March 17, 2026 · show notes

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

What happens when an AI hater starts building with AI agents? In this episode, we talk with software engineer Steve Klabnik, known for his work on the Rust programming language, about his journey from criticizing AI to experimenting with it firsthand. We explore Steve’s programming language Rue, largely built with the help of AI tools like Claude, and discuss what this means for software engineering and the future of coding in an AI-driven world.

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00:00:00Welcome to Practical AI

00:02:23Introducing the guest

00:03:24Steve's Journey from AI Skeptic to Advocate

00:06:36Importance of Agreeing on Facts in AI Discourse

00:15:47Role of Software Engineers in AI Collaboration

00:22:53Future of Software Development with AI

00:28:03Productivity and AI's Impact on Work

00:29:13Developing Rue

00:32:32Learning from AI in Compiler Development

00:36:27Evolution of Rue and AI Integration

00:38:59Rue's Positioning in the Programming Language Landscape

00:43:21Future Aspirations for Rue and AI in Development

00:54:41Outro

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