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Jim Jordan, a Republican congressman from Ohio, wants to be speaker of the House. But he has a problem. From 1986 to 1994, Jordan was the assistant wrestling coach at Ohio State University. Several men who wrestled for OSU during those years say Jordan knew that the team doctor, Richard Strauss, was molesting members of the team. Jordan says he knew nothing about it. He swears that if he’d known, he would have rushed to inform the authorities. Accusations such as these can be hard to adjudicate.
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00:00:01Here's today's spoken edition of slate the jordan rules by william saletan jim jordan a republican congressman from ohio wants to be speaker of the house but he has a problem from nineteen eighty six to nineteen ninety four jordan was the assistant wrestling coach at ohio state university and
00:00:27several men who wrestled for os you during those years say jordan knew that the team doctor richard strauss was molesting members of the team Jordan says he knew nothing about it he swears that if he had known he would have rushed to inform the authorities accusations such as
00:00:46these can be hard to adjudicate even when those who are accused did know something it's sometimes difficult to decide how harshly to judge them But in this case it's easy jordan has clarified the rules by which we should evaluate him there the rules he applies in judging others
00:01:06one you're responsible for what happens on your watch In two thousand thirteen jordan berated then fbi director robert mueller for not knowing details about an fbi investigation of the i r s last fall after miller took charge of the russia investigation jordan's suggested that muller was corrupt because
00:01:29he was quote running thie f b i when the whole uranium one deal was going down and quote at a hearing last week jordan accused deputy attorney general rod rosenstein of redacting information from documents in order to deceive congress he also claimed that rosenstein had told fbi agent
00:01:51peter strays arc not to answer questions from congress Rosenstein explained that he'd given strays are no such instructions nor had he made the redactions Jordan dismissed these excuses reminding rosenstein you're the boss two you're responsible for monitoring the people around you john the suggests there's something suspicious about
00:02:15the proximity of rosenstein's office to the office that was occupied until late last year by bruce or the department of justice official connected to the steel dust yet quote bruce or four doors down from mr rosenstein is meeting with the guy who wrote the dossier meeting with christopher
00:02:34steele jordan protested on the house floor in october bruce or four doors down from mr rosenstein is also meeting with glenn simpson the guy who founded fusion gps the people who paid for the dossier more rosenstein wasn't the deputy a g and didn't work in the building when
00:02:53these events took place but jordan implicates him by association anyway Three it's immoral to remain silent about the truth of an accusation last year in order to lift the cloud of the russia scandal president donald trump repeatedly pressured then fbi director james comey to declare that trump wasn't
00:03:16under investigation comey demure regarding such a statement as premature unwise and wrong so trump fired him jordan's supports trump's decision and holds comey at fault by saying nothing jordan told his house colleagues in april comey unjustly allowed the perception to exist that trump was under investigation rule number
00:03:40four any incomplete disclosure is malicious and corrupt in october two thousand sixteen doj asked a court to authorize russia related surveillance of trump campaign adviser carter page jordan calls this application dishonest saying it failed to disclose that part of it's evidence came from partisan opposition research Reporters have
00:04:06consistently reminded jordan that his claim isn't true because thie application mentioned the partisan connection in a footnote jordan says that's not good enough if you and i go to court he told his house colleagues we have got to tell the whole truth they didn't number five any delaine
00:04:24disclosure is deliberate concealment at a june nineteen hearing doj inspector general michael horowitz testified that an anti trump text message from stroh's arc which jordan's suspected of being suppressed for months hadn't being discovered until may Jordan called that an outrageous delay by rosenstein he sat on it for
00:04:46a month Horowitz then explained that the text had bean a needle in a haystack of one hundred thousand lines of text he said the g's office hadn't noticed it then flagged it to doj until june eight six days before it was released in an ied report on eleven
00:05:05days before the hearing that was still unacceptable said jordan because rosenstein had failed to release it right away and rule number six the penalty for these offenses should be prosecution or termination in an april eleventh interview with laura ingraham jordan excoriated rosenstein and attorney general jeff sessions for
00:05:27failing to answer congressional enquiries to his satisfaction If things don't change dramatically and i'm talking days not weeks or months if they don't change dramatically than impeachment and contempt and resignation should all be on the table jordan declared When ingram asked jordan to name his targets he replied
00:05:47jeff sessions and rod rosenstein they're the guys that are supposed to be in charge while with these rules in mind let's consider the evidence in the wrestling case In april jordan told the columba was dispatched that no one reported any type of abuse to him when he was
00:06:06in ohio state I had not heard about any type of abuse at all he said this week he repeated his categorical denial I never knew about any type of abuse Referring to his former ohio state colleagues jordan added i have talked to other coaches and they didn't know
00:06:24of any abuse several former os you wrestlers however say they have direct knowledge that jordan wass aware of strauss is misconduct one ex wrestler mike disa beto says he saw jordan expressed amazement when strauss went into the showers toe ogle and athlete a second dan yasha yet says
00:06:46he and others repeatedly told jordan about strauss using injury exams those opportunities to grope wrestlers a third sean daly says jordan participated in conversations about strauss is abuse a fourth mark Coleman also says jordan knew all four men called jordan a friend and a good guy but they
00:07:08corroborate one and other stories Daily confirms that in one case yes complains to jordan about strauss trying to pull down his shorts in response to a thumb injury yet daily and a saboteur recalled jordan saying in this conversation or in other exchanges that strauss had better not touch
00:07:28jordan in a political report published late on friday a former wrestler as that he saw jordan shouted boyars to get out of the sauna so this testimony from multiple eyewitness is that jordan's claim of ignorance is false but there's also documentary evidence that he may have concealed explicit
00:07:49knowledge for the past four months Disa beto says that in march he told jordan of his intention to expose strauss is abuse In that conversation to savita recalls jordan responded by saying something like i just want to be left out of it or please leave me out of
00:08:07it essentially says disa beto jordan asked me not to get him involved jordan admits that the sabot o talk to him around that time late march early april sometime in there According to fox news emails between the two men date back to march on were forwarded by jordan
00:08:26to his own lawyer So when jordan told the dispatch that he knew nothing about any abuse it seems likely that he had already heard from dis a bitter about it The dispatch hasn't reported exactly when in april jordan gave this quote but the quote was published on may
00:08:43three on april twenty four there's a clear record of disa bitto requesting help in an email to jordan he pleaded you have the platform to cut through the double talk application and finger pointing Still jordan appears to have done nothing in every way jordan's conduct violates the standards
00:09:06he applies to comey muller rosenstein and sessions he ducked responsibility for offenses that occurred when he waas in effect the deputy director of the o s you resting program he claims to have known nothing about strauss is locker room behavior even though strauss's locker was next to his
00:09:26on dh for months despite explicit reports from strauss is victims jordan has kept silent asking them not to involve him in the story a merciful judge might rationalize jordan's behavior such a judge might speculate that jordan didn't understand the seriousness of what strauss was doing that jordan didn't
00:09:47think of it as abuse that he forgot the details all that is reasons for asking to be left out of the story are understandable but jordan has never shown that kind of mercy He insists that such a person should be prosecuted charged or forced from office On That
00:10:05is the justice he must now face

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