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00:00:14.925A few weeks ago on this podcast, I mentioned one word that was the trigger behind almost every single crisis.
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00:00:25.393In this episode, I'm going to give you the word that is the trigger behind every crisis, but the distinction, it's the external trigger.
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00:00:29.603Hey there, everyone, Welcome to this episode of the PR Breakdown.
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00:00:31.527I'm your host, Molly McPherson.
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00:00:37.305Before we get to that word, I have to tell you, boy, did I have a week.
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00:00:47.121I was in Austin for South by Southwest, or as the cool kids call it, South by, and let me tell you it was nothing short of incredible.
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00:00:51.990I was so fortunate to be part of a panel sponsored by Muckrack.
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00:00:57.271It was moderated by the co-founder and CEO, Greg Gallant.
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00:01:00.079Joining me on the panel was Eleanor Hawkins.
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00:01:08.054She is the person behind the communicator newsletter by Axios, and also Laura Barganier of Citi.
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00:01:12.090The three of us spoke about the high stakes world of crisis management.
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00:01:14.146This was on Saturday afternoon.
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00:01:15.028We spoke for an hour.
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00:01:15.881You know it's funny.
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00:01:21.272When we came out to speak at first, I remember looking out at the crowd and it was a fairly big room.
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00:01:28.947I thought there aren't a lot of people here, and then Greg started speaking and I was immediately to his left.
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00:01:35.230He asked a question, then I answered it, and then Eleanor answered it, and then Laura answered and I came back to him and then I looked out and the place was packed.
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00:01:36.302That was exciting.
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00:01:47.141And after that panel session I laugh because I was so stressed I was asked to do a Speaker Connect session by the organizers of South by Southwest.
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00:01:50.090It was a small group AMA session.
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00:01:55.605Anyone at South by could register and sit in for this session.
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00:02:02.188I was so nervous because I spoke to someone working the front desk there and I asked what do I do next for the Speaker Connect?
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00:02:06.563And she looked at me like um, what do I do next for the Speaker Connect?
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00:02:12.824And she looked at me like um, and just as she was saying, um, the person who asked me to do the Speaker Connect was right behind her and he said hey, molly, how you doing.
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00:02:13.605It was Adam.
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00:02:16.920I thought perfect, you are the person I want to speak to right now.
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00:02:20.211He gave me the deal and I said okay, adam, you've got to give it to me straight.
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00:02:26.962Has any speaker showed up to a room and no one's been there.
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00:02:27.343He's like, well, no.
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00:02:28.568He said no, we always get people here.
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00:02:34.251But he said, if it makes you feel any better, he said yours filled up immediately and then one of the first ones to fill up.
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00:02:36.963Now do I think Adam was lying to me?
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00:02:48.504No, did I fully believe that Adam was telling me that my session filled up first, before anyone else, not necessarily somewhere in the middle, but it did fill.
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00:02:55.853I went into the room and every single person in that room represented a section of my career.
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00:02:56.694It was incredible.
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00:03:01.727Some wanted to know crisis management, some wanted to talk about TikTok, some want to talk about the podcast.
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00:03:05.073I loved the hour and it was incredibly interesting.
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00:03:13.741Then, after that, my last night there, I spoke to oh my gosh, also another favorite audience young people.
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00:03:16.992It was a fireside chat how to spot a crisis.
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00:03:18.740It was at St Edwards University.
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00:03:23.106I've never been on that campus, beautiful Catholic school in Austin.
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00:03:30.967So it was hosted by PRSA Austin and Amelia Folks was the person who invited me but also was the moderator.
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00:03:32.050She asked me questions.
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00:03:34.563It was a great Q&A, although there was no fireplace.
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00:03:42.290So it really wasn't a fireside chat, but we had students there, people from PRSA, people from the board and then just people who saw it promoted.
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00:03:43.682It was fantastic.
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00:03:49.008I was in Phoenix first because I spoke for an association on Tuesday, then I had to fly to Austin.
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00:03:58.479I was in the Delta lounge sitting reading articles, watching videos, and I came across one video posted by Reuters In the headline.
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00:04:15.814I felt I was going to find that word and sure enough, the word itself jumped out right at me Strip the politics aside and just focus on what this person, the voter, is saying, and you'll hear the word.
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00:04:16.822Take a listen.
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00:04:20.711Jennifer Piggott voted for Trump in the November election.
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00:04:25.475Then in February she was fired from her civil service job.
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00:04:27.500Absolutely, I feel a little bit betrayed.
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00:04:36.552She was among more than 125 people dismissed last month from the Treasury Department's Bureau of Fiscal Service in Parkersburg, west Virginia.
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00:04:38.701There's always that back and forth conversation.
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00:04:49.892Now it's like you knew this was coming, but we didn't, like nobody that I've talked to understood the devastation that having this administration in office would do to our lives.
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00:05:08.305We've all seen how quickly a crisis can erupt, but if this word is ever in a soundbite or it's in a quote, then I know precisely what type of crisis it is, because it's a word that strips away all the layers of trust and leaves people raw.
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00:05:16.363A few weeks ago on this podcast, I talked about that emotion that drives a crisis internally, and that is fear.
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00:05:25.867That is the emotion that can create a crisis from within Leadership, members of the board, someone is worried about something.
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00:05:32.170In this case, it is the external feeling that creates an operational crisis.
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00:05:34.555Betrayal is heavy.
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00:05:44.036It brings back memories of personal letdowns, professional missteps and those gutunch moments when someone flips the script on you.
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00:05:48.887In activism and crisis communication, betrayal is a catalyst.
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00:05:53.959It's that spark that can ignite chaos if it's not addressed.
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00:06:01.310I want to provide two other examples of betrayal in this external crisis.
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00:06:19.702I'll switch gears and include an article that I found yesterday on my travels going through the newspaper and reading the headlines, and this one headline jumped out at me, and then another one that's hitting the press right now, and this falls into the corporate crisis communication space.
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00:06:23.947The first one is out of Fairfax County, virginia.
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00:06:30.341I live there on two different swings and I remember this development Kingstown.
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00:06:32.790It's a huge townhome development.
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00:06:35.389Think lots and lots of brick townhomes.
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00:06:41.293The HOA, the Home Owners Association, decide to remove a beaver.
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00:06:45.589When I saw this first article it was the headline that brought me right in.
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00:06:49.206It ran in the Washington Post on Tuesday, march 11th.
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00:06:53.201Headline an HOA set lethal traps for Wally the beaver.
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00:06:55.367Neighbors fought back.
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00:06:57.273How could you not be bold?
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00:07:03.110And let me read the first two paragraphs of this article written by Kyle Melnick.
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00:07:07.803First paragraph signs that a beaver is in residence are evident all around the local pond.
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00:07:17.321There are its teeth marks in the stumps of small trees it cuts down, the slapping sounds of its flat tail striking the water and its dam made of hundreds of pieces of wood.
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00:07:33.831Near the southwest corner of the Fairfax County, virginia pond, the semi-aquatic rodent is called Wally, a name its neighbors bestowed in a nod to a character from the post-World War II era sitcom Leave it to Beaver.
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00:07:36.814Post-world War II era sitcom.
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00:07:40.264Kyle, how old are you Now?
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00:07:48.435I know Leave it to Beaver was black and white and yeah, technically it was post-World War II programming.
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00:07:52.723But are we going to say that about Gilligan's Island and the Brady Bunch?
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00:07:56.031Oh my gosh, maybe just give it the decade.
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00:08:00.348We don't need to call it post-World War II era sitcom, but it is cute.
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00:08:02.596Wall-e get it and it's the beaver.
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00:08:03.661Here's what happened.
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00:08:09.295The HOA planned lethal traps to remove WALL-E to protect a pond.
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00:08:17.937The reaction over 2,000 community members signed a petition demanding a non-lethal solution.
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00:08:21.927It's the petition that is bringing this story into this podcast episode.
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00:08:24.593Because I work with clients who deal with petitions.
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00:08:26.177They don't like them.
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00:08:28.310It makes them nervous, which is understandable.
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00:08:34.831But petitions are used often by activists or activist-minded people who feel a sense of betrayal.
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00:08:38.037They want to retaliate, they want to strike back.
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00:08:44.394It is a public way to bring notice to their issue, to this sense of betrayal.
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00:08:52.636They typically go to changeorg and in this case this petition is called Save Wally, the Soul of Kingstown Lake.
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00:08:57.333Now that's a little different from a semi-aquatic rodent.
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00:08:58.977Listen to that language.
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00:09:03.294Here's what they wrote under it and you'll get a sense of why petitions can be effective.
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00:09:10.850Urgent Kingstown HOA hiring trappers to kill adolescent beaver Take action now.
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00:09:20.440This isn't a semi-aquatic animal that's destroying wildlife around a, I'd say, upscale townhome development.
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00:09:29.778Here are the first two articles in the petition Meet Wally, a young single beaver that has been seeking refuge in Kingstown Lake behind Ross.
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00:09:40.668Since September of last year, wally has cut a few tree saplings, mostly near the southwest corner of the lake, to build a small dam and lodge to call home.
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00:09:44.979The dam has not damaged any buildings, landscaping or infrastructure.
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00:09:55.837The management of Kingtown Residential Owners Corporation, kroc, which owns the lake, feels that Wally is a nuisance and must be handled swiftly, with the lowest effort and cost possible.
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00:09:59.666In Virginia, it is illegal to transport or relocate a beaver.
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00:10:02.152Therefore, they intend to trap and kill Wally.
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00:10:05.826A trapper has been hired to set a trap in the coming days.
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00:10:10.115All right, do you hear the framing in that language?
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00:10:17.253It is not a rodent who is destroying property around this upscale enclave of townhomes.
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00:10:19.856It is a young, single beaver.
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00:10:25.291It's a character we don't like to kill, characters that have names.
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00:10:43.827This is a brilliant campaign that was hatched by the advocates in Kingstown who do not want to see Wally gnawed to death within a trap, do not want to see Wally nod to death within a trap, within a lethal trap.
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00:10:44.548That is activism in action.
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00:10:47.754Now, does this fall in the corporate crisis communication sense?
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00:10:58.197No, but it's a communication tool that an activist group, people part of the Kingstown community, use to apply pressure to the HOA.
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00:11:01.509Now the Washington Post tried to get quotes from the HOA.
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00:11:05.977They went no comment, so you can see how effective this can be.
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00:11:15.389Typically, I tell clients not to worry about these petitions, because the petition is designed just to create more negative publicity.
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00:11:17.835They want to get the attention of the press.
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00:11:24.836It worked in Wally's case and it often works in bigger cases where there are numbers in the activism.
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00:11:32.450When there's just a few people, it's not quite as effective, but it can be a tool that applies just the right amount of pressure.
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00:11:34.779And in this case, here's another example.
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00:11:41.312That's the corporate angle and that's Target's crisis, and it's not just about grassroots or local issues.
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00:11:44.080The Target Corporation recently.
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00:11:55.279Their stock plummeted about $27.27 per share on February 28th, wiping out roughly $12.4 billion in market value.
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00:12:05.616This happened on an economic blackout day amid a growing backlash over Target's decision to drop its diversity, equity and inclusion commitments.
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00:12:10.687Is Target the only company that is dropping DEI?
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00:12:17.554No, is it the only big box retailer to drop DEI initiatives?
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00:12:21.519No, but Target is being targeted.
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00:12:30.769Shareholders are suing, arguing that these DEI policies hurt financial performance, while conservative groups are claiming the policies discriminate.
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00:12:38.738So the message out there is that Target is unfairly targeting certain consumers.
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00:12:44.538Now Target has been in the crosshairs because in 2023, they rolled back their Pride Month merchandise collection.
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00:12:52.595This case shines a light on what happens when leadership flip-flops on values.
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00:13:01.538If you remember Bud Light, dylan Mulvaney, that's when corporate was struggling with the trans issue in Pride Month and they stepped back.
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00:13:07.498But now here we are with an administration that is pressuring companies to drop DEI initiatives.
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00:13:22.620So for Target, they were sued Thursday by Florida and America First Legal for allegedly concealing the financial risks of its diversity, equity and inclusion programs stemming from the 2023 Pride Month merchandise collection.
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00:13:28.655But on the other hand, target is getting backlash because of their DEI retreat.
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00:13:43.018On January, 24th days into the Trump presidency, target announced it was eliminating hiring goals for minority employees and in an executive committee focused on racial justice and making other changes to its diversity initiative.
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00:13:47.490Target was calling the new strategy belonging at the bullseye.
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00:13:56.215Now I highlighted all of the big box retailers' decision to step back on DEI for a webinar that I did back in January.
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00:14:05.677The news was hitting just at that time and in this webinar about how to write a statement this past week, when I was speaking, dei came up.
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00:14:11.375As a matter of fact, it was the last question asked on my last day on the road.
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00:14:14.249It was asked by someone in the crowd at St Edward's.
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00:14:17.559She was asking the question about DEI because it isn't easy.
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00:14:19.745It is not easy to navigate.
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00:14:35.253You could cede and follow what the administration is doing so you can protect your business with this administration for money or the public is going to pay attention and they are going to see what you're doing as well, and that is what's happening.
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00:14:37.639People are boycotting Target.
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00:14:41.269I saw an article published today in the Charlotte Post.
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00:14:43.333This is the voice of the Black community.
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00:14:51.250In this article by Stacey M Brown, the National Newspaper Publishers Association has acted through its public education and selective buying campaign.
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00:14:59.794Npa President Benjamin F Chavez Jr said quote Black consumers helped build Target into a retail giant and now they are making their voices heard.
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00:15:05.715If corporations believe they can roll back diversity commitments without consequence, they are mistaken.
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00:15:06.758End quote.
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00:15:09.881They also brought research to the table.
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00:15:14.163Black people spend $12 million a day at Target.
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00:15:17.706If we withhold our dollars, we can make a statement that cannot be ignored.
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00:15:23.330This is backlash activism that is making a real impact.
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00:15:31.254You can see whether it is a beaver or it is a big retailer stepping back on an important initiative.
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00:15:34.837People are going to strike out the impact.
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00:15:36.583This isn't just a policy misstep.
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00:15:40.273It's a betrayal of the trust that helped build the brand to people.
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00:15:46.352When stakeholders feel betrayed, they react, and that reaction can be swift and severe.
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00:15:49.826Betrayal is the word of this podcast.
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00:15:55.042It's a little like Sesame Street is the word of this podcast.
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00:15:55.722It's a little like Sesame Street.
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00:15:56.325The letter of the day is B.
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00:15:56.985The word of the day is betrayal.
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00:15:58.789It's a word that carries a heavy weight.
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00:16:02.506When we hear it, our minds race back to personal experiences.
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00:16:09.905Think about the time when someone betrayed you, not just someone upset you or someone let you down.
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00:16:12.210Someone betrayed you.
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00:16:14.595It's more than just a feeling.
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00:16:17.846It can lead to a full-blown trigger for chaos.
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00:16:20.091There's a personal impact.
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00:16:24.366When someone you believe flips the script, it's like your whole world shifts.
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00:16:31.173It's that gut punch that makes you question everything, whether it's a personal betrayal or a brand you believed in.
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00:16:33.018It's a crisis catalyst.
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00:16:37.388In operational terms, betrayal sparks a rapid fire chain reaction.
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00:16:44.830It's the spark that can ignite a movement into a full crisis if it's not managed carefully, and it can be a repeated cycle.
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00:16:48.631Once that betrayal is out in the open, people start to see themselves as victims.
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00:16:53.849And, let's be honest, when anyone feels victimized, it's hard to break free from that cycle.
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00:17:02.952If you're a communicator, listening, ask yourself how does your company deal with betrayal when it comes to your leaders, when it comes to your board, your communities?
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00:17:10.781When your stakeholder feels betrayed, do you think you can rebuild that trust once it's been shattered?
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00:17:13.130How do you break the cycle betrayal?
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00:17:15.326What do you do when it starts to spread?
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00:17:16.490Here are some steps.
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00:17:19.607First, is that self-reflection, the mirror test?
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00:17:20.150Look within.
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00:17:24.029It's not just about what someone says or the attack against you.
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00:17:26.488It's about the core belief.
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00:17:29.648What does your company stand for?
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00:17:31.601What are your values?
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00:17:32.102Do they go against the?
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00:17:32.521What are your values?
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00:17:35.224Do they go against the values of your stakeholders?
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00:17:39.347You need to determine if the answer is yes or no.
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00:17:43.372If it goes against, then be prepared for the backlash.
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00:17:46.355Ways to work around it Open dialogue.
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00:17:48.717Create safe spaces for conversation.
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00:17:53.431Allow people to express their hurt, even if it stings.
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00:17:54.526Also, revisit leadership.
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00:17:55.788Ask tough questions.
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00:17:58.993Communicators, ask the tough questions of your leadership.
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00:18:01.223Do we have transparency?
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00:18:02.727Is there accountability?
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00:18:05.641Are our stakeholders, our customers, are they right?
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00:18:13.012And, as communicators, if you see something that is encroaching on the reputation of your company.
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00:18:17.048Act early, catch the moment that betrayal starts to creep in.
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00:18:21.442You can be the shining star of your organization if you can spot that.
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00:18:32.671And sitting in a room with a bunch of young people, a bunch of PRSSA members, they're asking questions about jobs and working in comms and how can you get hired?
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00:18:41.513What I told them is find a way to not only be relevant but to bring a media and social media literacy to the table.
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00:18:45.367You can break through and see these emotions.
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00:18:49.825I think younger people have a much better handle on how to do that.
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00:18:54.521If you're a young person looking for a job, this is a way that you can get your foot in the door.
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00:19:00.741If you're an established communicator in your job, this is a way to make a difference.
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00:19:05.974Self-reflection, open dialogue that rebuilds the trust.
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00:19:09.622Betrayal may seem like a small word, but its impact is enormous.
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00:19:16.829It can transform internal dynamics overnight, whether in an activist movement, a corporate boardroom or your everyday relationships.
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00:19:29.163For those of us who work in communication, the challenge is clear you have to be vigilant, you have to be empathetic and, above all, you have to be prepared to address this betrayal head on.
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00:19:30.867That's all for this week on the PR Breakdown.
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00:19:38.992I hope this episode resonated with you, especially if you're in the communication field, where trust and accountability they're everything.
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00:21:06.854Until next time, everyone, stay true to your values, stay vigilant and keep those conversations with your stakeholders honest.
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