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Welcome to your top true crime hob for the variety
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in episodes you're looking for enjoy what's up?
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Up? Up?
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What your hands where I can see him?
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What your hands up? Hands up? Hands up? Get on
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the ground, Get on the ground. You're thinking of.
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One of the hob.
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What what did I do?
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Summach Robert?
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You guys so much? Your name on it?
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No, okay, us l.
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I just use.
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Oh okay, good blackmail and bread.
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I'll tell you what.
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If everything turns out to be on the up and
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up right for the good, then you'll be on.
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Your way, all right.
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I got.
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I presume Oh no, ask him, Ask him if he
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knows he was on the porch here.
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Yeah, I was using I was using his phone down
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door to door over here. Yeah, I'm sure your shoes, man,
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I was trying to use somebody's phone.
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Where your shoes? My flip flops skiming his house? He
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was seeing he he just gained you a jackie.
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He's identifying folk, lighter skinned, blackmail, dread, red shirt, blue jeans.
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No shoes. Yeah, I did. I did go to the house.
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I went to that house right there, right down the street,
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right here. Where are you coming from?
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Man?
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I was coming from that parade dune. Okay, I know
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a friend now rolling. I think that's a fabulous sighting. Okay,
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I'll tell you what.
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Roll over on your butt, okay, not roll over on
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your butt, roll up on your.
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Knees, roll over on, roll up on your knee.
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Okay.
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Five Elizabeth s five fight.
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Week?
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Did I do something in front of my squad?
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Man?
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Okay?
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Is there anything is gonna stick me?
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No? No, no, not at all, okay, not at all.
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I don't have any red means. Glad to hear it,
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nothing like that. How did you get up over here?
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Man?
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I was coming to see a friend. Yeah, where's your friend?
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Oh? No, now, spin your hand, spind your back, your hands, I.
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Had, yeah, I want you injured it all?
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Dude?
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Yeah? What hurts when when they slammed my knee? I'm
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already have Okay, yes, yes, yes, that's my idea. It
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certainly is. Yes, I'm so cold.
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That's why you.
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Have you got to take for me, so there won't
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be as silly as yesterday. It was an incredibly busy day.
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I know. I'm just come on being straight up the
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whole time. Oh, it's gonna be siller, man, at least
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you know nothing, nothing's broken, right, Yeah? Good? So say,
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well you might win up foreorn though they know what
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they're doing up there to sleep. Okay, you know people right,
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better than if you had a bunch of other people
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around you. Though, better than that. BUTI no, my shrugger
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hurts too bad right now? Uh? They got you some McDonald's.
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I see. Yeah, I couldn't really eat it. Man. What
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they get you where they gets your brefast? Uh? Some
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type of little sound. I didn't even eat it though, Okay,
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all right, was you last night? I did nothing? I
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know they got you something to something from quick trips
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and chips, and so I didn't even eat it. Okay, Yeah,
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I know you said you hadn't eaten since like Saturday.
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So yeah, yeah I tried to, but just kind of
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because you're unsure of what was happening, un insure the
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pain I feel. I'm like, wait and hell, but you
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got something in your system now so that you're not
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just a little bit good. It's said something I know.
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I know the shoulder struggle bad choulders though. Absolutely I
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know something is wrong. I know I know something. Yeah,
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so we'll get to that. But can you spell your
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first name again for me, D A R R E
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L L. So y'all talk to her. We'll yeah, someone did.
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What's your middle girl is? In that case, that's my
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that's my daughter's mama though I love her, nonna, I
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love her to death. Man, we all got somebody. What's
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your middle later on Edward Edward, Yeah, I'm getting it, Brooks.
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I'm sorry, man, it hurts so bad. I'm getting teary eyed. Dude, Like, seriously,
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I know something is wrong. Oh Brooks right, yes, sir, junior, sir, Yes, sir.
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It's your date of birth throughout so you're thirty nine, yes, sir,
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remind me what's your home? A forty four year old
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one four North nineteenth Street. Okay, in then I have
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to because that light doesn't go off in here. We're
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even dim. So I was trying to like didn't even them.
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It didn't even dim. So usually my comfortable side this
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three point is my left side where my shoulders. So
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when I turned over and I was just like, oh
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my god, it came in there was like, are you okay?
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I was like, no, yeah, you married Durrell. No, no,
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I supposed to be supposed to be. What's your phone
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numerican four one four, uh, three three nine, five, six
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seven seven. But what's the sixth one on number you
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gave me last night? Uh? That is my direct, Rember.
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What's your direct number? Six one oh two one five
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sorry six one on two two one five three two
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one two five three that's your director? Yes, sir, okay,
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you're not married. What's your girlfriend's name? Erica Patterson? And
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she's your baby mama?
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Yes?
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How many told kids? Yeah? I have three three kids? Yes?
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You were born was in Milwaukee, Detroit, Detroit? Yes, it's
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born in Detroit. Live in Milwaukee, Yes, sir? Uh, last
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grade you completed? What was that? And are you working
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right now? No?
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Not true?
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How long you have been out of work? Let's see
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when did I get locked up from Milwaukee? Uh it's
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a few months. Anything to do with the pandemic that's
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been here. Yeah, that's the reason why. Yeah, yeah, man,
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you smove off. Okay, I got steps lined that though,
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so yeah, whatever, like like what, I'm probably gonna go
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back I was working at a sheet metal place, so
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I'm probably gonna go back there. Okay. That that was
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ideal to you as a stamping or we we do uh,
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I guess they they like steam and paint the metal
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pieces and then like ship on out like car car
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metal parts. The trucks come in and you you love
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the trucks, and then we just hang the metal pieces
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on the the little machine thing that comes around, they
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take 'em. They they the pieces go through like this
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little steamer type machine thing, and then they paint it
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and then they come back around and we just take
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them off the hook and just put them in the box,
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load 'em up, put him back on the truck. It
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was four on, three off, So that was more ideal
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because that's a great schedule. I I mostly have my
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children the back half of the week, sure, but since
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since all this oten having them every day. So it
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was like, oh, they're your kids. My my son has grown,
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my daughter, my oldest daughter is fourteen, and my youngest
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daughter's seven. You said, your son, well, his son's grown,
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hal team, he's eighteen. They all live with you. Then
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in one well my son doesn't. My son doesn't. Okay, alright,
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that's not no, no, okay, wis who's she moment to?
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All right?
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So okay, so you have three kids, all right? So look, Durell,
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I haven't talked to her personally, I know, so part
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of what happened last night is she was just being strange,
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you know, which because she said she.
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Does that, so we gotta we got a report about
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an altercation between the two of you. Okay, all right,
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But they couldn't They couldn't find her for hours. That's
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part of the reason I didn't know anything for hours.
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He kept asking, right, That's so they couldn't find her
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for hours, and I had.
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To kind of stick with and hang out with you,
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and then I'm just guys are looking for and looking
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for and finally they find her and they talked to her,
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and seems to me based on their conversation where they
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she could be a little out there. You don't know
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how yeah, how many? We don't know how women be?
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You right, have you ever been married?
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No? Have you?
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Baby?
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Mama's are two? Three? Three? Are they all whack or
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just my son's mama is like she's from out this way,
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She's from New Berlin, grew up in Berlin out here, sweetheart. Okay, works,
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takes care of home, sweetheart, and her second son is autistic,
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so she's really really really hands on mom. No issues
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with her at all. Erica is the only one that
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I have problems with. Even my youngest daughter, daughter's mom
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works comes home. Were gonna fight, we donna argue, we
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co parent. I have my daughter most of the time.
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Then you all type of then I have somebody touch you,
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and I'm gonna keep my daughter away from you, and
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I'm gonna make sure you never see her again. And
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you talk to every time y'all bull ringe, I'll hit
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you upside your.
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Head with this pain.
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And just she's even my mom doesn't even like her,
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or you know some of the crazy things they'll say sometimes.
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But you know again, and this is to give you
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more clarity. And like I told you last night, every
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now and then you can see it's just the two
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of us.
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There's no one else here. So it's just I know
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there were some other people last night that ed you uncomfortable.
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That's gone, that's all gone. I explained to it. You
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know why that was going on.
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You know us, we're not We're not gonna do nothing
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to you, right, you know, trust worthy, you can be
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comfortable with us. We're in this room, it's just the
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two of us, just the three of us, so we
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can I feel like talk in a more more open way,
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in a more comfortable way where there's not you know,
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there's not anything around that you feel as is strange, right.
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I mean, you got to spend a lot of time
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with us, but the reality is right now, Durell, I
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don't know Erica. I know you've described I didn't speak
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to her. I didn't know her. I've been doing this
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a long time, and you know, I know some of
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you know the domestic.
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Claims they'll make. So again, I'd like to sit down
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and try to shaty and learn a little bit more
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about you and Erica and what makes her tick, both
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when she's on and when more particular she's off, and
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get an idea what's going on and what I consider
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this conversation, Darrell, is more information sharing. I'm not gonna
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sit here and be a total jerk and say talk
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to me and sit here and say nothing.
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I got some ideas on kind.
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Of what she said, but that's all we got, and
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I don't know how accurate what she said might really be.
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And that's why I want to give you an opportunity.
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If she's off the wall and I need to know it,
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to give you a chance to tell me, like I said,
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just the two of us, you know, definitely, you know
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what I'm saying. She needs to be on some type
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of medication. Sure, and she knows this from the ped Like,
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I'll be dealing with her for sixteen years, so this
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isn't just some shit. I just man, I've been knowing
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her for sixteen years. Gotcha going through this with her? Okay,
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So this isn't the first time she she She's even
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told my mom too, I'm gonna get even in the past.
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I'm gonna get him locked up, and then she'll tell
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my mom, Oh, he didn't really do that. I was
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just mad and I was drunk, and my mama was like,
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you know, he got that baby at home or anything?
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But what's the address? Or I had no idea about
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walking shaw? I don't know the street. What was it near?
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I knew you had to see something near it? So
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what was it near? Like a gas station? Have you
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been to the house before? No? Never before? No? What's
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Stephanie's last name? I have no idea, no idea. When
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did you guys set this up? Maybe a couple of
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days ago, Okay, Like I said, I have a few friends.
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I a few friends in Milwaukee D have people out here,
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so it's not I don't, like I said last night,
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I don't know the streets and Walker Shaw's not where
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I usually hang out at. So I couldn't say, well,
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this street, this street, and this you know, I couldn't
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feel like a friend of yours or like a friend
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of a friend, A friend of a friend, my true friend.
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I have no idea. That was my first time meeting.
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So how did you get the number to know the
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house to go to? A friend? A friend? So? How
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did you get to your house? My friend? I went
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with my friend? Okay, who's that my friend? I don't
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really want to say his name. I don't know if
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that's going to incriminate him in anything. So okay, so
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let's go with this. How did you come? I know
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you saw her okay yesterday in Waukee Shaw because we
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talked to her. Now, I don't know everything that went on,
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and I'm saying I believe everything she told the other officers.
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How did you come to meet with her in Waukeshaw
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one and two? You say you don't know a Waukee show?
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But where did you meet her? A gas station? A park?
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I know you met her? Where did you meet her.
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What happened yesterday? Because if this is BS like you say,
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and I know you met her, what happened. I never
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happened when you met her? Where did you meet her?
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Let's start with that. By a gas station? Okay, I
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don't know she have it? Why was she holding she
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she had been holding it for me for a few
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weeks now, but like I said, I hadn't seen her.
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She had seen right, Why did she have it? Why
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was she holding toy? She was just holding it for
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me because I told her to hold you for me.
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But this was it didn't have anything to do with it.
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This was weeks ago. She had been holding the money,
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and because I had no contact with her, I couldn't
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tell her, and my mom wasn't gonna let her come
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to the house to bring And I told her, look, man,
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if I'm gonna be out there, I meet up with
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you and get the money, but I'm not hanging out
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with you. I'm not having to with you. And she
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was just like, oh, you want to tell you. I'm like,
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I'm not finna do none of that. Okay, you know
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what I'm saying. I'm not supposed to be around you.
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I get that. I understand that I'm not gonna lie
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to y'all. I'm not supposed to be around you. I
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love you to death, man, you my baby mom. I'm
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not gonna you know what I'm saying. It wasn't supposed
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to be like a hang out thing.
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I told her.
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I'm like, I'm out here, and she love where you at,
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where you at, where you at, And I'm like, look,
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I meet up with you to get the money and
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you know, get you a hug or whatever. But she
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was like, well, gee, I need something. Can I'm like, no,
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we can't do it all all that. I'm not gonna
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have sex with you. I'm not gonna hang out with
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you or none of that.
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Right, So you told her you weren't. You weren't gonna
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do any of that stuff. No, how did you set
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the meeting out?
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Did you?
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Did you talk to her on the phone, Facebook messager,
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her text message?
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Cause I talked to her. Yeah. I don't think she
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said anything about that. So just I mean, if she's yes,
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how did you? Yeah? Cause I didn't with her, I
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didn't she this is what she does, hold on one
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thing at a time. How did you set the meeting
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with her? That's what That's what I'm saying. She if
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she can't get in touch with me, that's what she'll do.
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She'll go to social media's and do all this and
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try to talk to people and aut this and that.
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I got in contact with her through a mutual friend
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that we both know, and I was like, Okay, tell
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her I'm out in walking shaw or whatever. And I
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meet up with her to get the money. And then
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she put us on the call and she was just
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like where you at? Yeah, And she was just like
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where are you at. I'm like, look, I don't know
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where I'm at. Do you still got that money? She's like, yeah,
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I want to give you the money. And I wanted
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to say I want to do this and do that.
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I'm like, no, I'm not gonna have I'm not gonna
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hang out with you. I'm gonna meet up with you,
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get the money, get you a hugging kids, we'll talk later.
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Was it still daylight? It was still daylighter. It was
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still daylight, so this was I think the game was
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still on. Game was still on. Stuff needs to go.
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The game is still on. So I was like, you
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know what I mean, I wanted to see you. I
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ain't seen you in like a money you know what
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I'm saying. So I'm not gonna lie sert Man, that's
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my baby, mama. I love this woman, but I can't
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hang out with you. I can't do anything with you,
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you know, that type of thing, dealing whatever the case
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may be. But yeah, that and this is on your
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cell phone.
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The tricon obviously is your cell phone, because you're not
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my friend's phone friend's phone.
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Yeah, but yesterday, so do you have your phone? No,
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that's what I'm saying. No, So who is the friend
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whose phone you were using to talk to her? Her
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on a tree a call. I don't want to say
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his name because I don't want to. Okay, I guess
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so you saw her though, right, you met up with her? Okay,
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So how did the conversation with your end with me
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walking off and her being pissed off that I didn't
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want to hang out with her? I said, Look, I'm
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not supposed to be around you. I'm gonna not gonna
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demonize her and make it seem like, you know, she's
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just some some scum cheek of the earth, because she's not.
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It's just the drinking. How long ago did that happen?
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When you just told us about this happened and like
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all get September right, and your mom stopped it. I
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called my mom because I didn't know. Yeah she saw
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hell yeah she saw it all right. So in regards
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to what happened out here with her yesterday, part of
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the reason now it's straight with you that we.
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Asked some of the things we asked. The relic is
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part of what we gotta do. It's act the track too,
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you know, so I know you're telling her, you mean
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she's crazy, she's off the wall.
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Like I said, it's just when she drinks. It's just
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when she drinks. I just wanted you fear. I'm not
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saying she's just some mental basket case. She does when
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she's drunk, her words is she blacks out so she
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doesn't remember. I don't know if that's true, but I
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know she doesn't want a If you talk to her sober, sweetheart,
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crack jous, last, smiling, buddly personality, is hard not to
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like her. We got to one trump. I've even my daughter,
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her family and all that. We've even recorded her drunk
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and played it back for her the next day and
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said this is how you act. And she would be life,
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you know, with somebody that acts like that. So I
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totally understand where you're coming from a mess.
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So on that note, Drell, you know, we just gotta
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we still don't. For us, we don't totally know at
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this point. Usually lie lot of times there's one story
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and there's the other story. A lot of times, I'll
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be honest. Still, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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And that's not necessarily saying you're a liar. She's a liar.
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All the people we talk to our liars, there's a
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there's always perception, all right, And that's why you know what.
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Kind of fact checks, like all right, is what this
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person told me true? It's like, all right, it doesn't
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necessarily seem totally, but I could see how they.
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Perceived this or that, or you know, we fact check
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with someone and say, okay, yeah, this is how that happened.
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That's why I'm asking you some of these questions. What's
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your buddy's name, what's your buddy's phone number? I know
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I know fact because she would have known her if
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I did something to her, she would have called you
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guys immediately, especially drunk, especially with her being drunk, she
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would have let it be known. She would have told
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me off top, she would have told me. And that's
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why I was I'm kind of confused, like, and she
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didn't tell you that she was gonna call content for yesterday?
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What reason was she? Like, That's that's the whole thing.
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I'm thinking, Like, you can't so she know you? Or yeah?
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Well she always every time she's drunk, she says she's
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gonna keep me in trouble. That's like one of her
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her her main themes is when she she tries to
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low blow me, she will take it to you're not
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I'm not gonna let you see your daughter. That's it's usually, Oh,
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I'll get you, I'll get you locked up, I'll get
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you touched, I'll they I'll make you will never see
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your daughter. Yes, yes, yes, what specifically like you ain't
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say you out here and you ain't hanging out with me?
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Right you ain't see now I'm gonna get you locked
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up and I'm not giving you your money locked up? Yes, yes, okay,
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because the money, the money is the reason why I
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even agreed to meet her. Sure, three or fifty is
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worth coming out. So what's your buddy's name? Can we
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get that?
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Have we gotta talk to him to verify you're on
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the up and up and she's on some bs.
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His name is Marquis his last name. I don't know
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his last name. What his phone number? Four six seven? Oh,
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we hope if I have my freaking phone somewhere four
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six seven, uh eighty five, thirty one or thirty or
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something like that. Yes, sir, and he lives in Milwaukee. Yes, sir,
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and you guys came out here together. Yes, Like I said,
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the Stephanie was, she's a she's an older mixed lady,
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so she's not You know, who do you know in Waukee? Shaw?
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I know a guy named Tyrion. I don't know where
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he lives now I met. I've been knowing him for
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maybe five six years. I just know he stays in Walkershaw.
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He comes down to Milwaukee a lot, and then he
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comes back up here. I don't how old is he.
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I'm like thirty four thirty five. Maybe I know a
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lot of I know a lot of females. Well, how
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many times have you Venitarian's house once in like twenty eighteen,
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You remember it was like it was like an apartment.
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It wasn't the house though, apartment do you remember what
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was near it? I think it was like right on
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the main street. What's the main street. There's a lot
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of light streets like whatever whatever street w would be
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considered downtown, the bars and restaurants strip. It's stepping ways
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here downtown, a lot of bars and business and you're there.
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The only thing I can remember it is a gas station,
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like a TV quarter gas station. I think this street
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is like a one way. Whatever street is right here
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is like a one way, and it's a gas station
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like right here. What the mould of the speedway? Quick trip? Hometown?
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Not a quick trip? Not a speedway like the blue
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and white one blue? When any schools or parks nearby
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our house? Something like that? Anything you remember like that? Trails?
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I know the I know that park. I know that
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park is by Uh. I just said because I don't
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really know Stephans like that. It's my friends, friend or
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partner or whatever whatever the case may be. Day was
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getting into it about pretty much the same thing that
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I was getting into it with Erica about. I was
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just like him, him, who's him? Marcus? Him? Her and
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whoever else? Steady was there? Yeah at her house. Yeah,
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a few girls that I didn't know, but Dad already
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said it was gonna be people over here. Okay, all right.
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So I was pissed because I feel like I just
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met up with her, with my baby's mama. I just
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met up with her for absolutely nothing. So you you
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tell me, okay, you out here in Walkenshaw, I'm out here,
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let's meet up. I got your money. And then I
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walk over here and you don't have the money, or
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you do or you don't. You just ain't gonna give
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it to me, however the case may be. So I'm
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just like, okay with every well who I'm I just
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got into it with it now, y'all into it like man,
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he's tripping whatever. Lest oh, I'm like nah nah O'Day
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uh no. Years Okay, I'm gonna be straight with you
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because you've been asking me for that all along. That
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doesn't make sense. And listen to me. Okay, just listen
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to me.
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You go to this house, you leave. It was that
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wind was cold as hell at first.
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Well by by the time it was getting later in
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the day.
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I mean after the Packer game, you're talking three thirty
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four o'clock, it was getting cold.
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I was outside for a while. Yeah, about like, so
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by the time you're talking, it was getting cold. All right,
476
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:51.759
Marcus is ready to leave because being crazy, He's like,
477
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.400
I'm out. You just went through the same experience from
478
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:59.240
what you're telling you live. I don't know. I mean,
479
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:01.839
I totally about me way up. I know you don't
480
00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:04.640
know exactly what happened. But who are you going to
481
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:07.160
trust more, Marcus, who you know him for years? Or Stephanie?
482
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:09.240
Why would you walk away?
483
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:13.200
Walk all the way down to where you did leave
484
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:14.279
your phone in the apartment?
485
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:19.039
Apparently? How long what you're saying and go down to
486
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:21.759
where you were and not take the ride back to Milwaukee?
487
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.920
You follow what I'm saying, right? Can you understand? I
488
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:28.799
don't know. I don't know if back to Milwaukee though,
489
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.920
I don't know if you did that, But how are
490
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:32.279
you going to get back if you don't get in
491
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:36.000
the car? I called it uber, That's what I did.
492
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:38.960
So what happened? How did you get all the way
493
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:41.440
to where you went? Because there's all these businesses in
494
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:45.839
between where you were and where you got to. How
495
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.799
did you end up at a random house without your
496
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:51.680
shoes and your phone? Drill, this is what I'm saying.
497
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.160
I had my flip flops on. I had them right,
498
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:01.200
Just say where did they go? I don't know. I'm
499
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:04.400
knocked on two doors, not just the one. So you
500
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:07.640
had your flip flops. I had my green bag Tacker
501
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:12.359
flip flops on. Yes, green Bay pack. That's what I'm saying.
502
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:14.759
I didn't. I wasn't just walking around with no shoes.
503
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:19.240
That didn't happen until after the fact. That's what I'm
504
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:23.079
trying to say. Like it's like, it's another question I
505
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:26.759
would have for you is if you had your phone too? Correct? Yeah,
506
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:30.200
you didn't leave that part. No, That's why I was
507
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:31.880
telling you what you should have been on the grass.
508
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:34.680
Remember I described the phone to you. I said, it's black,
509
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:38.519
it has a crash screen. Yep. Yeah. Why are you
510
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.480
asking other people to use their phones? Why my phone
511
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:46.759
was dead? Okay? When did it die? I have no idea. Okay,
512
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.640
And I didn't have the charger, but you used it
513
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:52.960
for the three way call, and now I used his
514
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.519
phone for the three way call. Like I said, we
515
00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.160
got a mutual friend named Michelle me and Airica do.
516
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:05.880
I've known Michelle just as long as I've known Erica.
517
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.319
She was the one that was telling me, what's going
518
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:10.200
on with you and your baby mama? Y'all not talking
519
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:13.400
because she's trying to get in touch with you. I said, yeah,
520
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:17.119
I know, I know, she probably trying to get in
521
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:20.240
touch with me. Will often emerge, y'all. That's how I
522
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:24.640
ended up talking to her and telling her I'll, you know,
523
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:26.880
I'll walk over and meet you to get the money
524
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:29.319
or whatever you need, to hug you, just whatever. I
525
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:31.759
had my flip flops on. Then I wasn't, like I said,
526
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:35.759
I wasn't, just because the ways he was making it
527
00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:38.480
seem like I was just running around with no shoes
528
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.400
to begin with. It's like, no, I mean it was
529
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:43.759
pretty cold here to have a jacket. Well, I didn't
530
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:46.319
have a jacket to begin with. I didn't have a
531
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.440
jacket to begin with. But I'm saying my shoes I
532
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.200
had flipsolutely, So help you. God, right, I'm familiar. We've
533
00:30:52.200 --> 00:31:00.480
all heard that, right, And I just have concerns fact
534
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:04.920
check that Durrell's not telling me the truth. You don't
535
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.960
have a car, so Marcus had to bring out you
536
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:08.599
don't own a car.
537
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:11.599
Your mom doesn't own a car, right, so Marcus had
538
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.039
to bring out So why did we find you with
539
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.240
a car key in your pocket.
540
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:20.000
It wasn't in my pocket. I don't even though they
541
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:23.519
said that was laying on the ground. It's yours. Yeah,
542
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:27.119
it should have been my hide. Yeah, it's yours.
543
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:31.079
It's your car key, okay, because it goes to or
544
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:33.559
Escape and your mom's name are covered in walk ashop.
545
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:39.759
Okay, it was in Darrell. I'm trying to be as
546
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:43.119
open and honest with you as I can be. You
547
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:46.160
know I'm Christian too, and believe me, I'm not perfect,
548
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:47.640
and neither are you.
549
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.759
And I'm not calling you a terrible man. I'm not
550
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:54.079
saying you were out yesterday hunting and just let me
551
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:57.000
finish it. But you did not walk to that house.
552
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.880
You did not walk to that house. You did not
553
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:05.480
come here in a tankia. It didn't you know, you
554
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:07.119
did not come out here in a tankia.
555
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.759
Okay. You've got a key in your pocket to a
556
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:18.079
car and your mom's name, okay, and that key works
557
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:25.599
for that car. For the love of God, Marcus, for yourself,
558
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:29.880
for your family, you know what happened yesterday? For the people,
559
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:35.200
Tell me what happened. Well, what with the car.
560
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:38.200
With them not being with.
561
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:41.880
Your mom's car? You're driving goofy. People called in. You
562
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:44.119
drove out of there in your mom's car, the red car.
563
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:46.839
You're driving a little silly, probably because you're pitt You
564
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.960
met up with Erica in the car at the park. Well,
565
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:52.759
initially I believe you told us the gas station.
566
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:54.839
Do I have that right? And then you changed it
567
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:59.400
to the park. So that's as the house was by
568
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:03.480
the gas day when you said, you said, what was
569
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.079
I said you went it was by a gas station.
570
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:08.480
That's where you met her. No, no, no, no, I said,
571
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:09.400
I met her at the park.
572
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:14.359
Okay, you met her at the park in your mom's car,
573
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:20.680
a red Ford escape. She got in, you talked, and
574
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:22.319
what you're telling me seems pretty.
575
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.759
Consistent that there was nothing physical between the two. But
576
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.400
you met her in the car. I didn't put my
577
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.559
hands on her, nothing, But you met her in the car.
578
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:36.279
What's going on? Man? Ask you a question? Just be
579
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.680
you work out there. Some people said you were driving
580
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:43.960
kind of crazy. We got reports of it. You got
581
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.720
the key, you got the car, Did you take the car?
582
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:51.079
Did your mom give you the car? I know you
583
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.279
know what car I'm talking about. I just all I'm
584
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:57.200
saying is this we all been straight up with each other.
585
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.960
You knew it was more to which you was asking
586
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.119
me yesterday. Did that would explain, That would explain the
587
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:10.000
FBI and all that.
588
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:14.800
Right, they're not here today. So if it's that big
589
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:18.280
a deal, you don't see him here today, come car.
590
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:24.719
We've been we've been. You're just messing the car and
591
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:28.280
we've been cool man the whole time. If I did something,
592
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.079
if I did something, we're here. But do you see
593
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:34.239
him here today? They're not here today. But y'all lied
594
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:36.679
to me. Man, you may it seem like they just
595
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:39.320
come for no reason. Well, here's the thing, the album,
596
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:42.199
And I'm like, what if if it's some day for
597
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.199
a minute, I'll give you. I can give you a
598
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.280
clean swing because you have lied to us as well,
599
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.760
because you came out here in the red Ford Escape. Okay,
600
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:56.840
that is what you came out here, and you had
601
00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:58.519
to keep right.
602
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:02.280
So what I want to do is try to give
603
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.400
us all a chance to reset. I'm saying what I'm saying,
604
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:11.320
start over, because you're not giving us accurate story.
605
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:13.000
He didn't write out.
606
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:16.840
With Marcus in a tan car. You said your mom
607
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.719
doesn't have a car. I've just told you you've disproven that,
608
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.280
all right, I don't know what kind of woman she is.
609
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.519
I don't know what you all been through, what you
610
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.480
were seeing in the car, driving, kind of driving, kind of.
611
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:35.599
Acting a fool, okay, and basically the same area that
612
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:39.320
you've already been able to describe for me. I'm just
613
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.159
trying to figure out how and why it happened, What
614
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:42.960
made your tear.
615
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:43.199
Out of there?
616
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.760
What made you so mad where you're like and you're
617
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.440
raced on out of there, and then people call man,
618
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:49.719
this guy's he's driving around.
619
00:35:49.760 --> 00:36:02.599
You're kind of fast about women. Know, Like I said,
620
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:12.199
y'all being cool with me in my charge with anything.
621
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.639
That's all I want to know. I'll tell you anything
622
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:21.559
you want to know. Right now. I'm listening. I was
623
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:27.719
you were driving this listen, listen, listen. No, I don't drink.
624
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:33.519
That had a couple of cold ones. Yeah yeah, But
625
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:37.000
I'm saying the hard alcohol, it's not my thing. I
626
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.800
was not drunk. When you get the blood, that is
627
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.639
not gonna be any alcohol anything thac for sure, because
628
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:47.119
I smoke, and if it stays in your system for
629
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.079
thirty days, then it's gonna be in there. No hard alcohol.
630
00:36:51.079 --> 00:37:01.280
I wasn't drunk, Okay. All I was saying was it
631
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:08.280
just felt like less railroad this dude, cause it it.
632
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:13.320
That's how it felt when the whole process yesterday. And
633
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.719
I know you guys are a little bit different than Milwaukee.
634
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:19.159
Y'all would never two different departments, two different things, I
635
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:23.119
get it. But Milwaukee would have just been like, look,
636
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:28.119
I wanna talk to you about this district you charged
637
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:29.840
with this and this and this this what you're looking at,
638
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.519
which y'all was kind of like, y'all know, but y'all
639
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:34.039
just not gonna say that. There were a lot of
640
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.440
things going on yesterday, that's not alike. A lot of
641
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:43.280
officers were busy on other stuff, so they were they knew,
642
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:45.679
they knew you had talked to her, but they they were.
643
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:52.280
She didn't call it. She didn't say I hit her addition, yesterday, no, yeah,
644
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.519
cause I'm like, I did not. So that's if we
645
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.159
shall know that that much. I did not put my
646
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:01.440
hands on this woman at all. Not a chunk, not
647
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.599
a kick, not a slap, not a punch, not a push,
648
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:08.159
not a graph. It's not yesterday, right, right, I did
649
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:12.360
not touch her, right, So what you had you so mad?
650
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.039
Cause you had your mom's car or I don't know
651
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.840
if you use it? Who uses If you got the
652
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:19.800
key in the car, is it hers? Is it yours
653
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:20.559
that she wants to use.
654
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.800
Let's clean that part up. Whose car is it?
655
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:29.400
It's my mom's car? Okay? How often do you drive it? Uh?
656
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:39.679
Not very much. It's the red fod escape. It's so
657
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:45.840
all I don't wanna know. Please it just please. Whatever
658
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.519
you can't tell me, I understand, I understand. All I
659
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:53.400
wanna know is just just so I can have a
660
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.599
piece of mind, just just for my girls. Man, Let
661
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:58.519
am I let your family members? No one's.
662
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:00.480
You got.
663
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.840
You got some injuries, right.
664
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:07.360
Yeah, that was just you you from after you drove away.
665
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.119
Some people had to get checked out at the hospital.
666
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:13.239
And they're all right, they had to get checked out.
667
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:16.840
What you mean, you know what I'm talking about. You
668
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:19.679
have to get checked out. You mean after you left yesterday,
669
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.599
after you drove off. Okay, you kind of tore out
670
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.079
of there and you were upset. There are a lot
671
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:27.199
of like you said, there were there's some people around
672
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:31.679
and you know, a couple of injuries to some people's legs.
673
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:34.599
I know you were driving the car all right, But
674
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:36.320
just we're trying to understand.
675
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:38.119
What happened.
676
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:43.199
What would what would Darrell want Ben to say to me?
677
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:48.719
If we're upset and there was an accident, and that's
678
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:53.440
what you was alluding to, right, if it was your
679
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:54.519
mom or your kids.
680
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.599
Well, I mean you were just telling me how concern
681
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.079
you are about your your daughter's right, right, concerning your
682
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:05.119
mom and you're concerned about So what is it that
683
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:09.639
you think that we're alluding to? Because you're concerned about
684
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:11.880
going away for a long time. You've been hunged up
685
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:16.760
for domestics before, and you post bail, you go about busy.
686
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.440
You know, while you're on bail, you can have a job,
687
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:20.239
and you go about, you go back to your home.
688
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.480
You know that. Why why are you You were just
689
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:25.199
telling me before I stepped down all that you were
690
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.760
concerned about going away for a long time. Why why
691
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.159
do you feel that way? I feel that way because
692
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:35.159
I already have an open case. I'm not even sentenced
693
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.199
on that yet. I was supposed to get sentenced on
694
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:43.079
the eleventh. But everything is, you know, getting pushed back
695
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.320
for one reason or another. But that case should have
696
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:50.440
been already I was already looking for like Okay, cool,
697
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.880
I'm gonna have some sense of normal normal ty again,
698
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:57.280
because probation that's like a bail jumpion chair. Though what
699
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.599
your other case, if you violated your other case, that's
700
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.599
not they'll jumping. Doesn't push you away for a long time. No, no, no,
701
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:09.119
no no. I'm saying my open case was dealing with
702
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:15.199
possession of a firearm. Okay, so technically they can send
703
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.519
me away for that. That's what they were talking about
704
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:21.039
before when it was I was initially going through it,
705
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.639
and then over time they kind of, you know, softened
706
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:28.079
their stance because I had sat so long in the
707
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:30.920
House of Correction that by the time I actually got
708
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:32.679
to a certain point in that case, they were just
709
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:36.559
kind of like, we got four hundred cases. My judge
710
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.079
had four hundred cases backed up that was supposed to
711
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:41.760
go to trial because of Kobe, cause nobody was getting
712
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:45.320
a ninety day speedy trial bringing. So he kept having
713
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.199
to push it back, to push it back, and push
714
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:49.079
it back, and push it back and push it back.
715
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:53.239
You're worried about that, I'm worried about whatever this domestic
716
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:57.119
stuff and whatever's going on with this time in to that,
717
00:41:57.760 --> 00:41:59.800
and it's just like, well, we don't.
718
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.280
We don't tie it all in, We don't tie it
719
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:04.920
all into it. I'm not you know, I'm not worried
720
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.559
about what's going on out there. But you know, when
721
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.400
I'm asking you, is you care about your family, care
722
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:11.280
about your mom?
723
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:17.079
You don't care about what I'm what I'm asking. What
724
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:23.280
I'm asking you about yesterday? Okay, after you left, isn't
725
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:26.159
to me?
726
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:31.199
Isn't an end of the world thing. She's simply asking you. Well,
727
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.199
I mean, so why do you react that way? Why
728
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:38.400
do you react bail jumping? I'm not talking about a
729
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:42.000
bail jumping. I'm talking about so when you left, Okay,
730
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:47.800
you came out here, you had your bomb's car right
731
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.639
all right, And I think you were angry and you
732
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.039
left and you were trying.
733
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:56.880
To get the hell away from her because she drives
734
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:01.639
you crazy. She just makes you and you're not familiar
735
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:04.239
with the area. Did right? Not right?
736
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.519
You weren't out, I'm not you know, I'm not saying
737
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:09.760
you're you're a terrible guy.
738
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.159
And then you were out on some quest other than
739
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:14.480
necessarily to get out of it.
740
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:20.159
Okay, but you brought the car out. Did she give
741
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:24.679
it to you or did you take it. That's Milwaukee.
742
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:26.079
I mean, I don't if you took it, you took it,
743
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:27.199
I can't do anything about it.
744
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:31.239
Don't take I don't take anything from anybody, so she'd
745
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:34.360
let you to use it. I didn't take anything from anybody,
746
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:41.760
So you raasy because he's a penalty to walk the show.
747
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:48.800
We should be able to do it eventually. Yeah, she'd
748
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:52.360
be able to release it. It's her vehicle, so you
749
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.440
said she couldn't drive. Though she can't, she would have
750
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:57.199
somebody to help her. No, I was just saying we
751
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:01.599
shouldn't be able to you'd be able to do back, y'all,
752
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:05.199
or not even get it back. Will should be able
753
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.199
to do it? Well, yeah, I guess get it back?
754
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:11.679
Mm hmm. So is the impound or is the evidence?
755
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:16.239
Is he a toe line? Is he? I mean that's
756
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:18.719
that's not against the investigation to tell me that either. No,
757
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:21.119
it's yeah, didn't walk. Sure right now, it's currently in
758
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.320
the police custody. I don't know if it's a toll
759
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:26.360
yard in police custody or that, and they notify her,
760
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.760
don't talk to her. You shouldn't be able to do
761
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:32.559
mm hmmm.
762
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:34.440
Mm hmm.
763
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:42.719
Absolutely, my thing, my thing, Like I said, Man, y'all
764
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.119
get strangled with me. I'm not trying. My thing is
765
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:51.840
you think is like I don't. I just want her
766
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:55.760
to be honest about her part. Don't make it seem
767
00:44:55.840 --> 00:45:01.760
like I came out here to to beat you up
768
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.880
or to fight you, or to do anything aggressive to you,
769
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:08.519
because if that's if that was the case, it would
770
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:10.480
have been people would have been out there like yo,
771
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:15.079
these guys out here beating up this girl in front
772
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:18.760
of everybody. You know what I'm saying, get it out
773
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:20.800
by of here, Like you know what I'm saying, It
774
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:24.079
would have been that if that was oh, I'm intending
775
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:28.119
to come be billy blah blah blah. And she know
776
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.840
that she know that's not even me. Well, this makes
777
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:33.000
me feel better to know that she's getting reinterviewed too.
778
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:35.000
I know you want her to tell the truth, just
779
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.199
like we ate Doune started talking to you last night
780
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.760
and then we came back. Well do it. It's a
781
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:43.920
detective gooth and detective parent, I believe. Don't quote me
782
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:46.199
on that. I know they talked to her yesterday. They
783
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:48.000
were gonna go back and talk to her again today.
784
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.599
Knowing that we know now that's why my partner and
785
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:54.559
I gotta make those phone calls. This is what he's saying,
786
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:57.559
that's what she is saying. I get that's only part
787
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:06.360
of what happened yesterday. So yeah, yeah, So this is
788
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:20.840
my thing between me and you being what if it
789
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:25.559
wasn't me driving, what was it you? What if it
790
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:37.679
was my mom's trip but I wasn't driving. What if
791
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:45.400
it was you? What if it wasn't me, who else
792
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:48.800
would it be? That's what I'm That's what I'm asking,
793
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:51.840
not not asking you who else would it be?
794
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:52.079
Brother?
795
00:46:52.199 --> 00:47:01.119
Just asking what if I knew? Would not be ast
796
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:07.039
to give that information? Well, I said, where you're together truth?
797
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:13.679
So if somebody else was driving a car, yeah, I
798
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.239
would want to know with the car, so we go
799
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:20.320
talk to that person. But a huge part of that
800
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.199
is going to be your honesty with it. Right now.
801
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:29.320
I was just asking because you know, you know you've
802
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:32.320
already figured out you're not you're not, you're not. You're
803
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:37.840
a smart guy. I see that. You know that we've
804
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:43.440
been working on us, and you know that we're getting
805
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:49.159
hearing for the honesty portion of it. Yes, And my
806
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:52.559
partner already explained that you know he's not. We're not
807
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.800
looking at obstruction or getting in trouble for that, you
808
00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:58.840
know what I mean, because yeah, okay, you have five
809
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:00.960
done some stuff. Not the end of the world where
810
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:04.519
people feeling I get it, because of self preservation. You
811
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.719
just don't want to be charged with something that I
812
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.239
didn't do, because that's what they always do, and they
813
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:14.159
make you either pay your way out or fight your
814
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.760
way out of the situation that you never should have had.
815
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:19.880
I don't think that that part of it is fair
816
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:25.360
because at the end of the day, that's if you
817
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:28.480
gotta spend money, that's money spend that you never you
818
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:30.320
might have had something else that you had to do
819
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:36.440
that's gone, or you may have to do something else
820
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.480
that you might and you know what I mean, It's
821
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:42.440
just the situation is crazy because it's like you gotta
822
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:48.039
it's either with Hi Milwaukee and what I've seen all
823
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:50.360
the time, it's either either word you see some guys
824
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:54.199
like for example, I know a friend and somebody who's
825
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:56.920
like his girl like this, Oh he stole my gun.
826
00:48:56.960 --> 00:49:01.400
He stole my firearm, proof of it, know nothing. He
827
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:06.440
gets thrown in jail and they make him she oh yeah,
828
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:11.039
will well, well no, well, I don't think he was him.
829
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:14.159
They didn't now, but y'all was just fighting and you
830
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.239
said it was him to do it. Gave them the
831
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:18.800
guy's name and all that. They came and arrested him,
832
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:21.920
but then they ended up not processing the charge. But
833
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:26.920
he was charged with the depth of the firearm already
834
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:32.960
being the felling. And it's like that carried ten years
835
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:37.239
just because somebody said and then went back and said, oh,
836
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:43.360
will hear you don't want so. I don't want to
837
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:45.960
go sit up in here for that right. You don't
838
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:47.760
want to get timed up for something you did not do.
839
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.840
I'm not your first police contact, the first time we've talked.
840
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:56.880
You don't got to trust me. I understand the natural distrust.
841
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:00.199
I mean, at least I hope whether you're try trust
842
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.480
me or not, I hope you the least. I'm trying
843
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:04.960
to respect you, and I hope that so that can
844
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.000
give me a true even if we don't necessarily true
845
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.599
trust went. I don't want to charge you with anything
846
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:12.920
you didn't do. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
847
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.719
That's a fact, because they do that a lot, and
848
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:19.400
they'd be like the guy when I when I had
849
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:26.119
this domestic with IRPI that's about to get dismissed. The
850
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:28.440
guy was saying the same thing, Oh well, we're just
851
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:31.719
trying to And when when I get to county, I
852
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:40.280
have so many charges, like everything, I had charge after charge,
853
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:41.760
at the charge, at the charge, at the charge. And
854
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:44.920
I'm like, where did all these charges come from? If
855
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:49.599
she's gonna if she's gonna tell them I was drunk
856
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.239
mad and I just said this and that, which she
857
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:59.800
did so for why did y'all charge me with all
858
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.320
all these charges? It seems like poor police work. Yeah,
859
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:08.760
And it's like, what in the hell did I get
860
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:14.599
charged with artist for it? If the person is basically
861
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:19.239
saying it was BS And I'm not gonna cooperate with
862
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.320
nodding she's not. I'm not coming to courts. I'm not
863
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.760
doing any of this, which means they're gonna have to
864
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:28.880
just miss the case. But it's just the hassle of
865
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.280
happen to go through. That's money spent that I can't
866
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:34.280
get back. That's time in jail spent that I can't
867
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.159
get back. I had to sit all that time, I
868
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:41.400
had to lose some stuff just because just because somebody
869
00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:46.119
said something, not this, not okay, we caught this dude
870
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:49.320
in the act. We can prove that he did this,
871
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:54.679
We can prove that he did that just some Oh
872
00:51:54.760 --> 00:52:01.679
I was drunk and angry. Sometimes, you know, even if
873
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:03.719
we can prove I mean, you kind of alluded to
874
00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:08.920
this where you understand it is, sometimes we can prove something,
875
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:12.079
but that doesn't help us understand the why or those
876
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.719
circumstances or the reasons, you know what I mean. And
877
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.880
that's why people get asked to tell us those things.
878
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.000
That way, there is a fuller understanding of those reasons.
879
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:26.800
And it's not just blindly this guy did it, and
880
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:30.039
let's assume the worst about it did it because that's
881
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.800
what I felt like just now, like when he now's
882
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:41.079
I'm starting getting clear picture, Like, okay, so somebody obviously
883
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:47.480
got hurt. Somebody somewhere in these hell situation got hurt.
884
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.280
That's one me. That's how he had and he making
885
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:55.400
me seem like it's one me that is gonna lead
886
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:59.239
to a charge, is it on you? No, That's what
887
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:02.719
I'm trying to say. But the charge, even the assumption
888
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:06.599
of even maybe and somebody have to pay or fight
889
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.840
they wait, I more in prison time on top of
890
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:17.400
already facing prison time at my age. It's a lot
891
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:21.519
to handle knowing what I got out there, you know
892
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:27.719
what I mean, knowing that I'm looking at not it's
893
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:32.119
no guarantee you're even gonna see tomorrow. So, like, who
894
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:34.239
wanted to have they last moments in a place like
895
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.360
this or in the sale somewhere or in the jail somewhere.
896
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.519
And you got beautiful girls out there that you want
897
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:42.599
to see grow up. My sister never got a chance
898
00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:45.440
to see her kids grow up, and she passed away. Sure,
899
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:49.239
you know. So it's like it's just daunting, cause it's
900
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:51.840
just like, oh my god, man, you know what I mean.
901
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:56.480
It's it's it's hurtful. So you you brought that up
902
00:53:56.840 --> 00:53:59.960
where you don't want to see anybody where are those
903
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:02.639
I'll straight a man, you.
904
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:04.920
Don't want to see anybody get hurt or sorry, you
905
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:08.360
don't if anybody get charged or something that didn't do.
906
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:13.519
But you already brought up too that if somebody.
907
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:18.760
Did something, that they should be held accountable for it,
908
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.920
and that you're willing to accept responsibility with it's can
909
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.639
I show you something you look like you can't fail me?
910
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:33.880
Or something. No, No, I'm not feeling that you. That's you. Nah,
911
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:38.159
I got no. It looked like whoever looked like great
912
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:43.239
right there, it's in your face. No, that's not me,
913
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:47.400
that's not you. That's not me. That's not you. No,
914
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:56.480
I don't, that's a direct. That's you. That's why you
915
00:54:56.480 --> 00:55:00.360
say it like that, man, because we talked about the honesty.
916
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:02.800
You could tell me that you you tell, you tell
917
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:05.880
the truth when you did do something, You're taking car
918
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:15.760
when you do do something? Is your mom's car again?
919
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:29.199
Is your mama car? Mom's car again? Next to a child,
920
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:32.599
which I know you care a lot about children, next
921
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:41.800
to a child from you something, it's your mom's car. Yeah,
922
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:43.400
I was just asking him about.
923
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:47.679
My about that's your mom's car that we took the
924
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:48.639
key for from you.
925
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:55.079
So you can't tell me at this point I'm playing
926
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:57.440
any games anymore? You know. I didn't. I didn't say
927
00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:01.400
he was playing games from you do gas. Last night
928
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:06.159
I felt like it was It wasn't no, it wasn't
929
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:10.519
the flu. It was just I knew that y'all knew
930
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:13.239
more than what y'all was saying. And I felt like
931
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:17.039
last night, with that whole you know them coming in
932
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:19.559
the way they did. And if I'm sitting there on
933
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:21.599
the thing and I'm watching them more fans like what
934
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:26.000
in there and seeing that, I just felt like, Okay,
935
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:29.760
y'all already know what y'all want to do with y'all.
936
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:33.199
You know what I'm saying, y'all just want I didn't
937
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:35.199
know what y'all wanted. It just seemed like y'all knew
938
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:37.679
more than what y'all was gonna tell me. It was
939
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.280
more so like I felt like I was being railroaded
940
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:44.159
to be like, Okay, tell me this, but we already
941
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:48.239
know over here what we're gonna do. We already know
942
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:51.039
what we're gonna do right here. We just want you
943
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:53.280
to tell them yourself and say you did this and
944
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:56.320
did that, so we can already justify what we already
945
00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:58.960
want to do it. It's like, Okay, you showed me pictures,
946
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:02.039
but you're not telling me what I'm facing. You know
947
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:04.679
what you're facing. I don't. That's the hope. That's what
948
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:08.559
you drove down a parade ro You got a pretty
949
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:10.320
good idea what you're facing. You see what I'm saying.
950
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:13.239
So now this is more stuff coming out. Man. When
951
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:15.679
we told you. We were looking for that explanation and
952
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:18.679
that's you. And all I'm saying is all somebody you
953
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:20.800
gotta do is just tell me what I'm facing. I
954
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:24.599
tell you, guys, whatever you want to know. I said
955
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:31.239
that three four times and he's like, Yo, So Drew,
956
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:33.159
what were you thinking when he went driven driving to
957
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:37.039
this person? Why am I facing? That's all I want
958
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:39.679
to know. I don't have no problem talking with you guys.
959
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:41.519
People you got people injured that I have to go
960
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:45.559
to the hospital. So they're saying I injured somebody, or
961
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:51.880
you're saying I injured somebody. Yeah, so I'm looking at
962
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:55.480
the very least. Yeah, the very least people got hurt.
963
00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:58.199
That's requisite. I don't know exactly what they're gonna classify it. Yeah,
964
00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:02.840
people had legs broken where you may have hurt somebody
965
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:05.199
like your actions. You did hurt somebody like your actions.
966
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:08.599
So what I'm not being charged me? That's what I'm
967
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:11.800
trying to I don't know exactly. I don't know all
968
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:14.519
of the details. You're not gonna get that out of me.
969
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:15.000
I'm sorry.
970
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:19.280
I've explaining to you. You're driving down there, You're you're
971
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.239
looking at people, got hurt. People got some broken legs,
972
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:26.440
and y'all saying that's me. I know that's you because
973
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:28.119
I can recognize you. I can tell it to you.
974
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:32.320
And that's your mom's car. If you had the key
975
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:36.800
for it, I can idea you. I'm just asking you
976
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:37.800
to be honest.
977
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:43.119
About it, be honest about what I'm facing. What do
978
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:48.800
you think you're facing? What do you think hypothetically? I mean,
979
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:53.000
you've been through this gamut before, right and y'all knew
980
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:54.719
I was getting charged with you from day once. So
981
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:56.719
why y'all couldn't just charge me and take me to
982
00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:59.559
Tommy Jail where y'all was gonna take me now? Because
983
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:01.199
because you wanted.
984
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:01.199
To tell.
985
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:08.159
No, I'm saying, but and I'm not trying y'all still,
986
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:11.159
I'm not tripping with y'all because y'all being straight up,
987
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:14.760
so I'm not. I'm not, But I'm saying, y'all knew
988
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:17.519
this already. Why y'all just didn't take me to Why
989
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:19.800
y'all just didn't do what y'all had to do. Here's
990
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:22.480
here's where you're at right now, and it's like you
991
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:25.199
take me through to get me to do something that
992
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:29.760
y'all already can I speak, here's where you're at. Okay,
993
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:33.159
I'll tell you straight, here's where you're at. One of
994
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:36.000
two people did this, and I mean that from a
995
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:38.159
human perspective.
996
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:43.639
There's a god fearing Christian who loves his kids in
997
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:44.840
his mind that you say.
998
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:46.960
You are and I want to believe you are. And
999
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:51.159
in many ways you've presented yourself as who went out,
1000
00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:54.519
got in a fight with his girl, argument whatever you
1001
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:58.039
want to call it, and went and just done screwed up.
1002
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:05.880
Or there's the malicious guy, the malicious guy who who's.
1003
01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:08.559
Lied to me about his love for God, who's lied
1004
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:10.559
to me about his love for his mother, who's.
1005
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:13.639
Lied to me about his life. Spinn it's one of
1006
01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:16.559
those two people, man's I'm just saying, don't speak. Don't
1007
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:18.639
spin it, man, because I'm not which one are you
1008
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:21.519
not going to spin it? Which guy are you? I'm
1009
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:23.719
the god fearing guy that you've been talking to since
1010
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:26.079
last night. And tell me the truth about you know it.
1011
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:29.320
You know that until you know truth about driving down there,
1012
01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:31.960
tell me what I'm facing. I've just told you some
1013
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:40.079
of what you're facing. Some that's almost like saying to somebody,
1014
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:41.960
you want me to give you the entire case with
1015
01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:44.840
you don't give it not doing that, that's not to
1016
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:47.239
do that. That's not what I'm asked. Yes you are,
1017
01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:51.480
I'm not when I'm talking about perspective. I'm when I'm
1018
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.599
talking about perspective true somewhere in the middle all that.
1019
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:56.400
That's how I see what you're saying. You've got me
1020
01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:58.559
doing August and that, which I'll sit up here and
1021
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:01.840
coming here whatnot. I'm not blaming it on you guys,
1022
01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:08.840
not which plies do this every single time, even when
1023
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:13.079
you try to be the you try, you try to
1024
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:16.440
be straight up with them, you try to tell them
1025
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:18.119
the truth. You try to do all this and that,
1026
01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:22.840
and they steal real roach you're not every single time,
1027
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:26.480
you're not trying to tell me the truth. It's not
1028
01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:29.480
even now, it don't go. You're put on this, serve
1029
01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:35.199
to obey, do us right, be true to your Lord
1030
01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:38.559
and savior so you live in the Promised Land in
1031
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:43.039
your next life. So I'm not saying if you're talking
1032
01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:45.920
about prison, I'm not saying that's where anyone wants to be.
1033
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:53.199
I'll acknowledge that, right, But part of being here is
1034
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:56.599
about doing the right thing so you can be righteous
1035
01:01:56.599 --> 01:01:59.599
for eternity. Right, that's what they tell us, right, that's
1036
01:01:59.599 --> 01:01:59.880
what they do.
1037
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:00.760
Right.
1038
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:06.320
Do you believe that I do? So? Why? And you
1039
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:09.239
know that's what I'm saying, I believe that's the world.
1040
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:14.280
Why I believe that so much is if you wouldn't
1041
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:20.079
known everything that I've been through in life, just to
1042
01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:24.920
even be sitting here, like, it's probably a lot of
1043
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:29.559
times where I probably shouldn't even be here. I don't
1044
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:31.960
doubt you haven't had easy and I can insider here
1045
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:34.199
and tell your half. It's a lot of times where
1046
01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:38.360
I'm not going to pretend to understand what you're thinking. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
1047
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:44.119
it's man, I've I've made a lot of mistakes, you know,
1048
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:49.920
a lot of mistakes. And you know one one thing
1049
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:54.800
I would never intentionally do is hurt anyone. Okay, not
1050
01:02:55.079 --> 01:03:05.559
intentionally Okay. I would never ever hurt anyone. Okay, not
1051
01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:13.840
especially not my family, kids, anything like that, not my
1052
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:19.119
child's mother, anything. That's that's not how I was raised.
1053
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:25.199
That's not who I am to intentionally cause hurt. Never
1054
01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:30.079
defending myself to something totally different, because I will defend
1055
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:37.639
myself to the fullest, but it's not that's not who
1056
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:42.119
I am. To intentionally hurt people or try to hurt people.
1057
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:48.159
It's not my intention, it's not And I made a
1058
01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:52.119
lot of mistakes, man, just in life in general. Man,
1059
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:56.360
I just feel like almost forty years old and I'm
1060
01:03:56.400 --> 01:03:59.360
still going through case after case after case. It's almost
1061
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:05.039
enough to just be like they hit it, man, they whitted.
1062
01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:10.280
Just let me. Just let me go. Man, you know
1063
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:14.559
what I mean? This, the more and more shit that
1064
01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:19.079
pole up, you know, it's just like, what the do
1065
01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:22.679
I have to live with? I'm not I'm not gonna
1066
01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:25.440
I'm not gonna spend my life in prison. I die first.
1067
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:29.559
So what are you telling me? I'm telling you my
1068
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:33.360
life is over. My life is over. This is how
1069
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:35.599
my story ends from trying to be in love with
1070
01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:42.719
somebody that didn't let me back. And it's crazy, man,
1071
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:50.840
because since it's not the person that I am, man,
1072
01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:54.400
my intentions for me now with her wasn't to earn
1073
01:04:54.519 --> 01:05:02.679
her or anybody else. I promise you that I'm not.
1074
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:08.519
I'm not a person that I don't. I don't go
1075
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:11.079
out harming people. I don't go out ribbing and taking
1076
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:13.960
anything from people. I don't break into people's stuff. I
1077
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:18.800
don't steal from people. I don't sell I don't beat
1078
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:23.960
people up. I don't ride around with weapons or walk
1079
01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:26.760
around with guns and thinking I'm getting back that I
1080
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:31.559
don't do that. That's that's not who I am. That's
1081
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:36.079
not the type of that I do. Right, I get it.
1082
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:43.320
Situations is because to make bad decisions. That's why people
1083
01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:48.639
got hurt. I don't wish for anybody to be hurt
1084
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:53.239
one year with everything, Listen, listen, man, my intentions is
1085
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:56.320
not to ever hurt or harm assault. That's not the
1086
01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:58.440
type of person I am. That's not how I was raised.
1087
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:05.119
That's not how I was raised. I was not intending
1088
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:10.360
to meet up with her to harm her for anybody else.
1089
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:16.039
That is not who I was. Not drinking, I do smoke.
1090
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:18.760
Do I have mental health issues?
1091
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:19.159
Yes?
1092
01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:22.199
I do. Am. I'm supposed to be on medication. Yes,
1093
01:06:22.280 --> 01:06:24.760
I am supposed to be on What am I supposed
1094
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:24.960
to be?
1095
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:27.320
Right?
1096
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.599
The last one I was taking that I remember the
1097
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:32.760
name is, but I was just on something else that
1098
01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:35.480
I can't remember. The name too, is the T some
1099
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:38.960
type of T name might just stop. I stopped because
1100
01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:42.559
I felt like I was in a better space mentally.
1101
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:47.039
That's all. Without it, Without it, you almost felt like
1102
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:49.119
it didn't benefit You were better not taking it to
1103
01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:51.519
taking it. I was better off not taking it to
1104
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:55.320
taking it because when I smoked, finday, it kind of
1105
01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:59.079
gives me the same as effect as medication. And my mom,
1106
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.400
who works in the health field, she would even tell me,
1107
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:04.920
that's why you smoke because I'm not, like I said,
1108
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:07.199
it is not like a I smoke all day, every day,
1109
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:09.280
all day, every day, all day, every day. It's not that.
1110
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:14.800
But she noticed, is that that's why you don't take
1111
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:17.920
your medication anymore? Is because you've been smoking, and I
1112
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:20.199
noticed the same effect. She would know. She's been in
1113
01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:23.000
the hellfield over forty years, sure, so she would know.
1114
01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:28.480
What are you diagnosed with? Bipolar? Manic, depressive, schizophrenic, severely
1115
01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:34.039
depressed PTSD? Okay, and these I used to get s
1116
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:38.159
side checks and I've been I've been in mental institutions
1117
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:44.320
until last time. It's been a minute. But I can't
1118
01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:55.320
tell you this. I should if this looking at this,
1119
01:07:55.320 --> 01:08:01.000
this is what you wanted me to see, right, you
1120
01:08:01.159 --> 01:09:07.399
pray right? It's crazy, yo, rry don't go so where
1121
01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:11.199
so where did the gray sweatshirt come from? I don't
1122
01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:11.720
know what'd you do?
1123
01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:12.039
With him.
1124
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:17.199
They said they found they found a car or wasn't
1125
01:09:17.239 --> 01:09:20.079
It wasn't any car. I'm not sure. I don't know
1126
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:22.800
what all their phone in the car. They were mostly
1127
01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:28.840
concerned with the phone. You don't that wouldn't running over
1128
01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:31.680
the phone check check this out though the phone would
1129
01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:35.520
be what significance with what would my phone play that
1130
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:45.439
I wasn't in Waukershaw Saturday? Mkay? So once that's w Now,
1131
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:48.079
I got a question on that. Once that's proven because
1132
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:55.119
I was not in Waukershaw on Saturday. If that's if
1133
01:09:55.159 --> 01:10:01.279
that's able to be proving, could that help the charge? Likely?
1134
01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:04.399
But that's all I've done something. It's gotta be seen,
1135
01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:10.680
you know what I mean. So I'm freezing, man, my
1136
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:13.640
shoulders starting to hurt again. Something is wrong. We can shower.
1137
01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:16.239
I know for a fact, something is wrong with the shower.
1138
01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:20.439
It probably wasn't broken like they said. The probably wasn't
1139
01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:22.880
a bone thing, but it's like a tendon or a
1140
01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:27.520
muscle or something in there's something is messed up in
1141
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:36.600
his shoulder. I know it is. I believe it. And
1142
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:38.520
they still don't know who that was. They slam me,
1143
01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:40.800
Yeah they do. I don't. I don't know what to
1144
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:43.239
tell you, but they did the person want to report
1145
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:45.199
and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, there's no way
1146
01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:50.239
I can when find out what they did. That you'll
1147
01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:52.439
find out when when all the reports are done and
1148
01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:54.359
everything's over the record. Whatever. If you're going with the
1149
01:10:54.439 --> 01:11:02.840
court man, YO, just just my copy, you see it right?
1150
01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:06.680
Statement to an officer probst.
1151
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:13.279
I don't know his name, but I've talked to an officer.
1152
01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:20.479
And you you did talk to an officer that that night.
1153
01:11:22.079 --> 01:11:24.119
I talked to an officer on the phone that did
1154
01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:26.399
not talk to an officer that night. I mean, now
1155
01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:28.039
on the phone I did, but not in person.
1156
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:30.800
Mm hmmmm.
1157
01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:42.640
So it was a conversation on the non emergency line.
1158
01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:44.840
Would that be fair to say it was on.
1159
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:48.159
The anonymousis line line. I actually confirmed it after I
1160
01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:53.760
called to make sure I was on anymergency line.
1161
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:57.640
Do you record a description that you gave at that time?
1162
01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:01.359
I do, well, my best best of my knowledge was
1163
01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:04.520
that you were either black, Latino, who's you?
1164
01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:05.720
Or mix? Who's you?
1165
01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:07.760
Answer the question.
1166
01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:09.600
First before you interrupt them with another one.
1167
01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:12.479
Go ahead with the description you provided that night. I
1168
01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:17.960
said that the individual is either black, mixed, or Latino, So.
1169
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:19.319
It would be fair to say you didn't know at
1170
01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:24.479
the time, I was giving a general description. So it'd
1171
01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:25.880
be fair to say that you weren't sure.
1172
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:32.840
I was positive that I was positive as you.
1173
01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:35.239
Who's you?
1174
01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:35.319
You?
1175
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:36.319
I'm looking at you?
1176
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:45.880
And how did you come to that conclusion? That the
1177
01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:50.640
U conclusion I'm looking at you?
1178
01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:51.680
How did you?
1179
01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:54.880
How did you come to that conclusion? Did you what
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can because you restate the question you're saying, You're saying
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that you gave a disc description on the non emergency
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phone line. Correct, it was on a non emergency line,
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01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:10.520
So it be fair to say at that time you
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had no name or knowledge of who the person was
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in your backyard.
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Would that be.
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Fair to say I had no idea who you were?
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And so how can you say?
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How can you say you then if you had no idea,
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I'm looking at you, you're the guy? And how did
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you come to that conclusion?
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You and I were standing in the same yard looking
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at each other.
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So is it possible you saw something on the news?
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No, I had no idea who you were.
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Did you follow the investigation after you had given the
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the report on the non emergency line.
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It's kind of hard not to see it on TV?
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Can I clarfin something?
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MS? Question? Just yet? So right?
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The state will have an opportunity to redirect if they
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even appropriate.
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Mkay, thank you, So you you made reference to it.
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It was kind of hard not to see it on
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the news. Would that be fair to say it was
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all over the news? And would it be fair to
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say that from those news reports you gained additional information
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that you didn't have at night.
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Actually, what I did is went into work the next
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morning and pulled up the police reportment on.
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The internet and there you were in subshot.
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Thank you. Go ahead, said then the jury box.
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Okay, alright, uh, please play the video with the slide one.
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All right, the video has played completely, your honor. I'm
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going to ask to move to slide number two.
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Go ahead. Do you see what's.
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01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:26.159
Shown on slide number two, Detective role, Yes, describe what
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01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:29.479
we're seeing in slide too, upper left hand.
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Corner, you're going to see another still image of the
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original video, and then below that you're going to see
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01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:41.000
a zoomed in, cropped image of the figure that would.
1222
01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:41.800
Be crossing the street.
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01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:48.000
Okay, have you seen this video on other occasions, sir? Yes,
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and obviously, the zoomed in image is quite blurry.
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01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:53.079
Absolutely.
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Okay.
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01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:57.960
When we played slide one, were you able to make
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out any details about the person in slide? I had
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one that was crossing the street?
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Did it?
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Point?
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I'm sorry I missed it.
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01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:16.760
Okay, we'll go to slide next slide. All right, so
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again the camera or straight What are we seeing on
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slide for?
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So again we're seeing a still shot of the previous
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video we just viewed, and then there is a zoom
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01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:33.680
in function below that where it shows a cropped out
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photograph of a figure.
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01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:39.560
Okay, and you've seen this video yourself in person, sir, Yes,
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what do you recall about what you were able to
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01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:46.399
observe about the figure or subject walking there behind the school?
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01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:48.439
Jake? Should we overruled?
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01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:49.520
The witness may answer?
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01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:54.439
The figure moves from right to left through the parking
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lot or north to south up until a fenced.
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Until it gets reaches the fence on the left.
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Side of the picture.
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All right, next slide please slide number five?
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Yes, where's it?
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Six? Five? Okay?
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Please tell us what you recognize this area to be.
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01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:20.399
This is also the lind Home building.
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01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:23.159
This is a camera that is deeper into the parking lot,
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01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:26.239
which means that it will be a closer view of
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the previous video.
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01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:31.800
Okay, I'm gonna ask that we play this clip you're
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on in for the record. It's a total of twenty
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point eight one seconds.
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Go ahead, objection, Your objections noted, Go ahead and play.
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Excuse me, action to the sentence so I can get
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through this and counts seven through sixty seven. On each count,
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I will impose a total sentence of seventeen and a
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half years twelve and a half years of initial confinement
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plus five years of extended supervision consecutive to any other
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01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:45.880
sentence that I've imposed here today. That is seven hundred
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and sixty two and a half years of initial confinement
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and three hundred and five years of extended supervision on
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top of the life sentences that I've imposed. That is
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seventeen and a half years, sir, for Nicole White, seventeen
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and a half years for Eleanor andrews Anders, excuse me,
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seventeen and a half years for Sasha Catalan Castillo, seventeen
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01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:22.720
and a half years for Mara Gilchrist, seventeen and a
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01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:28.840
half years for Justin Golikson seventeen and a half years
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01:19:28.880 --> 01:19:35.000
for Harry Gilfoy, seventeen and a half years for Aiden Lofgren,
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01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:41.239
seventeen and a half years for Theomasa, seventeen and a
1277
01:19:41.279 --> 01:19:46.600
half years for Tyler Pugliner, seventeen and a half years
1278
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:51.760
for Connor Tank seventeen and a half years for Eric Tigues,
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01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:58.920
seventeen and a half years for Adelia Mafioli seventeen and
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01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:03.960
a half years, Kelly Graybau seventeen and a half years
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01:20:04.119 --> 01:20:09.079
for Josh Craaner, seventeen and a half years for Riley
1282
01:20:09.199 --> 01:20:15.479
Rogers seventeen and a half years for Caden Rogers, seventeen
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01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:20.399
and a half years for Tucker Sparks, seventeen and a
1284
01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:26.079
half years for Isabella Bartlett, seventeen and a half years
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01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:32.960
for Yerrezzi, The Sarah Montez seventeen and a half years
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01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:39.399
for Samantha Coelo, seventeen and a half years for Madison Hollingsworth,
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01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:46.039
seventeen and a half years for Mackenzie Hollingsworth, seventeen and
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01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:50.640
a half years for Mitchell Lampine, seventeen and a half
1289
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:56.359
years for Kathleen Peelmeyer, seventeen and a half years for
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01:20:56.520 --> 01:21:02.640
Julia Schleikow seventeen and a half years for Olivia Stover
1291
01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:09.119
seventeen and a half years for Jennifer Stover seventeen and
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01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:14.119
a half years for Jesslyn Torres seventeen and a half
1293
01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:18.960
years for Alice Urrel seventeen and a half years for
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01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:24.399
Charlotte Eurel seventeen and a half years for Vivian Eurel
1295
01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:31.279
seventeen and a half years for Grayson Eurell seventeen and
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01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:35.960
a half years for Lola Hospital seventeen and a half
1297
01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:41.000
years for Tamara Rosen Trader seventeen and a half years
1298
01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:45.960
for Betty Strange seventeen and a half years for Maria
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01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:53.560
Alvarez Dominguez seventeen and a half years for Gregoria Romelia
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01:21:53.840 --> 01:21:59.319
Perez seventeen and a half years for Elliott Hallmark seventeen
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01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:02.880
and a half years for Benjamin Hallmark seventeen and a
1302
01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:07.439
half years for Patrick Heppy seventeen and a half years
1303
01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:11.760
for Lori Loachin seventeen and a half years for Marisol
1304
01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:18.119
Lopez Gutierres, seventeen and a half years for Adare Lopez Rubelar,
1305
01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:24.000
seventeen and a half years for Juan Marquez seventeen and
1306
01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:28.840
a half years for David Marquez, seventeen and a half
1307
01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:33.479
years for William Mitchell, seventeen and a half years for
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01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:39.640
Jason Petloff seventeen and a half years for Margaret Pachulis
1309
01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:46.760
seventeen and a half years for Yamaulette Parlez Alvarez seventeen
1310
01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:52.600
and a half years for Island Parals Alvarez seventeen and
1311
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:58.359
a half years for Ashley Parals Alvarez, seventeen and a
1312
01:22:58.439 --> 01:23:03.640
half years for Jose Heralez Alvarez seventeen and a half
1313
01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:07.840
years for Maria Perez seventeen and a half years for
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01:23:07.920 --> 01:23:13.760
Camilla Perez Gonzales seventeen and a half years for Isaac
1315
01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:20.760
Foglia seventeen and a half years for Deborah Ramirez seventeen
1316
01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:24.560
and a half years for Charles Green, seventeen and a
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01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:28.760
half years for Lily Green seventeen and a half years
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01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:33.279
for Brinley Harris, seventeen and a half years for Kelsey Knapp,
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01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:39.560
seventeen and a half years for Owen. Forciatti on count
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01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:46.039
sixty eight through seventy three, which are the six counts
1321
01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:50.000
of hit and run resulting in death, these are twenty
1322
01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:54.600
five year felonies each. The court will do the following
1323
01:23:56.439 --> 01:23:59.600
on Count sixty eight, a twenty five year total sentence,
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01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:03.199
teen years of initial confinement, ten years of extended supervision.
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01:24:03.560 --> 01:24:04.680
This will be concurrent.
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01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:07.479
Now you've listened. Now go to your thing.
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Welcome to your top true crime hob for the variety
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in episodes you're looking for enjoy what's up?
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Up? Up?
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What your hands where I can see him?
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What your hands up? Hands up? Hands up? Get on
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the ground, Get on the ground. You're thinking of.
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One of the hob.
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What what did I do?
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Summach Robert?
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You guys so much? Your name on it?
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No, okay, us l.
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I just use.
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Oh okay, good blackmail and bread.
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I'll tell you what.
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If everything turns out to be on the up and
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up right for the good, then you'll be on.
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Your way, all right.
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I got.
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I presume Oh no, ask him, Ask him if he
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knows he was on the porch here.
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Yeah, I was using I was using his phone down
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door to door over here. Yeah, I'm sure your shoes, man,
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I was trying to use somebody's phone.
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Where your shoes? My flip flops skiming his house? He
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was seeing he he just gained you a jackie.
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He's identifying folk, lighter skinned, blackmail, dread, red shirt, blue jeans.
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No shoes. Yeah, I did. I did go to the house.
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I went to that house right there, right down the street,
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right here. Where are you coming from?
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Man?
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I was coming from that parade dune. Okay, I know
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a friend now rolling. I think that's a fabulous sighting. Okay,
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I'll tell you what.
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Roll over on your butt, okay, not roll over on
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your butt, roll up on your.
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Knees, roll over on, roll up on your knee.
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Okay.
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Five Elizabeth s five fight.
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Week?
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Did I do something in front of my squad?
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Man?
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Okay?
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Is there anything is gonna stick me?
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No? No, no, not at all, okay, not at all.
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I don't have any red means. Glad to hear it,
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nothing like that. How did you get up over here?
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Man?
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I was coming to see a friend. Yeah, where's your friend?
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Oh? No, now, spin your hand, spind your back, your hands, I.
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Had, yeah, I want you injured it all?
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Dude?
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Yeah? What hurts when when they slammed my knee? I'm
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already have Okay, yes, yes, yes, that's my idea. It
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certainly is. Yes, I'm so cold.
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That's why you.
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Have you got to take for me, so there won't
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be as silly as yesterday. It was an incredibly busy day.
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I know. I'm just come on being straight up the
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whole time. Oh, it's gonna be siller, man, at least
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you know nothing, nothing's broken, right, Yeah? Good? So say,
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well you might win up foreorn though they know what
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they're doing up there to sleep. Okay, you know people right,
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better than if you had a bunch of other people
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around you. Though, better than that. BUTI no, my shrugger
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hurts too bad right now? Uh? They got you some McDonald's.
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I see. Yeah, I couldn't really eat it. Man. What
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they get you where they gets your brefast? Uh? Some
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type of little sound. I didn't even eat it though, Okay,
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all right, was you last night? I did nothing? I
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know they got you something to something from quick trips
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and chips, and so I didn't even eat it. Okay, Yeah,
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I know you said you hadn't eaten since like Saturday.
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So yeah, yeah I tried to, but just kind of
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because you're unsure of what was happening, un insure the
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pain I feel. I'm like, wait and hell, but you
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got something in your system now so that you're not
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just a little bit good. It's said something I know.
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I know the shoulder struggle bad choulders though. Absolutely I
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know something is wrong. I know I know something. Yeah,
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so we'll get to that. But can you spell your
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first name again for me, D A R R E
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L L. So y'all talk to her. We'll yeah, someone did.
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What's your middle girl is? In that case, that's my
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that's my daughter's mama though I love her, nonna, I
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love her to death. Man, we all got somebody. What's
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your middle later on Edward Edward, Yeah, I'm getting it, Brooks.
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I'm sorry, man, it hurts so bad. I'm getting teary eyed. Dude, Like, seriously,
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I know something is wrong. Oh Brooks right, yes, sir, junior, sir, Yes, sir.
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It's your date of birth throughout so you're thirty nine, yes, sir,
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remind me what's your home? A forty four year old
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one four North nineteenth Street. Okay, in then I have
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to because that light doesn't go off in here. We're
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even dim. So I was trying to like didn't even them.
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It didn't even dim. So usually my comfortable side this
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my god, it came in there was like, are you okay?
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I was like, no, yeah, you married Durrell. No, no,
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I supposed to be supposed to be. What's your phone
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numerican four one four, uh, three three nine, five, six
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seven seven. But what's the sixth one on number you
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gave me last night? Uh? That is my direct, Rember.
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What's your direct number? Six one oh two one five
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sorry six one on two two one five three two
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one two five three that's your director? Yes, sir, okay,
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you're not married. What's your girlfriend's name? Erica Patterson? And
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she's your baby mama?
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Yes?
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How many told kids? Yeah? I have three three kids? Yes?
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You were born was in Milwaukee, Detroit, Detroit? Yes, it's
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born in Detroit. Live in Milwaukee, Yes, sir? Uh, last
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grade you completed? What was that? And are you working
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right now? No?
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Not true?
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How long you have been out of work? Let's see
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when did I get locked up from Milwaukee? Uh it's
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a few months. Anything to do with the pandemic that's
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been here. Yeah, that's the reason why. Yeah, yeah, man,
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you smove off. Okay, I got steps lined that though,
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so yeah, whatever, like like what, I'm probably gonna go
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back I was working at a sheet metal place, so
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I'm probably gonna go back there. Okay. That that was
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ideal to you as a stamping or we we do uh,
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I guess they they like steam and paint the metal
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pieces and then like ship on out like car car
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metal parts. The trucks come in and you you love
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the trucks, and then we just hang the metal pieces
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on the the little machine thing that comes around, they
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take 'em. They they the pieces go through like this
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little steamer type machine thing, and then they paint it
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and then they come back around and we just take
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them off the hook and just put them in the box,
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was four on, three off, So that was more ideal
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because that's a great schedule. I I mostly have my
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children the back half of the week, sure, but since
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since all this oten having them every day. So it
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was like, oh, they're your kids. My my son has grown,
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my daughter, my oldest daughter is fourteen, and my youngest
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daughter's seven. You said, your son, well, his son's grown,
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hal team, he's eighteen. They all live with you. Then
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in one well my son doesn't. My son doesn't. Okay, alright,
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that's not no, no, okay, wis who's she moment to?
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All right?
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So okay, so you have three kids, all right? So look, Durell,
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I haven't talked to her personally, I know, so part
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of what happened last night is she was just being strange,
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you know, which because she said she.
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Does that, so we gotta we got a report about
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an altercation between the two of you. Okay, all right,
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But they couldn't They couldn't find her for hours. That's
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part of the reason I didn't know anything for hours.
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He kept asking, right, That's so they couldn't find her
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for hours, and I had.
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To kind of stick with and hang out with you,
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and then I'm just guys are looking for and looking
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for and finally they find her and they talked to her,
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and seems to me based on their conversation where they
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she could be a little out there. You don't know
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how yeah, how many? We don't know how women be?
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You right, have you ever been married?
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No? Have you?
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Baby?
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Mama's are two? Three? Three? Are they all whack or
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just my son's mama is like she's from out this way,
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She's from New Berlin, grew up in Berlin out here, sweetheart. Okay, works,
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takes care of home, sweetheart, and her second son is autistic,
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so she's really really really hands on mom. No issues
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with her at all. Erica is the only one that
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I have problems with. Even my youngest daughter, daughter's mom
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works comes home. Were gonna fight, we donna argue, we
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co parent. I have my daughter most of the time.
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Then you all type of then I have somebody touch you,
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and I'm gonna keep my daughter away from you, and
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I'm gonna make sure you never see her again. And
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you talk to every time y'all bull ringe, I'll hit
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you upside your.
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Head with this pain.
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And just she's even my mom doesn't even like her,
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or you know some of the crazy things they'll say sometimes.
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more clarity. And like I told you last night, every
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now and then you can see it's just the two
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of us.
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There's no one else here. So it's just I know
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there were some other people last night that ed you uncomfortable.
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That's gone, that's all gone. I explained to it. You
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know why that was going on.
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You know us, we're not We're not gonna do nothing
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to you, right, you know, trust worthy, you can be
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comfortable with us. We're in this room, it's just the
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two of us, just the three of us, so we
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can I feel like talk in a more more open way,
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in a more comfortable way where there's not you know,
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there's not anything around that you feel as is strange, right.
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I mean, you got to spend a lot of time
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with us, but the reality is right now, Durell, I
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don't know Erica. I know you've described I didn't speak
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to her. I didn't know her. I've been doing this
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a long time, and you know, I know some of
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you know the domestic.
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Claims they'll make. So again, I'd like to sit down
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and try to shaty and learn a little bit more
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about you and Erica and what makes her tick, both
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when she's on and when more particular she's off, and
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get an idea what's going on and what I consider
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this conversation, Darrell, is more information sharing. I'm not gonna
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sit here and be a total jerk and say talk
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to me and sit here and say nothing.
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I got some ideas on kind.
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Of what she said, but that's all we got, and
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I don't know how accurate what she said might really be.
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And that's why I want to give you an opportunity.
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If she's off the wall and I need to know it,
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to give you a chance to tell me, like I said,
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just the two of us, you know, definitely, you know
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what I'm saying. She needs to be on some type
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of medication. Sure, and she knows this from the ped Like,
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I'll be dealing with her for sixteen years, so this
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isn't just some shit. I just man, I've been knowing
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her for sixteen years. Gotcha going through this with her? Okay,
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So this isn't the first time she she She's even
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told my mom too, I'm gonna get even in the past.
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I'm gonna get him locked up, and then she'll tell
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my mom, Oh, he didn't really do that. I was
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just mad and I was drunk, and my mama was like,
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you know, he got that baby at home or anything?
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But what's the address? Or I had no idea about
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walking shaw? I don't know the street. What was it near?
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I knew you had to see something near it? So
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what was it near? Like a gas station? Have you
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been to the house before? No? Never before? No? What's
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Stephanie's last name? I have no idea, no idea. When
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did you guys set this up? Maybe a couple of
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days ago, Okay, Like I said, I have a few friends.
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I a few friends in Milwaukee D have people out here,
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so it's not I don't, like I said last night,
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I don't know the streets and Walker Shaw's not where
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I usually hang out at. So I couldn't say, well,
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this street, this street, and this you know, I couldn't
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feel like a friend of yours or like a friend
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of a friend, A friend of a friend, my true friend.
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I have no idea. That was my first time meeting.
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So how did you get the number to know the
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house to go to? A friend? A friend? So? How
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did you get to your house? My friend? I went
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with my friend? Okay, who's that my friend? I don't
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really want to say his name. I don't know if
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that's going to incriminate him in anything. So okay, so
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let's go with this. How did you come? I know
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you saw her okay yesterday in Waukee Shaw because we
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talked to her. Now, I don't know everything that went on,
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and I'm saying I believe everything she told the other officers.
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How did you come to meet with her in Waukeshaw
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one and two? You say you don't know a Waukee show?
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But where did you meet her? A gas station? A park?
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I know you met her? Where did you meet her.
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What happened yesterday? Because if this is BS like you say,
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and I know you met her, what happened. I never
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happened when you met her? Where did you meet her?
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Let's start with that. By a gas station? Okay, I
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don't know she have it? Why was she holding she
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she had been holding it for me for a few
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weeks now, but like I said, I hadn't seen her.
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She had seen right, Why did she have it? Why
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was she holding toy? She was just holding it for
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me because I told her to hold you for me.
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But this was it didn't have anything to do with it.
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This was weeks ago. She had been holding the money,
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and because I had no contact with her, I couldn't
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tell her, and my mom wasn't gonna let her come
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to the house to bring And I told her, look, man,
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if I'm gonna be out there, I meet up with
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you and get the money, but I'm not hanging out
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with you. I'm not having to with you. And she
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was just like, oh, you want to tell you. I'm like,
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I'm not finna do none of that. Okay, you know
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what I'm saying. I'm not supposed to be around you.
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I get that. I understand that I'm not gonna lie
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to y'all. I'm not supposed to be around you. I
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love you to death, man, you my baby mom. I'm
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not gonna you know what I'm saying. It wasn't supposed
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to be like a hang out thing.
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I told her.
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I'm like, I'm out here, and she love where you at,
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where you at, where you at, And I'm like, look,
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I meet up with you to get the money and
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you know, get you a hug or whatever. But she
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was like, well, gee, I need something. Can I'm like, no,
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we can't do it all all that. I'm not gonna
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have sex with you. I'm not gonna hang out with
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you or none of that.
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Right, So you told her you weren't. You weren't gonna
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do any of that stuff. No, how did you set
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the meeting out?
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Did you?
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Did you talk to her on the phone, Facebook messager,
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her text message?
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Cause I talked to her. Yeah. I don't think she
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said anything about that. So just I mean, if she's yes,
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how did you? Yeah? Cause I didn't with her, I
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didn't she this is what she does, hold on one
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thing at a time. How did you set the meeting
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with her? That's what That's what I'm saying. She if
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she can't get in touch with me, that's what she'll do.
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She'll go to social media's and do all this and
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try to talk to people and aut this and that.
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I got in contact with her through a mutual friend
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that we both know, and I was like, Okay, tell
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her I'm out in walking shaw or whatever. And I
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meet up with her to get the money. And then
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she put us on the call and she was just
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like where you at? Yeah, And she was just like
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where are you at. I'm like, look, I don't know
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where I'm at. Do you still got that money? She's like, yeah,
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I want to give you the money. And I wanted
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to say I want to do this and do that.
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I'm like, no, I'm not gonna have I'm not gonna
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hang out with you. I'm gonna meet up with you,
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get the money, get you a hugging kids, we'll talk later.
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Was it still daylight? It was still daylighter. It was
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still daylight, so this was I think the game was
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still on. Game was still on. Stuff needs to go.
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The game is still on. So I was like, you
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know what I mean, I wanted to see you. I
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ain't seen you in like a money you know what
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I'm saying. So I'm not gonna lie sert Man, that's
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my baby, mama. I love this woman, but I can't
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hang out with you. I can't do anything with you,
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you know, that type of thing, dealing whatever the case
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may be. But yeah, that and this is on your
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cell phone.
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The tricon obviously is your cell phone, because you're not
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my friend's phone friend's phone.
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Yeah, but yesterday, so do you have your phone? No,
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that's what I'm saying. No, So who is the friend
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whose phone you were using to talk to her? Her
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on a tree a call. I don't want to say
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his name because I don't want to. Okay, I guess
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so you saw her though, right, you met up with her? Okay,
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So how did the conversation with your end with me
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walking off and her being pissed off that I didn't
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want to hang out with her? I said, Look, I'm
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not supposed to be around you. I'm gonna not gonna
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demonize her and make it seem like, you know, she's
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just some some scum cheek of the earth, because she's not.
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It's just the drinking. How long ago did that happen?
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When you just told us about this happened and like
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all get September right, and your mom stopped it. I
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called my mom because I didn't know. Yeah she saw
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hell yeah she saw it all right. So in regards
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to what happened out here with her yesterday, part of
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the reason now it's straight with you that we.
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Asked some of the things we asked. The relic is
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part of what we gotta do. It's act the track too,
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you know, so I know you're telling her, you mean
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she's crazy, she's off the wall.
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Like I said, it's just when she drinks. It's just
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when she drinks. I just wanted you fear. I'm not
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saying she's just some mental basket case. She does when
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she's drunk, her words is she blacks out so she
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doesn't remember. I don't know if that's true, but I
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know she doesn't want a If you talk to her sober, sweetheart,
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crack jous, last, smiling, buddly personality, is hard not to
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like her. We got to one trump. I've even my daughter,
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her family and all that. We've even recorded her drunk
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and played it back for her the next day and
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said this is how you act. And she would be life,
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you know, with somebody that acts like that. So I
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totally understand where you're coming from a mess.
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So on that note, Drell, you know, we just gotta
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we still don't. For us, we don't totally know at
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this point. Usually lie lot of times there's one story
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and there's the other story. A lot of times, I'll
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be honest. Still, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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And that's not necessarily saying you're a liar. She's a liar.
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All the people we talk to our liars, there's a
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there's always perception, all right, And that's why you know what.
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Kind of fact checks, like all right, is what this
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person told me true? It's like, all right, it doesn't
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necessarily seem totally, but I could see how they.
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Perceived this or that, or you know, we fact check
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with someone and say, okay, yeah, this is how that happened.
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That's why I'm asking you some of these questions. What's
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your buddy's name, what's your buddy's phone number? I know
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I know fact because she would have known her if
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I did something to her, she would have called you
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guys immediately, especially drunk, especially with her being drunk, she
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would have let it be known. She would have told
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me off top, she would have told me. And that's
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why I was I'm kind of confused, like, and she
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didn't tell you that she was gonna call content for yesterday?
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What reason was she? Like, That's that's the whole thing.
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I'm thinking, Like, you can't so she know you? Or yeah?
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Well she always every time she's drunk, she says she's
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gonna keep me in trouble. That's like one of her
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her her main themes is when she she tries to
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low blow me, she will take it to you're not
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I'm not gonna let you see your daughter. That's it's usually, Oh,
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I'll get you, I'll get you locked up, I'll get
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you touched, I'll they I'll make you will never see
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your daughter. Yes, yes, yes, what specifically like you ain't
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say you out here and you ain't hanging out with me?
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Right you ain't see now I'm gonna get you locked
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up and I'm not giving you your money locked up? Yes, yes, okay,
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because the money, the money is the reason why I
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even agreed to meet her. Sure, three or fifty is
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worth coming out. So what's your buddy's name? Can we
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get that?
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Have we gotta talk to him to verify you're on
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the up and up and she's on some bs.
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His name is Marquis his last name. I don't know
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his last name. What his phone number? Four six seven? Oh,
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we hope if I have my freaking phone somewhere four
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six seven, uh eighty five, thirty one or thirty or
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something like that. Yes, sir, and he lives in Milwaukee. Yes, sir,
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and you guys came out here together. Yes, Like I said,
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the Stephanie was, she's a she's an older mixed lady,
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so she's not You know, who do you know in Waukee? Shaw?
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I know a guy named Tyrion. I don't know where
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he lives now I met. I've been knowing him for
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maybe five six years. I just know he stays in Walkershaw.
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He comes down to Milwaukee a lot, and then he
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comes back up here. I don't how old is he.
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I'm like thirty four thirty five. Maybe I know a
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lot of I know a lot of females. Well, how
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many times have you Venitarian's house once in like twenty eighteen,
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You remember it was like it was like an apartment.
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It wasn't the house though, apartment do you remember what
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was near it? I think it was like right on
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the main street. What's the main street. There's a lot
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of light streets like whatever whatever street w would be
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considered downtown, the bars and restaurants strip. It's stepping ways
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here downtown, a lot of bars and business and you're there.
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The only thing I can remember it is a gas station,
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like a TV quarter gas station. I think this street
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is like a one way. Whatever street is right here
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is like a one way, and it's a gas station
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like right here. What the mould of the speedway? Quick trip? Hometown?
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Not a quick trip? Not a speedway like the blue
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and white one blue? When any schools or parks nearby
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our house? Something like that? Anything you remember like that? Trails?
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I know the I know that park. I know that
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park is by Uh. I just said because I don't
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really know Stephans like that. It's my friends, friend or
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partner or whatever whatever the case may be. Day was
447
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getting into it about pretty much the same thing that
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I was getting into it with Erica about. I was
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just like him, him, who's him? Marcus? Him? Her and
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whoever else? Steady was there? Yeah at her house. Yeah,
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a few girls that I didn't know, but Dad already
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said it was gonna be people over here. Okay, all right.
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So I was pissed because I feel like I just
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met up with her, with my baby's mama. I just
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met up with her for absolutely nothing. So you you
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tell me, okay, you out here in Walkenshaw, I'm out here,
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let's meet up. I got your money. And then I
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walk over here and you don't have the money, or
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you do or you don't. You just ain't gonna give
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it to me, however the case may be. So I'm
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just like, okay with every well who I'm I just
462
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got into it with it now, y'all into it like man,
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he's tripping whatever. Lest oh, I'm like nah nah O'Day
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uh no. Years Okay, I'm gonna be straight with you
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because you've been asking me for that all along. That
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doesn't make sense. And listen to me. Okay, just listen
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to me.
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You go to this house, you leave. It was that
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wind was cold as hell at first.
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Well by by the time it was getting later in
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the day.
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I mean after the Packer game, you're talking three thirty
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four o'clock, it was getting cold.
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I was outside for a while. Yeah, about like, so
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by the time you're talking, it was getting cold. All right,
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Marcus is ready to leave because being crazy, He's like,
477
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I'm out. You just went through the same experience from
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what you're telling you live. I don't know. I mean,
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I totally about me way up. I know you don't
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know exactly what happened. But who are you going to
481
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trust more, Marcus, who you know him for years? Or Stephanie?
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Why would you walk away?
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Walk all the way down to where you did leave
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your phone in the apartment?
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Apparently? How long what you're saying and go down to
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where you were and not take the ride back to Milwaukee?
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You follow what I'm saying, right? Can you understand? I
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don't know. I don't know if back to Milwaukee though,
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I don't know if you did that, But how are
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you going to get back if you don't get in
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the car? I called it uber, That's what I did.
492
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So what happened? How did you get all the way
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to where you went? Because there's all these businesses in
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between where you were and where you got to. How
495
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did you end up at a random house without your
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shoes and your phone? Drill, this is what I'm saying.
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I had my flip flops on. I had them right,
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Just say where did they go? I don't know. I'm
499
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knocked on two doors, not just the one. So you
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had your flip flops. I had my green bag Tacker
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flip flops on. Yes, green Bay pack. That's what I'm saying.
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I didn't. I wasn't just walking around with no shoes.
503
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That didn't happen until after the fact. That's what I'm
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trying to say. Like it's like, it's another question I
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would have for you is if you had your phone too? Correct? Yeah,
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you didn't leave that part. No, That's why I was
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telling you what you should have been on the grass.
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Remember I described the phone to you. I said, it's black,
509
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it has a crash screen. Yep. Yeah. Why are you
510
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.480
asking other people to use their phones? Why my phone
511
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was dead? Okay? When did it die? I have no idea. Okay,
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And I didn't have the charger, but you used it
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for the three way call, and now I used his
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phone for the three way call. Like I said, we
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got a mutual friend named Michelle me and Airica do.
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I've known Michelle just as long as I've known Erica.
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She was the one that was telling me, what's going
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on with you and your baby mama? Y'all not talking
519
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because she's trying to get in touch with you. I said, yeah,
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I know, I know, she probably trying to get in
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touch with me. Will often emerge, y'all. That's how I
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ended up talking to her and telling her I'll, you know,
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I'll walk over and meet you to get the money
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or whatever you need, to hug you, just whatever. I
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had my flip flops on. Then I wasn't, like I said,
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I wasn't, just because the ways he was making it
527
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seem like I was just running around with no shoes
528
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to begin with. It's like, no, I mean it was
529
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pretty cold here to have a jacket. Well, I didn't
530
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have a jacket to begin with. I didn't have a
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jacket to begin with. But I'm saying my shoes I
532
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had flipsolutely, So help you. God, right, I'm familiar. We've
533
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all heard that, right, And I just have concerns fact
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check that Durrell's not telling me the truth. You don't
535
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have a car, so Marcus had to bring out you
536
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don't own a car.
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Your mom doesn't own a car, right, so Marcus had
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to bring out So why did we find you with
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a car key in your pocket.
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It wasn't in my pocket. I don't even though they
541
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said that was laying on the ground. It's yours. Yeah,
542
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it should have been my hide. Yeah, it's yours.
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It's your car key, okay, because it goes to or
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Escape and your mom's name are covered in walk ashop.
545
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Okay, it was in Darrell. I'm trying to be as
546
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open and honest with you as I can be. You
547
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know I'm Christian too, and believe me, I'm not perfect,
548
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:47.640
and neither are you.
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And I'm not calling you a terrible man. I'm not
550
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:54.079
saying you were out yesterday hunting and just let me
551
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finish it. But you did not walk to that house.
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You did not walk to that house. You did not
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come here in a tankia. It didn't you know, you
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did not come out here in a tankia.
555
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.759
Okay. You've got a key in your pocket to a
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car and your mom's name, okay, and that key works
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for that car. For the love of God, Marcus, for yourself,
558
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for your family, you know what happened yesterday? For the people,
559
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Tell me what happened. Well, what with the car.
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With them not being with.
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Your mom's car? You're driving goofy. People called in. You
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drove out of there in your mom's car, the red car.
563
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You're driving a little silly, probably because you're pitt You
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met up with Erica in the car at the park. Well,
565
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initially I believe you told us the gas station.
566
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:54.839
Do I have that right? And then you changed it
567
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:59.400
to the park. So that's as the house was by
568
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:03.480
the gas day when you said, you said, what was
569
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.079
I said you went it was by a gas station.
570
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:08.480
That's where you met her. No, no, no, no, I said,
571
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:09.400
I met her at the park.
572
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:14.359
Okay, you met her at the park in your mom's car,
573
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:20.680
a red Ford escape. She got in, you talked, and
574
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:22.319
what you're telling me seems pretty.
575
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.759
Consistent that there was nothing physical between the two. But
576
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.400
you met her in the car. I didn't put my
577
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.559
hands on her, nothing, But you met her in the car.
578
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:36.279
What's going on? Man? Ask you a question? Just be
579
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.680
you work out there. Some people said you were driving
580
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:43.960
kind of crazy. We got reports of it. You got
581
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.720
the key, you got the car, Did you take the car?
582
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:51.079
Did your mom give you the car? I know you
583
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.279
know what car I'm talking about. I just all I'm
584
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:57.200
saying is this we all been straight up with each other.
585
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.960
You knew it was more to which you was asking
586
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.119
me yesterday. Did that would explain, That would explain the
587
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:10.000
FBI and all that.
588
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:14.800
Right, they're not here today. So if it's that big
589
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:18.280
a deal, you don't see him here today, come car.
590
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:24.719
We've been we've been. You're just messing the car and
591
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:28.280
we've been cool man the whole time. If I did something,
592
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.079
if I did something, we're here. But do you see
593
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:34.239
him here today? They're not here today. But y'all lied
594
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:36.679
to me. Man, you may it seem like they just
595
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:39.320
come for no reason. Well, here's the thing, the album,
596
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:42.199
And I'm like, what if if it's some day for
597
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.199
a minute, I'll give you. I can give you a
598
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.280
clean swing because you have lied to us as well,
599
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.760
because you came out here in the red Ford Escape. Okay,
600
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:56.840
that is what you came out here, and you had
601
00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:58.519
to keep right.
602
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:02.280
So what I want to do is try to give
603
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.400
us all a chance to reset. I'm saying what I'm saying,
604
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:11.320
start over, because you're not giving us accurate story.
605
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:13.000
He didn't write out.
606
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:16.840
With Marcus in a tan car. You said your mom
607
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.719
doesn't have a car. I've just told you you've disproven that,
608
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.280
all right, I don't know what kind of woman she is.
609
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.519
I don't know what you all been through, what you
610
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.480
were seeing in the car, driving, kind of driving, kind of.
611
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:35.599
Acting a fool, okay, and basically the same area that
612
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:39.320
you've already been able to describe for me. I'm just
613
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.159
trying to figure out how and why it happened, What
614
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:42.960
made your tear.
615
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:43.199
Out of there?
616
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.760
What made you so mad where you're like and you're
617
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.440
raced on out of there, and then people call man,
618
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:49.719
this guy's he's driving around.
619
00:35:49.760 --> 00:36:02.599
You're kind of fast about women. Know, Like I said,
620
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:12.199
y'all being cool with me in my charge with anything.
621
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.639
That's all I want to know. I'll tell you anything
622
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:21.559
you want to know. Right now. I'm listening. I was
623
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:27.719
you were driving this listen, listen, listen. No, I don't drink.
624
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:33.519
That had a couple of cold ones. Yeah yeah, But
625
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:37.000
I'm saying the hard alcohol, it's not my thing. I
626
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.800
was not drunk. When you get the blood, that is
627
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.639
not gonna be any alcohol anything thac for sure, because
628
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:47.119
I smoke, and if it stays in your system for
629
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.079
thirty days, then it's gonna be in there. No hard alcohol.
630
00:36:51.079 --> 00:37:01.280
I wasn't drunk, Okay. All I was saying was it
631
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:08.280
just felt like less railroad this dude, cause it it.
632
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:13.320
That's how it felt when the whole process yesterday. And
633
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.719
I know you guys are a little bit different than Milwaukee.
634
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:19.159
Y'all would never two different departments, two different things, I
635
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:23.119
get it. But Milwaukee would have just been like, look,
636
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:28.119
I wanna talk to you about this district you charged
637
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:29.840
with this and this and this this what you're looking at,
638
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.519
which y'all was kind of like, y'all know, but y'all
639
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:34.039
just not gonna say that. There were a lot of
640
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.440
things going on yesterday, that's not alike. A lot of
641
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:43.280
officers were busy on other stuff, so they were they knew,
642
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:45.679
they knew you had talked to her, but they they were.
643
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:52.280
She didn't call it. She didn't say I hit her addition, yesterday, no, yeah,
644
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.519
cause I'm like, I did not. So that's if we
645
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.159
shall know that that much. I did not put my
646
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:01.440
hands on this woman at all. Not a chunk, not
647
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.599
a kick, not a slap, not a punch, not a push,
648
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:08.159
not a graph. It's not yesterday, right, right, I did
649
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:12.360
not touch her, right, So what you had you so mad?
650
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.039
Cause you had your mom's car or I don't know
651
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.840
if you use it? Who uses If you got the
652
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:19.800
key in the car, is it hers? Is it yours
653
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:20.559
that she wants to use.
654
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.800
Let's clean that part up. Whose car is it?
655
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:29.400
It's my mom's car? Okay? How often do you drive it? Uh?
656
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:39.679
Not very much. It's the red fod escape. It's so
657
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:45.840
all I don't wanna know. Please it just please. Whatever
658
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.519
you can't tell me, I understand, I understand. All I
659
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:53.400
wanna know is just just so I can have a
660
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.599
piece of mind, just just for my girls. Man, Let
661
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:58.519
am I let your family members? No one's.
662
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:00.480
You got.
663
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.840
You got some injuries, right.
664
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:07.360
Yeah, that was just you you from after you drove away.
665
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.119
Some people had to get checked out at the hospital.
666
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:13.239
And they're all right, they had to get checked out.
667
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:16.840
What you mean, you know what I'm talking about. You
668
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:19.679
have to get checked out. You mean after you left yesterday,
669
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.599
after you drove off. Okay, you kind of tore out
670
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.079
of there and you were upset. There are a lot
671
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:27.199
of like you said, there were there's some people around
672
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:31.679
and you know, a couple of injuries to some people's legs.
673
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:34.599
I know you were driving the car all right, But
674
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:36.320
just we're trying to understand.
675
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:38.119
What happened.
676
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:43.199
What would what would Darrell want Ben to say to me?
677
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:48.719
If we're upset and there was an accident, and that's
678
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:53.440
what you was alluding to, right, if it was your
679
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:54.519
mom or your kids.
680
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.599
Well, I mean you were just telling me how concern
681
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.079
you are about your your daughter's right, right, concerning your
682
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:05.119
mom and you're concerned about So what is it that
683
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:09.639
you think that we're alluding to? Because you're concerned about
684
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:11.880
going away for a long time. You've been hunged up
685
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:16.760
for domestics before, and you post bail, you go about busy.
686
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.440
You know, while you're on bail, you can have a job,
687
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:20.239
and you go about, you go back to your home.
688
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.480
You know that. Why why are you You were just
689
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:25.199
telling me before I stepped down all that you were
690
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.760
concerned about going away for a long time. Why why
691
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.159
do you feel that way? I feel that way because
692
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:35.159
I already have an open case. I'm not even sentenced
693
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.199
on that yet. I was supposed to get sentenced on
694
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:43.079
the eleventh. But everything is, you know, getting pushed back
695
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.320
for one reason or another. But that case should have
696
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:50.440
been already I was already looking for like Okay, cool,
697
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.880
I'm gonna have some sense of normal normal ty again,
698
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:57.280
because probation that's like a bail jumpion chair. Though what
699
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.599
your other case, if you violated your other case, that's
700
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.599
not they'll jumping. Doesn't push you away for a long time. No, no, no,
701
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:09.119
no no. I'm saying my open case was dealing with
702
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:15.199
possession of a firearm. Okay, so technically they can send
703
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.519
me away for that. That's what they were talking about
704
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:21.039
before when it was I was initially going through it,
705
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.639
and then over time they kind of, you know, softened
706
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:28.079
their stance because I had sat so long in the
707
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:30.920
House of Correction that by the time I actually got
708
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:32.679
to a certain point in that case, they were just
709
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:36.559
kind of like, we got four hundred cases. My judge
710
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.079
had four hundred cases backed up that was supposed to
711
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:41.760
go to trial because of Kobe, cause nobody was getting
712
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:45.320
a ninety day speedy trial bringing. So he kept having
713
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.199
to push it back, to push it back, and push
714
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:49.079
it back, and push it back and push it back.
715
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:53.239
You're worried about that, I'm worried about whatever this domestic
716
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:57.119
stuff and whatever's going on with this time in to that,
717
00:41:57.760 --> 00:41:59.800
and it's just like, well, we don't.
718
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.280
We don't tie it all in, We don't tie it
719
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:04.920
all into it. I'm not you know, I'm not worried
720
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.559
about what's going on out there. But you know, when
721
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.400
I'm asking you, is you care about your family, care
722
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:11.280
about your mom?
723
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:17.079
You don't care about what I'm what I'm asking. What
724
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:23.280
I'm asking you about yesterday? Okay, after you left, isn't
725
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:26.159
to me?
726
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:31.199
Isn't an end of the world thing. She's simply asking you. Well,
727
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.199
I mean, so why do you react that way? Why
728
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:38.400
do you react bail jumping? I'm not talking about a
729
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:42.000
bail jumping. I'm talking about so when you left, Okay,
730
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:47.800
you came out here, you had your bomb's car right
731
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.639
all right, And I think you were angry and you
732
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.039
left and you were trying.
733
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:56.880
To get the hell away from her because she drives
734
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:01.639
you crazy. She just makes you and you're not familiar
735
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:04.239
with the area. Did right? Not right?
736
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.519
You weren't out, I'm not you know, I'm not saying
737
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:09.760
you're you're a terrible guy.
738
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.159
And then you were out on some quest other than
739
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:14.480
necessarily to get out of it.
740
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:20.159
Okay, but you brought the car out. Did she give
741
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:24.679
it to you or did you take it. That's Milwaukee.
742
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:26.079
I mean, I don't if you took it, you took it,
743
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:27.199
I can't do anything about it.
744
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:31.239
Don't take I don't take anything from anybody, so she'd
745
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:34.360
let you to use it. I didn't take anything from anybody,
746
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:41.760
So you raasy because he's a penalty to walk the show.
747
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:48.800
We should be able to do it eventually. Yeah, she'd
748
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:52.360
be able to release it. It's her vehicle, so you
749
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.440
said she couldn't drive. Though she can't, she would have
750
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:57.199
somebody to help her. No, I was just saying we
751
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:01.599
shouldn't be able to you'd be able to do back, y'all,
752
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:05.199
or not even get it back. Will should be able
753
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.199
to do it? Well, yeah, I guess get it back?
754
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:11.679
Mm hmm. So is the impound or is the evidence?
755
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:16.239
Is he a toe line? Is he? I mean that's
756
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:18.719
that's not against the investigation to tell me that either. No,
757
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:21.119
it's yeah, didn't walk. Sure right now, it's currently in
758
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.320
the police custody. I don't know if it's a toll
759
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:26.360
yard in police custody or that, and they notify her,
760
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.760
don't talk to her. You shouldn't be able to do
761
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:32.559
mm hmmm.
762
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:34.440
Mm hmm.
763
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:42.719
Absolutely, my thing, my thing, Like I said, Man, y'all
764
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.119
get strangled with me. I'm not trying. My thing is
765
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:51.840
you think is like I don't. I just want her
766
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:55.760
to be honest about her part. Don't make it seem
767
00:44:55.840 --> 00:45:01.760
like I came out here to to beat you up
768
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.880
or to fight you, or to do anything aggressive to you,
769
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:08.519
because if that's if that was the case, it would
770
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:10.480
have been people would have been out there like yo,
771
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:15.079
these guys out here beating up this girl in front
772
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:18.760
of everybody. You know what I'm saying, get it out
773
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:20.800
by of here, Like you know what I'm saying, It
774
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:24.079
would have been that if that was oh, I'm intending
775
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:28.119
to come be billy blah blah blah. And she know
776
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.840
that she know that's not even me. Well, this makes
777
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:33.000
me feel better to know that she's getting reinterviewed too.
778
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:35.000
I know you want her to tell the truth, just
779
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.199
like we ate Doune started talking to you last night
780
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.760
and then we came back. Well do it. It's a
781
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:43.920
detective gooth and detective parent, I believe. Don't quote me
782
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:46.199
on that. I know they talked to her yesterday. They
783
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:48.000
were gonna go back and talk to her again today.
784
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.599
Knowing that we know now that's why my partner and
785
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:54.559
I gotta make those phone calls. This is what he's saying,
786
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:57.559
that's what she is saying. I get that's only part
787
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:06.360
of what happened yesterday. So yeah, yeah, So this is
788
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:20.840
my thing between me and you being what if it
789
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:25.559
wasn't me driving, what was it you? What if it
790
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:37.679
was my mom's trip but I wasn't driving. What if
791
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:45.400
it was you? What if it wasn't me, who else
792
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:48.800
would it be? That's what I'm That's what I'm asking,
793
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:51.840
not not asking you who else would it be?
794
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:52.079
Brother?
795
00:46:52.199 --> 00:47:01.119
Just asking what if I knew? Would not be ast
796
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:07.039
to give that information? Well, I said, where you're together truth?
797
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:13.679
So if somebody else was driving a car, yeah, I
798
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.239
would want to know with the car, so we go
799
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:20.320
talk to that person. But a huge part of that
800
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.199
is going to be your honesty with it. Right now.
801
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:29.320
I was just asking because you know, you know you've
802
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:32.320
already figured out you're not you're not, you're not. You're
803
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:37.840
a smart guy. I see that. You know that we've
804
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:43.440
been working on us, and you know that we're getting
805
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:49.159
hearing for the honesty portion of it. Yes, And my
806
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:52.559
partner already explained that you know he's not. We're not
807
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.800
looking at obstruction or getting in trouble for that, you
808
00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:58.840
know what I mean, because yeah, okay, you have five
809
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:00.960
done some stuff. Not the end of the world where
810
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:04.519
people feeling I get it, because of self preservation. You
811
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.719
just don't want to be charged with something that I
812
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.239
didn't do, because that's what they always do, and they
813
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:14.159
make you either pay your way out or fight your
814
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.760
way out of the situation that you never should have had.
815
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:19.880
I don't think that that part of it is fair
816
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:25.360
because at the end of the day, that's if you
817
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:28.480
gotta spend money, that's money spend that you never you
818
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:30.320
might have had something else that you had to do
819
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:36.440
that's gone, or you may have to do something else
820
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.480
that you might and you know what I mean, It's
821
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:42.440
just the situation is crazy because it's like you gotta
822
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:48.039
it's either with Hi Milwaukee and what I've seen all
823
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:50.360
the time, it's either either word you see some guys
824
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:54.199
like for example, I know a friend and somebody who's
825
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:56.920
like his girl like this, Oh he stole my gun.
826
00:48:56.960 --> 00:49:01.400
He stole my firearm, proof of it, know nothing. He
827
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:06.440
gets thrown in jail and they make him she oh yeah,
828
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:11.039
will well, well no, well, I don't think he was him.
829
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:14.159
They didn't now, but y'all was just fighting and you
830
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.239
said it was him to do it. Gave them the
831
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:18.800
guy's name and all that. They came and arrested him,
832
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:21.920
but then they ended up not processing the charge. But
833
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:26.920
he was charged with the depth of the firearm already
834
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:32.960
being the felling. And it's like that carried ten years
835
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:37.239
just because somebody said and then went back and said, oh,
836
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:43.360
will hear you don't want so. I don't want to
837
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:45.960
go sit up in here for that right. You don't
838
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:47.760
want to get timed up for something you did not do.
839
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.840
I'm not your first police contact, the first time we've talked.
840
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:56.880
You don't got to trust me. I understand the natural distrust.
841
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:00.199
I mean, at least I hope whether you're try trust
842
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.480
me or not, I hope you the least. I'm trying
843
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:04.960
to respect you, and I hope that so that can
844
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.000
give me a true even if we don't necessarily true
845
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.599
trust went. I don't want to charge you with anything
846
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:12.920
you didn't do. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
847
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.719
That's a fact, because they do that a lot, and
848
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:19.400
they'd be like the guy when I when I had
849
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:26.119
this domestic with IRPI that's about to get dismissed. The
850
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:28.440
guy was saying the same thing, Oh well, we're just
851
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:31.719
trying to And when when I get to county, I
852
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:40.280
have so many charges, like everything, I had charge after charge,
853
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:41.760
at the charge, at the charge, at the charge. And
854
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:44.920
I'm like, where did all these charges come from? If
855
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:49.599
she's gonna if she's gonna tell them I was drunk
856
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.239
mad and I just said this and that, which she
857
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:59.800
did so for why did y'all charge me with all
858
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.320
all these charges? It seems like poor police work. Yeah,
859
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:08.760
And it's like, what in the hell did I get
860
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:14.599
charged with artist for it? If the person is basically
861
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:19.239
saying it was BS And I'm not gonna cooperate with
862
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.320
nodding she's not. I'm not coming to courts. I'm not
863
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.760
doing any of this, which means they're gonna have to
864
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:28.880
just miss the case. But it's just the hassle of
865
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.280
happen to go through. That's money spent that I can't
866
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:34.280
get back. That's time in jail spent that I can't
867
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.159
get back. I had to sit all that time, I
868
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:41.400
had to lose some stuff just because just because somebody
869
00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:46.119
said something, not this, not okay, we caught this dude
870
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:49.320
in the act. We can prove that he did this,
871
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:54.679
We can prove that he did that just some Oh
872
00:51:54.760 --> 00:52:01.679
I was drunk and angry. Sometimes, you know, even if
873
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:03.719
we can prove I mean, you kind of alluded to
874
00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:08.920
this where you understand it is, sometimes we can prove something,
875
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:12.079
but that doesn't help us understand the why or those
876
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.719
circumstances or the reasons, you know what I mean. And
877
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.880
that's why people get asked to tell us those things.
878
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.000
That way, there is a fuller understanding of those reasons.
879
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:26.800
And it's not just blindly this guy did it, and
880
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:30.039
let's assume the worst about it did it because that's
881
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.800
what I felt like just now, like when he now's
882
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:41.079
I'm starting getting clear picture, Like, okay, so somebody obviously
883
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:47.480
got hurt. Somebody somewhere in these hell situation got hurt.
884
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.280
That's one me. That's how he had and he making
885
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:55.400
me seem like it's one me that is gonna lead
886
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:59.239
to a charge, is it on you? No, That's what
887
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:02.719
I'm trying to say. But the charge, even the assumption
888
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:06.599
of even maybe and somebody have to pay or fight
889
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.840
they wait, I more in prison time on top of
890
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:17.400
already facing prison time at my age. It's a lot
891
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:21.519
to handle knowing what I got out there, you know
892
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:27.719
what I mean, knowing that I'm looking at not it's
893
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:32.119
no guarantee you're even gonna see tomorrow. So, like, who
894
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:34.239
wanted to have they last moments in a place like
895
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.360
this or in the sale somewhere or in the jail somewhere.
896
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.519
And you got beautiful girls out there that you want
897
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:42.599
to see grow up. My sister never got a chance
898
00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:45.440
to see her kids grow up, and she passed away. Sure,
899
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:49.239
you know. So it's like it's just daunting, cause it's
900
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:51.840
just like, oh my god, man, you know what I mean.
901
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:56.480
It's it's it's hurtful. So you you brought that up
902
00:53:56.840 --> 00:53:59.960
where you don't want to see anybody where are those
903
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:02.639
I'll straight a man, you.
904
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:04.920
Don't want to see anybody get hurt or sorry, you
905
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:08.360
don't if anybody get charged or something that didn't do.
906
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:13.519
But you already brought up too that if somebody.
907
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:18.760
Did something, that they should be held accountable for it,
908
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.920
and that you're willing to accept responsibility with it's can
909
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.639
I show you something you look like you can't fail me?
910
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:33.880
Or something. No, No, I'm not feeling that you. That's you. Nah,
911
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:38.159
I got no. It looked like whoever looked like great
912
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:43.239
right there, it's in your face. No, that's not me,
913
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:47.400
that's not you. That's not me. That's not you. No,
914
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:56.480
I don't, that's a direct. That's you. That's why you
915
00:54:56.480 --> 00:55:00.360
say it like that, man, because we talked about the honesty.
916
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:02.800
You could tell me that you you tell, you tell
917
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:05.880
the truth when you did do something, You're taking car
918
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:15.760
when you do do something? Is your mom's car again?
919
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:29.199
Is your mama car? Mom's car again? Next to a child,
920
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:32.599
which I know you care a lot about children, next
921
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:41.800
to a child from you something, it's your mom's car. Yeah,
922
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:43.400
I was just asking him about.
923
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:47.679
My about that's your mom's car that we took the
924
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:48.639
key for from you.
925
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:55.079
So you can't tell me at this point I'm playing
926
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:57.440
any games anymore? You know. I didn't. I didn't say
927
00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:01.400
he was playing games from you do gas. Last night
928
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:06.159
I felt like it was It wasn't no, it wasn't
929
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:10.519
the flu. It was just I knew that y'all knew
930
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:13.239
more than what y'all was saying. And I felt like
931
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:17.039
last night, with that whole you know them coming in
932
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:19.559
the way they did. And if I'm sitting there on
933
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:21.599
the thing and I'm watching them more fans like what
934
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:26.000
in there and seeing that, I just felt like, Okay,
935
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:29.760
y'all already know what y'all want to do with y'all.
936
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:33.199
You know what I'm saying, y'all just want I didn't
937
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:35.199
know what y'all wanted. It just seemed like y'all knew
938
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:37.679
more than what y'all was gonna tell me. It was
939
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.280
more so like I felt like I was being railroaded
940
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:44.159
to be like, Okay, tell me this, but we already
941
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:48.239
know over here what we're gonna do. We already know
942
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:51.039
what we're gonna do right here. We just want you
943
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:53.280
to tell them yourself and say you did this and
944
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:56.320
did that, so we can already justify what we already
945
00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:58.960
want to do it. It's like, Okay, you showed me pictures,
946
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:02.039
but you're not telling me what I'm facing. You know
947
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:04.679
what you're facing. I don't. That's the hope. That's what
948
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:08.559
you drove down a parade ro You got a pretty
949
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:10.320
good idea what you're facing. You see what I'm saying.
950
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:13.239
So now this is more stuff coming out. Man. When
951
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:15.679
we told you. We were looking for that explanation and
952
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:18.679
that's you. And all I'm saying is all somebody you
953
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:20.800
gotta do is just tell me what I'm facing. I
954
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:24.599
tell you, guys, whatever you want to know. I said
955
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:31.239
that three four times and he's like, Yo, So Drew,
956
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:33.159
what were you thinking when he went driven driving to
957
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:37.039
this person? Why am I facing? That's all I want
958
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:39.679
to know. I don't have no problem talking with you guys.
959
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:41.519
People you got people injured that I have to go
960
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:45.559
to the hospital. So they're saying I injured somebody, or
961
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:51.880
you're saying I injured somebody. Yeah, so I'm looking at
962
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:55.480
the very least. Yeah, the very least people got hurt.
963
00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:58.199
That's requisite. I don't know exactly what they're gonna classify it. Yeah,
964
00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:02.840
people had legs broken where you may have hurt somebody
965
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:05.199
like your actions. You did hurt somebody like your actions.
966
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:08.599
So what I'm not being charged me? That's what I'm
967
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:11.800
trying to I don't know exactly. I don't know all
968
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:14.519
of the details. You're not gonna get that out of me.
969
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:15.000
I'm sorry.
970
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:19.280
I've explaining to you. You're driving down there, You're you're
971
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.239
looking at people, got hurt. People got some broken legs,
972
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:26.440
and y'all saying that's me. I know that's you because
973
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:28.119
I can recognize you. I can tell it to you.
974
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:32.320
And that's your mom's car. If you had the key
975
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:36.800
for it, I can idea you. I'm just asking you
976
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:37.800
to be honest.
977
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:43.119
About it, be honest about what I'm facing. What do
978
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:48.800
you think you're facing? What do you think hypothetically? I mean,
979
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:53.000
you've been through this gamut before, right and y'all knew
980
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:54.719
I was getting charged with you from day once. So
981
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:56.719
why y'all couldn't just charge me and take me to
982
00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:59.559
Tommy Jail where y'all was gonna take me now? Because
983
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:01.199
because you wanted.
984
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:01.199
To tell.
985
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:08.159
No, I'm saying, but and I'm not trying y'all still,
986
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:11.159
I'm not tripping with y'all because y'all being straight up,
987
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:14.760
so I'm not. I'm not, But I'm saying, y'all knew
988
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:17.519
this already. Why y'all just didn't take me to Why
989
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:19.800
y'all just didn't do what y'all had to do. Here's
990
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:22.480
here's where you're at right now, and it's like you
991
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:25.199
take me through to get me to do something that
992
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:29.760
y'all already can I speak, here's where you're at. Okay,
993
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:33.159
I'll tell you straight, here's where you're at. One of
994
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:36.000
two people did this, and I mean that from a
995
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:38.159
human perspective.
996
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:43.639
There's a god fearing Christian who loves his kids in
997
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:44.840
his mind that you say.
998
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:46.960
You are and I want to believe you are. And
999
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:51.159
in many ways you've presented yourself as who went out,
1000
00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:54.519
got in a fight with his girl, argument whatever you
1001
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:58.039
want to call it, and went and just done screwed up.
1002
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:05.880
Or there's the malicious guy, the malicious guy who who's.
1003
01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:08.559
Lied to me about his love for God, who's lied
1004
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:10.559
to me about his love for his mother, who's.
1005
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:13.639
Lied to me about his life. Spinn it's one of
1006
01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:16.559
those two people, man's I'm just saying, don't speak. Don't
1007
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:18.639
spin it, man, because I'm not which one are you
1008
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:21.519
not going to spin it? Which guy are you? I'm
1009
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:23.719
the god fearing guy that you've been talking to since
1010
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:26.079
last night. And tell me the truth about you know it.
1011
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:29.320
You know that until you know truth about driving down there,
1012
01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:31.960
tell me what I'm facing. I've just told you some
1013
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:40.079
of what you're facing. Some that's almost like saying to somebody,
1014
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:41.960
you want me to give you the entire case with
1015
01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:44.840
you don't give it not doing that, that's not to
1016
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:47.239
do that. That's not what I'm asked. Yes you are,
1017
01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:51.480
I'm not when I'm talking about perspective. I'm when I'm
1018
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.599
talking about perspective true somewhere in the middle all that.
1019
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:56.400
That's how I see what you're saying. You've got me
1020
01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:58.559
doing August and that, which I'll sit up here and
1021
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:01.840
coming here whatnot. I'm not blaming it on you guys,
1022
01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:08.840
not which plies do this every single time, even when
1023
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:13.079
you try to be the you try, you try to
1024
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:16.440
be straight up with them, you try to tell them
1025
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:18.119
the truth. You try to do all this and that,
1026
01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:22.840
and they steal real roach you're not every single time,
1027
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:26.480
you're not trying to tell me the truth. It's not
1028
01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:29.480
even now, it don't go. You're put on this, serve
1029
01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:35.199
to obey, do us right, be true to your Lord
1030
01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:38.559
and savior so you live in the Promised Land in
1031
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:43.039
your next life. So I'm not saying if you're talking
1032
01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:45.920
about prison, I'm not saying that's where anyone wants to be.
1033
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:53.199
I'll acknowledge that, right, But part of being here is
1034
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:56.599
about doing the right thing so you can be righteous
1035
01:01:56.599 --> 01:01:59.599
for eternity. Right, that's what they tell us, right, that's
1036
01:01:59.599 --> 01:01:59.880
what they do.
1037
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:00.760
Right.
1038
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:06.320
Do you believe that I do? So? Why? And you
1039
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:09.239
know that's what I'm saying, I believe that's the world.
1040
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:14.280
Why I believe that so much is if you wouldn't
1041
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:20.079
known everything that I've been through in life, just to
1042
01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:24.920
even be sitting here, like, it's probably a lot of
1043
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:29.559
times where I probably shouldn't even be here. I don't
1044
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:31.960
doubt you haven't had easy and I can insider here
1045
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:34.199
and tell your half. It's a lot of times where
1046
01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:38.360
I'm not going to pretend to understand what you're thinking. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
1047
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:44.119
it's man, I've I've made a lot of mistakes, you know,
1048
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:49.920
a lot of mistakes. And you know one one thing
1049
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:54.800
I would never intentionally do is hurt anyone. Okay, not
1050
01:02:55.079 --> 01:03:05.559
intentionally Okay. I would never ever hurt anyone. Okay, not
1051
01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:13.840
especially not my family, kids, anything like that, not my
1052
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:19.119
child's mother, anything. That's that's not how I was raised.
1053
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:25.199
That's not who I am to intentionally cause hurt. Never
1054
01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:30.079
defending myself to something totally different, because I will defend
1055
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:37.639
myself to the fullest, but it's not that's not who
1056
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:42.119
I am. To intentionally hurt people or try to hurt people.
1057
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:48.159
It's not my intention, it's not And I made a
1058
01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:52.119
lot of mistakes, man, just in life in general. Man,
1059
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:56.360
I just feel like almost forty years old and I'm
1060
01:03:56.400 --> 01:03:59.360
still going through case after case after case. It's almost
1061
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:05.039
enough to just be like they hit it, man, they whitted.
1062
01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:10.280
Just let me. Just let me go. Man, you know
1063
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:14.559
what I mean? This, the more and more shit that
1064
01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:19.079
pole up, you know, it's just like, what the do
1065
01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:22.679
I have to live with? I'm not I'm not gonna
1066
01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:25.440
I'm not gonna spend my life in prison. I die first.
1067
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:29.559
So what are you telling me? I'm telling you my
1068
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:33.360
life is over. My life is over. This is how
1069
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:35.599
my story ends from trying to be in love with
1070
01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:42.719
somebody that didn't let me back. And it's crazy, man,
1071
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:50.840
because since it's not the person that I am, man,
1072
01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:54.400
my intentions for me now with her wasn't to earn
1073
01:04:54.519 --> 01:05:02.679
her or anybody else. I promise you that I'm not.
1074
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:08.519
I'm not a person that I don't. I don't go
1075
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:11.079
out harming people. I don't go out ribbing and taking
1076
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:13.960
anything from people. I don't break into people's stuff. I
1077
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:18.800
don't steal from people. I don't sell I don't beat
1078
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:23.960
people up. I don't ride around with weapons or walk
1079
01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:26.760
around with guns and thinking I'm getting back that I
1080
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:31.559
don't do that. That's that's not who I am. That's
1081
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:36.079
not the type of that I do. Right, I get it.
1082
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:43.320
Situations is because to make bad decisions. That's why people
1083
01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:48.639
got hurt. I don't wish for anybody to be hurt
1084
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:53.239
one year with everything, Listen, listen, man, my intentions is
1085
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:56.320
not to ever hurt or harm assault. That's not the
1086
01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:58.440
type of person I am. That's not how I was raised.
1087
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:05.119
That's not how I was raised. I was not intending
1088
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:10.360
to meet up with her to harm her for anybody else.
1089
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:16.039
That is not who I was. Not drinking, I do smoke.
1090
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:18.760
Do I have mental health issues?
1091
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:19.159
Yes?
1092
01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:22.199
I do. Am. I'm supposed to be on medication. Yes,
1093
01:06:22.280 --> 01:06:24.760
I am supposed to be on What am I supposed
1094
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:24.960
to be?
1095
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:27.320
Right?
1096
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.599
The last one I was taking that I remember the
1097
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:32.760
name is, but I was just on something else that
1098
01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:35.480
I can't remember. The name too, is the T some
1099
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:38.960
type of T name might just stop. I stopped because
1100
01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:42.559
I felt like I was in a better space mentally.
1101
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:47.039
That's all. Without it, Without it, you almost felt like
1102
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:49.119
it didn't benefit You were better not taking it to
1103
01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:51.519
taking it. I was better off not taking it to
1104
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:55.320
taking it because when I smoked, finday, it kind of
1105
01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:59.079
gives me the same as effect as medication. And my mom,
1106
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.400
who works in the health field, she would even tell me,
1107
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:04.920
that's why you smoke because I'm not, like I said,
1108
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:07.199
it is not like a I smoke all day, every day,
1109
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:09.280
all day, every day, all day, every day. It's not that.
1110
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:14.800
But she noticed, is that that's why you don't take
1111
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:17.920
your medication anymore? Is because you've been smoking, and I
1112
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:20.199
noticed the same effect. She would know. She's been in
1113
01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:23.000
the hellfield over forty years, sure, so she would know.
1114
01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:28.480
What are you diagnosed with? Bipolar? Manic, depressive, schizophrenic, severely
1115
01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:34.039
depressed PTSD? Okay, and these I used to get s
1116
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:38.159
side checks and I've been I've been in mental institutions
1117
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:44.320
until last time. It's been a minute. But I can't
1118
01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:55.320
tell you this. I should if this looking at this,
1119
01:07:55.320 --> 01:08:01.000
this is what you wanted me to see, right, you
1120
01:08:01.159 --> 01:09:07.399
pray right? It's crazy, yo, rry don't go so where
1121
01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:11.199
so where did the gray sweatshirt come from? I don't
1122
01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:11.720
know what'd you do?
1123
01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:12.039
With him.
1124
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:17.199
They said they found they found a car or wasn't
1125
01:09:17.239 --> 01:09:20.079
It wasn't any car. I'm not sure. I don't know
1126
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:22.800
what all their phone in the car. They were mostly
1127
01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:28.840
concerned with the phone. You don't that wouldn't running over
1128
01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:31.680
the phone check check this out though the phone would
1129
01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:35.520
be what significance with what would my phone play that
1130
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:45.439
I wasn't in Waukershaw Saturday? Mkay? So once that's w Now,
1131
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:48.079
I got a question on that. Once that's proven because
1132
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:55.119
I was not in Waukershaw on Saturday. If that's if
1133
01:09:55.159 --> 01:10:01.279
that's able to be proving, could that help the charge? Likely?
1134
01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:04.399
But that's all I've done something. It's gotta be seen,
1135
01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:10.680
you know what I mean. So I'm freezing, man, my
1136
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:13.640
shoulders starting to hurt again. Something is wrong. We can shower.
1137
01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:16.239
I know for a fact, something is wrong with the shower.
1138
01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:20.439
It probably wasn't broken like they said. The probably wasn't
1139
01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:22.880
a bone thing, but it's like a tendon or a
1140
01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:27.520
muscle or something in there's something is messed up in
1141
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:36.600
his shoulder. I know it is. I believe it. And
1142
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:38.520
they still don't know who that was. They slam me,
1143
01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:40.800
Yeah they do. I don't. I don't know what to
1144
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:43.239
tell you, but they did the person want to report
1145
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:45.199
and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, there's no way
1146
01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:50.239
I can when find out what they did. That you'll
1147
01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:52.439
find out when when all the reports are done and
1148
01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:54.359
everything's over the record. Whatever. If you're going with the
1149
01:10:54.439 --> 01:11:02.840
court man, YO, just just my copy, you see it right?
1150
01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:06.680
Statement to an officer probst.
1151
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:13.279
I don't know his name, but I've talked to an officer.
1152
01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:20.479
And you you did talk to an officer that that night.
1153
01:11:22.079 --> 01:11:24.119
I talked to an officer on the phone that did
1154
01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:26.399
not talk to an officer that night. I mean, now
1155
01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:28.039
on the phone I did, but not in person.
1156
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:30.800
Mm hmmmm.
1157
01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:42.640
So it was a conversation on the non emergency line.
1158
01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:44.840
Would that be fair to say it was on.
1159
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:48.159
The anonymousis line line. I actually confirmed it after I
1160
01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:53.760
called to make sure I was on anymergency line.
1161
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:57.640
Do you record a description that you gave at that time?
1162
01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:01.359
I do, well, my best best of my knowledge was
1163
01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:04.520
that you were either black, Latino, who's you?
1164
01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:05.720
Or mix? Who's you?
1165
01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:07.760
Answer the question.
1166
01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:09.600
First before you interrupt them with another one.
1167
01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:12.479
Go ahead with the description you provided that night. I
1168
01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:17.960
said that the individual is either black, mixed, or Latino, So.
1169
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:19.319
It would be fair to say you didn't know at
1170
01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:24.479
the time, I was giving a general description. So it'd
1171
01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:25.880
be fair to say that you weren't sure.
1172
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:32.840
I was positive that I was positive as you.
1173
01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:35.239
Who's you?
1174
01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:35.319
You?
1175
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:36.319
I'm looking at you?
1176
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:45.880
And how did you come to that conclusion? That the
1177
01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:50.640
U conclusion I'm looking at you?
1178
01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:51.680
How did you?
1179
01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:54.880
How did you come to that conclusion? Did you what
1180
01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:57.600
can because you restate the question you're saying, You're saying
1181
01:12:57.640 --> 01:13:03.640
that you gave a disc description on the non emergency
1182
01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:07.039
phone line. Correct, it was on a non emergency line,
1183
01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:10.520
So it be fair to say at that time you
1184
01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:16.000
had no name or knowledge of who the person was
1185
01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:17.279
in your backyard.
1186
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:17.880
Would that be.
1187
01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:19.840
Fair to say I had no idea who you were?
1188
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:23.359
And so how can you say?
1189
01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:25.680
How can you say you then if you had no idea,
1190
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:31.199
I'm looking at you, you're the guy? And how did
1191
01:13:31.199 --> 01:13:32.359
you come to that conclusion?
1192
01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:36.159
You and I were standing in the same yard looking
1193
01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:36.720
at each other.
1194
01:13:38.439 --> 01:13:43.079
So is it possible you saw something on the news?
1195
01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:45.159
No, I had no idea who you were.
1196
01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:52.239
Did you follow the investigation after you had given the
1197
01:13:52.239 --> 01:13:54.159
the report on the non emergency line.
1198
01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:57.119
It's kind of hard not to see it on TV?
1199
01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:00.000
Can I clarfin something?
1200
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:03.199
MS? Question? Just yet? So right?
1201
01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:05.760
The state will have an opportunity to redirect if they
1202
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:06.680
even appropriate.
1203
01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:16.720
Mkay, thank you, So you you made reference to it.
1204
01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:19.520
It was kind of hard not to see it on
1205
01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:22.439
the news. Would that be fair to say it was
1206
01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:26.520
all over the news? And would it be fair to
1207
01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:31.680
say that from those news reports you gained additional information
1208
01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:32.760
that you didn't have at night.
1209
01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:35.359
Actually, what I did is went into work the next
1210
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:40.359
morning and pulled up the police reportment on.
1211
01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:43.000
The internet and there you were in subshot.
1212
01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:48.800
Thank you. Go ahead, said then the jury box.
1213
01:14:48.880 --> 01:15:11.119
Okay, alright, uh, please play the video with the slide one.
1214
01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:15.159
All right, the video has played completely, your honor. I'm
1215
01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:17.039
going to ask to move to slide number two.
1216
01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:21.800
Go ahead. Do you see what's.
1217
01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:26.159
Shown on slide number two, Detective role, Yes, describe what
1218
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:29.479
we're seeing in slide too, upper left hand.
1219
01:15:29.279 --> 01:15:32.640
Corner, you're going to see another still image of the
1220
01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:35.520
original video, and then below that you're going to see
1221
01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:41.000
a zoomed in, cropped image of the figure that would.
1222
01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:41.800
Be crossing the street.
1223
01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:48.000
Okay, have you seen this video on other occasions, sir? Yes,
1224
01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:52.000
and obviously, the zoomed in image is quite blurry.
1225
01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:53.079
Absolutely.
1226
01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:53.560
Okay.
1227
01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:57.960
When we played slide one, were you able to make
1228
01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:00.199
out any details about the person in slide? I had
1229
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:01.560
one that was crossing the street?
1230
01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:10.840
Did it?
1231
01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:11.119
Point?
1232
01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:13.720
I'm sorry I missed it.
1233
01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:16.760
Okay, we'll go to slide next slide. All right, so
1234
01:16:16.920 --> 01:16:22.880
again the camera or straight What are we seeing on
1235
01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:23.359
slide for?
1236
01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:28.079
So again we're seeing a still shot of the previous
1237
01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:30.720
video we just viewed, and then there is a zoom
1238
01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:33.680
in function below that where it shows a cropped out
1239
01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:34.920
photograph of a figure.
1240
01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:39.560
Okay, and you've seen this video yourself in person, sir, Yes,
1241
01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:41.600
what do you recall about what you were able to
1242
01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:46.399
observe about the figure or subject walking there behind the school?
1243
01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:48.439
Jake? Should we overruled?
1244
01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:49.520
The witness may answer?
1245
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:54.439
The figure moves from right to left through the parking
1246
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:58.479
lot or north to south up until a fenced.
1247
01:16:58.479 --> 01:17:00.640
Until it gets reaches the fence on the left.
1248
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:01.159
Side of the picture.
1249
01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:05.720
All right, next slide please slide number five?
1250
01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:09.479
Yes, where's it?
1251
01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:12.039
Six? Five? Okay?
1252
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:17.520
Please tell us what you recognize this area to be.
1253
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:20.399
This is also the lind Home building.
1254
01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:23.159
This is a camera that is deeper into the parking lot,
1255
01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:26.239
which means that it will be a closer view of
1256
01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:28.079
the previous video.
1257
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:31.800
Okay, I'm gonna ask that we play this clip you're
1258
01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:34.079
on in for the record. It's a total of twenty
1259
01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:36.159
point eight one seconds.
1260
01:17:37.560 --> 01:18:01.399
Go ahead, objection, Your objections noted, Go ahead and play.
1261
01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:20.319
Excuse me, action to the sentence so I can get
1262
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:24.760
through this and counts seven through sixty seven. On each count,
1263
01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:27.960
I will impose a total sentence of seventeen and a
1264
01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:31.880
half years twelve and a half years of initial confinement
1265
01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:39.399
plus five years of extended supervision consecutive to any other
1266
01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:45.880
sentence that I've imposed here today. That is seven hundred
1267
01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:48.960
and sixty two and a half years of initial confinement
1268
01:18:50.279 --> 01:18:53.960
and three hundred and five years of extended supervision on
1269
01:18:54.079 --> 01:18:58.920
top of the life sentences that I've imposed. That is
1270
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:04.560
seventeen and a half years, sir, for Nicole White, seventeen
1271
01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:10.000
and a half years for Eleanor andrews Anders, excuse me,
1272
01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:17.560
seventeen and a half years for Sasha Catalan Castillo, seventeen
1273
01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:22.720
and a half years for Mara Gilchrist, seventeen and a
1274
01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:28.840
half years for Justin Golikson seventeen and a half years
1275
01:19:28.880 --> 01:19:35.000
for Harry Gilfoy, seventeen and a half years for Aiden Lofgren,
1276
01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:41.239
seventeen and a half years for Theomasa, seventeen and a
1277
01:19:41.279 --> 01:19:46.600
half years for Tyler Pugliner, seventeen and a half years
1278
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:51.760
for Connor Tank seventeen and a half years for Eric Tigues,
1279
01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:58.920
seventeen and a half years for Adelia Mafioli seventeen and
1280
01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:03.960
a half years, Kelly Graybau seventeen and a half years
1281
01:20:04.119 --> 01:20:09.079
for Josh Craaner, seventeen and a half years for Riley
1282
01:20:09.199 --> 01:20:15.479
Rogers seventeen and a half years for Caden Rogers, seventeen
1283
01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:20.399
and a half years for Tucker Sparks, seventeen and a
1284
01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:26.079
half years for Isabella Bartlett, seventeen and a half years
1285
01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:32.960
for Yerrezzi, The Sarah Montez seventeen and a half years
1286
01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:39.399
for Samantha Coelo, seventeen and a half years for Madison Hollingsworth,
1287
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:46.039
seventeen and a half years for Mackenzie Hollingsworth, seventeen and
1288
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:50.640
a half years for Mitchell Lampine, seventeen and a half
1289
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:56.359
years for Kathleen Peelmeyer, seventeen and a half years for
1290
01:20:56.520 --> 01:21:02.640
Julia Schleikow seventeen and a half years for Olivia Stover
1291
01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:09.119
seventeen and a half years for Jennifer Stover seventeen and
1292
01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:14.119
a half years for Jesslyn Torres seventeen and a half
1293
01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:18.960
years for Alice Urrel seventeen and a half years for
1294
01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:24.399
Charlotte Eurel seventeen and a half years for Vivian Eurel
1295
01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:31.279
seventeen and a half years for Grayson Eurell seventeen and
1296
01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:35.960
a half years for Lola Hospital seventeen and a half
1297
01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:41.000
years for Tamara Rosen Trader seventeen and a half years
1298
01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:45.960
for Betty Strange seventeen and a half years for Maria
1299
01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:53.560
Alvarez Dominguez seventeen and a half years for Gregoria Romelia
1300
01:21:53.840 --> 01:21:59.319
Perez seventeen and a half years for Elliott Hallmark seventeen
1301
01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:02.880
and a half years for Benjamin Hallmark seventeen and a
1302
01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:07.439
half years for Patrick Heppy seventeen and a half years
1303
01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:11.760
for Lori Loachin seventeen and a half years for Marisol
1304
01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:18.119
Lopez Gutierres, seventeen and a half years for Adare Lopez Rubelar,
1305
01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:24.000
seventeen and a half years for Juan Marquez seventeen and
1306
01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:28.840
a half years for David Marquez, seventeen and a half
1307
01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:33.479
years for William Mitchell, seventeen and a half years for
1308
01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:39.640
Jason Petloff seventeen and a half years for Margaret Pachulis
1309
01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:46.760
seventeen and a half years for Yamaulette Parlez Alvarez seventeen
1310
01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:52.600
and a half years for Island Parals Alvarez seventeen and
1311
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:58.359
a half years for Ashley Parals Alvarez, seventeen and a
1312
01:22:58.439 --> 01:23:03.640
half years for Jose Heralez Alvarez seventeen and a half
1313
01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:07.840
years for Maria Perez seventeen and a half years for
1314
01:23:07.920 --> 01:23:13.760
Camilla Perez Gonzales seventeen and a half years for Isaac
1315
01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:20.760
Foglia seventeen and a half years for Deborah Ramirez seventeen
1316
01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:24.560
and a half years for Charles Green, seventeen and a
1317
01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:28.760
half years for Lily Green seventeen and a half years
1318
01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:33.279
for Brinley Harris, seventeen and a half years for Kelsey Knapp,
1319
01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:39.560
seventeen and a half years for Owen. Forciatti on count
1320
01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:46.039
sixty eight through seventy three, which are the six counts
1321
01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:50.000
of hit and run resulting in death, these are twenty
1322
01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:54.600
five year felonies each. The court will do the following
1323
01:23:56.439 --> 01:23:59.600
on Count sixty eight, a twenty five year total sentence,
1324
01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:03.199
teen years of initial confinement, ten years of extended supervision.
1325
01:24:03.560 --> 01:24:04.680
This will be concurrent.
1326
01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:07.479
Now you've listened. Now go to your thing.