Why Chronic Disease Skipped Your Great Grandparents but Not You | Dr. Ben Edwards

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My nurse prac had celiac disease and grabbed a breakfast burrito, a drug rep had brought, started eating it right in front of me.
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He was totally fine.
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So what did he do exactly?
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Because this is amazing.
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We really were designed to be well.
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So we just learned a new way, a better way, like your ancestors did.
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What if managing disease isn't the same as restoring health?
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Ben, welcome to the show.
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So you grew up watching your grandfather serve whole communities as a small time doctor's.
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So what did they understand about healing that modern medicine has mostly forgotten?
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Thank you, James, for having me on the podcast.
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My granddad's, I'll never forget one day in particular when I told him, hey, I'm going to follow in your footsteps.
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I want to be a small town country doctor like y'all.
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And my granddad pulled me aside and said, be sure to keep all your psychology books from medical school.
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because these folks are going to use you as a counselor.
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And that's honestly what they need.
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They need someone to listen more than anything, a shoulder to cry on, encouragement, just a listening ear.
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And that always stuck with me.
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You know, they were allopathic, but allopathic medicine used to be a little different before insurance kind of took over and the pharma industry took over.
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So they still had that bedside manner, the relationship.
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Obviously, in a small town, you're delivering these babies.
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You're taking care of these kids all the way through school until they're adults having their own babies.
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You're a generational physician, so you get to know the families.
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You get to know the socioeconomic factors, the different social factors involved in family dynamics and all that.
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So that always stuck with me.
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And actually, that's kind of what made me want to go to medical school is watching these two guys impact the community in ways beyond medicine, obviously.
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There were community leaders at church, civic organizations, school boards, stuff like that.
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And they're just a great influence.
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And so that really spoke volumes to me.
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That's why I went to med school.
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Honestly, I didn't think I was smart enough to get into med school.
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So undergrad, I tried to run away from this call to medicine.
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I changed my major five times.
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I just came up with every excuse in the world.
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I don't want to get in that much debt.
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I don't want to be in school that much longer.
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I don't think I'm smart enough.
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Medicine was kind of starting to change.
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This was about 1998, you know, with HMOs and all that stuff.
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But I just couldn't find anything else that satisfied.
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You know, I thought about all different careers and just nothing really resonated.
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So I went to UT Houston Medical School and graduated from there in 2002, which is a great institution of higher education as far as conventional medicine goes.
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I mean, MD Anderson is there in the medical center that I trained in.
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I did most of my rotations at MD Anderson and considered one of the top cancer hospitals in the conventional world.
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So, you know, I thought I learned everything there was to know to help people.
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I went to Waco Family Practice Residency.
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I was chief resident there.
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I felt pretty, like, well-equipped to go out to that small town in West Texas and be that country doctor like my granddad's and did that for seven years.
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What did it feel like, though, when you were in Garza County?
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Did it feel like you'd become the doctor you always wanted to be?
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It really did.
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Yeah.
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Because I got married third year med school.
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We had our first baby in residency.
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So we moved to that small town, you know, pretty newlywed, one baby, one year old baby.
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And we just started and then had more kids.
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So raising a family.
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small town Friday night football game, you know, going to the little church there, little grocery store.
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I mean, it's just a little community.
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You see everybody always saying hi to everybody.
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Everybody knows everybody.
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Just like that quintessential small town feel.
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I was making house calls.
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You know, I was taking care of the little old ladies in the nursing home.
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I was the doctor for the county jail, you know, the high school football games, all that stuff.
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So it really was kind of living my dream.
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It was really cool.
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But, you know, seven years of that and towards the end of that seven years, kind of the grinds setting in because just the pressure of the system, especially in a small town.
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Most small towns, socioeconomically a little lower.
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So a lot of Medicaid, Medicare as your payer.
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There's some private insurance, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, but not much.
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There wasn't a lot of industry there.
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But anyways, so you're not getting paid a lot per visit.
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The way to keep the doors open and to pay your staff and to pay yourself is more visits.
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So 40 to 50 visits a day, it's all about volume.
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Also in that system, you get paid for procedures is what it's called.
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There's either an office visit.
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That's when you just talk to your doctor about your disease, acid reflux, diabetes, asthma, whatever.
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You're just talking about it and getting a prescription.
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That's an office visit.
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A procedure, you're doing something with your hands.
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And it can be as simple as I'm picking earwax out of your ear so you can hear better.
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There's actually a diagnosis code for that, a procedure code.
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You use your hands to do something.
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Well, procedure codes, you know, cutting off a wart, burning off of whatever, a skin cancer, pulling an ingrown toenail.
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These are minor procedures, but they're still set in a broken bone.
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That's a bigger procedure, sutures.
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You do enough procedures, procedures pay more.
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So you learn.
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If I do more procedures and I do a lot of office visits and volume, volume, volume, 40 to 50 visits a day and you make it work.
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So I've been doing that because they train you to do that.
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You have to do that.
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In fact, there's a journal article in the journal Medical Economics.
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I'll never forget it.
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Because I would read that.
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To make it in a small town county clinic with Medicaid payer, you have to be efficient.
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And so I'd read that medical economics journal to know the business side of medicine.
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And one of the articles said, here's a tip to improve your efficiency is have your nurse get some duct tape and just put duct tape on the ground coming out of the office and make a little path to the next exam room.
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And don't get out of that duct tape line, meaning don't go chit chat and socialize at the nurse's station or go use a bathroom even.
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Focus room to room to room to room.
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You know, it sounds crazy, but it really, that was a tip in the medical.
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I've been to clinics like that.
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I've seen diagrams on the ground telling you where to go.
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When was the moment that you realized this isn't enough?
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Because this doesn't sound sustainable.
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It's not.
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And I mean, I was young and, you know, you're gung-ho and you're motivated and you just want to go, you know, cure everybody in the world.
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But that system will wear you down.
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So I was getting worn down five, six years into it.
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I'm like, man, this volume and no one's getting better.
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That was a big thing.
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Nobody's getting well.
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I'm never deprescribing.
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I'm only prescribing more, higher doses and adding more meds because the other, you know, the previous meds just not cutting it anymore.
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Yeah.
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So that was in my head of, man, this is just kind of tough.
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And the insurance model, you just got to chart everything just right and fill out the bill just right or it gets rejected.
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So now you're dealing with all the rejected invoices and the business side.
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So it is heavy.
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I didn't know there's any other way.
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I'm like, this is just how it is.
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This is modern medicine.
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The United States, we're the best.
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Blah, blah, blah is what I thought at the time.
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Seven years into this, my nurse practitioner at the time who I'd hired to help me because I was so busy, he went to a bed and breakfast one weekend in Amarillo, Texas.
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We're in Lubbock.
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So Amarillo is 90 miles north.
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He went for a weekend getaway with his wife.
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My nurse practitioner had celiac disease.
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Which means you can't eat gluten, and it's supposedly incurable.
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But anyways, he goes to the bed and breakfast, tells the lady, the innkeeper, who's going to cook breakfast, hey, I got celiac.
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I need a gluten-free pancake.
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And that lady said, okay, I'll cook that for you.
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She probably didn't know what gluten-free meant.
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She actually did, but she said, hey, you need to talk to this doctor here.
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He could cure you of that.
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Oh, yeah.
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Which that was crazy.
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I mean, you don't cure celiac.
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And that's what my nurse practice said.
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Whatever.
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I don't know what you're talking about.
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The lady kept pestering him.
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The doctor's office was in the bed and breakfast.
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And so to like get this lady off his back and to shut up, he said, let me go talk to this guy just to be polite.
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He spent four hours talking to his MD, PhD, but had turned holistic, nutrition-based.
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That doctor, in those four hours, so convinced that nurse practitioner of mine that he could restore his microbiome, because now we know there's 94 different strains of good bacteria that should reside in our gut that actually break down gluten, right?
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Stomach acid levels in the human stomach, the normal pH in the human stomach is a pH of 1 to 2.
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Battery acid is 1.5.
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You can't get more acidic than the human stomach, meaning you put gluten into battery acid, it's going to chop all those protein bonds down to amino acid building blocks.
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Okay.
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And it was stuff like this.
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This doctor was getting just real basic with physiology.
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Hey, you probably don't have enough stomach acid and your microbiome is shot.
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So you can't digest this gluten potentially.
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Why don't you try this?
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My nurse Pratt did what this doctor said to do, diet and lifestyle changes.
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In over three to four months, my nurse Pratt felt like his gut was healed.
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He didn't tell me any of this that he was doing initially.
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Um, but I just noticed, you know, just eyeballing the guy over these three to four months, man, something's going on with Shane.
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He just looks healthier.
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Just the vibe he's given his glow, his energy, his just vibe.
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And, and he's trimming up and he just, just had this, his complexion was better, everything.
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And then he comes to me one day and says, doc, you know,
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I got to tell you something.
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I think I cured my celiac.
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And of course I laugh at him.
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What are you talking about?
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Is it April Fool's?
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What's the deal?
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What do you mean?
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And he tells me the story.
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And I'm like, there's no way.
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There is no way.
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You can't cure that.
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And I mean, I kind of offended him.
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So he marched off to the break room and grabbed a breakfast burrito a drug rep had brought.
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He came right back to the nurse station, started eating it right in front of me.
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So that's
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A tortilla, gluten.
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He was so sensitive to gluten, he wouldn't even scrape the eggs off the tortilla and just eat the eggs because of cross-contamination.
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That's how sensitive he was.
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He ate that whole thing.
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At lunch, he goes to the burger joint in town and gets a hamburger, brings it back, eats it right in front of me.
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That afternoon, another drug rep had brought cookies and he ate it.
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Three glutens in one day normally would have completely wiped him out.
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Bloody stool, cramps, sick, fatigued, called in sick for work.
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He was totally fine.
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You know everyone's going to be wondering, like, so what did he do exactly?
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Look, start feeding your body what it really needs.
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What that nurse practice did was quit eating processed food for sure, number one.
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We've got to restore the microbiome and processed food kills the microbiome.
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We've got to restore the mitochondria, the energy factories of the cells of the body, but specifically in him, the cells that line the GI tract need to be super healthy, very efficient, meaning those mitochondria need to make ATP energy.
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And they need to make very little exhaust or free radicals.
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Because that mitochondria is just like in your vehicle.
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Fuel plus oxygen plus spark plug equals combustion, energy, heat, and exhaust.
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Out the tailpipe, the heat out of the radiator fan, and then energy to turn your wheels.
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It's the same in the human cell.
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Fuel, either fat or carb, can be burned by the mitochondria of fuel.
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Oxygen from what you breathe, which that's a whole other topic.
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People don't breathe good anymore.
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The spark plug is minerals.
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We're all demineralized because our food, because the soil has been demineralized.
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We don't eat enough salt.
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Okay.
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But in the human body, that's it.
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Fuel, spark plug, oxygen creates combustion, but the energy is ATP.
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That's the energy molecule in the cell.
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So the cell has energy to do its job.
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Like the lining of the gut, that has a certain job to do.
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And if it doesn't make enough energy, it can't do that job well.
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But the exhaust, those are free radicals.
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But you have antioxidant enzymes that go in there and grab those free radicals and deal with them.
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No problem.
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You hear about eating antioxidants.
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That's great.
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But you have an inborn system in you to deal with free radicals.
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It's called antioxidant enzymes.
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But the antioxidant enzyme system is shut down.
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by a number of things, but in particular, iron.
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Excessive iron from iron fortified foods, primarily the flour that we started sifting in the early 1900s to make white flour.
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We put all the all the nutrition's in the germ and the brand that got sent to the feedlot.
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This white flour was actually malnourishing and almost killing people, filling up the psychiatric hospitals because of various psychiatric diseases because of lack of B vitamins, because it was just white flour.
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Their B vitamins were going to the feedlot.
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Anyways, they started fortifying that grain, and one of the things was iron, but the type of iron they put in there is very pro-inflammatory to your gut cells and other cells in the body.
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But I digress.
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That excess iron shuts down your antioxidant enzyme system.
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But the bottom line...
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My nurse did some things to restore the mitochondria, restore the microbiome, restore the stomach acid levels.
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And it's real basic stuff.
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It's eat real food, take some probiotics and fermented food.
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I think he had a little excessive candida overgrowth, which is a bug in the gut, a fungus.
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It loves processed grain and sugar, and it will explode in population if that's what you feed it, which he was, and most Americans are.
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So we get imbalance in our gut microbes, and he was predominantly candida.
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So he did some anti-candida herbs to knock that down, and he brought back his good bugs and got diversity back and balance back in the microbiome.
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And so with stomach acid levels in a good microbiome, and he dealt with his leaky gut, he sealed that back up, then you can handle that wheat.
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Now, we know more these days about wheat, the glyphosate that gets sprayed on just people's wheat, that'll open up your tight junctions, kill your microbiome.
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And a lot of people will be gluten sensitive just because of that recipe of glyphosate plus the modern gluten.
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I mean, there's other things to consider.
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He couldn't just eat that hamburger and cookie and tortilla forever and probably remain good.
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You've got to maintain a healthy terrain and healthy microbiome and that processed food, if you do it all the time, will kill it.
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But anyways, that was the first event that opened my eyes of, wait a minute, which, of course, I tried to go, well, maybe this was just a one-off.
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Yeah, fluke or something, right?
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He didn't really have celiac.
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I actually called his dad to verify it because his dad was a doctor and the GI doctor when this nurse practice was a kid.
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And I verified it as true diagnosis.
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But then I thought, well, maybe it's just a miracle cure.
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God just healed a miracle.
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I believe there's still miracles.
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But my nurse practice saying no.
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No, I did some things.
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I created health and I got health because of what I was doing.
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So what I was faced with was the thought of, man, I witnessed this with my own eyes.
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I'm going to have another celiac patient come in someday through these doors of my clinic.
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What am I going to do?
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Am I going to say, eat gluten-free the rest of your life, see you later?
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Because that's what med school taught me to tell you.
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That's the standard of care that the Texas Medical Board requires I give you.
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Or am I going to say that and say, and there's this other option too that I learned about.
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It worked for my nurse prac.
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It may not work for you.
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I don't really understand it.
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Don't know anything about it really.
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But if you want to talk to him, you can.
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Was I going to give him two options?
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And I felt like morally and ethically, yeah, I need to do that.
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Just for celiac.
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Just if a celiac patient comes.
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But then I thought, well, okay, he's my nurse.
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Prack, he's under my license.
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I'm responsible.
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I got to call this.
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I got to know what he's doing in there.
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So I got to call this doctor.
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What did you teach him?
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Who are you?
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What's going on?
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I called that doctor and he blew my mind.
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He just let me have it.
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I basically said, who are you?
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What kind of quackery, hocus pocus, holistic stuff?
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Because remember, I'm totally allopathic.
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I don't even know what a chiropractor does at this point.
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I don't know about herbs, nutrition, zero.
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I know pharma only.
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And my thought was, and I think this is most doctors, when they cross that stage in medical school, get their white coat and their MD behind their name and their diploma and all that, they think...
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Medical school just taught me all there is to know to go help people in the world.
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There's an arrogance in that, and there's a lot of assumptions in that.
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And of course, that's dead wrong.
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I got two hours of nutrition and four years of medical school.
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But my mindset at that time is if any of this other stuff worked, they would have taught me in med school about it.
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So obviously it doesn't work.
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Because they didn't teach it to me.
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I mean, how naive.
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But that truly was my thinking.
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If a little old lady brought some herb in and said, hey, I read this is good for UTIs, I would have been polite about it.
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But I would have said, ma'am, I don't think it'll hurt you.
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But no, that's not going to work.
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That worked.
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I would have learned about it.
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I mean, that's what I thought.
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That mentality, though, obviously is still happening in the medical system, but it's also happening around people with food.
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You present to them, well, here's a very natural food.
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It's not overly processed.
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It's just natural.
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It's real food.
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And people will question that more than they question the laboratory made stuff.
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One of the events we were at together, you talked about how medical systems used to teach X and now they teach Y.
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And it was due to some very specific reasons.
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Could you bring that up?
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Yes.
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And that doctor helped open my eyes to the corruption in medicine.
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And really what happened was about 1910, John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie get together in a philanthropic endeavor.
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And they hire a gentleman named Abraham Flexner, who is an education expert.
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And they asked Mr. Flexner to go all over the country and examine and look at and survey the landscape as far as medical education goes, the different medical schools and medical school curriculum.
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Because there were about 23 homeopathic medical schools in the United States in the late 1800s, turn of the century, 1900s.
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And there were herbalist schools, chiropractic schools, naturopathic schools, osteopathic, allopathic, a variety.
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Well, Flexner comes back and basically says there's too much variety.
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There's too much kind of chaos out there.
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We need to standardize medical education of one model.
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And he recommended allopathic.
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That's MD, pharmaceutical, chemical based, really treat a symptom only.
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And that's what happened.
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So the money flowed into those schools and hospitals and universities and research labs.
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All the other schools were not funded.
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And even the AMA gets involved in state legislatures and they start licensing doctors coming out of the allopathic school and making it illegal to see an unlicensed medical provider.
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So by 1920, those 23 homeopathic medical schools were shut down.
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There were over 5,000 homeopathic physicians at that time, but those schools shut down.
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10,000 herbalists were out of business.
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Those schools were shutting down.
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The chiropractors survived because they took the AMA to court, and they survived barely.
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But really, they just ran everybody else out, either by calling them quacks and not licensing them or actually making their practice illegal.
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And so allopathic ruled the day by 1920, 1930.
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Pharma is starting to come.
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And these are petroleum byproducts, initial drugs.
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And even to this day, a lot of the drugs are byproducts of the petroleum industry.
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So that happened about 100 years ago.
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And it is right when I call the big three happened in our nutrition.
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We started sifting the grain that I mentioned earlier.
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Enriched white flour came on board as opposed to fresh milled.
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Make it yourself.
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We can get the whole wheat germ and bran all together.
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We went from saturated animal fat, tallow, lard, corn.
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The traditional cooking oils and fats, olive oil.
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We moved to polyunsaturated fatty acids.
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That's the seed oils, cottonseed, Crisco, margarine, soybean oil.
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All that came in about that time is when it started.
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And then that processed sugar, that white sugar, coming in at a much higher rate of use.
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All three of those happened about that same time that medical education changed to pharmaceutical-based foods.
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So it's been about 100 years, and that's where the chronic disease starts.
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The first reported case of Alzheimer's in the medical literature is in 1906.
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The first reported case of a heart attack ever in this country is 1912.
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There was one in the entire country, first one ever.
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First case of autism reported in 1934.
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So chronic disease used to not exist, and it's not because people weren't living long enough.
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There's a real tricky little statistical difference.
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thing, if you just Google what's life expectancy in the United States in 1899 or 1900, it'll say like 35 or 40 years old.
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That is absolutely inaccurate if you consider the infant mortality rate was 50%.
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So half the babies weren't making it to their five-year-old birthday.
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So if you had twins, statistically, one's going to be alive at five years old and one's not.
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But that one that made it to five, he's going to live a normal lifespan to 80.
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But if you average in all the babies dying, then your average is 40.
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People were living to be 80, 90, 100 years old.
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They could have had heart attacks, cancer, Alzheimer's, all these chronic diseases.
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They didn't.
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And just a little side note on those babies dying, 50% of the babies dying in the big cities in the Industrial Revolution, that infant mortality rate dropped.
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99% dropped, pretty much went away by 1950.
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That's prior to vaccines coming on the scene.
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CDC researchers, Hopkins researchers, Boston University researchers, and Harvard all looked at that 1900 to 1950 drop in infant mortality and said 1 to 3% of that was medical care.
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Most of it was because of sanitation, clean running water, indoor plumbing, good disposal of the waste, etc.
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Nutrition, cleaning up the dirty cities.
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Basically, these are cesspools, these East Coast cities in the Industrial Revolution.
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So it's all about the terrain.
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But what I'm saying is it was this perfect storm.
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Medical education changed, the nutrition changed, and chronic disease starts, and all these pharma drugs just treat a symptom.
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High blood sugar is not a disease.
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We call it disease, diabetes.
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It's not a disease.
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High sugar in your blood is a symptom.
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Right?
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of an underlying problem.
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And the problem is your carburetor, I mentioned fuel, burning fuel, your carburetor is so broken, it can't burn sugar for fuel anymore.
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And that sugar backs up in the fuel line and sits in your blood.
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You can no longer process sugar because of a broken engine.
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You take a pharma drug, it just removes that sugar out of your bloodstream.
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It doesn't fix the engine at all.
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That's why you stay chronically sick.
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An American Diabetes Association website says type 2 diabetes is a chronic progressive disease, meaning you're going to have it forever.
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It's going to progressively get worse over time.
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You're eventually going to need insulin.
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Yep, that's true.
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If you decide to just treat the smoke and not the fire, if you're just going to treat the symptom, not the cause, you fix the engine.
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We have the power.
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It's our body.
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So if a household wants to become less dependent on the medical system, what would you have them rebuild first at home?
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Honestly, now knowing what I know, the first thing I would rebuild is the community, even within the home.
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Turn the devices off.
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Turn that TV off.
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Start eating around the table together.
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Talk to each other.
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Listen to each other because your kids are trying to tell you something else.
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Don't just jump down their throat the moment you hear something you don't like.
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We've got to receive each other, listen to each other.
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That's definitely step number one.
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As far as like practical things, move.
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Get outside in nature in particular and move.
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Even if nature is trees along a sidewalk in a city or find a park, sunshine, nature, birds chirping, green space.
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It's so beneficial for the body.
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Obviously, eat real food, hydrate well, but eat your water.
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A lot of hydrating foods, and that water absorbs into the body slower and better.
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So I like hydrating foods.
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But we call it the four pillars, nutrition, hydration, movement, and peace.
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And those four things, if you can steward those four things...
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That's what the body, the inputs the body needs to self-heal, to self-detox, to self-regenerate.
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We're supposed to be cleaning ourselves cellularly every night when we sleep.
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We're supposed to tell our stem cells to wake up and repair the cartilage in my knee that got damaged today.
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We have all this in us, but it's in hibernation or it's got one hand tied behind its back.
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It's not stewarded.
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So it's the basic things.
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I know there's all kinds of really cool biohacks and gadgets and supplements and all these things.
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But your great-great-granddads didn't have to do any of that.
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And they were healthy.
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So it's really the basics.
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Get down to those basics.
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Once you have the basics down, if there's still symptoms, fine.
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Add one or two other things in.
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But you really shouldn't need a whole lot of extra.
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Go deep nutrition, move hydration, and true peace.
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Which one do most people underestimate?
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Peace.
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Yeah, that would have been my answer too.
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We don't even know what peace is.
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I mean, we kind of recognize stress.
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Then we do stress management stuff.
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But a true rest, it's foreign.
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And when people actually kind of get there, they feel uncomfortable.
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They've never truly been at rest.
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And I'm not saying sit around, don't do anything.
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You're going to do stuff, but you got to know who you are.
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My personal belief, you got to know who your creator is and you got to know who you are.
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And once you are secure in who you are, I believe we have natural giftings and talents put into us by our creator.
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Those will naturally flow.
452
00:26:27.262 --> 00:26:28.303
You're going to go do stuff.
453
00:26:28.984 --> 00:26:30.745
But if you have it reversed, you don't know who you are.
454
00:26:30.926 --> 00:26:32.827
Your identity is in what you do.
455
00:26:33.068 --> 00:26:37.932
You're going to try to get self-worth and value out of what you do and how much money and what's your title and all that.
456
00:26:38.392 --> 00:26:39.714
That is a heavy burden.
457
00:26:39.734 --> 00:26:40.554
It's going to crush you.
458
00:26:41.495 --> 00:26:44.357
So you got to get that prioritized right.
459
00:26:44.577 --> 00:26:46.419
You got to know who you are and then go do stuff.
460
00:26:46.439 --> 00:26:47.880
But it comes from a place of rest.
461
00:26:48.100 --> 00:26:50.762
I mean, that's more of a spiritual, you know, another conversation.
462
00:26:51.322 --> 00:26:53.463
But honestly, that's the most important thing.
463
00:26:53.503 --> 00:26:57.226
The mitochondria is not meant to operate in a state of tense.
464
00:26:58.307 --> 00:27:01.169
And you're going to be tense if you're not truly at rest.
465
00:27:01.669 --> 00:27:07.273
How do we teach people to be medically sovereign without making them fearful, anti-doctor, or overwhelmed?
466
00:27:07.293 --> 00:27:07.413
Yeah.
467
00:27:07.668 --> 00:27:09.009
Well, I'm obviously biased.
468
00:27:09.169 --> 00:27:15.214
We have an education platform, which I don't want to just promote my own stuff only, but we have a course called You're the Cure.
469
00:27:15.254 --> 00:27:18.336
And the point of that is to convince people that you're the cure.
470
00:27:18.817 --> 00:27:20.798
Your doctor can't cure you, honestly.
471
00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:22.900
And we go through the stats that show this.
472
00:27:23.320 --> 00:27:26.643
The pharmaceuticals are giving you, and I'll take statins, for example.
473
00:27:26.663 --> 00:27:28.344
I mean, heart disease is your number one killer.
474
00:27:28.825 --> 00:27:31.227
The doctors think it's high cholesterol that causes it.
475
00:27:31.627 --> 00:27:35.930
So they give you a statin drug to lower your LDL and total cholesterol on the paper.
476
00:27:35.950 --> 00:27:36.291
Yeah.
477
00:27:36.931 --> 00:27:37.952
So everyone's happy, right?
478
00:27:38.032 --> 00:27:39.452
Oh, my cholesterol is below 200.
479
00:27:39.492 --> 00:27:40.953
Yay, keep my Lipitor going.
480
00:27:41.473 --> 00:27:41.693
No.
481
00:27:42.153 --> 00:27:44.314
Does that decrease heart attacks?
482
00:27:44.474 --> 00:27:48.096
And does that increase mortality or decrease mortality?
483
00:27:48.936 --> 00:27:54.379
Here's what JAMA said when they reviewed all the 21 top randomized control trials on statins.
484
00:27:55.900 --> 00:27:59.801
The statins will decrease your all-cause mortality 0.8%.
485
00:28:02.944 --> 00:28:08.666
You're getting a less than 1% risk reduction by following your doctor's orders for your number one killer.
486
00:28:09.366 --> 00:28:10.227
But you can go right down.
487
00:28:10.947 --> 00:28:17.109
The number one drug for Alzheimer's, the number one drug for cancer, the number one drug for depression, for osteoporosis hip fracture.
488
00:28:17.489 --> 00:28:18.650
The best we have...
489
00:28:19.470 --> 00:28:25.012
is we can lower hip fractures in 1,000 women taking an osteoporotic drug for six years.
490
00:28:25.652 --> 00:28:27.733
It reduces the number of hip fractures by four.
491
00:28:28.213 --> 00:28:32.135
Twelve hip fractures in the non-treatment group, eight hip fractures in the treatment group.
492
00:28:32.555 --> 00:28:38.337
Four out of 1,000, what's that 0.04% risk reduction?
493
00:28:38.697 --> 00:28:44.799
So once the people get the truth that what they're tethered to and think they can't leave has such poor outcomes, you just give them the truth.
494
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:47.120
So it's education, education, education.
495
00:28:47.900 --> 00:28:50.041
And you get them convinced that, no, my body really is.
496
00:28:50.101 --> 00:28:53.343
My bones are meant to be strong, but I got to do resistance training.
497
00:28:53.604 --> 00:28:54.184
I need minerals.
498
00:28:54.204 --> 00:28:55.565
I need a low inflammatory diet.
499
00:28:55.785 --> 00:28:56.485
I need sunshine.
500
00:28:56.545 --> 00:28:57.846
All that equals bone growth.
501
00:28:58.306 --> 00:28:58.887
You teach them.
502
00:28:59.067 --> 00:28:59.567
You show them.
503
00:28:59.847 --> 00:29:01.288
So educate, educate, educate.
504
00:29:01.308 --> 00:29:02.649
That's what we do on our platform.
505
00:29:03.229 --> 00:29:04.950
And I mean, I still, I love the health share.
506
00:29:05.271 --> 00:29:08.593
Catastrophic things happen, you know, car wrecks, whatever.
507
00:29:09.493 --> 00:29:12.016
And fine, you can go use that system.
508
00:29:12.337 --> 00:29:15.220
Trauma surgeons are amazing and they take cash.
509
00:29:15.721 --> 00:29:19.225
Cash payments are way cheaper than insurance payments anyways.
510
00:29:19.525 --> 00:29:22.449
And then you turn around, hand that receipt to your health share and they reimburse you.
511
00:29:22.869 --> 00:29:23.810
It's a beautiful way.
512
00:29:23.830 --> 00:29:25.052
So you're not just out there.
513
00:29:25.072 --> 00:29:27.395
Oh no, I'm going to go broke if I get catastrophic.
514
00:29:27.415 --> 00:29:27.515
No.
515
00:29:27.855 --> 00:29:31.520
And the health share monthly share is so small, very affordable.
516
00:29:31.941 --> 00:29:33.183
So there is another system.
517
00:29:33.283 --> 00:29:33.964
It's being built.
518
00:29:34.084 --> 00:29:34.905
People don't know about it.
519
00:29:35.025 --> 00:29:39.432
So educate them and then just start stewarding your health and you'll see.
520
00:29:39.672 --> 00:29:41.555
You reverse your pre-existings.
521
00:29:42.295 --> 00:29:47.057
I actually use a health share and I've used it for the last, I want to say three or four years.
522
00:29:47.498 --> 00:29:52.180
It is absolutely that, you know, what happened is our monthlies went down.
523
00:29:52.280 --> 00:29:55.742
So we were previously paying for the lowest HSA.
524
00:29:55.962 --> 00:30:00.844
We were paying $1,400 for two adults and two kids a month.
525
00:30:00.884 --> 00:30:08.108
And that was continuing to just go up every year, even though we hadn't had any issues, you know, major surgeries or anything.
526
00:30:09.008 --> 00:30:12.770
And when we moved to HealthShare, it went down to $600.
527
00:30:12.970 --> 00:30:14.991
So $1,400 down to $600.
528
00:30:15.532 --> 00:30:27.218
And then we've just been using the extra money for lifestyle, getting more massages, like doing things that support the peace, the movement, the nutrition, and the hydration.
529
00:30:27.778 --> 00:30:29.099
But it's a little scary.
530
00:30:29.259 --> 00:30:34.221
I teach my patients, don't ever let fear come into the equation, which it's going to try to.
531
00:30:34.241 --> 00:30:37.043
Of course, we're all prone to get scared of something.
532
00:30:37.683 --> 00:30:45.408
But just at least recognize when fear is entering your decision-making process, call a timeout and really address that.
533
00:30:45.708 --> 00:30:47.209
What am I truly fearful of?
534
00:30:47.790 --> 00:30:51.672
You get fear dealt with and you can see more clearly and you can make better decisions.
535
00:30:52.193 --> 00:30:57.096
And any system that's using fear to keep you bound to it, that's not a system you want to be in.
536
00:30:57.576 --> 00:31:03.620
When you look at chronic disease today, what do you think modern life is stripped away from the body most?
537
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:03.740
Yeah.
538
00:31:04.228 --> 00:31:06.609
That's a hard one because so much has been stripped away.
539
00:31:07.770 --> 00:31:10.511
I mean, obviously the nutrition is completely depleted.
540
00:31:10.531 --> 00:31:19.155
I mean, you look at apples in 1950 and you got to eat 26 apples in 1997 to equal the mineral content in one apple in 1954.
541
00:31:19.175 --> 00:31:20.076
That's an actual study.
542
00:31:20.496 --> 00:31:21.396
But it's across the board.
543
00:31:21.436 --> 00:31:22.737
The broccoli, the carrots, everything.
544
00:31:22.957 --> 00:31:24.278
Absolutely devoid of minerals.
545
00:31:25.258 --> 00:31:27.500
But the microbiome is completely devastated too.
546
00:31:27.520 --> 00:31:30.562
These bugs in our gut do so much for us.
547
00:31:30.602 --> 00:31:32.323
They make our serotonin for mood.
548
00:31:32.363 --> 00:31:34.405
They interact with our immune system in a good way.
549
00:31:34.685 --> 00:31:35.485
They break down our food.
550
00:31:35.505 --> 00:31:37.527
They make vitamin C. They make B vitamins.
551
00:31:38.107 --> 00:31:39.548
It's amazing what the microbes do.
552
00:31:39.668 --> 00:31:45.412
And ancestral tribes that you can go study today, they have 30,000 different species.
553
00:31:45.973 --> 00:31:49.455
And of each species, there's billions, so trillions altogether.
554
00:31:49.936 --> 00:31:51.877
The average American is down to 5,000 species.
555
00:31:51.897 --> 00:31:51.997
Wow.
556
00:31:53.498 --> 00:31:54.599
instead of 30,000.
557
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.242
So we've stripped away the microbiome.
558
00:31:57.262 --> 00:31:59.164
We've stripped away micronutrients.
559
00:31:59.685 --> 00:32:01.707
We've stripped away community.
560
00:32:01.867 --> 00:32:02.808
We're all divided.
561
00:32:02.848 --> 00:32:03.389
We're busy.
562
00:32:03.409 --> 00:32:04.129
We're distracted.
563
00:32:04.149 --> 00:32:07.273
These phones, I mean, there's so many things we've stripped away.
564
00:32:07.313 --> 00:32:09.435
I don't know that I could narrow it down to just one.
565
00:32:10.203 --> 00:32:18.111
the difference between being calorie sufficient, which is what most people are doing versus nutrient sufficient.
566
00:32:18.511 --> 00:32:20.993
Because we think we're under the illusion of health.
567
00:32:21.013 --> 00:32:27.059
We think if I have that skinless, boneless chicken breast, the steamed vegetables, the baked potato, I'm now healthy.
568
00:32:27.099 --> 00:32:35.127
So I cut out the junk food and we think that what we're doing is healthy, but it's completely devoid of nutrition still.
569
00:32:35.710 --> 00:32:36.030
Yes.
570
00:32:36.250 --> 00:32:40.393
I mean, it's one of my pet peeves if I'm anywhere like at a hotel at a conference or something.
571
00:32:40.413 --> 00:32:42.494
I hear someone order an egg white omelet.
572
00:32:43.335 --> 00:32:45.036
I just want to go over there and say, wait a minute.
573
00:32:45.857 --> 00:32:47.858
You just ruined the best whole food.
574
00:32:48.358 --> 00:32:48.819
Yes.
575
00:32:49.219 --> 00:32:50.259
And we do it with the dairy.
576
00:32:50.280 --> 00:32:51.280
We strip it out.
577
00:32:51.300 --> 00:32:52.581
We strip out all the fat.
578
00:32:52.601 --> 00:32:53.542
We homogenize it.
579
00:32:53.562 --> 00:32:54.422
We pasteurize it.
580
00:32:54.442 --> 00:32:56.964
All the good proteins and bacteria are killed.
581
00:32:57.705 --> 00:32:58.445
the enzymes.
582
00:32:58.606 --> 00:33:00.948
I mean, we just completely destroy stuff.
583
00:33:01.068 --> 00:33:03.751
Yeah, we got plenty of calories now, but we have no nutrition.
584
00:33:04.152 --> 00:33:11.680
So we call it deep nutrition and we have a five superfood groups is what we call it because there's so much nutrition in each one of these groups.
585
00:33:12.221 --> 00:33:15.605
One of those and probably number one's organ meats for sure.
586
00:33:16.125 --> 00:33:17.426
And then we love ferments.
587
00:33:17.926 --> 00:33:18.967
We love raw dairy.
588
00:33:19.387 --> 00:33:23.909
We love homemade bone broth and then fresh milled grain.
589
00:33:24.129 --> 00:33:27.831
I'm not an anti-grain guy if you mill it yourself like your ancestors did.
590
00:33:28.151 --> 00:33:29.432
And, of course, organic grain.
591
00:33:29.972 --> 00:33:31.333
But there's so much nutrition.
592
00:33:31.353 --> 00:33:35.455
Those are powerhouses of nutrition, as people well know with the organ meats.
593
00:33:35.535 --> 00:33:37.176
But that's what we need.
594
00:33:37.316 --> 00:33:39.537
We need nutrient-dense food, that deep nutrition.
595
00:33:40.045 --> 00:33:46.912
So for the parent listening who wants one practical first step this week, where would you have them begin?
596
00:33:48.613 --> 00:33:54.319
For a parent, I'm looking at that sugar water because those kids love sugar so much and they're addicted to it.
597
00:33:54.419 --> 00:34:00.184
If the Gatorade, Powerade, Coca-Cola, obviously, but even the juices, that sugar water is not good.
598
00:34:00.865 --> 00:34:02.566
So I'm going to start weaning off that some.
599
00:34:02.807 --> 00:34:04.008
You may not go cold turkey.
600
00:34:04.568 --> 00:34:05.369
Start weaning that.
601
00:34:05.829 --> 00:34:15.959
I'm trying to get at least one of those five superfoods in every single day with the goal of getting all five on some reasonable time frame, you know, within the next three months.
602
00:34:16.019 --> 00:34:21.124
Let's add one a week or whatever, one every month, whatever it is, get an actual calendar out and put it on there.
603
00:34:21.804 --> 00:34:26.747
And if you don't think that like an organ meat, then there's great ways to sneak it in there.
604
00:34:27.708 --> 00:34:28.368
Like Pluck.
605
00:34:28.609 --> 00:34:30.750
I mean, that's just right on there.
606
00:34:31.050 --> 00:34:32.311
There's different smoothie blends.
607
00:34:32.331 --> 00:34:34.092
There's different ancestral primal blends.
608
00:34:34.112 --> 00:34:35.393
There's all kinds of tricks.
609
00:34:35.413 --> 00:34:37.414
I mean, there's so much now you can find on the internet.
610
00:34:37.674 --> 00:34:39.856
Just start getting the deep nutrition going.
611
00:34:40.076 --> 00:34:41.317
Definitely limit the screen time.
612
00:34:41.577 --> 00:34:42.337
No doubt about that.
613
00:34:42.357 --> 00:34:44.158
I mean, those are probably my top three.
614
00:34:44.198 --> 00:34:49.822
Cut the sugar water, limit the screen time, start getting deep nutrition, those five superfoods, organ meats in particular.
615
00:34:50.110 --> 00:34:56.393
And for you, is the screen time the issue because it's kind of removing you from community and connection?
616
00:34:56.874 --> 00:34:58.855
Obviously, we need screens pretty much.
617
00:34:58.935 --> 00:35:02.377
I mean, life these days, kids need to know how to use it probably.
618
00:35:02.857 --> 00:35:07.920
But they also need guardrails and they need time constraints because that thing, it's designed to suck you in.
619
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:09.401
And pretty soon it's been four hours.
620
00:35:09.601 --> 00:35:11.182
You know, your eyeballs never got off that.
621
00:35:11.802 --> 00:35:18.183
But even from the blue light going in, as opposed to the full spectrum sunlight, there's lots of reasons to be off that.
622
00:35:18.223 --> 00:35:19.744
But yeah, community is part of it.
623
00:35:19.844 --> 00:35:21.464
The blue light issues another part.
624
00:35:21.564 --> 00:35:28.565
And just the dopamine hit of that that keeps you addicted to that, you know, that disrupts neurochemistry in ways we don't understand fully.
625
00:35:29.005 --> 00:35:30.706
Doing it smartly.
626
00:35:30.726 --> 00:35:38.807
I have to admit, as a parent, I'm struggling a lot with that because when you do anything different from what the majority of people do, you feel like an outlier.
627
00:35:38.827 --> 00:35:41.168
But when you're a kid, that doesn't feel very fun.
628
00:35:41.573 --> 00:35:42.374
Yeah, it is.
629
00:35:42.434 --> 00:35:43.795
It's a huge challenge.
630
00:35:43.975 --> 00:35:46.156
And that's, again, I'm always going to go to education.
631
00:35:46.817 --> 00:35:52.521
And I mean, kids may or may not receive that education, but it's getting in there.
632
00:35:53.262 --> 00:35:58.666
So that's where you try to compromise, set some limits the best you can, or just have some holiday time from it.
633
00:35:58.726 --> 00:36:01.528
You know, let's pick one night where there's nothing that's going to be on.
634
00:36:02.648 --> 00:36:08.172
Or one weekend, let's get away to the mountains, and we're going to leave our phones on this hike and not take them on this hike.
635
00:36:08.192 --> 00:36:09.954
You know, there's ways to compromise on that.
636
00:36:10.414 --> 00:36:12.677
So I always end with this question.
637
00:36:12.997 --> 00:36:17.902
If you could wave a magic wand, bring back one ancestral practice, what would it be and why?
638
00:36:18.721 --> 00:36:19.622
Man, that's a good one.
639
00:36:20.402 --> 00:36:29.287
I don't know if this is an ancestral practice necessarily, but just being outside together.
640
00:36:30.508 --> 00:36:31.308
Everything was outside.
641
00:36:31.628 --> 00:36:32.869
They washed their clothes in the creek.
642
00:36:33.430 --> 00:36:34.010
They're in the garden.
643
00:36:34.030 --> 00:36:34.610
They're hunting.
644
00:36:34.950 --> 00:36:37.112
There wasn't this sit inside isolated.
645
00:36:37.352 --> 00:36:43.675
There's just something about sitting around a campfire together or sitting around a table together, just going on a walk together.
646
00:36:44.736 --> 00:36:47.978
There's something about community that's really, really impactful together.
647
00:36:48.358 --> 00:36:50.478
And when you're obviously outside in nature.
648
00:36:50.859 --> 00:36:52.959
So I don't know if that counts as a practice or not.
649
00:36:52.979 --> 00:36:55.240
The next one would probably honestly be the organ meats.
650
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:56.620
I'm not saying that just because of pluck.
651
00:36:56.700 --> 00:36:59.100
It's just such a powerhouse of nutrition.
652
00:36:59.140 --> 00:37:07.982
I mean, getting back to that nose to tail kind of, even just from a stewardship, you know, these animals being sacrificed for us to eat just their muscle meat.
653
00:37:08.282 --> 00:37:09.803
Come on, that's not good stewardship.
654
00:37:09.823 --> 00:37:15.804
So to honor that animal, that'd probably be on a more practical level, one of the top ones.
655
00:37:16.584 --> 00:37:17.825
Well, I can get behind that one.
656
00:37:18.866 --> 00:37:26.071
I'm sure there's going to be people that want to work with you, want to learn more about you, dive deep into Dr. Ben Edwards' world.
657
00:37:26.251 --> 00:37:27.032
How can they do that?
658
00:37:27.892 --> 00:37:32.956
Veritas, V as in Victor, E-R-I-T-A-S. That's Latin for truth.
659
00:37:33.716 --> 00:37:38.740
But VeritasMedical.com, VeritasWellnessMember.com.
660
00:37:39.040 --> 00:37:41.142
Those both take you actually to the same website.
661
00:37:41.162 --> 00:37:43.583
We do have a medical clinic in Lubbock, Texas and Abilene, Texas.
662
00:37:43.603 --> 00:37:44.264
We'll see you next time.
663
00:37:44.764 --> 00:37:46.205
But our goal is not for you to come to our clinic.
664
00:37:46.545 --> 00:37:47.986
Actually, my goal is to shut down the clinic.
665
00:37:48.567 --> 00:37:50.548
So the wellness platform is virtual.
666
00:37:51.008 --> 00:37:52.269
We have 10 health coaches.
667
00:37:52.349 --> 00:37:54.711
We have clients in all 50 states and six countries.
668
00:37:55.091 --> 00:37:58.894
You can get a blood panel done on there, tons of education, one-on-one support, group classes.
669
00:37:59.254 --> 00:38:01.095
Our goal is to teach you to not need a doctor.
670
00:38:01.515 --> 00:38:03.297
So VeritasWellnessMember.com.
671
00:38:03.317 --> 00:38:07.539
Then we're on social media, Dr. Ben Edwards, YouTube and Instagram, Facebook, I think.
672
00:38:08.100 --> 00:38:09.060
My team does all that.
673
00:38:09.341 --> 00:38:11.822
But really appreciate you having me on the podcast.
674
00:38:11.842 --> 00:38:12.523
Love what you do.
675
00:38:13.224 --> 00:38:16.067
I've enjoyed really getting to know you better too at these conferences.
676
00:38:16.087 --> 00:38:17.329
We keep running into each other.
677
00:38:17.930 --> 00:38:19.112
Love the Pluck product.
678
00:38:19.372 --> 00:38:20.413
We carry it in our store.
679
00:38:20.433 --> 00:38:21.595
We have a little store here in Lubbock.
680
00:38:21.975 --> 00:38:26.582
It's great connecting with like-minded folks that are building that parallel system.
681
00:38:26.622 --> 00:38:27.543
So keep up the good work.
682
00:38:28.436 --> 00:38:28.876
Thank you.
683
00:38:29.516 --> 00:38:30.276
Right back at you.
684
00:38:30.836 --> 00:38:33.837
And thank you for just breaking things down and helping people understand.
685
00:38:33.857 --> 00:38:40.758
I think that's the best thing we can do is just provide some contrast so that people can start to better understand the fuller picture, right?
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Because you only know what you know.
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And until we expose new ideas, people stay stuck in the concepts that they're currently running.
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So thank you for exposing everyone to some new, very powerful ideas.
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You're welcome.
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That's what I love to do, connect the dots for people, because we really were designed to be well.
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And it's just lack of knowledge, corruption, lack of stewardship that got us where we're at.
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So we just learned a new way, a better way, and we can get out of this mess.
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So thank you for having me on so I could share.
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That is the perfect way to end.
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Thank you all for joining us.
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And as always, stay curious.
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That is how we make changes.
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You got to stay curious.
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So thank you all and be well.
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Thank you so much for joining me on Everyday Ancestral.
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That's E-A-T-P-L-U-C-K dot com.
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And hey, if you know someone who'd get something out of this, share it with them too.
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Stay curious, live well, and keep it ancestral.