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Everybody, Peter D Man is here and welcome
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to our next episode of exponential wisdom. I'm
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here with my dear friend and coach.
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And fellow
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birthday person. He's a main night
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Torres Yeah. Very, very
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rock solid tourist.
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He's May nineteenth on On May twentieth, so
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Happy be birthday down. Thank you. And I
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wanna talk about what we heard in with
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open Eyes.
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P400
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standing for Omni,
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and Google Ios
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announcements, back to back, literally day to day
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back to back. But
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more than that, before we go into, I
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wanna talk about the speed of change because
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I just had a conversation, I was on
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stage at an event. For 3000 people in
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Las vegas, I guess, yesterday,
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and then a small executive summary. And and
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the conversation it with the executive leaders at
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that summit
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where people were just fearful about how fast
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things are changing
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and their ability to keep up with it.
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I've written about this in my various books.
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I liken it to the asteroid hitting the
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earth 65000000 years ago, and the disruptive change
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the environment is so rapid and so fast
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that the slow lumber dinosaurs are unable to
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adopt and they die. Mh. And it's only
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to furry little mammals that are agile that
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are able to adapt, and they ultimately
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dominate and they become us.
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And so the asteroid striking the earth today
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is
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exponential tac. It's fundamentally
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driven by Ai.
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And
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I'm fearful...
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I think, ultimately, Ai is gonna be the
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greatest gift humanity ever gets. Mh. And it's
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gonna uplift humanity.
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But there are a lot of people who...
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Their heads are gonna spin. Mh. And I
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think human nature is 1 where people like,
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waking up in the morning,
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and knowing that the world is the same
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as it was when they went to sleep,
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whether they live in a good or bad
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place. Mh. Consistency
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makes people feel
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reasonably happy. Do agree with that?
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Well, first of all, I picked the answer
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is drugs.
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What kind of drugs?
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Anything that makes you not notice the acceleration.
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Anyway, no, that's just a joke. I don't
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want anybody spreading rumors about me. Anyway, but...
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It has to do with what your own
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personal vision is. I think, you know,
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Both us deal with entrepreneurs?
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Yes. I remember your first workshop
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when he came to coach, and the first
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thing I asked you at what age are
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you going to die, Peter?
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You put a long number out there. I
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did many hundreds of years out there. Yeah.
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And I said, well, that's cool.
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And what it does, the longer your view
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the less current than moment change really bothers
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you because when you have a sense of
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your, a long lifetime,
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It's like, for minus is 01:56,
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and it's been that way since 19 87.
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So that hasn't changed. I will ask you
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when you're 01:55.
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Yeah. But first of all, we don't have
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too many people who live longer than 01:20
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because of the hay like barrier.
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You know, the number of times that the
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cells in your body reproduce, which is 50.
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I was told by Peter Dia monte,
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does every platinum trip that you take? You
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say, how many times does the yes cells
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of the home body
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reproduce?
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And who's the first hand up? Day on
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sell? You always remember, yes, Cells basically divide
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50 times. And at the end of the
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50 times, they can become 1 of... 3
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things, Dan. Do you remember what that is?
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The.
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Sun cells.
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Keep going.
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They the decency to die? Yeah.
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Or the third thing. If they're not sen
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sn and they're not dead. Cancer is. Cancer.
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Yes. And you don't want
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cancer. Yeah. But that's... A longevity conversation, and
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I'm focusing. But I find, you know, that
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all the coach clients, they have 25 or
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30 year extensions of where
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they thought they would be as an entrepreneur.
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So I have people, you know, not too
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many, but I have some people in the
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eighties who think they're gonna work through till
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a hundred. And that actually slows things down
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the longer your vision. But a lot of
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people, they don't have more than a 24
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hour vision.
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You know, of where their life is. For
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example, of, 1 of the contributing factors to
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inner city crime,
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you know, with young people being criminals is
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that they actually,
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don't believe if they do something bad, they
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can't get in trouble in 24 hours.
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Okay? So their whole sense of the future
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is very, very immediate.
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Now. K? And, you know,
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legality and ethics and morality are really based
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on having a long view of the consequences
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of your present actions. You know, that's what
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makes us moral. If I do this, it's
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gonna cause me trouble 10 years from now.
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That takes a long view.
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But here, I'm gonna ask you a question.
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We've been working together now since 2011,
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and I don't see too much difference in
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what you do. Than what you were doing
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in 2011,
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except you're not doing red ice as much.
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Yes.
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Are you talking about from a...
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You had x price, and you have x
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price.
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I think the activity of x price is
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probably predictable
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15, 20 years in the future.
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Know. You have a 03:60, and I think
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that what you singularity and button 03:60 came
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out of singularity and you. Yeah. And then
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I think my longevity businesses have
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increased in scope. I, you know, I've started
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2 venture funds.
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And buys. You moved from about 5 miles
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by my ripen. You've moved about 5 miles
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away from where you lived when I first
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met you to where you live now. Yeah.
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You're still in Santa Monica, better section. There
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is momentum. Yeah. You know, I've moved out
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of this space world more into longevity and
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Ai,
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But I'm still operating 24 7
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driven by my Mt p's and my passions.
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Yeah. Yeah. My business model is any different
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in 2024
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than it was in 19 89. Mh. You
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know, it's still entrepreneurs. It's still workshops. But
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do you think that there is gonna be...
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You know, I opened up with a conversation
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of disruption and agility.
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Right? So as Ai...
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Does begin to
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do things like, you know,
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1 of my chief a officers, Steve Brown,
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you met him you know, we've been building
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out a visions steve you've had of a,
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basically Ai University,
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Where the greatest thinkers of all time are
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teaching you from the Western books. Right? So
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we're gonna reinvent how we educate people.
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Phone life is very rapidly
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bringing Ai into everything it's doing, and we're
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gonna reinvent how we diagnose and treat people.
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There's gonna be an increased efficiency
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in every
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business.
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people have fear
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because they fear disruption.
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Do you think they're not gonna be disrupted?
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it's kind of interesting. That people at cherry
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picked the past when things were changing and
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they said, there's massive amount of change. But,
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you know, I went through a fair amount
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of change. Because change is all relative to
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the way things were last year or what
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you're looking forward to. Mh. Actually, I missed
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the big change. I wasn't a baby boomer.
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Okay. You know, I'm 2 years before the
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baby boom, And I just have nothing but
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opportunity because my generation was this first generation
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that was smaller than the previous
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generation in Us history.
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So my generation is 28 to 46 according
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to most people's reckoning.
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And they had built up the school system
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for many more to students and I came
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along, and you had everything.
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Teachers gave you any amount of attention that
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you wanted. I went into the job market.
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Has just been nonstop abundance by whole life
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just because of when I was born.
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So you can see right now that
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generation z
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are your children? They're 13 next months, you
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know, they're 20 11 kids. I don't actually
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know what the dm market... I don't know,
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but See, I think things are actually gonna
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slow down from 1 perspective,
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which is that we just are seeing the
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retirement,
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of the biggest
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generation that the United States is ever gonna
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have. The generation of the boomers is the
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biggest.
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And part of the contributing factor, to
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inflation, I think is that people who are
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very skilled at running systems for 40 years
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and teamwork systems are now leaving
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you see it in the airline industry, especially
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the pilots aren't veteran pilots,
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the cabin crew are not veteran people.
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20 percent of it can be written down
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in a rule book. The rest of it
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is just vast ex experience. You know, you've
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been in this situation you've been in that...
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But that's perfect for Ai to learn.
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Yeah. Right? Ai can observe and pick up
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and learn
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and training datasets sets by just listening and
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watching. Yeah. And it does really well. Yeah.
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I think it's gonna be fantastic at the
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skilled trade levels.
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Where you can train somebody in a a
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trained skill. You, for example, a, you know,
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not mechanic with Ai,
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and the goggles, it's augmented reality,
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and they run you through every day you
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take an engine apart and put it together
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just following the Ai. And then after 2
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weeks, you can do it without the goggles,
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you know, and everything else. So my sense
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is that it takes time
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2 to actually do things
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because you can have a hundred percent of
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human beings unemployed by robots.
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I think the amount of capital that's gonna
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be involved for all this new technology is
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actually gonna go down.
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I disagree. I think we're continuously to massive
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investments. I mean, I have my team at
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family office events in London this week for
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my Ai fund and the amount of capital
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out of the traditional family offices, sort of
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the wealth base of the world looking to
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invest in Ai
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into certain sectors. Yep. Okay. But the baby
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boom generation is no longer investing in new
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1 of the things I find fascinating is
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that the most advanced technologies we're seeing in
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the form of
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you know, open Ai and Google and philanthropic
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per complexity. And so forth... They're all 3.
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I mean, that's an amazing
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notion that the most advanced tech out there
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is made available free for people. Yeah. Which
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means that people aren't making a lot of
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money on it. Yeah. The business models
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are freemium business models, but I'm not sure
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they've got the back ends figured out yet.
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No. That's the...
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That's a little bit scary. Yeah. Can I
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ask you a question? My perception since I've
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talked to you? About technology.
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Yes. As those large amounts, I'll just use
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Silicon Valley because technology is happening everywhere. And
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now Silicon Valley seems to me looking more
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and more like Las Vegas.
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Okay? Oh so. There's a house.
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And it's early investors.
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Okay. So it's not betting on the invention.
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It's a betting on the bet.
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Say that again. What do you mean? Well,
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what I noticed is that a a lot
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of the bedding, you know, for technology is
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I'm the bed. Itself to be in early
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and get out quick.
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That's Las Vegas.
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Yep.
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I can see that. Right? I can see
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that people are
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getting in during the
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inflationary hype period. Yeah. And then they're getting
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out.
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When stupid money follows.
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Yep. Yep. Yeah. I mean, the guy who
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just got sentenced to 20 years in prison.
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Yeah. Sam Ben. Right? Say, you know, and
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everything else, but people were betting on the
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bed. They weren't actually betting on something useful.
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Yeah. I'm not saying that that's not part
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of the system. I think that's part of
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the system.
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Okay. I'm just saying, but it's not productive.
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This is what's going on in meme coins.
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Right? All of the cryptocurrency, like Do coin
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and the equivalents, which have no utility. They're
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just people are
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betting that this particular
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meme is gonna increase in value because everybody.
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It's a po scheme in that regard
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that's the We wanna go. Let's talk about
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the following. Yeah. You are at the abundant
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summit, and you heard the conversation about
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digital super intelligence. Right? Elon was there saying,
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we're gonna... See a hundred x in the
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next year,
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you know, never seen anything going as rapidly
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at this. We had Ray K and Eric
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Schmidt and, you know, see the conversation turned
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to the idea that we're gonna have not
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just artificial general intelligence, human level Ai, and
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Gl 3,
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just got clocked at an iq of 01:01,
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which is above average. Right? And then Gp
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4 0 came in above clause 3,
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and
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x ai, I'd never bet against Elon
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is gonna be, you know, G is gonna
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be coming out over the next year, G
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2 dot o.
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And the notion is we may have
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Ai as intelligent as the entire human race
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in the next
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4 or 5 years.
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Yeah. Well, I don't know what that means,
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so. How would you know if it even
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happened.
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Where would it show Let me describe a
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scenario and you tell me... How you think
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the world reacts.
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So.
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Here we go. There is an Ai that
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you can speak to in natural language like
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we just did.
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We me having the same exact conversation we're
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having, And I can say, can you go
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research this for me and come back with
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the data?
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And generate the most cog argument. You know,
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it's going for my wish to a material.
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Can you go and create a website and
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a marketing plan and launch this product and
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start selling this product.
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And all of a sudden
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it's make a wish and have it materialized.
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You can say I need a drug that
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is specifically for my disease. Go and model
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it. We come back with that. Mh. The
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best example came out of the opening talk
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in which
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the notion was a new content called Ai
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Was just discovered
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with a hundred million graduate students.
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Who will work
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effectively for free for just the price of
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if he wants to power.
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Where you have unlimited
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intelligence able to put together a series of
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actions and accomplish
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whatever you ask,
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it's like, having a a thousand employee organization
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without having Hr issues
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and where it efficiently does your work. So
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what's that world look like if we really
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have that level of digital super intelligence?
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Well, what do you do it tomorrow?
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I mean, if you can do that today,
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what do you do tomorrow that's different?
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I mean, at some point, you gotta focus
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on something and work on it?
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You do...
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I think 1 of the questions becomes if
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everything becomes so easy, is there going to
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be challenged.
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We humans need challenges. We need purpose. Well,
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humans is a theory. You know, we don't
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experience humanity. I experienced Peter. I, you know,
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Yeah. I believe in Dunbar law, we have
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emotional capacity, not more than a hundred and
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50 papers version people. First of all, I
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think a lot of the people that you
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have want somebody to bet on their guests.
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Sure. Yep. The future is guesses and vets.
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It's not just guesses and bets it's also
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taking action towards implementation. Yep. Yeah. You know,
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I have a goal for my hundredth birthday.
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That the asset value of all the strategic
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coach clients active at that time is about
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10000 we have
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2700
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right now. But in 20 years, there's natural
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growth rates will be about 10000.
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And the asset value of their Ip will
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be 15000000000000 dollars. Mh. So I just put
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that goal out there, and then I think
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about it every day. So my sense is
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that be change is only meaningful if it's
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changed in the direction of your long term
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plans.
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That's how I look at it. I've got
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a model it just reproduce itself every year.
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Okay? And what's based on is in person
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communication, People really love in person
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communication They love being with other human beings.
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They love the brakes. They love going out.
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And 1 of the things I'm struck by.
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With a lot of the Ai people that
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I see on Youtube and everything else, they
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don't have very good grasp with human intelligence.
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And what I mean is they take that
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it's about information. Human beings are not information
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processors.
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Mh. They're are meaning makers.
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Actually, human beings are shitty
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information processors. We are meaning makers. Our brain
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is a meaning making machine. Yeah. This is
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true.
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Yeah. So it it doesn't work like a
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computer at all.
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Yeah. But I I would argue that computers
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are shifting.
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How we see them.
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Right? I mean, again, the recent,
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you know, announcements at Open,
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we're pretty extraordinary.
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I'm gonna just take a second and maybe
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listen. I wanna hear
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what you think of this. This is the
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part where it's an emotional
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conversation
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with Gp 4 0,
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as Gp 4 was telling a story. I
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found this the most compelling part of the
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example, just to listen 1 second. Different languages.
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I want you to tell with Bedtime story
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about robots and love.
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Oh,
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a bedtime story about robots and love. I
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got you covered.
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Gather round barrett,
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once upon a time in a world not
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too different from ours, there was a robot
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named Bite.
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Bite was a curious robot, always explored the
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story, but I want a little bit more
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emotion in your voice. A little bit more
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drama.
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Once upon a time in a world
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too different from ours. There was a robot
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named Bite.
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Bite. Tickets... Do this in a robotic voice
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now?
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Initiating
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dramatic robotic voice
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once upon a time.
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I don't know. For me.
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There's a significant step forward
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in terms of a
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natural
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conversational,
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emotionally laden in.
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Dialogue with an Ai. Mh.
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Well, yeah. It is. But could you tell
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that that wasn't a human?
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I don't know. I could tell immediately that
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it's not a human. I think we passed
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through test Well, because it doesn't fall in
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the area of what sounds like a human.
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Like your robot said a 03:60? Why they
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all speak with a British accent?
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Well, in that case, because that company is
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based in the Uk. But that's a issue.
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Yeah, see what I think is happening
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is...
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First of all, humans get smarter in relationship
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to their technology.
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Mh. You know, it's like set theory,
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if the set is humanity, technology is just
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a subset of humanity.
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We went to a mountain view for the
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first... What became me 3.
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Yeah. Yeah. Blake
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Spoke, and I went up to him at
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break. And I said, when you talk about
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intelligence, are you talking about consciousness?
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And he says, nobody knows what consciousness is.
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I said, well, I think it has something
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to do with human thinking.
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You know, it's not a result of calculation.
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You know, it's not a trillion
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decisions per second consciousness is something completely different.
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You know? If you're conscious, in other words,
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the you're aware of your thinking,
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I think that you can tell that this
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is not human because
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I have a client who uses Ai to
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do the tools.
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Okay? So he'll do a strategy circle with
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the strategic coach tools, and he'll do a
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strategy circle. He'll do a triple play. And
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I said, yeah, But did anything happen to
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your thinking from having the Ai do the
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work, and he said, no. I said, all
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you've discovered was an Ai can do your
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tools. You don't get any value out of
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the thinking. Yeah. I agree with that. But
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I do believe we passed the touring test
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a long time ago where it's
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indistinguishable. But I would put to you
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that at this level,
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it's not distinguish indistinguishable, whether there's something is
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a human or not.
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If there was a distinguish indistinguishable element of
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it, that could be analyzed and taken out
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of the equation. Yeah. Yeah. Could be. I
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mean, it's... To be discovered because
542
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humans are very adjustable. We were going home
543
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on the freeway
544
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about 3 months ago. And I said, if
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you took somebody from a hundred years ago
546
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and put them in the car, they go
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cat tonic.
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Freak out.
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Yeah, cars as far as you could see
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all traveling at the same speed, you know,
551
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surprisingly few accidents,
552
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but we normalize the speed. We've normalized the
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situation. I think it's a function of normalizing
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You know? But here's a question. We normalize
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over some unit of time. Yeah. But the
556
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speed of change is accelerating
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And at what point does it break? Yeah.
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And this was the conversation I had with
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this speak engagement yesterday, which was... It's not
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that we can't adapt to
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digital
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intelligence and being in virtual worlds and coming
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into and out of... The meta in having
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humanoid robots and life doubling,
565
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But it's...
566
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How fast does that hit
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our society and our culture and our systems.
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It breaks governments, it breaks
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societal
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agreements,
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Well, then they all stop it.
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Who went the government?
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Yeah. You pull the plug. You pulled I
574
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don't think it can be pulled.
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I mean, I think it'll try. I think
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you're right in that regard. Which is prior,
577
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humanity or technology?
578
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Well, biological technology or physics.
579
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Yeah. It's a series of agreements. What makes
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things work is there's a series of agreements
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and how we do things.
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For example, from my perspective, Evs have had
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a wall
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because all the market for Evs bought their
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Evs already.
586
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Okay. So that stop technology right now. You
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know, They don't do well in cold weather
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when you see whole charging stations,
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that where everything has ran out of power.
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There's 40 cars and they can't charge.
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That has a human impact. You're were talking
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about Fukushima in 3 mile Island,
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knowing that your E could just freeze up
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during the wintertime.
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I mean, we can tell the power. We
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have a Tesla act, and we can tell
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the power differentials from winter to
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summer. So my sense is it's like humans
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are not the agents here, the technology is
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the agent. And I think that's the big
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question here You know, who's in control of
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what's happening?
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And if it gets 2 out of hand,
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there's ways of correcting it.
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I don't think there's any on off switch.
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I don't think there's any velocity knob.
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I think we're living in a
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world that is
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at an ever increasing accelerating rate. Well, I
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don't experience it.
611
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And you don't experience that? No.
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Peter still Peter,
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you know, we talked about new things all
614
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the time, and just as an observer,
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of you, I don't see much difference in
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how you are operating
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10:11 years ago than you're operating right now.
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I think the content of what I talk
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about and what I teach. Yeah. The content
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that I used to start new companies is
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different. Yeah. The ability per unit time
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to do things and the productivity per unit
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dollar. Yeah. Those things have all gone up,
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the focus
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of what I do.
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Remains roughly the same, but the efficiency with
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which I do it. Yeah, is increasing. Yeah.
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I mean, I started coaching and the company
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had 3 in employees, and now we've I've
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got a hundred and 30 in employees. You
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know, We were in 1 city, and now
632
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we're in 3 country. And that's all changed,
633
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but it's happened in stages, and we don't
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get in front of our skis.
635
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1 of the big things is free time.
636
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How much free time do you take?
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Mh. It's an interesting concept. Yeah. It is.
638
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You haven't normalized it. Yeah.
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Yeah. You turn it on, turn it off.
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You know?
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But 1 of the
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revolutions that I've looked at a lot was
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Gut,
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14 55 was the date given for his
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first
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press
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And in 30 years, there were 40000
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presses across mostly Northern Europe.
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And next hundred and 50 years, it just
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turned society on it sad the fact that
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individuals... First of all, a lot of people,
652
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they found out they were far sided. They
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had to have eyeglasses because humans weren't used
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to looking at print, and they had to
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adjust, you know, and the control of information
656
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was in the hands of the church
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in Europe,
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and that all got broken within about a
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hundred and 50 years, their control of information.
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But, you know, we have Ai today because
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we had printing in 14 55
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because you have to have high literacy to
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take advantage of Ai.
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It all depends on how you got yourself
665
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organized on the inside. I know there's always
666
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new things, but not all of it's interesting
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to me. That's true. You know. Yeah. I
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tell people, you know, the abundance doesn't be
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any good if you have a scarcity mindset.
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That I was talking about... You know, things
671
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like opportunity. And I said, Ever go swimming,
672
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like, in the ocean, like a big lake
673
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or anything like that, and you come out,
674
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and the person said how is the water
675
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and I said, well, the water was great,
676
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but I missed a lot of it.
677
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I said, how much water do you need?
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Do I mean, you just need the
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local area. And it's like information. How much
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information do you need? Love just the stuff
681
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that relates to what you're going for
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But I think 1 big change, I think
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universities are gonna go away. You know, Dan,
684
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I think that's a great.
685
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Topic for our next conversation. Let's do that.
686
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Let's talk about that. I can see half
687
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the universities in the United States going away.
688
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Yeah. I think they're broken
689
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the economics don't work. The outcomes are poor.
690
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Yeah. Let's wrap this episode here and let's
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continue on with
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conversation on the reinvent invention of Oh, the
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education and universities.
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Okay. Alright, buddy. Good to see you. When
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did you get out of this 1? Well,
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you know,
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for me,
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my focus,
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my
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massive transformative purpose, my moonshot
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have remained
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consistent Mh. Over our, you know, multi deck
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Span together.
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But my efficiency of the impact I can
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have
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per unit time per unit dollar has been
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increasing, and that's really what technology is giving
708
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me. Yeah. And I think humans need to
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have clarity on their purpose
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their mindset,
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their moonshot, the people wanna they hang out
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with and then technology is a
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amplification force for that. Mh.
714
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Yeah. I mean, it's always something to be
715
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talked about.
716
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Really, it's about you. It's about the people
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you know, are they going to be okay?
718
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Society.
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It doesn't have a a email address, and
720
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it doesn't have a street address and if
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it doesn't have an email address in the
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street address. I don't worry about society.
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Hi, buddy. Oh, you. Okay.
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Everybody, Peter D Man is here and welcome
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to our next episode of exponential wisdom. I'm
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here with my dear friend and coach.
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And fellow
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birthday person. He's a main night
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Torres Yeah. Very, very
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rock solid tourist.
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He's May nineteenth on On May twentieth, so
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Happy be birthday down. Thank you. And I
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wanna talk about what we heard in with
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open Eyes.
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P400
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standing for Omni,
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and Google Ios
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announcements, back to back, literally day to day
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back to back. But
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more than that, before we go into, I
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wanna talk about the speed of change because
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I just had a conversation, I was on
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stage at an event. For 3000 people in
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Las vegas, I guess, yesterday,
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and then a small executive summary. And and
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the conversation it with the executive leaders at
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that summit
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where people were just fearful about how fast
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things are changing
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and their ability to keep up with it.
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I've written about this in my various books.
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I liken it to the asteroid hitting the
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earth 65000000 years ago, and the disruptive change
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the environment is so rapid and so fast
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that the slow lumber dinosaurs are unable to
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adopt and they die. Mh. And it's only
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to furry little mammals that are agile that
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are able to adapt, and they ultimately
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dominate and they become us.
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And so the asteroid striking the earth today
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is
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exponential tac. It's fundamentally
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driven by Ai.
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And
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I'm fearful...
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I think, ultimately, Ai is gonna be the
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greatest gift humanity ever gets. Mh. And it's
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gonna uplift humanity.
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But there are a lot of people who...
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Their heads are gonna spin. Mh. And I
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think human nature is 1 where people like,
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waking up in the morning,
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and knowing that the world is the same
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as it was when they went to sleep,
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whether they live in a good or bad
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place. Mh. Consistency
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makes people feel
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reasonably happy. Do agree with that?
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Well, first of all, I picked the answer
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is drugs.
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What kind of drugs?
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Anything that makes you not notice the acceleration.
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Anyway, no, that's just a joke. I don't
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want anybody spreading rumors about me. Anyway, but...
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It has to do with what your own
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personal vision is. I think, you know,
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Both us deal with entrepreneurs?
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Yes. I remember your first workshop
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when he came to coach, and the first
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thing I asked you at what age are
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you going to die, Peter?
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You put a long number out there. I
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did many hundreds of years out there. Yeah.
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And I said, well, that's cool.
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And what it does, the longer your view
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the less current than moment change really bothers
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you because when you have a sense of
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your, a long lifetime,
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It's like, for minus is 01:56,
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and it's been that way since 19 87.
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So that hasn't changed. I will ask you
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when you're 01:55.
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Yeah. But first of all, we don't have
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too many people who live longer than 01:20
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because of the hay like barrier.
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You know, the number of times that the
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cells in your body reproduce, which is 50.
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I was told by Peter Dia monte,
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does every platinum trip that you take? You
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say, how many times does the yes cells
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of the home body
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reproduce?
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And who's the first hand up? Day on
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sell? You always remember, yes, Cells basically divide
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50 times, they can become 1 of... 3
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things, Dan. Do you remember what that is?
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Keep going.
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They the decency to die? Yeah.
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Or the third thing. If they're not sen
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sn and they're not dead. Cancer is. Cancer.
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cancer. Yeah. But that's... A longevity conversation, and
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I'm focusing. But I find, you know, that
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all the coach clients, they have 25 or
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30 year extensions of where
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they thought they would be as an entrepreneur.
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So I have people, you know, not too
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many, but I have some people in the
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eighties who think they're gonna work through till
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a hundred. And that actually slows things down
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the longer your vision. But a lot of
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people, they don't have more than a 24
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hour vision.
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You know, of where their life is. For
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example, of, 1 of the contributing factors to
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inner city crime,
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you know, with young people being criminals is
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that they actually,
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don't believe if they do something bad, they
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can't get in trouble in 24 hours.
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Okay? So their whole sense of the future
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is very, very immediate.
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Now. K? And, you know,
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legality and ethics and morality are really based
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on having a long view of the consequences
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of your present actions. You know, that's what
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makes us moral. If I do this, it's
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gonna cause me trouble 10 years from now.
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That takes a long view.
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But here, I'm gonna ask you a question.
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We've been working together now since 2011,
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and I don't see too much difference in
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what you do. Than what you were doing
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in 2011,
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except you're not doing red ice as much.
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Are you talking about from a...
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that what you singularity and button 03:60 came
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out of singularity and you. Yeah. And then
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I think my longevity businesses have
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increased in scope. I, you know, I've started
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2 venture funds.
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And buys. You moved from about 5 miles
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by my ripen. You've moved about 5 miles
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away from where you lived when I first
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met you to where you live now. Yeah.
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You're still in Santa Monica, better section. There
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is momentum. Yeah. You know, I've moved out
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of this space world more into longevity and
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Ai,
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But I'm still operating 24 7
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driven by my Mt p's and my passions.
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Yeah. Yeah. My business model is any different
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in 2024
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than it was in 19 89. Mh. You
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know, it's still entrepreneurs. It's still workshops. But
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do you think that there is gonna be...
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You know, I opened up with a conversation
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of disruption and agility.
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Right? So as Ai...
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do things like, you know,
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1 of my chief a officers, Steve Brown,
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you met him you know, we've been building
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out a visions steve you've had of a,
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basically Ai University,
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Where the greatest thinkers of all time are
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teaching you from the Western books. Right? So
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we're gonna reinvent how we educate people.
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Phone life is very rapidly
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bringing Ai into everything it's doing, and we're
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gonna reinvent how we diagnose and treat people.
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people have fear
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because they fear disruption.
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it's kind of interesting. That people at cherry
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picked the past when things were changing and
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they said, there's massive amount of change. But,
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of change. Because change is all relative to
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the way things were last year or what
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you're looking forward to. Mh. Actually, I missed
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the big change. I wasn't a baby boomer.
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baby boom, And I just have nothing but
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opportunity because my generation was this first generation
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that was smaller than the previous
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generation in Us history.
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for many more to students and I came
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along, and you had everything.
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you wanted. I went into the job market.
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just because of when I was born.
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which is that we just are seeing the
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retirement,
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generation that the United States is ever gonna
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have. The generation of the boomers is the
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inflation, I think is that people who are
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very skilled at running systems for 40 years
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you see it in the airline industry, especially
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the pilots aren't veteran pilots,
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the cabin crew are not veteran people.
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in a rule book. The rest of it
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is just vast ex experience. You know, you've
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watching. Yeah. And it does really well. Yeah.
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skilled trade levels.
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trained skill. You, for example, a, you know,
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not mechanic with Ai,
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and the goggles, it's augmented reality,
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and they run you through every day you
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take an engine apart and put it together
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just following the Ai. And then after 2
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weeks, you can do it without the goggles,
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you know, and everything else. So my sense
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because you can have a hundred percent of
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human beings unemployed by robots.
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I think the amount of capital that's gonna
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actually gonna go down.
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I disagree. I think we're continuously to massive
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investments. I mean, I have my team at
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family office events in London this week for
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my Ai fund and the amount of capital
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out of the traditional family offices, sort of
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the wealth base of the world looking to
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into certain sectors. Yep. Okay. But the baby
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boom generation is no longer investing in new
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They're pulling money out of the system after
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that the most advanced technologies we're seeing in
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you know, open Ai and Google and philanthropic
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per complexity. And so forth... They're all 3.
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notion that the most advanced tech out there
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is made available free for people. Yeah. Which
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means that people aren't making a lot of
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money on it. Yeah. The business models
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are freemium business models, but I'm not sure
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they've got the back ends figured out yet.
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That's a little bit scary. Yeah. Can I
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ask you a question? My perception since I've
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talked to you? About technology.
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Silicon Valley because technology is happening everywhere. And
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now Silicon Valley seems to me looking more
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and more like Las Vegas.
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Okay? Oh so. There's a house.
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And it's early investors.
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Okay. So it's not betting on the invention.
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It's a betting on the bet.
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Say that again. What do you mean? Well,
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what I noticed is that a a lot
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of the bedding, you know, for technology is
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I'm the bed. Itself to be in early
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and get out quick.
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That's Las Vegas.
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I can see that. Right? I can see
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that people are
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getting in during the
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inflationary hype period. Yeah. And then they're getting
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out.
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When stupid money follows.
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just got sentenced to 20 years in prison.
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everything else, but people were betting on the
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bed. They weren't actually betting on something useful.
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Yeah. I'm not saying that that's not part
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of the system. I think that's part of
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the system.
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Okay. I'm just saying, but it's not productive.
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This is what's going on in meme coins.
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Right? All of the cryptocurrency, like Do coin
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and the equivalents, which have no utility. They're
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just people are
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betting that this particular
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meme is gonna increase in value because everybody.
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It's a po scheme in that regard
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that's the We wanna go. Let's talk about
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the following. Yeah. You are at the abundant
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summit, and you heard the conversation about
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digital super intelligence. Right? Elon was there saying,
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we're gonna... See a hundred x in the
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next year,
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you know, never seen anything going as rapidly
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at this. We had Ray K and Eric
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Schmidt and, you know, see the conversation turned
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to the idea that we're gonna have not
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just artificial general intelligence, human level Ai, and
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Gl 3,
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just got clocked at an iq of 01:01,
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which is above average. Right? And then Gp
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x ai, I'd never bet against Elon
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is gonna be, you know, G is gonna
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be coming out over the next year, G
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Ai as intelligent as the entire human race
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in the next
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4 or 5 years.
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Yeah. Well, I don't know what that means,
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so. How would you know if it even
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happened.
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Where would it show Let me describe a
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scenario and you tell me... How you think
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the world reacts.
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So.
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Here we go. There is an Ai that
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you can speak to in natural language like
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we just did.
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We me having the same exact conversation we're
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having, And I can say, can you go
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research this for me and come back with
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the data?
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And generate the most cog argument. You know,
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it's going for my wish to a material.
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Can you go and create a website and
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a marketing plan and launch this product and
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start selling this product.
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And all of a sudden
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it's make a wish and have it materialized.
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You can say I need a drug that
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is specifically for my disease. Go and model
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it. We come back with that. Mh. The
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best example came out of the opening talk
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in which
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the notion was a new content called Ai
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Was just discovered
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with a hundred million graduate students.
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Who will work
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effectively for free for just the price of
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if he wants to power.
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Where you have unlimited
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intelligence able to put together a series of
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actions and accomplish
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whatever you ask,
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it's like, having a a thousand employee organization
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without having Hr issues
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and where it efficiently does your work. So
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what's that world look like if we really
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have that level of digital super intelligence?
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Well, what do you do it tomorrow?
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I mean, if you can do that today,
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what do you do tomorrow that's different?
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I mean, at some point, you gotta focus
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on something and work on it?
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You do...
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I think 1 of the questions becomes if
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everything becomes so easy, is there going to
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be challenged.
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We humans need challenges. We need purpose. Well,
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humans is a theory. You know, we don't
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experience humanity. I experienced Peter. I, you know,
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Yeah. I believe in Dunbar law, we have
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emotional capacity, not more than a hundred and
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50 papers version people. First of all, I
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think a lot of the people that you
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have want somebody to bet on their guests.
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Sure. Yep. The future is guesses and vets.
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It's not just guesses and bets it's also
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taking action towards implementation. Yep. Yeah. You know,
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I have a goal for my hundredth birthday.
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That the asset value of all the strategic
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coach clients active at that time is about
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10000 we have
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2700
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right now. But in 20 years, there's natural
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growth rates will be about 10000.
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And the asset value of their Ip will
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be 15000000000000 dollars. Mh. So I just put
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that goal out there, and then I think
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about it every day. So my sense is
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that be change is only meaningful if it's
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changed in the direction of your long term
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plans.
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That's how I look at it. I've got
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a model it just reproduce itself every year.
427
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Okay? And what's based on is in person
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communication, People really love in person
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communication They love being with other human beings.
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They love the brakes. They love going out.
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And 1 of the things I'm struck by.
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With a lot of the Ai people that
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I see on Youtube and everything else, they
434
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don't have very good grasp with human intelligence.
435
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And what I mean is they take that
436
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it's about information. Human beings are not information
437
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processors.
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Mh. They're are meaning makers.
439
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Actually, human beings are shitty
440
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information processors. We are meaning makers. Our brain
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is a meaning making machine. Yeah. This is
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true.
443
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Yeah. So it it doesn't work like a
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computer at all.
445
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Yeah. But I I would argue that computers
446
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are shifting.
447
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How we see them.
448
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Right? I mean, again, the recent,
449
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you know, announcements at Open,
450
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we're pretty extraordinary.
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I'm gonna just take a second and maybe
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listen. I wanna hear
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what you think of this. This is the
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part where it's an emotional
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conversation
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with Gp 4 0,
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as Gp 4 was telling a story. I
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found this the most compelling part of the
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example, just to listen 1 second. Different languages.
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I want you to tell with Bedtime story
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about robots and love.
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Oh,
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a bedtime story about robots and love. I
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got you covered.
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Gather round barrett,
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once upon a time in a world not
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too different from ours, there was a robot
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named Bite.
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Bite was a curious robot, always explored the
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story, but I want a little bit more
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emotion in your voice. A little bit more
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drama.
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Once upon a time in a world
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too different from ours. There was a robot
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named Bite.
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Bite. Tickets... Do this in a robotic voice
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now?
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Initiating
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dramatic robotic voice
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once upon a time.
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I don't know. For me.
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There's a significant step forward
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in terms of a
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natural
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conversational,
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emotionally laden in.
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Dialogue with an Ai. Mh.
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Well, yeah. It is. But could you tell
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that that wasn't a human?
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I don't know. I could tell immediately that
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it's not a human. I think we passed
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through test Well, because it doesn't fall in
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the area of what sounds like a human.
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Like your robot said a 03:60? Why they
495
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all speak with a British accent?
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Well, in that case, because that company is
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based in the Uk. But that's a issue.
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Yeah, see what I think is happening
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is...
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First of all, humans get smarter in relationship
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to their technology.
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Mh. You know, it's like set theory,
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if the set is humanity, technology is just
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a subset of humanity.
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We went to a mountain view for the
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first... What became me 3.
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Yeah. Yeah. Blake
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Spoke, and I went up to him at
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break. And I said, when you talk about
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intelligence, are you talking about consciousness?
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And he says, nobody knows what consciousness is.
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I said, well, I think it has something
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to do with human thinking.
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You know, it's not a result of calculation.
515
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You know, it's not a trillion
516
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decisions per second consciousness is something completely different.
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You know? If you're conscious, in other words,
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the you're aware of your thinking,
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I think that you can tell that this
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is not human because
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I have a client who uses Ai to
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do the tools.
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Okay? So he'll do a strategy circle with
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the strategic coach tools, and he'll do a
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strategy circle. He'll do a triple play. And
526
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I said, yeah, But did anything happen to
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your thinking from having the Ai do the
528
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work, and he said, no. I said, all
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you've discovered was an Ai can do your
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tools. You don't get any value out of
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the thinking. Yeah. I agree with that. But
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I do believe we passed the touring test
533
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a long time ago where it's
534
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indistinguishable. But I would put to you
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that at this level,
536
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it's not distinguish indistinguishable, whether there's something is
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a human or not.
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If there was a distinguish indistinguishable element of
539
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it, that could be analyzed and taken out
540
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of the equation. Yeah. Yeah. Could be. I
541
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mean, it's... To be discovered because
542
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humans are very adjustable. We were going home
543
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on the freeway
544
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about 3 months ago. And I said, if
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you took somebody from a hundred years ago
546
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and put them in the car, they go
547
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cat tonic.
548
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Freak out.
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Yeah, cars as far as you could see
550
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all traveling at the same speed, you know,
551
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surprisingly few accidents,
552
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but we normalize the speed. We've normalized the
553
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situation. I think it's a function of normalizing
554
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You know? But here's a question. We normalize
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over some unit of time. Yeah. But the
556
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speed of change is accelerating
557
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And at what point does it break? Yeah.
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And this was the conversation I had with
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this speak engagement yesterday, which was... It's not
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that we can't adapt to
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digital
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intelligence and being in virtual worlds and coming
563
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into and out of... The meta in having
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humanoid robots and life doubling,
565
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But it's...
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How fast does that hit
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our society and our culture and our systems.
568
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It breaks governments, it breaks
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societal
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agreements,
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Well, then they all stop it.
572
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Who went the government?
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Yeah. You pull the plug. You pulled I
574
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don't think it can be pulled.
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I mean, I think it'll try. I think
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you're right in that regard. Which is prior,
577
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humanity or technology?
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Well, biological technology or physics.
579
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Yeah. It's a series of agreements. What makes
580
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things work is there's a series of agreements
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and how we do things.
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For example, from my perspective, Evs have had
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a wall
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because all the market for Evs bought their
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Evs already.
586
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Okay. So that stop technology right now. You
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know, They don't do well in cold weather
588
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when you see whole charging stations,
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that where everything has ran out of power.
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There's 40 cars and they can't charge.
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That has a human impact. You're were talking
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about Fukushima in 3 mile Island,
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knowing that your E could just freeze up
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during the wintertime.
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I mean, we can tell the power. We
596
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have a Tesla act, and we can tell
597
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the power differentials from winter to
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summer. So my sense is it's like humans
599
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are not the agents here, the technology is
600
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the agent. And I think that's the big
601
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question here You know, who's in control of
602
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what's happening?
603
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And if it gets 2 out of hand,
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there's ways of correcting it.
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I don't think there's any on off switch.
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I don't think there's any velocity knob.
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I think we're living in a
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world that is
609
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at an ever increasing accelerating rate. Well, I
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don't experience it.
611
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And you don't experience that? No.
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Peter still Peter,
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you know, we talked about new things all
614
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the time, and just as an observer,
615
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of you, I don't see much difference in
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how you are operating
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10:11 years ago than you're operating right now.
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I think the content of what I talk
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about and what I teach. Yeah. The content
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that I used to start new companies is
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different. Yeah. The ability per unit time
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to do things and the productivity per unit
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dollar. Yeah. Those things have all gone up,
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the focus
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of what I do.
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Remains roughly the same, but the efficiency with
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which I do it. Yeah, is increasing. Yeah.
628
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I mean, I started coaching and the company
629
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had 3 in employees, and now we've I've
630
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got a hundred and 30 in employees. You
631
00:24:28,669 --> 00:24:31,542
know, We were in 1 city, and now
632
00:24:31,542 --> 00:24:33,474
we're in 3 country. And that's all changed,
633
00:24:33,633 --> 00:24:36,431
but it's happened in stages, and we don't
634
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get in front of our skis.
635
00:24:38,429 --> 00:24:40,027
1 of the big things is free time.
636
00:24:40,426 --> 00:24:41,785
How much free time do you take?
637
00:24:42,438 --> 00:24:44,979
Mh. It's an interesting concept. Yeah. It is.
638
00:24:45,297 --> 00:24:46,647
You haven't normalized it. Yeah.
639
00:24:48,790 --> 00:24:50,617
Yeah. You turn it on, turn it off.
640
00:24:50,855 --> 00:24:51,173
You know?
641
00:24:51,904 --> 00:24:53,281
But 1 of the
642
00:24:53,658 --> 00:24:55,652
revolutions that I've looked at a lot was
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Gut,
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14 55 was the date given for his
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first
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press
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And in 30 years, there were 40000
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presses across mostly Northern Europe.
649
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And next hundred and 50 years, it just
650
00:25:09,329 --> 00:25:11,840
turned society on it sad the fact that
651
00:25:12,056 --> 00:25:13,887
individuals... First of all, a lot of people,
652
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they found out they were far sided. They
653
00:25:16,275 --> 00:25:19,379
had to have eyeglasses because humans weren't used
654
00:25:19,379 --> 00:25:21,856
to looking at print, and they had to
655
00:25:21,856 --> 00:25:25,507
adjust, you know, and the control of information
656
00:25:25,507 --> 00:25:27,516
was in the hands of the church
657
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in Europe,
658
00:25:29,099 --> 00:25:31,331
and that all got broken within about a
659
00:25:31,331 --> 00:25:33,801
hundred and 50 years, their control of information.
660
00:25:34,439 --> 00:25:37,962
But, you know, we have Ai today because
661
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we had printing in 14 55
662
00:25:40,434 --> 00:25:42,907
because you have to have high literacy to
663
00:25:42,907 --> 00:25:44,582
take advantage of Ai.
664
00:25:45,474 --> 00:25:47,385
It all depends on how you got yourself
665
00:25:47,385 --> 00:25:49,933
organized on the inside. I know there's always
666
00:25:49,933 --> 00:25:52,243
new things, but not all of it's interesting
667
00:25:52,243 --> 00:25:55,041
to me. That's true. You know. Yeah. I
668
00:25:55,041 --> 00:25:57,737
tell people, you know, the abundance doesn't be
669
00:25:57,737 --> 00:25:59,957
any good if you have a scarcity mindset.
670
00:26:00,592 --> 00:26:02,830
That I was talking about... You know, things
671
00:26:02,830 --> 00:26:05,298
like opportunity. And I said, Ever go swimming,
672
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like, in the ocean, like a big lake
673
00:26:08,085 --> 00:26:09,677
or anything like that, and you come out,
674
00:26:10,409 --> 00:26:11,924
and the person said how is the water
675
00:26:11,924 --> 00:26:13,200
and I said, well, the water was great,
676
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:14,636
but I missed a lot of it.
677
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:18,305
I said, how much water do you need?
678
00:26:18,465 --> 00:26:20,081
Do I mean, you just need the
679
00:26:20,393 --> 00:26:22,961
local area. And it's like information. How much
680
00:26:23,098 --> 00:26:24,927
information do you need? Love just the stuff
681
00:26:24,927 --> 00:26:27,018
that relates to what you're going for
682
00:26:27,408 --> 00:26:29,716
But I think 1 big change, I think
683
00:26:29,716 --> 00:26:32,423
universities are gonna go away. You know, Dan,
684
00:26:32,741 --> 00:26:34,571
I think that's a great.
685
00:26:35,143 --> 00:26:37,847
Topic for our next conversation. Let's do that.
686
00:26:38,006 --> 00:26:40,232
Let's talk about that. I can see half
687
00:26:40,232 --> 00:26:42,698
the universities in the United States going away.
688
00:26:42,936 --> 00:26:44,629
Yeah. I think they're broken
689
00:26:44,939 --> 00:26:47,728
the economics don't work. The outcomes are poor.
690
00:26:48,286 --> 00:26:50,436
Yeah. Let's wrap this episode here and let's
691
00:26:50,436 --> 00:26:51,313
continue on with
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conversation on the reinvent invention of Oh, the
693
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education and universities.
694
00:26:56,661 --> 00:26:58,966
Okay. Alright, buddy. Good to see you. When
695
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did you get out of this 1? Well,
696
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you know,
697
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for me,
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my focus,
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my
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massive transformative purpose, my moonshot
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00:27:09,174 --> 00:27:10,232
have remained
702
00:27:10,943 --> 00:27:14,453
consistent Mh. Over our, you know, multi deck
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Span together.
704
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But my efficiency of the impact I can
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have
706
00:27:21,009 --> 00:27:23,170
per unit time per unit dollar has been
707
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increasing, and that's really what technology is giving
708
00:27:25,329 --> 00:27:27,329
me. Yeah. And I think humans need to
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have clarity on their purpose
710
00:27:30,224 --> 00:27:30,964
their mindset,
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00:27:31,343 --> 00:27:33,660
their moonshot, the people wanna they hang out
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00:27:33,660 --> 00:27:35,598
with and then technology is a
713
00:27:36,057 --> 00:27:37,495
amplification force for that. Mh.
714
00:27:38,229 --> 00:27:41,023
Yeah. I mean, it's always something to be
715
00:27:41,023 --> 00:27:41,502
talked about.
716
00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:44,775
Really, it's about you. It's about the people
717
00:27:44,775 --> 00:27:47,170
you know, are they going to be okay?
718
00:27:47,821 --> 00:27:48,217
Society.
719
00:27:48,852 --> 00:27:50,676
It doesn't have a a email address, and
720
00:27:50,676 --> 00:27:52,422
it doesn't have a street address and if
721
00:27:52,422 --> 00:27:53,929
it doesn't have an email address in the
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00:27:53,929 --> 00:27:56,251
street address. I don't worry about society.
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Hi, buddy. Oh, you. Okay.
