Season 1, Episode 3: Mike Grande, Creator of Rock Out Loud Live

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Hi, everyone.
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Welcome back to another episode of The Piano Pod.
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I'm Yukimi Somb.
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I'm Clara Jung.
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And I am Eric Hunter.
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The guest of the third episode is Mike Grande, who is a creator of Rock Out Loud Live, which
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is a software, a virtual music lesson platform, meaning it's like Zoom, but it's way better.
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It's not like Zoom.
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We just spent the past five minutes trying to figure out original sound.
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My mic is gloomy.
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Eric is telling me I sound worse with the setup on.
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So it's not like Zoom.
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So I'm sorry.
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A Zoom replacement.
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A Zoom killer.
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Let's call it a Zoom killer.
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A music Zoom.
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Exactly.
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I'm just trying to communicate through an audience because they have no idea.
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So trying to use that Zoom as an example, but way better in terms of audio.
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And it's actually specifically made for music lessons, online music lessons, right?
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Yeah, that's exactly right.
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Wonderful.
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So anyway, thank you so much, Mike, for joining us today.
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How are you doing?
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I'm doing great.
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Thanks for having me, especially on a Saturday.
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I know it's been tough to get me Monday through Friday to take this time, especially on a
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Saturday morning when people have tons of things to do on that personal world.
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I really appreciate you guys making time.
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So thank you.
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No, it's great.
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Wonderful.
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Thank you.
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Yes.
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So we've come to know Rock Out Loud Live from other piano teachers such as Andrew Incrobat
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of the Music Color Method and Carly Walton of Teach Music Online.
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And we've read rave reviews of your software in terms of better audio and being able to
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do duets at the same time, like simultaneously with your student and sheet music integration
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so forth.
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So could you tell us all about Rock Out Loud Live?
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You betcha.
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So it's funny because people have said to me it came out because of 2020's pandemic,
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which really it wasn't.
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It was out.
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I started building this three years ago.
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I was on a podcast, Danny Thompson's got Music Lesson Business Academy, a podcast that he
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hosts in California.
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I was on in 2018 and I said, guys, five year plan is everything's virtual.
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It's like, ah, no, it's never going to be virtual.
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I said, I'm building this application.
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It's going to be virtual.
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Danny has since closed down his school to do only virtual now.
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So this is three years in the making.
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Literally on Monday, this past Monday, my patent, which was three years and just building
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this patent and working with lawyers in the patent office was finally completed.
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I got the allowance on Monday, which is fantastic news.
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And I've also found out there are a lot of competitors that are using this technology
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that is now patented by Rock Out Loud Live.
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So we'll see how we'll handle that.
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And then, yes, so that has been three years in the making, July 4th this year.
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After about seven or eight weeks of beta testing, we went live.
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And I think in the first week we had 400 music schools.
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Today we're almost, I think we're a little bit over 100 days out live.
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We have 93 countries using this.
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I think I just posted it today on my Facebook live group.
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23,000 users are using this now.
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We're hosting about 15 to 20,000 lessons every single week.
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And yeah, we have a couple of thousand schools all over the world subscribe with including
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students and teachers.
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Students aren't even counted.
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We're actually only counting the teachers because we have no personal information that
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we require from the students whatsoever.
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So if one teacher on average teaches 20 kids, think about that.
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It's 20 lessons a week per teacher.
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If we have thousands of them, if you just do the math, that's an amazing number in such
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a short period of time.
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I think that's the market saying, hey, we needed something like this.
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Totally.
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Wow.
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Congratulations on your success.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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So Rock Out Loud itself is a music school or a music school?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So I opened up, so I've had the Staten Island School of Rock, which is not associated with
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the School Rock franchise.
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I've had that now for 16 or 17 years.
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And if you ever do the numbers of the School Rock franchise, the only borough in New York
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that can't get into a Staten Island is they just can't compete with me.
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We have hundreds of students.
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Everybody recognizes us.
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We've been there forever and they've wanted to work with me and kind of combine schools,
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which I'm not going to do.
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But they did say if you go to Jersey, which is where my second school has opened up and
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you do anything School Rock related there, we'll sue your butt off.
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So Rock Out Loud was born a few years ago, which is about two or three years ago.
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The name came up and I found the place.
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It took me about, it's funny.
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It took me three years to actually open and only four or five months to build out the
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space.
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So I said, well, what was the two and a half extra years?
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What was that for?
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That's how long it took my landlord to just give me a vanilla box, which the building
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was built.
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There was another tenant.
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It took them two and a half years to give me a vanilla box.
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And when they handed me the keys, I said, do you realize Christopher Columbus founded
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America sooner than it took for you to give me a vanilla box?
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How do you respond to that?
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Because that's such a great question.
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And they had no answer for that.
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So four months later, we opened up in November, November 2nd.
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It was great grand opening.
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And this build out cost me almost $700,000.
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The place looks amazing.
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If you ever want to see the virtual tour, rockoutloud.com will give you a virtual tour.
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It's about 3,600 square feet.
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But four months later, we closed.
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We closed and we just transitioned naturally over Rock Out Loud Live, which was still in
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beta.
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All my teachers knew it.
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It was a great transition.
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It was amazing.
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And then that's how this whole thing really snowballed.
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So in July 4th, we just released it live.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Hey, I have a question if I could just jump in.
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So I'm really curious.
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How did you see this whole online transition coming?
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Like, how did you have the foresight to start planning?
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That's an amazing question.
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I'm a big reader.
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I'm a big reader.
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And Thinking Grow Rich has always been a book that I've read.
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I love Napoleon Hill.
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Look at that.
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That's awesome.
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All right.
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And they talk about specialized knowledge.
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In one of the chapters, Napoleon Hill.
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And I thought about it.
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Just think if you wanted to learn how to speak Italian, you go out to Italy and you learn
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Italian.
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You want to speak Spanish, you go to Spain, you speak Spanish.
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But what if you wanted to learn flamenco guitar?
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Why do you have to rely on the local music school that maybe just has a blues teacher
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who could just teach blues?
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And now you have to conform and say, you know, I really wanted to learn flamenco.
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But you know, I guess I just got to deal with blues guitar because there's nobody that you
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can really find that does flamenco.
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But if you can get somebody virtually in a different part of the world to teach you flamenco,
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that's how I thought of the specialized knowledge.
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You want to learn.
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It's, you know, it's like people who go off to a college program overseas to learn the
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culture of whether it's Japan or Chile or no matter where it is, that's the best way
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to do it.
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And how else are you going to do that as a kid?
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And it started when I was I was 10 years old.
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I wanted to learn guitar.
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My dad takes me to this guitar teacher, shows me an Alfred book and I'm like, I want to
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learn Led Zeppelin.
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The guy's like, sorry, Ruben Ruben first.
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I'm like, oh, there goes that idea.
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So three years later, I want to learn guitar again.
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Mom and dad, they bring me to a guitar teacher and he plays in church.
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He's like, we can do kumbaya, my 11 o'clock mass, if you can learn an E major chord.
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So that's the end of that guitar lesson.
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So at 15 years old, I found this guitar teacher.
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He looked like, I don't know if you know who Randy Rhoades is.
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He had hair down to his waist and he had 30 guitars in his basement, a full recording
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studio.
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He taught me Dazed and Confused by Led Zeppelin, my first song.
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And I was bit by a bug for 12 to 14 hours a day.
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For the rest of my life, I would play guitar for the rest of my life.
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It just took finding that one special teacher, that one special coach.
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So if that special coach doesn't live in your local music school area, what do you do?
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You just give up or you conform.
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You don't play flamenco, you play blues.
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It's not the way.
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So I thought virtual would be a great platform to do that with the tools to provide that
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ultimate virtual music lesson experience.
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Wow.
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That's a great story.
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Yeah, totally.
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It's beautiful.
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So you know what, Eric, why don't you ask some questions about...
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So Mike, I think, could you talk to us a little bit about what's different about Rocket Lad
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Live and how it's superior to Zoom and other options?
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Oh my gosh, I love answering this.
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If this was about a three day conversation, I could probably answer for four.
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But I'll do this as quickly as I can.
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So first is, it's super important to understand that Zoom was not built for music coaches,
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music teachers, music educators, music institutions.
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It's simple.
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They're built for board meetings and conference rooms.
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So besides being the most successful failure in music, which I am, I'm also a chief technology
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officer and a certified hacker for a company on Park Avenue in New York City, the Financial
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firm.
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So I know technology.
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I also know how Zoom works because whenever we do a boardroom meeting with Zoom, it's basically
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a presentation in PowerPoint.
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And then we all call in on a Polycom because the audio is just so awful.
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So when you have these Zoom conversations, you pull up a PowerPoint presentation, it's
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all for that video.
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You really don't care if the audio cuts out because you might be looking at some slides.
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I reverse that.
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So the big difference here is I went from concentrating on video to concentrating on
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audio.
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And audio takes precedence where video degrades if you have a poor internet connection.
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So to me, that was the ultimate experience is making sure audio comes through.
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And the next thing I wanted to really focus on was what the real problem is with virtual
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music lessons.
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It's not the student, it's not the teacher, it's not the virtual music lessons, it's not
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being in front of them.
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It's the mom and dad.
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I think parents are the worst thing that ever happened to music lessons.
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And I could just picture you guys getting these hate mail and messages.
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Look at that.
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Everybody's like, I'm going to tell you why parents are the killer of virtual music lessons.
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Mom and dad, this is the reason.
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After we have the most incredible music lesson with your son or daughter, the first thing
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we say is we're going to say, Sally, we're going to email mom and dad that lesson and
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mom is going to print it out.
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You're going to practice the whole weekend.
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Boy, it's going to be amazing.
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Next week, we're just going to take part two of this lesson.
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So what happens is, well, mom and dad's printer is broken.
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We got caught in spam.
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They didn't check their email.
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Oh, I was so busy.
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I'm so sorry to get a chance to give them that lesson.
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And then the next week would roll around and little Timmy or Sally doesn't practice.
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And then you get that dreaded phone call.
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Well, you know, a child just doesn't practice anymore.
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He's just not interested.
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He's not showing any interest.
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And we're going to wait until we go back in person.
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I said, maybe that's not a problem.
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Maybe the problem is the parent not giving your child the lesson.
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That to me is the problem.
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So we remove mom and dad.
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Maybe we can make these virtual music lessons really, really happen.
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So it's exactly what I did.
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I created, which was patented on Monday, the ability to upload a PDF in real time in front
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of your student in seconds and have them download it on any one of their devices.
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So if they have a mobile phone and they use the rock out loud app, it basically download
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the music, which I'll pull up now.
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It is awesome.
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So let me pull up what it looks like and I'll hopefully be able to see this visually.
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So this is the application.
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So if I pulled up for release and somebody wanted to learn for release on my application,
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right there is for release on the student's mobile phone.
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You have three options.
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Those icons are a video icon.
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So if you wanted to see your teacher, you click that then the cord icon.
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If you want to select the cords, you can see that and all the cords will appear that this
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teacher provides.
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And then there's the sheet music and a little button right over there.
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You download that and that downloads your music lesson.
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So we wanted to remove the parents from the equation entirely.
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And by doing that and giving them the tool, that student downloads it and that goes right
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to their computer, their MacBook, their Chromebook, their PC, their Android, their iPad, their
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iPhone, every single device.
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So we actually have testimonials of four or five year old kids on their iPad because that's
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where it's going these days.
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Everybody's got their iPads, practicing guitar.
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This little kid Dean, it was amazing.
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So kids are better with technology anyway.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I hate to say this, but it's true.
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We're so fast on catching up.
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Back support for their parents.
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That's exactly right.
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So by doing that, we've really removed such a big pain point and we noticed that we had
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such a smooth transition to virtual lessons because kids, like they were coming to your
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studios would walk out with a lesson except for this time it was just digital.
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That was the next thing.
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We also offer features like song searches.
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We can search, as piano teachers especially, can search 1.8 million songs, Ferro Elise
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being one of them, pulls up immediately into the portal and shows up right there in real
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time with your student.
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We also have the ability to make this as simple for your student as possible.
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I knew that going from Zoom and Skype and WebEx and FaceTime to over to Rock Out Loud,
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we had to make it simple because nobody wants to go out and register for their new program,
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the new application.
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Parents have to get involved.
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They have to submit a form.
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Then they have to activate it.
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Then they have to log in for their child.
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It's like, oh my gosh, you can't do it again because this was tough.
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Music teachers were really thrown right into the fire on March 16th.
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We all had to figure it out.
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I knew it had to be simple.
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We don't ask for any personal information.
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You all join my call.
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If you recall, Eric, you just typed in your name, you joined the room.
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That was it.
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It was super easy.
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You didn't have to go out and register and fill out an activation code or any of that
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stuff.
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These are really important things as part of keeping this experience very free flowing,
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doing the parents and having the students to have that ability to get that ultimate
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virtual music lesson.
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I think we fulfilled that.
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Right.
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So Mike, can I ask a question?
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I've been trying it out for a couple of weeks.
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One thing I noticed, maybe I'm not doing it right.
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When you share music, you can only share PDF.
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Oftentimes I send my students, where they have their music books in their score, they
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would take a picture and send to me.
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So normally on Zoom, I would just share that.
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But right now when I share, it seems like I lose my face.
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All of a sudden they would tell me that you turn into the music.
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Or if I share the PDF, I have to convert into PDF.
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Is that how it works?
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So I'm so glad you brought that up, Clara.
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The reason why I'm glad you brought that up is because I listen.
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People have asked the same exact question.
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Unlike Zoom, after four months you get an email that says, hey, you still having a problem
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with this issue that you had?
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If not, let us know.
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We're going to close the ticket.
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I took that and I went back to my developers and I said, let's create a whiteboard.
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Let's import PDFs or images or JPEGs or whatever it is the teacher wants into the lesson without
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sharing a screen.
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Then let's be able to annotate that right there in the lesson without sharing a screen.
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And then what if we remove the parents again?
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Because unlike Zoom, when you share a screen and then you pull up an image and then you
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annotate, then you have to connect that image with the picture in the image and create a
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file and then you have to email it.
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We've removed that entire process.
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So let's say your student sends you something.
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You can pull it up in your whiteboard, which is in your screen and your picture of you
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and your student appear in the bottom right.
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Pull up that, annotate it, and then your student has a big download button that can download
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it right there into their experience so they don't have to worry about an email anymore.
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So they can have all of that.
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That's the annotation feature.
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That feature is coming out hopefully next week and it's all for the paid subscribers.
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Okay, got it.
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I have not tried that yet.
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Great question.
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Yeah, thank you so much for answering.
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Yeah, Mike, I wanted to ask you, can you talk a little bit about duets?
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Because that is really the promised land when it comes to virtual lessons, right?
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Yes, I'm very glad we're going to talk about that.
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Duet technology, enhanced audio recognition technology, it's based around peer to peer
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connection.
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It's also, it's limited in terms of what you can do.
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You cannot do more than two people.
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It's got to be person to person.
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There is no such thing as no latency, zero latency.
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I just want to make sure everybody's on the same page here.
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You can't get rid of latency unless you're right in front of that person.
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So unless you want to defy physics, there's no such thing as no zero latency.
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However, we will be able to offer the least amount of latency possible.
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And I'll explain to you how it works.
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Peer to peer networking is my computer attaches to your computer, Eric, for example, and we
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connect like this.
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There's no media server.
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So what that does is it creates the least amount of lag or the least amount of hops
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that you can go from point A to point B. So if you have something like Zoom or Skype,
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they all use media service, which means you connect your computer to a media server in
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the cloud.
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And then Eric, you'll connect your computer to a media server in the cloud, and then you'll
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redistribute that signal.
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So just there, you're increasing more latency because you have more path that you have,
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you know, you have to basically go from hop one to hop two to hop three.
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So just, yeah, so just exactly just by removing one of those out of the equation, you've just
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removed, let's call it 20% latency.
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I don't know that exact number, but you're removing a significant amount of latency.
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So just by the fear, the mere fact of creating peer to peer networking, you're going to reduce
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that latency significantly.
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The next thing that we've done is we removed any ability to have, there's no compression,
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there's no EQ, there's nothing.
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It's a raw signal that goes from point A to point B, giving you that HD audio.
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So depending on your equipment, if you have a USB mic and a good set of headphones, you're
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going to get an amazing experience.
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And what we also offered with this particular feature is the ability to measure all of your
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statistics network wise.
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So when you connect on a call, you'll be able to determine the exact amount of latency you're
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going to expect as a teacher.
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And that's called E2E RTT.
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So if you hover over your students image, and you go to the top left corner, there is
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a Wi Fi symbol, and that icon gives you all the statistics of your students network.
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And that's incredibly important because whenever you connect, you don't know if it's your computer,
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your Wi Fi, your students computer, your students Wi Fi, you don't know if someone's on Netflix,
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but all of these statistics, and they're on our user guide, are there to help you try
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to figure out where you sit on your experience.
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If you have poor network connectivity, you'll know that immediately.
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And you might say, hey, Tim, could you ask your brother to stop playing Xbox?
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Or is somebody watching Netflix?
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Because those are the things that will really help you.
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But back to the duets, the E2E RTT is a very, very important statistic for your network.
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E2E RTT means end to end round trip time.
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That means those milliseconds are the amount of milliseconds it's taking from your computer
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to their computer, from their computer back to your computer.
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So if you can use those to judge how badly or how good your latency is going to be, that's
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going to determine your experience.
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So Microsoft deems 20 to 40 milliseconds for round trip time being optimal for people playing
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video games.
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So if you're playing Xbox, those milliseconds when you shoot somebody in card, those are
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the milliseconds that Microsoft's determined to be a great experience, optimal, 20 to 40.
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I am in New Jersey.
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And I can tell you I've had between 11 and 19 milliseconds for people in the New Jersey
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area who are up to about 50, 60 miles away.
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And that latency was so minute that, yeah, I heard it, but it was not bad.
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It was not something I couldn't deal with.
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But it made such an amazing experience.
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And the last thing I'll end with is when the teacher starts performing and the student
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plays along, there is zero latency.
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And it will be in HD quality.
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So it's all about giving that ultimate lesson to your music student.
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This is what it's about.
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So your teacher starts, the student plays along.
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That student doesn't know if you're in that room or not in that room.
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So that's an amazing accomplishment, I think.
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And you get to hear the ability of going back and forth without squashing, without that
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underwater gobble sound, which drives me mad.
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Oh, me too.
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Yeah, we all have experience with that.
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Yeah, that's all gone.
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That's all gone.
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Amazing.
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Now, so when you try to use Rock Out Live, do we all have to have the app to do it or
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can we use like a Google Chrome or something?
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That's a great question.
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I'm so glad you brought that up because not 99% of the time, 100% of the time that there
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is something that doesn't work in our application.
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It's simply because you're not using Google Chrome as a web browser on a PC, on a Mac,
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on a laptop, on a Chromebook.
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Or you're not using the app that's made for the mobile applications, which are all free,
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by the way.
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So on the Google Play Store and in the Apple Store, it's a free app.
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That's the Rock Out Loud app.
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And that Rock Out Loud app for the phone allows you to switch between icons, video icon, chord
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icon, sheet music icon.
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And we've made it that way because when you're actually taking a lesson on a mobile device,
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we've made it so you can read the actual sheet music without disabling the camera and the
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teacher can focus on the technique while the student is reading the piece of music.
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There's no need for the student to see the teacher at that point.
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You want the focus on that music and that app allows you to do that.
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So 100% of the time, if there are audio issues, there are lag issues, it's 100% of the time
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not using Google Chrome and they're not using the app.
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And since we're here, we're talking about concerts.
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I've been doing a lot of concerts and we normally do it on Zoom.
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So we're trying it out.
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The next one, we want to try it on Rock Out Loud.
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So right now I'm trying to figure out a few things.
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Is there a way we can spotlight the main performer like what Zoom does?
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And also sometimes they do these lecture recitals, right?
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So I want to see the student as well as what they're showing.
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Is there a thing?
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So right now for recitals, we found that the best experience with recitals is muting everybody.
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And it's important to know that when you have it, because we can hold up to 35 people in
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a class.
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If you don't have the ability to mute everybody, because we have full duplex, unlike Zoom,
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which is sort of like half duplex, which is like a walkie talkie, you press a button,
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you speak, you release the button, you listen.
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But with us, we're full duplex, so we hear all the noise.
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So you might have headphones on and a great mic, which is excellent, but you might have
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a loud air conditioner or a ceiling fan on.
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That is getting picked up and that's going to go through all 35 people on the phone call,
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the video call.
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So you mute everybody except for that person.
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So yes, that person just generally, because they're speaking, will be presented as the
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presenter.
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But the students have the ability to toggle into tile view and put everybody into tile.
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So you might want to push them into that, but the student on the other side can just
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simply hit toggle view to see everybody in the group.
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The teacher, however, can make themselves the presenter only.
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They can't make somebody else a presenter unless they wanted to.
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I see.
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Ultimately, it's in the hands of that.
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But there's another feature that we've created that somebody, Ian Veloso of Simply Music
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pointed out.
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To be honest with you, I created this feature because a lot of those folks with the acoustic
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pianos and you all know who you are as I look at you guys, sometimes it's just so loud.
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There are in the Rock Out Loud Live application, there are little volume controls on every
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single person's video.
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So I could change and create mixes of everybody on my call individually.
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So if your piano is too loud, I can lower you.
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And if your vocals need to be brought up, I can maybe make the other people lower just
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so I can get that real perfect mix.
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But when you're doing groups, you would mute everybody.
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And based on privacy rules, they have to unmute themselves.
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00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,640
But then you'd get the ability to really hear the sound of Rock Out Loud Live compared to
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Zoom because we have this full spectrum of audio where Zoom, even if you enable original
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sound, which they say works, it still compresses the upper and the lower registers.
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So if someone's playing piano and you have the lower end and you have the higher end,
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you're not going to get those frequencies, especially to work so well.
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So I would encourage you to mute everybody on the call and just hear what that sounds
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like because the other people on the phone call don't have to worry about headphones.
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They don't have to worry about ceiling fans and background noise.
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You've muted them all.
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You're only hearing the performer and it's an amazing experience.
506
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,160
That was a great question, Clare.
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Yeah, that's great.
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Yeah, we're going to try it out.
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So hopefully.
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But definitely we cannot share the music yet.
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But I'm looking forward for that to be added in the future.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Great.
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So I was wondering, you know, as piano teachers, oftentimes I like to have, can you see it
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over here?
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It's not in the picture, but I have those little stands here so I can do a camera over
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my hands when I'm demonstrating.
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00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,280
How do we do a multi-camera setup like that on Rock Out Loud?
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00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,160
Well, we could do it a couple of ways.
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We have the ability to, right next to the lead button is a video camera button.
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You can toggle your cameras there.
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People have used OBS as well.
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They connect OBS, which is an amazing experience with OBS.
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So OBS is a little difficult.
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There's a tough learning curve.
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But once you get past that, man, it's a great way to use Rock Out Loud Live.
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I can tell you that in the works, and it could be three to six months from now, but it is
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going to be in the works.
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I signed the sign off for the project a few weeks ago, and that's the ability to add multiple
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cameras at the same time inside the Rock Out Loud Live experience.
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Just like you have the whiteboard is inside, we wanted to keep everything inside so you'd
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be able to use multiple cameras.
533
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,760
You'll have some scenes.
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You'll be able to put splashes sort of like Manicam does without using all of the resources.
535
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:54,760
Lots of things like Manicam, they really overextended the need of all of the things they throw
536
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in everything, emojis, characters.
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You don't need that as music teachers.
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You basically need a way to put in more screen options, choice options for your fingers,
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left hand, right hand, overhead, and your head and your face.
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So that's hopefully coming.
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So that's the one thing about Rock Out Loud Live is going to be growing.
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00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,160
What you saw July 4th looks totally different is what it looks now.
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And in two weeks, it'll look different again with the whiteboard.
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00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,880
And then it's going to look different again in six months because we keep adding features
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to make that music lesson better and better and better.
546
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:33,480
It's fantastic that you're really making this platform for music lessons exclusively.
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Yeah.
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Not like you're building this for this kind of meetings or that, but it's really exclusively
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for music teachers and students.
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00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,440
So it's wonderful.
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You want to hear something funny?
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00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,880
I have a guitar teacher who's also a doctor.
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He's an MD.
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He's using Rock Out Loud Live for his patients.
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00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,080
And I said, what in the world?
556
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,800
Are you diagnosing them with high blood pressure and then pulling out your acoustic guitar?
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00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,840
So he said to me, what he's doing is he has a call with them and then he uploads as a
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PDF their prescription and they download it right to their phone, go right to their pharmacy.
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And that's all they do.
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So they don't have to worry.
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00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,760
It's amazing because some pharmacies don't accept anything other than the physical.
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And that's what they do.
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They go with their phone.
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And then there was a Bible study group I heard are now using this for Bible study.
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00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,280
And I said, what in the world are you using it for Bible study for?
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Because Zoom and Skype and WebEx is so difficult with the registration for older folks.
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00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,560
The Bible study people are generally be in their late 60s, early 70s to 90s and they
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don't know technology.
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00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,680
So all they do is they upload the hymns or the scripts or the scripture right there in
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the lesson, in the lesson, in the video, and they download it and they're done.
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00:28:47,780 --> 00:28:51,720
So they don't have to worry about checking their email and enabling original sound because
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they can hear the person preaching.
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It's amazing what people they're using it for.
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00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,920
But yeah, it's it's it's expanding beyond music lessons.
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But my focus is on music lessons.
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Wonderful.
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Great.
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That is really great.
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Yeah.
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00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,640
And that brings me to my actually last question that there is currently no break rooms.
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Correct.
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I have and there won't be.
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That's a great.
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There will be.
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00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,640
Okay.
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They're not going to be.
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That's the reason why we're not going to do it.
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I see.
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Let me.
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So let me explain quickly how it's so important for me to preserve preserve the audio bandwidth
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when you connect peer to peer.
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That's the ultimate virtual music lesson experience because there's no media service.
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The moment you add things like breakout rooms, you add media servers.
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And to me, that's unwanted usage of bandwidth, which that basically means the bandwidth got
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to come from something.
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Well, we've already capped out the video bandwidth.
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But if we're going to start now working with the audio bandwidth and starting sucking some
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of that bandwidth out for audio recordings, which we're not doing any recordings or breakout
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rooms, which we're not offering breakout rooms, it's going to be less of an experience and
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more like a zoom experience, which we don't want to do.
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We want to make sure that we preserve that audio stream.
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And we've tried three or four different applications who said that they don't they don't affect
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the audio stream.
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But all of our tests found that in fact it does affect the audio stream.
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So until there's something that can make it where it doesn't, which I don't think it will,
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we're not going to be doing breakout rooms and we're not going to be doing video recordings.
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Got it.
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All right.
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So you're not sacrificing anything just for the music.
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Exactly.
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I love it.
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Yeah, I really appreciate that.
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Students are very excited with the duets.
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So yeah.
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Yes.
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Mike, if you have a student that seems to have a poor connection, what are some things
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we can do to deal with that during the lesson?
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I love these questions.
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So the best part is, is you're able to see these statistics before the lesson starts.
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So this way you can at least navigate to a couple of things.
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The bit rate tells you the bandwidth.
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So when you see the statistic of a bit rate less than 2000, that basically means that
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there's something going on with the network.
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00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,560
But it could be a lot of things.
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Like I said earlier, it could be that their brother is taking a zoom call for their English
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class or for their social studies class, and that could consume bandwidth.
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Or they might have a problem with their Wi-Fi.
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They might want to get closer to their access point.
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Or if they're playing piano and they can't, you might want to see if someone's streaming
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Netflix.
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There's a lot of these things.
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But most of all, sometimes people don't even realize that if they have their email application
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00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:26,160
open, Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook, whatever it is, email literally checks every 15 to 30 seconds
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for another email.
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00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,400
So naturally, that's going to require bandwidth up and down, polling to see if a new email
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comes in.
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And if someone sends you an email attachment, well, then that's going to take some more
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bandwidth too.
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And that could affect your lesson.
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Also packet loss.
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00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,120
We have the ability to check packet loss, which indicates more of a hardware issue,
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like if your router is dropping the packets.
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So you can ask them to reset their router.
644
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,480
So all these things really come into play.
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00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,640
So it's important to know that those are some of the things which we have on our user guide
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in terms of troubleshooting.
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00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,580
So we have a user guide, which is super intuitive.
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00:32:00,580 --> 00:32:05,720
You type in the problem like Wi-Fi and everything related to Wi-Fi issues appears right there.
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00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,380
You can walk out and do it with your student, go over everything.
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00:32:09,380 --> 00:32:14,280
But one thing that I can tell you that there is not another application that has in the
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00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,960
world to date is live telephone support for your paid subscribers.
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00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,760
So let me give you an example.
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Eric, you're on a call with a student, you have no problem.
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00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,000
You can call our live technical support, which happens to be my music coaches who've been
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using this application since inception.
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00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,320
They'll pick up the phone, they'll walk you and or your student through it.
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00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,040
They'll even connect to your room just to make sure that your room ID and everything
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00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,240
else is working perfectly and make sure that that lesson gets fixed.
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00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,120
Because the last thing we want is any teacher saying, can we make this lesson up or I'll
660
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,640
refund your money?
661
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,960
I think that that's the worst thing in the world.
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00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,600
So they have live tech support, not just a trouble ticket.
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00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,600
This is for paid subscribers.
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I mean, our packages start at $9.95 a month, no cancellation fees, cancel anytime.
665
00:33:02,660 --> 00:33:07,560
And it's like 30 cents a day or something like that, 50 cents a day just for the support.
666
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,640
If that saves you one student or if that brings back a student that canceled because they
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00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,360
had a poor zoom experience, then that subscription was paid for for the entire year when they
668
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,800
come back for that one month.
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00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,760
So just to put them in perspective, perspective that we want to make sure that you have all
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the tools and resources.
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00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,120
So if you do have network problems, if you need technical support, if your students have
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00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,240
a problem and you're a paid subscriber, give us a call one o'clock to eight o'clock Eastern
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Standard Time and Saturdays nine to three.
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00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,600
And I got some emails from people in Australia and New Zealand.
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00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,800
They said, what about us?
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Those times don't work.
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The first thing I did was I went out, I found and hired and trained tech support and that
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00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,440
rolls out on Monday.
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00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,800
Within two weeks, I've completely trained, set up Australian phone numbers and a chat
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00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,520
service for everybody in Australia and New Zealand just to make sure that their lessons
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00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,520
go smooth.
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00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,360
I don't think you'll get that from any other platform to be honest with you.
683
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,360
Yeah.
684
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,400
I don't think so either.
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00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,280
Can you talk a little bit about your different subscription models and what are the differences
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between them?
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00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,280
You bet.
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00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:17,900
So the zero free subscription was basically for actually to say, listen, give us a try
689
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:18,900
and we're better than Zoom.
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00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:22,640
We're not going to give you any restrictions like cutting you off after 40 minutes if you
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have a group, because sometimes when you have a lesson and a child is having a problem,
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00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:31,160
you don't want to just say, sorry, Zoom says it's 40 minutes and your time is done.
693
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,320
But to me, I wanted to remove that.
694
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,320
The free version gives you the PDF upload so you can still share music and your student
695
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,280
can still download music.
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00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:46,200
And there's a lot of downsides to the free version in that you don't have a static URL,
697
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:51,040
which basically means if it's the Kimi Song Studio, that's your URL you send out to your
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00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,680
students, it never changes.
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00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,900
It lasts a lifetime of your membership.
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00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:59,560
But every time on the free subscription that you want to set up a virtual music lesson,
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00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,120
you got to go in, you got to log in and create a lesson.
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00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,480
It gives you an ID.
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00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,160
That ID is only used once, can't be used again.
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You mail it to your student.
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00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,840
Once that lesson is over, it's over.
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00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,720
And you got to regenerate it every single time.
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00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:14,640
This is a great opportunity to check the product.
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The audio is going to be the same.
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You're not going to have the ear technology, but you get to see what it sounds and hear
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what it sounds like.
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00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:24,600
You get to experience the PDF upload to see how much value it provides.
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00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,440
But then on the paid subscription, and the paid subscription is if you teach one instrument.
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00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,440
If you just teach piano, you just get a piano subscription.
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00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,720
You get the access to 1.8 million songs on a song search.
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00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:40,200
You get all of these song called these, I should say these piano called resources.
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00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,120
You click on a call that shows up right there in your students video within seconds.
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00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,360
So if you want to show them what an A major looks like, the A major called you click on
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00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,640
as a teacher, and it appears in real time for your student, which is an amazing feature.
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You get a custom URL, like I said, so if it says if it's Eric Hunter piano class, that
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could be your custom URL.
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You send it out once, you never have to send it again.
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We also offer waiting rooms.
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So if your student comes with that URL a little bit early, they'll sit in a waiting room.
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So you don't have to worry about them bodging into a lesson.
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We have annotations and the annotations are enough to knock your socks off.
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We have real annotations, not annotations in Zoom where you share a screen and you get
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a couple of magic markers and some screen shapes.
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You're not going to have a rectangle on a circle.
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We have that too.
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But we have the bass clef, treble clef, the staves come up, you can actually select on
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a note and notate that right there.
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You can teach the circle of fifths right there.
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You can upload a piano keyboard and select the pen tool and do scales like an A major
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scale by selecting A, B, C sharp, D, E, F sharp, G sharp.
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And the best part is you can download it and your student can download it right onto their
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computer.
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And in Zoom, you have to look at all the steps and Zoom, if you want to screen share and
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annotate, your screen share is one.
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Two, you pull up a PDF.
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Three, you mark it up, you annotate it.
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Four, you take an image because you can't save it if you're not saving as an image.
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And five, you email it to a parent and the parent never gets it to the child.
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This you download the button inside the whiteboard.
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It literally downloads the entire annotations right there in front of your student and the
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teacher gets to do it too and save it as well.
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And that's where back to what you were saying, Clara, you'll be able to upload images, JPEGs,
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anything your student sends you, PDFs, annotate, do it as much as you like.
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And all that is downloaded right there.
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So that's part of the paid subscription as well.
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As we spoke about the ear technology enhanced audio recognition, which is a little checkbox
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and that checkbox, once it hits, it literally changes all the codecs in the background.
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You start the lesson, you get a big banner that says, hey, you got to have headphones
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on both sides.
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It's one on one, it's a duet and you must be using your web browser, not mobile device.
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And you'll get the sound of a lifetime.
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I would encourage you guys to do a one on one with me just to hear what it sounds like.
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It's just amazing.
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And then I think most of all, which I think really with the paid subscription really hits
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home is that technical support because we've had this one gentleman on one of the Facebook
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forums said, you know, I had to cancel lesson because the student had poor internet connection,
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we couldn't figure it out.
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And now I got to give him back the money.
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And that's what really made me just reflect and say, how can we fix this pain point?
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And that's what I did.
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So that's the single license.
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But now if you have a multiple, if you have a music school and you have teachers that
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teach multiple instruments.
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So let's say Eric, you teach piano, drums, guitar and ukulele.
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Well that gives you the ability to do search song searches for every guitar song ever written,
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bass, every bass song ever written.
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You can pull up chords for ukulele, chords for the guitar.
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You could pull up drum percussion, everything piano as well.
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So you have every musical teaching room instrument and the ability to switch between rooms.
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You have that under one multi lesson license.
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So that means that if you teach more than one instrument, you're going to want that
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for 13.95 and that will also include all of those other features, but the ability to pull
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up now 15 terabytes of music.
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And that's all with the ability for the student to download.
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That's pretty significant number.
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Wonderful. Alright, so that concludes our interview, I guess.
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But lastly, would you like to promote something?
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Yes, that's I absolutely do.
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I killed zoom.com.
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Now you gave me, you had said to me, I didn't know about it.
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So yes, I killed zoom.com is huge.
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And this is what happened.
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So I'm like, this is so much better than zoom, but what can I do to really grab somebody's
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attention now?
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Rock out that live is cool.
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So this is the difference as teachers you're ready, you got a young student 10 years old.
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And I don't know Eric, you give me card, do you have students that are 10 11 years old?
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And you know, let me ask you then you answer this question for me because now I have a
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question for you.
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Is it cool to say, are you ready to rock out loud or let's get on a zoom call.
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Just get a piano lesson.
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You tell me what are you ready to rock out loud or you ready to zoom?
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Eric.
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Yeah, because when you think about it, children now are associating zoom with English.
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My son is taking zoom lessons in school and he's doing gym classes.
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I mean, it's like, let's connect on zoom and let's do jumping jacks.
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There's nothing exciting about that.
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But if you're like, let's go and rock out loud.
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Let's do an awesome kick butt piano lesson to me.
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That's the juice, right?
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So if you go to I killed zoom.com, you'll not only see and hear the difference between
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me and zoom, but you'll hear me playing acoustic guitar and you'll get that audio quality difference.
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And I would encourage you guys just to check out that video because it's me playing a little
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Led Zeppelin and you'll hear over the hills and far away in both zoom version and my version.
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And then you get to see the graphic EQ.
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That graphic EQ shows you if it wasn't clear enough audibly, it shows you how the so many
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deficiencies in the levels where they take out the top end and the bottom end.
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So you can see that as well.
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And I also offer you'll see in the bottom right, I'll offer you a demo book a demo.
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You guys book the demo.
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I do demos.
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I do 22 demos a day since the seventh of sixth of July.
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So since July six, because July fourth was a Saturday, I've been doing demos Monday through
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Friday from 8am to 8.30pm.
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This week covers the New Zealand and Australian folks.
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But I go through these demos for everybody.
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22 a day, I've done almost 1000.
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And every single day it's introducing this to a new person and they're using it and the
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feedback and the rock out loud live forum, which is on Facebook, I'd encourage everybody
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to join the feedbacks been great, whether they're doing one on one lessons, or they're
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having a great experience for the first time with people who have poor internet.
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Because remember, we've developed this.
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So this poor internet, we're going to reduce the video quality, and we're going to maintain
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that audio quality.
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So people who've had horrible experiences with that, that's coming through people doing
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duets for the first time, albeit with a little bit of latency, are actually experiencing
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this at a woman Anna, who did a duet with me with incredible low latency experience,
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and she started to cry on the call.
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So you could just imagine what that was like.
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So man, if you haven't tried it, try the free version, you have nothing to lose.
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And heck, go for the seven day free trial on the paid version.
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If you keep, I'm sorry, 995, you got up to eight days to use it, we charge you on the
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eighth day.
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So you have seven days, do whatever you like, cancel it at any time, you won't get charged.
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But just to see what it's all about, I think it's worth a try.
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Not for us, it's for your students.
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And I just want to make a point.
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So to end this, we're not doing this for any anybody else but the student, we can't lose
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sight that rock out loud live was not for the teacher, not for the school, but it was
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for that child who wants to learn how to play Let It Go by Frozen.
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We want to do this for that child to put that smile on their face, especially now when all
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they have is music because school they closed down and they can't go out or they're still
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in lockdown in different parts of the world.
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But if we can give them music like they really had it, that's what this is all about.
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To me, it's not about the platform, it's really about the child.
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Noble goal.
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Yeah, for sure.
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So that concludes the third episode of our podcast.
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Thank you, Mike, for joining our program.
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Bye.