick with it long term.
00:53:17.490 --> 00:53:20.050
So that sense of social connection is is important.
00:53:20.130 --> 00:53:21.730
It's it's called relatedness.
00:53:22.210 --> 00:53:22.530
Okay.
00:53:22.690 --> 00:53:23.410
Relatedness.
00:53:23.809 --> 00:53:24.530
Relatedness.
00:53:24.690 --> 00:53:26.690
Competence is where you acquire the skills.
00:53:26.769 --> 00:53:43.090
You gave us so many examples of people getting into the pool, starting at the edge, blowing bubbles, doing half-iron, you know, taking them on that journey where they gain confidence and become much more internally regulated, intrinsically motivated.
00:53:43.329 --> 00:53:43.650
Yeah.
00:53:43.889 --> 00:53:46.130
And feel joy in that process.
00:53:46.369 --> 00:53:54.369
And again, when you feel joy, the research research shows most likely more long-term adherence to what you're doing.
00:53:54.610 --> 00:53:57.650
We talked about somebody like Natalie at age 80.
00:53:57.809 --> 00:53:59.170
I mean, she still started at 50.
00:53:59.250 --> 00:54:00.450
That's still 30 years.
00:54:00.610 --> 00:54:01.570
That's a long time.
00:54:04.769 --> 00:54:05.010
Yeah.
00:54:05.090 --> 00:54:09.329
I mean, she was yeah, well into her 50s, I think, I think.
00:54:09.650 --> 00:54:13.090
So she, you know, she's just embarrassed that she couldn't swim.
00:54:13.329 --> 00:54:16.530
And then she was like, okay, maybe I need to figure this out, you know.
00:54:16.849 --> 00:54:19.889
Well, and she experienced joy in that process.
00:54:20.130 --> 00:54:25.010
Um, and I want to come back to that uh with her one second.
00:54:25.170 --> 00:54:27.329
I just want to say the last one, autonomy.
00:54:27.650 --> 00:54:32.769
And that's you, you discussed it in, you know, in terms of your journey to getting here.
00:54:33.010 --> 00:54:33.329
Yeah.
00:54:33.570 --> 00:54:34.930
So it's really, it's fascinating.
00:54:35.010 --> 00:54:35.250
I love it.
00:54:35.329 --> 00:54:39.730
I think I feel like this really is um putting understanding this in practice.
00:54:40.050 --> 00:54:49.490
And for our listeners to to to learn, to learn for yourself, because I don't know what there's no way Chris and I can know what you might be struggling with today.
00:54:49.730 --> 00:54:54.690
Maybe there's a goal that you've been thinking about forever and you haven't taken the other step.
00:54:54.930 --> 00:54:59.490
Maybe you feel more your health is just not where you want it to be.
00:54:59.730 --> 00:55:01.490
So that's the whole point of this conversation.
00:55:01.650 --> 00:55:03.170
We are health development leaders.
00:55:03.329 --> 00:55:06.130
We want you to live your best life from total out.
00:55:06.530 --> 00:55:07.889
So that's really the point.
00:55:08.050 --> 00:55:08.210
Yeah.
00:55:08.450 --> 00:55:12.450
One more quick thing with Natalie, and I've shared this story with her and with you.
00:55:12.769 --> 00:55:21.410
At Eagle Man, June 2024, I was standing next to her before we were getting ready to swim.
00:55:21.889 --> 00:55:26.690
And I knew I was kind of standing next to this amazing human being.
00:55:26.769 --> 00:55:26.930
Yeah.
00:55:27.090 --> 00:55:34.610
And at the time I was trying to recruit for my dissertation research, and I was like, Sarah, this she fit the she fit the inclusion criteria perfectly.
00:55:34.690 --> 00:55:36.690
I knew she was in the water, she's a ter athlete.
00:55:36.769 --> 00:55:39.010
And I was like, Sarah, this is not the right time.
00:55:39.170 --> 00:55:41.809
Like, hey, you want to be in my research study?
00:55:42.210 --> 00:55:43.650
Jumping into the water, right?
00:55:43.889 --> 00:55:44.050
Right.
00:55:44.210 --> 00:55:44.690
Yeah.
00:55:44.849 --> 00:55:48.050
I I, you know, I tried for a long time to to connect with her.
00:55:48.210 --> 00:55:52.930
I just recently connect with her and had a wonderful email exchange.
00:55:53.170 --> 00:55:55.410
And um, she's just a remarkable person.
00:55:55.490 --> 00:55:59.170
So I wanted to give her shout out on this episode, you know.
00:55:59.490 --> 00:56:00.369
Yeah, definitely.
00:56:00.530 --> 00:56:07.010
I was so impressed by how like chill she is, you know.
00:56:07.090 --> 00:56:16.690
I I feel like so many people are intimidated by Trafon because it's such a hard-driving or has the potential to be such a hard-driving sport.
00:56:17.090 --> 00:56:25.650
Um, and uh she she was just like, yeah, I just get up every morning and I eat my bowl of Cheerios with blueberries on it.
00:56:25.889 --> 00:56:28.050
And that's because I like it.
00:56:28.210 --> 00:56:31.970
I was like, can I call Cheerios and get you on the box?
00:56:32.210 --> 00:56:39.490
I was like, you need to be like I just like I don't really take any vitamins, I don't, you know, whatever.
00:56:39.650 --> 00:56:48.210
Yeah, maybe some glucosamine and you know, just like and oh, I have these vegan friends who come over and it's just so annoying to cook.
00:56:51.250 --> 00:57:03.170
And that's not a dig on vegans if you are vegan, like of all honored for whatever path you go down nutrition-wise, but I just thought she just tickled me so so I mean she's comfortable.
00:57:03.410 --> 00:57:11.250
She loves it, she's just so uh committed to like I get up, I do my movement, I do my mobility, and I go on with my day.
00:57:11.329 --> 00:57:15.650
I take care of my husband, and then I get a good night's rest and I get up and do it all over again.
00:57:15.809 --> 00:57:19.490
Yeah, and she's just so committed to that and she enjoys it.
00:57:19.650 --> 00:57:22.210
Yeah, a lot of lessons there for all of us to learn.
00:57:22.369 --> 00:57:24.050
Yeah, yeah, totally.
00:57:24.450 --> 00:57:24.769
Okay.
00:57:25.730 --> 00:57:34.289
This I feel like we could talk for, you know, we have so many um common interests, and but yeah, for the sake of our listeners.
00:57:34.450 --> 00:57:35.650
Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:57:35.889 --> 00:57:39.650
I'm gonna leave you with this question that we talked about when we started.
00:57:39.730 --> 00:57:48.289
I'm gonna let you have the final word on all of this, and then we can continue this conversation perhaps when I join you on your show.
00:57:48.450 --> 00:57:48.769
Yeah.
00:57:49.090 --> 00:57:56.769
Um, and then, you know, and if you want to continue to listen to Chris and I converse, yeah.
00:57:57.010 --> 00:57:59.090
We'll carry it on on that episode.
00:57:59.250 --> 00:58:00.849
Okay, yeah, you ready for it?
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Yeah, I'm ready.
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You know what it is, right?
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I I I hope so, but you know, I'm not I, you know, listen, I'm on let's go, let's go.
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Okay, I'm a flexible kind of guy.
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Let's go.
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Okay, Chris Newport.
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What are we training for?
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Oh, you have to answer that question for yourself.
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I think we really need to dig deep into uh, you know, you know, it's like me when I was 15.
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I knew that that was my calling.
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I knew that that was my purpose, and now being in it, it brings me so much joy.
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Like I just absolutely love it.
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And I think that um, I like to say, be the match.
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Like strike the match, you light the fire, and then put it to something, and it will just go wild.
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Like you can share your journey, you can share that process with so many different people that you just don't even have any idea who you're impacting.
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And I just, and we are such powerful uh entities in that respect, that if you whatever it is you're doing, if you are training for Trathlon or you're um you know, you're moming hard, or whatever it is that brings you joy and that has brought you here for that purpose, you know, charge on.
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Like that's it.
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Just live into it and uh and keep going because the waves that you are made, like the fires you are lighting under people, you just you just you just don't even know the impact, which is so cool.
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I guess I should have said, you know, literally and metaphorically, but yeah, answered it that way.
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So yes, that was great.
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Well, there you have it.
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Um so much wisdom.
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I I love to have guests on such as yourself.
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I go back and I listen to these episodes often.
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I do, and I encourage our audience to do the same.
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Um I guess for my final thought in terms of like wrapping this all up.
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I think you said it so beautifully right in the beginning, and we didn't even plan it.
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And I love when that kind of magic happens.
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Like sometimes the view like sometimes you have to spend a little time either on the top of the mountain or after you've climbed the mountain and just give yourself some time to reflect.
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Make sure you're doing these things because they are things that you enjoy, you're doing them for yourself, you're not doing them to please other people, yeah.
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And um, and have fun.
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Go out there and and live your best life.
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Yeah, and whether that's sometimes a coach or a friend or a family member who is that person to like tap you on the shoulder and be like, check the view out.
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Yeah, don't do it.
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We're so much stronger together.
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I know that's we are not my original statement.
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I you know, I get all the time on the RMM platform, but it is true.
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We're we are we are stronger together when we and you just said it, you know, when you like when you like that like match, yeah.
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Be the mat that energy, you know, you just don't know um how you're gonna impact others in the world.
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Okay, before we sign off, it's the enduranceedgeyep uh dot com.
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If you want the longevity lab, it's the endurance edge forward slash forward slash longevity.
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Yeah, longevity.
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Are you on social media?
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You'll find it once you head to our homepage, you'll find it in there.
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How about social media?
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People want to follow you on social media.
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Yeah, social media at the endurance edge.
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And um, our podcast is called Find Your Edge.
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So um, which you should be able to hopefully you should be able to find it if you search for the endurance edge too.
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Um we're here.
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You have a very successful podcast.
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I've seen it on YouTube.
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Um, and you put out great content.
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And so it was an honor to have you on.
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And in a way, you're a mentor, so I appreciate that.
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Yeah, of course.
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Um listen, everybody, thank you for uh joining us and tuning in to the PHG Journey Unplugged podcast.
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And um, thank you, Chris Newport, for being here today.
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Yeah, thank you.
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Appreciate you.
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Bye.