Why We're Building Our Own Software for Home Service Businesses with AI

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Four and more plumbing companies, HVAC companies, they're just vibe coding.
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The mistake people are making is that they're building AI for their team members and themselves.
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Whereas what you should be doing is building AI for AI.
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You can build a website with AI.
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You can go check out my vibe coded website, servicegamage.com.
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So this was built on quad?
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Yeah, this is crazy.
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You don't need this anymore.
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You don't need a market.
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Just go do it yourself.
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What can AI build today that like is surprising you?
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Yeah, I think the thing that's surprising me is okay.
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Welcome back to Owned and Operated a Top 150 Business and Entrepreneurship Podcast.
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On this show, we talk about how to grow your home service company, how to buy them, how to market, how to just do all the cool shit.
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I'm your host, John Wilson.
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And during the day, I run a four-location home service company out of Ohio.
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And for funsies, I talk to my friends on this podcast about home service.
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Today I'm rejoined on the show by my good friend Sam Preston, the CEO of Service Scalers.
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And today we're talking vibe coding.
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Welcome back to the show.
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John, what is vibe coding?
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Vibecoding is when you're coding on a vibe.
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I'm gonna go get on Chat GPT or Claude or Lovable maybe a year ago, and I'm just gonna put together a program that I have no business having the ability to code.
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That's vibe coding.
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Gotta have that right.
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Like that perfect Spotify playlist that just kind of gets you in a trance.
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It's late at night.
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Get your code on.
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In the dark.
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Totally.
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Just vibing.
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Yeah.
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Just going.
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Yeah, you're just vibing.
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Um, but yeah, that's vibe coding.
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Uh it became more and more of a thing.
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Um obviously, like uh as time has gone on and like AI has become more and more like out there.
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What's been really fun is like we've had uh I don't I don't know, like five or uh ten events this year just like at our office, and consistently more and more like plumbing companies, HVAC companies are lit, they're just fucking vibe coding.
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Like they're just out there like making shit.
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And it is the funniest, it's just the funniest thing.
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I'm imagining someone from like like a tech bro from San Francisco like walking into this group of plumbers, and like all of the plumbers are just like here's the four, here's the last four things we shipped, and it's it's I don't know, dude.
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It's it's funny.
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It's a funny time to be in the trades.
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It really is.
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Like websites used to be and still are, you know, relatively a difficult thing to do.
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But if you have just enough patience and a little bit of claw, chat GPT experience, you can go create something pretty amazing.
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Um, and you don't need to spend uh tens of thousands of dollars on a developer or an agency to go build you out a massive website.
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Uh you can just go do it.
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Yeah, that is kind of wild.
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I mean, we we did uh we worked with you guys a couple years ago to do our programmatic.
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And like, is anybody building that big, like a 10,000 page site like vibe coded?
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Like, is that a thing?
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Or like are we not there yet?
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I haven't done 10,000 pages.
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Could RotoRooter go rebuild their website tomorrow?
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Vibe coded?
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Like that I guess that's the question.
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Like, so so Roto Rooter could do that.
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Yeah.
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RotoRuler, if you're a bigger company right now, national brand, you absolutely should be trying to get as many pages out there as possible.
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Um and to to try to expand uh as much as possible, because you absolutely can.
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Um and so, but no, the biggest the biggest site we've done so far was a 200-page site locally.
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Um so it wasn't for like this national brand, just like one you know, small little company uh that one is in coverage.
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And so, but most of the ones we're doing right now are probably between like 50 and 100 pages.
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Yeah, over the past, so this has come up a lot.
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We've actually had a couple like uh group sessions on it, and you said you had some internal company meetings on it, which honestly we do not do, but I I really like the idea of.
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Um but we've been creating a ton of shit on the back of AI, and I'm curious like how you guys are thinking about like what what are you vibe coding?
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I think we're supposed to be talking about websites specifically, but I just think in general, I a lot of people a lot of people, yeah.
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I'm going off script.
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Uh John told me I was allowed.
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So yeah, I think I think a lot of people are um just like wondering, like, hey, what can I what can I do here?
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What can I like code or put together?
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Um so I'll give some examples from what we've done.
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Uh, but I also think like we can give a philosophy on how to think about it.
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Uh so we rebuilt our fleet software, um, and we got into this mindset, and you actually said this off camera, and it was something like what was your you have this build meeting.
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Can you want to talk about what the build meeting is?
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Because I want to pick on one idea.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So uh on a weekly basis, we have a uh we have a meeting called the build, and it's broken into three different pillars.
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One is how much work can we automate?
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Like how much can we just have AI do for us?
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Uh think like admin work, think like small like things that someone is just like literally dragging and dropping.
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We don't need that anymore.
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We can just literally have that.
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So our team is focused on strategy versus admin.
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So pillar number two is uh how do we never hire another human again?
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Uh obviously we will be hiring more people.
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Uh, but the idea is like you either are going to prove out that you can't do it with AI and you're gonna hire somebody, or you're just gonna do it with AI.
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Uh, and then pillar number three is how do we take our external software costs and bring them internal?
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Uh we were just spending$1,500 a month on uh an out, uh a third-party like dashboard marketing dashboard uh agency or uh software, and we've now just pulled that in-house.
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So it's$1,500 a month more in my pocket.
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Yeah, so the so what we've been focusing on is uh that.
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So like those last two, as we've like approached the software market, we're really just like, hey, does this thing provide if it's more than I don't know, let's say$5,000 a year, we consider bit building it ourselves.
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Uh 5,000 of like subscription subscription cost, which I was talking to, I was uh so we're interviewing for CFOs right now.
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And um what has been really interesting is we run this discipline.
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We called it uh we c we we call it a fuck up list.
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So again, this is why I'm explicit on Apple, guys.
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I don't know, I don't know.
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But uh so we call it a fuck up list.
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We're like, we're gonna go fuck up those costs, like we're gonna go negotiate that software vendor, whatever.
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And uh, but I found out there's actually a formal name for this, which is called a cost out list.
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Uh and I was like, oh, that's my fuck up list, is what I said.
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I was like, I was like, no, you no, no, no, no, you misnamed it.
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Um so apparently that's a formal thing.
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It's called a cost out, which makes total sense.
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And what was really interesting is I was the guys I were I was interviewing are like uh like they're eligible for CFO, so like you know, talented individuals working in much larger businesses.
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Like one was like 900 million, and one was like a PE firm with like billions of revenue.
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They're running a cost out structure, and at any given time they track, hey, here's like 50 things that we could save money on.
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Uh maybe it's 50, maybe it's 100, maybe it's 20.
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And then they just prioritize it by the amount of money they can save.
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And what was all that to say, what was really interesting is in my mind, I have a I have a mental list, and it's probably like a million freaking dollars of shit.
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Like it's always so much money, it's kind of insane.
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Uh, but they track all the way down to$5,000.
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And that was an almost a billion dollar business, and they're tracking cost outs down to$5,000, which I thought that was pretty interesting.
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Um, all that to say, if it's if it's more than five grand a year to pay for a subscription, we are strongly considering building it ourselves.
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So the very first thing we did was a fleet management software to track repairs and mileage and VINs and like uh repair tickets and uh because everything we looked for on the market that was gonna cost us 20 grand for our size of a fleet, and 20 grand to like basically for a souped up spreadsheet sounded insane.
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Right, right, yeah, yeah, that's insane.
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And so how much how much have you sold uh like saved total with replacing that?
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Like that well, we didn't have to buy a software, so 20 grand.
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Okay, okay, then what we started doing was we started looking for like we piloted a couple softwares, and I think this is part of the thing that's gets really powerful with it, is we tested a few softwares that had like very niche needs in our purchasing department or in like marketing, and when we couldn't find on market what we were looking for, we just went and made it.
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And like that that has been really powerful.
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Like, we made our own marketing dashboard to track attribution because we've been doing it manually on Google Sheets for two years.
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Um, so yeah, like but so you can ship a lot of different stuff.
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Uh, I mean, as simple as like I I have like my own little dashboard that I've built out because Stripe is terrible at telling you, uh projecting what you're actually going to make over the next couple months.
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And so I built my own little dashboard where it takes in all of our financials and then just projects, like, hey, based on this, based on what you did last year, based on your current growth month, this is where you'll be in a couple months.
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Love that.
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Um, and it's just something that Stripe as great of a company is, just does not do that for us.
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I like the build meeting philosophy.
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I think we're probably gonna add that into our business.
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So that was really good.
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So it's like, hey, what can we automate?
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How do we prevent employment creep?
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And how do we remove current items from our PL?
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Um, I like that a lot.
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So that honestly, that should probably like we should just end the episode there because that's probably like the most valuable.
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Yeah, I think there's so much stuff.
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Um, like you can start automating permits, you can start automating down payments, FPA, like financial analysis, uh, like what you just said.
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Like you should be, I should be able to download transaction history and say, hey, give me a budget.
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So you should be able to reduce your FPA time, which like FPNA software is like three grand a month.
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So what can AI build today that like is surprising you?
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Yeah, I think the thing that's surprising me is uh the the mistake people are making is that they're building AI for their team members and themselves.
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And I think that's the biggest mistake.
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Um, whereas what you should be doing is building AI for AI, right?
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Like, why do you care uh in a lot of ways how the sauce is made as long as the sauce gets to you?
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Um, and so the way we're thinking about it in in so many ways, where uh you would normally have uh a task done sent to an employee to then like do the task.
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But like, how do we how do we take that task and it just like skips that part where it goes to doing the task and then just goes to approval?
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So somebody's just reviewing it to make sure it's done correctly.
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Um, because I mean obviously the FOD does hallucinate.
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These these engines will, uh my sister's actually with her company, uh, it had basically been just creating random data in their CRM, just blasting out, and literally like six months later, they thought they had all this data and it was just a complete lie.
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Uh, so you do have to check it.
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You have to figure out the failed safes there.
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Um, but I think the biggest mistake people are thinking of with AI is like, how do I get an employee involved in that versus like how do I take it from like end to end done?
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Uh and then if you want a human approval, get to that human approval, that's fine.
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Uh, but how much can we just like take off instead of displaying this for instead of displaying the data and the content for human eyes, how do we display it for AI eyes?
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I I think it's been it's been honestly.
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So I went down this experiment like maybe a month ago because we were I was trying to figure out we have a pain point inside our business, and the pain point is like our time to get a permit is too long, and it slows down revenue.
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So we're like, okay, this is an acute pain point.
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There's a revenue outcome tied to this, so like we do have to get this right, we have to solve this problem because this is becoming a bottleneck.
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So we um so I I get on chat GT, and I I try to go do the same thing.
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So I get on Chat GPT or Claud or one of them.
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I'm like, hey, I want to build out this process, like, how do I do it?
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And it it was pretty interesting because the way I imagined it going was I want to record a screen of this process happening, and then I want to input that recording, or maybe like a transcription of the recording, into the LLM, and then the LLM spit out like here's the steps, and then I take those steps and I turn that into an agent, I guess.
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And so that was sort of like how I was imagining solving it, and for some reason it didn't like that, and I don't remember why.
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Like the LLM didn't like that, but I do think I agree with you, you can figure out just how to completely remove friction uh from the business.
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Like I think purchasing um a big one is like data entry and accounting right now.
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We're trying to figure out data entry and accounting.
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Uh, because we bought three businesses so far this year, we're about to buy our fourth, and like accounting just got very, very complicated, uh, which is good.
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Like, we're doing a good job, we're growing, all that stuff, whatever, we're figuring it out.
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But I do think like we could remove so much friction just by automating like job costing.
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You know, that feels like a very like A to B task.
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Yeah, so my my encouragement as far as how like one of the things that we're doing when we build stuff uh is obviously the problem with the the accounting thing or just like the numbers things that I was just talking about is they you know, Cloud will hallucinate, so it will just agree with itself and give you numbers.
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One of the biggest things that you data when we're when we're doing like websites, one of the things it wants to change, I don't know why, but it wants to change phone number.
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Um, and so uh you know, we built out like uh a little design for uh someone to go print out uh stuff for their GVP so they can get their um location verified.
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Um and stupidly I just didn't check the phone number.
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I was like, oh, everything else looks so good.
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And we know we by coded, we had the design.
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I didn't have to get a designer involved, which was epic.
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Uh and then the phone number was uh like the last uh last um seven digits were off.
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So the first three were on.
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I was like, okay, cool, this is great.
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I sent it over to him and was like, this is great, but the wrong phone number was like, damn, why?
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Um and so that happens a couple things.
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So when you're doing accounting, the thing I would tell you to do is get both Codex and Claude Code in it.
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So if you don't know, Codex is ChatGPT's Claude Code version, uh, and you can actually have it work together in the same uh terminal.
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So when I'm coding something that's big or inside of our new operating systems, I basically have it both build out a plan and then cloud takeover to combine those plans together and then go build it and then both have to QA it uh before it can spin it out and push it to live situations.
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Uh obviously, we want to avoid situations where we take things down, we want to avoid security issues, we want to avoid so many different things.
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So having both of them play out works really well for us.
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And I think in something like an accounting for four different businesses, you would want both to check each other.
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That is good.
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Um let's get back to building websites.
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So like you can build a website with AI.
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Yeah, yeah, you don't need you don't you don't need us anymore.
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You don't need a marketing agent, just go do it yourself.
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What what do you think like the big benefit is here?
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Because I would imagine like maybe SEO, but I I I almost feel like the cooler thing of like developing like websites with AI is you can just do faster landing pages.
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So like if I'm running meta ads or if I'm running Google ads or whatever ad I'm running, I can just go like test a bunch of landing pages and iterate really fast.
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And that feels like the best use of this technology, or like what do you think?
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Yeah, I know that's that's a great one, right?
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Just uh because offers are generally the thing that's gonna help with you know meta working correctly is by having multiple different offers.
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And so if you can test ad design creatives uh as fast as you can test landing pages, like that's pretty cool.
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Um, the other thing is like locations.
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Like people, you know, historically when they've come to us or any other marketing agency and they're like, hey, we want to build out this website.
00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:37.599
Well, how many locations do you want?
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Well, I want I want all the locations.
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Well, that's gonna be a hundred grand, which is you know, that's expensive.
00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:43.440
Okay, cool.
00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:45.200
Well, like, no, let's just do seven.
00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:49.200
Now it's like, well, what are the locations you want to be that you're at right now?
00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:51.440
And then where do you see yourself in three years?
00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:53.279
So that we can start building out those locations.
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What if we start driving leads from a location that you weren't like ready for because the market isn't as saturated in that one city, you know, two doors down.
00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:05.759
So uh I think that's a really cool uh aspect of it.
00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:10.720
Um as far as like content, you can create a lot of really good, unique content.
00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:17.039
Uh, one of the things I'm playing around with my uh my own is like a personality to our content.
00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:26.799
Um, and so like you can create like a, you know, uh the way you want to sound, the way you want to come across uh very uniquely.
00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.119
Um, and I think that's really cool.
00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:31.920
Um, yeah, there's there's a lot that you can do.
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Website.
00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:39.279
Website also, it's like you've you've kind of been, you know, I remember, man, 10 years ago I built a website with an agency.
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This is before I owned my own agency.
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One of the reasons why I got into it.
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Uh it was a$30,000 website, and man, it was just so bad.
00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:48.079
Like the design was just rough.
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Um it was a home, uh, it was a uh commercial office um supply business, like furniture business.
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So like desks and stuff like that.
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They made it like dark gothic black.
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I don't know what happened.
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And I was just stuck with it.
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Um, and if I wanted to change it, I had to spend more money.
00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:09.599
Like now, it's like, okay, well, like if I don't like it, I just keep working with claw design.
00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:14.480
I just give it more examples uh to come up with um for websites.
00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:17.279
Uh and that's I mean, quite frankly, that's what we're doing on the back end now.
00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:20.880
We don't sell, we used to sell on top of like WordPress or Webflow right now.
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We're we don't do that anymore.
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Um, we're just coding those uh designs exactly the way you would want and giving it to you uh to choose from which you know design direction you're gonna go, and then we're building out the back end for it.
00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:36.400
So um this is I mean literally what we're doing.
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You could just do it yourself if you want to.
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It's yeah, it's interesting to see how fast um we did yeah, we did this huge SEO project like two or three years ago, and we're trying to figure out what to do now.
00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:34.640
Because when we did that project, we went from like uh a small website.
00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:37.680
Well, we went from like a scorpion website, because we had Scorpion.
00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:39.599
Uh this was like four years ago.
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And we went from a Scorpion website to like uh programmatic, which uh like service area, I think I don't know, we had like thousands of pages.
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It was crazy.
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And like that worked and that really propelled us for a few years, but now like the big gap that we have is we're on Webflow.
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And web flow is really good for programmatic and like massively deploying content.
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One of the downsides is you run into a limit on the number of pages and we hit that limit.
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And um, so we haven't been able to do any more.
00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:16.559
So then the big challenge is like, okay, well, what do we do now?
00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:25.920
Because we have Nashville and we have two businesses in Fort Wayne, and we have Medina, and we have so like we have a lot going on, and we're gonna do more.
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And we're planning on rebranding all to one singular brand.
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How do we do it?
00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:37.440
So this is like an active discussion that Jesse and I are having of like, okay, well, hey, we're capped on Webflow.
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Like, what do we do?
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Do we rebuild a website again?
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Do we do all this again?
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Like it's 10,000 pages or 8,000 pages or whatever the fuck it is.
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And uh yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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100%.
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So, like, have you migrated?
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Let's go.
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Yeah, have yeah, yeah.
00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:55.519
Let's get a couple beers.
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So, have you migrated a site from Webflow or something to like how would you handle a site like our?
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I don't even know how you'd do that.
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Like, it's so big.
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Because there's so many URLs you don't want to lose any of them.
00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:16.720
Uh, you don't want to lose any important ones, you know, if you got a bunch of them that are.
00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:17.440
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:19.119
Yeah, if it's getting traffic, yeah.
00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:25.119
I mean, out of like 10,000 pages, it's probably like 200 pages that like get real traffic.
00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:26.640
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:29.920
Um, and so I mean the first thing you want to do is you want to crawl your site.
00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:31.680
Um you can use Screaming Frog.
00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:33.759
There's plenty of different softwares that you can go use.
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Uh, and then you want to scrape together.
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What's it called?
00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:38.640
Screaming Frog.
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Um Really?
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That's the name.
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Okay.
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It's actually a nice little software.
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Uh, but it'll crawl your site and kind of break it down to like this is your like every page on your site uh that you've got.
00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:51.519
Okay.
00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:54.240
Um and from there you want to build out your your site map.
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So all the URLs that you have, uh, all the uh every single page and figure out what that site map actually looks like.
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:14.160
Um and then you want to probably run that through some kind of like uh SEO software uh to figure out how much traffic each page is getting.
00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:16.880
Uh some pages are gonna get a lot, some get a little.
00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:24.079
Um, and then you just the first thing you would do is make sure that there are no pages that uh you don't want to lose out on, right?
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Like it would just be horrible if we did.
00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:39.759
When you are migrating, the the thing to think about to keep as much of that traffic as possible is keep the content as this as similar as possible, keep the H1 tag exactly the same, and then keep the URL the same.
00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:46.240
If you do that, those three things, you generally don't see a big dip um in traffic.
00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:53.119
So uh Screaming Frog is also gonna uh pull in uh any any pages that you are having trouble with.
00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:58.480
Uh you can do a lot of cleanup, some redirects, uh lots of things that you can kind of get rid of.
00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:03.440
Um and then the next thing I'm gonna have you do is build out a design guide.
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:13.119
So basically, you know, that really expensive uh uh creative work that you would go and uh get from a design company.
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:15.920
You can now work with Claude to actually build one of those.
00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:18.240
Uh I've got one I can send you that gives you a couple of things.
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Here's the like websites that we find inspirational or whatever.
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Is that how that works?
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:28.480
Uh no, more like this is my colors, this is my topography, this is my messaging, this is who I want to be.
00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:28.799
Okay.
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:30.240
So like your brand game.
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You know.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Uh make sure you swear, but make sure it's tasteful.
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You know, things like that.
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Um yeah.
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Don't say fuck, only say shit.
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Got it.
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Only, yes.
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So uh as much of that as possible.
00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:47.440
You want to get down because once you're building at scale, like you can't what?
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:49.599
Yeah.
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:53.920
John just like John just gave me like quite the look.
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He's like really new.
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They flip you off.
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This is why we can't this is why we can't have nice things.
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This is why we're explicit on Apple.
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:04.079
All right, sorry.
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:06.400
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.839
So get that uh that site map, get that brand guide.
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:19.759
Um, and then uh the next thing I would think you should do is I should I think you build out a custom coded site uh that you're gonna have on GitHub.
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.880
Um so we're moving away from WordPress and Webflow.
00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:32.319
And one of the biggest reasons why is because it's just useless code that's in between your code and a consumer, and it just slows down your website.
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:42.960
Um and then I would start having having the team build out all the pages, uh, making sure that it's uh based off of obviously you have a lot more locations now.
00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:48.160
Um and uh you get yourself a pretty awesome website pretty quickly.
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:50.559
Um I would 100% do that.
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:52.480
There's so many different things you can do.
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:54.720
Yeah, that's really that is interesting.
00:26:54.880 --> 00:27:03.279
I need to get back into um honestly, I haven't looked at it that much for like the last year.
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:20.720
I mean, obviously, I like Jesse's running it, but like I I ran the like project three, four years ago, and then these these days it just hasn't been top priority, but like it's becoming top priority because we're prepping to do a rebrand, we're prepping to like add all these new location pages, we're prepping to like redo all the GMBs.
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:31.119
I think we have like or GBPs, I think we have like 25 GBPs now, like across the platform, and we're just like doing a big sort of re-smash.
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:38.319
Um, and but website has become a bigger and bigger topic because we're literally out of location pages, so we have to figure it out.
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:48.720
How how do you think um I have not been paying attention at all to like what the larger agencies like serve uh what's Scorpion?
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:53.440
Like, are they still doing like two blog posts or like what are they doing here?
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:55.039
That's a great question.
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.839
I honestly I've been so heads down, I've not been paying attention.
00:27:58.000 --> 00:27:58.480
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:00.079
Uh I hope not.
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:02.480
But my yeah, yeah.
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:08.079
Like two years ago, I was selling like talking about this podcast, going like, look, we're doing 10 articles a month.
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:09.039
Like, that's so cool.
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:11.119
That's like table stakes now.
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:12.640
Yeah, yeah.
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:15.599
Well, you'd imagine, but it somehow they still get contract.
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:17.279
It's kind of honestly incredible.
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:22.400
Um, I think they just like have the franchise relationships or something.
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:24.240
I don't I don't know.
00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:27.839
I mean, I would imagine that they would be under stress.
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:31.920
I would I I would have to imagine that they're under strain.
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:33.759
Um, yeah.
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:48.960
I feel like the big agency are really gonna struggle because they can't move as quickly as we can, and they are going to be more nervous on using something like this, you know, kind of like Amazon had such a big problem with Claude uh because they brought it in.
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:53.200
Developers were just using it uh and they start having issues with it.
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.720
So um they have you know pulled back the type of usage.
00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:01.680
Now the great thing about us is we're smaller, so we can test things really quickly, see if things work.
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:09.039
I'm like in those rooms having those conversations on a weekly basis directly with the people that are seeing the results inside of the marketing.
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:11.440
Uh, and so like it's just a smaller team.
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:17.039
Um, and so it's scarier when you're working with like such a large company uh and such a large team.
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.400
So I don't I wouldn't even know if they were using it at this point.
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:26.319
Uh whereas like on our end, we're like, how do we get each one of our team members uh achieved a staff?
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:29.599
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:33.279
So what do you think like a one million dollar company should be doing today with this?
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:34.720
I've got some thoughts.
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.480
Yeah, I mean, one million dollar company, 100%.
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:44.079
You know, it obviously just depends on your time and where you're at, but like you should definitely have a website.
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:49.519
Like even if it's just a one-page website, go use one of the uh the cheap tools to go build that.
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:55.599
Um, you can also, I mean, we we have a pretty uh low-cost offer at this point for it.
00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:02.480
Um, but you can you can go do this yourself um and see where you're driving traffic.
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:07.519
I think I mentioned I've got kind of like a secret project on the side where I'm trying to build a uh a home service business.
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.759
I haven't mentioned what it is yet, but uh and uh it's been up since April.
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:16.079
I've one of us of my own one of us, one of us.
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:22.799
Uh I threw up a website and doing SEO and GvP, and I'm like, you know, 45 days in.
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:24.960
I've got five leads so far.
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:27.599
Um, and so pumped about that.
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:38.880
And I probably couldn't make too much too many more at this point, but like, you know, this is you know, vibe coding at night, just a little goblin uh working, trying to get traffic through it to it.
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:48.079
What do you uh I I think something that's interesting, it feels like I mean it feels a lot like a decade ago.
00:30:48.240 --> 00:31:02.240
It's like a transformative moment where this is a moment that uh scrappy companies can beat legacy, uh, which like I'm on b both sides of.
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:11.839
Like, we want to be the scrappy company, uh, but I also like have to acknowledge that like hey, like we might be legacy or we might be approaching legacy, right?
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.960
So like a scrappy company could meaningfully compete.
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:20.079
And I think the smaller you start, like, how do you get rid of some of the base function?
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:25.440
Um like some of the use cases I've seen, people building purchasing softwares.
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:28.640
Uh I've seen a lot of like estimation softwares.
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:32.240
Um, like, hey, easier flat rate type things.
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:42.400
Um, I'm seeing some uh like bill.com replacements, but I think the way you should be thinking about it is like, hey, what work can you take off yourself as a small business owner?
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:44.559
What work can you take off your team completely?
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:45.440
What can you automate?
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:46.640
What can you get rid of?
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:49.519
Um, and then what cost can you cut?
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:56.799
Because I do think uh for better or worse, like customer acquisition is becoming more and more expensive.
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:01.680
So if you want to scale, like you have to be able to scale your customer acquisition, like your marketing.
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:10.319
So the more you can cut out of unnecessary costs like fleet software that you can just go make in an hour, like the better.
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:14.880
Because then the more dollars you can shove at customer acquisition.
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:18.799
And I like the next question was like, what would a$10 million company do today?
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:20.880
And I think it's basically the same thing.
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:23.839
You just get more power from it.
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:32.799
I I know for us, like we're driving mid 20% EBITDA margins right now, and that's very high for the industry.
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:40.640
And I think a big part of why we're having that success is because of how much we are deploying into automation and AI.
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:48.880
I just think we are trying to like bite-size it, like, hey, let's do this task, let's do this task, let's look at this position, let's look at this.
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:53.279
Um, like we haven't done like a massive overhaul of really anything.
00:32:53.599 --> 00:33:00.079
Yeah, so if you're a one million dollar company, um, you should be trying to figure out how do you like not go take on a bunch of costs that you don't need to.
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:05.920
Again, like I built out a little proposal design, I told Claude what I wanted to come out with.
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:22.240
And then when you're at the uh, you know, the prospect's house, I'm taking photos of it, I'm uploading it, I'm using my voice to dictate, hey, this is what I want to see on the proposal, and that's giving me basically a custom proposal for that person I can just send to them, you know, instead of spending$60 a month.
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.079
That's what you're doing if you're uh a million-dollar business, your smaller business, right?
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:30.559
Yeah, if you're a$10 million business, you're hiring somebody.
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:39.599
And their job is to either make you more money or cut costs by what they're able to implement via AI.
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:43.519
And that's it's it's an easy ROI at that point.
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:48.000
It's like figure out your biggest cost basis, uh, all those uh, what'd you call it?
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:48.960
Not the fuck list.
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:49.519
What's the cost?
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:50.640
Oh, my cost outs?
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:51.279
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:52.079
Yeah, cost outs.
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:57.200
Yeah, find all your cost outs and then have them just tackle that as quickly as possible.
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.359
Uh, and then go do the opposite.
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:04.400
Like, where where else are you not, you know, tackling something because you've been limited?
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:08.159
Um, you know, where are, you know, where are you slow and speed the lead?
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.480
Okay, well, let's start automating that to get faster.
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:12.320
Are you having issues with leads?
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.599
Go, you know, figure out what where you can deploy AI to get more.
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Um, that's that to me is the name of the game.
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Homeowners want your services, but they do need a better way to pay for it.
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And I'm hearing more and more contractors talking about Comfort Connect.
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Comfort Connect gives your team access to powerful payment options all in one place.
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It includes traditional financing, lease-to-own options, and their premiere program, which bundles everything from equipment, maintenance, and covered repairs with ongoing support all wrapped into one predictable monthly payment for the customer.
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Contractors using the platform are seeing higher close rates, bigger average sales, and stronger long-term customer retention because homeowners stay connected to their brand long after installs.
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So stop treating financing like an afterthought and start using payment options your customers need as a part of your sales strategy.
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In in the old days, a 10% net profit business was like good.
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And 15 was great.
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And I think what this does is this allows 20 to be good and 25 to be great.
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And I think that we're gonna start seeing you think you can get to 25?
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That's where we are.
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No way.
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Yeah, yeah, 25% EBITDA.
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Yeah.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah, it's ridiculous.
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Yeah, but um, yeah, I think uh I I think like it should change your expectations for like what's possible.
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Yeah.
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Sweet.
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:42.960
Well, honestly, like this conversation was really good.
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This helped me a lot.
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I'm gonna talk to Jesse about uh like our website because we were yeah, we were having this conversation last week on like what do we do because we're trying to like figure out how to add in all these other locations, and it is like a it's a thing, and we're a little you know, obviously concerned about disrupting our current site.
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Yeah, I mean, uh have Jesse reach out to me and him and I can jump on a call and just kind of talk him through how I would do it, and I'm happy to talk him through exactly what to do because uh it it's it's one of those things where you should do it.
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Um I think you'll see.
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So like I'm sure other people are too.
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And then they're also starting to run contractor ads on Chat GPT now.
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So like we're trying to figure that out.
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So like we yeah, we're trying to and we have to add these new locations.
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So it's kind of like one big project of like we got to put this all together.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Sweet, man.
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All right, if people want to learn more, what should they do?
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Google my uh and then check out yeah, what were you gonna say?
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I was gonna say you can go check out my vibe coded uh website, servicecalers.com.
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Uh oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Did you put on there like, we vibe coded this?
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I don't know, we should though.
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That is that would be funny.
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Oh, dude, this is.
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The greatest part about it is like the person that did this had no experience in Claude before I had them do it.
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And I was like, okay, let me just walk you through it.
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Yeah, they did it.
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Right?
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That is really interesting.
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So this was built on Claude.
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Yeah.
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And probably a little bit of Chat GPT, and uh, we're we're pushing it out to uh again, GitHub as your repo and then hosting it.
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This is crazy.
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Yeah, and honestly, like it's it's kind of like it was got it it was pushed live last week and we spent like two weeks on it.
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Yeah like it needs a lot more, but we just were like tired of the website that we had and like let's just get something up.
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Wow.
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Okay, yeah, this is amazing.
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This is amazing.
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This is really cool.
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All right, uh yeah, check out servicescalers.com.
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Uh that is an example of a vibe coded website.
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That's fucking awesome.
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Cool.
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Um, well, uh if you like what you heard, make sure you give us five stars.
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Like us, sub, and comment below whatever you're shipping.
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I'm really curious what other people are working on inside their business.
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Thanks, everybody.
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Let's see ya.